#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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night hatch
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The cost for that i could do like 2x32gb instead at 3600MHz

frosty depot
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Yeah, I just want to custom loop a 13900 and 40 series, so I figured I may as well get to ddr5 so I didn't waste money on the loop and have to redo it.

night hatch
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13th gen will still use DDR4

frosty depot
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I know, but if I'm already going for highest specs for cpu/gpu.. why not for ram as well.

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I understand price/perf ratio, but its what would make me feel happy.

hollow thorn
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(there's also the performing worse part)

frosty depot
hollow thorn
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It's better now, but now it's more like high end ddr5 starting to match high end ddr4

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Not being straight up better

frosty depot
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Oh I see.

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Is the ballistix considered high end?

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For ddr4*

hollow thorn
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Rev e is nice

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High end was prob the wrong way to put it

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But rev e is one of the top performing dies

frosty depot
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I see. I still have yet to see if I can get above 4000c16. I still have yet to tighten my timings for 4000c16 lol

hollow thorn
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Dew it

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get bleach to oc it with you

frosty depot
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I asked in overclock for some help so hopefully someone is willing to help me

frosty depot
hollow thorn
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Orange mushroom's old username

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Anyways ddr4 guide

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Get started first

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Don't actually expect people to do it for you, that was a joke, but do get advice and assistance on fine tuning things

frosty depot
cerulean wadi
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Rev E can actually do 4400 sometimes, it's just partly that not many people have mobo/cpu(imc) or the patience to hit that. kekleo

frosty depot
cerulean wadi
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This sort of stuff would be fun to play with. 5100 cL19 just from xmp. Ddr5 who? Kekw

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autumn frigate
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What’s a 12900k es?

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Saw them on eBay

cerulean wadi
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Engineering sample, not guaranteed to work in all mobos or well (at all)

night hatch
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They can work on all just not properly

vast meadow
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Next upgrade past 13th gen

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No it's pretty mediocre

frosty depot
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I love how to respond before reading it all <3

vast meadow
frosty depot
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Already in the market for one

vast meadow
vast meadow
vast meadow
frosty depot
vast meadow
night hatch
vast meadow
night hatch
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But still no point on going DDR5 really

vast meadow
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I'm agreeing with you

frosty depot
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Yeah ill just not go with ddr5 yet then. I'll just hold off with a custom loop and 13900 until the next gen like pato said

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I am still grabbing 40 series though

night hatch
frosty depot
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Was on 16. Just got 20 because good sale on bstock

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I've been waiting for 40 series, but the 20 series was a good price and I was being impatient.

night hatch
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For a lot of games i have been seeing that is coming out this year or next tends to have the recommended as a 2060 which the 2060 is slowly going to become the new 1060 for recommended settings

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For myself though i am going to wait for 14th/15th gen i core series and also for the RTX 5050

hollow thorn
eternal helm
vast meadow
hollow thorn
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yes :(

spare sandal
cursive epoch
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you don't have to match ram to the exact model for laptops

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just make sure speed matches and it's good

spare sandal
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Thanks Vampire. Great to know!

brave oyster
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Hey all, just upgraded to a 3080 Ti from a 2080 Super. I run 3 monitors, 2x 32inch and 1x 27inch, all Gigabyte and all have a refresh rate of 165hz. After installing it, everything is running fine, but the memory clock is stuck at 1188, even at idle. I used NVIDIA Inspector application for the multi display power saver, but that doesn't seem to be an option anymore. Is there a way to get the memory clock to a normal speed at idle?

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whoops wrong room

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My bad

vast meadow
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instead of prefer maximum perf

brave oyster
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Thanks! I actually found the issue with NVIDIA Inspector, and was able to turn on Multi Display Power Saver. This gets the memory clock down to 50 at idle, and 420 core clock at idle. Had some major flickering once MDPS was turned on, but figured out one of my monitors was sitting at 120hz refresh rate. Turned that up to 144hz and I am good now.

tribal wraith
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Hello, I am having a problem and I am not sure what to do. When I enable XMP my mobo gives me error code 55 which means there is no signal from RAM. It only happens when I enable XMP.

crimson egret
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Is isopropyl alcohol the best way to go for cleaning thermal paste off a CPU for cooler swap

obtuse forge
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Guys is it possible to run 4 stick of ram at 3600mhz?

crimson egret
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If your platform supports it yes

eternal helm
burnt spear
tribal wraith
burnt spear
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There's your issue

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Corsair makes terrible ram, that's likely the issue

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Infamous for making ram thst won't run xmp

tribal wraith
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Hm you are the second person to say something about the “Corsair curse”

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The other person is trying to help me right now

tribal wraith
burnt spear
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Depends on how much you can spend

obtuse forge
burnt spear
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What cpu you have, mobo, and what ram would be the factors

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Also partially luck

eternal helm
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Mhmm, all of the above ^^^

obtuse forge
tribal wraith
obtuse forge
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ram is a team group rgb ram i dont know the modle

tribal wraith
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Do you have any brands in particular that I could maybe look at?

burnt spear
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That could be $50 or that could be $200

tribal wraith
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I could perhaps go over $200

burnt spear
grizzled bloom
crimson egret
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K

grizzled bloom
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90 would work if nothing else is available

crimson egret
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Ty

mild jackal
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I just use a paper towel, only iso when I want to take a picture of the cpu

grizzled bloom
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I'm running on the assumption that this is old/stock paste and should be cleaned thoroughly

eternal helm
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I use a shop towel since normal paper towel can kinda leave little bits of itself

mild jackal
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Yeah, I pretty much only buy shop towels these days.

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It was only a 4c4t ivy, but with that thickness, I'd imagine something high core count would really cook.

cerulean wadi
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Looks like play doh. Paste on my 3550 (ivy) was probably 5+ yrs old & wasn't dried out yet. kekleo

scenic solar
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I'm never sure where to ask for RGB devices/programs
Basically I installed openRGB because I wanted to power all my RGBs with only one software (since now I have a led strip non Corsair compatible) the only problem with openRGB is the Corsair vengeance rgb pro ram, at startup only 2dimm lights up (and its pink for some reason). But as soon as the program kicks in at startup they both change back to RGB rainbow.... Is there a solution for this?
When I used iCue the system started with both dimms turned of and it was ok... I'd like to have the same effect ...

vernal cosmos
scenic solar
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I want them to either be off at startup or show RGB, I don't want dimm1 to be off and dimm2 to be pink

vernal cosmos
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Ok but like

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How many times u restarting in a day and how long does it take every time

scenic solar
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You meant the pc?

vernal cosmos
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Yes

scenic solar
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I usually turn on my pc 2-3 times a day and it takes ~40sec

vernal cosmos
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Well maybe you should switch to a better ssd and keep pc on instead since openrgb only loads in after windows

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Ur harming the pc more with repeated reboots than by just keeping it on the entire day

scenic solar
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I guess my pc is slow because of all the programs it has (1.5tb) and btw it's a SATA SSD, never got a m.2 one

scenic solar
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Didn't know

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Why?

vernal cosmos
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Startup is a very intensive process

hard leaf
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the more dangerous time for any failure is at the startup

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not only on pc, but on any electrical appliance

vernal cosmos
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With a pc you never really power off fully

scenic solar
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Is it better to use sleep mode?

hard leaf
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yes

vernal cosmos
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Since psu always has power and it keeps supplying to all components

scenic solar
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Ok ty

wintry girder
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Mods i think we have a bot here

scenic solar
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yep i just told forks

wintry girder
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@mild jackal

scenic solar
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ban

wintry girder
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He spammed all the channels 😐

scenic solar
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yep

wintry girder
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Anyways since you’re here, is the b450m aorus good?

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For a 5 3600

scenic solar
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what gpu are you going to use

wintry girder
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6600

scenic solar
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then youll have to go for a b550

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you may want pcie 4.0 instead

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not 3.0

wintry girder
scenic solar
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eeh

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how much are you going to pay it?

wintry girder
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93

scenic solar
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mmmh

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see if you can get a good deal on a msi b550 gaming plus

wintry girder
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They’re all like $160

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So no

scenic solar
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oh

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i bought mine for 115 and i tought usa would have had better deals

wintry girder
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Where did u get it from?

scenic solar
wintry girder
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Oh

wintry girder
scenic solar
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for that price is ok....ig..?

autumn frigate
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@wintry girder a gpu in pcie 4.0 isn’t that much of a benefit from pcie 3.0

scenic solar
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you can use pcie 4.0 card in any other slot with different pcie vesions and it'll work fine, it may benefit a bit more from 4.0 ofc

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https://youtu.be/SvBovtT4Vf4 almost unnoticeable difference

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burnt spear
wintry girder
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Its the cheapest best option tho

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Because the 12400f is like 180 iirc

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And the 5 3600 is 150

autumn frigate
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It’s a 30$ difference

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For like better performances

wintry girder
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Yeah and im really really trying to save money

autumn frigate
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It’s gonna be better in the long run

wintry girder
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Its fine for now, in a few years when im better off financially im going to upgrade

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I just desperately need a replacement for my current laptop

scenic solar
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just wait some time, mke up some money and go for 12th gen Intel

cursive epoch
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12400f is about 164 rn

scenic solar
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depends where theyre going to buy it

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feelsweird bleh

cursive epoch
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this is the us i presume

wintry girder
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About $180

cursive epoch
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hm okay

burnt spear
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And technichally slightly better

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Actually

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10400f is $120

autumn frigate
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11400 exist btw

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150

cursive epoch
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eh not worth over 10400f

vast meadow
earnest rover
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Is there such a thing as switching a m.2 lane from sata to nvme or the other way around

cerulean wadi
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No, afaik. Although there's a certain slot that can work with m.2 nvme and m.2 sata i think. M.2 b & m key or something.

earnest rover
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I see, I had a situation the other day. I had a sata ssd in m.2_1 of my mobo got a new ssd a nvme

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New go's into m.2_1 while old go's into m.2_2

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It accepts the installation of windows (new ssd)

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But after a hard or soft restart it gave (no boot image error)

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How ever the drive won't show up in bois boot menu but shows in explore even have steam games installed on it

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Was wondering if u have to let bios know its an nvme form factor and not sata

cerulean wadi
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I'm not sure.

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earnest rover
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Guess my mobo brain just ain't like pcie

cerulean wadi
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Which mobo. Generally m.2 is pcie only, at least most mobos in the last few years.

earnest rover
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B450m pro gaming

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Latest bios

grizzled bloom
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From what I've seen the top m.2 slot is often PCIe only and the others can be either on modern boards

earnest rover
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Which is exactly how the sides are plugged in

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But bios will only pick up sata ssd as bootable for windows

grizzled bloom
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Official specs show all your slots to be sata compatible

dull flint
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ohhhh is that what u.2 is

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honestly had no idea lol

grizzled bloom
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No

dull flint
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no no the diagram

earnest rover
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Yeah I read through the official notes but idk it's strange

dull flint
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I had no idea how or what u.2 was lol

grizzled bloom
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Oh above yeah

earnest rover
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But what's m key type?

grizzled bloom
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Lol I need to scroll up sometimes

dull flint
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it's pcie 2.5"!? shockdoge

earnest rover
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I saw something about keys in bios but didn't bother to click anything I may regret

grizzled bloom
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If there's an option for key modes in bios try changing the SATA to B+M key

earnest rover
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I'll try tomorrow (my time zone).

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I'll mention you if that's OK when I'm done

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Couldn't resists

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That's it nun else

grizzled bloom
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Ah secure boot keys, yeah I'd just disable secure boot if windows is installed already tbh

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Doesn't have anything to do with drives except what's allowed to boot

earnest rover
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Don't see that option

grizzled bloom
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Just ignore it, not important unless you do Linux anyway

earnest rover
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What if....a big if the ssd just needs an update?

grizzled bloom
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That's a possibility

earnest rover
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Downloading an app for the ssd

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It's a wd s570 nvme

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Yeah it need an update gonna see what bios says now

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Nada lol

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Well I'll just keep it as a game drive.

grizzled bloom
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Weird

earnest rover
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i know

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and according to the pic its in the correct lane

scenic solar
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My MSI motherboard has a jrainbow connector and I wanted to know if it is compatible with the connector in the photo (despite it is 4pin and the motherboard connector is 3, I know what I'm doing)

IMG_20220718_135030.jpg
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Is the name the only thing that changes? Should it be compatible with all the other 3pin RGB connectors you find for fans/led strips?

eternal helm
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If that connector is for 5v argb, it'll work fine. But if it's 12v RGB, look for jrgb instead

scenic solar
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Oh nvm I just found out I had a 3pin RGB to 4pin Corsair fan connctor
I'll cut that and solder it to the rest of the led strip

scenic solar
scenic solar
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Solved:
OpenRGB doesn't let you set hardware lighting (the one for when the hardware is not open) and ram decides to stay lit in sleep mode and act strage at startup,
Corsair iCue however does allow you to set hardware lighting. I'll use iCue for fans and ram. With ram hardware lighting set to off (or both dimms will stay on in sleep mode) and use openRGB for other things like led strip and MB RGB

kindred rover
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My processor has TDP of 65W... says in the specs online... now i was using adobe lightroom classic... the tdp increased to 84W.. is it bad??? will it affect my processor??? i3 10105F

grizzled bloom
grizzled bloom
scenic solar
grizzled bloom
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65W

scenic solar
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Lol

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I'd say it's perfect ...
Just 35w more

grizzled bloom
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No wait it was 95W

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It's the 3600 I was thinking of

scenic solar
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3600 is 65?

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Everyone says a different thing

grizzled bloom
kindred rover
scenic solar
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So basically .2ghz more makes the 3600x a 95w CPU
Smh

grizzled bloom
kindred rover
grizzled bloom
vast meadow
scenic solar
vast meadow
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You should be able to turn off the rgb when pc sleeps in your rgb software btw

grizzled bloom
grizzled bloom
scenic solar
vast meadow
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Ic*e? weggSick

scenic solar
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C*orsair

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steveconfused oh god I didn't censor feelsweird

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Ok now ban me

scenic solar
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Click bios 5

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Found it Ig

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Is it ErP? Same thing?

grizzled bloom
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Yes

scenic solar
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Nothing else I should change?

grizzled bloom
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Shouldn't be anything no

scenic solar
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I just activated it, tried it with ram hardware lighting on and ram stays on (now it also cycles through RGB ) kekw
And mouse lights are still on...

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The mouse is not a problem
But ErP didn't do anything

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Actually it made ram RGBs keep going through Corsair RGB effects

grizzled bloom
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Hmm guess your board implemented it weird

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Try sleep state toggling

scenic solar
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But I've solved the ram problem just by setting hardware lighting to off in iCue

scenic solar
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Basically this is what happens in my system with iCue
Hardware lighting on → ram lights up at startup with the choose effect and ram stays on in sleep mode with the same effect
Hardware lighting off → ram doesn't light up until iCue kicks in and stays off when in sleep mode

cerulean wadi
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@scenic solar top left part of this pic. Just confirm what you're trying to use are the same voltage.

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cerulean wadi
scenic solar
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Yes, I know what I'm doing, output 5v, led 5v

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Btw I found a 3 pin I had bought from AliExpress, at first I thought it was a male connector but it only had a male-male 3pin adapter at the end

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Just removed it and now it is a normal 3pin female (RGB)

fading hedge
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Does anyone know why my G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x8GB RAM, which was made back in Jan 2021, has temperature sensors, but the sticks I just bought from Amazon don't?

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Tried contacting G Skill and Newegg, but they aren't any help

grizzled bloom
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There's not really any rhyme or reason to temp sensors. My kit doesn't have any and it's one that would really benefit from them...

frosty depot
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Is the 12600k better than a 9700?? I feel like it is.

grizzled bloom
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By a lot yes

frosty depot
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then canirunit is dumb lol

grizzled bloom
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Yes it is

frosty depot
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it's telling me I should "upgrade" to a 8700 to play certain games lol

grizzled bloom
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They barely ever update that, it hasn't been good in years

frosty depot
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oh

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It's been years since I've had a pc so yeah lol

cerulean wadi
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8c8t vs 6c12t, but I definitely wouldn't have made that swap. (8th to 9th, or vice versa)

grizzled bloom
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It probably doesn't know what to do with the e-cores when it scans you

frosty depot
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That makes sense

quartz zinc
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Yo im currently using a 240mm aio for my 12700k and only managed to push it to 5.1ghz without crashing. Should upgrading to a 360mm aio be able to push it to 5.2ghz or nah

hard leaf
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not a big change by swapping 240 to 360

quartz zinc
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I was also considering to buy a custom loop for the hell of it.

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With 2 360mm rads

grizzled bloom
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A better upgrade would probably be one of the contact frames for 12th gen to improve cooler contact

quartz zinc
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M

hard leaf
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at your point i should spend more on better vrms and the contact frame

quartz zinc
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Has a direct die frame came out for lga 1700 yet?

hard leaf
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yeah

grizzled bloom
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The thermal grizzly one comes with a lapping tool too

hard leaf
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gn tested it some days ago

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pretty solid decrease on temps

grizzled bloom
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Yeah like 6+ degrees

long geyser
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That's not direct die tho

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Just a new frame

haughty ore
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Anyone know the amount of L1/L2/L3 cache of the amd ryzen 5 5600g?

burnt spear
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any reason why?

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if youre wondering as to performance, its cpu is similar to a 3600 or 10400

haughty ore
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just wanted tk

midnight pollen
haughty ore
midnight pollen
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its 64k l1 cache

hard leaf
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this question is very awkward.... any noticeable/stability difference between a 16-20-20-40 and a 16-18-18-38 memory modules? just stock xmp and no manual tuning

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the answers on google are kinda... strange.... best to ask that to you guys

grizzled bloom
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Noticeable? Not really

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The 16-18-18 kit will probably overclock better but there might be a couple % difference at xmp

hard leaf
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so effectively for a regular joe ill just take the cheaper one between those right? like set xmp on and forget

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difference between those 2 are 5 bucks anyway, one is a vulcan and the other a ripjaw, both 3200

grizzled bloom
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Pretty much yeah, no practical real world difference

hard leaf
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gotcha

grizzled bloom
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Might be nice later to have the overclocking option though

hard leaf
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when you put it that way... yeah, like 89 vs 94? just 2 days without lunch. i can make it

vast meadow
hard leaf
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buying from the evga website they give you a free powerlink for the purchase of a psu

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very nice of them

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and a pcpartpicker discount 😮

cerulean wadi
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Powerlink is useless w/ most non-evga gpus btw.

hard leaf
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well no power link for me

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already filed a dispute on paypal

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yet evga charged my account already... what a company

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oh man

cerulean wadi
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Evga service ok, evga.com mediocre. Often times they have a sale Amazon would match it within a week. Plus returns are... not the easiest.

hard leaf
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yeah, ill have to wait

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at least the amount was 101.10usd, and paypal side with the little man most of the time, i have all the screenshots anyway 🙂

desert lion
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whats the best 200-250 dollar Z590 motherboard?

hard leaf
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why you want to spend that much on a z590? shouldnt be a better upgrade to jump to 12th gen instead?

vast meadow
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Big waste of money

desert lion
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i have 11th gen currently and dont want to switch as of now so i ask again whats the best z590 motherboard in the 200-250 dollar range

desert lion
vast meadow
desert lion
eternal helm
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$250 gets you a 12400f and b660 tbf. unless you have a 11900k or overclock the hell out of a 11600k/700k, the 12400 would still perform better in games

haughty ore
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what dimms do ppl get with the b550m

burnt spear
vernal cosmos
haughty ore
burnt spear
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Do you already have your cpu and or mobo?

haughty ore
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yeah

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b500m with amd ryzen 5 5600x

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so i just wanna find a good compatiable ram

burnt spear
grizzled bloom
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Ooh my RMA was finalized today and I got a return tracking number. It was in "repairing" status for no time at all. I guess they looked at my problem description and figured it's not worth fixing? At any rate I hopefully have a motherboard that can do xmp again soon.

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By no time at all I mean literally it went from "repairing" to "shipped" in the same minute lol

long geyser
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Could just be that no one switched it to "repairing" when it was being repaired. Prolly cant directly goto "waiting for shipment" to "shipping item", so they did "wait for shipment", "repairing", "shipping item".

ashen pulsar
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Any decent mobo for AM4 that isnt screaming "WOOO LED GAMER!"

long geyser
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I read that as "Wood LED Gamer"

burnt spear
ashen pulsar
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yes

burnt spear
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how much would you like to spend?

ashen pulsar
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ryzen 9 5900x or something

long geyser
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Also what country

ashen pulsar
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my range is USD$150-USD$300

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what i really care about is customizability, ports

burnt spear
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hay i know nothing about rgb am4 mobos

ashen pulsar
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it seems like the stuff that appears decent has a ton of leds when i look closer

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i found this but pcpartpicker doesnt strike me as the ideal place to get a decent idea of a motherboard

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the idea is that I would be able to expand if i wanted to in the future

burnt spear
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you mean as in upgrade the cpu later?

ashen pulsar
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obviously if i really needed to i could just get a different mobo

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nah more like more RAM

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or SSDs

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though i have a 2TB m.2 so i think i will be good on storage for a long time

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I have barely used up 250GB

burnt spear
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if you want to have multiple nvmes, youll likely want an x570 (3 nvmes+)

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but you can always use sata drives for mass storage, its not like sata drives are bad

ashen pulsar
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yeah

burnt spear
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b550s tend to have better vrms than x570s at similar price ranges

ashen pulsar
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i may not use this computer for the majority of my storage anyway

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i have a secondary unfinished computer i found in the trash that i could use as a server of sorts

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so my focus is more on the other features a mobo can offer

long geyser
burnt spear
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so nice io and vrms mainly

ashen pulsar
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yeah

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love me an I/O with lots of ports

burnt spear
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not much rgb tho

ashen pulsar
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yeah im good with less rgb

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this stuff will probably be hidden under a panel of some sort

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hmmm lacks wifi but that isnt an issue

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just means i gotta figure out how to add that

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(I live in a place without ethernet access)

burnt spear
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pcie wifi cards as well as external wifi cards are a thing, but wifi isnt too hard to fit in

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i just dont know am4 mobos enough to recommend a good one

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so id wait for someone else, maybe when pato wakes up tmrw

ashen pulsar
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yeah

long geyser
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Buying good M2E card and antennas should be like $20 - $25

ashen pulsar
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yeah nothing i cant handle

grizzled bloom
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That's some turn around time

long geyser
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Wonder if they just did board replacement and will repair the board at a later date

ashen pulsar
grizzled bloom
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That's what I was thinking, they saw my description of the problem, it wouldn't load any xmp profiles correctly on 2 different sets of memory, and decided right away it's just a replacement.

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I doubt they have X470 boards on hand at the local service center they had me send it to, so I might get upgraded to a X570

long geyser
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inb4 you get a x370 "upgrade"

grizzled bloom
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Well FedEx just updated and said I'll get it tomorrow so we'll see

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There's no way they'll send me X370 though, I already told them I have a 5800X on the RMA form

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I must say that is some nice turn around time, 4 days including shipping