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#h1-builds-and-combat
lime jolt
Oh ok
solid sable
mmm yes juicy 20 fps
idle carbon
not arguably 
solid sable
whats new with lernie on em2?
balmy star
go see for yourself 
solid sable
all i seee is just more magma
lime jolt
Exactly
balmy star
yeah
lime jolt
Annoying af
solid sable
and the head can teleport
lime jolt
But pretty free heat without anything else
balmy star
oh i actually never noticed that myself
idle carbon
it actually kinda does
balmy star
wh
lime jolt
Hmm
balmy star
i sense some level of cap within that statement
cunning urchin
Lernie can't teleport.
balmy star
probably your 20fps 
cunning urchin
Some normally very slow enemies move way faster if you have very high FPS.
So, that's not necessarily better lol.
balmy star
w demeter fist, do you start w zeus ks or arty?
idle carbon
20 fps be pretty low tho
cunning urchin
"Thanks for the information. We believe it's possible that very low-speed enemies may have their movement affected by framerate (for a specific reason related to how the engine works). If you have evidence that framerate affects more than just these types of cases, we would be interested in seeing it."
That was their response when somebody from the speedrun server told the devs about it.
idle carbon
does that mean
solid sable
idle carbon
I'm playing on hard mode with vsync on
solid sable
20 fps be pretty low tho
yea its pretty bad
balmy star
w demeter fist, do you start w zeus ks or arty?
?
cursive nest
biggest dmg i had was 2966 in one hit, basic attack
lime jolt
Oof
solid sable
biggest dmg i had was 2966 in one hit, basic attack
rama?
idle carbon
cluster rockets is peak eris
cursive nest
i can share the img i saved lmao, had 3 attack dmg up boons from chaos
cursive nest
solid sable
dang
cursive nest
still big numbers are sick to see
split relic
W T F
split relic
Wut hammers do I take for demeter?
I got choice between breaching cross, rolling knuckle, and heavy knuckle
turbid needle
Breaching Cross is the best of those three.
Otherwise you want something to improve your Special.
I like Explosive Upper the most, there's legitimate schools of thought for Kinetic Launcher being better.
turbid needle
Artemis or Aphrodite.
split relic
If I wanna do me?
turbid needle
For Merciful End you have to take Divine Flourish.
split relic
Ok
turbid needle
ME was nerfed before 1.0 to no longer spawn off Divine Dash, only Divine Strike or Divine Flourish.
honest wing
athena special and athena dash
split relic
Ok
real orchid
Athena special first so you have chances for me
real orchid
Athena keepsake for aspho is pretty much the standard
split relic
Ok
real orchid
If you get really lucky sometimes you can get ME+dash all in tartarus and pick artemis or zeus keepsake but thats rare
split relic
Y dash again fo her?
real orchid
The dash triggers me
real orchid
So you hold attack and spam dash back and forth on top of enemies
split relic
Ok
honest wing
but you need the special to get ME, but your combat strategy is just attack and dash
runic cedar
Doom boons are probably my top fav boon tbh
split relic
Ok
real orchid
Yeah you will pretty much ignore your special the entire rest of the game unless you replace with artemis
split relic
Also does doom only trigger once
honest wing
wait how would curse of vengeance and holy shield together with merciful end and vengeful mood be
split relic
Or can u infinity stack it
honest wing
there is a boon that let's you stack it
called dire misfortune, it's an ares tier 2 boon
real orchid
I just got my first sub 10 with me like half an hour ago it was mad fun
You can stack it with dire
Yeah ^
You want that and impending doom
real orchid
Impending doom is highest priority once you get me+dash though
split relic
I got dash and flourish in the same athena boon
real orchid
Flourish first
honest wing
take flourish
split relic
Ye
Also the exits for my room were
Charon
Eurydice
Pom
Chaos
And erebus
All in one room
No me at end of asphodel
split relic
?
real orchid
Eurydice would help if you picked her from refreshing nectar i guess im late tho
What gods do you have boons from
split relic
I lost 2 dd in lernie yay
real orchid
F
real orchid
One fun fact i learned that helps with forcing ME is as soon as you get any athena boon (preferably flourish) get to four unique gods as fast as possible (obviously take any ares or athena as priority though)
Cause then you have higher chance of getting athena/ares rooms since you will only be offered boons from those four gods for the rest of the run
(Hermes doesnt count)
honest wing
yes
opal lodge
wait how would curse of vengeance and holy shield together with merciful end and...
so people in the speedrunning discord have looked into this
vengeance boons are activated in the order that you obtain them
honest wing
ooooh
opal lodge
so ME + vengeful mood would only work if you obtained curse of vengeance before holy shield
slim lynx
they don't just go off at once?
turbid needle
Well, with Divine Dash you could still very easily trigger those Dooms all the same.
Wouldn't be quite as cheesy with the proper order, I suppose.
slim lynx
i could see merciful end in a vengeance build for maximum damage
making the most of what you have 
honest wing
do I take merciful end or divine dash if I have the attack and special
valid dagger
Merciful End first
honest wing
lost all three DDs by asphodel this is what I get for taking high confidence in a build where I'm not really confident
should I sell divine flrousih
valid dagger
Did you get Divine Dash
If not then I would keep it so you have a better chance for Divine Dash at your next Athena boon, if you sell it now it'll probably get offered again, I usually dont sell Flourish at all
valid dagger
-Poseidon Flare + Artemis --> Mirage
-Dio Flare + Zeus --> Sci
-Aphro flare + Demeter --> Rav will + Snow Burst, depending on your run/heat you might be able to grab Zeus Call + Smoldering Air
With Dio use Stygian, and try to get Chaos casts, they are more crucial with Stygian, Chaos casts are just good so getting them with all the builds I mentioned is great anyway, they just dont rely on it as much since you have Infernal and can get away with it
boreal prism
alright I'm gonna try the dio build then
thinking of building curse of nausea because that's the only dio duo I'm missing
the synergy isn't super strong but the heat is low
but that's tomorrow me's problem
light pine
|| Has she been in Zag's room twice? ||
valid prism
You should probably ask on #h1-story-discussion or #h1-for-new-players
solid sable
|| Has she been in Zag's room twice? ||
no
light pine
Ah, she has to have been there and I think that's just random
And this isn't the channel for that so
turbid needle
forgive me if this is a common build but I usually don't care too much about these things
but I did a Chiron + Dionysus on special build and that was almost too easy
should probably keep piling on the special damage for that, it was fast too
slim lynx
is heartbreak flourish on gilga worthwhile?
boreal prism
I just ran heartbreak flourish on gilga
It's good and if you get synergies it becomes great
slim lynx
specifically for the weak
since it makes the enemy deal 30% less damage now you have zero reason not to use maim
boreal prism
Yepp
And you can use that one boon to deal extra damage to weak enemies and you're basically encouraged to maim
boreal prism
Gilga + rending claws + deadly strike + heartbreak flourish + heart rend
You crit your maimed weakened enemies? Big big damage
slim lynx
just the raw damage increase seems fun enough
boreal prism
And then you can get hunters mark and then your maim itself can crit
jovial fulcrum
that was the strangest Asphodel I've ever had.
Sell common Zooz attack
Take rose to get rare aphro attack
take ambrosia at Eurydice to get epic aphro attack
buy zooz in end shop and get offered a trade for Heroic attack
is this what stonks feels like
boreal prism
Lmao. Uno reverse card
jovial fulcrum
f
lost a sweet hera run to a blue screen
unique shale
If I'm to do a fresh file finish, what should I focus on? Other than not getting hit?
Is the God pool for the first run always the same?
cunning urchin
It is. First run, get Divine Flourish > Curse of Agony > Merciful End > Divine Dash.
unique shale
Thanks!
slim lynx
pressure points stonks
unique shale
Arty appears in the first run? 
proud jackal
I'm a bit confused about the Rama bow. I tried it twice - the first time I tried to use the shared suffering mechanic as much as posible, by getting it on most of the enemies then doing big shots. That run didn't go well at all though. Then I tried again, but Dionysis on Special and just spammed special to stack hangover - that run went waayy better. So, is the shared suffering on Rama actually good and it just didn't click with me or is spamming the special just better?
jovial fulcrum
its really good
at max its 60%
You also really have to focus on Dash Strikes with Rama.
Any bow really, but with Rama the faster charge time of dash strikes is especially important
Rama also really really wants Hammers. It's good without hammers, but there's a handful of hammers that put it over the top
proven osprey
The shared suffering is the real strength of the aspect
It's harder to play than spamming special though
proud jackal
Thanks! I have just unlocked it, no more Titan Blood invested, so maybe that's why it felt underwhelming. I kinda suck at Dash-Striking, but I'll try that. Twin shot seems like a decent hammer? In my bad run I had sniper shot (which I could never get of because tge charge up was so long that the enemies closed the gap in the meantime) and the better Power shot - but even with that, I found the Power shot harder to execute than on the normal bow
valid prism
Spamming the special equals having the rail with a delta chamber + bouncing fire hammer so it's fine with boons that work by applying effects or stacking effects
proven osprey
Twin shot triple shot / you want deadly strike and hunter dash
valid prism
On higher temperature tho, people will use the full ability of Rama
hollow wraith
Need a cool spear build for 16 heat. I could probably beat it with crystal beam but want something new. I tried hunting blades but it was a little underwhelming
valid dagger
Zeus flurry
valid prism
? Unless you use Achilles aspect, cast builds are not optimal on spear
magic rivet
Charged Skewer and Guan Yu
hollow wraith
does the hangover slow boon stack with chill, that would be pretty op 70% slower enemies
hollow wraith
noice
Damnit tried for two runs to find the poseidon demeter duo boon and didn't get it. It's last one I need for the prophecy
hollow wraith
that's what I tried but no luck
honest wing
not only dem attack any other dem core boon works
chrome girder
You also really have to focus on Dash Strikes with Rama.
How to dash strike?
Dash then attack
?
It speeds up the charge?
jovial fulcrum
Dash, then attack while you're dashing still.
it makes the charge on the significantly faster
lost swan
so i finally unlocked the hidden aspect of the fists but lik... trying them out.. i dont get it? how is this aspect useful? it's like areas boons but worse
strange lark
so i finally unlocked the hidden aspect of the fists but lik... trying them out....
its not
clever barn
yup
mild raft
so i finally unlocked the hidden aspect of the fists but lik... trying them out....
You can use it for dash only runs
that's it
hearty elbow
Sea storm splash dash also nice.
idle carbon
maim needs a slight boost for gilga to be viable
strange lark
maim needs a slight boost for gilga to be viable
there is a hammer upgrade for that
strange lark
oh
idle carbon
imo
proven osprey
it should be something like +10%
hearty elbow
50% on gilga is kinda overkill
I have no idea but it would be hilarious if that 50% is coded as multiplicative. Beo's 10% is additive, and therefore doesn't ever matter
strange lark
what is the best build of rail gun aspect of lucifer
zeus is great on lucifer
strange lark
normal
turbid needle
do u know anything about seeded runs
or how to doit
Attack laser runs with Artemis or Aphrodite are super fun but honestly not top tier.
turbid needle
Attack laser runs with Artemis or Aphrodite are *super* fun but honestly not top...
ok
I got it to work a few times on 32 Heat but generally speaking it's not worth it unless you want the meme.
haha
idle carbon
use zeus special on lucifer
turbid needle
I absolutely want the meme, I want my Prothean Particle Rifle and Tactical Cloak (Hades' Aid), but it takes a LOT to line up correctly.
Wait, really?
idle carbon
bombs explode by themselves
idle carbon
when enemies get near them
turbid needle
bombs explode by themselves
yes
Reeaaallllyyyyy? Hm.
I see how, that's just an interesting paradigm change.
strange lark
yeah they do
idle carbon
I have no idea but it would be hilarious if that 50% is coded as multiplicative....
I'll test this, prolly additive
turbid needle
Yeah, the lightning bolt summoned on the pulse would detonate the ball.
if u dash through them by athena dash they denote
Well, that always happens.
But normally triggering them requires just that extra bit of effort.
idle carbon
triple bomb zeus special lucifer is very fun
turbid needle
Not scaling the Hellfire itself without a % boon, though.
turbid needle
triple bomb zeus special lucifer is very fun
i have tried this one and completed run through it
once*
i will try a full zeus build lets see the outcome
see u after run
jovial fulcrum
lucifer confounds me
mobbing is nearly effortless with it, and then i get to a boss and get destroyed
dusky drum
lol the only reason i can see taking a high % attack on luci is if you get the damage ramp hammer
jovial fulcrum
does the damage not ramp naturally? i thought it did
idle carbon
ramps x2 faster with the hammer
jovial fulcrum
i c
misty sun
What's a good build for the bow, as I've been wanting to try it out?
lime jolt
just normal zag bow?
dusky drum
which one
generally attack is good with aphrodite or artemis, special is good with some sort of status and or zeus/ares
dash can be athena or artemis
lime jolt
dusky drum
and hammers are better with triple/twin + point blank unless its chiron
lime jolt
this might be helpful
dusky drum
Either Zag or Chiron(as that's all the blood I have atm)
ahh ok for zag you can go either aphrodite or artemis attack, choice comes down to do you want more crits or fewer but more powerful crits. special is good with ares or zeus and if youre running aphrodite on attack you can get an easy ps(privileged status) setup. dash can be athena or artemis and good hammers would be twin/triple + pointblank
for chiron attack can be set for more so a status like aphrodite or demeter and special can work with posiedon(try to get sea storm), ares(dire misfortune + impending doom), dionysus(curse of nausea, low tolerance, splitting headache are all good duos), demeter can be decent with arctic blast, a heart rend setup with arte on special can also be really good. dash again can be either athena or artemis, and hammers would be relentless + concentrated volley (or whatever the + damage per consecutive shot hammer is i forget the name)
those are all the good builds ive done with it :3
tbh chiron has more variety compared to zag and i like chiron more than zag bow
misty sun
So, Poseidon is offeringegebdary catch as my 1st boon.
What/How?
lime jolt
It’s scripted
misty sun
What's the trigger, then?
lime jolt
Iirc the fishing rod
static karma
I have a choice between triple shot, point blank shot, and flurry shot in first chamber, aphro start. Which is best?
For zag bow
proven osprey
flurry is good dps and easy to use
triple is a bit risky, shotgun style
point blank is decent too I'd say
static karma
if there was a situation where triple, point blank, and an irrelevant special hammer was the choice, which is better, triple or point blank
just in case flurry isn't in the choices for one time
proven osprey
Triple is better on paper but it requires good gameplay
hearty elbow
Triple isn't that much riskier than Point Blank honestly
Triple also gives you some random AoE
I mean it's riskier for me but I'm a greedlord and my lizard brain demands shotguns
toxic river
turbid needle
whats ur main dmg source
split relic
What hammer do I take on demeter?
opal lodge
S tier is breaching cross
A++ is explosive upper
kinetic launcher, long knuckle both A tier depending on personal pref
split relic
Ok
opal lodge
everything else doesnt matter
hearty elbow
At some arbitrary high heat threshold I put Long Knuckle at S+
opal vortex
Sometimes this game is so frustrating... I use ares and athena keepsake and take every opportunity to get ME and I still don't get it by styx, AND no athena/ares is offered in styx? Dafaq
Still got my fastest time by far just by trying to "go fast" though. Is 15 minutes decent?
turbid needle
Yeah, 15 minutes is quite fast.
opal vortex
Nice
Not sure what was so great about my build. Like I said I just made an effort to "go fast"
Can bouldy be given ambrosia?
vagrant maple
the way this game rolls for duos is it first checks to see if you get a duo boon in a given slot, then chooses a random duo you are eligible for if so
lime jolt
Might want to switch to battie for speedrunning
vagrant maple
so if you want to increase your odds of getting ME, try to avoid getting the requirements for other duos involving ares/athena if possible
opal vortex
I find that hard to aim...
vagrant maple
bouldy cannot be gifted ambrosia
opal vortex
so if you want to increase your odds of getting ME, try to avoid getting the req...
I guess I could do that... I just tend to get Ares attack and Athena special ASAP and fill in the other main boons ASAP and hope that's enough
opal vortex
I am not exactly looking to speedrun, but it would be nice to use FO2+ comfortably. I usually don't even have FO1 turned on...
I'll watch that video though, thanks!
cunning urchin
FO2 is just a lot of practice.
The difference between FO1 and FO2 for speedruns is minor.
opal vortex
The difference between FO1 and FO2 for speedruns is minor.
good to know!
It's funny how taking damage is just nbd for speedrunners. lol
Sometimes I feel that way during dad fight if I am wiping the floor with him but before that I still try to take no dmg as much as possible
cunning urchin
Depends. Taking damage disables High Confidence.
Hitstun when taking damage also just slows you down every time.
opal vortex
fair enough
I'll never be good enough to purposefully take damage for the sake of going fast unless it's during dad fight and that's ok with me
if Meg does less dmg (2500) why is she faster?
Than does 3500, right?
turbid needle
Meg hits much faster.
Than puts the big circle on the field and it takes several seconds for it to go off.
opal vortex
So it's faster for speedrunning if those couple seconds actually makes a difference in your run then?
vagrant maple
usually than damage is just overkill, so the extra time it takes isn't worth it -- usually meg is used to strip the armor of minibosses, which it already does enough damage to do. Delaying that armor strip basically means any attacks you put in while waiting get wasted
and it is sufficient damage vs bosses that by the time than would go off, meg + your build should phase a boss as well
opal vortex
I don't know if I am at the point where I am that good for it to actually make a difference. It's not like I am instantly melting the bosses after their armor is taken away anyway. I appreciate the info though and I'll at least give it another try
vagrant maple
it definitely isn't a massive time save
probably ~10-15s over a run
so not a huge deal
opal vortex
Maybe if I played with a controller I'd be good enough Q.Q
ME isn't worth it on Hades spear, is it?
lime jolt
It is
lime jolt
Nothing 
cunning urchin
I guess I could do that... I just tend to get Ares attack and Athena special ASA...
Having priority slots open and only being eligible for the one Duo you want gives you better odds than having no priority slots open and being eligible for other Duo Boons or legendaries as well.
If you're looking for a specific Duo Boon.
Assuming you want ME, for a normal boon reward:
all priority slots filled + requirements for 2 Duo Boons = 37% chance to get ME
any priority slots open + requirements only for ME = 39% chance to get ME
all priority slots filled + requirements only for ME = 53% chance to get ME
Unlocking multiple Duo Boons or legendaries is good if they all give you something you want and bad if you're looking for something specific.
frail schooner
what weapon is the worst ME weapon?
maybe rama
or hera bow
actually if you load phalanx shot into hera bow does it instantly go off
opal lodge
yeah
arthur is pretty bad for it
rama you can put it on special and use divine dash to proc
frail schooner
arthur dash strikes are pretty fast
opal vortex
Assuming you want ME, for a normal boon reward:
all priority slots filled + req...
Wow, thanks! Do you know the % chance if you have 3 duo boons unlocked?
I just tried to "go fast" with eris and got 16:30. Kinda weird that I got 15:00 with Hades spear when everyone says Eris is the best. Maybe I suck with ranged weapons. But it's still a lot better than me playing "normal" and getting 25-35 minutes
opal lodge
arthur dash strikes are pretty fast
is this a joke
lime jolt
Excuse me
opal vortex
is there anywhere I can see the frequency of how often a weapon aspect is chosen? Just to get a general sense of which is "best"?
cunning urchin
Not exactly. There's a weapon index on the high heat leaderboard.
idle carbon
arthur dash strikes are pretty fast
no x:
opal vortex
where's the high heat leaderboard
idle carbon
second pin in high heat strategies
lime jolt
Nah the mods have said that they don’t want to have a specific way to play the game, and that makes sense
They have said that i can direct people to the link whenever it is appropriate, so thats cool
honest wing
does the zag aspect on shield make charged shot do more damage
if you get the hammer
coz ik it doesn't affect the regular bull rush
lime jolt
does the zag aspect on shield make charged shot do more damage
It does iirc
split relic
Oh mb
solid sable
does anyone know how to do routed runs
honest wing
got natural artemis and poseidon in tartarus in an eris run
what do I take for asphodel now? pom blossom?
or hades call
coz my pom blossom is level 1
limber cloak
does anyone know how to do routed runs
check the #routed channel in the speedrunning discord
solid sable
check the #routed channel in the speedrunning discord
speedrunning discord? send link
honest wing
took epic +3 dashes instead of common rush delivery
limber cloak
you'll have to downpatch to an older version of the game
limber cloak
took epic +3 dashes instead of common rush delivery
thats a fair decision tbh, depending on weapon
solid sable
Thanks
honest wing
thats a fair decision tbh, depending on weapon
I had poseidon dash
limber cloak
yeah
solid sable
you'll have to downpatch to an older version of the game
Huh.
limber cloak
theres no route for the current version except for the max heat one
iirc
satan has a readme and save file of his former WR nemesis route on speedrun.com/hades, in the resources section
if you wanna go through that
honest wing
just the line "satan has a readme", out of context, beautiful
solid sable
just the line "satan has a readme", out of context, beautiful
his T&C must be quite long
honest wing
Lmaooooo
solid sable
just killed the sneak within 4 seconds of entering the chamber
2-shotting lernie heads 
boreal prism
+3 dashes and tidal dash turns you into a monster
boreal prism
Em2 becomes a breez
solid sable
<@!393392155089043457> are you running the route?
normal play, maybe i'll try later bc not interested in doing the patch rn
solid sable
wot da hek
i beat dad
but i come bacckc after dying to naturla causes
and hes not in his chair
what??
hollow wraith
damn the poseidon demeter duo boon is actualy pretty powerful (in addition to the other 2 duo boons I found right at end in styx). Clunky but I was doing loads of damage to em4 hades, shame I only had one revive by time I reached him, I had him so close to beat.
proven osprey
Happens Kaly
solid sable
Happens Kaly
i think its a story thing? bc i got the dialogue to enter private chambers
proven osprey
Might be then yeah
real remnant
hi all
any interesting, non standard yet competitive speed run builds?
I'm tired of doing zeus/poseidon with gun and spear
and ares/athena with sword/fists
valid dagger
Tried Dionysis Flare with Beowulf maybe? It's the standard for speedruning Beowulf tho, not out of the ordinary
solid sable
Tried Dionysis Flare with Beowulf maybe? It's the standard for speedruning Beowu...
poseidon's cast is also good with beowulf
slim lynx
are flurry jab + serrated point good together?
vagrant maple
Better than serrated on its own. Worse than flurry on its own I would say
slim lynx
ok but is it worth having both?
i could probably check this out right now since i can just install codex menu and give myself both hammers but ... i can't be bothered to 😔
vagrant maple
any interesting, non standard yet competitive speed run builds?
Athena cast Poseidon sword is very fun, unique, and can go very fast
If you already have serrated, flurry is good to grab
If you have flurry, you dont really need any more hammers
slim lynx
i imagine it would feel really janky to use
you can't cancel dash-strike with serrated
vagrant maple
Yeah it feels mostly just like a slightly better version of serrated. Doesn't really feel like flurry
vagrant maple
Athena cast Poseidon sword is very fun, unique, and can go very fast
It is the recent meta for pos sword, but only as of a month or two ago
slim lynx
how exactly does lightning phalanx work better than just lightning shot?
is it simply for the higher base damage?
vagrant maple
it does way more damage
strange lark
lightning phalanx just does more damage
vagrant maple
after a bunch of poms athena cast does almost twice as much damage as zeus cast
because it has higher base + better pom scaling
jovial fulcrum
why does my computer suck so much 
second time in two days I've lost a run to crashes
vagrant maple
zeus cast is also viable though -- it was the meta until athena cast took over, and can put down great times
valid dagger
poseidon's cast is also good with beowulf
Yea it is but he asked for Speedrunning, Poseidon Flare is less common for speedrunning Beo
strange lark
or maybe check #h1-tech-fixes first
jovial fulcrum
<#520430049003044864>
not a game issue, computer issue
vagrant maple
after the dio flare nerf pos flare is about as good (maybe even better!) for speedruns I think
strange lark
also how do you know that it is your computer?
jovial fulcrum
my pc throws page in unpaged errors sometimes and i just dunno why
because its a blue screen crash
jovial fulcrum
I got new ram during the holidays, since bad ram is usually the cause of the error i get, but it hasn't helped
strange lark
maybe your pc is just old
jovial fulcrum
It was a decent posiden build too
opal vortex
does taking added dash-strike damage from chaos reduce or eliminate the chance you can get it again on the same run?
strange lark
does taking added dash-strike damage from chaos reduce or eliminate the chance y...
each run has a set seed, which means that taking chaos doesnt change the amount of chaos gates you get
vagrant maple
does taking added dash-strike damage from chaos reduce or eliminate the chance y...
no
jovial fulcrum
mfw 3 years is old for a pc
strange lark
mfw 3 years is old for a pc <:pepehands:818856719198584832>
i said maybe
slim lynx
this also applies to other chaos boons
most prominently being grasp/shot i believe
some cast builds i see always have like 2 or 3 of one or the other lol
if only i was that lucky though 😔
strange lark
some cast builds i see always have like 2 or 3 of one or the other lol
just take bone hourglass and try to get as many casts from the well of charon as you can
slim lynx
i tend to avoid using bone hourglass since it means that i have to find a well or it's utterly useless
jovial fulcrum
i usually only grab hourglass if there's something in the between biome well that I want
if you're just taking a raw hourglass in, you're asking for trouble i think
jovial fulcrum
lol yeah, that too
vagrant maple
often on beowulf I will take bone hourglass in elysium
then you get to buy things from the mid biome well -> almost always a well in elysium -> then another in the pre styx midbiome well
then you can switch to a different keepsake if you need one of them
if you have a roll, that's 4 total looks at cast items, which will almost always give something juicy
vagrant maple
yeah it can get pretty out of control
strange lark
people tend to underestimate the power of the well of charon
vagrant maple
it's really really good for cast weapons
hourglass is fringe at most if you aren't using your cast much
proven osprey
hourglass cringe
limber cloak
hourglass with jerky in mid-biome well with eris 👌
then you get cluster rockets first elysium chamber
vagrant maple
yeah there are some exceptions like that
cluster rockets + jerky is v nice
especially with artemis on special
opal vortex
i tend to avoid using bone hourglass since it means that i have to find a well o...
When I was newer to Hades I liked taking hourglass for Elysium. It helps throughout Elysium, and if you use it before going into styx and get a 2sack you can have bonuses going into dad fight
hollow wraith
does the chaos shot upgrade affect crystal beam damage
vagrant maple
yes
hollow wraith
cool
peak fiber
What boons work well with the aspect of rama?
strange lark
What boons work well with the aspect of rama?
artemis attack or aphro attack
ares special, zeus special, aphro special combined with artemis attack, and dio special
peak fiber
Oh ok fhanks
strange lark
athena cast works well also
peak fiber
Huh
solid sable
Breh
im this close
to maxing out megaera affinity
doing suicide runs just for this
and she wont show up in the damn lounge
split relic
Ye
jovial fulcrum
Gosh, I dunno why I even bother trying with sword besides Nem.
I can't seems to do well with the other three, no matter what I try to do
slim lynx
zag sword is a meme
arthur apparently works well on a backstab build, and guess what kind of build poseidon sword works best in
jovial fulcrum
yeah i got rekt with a posiden run right before i posted that
honest wing
if you don't get exit wounds pos sword just isn't fun
jovial fulcrum
yeah it flurry cast you need to make it fun
cunning urchin
You can kill most things with your Cast alone, the dislodge only actually matters for bosses.
balmy portal
pos sword is fun with a duo'ed up trippy shot 😛
never get close. Kill everything.
duo it with demeter for frost stacking damage shenanigans
or zeus for zappyzaps
...I particularly like demeter for duoing with trippy shot because then I get to ignore terrain entirely
split relic
Which hammer do I want
I got a choice between rush kick
Flying cutter
And heavy knuckle
For demeter
cunning urchin
Hmm. Rush Kick or Flying Cutter are both quite alright.
cunning urchin
Flying Cutter charges very fast, and you don't need to charge it from up close.
cunning urchin
Heavy Knuckle does good damage and helps % Attack boons a lot, which are otherwise worse than the flat Attack boons, but you build your Gigacutter more slowly.
balmy portal
I'd personally avoid heavy knuckle for demeter
cunning urchin
Worse in DPS than the flat Attack boons, that is.
balmy portal
but it's not bad, just doesn't work as well with gigacutter
cunning urchin
Because the flat ones all do much better damage to crowds.
split relic
I'm angy
strange lark
oh no
strange lark
on what weapon
strange lark
same
split relic
But I ended up with 16:12
valid dagger
Any nice chiron builds?
Aphro Attack Artemis Special Heartrend is a popular one
split relic
Ok
valid dagger
You also have Aphro Attack Dionysis Special --> Low Tolerance and
Poseidon Special and try to get Sea Storm
jovial fulcrum
Zeus Special is also a bit of a sleeper. No specific duo to go with it, but its just generically good
Aphro/Dio for Low Tol Chiron is my personal favorite though
uneven jacinth
new player dont spoil but any good build with varatha?
I have aspect of achilles unlocked
uneven jacinth
Oof I always forget to cast and keep spamming lol
should I unlock the Hades aspect when I have enough?
jovial fulcrum
If you just like spamming attack, probably
split relic
Well I'm in love
Chiron is SO COOL
At least I can kill things
I didn't think it would much to bosses but wow
uneven jacinth
If you just like spamming attack, probably
but spin is useless and leaves me unable to dodge tho
uneven jacinth
oof ok lol
jovial fulcrum
you can also get Explosive Launcher w/ Hades Spear and spam that
uneven jacinth
wtf how
jovial fulcrum
Explosive Launcher removes the recall option from the special, so you can just throw over and over
uneven jacinth
Explosive Launcher removes the recall option from the special, so you can just t...
But my thor attack...
jovial fulcrum
150% more damage is v good yeah
jovial fulcrum
Explosive + Charged
Build your own GY, but without the hp debuff
jovial fulcrum
GY is an aspect you get later for Spear, but its kind of spoilery
real crest
just beat game a lot with best weapon
fervent elbow
Stockpile gold, go to Styx and hope Charon he'll have titan blood
uneven jacinth
me when Im in fire place thing
jovial fulcrum
Eventually you unlock the option to play with modifiers, which allows you to get boss lot again
steep oasis
Hey quick question regarding aspect of zeus and empowering flight
Does the blitz disc allow me to constantly have +80%? Provided it constantly hits ofc
Or is it a one time thing?
opal vortex
Isn't the spear one of the most difficult weapons to get fast clears on?
https://imgur.com/2r4iTl9 I have no idea how I got 15 minutes on the first run I tried to go fast which happened to be spear, but now I seem to be stuck at 16:30
This was zag fist. Had +44% to dash-strike dmg from chaos too
opal vortex
how do I farm titan blood pls lol
If you get a perfect catch on a sturgeon you get a titanblood
opal vortex
Does "marked" count for activating privileged status?
valid dagger
Artemis Mark?
lime jolt
yes but its stupid
opal vortex
it was the only thing letting me activate privileged status on that last run so I guess I am thankful for it
Just didn't get the gods I needed...
opal vortex
Does mirage shot increase damage done with Hera loaded shot?
lime jolt
yep
boreal prism
Why would it be stupid that artemis's status effect activates privileged status
Pretty much every negative effect does
lime jolt
No it’s stupid for activating it
I never said that it didn’t
Its stupid to use it for activating PS
opal vortex
How is it bad to activate PS?
boreal prism
Oh I see what you mean
If you're using PS you would rather be using a more reliable effect combination
slim lynx
Isn't the spear one of the most difficult weapons to get fast clears on?
flurry jab + tidal dash + deadly strike seems to be the way to go
lightning strike also works apparently since that's how i got my 10:53 with it but deadly strike is probs better, i just wasn't able to get it that run
near schooner
I have athena cast, empowered by the athena/zeus duo. If I swap out that cast for Poseidon, does the duo still apply?
cunning urchin
No.
boreal prism
I wish stuff worked like that, that would be cool
Anyway what's good with lightning rod? I have trouble imagining a build where it's any good
Arte cast or somethin??
cunning urchin
Lightning Rod is never the core of your build, but it's always a good pick in any Cast build.
slim lynx
it's nice but you probably shouldn't ever prioritize it
i could be giving it less credit where it's due but it doesn't add a lot of damage
boreal prism
Ah I see..
dusky drum
(then you decide to take it but forget you got greater recall ;w;)
boreal prism
But let's say hypothetically I had a prophecy that involved getting lightning rod... what would I do then
dusky drum
id say do a non lodging cast
and once it drops just dont pick it up
thats really about it
its nice damage but not something to really focus a run around
boreal prism
Alright thanx
cunning urchin
i could be giving it less credit where it's due but it doesn't add a lot of dama...
It's probably about equal to Jolted on average?
hearty elbow
Lightning Rod is never the core of your build, but it's always a good pick in an...
I've strongly considered forcing Lightning Rod on Eris for EM4 lol
cunning urchin
And it can also apply Jolted itself.
hearty elbow
I took Athena into Asphodel that attempt and died anyway so yeah.
cunning urchin
#1 thing to get more DPS in a lot of runs is to just add more damage sources to your natural rotation.
And Lightning Rod does that in Cast builds.
And then of course there's global damage modifiers and Cast modifiers. But global damage mods also all apply to Lightning Rod.
cunning urchin
I've strongly considered forcing Lightning Rod on Eris for EM4 lol
It sounds safe. You have more experience with EM4 than me. I think I'd prioritize Smoldering Air over Lightning Rod, though. But then again, Eris builds God Gauge incredibly fast anyway.
hearty elbow
Lightning Rod is also a bad smoldering air on Eris. It hits so often.
hearty elbow
I think it's less terrible than it sounds. I just die so fast when I'm trying to fight dad directly on Eris lol. You're never able to just outrange him, and you don't have iframes
Unless you stop attacking but then what are you doing lol
cunning urchin
Unless you stop attacking but then what are you doing lol
Not dying so fast.
stone escarp
is it just me or is em4 not that bad
like, I know some people really can't stop b*tching about how they can't see, but is it really that bad??
like, if you're intimately familiar with the fight you don't need to see to dodge
the dash button is a god of its own
oh I came here during a discussion that was already about em4 and I didn't notice haha
cunning urchin
ledgerdamayn and myself were talking about EM4 in a high heat context.
stone escarp
oh yeah on high heat it's not worth it
cunning urchin
If it's just EM4 and nothing else, it's fine.
stone escarp
I did FO2 EM4 DC2 HL5 CP2 once
cunning urchin
EM4 FO2 is another story. And then add other pacts on top of that . . .
stone escarp
for the "max hades crystal meme" attempt yeahhhhh
it was a close call by like 1 i-frame
uneven jacinth
what is em4
stone escarp
take the final boss and make it extremely hard(^2)
cunning urchin
Extreme Measures 4.
worldly aspen
hey guys apologies if this isnt the right place for this kind of question, but i am trying to get better at the final boss fight and i feel like i just cannot progress to the next heat level
most of my weapons are at 3/4 heat and i always get stuck at hades and cant get further
and im not rly sure how to improve ;-;
valid prism
Ok, tell us what your average run looks like: Keepsake? Build plan? Pact you use?
worldly aspen
for sure! so when i go into hades i always have the lucky tooth regardless of what keepsake i take at the beginning, but i usually like the feather duster or skull earring to start with. tbh I don't really go in with a plan for my build, I just take what looks interesting...but my last run I used the nemesis blade and had an ares/poseidon/athena build. for pact i went with hard labor, jury summons, and calisthenics program all first rank. those are the ones ill usually go for, sometimes ill take convenience fee
usually when i have plans for a build its rly only limited to aiming for athena/poseidon dash, curse of agony or deathly strike for attack, and phalanx shot for cast
worldly aspen
ok, i’ll try acorn next time
would i just take an extra rank in hard labor or jury summons then?
tacit glade
Arthur aspect + Artemis boons is literally some of the most insane stuff I’ve seen in awhile
worldly aspen
ooo
i feel like i don’t rly understand arthur aspect to be able to use it properly
tacit glade
i feel like i don’t rly understand arthur aspect to be able to use it properly
I don’t either! But big number in short time make monke brain happy
opal vortex
ok, i’ll try acorn next time
acorn is definitely better if you're struggling with Hades. You say you're stuck at 3-4 heat?
worldly aspen
acorn is definitely better if you're struggling with Hades. You say you're stuck...
yeah, i can get through the first three bosses without much issue but for some reason when i get to hades it just never works out
like my last run tonight i went in with three death defiance and lucky tooth and i still lost
and i can’t tell if it’s bc i’m being sloppy or what bc i feel like i am pretty familiar with his fight patterns
opal vortex
EM2 and TD2 gives you like 6 heat and doesn't increase Hades fight difficulty
but honestly I'd put FO1 on to make clearing rooms faster
worldly aspen
gives as in it will let me increase my heat levels?
or it’s 6 heat combined?
and true, i don’t use tight deadline as much as i probably should lol given how forgiving TD1 is
thanks for the advice though! that is helpful
opal vortex
gives as in it will let me increase my heat levels?
As far as I know if you play on 9 heat and you're only on heat 4 it'll give you the heat 4 rewards. If you complete the run and do 9 heat again it'll give you heat 5 rewards and so on and so forth
I've been working my way up the heat 1 at a time too. But after heat 5 or 6 it becomes easier to just do heat 9 instead of heat 7 IMO
cunning urchin
I learned how do max TD relatively early and then just did all my bounties with FO2 TD2, back when TD worked a bit differently and 2 was max.
opal vortex
FO, EM2, TD2 is very comfortable for me
worldly aspen
haha i have only tried EM2 once and it was kind of a nightmare
cunning urchin
I'd say you should be able to do TD2 very comfortably in every run.
worldly aspen
i can handle EM1 okay though
opal vortex
EM2 lernie aint that bad. Just kick his butt ASAP
worldly aspen
okay, i guess i’ll just have to practice more and get used to it
opal vortex
dont even worry about taking dmg. Even losing a DD isn't the end of the world
cunning urchin
But there are players who don't enjoy that and do all their bounties and later 32 Heat without TD. That's perfectly fine, too. The pact is very flexible, and you can make a whole lot of playstyles and builds work.
worldly aspen
okay!
opal vortex
Losing all 3 DD can still be saved if you find patty in Elysium
worldly aspen
i do like TD ive done TD1 and even TD2 without much issue as long as i don’t dilly dally lol
i just want enough heat to go through an erebus gate
opal vortex
You can pause it to decide which rooms to go in
cunning urchin
Ultimately, the most important thing for going up in Heat is just practice.
Perseverance and sometimes a bit of luck.
worldly aspen
yeah, that is what i’ve come to learn haha
i do like that the game is at least forgiving with builds like it’s hard to have a bad build
but at the same time my instinct is to want to go in with some kind of strategy when you don’t necessarily have to have one to do well
all of the advice has been really helpful though! i’ll give it a try and see if i have any luck
i’m intrigued by using acorn with hades ill have to try it
cunning urchin
Strategy can do a lot. I think when I was still most competitive in high heat, the reason I was keeping up with top players who were better in execution was just having better strategies for my builds and stuff.
I like to dive deep into build theory and figure out cheap strategies that can carry you.
slim lynx
leave it to her to tell convince you that aphrodite is the superior goddess
cunning urchin
Nowadays, all the top players have an excellent understanding of builds and the meta is very developed, so it's much easier to pick up strong builds just from looking at like the top 10 runs of any aspect on the speedrun leaderboard, for example.
One look at their victory screen and what keepsakes they used in Tartarus and Asphodel can tell you a lot.
cunning urchin
i’m intrigued by using acorn with hades ill have to try it
Acorn is definitely the #1 tank keepsake vs Hades. That's something we figured out very early in Early Access when we really started pushing high heat.
And the gap grows larger when you add HL.
100 HP from Lucky Tooth isn't much when his sweep does 80.
But Acorn can tank 5 of them.
worldly aspen
that’s true, i think i just don’t trust myself enough to let those 5 hits stretch out
but i think that will come with practice
opal vortex
"stretch out"?
You literally can get hit more times with acorn. Trust us. I used tooth at first too. It's a trap for beginners
cunning urchin
Even if you lose your Acorn early in the fight, you still negated all of that damage.
worldly aspen
okay
worldly aspen
"stretch out"?
yeah i meant to say i don’t want to lose the protection of the acorn early on
cunning urchin
Lucky Tooth is great when normal or miniboss encounters are dangerous. But for boss fights, Acorn wins.
opal vortex
omg I just realized plume adds a bunch of damage if you have rushed delivery LOL
cunning urchin
EM4 changes that.
opal vortex
What do you need for EM4?
worldly aspen
lol, i’m just gonna focus on getting good at em2 for now
opal vortex
it was actually only a couple seconds and it was kinda spoiler-y so I didn't rewatch it but I hope they had FO2 on because he was fast as heeelllll
cunning urchin
What do you need for EM4?
Retrash — 03/31/2021
low damage high health > spearpoint, very high damage > acorn, else > tooth
cunning urchin
leave it to her to tell convince you that aphrodite is the superior goddess
Lady Aphrodite is superior in every way. 💕
worldly aspen
haha
tbh i think it will just have to come with time
i see the ppl in here who have rly amazing clear times and rly nutty builds but i’m sure a lot of them have ben playing for ages or even in early access
opal vortex
If you never get past heat 5 it's nbd anyway my dude
cunning urchin
There's also selection bias.
worldly aspen
true
opal vortex
I still have not played Dead Cells... Salt & Sanctuary... Factorio... Plenty of games to play once I am done with Hades.
cunning urchin
People post their best runs, and you mostly only see the ones that were successful, anyway.
I can die in Tartarus or Asphodel 50 times, then beat 50 Heat one time, and all you'll see is the victory screen.
But you don't see the 50 runs that went absolutely nowhere.
opal vortex
I have not died in Tart or Asphodel in a looong time
Actually I think once I made it out of Tart I never died in asphodel
But obviously I'd die if I tried 50 heat lol
worldly aspen
lol i can only@imagine playing 50 hear
heat
i take one step into the first chamber and a numskull comes to gun me down
cunning urchin
Sub 10 minutes victory screens don't show you they reset everytime their time was bad coming out of Tartarus and were going at it for 6 hours until they finally got it.
Or like, first hammer sucks? Just step on a trap and keep doing that until you get the hammer you want in Tartarus.
worldly aspen
weew that takes a lot of dedication
opal vortex
It would be really nice if there was a faster way to reset
cunning urchin
I expect speedrunners will get around to using mods for that, eventually.
opal vortex
although if you have the higher trap dmg heat on I guess it would be fairly fast
Heightened security or whatever
opal vortex
Can you do high heat with god mode on?
I was just wondering how people confirm they don't have it on
I've never tried it
cunning urchin
God Mode has its own icon in the boon menu.
High heat leaderboard requires a video, anyway.
opal vortex
I wish you could toggle it on/off just to try it out without making a new file. Oh well
opal vortex
and it won't taint my save file somehow? lol
turbid needle
wym taint
opal vortex
I don't know. Lock me out of anything?
turbid needle
I dont think so
cunning urchin
It won't lock you out of anything.
opal vortex
or brand it as god mode
cunning urchin
Runs with gode mode on are tracked separately for the permanent record from your other runs, something like that.
And the streaks are counted separately. I don't know the details, never used it.
Just what I picked up from discussions.
opal vortex
hm, ok
valid prism
God mode is just a setting to enable from the menu if you are on a normal save. If you activate it during a run you will see the resistance bonus appear with a line and an icon as if it's a boon on your build
Technically you can max the god mode (80% resist), doing a 50 heat run, and just before the end of Hades you remove the god mode to pretend on the victory screen
opal vortex
lol
valid prism
But it's petty and for most of the runners here, it won't happen because of the videoproof
Or the fact that god mode can't be used on hell mode
opal vortex
fair enough
What does patty offer if you're using stubborn defiance? I'm still not at the point where I think it's better than DD, but I can see where it might be better if you're dying in non-boss and mini-boss rooms a lot
opal vortex
for how long?
turbid needle
15 rooms
valid prism
15 rooms
opal vortex
nice
cunning urchin
15 encounters, not 15 rooms.
turbid needle
true
proven osprey
You can also buy some more from wells to reach 100%
Or get last stand from Athena
Maximum value gaming
proven osprey
classic
cunning urchin
ledgerdamayn talked about exactly that earlier lol.
Said Splitting Bolt in Tartarus is a curse.
honest wing
oh wow
cunning urchin
Mirage Shot on its own is kinda poor.
proven osprey
But yesterday I died with a level 3 Phalanx shot in asphodel. Bonus cast from Chaos, bought one more at a well. Arthur 50, the pain.
cunning urchin
You can get better Cast damage curses from Master Chaos.
It's when you already have bonuses like that that Mirage Shot really shines.
But if it's your only bonus, +30% and ×1.3 are effectively the same.
solid sable
hey, does anyone have any tips to lower my times?
22 minutes avg per run seems really lame
for max mirror max aspect max meg support
valid dagger
There is a lot to cover so I suggest you watch this guide, https://youtu.be/z3Mmoo4oTKU @solid sable
cunning urchin
The speedrun starter kit. https://youtu.be/z3Mmoo4oTKU (same as above)
https://www.speedrun.com/hades/guides
https://www.hades-guides.ovh/index.php/generic-information/
neon nova
does attack dmg buff,affect dash-attacks?
cunning urchin
If it's a boon, yes. If it's a hammer, probably not, but sometimes yes. Best to check the wiki for hammers or just test it out yourself.
slim lynx
sometimes i get irrationally annoyed at people doing cast builds on non-cast weapons. like i mean if it works, it works but you couldn't have picked beowulf for this or something?
proven osprey
Beginners feat. Crystal Beam
jovial fulcrum
Crystal Meme arthur is too strong for Spammy's brain
cunning urchin
sometimes i get irrationally annoyed at people doing cast builds on non-cast wea...
You mean we should use actual Cast aspects like Excalibur for Cast builds, right?
honest wing
sometimes i get irrationally annoyed at people doing cast builds on non-cast wea...
I agree with you
misty sun
What would be a good build for an Eris gun?
fervent elbow
Zeus attack, Artemis/Aphrodite special, Poseidon dash
misty sun
Why Poseidon dash?
cunning urchin
Because it does the most damage, and all that damage is amplified by Eris's global damage buff.
misty sun
Couple things:
What does that guide mean by "reroll boons/doors", the "sigil" that they recommend for Elysium/Styx, and how do you summon Meg?
proven osprey
I think you're not far enough in the game
boreal prism
Yeah all of those things are things you unlock later
Ok crystal cast on lucifer asp is cool and fun and I'm allowed to do it
I ran it with the aphrodite demeter duo so that I could shoot both sides of theseus at the same time
patent raven
Theoretical max on Strong Drink is what, 38%? Or 40%?
cunning urchin
You can't get Heroic before Eurydice, so that's 5x6% + 2x5%. That's 40% max.
opal vortex
Boy do I really suck with Hera
patent raven
Just wondering. I got 32% on my last clear on an early Rare Crop.
opal vortex
But I keep using it because I need charged volley for my fated list...
cunning urchin
You'll get better with it eventually.
opal vortex
I doubt it
cunning urchin
If you really just want the prophecy and don't care for playing the aspect, you could just keep resetting until you get it in Tartarus.
opal vortex
The constant dash-strike + loading cast is just too many inputs for my fingers to do consistantly
consistently
cunning urchin
Execution is a matter of practice.
opal vortex
Everyone has their limits. lmfao
cunning urchin
I have Cast set to LB when I play Hera.
opal vortex
I use kb+m
strange lark
set cast to right click
cunning urchin
How many hours do you have in Hades? I doubt you're even close to your limits. 
The sky is the limit~!
opal vortex
I have it set to r click
100 runs. Don't know my actual number of hours because I let the game run sometimes
I'm not complaining exactly. I am fine with being bad with it
It's just funny to me how much more difficult it is than the other weapons
cunning urchin
And how many of those were with Hera?
I think that's just generally bow. Eventually you get the rhythm for it.
opal vortex
about 14 maybe?
cunning urchin
Took me quite awhile, too.
strange lark
when i was at 100 runs i was not very good
opal vortex
and mirage shot increases your dmg too?
opal vortex
with 14 runs with Hera and winning almost all of them you'd think I would have gotten offered charged volley by now...
jovial fulcrum
you can also get Ravenous Will which further incentives loading all your casts at once
cunning urchin
Epic Ravenous Will > Mirage Shot.
opal vortex
Why is the speed record for rail using 32 heat instead of like...6 or 9?
Oh wait, that's you! lmfao
strange lark
Why is the speed record for rail using 32 heat instead of like...6 or 9?
Wr hades run was using 9 heat
opal vortex
Yeah I didn't realize this was a posting for the last 7 days. My bad
cursive nest
Is Lucifer Aspect good at all?
boreal prism
I love lucifer
cursive nest
Boons? Builds?
dusky drum
dio/zeus/dem on attack work
and aphro/arte can too if you get the damage ramping hammer
special is there for yea high damage or duo reqs
pos on attack with sea storm is also a trip
boreal prism
You can invest in special hammers and go deep into detonating bombs, or build into attack and then it plays a bit like bow I think
cursive nest
It stacks Boon effects really quickly with the laser right?
So like, Demeter attack with the 10stack blast or Ares Doom attack stacks on extra hits?
boreal prism
Yep, laser good for stacking effects i feel
dusky drum
rail is just good for that :3
boreal prism
Poseidon atk is fun with knockback boons.... if you have an enemy against a wall you see "wall smash" pop up over and over
Or cornered
dusky drum
and if you get sea storm 👀
its just a lot of numbers
albeit not big, but still a lot of numbers and that makes me happy
boreal prism
Privileged status on lucifer... ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
quaint crystal
any recommendations with the shield? its my least used with only 1 clear
never really got into a rhythm with it compared to the others
boreal prism
Get good at blocking with it, maybe?
That's important skill for shield
What's your playstyle?
quaint crystal
fairly aggressive try to kill the enemies as quick as possible