td2-general-chat

[kind veldt]

you can probably get one by pure luck

but the odds are that you will hit 40 before getting that

[warm zodiac]

Making a new char wouldn’t be an issue, just seeing if anyone is able to confirm from personal experience

[jagged prism]

think one of my characters gotten a level 30 pestilence, but i think it was before the one update (being able to level 1-40 in DC) but i can imagine it's definitely possibly but you'd have to win the lottery for it

[dry gate]

is maintain momentum thing for 180s cumulative or it has to be literally 180s in one go while keeping T4 momentum?

[jagged prism]

it's keeping the momentum at t4 for 180 seconds in one consecutive go
best way to keep it up is getting kills and using the pulse skill and sprinting

[dry gate]

I mean I figured it out.. was just making sure it has to be in one go

I go to shooting range.. raise it up to the max and then run out and kill little ads.. that's what I did for tier 2 momentum thing

[gaunt spruce]

Wow I just did another round of 100 eggs and definitely did not get the listed rewards for it.

Just reset the counter and it's showing the same rewards I was supposed to get as my next reward

[grand blade]

All rewards are the same reward now.

[eager oar]

just a quick question, im leveling a new character, i have previously got another character to journey 3. leveling my new character i did the explosive kills and got the XP from the journey even though its locked. is this correct?

[keen osprey]

Second scout activity.. tanks/chungas I presume? Is there anywhere easy to find them?

[keen osprey]

As far as I'm aware they changed it so that the progress tracks across all characters rather than how it was at the start of the season where it was individual

[alpine tiger]

Is there release date for DLC this month ?

[eager oar]

okay, even with my character being under level 30, finished one of the jounreys and got like 100k XP

[keen osprey]

It will be June at the earliest. We will find out on 23rd April

[gaunt spruce]

I didn't get any rewards though? Not even a cache

[severe moon]

Is technician better than gunner for St Elmo’s build as solo player?

[eager oar]

im currently level 15 and i can progress the 3rd journey is that correct? or is it bugged from a previous character that had it unlocked

it says you need level 30 for the 3rd journey

[lunar hare]

you mean a Striker's build? Not really

[severe moon]

Yes because I’m getting shredded playing striker with gunner class

[kind veldt]

if you plan to use skills more, then use technician, if you plan to shoot more, use gunner in a nutshell

[severe moon]

I probably should go all blues huh?

[kind veldt]

there are minor pros and cons so you need to to give more context

assuming it's specialized PVP build?

try #td2-pvp-discussions , they can give you the details better

[severe moon]

Got 4 pieces striker, obliterate on chest and coyote mask with st Elmo’s

I don’t do pvp I’m trash

[lunar hare]

You sacrifice your DMG for survivability... run HB instead.

[severe moon]

Sorry for ignorance what’s HB?

[lunar hare]

Because it's a DPS build, not a survivability one.

[lunar hare]

Not ignorant, Heartbreaker.

[severe moon]

@lunar hare I get that but my damage sucks too

[lunar hare]

You get better dmg by maintaining stacks up

[severe moon]

I ‘m assuming you have to be close to sdh 1000 before you really start doing damage

@lunar hare Doomz is obliterate or perfect glass cannon better for chest?

[lunar hare]

depends on the situation
But by popular opinion = Oblit

[lunar hare]

Not true, SHD bonuses don't do that much.

[small spear]

not really

are you playing carelessly? use cover and take on the enemy 1 by 1

[severe moon]

No I use cover not a face tanker at all I’m in the process of trying to get materials to optimize my gear but thats a grind

[lunar hare]

play like john wick
plan your attacks using cover

if it helps

[kind veldt]

you can try playing either more long range or closer also

[river flame]

hello

[kind veldt]

hunter's fury is a very agressive set that also gives armor back after each kill, but it requires very agressive close range playstyle if you are into that

[river flame]

what if i couldn't login to the game till today and i missed the Named "TURMOIL" Kneepads

oh it feels so bad is there is any way to get it ?

[kind veldt]

not at the moment i think

[river flame]

thanks

[jagged prism]

Can confirm I haven't gotten another drop

[gaunt spruce]

Hey question: Once you end a settlement blockade, that should be it for the week right? It shouldn't recur twice over in the same day?

[kind veldt]

blockade should be just once a week when the invasion resets if that happens

[gaunt spruce]

Ya so this is definitely a bug. I've completed mine this week twice already and every time I join another match and come back it's reset

[hybrid ore]

If you're still getting XP for it: take the win.

[sterile scaffold]

Cheaters in the DZ be absolutely wild

[crisp geode]

Fr

[sterile scaffold]

Two seconds into the DZ and you get one tapped

[opaque ruin]

Can Regulus roll with DTTOC?

I'm going to craft until I get the best roll and wasn't sure what drops on it.

[lunar hare]

yup

[dry gate]

that's why I did one DZ to see how it was.. and left.. someone let me extract (probably a cheater as he was farming extraction point). Now I will probably never go into DZ again.

or do any of the projects for it.. which sucks.. I just hate that crap

[opaque ruin]

Is DTTOC the play there? Or is crit/headshot better?

[sterile scaffold]

Yep

[dry gate]

is headshot damage also a weak point damage?

[dry gate]

what do Summit Challenges do?

just xp?

oh nm.. I saw.. they actually give increased rewards

[south topaz]

no

[south topaz]

DTTOC has multiplier effect on damage so as a 3rd attribute it **always **better than any other attribute, there is a very good video in youtube about this effect, search 'How To Calculate Damage In The Division 2'

[humble sparrow]

dttoc also just affects far more of the game

[severe moon]

Question is perfect bloodsucker a dz exclusive backpack?

[hybrid ore]

@severe moon Yep! Liquid Engineer is locked to the DZ.
So either there or Named Item Caches.

[iron gust]

If you enjoy descent you could farm the blueprint of that and all the dz exclusive named items there

[shrewd beacon]

Hello ! il reste des joueurs FR ici ? 🙂

[tender wave]

Hi @shrewd beacon, I'm afraid we have an English-only rule for the chat channels in this server. You are welcome to use your choice of language in the lfg and clan recruitment channels, however.

[shrewd beacon]

Oh ok sorry 🙂

[unreal perch]

there is a french discord for Division 2. i can send invite in ur dm if u want

[shrewd beacon]

Sure !

[shrewd beacon]

You can send me the link 😛

[storm wing]

when will the servers come back?

[last spade]

servers down?

[storm wing]

it says servers restarting

idk if there is maintainence or not?

ahh all good mb

[last spade]

how long does a raid run usually last?

[molten spire]

hair over 30 minutes for Dark Hours if everyone knows what to do and all goes well (no oneshot strat fails to name one)

[opaque ruin]

No I know, but it seems like most Regulus builds go for headshot damage. Wasn't sure if this was an Eagle Bearer situation where Regulus only rolled with that once upon a time and only recently got the perk pool opened up to add DTTOC.

[wise basalt]

what is going with this game rn? 3 crashes in an hr, never had this many crashes

[golden ginkgo]

what do i do i just hit 40 how do i get gear?

[tender wave]

You repeat content (missions, open world activities, game modes).
Check the 'show target loot' toggle on your main map to see what loot will drop more in which areas.

In summit and countdown you can choose your own target loot

[fathom raft]

Any news about Lexington coming back been released at all haven’t kept up recently.

[tiny oar]

no

[wind lynx]

So what are you guys doing most of the time when playing the game? Anyone who just enjoys free roaming without any proper goal and just engaging within the combat naturally?

Helping random agents is also fun.

[wise basalt]

for the easter egg, the unmarked shd is the last one right?

[tender wave]

Yes, it'll give you the new mmr.

[dark tinsel]

Guys does anyone know how I can increase the control point's difficulties? they're all on story

[tender wave]

You likely have to finish the base game story progression, see this guide:
#ask-td2-community message

[gleaming meteor]

so.... I reached lvl 40 a few days ago. Suddenly my screen is bombarded with things. what's ANNA, why the castle suttelment is suddenly thriving with AA guns and why kelso is rogue XD

[lusty shuttle]

@glass quail you still need help with DARPA?

[pastel egret]

Is anyone around that would help me with Countdown? I just hit 40 not long ago and I’ve never gotten to do a lot of this end game content.

[tender wave]

Mostly stuff from previous season storylines. Anna is the rogue version of isac, castle was rebuilt after black tusk attacked the white house, Keener and Theo are alive again and working with us (and Kelso) against the hunters and BT.

[tender wave]

Just matchmake in on challenging difficulty and follow your group. It's a bit intimidating at first but give it a go and you'll get the hang of it. Just don't bring damage skills like turrets, they get hacked.

[compact dune]

so.. I've been playing this game, for a minute since before. War lords of new York was even a thing. i started on my ps4 never really knew what i was doing cuz my friend at the time didn't really explain anything to me but now I'm back on my pc and i still feel like I'm behind in game knowledge

[willow zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1GvHwGDeC8&t=6652s Long video but use the key and you can scroll through to what youre most interested in. Very in depth though 🙂

[wintry niche]

just queue on heroic, its always full even at like 5 am

[kind veldt]

go to challengins it's better there and has more people

[tender wave]

Heroic is harder to carry undergeared players through too, better not to send brand new players there

[compact dune]

i looked at this one website called divison 2 builds tool to make a build or at least see it with what i want to do can some one look at it and give me some feedback https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwJgtADJblffRDIC5gDZkEZpawZmXliNQFYpxgYxrhqlGiUCxCocmvnhLdTujFPgCc2ARKGEcosATFZgORR1ACUgyShD4S6BpIQp02qPniyhC6lkxcgA

[tender wave]

#td2-build-advice is the place to ask, be sure to check the pinned spreadsheet in there for some good build guides. It's almost never worth running more or fewer than 4 green (gearset) pieces as they lack stats compared to yellow (brandset) gear

[compact dune]

alright thanks

[cerulean dove]

Okay so now every single new outfit is just gonna be pay walled?

Because I’m running out of textile purchasable stuff. And so far I see no outfit event reruns.

[iron gust]

That's been their business model for a while

[cerulean dove]

Didn’t they promise outfit event reruns though?

Like I can understand more newer stuff, but the Outcast and Hyena outfits need atleast one item to be paywalled?

[iron gust]

No, they never did
They got rid of apparel events and now it's this time limited events
They think apparel events were boring or too mechanical with just getting SHD levels but no one really complained lol
It's their business model, trying to get people buying cosmetics
If you do reruns especially ones announced weeks or months in advance there will probably be less sales

[glass quail]

Hi @lusty shuttle !

Thanks for your offer and for checking in. I finally got it done. Made a call for help and someone finally responded. Tried a combination of striker drone and assault turret and it helped a bit.

[simple narwhal]

I need an admin on here as your support staff on ubi support are not helpful at all

I now have 2 lots of video evidence of a player cheating in Division 2 and nothing is being done about it how is this fair i meet him at least 3 times every few days please fix it

[wind lynx]

Is the game lagging for someone else?

[jagged prism]

no one here can do anything about those players honestly. sure you may see some of the devs show up on the right hand but not sure if they really read things here. for the times i've been on this discord i've never really see them chat here either, so maybe they lurk on our feedback on some things that may catch their interest?

[round oar]

One of these days I'll figure out why the New projects available thing on my HUD won't go away

[jagged prism]

you have new projects available (> <)

[round oar]

[jagged prism]

there's usually at least 1 daily

[round oar]

I've marked them all read in the projects tab, I've talked to project givers in every settlement, not really sure what I could be missing

[tender wave]

there's a hidden one you can only see if you buy the season pass

[jagged prism]

New York?

[round oar]

I do have the season pass and complete that one daily on at least one character

[tender wave]

Huh, not sure then. That's the usual suspect. Do you have the weekly legendary?

[round oar]

Yep, I have the 2 dailies, the weekly, the weekly legendary, SHD donation one, Nemesis, and the 2 pvp ones

[severe moon]

would fenris be a better chest if I went blue?

[maiden swift]

Is it possible to get the lexington AR still in Div 2?

[abstract rapids]

yeah it is

When Ubi decide to do another Lexington event

Ask Ubi when they plan to do that so we can answer your question

[alpine lantern]

no.. its veteran reward..

[tiny oar]

so thats a no lol

[alpine lantern]

the veterans reward ended 1st Jan.. end of story..

[maiden swift]

Guess I’m stuck with Elmo’s lol

Not complaining about it but would be nice to run another AR

[hybrid ore]

There's a metric ton of good AR's, it's not only Lex or Elmos.

In fact: Elmo is only mid-high end on the "good AR" scale.

[abstract rapids]

I'm sorry

[maiden swift]

Don’t be sorry, just asked a question out of curiosity

I’m still starting out lol

[abstract rapids]

I'm really lucky to have a Lexington but there is so much youtuber recommending that AR that a lot of player just arrive here and ask where they can get Lexington

[hybrid ore]

It's not really luck, you just logged on during the time period, and got your 2 copies.

[opaque ruin]

Yeah there's a lot of variables into what makes a good weapon anyway.

[abstract rapids]

I was lucky because I came back from a 3 months break of TD2

[opaque ruin]

Though apparently my statement that Strega and Chameleon are two of the higher damage options for ARs got laughed at yesterday while I was at work and couldn't respond.

[abstract rapids]

🤣

[maiden swift]

Tbh, I’m enjoying St Elmo’s as it’s one of those “who cares about your aim, you’ll still get shock ammo” guns

[hybrid ore]

The suggestion that Cham/Strega are two meta options does feel like it was taken from a YT build with "xxkillershooter" in the title.

[opaque ruin]

I don't think anyone said "meta".

[hybrid ore]

"higher damage options"

[opaque ruin]

Well according to IKia (which I guess isn't a good resource?) they appear to be just that.

[abstract rapids]

I'm also using St Elmo's because I don't want to screw up my lexington talent (and I won't be able to change it after expertising it) and St elmo's is really stable

[opaque ruin]

Burst and sustain. Obviously talent uptime is a factor, but that doesn't change their potential.

[hybrid ore]

Guns don't exist in a vacuum, iKia's stats also list the double-barrel shotgun as a damage meta, because it's about stats and stats alone.

@wind lynx You're looking for #lfg-pc, GL Agent

[abstract rapids]

potential are ruined either by it's spread or build it's talent

Chameleon should be an SMG with it's spreading bullet

Strega just make the first kill more longer

[hybrid ore]

Cham' is a weird case, it is a Vector, but uses the AR buffs, but has a slightly higher range than other SMGs, but still isn't long enough for an actual AR.

[opaque ruin]

The assertion wasn't that they're meta. It's just they can do and actually do a lot of damage.

[hybrid ore]

Sure, if you can keep the Talent active, and play close enough for it to do its full damage.

[abstract rapids]

But there is plenty of other weapon dealing more damages

[opaque ruin]

There's plenty of other weapons that can achieve/keep their damage in an easier way.

[maiden swift]

I kinda started a debated lol

[hybrid ore]

Remember that Optimal Range is a thing in div2, you need to play within a guns "range", or you do reduced damage.

[opaque ruin]

Yeah Chameleon being in SMG range is absolutely a factor.

I wasn't saying they're the best weapons. Simply that they do a lot of damage (because they do).

[hybrid ore]

Well, technically it's 20m, which is between the bulk SMG and AR ranges.

[abstract rapids]

Don't worry, that happen often

[hybrid ore]

It's why the most common use for Cham' is a Hunters Fury setup, despite getting no stat benefit.

[abstract rapids]

This is just a nerd TD2 discussion

[hybrid ore]

@abstract rapids That's the entire point of this server.

[small spear]

I'm just an average player

[opaque ruin]

Yeah no one is fighting here. Just a good discussion.

[molten spire]

well at least I'm not the one accused of laying it on thick this time

[opaque ruin]

I don't think anyone was accused of that here.

[abstract rapids]

Agreed

[hybrid ore]

I genuinely do like the Cham', but it's just a bit.....ya know.

[abstract rapids]

Hidden leo so you can have peace

[opaque ruin]

I personally am an Eagle Bearer guy. When I stopped playing it still had headshot damage---came back to it being able to roll DTTOC.

[abstract rapids]

That was my first exotic (and was a ton better than any AR I had at that moment)

So, I always look at it fondly

[opaque ruin]

Speaking of that---did Ravenous and Regulus also have static rolls and had them changed? I didn't have either on my old account years back.

[small spear]

i just lurk here and sometimes chime in with facts and logic hot takes

[small spear]

yeah you can change it for those too

[opaque ruin]

But they used to be static rolls?

[small spear]

yes

[opaque ruin]

Was it headshot damage on Regulus?

[small spear]

basically every exotic weapon can be rerolled this way, and yes

[opaque ruin]

Okay this makes sense now.

A lot of the stuff I've seen on Regulus had it with headshot damage. Which I guess makes sense given the weapon/build, but math is typically going to side with the additional multiplier in DTTOC.

I've got some rerolling to do when I get home.

[small spear]

yeah, dttooc is king on regulus, it's kind of a confusing decision why they didn't put it initially on regulus

[opaque ruin]

Well I just got it for the first time last night so I wasn't sure what the best option was.

[abstract rapids]

I love your hot cake

[opaque ruin]

I'm just under 2 months on this new account and it's been my mission to get every exotic I know I'd use in some fashion and max them out with DTTOC.

[small spear]

as the average player i only know hot takes from the typical youtuber

[simple narwhal]

Yea guess you're right there

[opaque ruin]

The people who have stuck around in the Division 2 content creation space have my respect even if I don't watch them.

Because that's not a business decision. That's for the love of the game.

[small spear]

i post videos running challenges in the game sometimes. challenging the common misconception of "full red is not viable in legendary" has been my goal for some time

the sentiment has changed over my career

[kind veldt]

actually never heard someone say that

[small spear]

someone in my comments was saying something along the lines of "solo legendary with glass cannon? no revive hive? what a joke"

[kind veldt]

i mean that was the best people had on 2.0 release

[small spear]

yeah but we had a lot of powercreep now

things are waaaay easier with the options we have

[severe moon]

Where do you guys get your black tusks tactical assessments?

[iron gust]

We craft them

[abstract rapids]

agreed

[abstract rapids]

You either craft them or kill named Black Tusk

[abstract rapids]

I feel glass cannon to dangerous for the damage gain

[small spear]

it is, but it's relevant to me because my damage is more frontloaded

[abstract rapids]

Actually, I almost never use health pack

I should reconsider it now

those health pack could come in handy

[ruby linden]

best way to farm st elmos?

[lunar hare]

countdown AR TL

[ruby linden]

ok

TL?

[unreal perch]

target loot

[opaque ruin]

I started a new account on PC at the end of February after not playing this game for like 2 years. The very first things I did was hunt for the exotics I wanted and CP farmed on Heroic to get every blueprint from them.

You'll get every tactical assessment, every alloy for the weapons, and the field recon and SHD bundles as blueprints.

It makes it a whole lot easier for you to optimize your gear.

[severe moon]

@opaque ruin CP farming is that countdown?

[opaque ruin]

Checkpoints.

They're all over the map.

[severe moon]

Ahh level 4 Checkpoints

[opaque ruin]

Yes.

[severe moon]

Sweet had to start a new account twoo my old one was hacked thanks for the advice

[opaque ruin]

No problem.

[hybrid ore]

Lvl 3 and Lvl 4 Control Points actually have the same blueprint loot pool, and you only get 1 for completing 1 CP either way.
The main difference between the two is that Lvl 4 are harder+more XP (Heroic vs Challenging difficulty) and have Named Enemies spawning at the end of each "wave", so it's good for loot farming, since Named Items are guaranteed.

[opaque ruin]

Do you get the blueprint from the chest on Lvl 3?

[iron tide]

what counts as a decent loop?

[hybrid ore]

It's the same loot pool: so yes.

[opaque ruin]

I only farmed 4s so I never checked.

[hybrid ore]

@iron tide Kill the boss room.

[iron tide]

oof

[hybrid ore]

So not Nemesis, just the room that spawns after a few with a boss in it.

[iron tide]

wait the nemisis boss oh ok

[opaque ruin]

Oh okay. I thought I had heard someone say you get the completion blueprint on 3 and not the one from the chest. On 4 you get both. Good to know it's on both 3 and 4.

[iron tide]

was about to say how the H can that be a medium time quest

[small spear]

no not the nemesis, it's the one after the 4 rooms which we call the boss room

[opaque ruin]

The Arena Boss.

[hybrid ore]

I need an echo emote.

[opaque ruin]

Nemesis shows up once you've built up enough heat from completing rooms.

[iron tide]

thats why i said ohn

[opaque ruin]

And inexplicably has a restorer hive when I myself don't have a hive at all.

[small spear]

he takes a random skill if you have a skill that he can't use

like he never uses pulse or revive hive for example

[opaque ruin]

He can use riot foam, but somehow had a restorer hive.

[small spear]

what's your other skill?

[opaque ruin]

None.

[small spear]

yeah then he randomizes

[opaque ruin]

Just the foam.

[small spear]

he has to have 2 skills

you picking one or none doesn't mean he will have none, his skills would be randomized in these cases

[opaque ruin]

Oh okay. Then I'll make sure to choose something less annoying next time so he can't randomly get one like that.

[hybrid ore]

I think they go for a blinder firefly, so that might be a good option to take if you get a firefly.

[opaque ruin]

I figured he'd randomize if I didn't pick one at all. I figured he'd only use the one I did choose, though. Like I'll typically use the decoy or foam and that's it.

[hybrid ore]

There's a guide somewhere on which to take for the easiest time, but it's not pinned so

[small spear]

yeah i guess the insight here is he always uses 2

[opaque ruin]

Yeah now I know.

[lavish relic]

pvp in this game is something

[kind veldt]

gives me feeling that most of battles are solved before they even start

[steep flume]

Question

[kind veldt]

answer?

[jagged prism]

probably wanted to spam this channel begging for a boost on Xbox

least that's how i read this message in #ask-td2-community #ask-td2-community message

[humble sparrow]

will always say it, with how much people sit around and ask for boosts and stuff, they would just finish the story and get to 40 if they just, played lol

seens people in other games spend days on days asking, instead of just playing

[north elm]

so you lose all your eggs when you logout!?!?!?!?!??!

i have 2 now.

w t f is juice

[royal drum]

when did u log out?

[jagged prism]

yeah, probably the same thing that happens when some kind of reset happens. people will be pluggin a way at it only to notice their double digit eggs are back to single digits or just a smaller 2 digits

[north elm]

RIP

now i just can't be bothered to do it lol

[eager oar]

currently leveling a new character im level 11, can you get the honey badger at this level? just the specialized one not unique?

[jagged prism]

welcome to div 2 XD

[north elm]

haha

i'm also guessing they patched out the loot goblin infini spawn

😦 it is not my day

[jagged prism]

what do you mean?

i always manage to get him to spawn at DZ south enterance (big door icon)

[north elm]

the loot goblin that is by Jefferson

one of the yt'ers did a thing on it. and it was working but it isn't now

[jagged prism]

i'm doing that now. spawn him, loot him, relog

[sand crypt]

are there times when specific loot cant be targeted?

[jagged prism]

1. Fast Travel to DZ South Main Enterance
   2.You'll be facing the door turn left and if your minimap doesn't do the red glow he won't spawn near, head north a bit and still no red log off, log on and try again

[jagged prism]

countdown/summit can't seem to target loot yahl and system corruption

[sand crypt]

trying to find heartbreaker, but i dont see it anywhere

[kind veldt]

there are more loot type/brands than there are missions/zones, so sometimes it can just not be anywhere

thats when you got ot countdown or summit since you can choose

[sand crypt]

ah ty, which one is easier for solo

[kind veldt]

countdown has matchmaking and very popular due the sheer amount of loot it drops

[jagged prism]

summit is probably the solo version since you can take your time
countdown you can solo on normal but you're rushed

[kind veldt]

just go there and matchmake for challenging would be my advice

just stay close to the bigger group and dont use skills like turrets and drones

[sand crypt]

cool, thanks, its been a long time since ive played this haha

[hexed depot]

Hell ya reveal event on the 23rd

Gonna be peak

[last spade]

is legendary tidal faster than 10 floors summit?

i need some bighorn farm

[lunar hare]

no

you need to:

1. Get to F10/20...
2. Kill some NPC's to get the boss out
3. Kill the boss BUT leave some NPC's alive
4. Throw Decoy to draw attention to it and loot the boss
5. Travel to Lobby
6. Repeat

You need to kill Legendary Bosses, not Legendary elites

[last spade]

wait wdym travel to lobby

[lunar hare]

open the map and fast travel to lobby or whatever it says (not DC)

[kind veldt]

if you kill everything the floor will be considered clear but the boss wont refresh his drops

[last spade]

so each time a boss respawns he can drop the same stuff again?

i mean not the same but get another chance

[lunar hare]

yeah

that's basically how to farm f10

[last spade]

oh wow

pretty nuts

[jagged prism]

you can even go 1-10 on normal difficulty. don't leave the elevator and fast travel back to lobby and set the challenge and stuff the go back in at floor 10 with new difficulty set

[fresh heron]

I'm currently going through the legacy manhunts to get comms.

I thought Recruiter was gonna be bad but [ Reign of Fire ] already making me feel bad

[jagged prism]

i forget what was in those, but there were some that really frustrated me on heroic, sure i could drop it to challenging or even normal, but my pride was like "i'll get this done on heroic" and kept it there XD

[fresh heron]

Its the robodog that chases you with a flamethrower and firebombs

[kind veldt]

funtimes for sure

[jagged prism]

wait for the others and you'll be like that was pleasant compared to these!

[fresh heron]

My suffermaxxing never stops, even though I only play on normal

But, at least for now, the highest level of difficulty I can compare to is Recruiter (which I haven't done yet) or... the most painful, Paradise Lost solo (my arse ain't getting past the barricade)

[jagged prism]

if i got a build that makes most heroic stuff easy i tend to try to complete most at heroic as much as possible
then again i've played div 2 back when they did something of a beta run on it. taken a couple breaks and more recently only came back to finish the weekly manhunts

[empty ivy]

Hey I’m new what chat am I supposed to use to find friends to play with

[feral mural]

Oh my god

Don't remind me of that god damn dog

[fresh heron]

I've gotta play with that dog 6 more times...

[feral mural]

I managed to get through that mission on heroic by sheer refusal to give up

I died 8 times and got too angry to try it again later 😭

[kind veldt]

i usually do them on challenging first time around

for some reason it was on heroic

i was feeling very confused how i was doing so bad

[sour void]

We talking about Cerberus in the Keener rescue mission?

[fresh heron]

No, the flamey robodog from Reign of Fire

[steep flume]

Can sumbody help me finish my character

[kind veldt]

you are looking to matchmake you better use the right channels such as #lfg-pc

[steep flume]

Xbox not pc

[sour void]

Ah, Sparkles - Satan's Hellhound

[kind veldt]

Then go to #lfg-xbox , with all roles it's hard to guess

[last spade]

i love it how im stil geting insant groups at 5 am

[kind veldt]

dang

[last spade]

in countdown

[azure lintel]

do you need gamepass play division 2 on solo

[lunar hare]

only multiplayer stuff

[azure lintel]

I heard need it on solo to

[lunar hare]

no you don't

[azure lintel]

ok thanks

[azure lintel]

so players won't show up in lobbies if don't have it

[lunar hare]

they do, you just can't matchmake or make groups or whatever

[azure lintel]

oh ok

[lavish relic]

gang

how do i get st elmos

[lunar hare]

countdown AR TL

[lavish relic]

is that better than farming a summit boss floor

[hybrid ore]

@lavish relic Depending on how fast you are with Summit, it's about even.

[lavish relic]

idk how fast ill be my build is aight

like 4 mil dps with big horn heartbreaker set

[lunar hare]

you have to hit heads with bighorn and fyi that weapon is more of a PvP gun more than PvE

[lavish relic]

it does pretty fine

its the main exotic i use but i wanna switch to st elmos

i just need to get one first

[humble sparrow]

elmos is fun

i need to farm up a blue core strikers set for a tankier build using chameleon

[hybrid ore]

It's worth noting that in div2, Exotics are not exactly an "upgrade" so to speak, from high-end guns, more like a side-grade, depending on the build.
Same with gear.

[lavish relic]

fully ramped im at like a mil per shot in full auto which is a good bit better than everything else i have

[humble sparrow]

Im just waiting and praying for Lexington to come back again so i can grab that lol

[hybrid ore]

It's planned, in a "planned to be planned" kinda way. But they have confirmed that it's happening.

[humble sparrow]

cuz thats the gun i really wanna run with strikers full red

[hybrid ore]

In the meantime, a lot of other high-end AR's with a good talent will do very well, and of course don't forget to bring a stacking-up gun.

[humble sparrow]

Yeah, i keep a acs with me, and still have the police m4 i built for it too

elmos is just tons of fun solo for the free cc on chonkers

since i dont run banshee pulse

really need to run something else beside the repair drone, since it barely heals for shit lol

[hybrid ore]

I'm a fan of the Jammer Pulse when I'm fighting any faction with deployable tech, but even something like the Demo Firefly is not a bad choice.
And of course there's always the old standard of "TDI kard + Reviver hive" when in a group, so you get 2 charges out of it.

[humble sparrow]

that kard is something i need to farm one day

few things in dz i need to farm tbh, im just not much of a dz enjoyer lol

[hybrid ore]

It's a shame it only works when you are physically holding it in your hand, so if you go down, you don't get the 2 charges.

Oh another personal favourite: riot foam. Just trap a spawn from spreading out and then you won't even need the ACS to stack.

[humble sparrow]

Riot foam is goated

Really wish i hadnt kept just, not playing over the years

kept waiting for friends to play, but they kept not playing, so i kept quitting lol

Cant wait for the x3 xp event in a few weeks

[fresh heron]

Alrighty. Got all collectables for Reign of Fire. I got no need to go to Coney anymore

[iron tide]

i dont know what it is but when i sometimes look at the map it will zip to make the map lookoff the table and when it does that i loose all controls cant to map shoot bring up any menu all i can do is move myslef

ok i can shoot but not the menu stuff

[jagged prism]

no no, you gotta go back and be a true gamer and finish it on heroic (> <)

[dry gate]

I'm a bit confused.. what is banshee mentioned in Gunner specialization? I can't find it.. is it a skill or what?

[jagged prism]

pulse skill

[dry gate]

ah it's a subskill

duh.. i just realized why people use striker vest.. it's the double stacks.. damn it

no wonder I wasn't hitting as hard as i see people do

[jagged prism]

nah, striker chest is good for things like the raid,incursion and legendary missions where you'll reach that 200.
open world/missions you won't get 200 or maintain that 200 stack

[dry gate]

well it's still more damage even if you don't reach 200 no?

[molten spire]

^most enemies in most missions will die before you get 200 stacks even with an ACS-12

not necessarily, if you can't, a chest damage talent will be more consistent

[dry gate]

isn't it like 0.6% per stack?

[jagged prism]

you can give it a try and see for yourself but in general you'll never hit 200 or even over 100

basically, even if you hit over 100 stacks, by the time you run to the next room, you're below 100 again and that'll pretty much where you'll stay

[dry gate]

I see

I'm better off getting a bit creative with ninja backpack.. my biggest thing now is armor regen..

[humble sparrow]

obliterate chest is much more consistent damage for normal play with strikers

[dry gate]

yeah I have to farm for better crit chance/crit damage setup

oblitarate makes more sense with that

[jagged prism]

other server someone was mentioning rpm with 4 strikers on an Ouroboros. Told them nah if you want some serious RPM, 3 umbra, 2 striker ninja bag. take cover build stacks leave cover and watch your mag empty quickly

[humble sparrow]

too much rpm lol

[jagged prism]

ngl, i've probably had some hits never register

[dry gate]

if I set crit chance/damage with striker, on paper in my mind seems like chamelon sounds really tempting.. 70% more crit damage.. I just got a few exotics today playing

chameleon, st. elmos, ninja bag and another one can't remember

[fresh heron]

Hell nah. Heroic ain't for me. I ain't got them hero skills nor the belief of competency when it comes to min-maxxing builds and weaponry

[humble sparrow]

high end police mp4 would do you just as good as chameleon

its why i cant wait for lexington to come back, put killer on it and it shreds

[dry gate]

I just freakin' love Stoner.. I put on 18% more damage talent on it with stability/accuracy penalty and you don't even feel it.. the only downside is rpm

but still 200 mag.. and when I turn on overdrive it melts the whole room.

[jagged prism]

killer is more crit damage off crit kills?

[humble sparrow]

Yeah

[dry gate]

what's rpm on lexington?

[humble sparrow]

pretty easy to keep up with a crit strikers

Lexington is an 850 base

Damn near even stats with st elmos

[jagged prism]

i currently have strained on my lexington

[dry gate]

is it a named gun with the perfect talent? which talent is it?

I know you can't get it now.. i saw

[jagged prism]

nah, just a named gun i believe

[humble sparrow]

You can put any talent on Lexington

they just give it out perfectly rolled

[dry gate]

ok so it's type of AR not named item.. got it

[dry gate]

ah

[humble sparrow]

Nah, its named

[jagged prism]

it's named alright Lexington

[humble sparrow]

just not a named with a perfect talent

[dry gate]

right right 🙂

[humble sparrow]

its special attribute for being named is 5% increased dmg

[dry gate]

it's not gold named

[humble sparrow]

No, its gold named lol

[undone timber]

It differs from other named items in that it's special perk is that it has increased base damage

[dry gate]

how can you then change the talent?

[humble sparrow]

not all named weapons have a perfect talent

[dry gate]

OH

[undone timber]

Like any other gun lol

[jagged prism]

think of the Handbasket MMR from easter it's like that

[humble sparrow]

some have a super attribute, like The White Death

[undone timber]

Its similar to white death

[humble sparrow]

White Death gets a ton more headshot dmg

[dry gate]

I've noticed.. what confused me is that sometimes when I go to tinker I can't change the perfect talent already on named weapon

[jagged prism]

at first they were only giving us named items with a perfect talent on it
but lately they started to change that up

[humble sparrow]

or The Harvest. Names revolver with a lot of bonus damage, and way less rpm than others

[hybrid ore]

You can't change Perfect Talents.

It's why Named Items are not always superior. One reason anyway.

[undone timber]

You can't change perfect talents

[jagged prism]

i'd say white death is an exception to that XD

[undone timber]

But some named items don't come with them so you can reroll the talent

[dry gate]

yeah I noticed.. that's why I use regular Stoner instead of named one.. suppressing enemy doesn't do much instead of 18% flat damage with other talent

[hybrid ore]

Similar to the the Rock+Roll, which also has a "perfect" stat instead.

[dry gate]

that's the shotty right?

[undone timber]

Rock and roll has perfect extra

Increased mag size as a talent

[hybrid ore]

It's perfectly extra to use it.

[humble sparrow]

I need to farm one of those one of these days

[jagged prism]

dz right?

[dry gate]

I get St. Elmos being great with shock.. but I still feel my stoner hits much harder .. not sure how much that shock helps me overall.. I'd rather have damage

[undone timber]

Elmo is king of sustained

[hybrid ore]

Shock Ammo is fairly worthless, it's why we say Elmo is a mid-high end AR, not a high-high end one.

[humble sparrow]

yep

[undone timber]

And having free crowd control is great

[humble sparrow]

free crowd control against heavies is massive increased dps

[hybrid ore]

I mean, not really?

Shoot the belt.

[dry gate]

I know but wouldn't it be better to do striker with ninja and turmoil knees with harder hitting LMG or AR.. that should work wonders on crowd control too?

[hybrid ore]

Oh god no.

[humble sparrow]

rpm is king

[undone timber]

Pls no

[fresh heron]

I gotta say though, the pulse emp helped wonders since all the enemies are robots

[hybrid ore]

If the question involves the Ninjabag and the question isn't "why isn't it worth more exotic components to compensate for it being actively harmful to builds", the answer is wrong.

[dry gate]

hahah. why dislike for it.. it's such a useful bag from what I read on it 🙂

[fresh heron]

^

[humble sparrow]

Because you dont need it

[hybrid ore]

I'll let @lunar hare take this one.

[jagged prism]

you lose a damage talent

[undone timber]

It's trash

[dry gate]

and it has a cool name.. I had a Ninja bike a few years ago 🙂

[humble sparrow]

And the backpack talents you can use are insanely more valuable

[undone timber]

You lose a bag talent for a bunch of brandset bonuses

[jagged prism]

i'm not a fan of memento but at least collecting trophies for it you get something out of it

[dry gate]

so what does memento do?

[undone timber]

Memento in comparison is insanely good

[hybrid ore]

Memento's "long buff", is actually stronger than a lot of active backpack talents, its kinda crazy OP.

[humble sparrow]

kills drop token. pick up token to get more dmg, more armor, and skill efficient

[dry gate]

it sucks i can't read their descriptions on crafting bench

[jagged prism]

ninja is just more of a "hey let's try doing something with it" but in actual reallity you're just nerfing your build

[hybrid ore]

"long buff" here meaning "only getting trophies every now and then".

[undone timber]

^ somehow more slept on than ninja for whatever reason

[dry gate]

I would think that being able to proc 2 full set bonuses would be OP

[humble sparrow]

memento gets 30 stakcs, giving you 1% gun dmg, 1% skill efficiency, and .1% armor regen per stack for 300s

[hybrid ore]

@undone timber As long as it helps it avoid a nerf, I am fine with that.

[dry gate]

ooohhh.. that's actually nice

[humble sparrow]

and you get short term bonuses based on number of cores you have

[hybrid ore]

I have no idea how Memento wasn't nerfed like 3 years ago, but be happy it hasn't.

[undone timber]

It was good in the first game

But with how busted some bag talents are in this one it's not worth

[hybrid ore]

^Ninjabag made sense in div1, where you could wear 6 exotics at once and 6 pieces of a gearset was a good idea.

[jagged prism]

i'd rather they give it the doctor home trophy mechanic. you know you get a kill you automatically collect a trophy

[hybrid ore]

That would 100% get it a nerf.

[humble sparrow]

Talents are the power here lol

[jagged prism]

now if they had the ninja bag drop with a backpack talent tied to it. it might be worth something

[dry gate]

can you keep refreshing memento stacks as you go?

[kind veldt]

Yeah

Whenever you get a new throphy

[humble sparrow]

As long as you get kills, memento is infinite

[undone timber]

Long buffs are like 5 minutes it's basically impossible to run out normally

[dry gate]

I have to say.. I played countdown the other day.. first time.. wow that is the only activity you need and it's super fun!!!

although someone told me about the farming method for exotics on floor 90 of Summit..

[humble sparrow]

i get bored super fast running countdown lol

[jagged prism]

i was bored of countdown when they released it XD

[dry gate]

Summit was fun for me.. it's one of those activities you can play a few floors or whatever and then take a break.. I like that a lot

[humble sparrow]

i struggle to do 3 runs of countdown before im ready for literally anything else

[jagged prism]

did you partake in the hunter farming in countdown? go in kill hunters then leave? (> <)

[dry gate]

I can see it can get tedious after a while.. it's 20 mins and it's intense.. I played it on challenging with matchmaking.. for me it was a blast.. but I can see it become boring just doing that indeed

[humble sparrow]

Nope. Only been back in game for a few weeks lol

only been running countdown for like, 2 weeks maybe

[dry gate]

I mean I feel people who played this game for years.. for me it's all fresh hahah.. I'm like a kid in a candy store

[jagged prism]

when i played it in pts, i was like bad idea devs. people will run it just to kill the hunters

[dry gate]

I felt the same way with Destiny after 7 years and then new folks come in

[hybrid ore]

That's why they removed drops from the starting Hunters, fun fact.

but gave double to the end ones.

[dry gate]

so the 2 or whatever hunters at the beginning they don't drop anything?

[humble sparrow]

just optimization mats

[undone timber]

Tags and assorted crafting mats

[dry gate]

good to know

[jagged prism]

i know, only took them what a year?

[hybrid ore]

Less.

[dry gate]

so people were just farming hunters?

[undone timber]

I'd assume so

[humble sparrow]

much more optimal that way lol

takes way less time too

[dry gate]

so how about this summit 90th floor thing?

[jagged prism]

hunters tend to drop godrolls if they were good stuff

[dry gate]

is that a thing still?

[undone timber]

God bless the ole Amherst's apartment legendary

[undone timber]

Yes and no

[humble sparrow]

Lexington Event Center runs, all day lol

[hybrid ore]

101 runs to get her Exotic.

[undone timber]

Nowhere near as broken as it was before the patch but is still occasionally used for farming target loot

[hybrid ore]

I can still feel that elevator trip, taking up a significant portion of my life.

[dry gate]

I saw a video mentioning it's a great exotic farm on 90th floor since there are 3 bosses

and the higher the floor the better chance of a drop

[hybrid ore]

90 is great! You just don't get the XP from doing it, only the loot.

[undone timber]

Nah countdown for exotics

Its guaranteed every other run plus all the extra loot on top

[dry gate]

wait.. exotic is guaranteed every time on countdown?

I didn't get one I think

it was on challenging though

[hybrid ore]

It's not guaranteed, Naval is saying that you can buy an Exotic Cache from the CD (countdown) vendor every 2-3 runs.

[humble sparrow]

Yeah

[dry gate]

ahhh got it

[humble sparrow]

Its how i been trying to farm pestilence lol

[hybrid ore]

It's random, but hey, free Exotic Components.

[dry gate]

how about those "snitches" across the city.. are they worth for buying exotic caches?

how does that work?

[undone timber]

I hear prio objectives are also pretty good for exotic farming too

[dry gate]

I found one snitch

[undone timber]

Snitch only tells you where Cassie is

But she doesn't sell caches

Danny weaver is the one that sells caches for textiles

[hybrid ore]

Cassie and Danny now, of course.

[jagged prism]

was about to say. don't forget danny XD

[dry gate]

textiles are gotten from the apparel duplicate stuff right?

[undone timber]

I keep forgetting he exists

[jagged prism]

yes

[hybrid ore]

It's kinda funky, but basically the Snitch tells you where they are going to be, but not necessarily for quite a few hours.
They're open at the same time for everyone.

[undone timber]

Man really fell off ever since they patched the god roll bug

[jagged prism]

you get a pair of boots opening the apparel caches. then a few more times the same boots shows up you get textiles for it instead

[dry gate]

yeah I think I saw.. 60 or something textile per duplicate

how much is the exotic cache to buy?

[hybrid ore]

500?

You'll have thousands before too long, dw

[humble sparrow]

224 from coutndown i believe

[jagged prism]

not sure if the amount is same for each, could be different between, blue, light green, gold i think?

[dry gate]

oh nice.. I have over 1000 textile..

[humble sparrow]

oh, textiles. no idea

[hybrid ore]

I think it's 500 Textiles, but it's an extra expense that is only really for those of us with 20k +

Just do Priority Objectives with Exotics as a reward. Super quick. Same loot pool.

[dry gate]

i mean I'm a begger now for exotics.. though I'll say I feel they are coming at a pretty fairly fast pace.. I got like 5-6 exotics in last 2 days

just playing the game, priority objectives, journey, etc

[hybrid ore]

Super quick these days, you'll need a lot, but you get a looooooooooooooooot.

[humble sparrow]

exotics way easier to get these days

[dry gate]

I mean the journey gives out alone like 7-8 chests

and that's without the SHD weekly mats and priorities

I already got a few good exotics I can use

[humble sparrow]

yeah, we didnt have that back in the beginning of the game. miserable trying to farm exotics

[dry gate]

now I have to make 3 more agents and boost them so I can get double

can I transfer the mats to the other characters via Indya to buy them?

the SHD weekly stuff?

[humble sparrow]

mats are account shared. you just have to get to 30 and buy it from the vendor

[lunar hare]

can't help rn, running IH atm

[hybrid ore]

Go kill that train, or capture it, whatever IH is these days.

I'm picturing that bit in Final Fantasy where the guy bodyslams it.

[humble sparrow]

good ole suplexing doom train

ff6

[jagged prism]

which one was that?

[hybrid ore]

Suplex, that's it!

I've let the 90's down.

[jagged prism]

thanks. i know i played that a long time ago but i don't remember that 🤔

[humble sparrow]

Its one of my least favorite ff games lol

[dry gate]

the funny part is I work with Square Enix and I never played Final Fantasy

[hybrid ore]

If anyone ever tells you modern anime is too dumb, remember this.

[dry gate]

not a single game

[jagged prism]

lately i've noticed some kind of pattern with modern day anime

[hybrid ore]

Shame it'll remain a mystery.

[humble sparrow]

Solo Leveling only modern anime you need

[modern halo]

What’s the best way to level up expertise? It feels like an eternity

[jagged prism]

can't say i remember that though 🤔 maybe i had a different set of 3?

[jagged prism]

truthfully?

[hybrid ore]

Over a great amount of time.
It's not meant to be rushed, and the bonuses are less useful than you probbaly think.

[modern halo]

Already sounds bad lol

[humble sparrow]

its meant to be a slow, long term grind

[hybrid ore]

tl;dr on Expertise: You know when a kid is making a fuss, you put on the TV and distract them? That, but stats in div2.

[humble sparrow]

craft spamming and just giga target farming is really the only way to do it

[jagged prism]

1 method is if you're over 1500 shd think you'll have 1k points to put into scavenging points. so you level all 4 agents to 40 and use the shared resources and blue prints from your main to your 3 mules and use them points on printer filaments

[hybrid ore]

If you really, really, really want that extra few % of base weapon damage, then Countdown TL farm.
That'll boost up your Proficiency in stuff.

[humble sparrow]

otherwise, just let it ride, and turn in stuff as you get it

[dry gate]

what is the highest bonus on the weapons for example.. they must be fairly small.. I got my Stoner as I played with it almost exclusively for a long time and it went up only like 1% in weapon damage

[humble sparrow]

its 1% per expertise level

[hybrid ore]

It's not even 1% in damage, that's the crazy part.
It's 1% of the base weapon damage, before red cores.

[jagged prism]

depends on your expertise level and how much you spend on upgrading the weapon

[undone timber]

I think we're up to either 27 or 28 max

[humble sparrow]

28

[jagged prism]

even with turmoil and handbasket. still 28

[dry gate]

okay.. so it is worth it working only on the ones you love using

[hybrid ore]

hah, nailed it.

[humble sparrow]

thats what djtickle has his stuff up to

[hybrid ore]

That is the worst channel name ever.

[undone timber]

Pretty much

[hybrid ore]

was "DJgetinmyvan" taken?

[undone timber]

It has more of an effect in the DZ and on headhunter weapons

[jagged prism]

i'm 6k+ watch level and i don't remember how many times i leveled my watch mules and i just barely hit 27

[humble sparrow]

im not even watch 500 XD

[dry gate]

watch is capped right? you guys leveled every stat on all 4 of them right?

[jagged prism]

once 1k you keep going buddy

[humble sparrow]

Its infinite lol

[hybrid ore]

@dry gate You get all stats maxed out at Lvl 1k, and a tiny health boost which caps out at 2k.
after that it's all scavenging materials.

[dry gate]

so you can still keep putting points into weapon damage for example?

[humble sparrow]

you just only get scav points

[dry gate]

ah got it

[jagged prism]

only upto your max of expertise level which is 28 atm

[hybrid ore]

The health boost used to be infinite, but MSV capped it.
That was a fun day with the people who were overdoing it to have an advantage in PvP.

[humble sparrow]

the actual core stats from watch cap out at 50 levels per

[dry gate]

I meant the stats.. I'm guessing you are referring to the rewards?

right right

[jagged prism]

the 5th option where you chose materials or ecredits

[hybrid ore]

Basically, it's 1 point in each tree, and the 5th point is in Scavenging.
So your watch actually ends at Lvl 999, but "1k" is easier to say.

[dry gate]

ok.. so what do you guys pick? money now?

or mats?

[jagged prism]

me, i was choosing printer filaments to put into expertise

[hybrid ore]

Credits are good with it, you can buy Skill Mods to deconstruct for Printer Filament.
but whatever you need, basically.
a fresh Mule is easy enough to farm.

Just don't try to make mules before Lvl 1500 or higher, higher is better of course.

[jagged prism]

1500 gives 1k scavenging point or no, 550?

can't math that atm XD

[dry gate]

I'm confused with the mules 1500.. what does that mean? don't make new agents?

"Just don't try to make mules before Lvl 1500 or higher, higher is better of course."

[jagged prism]

mules are the other 3 agents

[dry gate]

so i should not make them now and boost them to 40? I want them for exotics really.

[jagged prism]

you see. you play your main to get to say 1500 shd as a goal
once at 1500 you do decide "i wnat to level 3 more agents" you create 3 more agents. get them to 40 and once you hit 40 get that watch
you then go visit inaya and buy the shared resource and blueprint

then you proceed to use all your points in scavenging for resources. skip the ecredits on mules unless you want to buy things and transfer them to your main kind of thing

[dry gate]

I'm following you.. but I'm unsure why to wait for shd 1500? Can I not just make the new characters now and get the mats from my main and just buy those exotic packages for weekly SHD mat donation?

[jagged prism]

you can if you want
it's just below 1500 shd the scavenging points isn't that great to get materials

[humble sparrow]

you wait to 1500 basically just for alts whose only purpose are to give you the scav mats

you can make alts to play, or for any other reason at any time

[dry gate]

oh so you guys are saying I can use the same watch on other characters and then bank in those points into scavangae materials?

[humble sparrow]

mules are just there as an insane way to get tons of mats

[dry gate]

is SHD level shared across new agents?

[jagged prism]

if you want to get into that aspect of using alts for the exotic shd donation and what not.
you can do that when you want to run say Dark hours to get 4 chances of getting the eagle bearer kind of thing too, but you'd need to farm up builds for those alts

[jagged prism]

yes, once you level your 3 agents on your account you get to 40 grab the watch the new agents has whatever shd level your main has

[dry gate]

ah that's what you were saying

so when i put that watch on.. I get all the points like i did on my main.. but all at once on the new agent

so you bank in all those points into scavange for mats?

[jagged prism]

yes. wish i could do the gif of Ice Cube was it in Friday where he was high and just nodded his head and said Yes

[dry gate]

hahah.. I'll see when I make new agents.. you can always delete an agent right?

[jagged prism]

yes, if you want to go that route of expertising your stuff

[dry gate]

gotcha

[jagged prism]

delete and recreate as much as you want upto 4 per account

[dry gate]

my goal right now.. is just to use the mats I get on my main character and just use the alternate agents to get weekly SHD exotic cache

so i can farm the easy exotics every week

[jagged prism]

🤔 i'm surprised they didn't just have us use premium credits to buy more stash space or more character slots. probably would've made bank XD

[dry gate]

usually it's an issue of memory and back-end bandwith rather than money

they probably already pushed the max on 400 for stash for example too.

[jagged prism]

probably
but yeah i know it's probably drive space, memory and bandwidth all at once for 1k accounts out there

[dry gate]

hahah.. true.. but the game once had a lot .. they design for scale and also don't forget consoles

[jagged prism]

nods why i said over 1k accounts out there
counting PC, Xbox and PS

[dry gate]

true yah.. don't forget though they designed the game for consoles from 7 years ago. They were severely limited with memory and other aspects of it. Not defending anything just know why most of these things are tailored as they are. Destiny had this issue, Outriders, Diablo.. they are all capped..

but hey.. Div 3 will have more for sure 🙂

I remember, 10 years ago, I was making triple hunters to run Vault of Glass 4 times a week 🙂

[jagged prism]

eh, i doubt consoles are that much better yet

can they be? sure, but i doubt a console player will pay 1k+ for a console with better performance

[dry gate]

well by the time div 3 comes out we are looking probably at next gen but they will probably optimize for PS5 and Xbox X/S

which have much better memory architecture and more memory

Div 2 was probably made for previous gen stuff too.. which was tight.. Outriders had only 100 slots in stash for example and limit of 5 or 6 characters. Destiny 2 had 4 characters and 500 items in stash

[wide briar]

@jagged prism lol I got the ps5 and that price point was nuts. It goes higher time to build a pc!

[jagged prism]

just looked at PS5
spec wise looks to be on a low budget gaming machine

[wide briar]

Oh yeah compared to a good pc very limited

[dry gate]

it's still good enough for better optimization.. I have PS5 and Xbox S/X here.. I'll probably get a dev kit as well for my game this year. I'll tell you then 🙂

[wide briar]

Most people don’t have the knowledge for ability to build a good gaming pc.

[jagged prism]

from what i read on Wiki PS5 has 16 GB memory so that tells me a low budget gaming machine

[wide briar]

No way more memory

[dry gate]

right that's still double what they had on prev gen.. so some space there

[jagged prism]

dunno
The console has 16 GB of GDDR6 SDRAM with a peak bandwidth of 448 GB/s
straight from the wiki about memory

[wide briar]

Mine has just under 800 gb plus 2 tb internal storage

But games take up massive space so your forced into buying the internal memory space

[dry gate]

yeah PS4 had 8gb, that's what they optimized Div 2 for probably consoles.. I think even with DLCs and expansions I can imagine they weren't really up to modifying the whole underlying stuff with accounts and stash and all that stuff (considering it's still using the same engine).. the game is packed as it is with so much stuff already I'm actaully shocked how they managed to optimize this all to work on consoles

[jagged prism]

well, memory and storage are 2 different things in a pc

[wide briar]

If I could go back would’ve went the pc route

[jagged prism]

if a console had 800 GB memory that woudl probably be more memory than a super computer at this point XD

[wide briar]

Tell you in a sec

[dry gate]

ok.. question about the game. What is a good measuring stick for me to consider I'm ready for the raid?

[humble sparrow]

depends on the raid

[dry gate]

I'll start with Dark Hours

[jagged prism]

depends on which raid honestly
Dark hours is more a DPS check throughout. as long as you're good at listening to order and killing things it'll be easy

[dry gate]

I mean when should i be like.. ok my build is solid to go into raid and not embarass myself?

[humble sparrow]

DH being out so long, means most active people running it have the spawns memorized, so yeah, its just dps where you are told to dps

[wide briar]

Says 667.2 gb storage then another 1tb storage from what I dropped in

[dry gate]

when I'm doing heroic with ease?

[jagged prism]

yeah, storage is different from memory
storage things stay there permanently until you decide to delete it
memory is more like it loads up parts of the games world and erases it after you pass through. least that's how i see how it work. nothing stays on memory

[humble sparrow]

storage is how much you can store. Ram/memory is how much you can run at once and maintain optimal speeds

[jagged prism]

well, around now you can probably get in a raid group and have 4-6 good players that'll just carry you and others with little interaction in it

[humble sparrow]

more ram, means you run faster

[wide briar]

@jagged prism forgot about cloud storage also either way pc next no ps6

[jagged prism]

cloud storage just gets messier XD

[dry gate]

right.. I'm not necessarily looking to get carried.. I do want to have fun and kill stuff.. I just want to learn encounters and stuff.. if that makes sense

[humble sparrow]

games, especially modern ones, tend to run heavier on ram these days because of all the particle effects, and shit going on on screen, combined with how much better things look

[wide briar]

Don’t use it, only game I have on console storage is division two everything else is an internal hard drive. Not that I ever play anything else but

[jagged prism]

oh i figured, just saying now a days probably can have 4-6 good veteran players just do things and you're just kind of there
you can still dps ads and what not, but in the end you might feel like "i was there, but i did nothing!"

[dry gate]

just a note about the effects and stuff.. this is all on GPU and vram these days.. most of it is offloaded to GPU memory for textures and calculations.. the ram is used for inner workings of the UI, the logic of the game, level loading etc.

[jagged prism]

so i wasn't off about how memory worked. least from a pc memory standpoint

[humble sparrow]

Yeah, thats what i was meaning

idk what i was on about

[jagged prism]

maybe i tripped you up? XD

[humble sparrow]

probably just tired. only on 3 hours of sleep

[dry gate]

when does Div 2 reset weekly.. on tuesday?

[humble sparrow]

tuesday

[jagged prism]

probably depends which reset too XD

or did they put everything on reset to tuesday?

[humble sparrow]

clan cache reset is thursday i believe

its really weird. idk why they couldnt just have everything on the same day

[jagged prism]

raid keys is wednesday?

[dry gate]

lol that's wild.. why would they time it like that.. so funny

[humble sparrow]

That i wouldnt know, never did a raid

[jagged prism]

thought i read someone say it reset on wednesday. can we search for phrases like that on discord?

[humble sparrow]

yeah, in the search bar

[wide briar]

Tuesday for keys

[dry gate]

so if I join a clan with like 10 members or something.. everyone playing is contributing to some rewards for the whole clan right?

[jagged prism]

ah, looked up raid reset and it shows tuesdays

[pliant sentinel]

do u still get handbasket if u do the project

[jagged prism]

if you're on day 7

also drops from loot goblin apparently

[jagged prism]

you got 600 + eggs left to collect for the handbasket

event ends on the 22nd

[dry gate]

I finished my eggs today.. finally

[pliant sentinel]

loot goblin loot is too diluted so im doing the project

[dry gate]

oh @jagged prism I actually met the goblin on the street.. I now know what you meant.. he's a cocky little guy that shoots a pistol at you and yells

lol

[jagged prism]

nods saw someone post a video of them picking it up after killing the goblin

yeah, they introduced us to him one christmas
dropped the sleigher Tommy gun and the Chill out mask, maybe the oh carol? or was oh carol a 2nd christmas event?

[wide briar]

Yes, key reset for dark hours in Iron Horse is definitely Tuesday. I had to scroll through my clan chat. I don’t know if the incursion is the same.

[dry gate]

okay so I'm looking at the spreadsheet from build advice.. I can see now why a lot of crit damage based builds are using killer talent on the gun

[undone timber]

Incursion is a day earlier

[dry gate]

I've never played incursion.. in short what is this? and how hard it is?

[undone timber]

4 player mini raid

Step up from heroic but manageable

[dry gate]

compared to countdown? harder or more mechanic heavy?

ah.. so it's above heroic

[undone timber]

Yes

There's mechanics but they're very light

[dry gate]

so I shouldn't be entertaining it until I have a solid build to plow through heroic with ease

[humble sparrow]

one day i will run incursion and raids lol

[undone timber]

Striker build is all you need

[pliant sentinel]

naval how long do u have that name

[dry gate]

my only concern is I don't have any expertises really leveled up.. my watch is still not leveled up, the only thing that I have fully leveled up is gunner

[jagged prism]

everything in the game can be done with 0 expertise level honestly

[undone timber]

Idk since the incursion released

[humble sparrow]

Nothing in the game is truly hard enough for all that extreme min maxing lol

its just there to have something to do for the long haul

just need a good head, a decent build, and just not play dumb

[jagged prism]

i think it's mostly a slight edge in DZ no?

[dry gate]

I'm watching video on youtube now they are doing roosevelt legendary.. he's killing everything with 1 shot with marksman rifle

[humble sparrow]

Its a slight edge in most content. the biggest thing is just getting your mods maxed out, or close to maxed, and just optimizing your gear

And yeah, he is probably using a hotshot, headhunter, determined build

[dry gate]

my god his marksman rifle is hitting for 30 million

[pliant sentinel]

bozz what u trying to do

[jagged prism]

be careful with those videos. some are extremely old and won't show what they're like with current stuff now

think this season or last was it? things got altered for brands/gears/weapons/talents

[humble sparrow]

last season i believe

[dry gate]

I don't know man hahaha.. just trying to get stronger.. I know I'm using now Striker build and want to be strong enough to handle heroic at least with ease.. Challenging is easy now for me but Heroic is still iffy

[jagged prism]

like the striker backpack used to be a straight 1% increase

[dry gate]

it's from a day ago

[humble sparrow]

Alot of your ability in hard content, is just knowing where things happen, and when yo use what. Game Knowledge goes an extremely long way

[jagged prism]

it's now nerfed to .9% on backpack (> <)

[pliant sentinel]

letting u know now, i did raid and flawless incursions with levl 0 expertise, so u dont have to worry about that

[dry gate]

that's good to know

so I'm just farming now all perfect attributes as much as I can

[pliant sentinel]

yup

[dry gate]

I've been grinding the game for the past 2 weeks.. I have a lot of them perfect

[jagged prism]

i did dark hours when level 30 was capped and there was no expertise
had a fun strategy for the end boss though

[humble sparrow]

Yeah, optimization of your gear, maxing out cores and attributes, goes a long way to making your build alot more powerful

[dry gate]

started getting some exotics.. finally got St. Elmos as well

[humble sparrow]

getting powerful mods covers a pretty solid amount of the rest of it.

[dry gate]

switched to shield now as it helps a lot

[humble sparrow]

aiming for things like 5.5% or higher on crit chance mods. no less than 10% on crit dmg mods etc

[dry gate]

but I really need to look which striker variant i want to go with.. there are tons of builds out there

they are similar but have their own approaches with talents

[humble sparrow]

strikers crit, with police m4 and killer. cant really go wrong with it lol

[dry gate]

that's what i realized on my build now.. I have very little crit chance/crit damage.. I have to farm for better striker gear

[jagged prism]

nods why the one on the spreadsheet gets recommended a lot

[dry gate]

and my vest is butt

[humble sparrow]

just make sure you have crit chance crit dmg attributes on all armor

obliterate chest

[jagged prism]

the spreadsheet shows 4 strikers (backpack, gloves, knees and holster) chest as ceska with obliterate and mask Coyotes mask

[dry gate]

I don't have coyotes mask.. any replacement?

[humble sparrow]

im using strikers, memento, and i think fenris chest with obliterate

but since im using elmos, i think im still at like 55 ish crit chance

[jagged prism]

and probably got your points in chc/chd on your watch maxed out?

[dry gate]

I think I might have invested points into wrong slots at first.. I went with weapon damage, armor, ammo, can't remember the last one

[humble sparrow]

Just about

[dry gate]

those were the first ones I started putting points in

you can't reset the watch to reassign points no?

[jagged prism]

nope, gotta go with it until you hit 1k watch

[humble sparrow]

yeah

[jagged prism]

@dry gate i probably went the same route you did myself honestly

[dry gate]

my god this squad is molesting this legendary on Rosevelt

[jagged prism]

that's probably the power of builds and mission knowledge

[humble sparrow]

yeah, im at 56 crit chance, 100 crit dmg atm

[dry gate]

I saw a build with striker.. 55% crit chance.. 125% crit damage

earlier today.. not on spreadsheet

[humble sparrow]

using all crit dmg mods

[jagged prism]

12% CHD mods

[dry gate]

so how do these striker builds then regenerate armor?

[jagged prism]

gunner spec

[dry gate]

if they are not using bloodsucker?

[humble sparrow]

gunner spec

[jagged prism]

btw: bloodsucker doesn't regen armor

[dry gate]

I mean my gunner spec is maxed out but armor regen on kill is sooo litlte

[humble sparrow]

gunner gives you 10% armor on kill

[dry gate]

in gameplay I feel like it doesn't replenish armor that much at all

[humble sparrow]

armor regen is different. Depending on the team, they could also have a healer around

[dry gate]

my armor is 880k

[humble sparrow]

someone running refractor can make a team nigh invincible lol

[jagged prism]

nods blood sucker only gives you bonus armor which doesn't replenish the lost armor at all unless you have armor regen on at least 1 piece of gear

[dry gate]

I do think I have 4000/s armor regen on one piece

[humble sparrow]

its why i have a refractor alt. that 35% armor recov based on skill dmg dealt is kinda nutty

[dry gate]

but yeah.. I saw some striker builds they have insane armor

and still hit like a truck

[humble sparrow]

thats just strikers lol. Blue core striker is extremely potent

because strikers and obliterate give you a massive amount of damage

[jagged prism]

nods and if you fancy it. obliterate chest with Memento and run around collecting trophies

[humble sparrow]

Thats how i roll lol

[dry gate]

no memento yet though

[jagged prism]

not even a momento? that's harsh

[humble sparrow]

913k armor currently. memento still isnt maxed out

[dry gate]

@jagged prism which spreadsheet were you looking at for those striker builds?

[jagged prism]

in #td2-build-advice pins upper right hand corner

[humble sparrow]

should be in pinned messages

[jagged prism]

click on teh sheet, then look for build Hub tab, click on that and find the red striker build to the far right of that is a link to show you 3 striker builds

[dry gate]

oh it links out to evernote page with description.. i see it

Hunters Fury set looked interesting to me earlier today when I was looking into other builds

[humble sparrow]

hunters fury is alot of fun

full blue core, lady death, memento

[jagged prism]

i saw someone on this server or other mentioning using pestilence with hunter's fury. i scatched me head on that

[humble sparrow]

fun gaming right there

[dry gate]

they recommend Gift or D&H Backpack with vigilance if you don't have memento

this is Y6 S2 build though

[jagged prism]

Gift is a DZ exclusive Backpack i believe?

we're on Y6 S3 atm

[dry gate]

yah

[humble sparrow]

the main thing is just the talent

[jagged prism]

think they put y6 s2 is to clarify that with the changes they did last season so maybe some things changed a bit. like 1 or 2 pieces

but normally those builds are extremely old 😹

like some of them could've been created during season 12 and still held up to what we do currently kind of thing

🤔 curious how a HHF turmoil build would be like?

[dry gate]

I don't know.. those turmoil knees are super OP from the time i played with it.. that thing covers a huge range of damage it spreads

[humble sparrow]

turmoil is just good fun

[jagged prism]

yes, i'm waiting until they allow us to run them speed run missions again. wanna see how i fair with them on XD

[dry gate]

so you said.. if I put crit chance on let's say 3 different pieces of gear that doesn't stack?

[jagged prism]

dod put out a video on how they're currently bugged as it's not doing a 50/50 damage transfer

[dry gate]

I don't know.. sometimes I was shooting a target and suddnely 4 guys around the target just get vaporized

it certainly wasn't transfering damage equally

[jagged prism]

🤔 wonder if i should challenge raucey with a HH/Turmoil build (> <)

[humble sparrow]

headhunters turmoil?

its op with hotshot

[jagged prism]

i can only imagine waht it would've been like with old Aces & Eights set XD

[dry gate]

do they rotate "premium for money" sets of apparel in the store?

I want to get the one that looks like breakpoint but I didn't see it

[jagged prism]

not sure what you mean about that

[dry gate]

let me see if I can find it to show you

pinged you in community

[jagged prism]

yeah, saw it. not sure which one that is

[dry gate]

i think he's using one of the "secret" masks.. but the rest of it is a part of the set I think

do they refresh the sets in the store?

[jagged prism]

no clue, believe i've gotten all the masks

[humble sparrow]

i still need to do new york hunters lol

one day

[jagged prism]

the New york one you can't see all of them very well, but far as i can tell, none matches that mask you posted

[humble sparrow]

im probably just gonna use rabbit helmet for a long time lol

[jagged prism]

the free one?

before this one i was tuck on the angry cat hat

[humble sparrow]

Yeah, its literally all i wanted out of the easter projects, so havent even gotten the second ones lol

[jagged prism]

you mean the paid set?

[humble sparrow]

No, the free one from day 1 of the projects lol

[jagged prism]

oof

[humble sparrow]

the paid one doesnt have ears

[jagged prism]

lol, i was assuming you meant you've gotten the free ones and was hoping we'd get the second fire rabbit apparel through the same method

[humble sparrow]

Nah lol

just meant that i havent gotten a single easter daily project done since the first one lol

[jagged prism]

waiting until monday to do 1400 worth of egg collections? XD

[humble sparrow]

nope

no intention of getting the rest lol. Just wanted the ears

[jagged prism]

lol XD

[humble sparrow]

im not a collector, or a 100%, or an achievement hunter, so i just grab what i want, then we move on

[jagged prism]

i actually want the handbasket XD

[lunar hare]

after almost if not three hours, I think I've completed the regular project just need those pieces

[jagged prism]

easter project? regulus project?

oh Ridgeways shame project? (pride i know, but i love the april fools joke on it)

[lunar hare]

regulus
just making the joke on Regular lol

[jagged prism]

XD

🤔 was there a dodge city holster joke?

[lunar hare]

qq, do the items that have to be donated to the Regulus project, need to be picked up from the raid or can I donate the exact same piece from anywhere else?

because I'm missing like 8 things

I ain't running another 3 IH in one weekend

[jagged prism]

been so long since i've done the project i don't remember honestly, but i think i had to run it 3 times or something like that

[lunar hare]

hell naw I ain't completing my goals this month

[jagged prism]

don't think it was after weekly reset either. was just running it back to back kind of deal i believe

[jagged prism]

according to wiki, you can run it and get 4 of the 5 pieces from the bosses
last piece is stuck in the chest
Once the second pair of Projects have been completed, the final one will be unlocked, titled Rats Gnaw Our Bones, which involves collecting five (5) Exotic Components necessary to craft Regulus. Like the Ironwork Base Materials, these components are obtained from each of the Named bosses in Operation Iron Horse, as well as the final reward chest:

[fiery slate]

Like the holsters and stuff?

[jagged prism]

regulus

[fiery slate]

That can be from anywhere

Nah like to donate for the reg project

[lunar hare]

thank god

[tender wave]

Only the ironworks materials have to come from the raid, you can get enough from 2 fresh raids so use an alt if you want to avoid waiting another week.

You only need enough of them for one of the projects, once you turn it in you get them back so you can use for the other project

[lunar hare]

oh nono, mats are done, I missed mentioning that it was about the gear

[tender wave]

So just the random bits of future initiative and foundry gear? You can get those from anywhere these days. Used to be that some parts (chest and bag iirc) only dropped in the raid, but not any more

[lunar hare]

I was thinking of leaving the regulus project since I have very limited time on game pass

I feel relieved

[inland gyro]

Where do I post for exotic farming?

[tender wave]

If you're looking for other people to farm with then #lfg-playstation

[torpid garden]

Have they changed getting a blueprint as a reward for completing the daily/weekly projects? It’s not offering that as a reward for me anymore but I don’t have all the blueprints only like half of them

[tender wave]

I got one yesterday so I guess you've got all the blueprints from that particular pool. Remaining blueprints will come from other sources (mostly descent) and a fair few are simply unobtainable.

[torpid garden]

Yeah I think you’re right as I just checked the bench an all the ones I don’t have are season rewards or a couple of raid ones, damn i only have 325/543, that’s a lot of unobtainable ones

[tender wave]

You can get about a hundred from descent if you can face the grind. Also some from CP4 reward boxes if you've only been farming on challenging.

[torpid garden]

Nah I only play on heroic so I guess I have all of those, I’m not sure if I can face descent I was gonna get the exotic last week but got bored pretty quickly a gave up haha

[jagged prism]

i'm 440/543 and i only checked my holsters since it's the least amount 47/50 +5
didn't see any that told me how to obtain those 3

yeah, everything i can see doesn't give me an indicator of "how to obtain it"

weapons. only stage left season 10 reward lol

[last spade]

Geniune question guys

Why isnt ubisoft making the fame free to claim keep forever for a weekend?

Playerbase goes up, everybody buys keys anyway, more people might buy the BP which will make them money, maybe even year 1 passes and stuff like thata

It s literally a buisness move am I right or mistaken cuz I ve seen other games do this and benefiting from it a lot more than stay at a relatively low price anyway

Free games nowadays are pretty rare cuz they’re usually not good and TD2 is exceptional. More people will find out about it and might just stay in for the long run and some people’s universe will be blown away cuz they’re prob never heard of this game

[iron gust]

There's a dlc coming soon so who knows if they might do that
It's a business decision but also do the servers have the capacity to handle all the new players

[tender wave]

They did do a give away of Div1 a couple of years ago, so it's definitely possible.

[tiny oar]

there isnt really any ads for the game anymore, most people dont even know it still exist if they stopped playing year 1 or didnt buy it, doing a free to claim is good, but it def wont reach the numbers you would expect

even if imo game should go f2p now

[spare cove]

https://x.com/Orkanos/status/1912181716392775887?t=anJWkeMpj04AMtrM58i1Ew&s=19

New game director for Division 2

[tiny oar]

oh

maybe we gonna have some change

hope its gonna be good

[raven goblet]

how can the menus be so bad when you go down in tidal basin and are waiting for revive the menus are broken cant see builds or swap player watching

before you do a dlc why not fix this

[full zinc]

Bro spending so much time on the ground, he finding bugs in the menus

.
Could probably put in a ticket for it. Itll make it to trello and on their radar if enough people report it, but it really isnt prio over dlc/seasons

[tiny oar]

its a rare bug, it happen when you swap menus/inspect too fast then several menus overlap and you cant quit them, you need to loading screen to cleanse it

tho its annoying, its really not common

[opaque ruin]

Ideally if their goal is to actually launch Division 3 in the coming years the easiest way to open the gateway for that game is to reinvigorate this one.

Plus now is a good time to renew that push for Division 2. Other games in this space aren't particularly doing well (looking at you, Destiny 2).

[tropic sentinel]

They should just cancel it.

[opaque ruin]

There's always that one guy.

[last spade]

how do u travel back to floor 1 in summit?
I wanna do floor 10 farm but im at floor 81

[frozen meadow]

At the start elevator you can reset

[tropic sentinel]

Do 9 more floors and farm floor 90. Highest exo drop chances + 3 bosses.

[frozen meadow]

Alternatively just do what I do and go to school learning about differential equations

Hahahah
-# god help me

[last spade]

i have to kill 3 bosses solo on legendary?

and leave some mobs alive on the side?

uhmi might need some help

[tender wave]

The bosses come out one at a time.
But you will get more elites on f90 than f10

[last spade]

so it s literally harder

how do I go back to floor 1?

[tender wave]

like evee said, jump to lobby then check the options at the elevator

[tiny oar]

you're not forced to be solo

[tiny oar]

go to map, go to lobby, then reset on elevator

[tiny oar]

wym, its fun

i like maths doing funky stuff

[frozen meadow]

Laplace transforms and Fourier series are not fun