graphics-cards

[lone pond]

No

3090 is priced well

[barren hull]

but 6900xt better

[lone pond]

its meant to be a substitute for the no longer produced titan

on ray tracing?

No

[barren hull]

ok

[lone pond]

with DLSS 3090 beats it

6900xt we dont know if its good or not

yes we do

[barren hull]

yeah

[lone pond]

no 3rd party benchmarks

[barren hull]

is it good

[lone pond]

well we know its good

just not how it compares to 3090

[barren hull]

mayeb i get 3080 or 3090

[lone pond]

and in rtx games

[barren hull]

depends

[lone pond]

It has the same exact ram specs as the ones that are benchmarked

[barren hull]

idk

[lone pond]

it won't have that much of a difference

[barren hull]

what better FPS

3090 or 6900XT

they both seem good

[lone pond]

3090

wait what resolution are you playing on?

[barren hull]

either 2k or 1080p

havent chose yet

[lone pond]

if you do 1080p just do a 3070

on 1440p do the 3080 or 3090

[barren hull]

ok

is 1440p = 2k?

oh ok

so either 3080 or 6900xt

it depends

[lone pond]

for 144 FPS 3070 is by far no where near sweet spot on ray tracing

DLSS its gets close

but still

[barren hull]

when benchmark comes out i will chose

[lone pond]

Yeah

[barren hull]

raytracing + resource pack in minecraft

20 fps with 3070

[lone pond]

what

[barren hull]

better with higher grahics card

yes really

[lone pond]

oml

no

[barren hull]

it drains fps like hell

[lone pond]

So why am i seeing it at 70 FPS?

With max chunk distance

[barren hull]

um

idk

[lone pond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA-p0DoWRXo

stop looking at bad benchmarks

[barren hull]

not a good resource pack

good shaders and rtx

will get 20

fps

[lone pond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Mwo3mh9dQ

are you thinking of a different card?

[spare salmon]

i thought 30 series handled RTX pretty well, at least compared to 20 series

[lone pond]

Still seeing 70 fps

[lone pond]

Pretty sure hes looking at a 2070 man

[barren hull]

he is not using a resource pack in the video

[lone pond]

Yes he is

Thats atleast a 512x

maybe 1024

[barren hull]

there ya go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqopUzlcE2c&t=92s

that one

is what im using

on the pc

[lone pond]

the benchmark i just put in

above your video

is using a resource pack

it will be no different with different resource packs

that's not a benchmark man

that's not even rtx...

[barren hull]

hmm

well should i get 3080 or 3090 or 6800xt or 6900xt

idk

[lone pond]

3080

do not ever buy current AMD cards for ray tracing

[spare salmon]

well the 3080 for RTX and 4k or 1440p yeah

[lone pond]

3090 for 4k

[barren hull]

well how do i buy 3080

[spare salmon]

best if u dont rn

[barren hull]

out of stock on every store on the planet

[lone pond]

if you're spending enough money for your monitor to register that FPS 3090 is best

[spare salmon]

except for Scalper World lol

[barren hull]

wdym

[spare salmon]

AMD's got good performance, but yeah not as good raytracing

[lone pond]

Not talking about your case

im talking about 4k

[spare salmon]

aka 4K 144hz monitor

[lone pond]

not 2k

[barren hull]

ohh

ok

[lone pond]

do you already have the cpu and mobo?

[barren hull]

what is mobo

[lone pond]

mothebroard

[magic cairn]

How long will my 2060 super perform well

[barren hull]

cpu

https://www.microcenter.com/product/630284/amd-ryzen-7-5800x-vermeer-38ghz-8-core-am4-boxed-processor

[lone pond]

Nvidia prices will drop as AMD gets better

[magic cairn]

I wanna know when to upgrade

[lone pond]

Nvidia has more money

yes do you have the cpu

in your posession

[barren hull]

no

[lone pond]

they can do whatever they want

[barren hull]

not rn

[spare salmon]

well if i were to choose between the 6800XT and 3080, I'd get the 3080

[lone pond]

well both that cpu and the gpu you want aren't going to be possible to get for the next several months

yeah im never buying AMD cards

[spare salmon]

6800XT does do 1440p better tho

[lone pond]

if the ram stays the way it is

[barren hull]

motherboard

https://www.microcenter.com/product/608746/msi-x570-mpg-gaming-edge-wifi-amd-am4-atx-motherboard?ob=1

[lone pond]

I don't think AMD will get to nvidias level of RT

most games that are working on or us ing RT partnered specifically with Nvidia

[spare salmon]

eh RTX is a cool feature and all, but i don't find it super necessary. AMD's cards are good in my book

[barren hull]

I think ima wait to get the 6900XT benchmarks beforce i chose between 6900XT and 3080

[lone pond]

and Nvidia is always going to be a generation ahead with RT

[barren hull]

so frickin hard to chose what card to get

[lone pond]

ray tracing is becoming more and more prevalent in newer games though so im sure in next few years ray tracing capability will be more important

[delicate bison]

raytracing doesnt matter about fps games so if you play alot of fps i would reccomend 1660 super

[barren hull]

i am not that big of a need of raytracing but i will usually use it in minecraft

[spare salmon]

all of them are pretty good. even the mid-end choices like the 3070 or 6800 can do ultra settings 1440p or medium-high settings 4K.

[barren hull]

i think ima talk to "Techie"

the role

[spare salmon]

for 1440p gaming i presume?

i've heard rumors of the 3060 ti though. said to be better than the 2080 super for like $400.

yeah 2K ftw. 4K is just too expensive tbh

[barren hull]

the real reason i want a 3090 is because when the card slowly becomes outdated, i want it to last a while before being completly outdated. and i will evantually move on to other games besides minecraft that need a better graphics card

[spare salmon]

am already immersed in 2K. how many more pixels do i even need lel

[barren hull]

read what i wrote

[lone pond]

3070ti when that comes out even

[spare salmon]

@barren hull i mean, something like the 1080 ti is 4 years old and still going strong.

[lone pond]

3090 is overkill in general

[spare salmon]

just because new stuff comes out doesn't mean your stuff is obsolete

[barren hull]

but when it gets outdated i want it to last a while

[spare salmon]

how long is awhile to you?

[barren hull]

kinda not true

but]

[lone pond]

if youre looking for longevity youd be better off spending 700$ on 3080 and in 3 years send the other 800$ you would have spent on a 3090 on whatever gpu is $700-800 in 2023

[barren hull]

in 3-4 years it will become outdated

[spare salmon]

not even then lol. how would a 4K-ready GPU ever become obsolete is my question xd

[barren hull]

i am currently on the shittiest pc on earth

thats why im building a new one

[lone pond]

ok...

[spare salmon]

i feel like if i got a 1080 ti back in the day, I still wouldn't upgrade to the 30 series since it's still a really good GPU for 1440p

[lone pond]

get a 3080

[arctic phoenix]

how much were 1080tis?

[barren hull]

3080 2k gaming is that fine

[spare salmon]

$700 MSRP i think? they go for like half that today

[lone pond]

I think 1080ti msrp was 1k

~1k

[arctic phoenix]

pretty sure they went for around 1kish

ye

[spare salmon]

oh really? dam

hmm i just looked it up and it says $700

[lone pond]

ah I stand corrected

[spare salmon]

and nvmd it launched 3 years ago so

[arctic phoenix]

i think they sold for around 1k

afaik

[lone pond]

I just remember it being 1k after 20 series released

but prices prob went up

[arctic phoenix]

because it was the best card by far back then

[barren hull]

when is 40 series coming out

nvidia

[lone pond]

1-2 year

[arctic phoenix]

unconfirmed

[barren hull]

ok

[spare salmon]

yeah 20 series was kinda disappointing. the 2080 couldn't even beat the 1080 ti of the last gen

[arctic phoenix]

pretty sure it can

[spare salmon]

for the same price too. just RTX

[lone pond]

thats a rough estimate, i think itll prob be 2 years before 4000 series

[barren hull]

does 3090 have a better rtx than 3080

[arctic phoenix]

yes

[barren hull]

ok

[arctic phoenix]

more expensive usually is better lol

[spare salmon]

bruh

[barren hull]

ok

the 3090

i think ima get 3090 then

[spare salmon]

$1.5K for the GPU alone?

[lone pond]

if you are using the 3090 for that shader pack you sent earlier, then sorry to say but you do not need a 3090

[spare salmon]

you could make a 3080 build for that same amount

[lone pond]

that shader pack was not the rtx mod

it doesnt utilize ray tracing cores

[spare salmon]

i feel like he's lowkey trolling us

[lone pond]

you would be pissing your money into the wind

[barren hull]

loll

ok

[barren hull]

wdym what does it utilize then?

[lone pond]

normal cuda cores...

its not a ray tracing game if you dont have the rtx mod

(minecraft)

[barren hull]

ok

[lone pond]

How much does the gtx 690 cost originally

[barren hull]

does 3090 have more cuda cores than the 3080

[ripe ivy]

Yes

[barren hull]

ok

so better for rtx

[ripe ivy]

Eh, I guess? It's been shown to only be like 15% faster in a best case scenario. But at everything else it's pretty minimal differences

You shouldn't even be considering a 3080 let alone 3090 for 1080p gaming

[lone pond]

@barren hull you're trolling, right?

[barren hull]

no

[spare salmon]

what even is ur budget man

[barren hull]

why do you think i am trolling

idk

maybe 3500 tops

[sonic crypt]

because u want a 3090 for 2k or 1080p

o.o

[ripe ivy]

Are you getting a new monitor with that money?

[sonic crypt]

wadew

[barren hull]

yes

lemme send linl

link

[spare salmon]

well with that money, yeah he can ig

[ripe ivy]

Then have fun

[spare salmon]

4k 144hz monitor, 3090, 5950X, the whole works lmfao

[lone pond]

do you know what your budget would be?

[barren hull]

3500 tops

[spare salmon]

mans said up to 3500

USD?

[barren hull]

yes

usd

[lone pond]

lol well

[spare salmon]

jeez

[ripe ivy]

Amazing

[lone pond]

christmas gift?

[barren hull]

christmas + next christmas

[spare salmon]

im just assuming the guy just doesn't know stat about PCs lol

[lone pond]

you're stretching it out over two christmases?

just half the budget and get everything this christmas lol

[spare salmon]

a 4k 144hz monitor is like $700 right?

[lone pond]

probably

[barren hull]

no i am getting it this christmas but i can't have anything next christmas

[spare salmon]

$3500?

[barren hull]

yeah

[spare salmon]

$1500 for the 3090 and $700 for the monitor still leaves $1300 for everything else...

[lone pond]

i mean

you can still get a 3080 and be fine for 3-4 years lol

[spare salmon]

i honestly would just get what i need and save the rest for something else

[lone pond]

if you spend less now you'll have more to spend on upgrades later down the line

[spare salmon]

u could easily do a $1500 3080 build and be set for the next few years

[echo latch]

he wouldnt have to upgrade his monitor gpu for a long time though

[spare salmon]

or, a little more for a 1440p 144hz monitor, but still

[lone pond]

^

[lofty karma]

if it's christmas id push for like 4k lol so u would have a safe budget for rig with the 3090

[barren hull]

ok

il get 4k

[lofty karma]

u still wanna have other top tier components, not spend most on gpu and have lesser other stuff since 5950 is also almost 1k

[ripe ivy]

Honestly just get the 5900X

[barren hull]

i think i will get this gpu

[ripe ivy]

Like that's plenty of CPU

[barren hull]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/630284/amd-ryzen-7-5800x-vermeer-38ghz-8-core-am4-boxed-processor

either that or 5900x

[ripe ivy]

I would try for the 5900X I think it's the better deal in the long term

[barren hull]

ok

[grand pivot]

I have a 4 gig 1050ti but I’m able to get 5 gigs of vram in Cold War

[gritty notch]

@barren hull with that money id get a prebuilt tbh

not a mass produced one but youll end up saving cause they have the cards and cpus already, itll offset the cost of them building it for you

[grand pivot]

Where is the shared gpu memory from because I know it is different than the dedicated memory

[whole jackal]

I have $750 for an RTX 3070 FE dm me if you're looking to sell

[daring tusk]

750 for an FE? you realize that is 250 over retail price

if your willing to spend that much just get a 3080.

[ripe ivy]

3070 restocks more commonly than the 3080 as it is too

[daring tusk]

ive found it to be the opposite

[ripe ivy]

It's what I've been hearing anyway

[daring tusk]

either way dont spend 750 on a 3070

[ripe ivy]

From others that are following the restock notifications

[daring tusk]

waste of $250

if this dudes got $750 for a gpu he could watch stocks on both and get the first one he has a chance on

if hes lucky a 3080

thats what scalpers hope for

[ripe ivy]

They love the desperation, gives them a reason to do what they do after all

[daring tusk]

yup

[ripe ivy]

Vicious Cycle

[real echo]

@whole jackal begone scalper

[whole jackal]

wants to buy a GPU from somebody who has already scalped one

gets called a scalper

Stay mad

[real echo]

Oops I didn't read that properly 😂

My bad lmao

[golden scaffold]

Yo, whenever I look for 2060 GPUs

I see all these different types n' shit, with different prices too

is there a rule to what I should be steering away from?

[fallow pike]

anyone know when newegg is restocking on 3070s that arent price gouged? lol

[daring tusk]

sometime within the next week hopefully

[fallow pike]

the only ones in stock are wildly over priced... sadly hte dark side of capitalism

[daring tusk]

yup

mostly its jsut bundles that get stock so watch those

why they cant jsut sell the cards idk its dumb

were gonna return the bundled item anyways so it doesnt help them sell other stuff

[fallow pike]

i mean i already have everything else lol

what am i gonna do with an extra PSU?

[daring tusk]

exactly

newegg is jsut making it annoying for them and the buyer

[fallow pike]

yea suppose part of the issue is miners and bots

[nova quartz]

who tryna sell me a gpu cheap tho?

[terse bloom]

Rumor is they're doing bundles to make it harder to scalpers and bots. Probably cause bots are going after single item units, rather than combos or bundles?

Either case, I'm just keeping my eye on Micro Center anyway. Mostly seeing 3070 and 3090 restocks at the locations I'm watching though, and I'd rather get the 3080.

[fringe pilot]

I might be pushing to get a 5900x for my next comp, I just wonder what graphics card to get, I haven't looked much, I know the new Radeons are nothing to write home about, but frankly I care nothing for 4k

[silk kiln]

anyone know if a ryzen 7 1700x would bottleneck with a 3070?

and is there any info on 3070/3000 series restocks or anything like that?

pls ping me if you can help, ty

[spare relic]

I think an i7-4790 would probably be a better fit for the 3070 for games at least lol

[silk kiln]

so i would probably need to upgrade my cpu as well?

[spare relic]

maybe

what do you want to do with the computer>

?

[silk kiln]

well i mostly just want to upgrade for gaming

[spare relic]

ah

what motherboard do you have?

[silk kiln]

asus prime b450m-a iirc

[spare relic]

a couple of good CPUs you could get, R5 3600, R3 3100

you would get better performance in single thread tasks with both of them, the 3100 falls behind the 1700X in multithreaded tasks, and the 3600 beats the 1700X in that area as well

[silk kiln]

are there any significant differences between intel and amd cpus?

[spare relic]

and games are mostly single threaded, so the 3100 will still be an upgrade

yes they are Mr. Coomer

https://tenor.com/view/dr-coomer-half-life-half-life-vr-sad-wife-gif-17254768

[silk kiln]

cpu names confuse me lol

[spare relic]

there's some AMD CPUS that are badly priced at the moment

3600 is one of them

[silk kiln]

i mean performance wise

[spare relic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGOcKQ6btBU

should be fine tbh

[silk kiln]

ok, so i really shouldnt have bottlenecking issues?

[spare relic]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silk kiln]

good enough of an answer for me lol

thanks for your help

[spare relic]

yw

have fun with 3070 if you get it

[silk kiln]

eh ill try my best but at this rate it might be a while

[spare relic]

I want to get a 3050

[weak viper]

Who took all the GPU’s : (

[shut rampart]

Tempted to buy and resell a 3070

But smh I shouldn’t do that

Do ppl really buy at marked up prices?

[oblique estuary]

Please don’t

[rich oasis]

@shut rampart where are you thinking of buying one lol

Its not hard if your diligent

But i guess you could

[fringe pilot]

Don't be like the guy that horded PS5s and bragged on Twitter before getting robbed

[spare relic]

robbed?

no, justice was served

there was no robbery

😎 @sterile parcel

[lucid moth]

are rtx30 fe cards american exclusive?

[stone totem]

FE cards are paper launch anyway, almost nobody got touched them

[balmy bear]

hello all hope you are fine? where should ask a question for cpu and gpu? thanks

[lone pond]

#cpus-mobo-and-memory and #graphics-cards

If you are building a pc: #building-and-recc-chat

[balmy bear]

ok thank you so much sweet @lone pond, it is a laptop (think to buy it)

so my question if cpu i5-10300H is very good with RTX 2070? or it could be a bottleneck here?

[lone pond]

Probally, it is a 4/8 cpu with.newer AAA games using more than 4c, though 8t might help however

[balmy bear]

laptop is an MSI GL65-Leopard-10SFK-641XFR

@lone pond yes it is a 4 core and 8 threads

so my cpu will limit the gpu?

or not

someone may help me to let free this doubt go away lol

thanks ♥

[bleak tusk]

Alooo guys

Any elpers

My gpu is sagging

[lone pond]

Gotta be honest, i am really bad with laptops

[bleak tusk]

Anybody can recommend a good sag bracket?

[balmy bear]

@lone pond ok but thanks for all

[bleak tusk]

No helpers

[lone pond]

It's midnight in US so you gotta wait

[bleak tusk]

[fluid star]

[marsh charm]

They've barely been restocking 3080's in the past week, think it has something to do with Thanksgiving?

[jovial goblet]

Nope

[jovial goblet]

Its still because of the increased demand+little supply paired with the amount of bots swarming the retailers

everyone in the US is better off buying in asian regions because there is lesser demand and no bots because not everyone wants or is able to buy the 30 series here

[marsh charm]

but how long does that take to ship

[lone pond]

Corona is also delaying things up

[bleak tusk]

You are right there are abundance of 3070 and 3090 here

[bleak tusk]

But are you guys willing to pay our price

[jovial goblet]

thats the thing

3090s are around $2000 msrp

[bleak tusk]

My distributor is asking if i want the 3060ti

Its a zotac card

Its out already here

[jovial goblet]

3080s are $1000 msrp

and the 3070s are $750 msrp

[bleak tusk]

Sounds about right, slightly higher depending on model

[jovial goblet]

true

[bleak tusk]

I can refer you to a website if you guys really wanna buy

But its asian warranty

2-3 years

Doubt your card will break within that time frame

🤷🏻‍♂️

[sullen nest]

huh?

how do u buy them in asian markets if you live in the US?

[bleak tusk]

Just buy it and get it fedexed

Ask the retailer if they are kind enough to that for you, some of them will

Btw so any of you guys can help me with my gpu sag problem?

[sullen nest]

whats ur problem?

ive seen somone make a lego stack and put it under the GPU matching the color scheme they had and it looked cool

[bleak tusk]

I do it that way, i use a lian li case with 3 fans at the bottom

I have the gpu vertically mounted

But its starting to sag

[sullen nest]

can u sent a pic?

[bleak tusk]

I am out but here is a rough pict

Oo i cant send picts here

[sullen nest]

ok send it in puild pics

and ill look it there

[bleak tusk]

I sent it already

I have that free stand from msi but its not ideal

Its standing on my fan

[sullen nest]

yea um i cant seem to find a vertical gpu sag bracket

i thought they were a thing

can u send me a link to a asian company that has 30 series?

[lone pond]

https://youtu.be/t9H2PfYDFok

Another card out of stock

[sullen nest]

aw man lmao

cant even find 20 series in stock under the original MSRP price 😢

[bleak tusk]

They have it in my country, my shop just asked whether i wanted a palit card sold at 7.7 million indonesian rupiah

[bleak tusk]

[lone pond]

Nice.

[bleak tusk]

Sure

This site is easiest to navigate for you, its lime a market place. But the retailers here are still old school so they dont have their own site. So they use this site

[bleak tusk]

Ummm newegg wouldnt let me post a link to website

[sullen nest]

u can dm me ig

[bleak tusk]

I sent you dm in discord

@sullen nest like i said i dont think you wanna pay our price

[sullen nest]

nah lmao

just converted it

[lone pond]

is there specific kind of GPU i need to fit my Motherboard or can just get any one that i find

[sullen nest]

there are some that cant go with others yes.

[lone pond]

ok

[sullen nest]

what are u thinking about pairing>

[lone pond]

so if i have an LGA 1151 300 series Motherboard, what kind of graphics card do i need

i also have LGA 1151 300 series CPU

[bleak tusk]

Told ya

Good luck with your hunt hopefully you find one

[lone pond]

anybody gonna answer me :((

[fervent obsidian]

whatever fits ur budget

anything works

[lone pond]

?

[fervent obsidian]

for the card

[lone pond]

but @sullen nest said some cant go with others

[fervent obsidian]

well i wouldn't get anything old old

[lone pond]

i am not looking for old

[fervent obsidian]

what are you looking for?

[lone pond]

im looking for something that gets me like 2 ping on average

[lone pond]

LGA 1151

8th or 9th gen

[fervent obsidian]

i mean for graphics card

[lone pond]

i dont have my eye on anything yet

but i need to knwo what is compatible and what is not

[fervent obsidian]

what's exact mobo / cpu

[lone pond]

wdym

[fervent obsidian]

the motherboard and cpu you have

[lone pond]

like the type?

they're LGA 1151 300 series

[fervent obsidian]

but like model

[lone pond]

like Intel

oh

ok

lemme check

can we do this in a DM i dont know hwo to check the model. i will send u the links

[fervent obsidian]

sure just dm me the links

we'll talk here tho it's better to

[lone pond]

ok

[fervent obsidian]

yes those will be compatible

[lone pond]

Is 3060 gona be good? I dont have a really big buget and im looking to build a pc, with 3060 it fits in my buget.

with LGA 1151?

[fervent obsidian]

yes the cpu is compatible with the mobo/socket all good

[lone pond]

ok

so i will look at that thanks 🙂

[fervent obsidian]

olis what is the budget?

[lone pond]

Around 1,2k euros

Which is around 1,400$

Or even a bit more

[fervent obsidian]

yeah that's a solid budget might be able to put more on gpu though

[lone pond]

Ok thanks

3060 with ryzen 5 5600 will be able to run games like csgo, cod and other big games at 144+ fps with high or medium setting?

[static zinc]

@lone pond yes, it should be around 2080 super performance

[lone pond]

Ight thanks

[graceful star]

I wonder how much stock of the new $399 Nvidia GPUs are going to exist.

[static zinc]

sell out in seconds as usual

[winged granite]

and then go up for sale for $800+

[dusk oasis]

what exact time does 3060ti is coming ?

[static zinc]

@dusk oasis 6am cst id imagine like the 3080/70

[crisp ocean]

1650 super or 5500xt, which is better

[dusk oasis]

@dusk oasis 6am cst id imagine like the 3080/70
@static zinc i’ll try to get it in a local mexico store

there’s no demand and a lot of stock

there’s like 300 5600X remaining

[ripe ivy]

They're about the same, the 5500XT has an 8gb option but that doesn't necessarily make it better in all scenarios

[crisp ocean]

4gb option would be the one available

so im going with the 1650S

[sullen nest]

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GeForce-Graphics-Tracing-3xDisplayPort/dp/B08NXZSQM6/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=3060+ti&qid=1606835040&s=electronics&sr=1-4

lmao

[static zinc]

@dusk oasis damn really? u could make bank selling to usa

[ruby horizon]

found a 980 ti for $230. Is this a good deal? am upgrading from RX 570

[ripe ivy]

Uh I don't think so

1070s are about the same performance, have more bandwidth and they should be going for less

[ruby horizon]

ok

[ripe ivy]

Actually I kinda take that back it should be faster technically

[static zinc]

@sullen nest im going to buy it then return in 30 days once i get a restock 😛

[ripe ivy]

It was about the same performance on launch though

[sullen nest]

lol

to much for me

[ruby horizon]

cheapest gtx 1070 on ebay $300

[ripe ivy]

Yeah so right now

Everyone and their mother is trying to get a graphics card

[ruby horizon]

true

[ripe ivy]

So I'm not surprised that the second hand market the prices are inflating

[ruby horizon]

might wait and look on craigslist or something\

[ripe ivy]

570 is still a decent performer for 1080p gaming, personally I would wait until next quarter for this nonsense to die down

[ruby horizon]

k

[rigid crag]

The 6800 reminds me of the 20 series fe cards lol

[eternal locust]

Damn the 3060ti's look nice

If only they were actually gonna be available tomorrow

[sullen nest]

no one will get one ever 😢 lmao

[lone pond]

at what time do the 3060ti's actually drop and where?

[tribal hedge]

December 2nd, and probably similar timing to the other 30 series

[dusk oasis]

what were the other times ?

[eternal locust]

Like 9 am est i think @dusk oasis

[tribal hedge]

9 AM to 2 PM wasn’t it?

Like AIB’s would drop their stuff at different times for some reason

[lone pond]

I'm really only interested in the Founder's Edition card tbh

I'm kinda picky

[tribal hedge]

I’d recommend watching GN, LTT, Bitwit, a few others reviews

[eternal locust]

GN had a good video on it

[tribal hedge]

Generally it’s just a 3070 for maybe 2-20 frames less at $100 cheaper

congrats nvidia, you’ve made the 3090 and 3070 irrelevant by weaker cards

[lone pond]

if it helps my wallet, I'm not gonna complain

[tribal hedge]

Tbh

They literally have near identical noise and temps

[eternal locust]

and it starts at 399

not bad

[lyric ridge]

hi

[eternal locust]

realistically scalpers gonna be selling it more around 600-700

[rain sand]

I just want a 3080 lol

[tribal hedge]

AIB’s on their way to pull a 6800XT and price it way higher then it needs to be

[rain sand]

3060 would be great for my second pc

[tribal hedge]

Speaking of the AIB card prices aren’t meant to level out until 4-8 weeks later

I think it’s 4 weeks until stock finally becomes more available, and 8 for prices to reach their intended MSRP

Me waking up to say “Nvidia 3080ti bls” hoping Jensen will hear me

[faint pumice]

Looks like I'm camping at microcenter tonight

[rain sand]

if only there was a Microcenter in Florida😫

[green harness]

It's more useful to use percentage differences. From what I remember of the reviews the 3060Ti delivers 10-15% fewer fps than the 3070

[tribal hedge]

Mhm

And at $100 cheaper that’s a bargain tbh

Same thing for the 3080 to the 3090, except it’s even worse here. Same noise output and stuff lol

[green harness]

Looks like a decent enough option for 1440p in the short term, and very good for 1080p

Compared to other cards out it's better at cost/frame, but that should be expected I think for the lowest tier next gen card out atm

It's certainly good to have a cheaper next gen option coming out

[tribal hedge]

Something interesting is that it beats the 6700’ raytracing performance

*6800

[green harness]

I hadn't looked much at RT performance. I think it's a bit silly to focus on atm personally. I'd think if someone really wanted RT horsepower they'd need a 3070+ as the slides I saw for the 3060Ti iirc were just barely around 60fps

[tribal hedge]

60-70 yeah

[green harness]

But I haven't looked too closely, so grain of salt there

[tribal hedge]

For $400, 1440p60fps RTX isn’t bad

Like even if you don’t really care much, those are still pretty solid numbers for only $400.

[eternal locust]

If you care about raytracing

[lone pond]

minecraft raytracing with the boys

[eternal locust]

When the bois log on their 3000 dollar pcs to play minecraft

When you insist on having a 3090 so you can play league of legends at 500 fps to get an edge on the competition

[green harness]

Personally I am thinking for my next GPU I'll focus on rasterization performance and then when I get another one in 3-4 years I'll hopefully be able to get strong RT performance

In between if I can do something like play Quake RTX for the novelty I'll take it, but the tech doesn't seem quite mature enough for me to prioritize it

[tribal hedge]

Shroud has a 5950X and 3090 Founders

I’ve never been more jealous in my life

[lone pond]

that must be why he's so good

[tribal hedge]

Impossible

The human eye can’t see more then 24 fps

[eternal locust]

[karmic charm]

What's better than a 1650 super

[eternal locust]

you buying a GPU rn @karmic charm

[karmic charm]

Bo I just wanted to know

No

[lone pond]

1660

And 590...? But 590 is a smol.upgrade

And consumes way more power

[karmic charm]

Ok

[lone pond]

Yo so I know the 3060ti drops tomorrow. Do we know what time EST? Gonna have like 6 monitors on and try to snag one.

[tribal hedge]

Haven’t confirmed sadly

[lone pond]

Damn

Do you think Bestbuy will have any or mostly just Amazon and Newegg?

[dreamy dragon]

GrimmRx#3128 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

Dang

[tribal hedge]

Probably the usual retailers, like always

[karmic charm]

When is a good time to buy a gpu

[lone pond]

What I was trying to say was do you think the FE is worth it or no? I know some of the older FE cards have bad coolers.

Not now @karmic charm

[tribal hedge]

Oh, then yeah the FE is basically just the 3070

[karmic charm]

Ok how much is a 1660 regularly

[lone pond]

Regular 1660?

[karmic charm]

Yeah

[lone pond]

Not sure. I think the 1660 TI is normally like 260

[karmic charm]

Ik

[lone pond]

1660 super is like 240

[karmic charm]

Ok

[lone pond]

So i'd guess 200-220

[tribal hedge]

I’d wait until the 3050 exists

[lone pond]

^

[karmic charm]

Ok

[north sage]

Amazon

[lone pond]

I'm sure there will be a 3050 and a 3050ti

[north sage]

Ya

Budget of budget

[lone pond]

Yeah like 200-300$ cards

[tribal hedge]

Tbh if they brought back the 90 card, I bet the 50 will return

[lone pond]

I know 2080 super owners are punching the air rn

[north sage]

Mabye even 150

Beacuse the 3060 ti will be 250

[tribal hedge]

It’s $400 in America

[lone pond]

3060ti is 400

Yeah for the FE

Custom cards are rumored to be between 420 and 460 based on leaks

[tribal hedge]

Someone got one for $520 apparently

[lone pond]

Oof

Just buy a 3070

[tribal hedge]

So we might have a 6800/XT disaster again

[lone pond]

There was a thing online saying some people that ordered already got their cards

[ripe ivy]

You mean 3080 disaster, they started it

[lone pond]

There are already a few reviews on youtube

[tribal hedge]

I meant the ridiculous AIB pricing and terrible stock combo

[karmic charm]

Will a 1660 be good for a 3 3100

[lone pond]

It'll work

[karmic charm]

Ok

[ripe ivy]

Oh right where they're asking $100 or more over MSRP. I think that's a combination of the AIB and retailer wanting extra margin

[tribal hedge]

Mhm

Stock was always an issue, and as mad as you wanna get about the quarter million 3000 cards being sold, it wouldn’t have fixed anything tbh

[lone pond]

Damn scalpers

[tribal hedge]

That and you have to remember splitting the 375,000 cards across US, Australia and the rest of the world

[lone pond]

So why are there so few cards

Covid?

Silicon?

[tribal hedge]

Yeah, I think it was Covid

[ripe ivy]

The shipments run late

[lone pond]

Not enough child slaves to work the shops cause they're sick

[tribal hedge]

Because Nvidia only sorted out their deals with Samsung this year if I’m right

[ripe ivy]

So it takes longer to get the cards out

[tribal hedge]

So they basically had a last minute “ok we’re ready”

Which lead to LTT getting a defective 3060ti that died lmfao

[ripe ivy]

Really

[tribal hedge]

Mhm

[ripe ivy]

That's hilarious

[lone pond]

RMA time

[tribal hedge]

They couldn’t do benchmarks or anything because their card was defective, so they just had to use raw gameplay

[lone pond]

I just want a new card for Cyberpunk

[ripe ivy]

What do you have now?

[lone pond]

I think my 5600xt will run it but I want that RT

[tribal hedge]

What do you intend to play on for your resolution?

[lone pond]

1080p on a 144hz monitor

[ripe ivy]

Yeah that's fine

[tribal hedge]

Oh

3060ti ez

It hits almost 1440p60fps with RTX

[lone pond]

I dont mind not getting 144 hz on RPG games I mostly prefer higher refresh on E sports but I want to be able to max it out with some RT and get at least a steady 60

[tribal hedge]

And since the 3060ti and 3070 are near identical, the settings for Mid Quality and RTX still fit

[lone pond]

5600xt has no RT but Im guessing I should get at least 60 on high

[ripe ivy]

Have you seen the spec requirements for 1080?

[lone pond]

If I cant snag a 3060ti that is

Yeah its p low

1060 I think

[ripe ivy]

I expect that's for at least 60fps

[tribal hedge]

Prolly 30

[ripe ivy]

Nah that's silly

[tribal hedge]

Since that’s “playable”

[lone pond]

Hard to tell cause Consoles

Unless consoles are running it on 30

Which actually makes sense

[tribal hedge]

They’re running RDNA2 so, no RTX

[ripe ivy]

Well it

It's gonna be on last gen

[lone pond]

Yeah true

[tribal hedge]

Probably 30fps at the least

[lone pond]

Probably gonna be low settings

PS4 is 7 years old

[tribal hedge]

Which is surprising, because wasn’t it a 480?

Like for the minimum?

That’s usually a mid-settings card tbh

[ripe ivy]

RX 470

[lone pond]

Will a 3600x bottleneck my 3060ti?

[tribal hedge]

Probably not

[bleak slate]

no

[tribal hedge]

But it’s Ampere architecture

[lone pond]

Idk what that means

[tribal hedge]

So I can’t tell you much

[lone pond]

Ah ok

[ripe ivy]

There's always a bottleneck

[tribal hedge]

Essentially the main problem with 3090, 3080 and partially the 3070 was because Ryzen users and non-10th Gen users got screwed by Ampere

Until Ryzen 5000 kinda fixed that issue

[lone pond]

Is it just not optimized or too powerful or what?

[ripe ivy]

I mean not really

[tribal hedge]

But even then, the 3090 still bottlenecks even the 5950X apparently

[lone pond]

I wanted a 5600x but OOS everywhere

[ripe ivy]

There's not a CPU bottleneck that's really worth mentioning when you're playing at the expected resolution for these high end cards

[lone pond]

Yeah probably single digit fps

loss

[ripe ivy]

Well it's a "loss" that we wouldn't even know about

[tribal hedge]

The 3090 when it bottlenecks a 16-core Zen 3 CPU

[lone pond]

As long as you're not doing anything crazy like I3 chip from 5 years ago and a new 3090 you'll probably be ok

[ripe ivy]

Well that's the extreme example of cpu bottlenecking

[lone pond]

Thats what I mean

[tribal hedge]

Me omw to i3 and MSI Godlike

[lone pond]

I think a lot of people exxagerate bottlenecking

[tribal hedge]

Great combination

[dusk oasis]

athlon with 3090 TI SLI very nice 🤑😍

[lone pond]

Like OMG you didnt get a 500$ cpu for your 500$ GPU now you wasted all your monies

[ripe ivy]

A lot of people don't understand bottlenecking exactly, they think it's going to completely ruin their experience

[tribal hedge]

Hello yes tech Youtubers can you not over exaggerate everything ok thanks :)

[lone pond]

Hell I only got the 3600x cause 3600 was oos and it was on sale

Only paid 199

[ripe ivy]

I've been seeing the 9700K for that much

[tribal hedge]

Like everyone keeps saying “nvidias dead!!!” Because of the RX 6000 launch

Relax they won’t Rast. but it could take AMD’s several generations to get close to their RTX performance

*won

[ripe ivy]

I don't care about it until Raster is completely replaced by path tracing

[lone pond]

So is RTX even worth it? My buddy has a 2070 super and says it hurts his FPS big time

To where its almost unplayable

[tribal hedge]

That’s on uh

Turing correct?

Because Ampere entirely removed the problems with RTX for a good majority of games

[lone pond]

is the Radeon RX 580 any good?

[tribal hedge]

You can run native RTX for once, and put on DLSS and you’re getting 30%+ performance uplift

[lone pond]

Used? Yes.
New? terrible value.

[ripe ivy]

Eh, it improved it. But as far as I can tell, the cards at the same performance tiers are only marginally better at it

[lone pond]

Oh

[tribal hedge]

So if you want RTX, get a 2080S or higher, or even an Ampere card if you can find one

[lone pond]

i got a new one but we got a really good deal on it at obivosly newegg.com

Well yeah im keeping the 5600xt until I can buy a 3060ti

[lone pond]

How much for it?

[tribal hedge]

3080
3090
3070 to my understanding complete wipe the floor in RTX
3060ti beats 2080ti a bit, 2080S plenty and wipes the other Turing cards

[lone pond]

i honestly dont remember

my dad was kinda helping me

im 14 so dont have much money

[tribal hedge]

My only problems with the 3080 and 3070 is the one thing you’re all probably tired of hearing

The VRAM limitations

[ripe ivy]

Tbh even the new cards that replaced the 580 in terms of comparable performance are pretty much the same price new

[tribal hedge]

Bro

COD CW at 4K Max Settings nearly uses 95 percent of the VRAM in the 3080

[lone pond]

can someone go to #old-monitors-and-tv

Yeah I think within 2 years 8gb wont be enough

i need help

[tribal hedge]

Actually

[lone pond]

Hell my 5600xt with 6 is having problems

[tribal hedge]

3070 and in turn the 3060ti is getting bottlenecks already

[ripe ivy]

At 1440?

[lone pond]

AMD is pushing new cards with 16gb and possibly 12 on their mid range cards

can someone help plz

[tribal hedge]

High-to-Ultra settings, yeah

[ripe ivy]

Nvidia being stingy with Vram is hurting them now

[tribal hedge]

Imo it should’ve gone like this

10gb VRAM 3060ti
12gb 3070
10gb variant of 3080
20gb variant of 3080
24gb 3090

[lone pond]

I mean its faster 256 bus vs 192 but id rather have more slower than less faster

And yeah @tribal hedge I agree

[ripe ivy]

At 256-bit it should be 16

[lone pond]

For a $400 card 10 is fair

[night vault]

I think we should ask people what resolution they play on before trying to sell them on DLSS imo

[static rock]

3070 with more vram than 3080?

[ripe ivy]

Well that's my point, more Vram across the stack

[tribal hedge]

10gb for those that don’t really care about high to ultra settings

[lone pond]

3080 should be 12

16 I mean

[tribal hedge]

Or just play older games, and don’t really need more then 10

[lone pond]

sorry

So it should be 10,12,16,20, then 24

[tribal hedge]

20 would probably a 3080S

[lone pond]

1080p doesn't eat up too much Vram but 2k and 4k do

[ripe ivy]

156bit, 192bit, 256bit, 320bit, 384bit

[lone pond]

4 times the pixels

[tribal hedge]

20gb 3080 bls that’s all I want

[night vault]

idk i use my 8gb of vram on some games before i even reach 60% gpu usage

and i play 1080p

could just be that my card is stupid

[ripe ivy]

That's not using it, that's allocating it

[lone pond]

Yeah

[night vault]

no i meant like realtime usage

[dusk oasis]

That's not using it, that's allocating it
@ripe ivy exactly

[night vault]

using apps

[tribal hedge]

I already have my ideal 3080 planned

[lone pond]

If your GPU usage was 100% thats one thing

[dreamy dragon]

GrimmRx#3128 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

Damn

Gotta get use to that

[tribal hedge]

This chonker of a card

[fringe pilot]

Why is SLI still a thing at all? It was never cost effective

[main rapids]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-3060-ti-out-december-2/

Get your F5 ready

[tribal hedge]

Bit late on that but yeah

[dreamy dragon]

Graison#2062 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[night vault]

thats tomorrow?

dang

[tribal hedge]

Same exact FE as 3070 LOL

Although apparently the metal is silver instead of gunmetal

[lone pond]

Yes it is

[night vault]

yep good thermals too :) nice upgrade from my 5700xt

[lone pond]

No pigment

If we can get one lol

[night vault]

yep

ima sell my card used after i get it for like 300

[lone pond]

Not sure if accurate but appearently newegg did an oopsie and someone on Reddit caught it

They only have like 300 cards

[tribal hedge]

goddamnit

[lone pond]

As of a couple days ago

Thats why I wanna know exactly what time it drops

[tribal hedge]

Smart play

[lone pond]

So I can get my monitors set up like an hour early

[tribal hedge]

They just release at midnight lmfao

[lone pond]

And abuse my f5

[tribal hedge]

“Scalpers can’t get them if they’re not awake”

[lone pond]

Tbh Nvidia and AMD alike dont give a crap about their customers as far as scalping goes

As long as the cards sell they are happy

[tribal hedge]

I like how AMD said they’d have better protection

[lone pond]

I feel like Cyber power is who is buying them all cause they have a crapton of cards

Lol that was a lie

[tribal hedge]

Immediately gets an even worse launch then Nvidia

[lone pond]

They also said they wouldn't have a paper launch

I think they had even less cards than Nvidia

[tribal hedge]

Definitely

[lone pond]

Probably doesn't help they supply the CPUs and GPUs for the new consoles as well

Which are also soldout everywhere

[tribal hedge]

Also I find it weird that they plan to stop making Reference cards in Q1 of 2020

[lone pond]

2021?

[tribal hedge]

YEAH

AA IM STUPID

[lone pond]

LOLOLOLOL

I was like wait a min

What year is it

[tribal hedge]

Bro I’d kill to be back in 2019

Where things were in stock

[lone pond]

I miss 2015

When Mid range was 250-300

Not 400

[tribal hedge]

Probably because of a better economy

At least in America

Wages went up, economy got better, prices go up

Plus some companies were still recovering from 2009 and that disaster

[ripe ivy]

Eh that's partially true, but I still see it as Nvidia overcharging. Turing was prime example of that

They loved the prices from the mining craze of 2017

[tribal hedge]

Oh yeah

Turing was terrible

[ripe ivy]

People were buying 1080Tis for a grand or more

[tribal hedge]

They got really comfortable after AMD kinda laid down and let themselves get kicked around

[ripe ivy]

So they could justify the 2080Ti being that price

[tribal hedge]

Mhm

[mint eagle]

hey guys

is ryzen 5 5600x with a gtx 1070 good for 1440p gaming ?
i dont play AAA games and stuff

idk if i need to buy the RTX 3060ti or not

[lone pond]

1070 wont cut it for 1440

Well

What do you play

If you're playing rimworld you're probably fine

If you wanna play cyberpunk then idk

[tribal hedge]

Honestly considering older GPU prices, you might want to aim for a 16 series, or even a 2060/2070

[main rapids]

The 3060 TI at $400 is taking out the 2080 Super Black from EVGA (don't know price, but probably $1000 or so)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjF2w8MVjLA

[mint eagle]

i mean i just play fps games
like rainbow six siege and **maybe **call of duty cold war
and CSGO and valorant
and those stuff

[tribal hedge]

uh oh.

Cold War

[mint eagle]

yeah

[tribal hedge]

That’s gonna be a 3060ti right off the bat

It’s a very demanding game from what I’ve seen

[mint eagle]

i mean i dont care about high graphics and stuff

[tribal hedge]

Even at 1440p

[mint eagle]

oh

shoot

[junior hinge]

i would buy the 3060 ti but... the bots

[keen notch]

well a 3060ti is a good card lets just hope u get it

[junior hinge]

rip the bots

[tribal hedge]

Even then isn’t 8gb’s starting to become bottlenecking at 1440p

[main rapids]

4K video is the only real place it isn't a clear winner, but for $400, I am sure that is okay

[tribal hedge]

If this situation doesn’t get better I’ll probably bite the bullet and get a 3090

[junior hinge]

thats so much tho

[mint eagle]

cuz i still didn't buy the Ryzen 5 5600x yet
waiting for the stock to get back
i still have an i5 8400
and its sooooo bad for my use
i just want to open a lot of apps in the background without compromising any performance

[junior hinge]

lmao

[tribal hedge]

It’s gonna crack my pc budget but.

It’s a small price to pay for salvation.

I mean it matches my motherboard, so can’t complain

[lilac heart]

has anyone tried cramming a 3070 into a x370 motherboard. One of my friends managed to get one but hes not sure if he should upgrade to a b550 yet

[patent flax]

3060ti?

[tribal hedge]

Don’t ask what happened to the 3060

Apparently that’s coming in January with a rumored “3080ti”

[main rapids]

Here is LTT video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGyWz866AoM

[tribal hedge]

That has the CUDA of the 3090 and 4gb less

[mint eagle]

is the 3060ti gonna have some shortage in the stock ?
cuz i cant get it now maybe later idk

[tribal hedge]

Apparently Newegg might have less then 300 from leaks

But those are leaks so

[mint eagle]

😐

[lone pond]

Yeah around 300 is what was leaked a couple days ago

Which is a big lol

[mint eagle]

will sticking with the gtx 1070

[lone pond]

But again they could be getting more as we speak

[tribal hedge]

You gotta be fAST to get one

[lone pond]

And the leaks could be BS

But with the recent launches I believe it

[tribal hedge]

Surprisingly, 3070’s and 3090’s are the most in stock cards rn

[mint eagle]

like can i get one after a month ?

[tribal hedge]

Idk what’s going on with the 3080

[lone pond]

January February maybe

Dont hold your breath

[tribal hedge]

And probably. If the same thing that’s happening to the 3070 happens to the 3060ti, you won’t have to wait long

[junior hinge]

do you think the prices of any other cards will go up after this release?

[tribal hedge]

Nah

[mint eagle]

i think the only bottle nick in my pc is the CPU
cuz i don't play a lot of games now

[lone pond]

What do you have

[tribal hedge]

Nvidia has stated that they’re trying to stay as close to MSRP as possible

[junior hinge]

well thats a good sign

[tribal hedge]

Mhm

[junior hinge]

btw if i would try what type of card should I get?

founders edition or another brand

[lone pond]

FE looks good from the videos

Thermals

Performance

[tribal hedge]

Sound

[lone pond]

That will be the cheapest card

[junior hinge]

well yeah but whats the easiest to get

[lone pond]

Probably FE on launch

The leaks suggested of the 300 like 200 were FE

[junior hinge]

ok

on newegg right?

[lone pond]

In time FE will become scarce and youll see OC custom cards

But they cost more

And yeah im buying mine from Newegg if I can

Cause no tax in my state

[tribal hedge]

I saw the Tuf was pretty good

[junior hinge]

nice

and ok

[lone pond]

Amazon be taxing like a mf

[junior hinge]

thanks for the imput 😄

[lone pond]

Turn a $400 card into 450

[mint eagle]

i5 8400 with stock cooler
gtx 1070
16 gb ram 3000
and imagine what ?! i still don't have a SSD but its coming on the way 🙂
and a 550 watt psu

idk what else

[tribal hedge]

I’m not concerned about your CPU

Its gonna be your PSU sadly

[mint eagle]

yeah

and btw i dont play a lot now

cuz of collage is so hard on me

my stupid brain just bought a Samsung g7 1440p 240hz
but the pc is shi..

[lone pond]

3060ti is a 600w min I think

I got a 650 right now

[mint eagle]

the problem is that the shipping for the psu is very expensive to my country

[wispy meteor]

is 550w fine tho?

for 3060ti

thats what i got

[lone pond]

No

Minimum 600 from Nvidia

You could probably skate by but idk if I would risk it

Especially cause the OC models will probably require more power

[tribal hedge]

Always remember kids

Screw in with confidence

[mint eagle]

i will upgrade my gpu after 2 months with my psu
is that good ?

Ryzen 5 5600x is good for video editing right ?

cuz that is my hoppy and maybe will be a source of income

[jolly silo]

when will the ryzen 5 5600x be in stock

[mint eagle]

i will look every day
but maybe after 1 week or 2
i'm not sure

[plucky wren]

Should I go with the RX580 on gtx1650

Paired with the 10400f

[lone pond]

Here are the links if anyone is curious

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/k0vzou/newegg_3060_ti_links_na/

NA and CA only though

Looks like they got more stock

Oddly enough IF this is accurate and its a big IF then Gigabyte has the most cards day 1

So most people will either be getting FE or Gigabyte

I would personally take a FE over Gigabit

[junior hinge]

what time does it actually launch?

[lone pond]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

No clue

Just gonna keep checking newegg at midnight tonight

Ill stay up all night if I have to

I WILL get this card

[dusk oasis]

when time does it actually launch?
@junior hinge it will be like the others ???

can someone tell me please

[junior hinge]

I was asking that question

lol

idk when it comes out

[tribal hedge]

Interesting news

Reviewers now have to actually give their cards back to Nvidia so they can be sold

As part of an “instant inventory” I guess

[sick phoenix]

lol

[rose adder]

has newegg posted a url

for 3060 ti

[static rock]

#graphics-cards message

@rose adder

[lone pond]

You cant see it yet

[rose adder]

thanks my dude

one of my friends wants one

[lone pond]

But I would bookmark

For when they drop

You can check them all

[rose adder]

I got a 5900x by refreshing the direct url on launch day

[cobalt star]

I want a pc so bad but I want to start with the 3060 ti

[rose adder]

I think that's the way to go

[cobalt star]

maybe we can use bots against scalpers?

[lone pond]

Send it

If you cant beatem join them

[cobalt star]

yeah I just won't resell

[lone pond]

Me neither

Rather use it lol