#old-monitors-and-tv

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maiden wedge
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Seems good, it's either that or the MSI mag274qrf qd
It's just that the MSI is the equivalent of 60usd more expensive here. Not sure it's worth the price hike

misty gyro
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Rtings has easy to read comparisons and review summaries, with a 1-10 rating system for each use case

maiden wedge
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Yeah
Unfortunately the 27qp isn't on there

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I usually go there first

small warren
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hardware unboxed says it's an upgrade over the M27Q so I'd say it's good, but you still have the G27Q variant for cheaper

brazen ridge
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mm thx

severe dirge
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I love my G27Q IPS. I did get the G32QC and even though it's weird with the VA panel, I still really like it.

maiden wedge
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What's with about VA?

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Just curious

old arch
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Ips is generally better, and curved panel is usually VA

winter sapphire
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I have 2 monitors. The first one is 1080p60 and the Second one is 1440p 144hz. When i go to extend screen it tells me to keep resolution on 1920×1080p. Does that mean both of my monitor will display 1080p resolution.

meager wadi
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ASUS TUF Gaming 23.6" 1080P Curved Monitor (VG24VQE) - Full HD, 165Hz, 1ms, Extreme Low Motion Blur, Adaptive-Sync, FreeSync Premium, Shadow Boost, VESA Mountable, DisplayPort, HDMI https://a.co/d/18J1Xwj

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Is this a decent quality monitor? Looking for an upgrade for my family member. Not trying to spend more than $200.

meager wadi
errant edge
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g241 just better

quartz sandal
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It's also curved :/

quartz sandal
meager wadi
errant edge
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uhh

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one sec

meager wadi
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Gonna wait to see what prime day offers too lol

errant edge
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You'r

meager wadi
winged lava
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Is Freesync better than Gsync when it comes to performance?

misty gyro
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Gsync is technically better but they're not being made any more, because they were so much more expensive to make and didn't meet the idle power draw requirements for states like California and Utah.

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Modern "gsync compatible" monitors are just rebranded freesync

winged lava
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What is technically better about it

misty gyro
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They used a separate module to calculate the refresh intervals

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Freesync just uses the processor in the monitor

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Therefore the refreshes on true gsync panels were more accurate

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The problem is that separate module used 15W with the monitor in sleep mode

winged lava
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So gsync compatible and Freesync premium are the same thing

misty gyro
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Yes and no

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"Gsync compatible" can be one of several levels of Freesync

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Premium being one of them

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And one of the better ones at that

winged lava
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So Freesync premium is preferred?

misty gyro
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That would work very well yes

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It's probably one of the closest performers to true gsync there is

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But there's a lot more to a monitor than all that of course

winged lava
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Ok got it
Cause quite a few monitors use Freesync premium

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Yeah I know that too

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So like, these Gsync premium monitors, are they better than Freesync premium?

misty gyro
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Just rebranded Freesync premium

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It's like when they put "Intel" or "AMD" in the model for memory, but there's literally no difference physically

verbal spear
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whats a good ips monitor with good color accuracy 1080p

misty gyro
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Are you looking at color for media viewing or creation?

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And what budget?

severe dirge
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Do you guys leave the plastic film on the screen portion of you monitors?

misty gyro
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no

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It refracts too much light and messes with the colors

severe dirge
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Alright. I could have swore mine had a film on it, but I don't seem to be able to lift up a corner to get it off.

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Maybe I'm trippin

verbal spear
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i do watch a lot of movie and yt

misty gyro
# verbal spear nah gaming under 300$ prefer

This one is IPS, 144 Hz with good reviews when focused on gaming features, good out of the box color accuracy, and is currently $227.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08V8VCRZ5

maiden wedge
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i need help i need a monitor for my x box series s for 200 euros

small warren
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MSI Optix G241 or G242

raw ingot
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tbh xbox series s could do with anything less

quartz sandal
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What country?

sturdy abyss
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This was shaking around my monitor any one has a idea what it used for did not open the monitor fully just got it out in a corner

delicate thunder
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yo can anyone find me a 75hz 100hz or 144hz monitor atleast 200$

quartz sandal
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Msi g242 or g241 or gigabyte g24f

delicate thunder
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ight ima search it thanks

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the best size for monitors is 24inch right

misty gyro
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For 1080p up to 24" is ideal, 27" is a little too low pixel density

quartz sandal
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Although fine if you use it at a larger distance than normal as if it was a close tv

hard ridge
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hi

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nvm

glad marten
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i need a good 24" monitor that has good color accuracy and has 240hz

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any recs?

small warren
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240hz we don't normally suggest around here

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I think AW2521hf is one of the cheap ones? I think AOC also has one that's awfully cheap

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yeah AOC has a couple actually but I can't remember which one of those it was that's decent

glad marten
misty gyro
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99% of people can't tell anything higher than about 165 Hz apart

glad marten
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i just want a competitive edge ik the benefits are diminishing as you go up in hz but i feel like some more would benefit me

small warren
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viewsonic xg2431 is a decent one

glad marten
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bc ever since i built this new pc i feel a draw back on the 144 i have

small warren
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it's blurbusters approved as well

misty gyro
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Proven by science. Many people actually perform worse on higher refresh.

small warren
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sorry it was the aw2518hf

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not 21

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blurbusters recommends the xg2431 over that though

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it's also 24" so it'll have decent clarity

misty gyro
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Yeah getting better response times and reducing blur will be a much better upgrade than higher refresh

glad marten
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so is 27 inches bad

misty gyro
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Just not as high pixel density, you can lose some clarity unless you sit pretty far back

glad marten
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ahhh

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bc i was looking at this monitor

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i currently have an acer nitro vg240y

small warren
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glad marten
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oh it is ips

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just not in the listing

small warren
glad marten
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i just saw the second image

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this one only says freesync

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is g sync even worth using

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when i had a team red card i never bothered with freesync, is there any benefits?

glad marten
small warren
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blurbusters forum

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it's in the pins

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they're like the first or second group you talk to for a good monitor

small warren
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I see that one around here a fair bit, I would probably choose the viewsonic one tho even if you get 40 more fps

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different version, IPS instead

glad marten
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i looked up various reviews im prob ending up with ur viewsonic recc

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is there any ones without strobing that are recommended?

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i hear strobing can be a drawback

small warren
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honestly I'm not sure, you'd have a better chance going to the blurbusters forums and asking them directly for the specific use case if it helps

glad marten
# small warren honestly I'm not sure, you'd have a better chance going to the blurbusters forum...
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its only 90 more

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for some more hz

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and has a .5 gtg idk what the mprt is

small warren
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from what I know stepping up to 390 you're still getting a similar panel to a 360 but it's extremely diminishing returns

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are you even pushing 390 in *these game(s) consistently?

glad marten
small warren
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240 to 390hz is extremely diminishing

glad marten
small warren
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if anything upgrading to a mouse with a faster sensor probably does more in this scenario

glad marten
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im on 144 atm

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so im just trying to get a better one to give this one to my little brother tbh

misty gyro
glad marten
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im now with team green since the new build

misty gyro
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It's one of those features that's great on some monitors and not so great on others

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Nvidia works with freesync

small warren
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frametimes on 240 = ~4.1ms, 390Hz = ~2.5ms or something to that effect

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but a faster mouse sensor can do more

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you shave off like 2ms system latency

glad marten
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this is my benchmark on my main game

small warren
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i would do the viewsonic then switch to an 8k mouse if you were really trying to squeeze all the fps out

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I think a 5700X can handle it

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you break even at a cheaper mark that way

glad marten
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arent most 8k mice wired though

small warren
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yea

glad marten
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sad life

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im on a chunky mouse rn

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the g903

misty gyro
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Pretty sure there was a Logitech wireless with the hero sensor

glad marten
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i could get a gpro prob soon

small warren
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getting a better mouse will def help

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g903 hero?

glad marten
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the second one is the 390

glad marten
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its still a thick ass mouse

small warren
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input lag is not the same as frametime pacing

misty gyro
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I have to use the g502 with all the weights to keep myself from lifting the mouse too much

small warren
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honestly at like, 240hz+ with a good mouse like a hero, you start nitpicking apart what's really worth it

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you could go 390 or even 480, 8K sensor mouse and then you get the quickest response but it's extremely diminishing for price/perf

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not to mention you have to readjust to a new mouse

glad marten
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that is true

small warren
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I would really just go with like the viewsonic tbh

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especially when it's blur busters recommended

glad marten
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the first is the acer the second is the vs

small warren
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instead things like a nicer mousepad or skates gives you a much better and more accurate result

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in that sort of budget

glad marten
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ok ok youre selling me at this point

small warren
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lol

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good cos I downgraded from a 360hz after trying it kek

fading wyvern
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Can confirm there is barely any difference between something like 165hz and 240hz

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Higher you go the less you notice

small warren
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lol

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I went back down to a G7 and I still love that screen

dull copper
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What monitor would y'all recommend that's under 32", 1440p, 144-175hz, and is not curved

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Budget is $500 max, and this is excluding discounts and sales

raw ingot
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M27Q-X

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it's 175hz, is 1440p and of course 27"

quartz sandal
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M27q-x is 240hz, m27q-p is 170hz

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Both great choices

raw ingot
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wait

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240?

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wew

meager wadi
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GIGABYTE G24F 24" 165Hz 1080P Gaming Monitor, 1920 x 1080 IPS Display, 1ms (MPRT) Response Time, 90% DCI-P3, FreeSync Premium, 1x Display Port 1.2, 2x HDMI 2.0, 2x USB 3.0 https://a.co/d/14rhJvl

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Yay or nay? I know it's gigabyte but has good reviews

raw ingot
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That one is decent

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Gigabyte makes decent monitors

meager wadi
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Alright. Good to know. Appreciate it

quartz sandal
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Gigabyte probably have the best monitor selection in the current market tbh

raw ingot
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ye

visual pilot
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G24f is nice

raw ingot
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g24f and m27q-x are my favs

meager wadi
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Ordered!

stoic flint
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guys what should i choose 10bit 120hz or 144hz 8bit,i can do 144hz 10bit but i have to make the range output to limited and the color format to 4:2:2

misty gyro
surreal quarry
remote basin
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https://www.amazon.com/LG-27GP750-B-Ultragear-Compatible-Adjustable/dp/B09D914618?ref_=Oct_DLandingS_D_b9fae663_63&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

LG 27GP750-B 27” Ultragear FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS Gaming Monitor w/ 1ms Response Time & 240Hz Refresh Rate for $179.99 good deal?

fading wyvern
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It’s a solid deal, the pixel density might look a bit bad at 27” 1080p tho

remote basin
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yeah I gotcha, that's the only sad part ):

old arch
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Set it back an extra few CM/inches. Kekw

fading wyvern
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Meanwhile most gamers

quartz sandal
visual pilot
quartz sandal
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Gigabyte g27q

old arch
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Bestbuy has G5 Samsung for $250

languid nacelle
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remote basin
languid nacelle
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ok

coral path
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can anyone recommend me a 34inch monitor arm that can weigh 20+ pounds

eternal elk
misty gyro
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That does not appear to be VESA mount compatible so no to standard mounts and I doubt there's even custom ones

eternal elk
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Oof

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I’m looking to change what monitor I was gonna get, but idk what to go for, I’d like something with 240hz, 1ms or lower, 27”, and vesa mount compatible

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And for a reasonable price, tho there’s prob not gonna be one rn

misty gyro
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What would you define as a reasonable price

eternal elk
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Something that’s not like a complete ripoff

misty gyro
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Is that 240Hz?

small warren
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oh my b I thought this was a different convo

misty gyro
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lol it's fine

eternal elk
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Thx

fading wyvern
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Pretty much no1 unless it’s a tiny brand ships monitors that aren’t at least 75x75 vesa mountable

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Yeah just scrolled down to faq it’s 100x100 pepeeeek

mortal cliff
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Hey all, I'm looking into getting a portable display that's at a decent price. Preferably less than £100. Doesn't need to be touchscreen but if there is one then not an issue.
Maybe something like 15 inches.
I'm gonna be connecting a raspberry pi to it to use like a portable PC so needs to have HDMI capability.
It won't be used for gaming, just normal browsing and photo viewing etc.
I've seen there's the quote nice Asus displays I think it is but those are like £300 or so.

Second hand/used is fine if it's still in working condition etc.

Anyone know of anything good. Maybe there is a good prime day deal going that you've seen which I haven't...
Thanks

eternal elk
severe dirge
# mortal cliff Hey all, I'm looking into getting a portable display that's at a decent price. P...

I can't seem to find anything over 10 inches for a raspberry pi screen.. That being said, if you were willing to go with 10 inch, this is on a stellar deal today if you are a prime member. It's a lightning deal for 45% off with an extra $15 off coupon to make it a total of $52.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0987468N2

mortal cliff
severe dirge
mortal cliff
mortal cliff
misty gyro
misty gyro
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It claims to but multiple reviews say they didn't get it

fading wyvern
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Probably missed it, missed my adapter for my omen monitor kekw, was stashed in the styrofoam

misty gyro
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There's also a couple saying they got the mount but not the screws to attach it lol

fading wyvern
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🤷‍♂️

misty gyro
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Personally I'd go for one that's just straight compatible and doesn't need an adapter

tame notch
indigo berry
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I guess yes
It's a good IPS 240hz
For that price is perfect

fading wyvern
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No idea what the brand is, just checked overall reviews, has a average of 3.7/5 on all of its products. The specs seem alright though on the screen

tame notch
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I mean had to get something before the sale ended so

fading wyvern
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It’s probably using a main brand screen manufacturer, just it’s own controller or w.e so it should be perfectly usable

tame notch
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Well I got like a cheap 144hz van panel rn

fading wyvern
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Quick monitor space summary there’s 3 main manufacturers, Samsung, LG and Au optronics. AU optronics is usually in the lead but pretty much every gaming monitor will use one of those three panel manufacturers

tame notch
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So I guess an upgrade to a 240 hz and a ips will be hoo

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Good

indigo berry
fading wyvern
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I mean Amazon has great refund policies so if anything’s wrong I’m sure it’ll be fine

indigo berry
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It's a really good panel, IPS and 240hz
Maybe contrast is not the best...? Idk

fading wyvern
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I’m just saying it’s probably a good panel from one of those manufacturers, just the brand is unknown, at least to me I have no clue what it is

indigo berry
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Mostly for the price, too

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It is good

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And

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It is what it is

fading wyvern
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I can’t find any information on the panel kekw besides what’s listed of course, lemme know how it is

tame notch
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I will keep you posted

indigo berry
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I've finally found someone selling my same main monitor near me
LG 144hz IPS for 90€
This time it won't be stolen like the other monitor I bought
;)

warm mica
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Gigabyte G32QC or Asus VG32VQ1B??

valid delta
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I just upgraded from a Vizio 32" 1080p to an LG C1 OLED 65" and the difference is absolutely insane

plucky crag
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Can the IIYAMA G2466HSU be used on a double monitor stand?

misty gyro
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It's VESA 100x100 compatible so a standard mount will work.
I wouldn't get that personally, 24 inches curved is pointless, you sacrifice panel quality for basically nothing.

raw ingot
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^

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Curved only matters when it's ultrawide

verbal spear
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g24f good?

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planning to sell my current monitor to friend

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or should i get optix g273 instead

quartz sandal
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Yeah although with a 3080 I'd go g27q

verbal spear
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1440p feels weird to me

quartz sandal
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?

verbal spear
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feels a bit big compare to 1080p

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i have a 1440p second monitor

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which i dont like degrade it to 1080p

quartz sandal
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What

verbal spear
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well basically i dont like 1440p too much pixel and i prefer to use 1080p instead

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so rn im looking for a 1080p monitor

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and im selling my current main monitor to a friend if i see a good one

severe dirge
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bUt 1440p Is SuPeRiOr. YoU sHoUlD kEeP uSiNg It. DoWnGrAdInG wOuLd Be A wAsTe.

verbal spear
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well its an old 1440p monitor

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got it for 50$

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its only a second monitor

severe dirge
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Definitely go with 1080p if that's what you want.

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No reason to keep using 1440 if you don't like it.

verbal spear
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yeah just asking rn whats a good 1080p monitor rn

old arch
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Msi g241/g242, g24F as you said, various asus models. Mine is labeled 24.5" anyways it's the vg259qr if you care to glance at it. Probably a pin somewhere w/ a bigger list of good monitors.

quartz sandal
verbal spear
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nah 27inch is fine 1440p to me is like zoom out too much to me

severe dirge
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I get it. When I first got 1440p I had troubles seeing things because everything was so small. I've been using 1440p now for a bit and when I look at a 1080p it feels to zoomed in.

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I actually have my browser zoomed in though so I can read things

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And I sit like.. 1.5ft from my 32inch monitor lol

verbal spear
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yeah thats why i dont like 1440p lol

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i think i prefer zoomed in rather than zoom out

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how about lg monitor they any good? ive always had asus monitor so not sure abt them

old arch
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Lots of LG lcds are pretty solid, probably not too many to avoid. Remember most stuff that says .5ms instead of 1ms, it might be TN rather than ips. (Although the whole .5 or 1ms rating is sort of bogus when in reality for us it's 5+ ms, no big deal though)

verbal spear
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yep made a mistake on that with my asus monitor

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i might get a g24f if it ever goes on sale

old arch
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Lcd prices sure can vary a lot. My asus was $200ish & fine w/ that. Itching to test the $175 hp x27q that's usually $260 plus & sort of a competitor to the GB M27Q. Considering my gpu obviously the 1440p will be my secondary for now, probably.

quartz sandal
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Problem solved

severe dirge
quartz sandal
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Gonna re-upload, bit of my laptop was showing

severe dirge
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Dox yourself?

quartz sandal
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Nah just had a small bit of my teams name in work

severe dirge
# quartz sandal

I'll mess around with this when I get off work and see if I like it.

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But I am pretty used to default now.

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Also... Ew Minecraft.

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Tbf i haven't played it on PC.. so maybe its faster to build stuff.

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But I played it for probably 15 hours a day for a month straight and burned myself out.

verbal spear
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dam hating on minecraft like that

small warren
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I tried minecraft once like 10 or 11 years ago for an hour and never touched it again LUL

old arch
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I hate on Battle Royale but sort of hooked on Apex. kekleo

severe dirge
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Yeah any time I even think about it, I get sick to my stomach lol

quartz sandal
severe dirge
small warren
quartz sandal
verbal spear
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its fun with friends

small warren
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I was playing with friends

severe dirge
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I kinda wish I could grab my playstation cloud saves though

small warren
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I was still bored lol

severe dirge
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Building just takes to long.

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And I don't play survival

small warren
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In MC's defence I was addicted to Forza 4 on the 360 at the time

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I still am addicted to that specific game

severe dirge
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Kingdom of Amular The Reckoning was my addiction for a second

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Closest I could get to an mmo feel without internet.

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Except Witcher 3.

old arch
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Most Forza stuff is fantastic. F6 & F7 were pretty good. Those sort of ones soak up so much time easily.

severe dirge
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I put about 400 hours into that game.

small warren
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I played a lot of Forza, so much so that the newer ones don't spark me like I used to

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I basically only played FM7 for ForzaRC and LMES

old arch
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I played GT way before forza in my case, GT4. PogChamp

small warren
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Yeah I'm more into GT rn

mellow fossil
small warren
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GT sport and GT7 are much better

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Horizon is it's own thing

severe dirge
mellow fossil
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Speeds up building A LOT

severe dirge
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Hm ok.

mellow fossil
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Most of those massive builds you see online are built using it

severe dirge
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I'll check it out then. Because I always think of something I'd like to build, then I'm like nah forget it.

severe dirge
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Last time I played was about 8 years ago.

small warren
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I like some of the tricky stuff you can do in MC but I like to look, not create lol

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If I could describe this well it's like watching someone build a water-loop pc for me lol

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"Ooo that's neat" lol

severe dirge
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I want to build onee

small warren
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I want one next-gen but I know I'm going to hate myself for it

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Either a good waterblock card or at least an aio one

severe dirge
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Like, I'm bummed that 40 series is potentially pushed back, but at the same time it's ok, because now I can save more money to get it/13th gen/custom loop all at once.

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Plus new fans because the antec prizm x white has all turned yellow and I'm a little mad about it lol

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And they've only been in my case for about a month now.

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Maybe a little longer.

small warren
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If anything that might be a bit of a blessing for 40 series

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If that means they can improve it a bit more post RDNA 3 it's a consumer win in that sense

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Same to be said if it was the other way around but this way we have a bit more time

verbal spear
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btw another thing i got curious abt rog strix monitor

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other than the price are they good?

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i found one on my marketplace specifically xg27aq

versed brook
quartz sandal
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@verbal spear anyway in conclusion it's not 1440p you have a problem with it's just the 100% scaling instead of 125% lol

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Would just go gigabyte g27q and set scaling to 125% - that's what i do anyway

severe dirge
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I can second the g27q

plucky crag
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would the MSI Optix MAG251RX be a good monitor for competitive and a bit of singleplayer

severe dirge
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Sitting at Walmart hoping someone can respond soon. If not, ill just put it back.

errant edge
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depends, if youll use it sure

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would be fine for a side monitor

severe dirge
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The display is kinda lackluster, but it works and the design for the most part fits with my gigglebits

spring oriole
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any nice reccomendations for 1440p 144hz monitors? i feel like you guys would know best haha

errant edge
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depends on your budget though

spring oriole
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I think I have a high enough budget until its moreso diminishing returns

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if that makes sense

errant edge
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thats not a number

spring oriole
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3-4 hundred

spring oriole
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should i be worried about this exploding like their PSUs? 😂

errant edge
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no

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gigabyte makes great monitors and mobos

spring oriole
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Okay thank you

tame notch
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Well I just canceled the order

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For the 240hx monitor

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I think I can get better for lower price

raw ingot
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which one was it?

mighty tide
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I have a monitor that is 1080p, and for all purposes it seems to be however there's a recurring issue with games that the recordings(if played on seperate devices) look amazing however on my monitor it can be quite grainy and just look way worse than recordings do

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Monitor is AOC C24G1

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Is there like monitor drivers??

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And 60 FPS on mobile looks 1000x smoother than my pc, it's freesync compatible and I have amd but I didn't really like turn it on

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Is it automatic or do I need to do that manually?

fading wyvern
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That's not a monitor issue, sounds like a recording issue/compression issue. Videos can get grainy easily especially in fast paced games or games with lots of foliage.

mighty tide
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For example if I watch the video on my phone or laptop at 1080p it looks great and on my monitor it looks grainy

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Not the video just the normal gameplay

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It's only on a few games but it's very noticeable

fading wyvern
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That sounds super weird. does it have like a sharpness setting? What games if you dont mind?

surreal quarry
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Could be monitor settings

mighty tide
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I just watched a video of dying light 2 I recorded on it to show how messed up it looked but watching it on my phone it looked 10000x better

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And phone is way smoother even though it's supposedly only 60 fps when pc should be way more

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Not sure if freesync is just...not good

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Cause turning on vsync looks smoother

fading wyvern
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I mean it couulddd be tearing on the monitor or just pixels getting stuck

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But it sounds more like it could be a setting, its weird that its not happening in more games. Vermintide tends to be a bit more of a grainy game from what i remember

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vsync/freesync if its helping take advantage of that.

mighty tide
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Dying light 2 and vermintide are the worst, borderline unplayable how bad the grain is even with the best settings for it

fading wyvern
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The frame rate though is totally fine/playable?

mighty tide
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Yeah it gets at least 100 FPS always

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It doesn't look super smooth and I can't explain why but it's not bad

fading wyvern
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Any chance you have another cable laying around to plug into the monitor? I'm pretty stumped

mighty tide
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Power cable or display port?

fading wyvern
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dp/hdmi

mighty tide
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I'm getting one today to see lol

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Also its an American monitor that's on UK voltage..

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That could maybe be a problem??

fading wyvern
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Just removing possibilities, could be a bad connection... i dont think it would be. lol

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What gpu do you have?

mighty tide
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5700 XT

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A beefy version as well so

fading wyvern
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Could always try to DDU see if that fixes anything

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Seems like people with similar monitor issues with the card have just fixed them by switching to DP. But it seems like youre already using DP... steveconfused

mighty tide
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Tbf it was a random DP cable I found...

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Mightve been old or broken or somethin

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I'm heading to best buy soon so I'll try and find a fancy one ig??

fading wyvern
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maybe... but every other game youve been playing seems fine, and its not like its sending more or less data through

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Do you have a tv that you can yank a hdmi out of quick for giggles?

mighty tide
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Lemme run and do that

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Ah also my old DP was 1.0 so...

fading wyvern
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Any luck?

mighty tide
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Thanks a ton

tame notch
fading wyvern
indigo berry
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kekw it's a bot

fading wyvern
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Lol yeah just pog

indigo berry
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:pog;

fading wyvern
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It’s still there pepehmmm

raw ingot
#

ye

sick plume
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one only asks

indigo berry
maiden wedge
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should i get the m27Q P or LG 27GP850-B ? i can get them for the same price where I live. I play FPS and watch movies/shows

quartz sandal
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M27q-p

maiden wedge
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why?

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ive heard gigabyte has bad quality control and the LG performs better

misty gyro
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Gigabyte makes good monitors, you might be thinking of PSUs

maiden wedge
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i just heard they get a lot of backlight bleed and dead pixels

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and in the m27q p review on hardware unboxed the gp850 seems to score better in benchmarks?

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so for the same price..

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and for watching movies i assume they're basically on the same level?

maiden wedge
#

actually turns out the m27q P is slightly more expensive

visual pilot
# maiden wedge and in the m27q p review on hardware unboxed the gp850 seems to score better in ...

He talks about it, it's mainly because of the overdrive on balanced mode being the best mode, but balanced mode inverse ghosting becoming more noticable below 120hz and therefore for the tests at other refresh rates, he used picture mode, but in the first max refresh rate test, you can see the m27q-p has a better response time than gp850, when balanced mode was used.

And also, later in the vid, M27q-p has better color and contrast.

maiden wedge
visual pilot
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Adaptive sync

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G-sync and freesync

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Any variable refresh rate tech can vary your refresh rate to match your fps to eliminate vertical tearing

maiden wedge
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so in games where my fps is lower like Squad im going to have to deal with this "ghosting" or change to picture mode?

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or turn off gsync?

visual pilot
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Perhaps

maiden wedge
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sounds like a lot of hassle, and i don't have this problem with the gp850?

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bc often my fps is going up and down a lot depending on the map I play

misty gyro
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Adaptive sync tech waits to refresh the screen until the GPU sends a frame so it can appear smoother with less tearing

maiden wedge
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is there a mode i can play on where the response time is still decent and I don't have to deal with ghosting or whatever and worry about what my fps is at all the time?

misty gyro
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Adaptive sync doesn't affect response time

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Ghosting is more up to the monitor itself

maiden wedge
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but he said that adaptive sync will change my refresh rate to match my fps. so if i have low fps like 80 or smth im going to have ghosting unless im constantly changing between picture and balance mode

misty gyro
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Might have gotten mixed up with vsync which is totally different

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But yes adaptive sync does effectively change the refresh rate, but if you're only doing 80 fps on a 160 fps screen it only needs to do half the refreshes anyway

maiden wedge
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if i just leave it on picture mode to avoid ghosting the response time still isnt that bad maybe? in the benchmark looks like its on the same level as the m27q which is still pretty decent and i guess i have better colors in the mean time?

misty gyro
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Now if it's a more extreme example like 110 fps on a 170 Hz monitor, then you'll get screen tearing as it tries to display only half finished frames

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As far as picture mode every monitor is different and there's no way to generalize

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Most of the cheaper ones require you to trade response time for accuracy though

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"Cheaper" being relative, under $400 for 1440p

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But of course there's some more expensive that are just crap 🤣

maiden wedge
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so you're suggesting i just leave adaptive sync/gsync/whatever off bc i shouldnt get too bad tearing at 70/80 fps on the m27q p?

misty gyro
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It'll still tear but not as bad since that's about half the refresh rate. You'd only get half screen tears instead of tears across more parts of the screen.

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As long as the monitor itself implements adaptive sync well there's almost no reason not to use it.

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But again that varies wildly. Some monitors it's completely unusable on below 120 fps. So deep reviews like rtings that tests multiple ranges for adaptive sync are nice.

maiden wedge
misty gyro
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That's one of those things that varies by monitor

maiden wedge
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well you guys were telling me to buy the m27p q over the LG one

misty gyro
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I didn't say one way or the other personally, I didn't look for comparison data to make a recommendation

maiden wedge
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ok well i guess it was one person who said get the m27q-p without explaining why

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and i cant make up my mind at all lol

misty gyro
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Instead of looking at the monitor as a whole, decide more about what features and test results matter to you most. There will be some tradeoffs in that price bracket, you won't find a monitor that's best at everything.

maiden wedge
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is this contrast/color stuff that important? i watch movies and twitch and stuff on my computer but I'm on an 24g2u and I don't think thats the best in those terms either. Doesn't seem to bother me. Its generally always going to be a weakness with IPS monitors right? Meanwhile I dont want to deal with ghosting or worry that my response time sucks because I have to change to picture mode when I play at lower fps. (unless it really isnt that bad?)

misty gyro
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Personally, as a gamer, contrast is nice for dark scenes and color is pretty inconsequential.

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Color can usually be tuned to be pretty accurate in software/osd settings as well, even if it's not great out of the box.

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You don't need the full DCI-P3 color space to enjoy games and movies

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That's mostly for making content

maiden wedge
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ok so color is not that important then. is the better contrast alone enough to justify choosing the m27qp over the gp850?

misty gyro
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I like dungeon crawler games with lots of dark scenes so personally if the contrast is significantly better that could be a selling point for me.

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Games like Skyrim, tomb raider, hollow knight, where dark scenes are common

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If you're more of a fps gamer it might not matter as much

maiden wedge
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its a mixed bag of games for me. Ready or Not has some spooky dark areas etc. so better contrast makes it easier to see in the dark? less muddy or smth?

misty gyro
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It makes the dark stand out better against sources of light

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So the dark areas become less gray

maiden wedge
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i really wish the m27q-p had an rtings article

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well i posted the same question on reddit so I guess I'll make a decision after that. The contrast thing kinda bugs me so I'm leaning m27qp and hoping this ghosting thing isnt too noticeable/annoying

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or i can just leave it on picture mode and the response time is still decent enough (since its on the same level as the m27q apparently). i mean lets be honest im not competitively playing csgo or anything

misty gyro
#

Yeah if you were doing CSGO then you'd want 1080p anyway

maiden wedge
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true

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who knows maybe ill forget about all of that when i see what 1440p looks like for the first time anyway lol DroolingEgg

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neither are bad monitors anyway

misty gyro
#

I upgraded from a cheap 1080p 75hz to a G27QC (which is not considered great because of the VA panel and viewing angles) and it's still a night and day difference in detail and response.

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It was on sale for $250 at my local best buy, hard to pass that up.

maiden wedge
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yeah its easy to get really deep in the weeds about little differences in performance for me oh well

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thanks for the help

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or at least kinda hashing it out lol pepeegg

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also i hope im not too unlucky with the QA lottery if i get the gigabyte. have seen lots of ppl complaining about backlight bleed and dead pixels from the m27q and I had 1 GPU from them die on me

old arch
#

Speaking of "lottery", I wonder which panel I got. Althiugh, it is the 2021 model that should be the better of 2 panels.

severe dirge
verbal spear
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ViewSonic XG2405 what do u think about this monitor?

maiden wedge
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damn it no one replied to my reddit post peepoSadSip

maiden wedge
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someone suggested i just forgo the m27q-p and gp850 and go for the m27q X even tho its more expensive

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rtings doesnt show it has any better contrast than the other 2 and i dont really need 240hz so whats the point

errant edge
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Unless prices changed

old arch
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Indeed. I suggest most people not bother w/ 240hz anyways, unless the price premium was small.

maiden wedge
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yeah its a pretty stiff price hike in my country currently. like 50% more

maiden wedge
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i just can't decide if i should go for the m27qp and deal with the ghosting but better contrast/colors, or do the LG

old arch
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The ghosting is probably overhyped, but I lean towards LG. Partly for perhaps better service.

quartz sandal
#

Nzxt made a monitor....

severe dirge
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I'm a g27q shill

fading wyvern
errant edge
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You got a link?

quartz sandal
#

Their monitor arm prices kill me

brave pivot
indigo berry
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How does it look like to game 1080p on a 1440p monitor?

severe dirge
old arch
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Could try windowed mode 1080p unstretched, then it should look decent. I haven't yet gamed on the x27q

indigo berry
# quartz sandal Horrible

Ah
I was thinking in buying a 1440p 144 but I noticed warzone has a low and unstable frame rate at 1440p max. (Down to 60fps and not more than 120)
I'll probably go for a cheaper used 1080p

quartz sandal
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Cod looks great on minimum everything

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Would just play 1440p low/medium

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Also cod has dlss

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My 3060 ti gets 180-200fps all low with dlss performance and I can't tell the difference between that and native

indigo berry
#

NoH
I don't like low graphics

indigo berry
quartz sandal
#

I'll take a screenshot later on

indigo berry
#

?

quartz sandal
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Sure

quartz sandal
indigo berry
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Ok thanks love_it

maiden wedge
#

ordered the LG 27GP850-B Pog

indigo berry
#

Reminder as you asked

quartz sandal
old arch
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Hard to tell on phone, but 1440p Low looks pretty decent. Guess I'll do some gaming in the x27q. :Pog-1:

quartz sandal
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they look identical to me

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1440ps that is

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although make sure you view zoomed in

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and the 1080p one doesnt look as bad as it did in game

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for some reason

indigo berry
#

Thanks a lot
I don't see much difference between 2nd and 3rd image
Btw FPS may be different in warzone sice you basically have a big area to render around you

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I'll see how much the used 1440p 144 monitor will cost me

quartz sandal
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might get more but i have capped at 200

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so dont really look at the fps

indigo berry
#

What type of dlss are you using?

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Isn't there like quality and performance/balanced?

quartz sandal
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1st 1440p low DLSS perf, 2nd 1440p ultra dlss perf, 3rd 1080p ultra no dlss

sage trail
quartz sandal
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they wanted to know what it looked like on a 1440p monitor

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so uh 1440p screenshot

sage trail
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is it tho

quartz sandal
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should be?

sage trail
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prolly why it looks fine haha

indigo berry
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It's not about the resolution but mostly about in game details

sage trail
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yeah but 1080p on 1440p look blurry and gross

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would rather just not play the game at all at that point

indigo berry
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https://youtu.be/IpqjAStfNWU
@quartz sandal in this video it shows 1080p and 1440p with different dlss types

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Also it's using a 3060 which is less powerful than a 2080, I may get a nice FPS even with quality dlss 1440p

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Now I just need to see if I can negotiate the price for the 1440p monitor

quartz sandal
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Dlss also isn't as good on 20 series iirc

indigo berry
#

POG I RANKED UP

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:POG;

quartz sandal
indigo berry
#

Since dlss is not that good

quartz sandal
#

1440p should be perfectly fine tbh

sage trail
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you tryin to hit 240 fps or something?

quartz sandal
#

144 id say

sage trail
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1440p 144hz on cod aint that hard, i would say its mostly cpu bound

quartz sandal
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Probably

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Considering i got basically same fps on 1440p ultra and low dlss perf

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But dlss does bring up my fps from about 160-170 to 180-200

sage trail
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settings be damned I get 120-140 on my 10920x always

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gpu just renders whatever i tell it to

sage trail
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1440p for sure

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going with 1080p aint gonna improve framerate lol

errant edge
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with 3600 and 3060 ti in cold war and warzone, at 1080p, im still running into gpu limit first

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unless theyve better optimized them in the last few months

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been a few since i played

sage trail
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mw2019 always been pretty cpu bound

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cw is less, so ig if all you are concered about is cw, then it doesnt matter

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cw sucks tho

indigo berry
#

https://youtu.be/ep_MibV9G5Q
This guy gets 110-120 without dlss Ultra setting and also Ray tracing
He's using a 9700k, I guess 3600x will be almost the same...?

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errant edge
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1440p is probably going to be my upgrade after rpl

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itd come first, if i werent waiting on new cpu and mobo to rebuild

indigo berry
#

Not sure if I should buy a 80€ 1080p 144 (basically new) or a 140€ 2k 144....

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There are many games that will be affected by the higher resolution....

quartz sandal
indigo berry
#

Ram freq? (And latency)

quartz sandal
indigo berry
indigo berry
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I'll try my best, that's the cheapest 1440p, all the other ones are 165+€

quartz sandal
indigo berry
quartz sandal
indigo berry
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The one that's 140€ is IPS

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I really hate TN

quartz sandal
#

Oh 2nd hand?

indigo berry
# quartz sandal

Good
I'd like to OC my ram too but the oc guide is so long and kinda complicated

indigo berry
#

Corsair vengeance rgb pro

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3200

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I saw many people pushing them to 3600/3700 cl16

quartz sandal
#

What version number?

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Highly doubt stable

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Probably 3600c18

indigo berry
#

One guy pushed it to 3800cl16

quartz sandal
#

@indigo berry

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Look at the sticks

indigo berry
#

Yeah but it's behind

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I'll take them apart tomorrow when I test the 1070 backplate

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Do you think I can get 3600c16?/c17? Will that help performance or is it almost unnoticeable?

quartz sandal
#

3600c18 most likely

indigo berry
#

Btw why is 3600c18 better than 3200c16?
I'd like you to explain how ram actually works
Cl is the latency, (in cycles, how much it takes for the data to be give to the CPU after it is requested) and higher speed? More bandwidth?
I know to get bandwidth you multiply by 8 (bytes) and it gives you MB/s
Does ram "offer" more data in those 18 cycles? 18*8= 144MB but is less responsive...?
Am I getting something wrong? (Probably)
Btw it's just for personal knowledge

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Like:
3200c16 → 128MB given by those 16 cycles but given more frequently...?
3600c18 → 144MB for 18 cycles but takes more time
?

misty gyro
#

The frequency determines the total bandwidth available so with all else being equal 3600 MT/s is faster than 3200 MT/s by about 12%.
In reality not all that bandwidth is utilized all the time so the impact is less noticeable.

#

This is decent enough for some basics
https://youtu.be/o59V3_4NvPM

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(they claim there's multiple parts but they never got around to part 2)

indigo berry
misty gyro
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Cas latency has nothing to do with how many/how often the cycles are also

quartz sandal
#

Also the primary timings aren't even the most important

misty gyro
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3600 MT/s memory runs at 1800 MHz, 1800 clock cycles per second. Cas is a measure of how often a specific type of command can be issued. A cas of 18 means 100 cas commands can be issued per second.

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I know I'm probably using terms wrong but that's the general idea

old arch
small warren
somber forum
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Anyone know a 144hz, 27 inch, 1080p monitor under $200

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my boi needs one

old arch
#

Msi G272 perhaps, or similar. Idk all the models.

somber forum
#

aight

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my friend is getting his first computer

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so happy for him 🥲

sudden quest
#

Yo

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Can someone help me diagnose my tv

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So I was playing a racing game and the force feedback from my wheel made the already loose hdmi connection fail, so I plug it back in, it doesnt work, it's only showing hdmi2 in the upper left corner

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I hit it with my hand and it bugs out for a second and wont display now

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The lamp still works and I have it open atm

maiden wedge
#

If he's ok with 24 (he should be if he really insists on 1080p) i highly recommend the aoc 24g2

paper field
#

Anyone have any recommendations for a budget monitor that can rotate fully vertical/skinny just used for Discord/Slack chat feed?

quartz sandal
edgy hornet
#

Acer ED270R Sbiipx 27" Curved Full HD

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Is that a good monitor?

verbal spear
#

is pixio px277 1440p 165 hz good? or nah?

raw ingot
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just get m27q-x instead

raw ingot
#

if so it's fine, response times aren't good tho

quartz sandal
raw ingot
#

ah

indigo berry
#

What's the difference between these two?:
LG 24GN600 and LG 24GN53A

edgy hornet
#

Acer ED270R Sbiipx 27" Curved Full HD

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It was for 100. Any other better deals out there?

indigo berry
# quartz sandal I'd go 1440

I'll buy the 1440p tomorrow, I was tempted for the 1080p since total was ~80 because of shipping discount but as soon as I was ready to send the request the person told me he already sold the monitor... Bruh
I'll go for the 1440p ofc because it also has the discount and I was able to negotiate the price to 120€ (+.5€+4.8€) ~130€ total
:)

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Btw it's an itek taurus 1440p IPS 144hz

#

There were many other LG 1080p monitors, too but there are so many models I don't even understand the difference and I'm not sure if they're good or not

maiden wedge
#

just got my 27GL850
looks great. thanks for the help all

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sorry i meant GP850 lol

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frantically checks box just in case

nimble patrol
#

Is the difference between ips and va panels really noticeable in games?

errant edge
#

as far as i understand

misty gyro
#

Each has their strengths and weaknesses in general but a good monitor can cover weaknesses well

errant edge
#

isnt there actually a panel above ips?

#

or is that just fast ips

misty gyro
#

OLED?

errant edge
#

i dont know monitors well

misty gyro
#

Or nano IPS?

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The new fast IPS thing is yet to be tested in depth

errant edge
#

ah

misty gyro
#

Modern OLEDs are fantastic with little burn in risk, but they're super expensive. They do have the best contrast, brightness, response time... Almost everything

nimble patrol
wooden matrix
#

this feels like a bad idea

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but ehh

#

was my idea to make portable computer in a pelican case

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probably not how it works, but if it could use the same power supply as the rest of the computer

#

probably will do without to make the project easier, or just leave the top unfinished and come back to it when I do have the knowledge

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(I really dont want to tear apart an existing monitor only to shove it into the lid of this thing)