Everything is easy once you get used to it
#h1-for-new-players
unreal eagle
fresh current
My "cruising" difficulty is 10 stacks
unreal eagle
I think the important thing to get used to is ||EM and forced overtime ||
fresh current
2 of tougher bosses, one for tougher mini bosses, one stack of tougher yellow enemies
Then two stacks of time
And that is a very manageable lineup
unreal eagle
Although i hate ||EM4 because he summons a mini boss||
fresh current
I would encourage walking up to ||forced overtime|| slowly
unreal eagle
Get the ||20%|| first
fresh current
Yes it's something you should get used to as training weights, but i find that punishment will kill you much faster than anything else we've listed
unreal eagle
Yep lol
First time I've tried the max level of that thing
I diminished my DD on tartarus
Lmao
unreal eagle
Mostly because of the timing and I'm playing in ||hell mode which have jury summons||
fresh current
I need to get on that level
I will say that ||forced overtime|| compliments higher stacks of timer
rich cave
Also ||tight deadline|| is a very easy ||1 heat|| if you can clear faster than 36 minutes
fresh current
It fundamentally increases the speed of the game clock, basically
Not literally, but that's the practical effect
rich cave
Imo it shouldn’t be ||3 heat|| for what it is but I’ll take it lol
fresh current
||tight deadline|| with two stacks is also basically free until you're at a difficulty where time actually starts to matter
Yeah it's great @rich cave
rich cave
||tight deadline|| with two stacks is also basically free until you're at a diff...
I play with ||tight deadline 3|| for every run now
fresh current
One stack of ||FO|| or two 👀
leaden whale
shouldn't all that discussion take place in another channel ? i know you try to put spoiler on lot of the thing; but the whole discussion is "after final boss" and should be considered spoiler, imo.
scenic relic
i may have played hades for the past 50 hours and have beaten the game 2 times
but
how do you use the bow?
stray terrace
charge, aim, fire
alpine ridge
range makes it safe
stray terrace
well for one, ||mainly for bounties||
leaden whale
range make it safe, and close range special can do great damage
timber nexus
stray terrace
||cant pass up those tasty tasty titan bloods ||
scenic relic
like my main problem
alpine ridge
getting used to doing the dash attack all the time also helps speed it up
it makes the charge up time much faster
leaden whale
some bows like chiron are pretty easy to use, safe, and can have great damage
alpine ridge
they would with the right boons
stray terrace
wdym
scenic relic
so then i get chased by ||rats||
gentle anvil
oh god its theseus and minotaur time
alpine ridge
ahhhhh
leaden whale
put something like zeus and special and it should kill small hordes
stray terrace
divine dash or any other boon that allows damage on dash for those rats
alpine ridge
any dash boon really except arty
stray terrace
wdym laser build
leaden whale
if the problem is small rats, dash is good
scenic relic
oh sorry i mean cast build
alpine ridge
If you're talking about Hera, i recommend the Cast build since that's the pointof the aspect
stray terrace
a cast build for bow in general isnt bad
fresh current
Hera is a one blood wonder for bow
Otherwise the bow is kind of bad without upgrades
And the best ones are expensive
Tbh that's why you don't like the bow right now
You haven't seen what it's capable of
Sadly it will take you a second to be able to afford that capability
Bow is an expensive weapon like that
alpine ridge
ASM is right there
fresh current
It's broken, but it's broken aspects really want to be 100% to achieve their potential
alpine ridge
it's one of the weapons that require investment
scenic relic
oh well guess i will farm the other weapons
fresh current
Shield is the weapon i never shut up about
Zag shield aspect is the best 5 blood you can spend in this game
scenic relic
shield with a cast build is amazing
alpine ridge
Zag shield aspect is the best 5 blood you can spend in this game
it's the last 5 blood i'm spending hahaha
fresh current
Honestly shield isn't for cast except for one aspect 🙈
But you do you boo, play and learn everything 😘
scenic relic
and one god
alpine ridge
Everything else is maxed out except for zag shield
scenic relic
||its a laser build dont worry||
scenic relic
i actually almost beat, you know who, the first time that I tried it
fresh current
Great job 👍🏻👍🏻
dapper veldt
Hey guys
gentle anvil
oh thats great i have to fight a tiny vermin on a time limit
a tiny vermin that gives me literlaly nothing probably
dapper veldt
So I was playing Hades for the first time, wasn't able to kill the first female boss for few rounds. In the last round, I got her to very low HP, but I died. Suddenly, the game continued, with the character saying something like "oh well, close enough". Did the game told me I'm bad and let me win anyway? Oof.
scenic relic
wait that happens?
alpine ridge
wait what?
gentle anvil
god i hate the tiny vermin
im on a time limit and the littel thing is too tanky for something that size
scenic relic
everybody hates them
alpine ridge
welp, now i gotta replicate that situation
gentle anvil
and now he ate up one of my revives
because i guess rats that spawn on you also damage you??
leaden whale
So I was playing Hades for the first time, wasn't able to kill the first female ...
you came back to life with half of your hp ? if so, it's should be related to one of the mirror upgrade you bough
dapper veldt
you came back to life with half of your hp ? if so, it's should be related to on...
I'm 100% sure I had the death screen. Followed by the game continuing to the shop stage right after the boss instead of the red death pool and all over again.
leaden whale
pretty strange
scenic relic
did she said "close enough"?
dapper veldt
No my character said something like that
gentle anvil
question does the time limit continue during the final boss fight
scenic relic
did you got death defiance?
leaden whale
maybe you were killed and you killed her at the same time
dapper veldt
did you got death defiance?
I already did during the fight
leaden whale
or simply, the boss kill screen look like the death screen
scenic relic
did you had skelly's charm
dapper veldt
Hmmm maybe
dapper veldt
did you had skelly's charm
Not sure what that is
gentle anvil
god i give up on this run
leaden whale
you just beat her and confuse the kill screen with you death screen
gentle anvil
it was going really well until rat
scenic relic
most likely
dapper veldt
you just beat her and confuse the kill screen with you death screen
Does it look the same?
scenic relic
yeah it does
leaden whale
yes
scenic relic
but its her character flopping down in the styx
dapper veldt
Haha okay possible then. I'll blame the weed if that's the case
fresh current
When you git gut you will come to love the rat
He can be killed fastest
That's the secret shhhhh
gentle anvil
why did he not appear the 3 times i went to the final boss but when i'm on a time limit and want to save my revives he appears
fresh current
Because RNGesus loves you and wants you to build character
fresh current
Think of it this way, when you git gud at stomping him it will be very cathartic
Did you give yourself one stack or two?
gentle anvil
one
i started the boss with 7 minutes, he had one quarter of his health at 4 minutes and he didnt even lead to the sack i need for cerberus
theres no way in hell im going to beat the final boss in 2 or less minutes so i just gave up which i prob should've read the disclaimer more closely because i lost the darkness and keys i got from that run
floral nacelle
Giving up keeps the seed and sends you back to the house
gentle anvil
it sent me back to the main menu
stray terrace
Giving up keeps the seed and sends you back to the house
what even is a seed?
floral nacelle
A seed is basically how the game determines the RNG for rooms and stuff
In routed runs (in which they already know the seed) they do stuff like cast before entering a room because that alters the RNG ever so slightly
stray terrace
whoah
fresh current
And even then astra
Shame on you child
You made it that far, go down in glory
Two minutes is much more time than you think it is to get through that fight, win or lose
gentle anvil
yeah i regret it
silk swift
Also about that time
||you start taking 5 damage per second, your hp and defiances can still buy you some time ||
fresh current
If I have two minutes walking into that fight I’m kosher, 2m is actually my baseline for that fight
gentle anvil
wait what how did i beat more people than thanatos
gentle anvil
the last time thanatos appeared he cursed literally everyone right before i was about to attack them and he just killed them before me
fresh current
For a god of death you sure are trash at your job buddy 🤡
Lol
I always imagine zag smack talking him
Yeah he can get lucky sometimes
Frustratingly lucky
But generally than is EZ clap
Put it this way, you know you’re getting where you need to be in the game
If than shows up and you say to yourself “now can I do 3x his kills? Or will I only make 2.5?”
Now he can be frustrating if you get the wrong combo of him and a super tanky room of enemies where your build isn’t fully online yet
But 70% of the time he should be free health
tranquil escarp
Today WILL be the day.
severe gazelle
how to give the super nectar bottle
i gave my holy mighty nyx normal nectar until she got a lock
and i have the ambossia or what it is but i can't give it to her
north quail
you need to give her enough nectar first
leaden whale
each character has some specific condition before he will take your ambrosia
usually, you just need to talk to everybody a lot
craggy sundial
What does the ambrosia even do? Just nectar but it can unlock locked hearts?
I got my first ambrosia yesterday
severe gazelle
you need to give her enough nectar first
i gave my glorious nyx enough nectar that she got a lock
north quail
What does the ambrosia even do? Just nectar but it can unlock locked hearts?
yes
you can trade with it too
north quail
i gave my glorious nyx enough nectar that she got a lock
then play more
learn more of the story
severe gazelle
i completed the game once tho
leaden whale
you still have probably lot of character story to discover. You need to talk to people a lot before unlocking their last heart
fresh current
Lol
@severe gazelle I think I started running out of story content somewhere around 150 clears
For reference
Looooong way to go
Death is not the end
Even victory is not the end
uneven ledge
the rerolls are really espensive
and by that i mean really expensive
which is fair because being able to reroll things lets you make up your builds more consistently
north quail
expensive?
uneven ledge
10k+ ish darkness i believe
fresh current
Lots of darkness to max
uneven ledge
i haven't even maxed it out so i take keys in tarterus for extra rerolls
north quail
i really need to max out the last one
but i need to farm darkness which is boring for me
severe gazelle
im still in tartarus and got zues on normal attack and jolted thing and divine dash
i think this run is a win
polar smelt
im still in tartarus and got zues on normal attack and jolted thing and divine d...
you LOVE to see it
winged oriole
If you get 'attack can deflect', will the chaos shield both block and deflect when holding attack?
fresh current
Yeah passive bullrush is block only
weary vector
YAAAAS
And with a death defy to spare. I devote myself to the cult of Dionysus and Aegis
humble ore
Nice! Congrats!
If you want to take a screenshot at the end screen with all your booms and stats, you can post it in #h1-victory-boasting for others to see
fresh current
Yessss
north quail
won with some of the worst boon luck i ever had
weary vector
Can you get your stats in the admin office? I clicked away too fast
humble ore
Not sure, I would try to see if you can but I can’t say for certain
weary vector
Hopefully because I'd hate to miss my first successful run haha
humble ore
Very nice
north quail
triple bomb or targeting system for eris?
fresh current
Ooooo
Triple for ez activation
But
Targeting system makes for thicccccc damage on Eris
I say targeting
north quail
thanks
fresh current
Hard to lose between those two
north quail
i wanted to choose targeting system too
fresh current
For any other rail triple might be a more compelling choice
But Eris looooves anything with a % label on it
Especially raw %, not just attack or special
severe gazelle
second completed
fresh current
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
severe gazelle
2 runs completed in 1 day cooool
guys
is it worth to get the chiron upgrade on the bow
or the normal is just better
fresh current
Honestly
The bow sort of isn’t worth touching until you can afford the aspect in full
Which is 15 or 16 blood, depending on aspect
Chiron is 15
With respect, I would steer you toward upgrading a different weapon first
Bow isn’t very accessible until you can afford some of the upgrades in their full form
Then it goes from 0-broken RFQ
uneven ledge
chiron isn't really worth using until you've like maxed it i guess
fresh current
If you really love bow
Put 1 blood into hera aspect
It is a one blood wonder
But the only one of the bows thats even remotely like that
Save it up until you can afford bow aspects in full otherwise
weary vector
Oh my that's a lot of heat levels
fresh current
Or a few heat levels on every weapon 😉
Daily preaching: All new players should enroll in the Monkhood of the Purple Weapon. Not only is it better for farming, it forces you to git gud with every tool at your disposal
You will thank yourself later
weary vector
I have been doing that so far, it's a legit way of doing it
fluid yoke
whats the monkhood of the purple weapon
weary vector
Decided to go with the killing gloves of boxing for the moment though, want to see what it means by 'bosses have new techniques'
fresh current
Committing yourself to playing with purple highlighted weapons only
For the 20%
And the discipline
light grove
Oh you mean the Dark Thirst
fresh current
Yes
faint jewel
Daily preaching: All new players should enroll in the Monkhood of the Purple Wea...
Wait, someone plays otherwise?
I only make an excpetion if I play to record my questionable run. 🤣
weary vector
I occasionally switch to other weapons since my favourites are the sword, the cozy mittens and the shield
But yeah, I like the extra Mumbux from Dark Thirst
limber sun
Am kind of surprised it was said to wait til the bow was upgraded all the way. I just used the base upgrade of ||Hera|| and had fun.
faint jewel
They're saying that's the one exception to the rule.
weary vector
How do I unlock the other aspects on weapons? Like || Hera's ||
Ones that are covered up initially I mean
worldly vigil
you have to have all of the weapon's unlocked first
haughty sparrow
how I can change game graphics quality
worldly vigil
I don't think you can sadly
weary vector
So I need to unlock each of the already available aspects? Gotcha
worldly vigil
no
woven stump
I tend to go for flurry jabs every time with the spear. Is there something I'm missing about spin attack? The vulnerability window seems too rough
weary vector
Yes
Hera might've been a poor example since I haven't actually inspected the bow in ages
worldly vigil
ah okay. This is relatively spoilery depending on how far you are, but this should tell you
earnest lotus
can the aspect of eris on the rail stack?
fresh current
@woven stump the hidden aspect and the ||daddy|| aspect of the spear are built around spinning
Though hidden is really built around special + spinning
But point is it’s an aspect-specific thing
I dont know why you’d ever spin with Achilles, for instance
woven stump
The weapon has a basic charge and spin that I already avoid
So yeah the aspects seem unappealing accordingly
fresh current
Yeah, the spin isn’t really there for the first two aspects
woven stump
In general I prefer rapid attacks that stack effects and stunlock, plus it's so good with crit
fresh current
Dont write them off because you dont like charging spin, I’ll say that
Lots of weapons in this game dont make sense until they do
weary vector
ah okay. This is relatively spoilery depending on how far you are, but this shou...
So basically I'm not even close hahahaha
That's fine
worldly vigil
ehh not really
woven stump
I'll try them out but that window of vulnerability in cqc is rough
fresh current
Feel free to have preferences, but try to understand enough about each one that you can grasp what their strengths are
woven stump
Bow charge at least has range
worldly vigil
well ig I don't know how far you are, but it isn't too bad
fresh current
Again, spin isn’t really for the first two spear aspects
Can’t emphasize that enough
woven stump
Good to know
faint jewel
Lots of weapons in this game dont make sense until they do
too true
fresh current
I’m with you sov, fast attacking weapons are my jam
weary vector
well ig I don't know how far you are, but it isn't too bad
I've beaten the game for the first time so I still need to do a bit of work to get more titan's blood I reckon
fresh current
But there truly are no trash weapons or aspects in this game, just ones that require different play styles
weary vector
Woah okay. || All 3 furies ||
faint jewel
But there truly are no trash weapons or aspects in this game, just ones that req...
Even GY?
Seems quite trashy...
worldly vigil
I've beaten the game for the first time so I still need to do a bit of work to g...
yeah you do. I recommend completing the prophecy for ||clearing with all weapons|| as it rewards quite a bit of blood. I found a really easy way to do it quickly is with a blade rift build with hunting blades duo
fresh current
yuuuuup
weary vector
I'll keep that in mind
fresh current
GY is clunky but chuuuuuuuunky
worldly vigil
needs a bit of luck, but very OP
also its a lot easier with the mirror perk with increased chance of duo
fresh current
If a weapons seems bad, you havent discovered what's great about it yet
errant bramble
Except zag spear. That one is actual garbage hah
fresh current
i wasnt going to mention the exception
fresh current
but yeah if one aspect is kind of just cheeks its zag spear
errant bramble
It may work. But the fact is that 25% special dmg from an aspect is worse than a common special boon from Chaos or slightly better than 1 Pom on any special boon.
So you’re trading your ENTIRE aspect power for 1 Pom blossom
The special range is only relevant if you actually are at max range and utilizing that effect
Which is rare
You could do Achilles and get 150% dmg and the exact same build.
Instead
fresh current
i wonder if theyll ever give a signifigant rework to some of the aspects
petition to add repeating shot to zag bow:
-Angry Sword Man
i would love bow so much more if one of the aspects just had the repeater hammer by default
sly vigil
Just play rail dude
fresh current
you can't tell me that just straight buffing zag bow with that wouldn't still be in line with the power curve of the rest of the aspects
flint pulsar
imagine playing zag aspects
sly vigil
the lack of punctuation makes that hard to read. but I think powershotting is the "core" identity of Zag bow, at least per the dev perspective. the same way throwing spear and recalling it is the identity for achilles and hades spear.
hammers can change the weapons in different ways and can even alternate the core identity of weapons, sure (looking at you Flurry Shot and Flurry Jab which disables spin), but outright erasing powershotting is too far.
that said, a new repeater aspect, maybe 👀 , though that sounds redundant tbh
fresh current
Hey now
sly vigil
Zag Bow is good
fresh current
Shield zag exists too
flint pulsar
yea
fresh current
I don’t think it’s bad
sly vigil
It's Hestia Rail but different
fresh current
“Skill- gated” is the word I would use for it
sly vigil
though if you really want, you can use first boon selector mod
fresh current
I agree about not changing the fundamental identity for a zag aspect :/ I just think zag is where that would fit best. A passive 15% on attack plus repeater would open up some interesting playstyles
Switch peasant 😦
worldly vigil
is twin shot detrimental wiht chiron bow
sly vigil
to force Flurry Shot every time.
sly vigil
is twin shot detrimental wiht chiron bow
not ideal but no
fresh current
It’s not really beneficial @worldly vigil
sly vigil
not as bad as chain shot at least
fresh current
But it wont hurt you
sly vigil
^
worldly vigil
It's either that or sniper shot
fresh current
Twin
worldly vigil
and I need twin shot for prophecy
sly vigil
twin for sure
fresh current
At least you get +damage then
sly vigil
at least it does something. Sniper shot almost never yields results for me.
and I play bow a lot xD
worldly vigil
I took explosive shot one time and it just ruined the build
fresh current
Yeah bow is full of trap hammers
worldly vigil
took way to long to be able to tag enemies
fresh current
I need to improve my zag bow and sharpen myself. I just struggle with consistently powershotting and it makes zag bow feel weaker than it really is
severe gazelle
Except zag spear. That one is actual garbage hah
the eternal spear is soooooooooo op
good range fast firing good damage
errant bramble
See my immediate follow up comment
severe gazelle
wait you guys are talking about the titan blood upgrades not the real weapons?
errant bramble
Zag spear = spear with aspect of Zagreus
Achilles spear = spear with aspect of Achilles
Haha aspect of a holes.
fresh current
yeah if someone ever uses the term X_spear or sword or rail or whatever
They are referring to the upgrade aspect
Of which zag is one, across all weapons
You will spend most of your time in the game with these unlocked and in consideration, if not fully upgraded
So folks will almost always reference a specific aspect as well when talking about a weapon
Because different upgrade aspects can have huge differences on the way a weapon plays
So it’s important to specify
severe gazelle
i love the dash to thrown spear idk the name
sour coral
thats the Achilles Aspect
severe gazelle
YES FINALY my cousin will download hades
leaden whale
I am amazed by these game animations lol
severe gazelle
after i constantly annoy him
severe gazelle
I am amazed by these game animations lol
ye its cool
he didnt wnat to download it because you start over
until he said ugh FINE
sly vigil
Fine, ig I'll have fun
vivid patio
some people do get put off by the idea of having to start over when failing a run, but hades is really good at not making it feel like a punishment. you get to come back and chat up the cast and progress the story, and you have your permanent upgrades too. so each failed run doesn't really feel like a failure, more like a setback than anything
leaden whale
Finally guyz i made it.
I finished the game in my 19th attempt and ||met my mother||
Hell yeah
sly vigil
Oh yeah
leaden whale
Was that all? No, do not tell me if that was the right ending or no. Do not spoil the fun.
I understand now why ||The right eye of Zagreus is green. How sweet ||🥲
sly vigil
I'll just say keep going
errant bramble
If you think it’s fun, Play more
leaden whale
Wow guyz, believe me or no, the last boss was really ez.
I had A LOT of good perks
All of them working alongside like gears ha
sly vigil
I had some troubled with him for my first win. Took me 4 or 5 tries I think
leaden whale
I just PIERCED through those... ||2 fools in the Elysum.|| And even cleared the ||Five chamber lines|| in the next floor, and beat the last boss in 1 run
I think those guyz wasted like 7 runs of meh.
Go to hell, anyway. (And i will join you soon)
Thanks to our great great sponsor, ||Exagryph||
sly vigil
Did you take a screenshot?
leaden whale
Aw... no.
sly vigil
Rip
leaden whale
But i can show you that: I have cleared it with Exy at least once
leaden whale
Thanks to our great great sponsor, ||Exagryph||
Also many thanks for Ares for A LOT of boons, and Posideon though his boons was not very cool. Thank you dear dear Aphrodite my favorite goddess, sorry the only boon i took from you was your call. And thank you that Pegasus god i don't know your name.
What? Who are Zeus and Artemis and Dionys? Never ever heard about them lol.
errant bramble
You can put all this in victory boasting next time
weary vector
I had some troubled with him for my first win. Took me 4 or 5 tries I think
About the same for me
leaden whale
Huh?
leaden whale
I can't believe it, i killed the last boss with my first try. Recognized it's attack patterns soooo fast lol.
Such a dumb creature. Die.
severe gazelle
i can't get the last keepsake
leaden whale
I am really good. I am no noob.
severe gazelle
im SURE i gave everyone a nectar
sly vigil
You need to get to the end credit mate
leaden whale
Dude i don't wanna spoil so i will give you a hidden hint (though even i am not even sure about it and never saw it)
Have you ever checked the codex? Olymian gods? Their boons? Their duo boons?...
severe gazelle
i was litterly just 1 hit from killing the last boss with the first encounter
then i died
leaden whale
Also many thanks for Ares for A LOT of boons, and Posideon though his boons was ...
Oh no i almost forgot it
Master chaos
Well you were kinda useless but thanks for that +80 money boon helped me A LOT
severe gazelle
litterly 1 HIT
sly vigil
i was litterly just 1 hit from killing the last boss with the first encounter
F
Should have pomed that attack one more time
Smh
weary vector
Are you using the Lucky Tooth? Not really necessary to beat the game but I found the extra safety net reduced my stress in the last fight
Didn't need it in the end but I wasn't panicking on my last health bar kind of thing
sly vigil
Evergreen Acorn is also a good keepsake for biome 3 onwards
leaden whale
I think i used the... the cosmic egg for my whole victory run. Pretty useless bruuuh.
craggy sundial
Lucky tooth is what i use in elysium
and styx
the rest i use black shawl and onwards
fresh current
What ones do you have unlocked kiwi?
Putting at least 1 god boon in the rotation somewhere is usually a pretty good idea
Gives you an “anchor” god to help craft the rest of your build around
gentle anvil
exagryph is a spoiler?
sly vigil
Nah
gentle anvil
oh someone spoilered it
oh yeah question
is this game-- ok nvm i just read #hades-faq
huh, this game was in early access too
sly vigil
:D
sly vigil
Yeah it's out as full release now in September 2020. EA since December 2018 I think.
gentle anvil
ror2 was in EA since late march 2019
sly vigil
I think ror2 just has a more wellknown publisher i think
sly vigil
It's a good game :D
gentle anvil
ror2 has 92k reviews so hades suddenly exploded in popularity recently
i wonder if i'll put as many horus into hades as i did in ror2
for context i put in 726 hours and i have all achievements in ror2
sly vigil
I have 175 in RoR2 and 350 in Hades
Both games are fun though RoR2 shines best with a friend.
While Hades is very bingeable alone
gentle anvil
i wonder how chaotic hades multiplayer would be
sly vigil
Dunno tbh, given the game is designed to be a solo experience
worldly vigil
have you ever tried gungeon co op?
probably something like that which I can't stand lol
gentle anvil
i've tried gungeon co op but it was online and it sucked because it was real laggy since my frienda nd i live on different continents
worldly vigil
I just found that I was always getting shot by things I couldn't see
gentle anvil
thats gungeon in general i guess
errant bramble
What is RoR2?
gentle anvil
does wall slam damage increase if you have more knockback with poseidon's stuff
risk of rain 2
another very great rogue lite
sly vigil
Yup.
sly vigil
does wall slam damage increase if you have more knockback with poseidon's stuff
There is a specific boon that does increase that yes. But knockback alone doesn't.
worldly vigil
if you feel like you will lose the sense of accomplishment, then no
sly vigil
If yoy want. There is no penalty. Do what makes sense to you.
hollow dust
How do you unlock the 3rd skin thingy for weapons?
sly vigil
There is a pinned guide in #h1-story-discussion
hollow dust
Ok
gentle anvil
wait what the hell
what the hell's a legendary
i didnt know there was a rarity above heroic
sly vigil
Legendary is a tier of its own.
worldly vigil
they are similar to duo's. Very rare and require certain boons
gentle anvil
i got one from aphrodite
gentle anvil
it makes it so ||my weak effects have a 15% chance to charm foes||
my special inflicts weak so thats pretty nice
i ||charmed a exploding mini chariot and it suicided into another mini chariot aaand it didnt take damage||
hollow dust
Gan you get the god mode off or is it for ever?
flint pulsar
U can turn it off
flint pulsar
What?
hollow dust
In Hades house
worldly vigil
bruh I am running a chiron build and I got concentrated and relentless volley
I can't decide lol
hollow dust
The ones that build you stuff like the scroll in your bedroom
gentle anvil
its time for theseus time god i hate theseus
flint pulsar
O mirror
hollow dust
Not the mirror
hollow dust
Ok
flint pulsar
You'll be able to buy more later
gentle anvil
wait why can theseus just instantly dash towards you with no telegraph
flint pulsar
Cause u don't need it?
gentle anvil
??
fresh current
Buy all the upgrades from the three ghosts that get you +resources
Those are the best investments early on
Want to get the materials return-on-investment snowball going first things
hollow dust
Ok
stray terrace
wait why can theseus just instantly dash towards you with no telegraph
hide behind a pillar all the time or get screwed basically
gentle anvil
god i hate theseus so much
flint pulsar
hide behind a pillar all the time or get screwed basically
Or iframe all his attacks like a boss 😎
gentle anvil
damn aphrodite really gonna give me better max health upgrades at the end of my run
severe gazelle
guys please for the idk how much time why i can't give nyx the super nectar after she got a lock
sour coral
For theuseus i usually just time my dash when i see the aim reticle become bold
severe gazelle
i can't give her anything now
sour coral
Works most of the time
severe gazelle
my glourious holy nyx deserves the ambosia or what it is
sly vigil
there is an associated quest with that
do you have access to ||the administrative chamber||?
flint pulsar
Rn im saving to do that quest
gentle anvil
OH CRAP I FORGOT I HAVE A TIME LIMIT ON ME
i only have 1 minute to beat the final boss' second phase and i took 4 minutes for that
died to the time limit
sly vigil
F
simple pike
what happens when you die to timer?
gentle anvil
i started taking 5 damage periodically
sly vigil
also ||Pact of Punishment|| is considered spoiler here. #h1-builds-and-combat channel is more appropriate
stray gate
Hey umm, what weapon should I take vs Handsome and Minotaur?
gentle anvil
it says i died to redacted which prob means the game thinks i died to the final boss
sly vigil
5 dmg/s
simple pike
redacted is the toughest boss
sly vigil
Hey umm, what weapon should I take vs Handsome and Minotaur?
The one you are most familiar with?
floral nacelle
Just whatever you like
stray gate
I use Spear
(the game crashed..)
yeah I use the Aspect of Zagerus Spear, but I tried the second one
prob sticking to the 1st Aspect
Went vs them and died 3 times
sly vigil
I use Spear
It's good one. Worst case scenario, just throw spear and run.
faint jewel
I completed the "last" final boss fight.
noice 🙂
median arch
Rail with triple bomb feels like cheating
old escarp
Wait until you try rail with cluster bomb and rocket bomb 
tranquil escarp
Triple bomb is always fun. 😄
median arch
I did hidden aspect > triple bomb and triggered it with dash and just melted hades in like 30 sec
tranquil escarp
Nice, which boons did you have with that build?
modern pawn
whats the best weapon in the game?
fresh current
Thats nice
Spear isn’t bad to start with
Nice and safe
Especially with doom on special
How many weapons do you have unlocked?
fresh current
Oh, good
modern pawn
once
modern pawn
yes
fresh current
Going to reiterate, zag shield is the best 5 blood you can spend early game
If you love your spear you should go for Achilles
But that will run you 15 blood to max out iirc
What other weapons do you like?
modern pawn
just spear really
fresh current
If I were you, I would put 5 blood down on zag shield so you have a rock solid weapon that can carry you through the entire early game if you need it to
then start saving for Achilles
Having preferences is fine, but you should learn to at least be proficient with every weapon. You’re doing yourself a disservice otherwise
And zag is the best value in the game if you’re looking for your first aspect to get maxed out
Specifically shield
You can upgrade your zag spear for cheap if you’re really dead set on it, but spear is the weakest of all the zagreus aspects around
sly vigil
Going to reiterate, zag shield is the best 5 blood you can spend early game
I'm sorry but this a bit too confident. Buy whatever you want. In term of cheap and powerful stuff you also can't discount Hera Bow
Zag fists is also good
Don't say things like Zag Shield best etc etc in new player channel please
dusk elk
zag bow enjoyer
solar panther
Is ||guan yu|| good? I just unlocked and I’m confused by it
dusk elk
It is hard to use but powerful
old escarp
It is good, but I personally recommend waiting until you can fully upgrade it before trying it out
valid mauve
||Is there a way to track how many fish you've pulled?||
errant bramble
Yeah suffers from really need all the upgrades
solar panther
I upgraded it once then did a run to around the 7th chamber and I just don’t get what’s going on
errant bramble
Everything hits harder
old escarp
||Is there a way to track how many fish you've pulled?||
There's an item you can purchase for the lounge, yes
errant bramble
In exchange for health
solar panther
Does the life steal increase max health?
valid mauve
From the lounge, got it
errant bramble
It heals you
dusk elk
The life steal is usable if you do it before enemies spawn in
solar panther
Oh
solar panther
Thanks
stray gate
certain tactics against Handsome and bull ?
kinda went in for the 4th time and got myself spear'd
(I prefer calling them that, I'm sorry)
dusk elk
kill bull first
sly vigil
which weapon are you using?
dusk elk
take eurydice keepsake for easier fight
sly vigil
I guess I can make a short vid of how I would approach the fight
stray gate
Spear all the way baby!
I think my problem is that I always finish fighting Asterius with 0 Death defiance
I always have two and Asterius loves to knock them out of me
sly vigil
do you have DD all upgraded?
sly vigil
well, if you want i can just do a short boss fight boonless to showcase how to fight them. meant to make some footage for a guide anyway.
sly vigil
I have two DDs rn
try to get the third. it helps :D
stray gate
should've said that a bit earlier inb4 I spent somewhat 500 ones
sly vigil
lul
stray gate
But yeah I would appreciate it if you showed me the clip
stray gate
oh wow, evergreen acorn is really good
now I need to get a Nectar and give it to eurydice
stray gate
ok give me a bit to make the run
also I will go out shortly
Make sure to ping me so I can see it later
brazen pelican
||what is it implying when it says "or else!" on tight deadline? does the run just end?||
sly vigil
||you take 5damage/s until you die or finish the biome, whichever comes first||
Though this is a better question for #h1-builds-and-combat as ||Heat|| is spoiler :D
brazen pelican
thank
sly vigil
np!
surreal fog
Made it to ||cerbeus|| without losing a death defiance for the first time, I normally switch my keepsake to a ||lucky tooth|| for the ||hades fight|| but I've been using the ||evergreen acorn|| up to this point and found it really powerful, I can't tell if I'm being stupid but would it be stronger to stick with..?
old escarp
Acorn is a solid choice
surreal fog
Not got past ||hades|| yet feeling like this is the run dont want to screw it up lmao
old escarp
Best of luck!
surreal fog
Better than skull tho?
old escarp
If it comes to the final boss fight, yes
surreal fog
In my thinking unless he's hitting over 25's I don't get the logic
old escarp
In my thinking unless he's hitting over 25's I don't get the logic
||His attacks do up to 40 damage, 80 if he lodges a cast in you||
surreal fog
Lmao OK nevermind
Guess I've never actually looked at his damage
Figured it couldn't have been more than 25
Cheers for the advice :)
Also, does having a boon related to dashing prevent getting other dash related boots?
surreal fog
||specifically trying to get divine dash when I picked up hunters dash earlier||
If I were to have all the main boons would it reset to equal odds?
errant bramble
Your best option is to sell Hunter’s Dash and hope to see Athena dash
errant bramble
No you still have the same low odds of “upgrading” a boon slot
surreal fog
Ah damn
errant bramble
Filling all your boons doesn’t give you free upgrades bc that would be broken.
surreal fog
I dont think replacing boons is broken is it?
errant bramble
Don’t know. Don’t really care to discuss sorry lol
surreal fog
Lmao no prob man, sorry for bothering you
errant bramble
Once you turn on ||Underworld Customs|| after your first win, taking boons to fill a slot and then just selling them off becomes much more common
But you can also deliberately avoid filling your dash slot or special slot if you’re looking for something specific bc that will keep your odds higher
Especially in the case of duo boons which have specific requirements
valid mauve
Do you keep the Lambent Plume bonus after you unequip it?
worldly vigil
I'm not 100% sure, but ik with most keepsake effects you lose them after you unequip
butterfly for example
vivid patio
plume and butterfly lose any bonus if you unequip them
they are essentially something to commit a whole run to
worldly vigil
When you forge a bond with a character, do you ||get all nectar back?|| I just did it with ||Hades|| and he was the first one I had done it with.
errant bramble
No
odd monolith
When you forge a bond with a character, do you ||get all nectar back?|| I just d...
|| Hades will return your Nectar and Dusa will return all your Ambrosia. ||
Afaik
stray terrace
||with dusa you get an option but yeah||
surreal fog
Does sea storm work on bosses?
Trying to get to grips with the mechanics
If its a 'knocks foes away causes lightning' and bosses don't get knocked away it has no effect right?
pastel cipher
it works, because the boon description is "your knock-away effects"
so it doesn't require knock-back to occur
surreal fog
The boons descriptions "When you knock foes away, they are struck by lightning" @pastel cipher
pastel cipher
bosses do get knocked away, just significantly less than regular enemies
except Lernie maybe (not 100% sure)
surreal fog
Ahh okay my mistake, thank you!
quiet cypress
lernie still takes the sea storm damage afaik
surreal fog
Is lernie the hydra..?
pastel cipher
yeah
surreal fog
Ah
hard mantle
Never played a roguelite before
sly vigil
I hope Hades was a good experience then
abstract steeple
I just gained access to the ||Frost Fair Blade by talking to Achilles||. How do I ||gain access to the next locked aspect||?
sly vigil
Your face is a good experience!
aw thanks!
formal rover
I just gained access to the ||Frost Fair Blade by talking to Achilles||. How do ...
||Once you’ve got the spear you can unlock the rest in any order. Instructions for how to get each one are in the #h1-story-discussion pins.||
abstract steeple
ty
sly vigil
@stray gate here is how I would approach the Champions fight.
I tried my best to simulate "new player experience" by limiting my mirror to the first 6 talents. I also tried to avoid boons to simulate "bad RNG." You can have a lot more damage than I did if you just take boons like normal. (I was forced to take tidal dash).
https://youtu.be/3QrRelUgiZY
old escarp
Streamable says it's still processing 
Which is weird, because in my experience Streamable usually goes pretty quick
sly vigil
yeah, well ill give it a bit more time i guess
vivid patio
its saying no to fox
lost plume
any way to make hades use vulkan by default?
sly vigil
Damn streamable is really not working huh
rich cave
any way to make hades use vulkan by default?
You’ll have better luck asking in #h1-tech-support
lost plume
alright will do
old escarp
Damn streamable is really not working huh
Maybe try re-upping it?
sly vigil
im using youtube now and unlist it.
worldly vigil
I love ||EM3|| and the dialogue from Achilles lol
glad even the other characters diss him
sly vigil
Achilles and Artemis
old escarp
Artemis, Dusa, Chaos, Asterius, Tissy
worldly vigil
I've recently become a big fan of orpheus
leaden whale
Of course, Aphrodite is the best (though i don't like her character very much, but her boons are great) Also Ares is cool, with cool boons. Achilles is good, i like him. Skelly is good too, do not forgot him.
Oh and Nyx.
And Zagreus himself lola.
Seriously, i could not complete my run if it wasn't for Ares.
worldly vigil
ayyyyy I just got ||shady||
I'm so happy lol
I've been hunting for it so hard for the last couple days
sly vigil
it's a good one!!
worldly vigil
I have enough ambrosia saved up to immediately max it lol
sly vigil
Seriously, i could not complete my run if it wasn't for Ares.
I really like Battle Rage on certain weapons.
It's an awesome support boon.
leaden whale
Seriously, i could not complete my run if it wasn't for Ares.
His doom-attack boon+ Rift cast (+30%extended size)+ Urge to kill really helped.
Specially that doom-boon combined with ||homing bullet+10% damage|| + ||accurate shot upgrade ammo+6|| upgrade REALLY helped
sly vigil
A bit later into the game you will find weapons like Hestia which can really use that boon.
Love that stuff
leaden whale
I was like "tap tap tap tap right click left click left click left click left click q right click f"
No wonder why ||The last boss. Lol i won't even spoil under a spoiler|| could not even touch me
leaden whale
it could not even hit me lol
||Homing accurate doom bullets was a good build, indeed.||
sly vigil
it seems like you are forced to take boons?
Yeah, the rule is that you need to avoid/sell those boons as soon as possible. If you are forced to take a boon, you can't use it.
So if you are forced to take Crush Shot, for example, you can't cast until you sell it.
leaden whale
Btw... i feel sad to beat the game with ||Exagryph||, not the heartseeker. Shame on me, i betrayed my ansectors.
old escarp
Sounds like you need to do another run, then 
sly vigil
^
worldly vigil
do most people use the seed chooser mod or is it considered big time cheaty
I saw Haelian use it in one of his vids and it seems like it would be super nice to not have to use the god keepsake that first floor
polar smelt
It's personal preference honestly,
I think the vast majority of people use unmodded/non impactful mods
as well as speed runners required to use no mods
pastel cipher
most people don't use it, but if you think it will enhance your game experience go ahead and use it ^_^
polar smelt
but if you want to mess around with some guaranteed stuff, nothing is stopping you
floral nacelle
Seed chooser mod was used in hermes cup, where they race people using the same seed and weapon aspect
leaden whale
but if you want to mess around with some guaranteed stuff, nothing is stopping y...
Dude sorry to say this but i hate your pfp😫😭
worldly vigil
speaking of mods.. are there any good non-impactful ones I should know about?
polar smelt
okay? sorry to hear
pastel cipher
yeah, its used in the hermes cup so the race is as fair as possible, same reason for the ||garenteed 3-sack mod||
worldly vigil
and that's cool about the Hermes cup
I didn't even know seeds were a thing in this game lol
old escarp
I didn't even know seeds were a thing in this game lol
Eh, it's a bit more involved than a set seed like you find in some games that let you choose a seed. It really only guarantees the start to be the same
polar smelt
there's probably people with better knowledge on the subject in the dedicated hades modding discord which can be found in the pinned messages in #self-promotion
however I think the weapon mastery mod is a really cool one which i'll probably get at some stage
sly vigil
speaking of mods.. are there any good non-impactful ones I should know about?
May I suggest Pony's QoL and Ello's Starting Boon Selector?
full depot
Why cant I ping pony
sly vigil
yeah fair
livid ledge
Hey folks, any good strats for using the fists? I only know that I should use Hermès’ keepsake. But should I switch that out at some point to try to get Divine Dash?
sly vigil
you will also need gonad's mod stuff, make sure you read the instructions
sly vigil
Hey folks, any good strats for using the fists? I only know that I should use He...
Maybe I suggest Lightning Strike fist?
worldly vigil
I'm watching the video he has on nexus
polar smelt
Hey folks, any good strats for using the fists? I only know that I should use He...
you wouldn't take it off as you would lose the buff it gives
I'd recommend starting zeus' keepsake and taking the attack boon - it'll speed everything up
old escarp
I personally wouldn't put too much emphasis on using Plume for fists, but do what feels good in your runs. You can never go wrong with Divine Dash, though
sly vigil
Yeah for fists, you can do Lightning Strike and more Zeus stuff, maybe Demeter for Cold Fusion
Alternatively you can take Doom on attack, Deflect on both Special and Dash and find Merciful End.
sour coral
I like Zeus attack on fists
Talos aspect also pretty underrated
Pull range is pretty good
polar smelt
demeter fists best fists
old escarp
Demeter fists are definitely more effective, but Talos is just fun
polar smelt
damn I'm so bad at achilles I'm struggling for ||td1|| in tartarus 
maybe I won't put that on next time
livid ledge
Demeter is the second aspect? I have the magnet on for this run I think.
sour coral
Talos aspect with poseidon special is hilarious
Just yoyo enemies around
I usually do 4 hits > dash strike > 4 hits
Dash earlier to evade attacks as necessary
livid ledge
Alright I will try without the Plume and start with Zeus
I guess I have the blood for Demeter
Can try that too
sour coral
if you dont have a lot of blood, talos is a better "value point" than demeter imo
since demeter really shines once fully upgraded
old escarp
Agreed
sour coral
but the main perk of the talos aspect is the pull rather than the bonus damage
the former of which you get the full effect of at lv1
sly vigil
yeah just use the pull as a debuff
livid ledge
Hmm... maybe I will try it and give up if I don’t like it. I heard you can do that?
sly vigil
the pull itself is gimmicky imo
sly vigil
Hmm... maybe I will try it and give up if I don’t like it. I heard you can do th...
correct.
livid ledge
I already have the magnet unlocked
sly vigil
do not die or walk back to mirror
livid ledge
But not Demeter
sly vigil
unlock your stuff and go
livid ledge
Cool. ||i just beat it the second time|| so it’s still early on for me, still not that much blood or diamonds yet
polar smelt
you're doing well 
livid ledge
Alright thanks folks
dull marten
holy moly i got so far into elysium and ran into || theseus and the minotaur together||
that sucked
LOL
but its the furthest ive ever gotten so wee!
old escarp
Congrats!
dull marten
:)
this is my first roguelike and i was kinda intimidated by the difficulty of it
but i love it
old escarp
Hades is pretty good about breaking you in slowly and giving you a good sense of progression, I know quite a few people who aren't into roguelikes that really like Hades
forest hill
The best part is that even if you die there's always something to look forward to,namely the conversations and future upgrades, unlike most roguelikes
Damn I've played so much hades ever since I got it a week ago lol
I've beaten the game a couple of times but damn did i ever need those death defiances
severe gazelle
@forest hill i love the Stubborn defiance
sly vigil
Stubborn :D
severe gazelle
its basicly 1 death defeianc ebut only regenerate 30% not 50% but you get it back every single chamber
severe gazelle
Stubborn :D
im not english and there are these weird words that i don't even know what they mean xd
sly vigil
Yeah that's ok lol we get you completely. Stubborn means hard to sway, persistent, etc.
forest hill
its basicly 1 death defeianc ebut only regenerate 30% not 50% but you get it bac...
wow thats awesome I've never actually seen that before
severe gazelle
its in the mirror
just switch the upgrade
at the most left
you will see 2 arrows
click it
i accualy didnt relize that onmy own
im blind xD
old escarp
To be fair, you only unlock the alternate talents after a number of runs
It's not a lot, but they aren't there from the start
weary vector
The best part is that even if you die there's always something to look forward t...
That's part of the appeal for me. Always interested to hear what my boy Achilles has to say and petting a good boy
severe gazelle
third run completed
past falcon
its basicly 1 death defeianc ebut only regenerate 30% not 50% but you get it bac...
i dont like that because bosses
severe gazelle
well that's funny i got the hammer upgrade for the normal blade that your special is stronger but no longer knocks foes away but i already have poseidon on my special XD
hollow ledge
So stubborn is basically DD but you get it back after dying?
severe gazelle
yes
but you can't get 3 stack of in in the same room or something
you have 1
if you die you have 0 you enter another room you have 1 back
but it regenerates 30% not 50% like DD
hollow ledge
So you cannot stack them like DD?
severe gazelle
no you can't
but you get them every room
so if you only die once that's good
but if you die like 3 time sin a boss then rip
hollow ledge
I originally thought that changing the upgrades at the mirror is making the game harder
tender roost
lol
hollow dust
I have done the requirements of the other shiel and caos doesn't give me / talk about how to get it :(
odd monolith
Spend Titan Blood on Aegis
odd monolith
Uhh idk if I helped you on that lol but sure
hollow dust
I have spent 3 on Zeus shield , 2+2 on caos shield and 1 on zagreus shield
odd monolith
So you've got the hidden aspect of the shield?
odd monolith
Hmmm have you encountered Chaos during your runs?
odd monolith
Idk how to trigger it precisely but just talk to Chaos and eventually he'll say the chant for you to unlock it
hollow dust
Do I have to use the shield to get it?
muted latch
you need to talk to chaos with it equipped before
and trigger their comment on it
but for the actual revealing phase you dont need it
hollow dust
Is it 5 blood in general or in 1 thing
muted latch
for shield hidden aspect?
5 blood in shield
the only exception is the very first hidden aspect, all other weapons require 5 blood in themselves
hollow dust
I have spent 6 and nothing happened
muted latch
talk to chaos more
hollow dust
Ok...
muted latch
equip the shield if you are not sure whether you got the dialogue or not
hollow dust
Is the shield even worth it?
hollow dust
:0
muted latch
the first comment from chaos on the shield should be very consistent
hollow dust
For now which one should I use, eye or face
muted latch
neither, both shield 2nd and 3rd aspects pretty much requires full blood investment
lv 4 or 5 to truly shine
hollow dust
Then the normal one?
muted latch
zag shield is good enough to clear the game at lv1
invest the blood into the other aspects if you want
but at low levels they are not that amazing
hollow dust
Ok I just upgraded it to lvl 2
north quail
i prefer chaos shield starting at lvl 2 maybe
with some debuff boons for special and hammer upgrade for more bouncing
hollow ledge
yep, chaos shield level 2 is the best upgrading point to start with
what upgrade do you use on spear? I use the Hades one
drowsy plover
My first run with hidden shield was a breeze compared to other hidden aspects
(I'm looking at you ||Guan Yu||)
north quail
i haven't played with any of the hidden aspects rn (except for fists, i got to the final bossfight and died)
drowsy plover
I like Hades spear more than Achilles but that's just me.
drowsy plover
Especially with range upgrade for spin. That makes it almost as big as [Redacted]'s spin attack lol
And what I usually do is use spin right when the mobs spawn
polar smelt
I can't stand achilles, so maybe i'll try hades
I'm still malding over having the components for mirage shot & hunting blades since aspho
and not getting either
for the entire run and dying
drowsy plover
90 runs, still feeling like a noob.
silent magnet
I no longer throw the controller when I die. That's progress, I guess
severe gazelle
what
you litterly won 3 times in a total of 18 runs?
that's pro
i got my third win at attempt 40 xD
then when i got the first win i won over and over and over and over
sinful inlet
oh really? damn
faint jewel
I'm up to like 100 attempts and I'm still nowhere at winning regularly.
hollow dust
I'm trying godmode and still die at the two heroes
rain oracle
I'm over 50 runs and still don't have a spear clear
sleek axle
north quail
i got bow clear at my ~53 attempt
i never used it (it never gave me bonus darkness so i always ignored it)
now i have 10 titan blood and i'm thinking on where to spend it
uneven ledge
zag aspect fists are good
polar smelt
chaos shield & zeus shield are super safe and reliable
Chiron bow is good but needs 15 blood
Zag fists, talos fists & demeter fists are all really strong (demeter needs 15 blood again)
eris rail is by far the most popular rail aspect
uneven ledge
thunder flourish is the best for zeus shield as far as i'm concerned
rain oracle
||Demeter|| special on Zeus shield is so funny
Everything is very stunlocked and sad
uneven ledge
i mean i'd be sad too if i was stuck in place totally vulnerable because of a beyblade spinning right next to me
polar smelt
my ||32 heat|| run was zeus shield, god it's good
||Demeter|| zeus sounds interesting
I should try that too
north quail
same
hollow dust
I am too dumb
formal rover
mood
hollow dust
I just saw on a video that u need the legendary spear first 
formal rover
it’s true
drowsy plover
Zeus shield is underrated
uneven ledge
hidden shield is fun but feels slow and clunky
well it definitely is slow
zeus shield is great but i just find chaos to be more fun to use
hollow dust
Welp imma go try and get blood for the speat
uneven ledge
i mean i did beat up theseus and asterius in 30 seconds or less with it so i might be a tiny lil biased
drowsy plover
Yeah I get why but my Chaos shield is not maxed yet and it's hard to aim with it
hollow dust
i mean i did beat up theseus and asterius in 30 seconds or less with it so i mig...
How
hollow dust
I loose to them a lot
uneven ledge
the general strat is to immediately go for asterius and just watch out for when theseus is gonna throw his spear
there should be a big crosshair on zagreus when he's gonna do that so just hide behind a pillar or something
hollow dust
That's what I do but when Theseus used the gods I am in low health
dense laurel
the general strat would be group asterius and theseus together and kill them both at the same time
uneven ledge
that's not exactly a beginner-friendly thing but it works alright
dense laurel
avoiding asterius atks while also watching for theseus spear at the same time is less beginner friendly
uneven ledge
it's not that hard
dense laurel
then grouping them wil be easier
uneven ledge
there's a big crosshair that alerts you and you can just dash to dodge the spear
stiff lintel
uneven ledge
^^
i mean if you gotta avoid asterius' attacks then just dash to another pillar to get away from him
hollow dust
Any strat to get blood fast?
dense laurel
do prophecies