td2-general-chat

[scarlet musk]

In bethesda studios no one knows how a gun works it's hilarious 😂

[grand blade]

@hybrid ore I saw that! 🤣

[hybrid ore]

As long as the guns look like something that John Wick uses to kill a way more than is justifiable amount of people, I'm good with it.

[spare jetty]

Pretty much all the items in division are based on airsoft stuff. That's about the most readily available things in Europe

At least they didn't model it off the US airsoft equipment the guns have orange tips here

[grand blade]

Honestly, I would be happy if they would add skins for each of the exotics, so we could make them look like the default weapons they are based on. I am really not a fan of these space/toy guns 👌🏽

[scarlet musk]

That one rifle... eugh

[spare jetty]

I hope they make named guns have more unique designs as well

[grand blade]

"one"? 😅

[scarlet musk]

Yeah the Doctor themed one

Right, the Diamondback is also a piece of art

[grand blade]

You don't think it is bad enough what they are doing to the exotics? 😅

[spare jetty]

It sucks that early named weapons just were the normal gun with a perfect talent. Then recent named weapons have unique designs like Invisible hand.

[spare jetty]

I mean like unique paint jobs or small additions.

Most exotics talents are garbage anyway so beyond using the same 5 exotics most of the time I've seen people use named guns

[grand blade]

As long as it would only be equipable skins, then I wouldn't mind

[elfin verge]

I've almost completely given up on exotics at this point

[spare jetty]

I mean invisible hand has handprints on it that you can't remove. But the blue paint it comes with is removeable

[torpid tendon]

I only wish we could use default look for high end guns, the 50 mag just ruin Lexington visual

[spare jetty]

Artists tool is just a splotch style graffiti paint job which is removeable.

[grand blade]

And that hand is why I am not using it, lol

[spare jetty]

Why? It's just painted handprints

[grand blade]

looks ridicules, and it prevents you from making it match up with anything

[spare jetty]

Looks ridiculous.......the handprint that disappears when you paint it a dark color........looks ridiculous?

You can't remove it no, but you can just paint it a dark color and it's like it's not there.

[grand blade]

So you mean paint the weapon blue? 😅

[spare jetty]

I painted it black and that worked

[scarlet musk]

i'm blue dabediadebda....

[grand blade]

Didn't work for me 🤔

[spare jetty]

It's weird that the Lexington is an Lvoa named item but has no unique look to it, except for the "Veteran" skins. But then you have other named guns or items that have unique features to them. Whisper is like 2 seasons old but doesn't have anything unique to it. It's like they only add anything to named guns or items if it's easy to code. They're just getting lazy with doing anything interesting at all.

[grand blade]

OMG, IKR. I hate those big A mags 😅

[spare jetty]

Is there a glitch where changing the mag on guns removes the skin from them?

It happens when I put cartel on the first sight and some other firearms. I also am upset by the fact they removed the corporation skin from being useable on the Lexington it looked cool.

[scarlet musk]

Talk about my AKM, it bugged and somewhat i god a big FAL magazine on it...

MAGIC GUN BRRR ALL BULLET

[grand blade]

I thought it was on purpose haha

[spare jetty]

Yeah every update that comes out seems to break something. It's especially annoying when it's minor things they could just fix with a quick patch

[scarlet musk]

You got it too ?

[grand blade]

An intern could fix most of it, tbh

[spare jetty]

Yeah

[scarlet musk]

It's not even the same caliber, it's ridiculous 😂

I hope it's a bug

[grand blade]

It's the same with some of the 9mm SMGs getting the 45 cal mag 😅

[scarlet musk]

Yeah Ubisoft have an issue with caliber, the whole Breakpoint game with hundred guns has.. like 5 different caliber

the FN57 pistol shoots 5.56 rifle ammo because... it has a 5 in it ?

[spare jetty]

No differentiation between them either.

5.7 is actually very distinctly similar to 5.56 so feasibly you could put 5.56 in the pistol. It would probably make it explode though

[scarlet musk]

Yeah but not the same size too

[spare jetty]

If you think a caliber is similar to another, DO NOT stick it in your gun. Best case scenario it jams, worst case scenario the bullet explodes inside of the barrel trying to force itself through.

[scarlet musk]

Or you can actually shoot but the round has way to much pressure

[spare jetty]

5.56 is longer they have the same diameter

[scarlet musk]

And you said it, it exploses

[scarlet musk]

Yeah my point ? The P90 can't shoot 5.56

[spare jetty]

Yeah the P90 is designed to shoot a pistol caliber. Trying to force something thats longer through a short barreled weapon is going to break your gun

[scarlet musk]

You couldn't even fit it in the chamber

[spare jetty]

Your applying a ton of pressure onto something not meant to fit through a hole that's just barely bigger than it is. Hence why the length would be a very big issue. 5.56 is designed to come out of rifles, 5.7 is not. Similarities do not mean they can be fired from either weapon. If it did, gun owners could save a lot of money.

Heh buys 5.56 for FN 5.7: bad to the bone plays.

[scarlet musk]

Like feeding 7.62 NATO to an AKM hehe

[spare jetty]

That depends on the cartridge

7.62x51 and .308 for example are very similar cartridges you cannot stick them in either firearm designed to shoot one specifically you'd need to switch out the barrel

[short axle]

Yall think dakrzone or conflict caches are better to find the dz named exclusives?

[full zinc]

What's up? Someone looking to join the mortar crew?
Mortar Supremacy

[sterile cedar]

I think they are the same thing

[storm cove]

Can't get pass week 4 theo manhunt because I need a bounty in west Potomac 😭

[broken cloud]

look for a hostage in the area

@storm cove

[kind veldt]

hostage rescue and public executions rewards with bounty

[storm cove]

Appreciate y'all💯💪🏾

[uncut salmon]

how low of a skill level does a player need to be to start cheating in PvE

cheating idiot softlocked the jefferson mission on heroic just as i joined in, was wondering how the enemies were dying so fast

[storm cove]

Got the bounty 💯💪🏾

[elfin verge]

I don't understand why anyone would want to. I keep getting YT recommendations for a guy who deletes everything through walls with a full auto sawn off shotgun and I'm like whyyyy

[jagged prism]

might not be low skill level, but efficient leveling method they're using hacks for?

clear landmarks, kill players i'd guess

i don't pvp though so, that's just my guess

[small spear]

i kicked a few cheaters during my legendary matchmade runs. could not understand how they try to beat my tactics by showing they're beaming the enemy with an auto tac50

[jagged prism]

@delicate hazel the auto tac50 is a dead give away that it's a hack

[small spear]

also them killing chungas without piercing their armor from long range with one shot

usually you need 2+ shots or you do the shoving trick

[sterile cedar]

9.5% WD, 4.8% CHC Matador at DZ south if anyone needs

Not great, not terrible

[jagged prism]

might be good if we had the credits to keep buying and throwing it into Expertise (> <)

[sterile cedar]

Yeah. 152 rouge dollars

[surreal grotto]

Got st. Elmo’s today

[jagged prism]

better favorite it (> <)

[surreal grotto]

Already in my stash lol. Still
Looking for a king breaker

[jagged prism]

i'd still favorite it so you don't "accidentally" sell/deconstruct it

[sterile scaffold]

If I was to cheat it would honestly just be to power grind loot

That's why people usually do it in games like this, it's like the FF farming scripts

[jagged prism]

watch mule leveling?

[sterile scaffold]

But then you have the DZ cheaters which are just there to ruin fun

[sterile scaffold]

Yeah I do that to all my exotics/gear I use

Slowly filling out my stash with all exotics

[surreal grotto]

I have like 3 and 1 is Strega lol

[sterile scaffold]

Strega is that new AR one right? Based on the FAL

[surreal grotto]

Yeah you get it from the battlepass

[sterile scaffold]

I like that rifle

It can be absolutely evil with max stack

[bitter wraith]

Some guy got mad at me in conflict for using full red (dying after firing one smg shot) yet he was using full yellow and also dying in one hit

Average conflict moment

[haughty fable]

jfc its insane how many people are incompetent at running countdown on CHALLENGING

also the amount of monkey brains that run infront of teammates blocking like half the damage that enemy could take is ridiculous

gamemode is literally unplayable just because of the people who play it

skill build players sabotaging entire teams

[full zinc]

lead the pack instead of following and whining about the people in front, ez fix. countdown is dead simple, and challenging cd can be carried by 3-4 ok players.

[haughty fable]

I was leading the pack I put out the most dps on that team probaaably but the moment we got to extraction everyone crumbled

gotta love players who don't know hunter mechanics and bring drones

[full zinc]

they probably just doing Lootcifer sacrifices
🔥 😈 🔥

[haughty fable]

my build is like fully optimized and everything im just trying to get that new AR but sheesh that was like 8 lobbies back to back of just flop teams

[full zinc]

i primarily run cc in countdown. makes everything just smooth, probably a factor in my opinions on cd. ymmv and console could be just lacking

[full zinc]

what do you consider optimized. ss perms in #ask-td2-community and #td2-build-advice if needed

[haughty fable]

I mean like all the attributes and stuff maxed

its a cookie cutter elmos + striker build

[full zinc]

ninja or no

[haughty fable]

memento for the skill tier

foam and shield

[full zinc]

youll need more up front probably. memento can be ok in groups, and i do use it in groups. but the number of players makes it slower to stack.

[haughty fable]

yeah sometimes I switch on ninja or coyote and use the striker backpack

[full zinc]

memento really strong tho in other areas. im like one of the memento pushers tbf

[haughty fable]

its nice for summit and legendary missions and sometimes nice in countdown for the armor

[full zinc]

i would ceska chest + coyote/grupo

[haughty fable]

I have a ceska obliterate chest yeah

i may just use coyote and the striker bp for countdown more just for consistent damage

biggest pet peeve is the people standing in the way though fr

[full zinc]

should keep an eye on your stacking. if its stacking quick you can probably also get away with the striker chest

personally im always running for the next obj while some are still looting. just foaming and moving

[haughty fable]

yeah I dont even really check the loot unless its an exotic

im only there cus im trying to get strega otherwise i'd just be running more summit lol

[full zinc]

thats me as well

[haughty fable]

i just swear the lobbies were way more smart the last time I was playing but that was like when they launched the first incursion

[full zinc]

probably a lot of new and returning players. pool may also be diluted because GE is active currently

[haughty fable]

strega perk just seems so much more useful than elmos

i honestly spam my lmg more than even touching elmo on a striker build

[torpid tendon]

I'll only come back to div 2 when tank buids become good. Until there I'll rock d3 on div 1.

||Goodbye ||

[full zinc]

[torpid tendon]

Oh you're talking about polarity switch event. I thought it was div 1 GE mb

[haughty fable]

Strega + Mirror seems like an interesting new combo

[full zinc]

whats div 1 👴

[haughty fable]

i only go back to div 1 for the winter vibes

div 1 still feels worse to play imo

[torpid tendon]

🫵

[vast bobcat]

I'm getting a warning that I don't own the base game when I try and buy Warlords of New York, that a normal thing that others have seen? Recently returned to TD2 and have been playing over the last couple weeks, so I have the game. No active U+ sub either.

[torpid tendon]

To be honest the only thing that bothers me in div 1 is the server lag.

[jagged prism]

you buying it via Uplay or Steam?

[vast bobcat]

Ubisoft Connect, which is where I launch the game from when I play

[jagged prism]

don't already own it?

[full zinc]

is there an ultimate edition cheaper than the dlc?

[vast bobcat]

I went to go to NY for the first time yesterday, and was prompted to buy Warlords (thought maybe I already had it). Warlords is $7.50, Ultimate Edition is $15. I think I have Year 1 (all those DLC say owned, and I can access classified missions, season pass says owned)

[jagged prism]

$15 for ultimate. $7.50 for WONY

[full zinc]

their app also has wony edition, with base and dlc for 10. in us anyways

how did you originally purchase d2

[jagged prism]

not sure if it'd be a problem, you trying to buy it in game or you completely logged out and going to the store to buy it?

[full zinc]

and are you also logged in when looking at the page. not overlay but actually in the app

[vast bobcat]

Found it in my order history:
Tom Clancy’s The Division 2 Ultimate Edition
Platform: -
Estimated delivery date: 3/12/2019

[full zinc]

you should have the dlc then iirc

[jagged prism]

maybe that's why XD

it probably did that prompt as a "first timer" kind of thing

[full zinc]

if it isnt available you should put in a ticket

links in #unofficial-troubleshooting pins

[vast bobcat]

it will let me buy it, just giving me a warning that I don't have the game. I'll pull the trigger and deal w/ CS if it's an issue

[full zinc]

fair enough. let her rip

[vast bobcat]

thanks all

[still parcel]

Hey can somebody help me out here I'm using a Stryker withe pest and everlasting gaze my thought was to use everlasting to proc perpetuation and then pest to start a waterfall but when I proc perpetuation and then switch to pest the buff falls off the ui and there no extra duration is it just the way that pest interacts it doesn't allow for buffs to the unique debuff??? I'm lost

[fiery slate]

Pesti isn’t a status effect, so perpetuation won’t proc

[still parcel]

is there a reason the debuff falls off

[fiery slate]

Yeah because you swapped weapons

Gotta stay on pesti

[still parcel]

so if it falls off switching weapons is the skill basically usless that seems conter intuitive unless your running skill procs and that seems pretty inconsistant

[fiery slate]

Well perpetuation should stay on weapon swap IIRC, but pesti stacks won’t persist, and it’s not a status so it won’t be effected by perpetuation proccing anyways

[still parcel]

ok i think im gonna switch to aa12 or invisible hand to get my stryker stacks so i guess im fine with it lol thanks alot

i really apreciate it

[hollow sonnet]

Is it better to sell or dismantle items I'm just slightly past the New York intro right now haven't put the game for a while

[dense crypt]

I know who this is. I've reported him but he's been doing this for over three months straight and recording videos of himself doing it. He sells his hacks. Part of me wants to buy it so a buddy of mine and me can reverse engineer it to figure out how it works then report how it works so it can be fixed

I've also witnessed this in the DZ live, clearing a landmark and suddenly everything in front of me dies, like I was lagging, then some dude comes in and scoops up loot and leaves

To their credit, I've never seen them use the hacks for PvP, but I can almost guarantee they have at one point, absolute power corrupts absolutely

I hate cheaters

[hollow sonnet]

help .w.

[hybrid ore]

Donate to Library > Give for Expertise > Dismantle until capped > Sell.

@tough adder You're looking for #lfg-xbox, GL Agent

[hollow sonnet]

ooo

[hybrid ore]

@stiff heath You're looking for #lfg-pc, GL Agent

[stiff heath]

Oh sorry

[lilac sail]

I would argue extracting attributes is important too, it's the first thing I do, then donate to bring up Expertise and then dismantle. Also donate Protective Fabric (if getting close to the limit of 9999) on weapons and gear items I don't like to use, to bring up Proficiency without having to use them.

[lilac sail]

If you have a link to the cheat, open a ticket with Easy Anti-cheat and give it to them. They may not do anything, but worth a shot.

[full zinc]

library was Rivens first mention in that msg. thats the hierarchy i would suggest as well.
library> expertise> decon> sell

[full zinc]

also, as a history nut, i respect the name and pfp
fascinating time that still shapes our world. ill probably get dinged by Rivens because im way off topic 😅 .

[scarlet musk]

In my drone/turret build, Is the waveform's talent only good when both skills are actives ?

[grizzled basin]

Is it possible to get a taxi through the manhunt climax mission

[full zinc]

its good if youve already squeezed a bunch of skill damage from other sources. it is a rotating buff, so if a skill isnt deployed itll be wasted damage. its solid damage. i use waveform on my own turret/drone builds now since empress took a bit of a hit. wyver, 2 hanna(tech support), skilltier sacrifice (perfect glass), waveform, and a pallisades piece + gunner to get 20% armor on kill

[scarlet musk]

I have something similar but with Empress-Hana ! Okay i play a lot with both skills actives so still good !

[full zinc]

yup. long uptime and short cooldown

you probably have a ton of haste.

[scarlet musk]

haste is so cool 😎

[full zinc]

i pfe the mods on mine and still around 100% haste

no doubt

are you 3 empress?

[scarlet musk]

Yep

And glass canon, Capacitor, In-Sync sniper and a 686 magnum to overclock skills

[full zinc]

nice. idk how many times i posted 3 empress or no empress

look into mop shotgun. comes with aok and same in sync as mmr

[scarlet musk]

Have it 👌

[full zinc]

skills proc aok a lot

i better zip it, sounds like you have a good grasp on build theory

[scarlet musk]

Yeah but thanks to people here hehe !
But yeah i love perfectioning my build !

[fading cave]

Yall need to fix that bounty in east mall bug

Ain’t no way they sending me to true sons

[undone timber]

Drop down to challenging

[fading cave]

For sure thank you bro

[undone timber]

Heroic true sons bounties always go to constitution hall iirc but any other difficulty works fine

[fading cave]

Fasho

[lilac sail]

Yeah I see now, donate to library is just a bit confusing is all. You extract at the library and donate at the Expertise section. But the whole thing really needs an overhaul, it's confusing for even players like myself that played over 1K of TD1. Plus if you want to donate material to a weapon or gear piece, you have to go into the Expertise section and find that piece and research it (whatever that means in this context) and then donate material to bring up the Proficiency. All very confusing and inefficient to say the last.

[hollow hill]

Can't wait for this next seasonal journey to be completed on either hard or challenging difficulty 😂😂

[hollow hill]

Don't feel bad. I'm shd 13k and have yet to max out my expertise. I could run a few mules and max it out but I don't see the point. It's just extra numbers to make a build stronger 🤷 power creep is all it is

Ever since devs started nerfing things I refuse to dump expertise into anything now

[molten spire]

I only started expertise upgrades this season due to finally reaching a truly insane state of overcapping protective fabric and receiver parts otherwise

[full zinc]

that's fair. we all had the right idea, so all good.
also side note, if donating materials to proficient individual items make sure you dont long press, or youll get a nice surprise .

[full zinc]

slackin

best advice i could give is only upgrade weapons you prefer with talent able to be recalibrated. wont help with damage nerfs, but will allow you to take advantage of new op talents

[faint token]

How’d you go about getting the Lexington if you didn’t log in at December time?

[full zinc]

hop in the old time machine and take a trip

[molten spire]

you sit around and wait for the next grant

[full zinc]

its gonna be added in at some point , just dont have an eta afaik

[hollow hill]

Yeahhhhh most of the nerfs were guns heavily used in pvp that I expertised 🤠

On a good note tho, I've just realized my he vigi build for pvp is no longer nerfed. I just perfected it with pieces I forgot I had 😂

[inland raptor]

Point out they never had an end date in marketing so everyone should get the bronze.

Still right now there website clearly has no end date.

Then take them to trading standards

Must say that’s a lot of ball ache though.

[tender wave]

Can't imagine trading standards would care when it was a free giveaway 😂
They didn't even promise anything to anyone in advance.

[molten spire]

you gon do it or nah

[trail solstice]

Hey guys im pretty new in this game, what is the best gun for PVE ?

[molten spire]

are you level 40 or not

if no, just use whatever to get through story. If yes, check the pinned message in #td2-build-advice for some weapon damage builds

[lilac sail]

I always donate individual material items, usually Protective Fabric, so that I don't go over the limit and lose those materials when dismantling.

[somber pewter]

My friends list is full of North Americans as I used to live in Canada, but now live in Australia so I'm looking for some cool people on a similar timezone to run with 😂

[tender wave]

Try #td2-clan-recruitment and #lfg-playstation

[boreal pilot]

fellas, i can't complete the scout because all of the bounties go to constitution for some reason. got any tips?

[molten spire]

turn down global difficulty to Challenging

[boreal pilot]

what if that doesn't work?

[elfin hazel]

it should work but do black tusk public execution should there be one if for whatever reason it doesn't

[boreal pilot]

so i gotta wait until it's invaded?

[unreal perch]

no drop to challenging because on heroic all true sons bounties go to constition hall

[boreal pilot]

that.. is a bug.. right..?

[unreal perch]

yes 🤣

[boreal pilot]

😭🙏

does it HAVE to be challenging or can it be anything below heroic?

because if it's the latter, then i'm screwed

yeah.. you're right.

but what if i can't find someone 🙏

[tender wave]

Anything below heroic, the bug only affects heroic true sons bounties. You can also hunt the snitch in the area you need the bounty in

If he doesn't spawn just log off and on again

If you already found him somewhere else, think he needs a half hour cooldown

[boreal pilot]

damn

aint my motto, just trying to see if there are alternatives incase plan A fails (and B and C...)

[tender wave]

Can also try capturing all the control points and hope a black tusk hostage rescue spawns (doesn't require the area to be invaded)

[boreal pilot]

could potentially ask my friend since he's not done bounties yet

i hope and pray

and then it turns out you forgot something you need to BUILD that bridge.

nothing wrong with being prepared for the worst

truely. 🙏

[native flare]

yo

[slim quarry]

Golle

[whole flame]

Looking at the update news, this game is prettymuch dead now huh? The dlc got pushed back indefinitely while they're still recycling old content it seems.

No news either about division 3. Only about their failed mobile game.

[timber hatch]

plently of people still play and the dlc is still coming

[scarlet musk]

The Cameleon is criminally underrated for countdown. The talent hardly gets off during the fights, so you can stack. I made 1.5mil crit with the vector's rof

Guys i got a godrolled Ceska plate, i want to put glass canon on it but it doesn't show up in the list, what's the reason ?

Do i have to extract it from another chestpiece ?

nevermind, figured it out

omg that's gonna be a blast, 15% damage, 12%chd and 6%chc

[elfin hazel]

indefinitely is a stretch from its still coming in 2025

[scarlet musk]

The real shame is to call the game "dead" when it's absolutely not

[keen osprey]

I wouldn't say indefinitely as they've likely pinned down a confirmed time frame since the delay announcement, -- we will find out in March with the Anniversary stream and announcement of year 7 roadmap - this also gives them "more" to talk about so that they can bulk the stream out and make Y7 more packed than it would be without the DLC. I'd expect if ubisoft continues with the June Forward showcase that we will see a confirmed trailer for the DLC for Y7S1.

They reiterated that they just need time to polish it off before it releases.

[keen osprey]

The same people forget that many stuck with the game through the 1.5 years of repeat seasons. There are both old and new dedicated agents.

If Skull and Bones, For Honor and The Crew can get continual yearly roadmaps and support then so can the division. At the end of the day they NEED to keep updating the game regardless of the player numbers in order to encourage and promote the impending third installment

[spare cove]

I think the issue with BFB is that some players dislike everything about Div 2 and might expect the DLC to be an overhaul, when it's simply a story DLC

[hybrid ore]

If they dislike everything about the game, they're unlikely to buy new content for said-game.

[shadow plank]

Is there a reason why the control points supply chests stopped giving bps? I used to get 2 bps per control points, 1 from completing and 1 from the supply chest but now the supply chest only gives targeted loot

[pine scaffold]

Does anyone know the best way to get the chameleon

[grand blade]

The answer here would be: Why would you want to get the Chameleon? 😅

[scarlet musk]

Don't listen it's a great gun, you can loot if from the general loot pool, means AR TL, caches, priority objectives

[tender wave]

Chameleon has a higher drop chance from bounties

[scarlet musk]

Oh didnt know that, great !

[real creek]

There was a pool of BPs from them and you've exhauseted it. Same will happen with control point clear rewarded BPs eventually too.

[hybrid gust]

Sad, this past few day countdown full with dced... whether it from the very start, mid or chest bug 😦

Not just me last round at least 4 dced

the rest we run 2 activity then left

[grand blade]

I must admit I have yet to make it work for me 🤔

[signal grail]

It's wild how im seeing PC players complaining about bugs the most when it comes to connections and dc.
Like damn, eventually one day when I upgrade to PC and move to the pc version i don't wanna deal with that.

[undone timber]

its mid tbh

theoretically very very powerful when you have all buffs on but in practice you never do

gets points for looking and sounding cool but otherwise it's not that good

[scarlet musk]

in countdown you do because the "combat" mode is always active on the 4 fight spots

[signal grail]

But just to fact check, for those on pc what are your pc specs coz i read online that this game eats CPU for breakfast no matter how beefy it is.

Anyways i haven't played div2 for 2 days coz i took a break to rest up. Time to get back on the polarize for exotic chests wew

[undone timber]

in countdown anything goes anyway cuz countermeasures and 8 players

[real creek]

Ah yes countdown, the mode with tons of buffs and modifiers so you just think you are god but don't really know why. Perfect time to judge a weapon and it's performance.

[scarlet musk]

I was just pointing out that in this mode you can stack the Cameleon's buffs

[real creek]

I'd argue it's worse for that tho. The buffs run out and you have to restack them over and over. In fast paced missions with short engagements the buffs stay out of combat so it's better if you can go in and out of combat and carry over buffs.

[scarlet musk]

With striker and the guns RoF you can stack these up pretty fast

[real creek]

Chameleons real issue is that unless you are hitting two of the buffs you aren't doing more and just take video and look at how much you are on those two buffs vs not. The rest of the issues lie with it's an SMG in AR clothes and it's not helping it.

[undone timber]

its just not worth it when you can have instant damage with another gun

[scarlet musk]

Yeah the fact it's not precise doesn't help i agree

[undone timber]

with no stack gimmicks

[real creek]

It's good damage when you got it but people need to do a lil video capture and go back and look at how often they don't have that damage.

[scarlet musk]

omg i would have never guessed the puzzle in the night club

[abstract rapids]

Took me a long time

missed 1 number

and tried by trial and error

[spare cove]

The night club puzzle? Is it the one from the classified assignment?

[abstract rapids]

yeah

[spare cove]

Also, I wonder who's the other guy in the latest tweet? Maybe we finally see McManus in the flesh?

[abstract rapids]

I found the trick on the third room

I had to remember all the correct light on the wall (and some got broken during the fight)

[misty path]

guys

what counts as a gadget for the purpose of journey 7 mission

theo's drones don't, riker MG emplacements don't, and black tusk support stations don't

[flat tundra]

Hi guys i missed the valentine even iis there a way for me to still obtain first sight?

[solar marlin]

What's up everyone. Just started the game a cpl days ago

[raw minnow]

Look up the loot goblin, he'll drop the First Sight

[wheat zinc]

Does he drop it if it wasn’t obtained first?

[tender wave]

General BT drones do, iirc you can farm the room prior to final keener fight in Liberty Island, or shd crate rooms in summit. I did try to farm a legendary drone controller but they seemed much more shy about hurling endless drones when it's only you and them

[misty path]

i just tried the same thing lol, she was waiting like 5 minutes between drone launches

[tender wave]

Yeah, I can't actually remember how I farmed that one out in the end, probably just ran a bunch of BT stuff

[dense crypt]

1.) Equip bulwark foundry 5 pieces and forge holster
2.) Do summit
3.) Look for room with drones and consoles to disable drones
4.) Deploy reflective shield and put your back in a corner
5.) AFK
6.) Come back to completed project

It works but I've never AFK'd to do it and I didn't have the patience to stay on the drone floor

Was a hypothesis I had a year or so ago, wondering if it would be a viable way to farm XP by killing drones

?Tested it a couple of times but it's very circumstantial

[misty path]

the shd crate drones count? i thought they might not since theo's don't in the WONY mission

also semi-related note, hyena riot shield tanks don't count as tanks

[dense crypt]

Aren't tanks the fully armoured enemies with LMGs/Grenade Launchers/Miniguns (faction depending)?

[kind veldt]

They share the shield icon

[misty path]

conceptually yes, but the riot shield guys have tank icons next to their healthbars

[fading cave]

I get the first sight from loot goblin open world

[scarlet musk]

I'm farming him but he always drops 2 legendary and 4 purples, is this normal ? i'm on challenging

nevermind i just had bad luck

well i still have

First Sight won't drop 😭

[dense crypt]

Did you complete the valentines day project initially?

[scarlet musk]

Yep !

Multiple times

[dense crypt]

I know the event was buggy, last step kept reappearing after completion, and I got first sight as a reward for capturing no hope hotel (the final phase of the project) even after the project was removed

[scarlet musk]

wasn't that on purpose ?

[dense crypt]

Not sure

If the event went away and First Sight was added to the loot goblin pool post completion, that would be one thing, but the events final stage just kept reappearing

The seasonal events I have participated in in the past didn't work like that if I remember right

But it could have been intentional

[tender wave]

when they give us a multi-day project for a seasonal item like that, it always repeats the final project every day until the season event is over, that's actually 'normal'

[dense crypt]

That's news to me. I guess that shows how much I pay attention to seasonal events

I normally do them once and then that's it

I don't pay close attention to the projects page

[scarlet musk]

The First sight is in the goblin loot pool tho, right ?

[dense crypt]

I have received it from the goblin once, yeah

[real creek]

As long as you've gotten it from the current project.

[scarlet musk]

Yes i did but only crappy ones 😦

[dense crypt]

I would think as long as you've completed it once, the goblin will drop it

[real creek]

I didn't farm one.

[scarlet musk]

Then i will continue my duty 🫡

[dense crypt]

I think the goblin drops two seasonal items at a time, and you're looking for one specific item from a pool of potential seasonal items. IF the first sight is indeed in the pool (I believe it is) then it may take some time before you get another to drop

[jagged prism]

after i completed the valentines event and decided to hit up a goblin i've gotten a few first sight guns from him

someone from this server or the other mentioned getting one from him, so i figured i'd give it a shot since i finished the first sight quest that day and wanted more and sure enough it dropped

[scarlet musk]

Oh that's why i got 3621 Thompsons

[jagged prism]

from memory there's Sleigher, Cooler (chiller?) and first sight as weapons? then there's snow machine and chillout?

[real creek]

Yeah the hoarder will drop the first sight as long as you've gotten one from the project. Just farm dat man.

[real creek]

Harvest in there too.

The one worth farming really.

[jagged prism]

thanks i was like, i feel i'm missing something

[dense crypt]

Festive Delivery, The squirt gun, Oh Carol, Sleigher, The knee pads I think?

Harvest

And first sight now

Probably more, I don't run into the goblin often

[jagged prism]

There it us, the mmr and the backpack

[dense crypt]

Snow Machine

[jagged prism]

Never remember the name of that squirter gun hence I put on cooler(chiller?) Maybe squirter gun would've been better

[dense crypt]

The kneepads

It's called Cooler, you're right

[jagged prism]

I was excited to see the snow machine

But was like that's it?

[dense crypt]

I'm in my stash right now lol

[cold narwhal]

Snow machine doesn’t actually do anything besides a visual effect right

[jagged prism]

Yeah, barely noticable

[real creek]

It's cool tho.

[jagged prism]

maybe i need a different status effect build that isn't fire eclipse to see it better

🤔 what would've been nice if they added it as a status effect of something like "Freezing" in that with a bit of slower movement speed and having a hard time aiming a weapon kind of deal because they're "shivering" kind of thing

[cold narwhal]

That would take too much work for a seasonal gag item

[cinder nacelle]

Phew managed to do master difficulty mission first try 🥳 . Went with tech load out, had a healer and thankfully someone who knew the mechanics.

[cinder nacelle]

Yeah it's basically nothing.

[jagged prism]

it helps doesn't it? i called for help since i was on the 4th area thinking we'd start from there but it ended up restarting the whole mission T_T

[dense crypt]

The Curse of St. Nick
When an enemy is hit with a round from a weapon with this talent, they get a mark that lasts for five seconds Maximum marks is 3. If a marked enemy dies, all other marked enemies within 25m find the spirit of giving within them, making them non combatants for 30 seconds. During this time, they will bring you gifts. The kind of gift depends on how many marks the marked enemy had when it died.
1 mark = Primary/secondary/handgun ammo
2 marks = Grenades
3 marks = Armour kits

[jagged prism]

4 marks = Exotic Components (> <)

[cinder nacelle]

Yeah I had no clue about the mechanics so was just praying to the gods someone else did. All I had to do was DPS and not die.

[jagged prism]

or wait, 4 marks = Enemy archetype components
5=marks Exotic components?

[dense crypt]

That would be way too OP, just have one person spray marks into a crowd of enemies, one person kills them, instant exotic component farm

[cinder nacelle]

Also I'm not quite getting why we're|| just cool working with|| Keener and Parnell all of a sudden... 🤔

[dense crypt]

Year Six Season 1, do that manhunt

[zinc shadow]

kelso reasons something

[dense crypt]

It's a legacy manhunt so you won't get all of the comms, but you'll get an idea

[cinder nacelle]

Yeah I did it. Maybe they covered it and I missed that part. Kelso|| went rogue and was, like, these are my friends|| now and then here we are. Or did I miss some bombshell revelation?..

[dense crypt]

Oh it's not Year 6 S 1, that's first rogue. It's the kelso manhunt you need to start with, then do the keener, which is Year 6 Season 1

[brazen yacht]

Can we talk about how horribly balanced the pvp maps are

[dense crypt]

That's the TL;DR of it. I've not done the manhunt enough to get all of the comms for context, but Keener knows something. He's told Kelso what that is and it was enough to make her go MIA (hence the manhunt)

I don't think it's been revealed what Keener knows, but I think it's been alluded to

[jagged prism]

don't recall if i got all the comms but i really should go and have a listen XD

[spare cove]

You can ask in #division-universe

[brazen yacht]

I had this same question then i watched a lore video

It caught me up on all the events that happened in the seasons before

And it lowk is pretty understandable

[dense crypt]

This is pretty much a necessity at this stage

[brazen yacht]

||Also, whenn faye lau switched sides i was down, whatever faye sez goes||

[cold narwhal]

This sounds like a full gearset or exotic talent. That would be insane for named item

[jagged prism]

OH gearset for Christmas? outfit looks like a santa ready to turn the town all red?

[cold narwhal]

I think theyve basically told it all in coms already. It’s nothing mind blowing

[dense crypt]

Paint the town red
When you have all four pieces of this set, you're ready to spread christmas cheer. Each enemy you kill will grant you one stack. At 30 stacks, you're given 10 seconds of invulnerability, Wherever you go, you leave behind a trail of goodies. Ammo, grenades and armour kits. The goodies you drop are random. The more you move during this ten seconds, the more you drop

[cinder nacelle]

Maybe I should check a refresher.

[cold narwhal]

Btw you can get all comms from legacy manhunts, you just have to run the climax mission 50 times or whatever

[dense crypt]

I think each boss drops one

[cold narwhal]

Yes usually

[dense crypt]

So the number of times you need to run the climax depends on how many bosses and how many comms

[cold narwhal]

Sometimes only pne does though

[brazen yacht]

||Literally its just the division has become kinda ignorant, and dont get things done the way they should, also its a government org and nobody trusts the government anymore. The acts of terrorism by aaron keener is a little much tho||

[zinc shadow]

haven't heard this kinda take in a while 🚬

[dense crypt]

Puppeteers has 33. So glad I was active for that one. The recruiter fight is a pain in the butt

[brazen yacht]

I feel like its all fun n games until u remember aaron keener ||literally gassed ny||

[jagged prism]

one thing that bugs me is when i look at my manhunts a lot says "Completed" but 1 the Stove Pipe guy i think it was? or anderson? when i know for sure i've done that one as well....

[cold narwhal]

Yeah i can’t just cognitive dissonance my way around “horrific biological warfare” lol

[zinc shadow]

he hacked ISAC it was just hologas

[brazen yacht]

Yeaaaah lmfao

The only thing i think i missed was what anna is

Still have no idea where she came from

[zinc shadow]

that's in like two year old descent comms

[cold narwhal]

Turns out you can use decoys to mimic smallpox

[dense crypt]

Don't get too serious about the story in general. There's a couple of trolls in here who love to mess with people who actually like the story

[jagged prism]

could we just say anna is isaac's daughter? XD

[zinc shadow]

the rogue network was not, in fact, rogue

[brazen yacht]

lmao

[zinc shadow]

if you're referring to me I'm mildly offended

[dense crypt]

Only mildly?

(I wasn't referring to you)

[zinc shadow]

ah good

[real creek]

The story I know is we kill people, they kill people, it's all just killing people.

[zinc shadow]

that's basically all there is to it
the ppl we're shooting are bad so shoot them

[jagged prism]

for instance wouldn't 20/20 for price of power be a sign i did the price of power manhunt? 🤔

[cinder nacelle]

I mean... yeah... you either put the dude on trial or, the usual Division tactic, of putting a bullet in his head. You don't|| team up with him and run around rescuing his mates||.

[real creek]

"bad" people bro we all bad people. We shoot first and then have a mountain of bodies.

[zinc shadow]

nope

[cold narwhal]

|| Essentially they are making mcmanus & the hunters the new big bad and only the rogues can stop them because they aren’t limited to the relatively restrictive shd network or whatever. But maybe im missing something because hunters only seem like a threat to shd and not like…the entire world ||

[zinc shadow]

"we shoot first" well let's see the enemy factions are
a virus cult trying to kill innocent people
a violent street gang who kill innocent people
a rogue military unit who kill innocent people
a psuedo-fascist paramilitary who invaded the city and kill innocent people

well and counting hunters ||traitors to the cause and nation|| who kill division agents

everyone else "shot first" by... being evil

you're not gonna go up to them in the street and say "wanna talk it out?"

that's how war works

[real creek]

Ah I forgot killing everyone without question means you have to be the good guys.

[misty path]

lol

the division is not the cinematic universe to take this stance in

[cold narwhal]

In the setting of this game its fairly black and white. Cause you know, its a game and not the real world where things are much more nuanced and not all “bad guys” are cartoonishly evil

[brazen yacht]

The Division agent pulling up on the camp of cleaner deserters and blasting them all to smithereens without asking any questions:

[real creek]

Now don't get me wrong the people we go after in this game are bad, it's just our only way to solve any problem is just shot em in the face.

[zinc shadow]

that's not true

it just isn't easy to represent non violent solutions in a third person shooter

[dense crypt]

I got two walls of masks that say we don't need to be rogues...

[cold narwhal]

Yeah lol

[zinc shadow]

for example
there's an ECHO in div 1 (noble squad, first echo) where a division agent allows a gang of rioters to leave and not get owned even though she has every right to shoot them if she wants

[jagged prism]

O_O

[zinc shadow]

there are multiple moments in the Operation Crossroads trilogy where division agents use negotiation, persuasion and mercy to achieve objectives without killing

[cold narwhal]

Exactly. If you want a more complicated take on wartime morality go play Papers Please or something

[dense crypt]

The reason why we're all shooty mcboomboom is because either negotiations have failed in the past, or the factions will not negotiate

[elfin hazel]

hard disagree its more so this series isn't built for it

[cold narwhal]

Yeah cuz thats a book, where you can do stuff like that and not have 90% of gamers call it a woke walking simulator or whatever

[zinc shadow]

same difference you know what I mean

it's a looter shooter. randos need to die for gear and xp and etc

[hybrid ore]

It's hard to be the looter part of a looter-shooter, when the enemy wants to hold hands and sing.

[zinc shadow]

not built for complex narrative mechanics

[real creek]

I'm just saying the division we play as is maybe not the good guys in the way good guys are good.

[hybrid ore]

Okay Rick Valassi.

[zinc shadow]

the franchise has toyed with this idea since div 1 launch and it... hasn't really ever been true

[dense crypt]

Good and Evil are subjective

[real creek]

idk who this is, should I good them?

[zinc shadow]

💀

[elfin hazel]

we're the good guys because it's tom clancy branded despite how much the story wants to veer into division bad actually perhaps???? at times

[cold narwhal]

Maybe im spending too much time in the terminal but despite his brash persona he makes some good points 😂

[real creek]

#td2-general-chat message
My knowledge of the story was already made known here.

[zinc shadow]

CHEMTRAILS????

[dense crypt]

Any sort of agency that acts outside of established societal laws will be seen as bad

[zinc shadow]

well... if u knew more about the story u might come to a better conclusion no offence

[dense crypt]

Even if their directives are for the good of the country

[hybrid ore]

Y'all are forgetting the very important fact that human civilisation is effectively over.

There's not enough people to keep going.

[real creek]

idk in no way shape of form am I ever going to think that what we do is as the good guys.

[cold narwhal]

Hey thers still some civilization in other cou… oh you meant in the game 😂

[zinc shadow]

well therein lies the issue

[hybrid ore]

Agents were only ever meant to be activated to keep the US Government in power, and it didn't work because 95% of all people are dead with a capital D.

[zinc shadow]

if the division started doing bad things i'd say the division are bad

[hybrid ore]

We have fire turrets, good guys don't generally have fire turrets.

[real creek]

I'll try to think I'm the good guy next time I use hollow point bullets to bleed people or set the afire so they burn to death or a form of chemical warfare cause oxys are fun.

[hybrid ore]

It's the disconnect between gameplay and story, you gotta take it as it goes.
Video-game plots have always been on the less than stable side anyway.

[dense crypt]

If those fire turrets protect innocent people trying to survive, are the people who deployed the fire turrets still the bad guys?

[hybrid ore]

YES>

If you have a device that is specifically for burning people alive, you are a bad guy.

That is not a complicated issue.

[dense crypt]

Agree to disagree, the turret is a tool

[elfin hazel]

generally I think we should probably be capturing at least outcasts & cleaners instead of outright killing them 😭

[hybrid ore]

The Green Poison was a tool.

[zinc shadow]

if we're talking war crimes, Black Tusk are still no. 1 on that front (Green Poison is a massive crime against humanity)

[dense crypt]

It was

[cold narwhal]

Yeah let’s be honest, the minute a “cop” launches a gun drone off their backpack as a normal response , any sense of justifiable force kinda goes put the window

[misty path]

bro they have suicide bombers just walking around strapped up and ready to go

idk, i feel pretty morally correct personally

[hybrid ore]

Technically we do as well, if you use the Mad Bomber Talent.

[elfin hazel]

I don't think proving their whole ideology right by killing them is a great idea

[hybrid ore]

Outcasts used infected puppies to infect orphans.
I'm going to make the bold claim that it makes them evil.

[real creek]

I'm just saying that's for all sides included.

[hybrid ore]

That's actually canon btw.

[dense crypt]

You cannot reason with people whose response to seeing you is to squeeze off rounds in your direction

[hybrid ore]

Yeah, screw those trigger happy Agents.

[dense crypt]

You can be all for peace and capturing opponents, that's fine, but not everyone is going to lay down their arms

Your SHD tech and weapons are not to make people do what you want, it's to defend yourself in execution of your mission

[hybrid ore]

Page', anything you say is going to be countered by the fact that this is a looter-shooter. The story is just not as nuanced as it needs to be, in order for any philosophical argument to work.

Add that to the current storyline where our Agent appears to have taken several heavy blows to the head, and it's just not that kinda story.

[dense crypt]

I think the nuance occurred before the game even began, and the game takes place in the stage of "We tried peace and it failed"

[zinc shadow]

fwiw
disarmament.unoda.org/convarms/incendiary-weapons
you actually are allowed to burn people to death as long as they're not civilians and you're not causing indiscriminate damage to civilian buildings

[spare cove]

I always wanted to work with Keener. War crimes, be damned

[hybrid ore]

@zinc shadow I want this to be 100% clear: I am putting you on a list for looking that up.

[dense crypt]

The Geneva Conventions should be renamed to the Geneva Suggestions

[cold narwhal]

It can be fun to think about and discuss as long as everyone remembers it’s an extremely fictional video game and conjecture on that topic shouldn’t be taken over to real life.

[zinc shadow]

hey i was expecting it to be different lol
i was thinking "aren't flamethrowers outright banned?" turns out no not at all

[spare cove]

Well, some people do take the whole "working with Keener and Theo" thing pretty personally

[hybrid ore]

Also, the source material of tom clancy is in itself: a fan-fic, since the man was never in the actual military.

[dense crypt]

They're not lol, but they're highly ineffective

The warfare landscape today is either close quarters, or 300+ meters engagement distances

[cold narwhal]

Those people need to take a step back and extricate their personalities from fiction

[dense crypt]

Close quarters being indoors makes flamethrowsers a death-trap

[hybrid ore]

Let's not take any of this stuff too seriously, it's still a game after all.

[elfin hazel]

considering the banshee pulse exists and all the weird jank hackiness with tech that happens in this game I don't think it's that farfetched for someone to get the idea to just strap a bunch of banshee pulses together to immobilize people so you don't even have to worry about them not willingly putting their guns down

[cold narwhal]

Unless you’re a cleaner who also somehow have better antiviral gas masks than shd

[zinc shadow]

it's like redneck engineering, but "Gary, 45, two kids and a mortgage" engineering

[elfin hazel]

what having a proper head covering mask does for you

[cold narwhal]

Isaac: you need mythical level 6 filter to survive here.
A cleaner with some duct tape: nah im good

[raw minnow]

Side note to the lore dumpage, I have had awful luck getting a DTTOOC First Sight. Loot Gobby has not been a friend

[scarlet musk]

Confirm, it won't drop

[jagged prism]

was about to say wait doesn't that have a perfect skill attached and remembered it's the headshot damage on it and was like yeah

[cold narwhal]

I haven’t been able to get one either, but luckily I never plan on using it so it doesn’t matter

[raw minnow]

Yeah, I can get them to drop but just don't have dttooc

I want it for my completionist sake lol

[elfin verge]

I really dislike that dtoc is basically required

Not that I want it nerfed but it really makes it boring when you nerf yourself by not having it

[cold narwhal]

I mean you could always play on hard where everything works fine and not just extremely optimized builds 🤣

[raw minnow]

Whoa whoa whoa, hard?

I ain't no punk

[hybrid ore]

You don't actually need dtooc on guns for Heroic, just an FYI.

It's all just a matter of practice.

[raw minnow]

But math

I don't need it, but I want it

[elfin verge]

You can't practice your way to more damage output

[hybrid ore]

You actually 100% can in div2, that's the great thing about this game.

[cold narwhal]

You don’t need it but if you’re a gun build it would be kind of dumb not to

[elfin verge]

That's literally my point lol

[hybrid ore]

boosting your DPS by missing less shots, taking less damage so you spend less time hiding like a chicken, using angles to shoot, knowing spawns.
All of that will buff your damage in the long-run.

[raw minnow]

I only play this game to hate myself and min/max, who plays for fun?

[hybrid ore]

Of course it's pretty much always the best stat for a gun, but that will change in the future, Yannick has said as much.

[cold narwhal]

This hurts but is true

😂

[raw minnow]

I don't know how you change that though without giving people back their recalibration

[cold narwhal]

Pff, yannick would say that, he has hunter level dps by default

[raw minnow]

Just take it away and give me more crit chance

[hybrid ore]

I saw his live gameplay, he does not lol.

[cold narwhal]

200% crit chance. Your gun implodes into a miniature black hole

[raw minnow]

And on the other side of the black hole is Division 3

[hybrid ore]

The DLC comes first, div3 won't be until at least 2027, mark my words.

[cold narwhal]

I will be too old to play video games due to crippling arthritis by the time div3 comes out

[hybrid ore]

Div3 and GTA 6 on PC: both releasing in 2068.

but swap div3 there for whatever Elder Scrolls is next.

[cold narwhal]

👴

Apple emoji are terrible that guy doesn’t look elderly, just bald

[raw minnow]

I don't know how they keep this game going for another 2 years

[jagged prism]

some serious creative thinking i'd say

[cold narwhal]

Some duct tape and a prayer

[elfin verge]

Magically reincarnating some other old characters and making manhunts out of them I guess

[jagged prism]

this past PTS has me excited for the game but beyond that i'm worried XD

[elfin verge]

Joe Ferro next?

[jagged prism]

brooklyn dlc?

[raw minnow]

This gets put down as soon as BL4 comes out

[hybrid ore]

I'd suggest making it a drinking game, where the conversation always turns into "Game ded", but we'd all be dead of alcohol poisoning within hours.

[low lily]

Joe Ferro was actually really interesting character

[jagged prism]

BL4 = COD game?

[elfin verge]

"Agent, Joe Ferro is back and he wants his exotic mask back"

You can now reload while on fire is probably my favourite exotic talent because of the absurdity

[cold narwhal]

Id rather play the same division mission for the rest of my life than borderlands 4

[low lily]

Gameplay looked decent tho

[hybrid ore]

Don't take this the wrong way, but anyone excited for Borderlands 4 probably hasn't played 3.

yeesh.

[spare cove]

True

[jagged prism]

oh borderlands XD

[raw minnow]

Yeah yeah, Borderlands. And I have played a ton of 3, that game was great. But gotta move on to new things

[jagged prism]

i've tried think from 3 and i just don't see the appeal for it

didn't stop me when they 1 and 2 and other were up for free on epic though XD

[raw minnow]

I've played since 1, the builds and looting and cracked out gameplay is what I enjoy

[hybrid ore]

Bad writing helps keep it fresh.

[jagged prism]

though i do enjoy that bot

[raw minnow]

People play for the story?

I play games with no audio lol

[cold narwhal]

After playing div2 and then getting into 1 more thoroughly, the exotic talents in that are so goofy. Be like “here’s a famas. Thats it thats the talent”

[hybrid ore]

You know it's bad when the movie was somehow less awful than the ending to 3.

[raw minnow]

See note above, I'm here to grind and be mad

[keen ridge]

Any tips for farming exotics? I need the momento been farming countdown and summit but no luck so far

[raw minnow]

Rip exotic caches from currency of countdown

[jagged prism]

thought i read or heard people fans of borderland weren't fans of hte movie

[raw minnow]

But other than that, may the rng gods be with you

[elfin verge]

Tbf they were named items and later made into exotics. There is a reason you can equip multiple exotics at the same time

[cold narwhal]

Wait what

[hybrid ore]

@keen ridge Priority Objectives/Countdown+caches/Summit+Directives.

[jagged prism]

those 2 are you best chanes

[keen ridge]

Ok ty anyway

[raw minnow]

The movie appealed to people who knew nothing of BL which is exactly what they wanted

[raw minnow]

You can buy exotic caches from countdown vendor?

[hybrid ore]

Except the twist only worked if you had both played 1, and didn't remember playing 1.

[keen ridge]

You can?

[cold narwhal]

Correction: the movie appealed to no one 🤣

[elfin verge]

224 countdown credits per cache

[hybrid ore]

@keen ridge but I digress, Priority Objectives 100%, if you just want random Exotics.

[jagged prism]

yes

[raw minnow]

Mine was rhetorical since I stated it already lol

[cold narwhal]

Why did you say “rip” though?

[keen ridge]

Ok ty as well

[raw minnow]

Meant rip like ripping open a pack

[cold narwhal]

Ohh

[raw minnow]

Not RIP

[hybrid ore]

Do you rip open crates?

That sounds painful.

[raw minnow]

Am I even too millennial for this chat? God I feel old elsewhere

[keen ridge]

I didn't even know there was a vendor for countdown lmao

[raw minnow]

Skibidi rizz those exotic countdown chests?

[cold narwhal]

Im 40 you’re fine

[hybrid ore]

The temptation to start talking in australian slang is overwhelming, but I'll be good.

Think of it as british rhyming slang, but if you're drunk.

[elfin verge]

And yet somehow it's also decently coherent

[jagged prism]

that's not an irish thing?

[raw minnow]

The alcohol actually makes things more coherent

[hybrid ore]

If you suggst that the Irish use british anything, they can legally set you on fire.

[raw minnow]

Death by potato cannons

That's the new exotic I want, potato cannon

[jagged prism]

oh no i meant the drunk part

[cold narwhal]

Just start calling everyone a bogan?

[hybrid ore]

Nah that's too suburban.

[cold narwhal]

This is true. It’s coded into the Irish constitution

[hybrid ore]

The issue with australian slang is that most of it is just metaphors.

We drink more overall, but there's more space in between so it evens out.

[cold narwhal]

Why were potato cannons such a huge thing when i was in like 6th grade and then they disappeared from the face of the earth

[raw minnow]

I definitely went through that phase

It's because it was hair spray and fire

Yay First Sight dttooc

[jagged prism]

now sell/deconstruct it (> <)

[cold narwhal]

I guess makeshift artillery made from pvc pipe gets you reported to the fbi these days

[scarlet musk]

insert happy for you meme

[raw minnow]

And now to never use it

[jagged prism]

sounds like my stash of exotics

[raw minnow]

I'll continue expertising my shotguns with this PFE/Intimidate/Adrenaline Rush

[cold narwhal]

Sounds like my stash, and soon to be expanded stash 😂

[raw minnow]

I can't wait to horde other things

[jagged prism]

dunno what i'm going to do with 100 more items 👀

[cold narwhal]

I have 300 pieces of “well you never know, i might need this someday “

[elfin verge]

You know there's a deconstruct option right? xD

[raw minnow]

Continue using Striker's is the answer

[jagged prism]

mine doesn't even leave stash really

built one up after getting Oreo to hear that bz...reloading XD

[cold narwhal]

I only keep godrolled stuff with good stat / talent combos and I still filled up 2 and a half characters 😂

[hollow sonnet]

@hybrid ore hey again! I do appreciate the help yesterday that you gave me and I'm just wondering at the moment I just finished the New York intro I guess I have the watch and I'm back in Washington and I'm trying to just figure out where to go from here division two seems a lot more complicated than Division One regarding how to build yourself and lots more variety etc and I really want to get into this i'm just not sure where to start there's just icons everywhere and I'm super confused

[jagged prism]

i used to keep some builds ona second 40

[elfin verge]

Omg I think I only have 150 things in total across 3 chars

[hollow sonnet]

Not sure if we're allowed to ping moderators or not sorry if that wasn't okay

[jagged prism]

fresh 40? fill in your library by sacrificing gear/weapons. pick a build playstyle and run with it

[cold narwhal]

Well i also keep at least one of every named item, exotic, and gearset

[jagged prism]

expertise will probably be the harder thing to accomplish

[cold narwhal]

That’s what eats up the most space I reckon

[hollow sonnet]

but where do i go?

[cold narwhal]

Go?

[jagged prism]

i've tried, i've kept exotics i do have, most named items others that's not DZ exclusive i pretty much deleted, same with gearsets

[jagged prism]

sounds like a fresh level 40 character

[hollow sonnet]

yes

[cold narwhal]

You don’t go anywhere, you stay here forever and ever and ever

[scarlet musk]

Hostage of DC

[kind veldt]

just look at what you want to do and do it at this point

[cold narwhal]

Have you done all invaded strongholds? All helicopter missions? All manhunts? Raids, incursion, legendaries

[hollow sonnet]

dont think so

[cold narwhal]

Is your open world always on heroic and at least 2 directives?

Thats basically where you “go” 😭

Countdown, descent, summit, global events

It’s basically about perfecting your builds, getting to shd 1000 and challenging yourself at this point

[hollow sonnet]

how does that watch work? i ahve to select an attributwe

[jagged prism]

you get 1 attribute selction per level from each category. no redos of it so choose carefully

[cold narwhal]

You put a point in something every time you level up until 1000. After that its for materials

[jagged prism]

once you reach 1000 SHD you'll have it all maxed out

[cold narwhal]

Once you reach 3000 shd you’ll have an existential crisis

But you’ll push past it when you accept that you were probably going to waste that time regardless 🤣

[jagged prism]

lol, thanks i needed that laugh

👀 their 6k shd and wonders

[cold narwhal]

Im at 7k I think

💀

[real creek]

The SHD arms race...

[signal grail]

It's like ripping open booster packs type of sentencing.

[jagged prism]

think my waifu just left me for Beema

[signal grail]

Cracking open boxes... etc

[cold narwhal]

On the plus side if you start a new character at that level you’re nearly set for life on materials

[signal grail]

Isn't 1000 SHD basically the maxed out and onwards is basically w/e at that point.

[jagged prism]

the post 1k is that much more scavenging points

[cold narwhal]

You gain health for a while

[real creek]

Bro is yapping, what are you on?

[signal grail]

Yeah I'm at 300 so far.

[jagged prism]

wouldn't you like to know? hides drugs

[signal grail]

Bro the newest drug is Final Fantasy Magic the Gathering. Better save up homes.

[jagged prism]

oh god i saw that and was like hmm 🤔

[signal grail]

People are gonna go crazier than black frioday when it comes out.

I'm 1000% sure it will not arrive in stock on release day, it will all be pre-pre-pre sold out prior to preorders.

Better start networking.

[cold narwhal]

Im simultaneously too old to start mtg and old enough to remember the original mtg addictions my friends had

[signal grail]

Nah its just FF x MTG is too lucrative and its coming June i think.

Like, temporarily gonna be even crazier than Pokemon cards.

[jagged prism]

i miss those

[signal grail]

Friend is investing a minimum of 1.6k usd for FF x MTG.

[jagged prism]

like i would've invested in them old old old Dual Lands

[signal grail]

Me: mbn coz im saving up for a ps5 and a pc lmao, rip FF x MTG
him: broooo its the best time to make money out of MTG
me: does it look like i can?

[cold narwhal]

I genuinely started thinking about playing pogs the other day. Time to put me in a home

[jagged prism]

but i rarely play it now a days so it's not a priority

[signal grail]

Tazos brooo tazossssss...

[elfin verge]

No not the tazos lol

[sterile cedar]

I have almost a complete set of Unlimited

[jagged prism]

though, there's a game i think would be fun if we got more add ons for it is Joking Hazard XD

[signal grail]

Balatro too good doesn't need dlc

[cold narwhal]

Gambling addicts in the making. You love to see it

[signal grail]

Prices for FF x MTG is too ridiculous.

Like, we thought buying Eternal Masters / Double Masters / Modern Masters was already on the extreme end.

I have to miss out on FF x MTG sadly.
PS5 and PC be like.

But FF x MTG is too lucrative..... 👀

[hollow sonnet]

how do i get more shd points?

[signal grail]

the shd point to unlock new gadgets?

[jagged prism]

wait until those FF cards stop getting printed. imagine the prices of those cards then XD

[signal grail]

that's the problem. we know its money the gathering finally after like 12 years.

[sterile cedar]

Reserved list better hehe

[kind veldt]

while i do like my green and red aggro deck, that seems a bit more #off-topic-discussions

[signal grail]

True, one last addition, cloud is green and red.

[hollow sonnet]

#ask-td2-community message this

[full zinc]

run control points. that chanel has a pin about shd farming

[tough adder]

is there no way to get the lexington now?

[real creek]

No.

There is no way to get it currently.

[tough adder]

rip

[jagged prism]

apparently during last live stream "we will give those who hasn't had a chance to get lexington another shot" if they remember it or not

[gritty pagoda]

anyone know how to get the blueprint Legatus Vigil named backpack?

I heard it was Descent - is this correct?

[azure lintel]

Check your in-box for guide on how to connect with the Live Help Desk for issues that require immediate assistance. For non-immediate issues, stay on the server and wait for our community moderators to attend to you.@@gritty pagoda

[gritty pagoda]

what?

sounds like a stupid bot

any humans know the answer?

[small spear]

it's not dropping

not the first time this happened, but it's affecting everyone

[gritty pagoda]

so the blueprint would drop during normal open world gameplay?

[small spear]

it would be from descent normally

but it's not dropping from recon caches

[gritty pagoda]

ok, but not dropping in Descent either?

[small spear]

ye

[gritty pagoda]

I see

[small spear]

I'm still waiting for Backbone blueprint myself

[gritty pagoda]

I have several Vigils, but the rolls are less than optimal, so I wanted to try my luck crafting some. alas, no blueprint

[lunar hare]

@tender wave this a bot? (srry for bothering you)

[unique bramble]

There is a grammatical error so I don't think so.

[tender wave]

Honestly not enough data to tell yet. Very odd though.

[lunar hare]

well, sorry for tagging you

[somber pewter]

Anyone on Australia time zone?

[polar beacon]

Quick question, so I found the snitch on my alt character and got to Danny and he has no items available but I haven't been to him all week what should I do I reset it twice. Cassie has items for purchase??

[plain plume]

there a channel for raging?

cuz i just FFFFFFFFFing disconnected on the manhunt on the final boss

[tender wave]

No worries. For non urgent stuff like this you can also just DM the modmail bot with the message link so any of the mods can take a look when they get online.

[inner elbow]

Yea but I'm on PC tho

[misty path]

did st. elmo get a nerf between me logging out a few hours ago and logging back in just now? why is mag size only 50

[carmine haven]

Hey guys what’s the best way to farm the eagle bearer

[misty path]

sell your soul

[carmine haven]

Fair

[misty path]

i think the only ways to get it are dark zone or raid

[jagged prism]

guarnteed is living in Dark Hour raids, other way is praying you get it to drop in DZ and you extract it

[carmine haven]

What are the rate drop for the raid?

[jagged prism]

couldn't say. got mine a long time ago and never ran it again

[carmine haven]

Alright thanks

[tranquil tusk]

Did you by chance had that one passive modifier active that reduces your mag in exchange for RoF?

[carmine haven]

Hey question what is the difference in normal or discovery on the dark hours raid

[tranquil tusk]

discovery is basically an easier variant of the raid (i think mainly in the mechanics). Raid exotics cannot drop from them.

[carmine haven]

Damn that means I got to find 6 people to que with eh?

[misty path]

i did, i must have just not noticed earlier

that makes sense, i equipped a kingbreaker for the first time and it had a mag size of 15 and i was really struggling to understand why people like it

[jagged prism]

if you and one other player always play together, yes gotta find 6 otherwise it's 7

[carmine haven]

How hard is it to do?

[lunar hare]

not that hard if you follow the team and their instructions as you're new to raids

look for a FTC group

[misty path]

unethical journey mission tip: revived enemies count as an additional kill towards any enemy type-based missions

just got 125 throwers at long range done in about 10 minutes on a hacked revive drone summit floor

[molten spire]

Discovery is a noob trap not worth bothering with for either raid

Normal is where it's at - check the LFG channels for your platform here for raid runs open to first timers

Raiding for most raiders requires two builds - either all red all crit Striker, or all red all crit high end https://lite.evernote.com/note/0d1135cf-139c-394e-53f6-02c1b8b4cea9

[main lichen]

can any body tell me why on eu server server as restarted like 4 days in a row now

[molten spire]

after... stuff a while back individual servers in a cluster conduct individual restarts more often

unfortunately you drew the short straw all four times

[full zinc]

hopefully all these poor souls that still need a lex will heed the previous warnings and have a level 40 agent ready to claim it and inventory space to hold it... im sure there wont be any whining about a 3rd drop giving level 1 lexington ...
who am i kidding, i keep the 🍿 warm and salty

[jagged prism]

make some for all of us?

[bleak nova]

Hello, i know this is d2 chat but does anyone still have gear spreadsheet for division 1? With GE back i want to get back into it

[molten spire]

My timeline for visiting a local Garrett's outlet and buying a tin bucket keeps shifting to the right

[carmine haven]

So is there anyway to get the lex if you didn’t get on to claim it??

[molten spire]

hope they give it again

[lunar hare]

No

[tender dock]

be cooler if they gave it the old LVOA sound from Div 1

[zinc lichen]

i heard that it might be dropped again next year or whatever it is

dont hold me on that some random guy told me that

[jagged prism]

i watched a summary video of the dev stream and sounds like they want to do something to give people another chance at it, but who knows

[lunar hare]

I would've blocked that dude. Seems like the guy who recommends/uses Striker's NBB.

[molten spire]

respect muh build

[jagged prism]

what's wrong with NBB + striker? O_O

[lunar hare]

"New God Tier Build that dominates Master difficulty!!!"

[jagged prism]

yus!

though, i'm impressed with a video i saw recently. OD + Bluescreen for master difficulty

[deft cobalt]

Anyone know where to find this snitch guy? Ive been looking for the better part of 3 hours and im about to give up

[jagged prism]

think he's just randomly spawns for everyone

[deft cobalt]

Im cooked bro

[cyan narwhal]

where survivability

[glossy ember]

Can i get nemesis by targetfarming in countdown?

[lunar hare]

If you have the blueprint, yes.

[jagged prism]

the spawning can probably be hindered if when you goto the spots on the map and you got hostiles in the area, but i don't know for sure

[jagged prism]

question i have is which blue print? 🤔

BP to craft it or bp to reconfigure it? (> <)

[lunar hare]

it's the same lol
drops from Chuck in GWH

wait... was it chuck?

[jagged prism]

seems plausible

Puck?

[lunar hare]

puck! thank you

[jagged prism]

well, we were 50/50 right with the uck in the name XD

[lunar hare]

I was pretty close lmao

[jagged prism]

but teh GWH is correct though

been so long i totally forgot that we needed that invaded to get the blue print to craft it honestly

i can only imagine the pains people go through these days. as we only had 3 strong holds and that was connected to capital being invaded right?

[full zinc]

that old grind is irrelevant now. just gotta wait for the gwh invaded , do tidal and the other stronghold thats invaded. goto gwh and get blueprint. only need 2 pieces, and once you have the blueprint nemesis is in the loot pool. can literally farm it in a single session

[jagged prism]

i've already done all that, just thinking of the new players who want that sniper. i got it, just collects dust in my stash

[full zinc]

new agents can have it within an hour or 2 now, is what im saying

also, manning give a random piece an agent may be missing

[jagged prism]

probably faster with a generous agent who's gotten it before too XD

[full zinc]

its literally 3 missions and a couple cd runs.

nothing like before

[slate fractal]

Oooo just spent $20 and got a free mask lmao, gotta stay looking good in the division.

[sour mason]

Sucks I missed the Lexington drop a couple of months ago seems like a great weapon for some great builds

Anyways hope td2 is going well for everyone, I finally took over the whole map for the first time it was fun🤣

[rotund elk]

may be a chance for one on tomorrows stream

[sour mason]

Meh it's fine I'm not worried about it, I'm still having fun without it

Just got ouroboros and backfire tho from my first run in the incursion and kinda liking both of them

[muted coral]

Anyone else having just some terrible luck getting exotics?

[elfin verge]

Nope. Are you doing your priority objectives?

Also Global Events for caches? Countdown for credits for caches?

They are easy to get these days

[muted coral]

I've been doing countdown with my targeted loot set for 5 hours now and no exotic drops lol

[jagged prism]

tomorrow?

[elfin verge]

Bad luck unfortunately. At least you should have a ton of credits to spend on exotic caches

Don't forget Danny Weaver sells them for textiles too

[muted coral]

I got some terrible stuff from the caches aswell

ive never had this much trouble before

[elfin verge]

Ok so you are getting exotics, just not the ones you want xD

[muted coral]

well im mainly talking about getting the exotics to drop in countdown

Usually I would get one every 2 runs but its been like 30 runs so far and nothing

[obtuse shoal]

Summit is where you target farm exotics

Countdown's exotics come from opening the caches and it's random

[dim fern]

Lol yas exactly XD 🩼🐒

[muted coral]

really because I always got exotic drops from countdown but never summit?

[kind veldt]

RNG at the end of the day

dont thinkg about it too hard

thats how they get to you

they know you want them

[elfin verge]

The game 100% knows when you want something specific 👀

[jagged prism]

i watched a video because i saw someone asking about getting a bighorn. so i googled and saw a video from 2023 or 2024? floor 10 summit farm and what do you know they got a bighorn on their stream lol

[kind veldt]

i got mine the hard way

legendary missions farming

talk about wasting a saturday

[jagged prism]

pretty sure the person was asking for someone to carry them in the legendary farming

[jagged prism]

that was rough wasn't it?

[obtuse shoal]

Summit has higher exotic drop rates especially from floor 50 and above

at least it used to be, and no news that it was ever changed

[muted coral]

Starting over is so exhausting 😭

[jagged prism]

yeah, no clue honestly. streamer was like "here's a method to get bighorn" showed floor 10 summit

might've been running HF i forget, but he took down the boss and boom big horn lol

[obtuse shoal]

bighorn drops by floor bosses (10th to 90th) on legendary, nothing more

[muted coral]

Should I do heroic summit or challenging summit for exotic drops then

[obtuse shoal]

i'd say always the highest difficulty you can handle for anything

[jagged prism]

least the summit farm is a bit quicker

redundant but quicker

[lunar hare]

tenth floors are the best if you don't like countdown, but I'd say it's a lot more effective since you're killing named bosses

[jagged prism]

think the streamer mentioned higher floors tend to have a more bosses to kill

i feel there was something about fixing 100 floor summit. could that have been trying to keep people from using an alt or something with floor 100 saved?

[obtuse shoal]

most likely

[muted coral]

I mean I can handle heroic the only thing I cant handle is rouge agents lmao

[molten spire]

Yeah it was blocking them from saving it

[kind veldt]

at some point you have more bosses

like 2 bosses in higher floors i mean

[jagged prism]

i assume same account blocking? as i think it'd be tough to have another account and have 100 saved there XD

[kind veldt]

that is what he should be talking about

[obtuse shoal]

Scorpion or St. Elmo for the rogues; Reversal+By the Teeth outright delete them

[jagged prism]

what about next season modifiers? i hear they're going to be great

[obtuse shoal]

Run and gun wet dream; I'm looking forward to them

[jagged prism]

🤔 oh?

HF build?

Umbra maybe?

[elfin verge]

I didn't pay enough attention to them in the PTS, but as long as there is no more of that requital thing they'll be fine

[obtuse shoal]

sure anything that doesn't glue you to covers

[jagged prism]

i only saw a summary video and they said enemies will only have 1 modifier, the new modifiers won't be just weapon based, some skill will work as well or soemthing

[elfin verge]

The one that sets fire to enemies that are pulsed might be fun

[obtuse shoal]

the momentum stacks stop decreasing when you are sprinting (or pulsing enemies whatever that means)

[jagged prism]

so bluescreen builds will come out?

[elfin verge]

Oh no not Bluescreen

[obtuse shoal]

i'm thinking technician's laser pointer

[jagged prism]

why not? it pulses doesn't it?

[elfin verge]

It does yeah, I just can't stand that weapon

[jagged prism]

i was the same way until a recent video. was like wait what?!

[wild hemlock]

Yeah with heartbreaker 😫😭💀

[obtuse shoal]

it pulses, technically

just doesn't seem very reliable to me personally

[elfin verge]

The laser didn't work with the Microwave Coils modifier, i.e. the one that has a % chance to set fire to the pulsed target

[jagged prism]

video demonstrated whatever stacks you muster up with bluescreen and you kill, it'll do that stack mechanic i think? least the full stacks did it and i was blowna way

[obtuse shoal]

It does, just not always for some reason

But free CC is free CC

[elfin verge]

However, both the remote pulse and the scanner drone would re-proc the fire with each scan

[jagged prism]

yeah, the build they used though was OD

[wild hemlock]

Day 675 of trying to get Rock n Roll…. Stuck with a fully Maxed out ACS-12 w/ Braisen (I can’t spell it but it’s the one that does amp dmg per 4 pellets) 💀

[full zinc]

banshee should proc as well, right?

[elfin verge]

In theory

[full zinc]

pulse and disorient afaik

[jagged prism]

named caches?

[elfin verge]

Brazen?

[full zinc]

newer shotgun talent

[wild hemlock]

Does banshee freeze suicide bombers? Wanted to send the vid here but don’t have said permission

[wild hemlock]

Yeah that!!!

[full zinc]

yes, well super slomo

very useful tbh

[jagged prism]

Rock N roll is a DZ exclusive shotgun

[wild hemlock]

I clipped it!!! It slowed him down so much I was able to reload,
And kill him 💀😭

[wild hemlock]

So I gotta risk it for a biscuit…. 😫

[elfin verge]

Named caches is the way

[obtuse shoal]

or farm the GE now and buy named caches

[jagged prism]

legacy also works but you're going through a crap ton of gears/weapons for each season

[full zinc]

no permissions in this channel but #ask-td2-community and #td2-build-advice both are able to share vid/image. just dont link a personal youtube cause that falls into promo.. but direct upload is fine

[wild hemlock]

Yeah I been farming CD and blowing the credits on NC’s and exotics

[jagged prism]

rock and roll is just a named shotgun, but i imagine the exotic caches was for something else?

[wild hemlock]

Yeah I need NEMESIS…. For:… research purposes 😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️

[full zinc]

keep an eye on cd vendor items other than the caches. dz exclusives regularly go on sale

[wild hemlock]

Oouuuuu 🤯

[jagged prism]

plus the 3 different dz vendors too i think? but they take DZ resources

[elfin verge]

A regular ACS 12 or Lefty will suffice just fine in the meantime

[full zinc]

do you have the nemesis blueprint?

[wild hemlock]

Nope. Never got it. Wait lemme log in and see

[obtuse shoal]

yeah then you won't get it from caches

[full zinc]

it wont drop from caches or target loot then

[jagged prism]

BP came from Invaded Grand Washington Hotel

[wild hemlock]

So i been wasting credits in caches hoping for it to drop…. 😡

🤦🏽‍♂️

[obtuse shoal]

you need to have acquired it before it starts dropping from the loot pool

[full zinc]

lots of solid exo components

[wild hemlock]

Then how the heck do I get something I need a blueprint for?! 😫

[obtuse shoal]

do the... thing

[full zinc]

only need the bp. its added after that regardless of project complete

[elfin verge]

Run Tidal, get the Adrestria, deconstruct, get the project

[wild hemlock]

I’m selling my soul for a rock 🪨😭

[full zinc]

if someone drops you one, its also not added to the pool

[obtuse shoal]

or if someone drops you one, that would save you a lot of trouble

[wild hemlock]

Long as I got it I don’t care at this point 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[wild hemlock]

IM TRYNA TELL YA 🤣

[full zinc]

yeah, pretty much.

[wild hemlock]

Bless the land 🙏

[viral pond]

does the master event stick around after the next season?

[wild hemlock]

Think imma change my PSN to UnCookedGritz

[wild hemlock]

Dunno 🤷🏽‍♂️

I say run to YouTube and see

[jagged prism]

i'd imagine it would

[wild hemlock]

Yeah it would make sense

[obtuse shoal]

we will know soon

[wild hemlock]

Cap 🧢

[jagged prism]

i feel it would be tough to pull it out because it's not the season for it as it's already in the game

[viral pond]

And what about all the modifiers - do we refarm all thoughs for the new season - its all a bit confusing

[jagged prism]

nope this seasons goes poof into the nether

[elfin verge]

It'll go into the legacy manhunts

[obtuse shoal]

modifiers will be replaced with new ones from the new season

[molten spire]

you keep all your gear, no seasonal characters anymore

[viral pond]

?? i don't know what you mean by seasonal characters you've always kept your gear

[elfin verge]

They were considering adding seasonal characters but scrapped it. Modifiers are changing with the new season, but everything else stays

[jagged prism]

basically each season you'd need to create a new character and level it to 40 and then do the manhunt stuff until the season ends

[viral pond]

wow i've never heard of that - i've not been gone from the game that long - hte only time to create a new character is to abuse the watch level

[jagged prism]

yeah, that was their plans. huge backlash from fans and they scrapped it

[obtuse shoal]

yeah if I wanted to play poe/diablo i'd go play poe/diablo

[jagged prism]

got a semi huge backlash for this season modifires from the sound of it so we get new modifiers but better next season

honestly though. i'm going to kind of miss it. least the highlighting mobs aspect when you aim at them

[viral pond]

last/this season the global modifers were pretty harsh - but when they nerfed them it worked out to be an advantage

^particularly the distance modifier i think

[jagged prism]

probably the one that "medium range you take reflective damage" part?

[obtuse shoal]

new modifiers seem better but we haven't seen how tough the Frenzied enemies can be yet

[viral pond]

yep that one

[wild hemlock]

Like from Lv 1-40 or can the char be boosted to Lv 30 THEN get to Lv 40???

[jagged prism]

no clue, just heard we'd have to start a brand new character and get to level 40 and we'd get boosted experience

[viral pond]

if you have wony expansion you automatically boost to 30

[obtuse shoal]

20% armor/health regen per second on an enemy is probably gonna wreck builds without burst DPS

[wild hemlock]

Yeah I know I’m saying it’d be less of a hassle from Lv 1-40 when I can just boost the char to get to 40 and do the event, and stash everything over to my main

[wild hemlock]

That’s would be delicious 🤤

[jagged prism]

even then, i'd hate to start at 30, work my way to 40 then do the manhunt stuff

[molten spire]

you will Headhunter or bust

[viral pond]

well that would be nice - but then that would happen only if they raise the level cap - not sure i'm up for that grind

[jagged prism]

does sniper turret count? 🤔

[molten spire]

granted the way the journey stuff this season was laid out it definitely feels like the design was that it would start at 1 - why else would you pulse 10 times or sticky bomb something as many times

[wild hemlock]

Lowkey wouldn’t mind a new lv cap (50-60) but then again I’m max lv, very good builds and im still being one shorted so it wouldn’t make sense

My SHD LV is 845 atm

They say once you hit 1000 you’ll do better, but I’m seen people SHD Lv 2,000+ get one shotted

[viral pond]

i'm not regrinding all the gear if the they change the level cap - i would be done

[wild hemlock]

I’ll suffer with you if they do

[molten spire]

at endgame if you mess up and get oneshotted, you were going to get oneshotted regardless of SHD level or build

[undone timber]

OSP best tank build