💬-events-feedback

[uneven jolt]

FC Sisko is missing in this event

[slow ermine]

i'm assuming all the "retrieving" are other servers because it only does that when its XSLB or RLB

[slow ermine]

Here it loaded. None of these are on my server

[surreal warren]

the last time Scopely screwed it up they did a lazy job and just renamed the announced SLB to a RLB later, never compensated us for that bug.

i warn you twice: if they do this again we will let hell loose

[stark warren]

So… any word on a fix for outposts before I go and waste a start for this ill-timed event?

[molten marlin]

not fixed

[surreal warren]

can you name at least one thing that got fixed during last week?

[shadow trellis]

War room claims

[surreal warren]

i dont talk about a one-time-fix
i meant a permanent one by changing codebase and test it to make it work as intended

[stark warren]

Thanks for the prompt reply AT.

[rustic rover]

we have an Outposts event today but there are still outstanding bugs that seriously affect Outposts. will there be compensation?

[boreal coyote]

This multiphasic event is cray cray.

[atomic birch]

So many homeworks.. 😅

[split gull]

And not a single person is surprised. Only things that benefit the player get fixed.

[wet crag]

Wonderful, updated AT, but will we actually get the currency reward or at least at response from support about it when its missing ? LOL fix stuff first please sigh

[stable bronze]

hope with the new alliance tourny stuff being.. the reroll wont be 💩.. a low ops shouldnt be getting stuff they have no chance of doing (IE: a player lower than 61 rerolling and getting a spend sigma task someone who cant even get to gorn space doesnt get a gorn task, etc)

[fast leaf]

the tournament changes sounds like scopely has to many players

[molten marlin]

Stop spamming and cross posting

[slate coral]

All of those officers mentioned affect either "Hostiles" or "Ships"

I assume "Ships" means "Hostiles"

Since neither outposts or armadas count as "Hostiles" those officers shouldnt work anyways.

I am assuming your apex barrier does not trigger for this reason either

[ashen notch]

Like most of the AT changes, exceptions being the legendary task stuff (because im sure its heavily monetized) and the changes to reroll tokens. Its painfully obvious this is being done because too many players were happy with their ability to reroll as much as they needed in order to get tasks which fit their needs. I really appreciate Scopely removing player choice and once again giving their full commitment to stifling player progression.

Oh, and still no G5 scrapping???

[amber wyvern]

"If Sigma Reroll Token Balance reaches 4,000 they will not be able to claim additional Sigma Reroll Tokens."

This is proof you hate your players and really want to control too much still.

Why do I even play this still?

Where is the Good G5 Scrapping, Good G6 Scrapping & G6 freebooters?

[uneven jolt]

Would be nice if Gain power events also have Ship XP scoring also. This is built to force me to OPS up. So hope next time there is ship XP in power gain events

[surreal warren]

it was there - they removed ship exp intentionally to screw the players

[copper shadow]

this new change in tournaments is gonna go the way of arena's with even less participants than arena's. Funny how everytime scopley gives a q.o.l. change to something 95% of the time it makes things worse.

[worldly cedar]

So the fact that we give it 100% in tournaments and have got over 2mil in emerald chain xp means we wasted our time and money building up that much as it will not go towards the new chain. 🚽

[restive wolf]

"The cost of Officer Badge redemption will be adjusted, though they will still be purchasable with existing Alliance Tournament Credits, alongside updates to task frequency and changes to the cost of some Heroic Syndicate and Heroic G6 Uncommon Material Tasks."

Is there any other way to read this than they will make it even harder to get badges and the F2P 10k tasks are about to get nuked even harder? (Not that the syndicate task was F2P but the G6 uncommon mat task is most people's bread and butter to go 15/15 10k tasks)

[novel totem]

<@&509690795536941056> Oh my oh my. I just read the alliance tournament blog entry. Why do I get the feeling that all the mistakes that were made when AT were introduced are just getting repeated all over again.

For most established players in the top league AT is just silly chore with an annoying "playing the slot machine to get the right tasks and having infinite rerolls". Another daily time waste like clicking all 100 options in the different stores and refineries.

The rewards from the AT store are alreay stale or I don't want them or I have maxed them.

Additions to AT were quite rare. Overdue acceleration for Dauntless, Relativity, Reliant, Serene Squall, Titan never were added there.

Many "prime particles" that are "on the market" for 2 or more years are not added there.

Refits and other stuff is not added there. That led to players amassing huge amounts of Tournament currency - I'm over 120k right now.

Now you do a soft reset. From how it reads most of the more "valueable and new" options will be gated behind the legendary currency, which is probably gated by a very limited amount of tasks or rerolls or a selection of tasks favoring massive spend. (Which I will not do for AT).

Changing rerolls just makes AT even more cumbersome, as your choice in tasks will be very limited - no more "cherry picking".

What alliance tournaments should have been from the start:

• An engagement battle between alliances. Where spend buys a bit of an advantage - say score worth 3 F2P members or so.
• Tasks should be a choice not a slot machine, with each task only completable once per day or once per X days.
• Tasks should be meaningful: Upgrade ships, upgrade buildings, kill hostilse, launch armadas, do some mining, maybe include pvp, finish daily goals etc. Basically play the game at 110% engagement. Not "buy a pack".

Yeah, this is some pre-pitchforking. Surprise me that I'm wrong - but with the recent (ah well recent in since the start of the game) track record of changes this will be just another huge cash grab.

[copper shadow]

oh definitely gonna be a cash grabs and how can the players think anything but when they see no refresh tokens will be given in tasks and only 800 tokens through daily claims with 100 tokens per refresh and it all together and our choices are more limited than before just because we won't have the option of taking good tasks it will be reroll if ya want but you got 8 shots to do 3 tasks that have old currency and or new currency while trying to get most points you can to keep your league to get the choice rewards that ya know has been inflated by 4x what they used to be

wow you still typing star ocean ya must be making a whole chapter can't wait to read it lol

[odd dock]

the problem with the AT store is that it doesnt offer impactful progress. what i mean is the rewards were good over time but thats the point. if you know know you can get something unlocked within 3 ATs (3 months) you would probably spend in one of those months to ensure you got the item (as long is there was no dumbas cooldown or limit restricting you). time-gating stuff with cooldowns is the number 1 wallet block. why spend on something you dont get immediately (or potentially wont unlock because scopely failed with a task/event/maintenance/patch/lag)? not happening right?

having a higher draw on stuff in the shop means you can rotate every 3+ months and the new shiny stuff will keep ppl spending. stale shop = stale spend.

all this kneejerk reworking was obvoiusly some kids idea during easter holidays on a chocolate high. I appreciate that scopely trying to save money, go green, save the planet, fiddle the books, etc.. but asking a kid for ideas high on chocolate was not a good choice.

<@&509690795536941056> pass this along to TIM tyvm.

i mean many ppl now buy the BP unlock a few days before the end to be sure they get the FULL rewards, and not have the chance missing out because of a scopely marbles up.

[boreal coyote]

<@&509690795536941056> so lots of chat about this. But honestly, why would you have an outpost event when the officers we know and rely on don’t work. You guys are the ones that limited the pool ( ie excluding mada officers etc). It’s kinda crazy. Just my 2 cents.

[restive wolf]

To be fair, that's how most games do battlepasses.

It's just that they are usually the same price and last 3 months in other games, even heavily monetized ones...

[odd dock]

i mean, a lot of smart spenders will only buy the battlepass at the end when its complete so they are sure they get t all, because lets be fair, a lot of players have been unable to claim full rewards because scopely did something ... and either moved to end of arc buying or stopped spending completely because cs wouldnt give them any bp points after arc conclusion.

[restive wolf]

The standard for uptime is quad nines. 99.99%. That is as incomprehensible to Scopely as a Baja Blast would be to a medieval peasant.

[left marlin]

<@&509691205798592532> Can you plz tell the Overlords to change the name of the Transogen Hunt (Alliance) Maverick task? It’s a little misleading cuz it makes it sound like a mining task. At least insert the word ‘Hostile’ in there or something

[proven sparrow]

"We are not doing CoTA event anymore"
"Here is a brand new event - CoTA renamed to FCI With much less capability of earning rewards since we chopped the amount of winners possible in rankings"

[elfin nest]

What's up with the Outpost event. When you capture it I used to get 10pts and then 1 pt per level 51 hostiles.

I can't do 53 yet so if I get 1 pt only and need 350 to complete then need to run 12 of these. I don't have 36 hrs

[agile latch]

If you give a ship upgrade event where most of the special ships don't count anything, admitting the are old, put them to IA.

[pulsar hearth]

comp or pull the Outpost events if they are broken, jeez guys

[shadow yew]

i saw the outpost events and just swipe left. lol.

[somber hinge]

Outposts still not working as written in known issues, but also still no concrete possibility for player to evaluate if you are affected.. 👏
And counting fights in the log is no option, when you have in parallel 2 ships in texas space!

[torpid vessel]

Have to agree with folk above that running an outpost event knowing that they’re broken is not a great move scopely

[somber hinge]

the entire game is broken... thats no reason obviously.

[torpid vessel]

Incorrect, you can still buy packs so only 95% broken 😂

[somber hinge]

Buying packs is not an in-game mechanic. Surely, this stuff is developed via a competent team (most probably external). Therefor I stick to "entire".

[torpid vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-laugh-four-gif-7446278225827837893

[obsidian ether]

Not worried about Alliance Tournament power creep with new 30 milestones ? Will PVP come down to what Emerald Chain level you have lol ?

[surreal warren]

can we please have an update on this issue?

[restive wolf]

Pvp encounters are already extremely one sided except for a tiny, tiny minority of edge cases.

I think Emerald Chain will be a tie breaker between two similarly crewed ships with maxed tech.

Kind of like how premium mirror research operates.

[obsidian ether]

You probably talking endgame. At mid ops those bonuses and crew make big difference. At high ops with iso dmg/defense, apex barrier/shred, cirt chance/dmg maxed out on both sides, the combat probably comes down to classic armor/pen and number of shots ?

anyways, all those combat mechanics are badly planned and make no sense if you let people max it out by default

like Joahim who gives you 500% iso defense, and you can get him pretty early

[dreamy solstice]

th outpost events - hold(heroic), defeat hostiles at your grade is a complete farce, did you forget you made them impossible to do unless you dropped many sizes below "your grade",, nowt but a piece of scamming dirt, about time you stopped using the excuse of making things a challenge, that no one of majority asked for and inclde every single lv of outpost you made and not only ones of " your grade", a complete farce when you have to start many lvs lower just to get a foothold, complete farce, not that any of this will get listened too, sing the minority of whales are the only ones you do at times listen too

[late orchid]

How many more events can you cram on a single day . Its like you crazy people think we dont all have lives outside of this game. And why in the heck are you running outpost events if they and the officers most of us need to punch up to our ops lvl are still broken?

[restive wolf]

Talking G6 for sure. I know that things like some of the pvp primes are very strong at G4 and become a rounding error at G6.

[surreal warren]

... sing the minority of whales are the only ones you do at times listen too
not anymore

[slow ermine]

They just relabeled it to RLB - you know the quick fix.

[late orchid]

YES! ... whoever desgind these first contact heroic events is a genius... make 1 of the 2 ways to gain points in said event something I dont even have access to as an ops 70... I get they are heroic and are supposed to be harder... but unattainable? Do better

[somber hinge]

same. ...just brilliant!

[glass pewter]

<@&509690795536941056> Can i score in today’s Brokered Alliances (Heroic) - SMS for archiving my account because that’s all this event makes me want to do.

[deft cargo]

lies, nothing about it in how to earn points description

[empty robin]

Oh, it gets better, I am ops 68 and have the same SMS/SLB...

[gloomy current]

<@&509690795536941056>
Unlike G7 players, G6 players don't get FKR Sigma credits, please fix.
Can you please mock whoever it is that clearly doesn't know your own game.

[late orchid]

Somehow not even surprised...

[high aurora]

You misplaced a decimal somewhere….right? <@&509690795536941056>

[late orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/you-funny-laura-bruh-youre-funny-youre-hilarious-gif-25015942

[high aurora]

I thought Legendary tasks were coming for Alliance Tournaments, not SMS’

[quaint vessel]

Total joke of an event. I have no idea who did the maths or thought up the scoring metrics but they have taken lessons from people who think that a 600% discount is possible.

[empty robin]

Its gonna be Legendary how much money you will spend...

[plucky cove]

And the scoring - 1 pt per syndicate xp. So….18M to complete the event. Even if I was a spender (which I’m most definitely not), that would take $400 (AT syndicate pack gives 4.9M syndicate xp, so you’d need to buy 4 at 99.99 a pop). Just insane.

[gloomy current]

https://media.tenor.com/E5cO8U3p4qAAAAAM/dumb-stupidity.gif

[surreal warren]

not on my end, it still shows the intended naming

[scarlet tartan]

First Contact event today is just ridiculous. I can a) somehow get 18m+ Syndicate points or b) gain 9 ops levels to access G7 sigma faction credits?

[agile latch]

C) Don't care at all.

[surreal warren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyrT0-vQyGM&t=29s

[scarlet tartan]

RIP CotA

[bitter basalt]

@full swan@near saddle How the frak can we score if at lv 70 we dont have access to Sigma FKR?

[scenic thunder]

scopely thought we were all 71+

[stable bronze]

it's scoply math.. 1+1 =5, 5-2= 50, 9/0 = 2, 59*4 = 1
90% is actualy 20%, and 40% = 85%

[coral wraith]

Why not make us spend G7 mats at 69 too?

[terse harbor]

Have you forgotten to hit the start button for the SLB, that is advertised along with the SMS for today?????

[coral wraith]

@full swan Why are G6 players being given an event that’s focused around spending sigma FKR credits?

[terse harbor]

I have that and am only Ops 52. No Fork in Chance.

[crisp nymph]

hope everyone enjoys the last year of STFC. i thought it would take longer but man Scopley sure is trying hard

[terse harbor]

They sure seem to be actively trying to get people to give up the game, so there's less people to complain when they do pull the plug on it. 💩💩

[ocean crypt]

way to go to rip=off the FC initiative, gain 18m syndicate pts (ops 70 minus) plus/or spend sigma fkr credits( ops 71+ only), what a shame , you scamming sons

[jagged urchin]

what a crap : ops 67 and supposed to spend sigma credits

[steady tiger]

A little math help from a dumb player: remove the Sigma crap and let the event run for 19 days. Then at least I'll be able to finish it.

[prisma night]

@coral wraithto entice you to SPEND!!! and level up

[dark horizon]

Uhm, I am mid 60-s, i would need to get to 71 to even have be able to spend Sigma credits, nein ?

[crisp nymph]

dont forget about the rep to actually spend them

[limber zephyr]

cashed in every drop of synd xp I could for free and not even 1st milestone... lmao

[dark horizon]

If CotA could have been made even worse, this event is it

[dark horizon]

Same here, even doing it again tomorrow before event reset, won't make it to first milestone

[ocean crypt]

even the outpost heroic - hold , is out of order, need to hit lv 66 , but even as a fresh ops 70, with the use of 3 ships, still can't last a 63, so what a farce

[elfin mural]

I'm a G6 player, why is there an event to spend 250.000 SIGMA faction credits?!

[coral wraith]

The silence from community mods speaks volumes.

[ocean crypt]

cause scopely only care about their whales giving them cash so they can complete their side of the events

[buoyant dawn]

Scopely requiring 60-69 to use Sigma Faction Credits, (which we can't obtain until we reach 70+, and even if we rushed to 70 it wouldn't magically gice us the Credits. We'd just be underpowered and SOL) to be able to score/complete an event is the MOST SCOPELY THING they've done in years.

[blissful timber]

You actually have to be ops 71 and also have enough faction rep to use those faction credits - so basically … impossible to even spend/rush it

[surreal warren]

immer, wenn eine aufgabe "...(heroisch)" im namen hat, dann bedeutet es man muss massiv viel echtgeld ausgeben, um diese überhaupt zu schaffen

darum:
heroisch = automatisch ignorieren

[scenic flint]

<@&509690795536941056> are you kidding me? That's an impossible event to finish for an ops 66 player because we dont get access to sigma faction credits and I dont even want to know how many Syndicate packs it would take to reach 18 million points

[buoyant dawn]

Still, the most Epic-ly Scopely thing they've done since the new management came along

[blissful timber]

I’m ops 71 and am not close to the faction rep to using sigma credits - probably about 3 weeks out lmao

[civic oak]

Not sure how a 24 ops will have 500k fleet commander xp....we get 1500 a day lol

[surreal warren]

they seem busy asking AI for made up replies to gaslight and calm down the playerbase

[coral wraith]

or @full swan is still searching the web for the cringiest possible GIF to post instead of giving anyone an actual answer like he always does.

[copper shadow]

because if you're not g7 you don't matter so they make us wanting to do xyz event which means we push up then we caught being able to do nothing because without packs ya can't event in the 70s

[high elm]

can we get more daily events or am I addicted to this game? both can true but I am probably insane.

[polar tapir]

$1500

[scenic flint]

lol, I didn't want to know!

[onyx lynx]

I really have nothing new to add to the conversation. We are all pretty used to the events requiring lofty but achievable goals to really get good rewards. Thats fine, some people plan things out and flood an SLB when they have a good stockpile and they are rewaded for their strategic thinking. But an event that requires you to spend currency that most of the player base cannot even get thir hands on is simply going to tick people off. I try to be positive because I really love this game, but man, they are making it harder and harder!

Please scopely, stop trying to ruin this game!

[boreal coyote]

<@&509690795536941056> I think we deserve an actual today answer on this redonk Borked Alliances Heroic SMS. It’s either ignorance ( a mistake ), or fiendish. I’m first place in the SLB and not even 1/2 way to the first milestone of a one day event.

[austere wharf]

can i get a link to the incursion scoring please? thanks this is our 1st incursion after all the changes on how you can score.

[molten marlin]

pvp kills, destroying klingon armadas

that's it

[austere wharf]

good gravy. ok thanks

[ashen maple]

This one really does deserve some explanation - insanely ridiculous event.

[dark horizon]

its "only" $400 in Syndicate Packs /s

[mild path]

<@&509690795536941056> for me ref shows sigmas are obtainable ops71+, how then ops 67 can finish this event? Syndicate pack contains 2m, so ypu expect me to buy 3 packs to complete daily event?

[ivory cape]

I am nowhere even close to G7, this is some garbage

[elfin nest]

You are running an event that gives first contact recruit tokens but where is the event store to claim it.

[dark horizon]

Officers / Recruit

[shadow trellis]

I’ll give you a clue as you even said it , recruit 🤔

[molten marlin]

It was missing from the officer tab, but it's back now

[elfin nest]

Thank! Apart from looking in the wrong place it wasn't there yesterday. Glad it's bacj

[vernal breach]

Lol, it's not like I can spend them at 71 either! I'm still 7t rep shy. Commiserating, not complaining lol.

[fiery forge]

Why give events for sigma credits to players who aren’t high enough to even get sigma credits

[wheat pasture]

So you will feel compelled to $pend.

[fiery forge]

Provide a quality game, I will spend

[wheat pasture]

Yeah...I don't see that happening.

[fiery forge]

Neither do I

[hard bronze]

An event where we can spend Faction Sigma Credits. But at OPS 56 this would be hard

[pulsar hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-literally-impossible-not-happening-no-way-pass-not-interested-gif-16838005

[charred briar]

Wait are you Ops 67? My MS is three times yours on my 67 account.

[stark warren]

Why aren’t we having Sarris 2.0 this interim?

[coarse iris]

Because his syndicate level hasn't reached 55 yet, I guess

[alpine lance]

I'm glad I'm not the only one scratching my head on this event.

[shadow trellis]

I really have no words for this

[uneven jolt]

I think this MACO War Machine-SMS, have good milestones for a OPS 28 There is only the Franklin that i can score in and i have it maxed. The other ships in this event are for bigger ops than me. The Relient would be ok as thats a ship you was running a arc for. So have the BP for thats ship.

[boreal coyote]

• <@&509690795536941056> - your silence speaks volumes

[barren grail]

The description mentions getting points from promoting and leveling up officers, and spending trait points. Nothing is shown in the "how to earn points" boxes, and no points were given when I promoted and leveled up officers

[coarse iris]

Better solution would be to run Mavericks fuction credits instead of sigma stuff but its too late now, bets been placed

[civic oak]

They said in #👾-bug-reporting that even though trait xp isn't listed it counts

Haven't tried it though

[dark horizon]

Lol, why is my last MS at 18mil at a lower ops level when this shows 6M at ops 67 ? Help it make sense.

[coarse iris]

Syndicate level

[coral wraith]

Are they really just leaving this as is?

[ashen notch]

I wish they had this mentality with AT rerolls.

[coral wraith]

Just tried it. Trait XP did nothing

[wraith wasp]

It's only £400 😂

[limber zephyr]

pretty sure this is how things are going at $copely

[wraith wasp]

$4.99? That's a tad optimistic.

[limber zephyr]

prices always subject to change

[copper shadow]

the last actual post from a cm was on the 21st usally they're absent for 2 days if they aint on vacation which no one has alerted us like they usally do. This means they ain't being silent they're hiding or have been told to be silent from scopley which still tells way more than they should be. There bracing for the explosion that is on the horizon and I'm not sure they going to recover unless incursions and alliance tournament goes off without a hitch this month. If either doesn't work I can see a drop in players happening and they'd only have themselves to blame for doing nothing leading up to the events.

[tribal kindle]

Yep i am wondering how to score the sigma part as ops 64

[late orchid]

I do also so love how quiet any and all community mods are about the event with sigma credits...like they know its stoopid but dont dare step out of line <@&509690795536941056>

[mild path]

Its not only sigmas for ops below 70+, but for lower ops, ships that they cant have due to ops restrictions as well. This is so so stoopid that its hilarious. Whoever is in charge there must have two cells in their brain, one focus on inhale other one on exhale, thats it <@&509690795536941056>

[late orchid]

Yeah lowest I've heard of so far my from alliance is 63s seeing sigma reqs too... could be lower for all I know...

[proven sparrow]

Arsenic fed it back and Scopley said its working as intended.
So you either buy 4 rep packs or dont reach any milestones

[copper shadow]

sounds like i get to save myself 600$ lol darn Canadian prices

[small egret]

I’ve been okay with this COTA 2.0 for the most part, but as a level 70 I can’t get sigma FKR faction credits. There should’ve been at least one other means to score outside of syndicate.

[mild path]

They r trying to compensate for accounts that have left by slaping price tag on everything, instead of address issues that forced them wallets to move away, absolute stoopidity

[keen egret]

Actually those 2 brain cells are arguing over which one is the third most important.

[proven sparrow]

Thats exactly what they are doing.
Lost alot of revenue from the big spenders quitting due to Scopleys own behaviour.
So they try to recoop that loss by removing alot of free paths to unlock stuff putting the cost onto others
But all that is doing is pushing even more players out of the game

After the next Alliance Tournament im sure alot more will quit

[copper shadow]

the next batch of players leaving will be determined by this next incursions if it even happens (with new scoring) and/or the alliance tournament and new structure these 2 events will determine what happens with this game. Bad part is they've had time to address this and choose not to by saying nothing since the 21st

[tame terrace]

<@&509690795536941056> Please ask Scopely to explain how a 49 leader is matched with a 55 leader?

[tired moth]

an event based solely on spending money is just bloody shameless, combined with ongoing events that require the use of sigma FKR which no one under 71 is bewildering. In this day it would be easy to blame slop on AI but I dont even think the most basic model would come up with events this shallow and unattainable

[hazy hare]

If i'm 8th and the rest upper me not have much distance, then nobody under 60 are buying a pack on server 17.
Wait tomorrow at reset to view how many player have over 2mill of points.

At my level, need three $99 packs to fill sms 😂

And not get ore or gas epic 5* material for this!!! Only some epic 5* crystal if you stay in the 50.

[dark jewel]

I understand there are two pay-to-play events now. The syndicate one and the multiphasic one. Is that correct?

[cobalt grail]

anyone know what time the incurions start?

[ocean crypt]

depends on areas, eu 8utc/uk 9am

[light seal]

#💬-general-feedback message

[mighty swift]

Ya ya late to the comments but Really a scoring mechanic for ops 70 or less is sigma faction that is not even available till 71? Also a 1 day Syndicate Heroic Ya somebody missed the mark on that one

[marble cosmos]

You can’t

[tribal kindle]

Was not a question but sarcasm 😉

[fathom quail]

Ops 56 here and have that event too

[odd pollen]

All you have to do, is buy a few syn xp packs... Easy and totally worth it

https://tenor.com/view/sarcasm-sarcasm-sign-bbt-big-bang-theory-gif-24360926

[surreal warren]

have LAGS
NPC are stuck or teleporting around, warping not possible

[outer brook]

Why would people engage with this outdated incursions store? The only relevant item is the loot exo ...

[inner nova]

most haven't maxed the subspace building

[molten marlin]

very few have

[agile latch]

Solo G6 not scoring to incursion

[desert nimbus]

can't attack people after they kill an armada, their ships bug out

says "their ship is participating in armada" even though the armada is finished, then they just warp away

[surreal warren]

new feature ^^

[agile latch]

Group also not count

Great work. 2 months of hard testing.

[tender basin]

All of these events being buggy is compounded by the ever increasing lag. The slow response time when carrying out basic functions of the game, has made PvP and other player interactions so problematic.
And not solving the base raiding, but instead removing it from scoring is not an appropriate resolution from an organisation that wishes people to continue spending money on their product.

[hollow lichen]

the progress on that building via slaving away at incursion for 12h every time is beyond slow. Im at 45, to get it to 60 I need 127.500 of the materials. That will take 10 years worth of incursion winning every single SLB/ALB. All that for less than 700% hull health which in real terms is a 0.1% increase, if that. Warp speed bonus is meaningless in the same way these days and don't even begin about defense platform damage... a shield works a lot better to defend yourself. So there is no incentive whatsover to even push through the pain that is incursions anymore

[true tulip]

Another event broken as design <@&509690795536941056>

This printscreen is take 5-6 seconds after targeted ship destroyed armada. There is no fast pace action, only frustration and upset.

I really have only bad wishes for all your team today, all that waste of players’ time and effort… I will stop here.

[nimble solstice]

This new type of incursion is very boring and not engaging at all.

[astral cypress]

So when does EU401 get compensation for failed Incursion - just a reminder, you guys paired us with 405, weeks after you merged 405 into 401.... PvP with ships from own server doesnt count in the daily event... <@&509690795536941056>

[topaz spire]

Yup, it's impressive how they managed to make a terrible event even worse, even besides the bugs.

[outer brook]

But folks, you can earn parts for the subspace building. That's surely worth it.

[low thunder]

Are there any redeemcodes for beginner players?

[eager birch]

<@&509690795536941056> Off the topic of failed incursions.......🤣 Scopley, when will Cosmic Clean-up get a major overhaul... or even a dull polishing? Its great at first... helps you get all those shiny ships..... but once you get to higher G5 > G6+, and/or have all the ships, its pointless. I can imagine its not high on your list though since it seems that you are "revamping" everything that actually gives F2P players anything worth a darn.... so what's the rush, right? #G5_Scrapping!!!!

[proven sparrow]

@full swan The devs couldnt even be bothered to highlight all the Klingon Armada areas like invading entities for incursions? 🙈

[broken vine]

When is Incursions for US?

[surreal warren]

"runforrest" /sarcasm

promo codes for new players: #🌌-galaxy-chat message and here #🤝-help-each-other message
and you can try more codes, but no guarantee that they still will work:
#🤝-help-each-other message @low thunder

[latent brook]

Suggestion: add something to the Klingon armada links in alliance chat, that says it's on the opposing server. Currently there's no way to tell which server the armada is taking place on, until you click on it. You could even go one better and make it a 'magic link' that invokes the Incursion crossover in one tap.

[copper scroll]

Very underwhelming - very very boring

[stone glade]

The stupidity of the manufacturer is unmatched and will continue to drive down player numbers. Well done.

[agile latch]

Since they not scoring at all... Actually all scoring armadas are highlighted

[celest silo]

Just like most of the latest events they have been churning out, dull as dishwater! the loops they archived were much more fun. They have butchered Incursions, it was never an event for everyone but now those that did engage are not going to bother, we all know who is to blame. He needs to leave.

[chilly heron]

#🛠-known-issues message 👀 That's a bug that you can't hit other players? I thought it is intended to not be able to pvp, as you changed the event from a PvP to a PvE event. 🤷‍♀️

[dusk gyro]

Is there a problem with the scoring system for Klingon armadas? Because nobody understands how it works or how their points are being awarded.

[warm swallow]

The new scoring is 💩 Open an Armada and get shot by a OPS 72+ player....I guess I can ignore Incursion....

[coral bane]

That pathetic liar should have been fired months ago.

[gentle thunder]

Feedback - new version of incursions is rubbish. Crap. Bring back base raiding as a factor. This is not fun anymore.

[unique jackal]

-> #👾-bug-reporting message

Don't give servers that are on BYE events that they can't complete. In this case, it is the PvP one ("All Out War").

[high wharf]

Sigma Reroll Tokens? Why don't you just make sigma reroll tokens harder to get, but let us PICK what task we want to complete when we do it? Much like how Pokemon Go has TM's to change moves randomly or Elite TM's to choose what move we want?

[fading veldt]

what is an all systems orb?

[fading veldt]

?

[fading veldt]

oh i see need a cup of tea lol

[opaque hawk]

$900 to complete brokered alliances at ops 60 since no option for sigma credits, and it still only rewards g5 materials....wth

[tacit zephyr]

For an event that's supposed to be important like raids, the rewards are ridiculous and disgusting.💩 🤮 🚽

[upper mango]

It is the new OP STFC exploit … or maybe just a user nickname

[flat star]

💯 . This is a PvP oriented game and Incursions was designed that way. Who and why did they change it to this. Yeah, lets change PvP to only doing armada's. That is so much fun and of course the players will like that, right??? Right???

[tranquil yew]

Have you tried arenas? 🤣

[lone dragon]

Incursions have always been crap, Arenas have always been crap. Shields up and take a day off.

[midnight idol]

Starting to have loads of crap and not much things to do besides dailies nvm all the broken stuff.

[glass pewter]

So the scoring doesn’t display properly but we are supposed to compete against each other? What a joke this game has become

[mental scaffold]

I dont think the scoring is in fact working at all

armadas both group and solo do not make the score move, in fact PvP kills don't either

whatever is making the score slowly tickle up is lost on me though. but considering the kills between servers and armadas launched we are sitting at roughly 2000 for both servers which cannot be right

[mental scaffold]

I dont think klingon armadas actually count, PvP does not seem to count either so I have no idea what is making the score move but it is something else

[scarlet summit]

not even 1 player reached the 1st milestone, great event design!

[spiral veldt]

the new incursions feel less engaging than the old ones. it's me alone on the invaded server just spamming armadas and it gets boring quickly. at least the old method had alliances working together to raid and defend bases.

[scarlet summit]

you are right, but one player cant ruin the whole incursion now, which is really good

[spiral veldt]

cross server territory capture zones would be more engaging than what we have here. I agree the scoring needed to be adjusted so raiding wasn't as impactful but what we have now is just boring 💤

[round dew]

I'm unable to crossover. Just keeps burning my tokens and then not moving to the rival server.

[boreal sable]

well, way to ruin incursions. this is boring as heck now.

[molten marlin]

do you have ships in the veil?

[worldly grove]

Why isn’t Incursion store selling Armada directives???
Are we to blow our stash then be stuck for the next month??

[regal oxide]

Incursions Klingon armadas are definitely NOT scoring.
Wonder if Scopley will return all the wasted armada directives??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[molten marlin]

#🛠-known-issues

[round dew]

No. Im lvl 29 in a lvl 21 system in neutral space.

[sand geyser]

Suggestion: fix incursions before you run it again.

[wild pelican]

This new incursion scoring feels more....pacified. It sucks.

[polar isle]

I done now about 20 Solo G6 Armadas... and 0 chance on Scoring... is that A joke?

[odd dock]

pic hugh SLB? 😂 😂 😂

scopely: we want you to spend all your mats
also scopely: heres some keenser shards for spending your mats ...

its basically true, if i worked for scopely it would be true.

[tame terrace]

New incursion = BORING
I think the most fun so far going is blowing up your own servers ship a few hours before so they aren’t out for incursions.

[vagrant ferry]

since incursions are now a money grab to make you buy directives i think i will pass on it going forward not worth my money or time. what a joke

[outer wigeon]

I think the one word that sums up the new incursions: BORING

[left rose]

So boring

[daring dock]

im sitting out our incursion... i usually win the slbs but why bother wasting all that time for nothing

[left rose]

im on the other server, shield hasnt been up all day, ran a bunch of armadas, havent even found any floaters or anyone to pvp

[stark warren]

Ezri still isn’t triggering the initial round that a state is applied

[delicate marlin]

Thought that when in territory the pvp brackets don’t apply…..

So now whales are the only ones that can feed on each other

[gaunt carbon]

Ezri only works if she's not in the State of Georgia. 🤣

[sterile sail]

NEGATIVE ⭐⭐⭐⭐ ⭐ on the new incursions.

This is sooo B O R I N G ! ! ! .

points for finding a way to make anyone under G6 irrelevant in the scoring,

WoW.
just WoW.

Your Idea guy should be put in front of a firing squad.

ALL you had to do to fix incursions was make the Beacon system work in a more timely manner.

Big raid happens,
A galaxy beacon goes off,
Everyone shows up.
Raid get's contested
Battle Royale
Fun is had by ALL
No one person can then throw the score for an entire server.

Easy.

Jebus Creesus.

[ocean barn]

I wish I had a pic hugh SLB, instead we get more shards for an officer I can't tier up (zefram).

[daring dock]

raiding broken any way so that isnt any fun now

they seem to be ignoring it as well

[ebon crystal]

The only positive thing I can think about this "new" and boring incursion is that it only last 12 hours.

[calm berry]

Watching grass grow is more fun at that point 🥱 incursions are putting us to sleep 😴

[quiet gulch]

I dont think Incursions are tracking Player SHip Kills

[dense quarry]

If you can’t fix the lag so that I’m not stuck waiting 30secs for a speed up leaving my ass hanging out to dry. What’s the point of incursions or even playing this sucky ass game

[misty ermine]

This is the most boring incursion ever. I feel zero urge to actually try and win anything and just find it mildly inconvenient, might I respectfully suggest restoring the previous format except auto apply a 24hr shield to all stations when it starts, that way anyone not willing to join in just has to not attack anyone for the duration.

[spare creek]

I’m losing more ships to hazards than armada dmg or opposing ships. Only high ops players can sit waiting for armadas to spawn. As a 65 I’m not going to waste armada starts on low lvl armadas

[plush smelt]

Worst Incursion ever whoever thought it would be a good idea to do it like this should be sacked and never work for a gaming company again

[slate vault]

I look forward to incursions as a free for all pvp opportunity - this incursion is horrendously boring 😴 and we can't even tell what the real time score is so there is no motivation to keep trying. Plus the endless game errors and freezing/crashes every few minutes and not being able to hit players after an armada (just like in arenas last night). Sadly i am glad it is short because 24hrs of this would be awful. Can you please forget about this nonsense and focus on the s76/710 merge ASAP!

[zenith dragon]

I haven't done more than half of it because I don't want to burn up all my material for this, and for this first incursion that I could participate in, I've been really bored.

[torpid jasper]

During this Infinite Armada's (Incurions) i was so bored i wondered outside. It was sunny and i had a great time. I think i mite not bother playing STFC anymore. Thanks for making a Fun and exciting Game event more boring than watching Paint dry. Good job ruining another thing on a game that doesn't run properly most the time.

[copper scroll]

Possibly the worse event to date, by far the most boring and un engaging. I used to love incursions but this is shocking how bad and poor it is. Literally no PvP, couldn’t get any one interested, raiding is pointless as no one defended as no rewards or need. Rewards aren’t worth the time and barely anyone stopped armada so no PvP there either. Easily the best way to kill off incursions well done 😩 💩

[warm kestrel]

Fortunately, my schedule only allows me to participate with incursions during hours 13-24

[wintry raptor]

yeah this Incursion update is super boring

[amber patrol]

Wow. Incursions is a joke. I do not wanna run quick start armadas for 12 hrs

[wraith verge]

This for sure. If I just look at the XSLB of my bracket (40-42) there's already enough PvP to cover 80% of our server's score.
<@&509690795536941056> Can you confirm the PvP "Defeat Opposing Server Ships | 6pt" is not working at all for the server-wide scoring?

[quiet gulch]

Unless I am the only one doing anything...this is wayyy off

[wintry raptor]

You and me are lol

[last axle]

i dont mean to be rude, but this is the dumbest thing you all have done

[stone glade]

And again ... making an Event with serious issues ... but didn't have the guts to call it off and sort out the scoring first. No... they'd rather lose a few more players.

[junior elbow]

So the winning formula is to have the most whales, buying the most G6 mada directives than the other sector and ya win.

[undone aspen]

if the rewards are not worth it, why bother winning

[junior elbow]

Obviously, like thier repairs, they never fully thought it through, but thier consistent!

[median shuttle]

The server 409 as an opponent was very difficult for players with higher Ops from 60+ to find equal opponents.

[stone glade]

🤣 we get an anouncement for next week instead some more information for the current issues

[misty ermine]

I'll suggest a deal here: sort out the game mechanics and restore the original Incursions format with an opt out for people who hate it, and I think I speak for a lot of us when I say you might be forgiven. Maybe.

There is a lot needing fixed first though

In the meantime best start prepping a really impressive comp chest though!

What does everyone want to see in a compensation gift?

[digital flame]

keenser shards!

[left marlin]

<@&509691205798592532> Specially ships need to start counting for the All Out War SMS. So annoying when players are only bringing their GS-31s and Relativities to the open PvP systems 🤦‍♂️

[clear rune]

Can’t wait for the duo wave defence to be completely unplayable thanks to the lag we’re all suffering unless the lag is finally fixed and not getting steadily worse still come the next update, which obviously we all know the lag won’t be fixed at all but looking forward to spending more money on a mythical pass though because $20 passes just aren’t enough anymore………..

[lost phoenix]

<@&509690795536941056> As I have posted in bugs, I cannot attack ships on the opposing server. I cannot join armadas that other people start nor ones that I start myself. The game is badly bugged. I have tried joining armada's cloaked and uncloaked. There is no possible way for me to do incursions events.

[worldly cedar]

The most boring example of bad planing, poor execution, bug ridden, uninspiring twaddle 🥱
The only good thing is last time it failed to run.

[copper shadow]

this is what they want majority of everyone unable to do anything it's the only way their ancient servers can handle the load

[naive folio]

I kind of feel like we're being laughed at... Anybody else feel that way?

[ornate gust]

The correct term is being gaslit

[misty ermine]

Yes

It's as if the original concept was absolute genius, a fantastic game,but the o day to day running was taken over by accountants

[proven sparrow]

what a great event that was !

[steady anchor]

The joyous highs of excitement when you find that whale of a base. The anticipation coursing through you as you wait to see if that 10 minute drops. The rush of getting as many on your server to swarm the raid as quickly as possible before the player returns, hoping no one comes to defend. All gone.

The dread of one of your own whales shields dropping. The frantic scramble to find people to defend, while everyone and anyone tries to find some way to contact the offender. All gone.

Replaced with the most apathetic boring excuse for an event. I haven't shielded yet, it's fine. Forget a ship out? It's fine. Destroy an enemy ship, all the emotional rush of cutting grass. Well done.

[blissful sonnet]

Forge said it better but yes you’ve really killed a good thing with the new incursion set up

[tranquil veldt]

6 points for killing an opposing ship vs 6 points to spend directives+defeat 2 UC armadas is absolutely ridiculous

[tame terrace]

I said the exact same thing as soon as I heard of the changes. I think this is hands down one of Scopely’s WORST ideas yet. And they want to understand why people don’t buy the battle passes as frequently anymore. 🙄🙄🙄 Brain childs like this new incursion format, mixed with never listening to player base, lack of respect for player base by doing poor comp chests and always treating players like they are trying to cheat the company when they try to get their accounts fixed because of some Scopely bug. The most depressing thing of it all was it was so easy to see how BORING these incursions were going to be. Whoever came up with this new format for incursions, please never subject us to another other of their ideas. In WWI they called it “The Great War” or the “The War to End All Wars”. This is: The BAD Idea or “The Worst Idea to End All Worst Ideas”

[surreal warren]

scoring event was working properly: no PVP kills did count for the endresult

[tame terrace]

I don’t know abt you but it isn’t that I want incursions to last 12 hours….it is just this is so boring that I’m happy that you are only subjecting us to this torment for only 12 hours

[strong anchor]

Is this new incursions supposed to be fun? Finding ships to pvp is harder now than it was finding bases to raid

[serene valley]

Glitchy as heck when crossed over rift not showing up starts for armandas not show up have to restart it has many bugs to work out

[unique dome]

Since there are points to possibly be had hitting Klingon Armadas...maybe check those places?

[surreal warren]

a payckeck with 4 digits for playing their flawed game would be nice

[unique dome]

"The joyous highs of excitement when you find that whale of a base"....more like the groans from your server when the top players decide to purposely not shield nor have ships in their base just because they like being jerks.

[strong anchor]

I have. Had one encounter hunting them. The only instance hunting me was a troll from our own server 😂

[surreal warren]

the "good news" are that PVP kills didnt count properly ^^

[obtuse berry]

Well now have finally played the new incursion. I think I have a good emoji to express my opinion on it. 💩

[opaque hawk]

What's funny is, the only change they needed to do was make it score on docked stolen resources instead of getting the points the moment you hit the station. That way defending a base would actually matter.

[glass pewter]

Scoring on the backend was correct. Scopely outright said the client wasn’t displaying properly and maybe a reboot would update. Takes away the whole strategy part of a strategy game when you don’t actually know the score

[crimson galleon]

there was an event for faction credits ….. it disappeared right about the time I would’ve scored in the event

[misty ermine]

Has a single mod acknowledged the vast tide of grievances here?

[delicate marlin]

So what is this crap. I can be hit by a 71 during a takeover but can’t raid a base above my new bracket in territory? Does anyone at scopely work at QA/QC??

[visual lichen]

Did anyone who actually plays this game playtest this new Incursion format? It’s a bloody snipe hunt. BORING!

[surreal warren]

Scoring on the backend was correct. Scopely outright said the client wasn’t displaying properly and maybe a reboot would update.
They lied to us, as always.

Scoring was bugged the whole time

Example needed?

• every PVP kill should add 6 point to total server score
• you can check on stfc.pro how many PVP kills each player from your server made during incursion
• multiply it by 6 and you already have more points than the final result

q.e.d.

[glad epoch]

I found the new change to incursions to be a bit double sided. On the one hand, it was fantastic to fight an incursion that wasn't ruined by large players simply not shielding and throwing the game. On the other, the klingon armadas scoring was completely and utterly pointless. Having to sit for 15 minutes to score the same as what you'd get for killing an unattended miner is nonsensical

[surreal warren]

you forgot to mention the bug that ships during and after armada couldnt get attacked

[prisma gate]

do the pvp kills need to be as an invader?

as it sits, between me and others the amount of kills we have should total more than our current score vs the opposing server, unless its only if youre as an invader

[surreal warren]

it seems currently PVP kills dont count for overall score

[prisma gate]

...wow

and my server is up against a server that has ascended more than mine.

[stark warren]

This new format is incredibly lame. Plus no store updates… I dunno Scope. Who play tests this stuff?

[surreal warren]

proof?

top 10 of our highlevel player PVP kills: 835 kills
multiplicate it with 6 points per kill: 5010 points (upper screenshot)
total points for us after INCURSION: 3486 points (lower screenshot)

[surreal warren]

Who play tests this stuff?

This time EU servers were the beta testers because we started first.

[prisma gate]

no youre spot on, same thing here. me and 1 other member alone should score minimum 1200, were not even at 1k

[surreal warren]

As is said earlier:
Scopely struggles with simple math to verify if things score correctly.

[prisma gate]

unless its updating on the back end and its just a ui thing like they mentioned earlier?

so in reality we dont actually know who is scoring more.

[surreal warren]

This is the FINAL RESULT as shown on stfc.pro too... https://stfc.pro/incursions/20260425108137

The whole statement that its just a "UI thing" was blind guessing by a mod because the devs never check those metrics and have no clue how their game really works.

[stable bronze]

most boring incursion EVER

[upbeat tide]

These times aren’t working for a lot of people either. Do the devs realize how many people work 11a-11p ET?

[upper mango]

I heard some regions wished they were stuck in limbo again instead

[late orchid]

Epic failure of incursions. No one cares for you "new design"

[worldly cedar]

I thought it was bad and boring then I saw the not new and not exciting store 🤢

[tribal dust]

I look forward to incursions every month, but this month has me wondering if I am wasting my time. The scoring is off, I feel like I am wasting directives. The lack of overall participation has greatly reduced PvP interactions. I am glad you tried something new, but I hope you explore other options in the future.

[potent umbra]

Broke as usual. Why expect any thing else after 7 years. Btw. Keep buying

[brazen latch]

This same scoring issue happened last month and users from Europe and Asia posted screenshots that proved their server scores were impossibly low. Individual players should have earned more than the server as a whole did.

Nothing was obviously done in the last month to fix the issue. The scores being displayed are impossibly low. We literally have no idea how to actually score, how a winner is being determined, or if the “correct” server won.

[slate vault]

I would rather have had our promised merge on April 23rd than this version of incursion

[stark warren]

This is wicked bad. Not one person could come up with a better idea? And not one supervisor vetoed this? More and more evidence that they aren’t actually playing this game.

[uncut fable]

new incursion is garbage.. bring back the old way

[copper shadow]

going to the dentist and getting your whole mouth pulled out and dentures put in with no freezing or gas is more fun than new dead boring incursions

[thick temple]

This is a better concept than draining bases as the main event(boring) but it still needs some work for sure. There seems to be a big scoring problem in the main event. I've run 6 epic g6 solos =270 points and about 30 uncommons = 450 points. Our server's total score is just over 2500 points. I'm not responssible for 720/ 2500 points.

This isn't a problem of scores being given to the wrong server or both servers. It is a problem with some sketchy coding that isn't adding numbers correctly.

What's going on?

[steady anchor]

Just the first 10 players on stfc.pro for pvp kills, our server totals 1002 kills. At 6 points per kill, 6012 points. Vs. the 2842 our score currently is. One of these things is not like the other.

[lunar wyvern]

Soooo Scopely has reached the lowest of lows! They won't fix issues, and they will not delete my account when I ask since they will not address my concerns. Now they just close chats without any response!!! Great customer service!!

[vocal willow]

I just did 8 epic solos and 12 rare solos = 600 points…we got 56 points…me thinks it is broken

[cinder helm]

My alliance just did several epic group armadas and the score didn’t update at all

[stable bronze]

you need 325 bells for the MACO Bellhopper -SMS.. how many people do you think actually have that many or can get that many if they call q-trials?
this is really terrible the points should be 1000 at most (like the trails event on Tuesdays)

[marsh fjord]

I liked it. Past tense. Liked!

But complaining will get you a 3 day chat ban in here. Some folks just struggle with the idea of a mouthy woman.

[thorny wedge]

Incursions without station raiding is super lame. Bring it back and sigma raiding.

[hollow yarrow]

I was not a fan of incursions to begin with. Even worse now!!!!

[frosty sandal]

This scoring issue happened last time, I’m flabbergasted this was run again without it being fixed. It’s extremely discouraging trying to help your server, not knowing if your efforts are even working, or if you’re truly winning or losing.

[dusky mortar]

I literally just gave up and went to watch a movie instead.

[final stream]

Was it a good movie?

[west trout]

scopley math, it prob off of base not surface numbers LOL

[cinder helm]

The only good thing about this incursion is that it’s only 12 hours long. Imagine another 12 hours of this torture.

[dusky mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/a-clockwork-orange-stop-it-stop-it-please-i-beg-you-alex-delarge-stop-it-make-it-stop-gif-27621083

scopely applying the newest patch

[brave zephyr]

This is the most boring blase incursions there has been. When incursions first came out I hated it as a hardcore anti-pvper back then.but I came to love incursions. What you've done to it is just bad. It makes it a nothing event with good prizes. But, it's not fun. It is just boring.

[dusky mortar]

good prizes?

[brave zephyr]

Depends on how you look at them, could be worse.

[keen egret]

It's just lag. You'll see those points around Christmas. Well, actually you won't because of a visual glitch...

And the incursion being over. Unless you get stuck between servers....

Or you quite because lag will make the splash screen take 2 days before you can get into the game...

If they haven't shut down the servers.

[round hare]

anyone else having scoring issues with madas?

[grim notch]

everyone

[round hare]

well the other server is scoring but i am not

[stable bronze]

the scoring is totally broken.. also the score scoply say is correct on the back-end, i doubt it

im glad this incursion is only 12 hours cause it is totally 💩

[earnest condor]

One of my alliance mates renamed the Incursion to Toddlercursion. It's the baby version of a combat game. Seriously - This is the lamest Incursion I have ever done.

Honestly Scopely, this is a combat game - if people don't want to be hit during incursion they can put up a shield and keep it there.

Put incursion back the way it was. This one was Lame!

[wheat walrus]

2 words to describe the new incursion format...... BORING and BROKEN!

[wanton anvil]

Please return base raiding to incursions- change the scoring to docked materials. This would encourage and reward defending a base.
This new version of incursions is extremely boring - as many others have stated.

[dense quarry]

Well thats 12hrs of my life Ill never get back.

[dusky mortar]

The old incursion was bs too. They need to add points for mining to get players motivated to leave their base at all or I just skip the entire day with a shield.

[fathom walrus]

S9vs12 scores are stuck at 2445 v 2323 for the last 10 minutes.

[next vortex]

Reinstalled game to play incursions. Participation was low. The changes suck. Unlock sigma % raiding and bring back the old scoring along with an update to the rewards table

[slow ermine]

didnt think incursions could get worse.. well that was proven wrong

[limber stream]

Our long international nightmare is over.

[green geode]

@limber stream explain

[limber stream]

Incursions just ended…exactly 2 minutes ago

[green geode]

USA one

[limber stream]

Then I’m sorry for your loss. 😔

[green geode]

Did it even get started, most just bubbled up. Or just carried on mining , was so so boring

Nope I'm UK server ours finished 8 hours ago

[late orchid]

Most boring incursion ever... what was thr point of that?

[red remnant]

You didn’t like let’s run armadas for incursions

[sacred scarab]

that was dull as hell, can we swap back now?

[green geode]

I kept getting messages complaining I was breaking roe. Going report me to my Admiral

[woven fog]

this was a HORRIBLE idea to make it 12 hours. people work and such, i JUST got home with about 5m to spare and not be able to do anything

[sacred scarab]

tbf it was hard to tell there was an incursion going on unless you live in a klingon armada system

[little hazel]

Good job ruining one of the main things I enjoyed lol

[green geode]

If you had any Amarda starts left

[red remnant]

I think the janitor mixed up the two ideas boxes, one of good ideas and one of things never to try

[sacred scarab]

it's especially dumb because in the first year or two of the game they'd try server-wide PVP events and they just resulted in everyone turtling up or win trading. I don't know what they expected

[green geode]

Solos for only G-6 very biased

People complaining about being emptied

[limber stream]

I get those too. No one reads their in-games messages. Lazy people. At least skim it.

[green geode]

Humm then shield up and move to lower system

Nah went back and hit there base again

[limber stream]

They ruined it? It was bad before too. Btw you could still raid. There was a solo leaderboard for raiding.

[sacred scarab]

I appreciated that people who can't be bothered with shield discipline didn't cost us the entire thing, but there HAS to be a better way to do this

[tribal dust]

View from the Bridge
Bottom Line Upfront-the scoring issues put into question the integrity of the entire event. We could see in real time that points were not scoring. We were told it was scoring on the server side but not showing on player UI but those points never showed up. Players quit participating as they felt they were wasting resources with nothing to show for it.

1. Players liked the scoring, specifically making PvP kills have value. Players felt the point system for armadas was okay, but had a hard time fully understanding the armada scoring because of the scoring issues
2. A lot of players missed the emphasis on raiding. The SLB was fine, but players missed the intensity of battles typically found around raids.
3. Too many PvE events during incursions. It didn’t encourage PvE players to come out, they waited until the end of incursions. Players that participated in incursions were overwhelmed by the additional events.
4. While 12 hours was long enough for this particular style of incursions, PvP players want a longer event that keeps players engaged.
5. Armadas did not draw out the PvP players as anticipated. Most armadas we ran were uncontested. Actual PvP opportunities were limited.
6. The galaxy is still too “big”. While focusing the event on Klingon armadas reduced the focus area, it was still too large of an area to effectively force player interactions, and what interactions there were typically involved one high level player smashing lower level players.
   Whatever the future holds, the most important aspect is players feeling that incursions is fair, balanced, and worth the effort and money they put into it. The integrity of the score should never come into question.

TaskForceScorpio
DMG / Server 53

[green geode]

Incursion rewards are rubbish. I take part for the medal 🏅🥇🥇 .
Lol nope for the RSS

[sacred scarab]

yeah no one once tried to stop me from running armadas. the only thing that slowed it down was respawn times and fighting over them with my own server

[woven fog]

12 hours was NOT long enough for people that work long days and cannot play the game during work hours

[green geode]

@tribal dust Incursion should be just that no holds barred, fight it out raiding , mining, looting rct

[ancient vault]

Incursion or Arenas 2.0 whatever you want to call them was an absolute disaster. Boring, lifeless and a waste of time and armada directives for rubbish outdated rewards. I hope a rethinking of this format is in the works

[limber stream]

Big players punching down on little players will always happen with the PvP bands the way they are. Scopely made it worse by severely adjusting everyone’s bands except the 60s and 70s. They received the smallest changes.

[green geode]

But so many Amarda events before Incursion

I'm LvL 60 and can't target 50 and lower

[timid steppe]

Any word on the 710 76 merge

[green geode]

But I can be targeted by a 72

Yep better@timid steppe going be server 786

Some servers with there rules , one server was so narcissistic it was worrying

[woven kettle]

This incursion felt like a step in the right direction to remove base raiding. Not having a person or two throw the entire thing, seeing more in-server encouragement (at minimum, less flaming and blaming going around). Maybe better said, you had to fight together to win in this style, as opposed to fight amongst each other to not lose. So, aside from scoring issues and other hiccups that seem ever present, the direction of this incursion felt like progress

[quasi rose]

I completely disagree

[icy mural]

There was no fighting. You couldn’t attack anyone. They could recall. Without the option to attack.

[quasi rose]

This incursion was horrible

[grim notch]

it was a dumpster fire, it was terrible

I would have rather been waterboarded

[deep hedge]

Incursion was fun before. Now it's not. This game has been great until these last few months. Bout ready to head into the sunset.

[quasi rose]

There was no "fighting together" we were competing against each other for the armadas more then we were competing against the other server. There was NO fighting against the other server really. I can see reducing the scoring for raiding and including scoring for armadas and even mining on the other server but it should be specialty armadas as well as FKR armadas and open it up. That way people that don't like pvp have a way to score but don't take away what the rest of us like. In past incursions I have seen dire enemies work together to find and raid targets as a group... now we were fighting over armadas... that's not an "incursion" that's just ... yaaaaawn

[clever rampart]

There was zero intensity from raids. I was caught twice draining bases and they didn't even do anything about it. Why would they, considering it had no effect on whether their server would win or lose. This incursion sucked from many perspectives.

[grim notch]

You were prob doing half of them a favor if anything

[woven kettle]

And mind-numbing base raiding is even less of a yawn? 😅 That was the single specific piece I highlighted as improvement. For the rest, sure, your mileage may vary, have your opinion, offer suggestions. I appreciate that you acknowledge giving a PVE method to engage and participate, which I did enjoy. But that's where scopely needs to continue reiterating. Never did nor will claim they got it perfect this time. But step in a better direction (by removing base raiding from server score)? I think so.

[grim notch]

This was the first time in like 4 years our server made no attempt to prep for incursions in anyway

[abstract geyser]

Incursion : Firstly stop making changes to the game that nobody wants. Secondly you ruined a perfectly good event for no reason at all. Thirdly we realized early our points were wrong and start noticing when we all became extremely active that it appeared that our points were going to the other server. And lastly the event results are completely wrong and you know it so fix it and make good on your mistake

[quasi rose]

At least base raiding provided competition between the 2 servers... and while yes I acknowledge a PVE method to score... it's an INCURSION... Server vs Server.... no matter how you look at it that's PvP or it's basically just running a RXLB only with 2 servers instead of an entire region. Incursions was DIFFERENT from that which is what we liked about it and it was the ONE event for PvP that didn't cause internal issues. There are MANY people that dislike PvP on our own server (because they don't like hitting former friends etc) but that embraced hitting "strangers" from another server.

[quasi rose]

It calls ALL scoring on EVERY event into question because we can't trust any results they put out anymore because they are SO wrong SO much of the time...

[sterile sail]

I'll say it again. this Perversion of Incursion was.

🅱️ ⭕ 🇷 🇮 🆖

#RestoreINCURSIONS

ALL you had to do to fix incursions :

make the Beacon system work in a more timely manner.

Big raid happens,
A galaxy beacon goes off,
Everyone shows up.
Raid get's contested
Battle Royale
Fun is had by ALL
No one person can then "throw" the score for an entire server.

Easy.

Why do you not get this?

[warm kestrel]

I missed it. What happened?

[grim notch]

https://klipy.com/gifs/burning-house-the-witcher--k01KQ401Z4MCX9CHCSTK5SYAHVV

[frozen valve]

U know a simpler solution would have been to have sigma rss raidable alongwith.. Then lets see which big guy throws.. Its simply right now someone can throw because they are sitting on quadrillions of parsteel which could easily outlast the incursion window

[sand geyser]

I would play a lot more if I could raid sigma.

[fading veldt]

okay am i reading this wrong? an out post wave is 2 attacking enemy ships = 10pts +2pts for distroying the enemy points = 12pts for each wave? (for lowest scoring) so why do i only have 32pts when i completed all the waves?

[amber grove]

Just return the old Incursion, these new incursions are so boring. People don't even bother protecting nor there any to raid.

I don't understand what the person who thought this changes would be good thinking at that time, removing base raiding from the server points are literally removing the essence of Incursion, it's also more lag and bug than the old one😞

If you unable to think of good idea, don't make game worse, people wouldn't even buy packs with this new Incursion, people are literally not participating

[errant wind]

Ghost town

Can’t even log in ATM

[misty ermine]

Well, there we have it, the lone voice.

[umbral ravine]

<@&509690795536941056> again incursion is a debacle. Armada spawn rates are ridiculous considering you make armadas the main theme. Armadas not starting properly or at all, I have been unable to return to my home system since the start. I still have a miner stuck in the veil, 2 out of 3 returned. Absolute cluster!

[celest silo]

Scopely say jump, you say.. how high? why anyone even bothered with this slop is mind blowing.

[manic crest]

As someone who gave this version of incursions a chance because thats what everyone said "give it a chance ". I did and scored top 5 in most the slbs that came with incursions but man it was so boring. One of the worst for getting pvp to actually happen, please come up with something better if you have to change my favorite event from what it was.

[fading crag]

That's traitorous and they would be server Traitors, which has no rehabilitation like Rogue does.

[umbral ravine]

Or you can just sit back and not help your alliance which sounds like your style of play. Good luck with that

[void solstice]

hi all, are Maverick Research Dust and Meverick Periphy Intel the same ?

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-tng-pakleds-smart-geordi-gif-16096922

Stfc devs ^^^^

So let me get this straight. They changed a perfectly good event to turn it into a money grab. They wanted you to buy directives and speedup packs and engage in klingon armadas. Then they weren't smart enough to increase the spawn rate of klingon armadas? Do they need directions on how to pick their noses too?

All they did was take an exciting event where participation was higher and made it way less interesting, which drove down participation.

https://tenor.com/view/rick-james-greed-greed-is-a-hell-of-a-drug-gif-12641463219521950907

[gentle peak]

Well incursions is now trash, took my favorite event and made it mind numbingly boring. Without raiding there is no point. Now it's just who can run more armadas. Our incursion had practically no pvp. No engagement, no planning or strategy. Base raiding needs a revamp so there is some actual value in a raid as it was before sigma came out. It needs put back in incursions with better scoring adjustments. This hot garbage that we have now is ruining the game and giving more players a reason not to waste their money here.

[lean cargo]

perfectly good event
Very few people before these last two runs were saying that. A lot of people wanted to 'retire the dead event'.

Sometimes you don't know what you've got until it's gone 😆
... or been 'rebalanced for meaningful gameplay based on player feedback' by scopely.

[marsh fjord]

Player feedback? You think they'll listen to that?

We've only been asking them to fix lag for...well...it's been 84 years

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-forever-waiting-for-you-it's-been-84-years-meme-gif-3221316472416716605

[odd dock]

ive been asking for a Mantis Comp, it too has taken 84 years ...

[spark radish]

Another problem with Incursion is perverse incentives. While the raiding scoring is incredibly boring it works fairly consistently between server and individual interests, unless someone really hates their server and wants them to lose.

The 6 points per ship killed for the server is completely anti-synergistic with both the SMS (which most people do just by piling cheap ships up for someone with the 'correct' ship to kill) and the individual combat XSLBS, which tend to encourage trying to kill everything you can see, (and the damage one can heavily reward attacking something you'll lose to, as long as you get a good whack of hull damage on it in the process).

[placid basalt]

Why are you introducing a new version of waves while the current ones are still extremely bugged? It took 2-3 tries to target each hostile today in group waves. The Kir’Shara is also still dropping hostiles during waves

[copper shadow]

because if they bring out something new 3% of the whole community will spend 1k or more in the first few days even though everything they release is 99% broken. Scopley has hacked the brain of some players and made fomo so addicting that people can't help it even though they know better.

[small rover]

Incursions with Armada focus, then today gets a MACO event for even more Armadas.....

https://tenor.com/bGdpd.gif

Legit, I spent all my speedups on incursions, c'mon....

[zinc wing]

Was the new Incursions designed to prevent attacking players who "joined" an armada even while they waited for it to start (as was my experience on several occasions yesterday, which included a pop-up stating I could not attack them while they were in an armada)? If so...WTF...was the point??

[molten marlin]

that was most likely lag because on pc you could still attack them with spacebar

[stable bronze]

i feel ya, and incursion was soo broken that the directives spent was a total waste too

[worldly grove]

Overall i liked the new Incursion, def more participation Alliance wide, it will take a while for people to adjust, but i think its much better than the old.
2 outstanding issues though, need to increase Cloak currency and Armada currency below 61.

[potent umbra]

It’s all
About what will cause whales to spend. I spent way too much on this game in 7 years. Finally said enough 🤷🤦‍♂️

[tame terrace]

New incursions to be renamed: Battle of The Deep Pockets

It show u how great our participation was in the lower ops. I ran three armadas- 2 uncommon and 1 rare. Took first place in XSLB 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[old pollen]

i put in a ticket yesterday for missing retaliation plunder from outposts 2x success 2 nights the ticket auto closes as they know of the problem . is anyone getting their retaliation rewards or we just getting s c rewed

[tame terrace]

I will say this though…..Don’t get rid of the armada scoring….Just putting the Alliance raiding scoring back in. There is something to be said for the hunting for that one sweet fat base whose shield fails and constantly being on guard in case your own server has a shield fail

[misty ermine]

I didn't do ANYTHING and placed on several SLB, so engagement was... Sub optimal.

Scopes currently wondering how they managed to lose money on an incursion event

[small rover]

Love this MACO event, 75 UC FKR armadas to start, or 15 Rares, or 4 Epics to complete the milestones.... A day after Incursions also needed armadas to score in it. Just.... Blah, lol.

[tame terrace]

Yeah I took a nap for most of it. Then chatted in AC for the rest of it. I only ran the armadas to be sure to get rewards for participating…..wasn’t expecting 1st place🤣🤣🤣

[misty ermine]

The sheer dopamine rush of high stakes station raiding can lead to impulse purchases, which will have been absent this time, I doubt the armada directives filled in

[small rover]

Blew all my speedups on Incursions mada madness, lol.

[misty ermine]

Since the scoring was goosed you should get everything back imo

[tame terrace]

THAT’S what they are hoping for…..they are hoping to blow through people’s stashes by doing this once a month so people will buy more…..Problem is, they are going to loose a lot of people with this model

[fervent void]

<@&509690795536941056> Not that it will be read or considered, the new incursions format, was more like a normal event vs any kind of server vs server war. Thumb wrestling has more side vs side, war like atributes then "who can do the most armadas." As creativity and coding are 2 things lacking, can we suggest a king of the hill style event. Eventa over a few days before that determines a leader who gets to invade other server to attempt to take a faction homeworld, while other server defends. this will force pvp, give a sense of war and provide actual goals for both servers.

[sweet valve]

I have to triple check the KirShara when doing solo waves. Damn thing fails so often it’s just safer to manually go one by one

[placid basalt]

Yeah, but it is both solo and group waves. I wasn’t just having trouble with the queue, I had my ship just sitting there and I would go to hit a hostile and it told me I couldn’t target it repeatedly

[warped grove]

Annnnd I am still missing 700 points from the MACO Honors SMS. Super frustrating.

[surreal warren]

lower OPS had no reason to participate
this is (again) an event only made for < 3% of the whole playerbase

[boreal coyote]

Need to add raiding back to incursion points, greatly reduced points, but still there. Also great to know g4 / g5 economy is greatly reduced compared to g6 plus economy for armada starts ( 4 times lower, about what you think of us as players despite the fact there are many more of us. ) ( side note: outposts, new borg solos and now new waves are essentially all 60+ content- thanks a bunch, very engaging) On this note, I salute the flat even PvP points. Funny as a 50+ player I still however have the same PvP location as 60, and 70s. Proof fairness is never in your equations. This was probably the most boring incursion I’ve been apart of. I only needed to PvP for 30 min to get 3rd and run a tiny part on armadas to get 4th. When are you going to realize death by many cuts is too much for your average customer?

[wheat walrus]

Less grind Connor said........ better quality of life Connor said........ all events recently grind grind grind......... quilty of life "improvements" (eg KirShara) are so glitched as to make things worse...... Incursions needing alliance coop - chat would not work...... Scopley want us to encourage players back, yet the reasons they left are actually worse!

[warm kestrel]

with incursions being 8a-8p on a saturday I didn't get to participate. And it just now occurred to me that I forgot to check and see if we won or not. fair to say, the new format is less engaging

[upper mango]

You can’t believe everything genAI says

[ocean crypt]

would like to know how you expect all that can , to do the lv 66 outpost hold events , when there are not enough sites and outposts to go around, should have had the foresight to have added more than 1 normal and 1 elite lv 66 per faction, you keep pushing players to increase ops sizes, but you don't cater for the growth in events, total hypocrites

[copper shadow]

with the new changes they did everyone got the winners reward there was no losers so thats a good thing just not sure if I want it to be ran again if its an everyone wins gonna happen each time

[coarse iris]

Was it epic? Second part missing considerable amount retaliation plunder?

Did you used picard loot crew?

[flint pebble]

MACO Artificer - SMS is doing the same thing as last month. SMS says the same description as the SLB (restore and upgrade) but the SMS actual points are to spend artifact tokens. Not posting new pics because same as this one:

#🏆-event-chat message

[sterile yew]

Anyone else have issues with outposts today? My 3 have been stuck for hours. Just found out and put in a ticket but while my 3 ships are tied up it makes doing dailies hard with the ships and officers all tied up.

[molten marlin]

if it's frozen, you need to pull your ships

[sterile yew]

So im out directives, rewards, and time?

[coarse iris]

Support should solve this issue

[molten marlin]

support will return the directives, but not any missed rewards

[sterile yew]

There is an event going on so I have missed out on that and the hours of waiting. why run events when the outposts are broken. idk why I play this game still.

I spend a lot of resources on the buffs for the outpost

[coarse iris]

Not sure but buffs upgrades are useless now, next time don't use them

[sterile yew]

They make a difference for me. not sure why they don't for you

[molten marlin]

what he means is that currently the iso damage upgrade on borg outposts is busted

iso defense*

[sterile yew]

of course everything is broken.

[tame terrace]

You didn’t miss anything 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[grim notch]

I think a shorter list to write would be of what currently works

[upper mango]

Can we get a refund of our outpost rss and sigma rss wasted on this buff for the past week or two?

[pastel swan]

<@&509690795536941056> Will we ever get the real scores of this incursion and figure out who really won?

Supposedly our server score was
2.817 vs 3.133
I did a quick check, alone with my PvP score, the G6 solos I did (not counting all the group armadas) - I should have scored 1.878 points by myself!

So, were is the real score?

or do you expect players to believe that only 2 players participated or just go on

Yeah, trust us 🤪 👍 The scoring in Backend worked fine, you really lost/won

So please release the backend score than!

[odd dock]

check the w.t.f or pro website. the only thing that is certain is that scopely like talking out of their backend (server), maybe also playtest out of their backend (server), and definitely set all the event milestones from their backend (server)

[spare creek]

I’ve tried - they said no in the past

[honest basalt]

Scopley should run the special operations event for an extra day

[viscid phoenix]

Well of course, it’s not their fault that their broken content is broken /s

[lime solar]

The problem with gauging player participation and events from closed bata servers is that everyone in beta is there specifically to play test the new features, events and content. As such, participation will always be higher in closed beta, and even open beta. Now, I believe Scopely has formulas they use to calculate live server equivalence, and know everything I've said even better than I do. However, the last incursion felt like a flop from my experience. Player participation felt very low, and there was very little excitement. Once all my speedups were gone, it just felt very boring waiting for the 15-minute timer to expire. It also felt boring having to fly around Klingon space looking for opponents who were running armadas. Again, after flying into empty system after empty system, I quit and went to do other RL stuff. In the evening I came back to see if action had picked up. No, not much...

I appreciate that Scopely is trying new things to bring more balance to incursions. We just experienced an attempt. Thank you for trying. Now we probably need to try something else. Perhaps it would generate more excitement and participation if we did the Monday mining event for an incursion. Scoring would be based on PvP and materials docked. To help narrow the expanse and focus the player base to fewer overall systems, make it a latinum only event for materials docked. Regular latinum would need to score more points than concentrated latinum to balance for the difference in mining rates. Points would also be available for latinum captured.

Just some thoughts on trying to help incursions be more interesting to participate in again. Feel free to comment.

[mortal tartan]

Imagine my surprise at back to back not-CotA events. You guys are getting real desperate for fast cash, hey?

[stark warren]

Chronicle of Justin is back!!! Never ending CoJ!

[plucky cove]

The iso damage upgrade is not working for Borg outposts? This is not listed in the known issues

[brittle iron]

Where on earth has the "Diplomatic Climb" event gone??

[molten marlin]

in the faction hunt bucket

[brittle iron]

THX

[warped grove]

would love some clarification on what actually scores for this meta, because it certainly isn't "any" assessment milestone

[stable bronze]

i was told by support its when you complete it that you get the points it's not the actualy milestones.. i figured out tier 4 is 100 points and tier 5 is when you get the extra 200

Note: unless you completed all sms you cant get the last tier in honors

I just got to 35 the other day.. i have to kill WAY too many swarms to finish this.. i can only reach the 37s

[warped grove]

brilliant. confusing enough that they changed the order of events without actually renumbering them, but they changed the scoring without updating that either. cool cool cool.

[stable bronze]

support said they would send it to the proper team to word it properly or whatever.. but i doubt it.. they didnt fix the rlb that was supposed to be an slb on the first day (was the same during the last maco event)

[warped grove]

at least they fixed the artifact sms/slb to have the correct wording 🙄 i was so mad last time when it was just "oh lol we meant spend artifact tokens the whole time even though we said restore artifacts"

[austere bay]

<@&509690795536941056> do we have this garbage non stop now?

[cold junco]

Please please please do away with the JOIN BUTTON FOR FACTION HUNT 😡

[viral minnow]

Scopely are Criminals!!

A Game is supposed to be enjoyable, and SMS are supposed to be achievable heroic or not for F2P player who plan accordingly.

Introducing a 5 days heavy event that is already hard to achieve like FCI without any announcement to plan for it was a below the belt move.

But Bringing it for another run back-2-back is beyond logical. It is criminal! It is hurting players, causing stress and giving many of us reason to quit or at least stop spending the 20$ that we believed to be fair to support any game…

Scopely claims QoL features introduction but clearly they have in mind hurting F2P players, pushing low spenders to quit and forcing the hand of heavy spenders to spend more.

If that is not a Cyber Crime what is?

[deft cargo]

pre-last -100 points, last- 200 points, 1st-2nd - nothing

[deft cargo]

its not about stfc since beginning, milestone goals are sometimes ridiculous and not balanced to current level possiblities

[warped grove]

ugh. sure would be nice if they'd decided to update the scoring description to actually say that instead of "any".

[alpine niche]

Yeah...docked Rare Transogen...no points, nada, nyet, nein, zip, zippo, the big nothing!

[deft cargo]

well, when i see Archer on picture and Picard-E in rewards im not surprised 😉

[warped grove]

and then there was how they shuffled the order of events but didn't update the descriptions, so day one started with 13, 14, 15 🙄

(or maybe it was 10, 11, 12... either way out of order for whatever reason )

[vernal breach]

This was my thought too until I hit 71 and don't want the third faction anymore.

[brave wigeon]

Just need to accept incursions are a failure and end them.

[amber grove]

Or... just bring back base raiding to get server point, that's literally the one thing that made people PvP on Incursion

[prisma tusk]

Mavericks tasks finished 2 hours early?

[shadow yew]

why oh why such timing inconsistency on the maverick tasks...

[urban hatch]

they probably changed the order to make sure there was an Armada event both before and after incursions.

But I can't believe they are doing it AGAIN, making the last round of SLBs not count towards the Meta by having the Meta end at the same time.

[late orchid]

Um why did the alliance transogen event disappear almost an hour+ before rest of the task resets? 🤦‍♂️

And where did my solo task go? How hard is it to align all tasks to start/end at the same freaking time? I want my compensation that I hadn't collected but finished since I was doing other grind...

[vale frost]

Have maverick tasks always reset before the timer ran out?

One of the tasks I spent tokens on has disappeared before the task timer has run out

[molten marlin]

been a thing for a while

[vale frost]

Why? What the heck is the timer for then?

Seems like something that should have been fixed a while ago

[plucky cove]

If this is a known issue … then idk maybe you should add it to the known issues list

[urban hatch]

Or maybe they could fix it so that you don't have to collect the SLB in order for it to score in the Meta? Just saying ...

[plucky cove]

Thanks for adding that to the list! Helps me keep my alliance informed

[shut geode]

🤗More variety in the assignments is desirable and more than welcome. Right now, every week is practically copy and paste. Not interesting at all. 😵‍💫

[quick pebble]

It really sucks on how they are limiting the re-roll tokens in AT tasks..I bet there will be packs for these doodads. Anyway AT is slowly gonna get irrelevant except to those who like to spend.

[teal olive]

In the future, could you extend the MACO XSL event timer by an extra day, so that it counts the SLBs from the previous day. Currently, today's SLBs and the XSLB will end at the same time, so any progress on the SLB today will not count for anything.

[misty ermine]

So what was the final verdict on Incursions, did anybody from the Company say anything?! (You guys are slowly becoming Weyland-Yutani, except less competent, hence the Company being what I will be calling Scopely from hereon)

[agile latch]

Success

[misty ermine]

Q-pla? Hmm, I don't concur.

[smoky rose]

Here's an idea that might be a little too intelligent for you Scopely - if an event isn't live yet, don't present it in the UI.
To spell it out more clearly, the "Daily Login/Engage" button shouldn't appear until it's actually working - not 16 hours before it's live.

[jaunty hornet]

Fix the glitches

[hollow lichen]

That entire button shouldn't appear at all wasting space, we already have daily login events/points so find a space to put it there. or put the rewards in battlepass steps or something. Now you're just adding junk for the sake of adding junk and lag in the game....

[subtle dew]

Scopley should do an event where you explain and reward people for reporting glitches and issues. Then scopley would post the 10 most reported glitches. Fix them and run the event next month. I would hope this game would be fixed in only a few implementations of the event.

[sturdy crown]

@molten marlin @near saddle Will the SMS/SLB points get transferred to the RLB as they all finish at the same time?

[warped solstice]

How does the engage event work

[idle parcel]

They have shown with this latest release, more than with any other one, how much they truly hate us as players. This latest release was given to us with several middle fingers.

I've wanted to stick around to watch the killing of this game, which can't be far behind, but this latest release makes me not want to even login.

[ornate grove]

normal peak content/interest in a phone game average is 5-7 years before its placed in maintenance mode permanently. That is due to staff turnover,irreparably broken code strings/pointers and lack of creative ideas..right on schedule for a typical phone game.

[ashen notch]

I've logged in, I've done dailys, and I've claimed my daily milestones, yet the daily login reward for today has yet to become available.

[woven tulip]

log on every day, collect the reward. (The first day is tomorrow not today) @ashen notch

[potent charm]

No more choice rewards one of the best things introduced now they remove it

[ashen notch]

Didn't you know that removing player choice and progression is the best way to make money? Nevermind it makes more people quit than it it makes open their wallets.

[sturdy crown]

Alliance Tournaments have been designated Pay to Compete. They don't want to give away the meagre rewards to anyone who doesn't pay for them.

[idle parcel]

This pretty much seals it for me. Looks like I'll at least archive my account soon, at the very least. I can't play a game where the middle finger is given to players, due to their unmitigated and unchecked greed.

[idle parcel]

That was the thing I was looking forward to this month. 🙄😡

[ashen notch]

Hopefully no one buys the pass now. Because that's the only way they're going to learn players wont accept changes like this.

[idle parcel]

I haven't bought one in years, and I sure as *#$& won't buy one now. All this is doing is sealing my decision to end my account.

[pure skiff]

The free track on the battle pass is insulting - no officer shards and nothing for the new building, absolutely trash - and setting the desealing rods we would normally get from officer flash pass behind a paywall, taking the absolute p*ss

[ashen notch]

Last month was the first one I didn't buy. The changes made make it a for sure I won't be buying this one either.

[mellow fjord]

Nice one. paywalling 50% of the Broken Rods we got for free monthly.

[elder sleet]

Not paying a dime

[ashen notch]

So let me get something else straight. Officer depot tokens are going away, yet we're still getting them as a reward in the login calendar?

[grim notch]

I used to, but not anymore

[mellow fjord]

Not going away. The pick what you want goes away and instead we get a Ultra/Galactic Recruit Bundle for Depot Tokens

[agile latch]

It's not. Read first... Not going away, just new way to use them 🙄

[ashen notch]

OK, to be fair, between the free path and the final day of the login calendar, you still get the same amount for free... of course this is assuming you can log in every day.

[agile latch]

No you won't because there won't be flash pass, so we are missing 360.

[mellow fjord]

No we got 720 per month with FlashPass

[ashen notch]

I was told they're going away and they we have 30 days to spend what we have. That's not correct?

[pure skiff]

no, you don't frenzy, 720 rougly per month from bps, now only 360 from bps for free if including the 90 and then the 270 from login clanedar rubbish they have done

[mellow fjord]

The pick which officer you want goes away store goes away

[sturdy crown]

The Rods were in the Overflow, not the actual BP rewards.

[elder sleet]

Yeah instead of 3 months to unlock the treasury for free… now it be 6 months.

[mellow fjord]

Yes. 360 in BP Overflow and 360 in Flash Pass Overflow.

Now 270 in Daily Login and 90 in Free BP. Thats a 50% reduction since the other 360 are paywalled. They moved the Location where we get it and paywalled 50% of them.

[ashen notch]

I wasn't considering the flash pass in my comment. Makes more sense what you're saying now thay you point that out... unless they're still going to run flash pass as usual.

[mellow fjord]

Flash pass is dead

[ruby hornet]

This game is DEAD ☠️

[agile latch]

And that's an 50% reduction in player count.

[ocean crypt]

new arc, new mess-ups, wheres the build part gift to start the build, events started ages ago, and which smart alec with 1 brain cell decided to revert choice rewards back to resources, now got no choice in what we need with tokens but instead back to the 3 different types every 2 days, and even more cash scams with yet another level to battlepass for yet even more cash, as if £20/£100 were not enough, now a mythic for £50 and free pass no longer gets a snifter at any recruit shards, what a rip-off theft against the free members

[bitter basalt]

@full swan @near saddle removing Choice Tokens is a big Frak You to players, glad i havent spend a cent on this game since September

[ruby hornet]

I don’t have the new BP, got the Academy menu 🤢 with Multiphasic rubbish in it but nothing else … which in retrospect is GREAT news 😝

Now if I could only remove all mention of the travesty thats Star Fleet Academy 🤮 I’ll be a happy man 😂!

[odd dock]

<@&509690795536941056> so now we see the new BP system, tell me, hows this replace the ferengi bp? it doesnt does it ... so lets start with telling everyone the truth:

the new BP track has LESS than the previous format.

[novel verge]

Players: “there’s too much grinding and no fixing of old content”

Scopely: “here’s MORE grinding and more buggy new content”

[wraith wasp]

<@&509690795536941056> why are Scopley trying to kill this game? Would it not be easier to switch it off over keep creating bad PR? This behaviour will put players of playing their future games.

[ruby hornet]

It seems very odd that they would destroy their own reputation, boggles the mind 😵

[polar isle]

WHY are we going back from: Chose if you want to take: Gas, Xtrl oder Ore to: TAKE WHAT YOU GET ....

[hexed hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-stewart-eat-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-12567454887078541885

[tawny falcon]

it was never really a choice anyways (at least for me) I got twice as much crystal as anything else. It made the most sense to take 100% crystal and the sigma trit then convert the crystal to gas or ore using the bonus tokens.

[jaunty nacelle]

to put it simple... It's a calculated choke point to try to force more purchases

[slow ermine]

So i guess Scopely never fixed the MACO overall event to count the last 3 SLB rankings

[hexed hawk]

Starfleet academy was horrible and we all know scopelys arcs are usually worse then the content they base them on, at least they are starting low. I’d say it couldn’t get worse, but I expect scopely to find a way

[sturdy crown]

.... And as expected the SLBs did not score, a 2nd, 3rd & 4th and no extra score. Scopely you really do sukk. 💩

[hazy shore]

You guys trolling right? 3 latinum twice from the scrap donation? is this a joke?

[ornate grove]

@hexed hawk It's probably not even going to air for S2. I suggest they make DS9 all 4K UHD and run that for a few years.

[hazy shore]

and yes SLB did not score at all so impossible to reach cap

[slow ermine]

Same thing the last time they ran MACO events. the last day of SLBs did not score

[obsidian ether]

Omg.. nice F2P Battlepass nerf.. You don't like f2p players ? No problem, we can leave

[sturdy crown]

Complained then too, they didn't even acknowledge it let alone rectify the problem. Wasted hours grinding stuff for no progression.

[lean thorn]

10 latinum reward for the 27th day login truly is so much better than the measly 10 latinum rewarded for 1 day login, Scopely maths at its best 👌 (in total for the 6 milestones of this task chain you will receive a mind shattering 60 latinum! 😂)

[late orchid]

Your mythic track is a complete laughable giant rip off. Im gonna pay 1.5 times the elite pass to get maybe half to 2/3 of the loot? Go back to the drawing board.

[warm scaffold]

The last day of SLBs did not score for MACO RLB

[ruby hornet]

I know this has been said already : BattlePass is just like the old one before we got Choice Tokens.

I hated that version. It dictates your game and your rewards. Pumping you up with predictable materials and resources. Treating us all the same. Boring.

[covert wadi]

Why get rid of choice rewards. What is the point

[ruby hornet]

They want all us “great unwashed free to play minions” in one dirty barrel so they can shoot us down one by one 😈

[kindred pollen]

What is this baited hook alb? Only some alliance members are on the lb and the bracketing doesn’t make sense

[cinder flame]

reducing rewards is NOT the way to improve customer relations. These battlepass rewards are garbage!

[alpine niche]

Like how many times does one have to log in to receive credit for Log In one day???

[hazy shore]

this has to be the worst events I ever saw in my life for any game lol

[molten marlin]

starts tomorrow

[candid torrent]

So, any new content and battle pass with that is only for ops 61+ now? 😡
Why???
Where was the clear communication about it beforehand, and in time?
And no, I won't jump 6 levels just in a heartbeat when I see the new battle pass communication 2 hours before reset.
So only 61+ are only the real players, I get it. 😡 Others are just simply there, and doesn't matter.

[novel verge]

They got mad people were saving them for AT for the 10,000 point tasks. Can’t make anything easy (or free) for us

[raven zephyr]

Seriously 1,5 million hostiles to finish the reliant upgrade event? Are they trying to make players just stop caring about events?

[amber grove]

Giving this Hugh in the new "ELITE" battle pass... i hope they didn't remove him from Recruit🤨

Also removing BP Overflow, they are removing the free latinum one by one🤨

[alpine niche]

Oh...then clicking on something in the Event Store only to find nothing there???

[amber grove]

These new latinum "rewards" are trashy, even my daily d'vor give higher lats

[sturdy crown]

Do the decent thing. Pull the plug on the game now, or sell it to someone that knows what they're doing.

[slender narwhal]

Too many people was using them in the tournament so take that away that is 3 tournament 10k gone

[neon bane]

Well now Scopely doesn't even get 20$ from me since the battle pass options are 50 or 100. So I'm 100% F2P

[slender narwhal]

Rev dev did say a couple arc ago that they will be doing it in a joke and by end of the year it will be 70 I think. One right so far so spend make scopely happy get to 70

[green ibex]

Here is an brilliant idea , let’s put all level 60 til 80 players in one freaking system killing level 61 hostiles 😂😎 all big players use speedcrews giving the lower players zero change of killing something. It’s briljant!!!!

[quick pebble]

@near saddle @full swan what on gods green earth is that BP...you all basically nerfed the free teir

and why are there broken rods in paid track?

[covert patrol]

because f2p players are scum and deserve to be kicked and beaten. that's billy's motto

this arc is just an utter disaster

[quick pebble]

There used to be 2 things mixed in non-resources days in the free teir and in the elite tier..now there is just and the pay out is nerfed...you all are just ***********

Unnerf the BP now!!!!!🤬 🤬

[tiny remnant]

would be really nice if you explained HOW to donate. turning them in in the refinery does nothing.

[quick pebble]

Add the mythic, platinum, diamond whater you want but dont nerf what we already have damn it!!!

[lilac ocean]

Event store. 1 at a time

[jaunty ingot]

Only showing us 1 week of the battlepass events is just wrong, clearer communications my foot.

[obsidian ether]

f2p BP not worth spending time on it

[quick pebble]

Just lost motivation to do any events at all...I am just gonna do my thing and play the game. if any event gets done accidentally great..if not well the payout is 💩 anyway

[mellow fjord]

what are those rewards for an ops72?????

[plush smelt]

Games broken crews broken honestly scopley you have become one of the worst companies and games iv ever had the misfortune of encountering in my entire life

[gritty fox]

Ur Events suck:

[worldly cedar]

Epic fail. The end.

[lapis zephyr]

Log in starts tomorrow.
Codes start when mod announces it. Like every time 🖖🏻

[slender narwhal]

Day 1-5 a point each ( 5 points) day 27 get 27 points. Need 27 points to finish the event so what are the extra 5 points

[empty pivot]

So, no BP points for me, hmm?

[amber wyvern]

This is bad ... This is dumb.

It's like dynamic scrapping ... Trying to control players and punishing advancement and not Hoarding.

Same with these events where I'm punished for upgrading my ship instead of hording.

[urban hatch]

I capped the SMS, but I think I would have advanced by at least one position with 1-1-2 on the last SLBs, which would have been worth 25 Janeway and 20 Doctor additional shards 😠, the top 4 positions were from 33050 to 34900, so depending on how Retrieving... 1-3 did, I could have scored quite a bit more. Now I'll never know.

[late ivy]

yea, they got with that both times too

[warped grove]

What happened to awarding schematics if you didn't have the ship built yet? Was actually looking forward to making progress on acquiring this ship and instead I have parts that, while useful several months down the road, do little for me now.

[late orchid]

Why make the new space need tokens? Why gatekeep players. It makes no freaking sense...

[frigid depot]

no point if you can't get past the buffs their ships have and go boom

[simple helm]

Running first contact initiative in back to back weeks with same scoring and same milestones is super lazy and half hearted as a CoTA replacement. Can we at least pretend to give a crap?

[frigid depot]

no i want to know what the image was

[ebon pollen]

Old German symbol used in WW2

[stoic abyss]

Vengeance event scores do not update when upgrading the new building

[tardy berry]

well the $20 bp store claim is back in the store

[frigid depot]

it was originally a peace sign though

[tribal kindle]

they adjusted the milestones with dil too (was millions of sigma before)

[solid tangle]

Magnificent tip. Very becoming of the whole game.

[ocean crypt]

your new battlepass rewards are not more meaningful to player grades , have no relevance to player lvs and a complete crock, total lies on your part to entice fools to soon be parted with their money, what a joke

[winged niche]

Please Add U.S.S Dauntless ship blueprints in event store Or Start a Event for uss Dauntless blueprints
Because of anyone not have uss Dauntless then Event was useless
Make event like last time USS Reliant ship event

[keen crypt]

BRING BACK CHOICE REWARDS. So many Players look forward to it. That is the only reason why I even buy battle pass every month. Why Nerf what works

[unkempt bronze]

looks more like a french wounded soldier medal to me, from WW I

wounded solder medal not a hate symbol

[frigid depot]

you know this is an international game and you cant please everyone but that is not what i think they are on about, but this 1

[urban hatch]

Event to complete missions would work better if the missions were there

[molten marlin]

Okay, the discussion about the icon is over.

[frigid depot]

i mean people can get offended over so much these days but a > on top of a M with a dot underneth ???

[thorn belfry]

with no tie breaker why do i always loose these

[ocean crypt]

also battlepass has no overflow and broken desealing rods for free players has dropped to 90, so not doing anybody any favors , but instead taking away from every free player, way to go thieves

[keen crypt]

You got to be kidding

I didn't look through all the events yet but that is messed up

[crisp nymph]

you get 90 in the free track and 360 from logging in 27days...but that is still less then what is used to be

[alpine niche]

Dang...everything is screwy in this release. Maybe quicker to say what is working right.

[polar wadi]

Given this massive middle finger that Scopely is giving all F2P players with this update, you really start to wonder if it’s still worth it.

[rare marsh]

Is this feature working. Everything still greyed out....

[vapid sigil]

Folks, Look at the Daily Log in at the end of 28 days.... it's 270 broken Rods... plus the 90 in the Battlepass, makes 360 all day long...

[polar wadi]

Yeah, but afaik no quick interim battle pass anymore, makes -360 per month

Oh, and did you found the latinum from the overflow yet?

[vapid sigil]

We knew we were gonna loose something... Look, It's not perfect, but better than NOTHING....

Which We could still get... Keep that in mind.

[polar wadi]

Oh, and did you realize that some of the 10.000 turnament tasks are now also not as easy anymore without the token reward system? 😄

[noble aspen]

Once again, on behalf of all players ops 1-19, thanks

[full swan]

https://tenor.com/view/fair-that-is-fair-chris-farley-enough-okay-gif-12224131

[maiden ridge]

My Code worked now 🙂 Thank you. <@&509690795536941056>

[next vortex]

So... scopelys grand plan is take away from f2p and light spenders progression in an attempt to create the medium to high spender? Pretty unethical gaming plan. I regret coming back after a month off. Perhaps I will request account deletion this time.

[keen crypt]

Even moderate spenders I spend a chunk every month and now this.

The Choise Rewards is one reason why I spent money on this game otherwise the battlepass was only good for overflow which is now also removed

[halcyon valley]

Baited Hook - is it correct that you only have one of those parts to donate - for me the aggregation hostiles but nothing else?

[vernal breach]

It's already hard enough to level a g6 epic when you know exactly what you're gonna pull from the choice rewards. I don't get enough bonus tokens to convert all my crystal, so I buy enough crystal to use my bonus tokens and put the rest in ore/gas as needed. This is no longer an option, and now I'll have tons of mats that aren't really useful to me as I'm 71 and moving out of G6, but will now need to take much longer to get the correct mats thanks to this change.

The whole reason you went to choice tokens was because the format to which you've now reverted us was recognized as terrible. So yeah, now were' back to it, and guess what, it's still terrible.

So I'm gonna use the vault I've saved, level what I can, and then delete my account after 4.5 years, and I'm gonna go outside and do yardwork before joining my kids in Cookie Run Kingdom because at least they don't bork their release every time.

[prisma gate]

Can we please have some events that dont force us to level up operations? Its so very discouraging and a blatant, intentional move to get us to compromise our progression. Got excited to maybe actually get decent rewards from new events, basically left with nothing to do.

This makes the players feel bad. I want to have fun, not be controlled like a puppet for loot.

[stark warren]

Imagine playing a video game that releases new content and drastic changes to events and rewards and even 40% of the player base thinks it’s great? lol. Cmon, if you zoom in you can see the reflection of the gun in Hammy’s eye when he says the FTP rewards are better. 😆

[tall dove]

I was happy to spend my Franklin Biotics during the current "Donation" event. At the same time, I was building my Franklin-A. This has resulted in me being unable to donate any more Franklin parts. I have plenty of those, but not Franklin-A parts. This makes the event impossible! There should be BOTH options!

[wet cloak]

I‘m lvl 29. But seriously… what for god‘s sake is wrong with you Scopely?!?!

[light lantern]

<@&509690795536941056> The "Baited Hook" event requires me(ops52) to use aggregation loot, which is impossible for anyone, on my server 411, to get because we don't even have G7 unlocked.

[tall dove]

Heldenhaft is ptw 🙁

[ashen notch]

That loot has nothing to do with G7 though...

[light lantern]

I thought that was aggregation loot, no?

[wet cloak]

22 Millionen? Das ist kein p2w mehr, sondern grenzt an illegalen Organhandel. Dieser Missions Arc und das Update ist doch Nix außer ein riesengroßer Haufen Mist!

[ashen notch]

No, aggregation is tied to the recon locus and the systems with the aggregation hostiles. Most levels have access, just what you can kill is decided by the level of your recon locus building.

Look for these systems west of original fed space, just below the continum (revenant) area.

[tall dove]

hast du ein Privatleben? Doof! hast du keine 99,00 EUR für Packs (welche nicht mal den vollen Ausbau eines SChiffes garantieren)? Pech!

[jagged current]

We have 2 days to complete missions that are buried in the holodeck

[gilded totem]

I might be a young player (2yrs) but .. for my feeling scopely is not only aiming the gun on the (ship)deck its has loaded it with a armour piercing bullet making absolutly sure this ship/game will sink

for a lot of USA players spending money is "easier" then europeans/and or other countries .. a hobby is in general .. 10-50 dollars/euro's ... including membership and attributes ...

Its kinda getting rediculous that you have to click 1h to 2h just to "collect" .. switching crews for every "task"

Are we questioning ourselfs ....

Where is the fun in this game ... and how does the fun look like ?

[junior vale]

Where exactly ARE those three missions? I'm Ops 48. Are they not available to folks my Ops level or what? I don't see them in Holodeck offerings. Also I've logged in like 4 times today and still haven't received credit for even one of them. A new "feature"? Le' sigh...

I see on the Event-chat someone said those missions are for Ops 61+. Why oh why are they showing for anyone below Ops 61+ then? To make it look like we actually have something to do down here? Fail if so. Even with that we don't have much at all. Good grief. 🙄

[keen crypt]

I will change my review when fixed and recommend others to review as well

[median belfry]

I did this year's ago...

[keen crypt]

Maybe a whole herd of ppl needs to do it

[junior vale]

This BS is starting to make WarRobots look enticing again. Well done Scopely. That's quite a feat.

[keen crypt]

Yes STFC you do have competition. We played here so long we have friends on server and enjoy the companionship. It is easy for you to end that companionship in this manner

Never tried War Robots

[junior vale]

If you look at all their negative reviews on there, it makes you wonder how they're still a 2 star overall. Much less as high as they are. Last I looked it was 4.2. Still the same?

That's BS too if so.

It's P2Win mostly, but at least their in game purchases are reasonable. Unlike someone else we know of.

[round tangle]

Still can’t claim the daily mission key

[bitter basalt]

<@&509690795536941056> These values dont make sense, we need almost 80 trips to gather it

[dense hollow]

So ive logged in tonight but not got the engaged daily login. Does this not start till tomorrow or is it bugged

[junior vale]

Same question here Rob. Let's roll the dice! Darn! Snake Eyes again! 😅

[lilac ocean]

tomorrow

[ruby dove]

It starts tomorrow

[inner nova]

I don't see any upside to using the new Officer Recruit Depot. I'd rather just spend directly on the officers I need like before.

[trim bramble]

Terrible content, I can only kill 61s for 25 merits, 24k required for one refine. Only one system has 61s and you need tokens to get there. What a load of 💩

[inner nova]

Actually, there are multiple systems with 61's (including the 62 systems), but the rest of that is accurate.

[trim bramble]

Ah thanks, the first one had 20 players chasing 61s like an under 5’s football match or a Benny Hill sketch…

[inner nova]

Doing that many drones is way too grindy for me, and I'll skip the heroic sms. But regular hostiles work for the slb and alb, so that'll be ok.

[high wraith]

I can’t even kill 61’s and im ops 65

[strong lintel]

I've been working on research and upgrades to move from 39 to 40. My Franklin-A progression is locked until I level up my Ops. This mid-ops battlepass reward system being siloed off the way it is, is terrible. I'm not sure how hard it is to set it up so that it gives me tokens that allow me choose if I want to buy bps or upgrade materials for the selection of ships. I can already earn NX-01 bps, why is it that I'm not allowed to use battlepass progress towards the unlock at 39? The last battlepass had my Voyager being progression locked. The Talios battlepass was awful because it tried shoving bps on me that I couldn't use when what I needed was Vi'dar upgrade materials. I'm now looking at 27 days of useless Franklin-A materials and missing out on NX-01 bps. Can we please do something to address this? It feels awful.

[harsh geode]

There aren’t actually NX-01 schematics in the BP if that makes you feel better. I know there’s the conversion in the event store but, afiact, it’s just for people who buy the $100 BP.

[strong lintel]

So they pulled the schematics up to the mythic tier of the BP? That's con artist behavior.

[harsh geode]

It’s not even in the mythic tier, it’s part of one of the packs that include the mythic tier. You can unlock mythic for $50, but that doesn’t get you schematics.

Also, it doesn’t look like any tier includes badges any more.

[strong lintel]

I think badges are getting replaced with the officer laurels. I guess the whole concept of the mid-ops BP helping people unlock and progress their ships went out the window in favor of profit.

[civic pasture]

thats what they want

[inner nova]

With officer depot tokens, I meant.

[strong lintel]

I think they are getting rid of the officer depot store so we get fed up with rng and buy more tokens.

[civic pasture]

yes use them before that option is removed

[mortal tartan]

Buy more packs ™️

[mortal tartan]

No in order to "simplify*" things they added the laurels for all new officers, and all the current ones still use the badges

*simplify means add an extra currency and remove none of the old ones

[novel totem]

Good evening <@&509690795536941056> the new hostile loop is silly beyond anything. I need to grind the new hostiles to upgrade the building. While upgrading the building will enable me to kill the new hostiles.

That's one run in a 66 system. After doing 2 runs I have ~22k of the G6 currency from the hostiles.

I need to upgrade my G6 currency to G7 in order to do anything. Upgrading them requires 216k (!) of G6 currency in order to get 400 G7 tokens.

I'm not going to spend a single piece currency on this game until this and the following is adressed:

• Mythic track value is below the normal paid track
• Choice tokens are gone
• AT changes are reconsidered and made more reasonable
• G5 scrapping gets improved (by a lot). By slashing down the time to max 6d and have return increased to a meaningful amount. As a G7 player this is a wasted opportunity to accelerate Maxing G6 ships.

[mortal tartan]

Buy More Packs

[novel totem]

Even if they would remove tokens to enable "grinding" this would be still silly beyond anything

[crimson galleon]

I see that the Scopely video explaining duo waves shows ops 72 player ships against lvl 61 waves. my question is.- if it takes level 72 players to beat level 61 waves …… what the heck are the ops 61 supposed to do? you guys are nuts.

[kindred meadow]

Is the Rough Business Mission Double? Looks pretty much the same to me

[lucid yacht]

Dear ScoPAYly, @full swan and other Species.

This is my critique. To the newest Arc.

1. Removing the Choice Tokens from BP is THE worst move you could have done as the Choice Tokens where one of the few things that were actually good.

2. The content of the Passes are totally garbage. And i explain why:

The Elite pass give round about 4 times the rewards from the f2p track for 22.99€ in germany.
The mystic pass give only round about 2.2 times the rewards from the free track but costs + 37 €.
The mystic track should have at least the 1.5 times of the the elite pass to Match the content for the pricing.

This is actually pure scam and you should be ashamed of it.

3. The New loop is a massiv pay2play. Without the building you CANT compete in anything. WDs? No chance, hitting New hostiles near your Level? No chance... this is pure gar.bage. The only way to lvl the building is to trade in their loot. I CANT hit 71 not even close. So i need to grind 63/64 to get 280k of the 6* loot to convert it... Genius move... this needs urgent attention...

4. Your g5 scrapping is a blatant joke. Not only the time is hilarious but the outcome is a joke i understand that it shouldnt be a major loop to progress but that right now is just not smart.

5. You halved the income for f2p player ... really bad decision and also the income of broken deasealing rods. Now you have to pay to get the same as before without paying... Just a greedy.

It sometimes feels like you want the game to fail so you can shut it down. If it is so: then shut it down or let it run in maintance Mode...

But dont Release such bad, unbalanced arcs with so called "improvments" who are just: get less, pay more...

[dusky mortar]

Ops 70, t6 Ent-E.
I need 95K training merits to do a single pull in refinery. I get 11K on one hull. Way too much work.

[elder warren]

Not that anyone is reading, or caring, but the new battlepass is 🗑️
Removing the officer depot tokens and replacing it to give us less options is 🗑️
The broken resealing rods moving even more behind a paywall is 🗑️
G5 scraping is 🗑️
Latest update is 🗑️

The game used to have redeeming qualities but has now fully turned to ...

🗑️ 🗑️ 🗑️

[dusky mortar]

rancid smelly garbage

[cold spoke]

Have they released the new missions and if yes are they in the holodeck I have no new missions

[wheat crown]

Did y’all get rid of Choice Tokens to try and sell the Mythic Pass?

Unless you can prove I’m getting more resources from the regular and elite pass than I would have from Choice Tokens Im assuming you did this to try and layer one more pass on top of all the other BS.

Also you really need a bulk claim for factions and there needs to be a way to cleanup inventory of old currency/tokens/etc, some kind of exchange system

[toxic marsh]

where are these missions ??

[strong lintel]

The update feels like it does nothing but push for increased spending. Huge miss for the game when they are trying to entice people back into playing. It does nothing but increases the opportunities to pander to the whales.

[delicate raven]

What setup were you running and which level ships were you hitting?
Just asking since I'm at a similar point and might torture myself with this new garbage later...

[dusky mortar]

SNW Pike, SNW

I can hit up to 68, but realistically, 66/67 is better. It still took me a good two hours to get my 1st refinery pull.

[novel mango]

Forbidden tech SLB is not scoring. And it’s been a couple hours since I tried so if it’s lag, it’s massive. And yes, I know how the dang event works. I’ve done it many times.

If I am not going get points I want my resources back!

God how can you guys be so bad at your job!

[sacred scarab]

This isn't about today's update but last week's: you recognized from player feedback last arc that maverick task visibility was an issue and changed it so they showed up in events. Then last week you undid that, acting like the leaderboard was the only thing people wanted. It was not, and you were specifically told that. If the tasks are buried in the faction menu people forget about them. Put them back in events

[kind stirrup]

Literally choosing to skip this content it's making me depressed

[eternal stratus]

Well I'm not going to list everything that's wrong with this months ARC. There's been plenty of others that have listed a lot of the same things on my list.
So instead, I will just say this to the Scopely Overlords of the STFC game. This months ARC blows big green slimy chunks of vomit. So I'm gonna go spend money and time on Pokemon Go. A game that doesn't lag, freezes and kicks.
A game that has a monthly pass for $4.99 and gives out way more value of digital spiff than what I would have gotten for $99. A game that I can play for hours like I used to do with STFC.
A game that's fun and doesn't feel like a chore or a job. There's a lot of very cool things to STFC but unfortunately the good is getting swamped by far more bad things about the game. Which has driven over a hundred people from the game that I know of and interacted with and no, you can't bribe me to try an pitch them to return to a game that I can't in good conscience even recommend to others anymore. You lied to us players. You said that you would fix the quality of game play, it's gotten worse. The game is so riddled and choked up with daily chores that takes up an hour before I can even get to events. Some stuff has been streamlined but then 10 more things get added.
Then there's multiple steps to claim. It wouldn't be so bad if the game was fun again but now it's become a choir and even a job. I'm 60 years old, my job is to care for my elderly parents and raise grandchildren.
Pokemon Go, is fun and it takes me away from reality for awhile. STFC used to be fun....
Used to be ....

[worldly grove]

So you have removed Choice rewards and replaced it with what?? Can’t seem to find it….. you want people to ops up but just gimped everyone!
I feel for the lower levels, Franklin/A were always terrible loops that had little Value, Vidar/Talios are atleast useful

[limber stream]

Rewards for turning in Aggregation banners. 1 single latinum. Why is this even in the loot table? You can’t help yourself can you?

[amber patrol]

Wait wait wait. Broken rods went away too?

[prisma gate]

some reward

[worn galleon]

Can we talk about how insane 1.75 Million hostiles to score in this event is?

[prisma gate]

new event roster seems intended only for spenders. really discouraging

[worn galleon]

Epic parts didn't score

[novel mango]

They want you to ops up but they want you to pay $99 over and over again. They’re lying to us every time they say they hear us and they’re gonna improve the game they’re lying..

[worn galleon]

It's... dumb. I did an upgrade with epic parts, they're not listed as point generating so I can't get points any other way, I'd have to buy a 2nd one to use the parts

[worn galleon]

<@&509690795536941056> Epic parts aren't scoring on this event. I'm completely shut out, I can't be alone.

[hexed hawk]

Are you saying that 2 15 minute speedups no matter your ops level isn’t an adequate reward for logging in, because, nope sorry can’t continue i tried to believe my own lies, and i failed miserably, maybe i need to go work for scopely. I bet they train you to drink the kool aide

[prisma gate]

know what sucks? I could probly have a second reliant now, but the augment faction claim was limited to 100 claims, and to unlock it initially i bought half of the reliant in the store.

the problem? now theres not even a half unlock in the store and i cant get any more blueprints from event stores.

i basically spent money on nothing. fml.

at least i can keep pulling squall blueprints past initial unlock...

[south blaze]

There are definitely BP in the Outpost Refinery, Zach. Whatever will replace Ferengistore should also have them... at least 10 or so per event

[prisma gate]

ops 46

[novel mango]

It’s not the only event not scoring, forbidden tech, not scoring, at least not for me and I know how to do the dang event.

[civic oak]

Wait what do you mean, it gives enough just to unlock one ship? Or what

[prisma gate]

yes. now i dont have the option to buy another 1/2 unlock or get the blueprints another way, im stuck with 1.5 reliants

[keen crypt]

They have not replace it with anything

[tame terrace]

<@&509690795536941056> Ya know how you had that survey abt buying battle passes…..Yeah….THIS is why I don’t buy them anymore. Nothing worth the money spent. The ONLY reason I was even SOMETIMES buying it was for the mat tokens and you took those away so….yeah….DEFINITELY not buying it this month. I don’t even know that I will bother completing my battle pass tbh….it’s so…meh

[keen crypt]

Not worth attempting they took away the overflow

[tame terrace]

And I am going to spend money on the battle pass why??? Weee!! I get 135 artifact gallery schematics….I already have enough for the next three ops levels🙄🙄🙄🙄. Yay, Nurse Chapel shards….I only maxed her out a long time ago 🙄🙄🙄🙄. Basically battle pass stays like this….I can absolutely guarantee you I will never buy it again.
<@&509690795536941056>

[errant barn]

Don't. 😄

[tame terrace]

I need to retake that survey 🤣🤣🤣. They made it ten times worse. Between this and the new incursion format I am surprised they don’t have people jumping ship as fast as they can. Even I’m getting really close to saying bye bye. <@&509690795536941056> Please tell Scopely: THIS is not how you motivate people to spend more $, this is how you tick them off and they quit and stop spending any money.

[errant barn]

I totally get you man! I requested my account to be deleted today and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one in that case unfortunately...

[old mason]

Did I miss a per-annoucement that this arc would be 61+? To me that was a surprise. I'm now stuck at 60 playing "catch up" on a bunch of stuff. I feel like really going slow now for everyone 61+ to work out all the bugs in the new arc before I get there.

[tame terrace]

Yeah I can see that happening…..If I am to the point I am thinking of quitting I can’t begin to imagine what others are thinking. Scopely is really not very good at anticipating what the consumer wants

[livid yarrow]

I’m quitting the game after like 6 years. $50 for the cheapest pass now and the new content has been consistently dumb. Thanks for ruining the game scopely.

[tame terrace]

They do have a $20.00 option. The $50 is to get the Elite and Mystic. (I just wouldn’t spend the $20 to get shards for characters I’m already maxed on and bazillion rss that I don’t need).

[livid yarrow]

Either way. The new content has been terrible. I’m soooo tired of new reds with specialized crews as well. Just over missing the fun and feeling like it’s a full time job

[tame terrace]

Oh and I heard you got rid of the overflow…..😡😡😡😡. That was the best part of the pass

[keen crypt]

The two things I look forward to every month Choice Rewards and Overflow

Even the Pay2Plays are upset with the sudden change

[trim bramble]

Choice rewards were the only reason I bought the pack each month. Zero spend from me now. Your new content is garbage, time to leave and explore alternatives I guess. Well done Scopley!

[prisma gate]

no more choice reward chips from pass huh? guess im not buying it this time around

[zinc nexus]

Hold up. I just saw this myself. What the actual tribble is going on here? I already thought the game was unplugged when discord was unavailable earlier (though I also had a sneaky suspicion I had been banned for asking them to fix the Kir’shara daily). But this … and the ops 61+ lock is just … that’s too far.

[prisma gate]

discord specific issues

[zinc nexus]

Dang. I really wanted to blame Scopely. 😂

[deep mulch]

this is the final straw for me. three battle pass unlocks. All of the costs have gone up and poor value for money. I dont know what else to say about it. Change is always difficult but Beck said we should see less grinding due to the the Archive, but, suddenly that is now mostly chance, and everything is about the $ and you want me to call back people who left the game? well everyone said no. Work with us people. Not a fan of this Arch, new hostiles, different tokens, Work with us people. No specials worth buying. Nothing with G5 epic gas worth buying. Keep going in this direction and yeah, you will wind up working alone.

[hard terrace]

So, because I don't rush ahead of my level and my reliant and NX-01 are level locked I have the option of killing 1,405,000 Augments and 17,438 Xindi Reptilians over 2 days to complete events OR I can speed from 49 that I just achieved a day ago all the way to 51, just to be able to upgrade these ships. And don't forget the 5 Day event, looking at these other two, I'm grateful it's a 5 day event, that requires me to push to 52 to be able to complete it. At least I can upgrade the Dauntless I don't have because Aggregation are too broken at the entry level to fight and only recently have been able to start regularly acquiring those BP.

[worn galleon]

???

[mortal tartan]

Yes, pay something for nothing. It's the Scopely mantra.

[quick pebble]

For mid ops pass, even with 3 track the BP is still missing the ship of the month schematics..where did they go?

[mortal tartan]

Into the main store so you can buy more packs

[lucid yacht]

Dear ScoPAYly, @full swan and other Species.

This is my critique. To the newest Arc.

1. Removing the Choice Tokens from BP is THE worst move you could have done as the Choice Tokens where one of the few things that were actually good.

2. The content of the Passes are totally garbage. And i explain why:

The Elite pass give round about 4 times the rewards from the f2p track for 22.99€ in germany.
The mystic pass give only round about 2.2 times the rewards from the free track but costs + 37 €.
The mystic track should have at least the 1.5 times of the the elite pass to Match the content for the pricing.

This is actually pure scam and you should be ashamed of it.

3. The New loop is a massiv pay2play. Without the building you CANT compete in anything. WDs? No chance, hitting New hostiles near your Level? No chance... this is pure gar.bage. The only way to lvl the building is to trade in their loot. I CANT hit 71 not even close. So i need to grind 63/64 to get 280k of the 6* loot to convert it... Genius move... this needs urgent attention...

4. Your g5 scrapping is a blatant joke. Not only the time is hilarious but the outcome is a joke i understand that it shouldnt be a major loop to progress but that right now is just not smart.

5. You halved the income for f2p player ... really bad decision and also the income of broken deasealing rods. Now you have to pay to get the same as before without paying... Just a greedy.

It sometimes feels like you want the game to fail so you can shut it down. If it is so: then shut it down or let it run in maintance Mode...

But dont Release such bad, unbalanced arcs with so called "improvments" who are just: get less, pay more...

[halcyon tinsel]

Love how I stumble upon changes of things that dont need changing. Then come to discord to see everyone else thinking the new battle pass is the worst thing too😂

[warped dagger]

I thought this had been removed? Or is this the new design?

[mortal tartan]

You're gonna get a chat ban by the discord paradigm tokens...

Imagine my surprise that your message was deleted in record time. Just shows they do actually read this chat, but they don't care about anything we have to say.

[rotund token]

Didn't we use to get 360 broken desealing rods with the BP overflow even in the free track? If so, now it's just 90 since they added the extra tier.

[modern spade]

now you get them from the daily login event.. "Engage" button.. 90+360 @rotund token

<@&509690795536941056> keep up the hard work... but...
This just about sums u the feeling of most of our members this morning.
Especially the 66-69 bracket, who are in catch 22, unable to get enough loot for the pull to improve building to improve killing to get more loot.
Balance is way off, not properly tested on all ops.
61-65 seem pretty ok with their cheap pull, for smol mats.
70 is.. very challenging ops to be at unless you have a t5+ venge or t13+ e70, and even then, its not exactly butter.

This loop is as badly tuned as Khan arc was at launch, and is turning ppl off.
And we all know the knock-on effects that had on the Hurak loop that followed, as hardly anyone had unlocked WOK Joachim from Exiles grinding yet, without whom the Hurak loop was basically impossible.
More than half the player base has left since May 2025 when that arc launched, 1/4 had left in three months,
This loop is just as off-putting as that was, this is going to push a load of ppl out in some brackets.

Also... REALLY doesn't help that you Rng the outcome of the essential building mats chest.
Ppl are angry about this, they feel cheated no matterwhat unless they get max. This is not a good "new" thing, to introduce RnG to this aspect.
Remove it and give a consistent median amount please, for something this essential to a loop.

[slender narwhal]

<@&509690795536941056> old add more lv61 maps of these new hostiles even the LV 70+ are scared to hit the lv62. They go first for the 61

[cunning chasm]

WTF Scopely, 61 are ok, 62 are too much, 10 times stronger than 61 and barely able to kill few per hull. would need kill 7120 L61s.....🤬

[slender narwhal]

Anything good for f2p is getting nerved or taken away next your will probably have to have a prescription to play and then still buy all the the packs

[cunning chasm]

Like it would help, L70 need kill 7120 L61 which is not doable, even 62 is still 3120 with maybe 6 kills per hull on T16 cube .... Pretty much would need upgraded Vengeance to even attempts this.

[modern spade]

You don't hit these to complete the Heroic.
Hit any other hostile type, look at what scores.
You need to hit 15 of these to complete SMS, get the rest in MU or Gorn...
This loop does have severe issues, for all 66-69, and weaker 70's, but thats more due to loot required for pull for building mats.
Completing the Heroic is not an issue if you just read tho.

[slender narwhal]

I know but how are we able to kill so much with all the damage we get when ship ,crew and FT ability activating and getting killed after aver 40 LV 61. And only have a small amount of tokens to get there. If it was free for the LV 61 maps would be different as you could send them multiple times till the building is a couple LV where it would actually start helping

[worldly cedar]

Question: why have choice rewards gone.
Answer: tournaments could be done by using choice rewards new tournaments spend more money

[pure skiff]

The loot pulls should be linked to the building lvl, not to ops lvl, they showed this is possible and works perfectly with Recon Locus and Warp Dive Bar, but decided against this for some weird reason for this one

[slender narwhal]

Too many people are using it and they are not making money

[modern spade]

That damage shown in reports is not real damage. That text does not belong there, but you are not taking any more damage than is shown in the correct red sections.
This has been verified with logs analysis, you can check this yourself.
Your problems lie elsewhere, the general difficulty of the loop, or other.
If you are ops 61 to 65 it is easy to get enough loot from a hull using Relativity and proper crew, to get the basic building mats pull.
And, again, you only need 15 of these hostiles to complete the actual small SMS.
Complete the Heroic using other hostiles.

[slender narwhal]

👍🏻

[vital swallow]

Anyone else's upgrade Fleet Commanders Event not scoring?

[molten marlin]

are you converting to skill points in the refinery, or spending skill points on the FCs

[cunning chasm]

ah ok, but doesnt change a thing, 95k for lowest pull and get 10 per kill. Thats even worse.

[modern spade]

I guess you are ops 70, without a venge or strong e70? it is a problem.
As it is for all players ops 66-69.
They also have trouble getting enough for single pull.
I am "lucky", strong 70 with strong ships, I have no problem getting the single pull from a hull, even if its slow and annoying.

This is another loop where Scopely are heavily penalising players who don't have the right crews and ships for their ops, or even just "normal" ones...
VGers were already a big slap to anyone that rushed ops.

[cunning chasm]

Yes, Ops 70 with just T10 Krensha/Cube to use. You would need maxed epic or cube or upgraded Vengeance, that's gona take like half year to get there.

[modern spade]

t13 e70 or t4+ venge does ok, 67's easy, and 68's doable. which is a bit much to ask of ppl.
Better to drop a little by one level and use loot (/and speed) crew and get your nut that way.

But they have definitely missed the mark again on the balancing of difficulty for 66-69 bracket, and early 70's

[cunning chasm]

Even with loot crew not doable as this is token space so you cant enter enough times..

[errant wind]

Lmao , it’s a all day killing spree , NOT HAPPENING

[cunning chasm]

its not, you could only enter once a day after initial bonus tokens runs out. ITs more like spent $$$ or take a month to get academy to L2

[vital swallow]

Spending on the FCs. Is the wording bust again?

[molten marlin]

the wording says spend uncommon, the only place to spend uncommon is by converting to individual skill points in the refinery

the event has always functioned this way

[vital swallow]

The one in a blue moon event where they change how it works 🙄

Luckily for me it was only a 17 sp skill unlock. (Hurrah for syndicate 40 seat)

[slender narwhal]

That is why I said it is hard if it was free to go like all other to upgrade a building it would have been hard but still ok but having it token space and loot drop is so little. They are losing their marbles to think it is fine

[elder sleet]

Now with desealing rods being considerably less at the end of the F2P path for the BP, there is no real incentive to feel pressured to finish the BP.

And I’m not spending a dime on the other crap!

There are less options in the game now for the F2P

[hybrid cloak]

If you log into the game every day, you get the same amount of broken rods at the end of the month

[elder sleet]

Yeah that’s easy, but not my point. My point is the pressure to finish the BP event … it used to be there. Not anymore.

No more officer shard, no more lat, and way less desealing rods.

[chrome rapids]

Yes many people are using it and bought the BP for the choice tokens. 1st to have the choice and get Tritanium as you barely need par/dil. 2th for AT tasks.
Now with those two reasons gone... People won't see a reason to buy the BP anymore.
So in the end BP sales will go back.

[restive wolf]

Getting the BP and then being able to hoard the choice tokens for alliance tourney and go 15/15 10k tasks was a big selling point for me.

I'll wait and see what the new tourney tasks are but looks like they nuked free and low spenders ability to do well in tourneys.

[elder sleet]

They nuked a lot of things for F2P

[elfin timber]

<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691611903426561> I really want to congratulate Scoply—no other Arc in the last eight years has motivated more players to quit or seriously consider quitting! Update: Two fewer players in the game. In two hours.

[halcyon fiber]

Already lost 3 players cause of this arc

[gleaming shale]

<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691611903426561> Dopely should really fire the existing team and hire new people... The amount of Idiocracy transpiring in these "new events" is astounding

[haughty quartz]

so they have now made it even more difficult for us to get the vengence bps, used to be a mix of parts and build x 4 different ones and uncom/rare 6 and 7 star, but now its just parts and build x 3 and the new build is one of them where as its low you hardly get any points off it. Talk about these muppets changing the goalposts, but to make it harder to get the vengence now makes it pointless to carry on. What a load of bull again. No wonder no one is happy anymore with this game. Well my spend just stopped level 71 and probably will just stop playing now. and these lot want us to bring people back, what planet are these lot on. Not this one as far as I can see!

[gleaming shale]

I got 166k alliance points last tournament to keep my alliance in Masters league and it wasn't easy anyways. These changes to AT look horrible even on paper. I'm sure that when the new "improved" AT will be even more stupid then Dopely seems to prove it is with the latest so called game enhancements...

[regal oxide]

I’m in the same boat, about half way to Vengeance FTP, ops 71 and I am at the point where I’m not sure why I am bothering with this rubbish any more.
Constantly moving goalposts and constantly reducing rewards are driving people away.

[dapper marten]

I can't find the holodeck missions for the Mission Briefing' event, can anyone help?

[ashen notch]

Are you at least ops 61? If not, you don't have access to it.

[modern spade]

Those under ops 61 have the Borg missions as shown above..
👍

[keen crypt]

Lvl 61+ only they pooped 💩 on the rest of us

[ashen notch]

I promise you, the stuff g6 and g7 got is a heaping pile of garbage. Many of us would rather have the dauntless related events over the trash they shoveled for this arc.

[keen crypt]

It is horrible even the whales don't like the changes. I am/was a mid teir spender until now. They ruined me on it. I just got the enterprise-d and was going to teir it up now it is a slow process.

Plus all the research that needs to be done before I jump to 61

[buoyant crag]

Well, if you wanted to end any incentive for anyone to spend on battle passes, you've done it Scopely. Great job.

[graceful ermine]

I forwarded the screen for 🐘

[prisma rain]

I was really looking forward to engaging with the Starfleet Academy characters in STFC. But, if you're not Ops 61 or higher, the entire Arc is completely inaccessible. That's BS. I don't care about the Dauntless. I'm ops 53. Even if they locked MOST of the content, but just allowed Ops 40-60 to complete some missions, I would have been happy. But locking ithe entire arc behind 61+? Beyond frustrating.

[buoyant crag]

And all this for a show that's about to be loaded into a torpedo casing and fired into a sun.

[prisma rain]

The original Star Trek was only 3 seasons. I don't care if Academy is deemed good or bad. My point is that Academy is relevant NOW - this year- and a new season is in the works. So fans want to interact with it NOW, not later when you're 61+ and the show is ancient history.

[odd pollen]

I would really much appreciate if my rewards would actually be paid out. Or is it a form of "don't worry, it works in the background" like last incursion 😉

[native sentinel]

Removing the Choice tokens from the Battle Pass is a killer for me. Upgrading G6 epic ships is already quite expensive in mats. Also, changing how the Vengeance event scores just added months to my unlocking it, unless I pay... and I won't. Another building, another grind... don't you Guys/Gals listen to us??? Am tired of having all these grind loops just to have minimal rewards... unless we pay. You have now made the move away from the F2P all the way to the Pay alot 2 play! If I hadn't invested the amount of money into this game, I would archive my account! It is so very obvious that you don't want to cater to your gamers, but just want to make more money off of us! Shameful!!

[spare yoke]

If it makes you feel better, the arc's not great for 61+ players either....

[ashen notch]

<@&509690795536941056>, 2X points for using Excelsior isn't working.

[astral tiger]

50 players stuck for hours and hours in level 61 Itraneia system, all waiting for the 1 level 61 NPC to spawn, because the 49 other NPCs are all 62 and insta-shot level 70+ players.
If I only begin to tell what I think about Scopely now, I'll get permabanned on Discord, on all channels, in game and they will even put me in prison in real life.

[jagged shore]

Hi i m ops56 and i dont have an exchange in the event shop

[marble parrot]

The numbers are rubbisb as the 61s are only a few bilion in power but jump ridicously to 44bil for the 62.

[pure skiff]

<@&509690795536941056> Vger SMS is broken, only giving standard points when using Excelsior, not the promised double points - hitting 50s hostiles should net 200 points each, currently only awarding 100 points each

[languid ice]

<@&509690795536941056> double points for Excelsior NOT WORKING

[hollow valley]

Yuuuuuuuup. Dopely strikes again

[stable brook]

UFOG

[woeful whale]

This 2x multiplier is it working. Every 51 fighter I’m hitting with my excelcior is only 100 points

[thorny path]

Anyone else do the Holodeck event and not get full credit?

I did the 10 part quest and a 5 part quest, which should have been 1500 points, but I only got 800.

[stable brook]

https://discord.gg/wPnSakaJY

[rigid scroll]

why is there even a 2x point for vger fighters with excelsior what else are you gunna kill them with?

[woeful flax]

2x v’ger fighter killed with excelsior not working

[shadow trellis]

Can kill any V’ger

[light seal]

#🛠-known-issues message

[civic sphinx]

Is it just me or did they reduce the amount of parts?

[rigid scroll]

Well, I guess you can but the event specifically says fighters but whatever

[shadow trellis]

Yep and when do they always get the events descriptions correct

[rigid scroll]

true

[gaunt terrace]

Looks the same to me for rare parts.

[crimson galleon]

You guys aren’t even going to acknowledge the Excelsior event not paying properly?

[gaunt terrace]

#🛠-known-issues message

[late orchid]

The absolute best part of this new arc is this:
New hostile does ridiculous levels of crit damage, but here's a new stat to mitigate that!
New stat only is attainable by the new building.
New building is tied to the new hostiles that you have to hunt down to to get kills
Can't kill new hostiles to get loot to upgrade the building
Try lower hostiles, but they are gated with tokens that you can only get a couple of per day
Can't upgrade building
Here's a whole bunch of packs to get the building up!

[jaunty nacelle]

Exactly... they have perfectly placed advancement behind a paywall

[halcyon fiber]

unless you are G7 with a Vengeance, than its relatively easy

but for g6 its basically impossible

[civic oak]

Anyone actually get lucky and get a shard from this hostile donation event yet?

Should be a lucky pull for how rare it is to even get 1.

[round tangle]

I’ve gotten like exactly two out of 30 chests so the pull rate for officer shards is GARBAGE

[stiff moon]

Cerritos event still broken?

[digital flame]

Who thought "Press the excelsior's special ability button 40 times" was a good event?

[shadow trellis]

Normal V’ger count

[digital flame]

then they should fix the description, it specifies fighters

[austere bay]

<@&509690795536941056> is this garbage a weekly thing now? i sure hope not because it blows

[ruby hornet]

I just log in to avoid all Events now 😂 especially what’s contained in that FCI folder.

Once I am ZEROED Resources I’ll be gone until the dark cold winter…

[warm gyro]

Is it actually worth doing anything for events? I am not going to spend heartbreaking hours contacting CS at the same time as everyone else

For pity's sake, do something. Stop shafti g your players and do something. It's unfair and immoral.

[jaunty nacelle]

The unfortunate truth is.. they don't care, they don't listen, and until people stop buying, they will continue to do this, offering less rewards everytime, adding bigger paywalls, and destroying the game and the spirit of Star Trek until there is nothing left. At which point they will simply close the game, find another to buy and take advantage of those players until that game goes under as well. It's a cycle that these guys will just do, constently... and the worst part is.. the front line guys like the <@&509690795536941056> will always get the heat from the player base. Why do you think they stay silent now, only responding to small issues they think they might actually be able to fix, their hands are tied, and no one above them listens to them either.

[alpine niche]

Good thing about this game is that it has helped be break my need to accomplish everything. I have learned to ignore most of the events that come from their "who can devise the most ridiculous score" event. Saves me time looking at the events, then choosing how many I'll ignore.

[sick rampart]

An Open Letter to Scopely/STFC

Happy to discuss further.

Apologies for this being in 5 numbered image form, but the thoughts were too long for 1 post in slowmode.

<@&509690795536941056> @near saddle @@full swan

[south blaze]

Aren't you making your problem worse as the System can only reset when nobody is actively inside of the system, so at least log off for 5 Minutes or ideally all leave and come back later and it shoul dhave gone to SOME form of balance between high and low level ships?

[wintry ember]

It is just CotA in a new skin with rewards that are worse. Similar to the reskin of the Saris event. No new code, just recycle the old crap and make it worse.

[austere bay]

well cota ran once a month. this is now running back to back..... i didnt even get enough premium mirror dust for a single research between runs XD

[wintry ember]

Like I mentioned. Make it worse and they did just that.

[spiral veldt]

having a 3 level gap for hostiles in the new systems is obnoxious. Especially since the 72's aren't easily farmable without a max veng. It just makes needing to kill 200 of the 71 hostiles each day even more annoying since it requires killing other level hostiles as well.

[novel mango]

Anyone else not having the daily log in not working again?

[ocean crypt]

the outpost buffs for other areas other than the outpost are a bit hypocritical, considering you have to put your best ships and crews into outpost and have next to nothing left to use v's hostiles and armadas elsewhere, plus the 6hr timeline is also a bit of a joke, so thay have to be done overnight , otherwise theres nothing you can do during the day while they are running taking all the best ships and crews , total farce and need to be changed

[eager birch]

<@&509690795536941056> I love this game. Its gives me something I enjoy in my off-time. I even overrlook some of the more nuanced glitches and annoyances because hey... its a worldwide, multi-faceted mega player game which probably has some advanced coding requirements........ BUT!!!!! Again.... you totally miscalculate the ability of the average player to kill new hostiles.... and again.... you make new hostiles that are WAY to powerful, with little in return to be worth the grind. Im not asking for you to make it easy....... but come one. Until you archive the Nx-01, Gorn, Titan-A, and so on... ships with monotonous grinds so players can free up their play time..... its hard to spend 8 hours a day grinding some near-impossible hostile at level for crap loot with a ridiculous cost for the "daily" pull,. I'm Ops 67 with a T15 Cube. I can easily kill the 61's... which Ive seen drop an average of 7 merits. The Merit>Engineering Credit daily pull is 6000.... that means Id have to kill 857 of these suckers A DAY to even pull a single chest. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Please tell me that its just another in a long run of errors in coding and not intentional.... because if it is as intended.... then I will not be participating in this loop one minute. I will not waste ANY of many precious Sigma resources on repairs, nor will I waste me time. And Im not the only one...... not that you care!

[ebon wharf]

People need to start reacting en masse to escalate these issues.

There’s basically been zero CM or Mod presence since maintenance.

#🌌-galaxy-chat message

#🌌-galaxy-chat message

[novel mango]

They always go radio silent when they cause and S storm.

It’s the let’s stick our head in the sand and it will go away and so far it’s worked for them.

[ebon wharf]

Then that means players actually going for collective action and message and supporting others versus undercutting each other.

Presumably we play because there’s something that actually is fun in the game. I’m tired of having friends leave explicitly because of all the broken things.

That has worked before for the players

[sonic idol]

Xindi are a ton stronger today than ever. Same crews and same ships as normal but this time we all blew up when we used to be able to destroy multiple before having to repair

[tame terrace]

Are you maybe missing a territory service that could be affecting it?

[sonic idol]

I'll check again but I'm sure we had it activated

[ebon wharf]

If you’re relying on lower deck officer abilities, they might not be firing.

Torres, Kim, Neelix not working for armadas.

Remember, they fixed an exploit benefitting players in 15 minutes. They haven’t bothered to fix this in 1.5 days.

[sonic idol]

No it's all activated... But it's one shoting us

Also today exo comps weren't giving any bonus to my dauntless, wanted to see if there was a difference but ended up getting less kills when having 5 exo comps activated to help with health and strength.

[sonic idol]

I would agree if I ever changed my crew. But again same crews as always and same typical territory benefits activated. Still getting one shot. Yesterday was able to kill 5 before repairing

[lilac oracle]

Updates should be ready a month before general release and tested on a separate server. Isn't that how it's normally done? I'm thinking scooply finishes updates 5 minutes before they go live ..

[lyric shoal]

Their intent is that you'll spend to upgrade the building this month to make it slightly better, then next month, you're supposed to buy the new ship that'll make it even easier.
This has been a repeating pattern for quite a while. When the cutoff for new content was 51, upper 50s could hit down enough to get buy. When the cutoff raised to 56, low to mid 60s had room to shoot down. Now that they've raised it to 61, it seems they have found a way to make shooting down less worth while

[plucky flare]

Maybe it's been mentioned already, but I thought the Officer Flash Pass was going to be intregated into the Battlepass. The Flash Pass had a free track with officer shards and the new battlepass free track has zero officer shards.. Was this a lie?

[wispy crest]

Wow. They have the auto mod set to where I can't post something with no caps, no profanity, etc. It's just critical of them.

Disgraceful.

[molten marlin]

Try posting it without the insults

That's why the automod caught it

[wispy crest]

Accurate criticism isn't an insult.

[molten marlin]

Uhuh, like I said, lose the insults and it's fine, if you can't follow the rules, you're free to leave.

[wispy crest]

Typical.

[boreal coyote]

My biggest insult. I wrote a couple posts but I just don’t care to post them “to the void” just to feel better. Feels worthless to try anymore …..

[late orchid]

The rules are censoring free speech.... that scopley or the mod ears are too sensitive to hear... the players are collectively P. O...

[molten marlin]

Free speech does not mean free from consequence, nor does it have anything to do with this discord.

[vernal breach]

Here's an actual metric for you. Day one of new arc my 90 person max level alliance generally buy between 150 and 250 items based on alliance gifts received from purchases.

We have 21 right now, and that number won't include me. I'll be amazed if anybody else does.

Take that number to your marketing department.

[errant belfry]

I felt lucky to get more than just 1 latinum for a pull. I'll have better luck finding a golden unicorn in front of my door than getting an officer shard.

[civic oak]

@errant belfry hey I got 5 uc armada directives so there's hope for you yet

[wispy crest]

Actually, speech IS relevant, since this is SUPPOSEDLY "Event FEEDBACK....."

Don't make a pretense at allowing honest feedback and then block people from being able to post any. Utter hypocrisy.

[molten marlin]

Just because it's a feedback channel doesn't mean you suddenly get to break the rules.

You are not blocked from posting feedback, you are blocked from using vulgar language and insults. There's a difference between constructive feedback and attacking members of the team because you feel slighted.

[wispy crest]

As I already stated earlier, there was NO profanity. Period. Try again. Nor were there insults. I don't believe saying blocking <61 players from getting to participate in events is utterly unjustifiable is an insult. It's a FACT.

[molten marlin]

Except there were insults, so keep pretending

I can see the blocked post.

[wispy crest]

Good. Then you can see nothing was false.

[neon bane]

This arc is worthless. I need 261k g6 loot just to do one chest. That will literally take me 4 weeks to do

[wispy crest]

Yes, it is. Unequivocally.

Once again we have ridiculously hard hostiles you can't kill. You can guarantee that as always there will be a $100 ship next that is useful only for them, and only if you spend yet more money on parts packs.

[lyric shoal]

It is interesting to see the feedback this arc is getting from the high g6 and g7 players.

For many months, cutoff for new content has been in the g5 levels. Most of the same complaints were made by g5 and lower g6 players at the time, and were ignored. I could kind of understand that since g5 was like a year and a half or more behind the current highest players, so probably not the biggest spenders.

Now, they have moved the pain point up to include players that spend quite regularly and quite a bit more than just the monthly passes.

It's all supposed to induce fomo so players will spend on the new stuff, but will pushing the ones who already spend generously and regularly help with overall sales or send them off a cliff?

[vernal breach]

Cliff.

[wide compass]

Am I the only one who is not getting points from the current BP event for killing hostiles? I had three ships on auto grind with over 300 kills. No points registered for the BP event.

[woven olive]

This is so rigged that out of 50 times I have got 3 Latinums all 50 times!

[ocean crypt]

whats the point to adding the outpost buffs for the outpost to the outpost , when get no more kills than without the 15 lvs of buffs, what a farce and waste of resources adding the 15 lvs, and can't get any kills more than without, a total scam, theses buffs are supposed to enhance your ships , not keep them as weak as they are without

[south blaze]

Stop it. There has been PLENTY of honest feedback posted. Including very sharp words about the reasonability of the Arc. Those did not run into the Automod you claim to have a problem with. So it stays most reasonable to suspect you did lie about "no profanities" and your text was simply going against TOS. Have you even tried to remove insults and see if it goes through?