overclocking

[wheat lintel]

Crucial Ballistix

[signal belfry]

Those oc really good

[wheat lintel]

It’s mostly just tightening up the timings

[signal belfry]

Expect the trcd and trp to be loose

[wheat lintel]

I’m at 3866 mt/s with everything else set to DOCP

[signal belfry]

And a high trfc

[signal belfry]

Just tighten it then

https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4 OC Guide.md

@wheat lintel I’d set 1.5v and work with it

[wheat lintel]

Ok thanks

This is where I’m at rn https://www.3dmark.com/spy/29452815

[zenith palm]

Yeah that gpu score looks better

[wheat lintel]

I wonder how much more itd take to break 19k overall

[signal belfry]

Wait did u ever do a repad?

[wheat lintel]

Not yet

It’s a FTW3 ultra so the stock pads should already be pretty good

[signal belfry]

What are temps?

I wouldn’t try vram overclocking if it’s in the 90s

[wheat lintel]

Core temps were around 65 iirc, mem temps I don’t remember off the top of my head, not at my PC rn

[signal belfry]

The stock pads aren’t that good

Basically the same as any other stock pad

[potent fiber]

Alec just hoping it's ftw3 quality. wink wink

[wheat lintel]

What’s TRFC2 and TRFC4?

I’m not seeing any talk of them really online

[lavish tundra]

tRFC 2 = tRFC / 1.346
tRFC 4 = tRFC 2 / 1.625

[signal belfry]

They don’t do anything iirc

Wait nvm

[sudden torrent]

On AMD this is true

[tall pelican]

they hopefully dont do anything because trfc2 gets triggered at like 80c, and 4 close to max operating spec

[sudden torrent]

My board just has an option for tRFC 1/2/4 and sets them all the same sooooo

[short blade]

just ignore them

leave them on auto

[wind prairie]

Washer mod or contact bracket for 12th gen

[sudden torrent]

Contact frame 100%

If you're comfortable setting the CPU on a bare socket with no guide

[wind prairie]

Whats the main difference because iirc they achieve the same goal

[sudden torrent]

Not quite

The washer mod aims to increase mounting pressure

The contact frame makes mounting pressure evenly distributed

The issue being the single lever socket bracket makes it apply unevenly

[wind prairie]

I see

[scenic vine]

Alternative refresh durations for high temp operation

Doesn't do anything in practice tho, you can safely ignore

[wheat lintel]

How much does having a second monitor affect your GPU performance for benching?

[proven canopy]

Just unplug it

[potent fiber]

Approx .03 percent. (jk, also literally depends what's on screen)

[signal belfry]

@wheat lintel there’s nothing to gain from a timespy score passing 19k bro

U should do a repad instead

More gpu oc gains 😎

[barren ridge]

i doubt it matters for his case

his card already has problems going over +1400

[signal belfry]

Idk his temps but I’d assume gddr6x is in the very high 90s

Maybe low 100s

[wheat lintel]

Yeah I have new pads coming in the mail

[wheat lintel]

I know, it’s kinda just a goal I want to hit

[signal belfry]

Make sure there the right sizes

Or else no contact

With gpu die

Btw what Tim r u using? I heard thermal right tf8 was pretty good

[wheat lintel]

MX5

Just checked my vram temps and they’re maxing at 70

Was too lazy to take and crop a full screenshot

And didn’t want to launch discord on my PC

Taken right after I finished a run of time spy

[sudden torrent]

Windows snipping tool is what I usually use for screen caps, rectangle capture mode and then it auto copies to the clipboard and opens a simple editor

[wheat lintel]

I was shutting my pc off right as I sent the pic so I didn’t feel like launching discord

Idk why but I feel like 72C is low for OCed GDDR6X

My room temp is 14-15C so maybe that could be why it’s so low?

[potent fiber]

Of course, especially if case airflow is decent. 100% gpu fans too, lol

[sudden torrent]

Yeah that's pretty low ambient, probably plays a factor

[wheat lintel]

I’m lucky I have a smallish room with an AC rated for a lot larger room in it

All this room really needs is maybe a 4000, maybe 5000 BTU AC, it has a 12,000 BTU unit in it

And I’m running it in a Lancool II Mesh so airflow is pretty damn good

[zenith palm]

Maxing at 70c? Cancel your repad order lol

[short blade]

pretty normal when not mining

even if mining with ambient that low and good pads it should be in the low-mid 70s

I get 60c over ambient with 3090 mining at 80% fan speed and good pads

[signal belfry]

That’s nice

[signal belfry]

Well if that’s with stock pads then I wouldn’t bother repading

[zenith palm]

Thought norm was ~85 with stock pads tbh

[short blade]

i mean he lives in a fridge

[zenith palm]

Didn't realize that tbh

[signal belfry]

Fr

He just keeps his groceries on desk his probably

He can probably drop 5-10c with a repad but there’s no point doing it at those temps

[wheat lintel]

Yeah those temps were with stock pads

This AC was easily my best investment for my room

Dropped my temps from around 90-100F to about half of that

[signal belfry]

What’s your weather temps?

[static oasis]

°C > °F

[wheat lintel]

Rn at the moment it’s 87F

[potent fiber]

High of 97F here today.

[sudden torrent]

It's 105F (40.5C) here this entire week and for the forecastable future

And my car AC picked now for the compressor to die

[wheat lintel]

You’re the 7th person i know that something in their car got screwed up

So far it’s you, my gf, my dad, and 4 buddies of mine

[potent fiber]

Laughs in 1997 truck

[sudden torrent]

It's an 06 Impala I'm just glad it hasn't had any more serious issues. Thinking about overclocking the engine with a racing filter

[wheat lintel]

How is the Ryzen DRAM calculator?

I feel like it’s just a gimmick

[zenith palm]

Crap

[wheat lintel]

So gimmick it is

Why does ramOC have to be so damn annoying

Bruh I can’t even launch XMP for some unknown reason now

[sudden torrent]

That's when you clear cmos

If you have other bios settings set too you can save a pre-overclock profile to save time. Memory overclocks you'll be resetting quite a bit.

[wheat lintel]

Don’t know what I did, GPU isn’t OCed at all

It’s just artifacting out of nowhere

[signal belfry]

@wheat lintel might be ram

If the trfc is to low

It might artifact

And the trcd and trcp

[wheat lintel]

Ram is at XMP

Wait no, it wasn’t

Yeah you definitely were right about that, I’m running time spy rn and no artifacts or anything after I brought ram back to XMP

Wait I’m stupid, GDDR6X wouldn’t artifact right?

[proven canopy]

It sure will when you overclock it

[signal belfry]

I thought it didn’t?

Only degrades performance

[proven canopy]

Yeah - you'll often see a performance regression before you get screen confetti

[signal belfry]

I went up to 1600 before and no confetti b4 lol

Just crashes after that

[potent fiber]

That's part of how gddr6(x) is, "smart" in a way to do it's own error correction or w/e & simply just reduce performance in a sense(when clocked too much).

[signal belfry]

I think that’s thermal trotting

[potent fiber]

Nah I'm really referring to the clockspeed. Something can be clocked high w/o thermal throttling. Either way though, we're losing performance. . Edit: specifically talking gddr6(x), not a cpu or gpu core.

[signal belfry]

Prob effective clock going down

I remember I hit a 5.4fhz effective on a 5ghz cpu oc b4

[potent fiber]

Yea don't even ask me about those cpu effective clocks and such. I'm still back to my "3770".

[kind walrus]

Effective is like, I wanna say a good phrase for it is real world speed?

Say the cpu reports 5.2GHz

But it's not always running that, it's bouncing up to that at an extremely fast rate and bouncing down to say just 5.10 GHz

Effective is like "This is mostly the speed it's actually doing, 5.15GHz"

[signal belfry]

Basically

[kind walrus]

This mightn't be the best example but effective clocks is a good way to observe how fast it's actually going and if youre clock stretching

[sudden torrent]

The issue with G6X slowing down before it crashes is a safety measure. The built in error correction can only handle so many errors. Each error it has to correct takes a few clock cycles to fix. Once you overload its capacity for error correction, that's when you get artifacts.

[kind walrus]

This is totally why you don't scale memory OC as high as you can go on Ampere, there's a sweet spot

[potent fiber]

It's also why you use something like Superposition to note how performance is going during an OC (of the vram).

[kind walrus]

Ye or time spy

Like my 3090 scales memory way over 1200 but the sweet spot going by score consistency is around +650

[signal belfry]

Yea unigine engine 8k is a good way of checking vram scores

[kind walrus]

Same can be said for mining, there's a sweet spot for best hash rate much like an undervolt

[signal belfry]

Actually

Mining is suppose to handle unstable vram

Making it stable

[kind walrus]

Oh, I probably don't know about that, I only ever did a little bit of it

[sudden torrent]

My GPU is stable mining at +1200

Gaming stable is closer to 700

Depending on the game

[kind walrus]

For me I had a stable 118MH/s at around 750

I also had an undervolt curve but I can't remember it off the top of my head lol, it was like, 250W power draw?

'twas a hot boi

[sudden torrent]

When I had the (garbage tier) 3090 that's about what I was drawing for 122mh

[kind walrus]

Actually that might even be the 3080

I can't even remember if it was the 3090

They both have similar memory sweet spots

[sudden torrent]

That one would only be stable mining at +400 without thermal throttling because garbage cooler throttled so fast

[kind walrus]

Which one was this again?

[sudden torrent]

Aorus Xtreme Waterforce

[kind walrus]

Sounds like a bad coldplate or something lol

[sudden torrent]

Nah everything about it was bad

[kind walrus]

The eagle card I have is pretty meh on temps too

[sudden torrent]

Well ok, the core was nice and cool on the 3090 but the vram thermal throttled in gaming lol

And that was before and after a pad swap

[kind walrus]

Yeah sounds like bad contact unless the backplate wasn't good for heatsoak

[signal belfry]

Same

I did+1600 or 1400

And +1000 gaming

[kind walrus]

My eagle gets up to like near 100C in games and that's with pad swap too

[potent fiber]

Gigglebite moment

[sudden torrent]

I can do some games at +1000 and some I can't have any OC at all

[signal belfry]

I could do 1400 gaming but id get random crashes

[kind walrus]

I mean Avi had his own heat issues on his gigabyte 6900XT with that 30C hotspot delta, that was posted in here even lol

[signal belfry]

And I wasn’t to sure bc I also did an undervolt

[signal belfry]

All those aibs got hot spot issues

[kind walrus]

But I ain't giving up my eagle. That card survived a P-GM psu. It's a trophy

[signal belfry]

Expect xfx sapphire and

Red devil

[kind walrus]

Even xfx has those issues sometimes

I think it was an XFX qick? 6600XT I seen with a 30C-ish delta too

[wheat lintel]

Uh oh

[short blade]

i got the confetti at +1800

[signal belfry]

Like a stress?

Or just running windows

[short blade]

nvm it was +1700

[signal belfry]

I got the same hash on 1400

[short blade]

well, that's with the 3090 powering the display lol

[signal belfry]

?

[signal belfry]

Nice

[signal belfry]

912 kh/j

I wonder how that happened

[short blade]

bugged readout

[signal belfry]

@short blade so can u run crazy high clock speed with monitor off no problem?

[short blade]

i only run +1300 normally

[signal belfry]

Just testing it

[short blade]

that way it's stable for gaming/working and mining at the same time

yeah i was just trying to push the limits

that was also before repadding

[signal belfry]

I haven’t tried that yet

Which model?

Nvm

Said in the thing

[short blade]

strix

profits are too low now to care about minor hashrate differences i think

already sold off my 5700xts

[sudden torrent]

Fun times at +1400

[zenith palm]

Ram testing on personal os moment

[zenith palm]

[signal belfry]

U earn ram oc badge once u artifact bios

[lavish tundra]

Is this nasa edition space wallpaper?

[dull ginkgo]

Brand new high definition image from NASA telescopes
The black spots are starlink satellites

[lavish tundra]

EXACTLY.

[modern walrus]

good enough?

[mental turret]

👀 👀 👀 👀 👀

[signal belfry]

Yea

[signal belfry]

What is that for?

[mental turret]

overclocking

gotta get my chip nice and cold

[signal belfry]

Mhz let’s down a lil bit

[signal belfry]

So uh 2160mhz isn’t war zone stable

Ram in a game for 3 mints

Looked fine till it crashed

Can a gpu run more stable when it’s cooler?

Sad 2130mhz noises

Boost to 2145 mhz sometimes

So it’s stable at war zone 4k

I think my bin was decent

It was only air cooled

Is it ok to daily 1075mv tho?

So going to 2160mhz makes it crash

Anything below seems to be fine

It ocs so weird

So the boost clock changes as temp changes which makes sense

But in lower demanding games it makes the clock go to high

[potent fiber]

That's part of design. 1075mV is probably fine, not much above stock peak volts. Sometimes 4k isn't the best for tuning. You've noticed by how lower loads can let the clock go too high & maybe crash.

[signal belfry]

I think I’ll just set a profile for 4k

[mental turret]

[echo mica]

anyone know what a good voltage would be to undervolt my 3080

[zenith palm]

You want to use a voltage frequency curve - here's a guide although for stress test I'd use 3d mark timespy (extreme if you have the paid version)
https://youtu.be/zUkPAVcb9Xc

[signal belfry]

@short blade

it would sustain 2145-2175 mhz on the 1st graphivs test then it would go down in the 1900s on other ones, pretty sure the power limit is stopping me from passing 19k, but I don’t really care, nvm I passed 19k in an old score

[static oasis]

What card?

[zenith palm]

https://tenor.com/view/you-need-glasses-gif-11172827

[night grail]

embed fail

[static oasis]

Yea
I do

💀

Shouldn't the score be higher?

No

Just checked, that's really good

[signal belfry]

I think but I’m running an i7 10th gen

[static oasis]

It's actually very very good, the base score should be about 14.6k

And you just killed that score by 4k

[potent fiber]

If the PL limit on the 1st gfx test was lowering the core, that shows once again how an UV can/would counter the PL a bit. Stock voltage on most of the 30 series is quite generous & we know the 3090 (ti) have a non-small wattage.

[short blade]

yeah I knew there was no way you were sustaining 2145 in 3dmark lol

not with an FE

1900 looks about right

I sustain like 2010 in 3dmark but it takes 600 watts to do so

you could do that with shunt mod

[short blade]

for a 3090? lol what

stock 3090 does not score 14.6k

even my 3070 beats 14.6k

[static oasis]

I just googled 3090 timespy score, I got that as a result of the research...

[faint tangle]

14.6k is super low

my 6800xt got in the 20ks, without even a proper oc

[short blade]

no idea what you're looking at

[potent fiber]

Easy enough to just search 3090 on the the futuremark site to get common scores, and the gfx score is a better comparison. "Total" score is impacted by cpu & ram.

[static oasis]

Idk why but Google said 14.6k

[short blade]

my 3070 does like 15.5k lmao

[zenith palm]

Sounds like you where looking at overall score instead of gpu, my 3070 got 15k in timespy

[short blade]

14.6k is still an incredibly bad overall score for 3090

must be like, pentium 4 + 3090

[potent fiber]

Also 3770 + 3090, challenge accepted (someday)

[static oasis]

Lol

Intel centrino

[sudden torrent]

That's why you never just accept the results Google gives you without looking closer at the data set

[zenith palm]

Oh yeah I've an overall of 13k with my old 3070 + r5 3600

[short blade]

I have 15139 overall with 5800x and 3070

goes up to 20k with the 3090

[sudden torrent]

21k on a 3080 ti 😎

[signal belfry]

It’s unrealistic power draw in a game tho

And that oc raises temps quite a bit

[signal belfry]

Not a hardcore overclocker lol, just a guy looking for a bit more fps

And my 2 8 pins might go boom boom lol

Out of curiosity could u use the 3090ti 3 8 pin ping on a 3090 would draw from the third 8 pin with a shunt?

[short blade]

yes i just didn't believe you were sustaining 2145mhz under heavy load

and you aren't

[signal belfry]

It could hold up in furmark 2100-2130

[short blade]

what was the effective clock?

i get like 1300 in furmark lmao

[signal belfry]

Idk

[signal belfry]

U have to turn on 8x

[short blade]

something like 1365mhz @ 480W

[signal belfry]

To get your oc

[signal belfry]

It’s cause u didn’t turn on anti alizasing