💬-general-feedback

[quick coral]

@pulsar leaf

So... my understanding of math says that if my ability to earn is reduced by 10x, but cost is reduced by 10x, then it takes the exact same amount of effort/time to get the reward. So, how does this make things "easier"?

[wicked stratus]

That is only an improvement for late G4 and G5 players. The rest of us still put in the same amount of effort.

[thorny terrace]

It may matter to people who care about travel/repair time/cost

[covert goblet]

Traveling is hard. Full 2 min trips back and forth. Wow so much easier. Now...

[lavish spruce]

I was getting all the necessary loot in a single run already, but we shall see when I can pull next. This was a change that was absolutely UNNECESSARY!

[winter imp]

@tacit obsidian the starbase should not be accessible to non-commodore alliance members

[autumn rover]

How this all could have been avoided with just a simple update 🤔

[subtle steppe]

Cargo capacity

[quick marten]

You kill 10x less ships to get it done, save time?

[turbid yacht]

my cost for hostile exchange bundles did not change! no reduction. only reduced loot from hostiles!

[frigid perch]

Clear localisation.

[versed veldt]

It seems this is an ops level effect, 1 trip was enough to collect enough antimatter to do the full 3 chest with another 30-40k left over? 🤷‍♂️

[short lichen]

But same number of kills. That’s why the grind does not really change. 😜

[regal bramble]

Isn't going to get that pull cost back though, is it?

[humble grove]

The problem here is higher Ops couldn't carry all of the antimatter they needed for a daily pull in a single cargo hold. Lower Ops had no issue with this. Reducing all amounts by 10x simply means higher Ops can now fit they daily requirements in a single trip. Lower Ops shouldn't notice a difference.

[hardy scroll]

How about they fix all the crap that's wrong to begin with that people have been complaining about.

[dreamy fable]

This was the emergency? There's nothing more important that needs to be fixed???? @pulsar leaf @north perch <@&509691205798592532>

[devout ermine]

@pulsar leaf Reducing both hostile loot and cost equals to no benefit for the players. Your math makes no sense. How are we on the important stuff like stuck hostiles?

[quick marten]

This update (Fix) reduce the Grinding in the Game. Thank You!

[turbid yacht]

if updates need localization cache cleared to be seen, then why doesn't scopley add code to do on first startup after an update! Local device cache too.

[versed veldt]

So the 🐳 s complain and get a fix within a week, 🤷‍♂️ 😆 perhaps they should start complaining about the bugs and the laaaaggg!!!!!

Its seems this all stems down to poor planning of the new content! 🤔

[woeful rapids]

really wish people would read up even by a page before posting 😂 so much wasted space (including this comment about wasted space i guess, it's a paradox!). also it isn't just whales complaining, I've played this game for 4 years and I am 46 ops and I was affected by this issue, i don't spend much on this game

[nova sierra]

That’s a two dimensional thought process. We’re discussing it in GC but if you filled your cargo before dying (substantially so in some cases) you are far better off now. You’re also far less appealing a target to your server thieves.

[quick coral]

You kill same # of ships. 10x reduced cost, but 10x reduced loot. So, 1:1 ratio change. Only plus is no more travel time for cargo capacity. So.. that just chalks it up to no QA/QC. Again.

[frigid perch]

Completely agree, plus patch notes would be nice. The Alliance Starbase change seems stupid as well. Good old Scopely, can always rely on them to stuff up updates.

[wanton dust]

@pulsar leaf the official announcement is not correct. The hostile loot exchange was not reduced by 10x.

[jaunty turtle]

@pulsar leaf I noticed zero reduction in cost of the Bajoran faction store after this "emergency" maintenance

[nova sierra]

Clear localisation, restart game 🙂 it seems a bit “sticky” for some but it should be coming.

[molten jungle]

If you click alliance starbase, be prepared to restart the game

[native lichen]

I mean could understand it if warp times to high warp dominion space were like DS. But they're nowhere near as bad, I can get ships out to the lvl 50 dominion system in 3-4 mins, equivalent DS system would be closer to 10 mins. Its not exactly wasting that much time for the high ops players to do 2x runs.

[gritty stirrup]

For sure not upgrades by Operatives

[winter imp]

Agreed, collecting would be fine, IMO

[humble grove]

As I understand it, it was more like 7-8 runs. It adds up fast

[hollow parrot]

"To do this, we have reduced both the cost for the Hostile Exchange bundle and the loot drop from Jem'Hadar hostiles by 10x."

So, in other words... its exactly the same.

[frank forum]

and that took 3 hours??? 😂

[gritty barn]

Guys your math doesn't add up.Reducing drops by 10x cancels out reducing cost by 10x, it will take just as long to grind for the antimatter.

[frigid perch]

But it shouldn't require multiple trips due to cargo capacity.

[hidden night]

Reduce the costs sure but why reduce the loot drop so drastically?

[sweet violet]

So - those who've grinded to the max before this change, they now sit on a massive stockpile suddenly inflated in value x10..., or did you subtract a matching amount from player stockpiles to offset this potential imbalance ??

[vital wagon]

You just have to do 1 trip and not 3, 4 or even more

[halcyon coral]

But less trips back and forth for those where you fill the cargo but don't die. Which at higher levels becomes increasingly more... to point in mid 50s you need to do 6-7 runs

[quick coral]

I only had to do 1 trip before

[timid ivy]

OK so weren't happy initially but changes do seem to be ok. Just payed 9k for 3 boxes

[young ocean]

Smaller numbers makes it seem easier. Makes it look good for those that just accept the updates instead of question the scopely math

[storm dock]

For some people it changes little, the factor of the changes were identical so same number of hostiles need killing. For others its a good change, so people either arent effected or its a positive depending on ops level, ships available etc

[covert goblet]

Maybe it would have been received better of they had communicated the changes rather then let the Community guess.

Just a thought in august, Just a thought in septembre and just a thought in Octobre that communication is key.

[plain sun]

Or it means I can do 4 days worth of grinding the loot in 1 trip as opposed to 3 trips for ones days loot...

[hidden night]

So I could do 1 run with my ent and jelly, pull 200k cargo and be good for 3 days worth or so of max pulls for maybe 30 minutes worth of work. Level 40 hostiles now only drop 90 antimatter, haven't seen the costs yet cause of cooldown so unless it went from 50k down to 500 then I'll be spending more time grinding, not less.

[gritty barn]

It isn't less time to grind, dying isn't the issue.They said reducing the numbers would make it easier, I disagree with their math.Less in drops means it's the same amount of grinding.

[jaunty turtle]

3 chests cost me the same anti matter as before 🤔 verified by checking the amount in my inventory

[errant brook]

Or I can see low to no progress while wasting almost the same time for grinding. #ReduceGrindingDuration

[weary mist]

Wait. Doesn't just reducing the amounts by the same amount, not do a thing? It's the same ratio, so the amount of grinding isn't going to change, just the numbers are lower.

[clear kernel]

Scopely math

[wanton dust]

Dear Scopely,
STOP HELPING!

[lusty iris]

Need fix server 51 hostal frozen state ships, it's getting bad. I guess can not find line code error???

[young ocean]

How are you receiving 4 days worth of grind in one trip if they reduced how much you receive from hostiles by 10x?? Must’ve taken scopely math classes

[jaunty turtle]

They don't care about fixing broken hostiles. Only revenue.

[vital wagon]

I would like to something to point 2. Almost all players go for 1 strongest ship. So Battleship Strike Team were able to get La'an in SLB and now those that have a Interceptor, like me with Pilum, have to pay? I consider myself as a dolphin as well and this time I also bought the Elite Battlepass as well expecting to get Dukat at the end of the arc. Now it looks like it will cost at least an additional 200 EUR/USD. Basically that is discriminating between players due to their ship/faction choice.
I might spend some more during the SLB but then for the money you make game progress as well in station, research ships, now it is just 1 officer. And it takes away the fun to see to what tier you want to go to get enough or some more officer shards.

[pastel shale]

Getting tiresome!

• Read 4 or 5 discords and watch 3 YouTube
• Kill Swarm
• Kill Faction targets
• Kill Jem'Hadar (for Bajoran Rep)
• Kill Actian (for Mantis)
• Kill Borg
• Kill with cloaks
• Kill supply ships (Amalgam)
• Mine 3 types of materials (constantly)
• Mine Latinum
• Mine data (until a certain point)
• Level Stella and regularly scrap it
• Away Teams
• Complete Battlepass events
• Complete Ticket Events
• Complete Solo Armadas
• Complete other events
• Complete Team Armadas
• Raid Other Stations (and source them)
• Do Missions
• Support your friends/alliance/Allies
• Buy with €£$ "items you can't get elsewhere"

What is this, "The Unemployed Game"?

[clear kernel]

@tacit obsidian 1/1 = 10/10 nothing was made easier. Hard to believe they graduated from elementary school

[plain sun]

Because the cost is reduced by 90% for the exchange. I used to be able to get 170k+ normal cargo, it cost 420k for a full 3 pull. Now it costs 42k for a full pull, can get 4 days full pulls with 1 hull instead of 3 trips there for one days worth of pulls. Apparently your maths classes weren't great.

[molten shell]

I need a math check here - if you reduce both the cost and the loot by the same factor, you have done nothing to make the threshold easier...

[native lichen]

The maths is fine, the only saving here is in travel time. You still have to kill exactly the same number of hostiles assuming you have a ship with enough hull to do it in one trip. So its potentially just traded a cargo capacity issue for a hull health issue.

[orchid silo]

Communication scopley. Communication is key.

When you announce a maintenance (which you didn't do either) tell us why/what it's for so while the game is down we can share the information. It would of avoided a lot of what you are now dealing with.

[woven ibex]

It can't be the unemployed game, because you need: buy with € £ "items you can get get elsewhere"

[worthy lagoon]

@tacit obsidian ... can you please ask the Devs to stop making systems that look like this? It's almost painful to look at...

[vivid breach]

Um. @tacit obsidian If BOTH aspects were dropped by the same proportion, how is it EASIER? Easier would be dropping chest requirements and NOT dropping hostile loot by as much

It’s pretty simple

#⭐-official-announcements message

[patent jolt]

@tacit obsidian So the 33-37 actian systems are currently broken on my server. Why did I pay for this mechanic and where can I get a refund?

[pastel shale]

Depends on your country's welfare 😉

[plain sun]

Yes, that's why the announcement said in a single trip. You can still do the exact same as previous if you want for the same cost, or you can do more (assuming you have the hull)

[harsh anvil]

You really needed to do only first part and leave alone second part. Its not easier, its literally the same, just one less trip and this is bs in current situation

[jaunty turtle]

Same on my server. Numerous customer support tickets and all they can say is "being investigated"
Yet they can nerf Gaila instantly

[gritty stirrup]

That what caused the fire. Amost everyone can see the hostile reduction but not the refinery redution. Thats why any company put a release not.

[worthy lagoon]

It's not about making it easier to refine a full pull. What's easier is that higher ops players do not have to make as many trips (some 8-10 trips) just to earn enough loot for a full pull. From my understanding, higher ops players had to make multiple trips to Jem'Hadar space just to pull in enough loot for a daily full pull (which is what game designers suggest doing). Now they can do the same refine, but not waste time warping and going OPC so often.

This is what I was told. We'll see if this fixes the problem, or makes things worse. Either way, it's a terrible grind and my wife hates how much I play.

[potent silo]

Cost had been dropped to be adjusted to new hostile loot

[ripe thicket]

Couldn't fix the dead ships?

[main river]

You missed Territory Defence. Your own and any ally that you also support.

[pastel shale]

You're 100% correct! Sadly I belive I missed even more ... 🤬

[lost forge]

It is not easier for everyone. We not that special. It is easier for the whales. They don’t want to make 3 or 4 trips with full cargo someone can take. They want one trip. Like the new skin. They don’t want small players blowing up their precious miners. This is a whale update. Did they fix anything that was an issue for everyone, like lag or stuck hostiles? It was an update to kiss 💋 🐳 🐎

[gritty stirrup]

Apex FREE!

[wet flicker]

@twilit mango @tacit obsidian SO you've reduced the loot requirements AND the loot drops by 10x to make it easier for us.... Who TF is you're accountant?

[jovial edge]

@tacit obsidian why are they tinkering with a new grind that wasn’t really broken instead of fixing one (Actian) that has been broken since it’s inception, and is only getting worse? And many of us PAID for the mantis?!?

[hidden night]

I have no issues with the refinery requirements being dropped, I'm good with that, but with another constant daily grind on top of the constant daily grind we already have, that same 200k cargo is going to take me 4 or 5 times as long to pull now, great, that let's me have 40 days worth of max pulls, assuming 5k per max, but even getting 5k is taking longer and doing the minimum required is a waste of time and effort, same with the amalgam, ive got 3 months worth of pulls stashed, waiting for them to nerf that next. I understand QoL improvements for higher ops players, I'm getting ready to push into 40s so I'm glad it'll be addressed before I get there but there had to have been a better way to do this. And again it was donenwith ZERO communication. That's my biggest problem with this. I'd happily have spent a couple hulls yesterday banking antimatter if I'd know this was coming.

[lusty iris]

FYI your update did not fix anything but piss off customer/ players.

[patent jolt]

I'm serious, I want a refund for purchasing this Mantis. Your broken game made it so that we cannot collect the required loot in a reasonable amount of time

[weak grove]

alliance mine collecting is not working.

[jaunty turtle]

I'm 100% in agreeance

[molten shell]

Same here

[wet flicker]

If you want to improve the game how about adding some level 35 & 37 borgs to the game? You've added to the number of daily grinds, now how about making them go a little quicker? Borg (takes too long no updates in forever), Mantis (tons of broken ships in systems), Stella (needs to speed up rate of refines), Bajoran (reducing both the cost and payout be the same amount nulls the benefit), Augment (no change in forever, how about increasing the indie credits?)

[hidden night]

Oh wow, yeah thats insane. Seems to be the pattern lately of nothing being thought through before they do it. As Ian Malcom said, too busy doing to stop and ask if they should.

[heavy geyser]

Work smarter, not harder

[wicked stratus]

They reduced the refinery cost, but the real issue here is a complete lack of transparency and also not thinking about how the game actually works instead of how it is supposed to work.

[willow hull]

@tacit obsidian good god in the foothills, what’ve y’all done?! If it took too much time to get what you needed to refine, why would you decrease the refinery requirements AND the loot drop by the same amount?! You’ve done the exact opposite of make things easier: you’ve not changed a thing except how much tritanium we’re spending on repairs! If you decreased the required loot by 10, then you should’ve only decreased the loot drop by 5 or so, not by the same number

[vivid breach]

Yeah. Pretty much down to a day a week for each aspect. Too much to do

[worthy lagoon]

Fine with me really. I mean... the more stuff we need to do to progress, the less I play. If I had to guess, I'll be retired before the end of the Calendar Year. Basically, I want to get to 42, build a Valdore then walk off into the sunset.

[lunar falcon]

There's a bug in #⭐-official-announcements: if you reduce loot and cost by the same amount, there's absolutely no benefit.

[wicked stratus]

The benefit was for G5 players who were having to make 5 or 6 trips because cargo doesn't scale up that much with ship strength.

[heavy geyser]

I wonder if Scopley listens too much.

[willow hull]

I wonder at this point if scopely was only ever just a bunch of Tribbles bouncing up and down on keyboards, but they’ve gotten so fat and pregnant and reproduced so much, that there’s too many on the keyboards, writing glitches and bugs and bad updates into the game

[lunar falcon]

Anyway, in relation you still need the same amount. Hence you have no benefit.

[woeful nymph]

The ratio is the same. If you were filling the cargo before, this is faster as it requires you to spend less time waiting on warping to and from the system you were farming in. This is good for anyone who were filling their cargo and had to make multiple trips....If you don't need to fill your cargo....you don't have to.

[wicked stratus]

It was a missed opportunity to reduce grind time for the loop. A lack of communication is what got all the pitchforks raised.

[sullen matrix]

If you need to kill the same amount of hostiles for the same amount of reward, how did it change your repair bill? Everything just remains the same, just no more multiple hauls and not as much OPC

[half ravine]

Where are the patch notes for today’s update? If all that happened is both cost and loot were dropped at the same proportions, that maintenance did nothing.

[heavy geyser]

None posted that I can find

[sacred tulip]

Many petitions for divorce cite lack of communication as a major reason.

[cyan portal]

So...100/1000...if you decrease both numbers by a factor of 10...is 10/100 which is...GASP the same! Because math

[half ravine]

Seems comprehension of math and the project management triangle is not a strong suit

[willow hull]

Let’s stop defending them, Matt. They decreased the loot and the loot:chest ratio by the same exact number, which did absolutely nothing to help us. The reason they did it at all was because it took forever to farm enough loot to get the chests. They needed to decrease the loot:chest amount, but they needed to keep the loot gained from victory higher than the expenditure

[rough belfry]

@tacit obsidian in Server 65 all the apex hostiles are stuck in the 32, 34, 35, 36, and 37 systems. On top of the random chrysalis hostiles being stuck.

This makes the Mantis grind impossible. This is paid for content and it needs to be fixed now. Scopely is ripping us off with this broken game

[cyan portal]

Congrats scopely you discovered how to simplify fractions

[gleaming wedge]

Communication communication communication. Release notes need to be available before the update goes out. We do that for our customers. People need to understand what's going to change before you spring it on them.

[zinc swan]

Please fix stuck hostiles and Plasma collecting.

Please revert alliance Starbase building management to commodore+!

I will gladly accept a short daily maintenance if it resolves stuck hostiles!

[woven ibex]

Stay calm! The loop will decrease! Will create a premium research to increase the loot by 100% for only $99.

[native lichen]

That was last months prices, this month its a 5 tier research with 20% per tier at $99 at time. 😜

[sullen matrix]

Speak for yourself, i am happy i dont need 2 Trips anymore and am less prone to OPC attacks. Just because you see no point in it doesnt mean that there isnt one for others

[jaunty turtle]

I've submitted numerous tickets for my server, so have others.
Customer support simply doesn't care, they got their money out of us.

[woeful veldt]

@tacit obsidian can we please return to the point when only admiral and commodore can build modules in the station?

[narrow ether]

@tacit obsidian can we please return to the point when only admiral and commodore can build modules in the station?

Times *10000000000. Or did you guys open up territory services for operatives to spend alliance RSS on too?????

Unbelievable. I want a refund

[raven juniper]

@tacit obsidian Hello... After today's update of the Android version, all missions in German-speaking countries are now in English and not in German.
Can you please fix this? Thank you

[chrome vortex]

Because of maintenance 800B Trit of a raid was left. Will there be a chest ? Regarding how great the charges are 💩 : Mantis cannot tell how much cool down, time in game not really reduced, dead ships still there.... etc

[worn canyon]

The red counter fills if u watch it Husky ugly deal but does show time left

[rigid hamlet]

Don't know if this was touched on, but with the hostiles dropping less loot, the amount needed for the chest pulls is drastically lowered too. 3 chest pull was about 16kish

[sly tree]

What do the new auto defense skins do? Yet another thing Scopely didn’t communicate. I can’t even click on them in refit menu to get more info.

[devout ermine]

Not really getting the part of how many dimensions I should be thinking in, but I still need three trips for daily full pull. It hasn’t made anything easier. Maybe a bit for some, but I really don’t see a reason for shutting down the servers for this unannounced, while there are so many bigger issues with this game.

[solid jay]

I don't know what yall did but the game is so buggy I have to stop playing.

[jade patio]

@tacit obsidian Is that a typo in the announcement? If you nerf both the bundle cost and the drop amount by the exact same factor, how does that actually change anything (apart from the number totals)? Why change both? Smells of fish.

[weary niche]

grind time was also reduced

[nova sierra]

only for the players that needed to do more than one trip due to cargo size, they now need less travel time, the number of hostiles you need to kill to obtain sufficient loot to open the chest remain the same

[tawdry swift]

I wish to apologize to scopley for my earlier comments, I'm a big man and can admit when I'm wrong. On another note some communication would have prevented my and others outrage.

[timid thistle]

Remember they said the biggest complaint was whales needed to make too many trips

[jade patio]

So, the whales get a quick fix, and the rest of us get all our long standing issues on the “Ignore Forever” list. Same old Scopely.

[lilac yew]

you get what you pay for... in our case it seems to be nothing... but thats ok, when we leave, the whales leave too

[brisk glacier]

Is it just me or can anyone in an alliance now make changes to starbase construction?

[craggy saddle]

Anyone except agents

[sullen matrix]

Its now Premiers+

[tired shoal]

same in French

[chrome vortex]

The only logical reason for the change is arc not generating $$$$. Notice they didn't fix bugs 👀.

[rough notch]

So they dropped cost on bajorin badges by x10....but also loot you get from JH ships by x10.....how is that supposed to help?

[tacit jay]

Why did you open up starbase controls to the majority of players, now we risk people spending resources when we're trying to be strategic on upgrades via our commodores

[sinful walrus]

Because they realised they might have gotten it right the first time and that sets a dangerous precedent.

[livid stone]

Another new bug for me anyway, the mission indicators over systems in the map dont go away now when I complete the mission there. Just started this update, tested with multiple missions.

[narrow ether]

We had an operative blow through days worth of alliance speed-ups because he thought they were his individual items. This was an incredibly ill-advised change. Change it back.

Allow Operatives+ to collect Starbase RSS, but for heaven's sake. You set a precedent by restricting the activation of territory services to Comms+, assuming because players can spend real money on those materials required. The same thing applies here.

[hardy scroll]

@tacit obsidian anyone feel like explaining the additional items added to the game such as the new ship abilities in the hangar?

[waxen kite]

no crystal in ticket events???? wtf

[nova sierra]

Here are some ticketed events to replace the pvp event we messed up. Please don’t mind that we have also messed up these ticketed events….

[craggy egret]

Dear scopely. We all know you are terrible at math. Reducing both the cost AND the loot drops for bajoran faction by the SAME AMOUNT does literally nothing to solve the grind.

[hardy bane]

It means you can get more pulls on a full cargo hold, and more without going OPC. Generally a win.

[earnest granite]

It does for people who needed more than one trip due to cargo size constraints

[hardy bane]

Anyone else having trouble harvesting from the Starbase? It shows it collecting, but if I go out and return, it's full again and I can collect again. Doesn't seem to be counting.

[weak grove]

yes we have. it's ridiculous

[cyan portal]

Multiple folks can't send out ships or recall now...cool...great update

[craggy egret]

No it doesn’t. It changes literally nothing. The grind is exactly the same as it was before. Filling cargo hold was never an issue, it took too long before, takes just as long now for the same return. Worse it takes 10x longer if you want to fill cargo.

[hidden night]

So yeah, I went from 140k loot pull with hull left over to 13k loot pull and go boom, sounds like a great update scopley. Refinery might be cheaper but the loot change is a joke, even with the first level of bajoran favors, so basically I pulled 9k raw loot, 13.2k with the favor. Still only amounts to 2 days of max pulls so in that respect nothing has changed but my God the optics of it are horrible.

[hardy bane]

Not saying less grinding wouldn't be better, but some players were filling up their cargo without getting enough to pull, and spending a lot of time back in forth in warp. This addresses that.

[supple thistle]

Feedback? The lag you always blame on us is making this unplayable and since this update even worse. Did you fix any bugs?

[fallow breach]

I had started to use a 3 hour 150% Gas Mining Exocomp and went back to my base to unload and go to another location for more gas and the dumb maintenance kicked in, so I lost the opportunity to use most of it.

[zinc swan]

Please fix stuck hostiles!

Please fix Starbase plasma collection!

Please revert alliance Starbase building management to commodore+!

I will gladly accept a short daily maintenance if it resolves stuck hostiles!

[hardy scroll]

It's 1 exocomp when other are having much more detrimental issues affecting their entire server.

[native adder]

Absolutely disgusted that we’ve had 3 hours of maintenance to make unwanted/unnecessary changes and fix none of the bugs as far as we can tell. Read the room Scopely, you’re doing nothing but further alienating your players!!

[alpine moat]

It doesn’t………fix was totally useless in my eyes…now I need to grind more and take time from my real life @tacit obsidian……GO BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS…….IDJUTS

[earnest granite]

Grind is much shorter for people who needed more than one cargo hold for a full pull.
I was just on the edge of that, needing 2.
Higher ops players (50+) needed way more.
So for anyone 46+ this is an improvement, for anyone below it has no detrimental effect whatsoever.

[random lintel]

I'm 46 and this slightly helps me. Of course I would love smaller costs, but this is a small QOL improvement. I don't get how people think this is somehow bad. It's neutral at worst.

Real take away is Scopely needs better patch notes.

[hidden night]

I would argue otherwise, giving me the option now to stock up for the future when I know pull costs are going to increase isn't a bad thing. The refinery change is great for those that need it but I don't need another swarm daily when I could do it once a week and be perfectly happy. I basically gave up on the mantis cause all the systems are broken one way or another. Borg takes too dang long as it is now so if they wanna update that are they going to follow the same model? Make the pulls cheaper and drop the loot as well? As with everything they've tried to fix lately it's always a half baked idea that's never thought all the way through, reduce the refinery costs was all they had to do, even cut it in half would have been better than this.

[earnest granite]

But this doesn't change anything about that....

[lethal veldt]

Scopely would fail my kid's 4th grade math review.

Problem: refinery requires too much per pull

Scopely: let's reduce the refinery cost.....AND the drop rate

Reducing the numerator and the denominator does jack squat

Meanwhile every acatian interceptor up to lv40 is broken but you leave that be because that would require maintenance...oh wait

Add in the $600 pvp officer bait/switch and it's probably time to stop throwing good money after bad at scopely and their garbage coding/cs

[earnest granite]

The change was to help those that needed multiple cargo holds worth of antimatter. For those it is actually an improvement. For anyone else it is just as easy as before.

[hardy bane]

Here's DJz summary, from his server. Sums it up pretty well. #704683427739467836 message

[untold orbit]

It's also less chance to go OPC and lose a lot of loot, which i hate since most my antimatter came from hunting

[hidden night]

I agree that conceptually nothing has changed here in terms of what I can pull and how many pulls I can get in the refinery but it's yet another example of poor planning and execution. The benefits of the bajoran faction are huge, I bought the parsteel efficiency one and boom saved me half a billion on my ops 40 jump, thats worth the effort and thats at tier 1. As we open up that faction we know theres more to come, this has great potential and speeding thing up wouldn't be a bad thing but they really if anything slowed things down. It took me 15 minutes yesterday to fill my ent on 42-45s, this morning it took me almost half an hour to bring home less than 10% of what I pulled yesterday, yes i can still max pull but its a joke that my grind time almost doubles when the daily grinds are already ridiculous. And yes it is a qol improvement for higher level players, I won't dispute that and it's something that is sorely needed in other aspects of the game as well but saying it's just as easy or nothing has changed is wrong, there's a huge difference between repairing half a hull and a full hull, maybe not at G3 but in G4 or G5 were talking huge sums, so something that was designed to help now just becomes another way to pull resources out of the game and push spending which pretty much sums up the last 6 months. No point beating this dead horse anymore, it's starting to get sticky.

[tender cloud]

The real scary bit is between broken content like the Manti$ and now randomly applied changes, it becomes harder and harder to trust Scopely with our money. I’m no longer willing to trust that new content will work, be valuable, or even still be in the game next week. When you snap your fingers and pull officers, change loot tables, and still haven’t fixed content that never functioned in the first place it erodes credibility. Good content could be released but I’m not going to gamble that it works. I’m not going to pay to beta test your products.

What reason do we have to trust Scopely with our money, time, and attention?

[quick coral]

How my graphics have looked since the patch update this morning.

[craggy saddle]

Do you happen to be in new calgary system?

[tribal girder]

I totally agree. I have lost trust in Scopely. Bad thing is Scopley will not listen to us. @tacit obsidian

[waxen kite]

so, are people have to grind longer now or not? i have surplus for a day or two so aint affected with it yet.

[sullen matrix]

no

[shy lake]

I could not agree more 👍

[quick coral]

Yes. Why?

[craggy saddle]

New calgary is known to be broken, not just since the update 😅
Doesnt make it any better, I know

[wicked heath]

@tacit obsidian

[nova sierra]

Quite disgusting how we finally had a (yet another) new loop that was relatively easy to daily complete and you wrecked that too. Bunch of <insert your favorite curse word> ****.

At least you didn't come up with five new currencies while wrecking a nice loop.

[frigid patrol]

Don't give them ideas 😆

[fringe drum]

@tacit obsidian you claim play stfc, so the continual adding to the grind, why do you think so many players burn out. Reducing the grind and increasing loot or a multiplier for whatever grind . Actions speaks louder than words yet to see this !!!

[valid chasm]

Do Apex hostiles work anywhere any more? Anywhere at all?

[nova sierra]

My guess would be everything that was broken still is broken. But! They did manage to wreck other stuff in the process of fixing nothing.

[west atlas]

I'm like the puppy but no chain!

[pine apex]

we`ve not had that issue with the apex hostiles yet on our server

[valid chasm]

Give it time 😅

[nova sierra]

Scopley like

[lime vault]

@tacit obsidian I did the update. I can't see any "easier" deal for Bajorans. You actually only get a tenth out of the fights. But the prices have remained the same. Sounds like a bad inflation rate.

[vague ridge]

I don't see a compensation chest for the unannounced maintenance we had this morning, I think its 💩💩

[steep socket]

Thank you scopely for now making sure we as leaders make everyone agents so they dont screw up something on the starbase that is planned. Whose bright idea was this… what you should have given was the ability to click on the stuff being mined to accept it

[zinc swan]

Please fix stuck hostiles and Plasma collecting.

Please revert alliance Starbase building management to commodore+!

I will gladly accept a short daily maintenance if it resolves stuck hostiles!

[tardy finch]

The difference between decreasing loot from bajoran hostiles and the increase of packs and all others are TO big, 90% decrease and 90% increase for all other stuff is really insane and a huge grinding .

10 or 20% decrease was better.
Now you have to work harder to get the hostile badge so you can increase the loot.

Please change the percentage for the bajorans to 70/80%

[sharp escarp]

Can we PLEASE get some better shields??? Or at least a proper warning, before you block us from setting a shield due to unannounced maintenance!!
I was back from work only 5 min before your 8h shield went down. Lucky me, it was a short workday. I could just as easy had been a 9h+ day, in which case i would have been raided. 🤬
You need to warn us at least the day before, and if that's not possible, give us a freaking 12h shield. Some people actually have to work, you know. 8h is 💩

[ebon cedar]

Did scopely just broke the Cerritos?

[wary path]

Tiibeti mastif 🥰

[sharp island]

fix kira

[ripe shore]

This is so disappointing. I would like to applaud Scopely for fixing something in favor of players, but if you look at this discord over the last week there are players who are miserable because of so many different, serious issues, but I never once saw someone complain about warping too many times. So it smacks of an issue that one or two bigs had, people who Scopely listens to in their secret place. Which is fine, but did that warrant a surprise maintenance shut down? You couldn't have given people a day's warning? And if you were springing surprise maintenance on us, could you not also have done something about the multiple complaints about the entire mantis experience? From dead apex ships to the unreasonable grind? Everyone who has a mantis has been complaining. Why isn't a solution for those problems as urgent as having to warp too many times? And if you are going to make a huge change to the starbase functionality, maybe, just maybe, consider letting players know? How was it an urgent matter to give the entire team the ability to screw up everyone's plans for their starbase? I'm thinking Scopely thought we would be grateful for the change, but it is not difficult to see why people are just completely frustrated and not excited about something that fixes a problem most of us did not have.

[cerulean ruin]

Why is the store more expensive please?

[craggy saddle]

Are you on an Apple device? If so: Thats due to Apple tax. Webstore still has original prices 🙂

[cerulean ruin]

It change with update now

[fallen epoch]

It depends some people it changed last week, some people it was this week. Just Apple logic

[cerulean ruin]

20% more?

[silk ginkgo]

I am saying it again. Server 65 needs new life. Merge us already.

[quick cape]

Seems cool

Yes, thats Apple. Buy from the store online on the games website

[cerulean ruin]

Ah ok on the site its normal prices

[quasi wren]

Sorry Scopely but that’s a failure on that patch update dealing with the jenhadar. What’s a waist of game time is needing to do 2 Stella runs full cargo to do ONE refine on keys. Cargo with La’an is 185. Need 300 for a refine. How about either lower the refine or up the bloody cargo hold. Ops 39 and absolutely no change for me dealing with jemhadar. Before is was getting about 80k loot and refine was 51k. Now I get 8k and refine is 5100. If you wanted to help those players that complained about warp time and such. Should of lowered the refine by 30-40%.

[heavy geyser]

This antimatter change is awesome. I've now got a month's worth of exchanges without having to do any more work

[hoary blade]

so feed back don't do a last min maintenance with our informing people don't just add rank privilege's to ranks without feed back and at least inform us of those changes. and don't add stuff with out fixing what's broken!! broken fis is the most important aspect.. we have to much broken to the point cant even plat parts of the game @tacit obsidian

[acoustic cloud]

@tacit obsidian

Why did the make the Jem Haddar Garbage worse?
You reduced the loot by 10x?

I'm out, scopely is garbage

[mossy glacier]

Worst. Idea. Ever.

[bronze mortar]

Since the last update I’m not able to leave this scan view anymore, I either have to attack or restart the game

[smoky bobcat]

@tacit obsidian @north perch @crisp dome @torn saffron So what was the update for last night. Seems like it was there to break the game again. Hitting the new ships can’t fill cargo. Per run it’s getting me 20k. Am I still gonna need the 860 K to refine every day. How is that possible. And you fix nothing else in the game. This is serious BS.

[heavy geyser]

That's not a new bug. Been happening intermittently for a while

[icy summit]

Tap your name, to open your profile and then close it again. That should re-enable the back button.

[fallen epoch]

#⭐-official-announcements

[fallen epoch]

Check #⭐-official-announcements

[acoustic cloud]

No, the announcement said that Commanders would be able to get enough in a single trip for their refinery pulls
This did not accomplish that result, it just broke it

[fallen epoch]

You missed the point. The idea is that it’s more likely do be done in 1. If you can’t fill your cargo to begin with then this doesn’t affect you. The change is for those that max their cargo out before they die and have to keep warping in and out, so instead of doing it repeatedly they can do it instead in 1 run maybe 2

Otherwise it’s like 5+

[hallow marten]

I get about 90%-95% less antimatter now.

[pure mango]

Please reverse the Operators getting Starbase privileges. What's the point?

[potent silo]

The chest cost was adjusted, there no nerf at all

[merry hornet]

The person who thought this was a good idea does not play the game at all.

[hoary lynx]

@tacit obsidian <@&509690795536941056> The decision to have Operative and above be allowed to build/speed up modules on the starbase is HORRIBLE. Please undo this change and let only Commodores or above have this ability. There are too many cooks in the kitchen who are doing things and wrecking the alliance plan. We cannot effectively communicate with everyone to NOT screw with the starbase builds in a dozen languages.

Also, this change has completely eliminated our ability to collect plasma whatsoever.

[obtuse swallow]

I've gone from being able to do my max run (92k) in 2 runs to having to do... 6+ at least. This has made the Bajorian faction massively less appealing. I have to agree, this has broken this mechanic rather than helping at all. 🤷‍♂️

[sullen pier]

@potent silo @tacit obsidian Any chance you could try getting it passed up that 117,39 and 192 have not received the Infinite Exclusions chest for being left out of the last run? I know its contents are horribly small but our subspace relay buildings are just falling further and further behind as it is.
Cheers

[earnest granite]

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
You only need 9.2k now

[bronze mortar]

That doesn’t solve anything, still have to restart

[nimble rover]

Any one else Cerritos not able to boost other players?

[tacit obsidian]

Happy to ask on the status of this!

[spare vapor]

@tacit obsidian I know it's wishful thinking, but i'd really love not to have to manage so many new currencies and so many keep coming...it's just making everything kind of a boring grind

[heavy geyser]

Surprised we've not gotten an Apology Chest yet

[obtuse swallow]

"Reduced both the cost for the Hostile Exchange bundle and the loot drop from Jem’Hadar hostiles by 10x." - so you're saying that's actually "TO 10%" ?

[sullen pier]

Thanks mate 👍

[earnest granite]

Yes. Cost and income have been reduced at equal ratio.

[acoustic cloud]

I think that might be what you intended, but you got the math wrong.

The loot drop was -15x instead of -10x

[nimble rover]

@tacit obsidian : will we be getting the support another player button back for the Cerritos anytime soon??

[fallen epoch]

Yep both the faction store and the hostiles hugs been reduced by 90% it’s so you can fill your cargo up more in 1 trip, since warp ship cargo is limited

[fallen epoch]

She didn’t get the maths wrong. She is just repeating the logic of the QOL change. Nothing has been touched except both faction store exchange and hostiles loot have been reduced by 90%

[obtuse swallow]

"both faction store and hostiles have been reduced by 90%" - And in so many words you have explained it better than any patchnotes so far.. 👏 👏 🤦‍♂️

[fallen epoch]

10=10
1=1
Same proportion different numbers

[fallen epoch]

Is that supposed to be sarcasm?

[acoustic cloud]

I hear you that's what the release said, but that's not what the actual cost reductions were....

The Faction store is at about 15% of original cost (Ops35), and the loot drop is around 7% (for Lvl 37-39 hostiles)

So this change made it 2x worse of a grind

[fallen epoch]

Where are you getting these numbers from?

[sacred garden]

Did not get the 20 free tickets chest despite me updating my game

[fallen epoch]

The faction store is 10% of the value

Hostiles is slightly variable due to not every drop being exactly the same but that’s the same as it was yesterday and it is also 10%

[worthy lagoon]

@tacit obsidian .. I'll tell you, this... This is NOT an Improvement. No member of my Alliance, below the rank of Commodore, said.. "man, I wish I could do ASB upgrades."

I'll tell you now.. if anyone below a commodore does mess with the ASB.. they WILL BE demoted to an Agent

Alliance leadership should be the ones planning and executing these upgrades.

Last thing we need is some disgruntled member blowing through all our speed ups just before dropping tags.

CHANGE THIS BACK.

[obtuse swallow]

Nope, praise. Thank you. 👍

[fallen epoch]

Sorry it’s hard to tell over all the different messages. This is very appreciated thank you 🙏❤️

[unique forge]

Reducing the cost of the pull is a plus, reducing the loot is a negative. I found my grind was longer today than it was yesterday to garner an equivalent amount of antimatter for the 3 chest pull.

[acoustic cloud]

My faction store cost went from 28,000 to 3,380

[fallen epoch]

🤔 got screenshots?

[dim mulch]

Reducing the loot drop makes it worse than it was before! No real improvement made. ...and as an added bonus our alliance starbases are messed up!

Not only unannounced downtime, but made things worse NOT better.

[fallen epoch]

The faction store was reduced by the same amount as the hostiles

[sacred garden]

We’re my damn free 20 tickets that I’m supposed to be getting today scopley. I received no ticket chest in the gift section.!!!!! My game is fully up to date. You said today in announcement that there supposed to be one yet I never gotten one.

[tacit obsidian]

There should be no difference in the amount of hostiles needed to complete the turn ins. The reason the change was made was to help those at high ops levels because they were running out of cargo space and had to make multiple trips to finish

If this isn't the case, let me know.

[shut yacht]

The amount of people dissatisfied with the loot & bundle cost reduction while everything else is pretty much the same is baffling. I, for one, am enjoying the changes to the Jem'Hadar hostiles and Bajoran store — takes me 1 trip instead of 5 now while everything else stays the same. And as a bonus I do have a small but nice stash of loot for a couple of days 🙂 So definitely a win! So thanks for that.

[unique forge]

I’m being very clear my grind time was longer than before the fix to get the same amount of loot to do the max 3 chest pull. On top of that I worked very hard and did my pull strategically so I would get the Prophets Prize Favour. This has now been devalued

[tacit obsidian]

what ops level are you if you don't mind me asking/what hostiles were you hitting

And how much did you get on average per hostile

[balmy kernel]

Poor communication. If this change was properly communicated beforehand this would not be a problem. But Scopely didn't. If everyone knew the decrease in Loot corresponded with a decrease in required Loot per pack It would have gone way smoother. Now Scopely left the community to theorize and that is what you get.

[dim mulch]

Going from being able to fill cargo hold, to needing to make more repairs is not an improvement.

[tacit obsidian]

Filling your cargo before got you the same amount of redeems as filling a fraction of your cargo now

Ships can now stay in the space longer to collect more material for turn ins now than before if Commanders choose

[random lintel]

The cargo change was totally fine. People don't understand basic math. What I don't like as a commendore in an alliance is this: "Commanders Operative and above can now collect resources and build structures for Alliance Starbases" whyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[dim mulch]

Does not change that the overall effect is negative. I'm more perturbed by things breaking!

Now our starbases won't collect plasma.
We lost time in game, which means we lost event points.
We were not able to plan around the downtime.
And we should not have to demote people! If you want to include more in the starbase mechanics premiere, not operative!

[woeful nymph]

100%. People that have no idea how things work will blow through the speedups for the Starbase. Thankfully we heard about this from Ultimate DJz and demoted everyone to agent. Reverse the Starbase build change

[feral holly]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/509685973966389258/1029498681558319154/Screenshot_20221011-165427.png

Please move from Improvement category to the Shenanigans category where it belongs

[rich cypress]

But the new patch successfully stopped everyone from complaining about Gul Dukat sourcing.

[limber spire]

@tacit obsidian why Bring in new shipskins or crash the Starbase?

The priority should bei on fix the Bugs scopely implemented over the years NOW
aren't you get Mad about the last two month?

[pure fern]

Yes bring hostile loot x10 up again, I want 1 trip fast max load, I hunted at 45 system and could full load my kelvin in about 20mins. Now I need hunt lower hostiles what the...

• No if loot dropped my ship is dead and cargo only 10% full it takes 10 trips to 45 system to get same amount cargo. Instead do it so that reduce costs but 1/3 or 2/3 factor and keep the way it was before the loot

[earnest granite]

If you needed 1. Trip before you still only need 1

[sacred garden]

The starbase was fine how it originally was. We’re everyone collecting for it. As for building it and speeding it up it was fine before . Though if want to change it give admril the ability to allow or deny people regardless of the alliance ranking this way admril has more say in who in alliance can preform upgrades and speedups so he/she can limit number who actually can do things otherwise theiir forced to demote people that might wind up to some friction in alliances.

[rich cypress]

The changes to the jem’hadar hostiles makes the grind seem worse… but I’m not engaging with the mantis grind anymore due to the stuck apex hostiles and the lack of any entertaining arc events reduces my screen time… so Yay! Good job 👍

[fallen epoch]

What server you on?

[pure fern]

Yes this update forked hostiles so that if I want max load I need reduce atleast 5 level hostile levels to grind 1h, before I could 1 run at my lvl hostiles and gain full load that was just about right, but the store prizes was too high and needed 3 trips anyway or more.

[shut yacht]

But you (most likely) don't need to fill your cargo anymore. The changes made to the loot & cost were all relative, all loot bonuses still apply to the same degree etc. It should net you exactly the same outcome as before.

[rich cypress]

Server 16

[dim mulch]

I get that the loot drop decreased and the value increased making it so there was no true change... however, there were side-effects that are negative!
Hence, overall there was no improvement, only made things worse. Stop breaking things. Start to actually fix things. I still have an open ticket from Thursday that hasn't been responded to since Friday, and now will get even more lost under the pile of new issues streaming in.

I won't be sitting here, waiting 5 minutes to comment further.
Last few months of this game have not been something to keep people interested, more like pushing them away.

Have a good day, I'm not going to continue with this exercise in insanity.

[pure fern]

Yes but my point here is that they did not make things any better for time usage that you need! You still need to hunt hostiles more for those 3 trips before or 7 because they lesses loot by same factor than shop prices. Better way would have been lessening shop prizes and keep same way hostiles. I still need the time for 3 run or 7 run grinding what I really dont want. Its 1 trip and dayly task done.

[limber spire]

If you Seen this man in your programmers Team you should quit him

[molten jungle]

@tacit obsidian - This needs to be rolled back
"Improvement" - Commanders Operative and above can now collect resources and build structures for Alliance Starbases
Most alliances' solution - Demote everyone down to Agent.

Collect resources is fine, but someone who doesn't know what they're doing can squander module building related resources.

[pure fern]

They understood with franklin a that give x3 points for daylies so one trip and daylies are done for me. Why they still want me to do the 7 run time to hunt enough loot? Even stella can be done in one trip and swarms, well probes need 2 trips, now cardassian 7x 30 kills in one trip. And I cant do 7x vs 44-46 hostiles as they will kill me on 1x. Thus I need to do lower hostiles that dont count in ticket events as good as 46s and grind lesser loot per hostile meaning I need 7x 50 hostiles to full carco and hit 3th button. The striking matter what we are discussing here is the amount of grind they want us grind cardassians. Its rediggiles.

[grave epoch]

👆👆👆👆👆🧐

[wintry wasp]

The changes were all negative. Yuk! Everyone is demoted. And now I can’t fill cargo with one trip unless I go to a lower system and it takes FOREVER!

[limber spire]

And again No Response from @tacit obsidian

[crude sandal]

But you don't need to fill cargo?

[wintry wasp]

Scopely fix mantis space so the ships spawn correctly. Get rid of the solo armadas or change it drastically. Ugg your killing our game and making people quit. Also 1 week of armadas? Oh wait 2 weeks or is it 3? We are sick of them. Don’t be greedy let us play the game . Lastly how many currencies do you need in the game? Consolidating them and getting rid of some of our old ones from past arcs would prob help the lag problem.

[pure fern]

Explain me again, shop prizes for on run cargo, needed 3 full cargos to hit 2nd exchange, If you reduce 90% I still need 3 trips get enough cargo for 2nd bexchange button?

[random lintel]

I think the whole point is you don't fill cargo? That's kinda the whole point? Maybe they should give us cargo 1k holds so we can always fill them up.

This game has so may bugs. Complain about the real ones and not these. The mantis space is horrible right now like you said. My client crashes 20 times a day. and soooo many more.

Also, solo madas are awesome

[wintry wasp]

You do to max pull…. Like tons of loads now. Before I could max pull with 3 loads on my lvl 49

[feral holly]

You may not need to fill cargo but it still feels like a wasted trip when you don't

[pure fern]

Can someone explaine the math in great detail if both loot and expensive shop prized are reduce to 1/10. SO I could get 3 trips full loads vs 44-46 on kelvin before for 2nd button. HOw would this change the time needed to hit 2nd button now? Thi math dont reduce the trip amounts as hostiles kill me in same amount. SO I still need the 3 trips for 2nd button or is my engineer math wrong? As you havent reduced hostiles strenght so they kill as fast as before.

[wintry wasp]

I don’t know what game your playing but I’d love to send you screen shots of how many hits and how much I get now. Then max pull amounts.

[crude sandal]

You know they reduced the amount to pull as well, right?

[random lintel]

Before update my valdore had 100k cargo. I could fill it up with 60% hull left. Now I can fill 26k cargo of it and do my triple pull daily in 1 trip. This update saved me 2 round trips of warping.

I really don't understand why people are upset about this. It hurts nothing and helps a little. number of reds you have to hit did not change.

[pure fern]

This is what Im afrite since the number of hostiles is way too much, after scout run now will test the changes and belive me will do a video if I dont like the update.

[cursive snow]

Hurts or kills opc hunting

[haughty bison]

@tacit obsidian Any idea on when the fix for regular transports in the capital systems? Para Bellum is tomorrow.....

[random lintel]

Good! No one wants to spend 20 minutes grinding these out and getting them taken

[pure fern]

For future you could ask community if you about add content on grinding or mining. Some of us been here 4 years. We like your suportes and you make changes that dont we community dont like is like you striking on your backbone.

[cursive snow]

Honey Badger takes what it wants

[wintry wasp]

@random lintel please look at others discord about all the armada evens and their feeling abt all armadas including solo armadas. People, tons of people on our discord including whales are talking abt having their accounts archived. Because we are sick of pay for play events. One start per day of the solo armadas doesn’t even get some to the bottom tier of the event. So you have more and more players that are skipping events and just doing dailies. If it happens enough then we will start to have dead or dying servers. But hay if in the end that’s what Scopely wants then that’s what they will get. Remember whales need krill to feed on or they don’t have a game either.

[devout ermine]

@tacit obsidian how is removing timers for ship cooldowns an improvement? We now have to select the ship to make a guess on what time in the cooldown is left. How is giving everyone starbase build rights an improvement?

When are stuck hostiles fixed? When are hostiles in capital systems fixed? There are so many issues in this game. Why is so much time wasted on “improvements” we don’t want?

[pure fern]

For this I have suggested many times lessening prices from 100€ to 20€ and add minipayments for officer shards, ship blueprints and parts from 1€ to 5€ so that for longevity of game and scopely needs more money and cheaper prices brings casual gamers to suporters too. Currently only whales that want big progress will pay those 100€ packs. BUt less them 20€ and you will be have ton of transactions.

[grave star]

hey scopley ,how come you only add " improvements" when whales complain, and it effects there gameplay i lost the original amount of credits for the pulls of the bajoran chest ,even tho the screen showed the new amounts , from my stockpile of credits i had already built up ,so now thanks to your janky game, it has overcharged me for the chest pulls

[weak grove]

I have a policy to only buy stuff with max prize 20 Euro. So yes what you say would help

[wintry wasp]

I thought Scopely could at least on star trek day or once/twice a year have a Scopley prime day where all packs are some percentage off and of course free shipping ! 😜

@tacit obsidian and @weak marten please see above! Hehehehe 🤣

[celest viper]

Quite simply Scopely don’t care, as they are blinded by greed

[pure fern]

Greed is not bad on business but it needs businesman to know what makes people to buy and what not. business is always tied on customers needs and offerings law.

[ember mason]

Remember that slide from @weak marten's presentation showing that what the overwhelming majority of us really wanted was temporary god mode for some faction surveys? Credit to Scopely for finally listening to the players

[hollow pike]

Scopely know exactly how to get their intended audience to spend. Everything else is just a bonus

[potent silo]

I certainly didn't wanted that 🧐 too easy to abuse

[pure fern]

And really why focus on grind on years of game, why would you not want offer 5 cloaking pixels for 2€ offers to make people spending 20€ to get cloack instead of grind. The philospshy of greed can be added as minipayments. Everry free shard button next to it 1€ or 2€ button instantly gain. Also full unlock 20€.

[hoary blade]

@tacit obsidian it takes more time now as a 35 thin it did before we had no issue why change our hostels i only need a short run to get what i needed ...

[sullen wadi]

1. The change to allow literally operatives and above to mess with the starbase is hot garbage

2. The literally-pay-or-gtfo sourcing of officers this month is hot garbage

3. The still broken hostiles everywhere? garbage

[ripe thicket]

Why should we continue to play? You don't fix what we need and you stifle growth.

[celest viper]

Well I’m done, Ops 53 and I’m over the greed.. was always happy to spend when there’s value but the with the stupidity around all these changes means I’m no longer interested ..:picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :somuchwin: :

[nova sierra]

The change to allow alliance members Operative or higher is potentially a problem for bigger alliances. The collection part I think is great. The upgrading, not so much. Our alliance has a set goal on what we are trying to achieve, and if someone stumbles there before reading third party apps (discord), they might use our speedups in an inefficient way and potentially could hurt the alliance in future events.
Would love it if you change it back to commodores/admirals only for speedups/relocation and allowed EVERYONE to collect the plasma.
A log of who upgraded what, or spent speedups on what would be much appreciated too.

[ripe thicket]

When will mantis be ftp?

[celest viper]

#Never

[sweet sand]

At what point are stuck hostiles actually going to be addressed. It’s been a problem for far longer than Jem’Hadar hostiles were impacting players. And stuck hostiles actually impacts all players.

[hardy bane]

Can someone remind me where 4 of 11 sourcing is? Thanks

[meager cedar]

@tacit obsidian Is it just me or are the Dominion Hostiles actually dropping less loot now after it was announced that the loot was going to be increased 10x… it seems to me drops are now 1/10th. Not 10x

[quick marten]

Some were removed after today's update on 52, but not all of them.

[woeful nymph]

The cost to refine and the drops were reduced 10x

[tidal umbra]

Here on server 199, Loot from Jem'Hadar hostiles dropped to 1/10, but the excange rate in the Bajoran store has improved to 16k for 3packs. And my stock Antimatter Unit was intacted. 🙂
(Dont have a Mantis, so I have no Idea what goes on there...)

[meager cedar]

So I am confused how decreasing the cost and decreasing the drops makes it easier to attain as it was stated? The math then states that is isn’t any easier to attain lol 😂

[tidal umbra]

$copely math has always been harder than Quantum mechanics....😵‍💫

[spark pendant]

If it cost you x antimatter per day to do your refine and your best ship has 0.2x cargo space it's now easier...still confused? I don't know if it can be simplified any more than that

[covert pasture]

@tacit obsidian please change the starbase upgrades and speed ups back to commodores only. You are creating a lot of problems in alliances that weren’t there before

[jaunty turtle]

@tacit obsidian can you process my refund for the Mantis... Since 33-38 Mantis space is broken?

[fringe drum]

38 i think 2 hostiles on all servers

[civic turret]

Mantis, strike 1. Deep Space Nine, strike 2... complete fails. 😂🤣😂

[woeful nymph]

If you were having to make multiple trips because your cargo hold was full, it's faster as you have to make fewer trips back and forth. It will be very helpful once you get a new ship that is low tier with a smaller cargo hold and try and punch up

[frail geyser]

This game has always been buggy as can be. But honestly you guy’s really seem to be overachievers this arc. Fix the game start with the broken reds. How about fixing the content i actually paid to have access to? I just might not make it to my 4 year anniversary here.

[manic lynx]

Really dropped the Jem'hadar rewards by 90%

[shrewd badger]

also dropped the chest cost by 90%....meaning full cargo holds buy you more pulls. man this discord has been a broken record of people that just do not understand math

[manic lynx]

Still cost me the same 51k today.

[shrewd badger]

it shouldnt have....mine used to cost 800k. I just max pulled for 81k

[analog plank]

It took me 22 hrs to find enough capital traders to finish my dailies. That isn't a game or a grind that's just garbage.
Add in the 2 highest augment spaces don't spawn reds.
I am just spending time staring at a screen doing nothing.
That's not a game.
That's not entertaining.
At this rate almost 4 years in and I've never been closer to quitting.

[manic lynx]

The maintenance just added stuff to buy. Didn't fix the biggest bug that's been around for the last month

[frail geyser]

Hell just trying to do today’s BP event was dumb because of all the missing exchange spawns. Not to mention don’t bother trying to farm actian reds or advancing mantis content..

[gleaming wedge]

We had two Whales quit on server 29 today. You know stuff is messed up when two people who spent tens of thousands of dollars decide to walk away from that. 1 had an open ticket from a week ago that was still unanswered so he just walked away. It kills me to see such great people leave the game.

[rare vigil]

The system before wasn't broken but several weeks on server 32 actin Space nolonger spawn intacepters but the fix you do do causes me to not even get a full hull on my ship now and have to blow it up several time to get what I need I find this a great failure on you're end

[noble needle]

Honestly think hostiles not spawning is because we've reached the limit of what their servers can handle.

Too many systems, too many hostiles.

[tacit jay]

Daily reset timer is 6 minutes out of sync. Yesterday it was 5.

[spring chasm]

Dear Scopely:
1-If the Faction Reputation Primes granted 200% per tier, that would be worth $100 per tier to me. Alternatively, Each tier could remain as is, and be worth $10 a peice.
2-I really do love the Mantis content. However, broken unhittable / non-spawning Apex's really sabotage your creation and my gaming experience.
3-I really do love the New alliance Starbase. However, Armadas that fail to climax really sabotage your creation and my gaming experience.
4-I think you've done an amazing job in the Bajoran Content. I'm having a great time with it!
5-change Doom Armada Loot to Officer XP, and source directives.
6-change Territory Armada Loot to Iso Emulsion.
7-change Klingon Burial Ship Armada Loot to Cultivated Mycelium.
8-increase the Loot tables of Swarm Armadas and Cardassian Armadas to be comparable to Regular Armadas of equivalent levels.
9-Please double our sourcing of regular directives.

[spark grove]

Operatives are not people!!!!!

[mossy glacier]

I kind of don't want them to fix the Starbase until they roll back the idiotic idea to open its management beyond admiral and commodore.

[golden spade]

Another player who quit and is emptying out the coffers. The grind is real. Scopely, reduce game time.

[harsh ferry]

Common sense says if your new ship has a smaller cargo hold don't use that ship for something you need cargo for and keep using the ship you have been using

[earnest granite]

Some people needed to collect millions. You expect they do that with a survey or what?
I needed to collect CA. 360k. Only feasible way was lvl 49-51 jem'hadar.
Pilum is my only ship that gets there and can grind those well. Cargo hold is 160k.
Try thinking further than ops 35 on stuff that scales with ops 😉

[harsh ferry]

So you are saying this new faction cost scales with ops level instead of faction level like all the rest of the factions because ops level has never affected faction before

[earnest granite]

Yes, it scales with ops level.
Which means that on any OPS you progress at the same speed.
I can imagine the reason is so that it is similarly engaging to new as well as long time players, as (some of) the bonuses provided by the bajoran favours are quite unique and interesting.

[vagrant gyro]

When was the last time anyone actually got a response to any feedback from our Community Manager...

[harsh ferry]

So they changed faction mechanics without letting anyone know would make the changes they just made make more sense now

[lilac storm]

So why do the the daily goals now reset about 5~6 min after the top of the hour instead of the top of the hour like they use to do?

[formal sorrel]

It has been a while. Probably a couple of months maybe longer.

[gleaming urchin]

<@&509690795536941056>
Hello Scopely,
Yesterday I sent longer feedback (see #💬-general-feedback message), but during this you released a new feature, which I would like to include now.
1..You reduced the loot from the dominion enemies and reduced the cost in the Bajoran fraction store. Unfortunately, nobody was aware about this. Everyone was angry for a good reason yesterday! If you are doing maintenance or change a feature, write a short message to Discord! If you continue like this, you do not have to wounder about the “f*** Scopely” comments. It is your fault.
2..You did do the cost and loot reduction make it easier. A weird idea: reduce the loot by 75% only and the cost by 90% and increase the spawn rate of the enemies. In this case player could collect the required loot faster and could save time for other things. In the last month you released a lot of new time intensive features, like the Mantis. It is too much stuff (from a time perspective)
3.Please explain the new auto defense feature for miners. Sorry to be open: It is a stupid idea. But let start with what I know: You must buy the skins in the Bajoran fraction store. Afterward they are always active? Or do you have to active them with this new currency? If so, do you have a “protection” for X-hours or until the miner return to base? Do I have to active it per miner or in general? How often can I activate it?
From the other perspective, the normal game flow is:
You wake up in the morning and send out your miners and a warship. Search for a 0 mine and then (based on the ROE of your server) you send a message to the other player and kill the miner on the 0 mine with your warship. Afterwards you miner can start to mine. What will happen with your new feature? Will I see that a miner has auto defense active? Or will I be surprised by a dead or nearly dead warship ? Could create a lot of frustration!!

[burnt agate]

It seems they have opened the starbase for all or most members of an alliance to start a module or speedup the build time, this is a bad idea because harder to manage what people think is good to build or have no clue but build it anyways.

[nova sierra]

Tmr it’s 7

[severe wren]

👀😅

[fallen epoch]

Maths 😁

[severe wren]

Would be happy if the math is buy 2 get 4 👀😂

[vagrant obsidian]

Agreed

[burnt agate]

@vagrant obsidian players that are not active in any group event or even chat in alliance chat are making starbase related upgrades without any thought. So annoying, I didnt have access before and didn't mind because we need control especially since all commodore's initial just upgraded because they could just like now.

[nova latch]

Even if that is meant to be a decimal point it takes a neck like a jockey's you-know-whats to ask for that much money for anything in tbis game.

[woeful coral]

I've been gradually trending away from the game, but I can tell you my engagement this month is way down. I spend less time in game because the event calendar is basically empty, and I get all the events done in an hour or two tops. I can't grind venom for the Mantis at a reasonable rate since all the Apexes are stuck in systems I can use, so I'm now skipping that. I basically just pop in, move a miner, maybe participate in an armada, and then skip out for an hour or more because there's no reason to stick around. I'm no whale, but I have spent enough to be a strong mid-tier player. Barring a strong change soon, you're going to lose most players of my ilk. If I didn't feel an obligation to carry littler players in my alliance, I probably would be out already. I doubt that means anything, but I hope I'm wrong.

[obsidian plinth]

I wonder if Scopely has picked up on the fact that many are unhappy with the additional, time consuming, grind added to the game?

If so, as every faction is the enemy of the Jem'hadar, why not add some positive faction rep for Fed, Rom and Klingon to each ship you kill?

That at least would give an added incentive to spending a lot of time killing them

[vagrant obsidian]

Yes makes it impossible to plan when people just click buttons out of curiosity 🙈

[woeful coral]

I should add that the incentive to play this month isn't really there if you're not more of a spender than I or 40+. Officers can't be sourced without $$. Under 35 can't even access the new faction. 35-39 get limited access since we can't source solo rare or epic directives. I can do my daily Bajoran grind for rep, UC directives, and occasionally credits, but that's all I'm getting out of this month.

The payout on the Cardassian Armada event was pitiful, so I only got 4/8 milestones between the two days since the value wasn't there. I only finished the Dukat one since I needed credits for pulls anyway. I wasn't going to burn something I can't easily source for so little gain otherwise.

[brave prairie]

scopely i will totaly reduce my time in the game or even uninstall really soon becuase you totally make it worse with every step you make. hope you pay the price

[glass garnet]

The ship ability cooldown location and graphic is not an improvement. So yes, you can see the effect time by clicking on the icon, but what’s with the “your ability is in cooldown” message once activated instead of the unobtrusive numerical countdown we used to have. It is now ridiculously hard to try and time multiple Cerritos boosts for an armada, or to be time-efficient in using the sting 4 times in a row for dailies without sitting there watching the gauge. Why is Scopely fixing things that weren’t broke, or fixing the wrong thing? And putting the activation button under the ship screen drops it squarely on top of the ship icons at the bottom on smaller devices which is just visually annoying.

[shadow aspen]

Starbase has become ridiculous. Surely there was an error when it was made open to anyone above agent to mess things up. What was the thinking behind this terrible move? It really needs to be put back to admiral and commodores only. Its simple common sense not to create a condition where wrong upgrades are done, speed ups are wasted, bases are moved around when not needed. 🙈 Its a foolish change to put it politely. <@&509691205798592532> please tell them to stop making the game worse.

[brave prairie]

the mods surely do since months. but you see whats happening dont you?

[rose nacelle]

Question: does Scopely smoke after rawdogging the f2p players? I’d like to send them a carton of smokes for being so loving and generous towards their victims.

[smoky plover]

@north perch You need to change back the way Alliance star bases work. Having is so that Operatives can change things is TOTALLY STUPID. Who thought this was a good idea? It should be Commodores only like it was before.

[zinc swan]

@tacit obsidian please fix stuck hostiles on s65! Level 33-38 Actian systems' Apexes are currently bugged!

[livid stone]

At this point it’s needed in every server. We are in the same boat on 43

[elfin root]

They said a while back they were working on a script to un-stick them. Maybe have that thing run automatically every night at the same time? S61 has the same problem, everyone trying to farm the one system that spawns them (maybe it's part of a master plan to increase hostilities and wars that entice spending? 😂 )

[zinc swan]

Stupid "master plan" . Makes people not want to engage with content, which in turn makes them angry because they spent money on the content they cannot enjoy or are extremely frustrated with.

Good way to make players quit.

[elfin root]

Never said it was a smart master plan 🤣

[pure fern]

And yes this arc has been the worst arc yet. Many our players has said deciding not do things only daylies

[zinc swan]

Until they fix Actian Apexes/stuck hostiles, they should really be giving a daily gift of Actian venom that corresponds with mantis tier.

[vale wasp]

The script was imperfect last I saw it run. It removes the hostiles from the screen, but can leave something behind that still blocks spawns. The only thing you'd gain here is a cleaner galaxy...and maybe fewer hostiles in your system.

When they're finished with it, it'll be deployed to everyone.

[zinc swan]

I find the lack of ability to easily reset systems to default/hibernated status very telling of their play testing conditions. Does not indicate a strong ability to troubleshoot, since step 1 of any IT troubleshooting is always "turn it off and back on". 🤔

[crude sandal]

the stuck hostiles even persist if the system hibernates/resets due to inactivity though

[hidden night]

Found my first stuck JemHadar hostile today, good to see there is consistency across the board now. Please address this ASAP, it's getting bad in swarms and mantis space as well, up to 3 or 4 in most systems.

[median vector]

Why in the world would you remove the cloak timer and the cool down timer and replace them with a graphic that doesn't tell us anything?!? This makes cloaking more difficult to use strategically. I don't know when I need to leave to avoid being seen, it how long I need to avoid an attacker before I can cloak again! Give me back the countdown!

@tacit obsidian tell them to stop fixing what isn't broken. We needed a countdown timer on Cerritos support, not the removal of the useful ones we already had.

Now I see the cloak timer exists but you have to click the ship to see it. We need it on the battle screen, where we can see it at a glance, especially for PvP

[dreamy fable]

@torn saffron I want to personally thank you for the extra lag you have inserted into the game right now

[lime scroll]

Fix the stuck hostiles bug.

[dreamy fable]

And @torn saffron what is $copley going to do to compensate people who paid real money for the Mantis and only got broken content in return?

[muted osprey]

Yesterday's PC update is demanding too much cpu (30+%) & gpu (50+%) when the game is just idle.

Usually it's just a small fraction of that. Can't even watch YouTube at the lowest resolution while the game is running.

[honest knot]

Why did they mess up the build, promote/demote function by basically giving it to everyone? Do they play the game?

[mossy glacier]

They wanted to cause mayhem and chaos because we're managing our ASBs too efficiently.

[crude sandal]

maybe it's a short term workaround for commadores who can't get through the broken starbase screen 😂

[mossy glacier]

It was working just fine before their idiotic idea.

[sand sun]

What about negative plasma figures??? Can't build any further.... Fix this now....

[rich elm]

lol, hard to code something taking in consideration integer overflow

[nova latch]

Well done on making 25% of store content availible for €20

[weary niche]

STOP adding new stuff and fix what you broke yesterday. We haven't had a month since the release of the cloak that has not had a new bug or game crash mechanic.

[tender echo]

Why not just increase the cargo capacity?

[vale wasp]

On every ship? ok!

[median vector]

$300 to unlock these 'auto defenses' and then our 3768th game currency to use them? 😂😂😂😂

No thanks.

[weary niche]

Sounded soo cool... and now FAIL 🤣

[left flume]

No they dont

[sand bear]

Here's some feedback. Run a 20% off sale or something in your store every once in a while. People may actually want to spend and you will make the money you clearly are desperate for, based on the release of all the recent packs.

[last nest]

no i will not

[vestal obsidian]

The old version with a cooldown timer visible as text and the old button placement was a lot clearer than what todays change is when it comes to cloaking/mantis debuff/Cerritos buff

Today it's horrible to see what is going on

[agile lynx]

I'm not mad about the new automated defense packs being available only as a £90 unlock rather than having lower priced options for just the shards. I'm simply disappointed that the greed was predictable.

[hoary blade]

Do they even have a project manager of this game it seams like a bunch of guys got hey this looks cool I'm doing it no control at all

[opaque sail]

Garage devs/suits

[lost forge]

@tacit obsidian auto defenses 🤔 not sure how useful this will be. Would need to see how it works. Miners tend to get attacked when opc, zeroed, during wars, or when someone is just out to have fun at everyones mining expense or takeovers. Just,it can be hard to predict when one is going to get attacked.

These seem like they could be good at stopping small players but not equal or for sure not bigger players. Players mining 4g, lots of mining times last longer and could outlast automatic defenses times.

I don’t feel I could use them for protecting cargo that goes over protected limits as their is always a bigger ship that could take it. During a war it could have possible uses or during a take over to add more defenses against smaller ships but for regular mining, I don’t see a practical use for everyday mining. Maybe incursion mining but I don’t see many trying to mine then and it would not stop bigger players with 5g ships.

A different idea a level 52 in my alliance suggest he would be more tempted to buy; an automated self destruct. Everything would work the same as the automated defense other than timer: acquire skin and activating things (money or grind). When attacked the miner selfs destructs and the miner keeps all cargo mined, including all cargo over the protected limits. I could see use for that.

[peak narwhal]

Scopley have maxed their incompetence researches !!!!! Why we should pay for this ship abilities for g3&g4 miners….🤦🏼sry but pay for good management who knows Star Trek!!!! The decisions for the game going straight worse and worse🤬 @tacit obsidian

[mossy glacier]

There is no logic in this place.

[hoary blade]

The problem I see is it probably once hit it goes away so any one with 2 ships makes this useless

[unique current]

Dear scopely you are driving more and more people away from this game with your greed for profits. Pull back on the stick before you crash this thing into the ground!

[hoary blade]

And the cost 100 bucks ba if it was 50 or 20 maybe but it's Simi useless and has a 3 hour timer ok so as long as I'm on that is fine but to be of use it needs to stay active tell brought home

[tribal girder]

@hoary blade 300 bucks for the g4 miners

[lost forge]

An automated recall system would have been nicer. (Same concept, buy or grind skin and currency to activate.) Node goes zero and or when ship cargo reaches protected limits. The ship recalls to base. I know lots who don’t like their miners blown up for opc or zero and use slow mining crews to prevent this from happing in attempts to time mining times with sleep or work. This clogs up mining nodes for hours. An automated recall could encourage players to use better mining crews and more mining nodes would open up.

[pastel hazel]

Unsubscribe. Tell me instead when you fix Barot.

[mighty oracle]

Today 2 of our paying players quit the game, because of the recent arcs, the constant new things which aquieres more time and more money! Soon employees from scoply will be out of work if this continues!
Happy players equal spending, social interference with eachother maybe saying hey great game come play… unhappy players….. Well read up on your chats from the last 6 months, atleast😫

[light girder]

Regarding 47.1 patch notes: THIS IS NOT AN IMPROVEMENT! Harvesting, yes. Building and using up speedups, no.

[knotty musk]

So much this! Fix it NOW, $copely!

[pastel hazel]

Just demote your members

[lime rose]

Usd100 for a survey ability is offensive. You only show to us that you don't play our own game. I was ready to buy all three factions for usd20 each, but usd100 thanks but no thanks.

[haughty escarp]

Spend spend spend...

[lethal veldt]

$100 for g3 miners...$300 for g4 miners

[haughty escarp]

You don't need 401k...you got scopely. Pull that money out and invest in scopely.

[sudden elk]

Is there any way to "un-install" then "re-install" THE STFC APP Successfully?

[median vector]

Maybe if it only took one pack to unlock instead of 3

[sudden elk]

These new updates have caused the game to require more time to load. Once loaded the game is running slower than before. 💩

[agile lynx]

I can only see the G3 ones, didn't see the G4 needed 3. If they'd sold them all as a £20 unlock maybe more people would engage with them. As it stands, £90-£300 for something which, if I understand how it works correctly, is a solution to a problem no one really had? Like if miners got blown up they got blown up. You lost some rss and simply sent it out again. This auto defense thing may kill a few Vi'dars but all that means is people will just use bigger ships. At least that's my thoughts on it. Doesn't seem worth

[median vector]

They also require another currency to activate, which means they probably run for a limited time before they have to be brought home and reactivated

[edgy harness]

3 hours when activated

[lilac storm]

And now you’re deleting comments.

Way to ensure you loose players even faster than your greed alone will do.

[edgy harness]

@agile lynx You are thinking, Scopely relies on the players that don’t do that

[weak tundra]

@tacit obsidian can we please sweep zombie hostiles. S38 has almost every actian apex system unable to spawn apex hostiles. We paid money to engage with this content and its tacitly broken. These should be swept automatically (without customer requests) and short & regular intervals until you create a fix for the content breaking problem. Add to that that the buffs regularly to not trigger automatically as designed but must be activated manually. That requires multiple screen changes and about a dozen clicks, taking 20 seconds or so each time. Times 3 buffs lasting 5 min, that’s 12 min for a 1 hour grind….crazy broken content

What used to take 15 min or so to fill my hull is now taking about an hour. 250+ hostiles to fill my mantis hull without spawning apex hostiles & I need 2 hulls/day.

[crystal dew]

So these odds are a lie scopely? I've pulled 5 times and only received common parts. According to this there's only a 12% chance of that happening each time hmmmm

[fallen epoch]

Where did you get 12% it literally states 100%. You will always get common parts. Everything else has lower chances

[crystal dew]

I said I've never received unc or rare, unc is 65% rare is 23% so yeah thats where I'm getting it from lol, literally dude

[fallen epoch]

The first line says 100% chance of common

As for the uc which is 65% RNG really hates you 🙈

[crystal dew]

It boggles my mind how you still aren't understanding, there is only a 12% chance to receive ONLY common parts given the stated odds, it's already questionable that the stated numbers are correct given 5 pulls with nothing. If I do another 5 str8 without getting any it's nearly mathematically impossible

[fallen epoch]

The odds aren’t out of 100%, they are out of something a bit stranger

[true zealot]

For older content loops. Can we get exos or skin bps added to faction stores that make the loop faster for those who've maxed be more effective?

[wind vortex]

Looks to me like there's two batches, one will always be common, the second has 12% common, 65% unc, 23% rare.

[brave prairie]

guys thats like the G3 refinery ^^ i u are lucky u get 51 uncommon opening 2 chets, even when there is just a max chacne get 2x 22 uncommon. or u loose and get none😬 😬 hidden maths

[fallen epoch]

For me it looks like 2 batches
1 100% common
1 65% uc 23% rare 12% nothing

[wind vortex]

Plausible too. I don't have access yet so haven't seen the numbers out of a pull.

[potent silo]

It's 2 rolls.

Just done a test (and Oooops screenshot missed). But got 1 uc 1 common, for only 1 chest

Edit its 3 rolls, 1 per type

[fallen epoch]

@crystal dew 👆

[wind vortex]

Ahh so
Roll 1: Common (100%) and nothing (0%)
Roll 2: Uncommon (65%) and nothing (35%)
Roll 3: Rare (23%) and nothing (77%)

[potent silo]

Yes, test on another and got that so 3 confirmed

[fallen epoch]

Yep that’s how it actually is 😅😅😅

[round bear]

How do I boost my teammates? Can someone help?

[potent silo]

With cerritos? You should have that.

If not, check if you don't have an update waiting in play store

[lost prawn]

So after the first day of release I haven't had the default error issue. Now it's back in full and every action is giving an error....

[round bear]

No update and don’t see that. This game man. Thanks for the ss though

[potent silo]

Update new, might need a bit if it's rolling out. A bit more if you use apple. Just got it 1h ago max

[polar zealot]

So how was reducing the amount the jem'hadar drop a good idea ?

[fallen epoch]

The faction store was reduced by the same amount. The idea is since warpships have limited cargo spaces you can fit in more per run and do less runs overall

[crystal dew]

Ok thanks! 3 rolls makes it more likely for me to have just gone 0 for 5 on 65% pretty unlucky but feasible then a separate 0 for 5 on rares

[polar zealot]

It's actually less per run now but ok and I'm guess time wasn't factored in

[potent silo]

I get loads of common, that test was first time I got 3 pulls 😅 i don't use it anymore really, just not worth it until feesha is bigger

[fallen epoch]

Yes and it’s now less to convert in the faction store

Check #⭐-official-announcements

[civic turret]

Automated Defenses… the big FU to F2P players.

[lilac storm]

Careful, they deleted my comment because I called it “BS”.

[fallen epoch]

I don’t think it was just that 😉

[lilac storm]

Then it had to be because I simply stated the truth about how you guys are greedy by making a feature that you have to purchase and then turn around and purchase the currency to make it work.

[fallen epoch]

You can say it without using words that break the rules in #🌠-rules-and-roles12

Swearing even in abbreviated or self censored forms isn’t permitted here

[nova sierra]

Ummm...

Discovery, mycelium?
Cloaks, tetryons?

This is not a new thing.

To be clear, I'm not saying it's a good thing either.

[lilac storm]

I have yet to ever pay a penny towards any of those.

[abstract pawn]

So is there a reason why everyone operative and above can now upgrade the Starbase? Why aren't they only allowed to collect?
Or the adjustments could have been made for premieres. But everyone fiddling with the Base is not really helpful either. 😦

[nova sierra]

And I will not try to convince you to break your stance in any way.

Just don't. I'm not.

This arc has to be the laziest money grab in stfc history. Bring back decent arc officer sourcing, SLBs of all kinds and more interactive events. Finishing events in 20m and feeling like there isn't much to do other than the regular grind is pretty whack!

[round bear]

They went from the best officer sourcing in a whale to the worst in history in back to back months

[molten jungle]

@tacit obsidian - Please clean up the server leaderboards post incursions. I know you guys did something unannounced last time to suppress the other server, but we still have people from the incursion before that in the player leaderboards.

[lilac storm]

It’s not a stance. There are in-game ways to obtain and use those features without spending.

[fallen epoch]

Yes there is

Faction store

[analog dagger]

<@&509691205798592532> the bug where u can't see into a tc system you own is back

[fallen epoch]

Got some screenshots?

[nova sierra]

Forgive me, but that is a stance. It's not a bad stance either.

[analog dagger]

Here ya go

[nova sierra]

I feel like this never left. Just depends what interactions you do in the zone.

Can we just get a full maintenance arc already? I'd take a break from d💩9 for that...

[crude drum]

Ok, enough is enough. Today, I become a F2P player. Too must big investments for just a game.

[zealous hill]

@tacit obsidian why o why is operative and above able to upgrade the Starbase? Should be only Admrils and Com's. This is very counter productive.

[boreal ferry]

@tacit obsidian so I take it the servers that experienced weeks of scoring lag will never get any compensation? Lost daily prizes, lost (paid and unpaid) battle pass prizes?

[shadow aspen]

<@&509691205798592532> Can you please get the devs to fix the starbase access back to com and admiral, there is a very good reason why people have ranks, your change has made an absolute mess of it with random upgrades and movings without knowing what they are doing 🙈

[potent silo]

He got the feedback about that change, so hopefully will be changed again

[hidden stream]

@tacit obsidian touchscreen support for the PC build would be nice to have for those with tablets.

[bright niche]

FIX THE BUGS ALREADY

[trail garnet]

No. We need a proper test server for all stuff to roll out, be fixed and then launched to the masses.

[trail haven]

Well ticket response about the plasma harvesting yielded a ‘we know’ response. Maybe in the meantime hand some plasma out to affected alliances (or everyone) to keep progress going.

[cold seal]

Great choice to change the loading screen music to the DS9 theme. So much better than the generic ST theme it was before

[spring gulch]

I have my sounds turned off because of the super annoying red alert sound that plays every time you attack a ship. Why is there no way to turn this off!

[alpine token]

The blatant money grabs by Scoeply!!!! Who needed miner protections skins that have a cost to turn on? Oh wait no one! How about we get zones to actually work and lag to abate so we can hunt ships

[edgy harness]

How dare you ask for competency instead of just buying packs!

[stiff linden]

@tacit obsidian please inform Scopely Management, the community (f2p and p2w) are very disappointed. DS9 was expected to be amazing… it’s a wet fart at best.

[winter sigil]

A shart?

[simple plinth]

That crap needs rolled back and all speedups refunded.

[crimson elm]

@tacit obsidian how many currencies do you think the game has right now and what is your ideal steady state number?

[fast plinth]

Infinity…..

[nova sierra]

And beyond! Wait, wrong franchise...

[final socket]

Here its not possible to build something at all, with -200k red plasma and its not possible to collect new harvested plasma.

[severe wren]

Please, fix aiming for ships around bases for tablets….it’s horrible 😣
Since the base takes sooooooo much space, you can’t aim good.
And don’t tell me „use the arrows“ it does not work if you need to be fast ….know your game

[earnest granite]

Is there any workaround yet for us not being able to collect Plasma from the ASB?

[green cove]

revert the starbase permissions or make them so we can set them had members not know what it was and waste speed ups and resources

[charred ravine]

Food for thought:

[grizzled plume]

Yep, I think there is a growing population of players with the same thought. Players are now much more willing to be public in discord about their frustrations, and it feels like just one long negative reaction to all recent arcs from so many people (correct imo, as they have been dreadful for most of the year and DS9 was supposed to be the good arcs lots of people were looking forward too). And on top of that the failure to resolve long standing and recent bugs adds to the frustration when we just see new ‘please buy another pack’ content,
Think scopley is close to ‘losing the dressing room’ for a big part of its player base, and without urgent corrective action then it may be too late to recover.

[azure egret]

Ok what hmm at scopely thought it was a good idea to change the options in alliance rank for upgrading modules on the ASB.

I am fine with people harvesting, but when it comes to upgrading i want only a limmited amount of people to be able to do that

[azure egret]

I guess these people can now also activate buildings and with that spend the alliance reserves?? The items we untill now only used to move our base. But will for sure use to activate different building/buffs/functionality??

Realy who thinks about this stuff at scopely, what you think "oh if every1 can controll it they will run out of those reserves fast!! Thats a nice oppertunity to sell them through cashshop!!"

Its becomming so transparant, you know what will happen right? Ill just kick the whole alliance to agent untill you put that group in controll of the base as well

[hollow pike]

Lots of alliances are demoting everyone below commodore back to Agent as a failsafe

[mild cobalt]

☝️ That's what I did. With no warning it was changing, we had people messing with stuff before we even knew a change had been made. So stupid to not tell us in advance. Demotions for everyone.

[nova sierra]

Why are alliances full of people you don’t trust?

I mean, I don’t like the change, it’s not really a great thing to do at such a “low” rank, but if you can’t trust the people in your alliance to make good decisions… why are they in your alliance?! 🙈

And it absolutely should have been something we were asked about first, let alone warned about 🤣

[hollow pike]

People click on stuff, it’s human nature

[azure egret]

@nova sierra its simple we have an upgrade strategy in our alliance. I am in controll in ours. We try to go for assembly chamber and rank up that thing fast to get to the true functionality of the station!!

With that we dont waste speedups are conductors on anything else!!

But ... and this will be more important then anything else. You have another item associated with the base called "alliance reserves" for now its only used to move the base. But i take it these things are needed to activate the buffs/functionality of buildings. I am asuming that 1 or maybe 2 maybe active at all times. Meaning if every1 can use em you would be through those in a heartbeat!!

No i dont want full controll of the base for the whole alliance defo not!! I want an select few people that can controll what does were and when!!

[nova sierra]

I get that - I completely get that. But we are in the same position with regards to who has permission:

82 people, only one doesn’t have the ability to do it, but one instruction from our commodores and nobody is doing silly things. Why would you want people in your alliance that cannot follow an instruction like “don’t mess with the Starbase”? 🙂

[azure egret]

Great only takes 1 to waste 4 days of speedups though. Only also takes 1 that didnt get the memo.

Or maybe the tried in the begining like in our alliance and stopped trying and are unaware they can!! Untill they figure it out. And then will see what happens in yours. I am sure you not goingbto be pleased

[ember garden]

My commodores saving star base resourses, waking up to 600 upgrades because opperatives can do it now. Rip alb

[civic haven]

Friendly advice on the 3* faction miner skin packs: add 50k Bajoran rep. I question how many people will buy the skin when they can’t replenish the “fuel” until they grind rep for 4 months. Or if you plan to source the fuel through events or whatnot until then, announce that. Or allow people to buy the fuel earlier since that will not help those who don’t buy the skin.

[mild cobalt]

If you suddenly found yourself with new access to things you didn't have before wouldn't you test it out? Wouldn't your first assumption be that you were given that ability by your alliance? With no pre warning and no ability to tell everyone not to mess with it because we had no idea they would even be able to things were bound to happen. It takes several days to get a communication out to 80 plus people when not all of them are on discord and not all of them play during the same hours.

[nova sierra]

Uh. No, my first action when I have new stuff is to read and learn about it.

🙂

I completely see where some of this is frustrating - 100%. But if you have people tearing through speedups then they’re not the sort of person I’d be so keen to have in my alliance 🙂

[charred ravine]

yes, here another masterpice

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021107961587826708/1030057708365303838/IMG_6652.mov

[azure egret]

Then mybfriend jeeves what can i say. You are the first human in history that isnt curious and litteraly follows the manual to the letter! You must be superman

[nova sierra]

And this is separate to the obvious this needed to be communicated

[frigid perch]

Without any way to mass communicate with your alliance members. At least some of us use Discord I guess, but even then not everyone uses it 🤷‍♂️ also given the lack of new members on the servers it's not a good idea to kick people for making mistakes if you want your alliance to survive.

[mild cobalt]

Read it where? There was no announcement anywhere to read. We only had one boo boo which was the only thing that tipped anyone off that something had been changed, so we blanket demoted everybody until we have time to make sure everyone knows what's up. But honestly I'm not going to try and have a conversation with somebody who can reply several times instantly while I have to wait 5 minutes per post cuz that's just beyond frustrating so good night all, see you tomorrow. 😆😂

[nova sierra]

It’s pretty much a mandatory in our alliance, given the lacklustre communication ability in game 🙂.

[frigid perch]

Patch notes should be made available before a release goes out, so we stand some kind of chance to know what is changing and what if anything we need to do. This is basic stuff so why can't Scopely get it right?

[nova sierra]

Agree and disagree; the problem they have is there are sometimes exploitable bugs that they don’t want to communicate en masse because it then creates mayhem, but at the same time I agree there does need to be a look at how changes to “behaviours” such as permissions in alliance and similar is available to people in advance. I will ask Eco if there’s any way we can look to something like this.

[heavy marten]

Write additional release notes with security stuff like exploitable bugs. 🤗

[nova sierra]

Exactly 🙂 but first we need those on time, then we can work on “features” ahead of time 😅

[quick cape]

In our alliance nobody does that.

[gilded halo]

@tacit obsidian how's that QA team coming along? Should work on that if not

[river tangle]

@nova sierra The current starbase permissions are terrible. Requiring players to go message everyone in an alliance to get them to understand what is or isn't permitted is a unnecessary burden. It would only have taken a small consultation from Scopley to realise this.
Perhaps including Premier on the starbase, or better still creating some additional permission. But the current implementation drives alliances to demote everyone to agent once someone decides to spend all the plasma on some 💩 that wasn't in the plan. Which of course right now we can't replenish due to the collector bug.

[final crown]

It’s about managing risk. You don’t rely on a single control (communication). You need technology controls in place too.

It takes just one drunk person one night, one disgruntled player, and things can get damaged or even wrecked

Added to this, it was a change that wasn’t needed and wasn’t asked for

When you have a group of nearly 100 people someone is going to mess up. Role based access and restricting player permissions in combination w communication is the best way to reduce the chance of accidents or malicious behavior

Simply communicating isn’t enough. We need those restrictions back in place

[untold zephyr]

Why are my dailies resetting later and later each day? It was 9pm PST. Then 9:03 then 9:05...now 9:07? Anyone else notice the timer for reset isn't syncing correctly?

[crude sandal]

sounds more like your clock might be slipping?

[nova sierra]

Dailies have never been “on time” specifically per se, they do wander around a little - I’ll ask if there’s anything in it but I expect most of this is “oh yeah, you’re right!” causing people to notice what’s been going on for years as far as I remember. 🙂

[crude sandal]

I'm asleep when dailies reset, so I dunno 😄

[nova sierra]

Old man bladder

[analog dagger]

<@&509691205798592532> the exo bug via the mantis is back....you have to manually click again

[unique widget]

Feedback: The chat filter is way too sensitive; several common words like 'bite' get flagged and it makes some simple discussions harder to have; yet you can also easily bypass the filter with letter replacement and spaces which makes the whole filter worthless anyway. Please at least make it an option to disable the filter.

[potent silo]

Filter can censor foreign words too, its why bite is censored 😬

[sage token]

how is reducing the jemhadar loot drop by 10x supposed to make it easier???

[old stratus]

The iPhone 14 has been out for a long time now. When is the game going to be updated to fix the display issues with the new screen?

[potent silo]

They reduced the chest cost by 90% too. So if you see no difference in grind that's normal.

The new numbers do make it easier at some hight level, when players needed to do 5-10 trips because of cargo limitation

[livid stone]

@tacit obsidian The script yesterday did unstick some hostiles for us on server 43 - but what has happened since is we get even more stuck hostiles now. Many of the apex actians that were fixed are already stuck again. Also, yellow mission bosses remain stuck and I cannot progress those mission chains - CS would not help me on those ones, so I am hoping you could.

[zealous trellis]

Mantis grind is unplayable with all the apex frozen

[vale wasp]

If you don't get them fixed before then, hopping in incursions can fix stuck yellows.

[livid stone]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-lloyd-theres-a-chance-jim-carrey-gif-11098164

[placid ermine]

Regularly or daily? Might consider an edit.

[nova sierra]

@merry sage does many words.

[merry sage]

https://tenor.com/view/bbtangela-words-are-hard-bbtyler-bb20-tyler-crispen-gif-12873064

[placid ermine]

😆

[untold zephyr]

Then your feedback is pointless.

[crude sandal]

Cheery fella I see 🤣

[untold zephyr]

This is a feedback channel to scopely to fix things. If u are here just to give commentary that doesn't contribute to fixing issues...then yes..I am not going to be cheery.

[fluid crystal]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fallontonight-jimmy-fallon-tonight-show-tonightshow-rtC7dqOLYGMRW2Ylld

[crude sandal]

Poor baby got a booboo?

[untold zephyr]

@nova sierra . Events reset at 9amPST. Dailies showing still beyond 12 hours (9pm). To give a visual. And again... this has been increasingly later as the week has been progressing.

[nova sierra]

I sort of get it, but the time is given - does it miss that time that’s given?

[long veldt]

well the new auto-gunner skin for the Antares is a waste of money, it doesn't do anything in defending battle another scopely screwup

[tall smelt]

Available missions sensor research.

Give us a way to detect missions that can be started.

[nova sierra]

Did you activate it?

[long veldt]

as soon as i got it yes

[untold zephyr]

Last night yes. It showed my dailies reset back to incomplete. So I reset my miner. Then the timer kicked back on showing 2 mins til reset...and that daily was no longer showing as available. I couldn't complete it at all and never received the rewards.

[craggy saddle]

Did you also use this button on your miner? 😅

[long veldt]

TYVM no i didn't see it now it works

[elfin vine]

There is a period of time where your daily quests reset and can be completed, but if you turn them in, they don't count. That window is widening by about 90 seconds every day. Give it a month and you lose almost an entire hour out of a day.

[nova sierra]

Thanks - see that’s good, that gives me something to whine properly about ☺️

[untold zephyr]

Thank you!

[hushed atlas]

Just wanted to say "congratulations on this event store system, it gives no incentive to save or work towards anything, unlike the first one, which everyone on my server enjoyed"..

Yet another slow clap. Jesus wept. He wept for the stupidity of scopely and its alienation of ftp

[zinc swan]

Day 4 of of Actian Apexes being "stuck" and untargetable in systems 33-37 on s65!

Please fix asap and/or offer daily gift of Actian venom (depending on mantis tier) until it is resolved!

[long veldt]

same on server 56

[rough belfry]

That Cardassian crew is making me wish to quit the game more than anything else in or out of the game.

[lilac nebula]

Massive lag Server 83

[slate orbit]

@tacit obsidian have several alliance members lvl 34 and below not seeing FoF:FCA mining event. Had them reset and clear locslization still nada, is this by design?

[livid stone]

@tacit obsidian some bajoran favors are not showing as active after you activate them in the faction store. For example, I activated Pagh Ascension and it still shows 0/5 and is also not showing in the faction store now too. I cleared localization and such and the issue persists.

[wise notch]

Lag is unbearable again... takes ages for actions to register. Targeted a normal hostile ship and it took a whole 2 minutes before combat started !

[lilac nebula]

Server 83 is unplayable

[potent shard]

So how are we supposed to complete Friend and Foe event when there is no mission to complete?

[vale wasp]

What's causing it to be unplayable?

[gaunt nova]

Reload your game or check for updates. There is a friend and foe event today. If you can’t get it after that put in a ticket

[wind robin]

We've restarted clients (both mobile and PC) and cleared Localization. No updates available for the client (up-to-date). Per #💫-event-information and #🏆-event-chat seems it's an oversight as only Ops 35+ can see it.

[vale wasp]

The 10-34 event is rolling out soon.

[lilac nebula]

I was defending my station from attacks, and suddenly everything stoppedn. Nobody is able to attack me, I am unable to shield. We're all just stuck there staring at each other. I can't send ships out from my station. We restarted our clients.

And after like 30 minutes of staring at each other it finally just came back. I also just received like a hundred notifications on my phone for the game at the same time. I am not sure if the act of me repairing my base repeatedly somehow lagged the entire server but I would think that is something this game should be able to handle.

[potent shard]

Oh there ya go. Thanks once again scopely for making the lower lvl guys included

[slate orbit]

Fyi, there are major iis attacks on us systems today according to fortinet threat map.

[gaunt nova]

Okay. Sorry I couldn’t help more.

[wind robin]

No worries, thanks for trying. 🙂 Turns out it's a known (well, known now 😉 ) issue and the fix should be here in about an hour.

[gaunt nova]

Yea. Scopely really messed this month up. I am lvl 31 and they want to me to complete an event by paying $99. Otherwise it is lvl 35 locked. SMH. A little ridiculous in my opinion

[tough flicker]

This whole month has been about paying for things just to complete events...

[proud steppe]

Mining targets are freaking insane for friend or foe SMS. So we just have to mine with everything for a straight 24 hours right? Screw you scope and your game. Literally making the game a grind. ITS NOT EVEN A FREAKING HEROIC SMS

[quiet onyx]

Too many problems with this game. Does $copely ever bother to look at all the issues that always popped up.

[wind vortex]

Is this idiotic starbase permissions change being rolled back yet or are we going to have to demote all our long-playing but non-leader members down to pleb level?

[molten jungle]

Dumb permissions change already having secondary consequences. Dumb change, and to what purpose, no one knows.

[near bluff]

Should there be a cancel option?

[hollow pike]

There’s a few cases like that. Annoying

[near bluff]

I don't understand how I didn't complete this? Just doing my dailies would have scored me something

[potent silo]

You wouldn't happen to kill klingon for dailies?

You can answer in #👾-bug-reporting

[cyan portal]

Can we go back to yellow hostiles NOT having their hulls immediately regenerate? Being able to double tap was the only way to get through some of these and now can't even do that

[fallen epoch]

Hulls always regen instantly. It’s shields that take time to regen

It’s never changed

[north spire]

Can we finally fix the systems where the actian apex doesn’t work, which is many on server 29. People who have the mantis clearly spent money to have it. Would be nice if scopely finally fixed this issue for a game mechanic they created to be spend only at the moment.

[fallen epoch]

Adding to the list

[north spire]

Not meaning to sound rude, its just frustrating it’s been so long now is all. I mean pretty soon after it launched unfortunately. The concept itself is a great idea still in my opinion. Without apex though it’s a long grind and we also have the Bajoran store grind now lol.

[fallen epoch]

Your server is added to the list so over the next few days the script will run to clear stuck hostiles

[silver tree]

Can we please review cargo hold. It still show incorrect cargo@hold of ships in the station and outside. Further I can’t fill my ships cargo (any ship) completely as it stops short of max cargo at a random number.

[ember mason]

Are you runnin SNW La'an below deck? Far as I know her below deck cargo ability is still bugged

[silver tree]

No

[fallen epoch]

This bug is due to mantis research’s applying incorrectly to other ships
@silver tree

[silver tree]

Got ya - is there any timeframe when it might be corrected in an update? 🍻

[fallen epoch]

Not sure but I would expect a while since it took them ages to fix the same issue with faction research

[sullen pier]

No word as yet?

[burnt viper]

@fallen epoch does the script for unstucking hostiles only work on apex? Server 75 has a lot of systems in faction space, swarm, eclipse that have stuck hostiles. I tried putting in a ticket yesterday and got told I put it in the wrong spot with no direction on where to find the right spot.

[fallen epoch]

It works on all hostiles

[timid thistle]

Run the script on all zervers every night!

[knotty musk]

When is $copely going to fix the mess they made by extending ASB permissions to Premiers and Operatives? Put it back!

[azure egret]

@fallen epoch please tell me you guys reverting the change you made to starbase and ranks. its redicoules waking up this morning with people just spending away resources on the starbase all of the suddon. that after carefully laying down a path to upgrade it strategically. ...... not to mention the amount of speedups and superconductors wasted

[fallen epoch]

@tacit obsidian has been collecting feedback about this 😊

[meager reef]

Will the fix for the Starbase mats issue resolve the perma loading screen when trying to even access the Starbase? No one in my alliance has been able to access it for a good wile now.

[kind vale]

Whoever thought this UI change for mantis sting was a good idea should be beaten with a bamboo stick.

[sly tree]

Did they really just say that the fix for the ASB issue is that Scopely stole all the starbase resources?

[boreal ferry]

Jeez that’s even worse than the change to cloaking

[kind vale]

@tacit obsidian would it be possible to get the iOS version fixed for iPhone 14 line before iPhone 15 is released? 😁

[twilit oyster]

Automated Defenses?
It's not lvl 35 locked, it's paywalled ^^
No way to get such things F2P right now, or at least fast enough
They always do that to encourage people buying the new thing

[tacit obsidian]

Hey nothing yet happy to follow up. Sorry for the delay on this.

[livid stone]

@tacit obsidian Apex in actian space in server 43 are even worse now than before the scripts yesterday. They were unstuck for mere hours, but now more systems than before have a stuck apex. It feels like the entire server is trying to farm together in the two or three systems where it is working :). I know you heard it plenty of times today, but the aftermath of the fix script almost seems worse than before it, so something in the code is clunky. If each ship is an instance of that ship object, the code could look at x/y coordinates and reset the instance if coords havent changed in X seconds (unless behind the scenes the object is still in motion, then thats much more difficult). Anyway, becoming quite a large issue amongst the many issues.

[potent shard]

Okay question. I'm assuming that what I circled has to do with the Syndicate correct? Now am I supposed to get points when I complete the task or why is it shown there?

[mossy glacier]

The dailies that have those are boosted by your syndicate abilities.

[boreal ferry]

You get extra bonuses for those rewards based on your syndicate level

[mortal helm]

@tacit obsidian heard your comments regarding the barely extant arc and events this morning. i know you have to toe the company line but to hear players complaining about too much screen time when you have day in and day out repetitive chore like activites (you call them dailies, maybe you've heard of them?) and to think you need to run an "experiment" by gutting an arc is borderline insulting to the playerbase or implies no dev understands the game they make. If it was in fact an experiment, it has FAILED. BADLY. The arc runner during the mantis arc did a great job salvaging a disaster. I see nothing that indicates anyone is doing anything to save this one. This is completely unacceptable and needs immediate action. One more hint of a month like this and I am out and I assure you I won't be alone. I realize i'm one voice among many, but really - nobody at any point ever wanted a joke of an arc like this one. ever.

[potent shard]

@mossy glacier @boreal ferry ah okay thanks. Always wondered but never asked lol.

[worldly torrent]

I don't have the patience for the stella grind. It's not fun. It's a slog.

You grind to get a currency that you spend to get another currency (that's also daily time gated) that you use to participate in ANOTHER grind for ANOTHER currency you spend to buy upgrade parts for a ship you tear apart just to start over again...

It's too long of a grinding loop and doesn't offer an efficient catching up mechanism if your stella falls behind for your level.

[south patio]

Are we having a problem with the servers for personal computers/Laptop sign in… mine is freezing up at 70% game download then freezes.

The problem has been happening for 7 days now. I have put in reports to Scopely through support twice already and ZERO response … yesterday my base had been hit due to the lack of ability to get into the game and set shields … i’m NOT happy.

[sullen pier]

Thanks again.

[fading snow]

Just an FYI about the Mantis systems… on server 44 systems 35, 36, 37 and 38 are broken and cannot be used. 34 is working property but is crowded so took me an hour to fill 38k yesterday. Not fun

[true zealot]

Only time I visit the stella grind is for a bp event or when the rogue/outlaw apex events are running. Otherwise I don't see the point. I do like scopely at least reference past grinds with events. It def is overwhelming for a new player.

[fading snow]

Oh, and also having 1 apex per system? Is this game supposed to be fun or want to make you angry? Asking for myself and 1000 of my friends 😆

[fringe drum]

Had you given 50/50 split of ducat your pack sales been threw the roof... 50 free 50 $ 6 x cost = absolute greed

Such short sighted stupidity scamely your pr/marketing should be fired. 101 long term is profitable to short term $ fact theres not two options your absolutely brain dead. Love the fact your slow moding players opinuon proves your heads in the sand and actually a complete waste time telling you snything.

Oh btw scopely ditch incursions until it is not a boring fest please

[fringe drum]

If there was a goal events ect might be interesting oh lets raid a base is just so borrrrrrrring

@tacit obsidian if you cant provide a solution, to a problem do not comment wete working on it. This is empty promise and does nothing to your credibility !!!

[inner drift]

Scopley, you suck! I spent 3,000 multiphasic points for the syndicate XP and you say sorry by a 5 min speed up! Really! Thats what you think it is worth. What a joke. This game is getting worse by the minute.

[tired heart]

How do we request a refund for the mantis? It's been 2 months and it has never worked properly. First you couldn't target after debuffing, then you couldn't debuff at all, then the apex hostiles stopped working. 2 months is a very long time to not get something we paid for

[fringe drum]

Results are better than lame empty actions. We dont care that your latest content is bugged yet again. Q AND A and testing what we wont so there are not 10 to 15 bugs are not introduced new content. Once a week preferably once a month probs seriously not daily problems....

[inner drift]

You would think with the money they pull in, that they would have a better quality team to test and debug BEFORE release!

[fringe drum]

You expect money for total clusters that dont work your dreaming poor quality does not make money.your communication is so past fail its a joke...player anger would be greatly be reduced had the ba.lls admit theres a problem and addressed it.

[lilac storm]

The daily goal reset is now 8 min after the hour.

[zealous trellis]

@tacit obsidian you guys ever gonna fix the dailies resetting at the same time?

[static spire]

Ever going to fix stuck hostiles? Seriously before you guys add any new features or events, please fix this first. It’s getting unplayable. Thx 🙏

[brave prairie]

#bugsfirstnewcontentsecond

[craggy saddle]

They are onto fixing the hostiles. They have done so on multiple servers but they have to do that for every server manually.
According to Eco, they are working on a more permanent, automatic solution 🙂

[limpid thistle]

No spend events = hoarding uc = no fun.

[stone pike]

lol do we report typos in this channel? There are not 832 degrees in a circle.

[fading lark]

@tacit obsidian Thank you for the update with the Bajoran grind. 🖖🏾

[dry tinsel]

How long will that problem with epic lags take? Why i have to restart my mobile device or game, every 10min, for having a smooth and fast game?
You scopely folks only open hands for 🤑🍆 but you do nothing, for performance improvements. Keep adding content noone needs and takes us players more time /and or money, instead of fixxing game problems

[severe wren]

Since we have more cargo left, grinding Bajo, can we add broken ship parts to Bajo hostiles?

[feral holly]

Or just increase the antimatter a bit

[mortal helm]

The points scored came with that. Sometimes in point corrections they have to send an item but the missing scoring is also part of the package. Not that this excuses the constant scoring issues but thought you would want to know why they did the weird looking thing they did.

[inner drift]

What they did is screwed up! What they gave was crap for the screw up!

[abstract socket]

I'm going to give a compliment here. Kind of.

Scopely actually used the correct ship model AND avatar for the Cardassian Interceptor mission hostile in Those Who Walk Behind part... I think it was 6? 5 or 6. Either way, kudos for bucking a long-running trend of just putting up some random ship model and avatar for a clearly-delineated and well-known faction. It made me stop and actually start reading some of the mission dialog instead of just tapping through it as fast as I could, and I'm glad I did. Garak is fun.

[lilac storm]

And the broken nodes in certain systems that you can’t mine.

[hollow pike]

You’re missing the point. It wasn’t a compensation chest per se, they just used a chest mechanic to apply the missing points, but to do that, a chest has to contain something.

[nova sierra]

You got the points, they were in the bundle. You lost nothing 🙂

[tribal bane]

@tacit obsidian yep you definitely fixed the starbase can’t open it at all 😂😂😂😂

[heady cargo]

Hi FDS ...

[versed tangle]

Another one adding my voice to say the change to ASB permissions is terrible -- how many alliances have had their ASB progress completely messed up because some Operative who wasn't in the loop went mad with all the shiny buttons and blew through days or weeks worth of mats and speedups? I understand maybe this is a solution to dead alliances with an AWOL Admiral and no Commodores, but this screws over potentially every active and coordinated alliance in favour of the aimless.
This change is such an incredibly bad idea, it makes it really hard to stay engaged with the ASB because we can't plan or be strategic. The only solution is to force-demote everyone to below Operative (defeating the point of having other ranks to begin with) or just stop caring about the ASB and let the chips fall where they may. Neither option is appealing.

[heady cargo]

I see they stuffed the PVP up no Korinar no Valdore ... On purpose or broken well we know the answer it is always broken 👍

[untold laurel]

Oh so you’re gonna delete my posts where I complain about a lame payout for broken event scoring? Typical scopely garbage.

How does a 5 minute speed up make up for me spending 3000 syndicate xp and getting no score? Please explain how the “gift” was selected. Surprised it wasn’t a 1 minute speed up TBH. Should be way better for having to put up with this bug laden event arc. Changing loot rewards constantly, stuff not scoring, lag up the wazoo… you’re proud of the state of things? I’d be embarrassed if I worked for you.

[nova sierra]

It wasn’t a “gift”, it was so there was content you could claim in a chest that contained the (invisible) points correction. 🙂

[untold laurel]

I had given up on scopely since they didn’t give the points until 7 hours after the event started so had already finished by killing hostiles, so I didn’t get any points or anything to compensate for the extra time it took. A vague statement more than an hour after the event started that they would “fix” it didn’t exactly inspire confidence.

[brave prairie]

#bugsfirstcontentsecond

[loud cove]

#customersatisfactionoverprofits

[dreamy fable]

New $copley corporate mission statement ?

[hardy scroll]

No ticket packs today

[hardy scroll]

Mmhmm, how about that

[potent silo]

It was escalated

[nova sierra]

@north perch @torn saffron <@&509691205798592532> <@&509691611903426561>
S66 and S67 needs a merger bad, what needs to be done to make this happen?

We cannot even complete PVP events!

[nova sierra]

@tacit obsidian Please can we have the holodeck packs back so we can buy it to play the missions? The packs are missing in action in the store for over a week now……

Please help save our servers!! there are few players left!!

[hearty ore]

Eh. I think Scopely and STFC finally jumped the shark.

[hoary lynx]

@tacit obsidian For the love of god put the starbase building permissions back to Commodore only. Even though we did dozens of announcements ONE person decided to blow all of our speed ups on USELESS upgrades and screw up our whole strategy. It puts a whole week off our starbase growth. FIX IT ASAP

[hearty ore]

Allow any to COLLECT resources, but comm and up for upgrades

[pure plover]

If only Scopely could follow SNW Hemmers officer ability and actually fix what is broken 😮

[regal skiff]

Be great if they clarified if the Armada event was rare/epic only, coz it leaves some of us in a timer bind

[stable timber]

@torn saffron Would it be possible to show the power increases for each level of Favor so we can see ahead, like with research?

[willow mountain]

Please fix the massive amount of bugs in the game

[slender fulcrum]

is this kind of a scopely insider thing: who creates the worst arc? Well, this one is really worthy of an award...

[noble ridge]

But the official discord says avatar.

The in game news makes me want to believe that we were getting a legit means to get these officers besides with Visa.

[inner drift]

I hit the hostiles for the points. I got 5 min speed up. NOthing more than that.

[potent silo]

You completed the event and got the rewards? There wasn't supposed to be any comp for the scoring, only correcting it for people who didn't completed the event yet

[woven gust]

I really really really wish Hemmer was converted back into a Actian hostile loot increase officer. As that seems unlikely, I'd like to see a new officer added with the loot increase.

The short sightedness of the content creators and others complaining really messed things up for the rest of us. The Actian daily grind is awful AND takes forever. The old Hemmer would have been very useful to have for the daily grind.

Instead, Scopely listened to a loud vocal minority and changed an officer that could have helped everyone with this annoying daily grind.

[gilded halo]

So @tacit obsidian ... That QA team...

[edgy harness]

…. Still doesn’t exist

[stable timber]

Almost done with their lunch, any year now...

[swift steppe]

I once had a stokely customer contact that actually worked , it doesn't any more , need another

[vale wasp]

Try the options in #👽-how-to-contact-support

[pseudo thicket]

@tacit obsidian I would still like a response from you regarding the Resistance event, where the scoring was updated after it was launched so everybody could finish it with one purchase of Bajoran rep. Nothing was done though for those that spent early and had to use resources on Bajoran rep again to finish. Yet with scoring errors in the past and with the issue with the Favors event scoring was adjusted for all players or those affected received a compensation chest. I think it is beyond reasonable for those players affected to get their Bajoran credits back, which they may have opted to use for favors or solo armadas. I had put in a ticket, but CS is unwilling to do anything about it, big surprise.

[swift steppe]

I guess I can go through them again next time, with low expectations of any answer, I actually did get acknowledgement from them for a while but seems to be back to the same old silence again.

[hearty ore]

Well, only one actian system (37) works on our server, so it's pretty pointless anyway.

[median vector]

They should've just left that as his below deck ability, instead of whatever the useless one is that he has now.

But then, we'd have a very valuable, effective, helpful epic officer, and we all know that's not allowed.

[sharp marsh]

20 Ultra Recruit Chests for 4 Legate's Decrees? What is Scopely smoking?

[knotty musk]

And telling us to demote our entire alliance to Agent is NOT an acceptable solution, $copely…

[median vector]

We threatened everyone with demotion if anyone else touched it after one operative did

[viral scaffold]

So when is scopley going to allow apple silicon mac users play the game nativly? I am sure some would pay 99.99 for that feature...

[royal thicket]

@tacit obsidian anyone on that can send my ship home? Been stuck for 6 days and I've submitted 3 tickets through support

[vale wasp]

If you received a ticket number, I'd DM Eco with that.

[royal thicket]

Have not received anything back from my ticket submissions

[dim isle]

Hate to drop this in here, and it’s probably been covered, but let me add my voice: FIX THE STUCK HOSTILES. It has been at least two days since you ran the ‘script’ on my server, and in most systems I don’t care that bad, but I CANNOT use my mantis without a MASSIVE time investment, which is NOT what I paid $200 for. I don’t much care how much resources or other things it takes to run that script, it should be run DAILY, at a minimum.

[jaunty turtle]

I've been submitting tickets daily for 3 weeks. CS doesn't care.

[dim isle]

CS can’t fix it. It’s the engineers. I’m kinda close to going to Xsolla over this one. A premium product, still not accessible free-to-play, plus two primes to enhance it, and they are unusable. In any other industry there’s a return policy, even cars and houses.

[jaunty turtle]

I agree with you 100%.
Even Eco ignores it

[dim isle]

In fairness, he’s probably done all he can. He’s a communications guy, and one of the better I’ve seen… and like I said, it’s the engineers. At any rate, I’ve said my piece. Didn’t really expect anything to suddenly change the moment I did.

[craggy saddle]

No he doesn't 👀
He recently gave an update about the script they're working on.
The script is working but has to be rolled out manually for each server. But they are working on a permanent, automatic way

[jaunty turtle]

Still doesnt help me not placing in events because I cant utilize a paid feature.

[zealous trellis]

@tacit obsidian OP36. Swarm Dailies = 17 kills. Faction Hostile Kills = 38 kills min (13/13/12 to do all 3 factions). Borg Probe kills for one full cargo of T9 Vi'dar = 76 kills (+/-); cargo max is 449.5k, so not even enough for the double chest (500k). INCREASE PROBE 33 DROP AMOUNTS!!

[zealous trellis]

And why no cooldown timers on cloak anymore?

[lean pilot]

Were the drop rates for level 42 and 46 faction ships changed from transport in sol, kronos, and romulus? The past 6 weeks or so I've seen terrible rates compared to the past. Always do at least 2 runs a day. used to get 1-2 bps for 42 or 46 ships a day (around 12 per week). now I don't get them daily, and it's down to about 4 a week.

[spring gulch]

Guys guys it’s not scopely’s problem that the hostels are stuck. It’s our laggy phones and computers clogging up scopely’s perfect System. Keep doing you scopely.

[quick cape]

Honestly about the starbase you only need to have a responsible alliance. We have had no problems so far.

[noble needle]

So what's the deal with mantis hostiles. The buffs are all over the place with implementation. Most of the time when I hit one with a buff I get it. There might be a delay before it shows up on the ship map icon but it's there. Lately, at least 1/4th of the time, none of the buffs will apply automatically and I end up activating them manually. Today on my first trip into that space the first hostile I hit activated all three buffs.

[final vapor]

The new rank thing.. that give so much access to the starbase is stupid..
Operative, collect plasma sure.. but to be able to build stuff randomly.. no thanks..
& premier to be able to promote, thats questionable too, especially if they promote em to an operative, who can then build the starbase..

I Understand that it is probably done to help small, leaderless alliances.. but dang, for a big busy one it is potential chaos ..

[robust flare]

Fix the game, stuck in battle, lagg is the worse, restart game every 2 min

[shrewd terrace]

Armadas are not giving accurate points for Battle Pass event.

[north spire]

Server 29. Yet again the actian apex is stuck in many of the systems. 34 lvl was working yesterday and now is not working today. So old systems hadn’t been fixed and now new ones not working again. We did pay for this mantis, it would be nice if this actually worked honestly. Frustrating it’s even worse than it was yesterday now. Like does scopely realize that as of right now this is a paid ship….and they haven’t fixed the issue yet?

[median vector]

They know. Do they care? No.

[vague whale]

Server 34 too. They fixed it halfway by removing the stuck apex, but now it just doesn’t spawn

[green magnet]

Dear devs: what do you intend to do about the unintended consequence of the automated defences systems being too powerful for miner/amalgam equipped oc raiders who then resort to warships to hit - resulting in minimal oc looting (because of small warship boot) and huge oc (the remaining difference) being lost for the automated defence owner?

This oc issue will quickly devalue the benefit that the automated defences perks will ever have for the player.

[willow yoke]

hey guys... AWESOME update... great changes especially regarding Mantis... can't see how long the ship's ability is on cooldown anymore or how long the debuff I just applied to an enemy vessel is active ... but hey, main thing was that the button was changed so it looks different from every other ship ability - WHY???

[fallen epoch]

The info is available on the manage page

[chrome parcel]

If they give mantis bug as much attention as the stupid starbase, it would already be fixed! Thinking it’s time for a new game as I’m sick and tired of suckelys constant neglect of issues and push new content direction! Let’s fix what we are already paying for 👍😡

[dull nova]

@tacit obsidian please read this 👆🏻 you need to get this fixed back. We had to demote everyone to Agent to prevent regular members from tinkering with the ASB. We designated one Commodore to strategize ASB upgrades and manage ASB resources. Why take away our control over how we manage resources???

[willow yoke]

first of all... no it isn't... second of all... even if it was - why make us do three clicks to access the information when previously it was right there in the main screen

[fallen epoch]

Fair point there isn’t actually a timer for the cool-down

[willow yoke]

yeah... but there used to be... it was displayed in the main screen on the bottom over the ship... where you also see countdowns of miners telling you much longer they will be busy mining till either the node is empty or the cargo bay full - but that is now gone... same as the timer I was shown that told me how much longer an affected vessel will suffer from the debuff - also gone... my question is WHY? xD

[fallen epoch]

Yeah seems they moved them then forgot to put a number next to them. I checked the debuff. It tells you the timer at the start but I don’t see time remaining. Although I do see that for the cool-down just not in seconds

[willow yoke]

I don't see any cooldown displayed anywhere... be it seconds, minutes or hours... just the fact that it IS on cooldown - which I also know cause the new oversized button they created that you need to click to use the ability now is not there (or grey - not 100% sure) when the cooldown is still active

[mortal helm]

Sounds very much like it makes it less worthwhile to hit those ships. Why would anyone care if the person hitting their miner gets less of their op cargo?

[fallen epoch]

The cool-down is the icon that you use to cloak. It works for all Mantis Cerritos Cloaks

[willow yoke]

this button that you describe now only tells you in advance how long the debuff will be affecting the target and after you used it, it tells you that the cooldown is active - without a time... BUT: that button USED to be the button that you needed to hit in order to actually use the ship's ability - same as with all other ships with such abilities (cloaking etc) why the hell did they change it and give us that new oversized button (see the first of my three screenshots earlier) and remove all the timers involved??

[humble grove]

Careful, clicking this will spend your Ultras. I just wanted to find out how many decree's I would get.... (you get 1180 decrees)

[weary mist]

Really?! Putting that underneath gifts is really screwy. Lost my ultra tokens I was saving. Cool. Thanks. Not a gift. Rude

[ember cosmos]

I think we need more armada events… but first we need to reduce the drop rate of directives even more without telling the players

[split quarry]

16k for 4
32k for 6 Dukat shards 😡

[lament scroll]

Ouch that wasn’t nice putting that collection in the gift tab 😡

[random folio]

Gotta be kidding me scopely. I did a prime research yesterday cause there were no "spend materials" events on the calendar and then you add one today for Hemmer 🤬

[leaden haven]

Surely if you're on discord you saw the official announcement from Scopley yesterday about todays spending event?

[random folio]

Did the research before the announcement.

[nocturne steeple]

Its a total rip off scam to reduce the number of tokens that have been put into the game. and they tricked everyone by putting it in the gift area. Scopley is an underhanded dirt company, but this is approaching just true evil levels of villiany.

[leaden haven]

Well I'm sorry for your loss, Hemmer isn't worth much anyways so you're not missing out really

[split quarry]

Yeah it was pretty sneaky putting it into the gift section, I was just lucky I had planned to buy the packs after I realised I clicked it but Scopley can kiss my money good bye…..none of my alliance mates are buying it now after my results.

[plucky token]

Why in the WORLD would you make it so clicking the gift with a View button STEAL 16K of Recruit Tokens! Give ‘em back!!! Thief! Thief! Thief!! Cmon, Scopley!!!

[bronze axle]

This arc is garbage. Everything is just high cost and minimal rewards. EVERYTHING. A lot of potential after last month and completely nose dived. The solo armadas while they seemed cool at first now it seems to have put everybody over the edge and activity has dropped off the charts.

[cursive snow]

Sourcing for the cardassian officers is cruel. Considering they are a worse all purpose crew than strike team, and strike team was far easier to obtain for cash or without spending, this is messed up

[bronze axle]

“Gift” 😔💩👎🤦‍♂️😡

[rocky raptor]

^^this. Wtaf. I didn't want to convert my tokens. You can have the 5x gul dukat shards back. I want my tokens back. @tacit obsidian

[supple thistle]

1 point per hostile is insane over 5500. You rinsed our amarda directives and don't replace them and just want us to buy them to complete basic events.

[timid thistle]

@tacit obsidian hello?? Everyone is angry and want some kind of responce. @tacit obsidian are you out there??? You can't hide for ever @tacit obsidian

[fallen epoch]

He doesn’t work weekends

[timid thistle]

He barely responded last week and didnt address anything brought up last weekend. Seriously, things are litteraly melting down, your intire player base is angry and people are leaving in droves. Constant issues being brought up and all i get is he doesnt work on the weekend?!?

Im on my last straw with this game and scoply all together. They should be ashamed of themselves for ruining decades of star trek content they could have used for this game, they could have made money off us for years!

[fallen epoch]

Eco does other things other than discord. Anything from last weekend was sent to Eco by the Mods and Epic Commanders so he was fully aware of what was happening and working behind the scenes to get things sorted

[timid thistle]

Cool story bro... guess ill go play another game

Wish i could enjoy stfc with my alliance mates, but i cant enjoy 30 hours of grind in 1 day,

Don't have a way to source armada starts

[wind vortex]

ANOTHER armada event? ANOTHER ONE? Really?!?
And the alternative is to kill FIVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED Cardassian hostiles?

Woooow Scopely, have you shorted your own stock or something? This is ridiculous.

[fossil girder]

@tacit obsidian base locations should be greyed out in admin tooling, no need for any admin to look up a players base location. I was a head admin for over 7 years .
Our technical game manager ensured that any field open to abuse was greyed out.
Have sent several tickets but all I get back is please send a video of the anomaly 😂

It’s simpel I move to any random empty system anywhere in the universe, travel 7 to 11 minutes, kill an enemy , hit return to base and a cloaked enemy with the right pvp crew is waiting. Coincidence? What are the odds? and not once but several times.
Do the same after a certain time stamp and I can kill any amount I want without a problem.
Please pass this on to the technical manager to run a query who searches for base locations in the logging database.

[lament narwhal]

Allowing operatives and up to upgrade or speed up the starbase is off the mark. Seems like this should be commodores and admirals only.

[serene cave]

Redo the G4 rare armada chest.....

[timid thistle]

Ive noe been warned lol what ever im basically out the door with stfc anyways

[round bear]

Halfway though the month. The sourcing this month👌 @tacit obsidian

[hoary blade]

Well maybe we need a new community manager he doesn't seem to care what the players want or be around when most events people play are around

[fallen epoch]

Thats an opinion i seriously dont agree with

[dreamy fable]

Eco actually seems to care and try to help the community. It’s the devs that need to be fired

[hoary blade]

Watch rev dec vid eco said more people are playing so there no issues with events .. he don't look at what people are saying just numbers that not caring about what the players feel

[bronze axle]

Only reason I can imagine they launch and event requiring so many armadas and hostiles. They want to inflate numbers. sUCcESfuLl aRc! There should be a satisfaction metric not just how many buttons get tapped.

[nova sierra]

We're all better with Eco than without him. He can only do what is within his job responsibilities.

Aside from that, Please 👏 fix 👏 the 👏 zoom 👏 issue! (Where it constantly zooms in on the system when I return from another screen).

[devout ermine]

@tacit obsidian Are these Pay2play events going to be the new standard? It’s not like sourcing for rare and epic armada directives have increased with this huge increase in directives needed for events.

[valid willow]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-latinum-quark-star-trek-star-trek-quark-latinum-gif-26240769

The game is being killed, soon enough there will be an announcement that stfc 2 is coming so that they can charge the whales all over again

[north spire]

Yup. Bought the Mantis but don’t care to fix the issue…let’s just push new content instead. Enough already. Fix the dang apex in the systems already scopely especially since you want to add more grinding to the game.

[round bear]

This sums it up pretty well

[round bear]

They only had you give up 240 shards for 40 shards. Per 16k. What’s the complaint here? @supple thistle it’s only a years worth of directives in 3 events. What’s your problem?

[alpine ferry]

There is a new script that now runs each day resetting hostiles, if doesn’t work raise it with them 👍🏻

[north spire]

Ok will do. Definitely isn’t working for server 29. Stuck ships may be fixed at times. But no apex spawn like in our lvl 24 & 25 systems for instance. So their “fix” definitely isn’t a fix.

[vivid gale]

How is it that a premier can upgrade the alliance Star base? I thought it was only commander and admiral that could do that

[fringe drum]

Changed access to operative and up

[nova sierra]

whoever fixed the window snapping problems on the pc client thank you so much

[gritty ibex]

What’s the point of understanding good crew combos when full strike team is this OP? How is this even a close battle? Am I supposed to spend $400 to get dukat now?

[halcyon wyvern]

You mean a full ST crew beats a low powered 42 UC without a full ST? The horror. Get a full ST crew and then see how it stacks up before crying about it?

[edgy harness]

This is funny, because if you knew how to crew you’d still beat that augur

[dire rose]

If the amount that the refinery gives is terrible despite players constantly complaining about it, how about being able to refine every 3 hrs instead of 10, the constant armada events are becoming very annoying as we only get 1 unc every week, you add more to the pay-out and include epic and rare based on players level, most of the daily events are pathetic as you go past lvl 40 why are these not increased based on a players level!!

[fluid crystal]

I'd bet yuki (cap) charv and hg worf would have taken the augur out.. (all health below)

[halcyon wyvern]

Lol ops 19 rage. Probably not the correct place to post it though. Open up a ticket with scopely

[potent shard]

I clicked on report player in game. Is there a specific place I can go to? I dunno lol😂@halcyon wyvern

[vale wasp]

Use an option in #👽-how-to-contact-support , I'd suggest email.

[scarlet merlin]

Just a question, is there any talk of there being a f2p route ahead to source the Mantis?

[fringe drum]

Cant answer that, start working on battleship research. Alot bugged systems with mantis, also letting those paid for it be higher systems . Than new mantis players.

[hallow geyser]

this is what 200,000 uncommon directives are worth in scopely's eyes....

[brave prairie]

next recruiting option beyond players handling nicely. next event(friend and foe) beyond an average work load ( 2 times more then cosmic clean up). nothing getting better.

[brave prairie]

#bugsfirstcontentsecond

[wind vortex]

Watch them repeat this obscene armada event tomorrow like they did last time.

[native lichen]

Yup, I'm waiting for that to happen. Likr many, I'm out of armada directives now so a fourth run of that event in a single month means no completion for a lot of people.

[supple thistle]

So logged on this morning to more lag.

Blank systems. Stuck ships, ship going where it likes and refusing to target ships when they finally appear.

No its not my connection I tried the neighbors no it's not my phone I use 2 different ones and yes the localisation cache is cleared.

I'm guessing I'll be told to check my connection and clear the cache.

[arctic flare]

Whats with all the lag just took 6 reloads to get on a node followed by many errors from collecting daily packs and clicking help its pretty much unplayable in its current state its gotta be reflecting badly on sales people will just play something else

[winter citrus]

Could we update the monthly 30day chest ? 200 uncommon 3* on 42 seems a bit low nowadays

[chrome crown]

Can you fix your lag please. I keep loosing nodes and I can join in on the amarda’s

[modest fern]

The Mobile Client is more like a Bad memory from the History. The Future is the PC Client. I would say Scopley want that we only use the PC Client because they dont get the Android Fragmentation in their Programming

[frigid perch]

I do wonder if their game client has memory problems. I have an S10 with 1/2 TB storage and boatloads of space, yet after playing most of the day the zoom issue starts, things start going pink, screen load times slow down etc (activating..) even with nothing else running. 🤷‍♂️

[native lichen]

And therein lies a problem: if I wanted to play a PC game, I'd go and buy a proper PC game. I play STFC because it's a mobile game 🤷‍♂️ I suspect I'm not alone in this regard.

[modest fern]

I would say all Players before the Release of the PC Client want to Play on their mobile device

[hollow pike]

Mobile client has always had horrendous memory leak. Just another thing that’s never been addressed properly

[tawdry swift]

So you can't pvp without buying an overpowered crew....can't complete events unless you buy armada directives....watch to go scopley you've figured out how to drive your customer base away👍

[viral nest]

Change who can build or upgrade the starbase to commodores and admirals

[subtle nacelle]

Tried to get to ops 45 during this spend event. This game is unplayable, pure and simple. The amount of resources needed is endless, constantly having to choose between station or ships, unable to do both at the same time

[supple thistle]

It's not you despite what support says I use 2 phones sometimes same results on both

[woven hollow]

Please, for the love of Pete, reinstate commodore + control of the alliance starbase.

[uneven thistle]

This comment seems one-sided, cos the player complained about op strike team. Which it still is. It is overpowered. Full stop. Scopely knows that and tries to „balance“ in bringing forth another overpowered cardassian strike team.

All other officer combos will become insignificant over time.

Guess what you got to pay when explorer strike team comes up.

For me, these STs reduce a lot of fun in the game.

[jolly saddle]

Scopely you win, I've uninstalled 👋

[nova sierra]

Anyone know where i can find this? At reset ive looked in my dailies, gifts, bajorn faction and nothing.

[atomic plover]

Has anyone managed to a one-trip dominion hostile hunt and come back with enough to do a full pull? Because it seems like the maths is off. Reducing both the loot and the amount needed for a full pull by the same amount leaves us in exactly the same position as before 😦

[fallen epoch]

See #🤝-help-each-other 🖖

[fallen epoch]

Depends on the ship

[vale wasp]

Before the change my ship took two trips for a refine, 100k cargo capacity and ~200k refinery cost. After the change my ship can gather 15k loot before exploding. So every 4 trips I'd have 3 refines.

Players with a stronger ship can do even better. One player in my ops level can gather 25k per trip, a full refine+ so there is room to improve if you aren't there yet.

[atomic plover]

@nova sierra it is in Bajoran Faction, in the main block, not the bit down the side

@fallen epoch @candle I sent two, augur to Alafoss and Jelly to Kurill and still only came back with about 4k in total. That still means two trips to hit 9k for a full pull. I don't see how the fix has fixed anything. The faction has some nice stuff in but the grind is appallingly. If I hit lower level hostiles it would take hours to get the 9k needed for a full pull. What am I doing wrong?!

Also why are the solo armadas so unbalanced between 35 and 40. Tried a 40 unc again today with augur, jelly and ent, 3 exo's on, cerritos support on two ships, burning, hull breach and mitigation crews. I forgot to cloak, but still couldn't take it down. Given how hard it is to get a full pull on the hostiles, and therefore how hard it is to get armada directives, only being able to hit 35s is barely worth the effort.

[fallen epoch]

Time to upgrade your ships and research then 😊

Also crews can make a difference I’ve heard people don’t use PMC for the hostiles they use other crews

[atomic plover]

Again, so helpful 🙈! My research is pretty good and I'm working on my ships, but I'm far from the only one having this problem. I've yet to meet anyone on my server who is knocking this out the park so something isn't right. What are you using then that makes it so easy for you to get a full load relatively quickly? Is this something for only the bigger players then? I thought Scopely were trying to help players balance rl and the game. Having to grind dom hostiles for hours is not a good balance for the return we are all getting.

[stiff latch]

<@&509691205798592532> I like the new automated defenses. It'll slow down the little terrorists on each server. I only have one problem with it and I'm sure everyone else will as well. The new automated defenses make it darn near impossible to clear znodes. Once mining slows way down because of this, the game is going to grind to a halt. Might want to consider active mining as a requirement for use and not just sitting on a node.

[vale wasp]

Your ship development isn't there yet. When you get to the point where filling a tenth of the cargo is easy, then you'd see that under the old system, you'd have to fly home, while under the current one you could continue to grind until your hull gives out.

As for what I'm using, a T4 valdore, in Hyra vs everything cept 50 BS/Ints. If your cargo income is too low, then I'd try a harder system and consider getting the hostile loot favor.

[faint snow]

for me DS9 is the worst experience since i started playing a few years ago. the sms milestones require far too much time to complete and the rewards are very bad. players like me will fase out from this game eventually. for the first time ever i have not purchased even the small battlepass. The events are also too complicated to understand.

[analog plank]

My issue is warp locks they installed on systems. At 41 I can't get a g4 ship so stuck hunting in the wp 70 system. A t8 epic naked is not underpowered in any other way except here.

[vale wasp]

Warp range was a continuing issue for our G4 players, and one of the reasons I knew I didn't want to skip 42s.

[old seal]

Another Armada event and another Domination event...the lack of imagination is beyond a joke to make a joke.

[quick cape]

Yayyy more cardassian armada events!...NOT!

S114 continues to abstain like in the previous two.

[regal turret]

Where is today's jelly brawl??!!

[woeful rapids]

the entire attitude of scopely this arc seems to be "pay up or don't participate", bonus cheques feeling a little light were they?

[atomic breach]

Only result will be more and more players stopping to play

[quaint nimbus]

Lags … yeah … not funny 😡

[old seal]

DS9 is the worst arc ever ...it's so unbelievably painful to play. The lack of communication from Scopely etc makes it even worse.

[lilac turret]

@tacit obsidian can you confirm the lack of credits for <op40 in the Kira solo armada event is intended (despite your announcement calling out credits)

[dusty token]

Can we possibly communicate better? Solo armada event today. I had 7 of them saved up a couple days ago and used them to get a chest. Now today there's an event with no notice and now I can't complete it without buying a pack, but I would have had plenty with a little notice.

[dusty token]

I don't know what level your ships are, but my t8 ent t9 d4 and t5 augur did fine on 40s. With rng, sometimes I lose the augur, but other times all 3 ships end up at half health.

For hostiles, I crew pmc on the d4, pbt on the ent and snw pike ortegas synergy on the augur. The bigger two do kurill just fine and I usually run out of hostiles or get bored long before hull is an issue.

[cinder citrus]

Any ETA on when starbase permissions will be fixed, shouldn't take that long....

[nova sierra]

They’re not broken; the release notes identified them as an intentional change.

[wind vortex]

And there it is. Completely unable to learn and adapt.

[cinder citrus]

Yeah, but the community clearly has already said we wanted it changed and Eco said he would talk to the devs about it. Literally day 1!

[nova sierra]

Yes; but as an intentional change it means there were “reasons” behind it; I would expect that to mean some time needing to pass to discuss that. If it was “broken” I imagine it would be fairly quickly undone…

[final crown]

Then maybe it is time for Scopely to tell us what those reasons are. Because this was not a change anyone asked for, and frankly considered dumb. I don’t see the upside to this change. I’d like Scopely to explain it

[grizzled plume]

Can scopley please reorganise the Items / Inventory section, it was a mess 3 years ago, and just gotten worse and worse with extra items sprinkled all over the place. Or let us organise it ourselves. Getting harder and harder to find stuff if you want to check what you have.

[pulsar sphinx]

Scopely having the alliance Star base upgrades available at operative is too low.

[timid thistle]

Theres a $99 organize your inventory pack... gotta buy 4 of em to do it tho

[hexed pelican]

Why was ASB control at ranks below commodore added? There's a reason not everyone is commodore, all these guys ruin all plans by randomly upgrading stuff... This change should have been a setting at worst...

[round bear]

You didn’t hear? Pvp is not for poor people anymore

[devout hatch]

Who the heck thought it was a good idea to allow all ranks but agent to deal with the alliance base? And I won't believe the pat statement that "we didn't want to have people feel left out" as the reason bc I doubt people CARED about that when there's about 15000 other bugs to fix

Also the solution that STFC offered my officer was to demote everyone to agent who was not on the starbase team and that response is so patently absurd I'm not sure where to even start! If you're gonna have ranks, HAVE RANKS. HAVE THEM MATTER. Reducing people in rank to agent removes some of the more useful stuff like being able to see where everyone else is based.

You're really telling me that I need to have 60 Agents, 8 commodores and 1 Admiral? IS that really what's being said? And that if we want to promote anyone to the two ranks before commodore we have to give them the The Talk about not wasting resources that aren't theirs to spend? There's a reason we LOCK stuff away.

[round bear]

Congrats on breaking the vice grip

[timid thistle]

I lost 4 from my alliance and another 30 across the server to my knowledge today

[jolly saddle]

Why thank you sir, a weight has been lifted and not from my wallet for a change

[round bear]

I’ve taken the first step towards this. Not even looking at events. Still gonna listen to Ultimatdjz?

[jolly saddle]

Probably for the stupid news 🤣

[median eagle]

@tacit obsidian can you confirm if this change in events focus towards Pay to Play is a permanent one? It frankly feels like a con to pay for a battlepass only to find out the events can't be completed without spending more. If Scopely only want whales playing STFC, that's fine but at least have the courtesy to let those of us only prepared to spend €20 or so a month on the game that we're not wanted so we can quit and find a new game from a developer who'll value our custom.

[jolly saddle]

While I agree, scopely isn't listening, a year ago the community said it was too much to do, so scopely added 3 more Grindy mechanics

[nova sierra]

Can anyone provide me an explanation for how players with same scores on SLB events are ranked? Scopely has not given me one.

[fallen epoch]

It’s random

[nova sierra]

Doesnt seem like it as ive seen certain players above other certain players multiple times when scores are the same.

[hexed pelican]

The one reaching the score last will be on top. Has been a tactic in the past every time an SLB with very discretised scoring was happening

[fringe drum]

Ya know scopely discord more interesting than your game. Least here theres intelligence. You truly worked on ds9 for 9 months to produce such garbage ds9. The event and content are extremely boring. Was this plan ?

[warped vault]

Whats up with the Officer Trait XP Away team mission. I rarely get this "Uncommon" mission while I get several of the others constantly. For an "Uncommon" It's more Rare than any rare.

[fringe drum]

Heres a tip, you want money. That requires players not bored to death. Will your continual grind and pointless events with cra.p effort to rewards. And company earning millions to not reduce grind bugs. But add to them each month good luck with that business plan.

[vale wasp]

#🌌-galaxy-chat message

[covert ledge]

Presume someone has mentioned, but would like to add my vote for suppressing the app notifications for solo armadas. It’s nice that alliance chat isn’t spammed with them, but getting app notifications is still annoying and tempting to turn them off which is not likely intended outcome.

[unique forge]

The only further feedback I can give on this arc is this. I have been playing this game for four years, I always buy the battle pass this month I will not be.

[crystal moth]

Please restore ability cooldown timers displaying on the drydock slots. Guessing how much time is left based on how filled the ability button is is imprecise. Easier to see if it's off cooldown or how close it is by glancing at the drydock slots, rather than having to select the ship.

[dull nova]

We had to demote everyone from Operative to Agent to prevent them from spending speedups or starting new builds on a whim. We have a dedicated Commodore for ASB and Scopley doesn’t seem to care for us strategizing.

@tacit obsidian please have them fix this asap

[timid thistle]

Remember to write an honest review in your app store or adjust your old one 👍

[devout hatch]

We've had three separate players use up valuable speed ups (and believe me I have thoughts about people who press buttons without reading anything). We also had a commodore in charge with 2 others on the team and a plan and a spreadsheet. That has had to be modified THREE TIMES NOW.

[dull nova]

I’ve seen a lot of people taking about this but nothing from @tacit obsidian or the <@&509691205798592532>. Can anyone confirm when this thoughtless change will be fixed?

[devout hatch]

Our theory is that we weren't buying enough packs because we were all being careful with our resources.

[dusky temple]

I do think they like keeping a certain amount of chaos and frustration in the game. PVP losses: maybe if I upgraded ($), event change: but I just spent my mats/directives ($). Maybe the permission change on starbase was another way to sew chaos and drive sales

[vagrant gyro]

@tacit obsidian <@&509691205798592532> I anyone actually going to bother acknowledge the feedback and do something about it, otherwise what is the point of this channel?

[vale wasp]

This channel is for players to evaluate game features and post their collected thoughts on the subject without excessive discussion or debate.

[wise notch]

The lags are getting ridiculus. We had 3 failed armadas yesterday as ships couldn't make it to their designated armadas, sometimes less leg-ridden members could fill up, unstarred and usually at much lower power, but still the armadas failed as the ships needed couldn't make it.
And now this morning those problems continue... 1 ship stuck in combat for 2 minutes now and another fails to engage in combat for well over a minute now. targeting the hostile over and over and over again, ship flying there, icons meeting but no combat starts and the hostile continues flying around. Especially annoying when the hostile is a scout and others in the system are less lag-ridden.

FIX YOUR SERVER PROBLEMS

great. now even feedback concerning the server problems and lag issue is getting blocked by a bot. Just because of some caps-lock for high-lighting?

[brazen prism]

Mantis grinding is the same as medieval torture on a rack. After hours your arms and legs fall apart from misery, and you still don't have enough resources for upgrade or anything else. This is true virtual torture to get permanent mouse arm, smashed eyes and seat spots

[wise notch]

especially nasty, considering the Mantis atm is a pay-2-play ship...

[toxic acorn]

@north perch since you are a dev, maybe you can help me: why isn't it possible for the game to calculate correctly, where your ship has to stop in the Armada circle, to successfully compete in an Armada? Why does it fly ALL THE WAY TO THE END? why can't it just stop at the outer edge of the circle, where it would be authorized to compete in the Armada? That's just stupid

[mossy leaf]

To be fair. The actual mechanics they developed (the solo armadas loop) are interesting. Are there some areas for improvement? Sure, esp the gap between the 35s and the 40s that make 35-39 feel like an afterthought. Improved sourcing for the UC directives would make the loop much more engaging bc it would give us the ability to experiment, try to punch up without fear that if we do, we’ve ruined our only chance for a pull that day (running one a day is kind of meh). But the actual Bajoran faction loop itself is interesting, the favors are useful, and we get options to choose which we prioritize most for our own gameplay. They even did it without requiring an additional drain on existing in-game resources.

EVENTS, on the other hand. 🤮 Well, that’s a separate post for the events feedback channel.

[sterile lintel]

Guys can you work on a way how we can farm directive abit like the exchange ones or even let us exchange the exchange directives for normal ones

[native lichen]

Just what I wanted in my life, more annoying red number markers on my display this time for faction store 🤦

[quick cape]

Some of these bugs were good to be corrected, but the notifications..............

[sand bear]

More red number badges? Really?

[obtuse aurora]

Yay an update with NEW NOTIFICATIONS, like we don't have enough of those already 🤣

[cursive eagle]

Can we please chill with the red pips?

[native lichen]

They're worse than tribbles. Soon there'll be one million seven hundred seventy one thousand five hundred sixty one of the things cluttering our screens

[brazen prism]

Is this a sick joke? Now we have all over the game red ... This is EXTREMELY ANNOYING SCOPELY!!😿

[steel escarp]

Really??? We needed more Red notices for stuff. Players constantly complain about the last add of all the red notices and now you go through and I have 74 more red pips in my faction store. Do you even read the feedback players give? This is absurd and they are completely wasted. This doesn't help anyone know there is new stuff; if anything this makes it harder to tell when there is new stuff because you have notification overload. STOP WITH THE NOTIFICATIONS!!!!

[sand bear]

Why are more notifications being added? Nobody asked for this. Nobody wants this. Whatever time went to add and test this could have gone towards fixing one of the many other major issues that need fixing now.

[manic tendon]

I think the notification would be far more useful if they were configurable - having these red pips everywhere has the opposite to your intended effect. If you instead made these configurable, they would be far more useful.

[steep socket]

Quit your improvements that no one asked for and fix the bugs and lag…. We don’t need pips on 50 things we will not click

[restive echo]

whoever decided to add in notifications for faction store needs taken outside and introduced to a woman you have way too much free time stop messing with the notifications

[brazen prism]

Time for voting - remove the red notification 🚫 or more

[lunar falcon]

Yeah...new red numbers!!!! Excitement over...

[median vector]

So glad the bug fixes included the stuck hostiles. Oh, wait... 🙄

[vivid breach]

GET. RID. OF. THE. NOTIFICATION. FLAGS.

We don’t need MORE!

and now my battle log entries won’t mark as read so now there’s an extra one that’s stuck on !

Come on, @tacit obsidian. Listen to the audience

[analog dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/bigdil-pip-pip-lagaf-vincent-lagaf-le-bigdil-gif-24819551

[wanton dust]

@pulsar leaf We do not want more notifications. We want to send help to our alliance without having to reset our zoom settings. We want to be able to play for 30 minutes without having to restart. We want the stuck hostiles reset. And for the love of all that is holy, FIX THE LAG!

[lusty niche]

What the actual fudge? Do you want our death???

[fiery trench]

that defines the difference between well meant and well done 😉

[steep socket]

They are playing a game of Russian roulette.. every feature no one asked for vs not fixing the needed bugs.. STUCK SHIPS NEED FIXING #NoMorePIPS

[lusty niche]

Remove the pips!!!
NO PLAYER ASKED THEM!!!!

Why don't you paint the whole screen red?

Ask the players about what helps them and what doesn't!!!

Do you really think overflowing us with pips will help your money making?

NO BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT THE SCREEN NOW!!!

[robust flare]

Fix the GAME for fixks sake, new update to fix bugs ookaaay, this new update makes it worse now

[craggy nimbus]

@pulsar leaf @tacit obsidian see that box that says Mark as read? after this last update, all functionality is gone!
Fix one break 20!

[quick cape]

One of the many such messages in the second alliance in the server 114, normally full of buying packs.

[final crown]

They also still didn't make any changes to starbase permissions. Operatives can still spend resources on starbases

[patent tusk]

Is it possible to make daily tasks “lock-able”? So many times I accidentally claim the ones for my champion faction which sends me back to black hole with other factions…. So annoying…. Just wish there was a way to lock certain tasks from completing 🤷🏼‍♀️

[next plank]

Why are we not seeing:
Fixed an issue where Operatives were allowed to upgrade Starbase buildings.?

[white glacier]

Could you please do another update where you add a bajillion red dots, move some menus to weird places and accidentally break something totally random but MAKE SURE not to fix Actians, stuck hostiles, fixed zoom or lag?

Thx bye

[cedar kiln]

Pip pip pooray!

[lusty niche]

How come every decision they take is the wrong one?
If they were genuinely trying, we could expect half of their decision would be good, but recently, the game gets less and less appealing.
Every time, they sneak an update that destroys the game Quality of Life.

I'm amazed at that much level of villainhood.

Where are our superheroes to save the day? 😭😭😭😭

[soft wing]

Improved?

[nova sierra]

Yeah, no, this isn't an improvement.

Basic UX: If you have too much of something, it gets ignored.

Scopely UX: MOAR!

[glass dragon]

TOO MANY PIPS 🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫

[wise notch]

wait for the special offer: "Remove markers - $99.99" which will remove all red markers fron any menu. Get it on a monthly subscription.
Buy it now, or next update will add flashing to the pips.

[soft wing]

Interesting apparently it’s an improvement. Silly me.

[dreamy quest]

thought we had already all agreed as a playerbase and with the devs that a notification for everything was a bad idea

[restive echo]

ah sorry to bust your bubble but they dont care what we think lol

[wise notch]

I am actually waiting for a pop up whenever a killable hostile is created in a system I have a ship in. I might miss that vital information otherwise

[lone swift]

REMOVE THE PIPS

[rough belfry]

Everyone: we hate all the red markers!

Literally everyone: too many red markers! GET RID OF THEM!

Scopely:

[muted osprey]

how to increase lag👇

[frigid perch]

I think we need that red pip gif again, the one with thousands of the red pips.

[shrewd rover]

Having an indicator on everything is basically the same as an indicator on nothing. We need an option to remove these

[valid willow]

You need to look at the grind you expect from players;
Mining; ore crys gas; lat and concentrated lat; 12&3* iso; data
Hostiles; FKR; swarms; borg; exchange; jemhadar; unknown hostiles(discovery); supply ships(amalgam); mantis hostiles (if they worked)
And what reward do we get for playing? event rewards that are soo poor that they are not even worth trying the game requires re-balancing you need to increase the reward drops update the 24hr chests to include armada directives and remove the requirement to refine certain materials for upgrades and maybe you might start to win back the gaming community

[dreamy fable]

@torn saffron @tacit obsidian Are you guys serious? How does this improve my game play? Stop this nonsense and Fix The Freaking Game.🤬

[pliant meteor]

The update that scopley just did made it so I can't get to the reserch screen what the hell did they do ?

[muted osprey]

the red dots in factions disappear once you open the tab

[dreamy fable]

That’s not the point. Just another wasted update that ignores the very serious problems with the game like the broken Actian/Mantis mechanics and the inadequate servers/lag.

[spare tree]

Can we please revert the the alliance roles back to where only commodores and admirals can upgrade the alliance base? Its unbelievable to me how this got "okayed" in the first place.

[muted osprey]

yeah i know. i said as much in my previous post where i said "how to increase lag"

[dreamy fable]

The devs don’t play. They have no clue how these changes impact people who do.

[spare tree]

Oh that's quite clear. We get to save up another 100k b/c 2 separate operatives decided to speed up and upgrade plasma harvesters 😮‍💨

[frigid perch]

And this is a "bug fix" build?!? 🤣🤣🤣 How on earth does this stuff get into production? 🤦‍♂️

[sand bear]

Could the devs remove all current pips, and add one new one for open support tickets? Thanks!

[lusty niche]

You need to add pips on pips whenever a pip is created so that we may see that pip is there

[muted osprey]

pipping aint easy

[maiden pilot]

@tacit obsidian people are getting screwed by this update. Not able to conduct research for hemmer auction. This update is about to screw a friend of mine out of keeping his place in the lb!

[mighty swift]

What this guy said! I was spamming research to climb the Hemmer LB and now I’m hosed. Already dropped to 5th place!

6th place now 😡

[dreamy fable]

What makes you think the two devs that are in this discord right now care? Right @twilit mango @torn saffron

[mighty swift]

Because they won’t get another dime from me if they don’t make this right

[kind vale]

@tacit obsidian what is the major problem with the UI team? There have now been 3 iOS client updates since iPhone 14 was released and none have addressed the iPhone 14 display issues.

[slate crown]

we dont need THIS. please remove it.

[neat pier]

Why all the extra red marks? Too many negates the usefulness of having them.

[polar basin]

With the alliance reputation system, you are effectively removing the freedom of players to join another alliance. And thus you are removing one significant social element of game play. Is there any rationale for it? @tacit obsidian

[near flame]

This event is so steep to complete its getting lame that you have it over and over. Either drop the bar so you can easily complete it, or stop having it. You no joke have to send to over 40 uncommon armadas to complete if you don’t go to epics or rare. Stupid. I never miss an event or daily and yesterday I didn’t even try. I cut and let go

[untold swallow]

How about fixing the gift section, the claim button is the whole icon. It shouldn’t be that way, I’m still trying to get my ultra recruit credits back after accidentally cashing them in. No other buttons are that huge

[vivid breach]

Gladys Knight would be VERY UNHAPPY with these pips

[nova sierra]

Absolutely had enough. That is three solo armadas that failed yesterday because Shield Recycling didn’t work, one rare, and another rare that failed today because the Jellyfish suddenly showed not joined at 12 seconds remaining and didn’t participate. These are bugs that affect both a player’s ability to complete events, and ones that affect their ability to earn rewards, and all anyone gets on this sorta stuff is radio silence or platitudes from support.

The game, the whole thing needs someone to sit down and review it end-to-end. No roadmaps, no UI tweaks so people know they’ve got stuff to do. The players know they have stuff to do; they just cannot get through all of it any more. Let me walk you through a life in the day of Ops 45.

[urban lodge]

Yes pop off

[nova sierra]

I wake up, I spend circa 20-30 minutes collecting various items. I then set miners back out for the morning’s G4 mining, usually waiting an hour for a mine because of stupid RoE rules. At the same time, I send my Franklin A to go do 25 swarms, and my Valdore to go get some more scouts. Because I’m not the only one getting scouts, I’ll be there for maybe three or four hours waiting for that to happen - but good news, in that time I’ve taken my Franklin home and sent out my Mantis. An hour and a half later, that’s finished, I can recrew that slot and go do Borg grind. Another hour and a half passes, I’ve completed that grind and now I can consider starting the hour and a half session of actively mining Isogen. My miners can come home now, sometimes I’ve neglected them and someone has done that job for me. If I’m in the mood, I’ll go send a miner over to get some data, and my Discovery can go and mine mushrooms. That bit is really tedious. Not that any of this is fun at this point. Don’t forget, gotta go do those events; few hours of joining Cardassian armadas is good for that. At some point around here I venture over to go and do my faction hostiles, and my dominion ones after that now - at least that’s only half an hour each.

[urban lodge]

Getting tiresome!

• Kill Swarm
• Kill Faction targets
• Kill Jem'Hadar (for Bajoran Rep)
• Kill Actian (for Mantis)
• Kill Borg
• Kill with cloaks
• Kill supply ships (Amalgam)
• Mine 3 types of materials (constantly)
• Mine Latinum
• Mine data (until a certain point)
• Mine iso -Level Stella and regularly scrap it
• Away Teams
• Complete Battlepass events
• Complete Ticket Events
• Complete Solo Armadas
• Complete other events
• Complete Team Armadas
• Raid Other Stations (and source them)
• Do Missions
• Support your friends/alliance/Allies
• Buy with $$ "items you can't get elsewhere"

What is this, "The Unemployed Game"? I don’t have 12 hours a day to spend on the game

[hoary blade]

They have nobody managing the game. You can tell by looking at some of the strange stuff that's been added to the game.

[frigid patrol]

Unemployed for the time, fancy job for the store

[woeful mulch]

@scopley How long were we supposed to wait to upgrade our treasury? If we did it already we're screwed. I hate you people so much.

[nova sierra]

So I guess she is only an I incursions reward unless you buy her or part of her for 100

[swift steppe]

My battle inbox has been broken most of the morning

[half ginkgo]

LOLOLOL all of my Archived missions are not longer Archived. Ooops.

[craggy nimbus]

LOL. the mother of all LOLs right there

[half ginkgo]

Wow. 199 Euros. I would think there should be a good deal more in that pack.

[craggy nimbus]

full pack content

[bold fox]

Uh.... on s65, got a news message about a server merge August 2, from 8-11am utc. Something about that date seems off

[potent silo]

Others got that, what server?