#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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hollow thorn
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should be great but

tepid cradle
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CPUs in stock

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But sold out in 1min everytime

digital kernel
tepid cradle
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Anyone know about newegg getting a AMD 5900X? By chance soon

hollow thorn
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what am I looking at, m.2 heatsink?

digital kernel
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The header in the middle

hollow thorn
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Amazon usually gets more Ryzen CPU stock for whatever reason

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lemme zoom in closer ot see the header

tepid cradle
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Really

digital kernel
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It's not labeled and isn't documented

hollow thorn
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I see 5600x stock like once a month on newegg against like once a week on amazon kinda thing, never really see Zen 3 chips on Newegg for some reason

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@digital kernel hm, where is the one you want me to look at? the 2 in the middle-ish are labeled cha_fan and aio_pump

tepid cradle
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That sucks I prefer newegg

digital kernel
tepid cradle
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And I want a 5900X but legit cant find one

digital kernel
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The one on the left

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Looks sorta like usb

hollow thorn
digital kernel
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Yup

hollow thorn
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My guess is TPM maybe?

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those are kinda obscure and not usually labeled

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@digital kernel what board is it?

digital kernel
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Strix b550-f

upper aspen
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What is the best processor I can get with the intel b460 for gaming regardless of price?

hollow thorn
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I mean, 10900 might hurt from bad vrms depending on the board

upper aspen
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Isnt the 10900k a bit better

hollow thorn
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b460 board

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if you're expecting to oc a 10900k on that....

upper aspen
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The board cant oc

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So is it still better then the 10900 without oc?

hollow thorn
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Well, they're the same chip when used on b460

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iirc same boost clocks

median talon
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Does a 5600x outperform a 3900x in gaming??

hollow thorn
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Yes, by a fair bit in most games

median talon
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Damn by a lot, Would it be good for multitasking??

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@hollow thorn

hollow thorn
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decent, worse than 3900x ofc

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it's like half the cores

median talon
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Hmm I think I’m gonna with that instead thanks

heavy magnet
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@median talon just get a 5900 or a 5800

median talon
hollow thorn
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5800x is dumb

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I'd still grab a 5600x tho

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@median talon if you do stuff like editing, go 3900x, if not, or editing not being too serious, 5600x

woeful laurel
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is there difference in ddr3 8500 memory for mac and for pc?

median talon
hollow thorn
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4.8ghz is an oc

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@woeful laurel I'm sorry but ddr3 8500mhz?

median talon
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Ohh okay thanks

woeful laurel
hollow thorn
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Well, the tech itself is the same, (ddr3), but it might be laptop sodimm vs desktop dimms, say a macbook using sodimms, against a desktop using dimms, that kind of thing

woeful laurel
woeful laurel
hollow thorn
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looking through some stuff to refresh my mind on ddr3, it's interesting that they only list 1333mhz, so just want to check if there was some weird things about "no lower than x frequency"

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woeful laurel
hollow thorn
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hm?

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DDR3L is just lower voltage ddr3

woeful laurel
# hollow thorn hm?

Yes. I tried and it didn't work. And I made mistake, this is for Lenovo notebook Dell I upgraded alredy with DDR3L

hollow thorn
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Gonna quote smth real quick
"Memory specified to DDR3L and DDR3U specifications is compatible with the original DDR3 standard, and can run at either the lower voltage or at 1.50 V.[32] However, devices that require DDR3L explicitly, which operate at 1.35 V, such as systems using mobile versions of fourth-generation Intel Core processors, are not compatible with 1.50 V DDR3 memory."

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Ah

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From what I can tell, there's no "apple exclusive" anything, and ddr3 is ddr3, sodimm goes in sodimm.

woeful laurel
hollow thorn
woeful laurel
hollow thorn
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Sorry if I got a bit confusing, you're welcome.

woeful laurel
hollow thorn
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I wish you luck!

mild birch
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@hollow thorn why hello there

hollow thorn
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Why hello there

mild birch
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I'm here to take over this server/debate people Shrug_Derpy

hollow thorn
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it's scary

mild birch
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but ok

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I also do the other stuff but Shrug_Derpy

hollow thorn
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Scariest bit being having 0 idea of what the hell is going on in there

frigid vapor
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5950x vs alderlake?

median talon
elfin warren
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Intel cpu not released yet. 11th gen

frigid vapor
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I9 12900k, i7 12700k,

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And so on...

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No 11th gen is rocket lake

elfin warren
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Yeah

frigid vapor
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12th is alderlake, September they say

median talon
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Ohh Is it supposedly better?

elfin warren
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Youre asking something that cant be answered

median talon
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Oh lmao

frigid vapor
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Lol

median talon
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Don’t keep up with intel as much

elfin warren
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We dont even have 11th gen yet

frigid vapor
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The leaks do be there tho

eager shore
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don't rely on leaks too much

manic hull
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they haven't released 11th gen yet, 12th gen is over a year away.

frigid vapor
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Rocket lake is just stock gap between 10th gen and 12th gen

elfin warren
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Leaks pfffff

frigid vapor
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Ehhh, yea, I think any intel leaks are going to be wayyy off

stark laurel
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Getting my 5900x on Wednesday! Was actually quite pleased to see it took less than a week for delivery considering the demand and all the circumstances.

pale mist
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So close to a 5600x

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My wrong paypal came up at the last second

silent oriole
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hello I have a a86 grenade motherbored and looking for good ram for it needs to be 32gb ddr3 2133

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any ideas on this ram

livid sparrow
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Do you mean the A68HM Grenade?

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That only has two dimm slots, meaning it can actually only have a max of 16 gigs of ram

silent oriole
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on MSN it says it can have 32

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msi

livid sparrow
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Yes, but a ddr3 stick of ram can only have a max of 8 gigs per stick, meaning that the true max amount is dependent upon how many sticks you can put in

silent oriole
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so would it be a single stick

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?

livid sparrow
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Two sticks of 8, since the A68HM Grenade has two ram slots

silent oriole
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that makes no since since it says it can handle 32

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I even showed u on msi Web page saying 32 g maxs

livid sparrow
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They usually use parts of the motherboard throughout a product line, meaning the components of the motherboard can theoretically support 32 gigs when in actuality the specific motherboard is limited to 16 due to configuration

silent oriole
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I'll call msi tomarrow

livid sparrow
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Are you going to try and get a different motherboard or something from them?

silent oriole
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at some point I plan to build a new pc myin is trash

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but all I have

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a10 as well sadly

livid sparrow
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I mean, if you are planning to build a new pc I'd probably just wait until you can do the build, that is unless you are planning it way down the line

silent oriole
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right now I just wanna talk to them

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can't afford that need to fix this one before it dies

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if it dies I'll be with out for months

livid sparrow
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Ah, so your ram is putzing, I see

silent oriole
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I am on a phone right now

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I plan to go ryzen

livid sparrow
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Yeah, Ryzen right now is pretty much king of the cpu market, though the new stuff is out of stock most of the time and the gpu market is still going crazy, so it is a good thing you are not doing the build now

silent oriole
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ya just trying to beef up the crap pc for now

vale oracle
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Y'know

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I've heard of 8 pin CPU power

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You know what I hadn't heard of until today?

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12 Pin CPU power

naive pendant
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you mean 8+4?

vale oracle
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mm

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yeah

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i assume they put it on for higher end CPU's

sharp plover
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is the R5 3600 still worth it?

naive pendant
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i think so

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dead chat btw

river ledge
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I5 10400 is better and cheaper

naive pendant
river ledge
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If it says 3600 it’s probably 3600. Btw go with ballistix if u want to tune the ram. Corsair dies are 💩 for tuning but there good if your just going to turn on xmp

naive pendant
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thx

sharp plover
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would an R7 3700x be a more worthwhile upgrade from the 2600?

river ledge
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If your doing editing

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Or gaming 1080p and bottlenecking the gpu then yes

sharp plover
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ight

pale mist
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frankly i love this

cobalt hearth
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nice

pale mist
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are xeon e7 CPUs any good? i found 12 core 3ghz for like 40$ on ebay

ruby laurel
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yea sorta

wise jackal
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hello

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im buying a 5600x and the motherboard ive chosen is the Gigabyte B550 AORUS Elite AX V2 , there are cheaper b450 motherboards and i was wondering if they are compatible and even if they are should i stick with the b550, thanks in advance

river ledge
wise jackal
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any reasons?

elfin warren
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B550 has better features

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Generally

wise jackal
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like what?

elfin warren
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More PCI-E lanes

river ledge
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b450 is an old chipset and there is no point going with an old chipset when its a couple of bucks cheaper

wise jackal
elfin warren
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Well

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with Ryzen 5000 series

wise jackal
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are they compatible tho

elfin warren
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You'll also need a board with BIOS flashback to support the CPU

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I doubt the cheap B450 will have that

wise jackal
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so aslong as it has a bios flashback it will work ?

elfin warren
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Should

river ledge
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a cheap b450 with ok vrms i bet

wise jackal
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thanks

river ledge
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btw dont go asrock they weird. u need a cpu to flash bios

wise jackal
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also will the 5600x oc well ? im ok with the base specs but will it oc?

wise jackal
river ledge
elfin warren
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It'll overclock itself to the boost clock

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Going past the boost clock, not so much

river ledge
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manual oc is always better tho

wise jackal
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thanks

river ledge
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mainy bc of those high volts

hollow thorn
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@wise jackal where are you

elfin warren
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Compared with PBO, manual OC is too much work for the extra 100 mhz you get

wise jackal
hollow thorn
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There could also just be cheaper b550 boards

river ledge
verbal forge
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Penguins are cool

fallen tangle
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so I was trying to flash an updated bios onto my new motherboard (ROG Strix e for reference) in prep for my first build (pulling a fair few parts from my prebuilt system so figured it would be easier to have the bios already updated before hand as I would use that system to create the bios thumbdrive ) kept getting a solid light ( bios not read or whatever) despite trying 3 different versions of the bios . could this be a potentially an issue with issue with the board or what

river ledge
fallen tangle
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yes

river ledge
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give it some time to see what happens

fallen tangle
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renamed it through asus's renamer not sure if doing it manually makes a difference

river ledge
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u unzip the folder or something

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Yea I’d test it outside before putting it in the case, asus allows exchanges if u corrupt the bios

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But yeah let it update and see what happens

elfin warren
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It's going to be slow

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really slow

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Oh

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I see the problem

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It doesn't have BIOS FLashback

fallen tangle
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basically unzipped the file into a folder ran the rename script it comes with and put the renamed version on a fat32 formated thumbdrive all there times it flashed for a bit then went solid for several minutes according to everything I've read and watched solid light means it didn't read the bios but not sure where to go from there as even the bios recommend in amazon comment section didn't work

elfin warren
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It doesn't have FLashback

river ledge
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Thought all rog boards had them

elfin warren
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CrashFree BIOS isnt' the same as Flashback

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Can't be used to update

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ONly used to restore same version

river ledge
elfin warren
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Wait which board?

river ledge
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That’s the x570 e

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Idk what boards he’s using

elfin warren
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x570 doesn't have that I literally am reading the manual now

fallen tangle
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X570 E

elfin warren
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That's Crash Free

river ledge
# river ledge

Yea I want to click that button. I have it on my board and I just wanna click it

elfin warren
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Crash Free is recovery only for the same BIOS

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According to the manual

fallen tangle
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guess I'm going to have to just wait till my Cpu comes in and see whats going on , will probably test it outside the case though , based on what I'm seeing the IO does have flashback written on it so assuming it does work

elfin warren
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I mean the manual and info straight up says Crash Free

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X570e yeah?

fallen tangle
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just checked the back of the box to confirm , maybe older versions didn't and year rog strix x570 e

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yea*

crisp ingot
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where can i find a 10100f thats ships to canada for under 122 us

jade bobcat
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b550-plus TUF mobo has a metal shielding behind the ports between the CPU and ports, any reason that I shouldn't route the wire of a fan I'm installing onto the case through there to reach the header on the mobo as shown in this pic?

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crisp ingot
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the vrm heatsink?

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should be safe

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might melt the cable tho

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@jade bobcat

jade bobcat
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Ha, the "might" is enough for me to say I'll go around another way then.

crisp ingot
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i would wait and record the temps of ur vrms before routing a cable through there

jade bobcat
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Thanks!

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I actually have another dumb question. Only my second build. Using the TD500 Mesh which has aRGB fans, does that just go right into the RGB header? Or do I need to use this little switch included with the case?

river ledge
nova hornet
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wireless fans pog

sonic scaffold
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do you guys think I should upgrade my Ryzen 5 2600 if I have a 3060 ti?

limber dragon
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depends on resolution

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1440p+ you're probably fine

stable agate
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Hi all, quick question if anyone has an idea answer wise, wanting to buy some g-skill ram from Newegg, but since I'm from New Zealand am wondering how safe it is, not the purchasing part but more if I had to return it, i.e what Guarantees there are, & if there would be a return cost involved, any help here would be awesome.

limber dragon
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might want to pm newegg service or check return policies

stable agate
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year thanks, that was my next step, cheers.

silent oriole
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looking for ddr3 2x16 any ideas

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it also 240 pin

median lance
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Is 32gb ram enough to game/stream? I’m debating on editing my choice to 64gb

manic hull
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You dont need much RAM to stream, 16GB works fine, 32 if you multitask a lot

elfin warren
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I have 32 GB of ram. Only time I use even close to it is when I run a game server and play on the same PC. 32 is more than enough to stream

silent oriole
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I run games dj software and 3d modeling software Internet discord so my pc ges boged down

ruby laurel
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big ram is good for editing high resolution video though

silent oriole
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I multi task to much

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@manic hull

ruby laurel
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u can get rdimms

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if u support ecc

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idek if consumer 16gb dimms are a thing for ddr3

main pulsar
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110 is the cheapest

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they on amazon too lol

mild jackal
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wat

main pulsar
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of course, im not sure what motherboards support 1x16gb ddr3

mild jackal
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$120 for a 16GB dimm Thinkies

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Those d9sdn ICs are just 8gbit, so it's regular dual rank , no buffer/register chip on that stick

ruby laurel
elfin warren
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I might have some of that laying around still lol

ruby laurel
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almost no uregistered memory for them

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i miss maxing out my r720xd with 32gb sticks

elfin warren
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Not ECC

ruby laurel
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genuinely upset i had to downgrade to 16gb sticks

naive pendant
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X9DAi seems to support 64GB RDIMM

median lance
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@ruby laurel what ram/capacity are you running?

ruby laurel
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i downsized though

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i didnt need all that ram

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now my server has 196gb of ram or so

void jolt
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DDR3 DIMMs could go up to 32gb per DIMM?

ruby laurel
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server ones yea

silent oriole
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could I use server for a a86 grenade

ruby laurel
mild jackal
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lol fits in the monitor

ruby laurel
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ikr

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genuinely banger thin clients

silent oriole
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@ruby laurel

ruby laurel
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like finally thin client id use as a daily pc

silent oriole
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could I use sever ram on a a86 grenade

ruby laurel
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LOL FX

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only use for that board is using it as a literal grenade

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and actually im not sure

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@mild jackal did fx supprort registered dimms?

mild jackal
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idk, never owned an fx

silent oriole
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yes my pc is older then dirt

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ty covid for making it to where I can't work

ruby laurel
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Supported memory: DDR3-1866 unbuffered with one DIMM per channel or DDR3-1600MHz unbuffered with two DIMMs per channel.

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replace the entire mobo/cpu

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for something good

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then get normal 32gb kit

livid sparrow
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Wait, I thought it was the A68HM Grenade? Which has an FM2+ socket?

silent oriole
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@ruby laurel takes money lol

ruby laurel
silent oriole
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i changed my mind ill just go wit 2x8

ruby laurel
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just grab cheap optiplex lol

silent oriole
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16 gb at1866

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@ruby laurel and 79 vs 1000

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I wanna switch some time to a ryzen 9 with a x570

ruby laurel
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i mean its like $400 to swap to an i5

blazing lichen
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So I am building a new PC. I got an amd 5900x. Is it true that to use the 5900x the motherboard needs a bios upgrade? I am coming from an Intel system and dont really have another AMD cpu laying around.

elfin warren
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Yes

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what motherboard?

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if it's a good motherboard you can update BIOS without needed a CPU

blazing lichen
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Its from MSI. MPG X570 Gaming Edge Wifi

elfin warren
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Looks like that board has a BIOS flashback button

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On the rear panel

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You'll need a USB stick and the BIOS file

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Instructions are in the manual 🙂

blazing lichen
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Thanks. So looks like I dont need to buy a 3000 cpu to update the bios?

elfin warren
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Nope

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Can update without a CPU installed

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Bottom left

blazing lichen
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I see it. Thank you very much.

elfin warren
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YW

blazing lichen
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I was also looking at Asus motherboards as well.

elfin warren
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Unfortunately most of their x570 boards don't have flashback

blazing lichen
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Alright. so stick with MSI then.

elfin warren
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The Crosshair does

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And the ROG Strix X570-F

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I'd recommend that over the MSI though

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It has better VRM's

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For your 5900X

blazing lichen
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The ASUS X570-E ROG Strix Gaming AMD AM4 ATX Motherboard is a good option?

elfin warren
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Has flashabck and good VRM

blazing lichen
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Alright cool. In all honesty I wont be building the system. I just bought the cpu and gpu when they were available because of shortages. The cpu will be here thursday. i actually intend on having microcenter build the system for me.

elfin warren
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Ah sweet!

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They do good work

blazing lichen
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I just dont have the time. But I want to make it easy for them.

elfin warren
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You're too nice lol

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It's what you're paying them for XD

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They're gonna love you

blazing lichen
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Yeah true. LOL. The store is some distance away from my house. I am sure their system builders would have helped with the bios issue though.

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I am coming from an Intel system.

elfin warren
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They would have yes

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if I'm not mistaken, they have CPU's and can update the BIOS for you on any board you want

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They're cool like that

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🙂

blazing lichen
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Oh so they would jsut have gotten a random 3000 cpu to do that?

elfin warren
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Yes, they have some just for that purpose

blazing lichen
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pfft i am worried for nothing then. still i want a good motherboard for my content creation.

elfin warren
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Yeah, I didn't know you were going to microcenter

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They'll update it

blazing lichen
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Well i was afraid to say that on the newegg discord 😆

elfin warren
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Nah

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Don't be

blazing lichen
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Cool. Thank you @elfin warren

elfin warren
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YW

hexed bison
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hey can u guys help i'm think of building a pc later on this year hopefully, and i need advice on a case

eager shore
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what are you looking for in the case?

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like any specific designs, color, form factor, features, etc

hexed bison
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nice airflow and good cable managment

eager shore
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at what price?

hexed bison
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can i show some i had in mind

eager shore
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go ahead

hexed bison
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these are two i found intresting

eager shore
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the p400a is nice

hexed bison
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ok

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and also i thinks that's the lian li lancool mesh

eager shore
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it is

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both are great options

hexed bison
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k dude cheers

eager shore
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the td500 mesh might also be a good option

hexed bison
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ok i'll look at that

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thanks for the help

eager shore
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yw

hexed bison
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another question, if i got a 5600x with a new motherboard, how do i bios update it?

elfin warren
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Board must have bios flashback

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Most b550 do but not all

hexed bison
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is that the button on the side of the board

elfin warren
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yes

hexed bison
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k cool

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so then when do i use when i'm building a pc

elfin warren
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Before you install CPU

hexed bison
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ok

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is there any other methods

elfin warren
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No. Put BIOS file on Flash Drive and push button

hexed bison
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ok i got it

elfin warren
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EZ PZ

median kelp
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Are there any decent motherboards that have WiFi built in?

hollow thorn
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what cpu

median kelp
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I know they sell separate cards

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I5 10400

hollow thorn
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this is the cheapest lga1200 mobo with wifi, smol, only 2 ram slots, wouldn't really reccomend, so I'd prob just grab a decent b460 board plus a wifi card
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0895L9KYC

median kelp
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Would just buying a separate WiFi card be better if I was eventually going to just plug it through Ethernet

hollow thorn
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I mean, both fine

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I'd go for extra card on a decent b460 board

median kelp
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The card I was going to get was a z490 a pro

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Would that be better? Sorry I’m not very good at all the stats and whatnot

hollow thorn
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sure

median talon
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If i get a 5600x and use a Asus ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING mobo would i have to update the bios?

elfin warren
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Yes

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Unless you get it from a Microcenter or other shop that will update it for you

median talon
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wish there was a microcenter near me

fallen tangle
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@median talon I've heard asus was putting out some refreshes of the strix with zen 3 compatible bios on them but not sure if there out or if they're wides spread or anything like that

elfin warren
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I wouldn't count on them coming with the BIOS just yet

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There are probably a few out there but not widespread enough to say Ya, you'll be fine just yet

median talon
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so how does updating the bios work with the button?

prisma nymph
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Mods need commands that they can do to quickly explain frequently asked questions lol

elfin warren
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nah, that's what Manuals are for

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😉

cinder sphinx
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My current mobo is quite old one and only support 2133mhz ram. I bought 2 sets of 3600mhz ram, which i intended it for new build but no new cpu and gpu cos seller fk up. So want to ask if can i use 3600mhz in this mobo which only support 2133mhz? My 3600mhz ram are 4x 16gb.

past thicket
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Hey, can I add ddr4 ram 8gb stick to my system that already has a 8gb stick? I wanna add ram on the cheap.

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They’ll be both 2666mhz

livid sparrow
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It depends

past thicket
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On what?

livid sparrow
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How similar the two sticks are

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i.e, CAS latency, voltage, timings, speed and if the actual brands are compatible with one another

past thicket
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Ok ty

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Am I better off getting a 16gb kit for my laptop, or try the other 8gb stick that I’ll get from Amazon?

livid sparrow
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I'd honestly just stick to the kit, it is a hassle mix matching ram brands and should only be done as your final option

past thicket
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I’m guessing not having exact same timings can present an issue.

livid sparrow
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Yes

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Major issues

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Mostly just with performance, as your computer will (usually) default to the looser timings

elfin warren
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While this is true, on a laptop, at 2666, it really doesn't matter much

#

The difference between C16 and C20 is not going to be noticeable

#

But not having the timings match is a pain, yeah

#

When I referred to the timings, i meant with regard to buying a whole new kit

solid shuttle
#

what would the longevity of a pc running 24/7 be as to regards of a server?

lean warren
#

Hey folks

#

so I'm currently assembling my rig

#

the arctic liquidfreezer 360 pump doesn't seem to be compatible with the dark hero

#

any solutions?

main pulsar
#

dark hero is am4?

lean warren
#

yea

main pulsar
#

is the issue with the mounting hardware itself, or are parts of the board physically in the way of the cpu block?

lean warren
#

kinda both

#

the mounting hardware doesn't line up

#

and there are capacitors in the way of one of the mounting brackets

main pulsar
#

have you removed the 2 plastic mounts at the top and bottom of the socket?

#

or does the amd bracket for this cooler use them?

lean warren
#

yes, I removed the plastic mounts

main pulsar
#

did the cooler come with different mounting brackets? usually the intel ones are installed by default

#

and the amd one is somewhere in the box

lean warren
#

yea, it comes with it's own mounting brackets

main pulsar
#

i think your brackets may be either flipped or upside down

lean warren
#

I just checked the box, no other plates

main pulsar
#

neither the capacitors or any other part of the board should be hindering the cooler

weak notch
#

As in the LF II rev 2 mounting hardware?

#

I've seen people having problems where the new metal pieces they added interfere with the VRM output filtering caps..

#

huge oversight by them

#

The older mounting hardware which is a bit tricker to install where the cooler screws right into the back plate should have no problem on any am4 boards

main pulsar
#

how long ago did they change the mounting hardware?

#

was it recent?

weak notch
main pulsar
#

unfortunate

weak notch
#

unbelievable that they didn't test this...

#

This was ofc wasnt the vcore

#

saw it wasn't compatible with x570 tuf though since it touches an output cap.

lean warren
weak notch
#

it's their rev 3 that has this problem

lean warren
#

That’s one of the brackets

weak notch
# lean warren

Actually that looks like it might be the older hardware.

#

well, maybe not

#

That screws onto the cooler

#

Can you read the online manual?

#

It shows you how to put it all together

#

and your cooler comes with a QR code so you get the right one

#

hopefully you got the rev 2 and not the rev 3

#

if you have the rev 2 you're good

#

rev 3 might be a gamble

lean warren
#

This is all the mounting hardware it came in

weak notch
#

That's the rev 3

#

But it might still work

lean warren
#

With*

weak notch
#

Follow the online manual that came with the cooler

#

You re-use the AM4 backplate

lean warren
#

I checked the manual. But it asked if I had rev 2 vs 3

#

And I had no way of telling

weak notch
lean warren
#

hmm ok thanks

weak notch
#

So ask for the rev 3 manual

#

hopefully it fits 😅 so many people have been having trouble with the v3 hardware

main pulsar
#

man they really didnt think that one through

#

what they do? test 3 random boards and call it a day? did they test any boards for that matter? lmao

mental vapor
lean warren
#

Hmm so ok

#

That photo you sent me is what’s happening

#

I can slide it back one

#

But then it’s hitting up against the VRM, is that an issue?

#

It’s touching those white things at the bottom of the VRM

#

Are those the mosfets?

#

they probably shouldn’t be touching the metal bracket then should it?

main pulsar
#

is it loose?

#

that doesnt look very secure

#

the conductive part of those chokes is at the bottom, not the top, so if its touching the top of them you should still be fine

silent oriole
#

what do you think is the best cpu for the a86 grenade motherbored

lean warren
#

Yea so after a while I got the pump dry fitted on

#

But it was really bothering me how it was pressing the capacitor

#

I’m just going to return this thing and get another AIO

#

any suggestions for dark hero?

#

I’m looking at that EK 360

naive pendant
#

that is LGA1151

#

while 10th and 11th gen are LGA1200

mental vapor
#

So I wont be able to witha new motherboard?

naive pendant
#

if you buy a new motherboard yes you can

#

i would recommend just buying the 10700F version

#

saves you the money from buying a new mobo plus that 10700 should sell for atleast 200$

#

covers the difference

#

@mental vapor

mental vapor
#

Okay thanks a lot

naive pendant
swift raven
#

i need help finding the best CPU and 16gb ram kit for a ASRock 760GM-HDV motherboard. Can anyone assist?

naive pendant
#

budget?

#

@swift raven

swift raven
#

$300 pref. less

naive pendant
#

what card do you have? DON'T WANT TO BOTTLE NECK

swift raven
#

i'm building a media server of sorts

naive pendant
#

oops caps lock

swift raven
#

i'll be using it for low end games like X-Com and such and for my digital video library. Steam Link too.

#

I may transfer my XFX Radeon R9 280X Video Card to it when I build my next gaming PC

#

Finding a decent affordable processor has been a serious chore.

naive pendant
#

good shadow?

swift raven
#

this motherboard doesn't support Ryzen CPUs ... its a Socket AM3+ / AM3 cpu

#

🤔

#

It supports a Socket AM3+ / AM3 Processor, upto 8-Core CPU

naive pendant
#

yikes, well i don't know much about Intel, too many numbers

swift raven
#

that's not Intel my friend. lol

naive pendant
#

well you know what i mean, i don't know much about non ryzen

swift raven
#

That socket is AMD, Phenom, FX and Athlon CPU's

#

lol, that's cool. thanks for trying. much appreciated

naive pendant
#

i would definitely go for that ram though, 16 gigs at 3600 is good

swift raven
#

Your direction to PC Part Pickers did the trick, It makes it easy to find compatible parts. thanks again

naive pendant
#

👍

naive pendant
#

are the asus tuf boards any good? (been out of the loop)

elfin warren
#

motherboards? yes, GPU's, also yes

glossy dust
#

on the expensive side, but it looks hella cool

#

esp tuf

naive pendant
#

was considering the tuf gaming plus x570

#

cause i see it for a decent price tag of 200

#

dunno if I wanna skimp out on something cheap

#

for the first time ever I was wanting an Asrock board cause the Taichi line sounded like it was a winner in most categories

elfin warren
#

TUF gaming plus is Ok depending on which processor you are using

naive pendant
#

it's looking like 5900x

elfin warren
#

Then no for two reasons

#
  1. It doesn't have BIOS flashback to support the CPU
#
  1. VRM's not the best quality for that processor
#

Motherboards need a BIOS update to run the 5000 series still. need a board that has BIOS flashback so it can be updated without a CPU installed

glossy dust
#

oooooo

naive pendant
#

well I guess that wont matter too much since I am coming froma 1700x so Ill have that on hand

glossy dust
#

very valuable infos

naive pendant
#

and I can update bios

glossy dust
#

gigabyte h410m h couldn't rly go wrong right?

elfin warren
#

Mmmm

glossy dust
#

mmmmm

elfin warren
#

570 doesn't support 1000 series lol

naive pendant
#

oh

devout mothBOT
#
mult1kill#5785 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

glossy dust
#

lol

elfin warren
#

2000/3000/5000 only

glossy dust
#

the new boards can't support zen and zen+ processors

elfin warren
#

B550 is even worse

#

x570 is also bad about flashback

#

A LOT don't have it

naive pendant
#

so no motherboard supports zen 2(3?) out of the box?

elfin warren
#

Yes, they support Zen 2 out of the botx

#

Zen 2 is 3000 series

#

Zen 3 is 5000 series which isn't supported out of the box yet

glossy dust
#

oof

elfin warren
#

If you want to geek out a bit, here's a spreadsheet of motherboards

#

Choose one that has Flashback and a VRM of Tier 2 or better for the 5900x

glossy dust
#

was that how to understand mobos doc?

#

oh am4 mobos only

elfin warren
#

Ye

#

like, Asroick Taichi would work

#

ROG Strix Asus

#

x570 Aorus Master

#

Aorus Pro

#

MPG Gaming Pro WiFi

#

That's really it for x570 boards

#

unless you want to spend $500

glossy dust
#

there's nothing that could go very wrong on gigabyte h410m h right?

elfin warren
#

mmmm

#

Extremely low end board

#

No upgrade path

glossy dust
#

so b460m ds3h then?

elfin warren
#

what cpu?

glossy dust
#

10100f

elfin warren
#

I don't recommend that one either

#

It has no diagnostic LED's

#

No way to tell what's wrong if something happens

glossy dust
#

oof

elfin warren
#

I mean, depends if you plan to upgrade or not

#

B460 limits ram speed for better processors

glossy dust
#

i wouldn't bother to upgrade ig

#

maybe just storage and cpu upgrade. rest, until i need to replace everything

elfin warren
#

Then H410

glossy dust
#

at least intol ain't picky on ram

elfin warren
#

Depends

#

10400 with DDR2666 is behind the AMD 3600

#

10400 with DDR3200 beats it in games by a bit of a margin

glossy dust
#

ooooooo

#

pog

elfin warren
#

But, 3200 is kind of the sweet spot for Intel

#

Going faster ram doesn't benefit much

glossy dust
#

i see

naive pendant
#

yeah I don't know what to go for

elfin warren
#

I listed the moderately priced ones above

#

like, Asroick Taichi would work
ROG Strix Asus
x570 Aorus Master
Aorus Pro
MPG Gaming Pro WiFi

naive pendant
#

Gamers nexus was saying the Taichi was a pretty good overclocking board (I'll do it down the line)

#

I guess Taichi it is!

#

thanks

elfin warren
#

YW

#

For AMD, any board except A320 can overclock

naive pendant
#

maybe ill get the razer edition even though I dont like razer XD

thick plank
#

I need to add a few more fans to my case, does anyone know what fan controllers work with the 'Node' connection on the Asus Dark Hero mobo?

grim jay
#

is it worth to buy a ryzen 5 1600 f in 2021 ?

elfin warren
#

Not really

#

Intel is better and cheaper.

grim jay
#

wich one ?

elfin warren
#

10400 will smoke it and the amd 3600

elfin warren
#

Nope

#

AMD crew

#

But 3600 and below intel is better

naive pendant
#

Intel has some steals right now

#

Since everyone thinks AMD is the godsend 24/7

#

which is not true lol

elfin warren
#

10400 more fps in games forbless money

naive pendant
#

honestly i was suprised that zen2 did not really get cheaper after zen3's launch

vivid pewter
naive pendant
#

Im just glad I snagged Zen2 right as zen3 launched

elfin warren
#

Im actually an amd fanboy but realize Intel is better in some places.

naive pendant
#

Thats is true intel does do stuff better lol sometimes.

#

bad singlecore performance

#

Heat generators

#

Lol

#

Was pretty much a huge issue.

#

I don't really care about my identity lol

#

im not doing anything illegal

elfin warren
#

Duck duck go just makes you feel good. If youre on the internet its too late to hide.

naive pendant
#

^ this

stark laurel
#

Officially have one part to go for my PC, 3080. This is gonna suck 🙂

naive pendant
#

good luck finding that for ages lol

#

its going to be like 1k even at retail

high steeple
main pulsar
#

so you currently have a functioning system?

hollow thorn
#

Don't you love posting in multiple channels

main pulsar
#

oh, thanks lol

calm drum
#

Wasnt really sure where to post my question lol

hollow thorn
#

Build chat good nuff for 99% of things

naive pendant
#

how do you know if motherboard vrms are bad?

pale mist
#

if they are getting too hot

#

if not you can kinda just assume if its a bad board

elfin warren
#

Yo ucan check it on the list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504

Google Docs
X570/X470/X370/B550/B450/B350/A520/A320 Motherboards (AM4-socket fo...

AM4 MB Comparison @2017-2020 raisonjohn b.

AM4-socket MOTHERBOARD COMPARISON,SUBJECTIVE TIERS:,HOW TO SORT/FILTER MOTHERBOARDS YOU ONLY NEED TO COMPARE:
| Step 1: Select entire Row 11 by clicking "11" at left side of your screen.
| Step 2: Click the Filter Icon at the above toolbar, just beside ...

naive pendant
#

Uhh what.

pale mist
#

jesus christ

naive pendant
#

How come my TUF X570 isn't getting hot

elfin warren
#

wat

#

That's a fantastic list

naive pendant
#

I thought vrms were bad on it

#

Im getting no issue for vrms

elfin warren
#

What board?

naive pendant
#

x570 tuf plus wifi

elfin warren
#

And processor?

naive pendant
#

3700x

elfin warren
#

Oh sheesh

#

that board has great VRM's lol

naive pendant
#

Wait

#

What.

elfin warren
#

Ye

naive pendant
#

Lol I heard something about bad VRMS earlier int he chat

elfin warren
#

derbauer even said so

naive pendant
#

The chat*

elfin warren
#

that was for the PRO

pale mist
#

bang on board

nova hornet
#

yeah whoever told you tuf is bad was silly

elfin warren
#

it has bad vrms

naive pendant
#

When we were talking about X570 Pro

#

Pro tuf

elfin warren
#

PRO has oof VRM's

#

but flashback

nova hornet
#

that's weird as heck

naive pendant
#

Wait then how come my vrms are fine

nova hornet
#

why would the vrms even be different on the pro

elfin warren
#

You have the TUF gaming

naive pendant
#

Oh

#

TUF GAMING Plus wifi yeah

elfin warren
#

Yeah?

#

Yeah

naive pendant
#

vrms are that different?

elfin warren
#

yes

naive pendant
#

Damn

#

How dafuq

#

different design for VRMS?

nova hornet
#

that's dumb, but oh well

elfin warren
#

TUF GAMING Pro has Tier III vrm

naive pendant
#

is TUF plus like tier IV?

elfin warren
#

"Here comes the ASUS TUF Gaming X570-X into play, which – honestly – at this point is my favorite board in this test. It performed quite well in all test scenarios and for it’s price of about €210 it can keep up with much more expensive boards."

naive pendant
#

POF

#

POG

#

I didn't need flashback anyways

#

Lol

#

I had a zen2 processor

elfin warren
#

Well

#

that board didn't need an update for 3000 series anyway lol

#

Just 5000

livid sparrow
#

I have a Tuf Gaming plus, is a good motherboard, especially for the price (I got it for 150)

elfin warren
#

That's the board we're talking about

#

See the quote above

livid sparrow
#

I know, I'm just saying, good motherboard

elfin warren
#

It is

#

Fantastic unit

#

Except for the no flashback part

#

That would have made it perfect

livid sparrow
#

Yeah, that is pretty much the only drawback

grim jay
#

@elfin warren yoo

#

is it worth the upgrade

#

from i5 4570

#

to r5 1600 af

languid dune
#

how hard is it to replace laptop ram

livid sparrow
#

No that hard, it just involves a lot of unscrewing stuff

languid dune
#

ah my old enemy

#

screw management

elfin warren
grim jay
#

@elfin warren buy 8c/16t ? or what

hollow thorn
#

Out of date architecture

#

Single core speeds just like 10% faster

grim jay
#

i want to build a setup

#

not for gaming

#

just good cpu

#

to last for 4-5 years

hollow thorn
#

What'd it be for

grim jay
#

just multitasking

hollow thorn
#

Like..?

grim jay
#

watching films...

hollow thorn
#

Just chill on 4570 then..?

grim jay
#

until ?

#

2025 ?

manic hull
#

it stops working?

grim jay
#

working fine

nova hornet
#

is it doing specific things slowly?

grim jay
#

but the motherboard

#

hhhh

manic hull
grim jay
#

okey

hollow thorn
#

If it works, it works

grim jay
#

i think the motherboard

#

will die soon

#

@hollow thorn or just wait and build a system with ddr5 and 5nm ?

hollow thorn
#

Nah

#

1600af stock is like all gone anyways, but just build one when you need one

grim jay
#

thanks

#

@hollow thorn do you know how to turn the fan on the hyper212 off ?

hollow thorn
#

Mobo software/bios

grim jay
#

i cant do 0 %

elfin warren
#

Why do you want the fan off?

grim jay
#

noise

elfin warren
#

What about heat?

grim jay
#

34 C

#

the fan is 30 %

nova hornet
#

you're not gonna passively cool with a 212

grim jay
#

ok

#

are there any air cooler that have 0 rpm fan mode ?

manic hull
#

how close is the 5950x to the 3960x in terms of multi-core performance?

elfin warren
#

15-25% slower in multi core

#

Depends on the benchmark

manic hull
#

can you send me a link to the numbers?

stark laurel
#

with the new 5000 series processors, will I need to flash to the BIOS before I can post the computer or will it post and then I update BIOS?\

elfin warren
#

Yes

#

Update first

#

No POST without new BIOS

elfin warren
manic hull
#

Are they trust-able, enough?

elfin warren
#

yes

#

Far more so than Userbench

#

Never use UserBench

manic hull
#

alright, good to know. I've never used CPU monkey so i was skeptical when viewing their stuff.

timid sand
#

can you mix and match ram

#

and

#

if I do does it have to be in the same speed cus I'm planning on doing tnay

#

that

#

pls help

eager shore
#

yeah you can mix and match ram

#

as long as they're the same form factor

#

timings/speed/voltages will be taken care of by the motherboard

elfin warren
#

Those will be the slowest of the sticks

#

It will default to the slowest speed/lowest timings

timid sand
#

i bought an old pc from a friend for 450 with a 1650 and a i59400f

#

I just need one more stick of ram

#

and the max speed is like 2666

#

so it doesn't really matter and that's what's the ram goes up to anyways

eager shore
#

fair enough

#

make sure that once you put the stick in, that they're all running at what you want them to run at

timid sand
#

alright

#

so I just wanna make sure this mobo

#

ASRock H310CM-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

#

G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 CL19 Memory

#

and this ram is compatible right?

#

cus that's basically the mobo

#

it saids that it is but I just wanna make sure

eager shore
#

it is

#

how much are you gonna pay for the ram?

timid sand
#

I'm gonna buy it for basically 35

#

probably 40 after tax

cinder sphinx
#

Anyone know how to get ram rgb to be set so on booting, it rgb will light as intended and not random sequence?

languid sierra
#

When will the product be available? ryzen 9 5900x?????????

limber dragon
#

in the future

median talon
glossy dust
#

if yes, know what argb softwares it it compatible to

#

then you control it there

naive pendant
#

can someone help me

jagged remnant
#

Newegg does not have shipping to my country 😭

#

Btw what is the difference between ddr3L and ddr3

#

and which one i should buy?

livid sparrow
#

DDR3L is a type of DDR3 that can support lower voltage instead of just 1.5 volts. Basically it is the same as ddr3 but lasts longer and creates less heat

jagged remnant
#

is 8GB of ddr3 enough for gaming?

#

i play games like valorant, fifa, csgo etc.

naive pendant
#

for games like val and csgo yes

#

fifa idk

#

Just buy 4x4

jagged remnant
#

4x4 1600mhz

#

shud be good?

#

can i buy like 4X2 1333mhz and the other 4x2 1600mhz?

hollow thorn
#

@naive pendant uh they're talking ddr3 stuff..?

naive pendant
#

yikes

jagged remnant
#

coz i could only afford those huhuhuhu

grim jay
#

@jagged remnant u need 16

#

minimum

jagged remnant
#

alright thanks

jagged remnant
grim jay
#

yes

elfin warren
jagged remnant
#

err sorry its 2x4

elfin warren
#

it will all run at the slowest speed/timings but it should work

jagged remnant
#

aight thanks

neon void
#

which one should I get

#

price don't matter

hollow thorn
#

for doing what

#

prob 3600

neon void
#

literally just gaming

#

multi tasking aswell

hollow thorn
#

3600

neon void
#

alright

river ledge
hollow thorn
#

Uh what

river ledge
hollow thorn
#

Rumors smh

warm path
#

HOW I highly doubt they can do 3nm in 2022 not to mention 4nm

#

They are still stuck at 14nm

hollow thorn
#

@warm path it's rumors, pretty sure those guys are like moore's law is dead

warm path
#

Yea

elfin warren
#

TSMC is firing up 3nm fabs, that's how lol

warm path
#

Oh

elfin warren
#

Reportedly for Intel in 2022

#

but it won't be CPU's

warm path
#

Yet Intel has to go up its IPC and clock speed game

#

Oh

elfin warren
#

https://wccftech.com/report-intel-signs-contract-to-outsource-cpus-to-tsmcs-3nm-process/

Wccftech
Usman Pirzada
Report: Intel Signs Contract To Outsource CPUs To TSMC's 3nm Process

A massive claim has just been made by Taiwan's leading newspaper, DigiTimes: Intel has apparently signed a contract with TSMC to fabricate core CPU product lines in 2020 on their 3nm process. This, if true, would change the dynamics of the x86 industry completely next year. Keep in mind, we are definitively tagging this report […]

#

Maybe cpu's then

warm path
#

WOW

#

They using TSMC to make 3nm CPUs later then hmmm

elfin warren
#

I'm thinking more mobile chip products though and IC's, not CPU's

warm path
#

Ok

#

So no desktop chips more laptop chips?

elfin warren
#

Not laptops

#

Mobile as in phones and other devices

#

WiFi chips

warm path
#

Ohhhh

#

I though Apple bought Intel WiFi chip business

#

Hmmm

elfin warren
#

The smartphone portion

#

Not the PC portion

#

or IOT

#

etc

#

Smartphones only

warm path
#

Mhm

#

Appel prob bought it to begin designing WiFi/5G chips for the iPhone and iPad lines

#

You think so also?

elfin warren
#

Of course

jagged remnant
#

Hi, im doing a cheap build

#

i've tested the build with a mobo buzzer

#

it gave 4 short beeps

#

and then nothings happens

#

What should i do next?

elfin warren
#

RAM

#

It's either bad or in the wrong slots

jagged remnant
#

alright

elfin warren
#

Also can try resetting CMOS

jagged remnant
#

ok sure

#

thanks

modest totem
#

Does anybody know of any good ram rgb covers?

hollow thorn
#

They don't really exist, there are dummy sticks, but nothing just covers

modest totem
#

What’s dummy sticks?

hollow thorn
#

They're basically ram sticks
without any ram on them

modest totem
hollow thorn
#

Those just seem really iffy with clearance and sizing due to different height of different models of sticks

sturdy steppe
#

I am looking for memory for an Asus Z490-A motherboard. 2X16GB

eager shore
#

at what speeds

sturdy steppe
#

3200

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I dug this up. Wondering if it compatible. Corsair CMK32GX4M2B3200C16

eager shore
sturdy steppe
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Let me check it out. Thank you very much. Forgot to mention that I was located in Canada. No worries though. Appreciate you taking the time

eager shore
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no worries and you're wlecome

errant knoll
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Hi guys! I have a question and I need someone advice, is it worth to buy 3600mhz of ram? I have 2x8 3200mhz of ram. I planning to sell my 3200mhz if its worth it to upgrade into 3600mhz tia!

elfin warren
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What processor and motherboard?

errant knoll
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I have ryzen 5 3600 and aorus b550m elite :D

elfin warren
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Mmm, it's good for a little more performance if you get 3600C16

errant knoll
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I don't *see any c16

elfin warren
errant knoll
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Thanks friend!n

elfin warren
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YW

celest ginkgo
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I’m not in the market, so idek if I’m helping. But I hope I am.

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$450 from and shipped by amazon seems all legit.

errant knoll
modest totem
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So I have 16 gb of ram and I have a 16 gb usb flash drive... if I plug in the flash drive will I get 32 gb of memory??? wuuut wuuut wuuut

hollow thorn
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no

modest totem
hollow thorn
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I mean, think about it, different protocols, slow as hell flash drives compared to memory, only thing in common is like the type of storage

modest totem
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But it’s usb 3 so it’s 10x faster I dink

elfin warren
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and still 100x slower than ram

hollow thorn
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@modest totem this is about like, 300mb/s flash drive against 50,000mb/s memory

prisma nymph
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i've always wondered how fast ram actually is and i've never gotten a straight answer

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interesting

hollow thorn
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@prisma nymph I mean, you can just run aida64's memory bench, this was my scores from like a year ago

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solid shuttle
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i bet if you download gta on them bad boys load times may only take hours instead of days

prisma nymph
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woah

hollow thorn
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hell, lemme test these crappy lpddr3 sticks in this laptop

prisma nymph
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if i remember corrently, information can't actually retain information for long periods of time or smth like that?

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what did i just type

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*ram cant actually

hollow thorn
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oops big boi screenshot

prisma nymph
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interesting, on that one the write is faster than the read

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compared to the year old one u posted

hollow thorn
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@prisma nymph with ram, iirc everything on the ram just goes poof

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once it has no power

prisma nymph
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yea, thats what i thought

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remembered learning something about ram being "volatile" like 5 years ago

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but if you didnt shut it down... could you run a game off ram if you had a way to download onto it?

hollow thorn
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yea

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didn't people game off of 3090 vram a bit back?

prisma nymph
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wot

hollow thorn
prisma nymph
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yea

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lol

solid shuttle
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what is the diffrence between ryzen 3000 series x and XT lineup?

magic cedar
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not much

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little bit of clock boost

hollow thorn
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xt = yes we'll charge you 30% more for like 5% frequency boost

magic cedar
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^^

river ledge
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But intel 10th gen will beat ryzen 3000 serie xt unless it’s the ryzen 9

limber dragon
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3000xt is on zen3 silicon, so zen3 clocks with zen2 ipc

naive pendant
torn belfry
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🤡

cursive epoch
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3000 xt is actually zen 2

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zen 3 is in 5th gen lmao

hollow thorn
limber dragon
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Yes, 5000 is on an altered 7nn from 3000

hollow thorn
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Ah

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I was gonna say how do you take a Zen 3 chip and then alter the architecture

celest ginkgo
pure fox
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Anybody have any good mobo recommendations for a Ryzen 5000 series? Looking for pcie 4.0 of course, usb c comparability would be nice but definitely not a dealbreaker

slate night
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@pure fox

eager shore