td2-build-advice

[last schooner]

You mean exo?

I remembered when you had talents on every piece of gear.

[gentle lichen]

I remember using the capacitor build that now plagues pvp everywhere before it was possible to put dtoc on it

I was a revolutionary

[junior lagoon]

what magazine mod gives lexington extra mag?

[ionic cairn]

You mean more rounds added to the magazine?

[junior lagoon]

yeah there is one with 15 extra and then another with 20 but decrease reload speed

[hazy steeple]

@junior lagoon The +20 mag is one you'll be using on every gun that can use it, the loss in reload is negligible.

the general rule for guns for crit damage builds is:
"crit chance on everything + the biggest mag possible"

[subtle bluff]

The reload speed isn't that much. If you really cared you can switch weapons and cancel the animation. Bunch more effort tho.

[lost wren]

how high can rifle headhunter actually scale to?

using this

should probably optimize and expertise my 1886 lol

[ionic cairn]

Reload speed on ARs isn’t that bad, plus it’s faster to switch to your’re second weapon if needed

[subtle bluff]

Depends with overdogs.

[lost wren]

w/o OD i imagine it won't do too well
with OD it would depend on target prioritization no?

[subtle bluff]

Plz don't use OD... For overdogs.

[shy willow]

1886 is busted enough that you don't need a min maxed setup

[subtle bluff]

Ongoing Directive....

[solar sable]

why not sir? genuine question

[subtle bluff]

With overdogs it makes it so much easier to HH stack now.

[subtle bluff]

Sir, you're making me repeat myself..... Ongoing Directive

[shy willow]

Forces you into bag or chest

Oh wait no the chest is good

[lost wren]

OD = overdogs

[solar sable]

nuh uh, ovd please

[lost wren]

at least that’s what i meant with it

[lost wren]

ah kk

[lost wren]

plus i’m asking about this build specifically, how high can it scale

[solar sable]

oh wait im dumb I didnt even bother to read that correctly lol

[lost wren]

[hazy steeple]

OD and OD are 2 more in the "reused shorthand that confuses newbies" category.

[solar sable]

i thought chow typed with instead of for lmao

[subtle bluff]

I don't wanna be here.. 😢

[shy willow]

Headhunter maths is annoying

Just go see how much damage you can do at max stacks or something

[solar sable]

sir, you made this channel yours already, deal with it /s

[lost wren]

shit i should’ve specified
difficulty scaling

i meant difficulty scaling lol

[subtle bluff]

👺

[shy willow]

Oh it can sweep heroic

You're only gonna start having issues when you group up it'll be harder to begin chains

[lost wren]

with overdogs it should be ok i think, idk

can it actually be usable in leggo? i dont believe so

[shy willow]

There are only certain encounters where HH would be worth

[hazy steeple]

@tulip siren Just so you know, if you spray the boss down with the hose that has a green flashing light next to it, they go back to taking regular damage.
Adds or not, you can take him apart really quickly.

[shy willow]

Is he like bichon where you can break his plates with a crossbow or did they account for that this time

[hazy steeple]

he gets a sci-fi looking shield when he's tankier, i dont think its a plate issue.

[solar sable]

me neither, I think it will struggle a lot in group scaling too

well... maybe it can handle some encounters

[lost wren]

it’s not a plate issue it’s just a mechanic with the water cannons

after the boss comes in, when the first wave of ads spawn in one of the water cannons will have a green light flash which tells you to use that cannon to put out the fire on the boss

it’s hard to spot at first and the game doesn’t really tell you shit, it’s also a small window and if you miss it you up and have to wipe and try again

[hazy steeple]

@lost wren You don't need to wipe and try again, the light comes back after a bit.

[lost wren]

not at all during my runs

15 minutes of shooting into the boss and the lights just don’t come back

could be a bug

[hazy steeple]

Then you aren't waiting long enough, maybe there's a bug.
but the runs I've done, it's been 100% fine if you just wait a bit.

[lost wren]

still odd that the lights are a bit difficult to spot without much communication from the game

i think people on low enough settings might just not see it at all

i’d have to do a few more runs to really see for myself but i don’t really need to as i have the sheriff and the hunter mask anyway

[junior lagoon]

is there any reason to use stack brocker over acs 12?

[lost wren]

faster stacking

stack broker has less base damage but higher rpm

[junior lagoon]

got it

[lost wren]

regular acs with brazen is still the highest dps brazen but it’s only slightly so over stack broker

[junior lagoon]

i have a heartbraker build. stack brocker makes moer sense i guess

[slate wedge]

if you only want to stack with it then yes

[solar sable]

@hexed steppe self promo?

[inland dagger]

Nah it’s build tlk I was just tryna show build

[hexed steppe]

looks like a promo, since you just titled it and didnt put any context as to why you posted it

[inland dagger]

Dude the title of this chat is build tlk

[hexed steppe]

so yeah, 12 min old. no self promo agent

[inland dagger]

Why would I have to explain tht

[subtle bluff]

Best support tank.
It can heal,
It can tank-ish
it rez everyone
it can't go down

[hexed steppe]

why do i have to explain why we dont allow self promo on a 100k plus server

post a screenshot of the build if you want feedback

you also realize im a mod and this is one of my main spots
just chalk it up to learning the rules. no harm. we welcome your build screenshot

[subtle bluff]

🤢

[inland dagger]

2.0 armor 5 skill tiers and incoming repairs

[hexed steppe]

is this a healer too?

[inland dagger]

Yeah’s

@hexed steppe

[solar sable]

pvp build too, I wont bother since I know nothing about pvp

[inland dagger]

You could switch the head for another aegis piece with repair skills and be a tank and healer

@solar sable

Thas the pve version

But you gotta use the butter sweat with it tho

[hexed steppe]

consider replacing 2 aegis with 2 palisades for another skilltier and 2 extra attributes

trading a little armor obv

[inland dagger]

I did that but this better cause u get more armor

@hexed steppe

[hexed steppe]

youre good not tagging. im engaged👍 . ill see em

whats the main use

[inland dagger]

Wym

@hexed steppe

[atomic turtle]

Certified Ping moment.

[hexed steppe]

pvp / pve / raids / incursion

[inland dagger]

Oh I get it now sorry but thts a PvP build but I can send in the PvE version too @hexed steppe

[solar sable]

deck said to not ping him bc he's already in chat reading you

[hexed steppe]

no its fine, i was just getting a feel for its use. explains why you want to top up the armor

its not that big a deal

[inland dagger]

Oh ok yeah

But I could definitely get tht PvE version for you tho

[hexed steppe]

feel free to share it. these type of builds arent normally my taste and im low iq when it comes to pvp stuff. others may like to pick at it and see if its an improvement to stuff they use

[inland dagger]

Fasho

PvE build

Tanky healer

@hexed steppe @solar sable

[subtle bluff]

for what content?

Stop tagging everyone..

[inland dagger]

Doesn’t matter you have aegis on with heals and defender drone you gonna be op

@subtle bluff

[subtle bluff]

Stop tagging..

[inland dagger]

K

[subtle bluff]

Context matters.

[inland dagger]

Well tbh it does good on anything but regular missions would be over kill on this build

So I would say legendary

Cause you can still be in the front taking agro and still be healing the team crazy with the hive and the bitter sweet

[subtle bluff]

You can't take agro with that

[slate wedge]

@subtle bluff @hexed steppe @solar sable @slate wedge He could use a Mosquito with that

[solar sable]

uhhhh not to be rude but I just dgaf about this convo at all lol

[slate wedge]

why not? this is fun @solar sable @slate wedge

[solar sable]

lmao

[hazy steeple]

@slate wedge Cool it with the tagging.

[slate wedge]

yeah all good, was just joking

[sterile isle]

What are the attributes to put on the gear pieces ?

[solar sable]

probably hazpro and repair skills

[subtle bluff]

This isn't a build that carry you. You must understand the build to play it

[sterile isle]

The build looks interesting I kinda see how it could play out but I'm not as experienced with support builds as others

[honest helm]

This certainly interests me. Care to explain the loop a bit

Been looking to use both those exotics

[vivid shard]

support build for DZ pvp that's focused on revives

the backpack gives you a huge damage reduction upon reviving someone

[atomic turtle]

How good is Soft Spot?

[solar sable]

it has a hard spot in the stash /j

[atomic turtle]

lmao so not really worth it, is what I'm hearing.

[solar sable]

I just took a look at the Spreadsheet and it's not even a weapon 🤣

It looks good on paper but there are better options tbh

[livid sorrel]

It stops working the moment you break the weak point

[strong cave]

@vivid shard We wouldn't use this in pvp. This has an entirely different usage. Not one person uses lullaby in pvp

If you're going to go for a high end one, you'll be holding Kard TDI with more blues to maintain 6 tiers

Otherwise your average FI healer with birdies/Ninjabike or so will do the same

This is more of a specific PvE build

[slate wedge]

it wouldn’t even be that good if it was an amp, since it’s AWD it sucks hardcore, why bother when you can run Flatline which gives more damage and has a higher uptime or Measured which has 100% uptime or Streamline which has 100% uptime and way more damage (of course it has a drawback but still)

[strong cave]

Drawback being you're locked out of skills for Streamlined

[slate wedge]

i think that build was meant for PvE

[strong cave]

You'll have to play cover more

[slate wedge]

true but it’s a cover shooter

[strong cave]

It was, I think they confused it because they saw the blues and Regen

[strong cave]

Don't let's these shield reliant players hear you say that lmfao

[atomic turtle]

I only ask since I've been gone for a while. I only recently came back and my last active season was First Rogue. I missed out on a bit so I'm playing catch up now, starting by asking what talents have released since and which are worth going for.

And from the sound of it, Soft Spot belongs in the garbage heap.

[strong cave]

Yeah many of the "meta" stuff hasn't changed since then. ODogs replaced coyote, Equalizer became a second acceptable choice over Ceska, and Shroud is now one of the best PvE MMRs since Nemesis hit (which is good in pvp too. Shroud doesn't work there tho)

Beacon being a newer exotic also plays nicely from the testing I've done on it with a barebasic striker setup with 2 blues. Bittersweet is pretty meh. Tinkerer was also a new one, also replaced coyote mask. So not too much has changed but some has since then

[glad pilot]

strainer or measured for lexington? since im not a fan of killer when its time for single target damage

[livid sorrel]

Measured gang

[livid sorrel]

shield players when i show them my infinite hp crusader shield(peeking behind cover)

[strong cave]

Bro for real 😂😂😂

[tiny flax]

Whats wrong with shield 🙁

[gentle lichen]

Nothing

[tiny flax]

Oh ok i use striker build xD

Can i post my build idk if its ok?

Is this alright or should i not Use Ninja?

[subtle bluff]

Ok it's time to make a compare video of this..

[tiny flax]

I also want to swap to the Lexington but havent got yet

[subtle bluff]

NBB vs other gear isn't better is the story

[gentle lichen]

You're basically trading damage for mag size

[tiny flax]

Oh i see now

3/3 alloy isnt worth it

Momento?

Or striker bag and exodus gloves?

[subtle bluff]

both are good

[tiny flax]

I want the armor it gives so Momento would be better?

And take off Savlo?

[strong cave]

If you insist on ninjabike, take a providence piece instead of 2 unit. So you can use providence chest with Oblit or equalizer, and the holster can be Salvo or Providence. Whicher you prefer. It's not worth a ninjabike setup as the striker backpack is the best DPS backpack in the game and gives you a whopping ~30% increase to your damage

And taking up to 2 blues on striker doesn't hurt you too much. I personally play with all reds but when I feel like being a bit more bullet sponge will I take 2 blues

[tiny flax]

Oh ok thanks 100 stacks with the bag does a lot more with BP and i can just Use my Equalizer chest

or Would this be fine?

[strong cave]

Looks good but personally I would go Ceska on something like that. What's the blue mod on the mask? Going to assume armor on kill

[tiny flax]

Yes armor on kill

[glad pilot]

equalizer chest, salvo holster, and 4pc striker..then> 4pc striker, eq chest, and overdogs gloves

[tiny flax]

I was having trouble with armor i was going down so quick

[strong cave]

It's useless as 14k armor on kill is not the same as 10% armor on kill. Take a Crit mod

[tiny flax]

crit chance is 50

[strong cave]

You want around 55

[glad pilot]

even 61 (60)cc is better dps

[tiny flax]

I just need to find max gear mods

i have one max crit chance its on BP

[subtle bluff]

change to any weapon with +790 RPM and Killer

And you can keep equil chest on

[tiny flax]

I have police m4 with the mag talent i forgot the name

[atomic turtle]

Armor as a core attribute is generally useless without a shield. So unless you're running that, I can't see why you'd want any blue striker pieces at all, but I assume you're running with a shield?

[tiny flax]

Crusader shield

[subtle bluff]

@strong cave I did the NBB run... That mag size is crutch... The burst isn't bad.

[tiny flax]

When im hittting max striker stacks im getting 2 mill head crits i can survive

Right now i can just beam them in head and it does so much dmg

[tiny flax]

What Talent is on that

[atomic turtle]

I have one that goes 2 Red 5 Blue and I still put out decent damage. I personally pair it with Survivalist for the extra 10% PfE + the Chill Out Mask for another +50% PfE.
Makes you pretty tanky and allows you to get up in the NPC's face. You won't miss any shots and if you'll make the most out of your stacks.

[gentle lichen]

Uhh

50% pfe chillout how

[atomic turtle]

I mean... not just the mask. I thought the context was enough that I'm using PfE mods on all gear pieces.

[tiny flax]

I tried Healing drone for a bit it worked alright lol

[atomic turtle]

But chill out has double mod slots so you can make the most out of it.

[gentle lichen]

Can't really say add ceska for another 20% cc but yeah

[tiny flax]

I dont need anymore chance i think more dmg

Armor on kill useless and Armor Regen?

[atomic turtle]

Armor Regen is only useful as a percent.

[subtle bluff]

look at number vs your armor

[atomic turtle]

Generally benefits you the more armor you already have.

[tiny flax]

Oh i see now

Ill just use more crit dmg and kill faster xD

[atomic turtle]

This is what I use.

You can swap out the core attributes for more damage depending on how comfortable you are with the shield and how aggressive you want to be.

It's a small difference, but I'd be at 62% PfE right about now if massive wasn't so Goddamn stingy with the PfE mods. 13% is a unicorn. Still stuck at 58%.

[tiny flax]

I dont really know how to use momento tbh lol

[atomic turtle]

Kill thing, pick up trophy, ezclap.

[tiny flax]

How loong does it last

[atomic turtle]

The short term buff is 10 seconds, the long term buff is 300 seconds = 5 minutes.

Picking up trophies refreshes the timer.

[tiny flax]

oh wow i thought it was set time

I used it in DZ and some Rogue came up to me when i had max stacks instant death

[atomic turtle]

For every trophy you pick up you get a flat increase in all core attributes that scales to how many of that core you have on gear.

If you have 4 Red cores, that's +20% Weapon Damage. 3 Blue cores, +30% Bonus Armor. 5 Yellow cores, +25% Skill Efficiency. You get the idea.

That's the short term buff.

The long term buff is smaller but stacks to the 30 and lasts 5 mintues which you can refresh at any time by picking up another trophy.

[tiny flax]

ahh makes sense now thats insane im gonna use that xD

What is the mask you have

[atomic turtle]

Memento is great for a variety of uses, but it's not the be all end all, and usually works best in solo play, not groups. Since you'll be competing with group members for kills. And if one person yoinks your kill, you won't get the trophy to drop.

As for the mask, it's a named one called "Chill Out." It's a seasonal named item that only drops at certain times, like right now with all the events going on. It's the best time to snag one if you don't have it.

[tiny flax]

thats why countdown everyone is kill hungry

[atomic turtle]

What makes Chill Out special is that it has two mod slots as opposed to just one.

And it also synergizes well with this current build because it's a Gila Guard brand piece, so you're also getting +5% total armor.

I have all the secondary attributes rolled to critical hit chance.

The guns are doing the rest of the work, Elmo's has a natural 15% CHC and the ACS-12 is for building stacks fast, which also has two CHC weapon mods adding 10% total.

The Sidearm is Quickstep, a named pistol. Helps for getting around faster. Swap to it for +20% movement speed then back to your gun when you need to fight.

@tiny flax The Bloody Valentine event for Bloody Houndsman is still going on for another 5 days. If you don't have any of the named items I just talked about, now is the best time to farm for them.

[livid sorrel]

Is memento good in DZ? I saw a clip of a guy winning a 1v4 with bonus armor he got from ads

[mellow tree]

Quickstep is farmable right now from the special hounds event, I would suggest farming there as it’s a very low chance in the special caches

[tiny flax]

I have 4 of them ive been farming it

[tiny flax]

Thats exactly what happened to me

But it was only 1

Chill out from houndsman

[atomic turtle]

Make sure you farm Chill Out as well, You can have two with one rolled into Blue Core and the other into Red Core. Chill out always drops with a Blue Core, so you can reroll that one to CHC just fine. Getting one that has CHC on it already for the Red Core reroll, can be a bit annoying though,

[subtle bluff]

I haven't double check this math but it's pretty good.

[proper wave]

if you have a skill tier from technician or picaro, do those count as cores?

[vivid shard]

picaro's doesnt count, it's a stat boost but technician counts

[proper wave]

I meant the picaro skill tier from the 2 pc bonus, I forgot the brand name lol

[vivid shard]

oh...

[smoky latch]

Brazos

[proper wave]

yeah that

[vivid shard]

It counts (I'm 80% sure) but I haven't tested that

[stuck grotto]

It counts, yes

[subtle bluff]

To note do not try to force picking up trophy force on the ads and on the side pick them up.

[tiny flax]

123% crit dmg

[tiny flax]

I like the ninja tbh

[lost wren]

meth

[glad pilot]

do overdogs even work in shooting range?, cuz im not sure

[lost wren]

yes

[onyx sage]

works in the first group (DPS section)

[thorny cedar]

Is it just me or does anyone else feel like the gearset they're grinding for is never targeted? xD

Yesterday I was driving for Aces, now I'm trying to find Hunters and its not set anywhere xD

[hazy steeple]

@thorny cedar You can pick your own Targeted loot in Countdown/Summit/Retaliation, just an FYI.

[misty walrus]

can anyone recommend 1886 build without the reanimated event? thanks in advance

[thorny cedar]

had no idea i haven't really played since this ret hit

[junior lagoon]

Trying to do one shot pistol build?

[left zenith]

can anyone hook me up with a st elmo engine, somehow? lol
returning player after many yrs, sick of grinding for it,
been running both countdown on challeninging and retaliation kill squads for a week

[lost wren]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?tab=t.0

all red striker should do you good

[misty walrus]

what are the talents for bacjpack and chest?

[lost wren]

headhunter for the chest
vigilance for the backpack

[misty walrus]

thanks mate

[solar sable]

use crits and Ceska chest with Glass if you wanna keep it or Oblit and setup is nice
I would drop some blues for the build to be actually hitting decent numbers, something like 3b/4r

[lost wren]

yeah especially since you have lower shd you'll be needing as much chc as you can since you don't have a lot from the watch at this moment

[pure lark]

True. Thanks for the tips

I posted that photo in a division 2 group on Facebook and people started to comment with the smh emoji and not really try to help me out

[hazy steeple]

Yeah most areas of the internet and div2 don't mix too well, you can always find someone in here who's willing to give you some pointers.

[pure lark]

I appreciate the help

[burnt bone]

No I think they want help getting the weapon haha

[solar sable]

@pure lark you can also try to get a cool smg with that or St Elmo's if you like ARs

[lost wren]

💀
i may be stupid

i did not get much sleep last night

[burnt bone]

I forgive you

[lost wren]

targeted loot ARs on public countdown on challenging difficulty, run it a good few times and you should get it eventually

[pure lark]

I have the St Elmo's would that be better than the chameleon? @solar sable

[lost wren]

yes

[left zenith]

all good man, that build link is insanneeely detailed

[solar sable]

yeah, try it and if you like it then choose

[burnt bone]

@left zenith ideally you run it with a group who is also targeting ARs and is willing to give you one if it drops for them (eg they already have it)

[burnt bone]

Have you checked out the spreadsheet 👀

[left zenith]

slowly exploring things on here still...

[burnt bone]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=drivesdk it has all the build knowledge you could ever want 🙃

[pure lark]

Is DMG to target out of cover better than CHC?

[burnt bone]

On basically everything

For lmgs you want chc because dttooc is already on them, and for stacking/utility weapons damage doesn’t matter

So fire rate or reload speed mainly

I think my lefty is fire rate 🤔

[pure lark]

I have the Stack Broker as my secondary

It also has DMG to target out of cover

[burnt bone]

Are you using it to kill things or to get stacks for strikers, heartbreaker, etc

[pure lark]

I sometimes use it to kill but mainly for Striker's

[burnt bone]

Then fire rate is best in slot but it probably won’t make much of a difference

[pure lark]

Ok. I'm trying to make this build better in all ways 😂

[smoky latch]

DTOC on Stack Broker is perfectly fine, due to its increased RoF and lowered base damage it already doesn't do much damage. Keep DTOC for that one

[worthy owl]

I need advice Im stuck on how to improve my DPS build, Ive came back to the game after being off it for awhile. Any advice is welcome.

[smoky latch]

You want advice for a rifle build?

[worthy owl]

Advice to improve the DPS of the build overall.

[smoky latch]

Well you should choose a certain direction

AR/LMG/rifle etc. This looks like you main the 1886, so a rifle build

[worthy owl]

Indeed rifles.

[smoky latch]

This is my solo farming build. Determined in group play isn't very welcomed, FYI

HSD/WH as attributes, HSD is main attribute

[worthy owl]

Whats your average damage per shot on the rifle?

[smoky latch]

23mil or so with HH active

I have the event active btw

[worthy owl]

what is HH? As I said Ive just came back to the game.

[smoky latch]

Headhunter chest talent

[worthy owl]

Ah

[subtle bluff]

To note you're gonna have issues with this build with your SHD being low once the GE is gone.

[smoky latch]

True that

[pure lark]

Is it possible if I share a link to a fan made website for builds? (It's not affiliated with Ubisoft) It's new. I understand if it's not allowed.

[subtle bluff]

The recommendation is going MMR's first to learn how HH works.

[smoky latch]

Post it

[pure lark]

https://shdbuilds.base44.app/Home

[smoky latch]

There are at least two other build stations I know of that you can freely post

[subtle bluff]

Both are in the pinned messages

[smoky latch]

Not bad for a fresh project

[subtle bluff]

Have to type it all in. D=

[pure lark]

Thanks

[subtle bluff]

Is this yours?

[pure lark]

Yeah I created it

[subtle bluff]

Have you seen buildstation.app

[pure lark]

No

[subtle bluff]

Take a look. Mx builder was the original. Both are in the pinned messages.

[pure lark]

I just looked. It's a nice set up

Well hopefully both builders get visitors with builds

[worthy owl]

So to improve my DPS Build I should what exactly?

[subtle bluff]

One shot builds don't do DPS Btw.

What Inf posted above should be what you're moving towards if you want to do rifles.

Learning how HH stacks is very important

I normally suggest players to learn to run something like this at first.

You can go to 4pcs Hotshot at first.

[tawdry cloud]

Wondering if anyone happen to have a refractor build they could show me ?

[hexed steppe]

Pinned spreadsheet has a guide for it. Look for afk/refactor

Its also linked in my personal build sheet in my profile

Something like this for a basic setup

[subtle bluff]

I'll post a proactive build

[worthy owl]

Alright, Ill start my grind. thanks for the knowledge again, its a great insight as I use to have a class DPS with the EB on Console so now Im trying to make myself as damage purpose as possible by doing a One Shot

[hoary sail]

hey guys, there is a list for unicorn piece to keep?

u saw one but where i can't remember

[hexed steppe]

I know this is a forward, but the last line line in preview can be edited out. Overdogs doesnt work with the kinetic skills. Tested on a few different builds and overdogs only affected fire/explosives/oxi, but not assault turret/striker drone/sniper turret. Hope it helps

[hoary sail]

i think it's was from someone here

[subtle bluff]

Yeah it's in the farm guide.

[subtle bluff]

Ya having testing it not much better.
My cooked idea..... BF..... And refactor..

[hexed steppe]

I was hoping it would... woulda been sick on refactor

[hoary sail]

oh ok thx mate

[hexed steppe]

I also haven't tested overdogs on the firefly variants, jammer pulse, emp sticky

[solid blade]

Hi guys, can you please help me on what should I do now? I'm kinda lost.
I've watched some videos and trying to follow them, but when it comes to get exotic weapons and named stuff my luck is not on my side.
I tried Countdown on Heroic with other people but I'm so weak I can't even kill anything and it feels like I'm only a burden.
Currently I'm trying to get the St. Elmo AR, but I'm not too lucky...

[hexed steppe]

Replace the hotshot pieces with ceska and contractors gloves

4pc striker and 2 highend. You lose attribute space on the hotshot and they dont synergize.
You also want crit chance rolls till 50-60% chc then dump the rest into crit damage

If you have overdogs they are worth using instead of contractors gloves

Obliterate chest talent, or glass if you like it spicy

[subtle bluff]

No good reason to do heroic CD

[solid blade]

should I start already with modding stuff and tinkering? Currently I'm just trying to unlock everything in the library at max rank but I'm still missing a few pieces
Also is there a general rule of thumb what stats should I use on each armor / weapon slots?

also probably my CHC is not too optimal because of this 😆

[hexed steppe]

Build dependent.
Dps you want crit chance and crit damage.

Skill builds you want skill damage and haste.

Headshot builds you want headshot damage and weapon handling

[hexed steppe]

Make that crit chance 50+, utilize mods, weapon mods, attributes to achieve this.
Remember correct rolls are better than max rolls.
If you dont have the mods yet, troll the vendors... a 4%chc mod is better than 0%mod

With striker you are fine tinkering since you want the red main core anyways

[solid blade]

alrighty, thank you!
Currently I'm just trying to do open world on Hard/Challengeing with targeted loot and hoping for some nice loot. But maybe I'll wait a bit with St. Elmo then and try to focus on replacing gloves and chest piece

[hexed steppe]

that would be ideal

[subtle bluff]

You can kind of follow this.

This is very outdated but..

[hexed steppe]

run challenging countdown. its easy for them to carry, youll have better target loot, and youll be able to open exo caches every so often

couple of my variants

[solid blade]

btw I have Coyote mask, should I use it then?
And replace chest piece with Striker then to keep the set bonus?

[copper yarrow]

Yes it will be better than the one you posted above

[hexed steppe]

replace the glove with striker in that case, use coyote, and farm out a ceska obliterate chest

[solid blade]

nice, thanks 😄
I always wanted to try out Coyote's but I didn't know what's a good build for it

[subtle bluff]

Anything obliterate for now

[silent storm]

Pefect Glass Cannon is easier to farm.

[subtle bluff]

New players using PGC is rare for them to try it.

[silent storm]

To be fired in the crucible of PGC hardens the weakest of players making them unstoppable.

[subtle bluff]

How you've changed your outlook on things since you've gotten here.

[silent storm]

I've always used all reds

[hexed steppe]

Lootcifer eventually bends everyone to his will

🔥 😈 🔥

[waxen sandal]

Greetings every1 any1 got end game builds they can share, just hit 40, and i am back after 6 years of absence. Looking for meta pvp/ pve builds

[solar sable]

check pins for the Spreadsheet

[waxen sandal]

spreadsheet 2 i imagein?

[mint musk]

for solo play whats the ideal skill? drone and turret or drone and pulse? since i have marksman specialization

[subtle bluff]

Depends on the build and playstyle.

[mint musk]

normally i tend to stay marksman, with assault or submachine as second.. and as for build not sure i've returned for 2-3 years absence. for now i just picks whatever suits me, although i have 4x striker, acosta go back exotic and random holster

[subtle bluff]

The spec small part of the build.

This is very wip. But you wanna work toward something like this.

This is just throwing everything together.

[mint musk]

so striker is more for gunner spec ? what green items are more in tune for marksman spec?

[subtle bluff]

You can go sharpshooter.

The spec only matter very little. In most solo gameplay the gunner AoK is the reason it's chosen.

[subtle bluff]

Green? The build in general?

Gearset, HE (High end)

[mint musk]

i see ..

[subtle bluff]

So what are you looking for?

[mint musk]

just something that give me increased survivability as sharpshooter

[subtle bluff]

Let's ask this another way.

Why are you using sharpshooter?

Sharpshooter doesn't really give you anything in a normal DPS build.

In most builds.

[mint musk]

why? well, guess i enjoy the concept of it.. i don't really have a definitiv playstyle.. so i tend to pick something and stick with it 😅

[subtle bluff]

Just gonna say this one more time to ensure that you have an understanding sharpershoot spec doesn't benefit in anything towards your build or gameplay. Unless you're using a more specific build for it.

[mint musk]

so I guess I should go for gunner cuz its ideal for solo runs?

[subtle bluff]

Give you something that benefits you for more survival vs others and doesn't change your overall build.

[mint musk]

i see, thank you for your time 🙂

[subtle bluff]

Was I able to answer the other question with the Pic of skills?

[mint musk]

yeah, sure does give me a idea how to proceed forward.. somewhat.. now i gotta clean the inventory 😅

[subtle bluff]

Okay just wanted to check.
If you're curious or want to research the Pinned Messages we have a bunch of good info there. Sheet2 is Gearsheet with a ton of info.

[fair ether]

Does anyone have a Sheriff headhunter build? I'm guessing it's not going to be great but I want to test it out

[solar sable]

AFAIK Sheriff is half dmg of a m870 w/Brazen so... I guess it won't do great in higher difficulties let alone group scaling

[subtle bluff]

Sheriff isn't gonna be a main weapon for any build atm.

[buoyant perch]

HeadHunter's Fury, 4x Hunters Fury, Chainkiller, any Vigilance backpack
You can see this in action here in 4-man master w/ no event
https://youtu.be/iNVLwaxL4bg?si=5t_ZhN9NTBVwNxJu&t=156

[subtle bluff]

@tawdry cloud here

[north sinew]

hello i have really been enjoying the backfire. was wondering if there are viable builds out side of season modifiers? or is it only good with strikers + season modifiers. looking to stay close to max bleed resist if possible

[solar sable]

Hunter's Fury + Memento is a great combo, you don't need ANY hazpro or bleed res mods, you'll only hurt your crit percentages which means your dmg

[north sinew]

the bleed wont kill with that setup? looking to take a build into master or legendary stuff lol

[solar sable]

I wouldn't take Backfire to Legendary, and no, you won't die from bleeding. It's not possible if you get max stacks or reload three times on empty

Some builds that you can take to Legendary are:
Any Strikers setup except Memento
NegoDogs
HHF

[north sinew]

okay ill try HF+Momento lol is there any good smg for legendary? i like the 21% crit chance from smgs

[burnt bone]

The named vector is good, dark winter

[subtle bluff]

When it comes to leggo, a build is only 1/3 of the whole thing, Good knowledge and gameplay becomes the rest of it.

[buoyant perch]

The thing with smg is fairly close range. In legendary, it's really dangerous for CQC so AR is preferred for most encounters.
For high level play, peole use the SMG-9 with unwavering for heli camping:
https://youtu.be/htvSxbg3sng?si=Q_YKDOirIfaea8XQ&t=480

[subtle bluff]

AR/LMG

[north sinew]

dang okay was hoping to find a build that i can use SMGs because i liked the backfire and apartment and dark winter. guess i gotta get some diversity lol

[buoyant perch]

You can still have fun with those in heroic. It's only legendary that requires really specific things.

[silent storm]

Mr. Chow what stats are you getting what was your build again?

Is this Ceska GC?

[subtle bluff]

It's in the guide on the bottom

[silent storm]

So you have 61.5 CHC?

What is your CHD total has to be under 100

[serene flare]

well then, what's the best talent to put on a god roll Lexington?

[smoky latch]

Killer solo, Measured in group - for DPS

[serene flare]

gocha

[hexed steppe]

what specific config are you asking for numbers? ceska chest in same config as yours?

[subtle bluff]

Pretty sure since you get enough CHD to make it worth it.

Just do the math.

[silent storm]

Numbers just seemed low but I guess you don't need the higher CHD as it doesn't seem to take very long to max stacks.

[smoky latch]

Quick in groups, slow solo

[silent storm]

Nice got the OvD BP from Retal!!

[tiny flax]

should i reroll it?

For damage out of cover?

[hazy steeple]

Have you changed the talent before?

[smoky latch]

What is this?

[tiny flax]

Its my Elmo

[smoky latch]

Yeah reroll to DTOC

[tiny flax]

And my shotgun?

[hazy steeple]

although next time I'd avoid optimising first.
wait I forget, can you even reroll after an optimise of said stat?

[tiny flax]

Also is this any good?

[hexed steppe]

its better than 3pc striker, but lacking against true 4pc striker

[hazy steeple]

you take this one 'deck

[tiny flax]

Its Ninja Backpack

[hexed steppe]

nicest way to put it

[tiny flax]

i got 4 pc set

[hexed steppe]

i get it. you lose a lot of damage using nbb

[hazy steeple]

That bag is something of a new player trap, it looks good but takes up a backpack talent slot, which are some of the biggest damage increases that we have within div2.

[tiny flax]

oh ok i see ty

[hexed steppe]

*true 4pc set is operative term.

[tiny flax]

4 piece striker with coyote?

[hexed steppe]

coyote ok, overdogs stronger if have

[tiny flax]

Oh i see lol

I got overdogs

Keep Equalizer?

[smoky latch]

Anyone dabbled with the Sheriff and HH yet? 😄

If so, is it any practical?

[tiny flax]

this better?

[buoyant perch]

You can see people trying it out here:
https://youtu.be/iNVLwaxL4bg?si=5t_ZhN9NTBVwNxJu&t=156

[tiny flax]

ill change to Banshee pulse

[smoky latch]

Shield and reviver hive is a nice combo

[smoky latch]

I'll check, thx

[hexed steppe]

much, as you get used to the build and content youll be able to transition the blue cores to red to jack up the damage further. itll feel a lot stronger once you use it as is

[tiny flax]

Im slowly getting better taking cover a lot more

[smoky latch]

Interesting, I would not have tried HF with it due to its range limitation

[hexed steppe]

and once you get bored stacking striker and want to see some real wizard type shit, youll replace the striker pieces with negotiators dilemma in the same config 😎
down the road ofc

[tiny flax]

Do i want all crit chance and dmg?

[hexed steppe]

yes, push to 50-60% crit chance, rest into crit damage

[tiny flax]

ok thanks im at 57% and 131% dmg

[hexed steppe]

if already at 60% chc, make sure you dont overcap

oh perfect

[tiny flax]

I see alot of high lvls with gold and 1 exotic

[buoyant perch]

That's a good point. I guess it's so new that speedrunners haven't tried to min-max specifically for the sheriff yet. HHF has always been there so grabbing it seems natural at this point.

[tiny flax]

What dooes that do?

[smoky latch]

The shotgun packs a good punch and is hella accurate in CQC anyway. So for those purposes it sure works

I will run that setup myself and see how I can use it best

[fiery gust]

Nobody running Sheriff for anything speedrun.

[buoyant perch]

It really shines in medium range though. For CQC, M870 brazen gives more damage.

[smoky latch]

Yeah that's the go-to for my usual HH shotgun build

[buoyant perch]

The video is literally a speedrun.

Current world record even

[fiery gust]

I think that's with Reanimated if I'm not mistaken. Haven't seen the video, but just guessing.

[buoyant perch]

Nope, no event allowed per community%

[fiery gust]

Oh, that's not a solo. Nvm.

[lost wren]

i got more lexingtons and now i have one for each of the major talents i see people use

killer, measured, strained, flatline, and streamline

[silent storm]

What no Close and Personal?

[lost wren]

?

[silent storm]

Talent

[lost wren]

eh, you're not usually trying to be up in the faces of enemies, especially not at higher difficulties

[onyx sage]

sheriff is like 4mil per pellet full stacked with HHF, m870 brazen is 7mil per pellet. it's quite a big difference, and both are at 0 exp

i wished it was better...

[hexed steppe]

you mark npc's with crits, any crits you land transfer to any other npc thats marked. 112% of the crit is transfered. it basically melts areas with multitarget dps but takes an extra braincell compared to striker. its not a common set for that reason, but its very powerful for most content

[lost wren]

i need to use nego and bluescreen in legendary more

or hell even in master i think it should do fine

[onyx sage]

you don't have to stick to bluescreen, imo you should play the build as if you're fully committing to dps

nego frenzy is currently WR strat for solo zoo legendary community%

[lost wren]

gr9 frenzy?

[onyx sage]

ye

[lost wren]

i have one i just need to optimize the chc

[onyx sage]

i can't paste the video here but on my yt u can find the 2 zoo runs where i used it

you need gr9 with rof and salvo so frenzy time syncs up

[smoky latch]

Do you recommend 5% increased RoF for magazine mod for GR9 Frenzy?

[onyx sage]

i wouldn't, the 20% reload mag is too good

[smoky latch]

A'ight

[lost wren]

what other mods do you run? other than the reload speed ad the built in chc mod

[onyx sage]

chc everywhere, mag is reload

[lost wren]

👍

55 chc or 60?

[onyx sage]

as close to 60 as u can

i like the elmo as the primary, the gr9 frenzy is for big spawns

[lost wren]

not the full thing but

60 chc and 161 chd for gr9 frenzy

[onyx sage]

noice

[lost wren]

though i think it'd have to down to 149 chd, put on elmo and it was only 52 chc so i dopped chd for chc

[onyx sage]

yeah that's fine

[lost wren]

could just drop a chc mod on the gr9 itself and run chd, 60 chc and 159 chd ow

full build and what i assume you were running in that manning zoo wr

[onyx sage]

yes. basically what i run

[lost wren]

epico, will try it when i wake up

[misty walrus]

anyone get actions delayed today?

[subtle bluff]

Don't forget you do gain some CHD on nego

[lost wren]

this is with the chd from nego

[copper yarrow]

Why elmo vs bluescreen?

[onyx sage]

damage

cuz you're going to use gr9 frenzy as the main damage dealer, if you also use bluescreen you'll be out of lmg ammo

[subtle bluff]

Idk about that one just takes longer.

A lot less dmg with Bluescreen on that build since there’s no crit mods on Bluescreen.

With GR9 knowledge of some positions and spawn is kind of needed.
Bluescreen is a bit safer is my opinion.

[copper yarrow]

Okay makes sense

[copper yarrow]

I absolutely love BS haha

[subtle bluff]

I've carry plenty of leggo runs on Bluescreen Nego. It help me get better since it gave me a lot of buffer

[copper yarrow]

Buffer for?

[subtle bluff]

having more dmg to do more dmg or CC everything.

[buoyant kraken]

Can anyone help me if this is good or something better would help?

Head - Legmo (armor and chc/chd)
Chest - Equalizer (Perfect obliterate) weapon damage and chc/chd
Foundry hand/holster/kneepads. All armor with chc
Ninjabike backpack with chd modded.

Sets with ninjabike gives me :

Legmo - 20% explosive resistant
20% skill health

Chest - 5% rate of fire
20% AR damage

And foundry 4th bonus

So I have technician spec. With the technician hive and shield

St elmo rifle and streamline smg (one that gives chd every 0.5 sec of shooting)

Gives me a total of

4 blue cores
3 red cores
1 skill core + 1 from the spec so 2

I feel like my shield dies down too fast on legendary than it should and its repair takes long. The damage is fine to be honest. Im expertise 10 aswell if that makes a difference. I didn't expertise the set yet. Only the skills / weapons.

How is this build? Or is there an alternative? I want to be able to run a solo legendary while being tanky.

[subtle bluff]

woah

This isn't a good build at all.

Btw Streamline is** no Skills are Deployed or on Cooldown.**

You've cookie cutter your build to do not much TBH.

[buoyant kraken]

This is something someone send me over which I tried to replicate but it doesn't do as well as I thought. Sure I can go through a whole phase without dying but thats with ALOT of cover and waiting on shield to come back.

[subtle bluff]

A tankie build will normally get overran or take Forever to do.

NBB isn't the way that's is the one for sure for solo leggo.

Solo leggo isn't just about a build. 1/3 of it is build, 1/3 gameplay and 1/3 knowledge. They balance out each other but if one lacks you will fall short.

[buoyant kraken]

So this doesn't work as well in groups? As thats where I mostly tried it. Not really on solo

[subtle bluff]

Solo leggo is one of the hardest thigns to do.

Being complete honest I'd laugh if I saw your build in leggo run.

[buoyant kraken]

I did 1 or 2 solo legendary with this build. I never do them normally. I always just run heroic with full directives

[subtle bluff]

Without modifiers or GE?

[buoyant kraken]

With modifiers and ge. But mostly headhunter build when I do that as I don't worry about ammo

[subtle bluff]

Yea that's why you were able to solo it.

Without you can see why you're having issues.

It much easier to just burn everything down.

[buoyant kraken]

I tried that build on master tidal basin for the exotics from manhunt. Had someone else in my group who had the exact setup. It went well till the boss. I had to switch to full red striker and him to healer after dying light 8 times

The foundry build that is.

[subtle bluff]

Trust it wasn't the build that help you guys out there.

Trust this does better what you're trying to do much better. But this build cannot solo leggo or masters.

[subtle bluff]

which build?

On Pact Master if you're not using the Modifiers you run into a DPS check issues normally for a clean run.

[buoyant kraken]

So basically I matchmade for the manhunt on it. Got 1 extra person. He ran the foundry build I asked about. I ran headhunter for the first half of it. Switched to the same build. Got to final boss. Kept wiping and then switched to full red striker before it went better.

[buoyant kraken]

Do you have the build for this? I have momento atleast

[subtle bluff]

https://youtu.be/xKjHJbAe2oc?si=CkKjWmM6SAGv3ls5

Here's is one of the only solo Pact Master runs w/o Modifiers or GE's.

[subtle bluff]

Oh it's HB

Lex w/Killer and this had Lefty at time. This is a fairly old video.

[woeful zodiac]

Can anyone suggest a good ouroboros build?

[dreamy shuttle]

anyone have a really strong sheriff build

[thorny cedar]

Been toying with different builds all focused around DPS and I think I found the most fun one I've ever made. Crux is rolling hunter's fury with Over the Top, giving me +25% WDmg flat, +15% WDmg against enemies within 15m, and +5% WDmg stacks. Got Sweet Dreams just to roll around bopping purps and reds and yellows with +100% melee dmg.

[subtle bluff]

Striker and HF work.

[subtle bluff]

Sheriff isn't strong enough to be a focus weapon build for it.

[subtle bluff]

HF Chest and BP aren't DMG talents. There both rather bad.

[woeful zodiac]

What about a High End build?

Plus I need more mag size

[subtle bluff]

It can but no where as good.

[woeful zodiac]

Fine

[subtle bluff]

Bigger Mag vs Mag Dmg.

Give it a shot.

[dreamy shuttle]

looking for a strong solo legendary build

[subtle bluff]

Striker Memento is best start.

To note, this game/solo leggo isn't just about a build. 1/3 of it is build, 1/3 gameplay and 1/3 knowledge. They balance out each other but if one lacks you will fall short.

[thorny cedar]

thats for armor on kill and regen, I run solo so I like to have it for survivability. I'm not exactly the best player, and I also am in a pretty remote region so sometimes I need to take a knee and regen armor or have a buffer if lag hits. If I ran groups consistently I'd defo run full red

[subtle bluff]

Wait what? HF Chest and BP do not give you more AoK or Regen.

[dreamy shuttle]

theses are my 3 main builds

[subtle bluff]

All build

• Try using any weapon with +790 RPM with Killer (when in group use measured)
• NBB will always nerf a build max potential
  Build #1
• Drop Coyote for Overdogs
  Build #2
• Use a weapon that can equipment Laser Point

[dreamy shuttle]

i cant get overdogs my rng is bad i been farming countdown and exotic caches for a month

[subtle bluff]

Do Hyena Retal. There a chance or eventually you'll get up the blueprint.

[dreamy shuttle]

use measured and whats nbb

[subtle bluff]

what about meausred?
Ninja Bike Backpack.

[dreamy shuttle]

ni9nja bike for what build

[subtle bluff]

Reread

[dreamy shuttle]

so the striker coyote put overdogs and change the st elmos for a 790rpm weapon with killer

[subtle bluff]

I edited better?

[dreamy shuttle]

ok any weapon suggestions

[subtle bluff]

any weapon with +790 RPM

try them out.

[dreamy shuttle]

theres no way i can do retaliation i just die

[subtle bluff]

Do in group?
You have some learning to do it seem like.

[solar sable]

The best way to learn is to fail, if you fear to fail then what can you learn?

[bleak kernel]

What build did you guys use for the current climax mission (Master Diff.)?

[dreamy shuttle]

this be ok

[onyx sage]

and the only one to use full red

[north breach]

What’s the best possible Lexington build you can use

[smoky latch]

It's not a specialized weapon. It fits any DPS build

[north breach]

Bet thank you so much, bro

[woeful zodiac]

Is this build good?

[copper yarrow]

What would be the Bis third roll for these following exotics? Wanted to know as these are the ones I use frequently

Elmo
Bluescreen
Pesti
Strega
Bighorn
Iron Lung

[lost wren]

for pretty much everything, damage to targets out of cover
for lmgs since their second core attribute already is dttooc, go for crit chance

[slate wedge]

never say never

[slate wedge]

yeah caretaker js great

[lost wren]

caretaker is something i still don't have, rip

i have 5 lexingtons but no caretaker

[broken pewter]

what you guys think about this build?? Not mine, someone i saw on pve

[smoky latch]

Picaro's holster not ideal there

[broken pewter]

is this suposed to look like a one shot sniper build but instead with a shotgun?

if that's the case wouldnt it be better to use the gift back and remove turmoil anyways

[buoyant perch]

1886 is a rifle

[buoyant perch]

Turmoil is bis during reanimated event

[broken pewter]

the thinkerer mask will make the 1886 damage go insane because of the streamline talent on the AR right?

[buoyant perch]

Basically, yeah

[broken pewter]

doesnt turmoil make you deal less damage per hit?

because part of that damage is applied to others

[buoyant perch]

Half but reanimated doubles it again

So one shot two kills

[smoky latch]

They're both rifles. Otherwise the Tinkerer talent wouldn't work

[broken pewter]

we can get this mask on countdown/caches or is it dark zone excluisve?

[lost wren]

this is another build i intend to use the gr9 with but my dttooc roll on it is only 6%

[buoyant perch]

Streamlined is good but you can already do oneshot just fine without tinkerer. Plus not being able to use your skills will be severely limiting. See gameplay without tinkerer:
https://youtu.be/yD6yzC406Ts?t=61

[broken pewter]

maybe using rifleman instead on the secondary talent would be cool

[buoyant perch]

It's cool but when you are oneshoting everything, does it matter tho?

[smoky latch]

No, it's only available from the Potomac Event Center legacy manhunt and has a chance to drop currently from the stretch goals

[buoyant perch]

@broken pewter the standard rifle build is this, using tinkerer will lose you 25% rifle damage from 2x breaking point

[broken pewter]

was seeing a video with those 2 BP peace and fox prayer

this shit might deal the same damage as my sniper build

[broken pewter]

imma try that one

[buoyant perch]

During reanimated, just swap turmoil in and you are golden

[broken pewter]

sharpshooter specialization gives more HS damage right? i dont remember the extra bonus compared to the gunner

[buoyant perch]

A small amount, yeah. The main benefit is the 🐐 Tac-50

[broken pewter]

if the specialization doesnt impact the build that much wouldnt it be better to use gunner or something to get 10% armor on kill?

[solar sable]

tac-50 lets you stack HH with ease in one headshot kill

[inland dagger]

Self Healing Umbra

[radiant dirge]

I’m here looking for dumb wisdom , I play both pve and PvP and atm in conflict it is a shit show ,it feels like 60% games are normal and the other 40% are lag switches or auto nemis , now you can just play better but sometimes even when you play your best it will never be enough, I’m interested in the validity of a shpranel trap build and if it is at all viable ?

This would be solely to counter these situations as I refuse to quit out as that just wastes so much time and effort , I would rather just the get every advantage and try it out against them

[misty marsh]

Quick question, can you swap talents on the Lexington?

[radiant dirge]

Yes

[misty marsh]

Appreciate it

[subtle bluff]

It's a thing unfortunately.
Traps aren't good in general for the numbers they do.

[radiant dirge]

Any general alternative other then glass ?

[subtle bluff]

Uh? Glass?

[solar sable]

sand

[radiant dirge]

Glass cannon , just for the chance you can catch off guard or the lag don’t work proper

[peak yarrow]

What Is the best chest for dps? any chest with obliterate talent or striker chest can works too?

[subtle bluff]

Equalizer

Striker chest does peak higher but rarely you get that high in stacks and stay there.

[subtle bluff]

Depends on the build. It seems like you're grasping at straws. Also is your content conflict or DZ?

[radiant dirge]

Mainly conflict

[subtle bluff]

#td2-pvp-discussions

[tidal swan]

have you considered mortar?

[radiant dirge]

Yes but don’t work well against lag switches for the fact they just appear

[hazy steeple]

hey I found local's alt

[fair dragon]

hey good find!

[tidal swan]

yea fair

[radiant dirge]

I’m looking for something to do it all but there just doesn’t seem to be anything for it

[vital dagger]

is this build good? i need tips because im trying to do the bloody hounds man bounty and im struggling

[plain girder]

Replace all those random blues and yellows by crit chance or crit damage u being low shd prob more into crit chance imo

[solar sable]

off to a good start, try to get crits on your gear

[vital dagger]

do i need to get new pieces of armor or is there a way to like reroll on the armor i have currently

[plain girder]

U can recalibrate 1 part of each geae, u can optimise everything else

Meaning u can change the red core attribute to armor core or change a crit chance to crit damage or a skill haste or whatever to crits and so on the rest u can just increase the percentage of it

[solar sable]

Lvl40 Starters Guide

[plain girder]

https://youtu.be/vcdMAQ9g_o8?si=xuUl9n6iaFgolz0I

Video is old as hell but same concept still applies

[lapis ember]

Where can I go to farm 1886?

[solar sable]

anywhere with rifle TL

[lapis ember]

TL?

sorry return player here

[solar sable]

take a look at this too

[copper yarrow]

@onyx sage for a strikers frenzy setup, you recommend the GR9 right? And can you pls tell it's 3rd attribute and gun mods too

[lapis ember]

Wowe thanks bud

[onyx sage]

gr9 chc attribute, chc mods and reload mag

[copper yarrow]

Sweeet ty

[young crown]

what's the go-to HHF build?

[solar sable]

there are... three setups

each one depends on what is to kill

Instead of Determined we use Streamline to stack HH

this one

[slim hatch]

I’m going for a tank build what gear set would be best for that. And I don’t have the ninja backpack been grinding summit to get it.

[solar sable]

tanks dont work on this game, sorry

they only have very few applications in raids and that's it

[slim hatch]

I don’t have time for raids I mostly play solo. And when I play with others it’s summit. I work at night so it will work for me. Just wanted to know what gear set would be best for a tankish build maybe with some crit added to it.

[atomic turtle]

It's not so much that tanks don't work, as much as their role is pretty minimal and their value is meh compared to other builds. There's a few case instances where a Tank is helpful regardless of raids or not, but they're just overshadowed by other builds.

Generally, good Tank design does two things:

1. They generate threat and draw aggression away from the squishier members of the team.
2. They provide supporting buffs and other bonuses to other members of the team.

Tanks in Division 2 can do this fine, the problem is that those benefits are far outweighed by what other builds can provide.

I mean... who even needs a Tank when you have one dude with an Eclipse Protocol Riot Foam build, and three other DPS players?

It's the same reason Healer builds, while appreciated, are hardly ever needed except in specific cases. You either play healer because one of those rare cases, or because you just like to play healer. That's it. Same goes for Tanks.

[atomic turtle]

You're probably looking for a Bruiser type build. I can give you two that should work fine for most content. What are you looking to do? Heroic? Legendary? Something else? Or just for general purposes?

[slim hatch]

I do mostly heroic and been doing free roaming and summit

[atomic turtle]

Great. Ok, here's two that I can recommend right off the bat that should suit your needs, give me one moment to take some screenshots.

[lost wren]

only 60% chd? damn that's low

[subtle bluff]

You don't need Chill Out for solo PvE.

Use buildstation.app for SS it makes this easier to read.

[subtle bluff]

What SHD are you?

[atomic turtle]

@slim hatch
Ok, so the first is a Hunter's Fury build.
This build relies heavily on creating your own openings to attack or exploiting already existing openings. It's a very CQB-centric build with high damage up close and strong survivability. You can tweak the number of core attributes to suit your needs.

The second is more survivability but it puts you at a strong advantage against elites and named enemies. I've used it for Legendary and Master missions with great success and still puts out decent damage. The mask can be swapped out for something else you don't need to use Chill Out for Heroic or most PvE content in general. Overall it has strong survivability without much trade off in damage.

[subtle bluff]

..... This is a lot more than he was asking for.

[atomic turtle]

You didn't even let me finish when I was writing. 😭

He asked for some advice, I was just obliging the request.

[subtle bluff]

One step at a time.

[slim hatch]

Thank you for the info. And I’m just getting back into the game again. I’m almost at 100. SHD

Started at 45 last week lmao

[atomic turtle]

Very much so, but that Striker build is meant more for survivability than raw damage. He asked for something on the tankier side, I gave him something he could tweak a bit more to his liking.

[lost wren]

here's what i'd run if i were using striker memento

talent on acs/stack broker should be brazen, forgot to change it

[subtle bluff]

Wait... Why striker chest..

[lost wren]

only for leggo i see it used
for heroic go ceska chest with ob

let me update it i forgot to add some talents lol

[atomic turtle]

@slim hatch Pyramiiid's Striker build is likely better for your needs, I'll be honest. The one I gave you was geared for harder content like Legendary/Master.

[lost wren]

both these builds work for slow solo leggo clears for first timers

[atomic turtle]

Be sure to prioritize CHC/CHD as you level the watch. You get the most value out of those.

[lost wren]

you just use striker chest if you can maintain the stacks and really need the damage on leggo
for everything else just use ceska with obliterate

[subtle bluff]

Guys he's very low SHD. Let's slow down here.

[subtle bluff]

Do you have w/e it's called to play online?

[atomic turtle]

Yeah, there's really no huge difference when it comes to Striker, to be fair. Just about anything works regardless of how many tweaks.

[subtle bluff]

Also use the Share Tab to share shows it better.

[slim hatch]

Still this info helps out a lot thank you

[lost wren]

woah, thank you
this is goated 🔥

[subtle bluff]

I normally will just show the build and not other info

or I'll move the window to show it stats on the bottom

It's something we were working on to show better but Dev is taking a break

[subtle bluff]

Gonna point you to a Starting Guide.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?tab=t.0

[atomic turtle]

Is that what those other SS you guys have are? I don't have this app.

[subtle bluff]

it's website just type that in

or look thru the Pinned Messages

[atomic turtle]

Oh ew, I have to manually put everything in. Annoying.

[subtle bluff]

@slim hatch start with the guide that'll walk you thru the basic and the things you need to get a good starting build and stuff. Once you get your library and stuff other builds will be much easier to build.

[smoky latch]

You can save it tho 😉

[subtle bluff]

you can make an account and save builds

heh heh.. I haven't even save all of the loadouts I have.

[smoky latch]

Damn, good amount of work

[subtle bluff]

Some are outdated. Idk. It's good place to have a library of builds once he get back online he wants to make be able to be public and we're working on a guide section for them.

[smoky latch]

That library there is really nice. Can always update when need be. Can check once a month or so and see if anything needs to get an update.
I wanted to do something similar but couldn't motivate myself enough yet

[subtle bluff]

This is also over like a year of building

at least 20 are for guides.

[slim hatch]

Rn that’s what I’ve been doing is working on my library. I have almost everything to do with damage maxed in my library for the guns I use and everything else right now I have a one shot build. But wanted to try so thing a lil more tankish cause I’m tired of getting 2 shoted

[subtle bluff]

Fair. If you follow the guide or go to the Pinned Messages it'll lead you to the Gearsheet / Sheet 2 in the Pinned and in there there a build hub with a ton of guides

It sounds like you want a HB Heartbreaker build.

[atomic turtle]

@subtle bluff Did I do it right?

[subtle bluff]

Don't need to follow this but when I was to display the Crit stats I'll pull the window in to get this:

[slim hatch]

I’ve been looking online for a lot of like tankish builds but I don’t have the ninja backpack back I’ve been grinding summit to try to get it. Rn on floor 100 and about to pump it down a lvl cause every time I join someone we get wiped out in a matter of seconds lmao. I did just pull the Saint Elmo’s engine and been trying to work with that gun cuss I’ve seen it’s good.

I also would need to work on any other specializations because all I have are the old ones not the new ones like the gunner firewall and the other one

[subtle bluff]

NBB is Trap

YouTube is a bad place for builds. only like 10% of it them all are good.

Here a reference of a even the old meta build that was used all the time.

I always explain that Div2 is play and isn't the traditional type of lootemshootem game.
A build won't carry you, you need a good mix balance of a build, gameplay and knowledge. But this is for like the top end game stuff.

[slim hatch]

The only guy I go to on YT is kamikazevondoom plus he shows him using it but half the stuff he has in his builds I don’t have like the backpack

[subtle bluff]

🤢 He's the worst

[hazy steeple]

oh yeah i wouldn't mention them on this server.

[subtle bluff]

like actually the worst.

Best clickbaiter......

[solar sable]

he's in this server

[hazy steeple]

we have 135k people, thats not a shock

[subtle bluff]

wurd

He's probably here to copy builds.

[solar sable]

Im curious if he knows about his haters

[subtle bluff]

anyhoooo

[solar sable]

YOUR builds 🤣

[smoky latch]

Nah bro, the builds shown here are GOOD

[solar sable]

chow didnt specify which type 👀

[hazy steeple]

Just a reminder that Rule 12 covers people you dont like too

[subtle bluff]

Waiting for him to copy my BH HSD HF build.

[smoky latch]

Yes ma'am, we aren't going overboard

[subtle bluff]

OH I need to show my cooooooked build.

[solar sable]

Im waiting...

[subtle bluff]

COOOOKED

[solar sable]

chow

what exactly am I looking at

[subtle bluff]

Decent DPS with a side a free healing.

[solar sable]

have you tested it?

[subtle bluff]

It out does Capa here by a good margin.

It's on the list... I need to redo..... NBB striker run....

🤢

[solar sable]

ew... xd

I can test that refactor build of yours if you want

[atomic turtle]

What the f is that.

💀

[kind axle]

Anyone have suggestions on a fun and capable shotgun run and gun build?

[smoky latch]

HHF

[atomic turtle]

Beat me to it.

[solar sable]

fun? this
want another type of fun, then go HHF as INF said

[smoky latch]

I haven't tried HE variants, just Headhunter's Fury

[kind axle]

Thank you!

[smoky latch]

I don't have a screenshot or a build overview on hand right now, sadly. Maybe @subtle bluff has one for HHF on hand?

[solar sable]

this one?

[subtle bluff]

HHF I feel like it's the guide that needs to done too

[smoky latch]

Thank you both

[solar sable]

the spreadsheet one needs some updated touches I think

[subtle bluff]

Yeah all the HH stuff needs to be touched

[solar sable]

woah

[subtle bluff]

OK>...

Sir...

[solar sable]

we like HH like that? 😳

[subtle bluff]

SIR

Going back to my game:
How many Dudes?

[fiery gust]

Cue the obligatory couch photo with HH on it and you guys standing above it. 🤣

[smoky latch]

lol

[woeful zodiac]

Anyone?

[lost wren]

brooooooo this is 🔥 🔥 🔥

[subtle bluff]

Without context. I’ll just say not really.

[magic pilot]

Not really

[trim wedge]

What’s a good all red build for raids that doesn’t rely on striker stacks

[smoky latch]

If you want HE. If you don't like (P)GC use the Equalizer chest and a Ceska backpack. Depending on your main weapon you can ditch the 3rd pc UA for 1pc GS

[magic pilot]

its beautiful

[smoky latch]

So much red and the most beaufitful chest talent in the entire game 😄

[worn copper]

New Agent here i was curious to best build to fight the bloodhounds robot dogs i am farming for library and expertise .... thanks

[smoky latch]

Hi new agent, do you have a Striker's build?

That does work wonderful for most PvE activities

[worn copper]

il build it thanks

[buoyant perch]

Tbf, it's more of the hound's design than just the build. Can you do it in a team?

[smoky latch]

Here, this should help you out, IDK how knowledgable you are:
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/14enYng-1WNGx07vmvEHEHtlvtWfjH5ZNSAlUElXzFBs/edit

[woeful zodiac]

Just try it once

I kept the memento for survivability

[subtle bluff]

It wouldn't clear my DPS check

[woeful zodiac]

Dude just try it once

If its bad, I won't share a build in the chat ever again

[subtle bluff]

Go run it into that same run. It won't clear fast enough.

[smoky latch]

What build?

[woeful zodiac]

I like to take my time while clearing control points and hostile waves

[subtle bluff]

If you can explain how this is done. I'll try it.

[smoky latch]

My second favorite thing here after the video clip of the DUA run with three tanks

[woeful zodiac]

Fine, give me a few hours and I will send the clip in the chat

[subtle bluff]

This is a one and done challenge I was given.

[woeful zodiac]

Ryt...

The challenge is to avoid taking cover?

Bet

[subtle bluff]

I didn't say you need to do it.

[solar sable]

I love that u destroyed its pouch and it was still shooting 😆

[subtle bluff]

But if you want to try go for it..

[subtle bluff]

TRUST I was mad. I was WTF..

[woeful zodiac]

Give me some control points @subtle bluff

[subtle bluff]

Do this one and metro. Since it's the ones I did for the challenge.

[subtle bluff]

btw 😶

[solar sable]

mr sir good sir chow help me get a zwia bag for a build

[smoky latch]

Oof. Ty for showing tho

[subtle bluff]

Busy watching fights

[solar sable]

I cant use my emojis here >:(

[smoky latch]

No fun allowed 😐

[lost wren]

you should do solo leggo with this
surely it will be fun

[solar sable]

that was just a test lol

[woeful zodiac]

What's the build for this one?

[subtle bluff]

Issues is Launcher CDs...

[lost wren]

nah bro it'll be fun
i am john SHD and i confirm

[subtle bluff]

It's not a build. It's understanding how mechanics and stacking stats.

[worn copper]

not knowledable at all just wanna farm the courtyar5d bounties for the drops the hunter kills me asap LOL

[smoky latch]

Yeah that's why I posted that build suggestion from iKia because he showcases and explains it well with them

Also, dying to a hunter is no shame - it's a hunter. Especially as a new player

[magic pilot]

I can help in a little bit

[solar sable]

ping me when youre on

[magic pilot]

getting on rn

[worn copper]

thanks i wanna farm the named items and library and expertise the many items they drop!

[worn copper]

can overdogs drop or they need to be crafted from retaliation patter drop?

[smoky latch]

They can drop from targeted loot but it appears that they're a very rare drop. Hence I would recommend farming Hyena retaliations to get the blueprint

[worn copper]

suggestion for replacement? contractor glove?

[smoky latch]

Just for the mini hounds?

[worn copper]

yes LOL for the moment

[smoky latch]

GS maybe for more crits, WH or IA would work too. Double crits for each ofc

[worn copper]

wasd gonna build striker drone turret skill build but ill try this

[worn copper]

noob here ill google the acronyms LOL

[subtle bluff]

You need WD DPS for dogs or it'll take forever to kill

[subtle bluff]

so are in the Pinned Messages of #ask-td2-community

[smoky latch]

GS - Grupo Sombra - 1pc brand bonus is 13% CHD
WH - Walker & Harris - 1pc brand bonus is 5% weapon damage
IA - Immenence Armaments - 1pc brand bonus is 5% weapon damage

[worn copper]

thanks now i know why i always put div 2 down ... trying my best to learn and stick with it this time !!

[smoky latch]

No problem, like MrChow recommended to you with the link above it's useful to keep that spread sheet open when you play

At least for a while until you have more of a clue

[worn copper]

its on my other monitor im building as we chat LOL

[smoky latch]

Cheers 😄

[flint arch]

Saw someone one-shot Lucy in DH, what build is that?

[fiery gust]

A HSD based HE build. Common setup is Punch Drunk mask, Sacrifice chest, Dodge City holster, WH or IA backpack, Contractor's gloves, and Fox's Prayer kneedpads.

You use Busy Little Bee to get stacks with it in the previous areas, then you hot swap to Regulus or Harvest as Buddy & Lucy comes out the doors, Achilles Pulse them, and shoot in one of the boxes.

Boom, dead.

[worn copper]

while i put together this striker setup ... what is the most lazy best damage end game build ??? 🤣

[uneven cove]

I mean it probably is striker with st Elmo's cuz you just mag dump everyone and that's your whole build

[thin mesa]

hey all

is there a channel where you can post bugs or something?

[smoky latch]

Only unofficially here.
If you want to report sth officially, do it here: https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/help/contact
Ubisoft discord, Div2 section is an alternative

[hexed steppe]

#unofficial-troubleshooting has links pinned

#unofficial-troubleshooting message

[junior lagoon]

St elmo and gr9 with frenzy

[subtle bluff]

Ubi has a offical discord that's where the bug are tracked.

[atomic turtle]

And it works marvelously every time.

[hearty orbit]

are the any rifle builds i could slame together for solo play?

havent really found anything thats current on youtube

[subtle bluff]

DPS?

OD Trinkerer is the best we for Rifle DPS.

YouTube isn't a great place for good builds.

[solar sable]

stay away from div yt

[hearty orbit]

lmao back to back

im coming back from a fairly long break, and piecing some builds together, ive always liked rifles, just never had a decent build that kept up

[hearty orbit]

sadist and killer?

[subtle bluff]

The Build Hub in the Gearsheet has most of the meta stuff

[hearty orbit]

ty, in the pinned messages right?

i really wish i knew about this sooner

so much time wasted on clickbait youtube videos

[hearty orbit]

messing around the build tool, is the UIC15 Mod2 just the best HE rifle?

the numbers across the board just dont seem to compare to it

[subtle bluff]

There is no best overall he Rifle. What one is looks it lacks else where.

UIC is like top 2 Mag and Sustain I believe but it's lowest on the Burst.

And burst overall on rifles is already bad.

[simple haven]

The biggest reasons to use a rifle over another weapon type, IMO, is a combination of two factors:

• option to deliver pinpoint damage, albeit slowly, even through the tiniest of cover gaps, though you will need to slow your ROF greatly, you can still apply from the jankiest of angles and peeks that an AR would simply whiff 99/100 bullets thrown

• certain rifles boast comedically high damage-per-magazine for people who simply don't like reloading, at all; yes, while most common gameplay has gaps where you sneak reloads, or even just reload while repositioning or dodging bursts of enemy fire, there's something hilarious about gunning down an entire spawn door and still having half your magazine for the other spawn door

[subtle bluff]

Rifles aren't meta but fun. There viable to a degree.

[atomic turtle]

Me when I stand next to the spawn door and every shot is an instakill headshot because Determined 1886 + headhunter + Tinkerer M1A w/Boomerang + reanimated = tons a fun.

[glad pilot]

i dont get how overdogs are better, when without them im doing higher dmg (in shooting range)

for example build without them:

vs with them, 30 amp SHOULD be higher?

unless its just not truthful to test in shooting range

[atomic turtle]

It's not. Never has been.

Shooting range is always never advised for testing DPS.

[glad pilot]

but when i asked if ODs are applied in shooting range, i got a yes

it dont look to me like they r being applied at all.

[slate wedge]

It’s weird, sometimes they get applied and sometimes they don’t.

[solid blade]

What are those weapons? Still had no luck to get St. Elmo... I did like 15 Countdowns so far and bought multiple Exotic caches so I'll give it up for now and try to get some other weapon that actually can be farmed D:

[hexed steppe]

bluescreen and lexington

gr9 with frenzy is a really good option also

iron lung also does well on striker

[woeful zodiac]

What's the best rifle I can use for DPS?

[atomic turtle]

The usual go-to's are any of the M1A variants.

They hit like trucks and you can spam the hell out of the SOCOM and CQB ones.
If you're fine with a lower RPM, the Classic gives you a bigger buck per bullet.

[woeful zodiac]

What about the highest RPM rifle?

Urban MDR is like 47 rounds with 418 RPM (with Salvo)

[atomic turtle]

Urban MDR is also a lot less damage, I think. But truthfully, I don't even remember anymore.

[woeful zodiac]

233.85k

[atomic turtle]

Oh, here, this might help: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[sharp gust]

I was trying to also setup a basic HE DPS build and not sure if the Standard DPS build in the sheet is up to date or not or if I'm just not understanding the math, would this build be as fair as that one, considering I'm mostly AR

[hexed steppe]

i would drop the -providence, move 1 ua to salvo, +ceska, +grupo

if not using sacrifice, i see providence as a loss. vigilance on another brand will have the same damage

[sharp gust]

Maybe a Fenris backpack then if running AR?

[hexed steppe]

i think the crit is worth more

[sharp gust]

Yeah this is what I can't get my head around often is how these different types actually affect damage

[hexed steppe]

nvm second weapon

main deal against adding specific weapon damage is that you are already stacked with a lot of weapon damage. the increase from fenris is additive to those red cores actually pretty miniscule compared to the crit. you could go qol and use a 3rd ua instead of grupo and get a 50% mag size boost

[atomic turtle]

lmao saw that coming.

I'm guessing that was you who got rid of it, Local?

[hexed steppe]

gd i hate them jerks interrupting me

yeah

[sharp gust]

Thinking of using a 3rd UA yeah

[hexed steppe]

i have and its nice

[atomic turtle]

Is this the only channel with image perms? That bot didn't post anywhere else, right?

[hexed steppe]

doesnt matter, the ban wipes all their content

[atomic turtle]

epic

[hexed steppe]

they usually post in a few channels

[woeful zodiac]

@subtle bluff

[atomic turtle]

Holy sound desync.

I mean... nice gameplay, but your timing's a bit off mate.

[smoky sigil]

Anyone have any all red dps builds? I have already maxed out my striker build and am getting bored with it

[atomic turtle]

Grupo Mask, The Sacrifice, The Gift, Providence Holster, Overdogs, Fox's Kneepads.

[solid blade]

I have an Iron Lung, is that better than my Pestilence?

[smoky sigil]

Thank you!

[atomic turtle]

@smoky sigil

[onyx depot]

Looking for a solid pvp build for dark zone. Old returning player and I haven't stepped into dark zone yet.

[lost wren]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X87BwJv-I_58WAQh_bSDXRKNLBHTOi9Wtt4Bs6Pv7bY/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.sztdj4iywieh

[buoyant perch]

What SHD level are you?

[wet sky]

Guys how he gets all these talents?

[buoyant perch]

Tinkerer glitch which was fixed

[wet sky]

He's not even using it!

[buoyant perch]

You can glitch then change build

[wet sky]

Thanks for explaining, I was about to replicate his build 😅

[patent fossil]

Feel like I should be squelching this for 'naming and shaming', but it's from a self-published YouTube build video?

[smoky latch]

Apparently not 😅

[magic pilot]

Uhhh yes. It's definitely fixed

[subtle bluff]

Lol on normal? That's the easiest thing to do. I was on heroic.

[woeful zodiac]

That's usually the difficulty I play on

[subtle bluff]

Anything is viable on normal.

And I mean anything.

Hell. Challenge pretty much the same.

[misty walrus]

Farming red cores habsburg is like hunting unicorns

[subtle bluff]

Why do it. There is not much improvement over the normal build.

[misty walrus]

is there any alternative that can one tap a chunga?

[subtle bluff]

You can't one tap chunga period.

Chunga and helmet guys have a armor plate you need to break.

[buoyant perch]

You can if you shoot through the backpack

[subtle bluff]

Ok... Without doing very unique things...

[buoyant perch]

And without determined

[misty walrus]

i was stripping

hyena rusher