td2-general-chat

[dry latch]

Just seen kamikazie do a video on it that’s why I was asking

But not sure if it’s intended

[brittle folio]

For strictly leveling up, Public Executions are mathematically the fastest XP per minute. PERIOD

That chart is garbage.

[full zinc]

Its broken. Causes server issues. Itll get attention like the other similar farms

[full zinc]

It's not the chart. Executions are fast. But the travel time isnt included in that 40sec right. ... so that needs to be figured into the shd/hr

[brittle folio]

I AM including the travel time

[frail coral]

bro is the flash in the game xD

[full zinc]

Fr

[brittle folio]

I can prove it

[dry latch]

What build ?

[frail coral]

lady death for the speed boost xD

and modifier

[full zinc]

Not needed.. I've ground out a lot of xp In my 7k hours

[brittle folio]

VILE Jammer

[full zinc]

But feel free to record and link me something

[dry latch]

7k 👀 I shall bow

[brittle folio]

39k here

[full zinc]

Falling short

[dry latch]

Seems unrealistic ngl

[brittle folio]

It's half of his?

[dry latch]

I seen someone with 11k on a game and almost fainted

[brittle folio]

Roughly

[dry latch]

39k between accounts ? Cause if so that’s impressive asf, I could never play one game for that long

[brittle folio]

3,900 to be clear, I miswrote it, my apologies

[dry latch]

Oh okay lol that’s why I said unrealistic 😂

I was about to say

[nocturne hare]

Was gonna say that's like 4.5 years lol. About my world of warcraft played lol in almost 20 years time though

[weak rock]

on heroic?

[brittle folio]

Fk me, 39,000? Yeah, that would be insane

[dry latch]

Ikr 💀

[brittle folio]

Challenging with 5 directives pays more than Heroic with 5

[weak rock]

what

i don’t think that’s true

[brittle folio]

Look at the map yourself and see

It's 100% true, look for yourself

[tender quartz]

whut

[unique bramble]

source?

[brittle folio]

Don't take my word, just open the map

[dry latch]

Could you post your build ? I’m always looking for new things to try never heard of VILE Jammer

[full zinc]

It's a weak ep variant

That's why it's on challenging

[dry latch]

I haven’t used the vile mask in 3 years 😂

[unique bramble]

you just use the jammer with vile mask, it usually kills red enemies at challenging difficulty

[weak rock]

yea i could barely get that thing to kill on hard

maybe build issue but idk

[brittle folio]

Uh, I can't share a pic?

[full zinc]

Wonder why no fire? Much faster

#ask-td2-community has image perms

[dry latch]

That’s how I remeber vile with fire chem launcher

[weak rock]

put it in #ask-td2-community or something

[unique bramble]

the vile damage is half of your grenade damage + the status effects of your build, the eclipse backpack also increases damage againt enemies affected by status effect, but fire is eassier and way more effective with it.

[weak rock]

yea i know fire would be better

clearly he knows something we don’t

[full zinc]

Hotshot build clears heroic controlpoints like nothing.

[unique bramble]

or he is just lying lol

[dry latch]

Yeah I’m gonna try to throw it together after I’m off work 🤘🏻

[brittle folio]

Stinger hive, Jammer pulse, Vile Mask, China Light Backpack, Chest and gloves, status and skill damage, Bloodsucker and Glass Cannon, grupo knee and holster status and dmg, rolled to skill tier, Gunner Spec for free ammo with Pistolero directives, I end most public executions in under 30 seconds. Completed BOTH 5xp Events and gained 1000 levels. Both events, less than seven hours

[brittle folio]

The fire actually ends up being slower

[dry latch]

I’m just tryna hit 1k to have my SHD maxed out then 2k for max HP

But gonna be a long road

[unique bramble]

but with the right build it is also effective on heroic, just let the chemistry work for you.

[brittle folio]

Pics posted

There are 6 specific public executions that repeat infinitely

[weak rock]

yea?

[brittle folio]

Challenging, 5 directives, solo, all 6 will just keep spawning up

Sure, I'll post a Pic of that, hang on.

[weak rock]

is there a video of this?

[full zinc]

Only because no eclipse. Vile would also be stronger in eclipse , especially if you added glass on top...
But you do you boo. There is a pin for a reason. 😎

[brittle folio]

Again, maybe stronger but SLOWER

[weak rock]

stronger stuff tends to be faster

[full zinc]

Must make weak build, strong build no work

I needed some entertainment this am. Discord never disappoints

[unique bramble]

stronger: you can make heroic looks easy, i mean, you said to play your build on challenging instead of heroic.

[brittle folio]

Because challenging with 5 directives pays more than Heroic

[weak rock]

it does not

i looked earlier

[brittle folio]

Yes, it does

[unique bramble]

my point is: your build might be faster than eclipse on challenging, but most of the people will farm on heroic, how do your build performs on heroic?

[dry latch]

I don’t think he seen the pics Compton

[weak rock]

#ask-td2-community message

[unique bramble]

tell me about that hyena drug you are consuming

[dry latch]

heroic like over 100k better I thought

[weak rock]

heroic gives just under 100k more xp

[brittle folio]

Watch that mouth

[weak rock]

tell em

[iron gust]

Heroic ofc yields more XP but challenging is quicker to compete with status effects builds so it ends up being worth it

[dry latch]

Makes sense, can be farmed more efficiently

[full zinc]

No travel time naybe

[unique bramble]

you mean eclipse or our guy vile damage build?

[full zinc]

With travel, no

[brittle folio]

Challenging Public Execution with 5 directives is 422,000 and it's only two waves, making it quicker. Heroic is three waves

[small spear]

nope, still two waves

[unique bramble]

3 waves, source?

[full zinc]

Feel free to link me some video of a couple executions including time traveled betweer

[iron gust]

Heroic is not 3 waves it's two but it has elites that slow it down for se builds

[brittle folio]

Just two on Heroic? I thought it was three?

[weak rock]

no just two

[iron gust]

Flamethrower eclipse

[brittle folio]

Ah, that's it. Okay, my bad.

Regardless, challenging P.E.'s with 5 directives is the fastest XP per minute.

[full zinc]

Cp yields aroind twice the xp. No travel time, reset on demand. And hotshot clears pretty much as fast as the npcs spawn

[brittle folio]

And slower by ten minutes!

[iron gust]

Time travel and waiting for PEs to pop up is an issue indeed but it's somewhat predictable and time efficient imo

[dry latch]

So you just finish it and log out?

Then re log and you’re right back

[weak rock]

finish then reset control points

[full zinc]

Maybe on console. Ymmv. Its understandable not being able to headshot with a controller

[unique bramble]

your aim is bad then. no offenses.

[frail coral]

you can reset through the map.

[dry latch]

Gotcha, y’all arguing I’m learning 😂

[full zinc]

No. Map . Global settings. Reset cp

[frail coral]

i figured since you forgot how to get capacitor XDD

[full zinc]

Its 9 seconds and you're back running to the cp

[dry latch]

Ik lmao 🤣 taking a 3 years break then coming back ain’t the move

Forgot everything

[brittle folio]

I'll still level up faster! And the point is to not even have to fire a shot. Just how dense are you?

[frail coral]

How about we all stop worrying about seconds and farm xp without stressing out xD

[unique bramble]

and btw, you said that includes the travel time but there are some people that don't have SSD on their console/PC so this method of going to place A to B kinda becomes less effective for those people.

[brittle folio]

A control point takes what, 5 minutes minimum?

[dry latch]

With yalls builds less

Striker takes just about 5 min for me

[weak rock]

not at all what

[brittle folio]

The fast travel, even if it takes an entire minute, is still faster than control points

[full zinc]

Not even. Also depends on cp used tho. Sleeping giant would be a couple minutes since both attack and defend funnel NPCs

[dry latch]

So whats the point in even leveling if you’re level 6000 ? What am I missing

[unique bramble]

Plus: outcasts don't use helmets (heavies are an exception) so easy with HH.

[brittle folio]

Scavinging points for the mules

[iron gust]

A committed determined player could probably get more XP but determined 🤮
I prefer to break Geneva conventions

[brittle folio]

I don't care which control points you're doing or how you're doing them. It is mathematically proven to be quicker by A LOT to do the PE's on Challenging with 5 directives.

To complete a CP you have to stop and visit the supply room, blah, blah, blah...

[small spear]

why would you visit supply room lmao

[full zinc]

Yeah really

[brittle folio]

I thought most people do? I dunno

[small spear]

well you're only after the xp, supply room doesn't do jack

[brittle folio]

Good point

It's still a lot slower. Y'all feeding misinformation to noobs is embarrassing.

[dry latch]

Damn calling me out

[weak rock]

i wouldn’t say misinformation

just redirection to a more efficient farm for new players

[brittle folio]

The topic is "XP farming, quickest and most efficient method"

[unique bramble]

We can thank the red eyes skull for this Christmas gift

[brittle folio]

Your method is MUCH less efficient. That's just idiotic.

[full zinc]

I'm not gonna totally run down your farm because it would be easier for some. I just dispute the clam that it's the fastest.
Fast for you, sure ...

[brittle folio]

Especially for new players

[weak rock]

no it’s efficient for new players because it gives blueprints and such, but i know that’s not the topic at play right now

[brittle folio]

It is 100% PROVEN to be the fastes.

[weak rock]

that’s why i suggest it to new players though

[brittle folio]

You can't disprove it.

[frail coral]

Good to grind to 1k SHD level. After that pointless, since you only get extra health till 10k SHD level. But you can buy optimsation stuff, ecredits w levels so thats why ppl like levelling up faster

[full zinc]

Nah, provide proof

[brittle folio]

Do the math!!!

[stoic bane]

till 2k shd now

[weak rock]

health till 2k

[frail coral]

wait what? im 2.3k and i think im still gaining health. Ill login and check in a bit

[dry latch]

Yeah they made it easier

[weak rock]

you are not still gaining health

[unique bramble]

they removed that a few months ago

[frail coral]

oo

[full zinc]

Provide video and I'll calculate. Need 2 executions and travel in between

[frail coral]

didnt know

[brittle folio]

It takes me less than thirty seconds to make 422,000 xp

How is a control point faster??

[weak rock]

i’m not seeing a video though

[iron gust]

Add time travel

[brittle folio]

Another thirty seconds for fast travel

[weak rock]

so 2 minutes for a level

[brittle folio]

There's a chart on Reddit, too I think

[weak rock]

roughly

[unique bramble]

well, so I assume you are on Xbox one, series s/x don't have a SSD that slow.

[brittle folio]

Well, it takes me about 5 seconds to fast travel

[unique bramble]

ah, got it.

6 FTs

[brittle folio]

Two minutes per level is still faster than a control point, for a new person

[full zinc]

It's just a claim. I will concede the point if you provide some video evidence. I would need to calculate the xp/hr from actual proof, not a claim

[dry latch]

Fast travel on PS5 is roughly 15-20 seconds, they aren’t as slow as you think

[brittle folio]

There's videos all over youtube.

[weak rock]

and we aren’t seeing any?

[full zinc]

Your claim, your gameplay proof

[weak rock]

so like share one

[brittle folio]

Alright, hang on

[frail coral]

i swear they been asking for proof for like the entirety of this argument. but you never provide xD

even last argument lol xD

[unique bramble]

I thought he was saying 30s for a single fast travel, that's why I got confused for a sec there. I have a SSD on my ps4 it's just 3-6 secs slower than ps5 loading time.

[brittle folio]

I shouldn't have to, it's common knowledge.

[frail coral]

but tbf you have xbox, so maybe harder to provide idk

[dry latch]

Ahh gotcha

[full zinc]

I wonder why 🤔

[frail coral]

not when 5-6 ppl are arguing against your point

And its not like they are fresh to the game

[iron gust]

The issue with pes is sometimes the game takes its time spawning them.
The absolute most efficient XP activity will depend how much you like HH/determined vs eclipse/fast traveling the map.
Both get boring

[full zinc]

Obv not that common...

[brittle folio]

There's six specific ones that repeat endlessly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01eSFIUw5nw

[full zinc]

This better not be a kvd video

[small spear]

tux

[full zinc]

[dry latch]

I love him

😭

[iron gust]

Even more boring

[tropic compass]

My journey mission 6 is bugged, says I have it completed even though I've only done 3/6 😅😅

[brittle folio]

Look, I never said it wasnt a grind

It's definitely boring and grindy

[full zinc]

Oh fk

Lmfao

[brittle folio]

Tux is a good dude, what you have against him?

[unique bramble]

at least it isn't the kamiscum lol

[brittle folio]

I know Kami, and that's a terrible thing to say.

[frail coral]

same. but you dont get reward, so carry on w it xD

[brittle folio]

As in, I know him poersonally

[dry latch]

I love Kami why the hate ?

[iron gust]

Used to (or still does dunno) put his builds behind a paywall

[brittle folio]

Oh, I didn't know about that

[tropic compass]

Sad its only a visual bug not a gameplay bug

[weak rock]

his builds suck

[frail coral]

yes imagine. Easy finish xD THey already gave us easy completion of battle pass tho xD well to some people.

[weak rock]

all of the good builds already had videos made about them

[dry latch]

I just watch him play dz I keep builds simple he gets to in depth

[grand dove]

Today I've heard kenly, keenly, kensly, and my personal favourite kebley college

[lunar hare]

oh yeah put skill haste on an already 100% Skill haste attribute from Nightwatcher
definitely good...

[grand dove]

Not to mention his toxicity when challenged

[frail coral]

opportunity cost doesnt exist in his world xD

[dry latch]

Gets the point to ya no matter how it’s spelled 🤠

[full zinc]

Good thing we have the best source of builds pinned in #td2-build-advice . Paywall free

[brittle folio]

90% of those builds are trash, and so are the people that shared them

[unique bramble]

yeah I think the few division tubers I like is Dod-Regnbue because he really tries to make a good build based on DPS formula, not only because the gear has a giant red attribute saying "damage". and NGN because well, I like to talk about the lore of this franchise.

[full zinc]

Lmao, ok buddy.

[grand dove]

The perfect glass cannon salesman

[unique bramble]

the what ?

[grand dove]

He preaches glass cannon alot, so it was just a joke

It's like iKia with the famas

[brittle folio]

The meta ones are okay, but most of the builds I saw in there were only decent for like PvE.

And much of them are obsolete now because of the buff/nerfs

[unique bramble]

maybe because only like 10% of the content of this game is pvp?

[brittle folio]

Maybe?

[lunar hare]

YT ones are trash. Admit it

[brittle folio]

Yep, most of the time

[unique bramble]

I mean, you really expected more pvp builds than pve?

[weak rock]

all of the builds in that sheet get updated every major change

[brittle folio]

Not really, I was just disappointed.

To be fair, I haven't looked in a few months

[weak rock]

theres a separate place for pvp builds

[full zinc]

Most of the builds are pve/raid/incursion.
There is a pvp build guide.

[weak rock]

most people dont care about pvp so it makes sense to not care about them as much as pve builds

[brittle folio]

Those are useful especially to newer people, for sure.

[lunar hare]

uhhh basically?

[weak rock]

i mean yea

[frail coral]

duhhh

[weak rock]

experienced players dont really need help making builds

unless you are getting to like the math between builds and deciding on setup is best

[kind veldt]

I have absolutely no clue how much crit damage i have any build, they are under the category of good enough

[lunar hare]

wild red birb appeared

[frail coral]

birb

[spring solar]

i can get btsu gloves from countdown right?

[weak rock]

yes

[brittle folio]

And there's a conveniently located trash can at the BOO where you can toss them.

[frail coral]

Guessing you are not a healer xD

[brittle folio]

I've run healer before on Iron Horse and Incursion, but never liked thoe gloves.

[frail coral]

why not? how did you set your build up?

[spring solar]

well idk if i should use or na

[lunar hare]

keep

[frail coral]

its good to boost your heal hive

it grants overcharge every 2mins, so right before your repair hive runs out, detonate and you get p much instant repair charges at overcharge level

[brittle folio]

There are all kinds of healer builds, so I suppose it's just a matter of preference.

[lunar hare]

Just because you don't like them doesn't mean everyone else does.

[spring solar]

its not a black glove right?
cuz it wont look good on my hunter appearance since i cant apply appearances on exos

[full zinc]

this sounds like someone that loves running imperial dynasty for faster clearing...

[frail coral]

There are all kinds of healer builds, but some are more effective

[brittle folio]

Keep a TDI card custom on hand for overcharge.

[frail coral]

WHAT XD

that doesnt give OC

the OC resets your repair hive

[brittle folio]

Sure it does, I do it all the time.

[frail coral]

video proof lol

[brittle folio]

No

[full zinc]

looks like the same faulty reasoning on xp farming, is now giving faulty build information... go figure

[frail coral]

then its a lie

[brittle folio]

Your reasoning is faulty, buddy.

You simply can't stand that someone knows better than you do.

[full zinc]

keep telling yourself that.. youll start believing it soon

[brittle folio]

Look, I'll show you.

See this?

[full zinc]

so the extra core when kard in hand overcharges? thats your reasoning?

[brittle folio]

That's exactly how it works

[frail coral]

see what?

[full zinc]

now i know youre a dip sht

keep drinking that tux coolaid

[frail coral]

dont forget to turn off TDI Kard Custom OC hax before posting xD

[full zinc]

fkn dumb sht today. discord just keeps delivering today

[tender wave]

If the kard had the future perfect talent then it would

[frail coral]

he is talking about the TDI version

[full zinc]

the reasoning wsas the core specifically

[frail coral]

^

[brittle folio]

When you swap to the TDI, if you're already at skill tier six, it goes into overdrive

[full zinc]

yeah, it doesnt

[tender wave]

Repeatedly bypassing the automod swear filter is not really recommended, y'know

[kind veldt]

It doesnt, devs have made similar comment regarding that

Otherwise technician would be able to have infinite overclock

[frail coral]

Overcharge can only be proc'ed using a talent

[kind veldt]

Since it gives one extra for free

[full zinc]

eh. thats fine. still some terrible reasoning

[frail coral]

not skill tier

[brittle folio]

The logo pops up when I equip the TDI

[frail coral]

Ominous hasnt discovered +1 skill tier from tech, otherwise he be running OC full time xD

[frail coral]

for the +1 skill tier

[brittle folio]

YES

[frail coral]

which is useless if you have skill tier 6

[full zinc]

so just a PSA:
this guy is the same one trying to tell you the best xp farming methods.. take anything you hear with a grain of salt

[frail coral]

there is no skill tier 7 and overcharge doesnt get proc'ed by additional skill tier

its only proc'ed by talent

[brittle folio]

You need to quit talking crap, for real.

[frail coral]

and max lasts 15 sec

[full zinc]

who needs btsu when you got kard in hand

[fickle edge]

This guy just spreading misinformation lmao

[full zinc]

stop spewing disinformation and there wouldnt be anything to talk crap on

[brittle folio]

I have a capacitor that is getting 8 skill tiers and it shows up in the shooting range

[frail coral]

thats different to overcharge

and i was wondering if that is possible tbh

but maybe a waste also

[grand blade]

You know you can use the Apparel tab to hide most Exotic gear, right? Though ofc, most of those items cost money 😕

[tender wave]

Capacitor is not oc on skills. If you look at deployed skill and it has lightning bolt icon instead of tier number, then it's overcharged

[brittle folio]

Yeah, it gains 7.5% weapon damage from each skill tier

I never said the capacitor was OC...

[frail coral]

yhh but you are going off topic now. We were talking about overcharge

[frail coral]

you claim having more skill tiers give you overcharge

[brittle folio]

I'm just saying that YES, the capacitor receives 7.5% WD for each tier.

I can make overcharge pop up just by breaking out the TDI

[frail coral]

thats where you are wrong

[brittle folio]

The OC logo pops up, everytime

maybe a bug then?

[frail coral]

You see a symbol at the bottom, but that just signifies skill tier is active. OC can be seen right above deployed skills

[full zinc]

this is usually the way when people are spewing stuff they know nothing about. topics always seem to shift

[frail coral]

I think you are misunderstanding OC symbol or smt

[brittle folio]

Maybe?

[kind veldt]

Believe if that gave your overcharge

[full zinc]

maybe its best to not be throwing info out that you arent 100% sure of... no?

[tender wave]

Simple to test with shield: overcharged shield is invulnerable to damage, so pull out that kard and go stand in front of some chungas

[kind veldt]

People would be running with invincible shields 24/7

[full zinc]

must be why there was a shield nerf a while back

[kind veldt]

Kettle is drinking from the same fountain

[burnt tusk]

Hello.

I began playing Devision2 recently.

[frail coral]

https://prnt.sc/nAev7gU5Pln-

[burnt tusk]

Nice to see you, sirs.

[frail coral]

overcharge symbol

[brittle folio]

Ohhhhh

I thought it was the one I just showed

[frail coral]

i cant find the other symbol, but you seen it

[frail coral]

nope, its that

[brittle folio]

Ah crap, my bad

[frail coral]

you just showed tier 6 hive isntead in the other channel

[brittle folio]

I wish there was like a glossary of the symbols in this game

[full zinc]

stick around and youll learn a lot

[brittle folio]

There's still some that make nosense

[frail coral]

dont worry 🙂

[tender wave]

Even with the capacitor I don't think you'd benefit from kard custom, as you lose the tier again as soon as you switch away from the pistol

[brittle folio]

Well, yeah and you can't have two weapons in hand at the same time of course

[full zinc]

cap is actually stronger on 6red core anyways. 90%wd > 45%wd

[brittle folio]

But the cap absolutely does add more than six cores

[frail coral]

but he said skill tier 8 capacitor. its possible, but idk if it works?

[full zinc]

no

[brittle folio]

I think I had nine?

[frail coral]

how can you tell?

from the DPS?

[brittle folio]

Shooting range

[full zinc]

you didnt. you are faulting again

[tender wave]

Technician and brazos would get you to 8 easily enough

[brittle folio]

You know nothing, stop talking.

[frail coral]

yep, but does the capacitor actually count the skill tiers above 6?

[full zinc]

sure thing. im easy to shut up. stop spewing trash

[grand blade]

Welcome 🙂

[brittle folio]

Brazos, Palisades each a tier, rolled yellow on all, plus technician and that makes 8

[tender wave]

I don't know, haven't seen anyone commenting on it as it would be a deeply inefficient build to run anyway

[brittle folio]

And it adds up in the range

And it wasn't even my design, that was a Rogue gold thing

[frail coral]

yhh probably

[brittle folio]

Someone join me on Xbox and I will show you

[tender wave]

It's easy enough to test but imo not worth it regardless

[full zinc]

being that cap only gives 7.5 for a yellow core, you would actually be more efficient/stronger with 6 skilltiers and whatever red cores you can squeeze in

[frail coral]

since 1 red core dmg is 2 skill tier dmg for capacitor

[frail coral]

might aswell run this on red and have the internal skill tier for extra dmg lol

the most dmg capacitor

[kind veldt]

Ninja + picaros time to shine

[brittle folio]

I also have an eight tier weapons dmg build, Hana U and Legato

[full zinc]

#td2-build-advice message

[kind veldt]

With technician you get what? 4 skill tiers with those two pieces?

[frail coral]

finally they have been called xD

[frail coral]

lol xD most effecient buildd

[brittle folio]

Yep, the Ninja is quite useful

[kind veldt]

Not defending as good ideia

Just funny

[full zinc]

lol

[brittle folio]

Yep

[frail coral]

you'd find vigilance giving you even better dmg boost xD

since its a multiplier of all the added weapon dmg

[full zinc]

just an example of 6 skilltier, + red cores

[burnt tusk]

Thank you!

[full zinc]

does work well tho, for someone used to glass

[brittle folio]

Glass cannon

[frail coral]

ahh xD

[burnt tusk]

I lost the story plot long ago, so now I am like "I don't know who you are and what you wanna do, but please die if you bully me" to any enemies.

[full zinc]

ninja always gonna be lower damage than highend bag or memento

use if you want to kneecap yourself tho

[grand blade]

That'll work 😋

[frail coral]

lol just like me xD

kill everything around till i cant cause them to die

[burnt tusk]

Rogue with Glasses: Don't you think you shouldn't follow the orders ignorantly!?

Me: Shut up die die

[frail coral]

thats the way. Just shut up and blindly murder everyone on the map xD

[burnt tusk]

I don't even know why the Rogue with Glasses(Theo? Teo?) is giving us some mysterious manhunt quests even after I sniped his skull and shot tons of ammos to his corpse.

[frail coral]

yep theooo

idk why either xD. Some of these agents, i killed but they keep appearing lol

[burnt tusk]

Maybe he is the cousin of Marcus Holloway in Watch Dogs 2. They look similar.

[frail coral]

but known as Theo for now xD

[burnt tusk]

The most confusing event I have seen was that;

I farmed the level(not SHD one) to 40 before going to New York.

Then, some "I am a villain as you can see" dude suddenly appeared at the jail of the White House.

He told me "Now we are teaming up" etc,
but I was like "Who the hell are you".

I recently learned he is the main villain of the series named Keener.

[frail coral]

yhh idk how he is in my prison as well

I only saw him when i was like SHD 2000 lol

i was wondering how he appeared lol

[tender quartz]

I need some advice on inventory management. I'm working on like 4 builds at the same time and I'm spending more time staring at item screens than killing dudes

[burnt tusk]

Then I visited New York, and they told me "We gotta catch Keener!", so I was like "Why don't you guys just visit the White House?".

[burnt tusk]

So am I.

I donate random items for the mastery levels.

[frail coral]

that would be truu if you are trying to build 4 builds. What kinda builds are you building? But then again, you can just delete and make space and farm those again at a better time

[full zinc]

work on 1 build at a time. create all 4 agents and use the others as storage. out of sight, out of mind

[tender quartz]

why 4 builds is because "Better not sell that, might need it later"

[burnt tusk]

I feel you.

[full zinc]

thats why you put it on an alt

[frail coral]

you can farm again later xD So long you have one solid build, the rest is refarmeable

[dry latch]

Anything god rolled that I’m not using = alt

[burnt tusk]

The storehouse should contain 3,000 items, not just 300 .

[tender quartz]

how do I transfer to an alt?

[full zinc]

once you got one solid, experiment with the next

[steady magnet]

rrrrrrrrrrfffffffffff

[dry latch]

Put in stash go on alt grab it

[frail coral]

Server storage says no xD

[full zinc]

put in stash. pickup with alt

[tender quartz]

wait the stash is shared? so 4 dudes have 300 spaces between all of them?

[steady magnet]

dam wrong tab XD

[dry latch]

Alt can hold 150

[frail coral]

yeppp

[tender quartz]

mannn that sucks

[frail coral]

but 150 extra inventory space for each dude

[full zinc]

yes. 900 total if you include the alt bags

[frail coral]

300 from stash, 4 chars * 150 = 600, so total 900

[dry latch]

But I tried doing just 2 builds at once and it’s much better to just focus one until it’s perfected then do another

[burnt tusk]

Btw I am feeling another despair.

I love Resident Evil series.

I heard the Hunk skin was exclusively available in an event 2 years ago.

I'd pay my house if they gave me another chance to get it.

[tender quartz]

ok I'll just roll some mules then, maybe one for skill items, one for... useless exotics, one for dps, and one for uuuh tank

[burnt tusk]

I am mending my heart with the Sunrise costume from STALKER2.

[frail coral]

you can only roll 3 more. The first agent is your current agent

so totally, its 4 agents

[tender quartz]

oh right. ok. well in that case anything goes. Main, Skill gear, DPS gear, and Misc

[frail coral]

I'd say, Main, Raids & Incursion. And the rest is just spare

[dry latch]

💪🏻

[tender quartz]

cool cool. I'd do that if I had any clue how raids and incursion are different

[frail coral]

for now, you can do it your way

wont be difficult to sort it later i suppose

[burnt tusk]

I ignorantly went to the incursion by myself(no teammates).

The cleaners were like "You picked the wrong house fool!!".

[frail coral]

xDD

[burnt tusk]

It was even before going to New York.

[steady magnet]

i forgot about newyork opps i havent even done like 5 %

[burnt tusk]

It is like fighting against 4 NPC cheaters.

[frail coral]

lol the bombing alone is quite strong

[burnt tusk]

I cannot forgive that electric trap spammer.

[steady magnet]

with 3xp guess i might aswell do all of them

[burnt tusk]

He is like "I am a ruthless killer!", but all he actually does is to rely on his traps and steam.

[frail coral]

yupp

[frail coral]

they all chat shit until you one clip them xD

[steady magnet]

that just like what we do on some legend missions

[burnt tusk]

Btw when I killed that lady in the Cleaners,

she was like
"Ah, I have got fatal damage. Imma show my last performance!", then exploded herself.

But AFTER that, she shouted some mocking words.

Even each piece of her minced meat is talkactive.

[frail coral]

Stranded tanker? XD

i think she explodes?

[hollow remnant]

didn't know rogue agents could spawn in missions. that's pretty cool (woke me right up lol)

[burnt tusk]

Yeah.

Another funny incident I've experienced is that

I learned how to summon a Hunter on the web, and performed the ritual.

You know I am not skilled enough to kill a Hunter by myself, but atm I was trying solo.

The hunter appeared, and hacked my gadgets.

I got at a loss, but then a few hyenas entered the fight like "It is US who will kill the Agent!", and started attacking the Hunter.

The Hunter got distracted, and showed me his back while he was countering the hyenas.

[frail coral]

lol they can and make the mission easier if you can kill them since you can move on to the next encounter after 2 kills

[burnt tusk]

As a result I could kill him by myself.

I gave some tokens of my gratitude to all the hyenas.

[worthy sandal]

When is the next 3x exp event? Does anyone know?

[frail coral]

lol yhh that shit funny. I spawned a hunter by saluting the flag and half the map turned up to kill him and me xD

[lunar hare]

Already going

[worthy sandal]

Figured, havent logged in in a while but I had a hunch haha, thanks!

[frail coral]

x5 xp weekend coming in like 3-4 weeks

[worthy sandal]

Yeah but its 3x now, right?

[frail coral]

yup

[worthy sandal]

Yeah, found a new show to watch so mindlessly doing hostages for some exp doesnt hurt

[frail coral]

lol xD

[lunar hare]

what was going on in the devs minds to give us more than 4 xp events?

[frail coral]

why you complaining xD its literally so good for buying res and optimisation stuff xd

[worthy sandal]

I actually hit 40 during the last 5x event and I got up to 350~, going back to 1x exp felt really bad so I just figured Ill play during the event periods

[lunar hare]

not complaining tho
just wondering why so many lol

[frail coral]

lol xD you should optimise your build during the down time

so you can grind effeciently during xp weekend

[worthy sandal]

I found a build online that works for me to play solo or with my girl, so Im just mopping up all the achievements now really

[lunar hare]

5xXP takes 8 hours max to hit the limit
I need to make the evernote for 3xXP

[frail coral]

sounds good then!

[frail coral]

oo v nice to know!

[worthy sandal]

Any better options then to spam hostages? 👀

[lunar hare]

Last 📌 in #ask-td2-community

[burnt tusk]

[Pre-Release]

Devs: Antwon Ridgeway, you will appear as the boss of an evil army killing tons of innocent people.

Ridgeway: Then I must be the main villain of this game!

Nat: NO?

[lunar hare]

pretty much top (non-exploit) xp method

[burnt tusk]

I am expecting some "Far Cry" events where Hurk visits DC.

[frail coral]

i havent played far cry xD

[burnt tusk]

It's exciting as well.

But honestly, Devision2 seems to be the fruit of all "What Ubi really wanted to do in other games".

[tender wave]

They're giving newer players the chance to catch up with long term ones (and maybe discouraging people from abusing xp exploits quite so much)

[burnt tusk]

Devision2 seems based on the "I wish it was like this in this game..." points.

[lunar hare]

seems quite like it

[burnt tusk]

I mean, this has the good points from Watch Dogs, Far Cry, etc, with covering the cons of each game.

[burnt tusk]

Btw Hurk is a pretty and stupid 40~60-year-old dude who shoots rocket launchers randomly.

[frail coral]

So like welwyrn from tidal basin xD

[burnt tusk]

Even though the main plot of each Far Cry game is not very tied(in the same timeline, but not influencing each other), Hurk appears in many of them.

[burnt tusk]

Welwyrn is much more clever than Hurk.

She does not worship the "Monkey God" which Hurk worships.

[frail coral]

You mean the hindu God?

[burnt tusk]

No, his original God.

[frail coral]

or is that smt else? XD

ahh xD

Tru sayy, welwyrn was gonna kill all of the white house from her own will

[burnt tusk]

@frail coral Let me introduce 1 episode of Hurk.

In Far Cry 5, there is an evil cult(the worse version of the Outcast).

Hurk originally wanted to join the cult to meet girls, and visited them.

The cult welcomed him, but told him they prohibited to date with women(no intercourse).

Hurk became like "Then I quit!", and left the cult.

However, Hurk forgot to get on the armed car, which was borrowed from his father(a conservative politician who was using the car for his political activities).

His father got very angry as a result.

After that, the protagonist of Far Cry 5 visited them, then Hurk's father ordered the protagonist to take back the car with Hurk.

Hurk and the protagonist raided the cult, killing tons of members, just for the car.

The cult was unforgivably evil, but in this case, they were like

Oh, a new member has come!
↓
Ahhh, he left. Wait, he has left his car here.
↓
[A few moments later]
↓
🚀💥💀 💀 🚀 💥 💀💀

[frail coral]

they bombed the car? XD

[burnt tusk]

🚙 ~~~~~🔥

[frail coral]

or? XD

[burnt tusk]

Not, everything but the car.

[frail coral]

Hurk bombed them and the car?

[burnt tusk]

They left from the massacre with taking back the car.

[frail coral]

ahh xD

[hallow coral]

Awesome, hard time trial mission (heroic difficulity) got Rogue Agents, counter still going.... Remember that thing was issue 2-3 years ago

[frail coral]

Hurk was dumb shit in the first place xD

[burnt tusk]

Then, Hurk's father gave another mission.

"I need to win the election! However, I will probably fail because the cultists won't vote for me! Eliminate them all so that I can win! Go with my son."

FYI the protagonist is a deputy, not a hitman.

Hurk and the protagonist raided the poor cultists and boomed all of them.

[frail coral]

lol deputy as a policeman or like deputy to the father?

[burnt tusk]

A local policeman(he was a rookie).

[frail coral]

lol a local moral policeman wiping the cult xD

just so the dad can win the election

[burnt tusk]

Actually, Hurk's father is also Hurk(senior), so the Hurk I was talking about is Hurk Jr.

Btw, there is a Far Cry game featuring the primitive age, Far Cry Primal.

Unlike other games, there is of course no gun, so you need to use bows and animals.

[grand dove]

You don't think this sudden server lag could be due to Kenley college?

[burnt tusk]

Most characters are exclusive to this game as well,

[tender quartz]

I like FC3-5... still not sure about primal because it's just bows? @burnt tusk do you recommend?

[burnt tusk]

but Hurk's ancestor named Urki(the voice actor is also the same) appears.

[tender quartz]

I really like the sport bows in FC5

I did NOT like the weird magic bow in FC4

[burnt tusk]

I haven't played the Primal by myself, but many say it is exciting as well.

[tender quartz]

Also I love the bows in Horizon

so, no idea if I'll like primal

[burnt tusk]

This means the crazy bloodline of Hurk is lasting for centuries.

[frail coral]

Wow that sounds quite cool! Also a looter?

[tender quartz]

far cry games are FPS, not looters

[frail coral]

Ahh okayyy

[burnt tusk]

More like a "stupid and primitive mad scientist with no scientific skill".

He often tries to develop useful items but always messes up.

[frail coral]

Ahh i see. Thank you for the introduction of HURK. I shall remember when I play far cry😂

[tender quartz]

I think for Far Cry you can pick up money to buy attachments and things, it's not like a looter. They tried to mix that mechanic into Far Cry New Dawn and it was pretty horrible

[burnt tusk]

[Final Fun Fact]
Urki belongs to the tribe named "Wenja" in the primitive language(not the name the modern academic people give).

Interestingly, the modern Hurk sometimes says "OK, Imma go in Wenja style", meaning Hurk somehow knows the ancient word "Wenja".

This may imply the ancient "lessons" have been passed to the modern Hurk throughout the bloodline.

[burnt tusk]

I gotta admit it as a New Dawn lover.

I am confident that I am one of those who know the most (useless) details about Far Cry New Dawn(in the Far Cry Discord server, I am called "New Dawn guy").

[keen rose]

I’m chilling in Descent

[tender wave]

Could we perhaps move this far cry discussion to #off-topic-discussions please?

[burnt tusk]

Of course. I am sorry for talking too much about it here.

[tender wave]

I realise I'm wading in at the very tail end of the conversation, but it bears remembering for next time 🙂

[tender quartz]

I forgot why I should care about getting the SHD caches in NY

[burnt tusk]

The safehouses contain some treasure boxes whose key is 5 SHD caches.

[tender quartz]

ohh ok. Never noticed them lol

[burnt tusk]

Btw I know this is a ridiculous idea to consider, but I cannot help wondering
"Even 40 level enemies come to somewhat weak in the end. Then, how weak were the 1 level enemies raiding the community in the prologue?"

[tender wave]

Tbf the loot in those boxes is awful quality (unless they fixed it recently when they gave open world boxes scaled loot).
Oh, and collecting the caches helps complete the area projects and clears the icons off the map, so there's that.

Think those projects in turn give minor upgrades to haven, including a dog to pet and a 3d printer that gives a backpack trophy

[burnt tusk]

Have you sirs experienced the glitch that

in the event where you guard a pet warhound which shoots healing pods to let you go through the area full of virus, the warhound rejects to shoot the pods?

It happened in the manhunt quest in tidalbelson.

[weak rock]

just put the trap on yourself

you get it in that part no?

[burnt tusk]

As for me,

my COOP partner kept healing us by himself so that we could go through.

That warhound was just like a slow pet.

But if I had been playing solo, it would have been the gameover.

[weak rock]

no you could have swapped your skills

[burnt tusk]

Ah, right.

[steady magnet]

wooo the tdi kard custom is in the countdown vender

[full zinc]

oh nice

snag 1 for each alt

[unique bramble]

The devs are really trying to not give us environmental snow.
2020: snowball launcher
2023: snow grenade
2024: snow on status effect

Really, they could just turn the raindrops "/" into snow "•" or add a white aspect to the sandstorm and there you go

[vivid sorrel]

I need division 1 snowstorm vibes back

[burnt tusk]

Division Agents: Can handle many firearms

Division Agents: Can use high-tech tools

Division Agents: CanNOT use a knife

Division Agents: CanNOT punch or kick

If an Agent joins a boxing match, he will be like "OMG, I cannot use a weapon!? Then I cannot attack at all!".

[unique bramble]

"Cannot Puch" my claws out build says otherwise
iirc we use a knife to cut the extraction rope in DZ.

[burnt tusk]

But not to kill enemies, right?

Also they can kick some walls to break through, but cannot kick any human.

[unique bramble]

Reminds me of that Grey skies thing that says: please do not swim, we don't have an animation for that.

[burnt tusk]

Also Division Agents cannot crouch.

[tender quartz]

you try crounching when you're carrying about 5000 rounds of ammo

and 150 different armors and weapons

while being able to sprint like Usain Bolt across the entire span of DC

[burnt tusk]

I know this should be in #off-topic-discussions , but my protagonist of Far Cry New Dawn carries about 30k ammos and 1k chunks of meat, but can crouch and jump(even double jump).

[vivid sorrel]

some knife QTEs might be cool

[unique bramble]

Why crouch when you can take cover?

[burnt tusk]

To make yourself less likely to be spotted while changing covers.

Or going though areas without any object covering you.

[tender quartz]

cactus how badly do you want this game to become Ghost Recon 😄

[burnt tusk]

Haha.

Actually I gave up Ghost Recon since it didn't launch successfully while I tried.

Anyways let's get back to Division2.

[stable otter]

People barely crouch or jump in real life, let alone crouch while moving around

[unique bramble]

Same applies to going prone in FPSs

[alpine vortex]

Happy Holidays

[burnt tusk]

Merry Christmas!

[unique bramble]

Happy Halloween people 🎃👻

[burnt tusk]

@tender quartz About Japanese dubbing,

do you know the Japanese city Osaka?

[tender quartz]

yes but wrong channel cactus 😄

[burnt tusk]

@tender quartz No, this is correct.

Because I am talking about 1 interesting fact about Division games.

Generally, when it comes to dub English games/movies into Japanese, the difference of pronunciations between Dialects tends to be ignored.

So most works are dubbed with the basic(standard) Japanese(which is basically the dialect spoken in Tokyo).

However, Division devs came up with 1 unique idea to express the difference between the English in DC and that in New York.

In the Japanese version, while most characters in DC speak in standard Japanese, some characters in New York speak in the Osaka Dialect.

Many Japanese players get gobsmacked when they hear NPCs suddenly speaking like Osaka citizens.

If the devs are to add more regions as stages in the future updates, we may hear NPCs speaking in more dialects.

As far as I know, this attempt is done only in Division series, and never in other games.

[tender quartz]

that's really cool. In the English version some civilians in NY will speak different languages like Chinese

[burnt tusk]

Awesome.

Also, the dubs on radios are done very well.

To express the casual talks including lots of "modern and young" slangs, the Japanese lines on the radio often includes the very modern slangs spoken by youngsters(like me).

Such as "マジ トーク(Maji To-ku/ Maji=Real, Serious/ To-ku=How we spell English "Talk" as a word debt noun).

In some previous works by Ubi, the dubbing was imperfect(probably due to the lack of time), but Division2 is proud of its perfect dubbing. The devs, localizers, and the voice actors(actresses) deserve to be proud of their efforts.

[torpid tendon]

I can't say the localization is that good. I mean some "slangs" are, but I think they messed up with some translations in my language. I think they mistook "tusk" for "paw" in my language.

[burnt tusk]

Oops.

Maybe I should say "At least Japanese localization is good".

[torpid tendon]

I mean, Dime's (hyena boss) voice lines are pure gold.

They made it sound like he was a cartoon character.

[burnt tusk]

I wanna hear it.

What language is yours?

[torpid tendon]

Diesel, did you die too you freaking animal, son of **(not his actual voice line in english, thats a free translation). Sounds like when you're playing some game and your friend dies lol

[torpid tendon]

Brazilian Portuguese

[burnt tusk]

Now looking for some BR clips or livestreams on YT.

[torpid tendon]

That's from district union arena stronghold for reference*

[burnt tusk]

Yeah, I just found 1 clip.

It actually sounds good.

@torpid tendon In Japanese ver, one of the funniest lines by hyenas is

"I've been waiting for thiiiis!" by a female Rusher who overdoses some drug.

She says this in a polite Japanese, which makes it funnier.

[unique bramble]

She's preparing herself for an anime battle with the protagonist

[torpid tendon]

Now for my least favorite voice line: "Sending UAVs" 🥲

[burnt tusk]

Btw, there is "not wrong, but..." quote by Japanese Wyvern.

She says "Get the rocket launcher!" in the Japanese version.

But "rocket launcher" as a word debt often means "portable rocket launcher" such as RPG.

[torpid tendon]

Speaking of her, I figured out you can kill her twice in the tidal basin mission

You need someone running CC eclipse protocol for that to work.

[burnt tusk]

So at first I could not get why Manny got so upset and ordered everybody to evacuate, like "RPG is powerful, but it will just destroy some walls. Is this such a big deal?"

1 min later I realized she meant the importable launchers and I was like "DAMN SHE MEANT MISSILES!!".

[torpid tendon]

She wont dops loot twice, unfortunately 🥲

[compact ermine]

Hi, any new players with PS5, how wants to level up fast?

[unique bramble]

Wrong Channel

[burnt tusk]

Post in #lfg channels please.

[compact ermine]

Ups, sorry

[unique bramble]

Funny how a wrong translation can change the entire context of the dialogue

[burnt tusk]

So in the Japanese dialogue, it sounds like she was trying to shoot the White House with a RPG from tidalbelson.

[torpid tendon]

One thing that makes me mad: Translating character/person names

[young condor]

do you get anything for completeing floor 100 on different diffuclties

[torpid tendon]

They translated "wyvern" to "serpe".

[torpid tendon]

Not sure, did you get the hunter mask?

[young condor]

no just got 2 of them from beating it so im assuming thats the big rewards

[burnt tusk]

Do you think a RPG rocket flying from Tidal Basin can reach the White House?

[torpid tendon]

Oh sorry for the spoiler... But difficulty affects drop quality.

[unique bramble]

I can't blame them though, one thing that happens in some languages is that you might have a number of words that means similar (but not the same) object or place.
For example, in Portuguese there is the word "labirinto" which could mean either maze or labyrinth (which are NOT the same thing) but in that language there is only one word for both contexts.

[burnt tusk]

Right.

But in Japanese, she could just say "Get the missiles!".

[young condor]

ah yea i just beat it on heroic does it matter/ do i get different masks for challenging or hard

[torpid tendon]

Nope, i don't think that's the case

[unique bramble]

Is kinda funny, like you taking a small rpg and everybody is panicking about it 😱

[burnt tusk]

Word Debt Missile in Japanese=Misairu

Word Debt Rocket Launcher in Japanese=Roketto Ranchaa

So missiles could be said even more easily and shortly.

The thing is, if "rocket(roketto)" is said with itself, we imagine the big rockets(which flies to the space).

But when it is said as "rocket launcher(roketto ranchaa)", we imagine the portable rocket launchers.

FYI there is a word "Rokeran" coming from "Roketto ranchaa" which means RPG and other portable rocket launchers.

[torpid tendon]

But technically that IS a rocket launcher. Rocket is also a type of missile, or ammo, an unguided one. Usually fired by helicopters, ground attack aircraft and mobile ground launcher units. For example the famous "katyusha" is a ROCKET launcher.

[burnt tusk]

Yes, but this is how "borrowing words" sometimes makes it unreasonable.

[burnt tusk]

You can say "He's got a Rokeran!" when you find a True Sons aiming RPG.

[torpid tendon]

Something came up. I gotta go. Merry Christmas everyone!

[burnt tusk]

Actually, this is more likely an issue with the "ranchaa(launcher)".

When we mean big launchers(such as the ones Wyvern meant), we don't use the word debt "Ranchaa", but use other words.

In Japanese, "ranchaa" sounds more like a type of a gun shooting explosive ammos(such as grenade launchers, RPG) because we use this word debt almost only when we say "Grenade Launchers" etc(we also use this when we mean the launchers for software though).

So when we hear "ranchaa", we tend to imagine it as a gun, so we can't see Wyvern mean the　non-portable large launchers.

[grand blade]

Another bug for the list we don't have. It seems dyes applied to "Apparel", and then unapplied, will have been reapplied the next time you log on to the character, lol 😋

[full zinc]

Save your gear loadout after applying , regardless of it being applied in apparel menu or directly to the piece

[grand blade]

Even if it is not a gear piece? 🤔

[full zinc]

You cant dye a non gear piece.

[grand blade]

Yes you can. The new options in Apparel

[full zinc]

It got some weird interaction when they put the transmog in apparel menu.
Dye was always an option in apparel, it still only applied to actual gear

The transmog items take dye, but they themselves are going onto an actual piece.

So if you want the dye to stay, you save your gear loadout after its applied

[grand blade]

How will that work when you use the same Apparel loadout for several different gear loadouts, and the same gear loadout for several different Apparel loadouts? How will you know which gear loadout is affected and which isn't?

And nope. Doesn't work. I just tested it, and the dye is still reaplied.

[full zinc]

Ok... listen please... regardless of how its twisting in your brain, they dye , where ever you access and apply, has to be with the gear loadout. Go apply a new dye and then ook at any of your gear after. When you hit f to mod, your dye will be there. This is how it's been for a long time btw...
You used to apply the nin gear appearance mods in the same area.
The non gear transmog now appears in the apparel menu which is appropriate because of the way it works. But those specific transmog have no area to to apply a dye individually... the dye still goes on the gearpiece you are covering or whatever.

So let me ask. What happens to a chest where you change the mod, but then dont save it before you swap to a different setup. Is that mod in that loadout the next time you switch to it? Dyes work the same

[grand blade]

Just one problem in that logic. The Ninja backpack doesn't have a dye slot, so where is the dye then applied to?

[full zinc]

No clue. If using ninja, dye is the least of your worries

[grand blade]

LOL, how convinient

Either way, this is a bug or a flaw in the game mechanics. Not in my brain lmfao

[full zinc]

I'll grant that it works a little weird now, and you do need to blanket apply dyes in the apparel menu. Still saved in a loadout.
Also exotics really shouldnt be accepting transmog mods, it's a symptom of that whole sticky transmog issue that was around the last few seasons

Is it a bag transmog on ninja but no dye staying?

And if so, does the dye apply to other pieces?

[grand blade]

Oh and guess what, strike two. Even when not using the ninja pack. Your trick still doesn't work, lol

[full zinc]

Works for me

Figured out on day 1... maybe you have some deeper issue. Maybe you need a support ticket

[grand blade]

The problem is not that no dye is staying. The problem is that the dye keeps reapplying to the apparel backpack, regardless of the gear backpack. And the Apparel backpack is the only item affected.

[full zinc]

Remove the non gear apparel backpack

So they dye was saving then... I had issue on first of season with the apparel bag just being stock, regardless of how I was set on the gear. Needed to apply dye from apparel but save on gear. This sounds a bit different

[dire trench]

Was looking for people to do a raid on xbox

[full zinc]

#lfg-raid-console

[dire trench]

Yes

[grand blade]

I have tried several different methods. And no matter what I do, once a dye has been applied, it will keep reapplying unless replaced by another dye, in which case the new dye now keeps getting reapplied 🥴

[full zinc]

Even over ninja, correct

[grand blade]

Yup

[tender wave]

Pretty sure I saw someone report this over on the support server a few weeks ago

[full zinc]

See if you can access one of the other bags, without equipping, and remove the dye that's applied. Should be an option to clear mods

[grand blade]

I like the fact that a dye stays on the apparel even when you unequip the piece. But it would be kinda nice if I had the choice IF it should, lol 😋

[full zinc]

When it was the appearance that was sticking I had to go into another bag, apply and remove the appearance and bag would be normal again... but it wouldn't use dye if it was sticking to memento

[grand blade]

Apparel bag, or gear bag? 😅

[full zinc]

Gear

I dont think there is any option in apparel other than dying everything

[grand blade]

True

[full zinc]

I was actually pretty happy those non gear transmog were moved to apparel. No more all black agent , but instead of memento, it's an orange/white corgi bag 😂

[grand blade]

Tried a couple of different approaches. But clearing the mods also has no effect 🤔

And hello Server Shutdown bug. 10 minutes of Imminent shutdown, lol

[full zinc]

Yeah it's like the dye became sticky. At least when its interacting with non gear stuff.
Save your current with no dye. Then logout and back in

[grand blade]

Tried

Also tried saving the gear, log out and back in.

[full zinc]

When the transmog was sticking relogging and changing from dc > ny would reset it to its saved form

[grand blade]

Apparently the game just REALLY wants my backpack to be camo, lol

[full zinc]

Have you turned off the apparel bag

[grand blade]

Yup

[full zinc]

No apparel, no sticky dye 🤞

[grand blade]

But even when the bag is not equipped, the dye will reapply to it.

[full zinc]

Ok I got nothing. Sorry for being condescending before . I thought the issue was different

[grand blade]

LOL, in this case, even traveling from DC to NY will reapply the dye 🤣

[grand blade]

No worries 👍🏽

[ebon ermine]

It appears that group hosts DON'T have control over modifier toggling; just ran a heroic -- I always have my modifiers on by default -- and the host started whining about being under the impression that he had control and wanted every joiner to turn them off. We couldn't, given that we were in combat, and regardless afterwards, the UI was glitched/unresponsive until we broke group. The host kept threatening to kick everyone. 🤦‍♂️

[undone timber]

Yeah it's bugged

[full zinc]

shoulda just told him to go ahead, you didnt want to keep carrying him anyways

[undone timber]

It's not a huge deal though the modifiers don't really harm you after the update

[full zinc]

im not a big fan of the different ranges (colored ranges) , but thats my only real complaint. its easy enough to work around

just sucks seeing a 700k normal firetick dropping to liek 150-200k

[ebon ermine]

Yeah, I don't understand why some players become so upset when they're on. The RPG component of the game doesn't become any less ridiculous when they're off. IMO, they should force them on; it would also significantly mitigate any corruption issues / bugging out.

[ebon ermine]

agreed

[cyan bay]

Is the Santa backpack back?

[ebon ermine]

Festive Delivery? Dunno... but it should be via the backpacker

[undone timber]

If you play to the modifiers strengths you can have stupid amounts of power which is pretty cool

[undone timber]

Loot goblin is dropping it iirc

[cyan bay]

Where we supposed to have the Santa outfit this year? I received nothing

[undone timber]

just the hat should be in your mailbox with some other goodies

[full zinc]

it was a re release. if you already had it, it didnt drop another

[undone timber]

Oh damn

[full zinc]

i didnt get anything afaik

[undone timber]

I got some kinda sweater some emotes and a Santa hat

[ebon ermine]

Yeah, esp. aggressive play. Reminds me of when one guy a week ago accused me of cheating when I was running 20% faster than him in Countdown. No, I just read the instructions and contributed to enemy attrition. 😉

[full zinc]

green sweater ?

[undone timber]

Yeah

Ugly something or other

[ebon ermine]

yeah that was ported over from Div 1

[full zinc]

ok yeah that sounds about right.

[ebon ermine]

there was also a red version

[cyan bay]

Ohhh no, I never had any ugly sweater

[maiden pelican]

We need a new exotic rifle called Pandora's Box and I want to make sure that rifle has better benefits than the ones we already have and stand out from the rest especially Diamondback and it must join the ranks of Scorpio, Ouroboros, St. Elmos, and other better exotic weapons.

[cyan bay]

So, I guess I just didn’t receive it. I don’t see any mention on their blog either

[undone timber]

Did you check your inbox

[undone timber]

We have enough broken stuff as is plz

[maiden pelican]

We never had any good exotic rifle so far, the rest are not really that good while the Indicator almost made it.

[undone timber]

Diamondback is pretty decent now

Rav is a really good niche piece

Can't speak for the rest tbh

[ebon ermine]

LOL. but they need various useless items to pad the expertise level and justify the EIGHT x (number of items) exotic component farming in the next season

[maiden pelican]

But it is not widely used on raids, incursions, or countdown.

[cyan bay]

I did, nothing is there!

[undone timber]

Oof

[undone timber]

It doesn't have to be used in that content to be good

HH determined isn't used in those for the most part and it's completely busted

[undone timber]

They did pretty well with strega tbh

Legatus and virtuoso seem pretty meh though

[ebon ermine]

Still trying to get a nicely rolled one for a build

[undone timber]

I've been running it with negotiators and it's beautiful

[full zinc]

it only spreads its prooc from the target, right? not the marks that die from transfer?

i have it set on one build but havent used it really

[undone timber]

Yeah needs a direct hit

The range is like 10 or 15 meters though iirc which is pretty busted

You can clear rooms super fast

[frail gate]

why is sniping so inaccurate in this game? like there are so many times im aiming directly at an unknowing enemy, then when i fire i just see my bullet go far left even though my crosshair is on an enemies chest or head

[undone timber]

Moving makes the cross hair bloom

[frail gate]

wasnt moving.

my theory is it could be cover positions mess with it somehow. the one i noticed the worst of was trying to snipe an enemy like 3 or 4 times and all the shots were going left. so i tried sniping the explosive in front of him and the bullets were still going left. even recorded it

[sly tundra]

If you have a scope you won't see the Crosshair bloom. Take off the scope and you'll see how much bloom happens and how long it takes to go away.

[undone timber]

There's a line on either side of the cross hair in the scope that indicate bloom iirc

But yeah much easier to visualise without the scope

[frail gate]

so there's a bloom even when you're not moving or firing back-to-back?

and the bullet will still go left 6 or 7 times in a row?

[undone timber]

You can post the clip in #ask-td2-community

My tac 308 shoots pretty straight so idk

Same with my mosin

[frail gate]

i was going to ask something else but i guess ill do it there

[full zinc]

running 100% stability will have no scope sway when you ads

really easy to hit 100 if you use weapon stability muzzle and underbarrel

[zinc berry]

Merry Christmas!🎄🎁

[hollow hill]

Merry Christmas! 🎄🎁

[weak rock]

bloom not stability

[frail gate]

merry christmas

[full zinc]

stability makes the scope still when ads. or are you mentioning bloom being the issue and not stability

[weak rock]

he’s talking about bloom

[full zinc]

ok fair

[weak rock]

scope bloom doesn’t have a way to get faster iirc

i thought accuracy was supposed to do something but someone said it doesn’t and i believed them

[sly tundra]

It's just part of MMR balancing.

[full zinc]

yeah, you would know better than me i think

[weak rock]

trust my sources

i’m a mosaic of other peoples knowledge

nothing i know is original.

[pliant sentinel]

9

[tame jewel]

Anyone know a fix/workaround for the triple XP not working?

[brittle folio]

Turn off modifiers and then reset the control points. Seems to work for some.

[fickle edge]

if the bar is filled up already i think theres nothing you can do

[tame jewel]

Mine shows 0/70000000. I will try turning modifiers of and then resetting CPs. Fingers crossed

[solid schooner]

Just came back after maybe more than 1 year

It's tough xd

[tame jewel]

Turning off modifiers and resetting CP did not work for me, unfortunately

[small spear]

are you level 40 yet?

[tame jewel]

3157 lol

[small spear]

hmm not sure then, i know the event only works for lv40 characters with the shd watch already

so people who try to level their mules won't benefit from it, that's why i asked

[tropic sentinel]

Check XP event in seasons menu, probably you've got a bug where all boosted XP is already gained. In that case you're screwed. Happened last time. And before that. And many times during old manhunts and ubi don't care.

Easy way to run into this is logging in to HC character first at the start of event, but could be different ways to trigger it.

[unique bramble]

I already killed 38 goblins and none of them had a harvester with DTTOC

[umbral canopy]

WhTs going on with division. Why is 3x exp event buggy ? When did division fixed that ? I cant make faster exp because its bugged

[fiery cloud]

Merry Xmas 🎄

[frail coral]

Merry Xmas 🎄🎄

[timber pollen]

I can't find any rescue hostage activities

[proud locust]

I need help on completing one more scouting part of the mission

Of this week

I have to do 100 something

[kind veldt]

Going to guess its donate mats to control points

Cause 100 is too much for any activity

[frail coral]

go to NY, check around settlements. if not, come back to DC, check around settlements. If still doesnt appear, maybe try capturing all CP in a region and it should appear slowly.

[spare cove]

Yeah, third objective for Scout 9 is donate 100 resources to any friendly control point in Judiciary Square

Someone should seriously make a doc listing all the scouts and their objectives.

Or maybe I should

[timber pollen]

alright, thank you

[tender wave]

#lfg-hardcore-mode

[tender quartz]

is the 3x XP bonus bumped up to 5x this weekend? Not sure why I'm seeing a notice for it

[grand blade]

Not as far as I can tell. Sure your event calendar isn't just on the wrong event?

[tender quartz]

yeah I think maybe I had it on the last 5x thing

[silver shadow]

Guys, what is the best goal specialization? demolisher, elite shooter, survivalist, technical, gunner or firefighter?

[small spear]

all of them

but to start with, gunner

[tender wave]

Depends on your build, they all have uses, and over time you'll level them all up to max. Gunner is probably the most widely used though

[silver shadow]

OK the points I get as I play or do I have to do the field research?

[small spear]

field research is for unlocking

if you don't have ultimate edition you have to do that

after unlocking you gain points by playing basically

[grand blade]

The 3x XP applies everywhere, right? Even in Summit? 🤔

[tender wave]

Yes

[grand blade]

Cool, thx. Just wanted to be sure before I did my weekly Summit 😁

[tender wave]

Afaik it doesn't apply before you reach level 40 and/or claim your watch, but that's the only exception I think

[umbral needle]

Merry Christmas agents

[tender quartz]

why do some screenshots have the gear sets in light blue instead of green?

[small spear]

colorblind setting

even people who aren't colorblind set it because it displays AoEs better than default

[tender quartz]

oh ok thanks. I thought it was some kind of special gear grade

[umbral crag]

Anyone interested in grinding the 13 hunter masks ? We probably can do 2 masks a day.

[frosty wadi]

2masks a day

[tawdry ore]

I kinda hope Ubisoft make Hunter as dangerous as Div1 Hunter for Div3

And Div3 Hunter have incapacitate state like player

[frail coral]

we have incapacitate in div 2... riot foam.

[proud summit]

Merry Christmas all

[kind veldt]

Think they mean that you have to finish the hunter or they will hide behind cover and someone else can get them back up

[frail coral]

ahh that would be quite cool tbh

[fickle edge]

it's on the subreddit just search for what week

[spare cove]

I doubt a lot of people in here would search the subreddit

[elfin verge]

Is there any way to permanently turn off the active/passive modifiers? They seem to get switched on whenever I matchmake an activity

[frail coral]

i thought modifiers are now up to group leaders. So in that case, your group leader has it on.

[elfin verge]

Isn't that just for the mission modifiers though? I mean the All Out/Reversal/Persistence etc ones

[tender wave]

Those are also (theoretically) up to the group leader, although I've heard reports it doesn't always work correctly

Some of the passive modifiers are really strong though so it's generally easier to have them switched on

[full zinc]

only if you run solo.

[elfin verge]

Yeah it's the disorient effect when being hit from long range that's the issue. I try to minimise motion sickness effects as far as possible and this is one I can't easily avoid

[late glacier]

shi lit

[frail coral]

lit shi

[late glacier]

u cool wanna hop on the division 2?

[frail coral]

i wouldnt mind but i cant rn. Maybe in 23 hours if you are down for it xD

[late glacier]

23 hours is crazy but am always down

btw am ahh just sayin

[frail coral]

nahh dont worry. its a chill game anyways

[frail coral]

sounds good

[late glacier]

chillest fr

[frail coral]

if you stay away from pvp i guess xD

[late glacier]

dw i do

[frail coral]

same. level 2300, still havent touched it xD

[late glacier]

my brother i am 140

but am grinding ig

[frail coral]

all the same. only difference is I have 10% more CHC and bunch of other few stuff xD

[small spear]

little bit more health

[frail coral]

ohh yhh xD

[late glacier]

i have no idea what all of this means but am willing to learn

[frail coral]

https://prnt.sc/TlzkaMvgSm41

to get you started

although i'd say LF2M is "looking for 2 more", rather than "looking for 2 man" xD

[late glacier]

ohhh ok

ight i understand it now'

[lethal vector]

Merry christmas All

[frail coral]

Merry Christmas!

[grand blade]

WTF??? Do the missile launcher kills count as grenade kills for some of the Summit challenges??? 🙃

I was missing 3 grenade kills for the "Combat Proficiency" challenge. And it was just completed when I used my missile launcher 🤨

[timber hatch]

The real WTF is that you actually used the missile launcher

[small spear]

lmao

[lyric pebble]

Has the Mantis bug been fixed?

[grand blade]

And I can actually answer my first question myself. Missile launcher kills do count as grenade kills, not just for that challenge. But for all grenade kill objectives at the Summit. I wish I had known that before. So much easier LOL 😂

[untold steppe]

The missle launcher is pretty inconsistent on most enemies. Though if you’re mostly a tech user, it’s really nice against all robotics.

[grand blade]

Seems pretty consistent to me on Challenge difficulty. red = 1 shot = dead, purple = 1-2 shots = dead, yellow = 2-3 shots = dead 🤷🏽‍♂️

On the other hand when you use a grenade, you throw it, enemy runs out of the way...

[untold steppe]

It’s pretty different on heroic or higher most definitely. Can confidently add 1-2 rockets to each one of those beyond warhounds and skill proxies.

[rare vapor]

only use missles on warhounds

[grand blade]

Well, since I don't plan to play on heroic, the missile launcher is working just fine for me, haha 😁

It also solves the issue of me being unable to kill purple or higher with grenades anymore for some odd reason (in my grenade loadout).

I am not sure what has changed. Wasn't an issue less than a month ago.

[grand blade]

What was wrong with the Mantis? 🤔

[lyric pebble]

been a minute, but I think the ehad marker wasnt popping up

[grand blade]

Been a while since I used it as well 😅 Always planned to come back to it. But I had not heard of the bug, or if it has been fixed, for that matter 🤔

[gilded wolf]

I’m on ps4 . Division 1

Free roaming and dark zone

[dry latch]

Division 1?

this div2 chat 😂

[grand blade]

I believe div1 has its own chat. Might want to look for that instead 🙂

[subtle minnow]

Is the 3x not working for anyone else?
I have tried everything on every character - no 3x xp for me - any suggestions ?

[grand blade]

Others have had the same issue. Make sure to submit a support request. However, I am not sure how they would manage to fix it in time, or make it right for the people affected.

[quaint axle]

how do i change my platform to pc ?

[subtle minnow]

How do I submit a request

[grand blade]

Check out this post #unofficial-troubleshooting message

[torpid tendon]

We just done an all tanks run in tidal basin legendary. That was the most fun thing I've done in a while.

I was running deflector the other guys were running all blues HB, at some point another deflector and a bulwark guy

[full zinc]

top of the channel list> Channels & Roles > select pc platform. it should supercede all others even if you keep the xb role

[fallow oyster]

i got ninjabike messenger is it good i want scorpio

[torpid tendon]

Ninjabike is useless, both knee and bag

[dry latch]

Does the TDI “Kard” Custom give +1 skill teir just for being in the build or do you have to have it in hand for the skill teir

[torpid tendon]

You need to have it draw

[dry latch]

Then what’s the hype over it ?

[torpid tendon]

Well, for exemple you can swap to it and have an extra hive charge to pick up your teammate

Some people run repair drones and mending seeker, having kard equipped also boosts a little healing cuz of the skill tier, userful when you run out of plates.

[dry latch]

Well Ik it’s good for healer but why is everyone using it on skill dmg builds with red cores and a capacitor

[torpid tendon]

Nope, for healer you want something like a double barrel shotgun as secondary.

[dry latch]

You don’t want the pistol to be able to heal more ? And more effectively

[torpid tendon]

If you already have tier 6 kard wont overcharges.

[dry latch]

Very true

[torpid tendon]

There are some advanced uses for it, but I'm just a casual, I couldn't explain well.

[dry latch]

Just seen everyone freaking out cause it’s in the shop so was wondering why

[torpid tendon]

I bought 3 of them lol. Already had one.

[graceful dove]

kard custom is in the shop?!

countdown?

[dry latch]

So is the named Yaal mask or however tf you spell it

[torpid tendon]

@dry latch I got them for my other characters. I use it in my ongoing directive build. I have 0 armor regeneration, and I cant use shields since I'm using GR9-LMG

So I got a healing seeker mine

[full zinc]

it has its uses. i keep an insync, and sledge version on all agents. its handy for bumping up skilltier for whatever reason. sometimes ill run a heal drone if coolskills are on and revive becomes useless.
its nice to have that skilltier to add charge to revive while you pickup a teamate so youll be able to pick the revive back up.
if im using any type of damage skills on a non skill build, insync and extra skilltier just beefs it up a little more.
its situational and it being a useful utility is highly subjective so ymmv. you may never use/need/prefer... but it is good to get at least one to easily farm expertise for it.

[torpid tendon]

Also its a pvp exclusive item. You can only get it in DZ or named item caches.

And rarely available to buy in dz vendors or countdown.

[inner elbow]

just craft it. not that hard

[elfin hazel]

or have the game give you like 500 of them as it did to me a while back 💀

[torpid tendon]

I still remember the day I got mine. I got it from a named item cache while I was in a DZ checkpoint lol. It was before SHD 600 or so

I ain't got any others after that lol

[young mantle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/F4v1dXyoqrw?si=plsflcIjpTTd6Rz5

For gamers

[dry latch]

Yo local what backpack could I run in place of the gift ?

Been tryna farm it for over 2 hrs it doesn’t like to drop

[torpid tendon]

The gift is easy to get in countdown. Just target loot providence defense.

Edit: The gift is a dz exclusive.

[dry latch]

I’ll try that, was trying summit

Doesn’t like to drop anything

[torpid tendon]

Also works, but countdown is faster.

Ya, I feel like they nerfed both countdown and the summit loot... Twice.

[torpid tendon]

Keep an eye for named enemies in countdown, they have a high chance of dropping named items. At least for me is like that.

[dire ravine]

The Gift is a dz exclusive or can get in named item caches

[torpid tendon]

WAIT, IS IT? My mind went all blank now

[dire ravine]

Yeah it is

[torpid tendon]

I'm pretty convinced I got it in the LZ what the heck?

[dire ravine]

Really not that much difference though by just using normal Providence with vigilance literally just a few seconds

[torpid tendon]

Seconds can save lives tho.

[dire ravine]

I know countdown vendor can sell at times

[torpid tendon]

Or take lives too

[dire ravine]

True

Just saying if anyone having a hard time getting the Gift just run normal vigilance til finally getting Gift

[torpid tendon]

I think I must be getting them from named item caches. I remember deconstructing like a ton of them. I must've confused myself with that ig.