#h1-for-new-players

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dark fog
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if you just work with the one favourite for now it's fine

final dune
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shield is very usable

unkempt quail
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I am aware that you can make the wepons permanently better but Iโ€™m not sure how

dark fog
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are you playing PC or console?

unkempt quail
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PC

dark fog
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ah okay, I'm console so I actually don't know how that works.... but i'm sure the others can help ๐Ÿ™‚

unkempt quail
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Ok Iโ€™m thankful for your information

unkempt quail
final dune
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good weapon for first clear

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the block is very nice

unkempt quail
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Yeah but I really like the way that it attacks

gray haven
unkempt quail
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How unlock last weapon

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Minus the keys of course

hallow oar
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Once you buy one a new one should appear after you complete a run

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Might be different tho

unkempt quail
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I would appear so

hallow oar
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Ah ok

wheat steppe
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Is hidden sword any good

final dune
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decent

wheat steppe
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Also what do I do about eris I just maxed hestia only to realize eris is cracked and I donโ€™t even have it

final dune
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nemesis better

final dune
wheat steppe
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Bro I just donโ€™t Like nemesis
Poseidon is nice tho

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Ok I donโ€™t want to hear it from you ur biased

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Clocket tho

final dune
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hestia is better though

wheat steppe
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Clocket

final dune
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you can get clockets on hestia

sweet brook
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eris clockets better

final dune
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boo hoo 300 damage big whoop

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hestia hits 1 hit for 1k damage on atk

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meanwhile eris does like 10

copper estuary
final dune
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think so

copper estuary
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and in that vein of thinking, does fp apply to all 5 clockets at once?

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ah

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so nope

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wait thats busted lol

gray haven
hollow summit
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sussy amogussy

cinder knot
gray haven
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Actually yeah. Start with Heartbreak Strike and just stack HP, damage reduction, and dodge chance.

opaque scroll
limpid steeple
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I can't beat asterius and I just have 1 question: when he does his charge, how do you survive without taking damage? What I've been doing is I just keep running and dashing away repeatedly but he keeps coming and following me and eventually catches me. Just... what are you supposed to do?

sweet brook
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make him run into the wall or pillar by dodging last second

final dune
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you essentially have to dash through him or make him run into a wall

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or you can dash through a pillar

sweet brook
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or make him run into theseus, but that's more risky and not necessary when walls and pillars exist lol

limpid steeple
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right ok thanks

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Also can their attacks be reflected? I just went in with a reflect-build and I think I reflected 0 attacks so is that a skill issue or a build issue?

sweet brook
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Skill

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Every attack in the heroes fight can be deflected

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Including the melee ones

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Easiest with divine dash ofc

limpid steeple
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I didn't have divine dash. I got the reflect on the spear attack and buffed up the spin aoe. So what I did against everything else was I just stood there charging up the spin, then as soon as an attack or enemy got near I let it go. I was really effective against everything before the boss.

final dune
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spear spin isn't that good

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you're sort of stuck there while you're charging it

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and it doesn't output much damage

limpid steeple
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Absolutely destroyed the witch's coven though (which I haven't managed before without losing at least 1 death save)

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Literally just stood in the middle of the circle spinning and took no damage and all the witches died really fast

dusty vault
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thats just deflect in general vs witches circle

gray haven
limpid steeple
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Ahh, so standing there waiting for them to attack me wasn't a good idea

celest fox
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||even nerfs poison effects a bit||

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I personally like dash strikes on hidden sword

hollow summit
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Do you actually have to unlock ||Guanyu|| to ||get other hiddens||

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or do you only need to reveal it

celest fox
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You should spoil the name

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Uncertain on the answer. Check the pins. Sorry.

sweet brook
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and also just ||just unlock/reveal, no need to invest anything||

hollow summit
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?

sweet brook
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no

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and you still need to spoiler the name

hollow summit
unkempt quail
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How do you unlock more stuff from the wretched broker

sweet brook
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what'd the farthest you got in your run

hollow summit
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after you beat the game you unlock all the default trades

sweet brook
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spoiler final boss

unkempt quail
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Unfortunately I already know what the final boss but to be fair it is the box name

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Also that would explain why it only shows two things

inland matrix
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How meg

celest fox
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Dodge the circles

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Get the 2nd dash

upbeat locust
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what is the best keepsake with the twin fist weapon ?

final dune
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well it depends

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you can do zoos or ME

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zeus is taking thunder signet and doing zeus attack

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ME is starting vial and taking ares attack and then taking the pendant owl thing into aspho and looking for divine flourish and merciful end and getting divine dash and hopefully impending doom

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or you could do drunk fists

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which is taking dionysus cup thing and taking dio atk and pomming it to hell

upbeat locust
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I think ill change my game in english because i donโ€™t understand a thing lmfao but ty for the answer

celest fox
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You can also try something like Smouldering Air (Aphrodite + Zeus), but that's a little more delayed. You want Zeus Attack and Call, and Aphrodite Special.

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I suggest this because you probably havent tried Calls much, and you may like them.

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Them and casts get more useful

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Smouldering Air makes your calls very rapidly charge up to a maximum of 25%

limpid steeple
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Yo I finally managed to beat Theseus and Asterius! All it took was an incredibly bone-headed cursed blade +crits build (had about 70% chance to crit with each crit dealing even more damage and charging my call bar faster) that involved just being ridiculousy aggressive and button-mashing at the enemy until they die. Thanks for the help (I still failed to dash through the pillar effectively, but charging at the bull worked)

celest fox
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The best builds are very bone headed

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Once you get some more mirror stuff you basically lose value from cursed strike instead of gaining much

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More health more defiances and more heart containers throughout the run

opaque scroll
celest fox
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High confidence is ill advised

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It's not much dmg

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It is global dmg I believe which means it even applies to Calls

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Use Thick Skin or whatever its called

final dune
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high confidence is used for speedruns and that is about it

celest fox
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That way you can focus on boons early and more poms and hearts later, after Asphodel

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Yeah

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Still take poms and hearts early when they seem like the best option

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You can just skip more boons later

final dune
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donโ€™t underestimate poms

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some new players will skip poms thinking they arenโ€™t worthwhile

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most boons greatly benefit from a good pomming

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they drop off after like lvl4 but till then itโ€™s worthwhile

opaque scroll
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^

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Never really took poms till ||Mom Pom|| and now I love em.

sweet brook
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or at least that specific one

unkempt quail
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What is the objective โ€œbest weaponโ€ in the game?

final dune
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if i were to answer how most people would

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i'd say there is none

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but also

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HESTIA ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช

sweet brook
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Or best weapon really

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There's like a top half and bottom half but that's about it

unkempt quail
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How about for shield

unkempt quail
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I see

sweet brook
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Mostly because of how good blocking is, but also because charged shot hammer is busted lol

sweet brook
unkempt quail
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For shield

sweet brook
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Hidden

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Otherwise zeus

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Hidden shield is a contender for best aspect in the game, could be considered the best

upbeat locust
gray haven
viscid notch
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me

gray haven
gray haven
opaque scroll
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I just realised lol.

gray haven
unkempt quail
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What is the objective best god?

viscid notch
sweet brook
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Depends on weapon and build

final dune
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i don't think i'm allowed to answer this question

worn lagoon
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is there an option to hold left mouse instead of spam click?

final dune
worn lagoon
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oh idk i just started and have the sword

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holding seems to be basic

viscid notch
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On sword you wont be able to hold it

final dune
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on sword you generally want to special + dash strike + dash strike, or if you don't have your second dash special + dash strike + attack

gray haven
viscid notch
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You want to be dash striking anyway so you'll click for each

unkempt quail
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THE FINAL BOSS IS ||yourself||

worn lagoon
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alright thx

final dune
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don't say that

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it's a spoiler

viscid notch
unkempt quail
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Dang I didnโ€™t know

unkempt quail
final dune
unkempt quail
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Iโ€™m stupid witch one is that

final dune
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?

worn lagoon
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why sometime enemies get full health again afteri kill them?

final dune
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if the health bar is yellow they have armor

worn lagoon
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hm leme check if its that

unkempt quail
final dune
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she's pink and stuff

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boon name would be heartbreak strike

unkempt quail
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I see

worn lagoon
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are there "Better" weapons or its just pref?

viscid notch
unkempt quail
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How do you get the โ€œhiddenโ€ aspect for shield

final dune
next latch
final dune
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thereโ€™s like

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a top 3 and a bottom 3 grouping

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sword spear and fists are generally worse than rail shield and bow

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but sword and spear both have a top tier aspect

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fists is just kinda

opaque scroll
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I wanna defend fists, but I gotta be objective.

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So Iโ€™ll just say Fists are fun and are tied with Bow as the most popular weapon.

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I think thatโ€™s fair, rii?

sweet brook
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tied with bow for you or in general

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because a lot of newer players tend to not like bow a lot because they aren't aware of how dash striking charges it faster

final dune
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i think the most popular weapon would be shield

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excluding the part where most people probably havent unlocked anything other than sword

unkempt quail
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I agree that was the case for me

fickle raft
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is it possible to reroll dark thirst?

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how long do i have to wait

next latch
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die

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then you reroll

opaque scroll
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But yeah, Iโ€™m way too dumb for bow, I get why newbies donโ€™t get it right away.

sweet brook
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what polls

opaque scroll
# sweet brook what polls

Huh, I think I confused the Aspect vs Aspect polls thatโ€™s been happening recently with the polls on Reddit Iโ€™ve found,

next latch
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i didnt like bow until i got the other aspects

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and woah

unkempt quail
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Shield go brrrr

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Btw whatโ€™s the best aspect for shield besides the hidden one

final dune
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zeus

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zagshield is also good

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chaos is worthless

next latch
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chaos worst

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yea

unkempt quail
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The hidden one?

opaque scroll
next latch
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nope, hidden is the best

unkempt quail
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Oh

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Iโ€™m still to lazy to get it it took me 3 hours to get 1 and a half ||titan|| ||blood||

next latch
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-and a half?

unkempt quail
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Yes

sweet brook
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is that a diamond

unkempt quail
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No

sweet brook
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how'd you get a half

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okay buddy

hallow oar
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Bro what

opaque scroll
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I think maybe they have half of the things they need to trade for a titan blood?

sweet brook
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that'd be a diamond

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because 2 diamonds -> 1 ambrosia -> 1 titan blood

leaden whale
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what are some good gods to go for when play something other than the bow? i'm great at that but not any of the other weapons

final dune
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the faster hitting lower damage weapons prefer zeus or dionysus on attack

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while the slower hitting higher damage ones would like aphrodite, athena

leaden whale
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that makes sense, what about the spear? thats the main one i have trouble using

final dune
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well

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spear actually is kinda weird because it hits fastish and does decentish damage

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you can typically do zeus or artemis attack on it

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those are common

next latch
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don't charge attack while enemies are approaching
you wanna like
ambush while they're spawning

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unless you know you're safe

leaden whale
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what about the special? im guessing that works well with zues

next latch
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more so aphro and arty
i suppose zeus could work, I don't have practice with zag spear

dusty vault
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Dont bother with the special unless you find exploding skewer/are playing Achilles where os used for your buff and mobility

gray haven
opaque scroll
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Nyaanyaa, the eternal newbiesitter.

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Whatโ€™d the noobs do without ya?

gray haven
opaque scroll
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True, but you help both.

opaque scroll
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Yeah, newbie mean new person but noob is someone who just doesnโ€™t understand the game regardless of how long theyโ€™ve played.

grave hill
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noob usualy can mean either and or both but definitely has changed meaning over the years

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noob specifically is like " u suck , noob"

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u could even say something like
"ive played this game for 5 yrs and im still a noob" if ur just bad

next latch
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me fr

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i am a noob who just beat ||32 heat||

opaque scroll
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Lel.

next latch
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yk what

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no matter how good i get in a game I'll always call myself a noob

opaque scroll
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Keep yourself humble. o7

gray haven
next latch
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oh goodness

wheat steppe
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I really want to like hidden shield, but I feel like itโ€™s almost unplayably slow without SuddenRush, and I tried it with trippy flair, but Stygian doesnโ€™t seem to work without chaos, and the other one is just slow

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What do I do

final dune
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and second off

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are you charging up the rush a lot

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with hidden shield you typically want to do the least charge rush

wheat steppe
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I canโ€™t guarantee a hammer

final dune
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using your dash to get near enemies

final dune
wheat steppe
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Itโ€™s just so clunky

final dune
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cshot is necessary for speed but your life will generally be fine most of the time

dusty vault
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dash strike into bull rush

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that along speeds it up a lot

final dune
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something something asphodel guru

dusty vault
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and yeah dont bother charging it

final dune
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although i guess it's a lot harder to get asphodel gurud without ||fo2||

wheat steppe
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And whatโ€™s fo2

final dune
dusty vault
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||also remap your cast button so you can comfortably load casts during the rush||

wheat steppe
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What guru

final dune
dense island
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my cast is m2!

final dune
dense island
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i got unlucky

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im gonna cry

final dune
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it's called that because the link to it is asphodel.guru

wheat steppe
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Ok

dense island
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5/5 ROOMS

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IM GOING CRAZY

dusty vault
final dune
dusty vault
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wait should i be even talking about hidden shield mechanics here bouldy

final dune
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you can just spoiler it

sweet brook
# wheat steppe I really want to like hidden shield, but I feel like itโ€™s almost unplayably slow...

||dash striking into the rush helps a lot, getting charged shot would be more ideal but the first part is more important and universal. not much can be done about the slower atk speed and whatnot on hidden shield, just something that needs to be worked around and learned. ||
||trippy flare isn't that great of a build because of how inconsistent due to chaos. if you wanted a more stable build, you can do the typical flood flare -> mirage shot, or if you dont want a duo you can do passion flare -> snow burst/frost strike/mistral dash (with psattus)||

wheat steppe
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I feel like nemesis is busted but also a pain to build bc itโ€™s hard to choose hammers or even increase probability for one, and u kinda need double edge. Iโ€™ve tried like 4 times and havenโ€™t gotten it

hollow summit
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i beat the game on 60 ||heat|| ez

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(i checked the outside temperature and it was 60 farenheight)

sweet brook
hollow summit
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just the real life concept which you feel when you touch grass

final dune
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yes you are and it's a spoiler

hollow summit
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ok what the hell y'all can't get a joke

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geuss i'm spoilering it

final dune
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well the joke is obvious

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it's just not funny and still a spoiler

hollow summit
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ok i geuss

hallow oar
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It was a good joke lmao

hollow summit
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my joke is trash

unkempt quail
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Me playing on a pc that is literally on fire

trail oxide
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i got titans blood and I wanna upgrade my sword idk how tho ;-;

celest fox
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Interact with your sword while it is equipped

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On the mantle

trail oxide
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uhh idk nothin appearing or maybe im blind

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no option to press e

final dune
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do you have rail yet

trail oxide
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no idk what that is i just killed the lady and got out of tartarus.... and died

final dune
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oh yeah you have to play more to get that

trail oxide
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ah alr

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thanks

pearl dock
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achilles is gone when does he come back im trying to get guan yu

next latch
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die

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he'll be back from break one death or another

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make sure you have the required ||extra titan blood spent||

iron orchid
next latch
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๐Ÿ’€

iron orchid
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Horrible jokes aside, pray to RNG Gods.

pearl dock
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alr ty

leaden whale
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Does nourished soul make life steal hammer augments more effective?

final dune
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Most likely

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However there are no good life steal hammers

next latch
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sword hammer is ok

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sword is a kinda just a meme though

final dune
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i mean

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cursed slash just doesn't work on dash strikes

next latch
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OH

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i see

final dune
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so essentially you lose 60% of your health for literally nothing

gray haven
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Spoiler tags for hidden aspects btw. squirtnya

hollow summit
cinder carbon
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Is it normal to take 7+ tries to beat Meg?

next latch
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yea

cinder carbon
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good ๐Ÿ˜„

charred palm
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does the damage that the enemies take stack with each cast stone in them or do you only need one cast stone in them to do more damage

next latch
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only one

charred palm
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ok

buoyant mulch
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i just wanted to double check something, if i want to ||reunite achilles and patroclus|| do i need to complete ||sisyphus' and orpheus/eurydice's favor first||

next latch
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they're unrelated as far as i know

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in my experience ||Eurydice|| comes first

buoyant mulch
iron orchid
leaden whale
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any tips for the new player

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or returning player

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who hasent played for a long time

frosty iris
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Question

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Is there missable dialogue for getting out too early?

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I managed to haul my ass to the last zone

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On the seventh try

gray haven
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Hmmmmm no. You might get a slightly different variation on very very rare occasions than you would have gotten otherwise, but you won't miss anything.

frosty iris
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Oh, good

austere burrow
iron orchid
hollow summit
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||guanyu|| ||beowulf|| ||arthur|| ||lucifer|| ||rama|| ||gilgamesh|| ||eurydice and orpheus reuniting|| ||achilles and patroclus reuniting|| ||sisyphus freed|| ||redacted is the final boss|| ||heat|| ||titan's blood|| ||meg romance|| ||than romance|| ||dusa "romance"|| ||ambrosia|| ||lyre which you play and gets better|| ||family feast epilogue|| ||mom poms|| ||hades aid|| ||chthonic companions|| ||songs bought with gems|| ||batcage|| ||diamonds|| ||mods|| ||tisiphone and alecto fights|| ||hydra head attack variations|| ||demeter|| ||clockets|| ||greece||

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funny

trail oxide
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sometimes when I load into a run Hades will appear and a word will appear like "Fear", what does that mean?

final dune
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light sprinkling of lore

trail oxide
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ah alr-?

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so just lore

midnight cape
trail oxide
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yea

final dune
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it's generally relevant to whatever dad is talking about

upbeat spoke
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it's supposed to be flashbacks of Hades teaching Zagreus about stuff

limpid steeple
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Finally won for the first time! Took 48 runs. I had the zeus-aspect shield with reflect and so the main strategy was I just stood behind the spinning thing blocking while enemies kept attacking into it and either doing 0 damage because of block or hitting the spinning thing and having it reflect back.

drifting acorn
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Are darkness and cthonic keys farmable? (As in I would have a ton of them even after I max everything)

hollow grove
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there's no limit to how much darkness/keys you can get, if that's what you're asking

drifting acorn
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That means I don't need to be so careful about spending currency

fallen gale
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What do you guys do when offered boons for moves that seem kinda weak? For ex. This run most of the stuff I've been offered is for the spear's throw attack, which seems like it would have less DPS potential than mashing attack/charged spin

sweet brook
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there's a boon offering system that makes it so you will see a special boon offered if you dont have one yet, broadly speaking

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(1) If all priority slots (i.e., Attack, Special, Cast, and Dash) are empty, fill all three slots with priority boons,
(2) if an exchange is possible, 10% chance to add an exchange to one free slot,
(3) if 2 fails and there are free priority slots, add one priority boon to one slot,
(4) 50% chance to add a tier 2 status curse (i.e., Jolted, Marked, Rupture, or Exposed) to one slot if boon requirements are met,
(5) roll for legendary/duo for each remaining slot,
(6) roll for epic for each remaining slot,
(7) roll for rare for each remaining slot,
(8) fill all remaining slots with common,
(9) fill all remaining slots with whatever is available.

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by nyaanyaa

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you can either just ignore the special boon, or just take something just to fill the slot

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you can use it to open duos as well

fallen gale
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Ty for info

Another question, do special attacks on the X button (bull rush, spin slash) benefit from increased attack damage?

next latch
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Yes

sweet brook
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oh that special attack lmao

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what are they normally called

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because there's already a special

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alternate attack?

upbeat spoke
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charge attack?

gray haven
fallen gale
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What about dash attack? It has its own boons, does attack bonus buff that up too?

Also looks like spear throw can be better than I thought 0_0

next latch
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attack damage will buff dash-strike damage

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however some boons specifically buff dash-strike damage

gentle jungle
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how to play

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never played a game like this

sweet brook
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Hit button

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Kill

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Get killed

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Try again

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Upgrade stuff

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Have fun

gentle jungle
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ok ez

celest fox
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Dash hit dash hit repeat

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Try to actually dash to dodge something instead of dashing aimlessly

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Or dash to get somewhere

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It always reminded me a lot of flash action games

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Lots of those basically have the same style of combat. Just a lot simpler.

fallen gale
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Good lord ||twin fists|| kick total ass

next latch
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they're quite fun

fallen gale
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Handily beat Elysium for the first time with them paired with Zeus bolts on attack, bolts on bolts (Leg), legendary +dashes & Athena deflect on dash.. plus sturdy when attacking.. kind of disgusting

dusty vault
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Legendary + dashes?

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Oh heroic i assume

thin mauve
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so does this game have an end or do you just keep dying and replaying?

final dune
thin mauve
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I am enjoying the game, I just got it, but I like having some end goal to climb towards, and also a little confused by this rune system. Is there anything in this game which lasts through death?

final dune
#

which you can use for like unlocking aspects and such

#

blood, ambrosia, diamonds, nectar, keys, darkness

#

also, your progression through the story

#

if you want an โ€œend goalโ€, getting to the credits is a pretty obvious initial one if you feel you want to โ€œcompleteโ€ the game

#

naturally in a rogue lite thereโ€™s no real end

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but the story will slow down over time as you get more dialogue and complete more things

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also wdym by rune system

thin mauve
#

Yeah this is my first "rogue" game.

#

Never played a game like this before.

thin mauve
final dune
thin mauve
#

Yes those. Are those limited to 4 for the entirety of the game?

final dune
#

No

thin mauve
#

Because there seem to be a lot.

final dune
#

you can have many many more lol

thin mauve
#

I just see like 4 slots.

final dune
#

those are your core slots

#

attack, special, cast, dash

#

and kinda call

#

the others are supporting boons

thin mauve
fallen gale
#

Keep playing, it gets better as you go. It's very well balanced in terms of meta progression and learning the game

final dune
#

call is a core boon but not a priority boon

#

has to do with the way the game rolls boons

#

but for now, just keep playing

#

use whatever weapon you like

#

play however you want

#

get more stuff

thin mauve
#

Alright, thanks yall.

fallen gale
#

They were really smart with making death advance the story

#

So every run youre winning regardless if you don't get further

final dune
#

yeah itโ€™s rather difficult to implement an actual plot in a rogue lite

thin mauve
#

Actually one question, so I noticed that sometimes I can only attack in a certain direction, and sometimes i can attack in any directions? You guys know what I am talking about

fallen gale
#

But then you'll get there faster and learn the boss patterns

final dune
#

are you on kbm or gamepad

thin mauve
#

Gamepad.

final dune
#

erm

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gamepad you should be able to attack wherever

thin mauve
#

sometimes when I hit attack, I always attack to the right

final dune
#

and move wherever

final dune
thin mauve
#

Might be my controller, I'll keep checking it out

final dune
#

is nyaanyaa up

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@gray haven do u know what this person means

#

iโ€™m too kbmpilled for this

thin mauve
#

Well I was wondering if there was a boon for this, to attack in any direction.

final dune
thin mauve
final dune
#

only thing that couldnโ€™t do that is keyboard only

final dune
thin mauve
#

Oh maybe I should turn that off then, that could be the culprit.

sweet brook
#

Well

final dune
#

i mean

#

on gamepad

sweet brook
#

You should keep that on lol

final dune
#

itโ€™s very useful

#

hades is not really a game about aiming

sweet brook
#

If you're close enough to an enemy it'll lock onto them

thin mauve
sweet brook
#

For controller you aim by the direction you're facing, so that depends on your movement stick

thin mauve
#

yeah I dont know, I will be holding down and then hit attack and start attacking right lol

sweet brook
#

welp

thin mauve
#

Could be a hardware issue, I'll have to check it out further

sweet brook
#

no clue lol

gray haven
#

If it's always to the right, it shouldn't be from aim assist.

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It sounds like stick drift.

thin mauve
gray haven
#

If you're on PC, you can try adjusting the deadzone of your analog stick.

#

And by adjust I mean increase it a bit.

thin mauve
#

Yeah if it becomes a big issue, will definitely

gray haven
#

It could also be dirt in the controller. Also unplug all other USB devices you don't need and see if the problem persists. USB can have the weirdest problems like that sometimes.

thin mauve
#

k

gray haven
#

Also if you're using a bluetooth/wifi controller, keep any connected USB devices and cables away from them because USB can cause interference. Shouldn't be the particular cause here, but might as well make doubly sure we can rule it out.

soft wyvern
#

Hihi

brave citrus
sweet brook
#

when theseus is in his second phase, he gains all the abilities of the god he summons, kinda like how you do when you pick up a god boon

#

his god summon was zeus, and his spear throw calls down a lightning bolt when it lands

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the aoe of it is quite large so it hit you through the pillar

brave citrus
#

Not me having 300 hours and not knowing that

sweet brook
#

lmao i didn't notice it until a lot later

brave citrus
#

He always gets ||Meg'd|| these days

sweet brook
#

tbh idr if his spear throw inflicts hangover

#

but i'm pretty sure he can crit with arty

#

idk how much damage it crits because i dont pay attention (and he gets instaphased most of the time)

#

if it does crit anyways

hallow oar
#

I think it would

sweet brook
#

i would think so too but i dont remember it happening so i can't confirm that lol

#

but just following the trend of him getting god boons like you, it might

#

i really only noticed this when he dropped doom on me lmao

#

and also ||his spear throw summons a demeter call at the end of it, which is super annoying||

#

idk if that's actually a spoiler because that can happen before reaching the surface i think but whatever

hallow oar
#

just in case

#

Is that how it works I thought it was random

sweet brook
#

the god he summons?

#

yeah it's random out of the gods you didn't pick up from that run

hallow oar
#

I mean ||the demeter spawn||

sweet brook
#

oh that yeah

#

reach the surface and you can see their boons

sweet brook
#

because that's technically "after final boss"

hallow oar
#

Ah right yeah

#

ofc

sweet brook
#

because the whole idea is like ||oh i didn't realize you existed until you got to the surface where i can see you||

hallow oar
#

Yeah makes sense

hallow oar
#

Yeah so pick the gods you dont want to show up

#

Thats what i do to fill my god pool if i need to make a choice

sweet brook
#

honestly, none of them are that bad except ||demeter||

hallow oar
#

Yeah true

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Although I hate dio

next latch
#

dio can damage theseus

hallow oar
#

As a god the theseus takes

hollow summit
#

"yea your effects aren't that good, your damage multiplyers are kinda good but i'd rather go tos or artem"

hollow summit
hollow summit
#

that thing stuns you for so long

#

and does pretty good damage too

thin mauve
#

Are the "Call" boons worth it? I get them and then can never actually cast because it says I dont have enough meter

#

how do you get meter for those?

astral ruin
#

is it worth buying hades, its in sale rn, Im scared that i'll play the game once and never again

upbeat spoke
#

so when you move to next room you start from zero again

sweet brook
#

dealing damage, taking damage, and hitting enemies

#

dealing damage and hitting enemies are kinda correlated, but if you chunk them for 300 damage vs 10 instances of 30 damage, you'll get more call charge in the latter method

sweet brook
#

it mainly just depends if you like the genre or not

#

if you like the idea of roguelikes/roguelites, then you'll like the game

upbeat spoke
#

also the game I would say has a lot of kind of safety built in where it can be a lot more forgiving if you want to than some other roguelikes, if you played some of the more hardcore ones and didn't like them you might still like Hades

#

but if you really hate the genre then I would say probably even those wouldn't get you over that hurdle

sweet brook
#

oh yeah there's an "easy mode" in this game that doesn't take anything away from the gameplay or story

upbeat spoke
#

also even if you fail you still feel like you're progressing in some aspects at least

astral ruin
#

thanks guys, I just bought the game

cobalt wasp
#

Just got the game and a few hours in

#

What is the difference between increasing the level and increasing the rarity of boons

sweet brook
#

most of the time, not a lot

#

there's a few boons that rarity matters a lot like ares atk/special and aphrodite atk/special and a single pom level won't cover the gap

#

but most of the time, 1 pom level is roughly 1 rarity level

hollow summit
sweet brook
#

It's 12.50 rn iirc

celest fox
#

Just makes it rapidly fill but cap at 25%

#

For reference calls have 4 bars/levels. If you have under 4 bars, you consume 1. If you have all 4, it's a much longer effect.

#

Mostly damage but Athena's is invulnerability

#

Very useful

sweet brook
#

isn't arty's call 5 bars?

celest fox
#

I'm fairly certain they're all 4

sweet brook
#

i honestly dont remember but i do remember seeing one god call having more bars than others

celest fox
#

Maybe

sweet brook
#

like "huh those bars are small" lmao

#

but yeah calls are neat

celest fox
#

It would make sense with stuff like support fire

sweet brook
#

you generally want to never use full call unless it's artemis or aphrodites if you want to maximize damage

celest fox
#

Yeah

#

Some of them are good for mobility and dmg too. Poseidon's is very fun

#

You surf and do huge impact dmg

sweet brook
#

ares call is one of the calls of all time

celest fox
#

If you want to ever try out that call Duo, get an Aphrodite and Zeus core boon, and a call. It can be one of theirs'.

sweet brook
#

generally for dps, zeus and dio are the best. zeus you want supporting zeus boons like static discharge, dio you want a bunch of poms

celest fox
#

I like it tbh

#

It's funny with CoD

#

Both of those Gods' calls are good for CoD though

#

Best duo

#

I should change my name to that

#

People think I seriously promote Maim instead of just stubbornly using it

final dune
sweet brook
#

yeah that's what i thought

final dune
#

i feel like ares does

#

but arty definitely sounds right

sweet brook
#

mostly seen after getting ME

final dune
#

cod isnโ€™t real

sweet brook
#

because there's nothing else to build for once you get it all running

#

CoD kinda based if you get RD on ME

#

also it is just free damage, boiling blood kinda pointless on most ME aspects

#

only exception would be like spread fire zag rail or maybe achilles

final dune
#

achilles MEspect????

#

itโ€™s useful on GY

sweet brook
celest fox
#

I aim for CoD all the time. Its excellent

final dune
sweet brook
#

probably

#

you can do a lot of things if you weren't a coward

final dune
#

this is in new players wtf

sweet brook
#

lmao

final dune
#

how did this convo start

sweet brook
#

yes

final dune
#

i see

thin mauve
#

I think I just got an option to pick either ares or artemis, I dont think I saw anything called "duo". I picked areas and artemis got triggered.

sweet brook
#

oh yeah that exists

#

duo boons have pre-requirements that you filled, and they more or less combine the skills of two gods into one

#

ares and artemis duo is hunting blades, so your slicing shot cast will track enemies

#

every god combo has this (apart from hermes and chaos)

thin mauve
#

Does it say "duo" on the boon?

sweet brook
#

yeah lol

#

it's got a green tinge on it

#

a lot of them kinda suck, but there's a good chunk that are pretty good

hollow summit
#

sussy backuh

acoustic fossil
#

Hello, how can we be sure the game saves? I played for hiurs yesterday and came back to no gamefile/no progress on the file menu...

grave hill
#

it should automatically save constantly

#

like every time u enter a new room

gray haven
drifting acorn
#

I hope that no story content is locked behind the optional difficulty systems?

drifting acorn
grave hill
#

one of the best things of hades, it can be as easy or difficult as you want it to be

gray haven
#

That system is a spoiler in this channel btw. tizomg

cobalt wasp
#

any way to see my hammer upgrades so far through the run?

next latch
#

same way you see your current boons

#

i think the default is B on kbm

cobalt wasp
#

oh its part of the god boons, thanks

#

anyone give me any pointers as to what boons/duoboons i should want with the sword and if i want hammer upgrades?

final dune
gray haven
final dune
#

i see

next latch
#

double edge is the best sword hammer

#

and wave just gives you an extra hit

cobalt wasp
next latch
#

merciful end

gray haven
cobalt wasp
gray haven
#

Yeah.

cobalt wasp
#

Okay thanks, will read through! noxfraSeemsGood

gray haven
#

If you only have base weapons for now, my Newbie Build Guide is pinned here with simple boon suggestions for all the base weapons to get you started and explore builds from on your own. squirtnya

cobalt wasp
#

Perfect tysm noxfraLove

upbeat locust
#

Can someone help me pls i made the build for the zoos aspect of the shield but it never lands on ennemies and i dunno how to play it well

upbeat locust
#

Yea

#

I prefer playing bow with chiron aspect

#

But still need to use the shield to get more blood and stuff

final dune
#

zag shield very easy to use

upbeat locust
#

But less effective unfortunately

#

Is there a boon or smth that makes the shield go to the target himself ?

final dune
#

really all shields are aspect of cshot

sweet brook
upbeat locust
#

Itโ€™s zeus

sweet brook
#

get closer to enemies and use your special, smack them into the spinning disc

#

bull rush into it and recall it if you have explosive return, which is the best hammer for it

#

otherwise, you can just use charged shot

#

using thunder flourish gives you more aoe

upbeat locust
#

I was using hangover on special

sweet brook
#

that's also good

upbeat locust
#

For bow chiron aspect is zoos flourish better ?

sweet brook
#

nope

#

there's an internal cooldown on thunder flourish so you'll only get like 1-2 bolts of lightning per volley

upbeat locust
#

I see, it wouldโ€™ve bee too strong

#

And also jolted effect

sweet brook
#

hangover on the special is also good, but if you have level 4+ chiron and you can guarantee concentrated volley, artemis on the special is good

#

both want the duo boon with aphrodite

upbeat locust
#

I usually do hangevoer flourish and aphrodite on attack

#

Then

#

Artemis cast

#

And ares for revenge

sweet brook
#

yeah that works if you want to fish for every possible duo boon lol

#

the more important part is aphrodite + dionysus for atk and special respectively

#

and then their duo

upbeat locust
#

How to get more chance to get it

upbeat locust
sweet brook
#

low tolerance

#

curse of nausea is ares + dio

upbeat locust
#

Isnโ€™t it the best for it ?

sweet brook
sweet brook
upbeat locust
#

I have unlocked all but idk if i choosed the right things

sweet brook
#

gods' legacy isn't that important tbh, most people run gods' pride

#

even if their build needs a duo boon

upbeat locust
#

Is it the thing that makes 8 instead of 5 hangevor on ennemies when weak ?

sweet brook
#

yeah that's low tolerance

upbeat locust
#

My game keep being in french everytime i launch it thatโ€™s annoying

upbeat locust
#

Idk what epic gives more than others rarity

sweet brook
#

hermes and chaos rarity is good

upbeat locust
#

Is it better dark foresight or olympian favor ?

sweet brook
#

also certain boons like ares atk/special and aprhodite atk/special like rarity

sweet brook
#

dark foresight lets you see more boons among other things

upbeat locust
#

I see

#

And about fated persuasion and fated authority

sweet brook
#

fated persuasion

upbeat locust
#

Ty

sweet brook
#

there's a mirror guide pinned here

upbeat locust
#

Oh ok ty

#

So what do you think i should do after getting hangevor flourish and weak on attack ? Should i keep the aphrodite keepsake if iโ€™m unlucky or go for someone else and what to take after having the duo boon

sweet brook
#

i'd just take acorn for both

#

or hourglass or coin purse

upbeat locust
#

I donโ€™t understand what does hourglass do

sweet brook
#

stuff you buy from wells last longer

#

prob not great for chiron, but you could get some decent stuff

#

more special damage, hydralite, etc

final dune
#

9x ixion :croven:

upbeat locust
#

I donโ€™t really use the well of charin

#

O*

final dune
upbeat locust
#

Well rn am trying to farm blood

#

So i keep money for the last shop

#

After getting everything in the mirror what are the keys for

next latch
#

contractor upgrade

upbeat locust
#

Ty

trail oxide
#

I BEAT THE GAME FOR THE FIRST TIME!!

next latch
#

splendid

trail oxide
#

I still have this bottle of like honey or smth, idk i got it for defeating a boss (I think the final one in Elysium) and idk what to do with it

trail oxide
#

very ominous, ok ok i see

sweet brook
#

it's not useful atm, but you'll figure it out soon enough

fast tree
#

Hi everyone.

#

I wanted to ask which aspect is the best to invest Titan blood in for new players?

gray haven
#

The one you like the most.

#

You can find my guide in pins if you want to see what you can expect in terms of power.

autumn prawn
#

also pretty strong btw

grave hill
fast tree
#

I see

grave hill
#

if u like the bow, definitely zag bow.. but the other zagreus aspects arent quite as good

#

swords not bad

#

but zag bow with that crit chance can be super good ๐Ÿ‘Œ

gray haven
#

Lv.1 Hera better than Zag Bow. tizomg

next latch
#

zag shield is good to max too

upbeat locust
#

If i only have 1 boon will eurydice only give me one level or 4?

dusty vault
#

One lvl

upbeat locust
#

So i should take the rarity

sweet brook
#

or sweet nectar

#

for better boon rarities later

dusty vault
#

Refreshing nectar*

sweet brook
#

which is like 97% of the time the right choice

dusty vault
#

Sweet is aphro-pos

sweet brook
#

yeah that's what i meant

#

oops

upbeat locust
#

Ok ty

final dune
#

+1 to all pom levelling

upbeat locust
#

Oh

#

I use dio and Aphrodite

sweet brook
#

that's a spoiler here

upbeat locust
#

Ah sorry

upbeat locust
#

Why sometimes i canโ€™t donate nectar to some npcs

celest fox
#

Not enough hearts yet

#

I think

pliant juniper
#

Anyone know what Hermes boon for faster special does exactly? Faster projectiles? Faster reload speed?

final dune
#

you can press button sooner

pliant juniper
#

So I just realised Patroclus attack boost works with hourglass and Iโ€™m on heat 10

final dune
#

it should last a flat ten chambers

pliant juniper
#

Oh.. could have sworn it was 6

wraith jetty
grave hill
#

what % is pattys attack boost again?

final dune
modest apex
#

can i stack lucky tooth with the revive i get from mirror?

final dune
#

DDs are used before tooth

modest apex
#

ok thanks

celest fox
#

Yeah sadly hourglass isnt that good

#

It's still really good for like say, bonus cast stones

#

Solid option for Styx since anything you buy there will be used up much faster.

sweet brook
#

Hourglass into Elysium is really good for Hera Achilles and hidden shield but for anything else it's kinda mid

celest fox
#

Yeah

#

Mostly big for cast stones and braids

#

Maybe attack jerky too

#

Maybe the move speed Ichor if you got Rush Delivery.

final dune
gray haven
#

In speedruns obviously the healing wouldn't really matter.

final dune
#

stone braid hydra lite jerky

#

those 5 pop up plenty

#

flame wheel release

gray haven
#

Flame Wheel release carry into Styx thanks to Hourglass?

final dune
#

huge

#

no more flame wheels in styx!!!!

#

that eye thing isnโ€™t completely useless

#

of course the greatest use is the 9x ixion

celest fox
# final dune what

Bad phrasing. Hourglass is very good but doesnt lead to the same bs as it can on castpects

#

I meant "yeah it's good but its maybe not as good as I was claiming"

#

Most are still going to take acorn

#

Hourglass can really fix Stygian Soul

hallow oar
vague brook
#

I've tried to play hades with a ps4 controller on steam, but it shows the xbox button prompts instead

#

the button icons have worked for other games on steam such as yakuza 0 and persona 5 royal

#

but it hasen't seemed to work for hades or dead cells

vague brook
#

oh ok my bad

rare sapphire
#

Hi

#

Spoiler alert: I have no trouble reaching ||the phase 2 of Hades but i keep dying at it, any tips on how to beat him?||

dire heath
rare sapphire
#

Mostly the laser, but i just feel like the whole fight escalates quickly that i cant keep up enough to do enough damage before dying

dire heath
#

use a long range weapon that you can spam (my fav is the spear)

rare sapphire
#

Hmmm interesting

#

Thank you ๐Ÿ™

final dune
#

and take no dmg

#

||go right next to him||

#

also spear isnt a long range weapon lol

#

unless maybe if you have extending jab

dire heath
#

you have to pay close attention to his animations, in the 2nd phase ||he has 3 moves of his spear and throws two to three skulls so when these animations are over you hit him a few times and go away from him ||

dire heath
final dune
#

but also bow and rail exist

#

also aspect of cshot is a long range weapon

dire heath
#

i say long bc it's long enough you aren't as hit as if you use sword, shield etc

rare sapphire
sweet brook
#

Yeah

#

Not very reliable tho

#

Better to just hide behind pillars

rare sapphire
#

I see

dire heath
#

is there something else i need to do to trigger ||nyx and chaos reunion? i bought the sigil but nyx still doesn't appear on chaos realm||

next latch
#

eh just keep visiting them

final dune
#

probably another rng event

#

you ||bought the thing for 3142 darkness|| right

dire heath
#

and what about meg? i don't remember if ||she appeard in zag's room and took her stuff but i have done a lot of runs since giving her the sixth nectar || i even beat ||the three furies together ||

rare sapphire
final dune
#

which is why i tagged it with spoiler tags

rare sapphire
#

Iโ€™ve just reached the second dream

#

So im assuming that it is a spoiler

dire heath
#

it's spoiler for character quests

dire heath
final dune
#

itโ€™s all rng

dire heath
#

okay

gentle juniper
#

got a double boon

#

should i fight demeter or artermis

grave hill
#

demeter

#

even tho artemis is way cooler and it sucks to make her mad

#

demeters move in those trial rooms is much more annoying to deal with

#

and arty will forgive u , shes cool like that

next latch
#

artemis is by far the hardest

grave hill
#

rly?

#

i dont do trial rooms very often im no expert

#

i just hate demeters vortex thing

#

i feel like artemis stuff is at least obvious and easy to avoid

#

my least favorite to fight is alhrodite
. her heart always sneaks up on me

gray haven
#

I think Lady Artemis hit me like 3 times in 3 years. tizomg

gentle juniper
#

how the hell do u fish

#

i keep seeing the boobber move

upbeat spoke
#

it needs to sink

#

under the surface

gray haven
#

Press Interact when you see a white flash and the bobber sinks. The other bobs are fake.

#

Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.

Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.

A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.

grave hill
#

it helps to have vibration on the controller

#

or it helps to not focus on the actual fish, look a few inches above, and when its finally time to catch theres a flash that goes upward

#

dont be fooled by the fakeouts

wide zealot
#

Hi guys, I'm new to Hades, I bought it now. Where can I get a build guide? What do you recommend?

hallow oar
sweet brook
#

or here

hallow oar
#

Yep

wide zealot
hallow oar
#

Any time

cobalt wasp
#

What is Hell Mode? Iโ€™m playing the game for the first time and decided to turn it on

eternal warren
#

adds some forced difficulty

#

usually hell mode isn't recommended for first playthrough

#

it just makes things harder when first learning, and you can customise difficulty later on in normal mode anyways

gray haven
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Most players will never make multiple save profiles, and most players who enjoy Hell mode started with it.

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It's designed to be a greater challenge especially early on.

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If you're the kind of player who thinks "Hell mode? Sounds just about right for me!" then it probably is.

hollow grove
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I'm a player with just 1 save file and I agree with nya

modest apex
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when should i start my hell mode savefile attempt ?i beat the game only once

eternal warren
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point taken, makes sense

gray haven
fallen gale
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Does rerolling different "base" rooms change the offering pool? For ex if I reroll an elite boon room, is there a higher chance for an elite X room, or it's 100% random?.

final dune
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random

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don't use fated authority anyways

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persuasion is wayyyyyyy better

fallen gale
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You mean don't re-roll rooms, but re-roll the 3 items offered basically?

next latch
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yeah

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it's much easier to change what rooms are offered anyway

fallen gale
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Didn't even see that prompt tbh โ˜ ๏ธ

next latch
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without FA

silent vessel
fallen gale
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I.. may not have seen the alt mirror.. keep playing?

silent vessel
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Have you talked to Nyx?

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Like... ever?

final dune
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if you have fauth you should have green sides

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thatโ€™s a very early thing

silent vessel
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Well unless you never talk to Nyx ever. She unlocks green sides iirc

final dune
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it happens at 300 darkness

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when you talk to mud

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so a single fauth level is more than that

fallen gale
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Turns out im just blind and didn't see the toggle. Jeez

next latch
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i mean it's not there to start

late igloo
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hola

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i am new

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and i was just wondering (no spoiler please) is this the kinda game where even after i beat it i can keep playing it?

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having a blast so far

hollow musk
late igloo
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or does it get repetitive fast

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i've only done two runs so far, and ||cleared ||||tartarus the second try||, then stopped

hollow musk
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Personally Iโ€™ve been having a bunch of fun with it. But itโ€™s all about how your attention span is

late igloo
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hahaha

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well so far i love it

hollow musk
late igloo
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oh ok thank u lol

hollow musk
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Of course! Enjoy your hades playthrough! Itโ€™s absolutely delightful!!

late igloo
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it is very cool

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it's also interesting seeing the characters and how they look and sound, because i am (slightly) aware of mythology

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very interesting

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its just cool seeing these versions of them, and the interpretations of them in the game

sweet brook
next latch
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another to join speedcord

lapis egret
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Is there a point to โ€œpromotionsโ€ trying not to say to much. Hope that makes sense.

next latch
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?

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you can spoiler

faint umbra
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you can use the #h1-discussion channel or use spoiler tags ||like this|| if you want to talk about spoiler content!

lapis egret
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Iโ€™ll go there

rare sapphire
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Thank you guys for the tips, they helped me beat the game twice

ebon bay
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when do i get the mystery aspect on my weapon i beat the game twice now

ivory wigeon
final dune
ivory wigeon
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O ok

final dune
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there's specific ways to get them

ebon bay
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what is it then

ivory wigeon
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I barely play

ebon bay
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k thx

final dune
# ivory wigeon I barely play

tbh if you aren't sure probably don't answer people's questions, they could have just spent loads of blood on nothing. only answer questions you're decently sure you know the answer to

ivory wigeon
final dune
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well yeaah

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but every single aspect

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that's uh

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24 blood

ivory wigeon
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Like a billion I get it

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Sorry

quiet socket
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hi, i just unlocked the weapon aspects, do you recommend me to focus in 1 weapon for spend my titan blood or divide in some different weapons?

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my limit now is 3rd boss

flint loom
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just like try out all the weapons and put some titans blodd into the ones you like

quiet socket
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i like sword and spear

flint loom
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then try out some spects for that

quiet socket
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but maybe another one is more broken with tthe aspect haha ty

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sword is a good main option for advance ?

flint loom
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in general no weapon is better or worse

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its all just personal preference

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the rail has some good aspects later on but it can be hard to utilize well

quiet socket
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okk thanks, is my second day in the game so i will continue learning every weaponn ๐Ÿ˜„

celest fox
final dune
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weird way to spell HESTIA๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช ๐Ÿ’ช

dusty vault
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There is also a pinned guide by nyaanyaa for titan blood

celest fox
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Yeah

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Hera is also very good as a first unlock if you like bow

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And you can start playing with cast more.

quiet socket
celest fox
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Sword is great really.

final dune
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nemesis

celest fox
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Try Nemesis if you want to do criticals, Poseidon if you want to do casts.

final dune
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poseidon isn't good if you actually like sword

celest fox
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Yeah

final dune
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because poseidon is just using sword to not play sword

celest fox
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It's just a good intro castpect

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And doesnt need a lot of blood

final dune
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hera is like better

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and needs no blood

celest fox
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I agree

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But they like sword not bow

final dune
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and spear

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achilles is a more fun castspect than poseidon

celest fox
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You can still attack with Poseidon

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I agree

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Achilles is like my top spear/top 3

quiet socket
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i love bow, but i always die before with bow xD