dnd-discussion

[cobalt owl]

Its not a class I particularly enjoy playing but it has itsm erits

[rough basalt]

Like nobodies gonna argue about everyone rolling insight on a sketchy npc

Or perception on a sketchy room

[reef tundra]

And that’s okay. If you don’t like playing it, that’s valid

[rough basalt]

Or survival on a set of huge monster tracks heading the way you're going

[cobalt owl]

Yup

[reef tundra]

Amazing pfp and username btw

[rough basalt]

But for Charisma classes, you don't have such flexibility

[cobalt owl]

Clonks

[humble cairn]

To be honest, I generally tend not to just allow the whole party to individually retry a Skill check. If everyone wants to do it, I use one of the variants of teamwork.

[reef tundra]

I actually play quite a few characters with charisma classes as quite uncharismatic. I still keep the stat high, but I just sometimes wanna play an unconfident sorcerer or warlock

[cobalt owl]

I generally dump cha and str

[rough basalt]

Personally I don't see why someone who thinks an npc is sketchy shouldn't be able to roll insight

[cobalt owl]

I feel weird dumping wis

[limber trail]

My dumps vary from PC to PC. I'm currently playing a druid with Dex and Str dumps, and a Monk with Cha and Int dumps.

[cobalt owl]

I'm more against the auto lie detector thing but getting a vibe is like fine.

[humble cairn]

Right, but if everyone tries something, I tend to make it a teamwork action.

[rough basalt]

Oh I misunderstood you.
I thought you were saying "alright these two are doing it, better luck next time"

[limber trail]

Insight doesn't need to be a lie detector. It kinda is up to how you wanna rule it tbh

[woven flint]

KNOME

imma get you

[limber trail]

you can certainly try

[cobalt owl]

Dumping dex is kinda crazy work

[woven flint]

Imma push Hokrun off a cliff

[rough basalt]

But Charisma checks are still a minefield of toestepping due to the nature of how social pillar is handled

[limber trail]

I'm playing an old guy, it makes sense

[cobalt owl]

But if you know what you're doing I won't stop you

Yeah there it is

[rough basalt]

Cause if the whole group is talking at the DM all at once they're probably gonna die

[woven flint]

I dumped Dex on my fighter :p

[cobalt owl]

Hows that going for you

[woven flint]

Pretty good

[humble cairn]

With a 27 Passive Perception I tend to just notice things without rolling, anyway.

[limber trail]

If I was concerned about competency I'd raise Dex but tbh it's a beginner campaign so I don't want anything too strong. Plus, I have the shield spell.

[cobalt owl]

Good for you at the current level ig

[rough basalt]

That's hilarious
Still Wis checks do allow for more people to roll the same check than cha ones.

[woven flint]

Its almost like dumping a stat isn't always the end of the world for a character 🧐

[cobalt owl]

That wasn't my implication

[reef tundra]

People need to stop me from making more dex-cha characters

[cobalt owl]

I just find it funny to see what stats people dump

[rough basalt]

We certainly see when it is the end of the world

[reef tundra]

One day I must make a strength fighter or paladin… but for now

[limber trail]

Strength is my most common dump usually

[reef tundra]

Same

[cobalt owl]

They just like me fr

[rough basalt]

I got a player whose common dump is either con or his casting stat

[cobalt owl]

Except I don't do cha, I do dex int/dex wis

[shy stirrup]

Live on the edge, make CON your dump stat

[cobalt owl]

I normally dump str and cha

[rough basalt]

I once saw a Wizard that dumped all physical stats

[reef tundra]

That’s why I give a lot of my homebrew creatures strength saves. It also just makes it fun to knock around back line characters who dumped str

[woven flint]

Lemme just dump all my stats

[rough basalt]

They had 8 strength, 8 dex and 8 con

Oh wait
No 10 dex

[reef tundra]

Dear god

[limber trail]

I read this and was like "oh hey yeah this seems fi- oh no"

[cobalt owl]

Unironically I think a lof of str saves aren't that bad, its more damage or forced movement or smth

[rough basalt]

They had a max of 9 hp at level 4

[reef tundra]

I would have loved snapping them in half

[cobalt owl]

8 con? Make a new character/

[rough basalt]

They survived 9 sessions

[limber trail]

impressive

[rough basalt]

Due to missing a couple, and the party building around protecting them

[cobalt owl]

I'm not holding back the dice for their sake cuz they wanted 8 con. That is very impressive tho

[scenic zinc]

At the end of the day it's a team game. A singular character isn't meant to be able to do everything.

[reef tundra]

Yeah, pretty much. That’s why I like taking some… creative liberties in my homebrew stat blocks

[rough basalt]

Tho they didn't take any defensive spells

[woven flint]

Exactly

[rough basalt]

No shield, no mage armor

[limber trail]

I've recently delved into the last stat I haven't really make a focus, which is wisdom, with both a new monk and druid. It's been a lot of fun!

[humble cairn]

Restrained can be pretty nasty and technically teleporting doesn't remove that condition for things like Entangle.

[cobalt owl]

I think my normal one was a 15 ft forced movement, doubled on a crit then str save to prone

Entangles weird

[woven flint]

I'm a Fighter, the parties main
"I tank it" Frontliner
We've got a Monk, Rogue and Cleric

I'm the best a strength saves but we have two dex save masters, as long as they survive I'm sure I'm not THAT screwed lol

[reef tundra]

I made a mountain dwelling creature with an attack that can knock creatures back 30 ft… you can imagine how that went

[cobalt owl]

You done a polearm master ability on a monster yet?

[reef tundra]

One day, one day, I will

[cobalt owl]

I did it with the knockback, they were very annoyed lol

[rough basalt]

I do wonder what my new player for Monday is gonna play

[limber trail]

evil.... I'm writing this down.

[reef tundra]

Oof 😭 💀

[humble cairn]

Most other Restrained effects are also Str Saves.

[shy stirrup]

Everyting a player can do, a monster can do as well 🙂

[rough basalt]

Cause yall need a 4th PC

[cobalt owl]

It was polearm master reaction attack
Stack a sentinel
Stack a str save topple
Stack a booming blade on a crit (unique ability)

[rough basalt]

The cleric ain't really a PC, they're more of just a target for enemies to hit

[woven flint]

We do 😔

[quiet forge]

Hi,

A few years ago i setup a character to play DnD with a friends, friend!
We never got to play though : (

I'm just wondering if anyone's able to help me play some DnD and learn more about the game? Been meaning to do this for a pretty long time now!

Thanks!

[cobalt owl]

I'm gonna head off but I'll give you one more bit of ammunition

Old Mage slayer them when they misty step. They'll rue your statblocks

[woven flint]

Let me tell ya, I cannot WAIT for extra attack to come online, I've been Fiending for it

[reef tundra]

Perfection… goodbye, Skeleton. Your name will be burned into my players’ memories forever

[cobalt owl]

Rattles

[scenic zinc]

I don't believe that's true.

Web for example says that you are only restrained until you break free. If you can break a grapple by no longer being within reach via teleportation, you can break many instances of restrained the same way.

I don't believe that the check described in the spell is the only way to break free - in fact, that check doesn't even use that phrase.

[rough basalt]

Hit level 5 then raid the wizard tower that's full of disintegration traps

[woven flint]

You what?!

Rest in peace Orizontas 😔

[rough basalt]

Reminds me I need to make maps for my more special POis

[limber trail]

You should instead play some kind of cool, orc monk type as your replacement. Call him.... Jokrun.

[rough basalt]

Like the Wizard Tower near where you're meeting the scammers

[snow agate]

i request silly but useful magic item ideas

[humble cairn]

Each spell is individual. If you read Entangle, it makes the target Restrained until the spell ends or until they successfully make the check to free themselves. It says nothing about moving out of range of the spell.

[woven flint]

That's okay, I'll just play Orizontas 2 if my fella dies
Except he's a Barbarian or maybe even a Paladin instead of a fighter 🧐

[rough basalt]

His brother from the same farm

[woven flint]

He does actually have a brother funnily enough 👀

[rough basalt]

Glorizontas

[scenic zinc]

I said many, not all. I'm aware that different instances of receiving a condition can end different ways. I was talking about Web in particular because that was one of the examples you gave.

[woven flint]

He also has a little sister

[rough basalt]

Wizarizontas

[humble cairn]

I realized that before you responded and deleted Web from my comment.

[woven flint]

Lmao

[rough basalt]

Reminds me, I fear for when you guys start running into Arcanians

[scenic zinc]

My phone had moved it off screen, so I didn't notice that. My bad.

[humble cairn]

And still my point is valid, teleporting doesn't automatically remove the Restrained condition from anything. It's a case by case basis.

[woven flint]

Boo-Womp

->

Ah, yes, our low magic party going to fight Wizards 😭 💀

[clear lark]

An 11th level casting spell against 5th level players? HMM

[snow agate]

use stealth

[scenic zinc]

I agree it's case by case - I was focused on Web in particular lol

[woven flint]

Well, scratch that, Orizontas is the only non-magical person as we've got a Shadow Monk, a Cleric and an Arcane Trickster Rogue

[limber trail]

It'll be fine. I'm sure.

[snow agate]

use stealth again

[woven flint]

Me when I dumped Dexterity

[rough basalt]

Heavy armor too

[woven flint]

Me when I also ride a horse into combat

[snow agate]

the weakness of a wizard is they're squishy and suck at very close and very long range and dont have great perception so if you jump them they fall apart

[scenic zinc]

Hopefully someone took the mage slayer feat

[snow agate]

make a distraction to help the rogue and monk stealth

[rough basalt]

Mounted combatant

Which honestly pretty good against Arcanian Mages

They're people so smaller than the mount, and Misty step is less distance than the honse

Gonna make some more encounter maps too

[woven flint]

I'm just the gigachad Cavalier 😎

[rough basalt]

Since Winter will be settling in that game before long.

[snow agate]

ok wait wait wait do you have charisma skills

[woven flint]

Nope, Wisdom Skills

[snow agate]

ok i have a proposal

[rough basalt]

None of the party is particularly good at talking lol

Orizontas is good at intimidating tho

[woven flint]

I'm the groups talker, but I dumped Charisma, but I never make any insane requests which is probably why Sora allows me to make request without insane Charisma rolls

[snow agate]

go up alone to the front door (or the proverbial front door) and provoke and ragebait the wizards while the party ganks them from the side

[rough basalt]

Way you do it usually is also very much valid for the strength replacement imo

[snow agate]

trust

[woven flint]

Hell yeah 😎

[scenic zinc]

Rolling the die is only necessary when chance has role to play ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rough basalt]

Yeah like if Orizontas went up to the Empress and said I wanna be Emperor that'd be a different story

[woven flint]

Honestly?
Parties without a Charisma character should be allowed to do Charisma things with other Stats, Intelligence, Wisdom and Strength are some that come to mind 🧐

[scenic zinc]

If the narrative says automatic success or failure based on the situation, there's no roll to be made.

[woven flint]

I can definitely see those working tbh

[snow agate]

i think parties without a charisma character should just approach socializing in a way that doesnt depend on "convincing" others

because then the checks arent necessary

[woven flint]

Well, yeah, of course

[rough basalt]

There'd be 3 outcomes.
1: She thinks he's joking and laughs
2: She thinks he's flirting and laughs
3: She says sure so she can go slack off.
None of these would involve checks.

[snow agate]

the simplest and most effective way to socialize without convincing, is to be correct or aura farm

[scenic zinc]

Perhaps situationally, but not always. Having a bad ability score mechanically should impact the narrative, otherwise there's no point in having that mechanic.

[rough basalt]

Tbh number 3 is the most likely

[snow agate]

this is for example, the wizard way of socializing

the hard but always effective way is to be helpful

any npc that isnt helpful to you when you're helpful from the outset, either has a good justification for it, or they never aimed to help their allies in the first place, so you're dodging a bullet by not depending on them

[shy stirrup]

Speaking of rolls. A brand-new player to the game asks you:
"What is the purpose of dice in this game?"
What do you tell them?

[snow agate]

to represent a chance of success or failure when it is uncertain

[shy stirrup]

Good answer

[warped jay]

I want to commission an artist. Is it rude to show an artist an Ai mock-up as to what I'm looking for?

[limber trail]

I definitely know a few artists who would find it rude.

I can't say everyone would but some for sure

[warped jay]

Yeah thats what I figured. I'll be careful when choosing but I'm looking to spend quite alot. Do I have any alternatives?

[limber trail]

What you might find to be helpful:

• Moodboards and concept images you find around the web, from games, shows, movies, and more
• Your own sketches and mockups (even if they're bad, they help)
• Written descriptions of what things look like & the intent behind them
• Just sitting down and talking the ideas through.

[unreal kiln]

Any one up for DND at some point need to find some people I don't really know any one who wants to play

[reef tundra]

#find-a-game

[warped jay]

#looking-for-players

[reef tundra]

Many people are always searching for a group

[limber trail]

Remember that a lot of commissioned artists have plenty of experience talking to clients and figuring out what they want, especially if you pick an artist with a style you like. They know the things they need, they can lead the conversation to get an idea of what you're looking for. Any artist worth their salt will do plenty of work to get something you like.

[unreal kiln]

Not even a group just some people to play with

[tawdry sentinel]

Makes a lot of sense.

Ignoring the "give discount for no reason other than I'm asking for it" style of persuasion rolls.

You'd like to think you can probably engage in negotiations with someone to do something that matters, you just end up with a shorter end of the stick than you would if Mr Eloquence bard and the "I can't actually roll below a 26" was present. Maybe god forbid you have to do a side quest for the NPC faction to like you.

[warped jay]

Good info. I've never paid for bespoke (bespoke?) art before but this is more or less how I imagined. I honestly don't even know the average skill level of artists to bring conversations I have with them to life.

If I ever get to reroll myself after I die I want to be able to draw or play an instrument.

[cursive drum]

Hey! New here but not new to D&D, just getting burned out because I feel like nobody around me has the same playstyle. For me roleplay and the game itself are distinct things, and I play entirely for the mechanical challenge. The story and world serve as context for the challenges, which are themselves the only part I consider the “game”

Does anyone else play like this? It’s lonely having such an unpopular viewpoint

[lean wigeon]

that's a fairly common perspective imo

[limber trail]

Plenty of those games exist out there - I've been a player in a couple campaigns like that.

[lean wigeon]

some people enjoy D&D for the "game" aspects of it

[limber trail]

Have a look around #looking-for-players if you like, it might help you find campaigns like that

[warped jay]

I've got at least 1 at my table that I know prefers that, he's been very understand with the story lovers though since he's also been a dm.

Real answer: Oh man goto one-shots at any convention and you'll find alot of people who play like this.

Personal opinion - Just got back from pax unplugged where it was only combat and I hated it. I enjoy combat! just not without chances for the social aspect

[red steppe]

I see your vision

[cursive drum]

It’s kinda backwards to me that anyone doesn’t

[cursive drum]

I want a campaign though, one shots are over too quick

[warped jay]

*sharpens pitch forks, dousing torches in brand name 'mob oil'

[red steppe]

I think youd love a Tier 4 campaign

[lean wigeon]

some people prefer using the system and its procedures as a vehicle for storytelling

[limber trail]

Different types of folks play the game for different reasons. My players I DM for love RP and story, as much as if not more than combat.

[lean wigeon]

rather than being the end in and of itself

[coarse ravine]

I have a friend who dropped out of art school because of the Ai takeover. Yes it is ruining music, acting and art for all artist. But especially ruining art

[cursive drum]

For me what draws me to games in general is the objectivity because I’m autistic and the real world doesn’t make sense to me, so when there are numbers that run the world I can finally understand it

[raw ocean]

"Hey fellas, you just found the body of this girl's poor husband who died in the dungeon trying to get money for a gift" Can we loot his body?

Some players just gonna play

[spring chasm]

I would do that

[cyan ingot]

Council, I require your assistance 🛐

Thoughts on a platform for online play in where the GM clicks everything and the players never click? Clicking as in using actions (spells, reactions, and such) I mean. And a single screen is streamed

Players would still choose and narrate

[raw ocean]

Good idea, until 5 of your players all want one thing at the same time

[limber trail]

Some folks enjoy it. Not me. I hate when I'm playing a game and the DM does any rolling, etc for me.

[raw ocean]

Unless its text by post

[red steppe]

Give half of it to the girl and call it his inheritance

[scenic zinc]

No thank you.

[fossil hollow]

pass on that

[raw ocean]

I currently have 2 new players and im essentially doing that already, it's suffering teaching them how to roll attack damage

[limber trail]

Even things as far as just telling me that an attack hits or misses without reading the total, or rolling death saves on my part, have been things that very much annoy me in campaigns. I'm a person who needs control.

[hot gate]

Would that be solving a particular problem you perceive?

[shy stirrup]

My question would be,
Why?

[fossil hollow]

also that increases your workload by a shit ton not sure why youd want to do that

[raw ocean]

Only way that's feasible is text by post

[red steppe]

Roleplayer heaven, purgatory for DMs

[raw ocean]

That's too light, 7th circle of the nine hells

[fossil hollow]

what even is the 7th layer of the hells

[raw ocean]

Violence

[fossil hollow]

i mean dnd hells

[raw ocean]

There's 9 layers in total I think

[limber trail]

Beurocratic and Decaying realm named Maladomini

[fossil hollow]

ah

[scenic zinc]

I disagree that this would be "roleplayer heaven". You would now need to explicitly communicate each mechanic you're utilizing out loud or in a written manner instead of given a narrative description.

[fossil hollow]

is that the one with titulus or something

[limber trail]

Baalzebul is its archdevil

[red steppe]

Abyss have infinite layers

[limber trail]

this is the hells, not the abyss

[red steppe]

Oh mb

[raw ocean]

I think the seventh circle is the circle of ruins

[scenic zinc]

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Maladomini

[cyan ingot]

but the game is turn based mechanichally, only the person in the turn gets to "direct" the screen, plus it'd be their choices anyway, for their charachter

[raw ocean]

You gotta go through avernus to access the secenth layer

[cyan ingot]

what is the difference between you clikcing the button and telling to the DM which button to click?

[scenic zinc]

#dnd-discussion message

[fossil hollow]

at least youre the one doing it

[scenic zinc]

That is onerous for everyone involved and detracts from the actual playing of the game.

[fossil hollow]

people having control over what they click is pretty big thing for most people

[limber trail]

So here's where we get into the psychology of play but to me it comes down to an additional layer of control between me the player and my character. If you click it, it's a little less in my hands, It's not my dice roll, it doesn't feel like it's in my hands.

[raw ocean]

Atp if you want the DM to do all the inputs, just set up an AI to do stuff for you

And, who want's to play with AI?

[cyan ingot]

for one, keeping players focused forcing players to focus on what their teammates do, instead of scrambling through the tooltips the whole time. It'd also require a more intuitive interface (but most designs don't really scale very well for high level spell casters anyway)

[fossil hollow]

i dunno. lack of interacting with dice would make me bored myself

even if its digital

[scenic zinc]

This would do the opposite of that.

[cyan ingot]

i was shooting for roleplayer heaven, but i think is not too much purgatory for DMs if the tool itself is good and readable

[limber trail]

I don't think this really solves the problem you want to solve. Things like turn timers and speeding up combat may improve your focus issues, as well as having more opportunities for players to make use of reactions etc.

This would actively make me pay less attention. You want your players to have more control, not less.

[raw ocean]

Im already imagining a fantasy world, I think I might go cyberpsycho if I imagine the game itself

[coarse ravine]

Yeah I mean level 6 windwalk can trivialize every exploration process at lightning speed

[fossil hollow]

theyre level 12 by then

[cyan ingot]

damn, he's right

[scenic zinc]

I think you're vastly underestimating how much more each player would need to spend time paying attention to their character sheet and then explicitly describing in detail the feature(s) they are using to the dm. This would be bad for everyone.

[crimson gulch]

Dopamine relese from your own action and effect

[raw ocean]

Yall gotta start sharing these spells more, I be hearing the most useful spells at the most random times

Is this how it feels to be a wizard and your bud shows you gate kept spells?

[fossil hollow]

also... windwalk doesnt save you from fliers or things with enough range

[crimson gulch]

Nah wind walk cab trivialize travel, exploration is something that takes time and care

[coarse ravine]

Windwalk makes the whole party into wind to go at like 300-600 feet per round. (Can't remember how fast lol)

[coarse ravine]

Wizard? Nooo

[scenic zinc]

Exploration is significantly more than just moving.

It's about attempting to find things.

[raw ocean]

I activate my trump card, magical secrets!

[coarse ravine]

Druid only spell

[fossil hollow]

and yeah, fast travel =/= exploration

[raw ocean]

Does magical secrets even let me steal druid spells?

[crimson gulch]

And one thing I'm starting to realize is so many folks thing roleplay is just dialog .

[cyan ingot]

how come, if they can only see one thing 🧑‍⚖️

[coarse ravine]

Yes

[fossil hollow]

youre just sitting there talking.

[scenic zinc]

#dnd-discussion message

[raw ocean]

Do yall have any more useful spells for certain scenarios?

[fossil hollow]

depends on the scenario

[raw ocean]

Support in combat?

[coarse ravine]

So many lol

[limber trail]

One approach you might instead find helpful is to give players more chances to influence the game outside of their turn. Have enemies move out of the fighter's range. Have enemies cast fireball within 60ft of the wizard. Hell, you could even expand it further. Tasha's has an optional rule buried deep in there I like the idea of, which is that once a day a player can give their ally advantage on any D20 test for free, no action economy required. Something like that encourages players to be on the lookout for important things they can help out with in combat, such as giving the rogue advantage for sneak attack.

Also, work with your players! Help make them cheat sheets for combat! Be a little more flexible with the rules and learn later!

[coarse ravine]

Druid grove if you have prep

[scenic zinc]

Yes, but they become bard spells for your character through this feature.

[knotty pasture]

Arcane Lock to trap a group of enemies in an enclosed room, bonus points if you drop some large aoe spell like hunger of hadar in it

[raw ocean]

Tasha's Otherworldly Guise is really useful for becoming immune to necrotic/radiant, or fire/acid damage

And it gives you another attack action

[raw ocean]

Oh I see

[coarse ravine]

Yes this or the 5th level spell summon draconic spirit

You get a dragon also resistance to very many damage types

You can only choose one resistance but alot of choices

[fossil hollow]

the humble absorb elements

[coarse ravine]

Can't absorb psychic damage lol

[limber trail]

Well yeah, it's absorb elements

[knotty pasture]

Silvery Barbs, Absorb Elements and Shield make up the backbone of any spellcaster's defenses

[raw ocean]

I think im immune to necrotic

[fossil hollow]

draconic spirit doesnt give ya psychic

[limber trail]

(Talk to DMs before taking silvery barbs)

[coarse ravine]

Also radiant and neurotic resistance. I like summon draconic spirit solely to get resistances lol

[raw ocean]

My DM despises silvery barbs

[fossil hollow]

or am i thinking of the 2024 one

oh right, 2014 summon dragon included gem

[knotty pasture]

Really anger your DM by taking silvery barbs (and promptly getting it banned after session 1)

[raw ocean]

We all know this one but force cage can clear so many combat's so quickly

[feral pecan]

hello-

[raw ocean]

If it can fit, it can die

[red steppe]

Clear is a spell?

[limber trail]

probably the most banned spell and also a spell you should really think carefully about, because the second a player takes silvery barbs every spellcaster enemy also gets silvery barbs.

[coarse ravine]

Mirage arcane is also a good one

[feral pecan]

trying to get into DND, any recommendations like classes or like baseline rules?

[coarse ravine]

For prep

[raw ocean]

What's your play style?

[coarse ravine]

Definitely go full druid like I did when I started

[fossil hollow]

check out #dnd-newcomers

[coarse ravine]

Most versatile class in the game and ya get to become animals!

[feral pecan]

thx, will check out

[raw ocean]

Anyone know a good spell for traversing the realm of fire with a party?

[red steppe]

Go Moon so you can be a dinosaur

[coarse ravine]

Well... is it lava?

[red steppe]

Wall of Force

[raw ocean]

alot of lava

[coarse ravine]

Does your dm consider lava water?

[fossil hollow]

why would it

[red steppe]

Hold on, do we take fire damage the longer we stay there

[limber trail]

Tenser's Floating Disk might help you cross that lava

[coarse ravine]

What would lava be considered?

[fossil hollow]

... lava

[limber trail]

lava is lava

[coarse ravine]

I'm tryna do some transmute rock type stuff

[fossil hollow]

thats like asking is oil water

[coarse ravine]

Lava is lava... alright

[crimson gulch]

They don't have water in the elemental plain of fire

[raw ocean]

The DM has allowed the idea of me turning into a giant creature immune to fire damage and, eating my party?

[fossil hollow]

liquid form =/= water

[crimson gulch]

Scorching steam they got by the bucket full though

[coarse ravine]

Well... isn't lava kinda like rock?

[lethal otter]

Hello

[raw ocean]

Lava is super heated rock

[fossil hollow]

its literally molten rock

[coarse ravine]

I mean molten rock. So transmute rock could work

[limber trail]

Do you have a plan in mind for achieving that? There's not a lot of spells which will do this, really.

[raw ocean]

Im a level 17 bard

[fossil hollow]

i think theres room for transmute rock with lava

[lethal otter]

whats yalls favorite "useless magic item" in d&d. Eather homebrew or normal dnd 5e

[limber trail]

welp, yeah you can achieve that

[fossil hollow]

cloak of billowing

[coarse ravine]

Shield of expression

[raw ocean]

A magical item I made, It's a top hat that's 3 feet high and when you place an item inside of it and secure it, a holographic version spins slowly at the top of the hat

[red steppe]

If you were an Earth elemental, would it help you swim through lava?

[fossil hollow]

:(

[coarse ravine]

It would burn you

[lethal otter]

Never heard of it

[red steppe]

Wait, just true polymorph into an adult red dragon

[fossil hollow]

earth elementals arent immune to fire

[raw ocean]

Can I just fly over the lava?

[red steppe]

Aw man

[limber trail]

Earth Elementals unfortunately are not immune to fire damage, but a Fire elemental would be.

[fossil hollow]

if you can already turn to elementals... why not just fire

[coarse ravine]

Only thing that can burn a fire elemental is a blood hunter

[red steppe]

Ik but i was assuming they wouldnt stay there for too long

[limber trail]

at level 17 you have boundless options available to you. Hell, teleport would do it for cheaper.

[raw ocean]

Till teleport misfires and I end up in a tiamat's bath tub

[red steppe]

Yes

[knotty pasture]

Dimension Door perhaps?

[raw ocean]

Oh true

Is the realm of water like, fully water?

[red steppe]

Peak

[raw ocean]

Maybe water breathing + wind walk?

[coarse ravine]

And monsters

[limber trail]

If you can see your destination you've only got a 5% chance of a mishap

[fossil hollow]

water breathing doesnt work in lava

[red steppe]

Also burns you as long as you exist there

Did everyone in that party bring potions of fire resistance

[feral pecan]

ho god I have no idea where to start

[limber trail]

Wind Walk would just straight up work though.

[raw ocean]

What if I just, drink the lava till it's gone?

[coarse ravine]

As a dm i would not burn a fire genasi

[red steppe]

That makes sense

[raw ocean]

I can put a portal at the bottom of a lava pool and let it drain

[coarse ravine]

Transmute rock

[fossil hollow]

if you have fire resistance, you automatically succeed on the save against staying near lava

[red steppe]

Drain an infinite plane of fire and lava?

[raw ocean]

Yall think I can bring my pet iron golem with me?

[fossil hollow]

dont those heal from fire

[raw ocean]

You think im a good golem owner?

[fossil hollow]

it would thrive there

[raw ocean]

Oh, guess it will

[scenic zinc]

D&D isn't a physics engine

[coarse ravine]

Maybe just maybe you can create a wall of stone. Have the iron golem hold up the retainer wall. While yall cross

[limber trail]

I feel like you're overcomplicating a very solvable problem. Wind Walk does just instantly solve this.

[fossil hollow]

yeah, iron golems are both immune to fire and have fire absorbtion

[raw ocean]

I like that idea

[coarse ravine]

Or wall of stone to simply make a bridge.

[raw ocean]

Gonna have to cough up 200K gold soon though

[limber trail]

you also get 8 hours travel with a 300ft base fly speed for 10 creatures.

[cursive drum]

Roleplay is just dialog

[coarse ravine]

Dashing 600

[limber trail]

for a 6th level slot, with no major material components

[scenic zinc]

It most certainly isn't.

[raw ocean]

Does this speed effect stack with others?

[cursive drum]

What else is roleplay?

[lean wigeon]

playing a role

[crimson gulch]

No, rolepay is being immersed in your charicter as you talk fight explore rest, everything

[cursive drum]

Yeah so if you’re using a mechanic it’s not roleplay

[scenic zinc]

Nope, also not true.

[cursive drum]

That’s how I’ve always understood it

[shy stirrup]

You can roleplay without your character saying a word

[limber trail]

Roleplay 100% extends to the mechanics.

[fossil hollow]

playing a role and pretending to be someone else

[lean wigeon]

you don't even need immersion for that imo. even the simple act of declaring "my character does X" is roleplaying

[red steppe]

Can that stack with other movement buffs?

[lean wigeon]

you are never not roleplaying in a roleplaying game

[raw ocean]

Mechanically a member in our party is like, messed up so he dosen't speak very well in roleplay

[fossil hollow]

Role-playing or roleplaying is the changing of one's behaviour to assume a role, either unconsciously to fill a social role, or consciously to act out an adopted role.

[crimson gulch]

Yeah and that's a super common way of thinking I'm findinf

[cursive drum]

I see ttrpg characters more as game pieces

[raw ocean]

Wait, using wind walk can I become wally west?

[crimson gulch]

So many games that are listed as roleplay heavy need to be listed as dialog heavy instead

[limber trail]

Sure if Wally west was a cloud

[scenic zinc]

Roleplaying is a part of every pillar of the game. It's not a singular pillar. It's the entire thing.

[limber trail]

Roleplay is the RP in TTRPG, which is what we’re all playing

It’s a good 40% of it at least

[cursive drum]

Then why do people say the pillars are role play, exploration, and combat?

[shy stirrup]

Can you roleplay a character who cannot or will not speak?
Yes, yes you can

[cursive drum]

I’m kinda good with it being like 10%

[raw ocean]

Boots of speed double your speed and if your dashing constantly you can hit 200 feet per second

[fossil hollow]

the correct name for the pillar is social

[red steppe]

Cast Haste on urself then Wind Walk

[scenic zinc]

The pillars are combat, social, and exploration. Roleplay is done during all 3. Social does not equate to "roleplay without mechanics"

[fossil hollow]

its not roleplay. its Social, Combat, and Exploration

[red steppe]

Do note that if you take your magic action to turn normal, you are incapacitated for 1 minute

[raw ocean]

Fellas, we need to hit 1,200 feet per second to move at the speed of sound

[crimson gulch]

I refuse to allow player charicters that can't speak personally

[raw ocean]

Mach 1

[crimson gulch]

We're not gonna jump through hoops for every interaction and conversation

[shy stirrup]

I'm with you, but approval or disapproval doesn't change the fact that dialogue is not strictly necessary for roleplaying

[scenic zinc]

What if I want to use common sign language as my language, and narratively describe what I'm communicating instead of saying "I say blah blah"

[fossil hollow]

my 4 silent characters have all had alternativ ways to talk

[crimson gulch]

Agreed, that was an aside

[fossil hollow]

telepathy for three of them, CSL and familiar for the last

[scenic zinc]

And take observant feat in order to read lips

[limber trail]

This works very briefly before haste and your boots of speed wear off. Plus, it varies from DM to DM but I would personally rule that when wind walk is cast, at least something like your boots of speed lose their effect

[fossil hollow]

i dont think you need to read lips if you can hear em

dont think deaf characters can work too well

[scenic zinc]

Most individuals that use sign language have difficulty hearing, which impacts their ability to create intelligible speech (unfortunately that's the term for it).

[raw ocean]

It says in gaseous form that all the gear becomes mist with you, so if I activate boots of speed before becoming gaseous the effect would stay for 9 minutes

[fossil hollow]

ah. my CSL char doesnt want to talk because her voice is corrupted by abyssal and undead energy. (my dhamphir echo knight/undead warlock)

[crimson gulch]

Yeah, roleplay of that level of type of disability has never gone well in my games. The game is a conversation and putting barriers in place to that is a poor experience

[raw ocean]

So RAW, the boots would work

[scenic zinc]

If the character I'm wanting to play is very hard of hearing or entirely deaf works mechanically to communicate via sign language and reading lips through the observant feat, I don't see the issue in communication.

[coarse ravine]

Either of these options is better then roll playing

[fossil hollow]

what?

[scenic zinc]

Just make sign language a more commonly known thing in your game then if a player wants to do the thing I'm describing. It's not a huge lift, it's a language option in the phb now.

[coarse ravine]

I think a rogue with 2 levels fighter or maybe a monk can do this

Dash wind walk is 600. Action dash 900. Bonus action 1200

[crimson gulch]

Nope, not being able to call for help or hear things coming, that is going to be too quick of a death

[limber trail]

While in wind walk you can’t take any action other than dash or turn back into your normal form

[fossil hollow]

i remember when the ranger almost got silenced after she approached the butler on her own

[coarse ravine]

Oh so no bonus actions

[fossil hollow]

almost died if she didnt cry out

[scenic zinc]

Not sure if they meant this, but there's the uncommonly used term "roll playing" where you act solely based on how the roll results of the die

[coarse ravine]

So max speed with action surge is prolly 900

[fossil hollow]

like, you roll for yourself to see if your character would do something?

[vast pelican]

You only need 190 feet of movement to travel at the speed of sound.

[scenic zinc]

That shouldn't mechanically have an impact on noticing most things due to the observant feat.

Sure, calling out might be impacted, I can see that.

[coarse ravine]

I meant any type of roleplaying is better then just rolling the dice and being very bland. No personalization on your character just there to roll dice and face dms outcome.

[limber trail]

Probably not a great use of action surge, to be fair

[fossil hollow]

i always ensure to add flavor and descriptions to my rolls, or players to engage them, so never had this issue

[scenic zinc]

That's one way of doing it. Or always rolling to determine the result of every single thing instead of making situational decisions on when rolling is appropriate.

[raw ocean]

You need to be going 1200 feet per second to be going Mach 1

[crimson gulch]

If your deaf you automatically fail any perception check regarding hearing

[vast pelican]

Oh wait, I had the factor inverted. Yeah, you need 6750 movement.

I thought there was something wrong there.

[scenic zinc]

Not every person who uses sign language is completely deaf. I did specify hard of hearing.

[coarse ravine]

Had a super introvert at the table that was super shy or had autism idk. We welcomed him for sure but he had trouble opening up and just stuck to the rolls.

I felt like he had alot to offer but we never got to see it

[lean wigeon]

imo that still constitutes as roleplaying, even if it is quite bland
you are still actively choosing and deciding what your character will do. that is roleplaying

[raw ocean]

So you need 12 dashes in one round to be going that speed

[fossil hollow]

ah, yeah, thats a different scenario. best to be patient for that one

[raw ocean]

So 12 dashes + boots of speed + wind walk

Only problem is, how do you get 12 dashes?

[fossil hollow]

or just have insane speed at the start

[scenic zinc]

I apologize if I'm being a bit over the top about this specific scenario. It's because I am more than half deaf and will likely lose all hearing before I'm 50 if I'm not careful.

[coarse ravine]

Centaur + monk+ mobile?

[fossil hollow]

im fairly sure theres already a tabaxi monk build that breaks the sound barrier

tabaxi is better for the no action double speed

[limber trail]

My instinct is: Tabaxi Psi Warrior Fighter Monk Barbarian with Speedy, boots of speed, haste, and that one spell for an extra 10ft of movement.

[raw ocean]

Pretty sure when you wind walk you have your movement speed replaced by the 300 feet of movement

[fossil hollow]

longstrider

[limber trail]

That’s the one

[raw ocean]

Can that build move 6750 feet in one round?

[upper lily]

Shout-out to my favorite Wildshape QUETZALCOATLUS!

[limber trail]

I’ll do the maths. Don’t think so but it’ll break 1000 I reckon

[raw ocean]

I think wind walk + pre-activated boots of speed hit 1200 in one round

[coarse ravine]

Sais "While in this cloud form, a creature has a flying speed of 300 feet and has resistance to damage from nonmagical weapons"

[scenic zinc]

-# I've never understood speed builds

Can the speed optimization conversation be moved to #optimization please

[coarse ravine]

Idk if mobile would help this or not.....

[raw ocean]

And if you dash that's 600, then boots of speed double that

Only improvment you can make on that is buffs or pre-activated items that give more dash actions

[vast pelican]

You can certainly get to be super fast, just nowhere near the speed of sound. The only way to do that is to simply handwave it and write in a nonsense speed.

[raw ocean]

Speed of sound is 6750 feet per round

So with the wind/boot combo we make up 17.8% of that speed

[scenic zinc]

There's channels dedicated to specific different conversational topics for a reason

[raw ocean]

Most of those channels don't show up automatically for people

Just wanna put that out there, for your information

[scenic zinc]

That's on each individual person for not looking at the channels and roles tab

[umbral girder]

There even is a channel that tells you all of them at the top

[idle oar]

#channel-guide is there - please use the most appropriate channel for a specific topic

[remote wadi]

Quick question

[fossil hollow]

that was quick

[remote wadi]

What is more important in a 2014 Gloomstalker Ranger: Strength or Charisma?

[valid geyser]

quick answer

[fossil hollow]

Neither

[valid geyser]

neither really

[remote wadi]

Which should I make my dump stat is a better question

[fossil hollow]

you pick

[valid geyser]

if youre not a strength melee you'll probably rarely need strength in any other form, but strength saves are a good bit more common than charisma saves

[remote wadi]

Thanks

[glacial pulsar]

charisma saves are more detrimental than strength saves typically

[crimson gulch]

Strength for sure, get you a belt of giant strength and slay in melee

[lyric burrow]

Hey does anyone know where I can get D&D 5e books on pdf

[meager fractal]

nah

[lyric burrow]

I be dm I need the book

I will being a dm need a dm book

[meager fractal]

they aren't available for pdf. DNDBeyond is the best place to buy the m (or physical at a lgs)

[atomic kayak]

there are no legal pdfs of 5e books

[lyric ivy]

Do you guys wanna give an opinion on my first campaign synopsis?

[fossil hollow]

#dm-discussion

[remote wadi]

We have a person to help with charisma

Also, varying encumbrance will be a thing

[glacial pulsar]

Sounds like you knew the answer already, Strength it is then

[valid geyser]

my job application personal evaluation asked me if i follow rules by the letter or by my belief of the intent. I knew RAW/RAI discussions would get me somewhere in the world

[crimson gulch]

In the workplace, 100 as written. I have had so many bosses that I needed a paper trail for or things got super difficult

[fickle heart]

Absolutely depends on the job

[lament horizon]

Hi

[still plover]

Free Rules will get you started: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/the-basics

[dense nacelle]

Just saved my LGS some trouble, they had a copy of Eberron forge of the artificer in the shelf for sale despite the fact that it’s not out yet

[fossil hollow]

LGSs get the books early

[marble lion]

In this case it seems to have been a slipup anyway

[fossil hollow]

they got it same time as the early access for Master Tier, my LGS got their copies

[marble lion]

Wouldnt the lgs just tell him its actually meant to be in the shelf then?

[fossil hollow]

why would they?

[marble lion]

"Hey just a headsup i saw you put this book up while its not out yet"
"Oh thanks mate but its actually in early release at lgs since xyoclock"

Basic conversation level

[fossil hollow]

dont think Ornstein said anything about asking them about it...

[marble lion]

Hold up

What else would he mean by saving them trouble?

[fossil hollow]

just buying it?

Im just clarifying that there should be no problem for an LGS to have the books already... since theyve had it since the 11th

[marble lion]

But then he would be contributing to trouble

In his own mind of it being illegal to trade

I wish he responded i need answers

[dense nacelle]

I brought it to them, they said that it wasn’t even in their systems, and that it wasn’t supposed to be out

[fossil hollow]

wait what

[dense nacelle]

One of their employees had messed up, and the books were out before they were supposed to, I helped them take them back

[fossil hollow]

huh

[clear lark]

Okay I have to ask, what does "LGS" mean?

[rough basalt]

Local game store

[fossil hollow]

Local Game Store

[clear lark]

Thank you. I try not ask, and wait to see if I can figure it out first

[marble lion]

See it sounded like he was sure he helped which implied the staff confirmed that

Weird though when combining it with you saying its out moth

[rough basalt]

It is out for the usual LGS

Guess this one isn't part of that deal or just doesn't participate

[crimson gulch]

Thats a mistake that happens in every shop ever from time to time, something they weren't ready to sell hitting the shelf

[burnt valley]

can an air juggling mechanic work in dnd?

[glass granite]

In what way?

[past blaze]

like in fighting games or hack and slashes, but as a turn based game? Not exactly

Especially given the rounds are like... 6 seconds in world time, and a 3 round combat is 18 seconds

[burnt valley]

You launch an enemy up in the air, you can attack it from the ground to keep it airborne for example

[burnt valley]

Aww man

[glass granite]

Falling is instantaneous, so prolly not

[burnt valley]

Wish there was a way to make martials as cool and stylish as casters

[past blaze]

if it were a different game with much 'smaller' turns, where each turn's individual impact was smaller, then it'd be more doable

[near silo]

If you hit someone with a paladin would they take holy damage

[idle oar]

They take damage. There is no "holy" damage type.

There is radiant damage

[near silo]

Yeah that

[glass granite]

The nature of the attack depends on the damage the enemy takes

If it was a spear, it’d be piercing. If it was a divine smite, it’d would also be radiant.

[idle oar]

But no, paladins damaging something does not mean radiant damage is dealt unless the attack specifies that or if the paladin uses one of their spells to use one of their smites.

The attack/weapon determines the damage type generally.

[near silo]

No I mean like if I throw the holy man does he do radiant damage on impact

[idle oar]

No

[glass granite]

No…
Though that would be funny

But no

[warped jay]

So, is there a reason why the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide has 120 pages, 1/3 of the book, just referencing treasure?

[lean wigeon]

i dont know how much this will add to the game, or how this would be different from just attacking and narrating your attack as such

[idle oar]

Because DMs often need to figure out how to reward the player characters? But beyond that, we're not the game designers so can't really provide any more information beyond that.

[dapper cloud]

Because loot is awesome.

[chrome pumice]

Hello guys, having a trouble with the NICK + VEX priority / compatibility argument with a fellow player.

Let's say there is rogue who has a Shortsword MH (VEX) and a Scimitar OH (nick)

When the rogue makes the Attack aaction with the shortword, does the attack of the NICK happen at the same time? or after the Shortsword attack.

Meaning does the NICK weapon gets/use up the VEX advantage modifier of Shortsword?

[clear lark]

https://discord.com/channels/516367331358801950/538458011149271050

[limber trail]

You make the attack, you apply vex, you make the second attack with nick, and that uses the vex.

Attacks don’t take place at the same time - they happen sequentially, in the order you as the player do them

[stray atlas]

so random question again

is it possible for a powerful enough sorcerer to have a kid that is also a sorcerer?

[inner silo]

It's possible for anyone to have a kid that's a sorcerer tbh

[stray atlas]

they have to have a magical creature in the bloodline I thought?

[inner silo]

Wizard blood counts

[fair summit]

I mean there aren't any specific rules for it. Sorcerer simply implies you have strong magic in you naturally. Maybe you're the child of a powerful magic user, magical creature, or even just someone who was infused by magic from an artifact or something

[inner silo]

Sorcerer blood definitely does too

[stray atlas]

but this is specifically what I am asking

[fair summit]

That counts as "anyone", so yeah that would work too 👍

[limber trail]

"Sorcerers wield innate magic that is stamped into their being. Some Sorcerers can’t name the origin of their power, while others trace it to strange events in their personal or family history. The blessing of a dragon or a dryad at a baby’s birth or the strike of lightning from a clear sky might spark a Sorcerer’s gift. So too might the gift of a deity, exposure to the strange magic of another plane of existence, or a glimpse into the inner workings of reality. Whatever the origin, the result is an indelible mark on the Sorcerer, a churning magic that can be passed down through generations."

[inner silo]

Walked in on an artificer doing a dangerous experiment

[stray atlas]

it's for a friend's character, they want their new one to be the grandson of their old character

ok thanks y'all

[inner silo]

Np

[rough basalt]

An example would be
I had a Storm Sorc that was born on a ship caught in a hurricane.

And that's why he's a storm sorc

[fossil shuttle]

My party (me and 2 other members, along with our dm of the normal group) just started a side campaign (sorta like a B-plot to the normal one) for when we don't have everyone and need something to do. Through a random turn of events, our goats died, and we now have a pet Otyugh to pull the carriage. Any ways to stop it from smelling bad, like an item that would give the effect of a constant prestidigitation or something?

[inner silo]

Btw I've finally gotten my friends to agree to play dnd if i dm

Now i just need to memorize lost mines of phandelver, learn to make session notes and how to run a session 0, help my friends make their characters and I'm pretty set i think

[woven flint]

Folks, if you're not doing Doom Eternal-esque Glory kills when you're playing a Barbarian are you truly playing a Barbarian? 🧐

[inner silo]

Wdym?

[woven flint]

Over the top kills

[past blaze]

Not exactly. One can become a sorcerer through circumstances of birth, circumstances of bloodline, or from happenstance, as Knome posted.
It's not just a magical creature, it's some magical occurence that leaves an "indelible mark on the Sorcerer"

[inner silo]

Wdym over the top kills? Like doing 12 damage to a 1 hp goblin?

[past blaze]

They mean brutal executions, like ripping them in half, or breaking off an arm and stabbing them with the arm

[woven flint]

No, I mean like, Mortal Kombat-Esque kills when your dm asks you how you wanna kill the enemy

[past blaze]

The funniest one is punching the zombie's head into their torso

[crimson gulch]

because there is A lot of magical items

[woven flint]

None of my characters are typically brutal with their kills, but I'm gonna be playing a Barbarian soon, so I might as well lol

[inner silo]

Oh, didn't know about that stuff

[limber trail]

You should have Artanza absolutely decimate a guy

[crimson gulch]

i love doing this, my players go hard on this

[woven flint]

Artanza is kind ENOUGH to not make someone suffer

[limber trail]

Shame

[woven flint]

He's still a Cleric

A knowledge Cleric at that, his day job was being a librarian..
Though he doesn't care what other people do, he's gonna uphold his own morals lol

[inner silo]

Is it a good feature to implement for a new player party?

[sullen juniper]

Mine just do the classic, if you do a lot of damage above the required to kill damage the damage is brutal type

You know the classic freeze turns into a popsicle, acid melts and fire burns

[bronze wave]

It’s fun

[crimson gulch]

i would say so yes

[fossil hollow]

its basically giving your players a chance to describe how they kill a creature

[inner silo]

Alrighty, I'll suggest it then. Thanks!

[fossil hollow]

thats all it is

[limber trail]

It gives newer players a low stakes, quick and easy chance to do a lil bit of in character RP, it's tons of fun.

[past blaze]

yeah it's not even mechanical it's just a description

[winter thorn]

Do to a magic shield. I can pass through targets and deal 2d10 damage when I dash. I also triggered an increase of 5 damage during the dash as a bonus action. I just killed six enemies in a single turn with it.

[woven flint]

Jiddurn is gonna be like
Knocks the Bandits leg out from beneath him with the broad side of his axe, grabs them by the head with his free hand as he imagines cheering from an invisible crowd as he lobs the Bandits head off with his axe, holding their head to grin at them before their brain completely stops working

He's gonna do those types of kills, so expect it, ti 👀

[sullen juniper]

Anyways, anyone got a nice orc name? Want to play one soon

[fossil hollow]

Hokrun

[woven flint]

Oi, don't give away one of your players Orc names

[fossil hollow]

Identity theft is a great joke

[inner silo]

Sounds like something a lot of people could be uncomfortable with, idk though

[woven flint]

Jiddurn Moonscorn is the better name anyway (though he's a Centaur)

[crimson gulch]

the moment when the party is all near death and the Villian takes a big hit, and everyone looks at me expextantly as i declare "and he is NEAR DEATH" is a huge rise and drop

and then on the next hit the expectation rises once more and i say " How do you want to do it?:" and the whole table cheers, is epic

[limber trail]

HEY

[woven flint]

Definitely ask tables before going too over the top for certain

[inner silo]

Alrighty

[limber trail]

You're taking everything hokrun has... his name.... his identity as a homeless person....

[fossil hollow]

Husbando, we are homuress

[woven flint]

He's not homeless anymore

[crimson gulch]

ocassionaly some of those hits at near death get them Near-ER to death but dont finish the job because i do carefully track hp

[winter thorn]

Do to a magic shield. I can pass through targets and deal 2d10 damage when I dash. I also triggered an increase of 5 damage during the dash as a bonus action. I just killed six enemies in a single turn with it.

[fossil hollow]

i still remember that time you threw a mythic monster at us...

[limber trail]

I know :(

[fossil hollow]

cant wait til you guys hit level 5 and get actual Bastions

[woven flint]

Bastion?!
Like overwatch?!
AAAAUUUGHHH /joking

[red steppe]

How strong was it?

[fossil hollow]

Nerf-bastion

[limber trail]

you're right...... so, winston?

[fossil hollow]

it was strong, i think almost downed some of us

[red steppe]

Damn

It wasnt altered in any way right? As in homebrew some stuff

[fossil hollow]

i wanna be winston

[fossil hollow]

it was a homebrew monster. Theres no mythic giant-demon in the official rules

[red steppe]

Ah

[fossil hollow]

yeah, it was one of uhhhh... Grazzt(?)'s kids

freaky demon man. Glad we slaughtered him

[red steppe]

Whats his CR

[fossil hollow]

whose?

I know Grazzt is CR 23-24. I have no adiea about the daughter

[red steppe]

The mythic monster you fought

Oh alrighty

[fossil hollow]

the DM for that game doesnt usually show their homebrew statblocks. Theyre usually pretty barebones

[red steppe]

Ah fair enough

[crimson gulch]

that was basicly the storm giant stat block with extra spice

[red steppe]

Is this like a Tier 4 campaign?

[crimson gulch]

it ended at level 13

[red steppe]

Oh

[fossil hollow]

oh huh, that checks out

now to look for the dracotaur that ended Acheron

[inner silo]

Would letting a player with the healer kit use battle medic as a bonus action be too op?

[fossil hollow]

not really?

[fiery nimbus]

not really, its basically giving them cure wounds without upcasting

let them use it, in case it turns out to OP pull them to the side and figure something out together

[inner silo]

Alrighty, thanks!

[fiery nimbus]

... I am spending too much time around here

Since when do I recommend talking to people, you are all bad influence

[red steppe]

Healer kit strong? Since when?

[spice cliff]

How many times can you use a perfume before expending it?

[inner silo]

5 iirc

[spice cliff]

That seems awfully low

[fiery nimbus]

not about strength really, Cracker is basically asking
"Is giving someone potentially unlimited healing too strong"

And yea, it can be

Healers Kit has 10 uses and Battle Medic feature lets someone regain 1 Hit Dice worth of HP per use

But even granting all that, i don't think it will be a problem

[fossil hollow]

keep talking to us, yesss

[red steppe]

Oh oki

[inner silo]

I checked the item and it doesn't say, just that it's a 4-ounce bottle, so probably however many your dm thinks is appropriate

[fiery nimbus]

Just don't use it soo much that your character smells like a teen after the Gym at school

[limber trail]

It's not really specified. Me personally, as a DM, I kinda just let my players always have access to it.

[inner silo]

Btw on that note. To make the crafter feat useful, is asking the player with it what they want to make beforehand and then adding an encounter around it the best idea to make it useful?

[red steppe]

Axe body spray

[limber trail]

I would introduce challenges associated with making the things they wanna make but to be honest I wouldn't sweat too much about making the things they craft useful. That's a case where it's up to the player to try find solutions to problems with the things they take. Just my two and a half cents.

[fiery nimbus]

Crafter Feat does have quick crafting component too it
you could as the encounters roll through, make those simple common items use up.

Rope snaps, pouches have a hole, you need a grappling hook for something

Afraid it's more up to the player to use it well since it requires the player to be quite creative with their mundane items

But yes, if i had a crafter in my game, i would break their items more often while letting the crafter guy deal with it

[still plover]

This is the "after a long rest, breaks at the next one" feat? Feels like that's putting something together during your rest time. I personally don't see how it works, you bed down and the next day you've got a ladder built (out of what?) but I don't see it needing an encounter to use.

[inner silo]

Alrighty, so just not worry about it too much and only sometimes add encounters where the items will definitely be useful?

[still plover]

Oh, an encounter to make use of the result! I get you now.

[red steppe]

Spam craft acid vials

[fiery nimbus]

It's the
Gain 3 tool proficiencies and gain access to quick crafting menu associated with those

https://www.dndbeyond.com/search?q=Crafter

[inner silo]

Ah i see

[fiery nimbus]

@inner silo no matter what you do, if your players dislike using Mundane items to solve the problems, feat will be completely useless

[limber trail]

I wouldn't worry about ever adding encounters where you've planned that they'll be useful honestly, partially because it can lead to a design space where the things other players do are somewhat diminished or even irrelevant because they don't have the important item needed, or if that player doesn't think to use that item and they now aren't using the to ols to solve the problem.

Most crafted items in and of themselves have uses

[inner silo]

Alrighty!

[glass granite]

I’d incorporate it as a bonus, possible use case if applicable, but I wouldn’t shape the entire encounter around it.

[still plover]

Kinda feel the onus is on the player to make a useful choice there, but maybe if the upcoming situation has obvious opportunities you could drop a hint.

"Going up a mountain, maybe rope would be handy?" That kind of thing.

[inner silo]

So just make sure these items can sometimes be used?

[glass granite]

Yeah sure

[inner silo]

Oki. Thanks for the help!

[inner silo]

Alrighty!

[fiery nimbus]

mundane items are always somewhat useful, again it's up to the player to actually use it
Most items from this feat are not consumables though, so either let their item break as a flavour

(for example describe that someone's tent got pierced during the fight)

[fossil shuttle]

Are there any ways to make something smell not bad? I know there's prestidigitation, but my party needs something more permanent. We have an artificier, but we're unsure if he can do anything.

[fiery nimbus]

no mechanical punishment, just encouragement to deal with this completely mundane situation in a completely mundane in party way

[still plover]

Seriously though, how is that feat meant to work in the narrative? Tools are one thing, supplies are another. You know what goes into making rope?

[waxen scaffold]

10 Fireballs/Hypnotic Patterns/Lightning Bolts to the Artificer, one level 1 spell with concentration for the Ranger

[fiery nimbus]

Sure i do
and Crafter character would know too.

Thankfully mid long rest they went to scavange some materials and would you look at that, they found exactly what they needed to weave a rope

[still plover]

Alchemist tools proficiency can get you some medieval Fabreeze.

[glass granite]

Seal it in a bag of holding perhaps?

[fossil shuttle]

It's an Otyugh

[fiery nimbus]

I do wonder, would distort value work?

[fiery nimbus]

...
...
...
Start with a bath for your new pup and go from there

[tropic eagle]

Hiii

[fiery nimbus]

It's a Garbage eating monster

i bet it won't smell bad if you actually feed them actuall non garbage stuff, but again its DM's call

something like Prestidigitation specifically states you can make something smell nicer without DM's intervention

[fossil shuttle]

The problem is that they prefer eating trash

[fiery nimbus]

@fossil shuttle try
https://www.dndbeyond.com/equipment/396-perfume

And i mean feed perfume to them

As far as im aware Perfume is pretty much what you are looking for

[fossil shuttle]

... That might actually work. We don't really have the means to get perfume right now, though. It also ain't exactly small

[waxen scaffold]

Honestly, which are the chances for a Revised 2024 Ranger?

[glass granite]

Slim

[fiery nimbus]

Solve the problem one step at the time, you can always split the party, send someone to town with gold and make them buy all you need to make your Slimy Tentacle Pup smell majestic

[waxen scaffold]

A shame

[fossil shuttle]

We started today (we are level 8), and we are in the middle of the woods. The bard was voting to kill it because it smells.

[fiery nimbus]

Did you had the vote to feed the bard to it and see how it goes from there?

[fossil shuttle]

She'd probably shank me in my sleep, she's also a rogue

[violet basin]

an otyugh?

[fossil shuttle]

I figure I'm gonna be taking care of it most of the time. I'm the one with a decent animal handling and the one who decided it was a good idea to feed it

[fossil shuttle]

Big walking garbage disposal

[violet basin]

an otyugh

[fiery nimbus]

It's not exactly an animal and the entry in the monster manual says very clearly
"It's easy to miscalculate the amount of food it needs, turning you from its master into it's next meal"

[fossil shuttle]

I think we're treating it more like an animal. Feeding it also shouldn't be a big problem; we have a lot of food on us, especially as a party of only 4

[fiery nimbus]

Your funeral

Party of 4 starts off with 40 portions worth of rations, how many will Otyugh eat?

[fossil hollow]

otyughs are essentially animals

[fossil shuttle]

We also found a crate with enough sandwiches to feed 12 people for several days, along with a chillstone to keep them fresh

[fossil hollow]

Just same smartness as an ape or dolphin

[fiery nimbus]

I was more so refering to it's dietary needs

[fossil hollow]

oh they need a shit ton of trash

... no pun intended.

[fiery nimbus]

Hence the issue

[hollow python]

#looking-for-players

[fossil shuttle]

They can eat just about anything, it's just that they prefer trash. We can also let some stuff spoil for it

[violet basin]

Otyugh
int: 6
so as smart as a kobold on my current adventuring team
wis 13
so, a little wiser too.
cha 6
so about me in real life....

Limited telepathy

[fiery nimbus]

Don't think we need an entry from the Monster Manual beyond the brief description

[fossil hollow]

A breakdown from The Monsters Know:

They have a well-developed survival instinct, including the ability to discriminate between easy and difficult prey, but despite their ability to communicate verbally in their own language, their Intelligence is animal at best—about what you’d expect of a sign language–using gorilla. Theoretically, it may be possible to bargain with an otyugh, by appealing to its one and only interest: food.

[fossil shuttle]

The Otyugh has a higher int than the paladin in our normal party, he has a 3

[fossil hollow]

your paladin is essentially a dog

[violet basin]

no 'adventuerer' should have an intelligence under 8....
you can't actually function with an int of 3....

[knotty basin]

How does your paladin has 3 int

[fossil hollow]

rolled stats say otherwise

[limber trail]

rolled four 1s I guess

[snow agate]

Otyughs smell terrible all the time, honestly just see if you can sell it to a city to throw in the sewer

[fossil shuttle]

We roll for stats, he rolled 4 1's

[violet basin]

im not saying it didnt happen

im saying, its dumb to have an adventuerer with THREE intelligence

[fossil hollow]

thats the way rolled stats... roll

[limber trail]

sometimes thats how the dice go

[fiery nimbus]

DM ought to be some sort of sadist to not let the Paladin reroll that

[snow agate]

Sometimes the price of gambling is you lose

[violet basin]

yea, that should be a reroll or set to a minimum of 6, 7, or 8...

[fiery nimbus]

Live by Rolling, Die by Rolling i guess

[violet basin]

dnd is a game, ya ya ya
but its also has to be somewhat realistic about a Int score of 3

[fossil shuttle]

He did let him reroll 1's, he just rolled it twice

[fossil hollow]

at that point the dice say the paladin is a beast now

[knotty basin]

Does he roleplay like he has 3 int?

[violet basin]

can't actually understand language more complex then "me, eat, now"

[knotty basin]

If so that’s really funny

[violet basin]

worse than an Ogyrn

[fossil shuttle]

Sometimes. He's a hard-headed soldier, so he tends to lean towards solving problems through force or intimidation

[fossil hollow]

eh, INT has no bearing on what languages you understand or speak

[violet basin]

a paladin due to having and understanding their own oath, can't be be something with a low int

[violet basin]

Sir, that is litterally WHAT Intelligence is

[fiery nimbus]

By the gods, paladin's braincells never stood a chance

[fossil hollow]

Sir, thats literally how the rules of the game work

[knotty basin]

Yeah uh, 3 int is more like literal bird brain

[fossil hollow]

just because you have 3 int doesnt mean you cant speak or understand the languages you know

[violet basin]

it means you have the intelligence of a DOG, and the understanding of a DOG when it comes to language

[limber trail]

Rules as written, according to the text, no it does not

[fossil hollow]

Yes. and yet the rules dont say you lose languages

[fossil shuttle]

Which is really funny, 'cause my Rogue with that party is an aarakocra with 16 int

[fiery nimbus]

Thank goodness rules don't work like that
i would be hesitant to travel with a companion incapable of human speech

Personally everyone in the party should pass Harkness Test to be there

[fossil hollow]

you can say how it works IRL all you want, thats just not how the ability scores work

[violet basin]

im not saying HE can't play it, if the DM allows it
Im saying its just not something an Adventuerer, or a Paladin, could ever possibly have a score that low and be effective as sentient being.

maybe it works for Bards

their brains aren't in their noggins usually anyway....

[fossil hollow]

paladins dont need int in the first place...

[fiery nimbus]

I mean, point them in the right direction and they should be able to solve quite a bit of problems with the blood and steel

[fiery nimbus]

everyone needs some int, just not a lot of it

Quest Givers like em a lil bit stupid, keeps them on the task at hand

[limber trail]

the 3 intelligence is the minimum intelligence needed to be an adventurer. Lower and you can't function. The floor is 3.

[violet basin]

only because dice dont go lower than 1....

[atomic kayak]

Thats not true?

You don't even need 3 Int to understand language

[violet basin]

and 4d6 drop lowest is easier to remember than, 4d6 drop lowest, and if its intellgience, make it at least 5/6/7

[fiery nimbus]

Technically the limit is 1
below that Atrophy will proc and kill you

[limber trail]

I don't disagree, I'm just saying that acting like 3 int is unplayable is probably a bit extreme.

[atomic kayak]

Having 0 in a stat only does something negative to you (other than yknow. Having a 0) if it says it does

[violet basin]

i didnt say its unplayable, i said its beyond unrealistic and bordering on the realms of lunacy and fantasy of having an 'adventuerer' that can't even set up their own tent, fish for food, or comprehend complex instructions, etc....

[knotty basin]

That’s 1 more int than a rat

[fossil hollow]

stares in dragons and magic

what about realistic

[fiery nimbus]

And yes i know Atrophy is Shadows special ability that effects only strength

I am well aware, but i simply have no real idea how to reduce your stat to 0 without one of those nasty insta-kills activating

[knotty basin]

Are you telling me a rat and a half is going to make a good adventurer?

[fossil shuttle]

Now that I think about it, he kinda acts like Heavy from tf2 when he roleplays

[atomic kayak]

some specific curses and things namely

[violet basin]

you'd have to play a race with a negative score modifer, and somehow get another negative score modifier, on a 3 roll?

[fiery nimbus]

As far as im aware, Intellect Devourer has the only way to hit your INT strong enough to bop you from 3 to 0

[violet basin]

like half-orc from 3.5 with -2? cha or int was it?

[fossil shuttle]

I will have you know my warlock I'm using has a pet rat and she is very helpful

[fossil hollow]

Deck of many things has a card that reduces your INT/WiS score

not sure if that has a minimum though

[violet basin]

Wolf specifically, has an intellgience of 3....

[fiery nimbus]

"Idiot. Permanently reduce your Intelligence by 1d4 + 1 (to a minimum score of 1). You can draw one additional card beyond your declared draws."

and no im not insulting you, thats literal name of the effect

[atomic kayak]

theres also detrimentral properties on some magic items

[violet basin]

dndb doesnt have a way to sort monsters by specific ability score, darn

[fossil hollow]

lots of constructs have 1 INT

[atomic kayak]

What are you trying to search exactly

[fiery nimbus]

bet it would be easy to find if DNDB search wasn't just outright terrible

[fossil hollow]

and understand a language

[violet basin]

so lots of things that are guided by built in programing?

[fossil hollow]

yeap

[knotty basin]

That’s because they’re mindless and effectively programmed

[violet basin]

and are specifically, not flesh and blood with a brain, and being an adventuerer?

[fossil hollow]

and their master's orders

[fossil shuttle]

beholder zombie, blood hawk, cat, chimera, clay golem, death dog, dire wolf, elephant, giant goat, giant wolf spider, gibbering mouther, grick, iron golem, jackal, killer whale, lion, mammoth, mane, mastiff, octopus, panther, ogre zombie, owlbear, roc, saber-toothed tiger, slaad tadpole, swarm of ravens, stone golem, tarrasque, tiger, wolf, young remorhaz, zombie (found a list of things with 3 int)

[fossil hollow]

warforged and autognomes are constructs, and can also be adventurers

[fiery nimbus]

You just got me curious about 0 in stat and im trying to find something that would reduce it to 0 without killing you

[knotty basin]

Yeah but they’re not mindless

[violet basin]

and are also specfiically playable races, with caveats and dont count as constructs as fars i know in the rules

[atomic kayak]

A very large amount of those notably understand language - even if they aren't necessarily (physically) capable of speaking (as well as things with even lower Int)

[fiery nimbus]

They do have a Soul

[fossil hollow]

Nope, both are specifically Construct creature type

(2024 Warforged that is)

[meager fractal]

so hold person won't work on warforged PCs?

[fossil hollow]

Yeap

[violet basin]

Warforged "comrpsies a blend of organic and inorganic materials"

[tame estuary]

no

[knotty basin]

Not flesh though

[fossil hollow]

wont work on 2024 warforged. autognomes, satyrs, changelings. kalashtar, centaurs, thrikreen to name a few

[fiery nimbus]

Correct
Hold Person also won't work on
-Centaurs
-Plasmoids
-Changlings
-Fairy
-Satyrs

and others like it

[fossil hollow]

Oh i was missing Plasmoid and faery

[violet basin]

regardless, my original statement of 3 intelligence is NOT viable to be an Adventuterer, or much of anything in the training of weapons and armor, or much more beyond fetching and dumping slop buckets down a hole.

[atomic kayak]

3 Int is viable

[fiery nimbus]

and i forgot Thrikreen are not Humanoids

[vale sage]

My player finder won't let me post one

[tame estuary]

if you got 3 int, that's like perfect

[fossil hollow]

Did you read the instructions in #find-a-game

[tame estuary]

low wisdom might be peak, but 3 int is the greatest thing there is

[knotty basin]

For killing stuff, sure, but not holding meaningful conversations

[atomic kayak]

There is ofc a discussion to be had about how people act like something like 7 Int is incapable of reading/barely capable of speaking. Which blatantly is not true

[fiery nimbus]

I mean, it is a perfect statline for a Paladin, not a lot of thinking to be done
if you kill someone you are not supposed to, your god will surely resurrect them

[knotty basin]

They might be able to talk, but they can’t speak if that makes sense

[tame estuary]

I feel like I have 3 int irl

[fiery nimbus]

Average is 10

[atomic kayak]

This is definitely not true. There are quite a number of creatures with 3 or fewer Int who fully understand languages, if not capable of also speaking them

[tame estuary]

I feel like I have 3 int irl

[atomic kayak]

Fully understanding the language means fully understanding it

[woven flint]

You forgot Autognomes too smh

[knotty basin]

I’m not arguing with that

[fiery nimbus]

some things should stay forgotten

[fossil hollow]

listed them too

[woven flint]

Oh....

Anyways imma touch you

[atomic kayak]

Thats exactly what you argued though?

[violet basin]

that also means Hold Person wont work on custom lineage races if they include a hint of anything hold person wont work on?

[atomic kayak]

no

[fossil hollow]

CL is humanoid

[fiery nimbus]

no, there is no option to change your creature type for custom lineage

@fossil hollow we forgot Hexblood's

[fossil hollow]

Oh you so right, cant believe i forgot about them

[median spear]

hey does anyone have a good statblock for an infantry unit? like around medieval time period, homebrew is fine too

[fossil hollow]

Guard

[atomic kayak]

guard, knight, tough. Among numerous others

[fiery nimbus]

I do like that WOTC did decide to include more types of creatures in the playable pool
I am a little sad though they didn't add more spells that target those specificic types

[violet basin]

there's both guard and soldier stat blocks widely available

[fiery nimbus]

Very few spells target constructs or Ooze specifically

at least Fey do have a fair array of spells to be used against them

Having one enemy capable of casting Protection from Good and Evil will reshuffle the party priorities quite a bit

[tame estuary]

I kinda like that some creature types are just inherently easier to deal than others

got a cleric in the party, run with 4x more undead

[fiery nimbus]

Again, there are no real spells that specifically target Constructs and Oozes
Usually the spells you are going to use on them will be those that effects general term "Creature"

[atomic kayak]

it would be a bigger deal if it mattered from the DM perspective.

A PC being immune to hold person only "really" matters in a pvp scenario. Which well. Doesn't matter.

[past sedge]

What's everyone's favorite subclass and why? Trying to find new things to play around with if you'll share with me

[shy stirrup]

Maybe there needs to be a Hold Ooze spell 😄

[fossil hollow]

subclass for what class

[tame estuary]

I love champion fighter because if you roll a 19 it crits

[woven flint]

Berserker.
Simple. Brutal. Fun.

[meager fractal]

It takes a white dragon hundreds if not thousands of years to reach an intelligence score of 10 (that of the average commoner)

[glass granite]

Elemental Warrior monk, because I like punch, and I like flames

[violet basin]

Gloom Stalker, Phantom, and Samurai
Preferably, at once as the same character (2014 version)

[fossil hollow]

just hundreds. They already reach ancient by 800

[snow agate]

Draconic sorcerer, light cleric, battle master fighter, ancients paladin, moon druid

[shy stirrup]

Battlemaster, my precious

[meager fractal]

Rune Knight. It's just so deliciously versatile and tanky.

[fossil hollow]

Oh technically they can eat their own echoes to get a massive boost in INT

[fiery nimbus]

Technically it could matter, just very rarely
frankly in all of the years i played DnD, i meet enemy casters in the same frequency i meet dragons

[woven flint]

Berserker is one the the only barbarian subclasses I'll play consistently because there's no magical mumbo-jumbo to it

[fossil hollow]

dont remember how intelligent a greatwyrm is though

[past sedge]

How do you make that work on one character

[past sedge]

One of my personal favorite

[violet basin]

well, i dont see greatwyrm on dndb, but ancient is 10 int, so greatwrym can't be much beyond that

[fossil hollow]

multiclassing

[fossil hollow]

Its in Fizbans. See Chromatic/WHite Greatwyrm

[snow agate]

Honestly true dms are very rare to include casters

[violet basin]

Easily. 8/8/4 is a good split,with plenty of damage, skills, utility, social power, etc

[fiery nimbus]

Echo Knight Dhympir can bite their own Echo
(It doesn't says its a construct)

[meager fractal]

Guess I'm not a "true" DM then

[violet basin]

white greatywrm is 21 int somehow.... same as Silver...

[shy stirrup]

Same?

[fossil hollow]

Ok, searched it up, they have 21 INT as a greatwyr,

[snow agate]

Yeah that’s definitely what I was saying yep

[tame estuary]

are you updating to the new dhampir?

[shy stirrup]

Ya'll don't Counterspell those heals? No? 😛

[fiery nimbus]

a bloody shame that one
a minor casters with control spells can shake up the encounters quite a bit

[fossil hollow]

lots of knowledge from eating other versions of themselves (i hate how the greatwyrms are templates)

[marble lion]

Why would true dms rarely include casters?

[crimson gulch]

i counterspelled a mass cure wounds and a mass healing word the other day

[violet basin]

Fizbans has ALL the greatwyrms at 21 int, which is dumb

[fossil hollow]

no

[fiery nimbus]

ain't a thing like "true DM"

[fossil hollow]

Gems are all 30

[shy stirrup]

That's the spirit

[fiery nimbus]

yet to meet a false one

[marble lion]

Casters are a perfectly normal choice for enemies im confused

[crimson gulch]

they smartly burned all the liches reactions before going for the revivify

[violet basin]

whomever wrote thos stat blocks should be fined

[fiery nimbus]

Correct, doesn't mean they are used often

[thorn ermine]

Hey everyone I’m new. How do I go about making a post looking for some players?

[fossil hollow]

not a fan of the statblocks for them ngl. I ran one, it was underwhelming

[shy stirrup]

Then they clearly earned that one 🙂

[marble lion]

Im pretty sure it is expected to have spellcasters in the game

[violet basin]

#find-a-game

[snow agate]

Sigh

[thorn ermine]

Thank you

[snow agate]

I need to add commas so that people don’t see things in the worst way smh

[fossil hollow]

/j is all you need

text literally does not translate tone

[snow agate]

Honestly true, dms- happy

[violet basin]

i wish my DMs would throw more magic users at me...I'm a yaun-ti

[marble lion]

How would a comma change this?

[tame estuary]

yawn-tea

[snow agate]

I just showed it

[marble lion]

You mean before dms

Ah you posted while i scrolled

That does change it around nevermind

[fiery nimbus]

Exactly, if given player is strong against something, you can always hit them with that to reinforce that

[meager fractal]

I always like to shoot arrows at my monks!

[fiery nimbus]

If your paladin has 25 AC, you don't ignore them, you hit them. Have the enemy say "oh shit" and make em run for the hills

[meager fractal]

So they can catch them (and sometimes throw em back at me)

[fossil shuttle]

As an aarakocra rogue, my DM likes pitting me against fast-moving targets or heavily armored ones

[fiery nimbus]

Exactly, lovely lovely reinforcement, than you can go back to killing the wizard

DM once let my high level bard have a magic contest against the local deity using control weather, it was awesome

Love to look at what players can do and sometimes throw something they would be good at, and sometimes something to shake em up

[violet basin]

my DM gave my now deceased gloom stalker / phantom / samurai a Chronolometer it was fun.
"oh, i should have read that better" moment from him

[fiery nimbus]

Anyway I have to go back to building my 9 AC warlock to somehow not die mid game

[fossil shuttle]

I had a field day using my warlock today, cause I normally can't use magic. I vaporized a troll's head with a level 4 hellish rebuke after it dealt 7 damage to me

[violet basin]

rope trick shenanagins

[fiery nimbus]

Nah
Genie Vessel + Tomb of Lavistus

[woven flint]

Just get good, that's the solution

[violet basin]

hide behind other players and let them take the attacks

one of the things i learned while playing my own warlock (who does have decent ac) is that if you just go Prone in the back of the fight, it usually works out alright

[fossil shuttle]

I feel like dex is one of those things you really don't want a minus in as a light/no armor class

[fiery nimbus]

Oh I dump Dex on this character

[violet basin]

unles you're a hex warrior with medium armor...

[fossil shuttle]

I did say a light or no armor class, that wouldn't include someone with medium armor

[fiery nimbus]

Prone or hiding won't help you, you need total cover

[violet basin]

prone gives ranged attacks against you disadnavantage

but yes, cover is better (if available)

[woven flint]

And gives melee attacks advantage against you

[fiery nimbus]

Correct, with 9 AC disadvantage does not matter

[violet basin]

thats what a front line is for - just dont be it

[fiery nimbus]

If you are getting attacked, you are getting hit

[woven flint]

Nah, I'm gonna Frontline regardless

[snow agate]

Phrases like these are why I let my mages get attacked sometimes, as a treat

[violet basin]

lol

[fiery nimbus]

My favorite enemy, Phase Spider
Because i don't care about your party formation and your frontlane is where i say it is

[snow agate]

Oh no I’m sorry warlock I just didn’t think about the knight charging at you I was focused on fighting the other guy

[fiery nimbus]

So like i said, my Warlock is a Demon Summoner (Exclusively summon Greater Demon) and also a genie warlock so I can just hide in my Genie Vessel until DM breaks it

[violet basin]

my warlock is pretty tanky and can fly, and he's got a thing for Hellish Rebuking

[violet basin]

dont forget to use mage hand to carry your genie vessle around

[snow agate]

Sounds like an archer with extra steps if that’s what the spells get used on :p

[woven flint]

Hellish Rebuke is honestly a horrible spell

[fiery nimbus]

I have a familiar and party members for that

[fossil shuttle]

Am I my party's warlock? Yes.
Am I staying in the back? No.
Am I going to punch that troll so hard with a pair of brass knuckles I can grab its intestines? You bet.

[fiery nimbus]

im pact of Chain Warlock

[snow agate]

It’s adequate for anyone that isn’t a warlock

[violet basin]

not much else to do with his reaction or spell slots, eldritch blast, and stars druid archer for damage

[glass granite]

Hi pact of chain warlock, I’m Nugget

[woven flint]

Hi, Nugget, I'm the zesty cat haunting your dreams

[glass granite]

Why did you jump into that blender yesterday

[woven flint]

Because it was epic

[glass granite]

You got blood on my floor