#td2-general-chat
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Stretch goals whats the point?
Farm exclusive named items without goblin, farm exclusive exotics and get a new outfit and a skin for a exotic gun (looks like st elmo is the chosen one)
And you can farm Lexington and Turmoil when the stretch event is up
Ok what talents do these weapons have, New outfit sounds nice
And lex has 30% increased chance to drop too
Lexington you can use any talent on it normal ones not perfect
Lexi is the gold versión of st elmo (without shock ammo ofc) u can use any talent on it
Imagine if Lexington could have used any talent in the game but perfect version
Turmoil is a kneepads with a talent, u deal 50% less dmg to a single target while a second target in a range of 25m took the other 50% of the dmg
🙂
So is like shoot 2 guys at the same time
Keep in mind that Lexington doesn’t work with the new tinkerer mask
Just hit level 40 what do I go for now
Make a nice build for endgame content
Loot guns and gears, rinse and repeat
Do countdown make a striker build
Play on challenging in matchmaking save up you countdown credits for exotic caches
I've been solo challenging the climax mission on solo(I know it will be fixed soon...hopefully, and I already have the Tinkerer mask), but oh boy Keiko is so frustrating. She gives no fk about status effects, gives no fk about suppressing, shoots perfect shots without even exposing her arms, and gets soft lock by using specific guns(pestilence, bluescreen, etc). It's so legendary
Bet
You Can ask in build chat for a striker build setup
Me and some other good fellas restarted the boss fight 3 times
Yeah I had that yesterday
Ye it’s pain
Is coyote good? I got it off a lucky cache
Yes
pretty good
Very very good for striker build
10/10 for red builds
That’s very good news then
@keen creek check build chat I’ll send you my build
- hello family I miss you all agents
Uhh, hi there?
Is the PTS live, hello agents?
it should be
yea one shots you out of cover, runs while foamed etc. it's just stupid at this point
still getting mike-01 tho :c
It's now up
:D time to piss off every faction
Also, Black Tusk needs the Officer archetype.
Vicious, bloodthirsty, and hungers for glory.
The devs even made a joke with the fire alarm 
im getting mikes and alphas man 😔
me too
I don't recommend dating anyone who calls themself an "alpha", but hey it's your life.
the cleaners retaliated against them :3
i cant tell if youre trying to be funny or if you really think i mean it that way 💀
PTS continues to error. Is it actually up or no?
@outer flume Mike is fine though.
It's a div 2 error joke
should be but i cant get in
clearly i havent played this game long enough 😭
Mom said it's their time to play now.
Probably a lot of players are trying it so.
Steam?
yeah
bro stop 😭
Same here. Might be something with steam. I'm doing a restart rn
i mean it wouldnt make sense but its ubi i wouldnt be surprised if it did
i did that like twice now..
I wasn't aware that Steam gave access to the PTS now.
I will not 
thats why i prefer isac..
its official folks, ubi-connect thinks I don't own div2.
I really have never played it.
Yeah they recently added it to steam. Getting nothing but Mike-01 errors rn
||It doesn't even talk||
I KNEW IT
whoopsie sry for the ping wasn't intentional
it doesnt even say its launchable on ubisoft lol
Yeah no can't even access PTS. I'm US East
lol its all good, most of the time it's fine, it's just when im not super active and people do it lots, i miss when its a spam emergency.
people keep trying that "4 image crypto" thing, its so weird that's the solution the bots came up with.
I'm in, pts is up
Diamond is just a LLM guidance system.
what platform tho. steam, ubi?
TIME TO PISS OFF EVERY FACTION :DDDD
Ubi
so why is it the ubi players get access but steam has no access 😐
Ubi fanatics privileges lol
Ubi/steam/PC gamepass/epic? all launch through ubi, it's the controlling version of the game.
ngl might download PTS on steam
dont because it doesnt work
bruh 💀
New season called || the pact ||
2 or 3 PTSs now?
guess im REINSTALLING via ubisoft 🤦♀️ what a damn waste of my time installing this yesterday for it to not even work.
||This better means Keener is out of his naughty prison and is involved||
time to wait half an hour for this to download 🤡
Please don't say that again. I need my eyes.
I'll be careful
on an unrelated note: Hopkins can still totally play a live-action Keener, I saw him in something made in 2025.
oh wow, PTS isnt even listed on my ubisoft. so do i just not have access to it?
They also took out the manhunt tab along with the collectables tab so no information whatsoever on the story next season
this is a full on joke
Logout and in, it will show up
Prolly on pts2
that doesnt exist
But just by the name we can know or imagine the way we r taking
They said there's only one pts
steam or ubisoft? im on steam. ive quit ubisoft twice and ive restarted my whole PC, nothing
My eyes are gone 💀
Its Ubisoft only, and only if you own Div on that platform.
Okay wtf, normally there r 2😭😭
i own div on ubisoft as well. oddly never had access to the PTS via that way since i bought a div 2 key online at the time key sellers were selling it for a good price. later bought it for steam due to owning a steam deck
#unofficial-troubleshooting message see the images here? Ignore the message about it needing a key, that's what it should look like
yeah nah im not seeing PTS via ubisoft. only steam
you know the fix for this.
mine doesnt show up for ubisoft. only steam
New brandset seems to have new transmogs nah it's reused from another set lol
Anyone managed to get Retaliation to start?
giving it a reinstall bc I assumed I had it on ubisoft. time to wait a million years and hope it works bc if not i just wasted so much time reinstalling the same PTS twice only to not do anything
||exactly 🥲 ||
Yes, did a CP and the hyena circle increased
april just confirmed its thru ubisoft connect only #1405495083477762219 message
then why do we even have the option to install it
thats quite literally what i said directly to april
Ubisoft 🤦♀️
almost 1h after it opened and still nothing 🥀
steam or ubisoft?
so we own game that makes us launch through their platform and cant even play the pts makes no sense at all
steam
@fallow sentinel might be a good idea to put out a PSA to anybody trying to load up the PTS thru steam, April confirmed its Ubisoft Connect only. and if people dont have access to that, they don't have access to the PTS at all. Me and several others are hit with this conflicting issue, barring us from accessing the PTS despite the fact we paid for the game on different platforms and should have access
steam out here getn rket lol
console doesnt even get the option LMAO
I know lol I like steam as well but proprietary launchers are always better when it comes to updates, PTS etc
anything blizzard/activision works better on the blizzard launcher
better than having the option but cant
whats ultra clownish is that its on steam and it shows up for available. but what the devs didnt do was make the PTS actually function thru steam
we can even launch it just doesnt let us play gives us a error code
and thats exactly why I made my above statement, steam is an after thought
negl id rather not be offered at all. thats like offering somebody a new car but the catch is that they have to pay for it
Up until a few seasons ago it simply wasn't available on Steam at all - they finally added it, and now it's broken again
Did it work last time?
I believe so
they can see we own the game atleast let just see we can install it on ubisoft and inturn play the pts
What if they are omega? 
Any ideas if Potomac boss getting a fix? Soon™?
it's getting fixed, devs already said on stream they are working on it
Just keep retrying the boss… it’s bound to work
First time, had to replay the boss 3 times to get it. Last night I helped my friend and it bugged first try… but it worked after we wiped
Anyone else getting Foxtrot- 01 error code
bro you have the pts role
you can remove the role if you are not interested
:facepalm:
sorry guys im a moron
Why is the Kelso mission so f***ing bad 😐
After a couple bugged play through. What finally got me and my crew through it was, don’t shoot at boss, first killed all NPC’s then shoot boss. Doing it that way finally let us finish the mission. Don’t know if it that or just pure luck. lol
You can literally mute entire servers or seperate channels....
I do wish theyd expand on the open world and not just leave it as is
I like the general idea of what they going with the new control points. Just that there's a lot more they can do with it.
I’ve missed yesterday stream. Is there a blog post or details about the announcement?
PTS patch notes have most of the info
Thanks, will check/try to find it
what wasnt covered on the patchnotes is that there more info coming at gamescom
Hey folks - anywhere know where the snitch is today?
it's random
The snitch has a chance to spawn when you get near one of his spots, if he doesn't you can either check other spots or log off and on again to check the same spot
Some times, I feel those Division 3 begging posts are annoying
Interesting; did not know that
i just changed my roles
the uhhh 14 second cooldown mods it dont make sense
i mean games in development and been confirmed to be so no need to beg just wait
One message removed from a suspended account.
One message removed from a suspended account.
It's actually a 15 second cooldown.
and it varies based on the activity of the channel.
Yeah, one of the ones you buy from the white house merchant
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Scroll down more, there's a few different caches and some of them contain so much you can't see in the preview
Anyone know some good solo master builds? I got a pretty good Prot from elites setup
Strikers, HH, OD there are lots
Hi everyone, is it still possible to get rowan coat?
are you talking about a cosmedic?
nope
Can't get either version of the outfit anymore. No, we do not know when or if it's ever coming back
was there no duck hunt in the new mastery? or am i just blind
No ducks
Hey guys, longshot here, but are there any other women playing this game 😅 , I feel like I'm the only one whenever I matchmake or join LFG discord groups
L
So uh... the aces outfit seems to be in fact NOT available for textiles or they were very serious about the limited time
If you already have it, it won't show, and/or are you checking in the live game or the PTS?
It should be there until the 2nd of September.
I've done master manhunt a few times, never failed on the boss.. is wipe on boss room a checkpoint like everything else or a total wipe?
its a checkpoint
boss room is a checkpoint
cool
5700 for the set 🥲
anyone wanna help me on Kelsos manhunt? Really want the birdie bag
Alec “Prospero” Thorpe bounty is not appearing for me in Fed Triangle bounty list/map. Finished scout objectives 1 and 2, but then no bounty. Anyone else?
What bounties DO appear in that area for you? IIRC the name for that one isn't 'Alec Thorpe' but it does have a different icon from regular bounties.
it'll be Hard difficulty
Not in game at the moment, but I will check later. I thought I would be looking for the one on the list with yellow marker and text, but didn’t see such
I don't think it's yellow this time
Lol, “pursue Thorpe (but not really Thorpe)”
hey guys. does anyone have problems with low fps? i launch the game today and max 20 fps on any settings. yesterday was fine
Nope.
Sounds like a system throttle issue
hay so my eye sight is a wee bit bad 'nd thought the 'ace's sunglass' were a pair of Pince-nez type glasses - they are not, but theres some cool looking ones on wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pince-nez (hope its ok to post links? ) anyways as you were just and idea like, sorry for interrupting the flow 🫡
Would be better in #off-topic-discussions
Not overly.
I'm not even sure what the purpose of the post is, from what I can tell it's "these sunglasses look like ones IRL".
I checked cache on steam and it went away. Although it didn't download anything after that
Doesn't always need to, if cshaders get corrupted it can cause havok, sometimes clearing the cache helps
Can't just be me that wished we had to fight actual Crocodiles in the zoo lmao
Some big scarred mf called Colin
The name of the bounty isnt alec but the targets name will be. Iirc when i did it, it was a hard black tusk bounty
No ducks for this climax mission? 🧐
nobody's found any easter eggs yet AFAIK
Maybe that's the Easter egg, that there isn't any
spoiler: The easter egg is the boss bug, youre welcome
The easter eggs are the holograms. You just need to go pick them up. Surely nothing could go wrong... surely :3
Mum's mad at me - I ate them all.
Sad I don’t see AlphaBridge gearset in PTS notes 😔
Whats alphabridge meant to be?
Old gear set from div1, what the thinkerer is based on
I just don't see how D3-FNC can work in Division 2 unless they rework the enemy AI, which would take a lot of dev time.
Ah... my guess is the reason its not in the PTS patchnotes is because they never intended for it to be in the PTS patchnotes
well threat is an stat that is in game since some gear pieces now have them, having that set again doesnt seem complicated
i dont mind having one season of many being a throwback to div1
but i dont want everything to be div1
I just need a ninjabike bag, how do I get it. Google is saying I have to obtain the ninjabike bag in order for it to drop. So I need to have it already in order to get one? I'm getting sick and tired of going on all these wild goose chases for information. Div 1 was pretty clear on what you needed to do for most things but div 2 I swear I've spent more time googling how to do stuff and what things are than actually playing the game. It's so confusing for newer players
My advice is dont
you just try to farm backpacks and hope you get one
Unless youre going to collections its not worth it
Okay, guess I'll just keep farming then
so go to countdown/summit open world place that has backpack and do that
Also i wish we had something to show off exotics we've collected like the weapon holders. Give us mannequins or smn
Target backpacks in countdown, run challenging or heroic and then use creds to buy the exotic caches
would need a lot of mannequins because sometimes we have like 7 gloves and only 2 holsters
not that exactly proportion but just saying in general
I still think itd be a cool feature
Also i wish we had uncapped loadout slots ;-;
Not a single player ever has needed the NBB. It's a noob trap and is only peddled by youtubers who actually haven't got a clue how to play the game.
Loadout mannequins in the clan quarters would be cool
Displaying each clan members favoured loadout
I'm currently running 4 piece hotshot, chainkiller, habsburg, my damage output with the set bonuses for habsburg and W&H would be worth sacrificing the lackluster hotshot backpack talent.
What would you suggest I do instead
Nope.
Vigilance backpack
Dont use hotshot backpack then 
you never run hotshot backpack lol, vigilance is the best one there
and before you ask, yes vigilance beats any brand you can possibly try to squeeze in with ninjabike
You're actively nerfing ANY build with Ninjabike.
It's a literal noob trap. If you ask ChatGPT to tell you the definition of noob trap in pictures, NBB will be what you get shown.
look on my profile banner
The sniper setup document from the spreadsheet needs fixing
It shows 2 1886 build screenshots but its meant to be 1 hotshot and 1 1886
There's a spreadsheet? I've been raw dogging it lol
#td2-build-advice Consult the gods.
Hotshot:
● 3p Hotshot
● Chainkiller
● Airaldi Backpack with vigilance
● Foxes Knees or 4th piece of hotshot
Everything is mathematically worked out to perfection, any changes are done on the fly.
But even without the spreadsheet help. NBB is dogshite
(Unfortunately the sheet does mention nbb for a niche 1886 buold but just go full highend)
I might try my hotshot build with 3pc hotshot and foxes
Which does more tho? 4pc hotshot or 3pc?
depends on the weapon, with mantis for example (and possibly the new mmr in pts) i'd err towards 3p
Determined white death 🤔 tbh the 4pc reload part is nice
4p for most others is still best for damage but then the problem is maintaining 4p uptime
I HATE enemies with helmets 🥲 i wish if that beyond x amount of damage it just shot straight through the helmet
i wrote an analysis for 3p vs 4p here: #td2-build-advice message
How can I get the provacator chest piece if I don’t have it is it a loot pool on countdown?
do theo manhunt at space admin hq
Is there any secrets this time with the new manhunt mission?
Ok
is pts open?
lit cant get on been trying for 3 hours base game works but pts nope
Steam?
it doesn't work on steam this round
thats hella dumb
Word, for sure my fellow kids.
PTS never used to be available on Steam at all, just on ubi-connect.
Don't worry about it too much, it's only 1 phase, and you get to play the content when it launches all the same, since nothing carries over between PTS and live.
kinda wanted something new to do completed man hunt and got the new mask and nothin really left oh well guess ill play when the new season is out
Stretch Goals start next week, they're very much worth farming.
3x xp event rn, stretch goals soon. Worth playing rn if you have the time
Also golden bullet event
i did the 10 event levels day one lol😅
well, its 3x xp so i sure hope so 
I dont participate in golden bullets bc i cant be bothered 🥲
There's never been a better GE to farm things with. GB is what every other GE wants to be.
It is genuinely broken strong, to the point where MSV deliberately put it at the end of a Season.
Isnt the bonuses silly stronk with backfire?
with anything
yeah, It can make essentially any build OP.
ill just be running around with my noob tube just spamming
i guess you cant be bothered to get a bunch of shd and exo components 
The ye ole russian badger "warning" shots
its too bad the oxi got patched for gb
I mean im on my laptop for the next few (10) months so gaming is a little bit of a struggle rn. My laptop CAN run the game but im used to playing on my desktop so itll be a shift
Overdogs is immediately going to be my favorite exotic
Sounds like free 30% damage if you kill grunts first then start movijg up the “chain”
I think its only 30% to the lowest enemies. It doesnt carry over afaik unless im misunderstanding your message
The look of the new sniper got me bricked up
Is it 30% to the lowest tier in combat or is it 30% only for the lowest tier of enemy
Lowest tier enemy
Overdogs – Exotic Gloves
Talent “Weakest Link” - Amplifies Weapon Damage by 30% to the lowest ranking enemies within the Tier hierarchy:
Tier 1: Hunter, Rogue, Leader, Tank, Shield, Heavy Weapons, RPG, Medic, Controller, Warhound, Marauder.
Tier 2: Support, Engineer, Bodyguard, Immobilizer, Bomber, Mini Tank, Drone Operator.
Tier 3: Any other enemy or skill proxy.
So its not relative to who youre facing. Its absolute. To my understanding
That makes it a lot more worthless to me if that’s true ngl i was thinking “oh so if you kill the lowest ranking enemies on the field first youll always get 30% damage
nope, hutchler tested it, it finds the lowest within the room boundary
OHHHHHHHHHH WE’RE BACK
:O
be careful that it has to be within the room boundary
I hope thats intentional.
most spawn doors are coded to be different rooms than the rooms the adds will run into
So if theres a hunter, immobiliser and a rusher
I get +30% to the rusher and i kill them. Then i get +30% to the imobilizer and i kill them. Then i get +30% to the hunter and then i die kill them.
That right?
yes
I wonder how itll work for stuff like countdown extraction or openworld 🤔
to be honest after that testing, i'm just irritated as to why they don't add an indicator on the NPC to let you know that one gets the bonus
or NPCs if they have the equivalent rank
Show their symbol over your shoulder or smn
Holy shit did tou guys see rhat sanatization mod
Seems like itll be strong for rush builds or status builds
What difficulty do you normally play?
Isnt there an LMG w perfect ignite too
Heroic with 5 directives
"3+ stacks: Critical hits inflict Burning on enemies."
Iron Lung about to be stupid this season
Cool. So you're not running legos out of boredom?
OD iron lung 🙏
Yea I just matchmake and run tank to support people
Tank 😭
You're not supporting anyone if you're playing as a "tank" you're just actively making the game harder for everyone.
If you wanna support run healer imo
They're not doing either, because nobody who is running high diff, especially MM on legendary to support others, is running a "tank" build.
I mean instead of tank
Yeah I know, I was talking about the OP
Hello all
I mean there's is a support tank build I call it but there hard to explain
Anyone have the link to join the PTS?
You don't need a link.,...you just need to own the game on Ubisoft store
Is it more efficient for me to farm the climax mission on challenging bc its faster or on heroic even tho itd be slower bc of the higher drop chance for tinkerer
Personal choice.
It's faster to get the Tinkerer on Master...because it has a 100% chance to drop
Id have to LFG a master run since im only SHD 230💔 i wouldnt have an issue with that at all its just figuring out the timing for it would be tricky
JUst MM it in game
plenty of people running it
Your SHD level does not matter, what matters is your build and how you use it.
You can run the highest tier content in div2 without Expertise or a maxed out SHD.
Let’s gooo I got chatterbox
Nice!
^^^ I've only been play Div2 for like 16 months now but I learned really quick because I just became a support players ran thru some speed like run thru leggo and stuff and watched and learned what they were doing first hand.
So, steam players can't play the PTS, right?
not at the moment
okay..thats sad, ty
I swore I saw someone DL it on steam somewhere
i think they might have been able to but it was not the right version so it didnt connect
It irks my nerves when I join a countdown and they immediately kick me because of my level 😂like mf you didn’t even give me a chance to play
What’s your level
if you are joining heroic it's a bunch of kids who are narrow minded and find their meaning in builds they think are "meta". If you are doing heroic most people here will tell you, don't even bother. It's not worth it, more people on challenging and the drops and credits you get are pretty much the same or minimal difference.. and on challenging I am yet to see someone kicked. So if this is happening on Heroic, (this is known behavior) just do challenging or as start your own and then YOU can kick people.
One possibility is to start one with another player, then you are the leader.
Mission fixed or hot fixed? Just hopping on haven’t seen anything someone give me a yes or no
I got kicked a few times before when I first started before the game started. I kept getting put back in that lobby. He left, then that lobby went on to absolutely roll the game. Heh
Manhunt fixed? Yes or no
Not yet
no.. it's "under investigation" on trello
Alright. Thanks. Sir. Take care.
Yea I always play heroic just to better my gameplay and strategies when I fighting
yeah, you won't get "better" tbh on countdown. Countdown people run to farm stuff.. it's very linear activity too. To get better do open world on heroic with directives and run CPs, that will make you A LOT better as you will have unpredictable situations that will teach you danger awareness, movement, positioning etc especially if you get hit with Elite Patrol, Resource Convoy and CP guys at the same time. If you are farming specific gear or exotics, just hit challenging on CD. You'll also finish it faster.
also @lapis grotto you benefit a lot more doing CPs for example, because at your level 114 you said, you want those blueprints in your crafting library. Countdown provides limited XP, it lasts 20 minutes, and basically just gives you a way to get specific gear rolls or credits to get exotics/named items. CPs give you blueprints to craft them.
Is the provacator even worth doing the manhunt stuff hunt for
can you get gold weapons in descent?
not really tbh
No
Ok so, is there only supposed to be two invaded missions?
camp white oak
That’s not invaded for me, it’s just blank
it is invaded this week, make sure you switch it to it
I can’t switch it
just wasted 1 hour of my life cause of the manhunt mission bugged at the end, what a great game !
nade yourself and redo the fight
grandson, come carry me through master manhunt 🐐
give me 10mins?
ofc
What part of the shop is the outfit we can buy for textiles in
Question how much the outfit cost in the second game
itll be random pieces if any are on sale. theyll show a yellow textile cost along with the premium credit cost
So can I get by grinding or I need to use irl money ?
that was for raptor, forgot to tag.
you can get some apparel around open world cases. youll also earn apparel caches that will drop a selection of apparel over time. season tracks offer some , the rest is premium credit (irl money)
i'm getting on
I really hope the manhunt is fixed soon.... Cleared the boss room 5 times today she dropped the loot but couldn't complete the objective 😭
hmmm
Oh yeah it is individual pieces, it's pretty ugly as well but heh
the boots are fancy at least
ty for running @full zinc 
appreciate you 
anyone has this happen to them, some sound just cut like reload sound, seeker mine rolling behind me etc
Its the aces outfit
@thin oasis The comment was in reply to Raptor.
You can buy more than 1 thing for Textiles in the store, it's worth going through the Outfits list and buying all pieces that you can now, in case they change-up later on.
has the cause of the master mission boss bug been descovered?
I don't think so, they are aware of it tho
unsure. i was able to complete earlier without issue. must be random who it affects.
I'm wondering if Keiko's ignoring status effects is a part of the bug or something else
then we need to defeat the boss with no skill and only firepower?
The official word is "investigating the potential causes, the fix is top priority".
Not always tho, she still softlocks without status effects too
omg
its all down to luck?
What's worse is that her incendiary nade counts as the status effect. I accidentally shot her nade right after it left her hand and softlocked
haha so unluck
I guess so, just rinse and repeat as long as you can bear with it
ive cleared it using the st.elmos engine
I haven't tried every exotics but the Elmo seems to be safe. Pestilence and Bluescreen are no go.
same, elmo striker with emp sticky didnt cause any issues
However, if a bug occurs, party members will leave the game in a random match.
are you running it ge on or off?
then we cant matchmaking
now ge on
ran it without ge earlier
Does GE matter?
idk, but if its on and you have it lock up, it would be worth turning it off. just in case
yeah happened with me today, was playing it for fun, everyone left at the end, so posted in one lfg channel if anybody wants the mask I'm at boss, got 3 player instantly, everyone got the mask 😎
I'm fed up with the current seasonal mods so I'm enjoying GB
if ge is off, bug doesnt occur?
im not sure. i didnt get the bug, but was also not running ge
.
sample size is too small
i see , i try it
wait till u see next season ones, its tied to retaliation and nowhere near first 2 seasons modifier, i loved the modifiers in first two season but now devs just nerfing it
Ooh thanks for reminding me, I haven't tried PTS yet
i played 6 clear with GE 3 times faced bug
Overall, it seems like Master Mission and GE don't go together well.
Just for now... hopefully
I might be the only one but has anyone had server disconnect while in manhunt on master?
Not me, just finished the run.
You're not alone, I got deltad on my run yesterday
luckily the progress was saved when I relogged asap
Me and the randoms was so close to finally besting her and then poof server crash
I’m talking sliver of health few more shots and we would have our loot
omg its tragedy
Wasn't server. Otherwise everyone else would be disconnected. It could be on your end, maybe something you're using (load out) interferes with your game and it kicked you out?
We all disconnected
I can’t upload the video here but I was able
To get a video of when it disconnected. Everyone in the party chat was saying that everyone was frozen nd stuff 😩😩 why is there bug issues.
I was hoping it would be a fix here? I was only using the chameleon. But I’ve noticed ppl say that it’s cause of status ailments that might be effecting the game as well.
@whole wadi See for full details.
There should be a fix in the future
If still confused, please reread comment.
5 hours maintenance again 🙁
😫
Is it to fix how monumentally underwhelming the final stage of the manhunt was? 12 weeks for that!
maintenance?seriously?
Yeah just playing and it popped up, server closing in 50 minutes estimated downtime 5 hours
bruh, why?
omg maint for 5hrs! how dare they fix something!
They're adding more bugs.
unfortunately, random matching doesnt work when GE is off.😢
Developers actively trying to improve their game after players complain about its need for improvements?!?!
How dare they >:C
What do they check for 5 hours?
I always MM with GE off, it has worked for me. probably not affecting all.
yeah :(
How dare they fix something!
merciful God they fix something
Okay folks, take a chill pill.
Cant wait for stretch goals. Gonna get me 0 lexingtons bc my poor rng 🥲
Maybe they're trying to release the stretch goal in advance?
In case folks are confused, those aren't until the 19th.
There's no way they'd combo stretch goals with GB, although that would be amazing.
If only 🥲
Sever maintenance again?
unfortunately
Let me know when someone tries to demand free premium currency for a server downtime, I've got my bingo card ready.
until then: stay nice, folks!
Worth it if they're fixing manhunt mission
can we get some premium creds for compensation?
It's gotta come up naturally.
pretty please
This aint no genshin impact
lmfao
i love nikke
(I think genshin does that. Idr not played it in ages)
Genshin balances out doing that with being a gambling simulator designed to target children and the lonely.
I'll take the downtime sans gambling addiction.
But ye so for stretch goals my plan is to farm
3 lexingtons
2 turmoils
1 snowmaker (for fun)
The apparel set
why not three turmoils?
and a partidge in a pearrrrrrrrrrrr treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
1 for chc build and 1 for a hsd build
then make it 6 turmoils for all 4 characters 
I only play on 1
There are two knees, so I need two.
I have more but i dont play on them
Just so you know, you can't recalibrate Turmoil so one pair should suffice
:C
Assuming the new drops are the same as the original, of course
muehehehe
nyehehhejehejehehe
ᓚᘏᗢ
You haven't unlocked the 5th character slot yet?
So the plan is 3 lexingtons, 1 turmoil, 1 snowmaker, full apparel set ||and a partridge in a pear tree||
I'm guessing... banana pie!
Aren't we all.
@marble wolf If you're trying to find someone to run with, check out #lfg-xbox for general play, and make sure you join a clan, you can find one down in #td2-clan-recruitment. Welcome, Agent 
Thanks
Shame theres no crossplay ;-;
server maintenance down time 5hours
why no official announcement?
Wait, are the servers closing for maintenance? I just launched the game.
It happens.
To fix the bug in new Master Manhunt Mission I guess
i hope so.
but Officials haven't said anything. That's like taking out insurance. They're not saying they'll fix it even if it can't be fixed.
nothing happen 🤔
If there is no game update, then probably it won't be fixed.
Maintenance for the 5 people who don't have the mask yet
Server maintenance!
Another 5 hour maintenance? ZzZzzz...
It's not a surprise because of the end mission bug
So the servers are down, you guys miss division already I see 😆
Let's go and play PTS instead 😄
Any patch notes?
Is it up?
None so far, but I'm guessing the maintenance is to try and fix the manhunt boss
While maintenance is happening I guess I watch YouTube and eat food because I'm hungry.
Thanks for the update.
5 hour for 1 bug?
Yes it is. J Mc said the game director is live in Plums stream and confirmed it. Also only 3hrs planned and surprise afterwards.
It's gonna be crazy if they launch Stretch goal after maintenance
"Surprise afterwards" 🤔
Touching grass confirmed???
just installed the game for the first time through gamepass pc and every time i try to connect i get the error mike-01, but when i check the server status it says theyre fine, what should i do?
Wait for servers to come back online
There's a maintenance, just wait.
Maintenance right after I get a new agent to lvl 40
I was gonna go farm countdown dammit 😭
There's currently maintenance on-going, normally there's an update in the annoucement channels.
Dont worry. Youre not missing much
oh, where do i check to know about that in the future? i dont see anything on the server status website
@gloomy rain #server-status will normally have a post.
Got it, thank you 🙂
this one is pretty out of the blue so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Server Maintenance is done?
Just started lol
Dammit I wanted to farm activity
What indicated that it couldve already been completed?
yeah im not gunna bother ig, just gunna go to bed and maybe try tomorrow if ubisoft launcher decides to work
Hopefully I am able to get the Tinkerer mask to drop after the maintenance is done.
Nothing just wanted to ask
Well back to killing floor 2
How long is the maintenance again?
3hrs planned
Said it started at 07:30 so it's been nearly 2h already
Oh that doesn’t sound too bad
Didn’t realize there was a maintenance tonight. Was waiting on the menu like an idiot😭😅
the estimated time was around 5hrs
Started 38 minutes ago though 😉
I didn’t know I was playing the beta for battlefield 6😅
Game director said 3hrs in Plums stream though.
um i just closed the game and all my monitors went black
We will be performing an essential maintenance on 15 August 2025 from 07:30.
From the website
i was on ingame before the maintenance and there was 5hrs written on the warning sign
does this game usually cause blackscreen issues? i have the latest drivers installed, updated them less than an hour ago.
Ur gpu driver coulda deleted itself id try to boot in safe mode
Fortnite has done that to my pc before
just finished rebooting, not a driver issue
Ubi support site uses UTC
CET is UTC+2
Many have had problems with the latest nvidia driver. If that is what you have try rolling back to the previous one, or do a reinstall using ddu to completely clear the old driver.
maybe, gunna take too long to do tn so maybe ill try tomorrow, yall have a nice night
<t:1755261000:f> <t:1755261000:R>
I think. Idk i dont understand timezones ;-;
Yes assuming it's 5 not 3
Yep, -2hrs if game director is right with 3hrs.
itll be what itll be ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Plenty of time to touch grass, go for a walk, clean your room... uhhh... what else do people do?
What is touching grass and what is going for a walk never heard of those words before👀👀👀
Going outside? Hell nah
There's nothing on X about this maintenance, does it have something to do with the new exotic mask bug???
There’s a monsoon outside I think I’m good
time for bf6
You can call it twitter, don't worry.
Everyone else does.
Unless you're talking about a newsletter that your ex sends you.
Which website should I check to find official announcement in case like this? Official website/twitter isn't saying anything😭
It's unscheduled, that'S why there is no real announcement this time.
Ubisoft's support site is very reliable
It's an emergency maintenance they normally announce maintenance in advance through the normal channels
Apparently it's holiday over there even, and they still did overtime to get it done.
Ye its a bit out of the blue/short notice
#server-status would normally have a notice about it in advance, watch the space.
ohh thx a lot
fair enough
It's actually a holiday in Romania so kudos to them
can i play pts if i buy game from steam?
^^^ i think so ?
in ubisoft connect cant see client for test server
Search in your steam library, might show there.
Currently the steam version looks to be bugged out, but there's maintenance going on right now so keep an eye out, ya never know.
i realy dont know how it wors tbh - you need seome one with more knowlage then me sorry mate
yes, is there... thanks
It didn't work for me when I bought another copy via Steam last year.
But now it shows in Steam usually. No idea if it works though, as I have all my other accoutns via Ubi now
i have it via ubi from when they didnt want to deal with steam so im locked into that
If you buy a version on steam and link the same account, you'll carry over progress.
and IIRC you only need to buy the base game on there, and you will have access to the DLC, assuming you already bought it on ubi-connect.
Why wasn’t this put on twitter and why does Ubisoft claim servers are up and running ?
Seems odd to keep this a secret and have tons of people posting on Reddit and twitter and this was a secret
@next orbit #server-status is where you go to find into about maintenance.
Because it was last minute fix.
is the servers down?
there was nothing in server status when me an my bruv tried to get in - they have put a note now so theres that
at least half hour - hour when there was nothing from ubi
So all other places on line it’s normal for devs to claim apps good and just this one place they tell people?
Ubisoft and twitter claims servers up all good
hope they extend golden bullet and 3x exp
The game is currently undergoing maintenance to fix the Climax Mission finale bug, servers will be up by approximately: <t:1755262800:t> (local time).
not 9:30?
#server-status message
that would be under 3 hours from the time of the post.
hope for 3hrs expect 5+hrs is the way im looking at it 🫡
Maintenance can be late or early to end, just remember that it's an important thing that has to be done.
oh aye it is wat it is for sure but we all understand for the need to try and get that there mask
when most are very time pour these days
i did try 14 thimes for the mask and still dint get it 🙁 lol
Don't try and you'll get it.
good advise
is the lexington coming back?
Yeah aswell as the Tumoil on 19th
looks like it yes
whats turmoil
is it the only kneepads with a talent? ....except exotics ofc
No. Think there's Grease, Snowmachine, maybe more. Can't remember since I don't care about any of em. Gear sheet will have them all listed though.
thanku
how long are the servers down
Actually it's only Turmoil and Snowmachine, others are "just" named.
See the pinned message
Better than having to play an unfixed game 🤷♂️
@sage scarab http://thedivision2.com/stretchgoals-summer
I have been told that lexington will drop groll with maxed stats including dttooc
That's what they said on the livestream yeah
wait from names caches?
Doesnt it apply to turmoil and that other gun (g36?)
Probably but wasn't explicitly confirmed
? why did i get miked
🤔 sadge. Iirc turmoil is a fixed roll tho
Me when uhhhm servers uhhh #server-status
oh i just got on
(Servers are down but they gave us pretty short-no notice)
welp
It is what it is. Might aswell go for a walk or smn
<t:1755261000:f> <t:1755261000:R>
PTS is online
Servers up?
Bonus. Servers back up just as I finish work 🤣
They will be back in about 3 and a half hours. When I finish work
Ah i get ya
"Patch notes: In order to work around the climax mission bug we decided the easiest way would be to make Keiko completely invisible for the entire encounter" 😏
Man, i hate the maintenance times it's my only free time before work 🙁
Stretch goals have regulus in those caches? That's crazy
is it only 1 exotic cache on it now?
And big horn, and oro
"As a result of the climax mission bug the shd have decided to hire a hunter to aid their efforts"
Those i could get behind
An exotic with a whole raid quest though
0.01% chance iirc
14.2%
That's to access the exotic roll, then you roll for which one you get
0.5%
Nuh uh
Into a 14.2% for a specific one
Chat gpt said 0.071% for a specific one from the pool
So around 0.07% to get what you want
✅ Final odds: 0.071% per attempt — which is about 1 in 1,408 tries on average.
I already got all the raid exotics so idm :3
If you look at the original article, some exotics have a 'moderate drop chance', but the raid ones have 'rare drop chance', iirc last time that was 0.5% with each cache, but there's 7 in the pool so it's lower.
That's where where 0.071% figure comes from
0.5% × 14.2%
Tl:dr insane luck or a stupid amount of cache farming
An impossible amount of farming tbh lol.
1 in 1408, with 6 caches for every 10 completed rounds... 😁
I'll be happy to get either big horn or eagle bearer
Farm a floor boss in summit on legendary I got 2 back to back in 10min
really? i didn't know thanks!!!!
i got like 5 big horns from legendary district union the past 2 days
Yeah I've been doing it solo on challenging, first few attempts she killed me with her one shot skills but last night I shot the fire grenade as she was about to throw it so last bar of health was all while she was running around screaming on fire, that was fun 🙂
Ye for example do floor 10 that’s a boss wave first kill 5 enemies and then boss comes in only kill that boss then return to lobby then re do the same thing
so try ur luck there @loud basalt
Big Horn has a flat 5% drop chance from legendary bosses in the summit and strongholds
I will! I don't think i can survive legendary tho, but as soon as i get together a legendary build i'll go for it!
When does the maintenance ends im almost shd500🥲
🙁 i guess i'm just unlucky
Summit much faster than strongholds as you don't have to clear the whole mission for 1 boss, just a few adds
i honestly dont believe the 5% chance since i have run it 7 times the past 2 days and got it 5 times from district union
i haven't been to the summit that much since i find countdown more effective for farming hehe
F10 is the optimal farm because of time. But floor 90 has 3 bosses if you can find a farm for that.
I remember someone here opening their first cache and got an eagle bearer lol
That's the drop chance, don't know what else to tell you
Rng loved you
If they didn't fix the cache bug it's easier to farm
If they didn't meh just going for the cosmetics
Although I want some more nimble holsters
it always did xD ravenous first chest eb and ouroborus first chest so idk might be hella lucky
Lmao me too but bighorn took Me like 14 kills
i have it since summit release where it was only on floor 100 legendary drop
Cool
they should have kept it like that honestly
Then most players would never get close to the top
how long is the maintenance gonna be?
Back in my day the weekly summit project was just a floor 100 clear and i would hand out checkpoints
See pinned message
so what ? less people crutching regen big horn builds in dz xD
And honestly, the gun isn't THAT good that it deserves to be locked behind floor 100 only lol
true that was a thing too xD forgot about it
does the big horn or eagle bearer have fixed rolls? or do you need to farm it to get good rolls i'm assuming you'd want damage out of cover
3 hours......
Random. You can reconfigure tho.
Major and first minor attribute are fixed (not including the %). The 2nd minor is random stat and %
What
maintenance
3rd attribute is random but mainly get damage out of cover
Dam thanks for info
Since it's a lego drop it cant roll below 80% on any attribute I believe
But the first 2 always the same but they can be mini maxed out or maxed out stat
still some level of randomness across all stats tho ¯_(ツ)_/¯
i hope they extend the triple exp event 😄 i really want to get to 1000 before it ends
Heroic controlpoints and pub executions
Activity my friend
Its so weird to me that WONY was needed so long to access this games endgame but they just havent added similar types of content they add to the DC map to it other than a manhunt
Exactly what this good fella said
Lorewise ik black tusk wouldnt be there blah blah but itd still be cool to have some type of mission remixes w some enemy type
ill have to try it only recently got to level 500 yesterday because of the bond armoury
What level are you now?
1 stronghold priority objective with xp reward gives about 7 levels
690? i think. I was at 300+ when the event started. Yeah i've been doing priority objectives with xp rewards
Just keep activating prios with xp rewards. You'll get there in no time. Try walking places instead of fast travelling directly to the place you want to be completing open world acts on the way. I did 96 levels last night that way
got it! thanks man
Made 400 level in no time doing CP4 with all 5 directives
Don't forget daily/weekly projects too. They give a HUGE chunk of XP
what level do you have to be to fully complete the SHD watch?
i only have 4 directives. I can't with the ammo disadvantage lol
It works well with the bullet event, spam killing them 😄
But you can handle the broken fragile armor ?!?!
999 to finish all the points.
2000 you stop getting health bonus
thanks
Oh yeah! I've been enjoying pestilence build with golden bullet lol
ive been using bullet king with the event
somehow? lol
i've been dying a alot tho. and i panic when rogue agents suddenly appear
imma say it
Are servers dwn
u took my line
Huh
yes they are
thought so
See pinned message for timings
tht est time
exotic shroud is clean remind me of hunter skin
Hammer time my beloved
it's just a unix timestamp used by Discord
how long ago did the server went down?
1 hr 20 min. Just enough time to touch grass or go for a walk
Servers up for me
2hr 40 i think
ahh ok thanks. wasnt aware of the maintenance
Neither was most of us
It was a sudden thing with no notice. My guess is its climax mission fix but we'll see
🤔 okok
Servers are up
Yeah they said it's for the climax fix.
Ye make sure to check the apparel store for the surprise 😂
Servers back on fellas
Another bandaid fix , just send everyone a Lexington to use on the mission if we can’t use our preferred weapons.
Patch notes?
It was literally to fix the climax mission
The confuse at shield break should be removed with the new pistol the tempest its really stupid
And to all of our surprise they didn’t fix it , don’t use the meta weapons that 90% of players use .
And you know they didn't fix it because?
Did you read the patch notes ? It’s a temporary workaround until they can actually fix it.
I don't think 90% of players use pestilence somehow
I didn't see anyone use pesti there myself and it still bugged out yesterday
Even 9% would be high lmao
Or it's different reasons why it bugs out
st elmo buggs the boss
Not every time.
Killed her 4 times yesterday with Elmos
Most players are using St.Elmos
if she is shocked and kill her. get bugged
Elmos doesn't cause damage over time, the new update just says don't use dot
Servers back up
This feels more like avoiding a hole in the road instead of filling it with concrete from the devs but ok.
I use pesty especially during golden bullet
somehow i still have not got a pestilence
Probably some mixture of DoT effects, and not clearing out all the adds before triggering the next phase
So basically don’t use pestilence
Ryeley you play division2 tf 😂😂
My guess was i missed this message 🥲
Luckily its noy been a dz exclusive for a while. Back in my day it only dropped im the dz ;-;
I was under the impression it was a DZ exclusive, had it drop on a TL LMG mission in brooklyn yesterday
Quick question if your in a group of 2 people can you do different activities? Like one does a control point and other does a hostage situation only activities not missions
I believe so however if you don’t participate in the event you don’t get the exp and the loot.
Oh dam thanks for info
No problem
If you're far away from the group members, you can't get experience
I just had a the world stance moment on a control point activity the whole game just froze
It's already back up
Neat
cat bag...
indeed indeed
any idea how to fix stash bug where all the items are missing?
Log off and on again or travel to different map (eg NY)
Well some l thing I never knew 😅
yeah been playing for a while
Wat do u get from finishing main mission
Which main mission?
yo chat
How do you do, fellow kids
right now im currently clan scouting, i’ll probably go an xbox lfg
I saw, but since im xbox im more limited here
The manhunt
Tinkerer exotic mask (if u do It on máster difficulty)
You can get it from regular but is rng
So did they remove the weakpoints on the heavy armored sledgehammer enemies?
There was one?
yes, you used to be able to shoot the bags on them as weakpoints
if you mean outcast, no it was never a weakpoint
the bags on their legs and back used to give a weakpoint symbol when shooting them
this wouldve been over a year ago at least though
Just came back a week ago and noticed it
🤔 cant say ive ever noticed it
I must be remembering something else, couldve swore they used to have them
i dont remember that, been playing since game release, was it some other boss variant you might be remembering?
could be, but I remember shooting the bags off to remove the armor
For heavies, afaik the
Black tusk is chain and box
True sons is box
Hyena is box
Cleaner is gas cans (legs and on back)
HMMMM you sure youre not thinking about heavy cleaner
hyenas is just the ammo chain
possible, thhey have bags to right?
yeah
thats probly it then
lol they didnt even fix the main mission with this maintence
They have gas cans with body armor vests on. You shoot the vests until they break and then can explode the can
its not a full fix, the splash screen says that. The full fix is still in progress
"avoid using dots"
"A permanent fix is still in development."
shame, shame, shame
You should join their team to help fix it 🙏
its probly not an easy fix dude. Bugs are annoying to fix because when you fix one, 10 more could pop up.
ik im just kidding, new player and loving the game
and no, im not exaggerating, ive literally seen it happen countless times at work lol
this damn game made me quit all other games since im addicted to this farm and grind
these exp events are rare?
every season theres usually two
i finally got to 1k+ watch level cause of it and I can't think of anything else other than leveling
oh thats nice
Fill library, optimise builds, grind expertise
yea working on that, expertise 16 so far and full library, ty ❤️
ya lock in for the expertise grind lol
block out a solid 3 years worth of playing to finish it lol
damnn
not that long but it does take quite awhile
yea I don't think its a problem since its fun to do, theres some grind in other games that is just pure pain
Ye. I just find it funny that some people expect it to be sorted at the click of a finger. Not saying this or all situation are like that level of expectation but its still funny when you see it.
Complete the GE, do stretch goals when they drop, raid, low man raid etc etc
yep, every time I do upgrades, 20 things break and 20 more break after I fix what originally broke lol
🥲 life of fixing stuff
it pays the bills lol
Anyway back to sillying, goofying and maybe even dillydallying
im on the grind for a few perfectly rolled pieces that I may or may not ever find lol
Imma try get some gaming done tomorrow. I bought a cheap kb for my laptop bc its weird using the laptop kb after using a desktop kb for ages
I have a gaming PC but I mostly play on console because I sit at my PC all day as it is for work
I have a gaming pc but im like 2 countries away rn and it wasnt economical to bring it
totaslly understandable, I have a laptop as well but I dont game on it much at the moment either
My laptop can handle the game but from time to time it sounds like a jet tryna take off so i bought a metal mesh stand. All the more reason i bought the usb kb
Ok now fr. Back to regularly scheduled goose activities 🪿
No not removed, but they also arent weak points, just armor plates (bags = plates on other heavy).
You are thinking about when you needed to strip the armor off of basilisk for one of the stage 5 gunner challenges.
Now for 500, then 6, 7, 8, 9 , 1k
More xp on 5x
0o0

I have been running ongoing directive with tinkerer it’s op
tinkerer stays in my stash where it belongs lol
hahahah you havn't tested a frenzy measured gr9 striker build then
Works very well with ongoing
Ngl got bored of strikers
5x xp is pretty powerful I went up 400 levels or so during the last one.
ive gone up over 200 levels already lol
Nice
Have an ongoing build as well but 1700 rpm is hard to beat
but I also work from home and run shit throughout the day when im not busy
Me too lol yesterday 100 lvls and today another 100
Anybody else get Birdies Bag as a completion reward from any difficulty other then master?
Sounds interesting
Theres a chance to get it
Not as a drop
yeah on lower difficultys theres a chance to get it
^
No I mean I know it can drop but as the completion reward?
only on master
Always drops as completion reward
I got it on hard
well then yeah you hit the chance to drop
Never drops from boss
bro no one is disagreeing with you
Yes thats what its meant to be it is a completion reward
yo someone farm the 10 floors of the summit in legend
can you not craft ceska?
can't craft ceska chest
got it
Damn that new snow teaser 👀
Pls be more than a game mode. I wanna see snow in the open world.
Snow in DC oml,,,
Honestly don't know what to think it'll be
Doesn't feel like it'll come anytime soon
We'll find out soon I guess
Hey, how long is the stretch goal Event ? is it one Week ?
3 weeks IIRC.
Nice thank you.
Also i checked the events timeline and i noticed we also have a 2x season xp event on the 19th
Well, some players have yet to complete the season pass.
Thats what the 5x was for :3
Nothing wrong with more Season xp events
Within like the last 2 weeks weve had
5x season pass xp
3x regular xp
Soon 2x season pass xp
Its a nice thing to see tho 
anyone else hope the new snow thingy they show isn't survival 2.0
I liked survival
i think even if it is there will be more alongside it, dc in winter is too much to just only have it in survival
Is there any wey to disable.. or remove some of the icons my team has on their name? It gets to the point where it's annoying.
what icons
Turn off player names🤷🏼
Left of their name.
as far as i know no, the ui settings arent that detailed unfortunately
Is there a way to remove their names all together ? Or do anything.
Ever since the mask came out its annoying.. Big A on everyone.. then 2-3 other icons.
No option there.
Would you want the summer DC to disappear?
Anyone in this chat in the dixie clan on Xbox
Dark environment again YYYYAAAAYYYY
the only way to get rid of is playing solo or staying out in front of the group, unfortunately
I want them to fix the fog and lighting. Legit get blinded by the ligh... wait a second >->
I just got a godroll Groupo backpack with unstoppable force good for ongoing directive I guess
M1980 smg measured/killer tinkerer/hunters fury slaps!
ceska is better with wicked...did 30 countdownn to drop
I keep getting Manning National Zoo in priority objectives and no one joins the matchmaking 🙁
Both are good I have both ceska and groupo
Hell I did over 40 lol
Ceska farm is annoying
nah ceska gives 2% ch for 1%cd
Anyone else getting constant Delta-03’s since today’s maintenance?
need 2 on pc for capitol building on legendary.
Ubisoft name: Clemzin
is there no list of weapon skins on the wiki? I only see it for division 1
Hi, I'm wondering if the Tinkerer mask works?
I play with a GR9+frenzy / G36C+Rationalization and I can't get the frenzy on the G36C and vice versa.
Thank !
g36c is an AR
7 shd lvls left for 500
and ?
You need the same weapon type
Tinkerer works only with the same gun type for example a smg with a smg or a lmg with a lmg
Named and exotics won’t work with it
Oh ok thank big issue with french translation of talent
Now for 600
Well done on making it half way through the tutorial
If the math is right and the figures are correct then at 7 shd levels per stronghold run that will be 15 runs
Well 14.28 but you cant really have .28 of a run and it still count
Wait that without any directives or with all 5? Cuz I have running the whole map with control points and activities
