h1-builds-and-combat

[keen mesa]

Fenial: ruthless reflex is 50% damage and dodge chance for 2 seconds after dashing just before getting hit

[misty turret]

the mirror talent opposite of greater reflex

instead of a second dash you get +50% damage and dodge chance for 2 seconds after a "Near Miss!"

its nice to have

[tiny olive]

ohhh I forgot about that

[misty turret]

ive been using it for the large majority of my play so far so im pretty used to not having 2 dashes

[tiny olive]

I'm might do that then

[ripe glade]

wow.. being offered 4 gods at styx tunnels... and I have the Elusive boon.. all will be Epic or better :D.. lol..

[chilly sapphire]

second wave tidal dash + a rupture boon is op

[tame bison]

Does rupture plus Poseidon cast on Beowulf work still?

[mighty ermine]

don't see why it wouldn't

[tame bison]

Yeah it does. I figured but had a decent choice of Rupture vs Poseidon aid

[kindred whale]

im trying to do a build with rama

by spamming special

what olympian boon should I get on my special

to high stack damage and effects like doom

[mighty ermine]

rama works best by focusing on your attack following shared suffering application but uhhh

if you really want special spam, go zeus or dionysus

[kindred whale]

ty

[opal lodge]

tailesque in shambles whenever the people ask for rama special builds

[mighty ermine]

a little shard of me dies every time

[tame bison]

Is Rama attack good? 🤔

🙂

Joking

[proven osprey]

Spam special, don't powerstrike

These are the advice I got first on Rama

[mighty ermine]

lol

[mighty ermine]

there was an incredible amount of comments even following 1.0 claiming that rama's power shot was too slow and never worth it, never use it

[wanton hemlock]

if i'm going for speedruns on fists, is there anything better than just spamming ares?

haven't found anything that works better yet

[mighty ermine]

lightning strike and deadly flourish is another viable route for demeter fists speedruns

[wanton hemlock]

hmmmm deadly flourish does sound interesting

is lightning strike decent enough single target for the bosses though?

[mighty ermine]

not on its own; ideally you also want the deadly flourish charged uppers to make up for it

and other things like jolted

[wanton hemlock]

yeah i might give that a go 🙂 early lightning strike would certainly make for a fast tartarus too. Thanks

[gusty rapids]

seconding tail, zeus attack arty special is good on dem fists

if you can get a good dash like ares dash (requires a bit of support like black metal or engulfing vortex), Poseidon dash (can be a little weird since fists are short range but still good), or aphro dash

and some zeus tier 2’s, specifically jolted, you’ll be good

[keen delta]

anyone have a recommended build for guan yu?

and is guan yu worth using when you first unlock it or should I level it up first?

[opal lodge]

you also want splash dash

but thats hard to control

if youre a gamer blade dash/pash dash also work

[mighty ermine]

true, long knuckle is perf for that to work correctly

[proven osprey]

Level it up

[proven osprey]

Best hammer : Charged skewer (by far), Quick spin, Massive spin, Serrated Point (good damage, risky).
Classic charged skewer build : Heartbreak strike, Deadly Flourish to get Heart Rend. The other way around is fine too even though a bit less powerful.
Any special % boon is good with charged skewer, Artemis being the best since the crit scaling is amazing.
Spin builds : Divine strike, Deadly strike, Frost strike, Heartbreak strike are good.
Frost strike is a strong option since it’s safe.
Divine strike and Deadly strike can lead to Deadly Reversal which is good. Divine strike is safer, you can play around your spin to stay safe while dealing damage.
Optimal dps rotation : Special > Dash strike > Dash strike

[keen delta]

Alright I'll level it up first and check back at this

[tame bison]

@mighty ermine I watched some of your videos and understood. I honestly wasn’t using it much until that tho

This was like 2 weeks ago

[mighty ermine]

lol, i don't blame people for wanting to just focus special at first

quick, easy, no commitment compared to power shots

[tame bison]

Yeah and it’s not immediately clear that you can proc Shared Suffering on one target

[mighty ermine]

yeah, it's huge

[sullen cargo]

Hey - wasn't sure if this should go here or new players, But I had unlocked guan yu a while back and hadn't used it, I've now got it nearly fully upgraded, but I was planning on giving it a shot.

I was going to go Dionysus for after party and the like, but I have no idea what I should get for attack/special boons.

I was thinking arte on the attack for big numbers, but the spin attack could be good for getting stacks, or even zeus might be good on the spin... any recommendations?

[proven osprey]

Well

what about reading my post a bit higher?

[sullen cargo]

Actually that's fantastic - I had scrolled up a while back and skimmed, then scrolled back to the bottom and missed your post...

[proven osprey]

lmao

[dry ember]

Anyone have a recommended build for GY?

[proven osprey]

If you need more details, just ask

[dry ember]

why laugh im new 😳

[proven osprey]

Sure sure

[sullen cargo]

The laughter is because this is the third time in a row a guan yu build has been asked about @dry ember

[proven osprey]

He was kidding

[dry ember]

Ah thank you! I should have scrolled up

[proven osprey]

lmao

[sullen cargo]

Ohhh - gotcha.

[proven osprey]

You damn Fox

[dry ember]

Glad to know people are nice in this server instead of cyber bullying others.

[proven osprey]

...

[dry ember]

xD

[proven osprey]

very good one ngl

[rare kindle]

Hey guys, how do I Gy?

[tame bison]

I could use some help with Guan Tu also

[dry ember]

Guys just scroll up. Astaos wrote a very helpful guide not too far up

[mighty ermine]

it is up to guan you to scroll up

[rare kindle]

GY is very popular to ask about

I always die in Styx when I GY

[dry ember]

Everyone always asks how to GY, no one ever asks how is GY.

sadge

[rare kindle]

Well, GY is deified in China for unifying China during the three kingdoms era, so fairly well?

[proven osprey]

You guys are impossible

[proven osprey]

hope you're proud of you on this one

[mighty ermine]

yes

[proven osprey]

Understandable

[rare kindle]

I do wonder why they chose healing and reduced health for a guandao

[proven osprey]

I wonder why Zag wields it

ONE HANDED

[misty turret]

[rare kindle]

Zag is jacked

[proven osprey]

It's just non sense

[lucid moth]

is delta chamber good?

[proven osprey]

It's not a top hammer but it's ok

[lucid moth]

what are the top hammer upgrades for the gun

[proven osprey]

Aspect?

[lucid moth]

no i mean daedelus hammer abilities

like which ones should i pick with the gun

[proven osprey]

I mean, what aspect do you want to play? Hammer will depend

[lucid moth]

eris

[proven osprey]

Then you'll want the awesome combo : cluster rocket cluster bomb

[lucid moth]

so cluster bomb and rocket actually works?

wait that would ruin eris lmao

[proven osprey]

it works and it's powerful

No, you still get the same aoe buff

[lucid moth]

but u cant see the explosion with rocket

[proven osprey]

it's perfectly fine

true

[lucid moth]

so how do u get powered up

by ur special with rocket

[proven osprey]

It's not hard really, Eris is already a lot of melee

Other than that Targeting System is ok

[lucid moth]

yeah just would i have to walk in front of the rocket or...

[proven osprey]

not at all

[lucid moth]

it just happens on its own then

[proud plover]

Bewoulf + zeus cast didn't work as I expected

[proven osprey]

You should try it, you'll see it's really ok

[lucid moth]

sure

[proud plover]

what are good aoe casts for bewoulf?

[lucid moth]

what happened

[proven osprey]

Poseidon Aphrodite

Poseidon's very popular nowadays

[opal lodge]

poseidon is the bomb dot com

dio too

[proud plover]

I expected the bull rush to cast different chain lightnings but it is only one lighting, so single target

[feral sail]

Hunting blades + aspect of Zeus = Alecto/beyblade master build

[lucid moth]

how is dematur

*demeter

[runic kraken]

I got such a broken build this time around. Artemis Zeus duo where my cast bloodstones cause people to constantly get struck by lightening. I legit killed Hades while running around doing nothing. It was great 😂

[regal garden]

check victory boasting for a completely unintententional mix of duos

creating an incredibly broken trippy shot

[runic kraken]

I saw! You had the lightning rod duo I used

[regal garden]

yeah

the lightning rod and deadly reversal were both new duos but like

trippy shot + high tolerance + scintillating feast + ice wine

the only thing that would have made it better

is if i had black out

which would have required a hangover boon

[runic kraken]

I usually don’t do duos but I thought “hey why not?” This time. I’ll definitely be experimenting with them more now

[regal garden]

probably could have played against hades better that run but overall

i mean i had stubborn roots so i doubt it would have mattered

if i had lost all my dds

[runic kraken]

I mean, do you need to even play the game when you have lightning rod?

[regal garden]

i didnt meant to get stubborn roots

i mean when you have all that stuff on trippy shot

you just fill the area with it

and it does damage from lightning

when its therea nd when it turns into astone

[ripe glade]

@runic kraken I used to be like that.. then hunting duo's is kinda what I do most now.. actually.. I hunt legendary boons now... getting them makes the run.. well.. just better.. hunt those duo's....

[regal garden]

very fun run though

having all those duos

[runic kraken]

I’m definitely gonna be hunting more duos and I wanna try your run @regal garden. Just all duos

[regal garden]

it wasnt intentional

[runic kraken]

See how AFK I can be with them

[regal garden]

and i didnt even have the mirror upgrade that makes duos more likely

[runic kraken]

I know but still

[regal garden]

ok

yeah

gl

i got like

loads of gods on my main attacks which probably allowed it to happen

[runic kraken]

True true. Variety helps

[regal garden]

if you notice how i did the order of duos

its all so one god from the one above the next duo

is on the one below

etc

like demeter // dionysus

dionysus // zeus

zeus / artemis

artemis / athena

[runic kraken]

I’ll keep that in mind

[regal garden]

athena / demeter

honesty it was unintentional

[ripe glade]

Dio / Art... the elusive boon is amazing.. all future boons are then Epic

[regal garden]

thats the crit

hangover

i think ive got that at some point

just enevr done a clear with it

[ripe glade]

don't forget to transition your playstyle....

depends on your build.. you may also need to change the way you play

[misty turret]

first room of elysium this run

armored flame wheels and armored greatshields

ffs

[regal garden]

i feel ike

dio / art duo

could be good with chiron

[proven osprey]

it is

[regal garden]

like more crits per hangover

[runic kraken]

Oh I’ve been maining Varatha a lot but picked up Malphon last night for a change of pace... boi, I was wrong to disregard it. Magnetic cutter is so good.

[ripe glade]

just completed my last fate.. which was defeat Chiron twice.. and it was with art/dio

[regal garden]

thats just built for a crit machine that can easily apply hangover

[proven osprey]

oh arte

[runic kraken]

I’m trying to get all hidden aspects

[regal garden]

i only need to

[proven osprey]

was thinking about Aphro there

[regal garden]

get the shield one

is it beowulf?

[proven osprey]

yup

[ripe glade]

@misty turret run and cast.. lol..

[regal garden]

aphrodite dionysus would also be very good tbh

with chiron

[proven osprey]

yeah chiron is basically heart rend or low tolerance

[ripe glade]

remember to check your Codex.. and focus on what duo boons you want... and then run for those...

Posidon and Dio is also great

[regal garden]

yeah

i got that in asphodel once

had exclusive access for two whole areas

[ripe glade]

amazing boon... but there's a little trick.. only figured it out.. when you start a run.. if you are giving an Epic... for either attack, special or cast.. give up that run... and then plan your run... you will always get the same boon

if you get an epic Attack.. then restart the run.. choose your weapon and keepsake.. you will always get the same Epic when you start the run...

[misty turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/362939825000677377/796529708631195679/unknown.png

mfw

[ripe glade]

@misty turret what weapon you have?

[misty turret]

im using chiron but w/e im already past the room

[ripe glade]

still.. I hate those flaming buggers

[viral star]

Which are yalls favourite gods

Mine are definitely Aphrodite for the big big big chunks of damage and Athena because. Yea

[runic kraken]

Athena, I’ve taken to Ares and Artemis a lot. Dionysus too. Zeus is useful but I usually hope for those three

[viral star]

Ooo i see

Artemis is good but the problem with crits is that like

When you have no attack to scale off of, a 90 dmg crit won't do much

[feral sail]

Dio and demeter are doing it for me lately

[misty turret]

dionysus always has something i'll take

[runic kraken]

I mostly like her for support fire. It’s pretty great and her cast is good too

[viral star]

They can definitely get amazing though

It is!

[runic kraken]

She’s grown on me

[viral star]

I love Demeter

[feral sail]

dio's aid is shockingly destructive/good for crowd control

[misty turret]

there's never a point where i've said "meh all this stuff doesn't really help" with dionysus

plus his legendary is great

[viral star]

Oh Yea Dionysus is just

Turn brain off

[misty turret]

DC2 flame wheels are an affront to god

[feral sail]

plus the serotonin of hearing "zag man"

[runic kraken]

Oh yea, Dio is super Useful

[viral star]

I love him so much but I've taken to slower weapons so yee

I LOVE HIM SM...

i wanna hug him

[regal garden]

i just got the dionysus poster

[viral star]

Very good

[feral sail]

aphro/dio duo boon and then just stacking that ish

[misty turret]

i haven't seen flame wheel escape in like 25 runs

[viral star]

Omg my favourite build for the shield is like

[misty turret]

grr

[viral star]

Artemis/Aphrodite/Dionysus duo trifecta

[regal garden]

thats

heart rend

oh yeah thats amazing

that sounds like a deadly combo all three of those duso

[viral star]

It's so fun you have no idea

[misty turret]

beowulf with festive fog is a treat

doesn't beat beowulf with aphro cast but still good

[viral star]

festive pog :>

[feral sail]

ice wine is probably my favorite dio duo

[regal garden]

festive has grown on me

after trying duo boons with it

even if i still prefer many other ones

[viral star]

while I'm not a big Ares fan I can't deny hunting blades

[regal garden]

i need to get that

[runic kraken]

D:

[viral star]

Press cast to beat the game

[runic kraken]

^^^

[viral star]

:3

[feral sail]

hunting blades bangs

[regal garden]

i did a freezing blades run

earlier today

[feral sail]

let it rip

[regal garden]

was good

[runic kraken]

Dash to turn into a beyblade

[feral sail]

if you can snag the ares legendary too

[viral star]

though my favourite duo is probably sea storm because zeus and poseidon have so many tier 2 boons it's so funny

[feral sail]

why not pick up the blade dash too

[viral star]

and the call 👀

[misty turret]

EM theseus/asterius is easier than non-EM seriously

[feral sail]

i feel like EM t/a is easier but takes longer

[fair tree]

whats a fun build withchaos?

[viral star]

You haven't fallen victim to Asterius's spin attack enough times

[misty turret]

i run ruthless reflex and still dodge that

[fair tree]

*aspect of chaos

[runic kraken]

I’m about to do EM... wish me luck

[viral star]

Though Theseus without his shield is definitely better

Luck!

[runic kraken]

Thank

[misty turret]

there's like a 2 second charge up animation for the spin

[viral star]

Dio on the special is always good

or zeus

[fair tree]

alright

i've also heard of a very powerful aspect of lucifer build but it requires both a dual and a legendary bild

*boon

[misty turret]

doom stacking lucifer is pretty fun

[fair tree]

i was thinking of zeus/poseiden lucifer

[misty turret]

dire misfortune + ares attack and tada 300 damage dooms every second or so

i had deflect on lucifer special once

that was fun

[viral star]

After a lot of trial and error

[fair tree]

also what's the best possible build for hera bow

[viral star]

I've decided that my fave weapon is indeed the sword

It's just fun

[fair tree]

like best possible singleshot damage

[viral star]

Aphrodite cast is definitely good, big ole Chunks

[fair tree]

so far what ive found is dio can consistently get 1000+ damage shots early on

[viral star]

For hera you just don't want zeus/demeter/artemis casts

Anything else is fair game tbh

Also I wouldn't go Dionysus attack because I'm not sure how consistently you'd stack hangover

[fair tree]

trippy shot has the highest damage ive seenn

yeah it has the highest base damage and drops gauranteed

[viral star]

Trippy shot is never bad

And has some great duo boons

Esp scintillating feast because of Zeus tier 2s

[lucid moth]

does trippy flare count as a cast?

[misty turret]

the flares are just casts for beowulf so yeah

[fair tree]

scintillating feast?

whats that

[viral star]

I'm fairly sure? It's just the stygian soul version of trippy shot

[regal garden]

makes lightning

come down in trippy shot area

[viral star]

Zeus/Dio duo

Yeye

[fair tree]

ah

[viral star]

Fun as hell

[regal garden]

you can combine it with

ice wine also

[fair tree]

so far dem/dio dual with arti is the best i've seen

[regal garden]

so you have

an extra blast damage trippy shot

[fair tree]

can you have multiple duals?

[regal garden]

that inflicts chill in its area

and lightning

yeah i got 5 duos last run

[dry ember]

You sure can.

[fair tree]

oh
my
god

s

within context

[dry ember]

A classic is Ice Wine, Scintillating Feast, and Cold Fusion

[regal garden]

i got lightning rod with it

not cold fusion

so even after the fog is gone

theres lightning

[fair tree]

that sounds like such a pain

[regal garden]

i got it like

right before hades it was fun

basically

i think my opibion of trippy shot has changed after seeing waht a good few duos can do to it

[fair tree]

what aspect should i get

[regal garden]

aspect of what

spear ? shield?

[misty turret]

33 streak pog

[fair tree]

hidden

what hidden aspect

i mainly use spear and bow

im thinking of getting arthur or lucifer

[misty turret]

if you haven't already unlocked the spear one

then that

[fair tree]

i have it revealed

not unlocked

[misty turret]

otherwise kinda up to you but i like playing with arthur quite a bit

[fair tree]

i wanna get lucifer cuz it gives me an excuse to use poseidon

[regal garden]

i might get arthur as my first hidden unlocked

[misty turret]

if you can put titan blood in guan yu then you're good

[regal garden]

i still have to reveal the shield one

[fair tree]

but i wanna get arthur because it looks cool

[regal garden]

its annoying

[misty turret]

aspect of rama is pretty fun

although definitely different

[regal garden]

i have that unlocked

[misty turret]

im liking just playing with only lambent plume

usually i can clear rooms fast enough where at hades im usually around 20-25% dodge

[regal garden]

yeah i got

20.1 percent dodge first run with it

obvioulsy it only level 1 at the start and i could have played better and got more so

but i did good i think

[misty turret]

my best with it is like 32% after hades

[runic kraken]

Well then! Meg and her sisters are talking now I guess lol. But that was nice. Didn’t expect to see all three

[misty turret]

well this is a start to a run

https://i.imgur.com/SNnOjJK.png

[regal garden]

wow

thats

bonus hangover stacks right

[misty turret]

yeah

[regal garden]

what weapon are you on

[misty turret]

demeter fists

[regal garden]

ooh

havent used those

i own them

but only level 1

gl though

clearly a solid start to your build

[misty turret]

now i just need kinetic launcher and im set

and then dio gives me epic trippy shot

[dense tusk]

ez

[misty turret]

||https://i.imgur.com/D4G3jIj.png|| wowie

[dense tusk]

I think that goes in #h1-story-discussion

[teal juniper]

@misty turret what weapon are you using?

[misty turret]

_ _

[teal juniper]

Nice

Fists are really good with dio on attack

[proud plover]

Snow Burst is kinda awesome

[fair tree]

scintillating feast or cold fusion

i got both at once

im doing a bow of hera dio cast build

[opal lodge]

scint feast

[teal juniper]

Nvm

Scintillating fog yeah

[misty turret]

battie + aphro call to eliminate theseus p2 is fun

he didn't even get to mention a god

[dense tusk]

"Lord A- y-you... monster..."

[feral sail]

dio + aphro fists build... punch-drunk love

[misty turret]

unsurprisingly that was my fastest run yet #h1-victory-boasting

[fair tree]

i just got my worst best luck ive ever gotten

got dual boons insanely quick

got all 3 deities i wanted by sheer luck without room rewards visible only using one keepsake

didn't get the dual boon i wanted

had almost no attack damage

[rustic wedge]

Dio Only Malphon.

[pale kayak]

Malphon - Demeter Aspect.

[rare walrus]

Considering boonless has been done many times, one god only is surely possible

[pale kayak]

I think that Demter is the best aspect of Malphon, imho.

[misty turret]

i like it more than gilgamesh yeah

zag is better defensively but meh having 7x hit on special is strong

[pale kayak]

^

Especially when you give Artemis' Special

Holy moly

[rustic wedge]

I personally prefer the reliable Zag-aspect; dodge chance is me friend.

[pale kayak]

The special is more reliable, imho.

[dry ember]

try Demeter and love the burst

[fair tree]

question 2 whats a good build for poseidon sword

[misty turret]

exit wounds

[dry ember]

Phalanx Shot with Lightning Phalanx

[fair tree]

whats so good about phalanx shot?

[misty turret]

i think these are my favorite aspects for each weapon rn https://i.imgur.com/RIIHnTJ.png

[dry ember]

Nemesis/Hades/Chaos/Zagreus/Demeter/Hestia

[misty turret]

beowulf close second on shield

[dense tusk]

Arthur/Aquilles/Zagreus/All of them/Talos/Hestia

[misty turret]

ill finish maxing out the zag aspects on my spear and shield and then begin work on the last of the aspects i have yet to unlock

[lucid moth]

how does that happen

[misty turret]

those being nemesis/achilles/zeus/hera/talos/hestia

[misty turret]

have enough fights with her

there'll be dialogue about it

[rustic wedge]

Mine's the following:
Arthur / Achilles / Chaos / Homing Special / Zag / zag

[rancid crag]

whats a good build with chaos shield?

[misty turret]

homing special is chiron

[rancid crag]

cause i dont find it that interesting

unless im missing some good kind of buil

d

[dry ember]

Use spec with doom or lightning

[dense tusk]

Anything that works on zag really

[rancid crag]

i mean it could be better if the extra shields would actually bounce on walls

[misty turret]

according to my stats my most used keepsake is lambent plume and/or broken spearpoint

[rancid crag]

i mean they dont even bounce on enemies but walls even?

[misty turret]

i mean you can just get in an enemy's face and shotgun them with all 6 shields

[rancid crag]

its quite hard

you have to get rly close and be precise

why settle for this when you can have zeus special

and the dmg is not very convincing as well

[fossil moat]

yooooooooooooo, base zagreus bow maxed out is so fun

[dense tusk]

bull rush > special that's how chaos goes

[dense tusk]

yeah

[rancid crag]

bull rush is good in any shield

[fossil moat]

natural crit without going down artemis, hell ye

[dense tusk]

Wait, i meant charged attack. How was it called?

[misty turret]

bull rush is the charge attack on shield

[rancid crag]

yeah

as i've thought it, the best way you can use chaos special is with athena

its rly wide so it can work..

[misty turret]

tiny bull rushes and special spam in enemy's faces is how i get my damage with it

[dense tusk]

Right, almost confused it with minotaur rush

[rancid crag]

i understand you have to spam the special but the arc while firing is rly wide, cant rly hit much

you have to be close and precise each time

which i wont get into

as i said the big problem is that the extra shields wont bounce on walls and then lock on enemies like the basic shield

which makes it so strong

even with zagreus aspect, if you get the deadalus upgrade which allows extra bounces, you can get ares special and do the same job fine, even better i can say

[fossil moat]

for me, dionysus is a good balance, whether shottgunning the sheild or crowd controlling

[dense tusk]

Chaos aspect gets dread flight right?

[fossil moat]

yes

[rancid crag]

but it works only on the base shield, correct?

[fossil moat]

don't know if it applies to clone sheilds

[fossil moat]

.

[rancid crag]

if it works then damn, the world is change

d

[dense tusk]

It works but not on the extra shields i think

[misty turret]

which is dread flight?

[rancid crag]

yeah it would be too op lol

[dense tusk]

The one that adds extra bounces to your special

[misty turret]

it does effect the other shields i believe

[dry ember]

Dread Flight is anti synergy on Chaos

[misty turret]

honestly its more annoying than anything ^^^^^

[dry ember]

You want to throw as many shield as often as possible

Dead Flight makes the down time longer.

[fossil moat]

true, the quicker it comes back the better

and you don't want to be vulnerable after bull rushing

[rancid crag]

come on if the extra shields can bounce more they can spam effects like crazy

[fossil moat]

athena attacks btw I'm guessing?

[rancid crag]

in my mind in theory it sounds great

[opal lodge]

dread flight does not impaxt the extra shields

[rancid crag]

well then

[opal lodge]

dread flight is quite bad on almost every single shield

or there are just better hammers

explosive return/dashing flight are amazing on chaos

[misty turret]

dashing flight good

[opal lodge]

charged shot is amazing on every shield

[dense tusk]

Dread flight works great with doom

[rancid crag]

oh yeah dashing flght is good

[rancid crag]

^

[dense tusk]

and dashing flight is good but awkward to use

[rancid crag]

and charged shot is truly op for me

with every shield as u said

[misty turret]

hades gives my left hand a workout i swear

[rancid crag]

piercing shot is its actual name as i recall

[dense tusk]

Charged shot is just bow but it makes Theseus cry

[misty turret]

moving, clicking special, reloading with gun, dashing

[rancid crag]

yup xD

[rancid crag]

have you thought of binding special to right click?

it can help

[misty turret]

eh i like the binds as they are

[rancid crag]

for me the worst with having special on q is having to use it on dash with fists

its like really awkard if u want to move left

[opal lodge]

just bind it to another mouse button

[rancid crag]

yeah thats what i told him lol

but that was not the point anyway

[opal lodge]

i have it on m4

[misty turret]

i always forget i turn on underworld customs

got my “purge a legendary boon” today by purging hermes legendary

[rancid crag]

what did that do again?

[fossil moat]

auto returnns casts

[rancid crag]

ah yes

[fossil moat]

can I ask, does dash attack work with bow?

is that just the fast charge or do you need to 'videogame' it

by dashing at the ibnstant you attack again?

[rancid crag]

the fast charge is the actual dash attack

[fossil moat]

poggers

[rancid crag]

it deals less dmg tho

but you can easily mitigate it with artemis

[fossil moat]

106% dash attack from chaos

oh

[rancid crag]

and that lol

[fossil moat]

is there swearing here?

[rancid crag]

dont know lol

probly not

[fossil moat]

welp....

let's hecking gooooooooooo

[rancid crag]

consider stacking crit as well

it will be g00d

[fossil moat]

base zag bow, but will take during the asphodel lift

[fair tree]

what was the good shield of chaos build again

aspect of chaos too

[fossil moat]

the discussion above is all about that for hammers

as for boons, a lot of stuff works

for special

[dense tusk]

merciful end

[fossil moat]

stackers if you want to shotgun all of your shields into one foe

dionysus or demeter

flat damage like zues

[fossil moat]

In the name of Hades, thank you @rancid crag . avg crit was around 1600, max 2000. blitz through ||EM4||

[keen mesa]

https://imgur.com/fGFDZfU.jpg

This WOULD be a super easy run, but Forced Overtime level 2 is insane...

[fossil moat]

sounds fun but id take an athena dash just for security xD

especially if you wanna go f a s t

[rare walrus]

FO2 is hard

its what im missing to go from 37 to 40 but 😬

[misty turret]

we love underworld customs

https://i.imgur.com/4SooucK.png

[opal lodge]

thats why you run fated persuasion

you deserve all that

[regal garden]

purge a legendary for the achievement

[misty turret]

already have the achievement

i wasnt using greater recall anyway

[regal garden]

do it for the meme

[past raven]

Purge greater recall

It's not really that useful anyways tbh

[regal garden]

i was gonna suggest that anyway but had no idea if you would have agreed

its more useful with hera right

[past raven]

Rarity doesn't matter as much as usage

[opal lodge]

greater recall is fantastic on achilles/poseidon believe it or not

[craggy rapids]

Lol wut

Just got censored

[past raven]

#readme-first

[craggy rapids]

Anyway, Sea Storm build is terrible. Difficult to set up, and hardly worth it. That or Calisthenics Program is actually just the worst thing.

Barely managed to finish a 15 heat run with only EM3.

[opal lodge]

what sea storm build?

[craggy rapids]

In my case, Zagreus Rail and the goal was Sea Storm, Rupture, Wave Shot (attack) with at least double strike. Took until Elysium to get Static Discharge and finally Sea Storm. And the damage is very unimpressive from what I can tell.

[opal lodge]

well tempest strike is terrible

so theres your problem

whoever suggested it was trolling you

[craggy rapids]

No suggestion, just something I wanted to do.

I know its percentage is low, but yeah the knockback seems worthless

[opal lodge]

theres a reason super soaker is a meme category

[craggy rapids]

I even had the enhanced knockback damage on. Having Ricochet shot was kind of cool for groups though.

I was not aware of this. What would be the best way to set up Sea Storm then?

[opal lodge]

its not really something thats "optimal" on most things now

tidal dash is still the main draw

[misty turret]

i might start using a different sword aspect than arthur

[craggy rapids]

I see. Good to know it's not just me then. It was agonizing.

[slim lynx]

divine strike or proud bearing? i'm using arthur and sigil of the dead

[daring turtle]

proud bearing + sigil of the dead is pretty sweet, but the Call doesn't last that long unfortunately

[slim lynx]

eh i'll just get another attack boon

imo hades' aid is really good anyways, especially with an already hard-hitting weapon

[misty turret]

yeah that run was garbage

still won but god

dionysus aid practically carried

[proud plover]

So, is the special ability on the knuckles supposed to be visible as a debuff? I feel like it's not procing

nvm, it's the dash upper

[misty turret]

cool now there's only one aspect per weapon i have yet to unlock/max

[nova shale]

So, I feel like arthur sword with aphro attack is one of the best weapons

[gusty dagger]

Can anyone help me with Hera bow? I feel like I'm playing it incorrectly since I struggle with it compared to others. Are there builds that's viable for this aspect aside from Dio cast?

[obsidian surge]

I have a zeus fists build i just saw the final boss for the first time now i got the seasons god what boons work with the build

[fading garden]

Aphro cast is very good with bow

[opal lodge]

aphro cast is sick

[gusty dagger]

Ohh im actually running that rn. What do i build around it? Currently have ares on attack, will see how this run goes

[opal lodge]

aphro cast is more viable than dio cast

you could pick up curse of longing

but snow burst is usually a priority

to give you aoe

parting shot is an option if athena is in your pool

[gusty dagger]

How big is the aoe of snow burst?

Dont i have to be beside them?

[fading garden]

Also, blown kiss never hurts with aphro cast

[opal lodge]

snow burst is huge

you need to be near them but the aoe is super large

[fading garden]

It does 40 damage (common) every time you load a cast into bow

Arctic blast is also quite good with snow burst

[opal lodge]

or killing freeze

[fading garden]

For sure. Depending on how much freeze you have, you may not be able to arctic blast consistently, so killing freeze would be better in that situation.

[gusty dagger]

How about daedalus upgrades?

[opal lodge]

they dont matter

triple is fine

twin is fine

charged volley is fine

[turbid needle]

Am I a simp for loving Pom blossom keepsake?

[forest marsh]

What's not to love?

[outer glacier]

Double Lightning strike chance works so good, especially with the Lightning dash.

[fading garden]

Oh yeah, double strike is a solid boon

[vocal sierra]

so am i a bonobo or does the hidden aspect of the spear suck

[dry ember]

Why not both?

Just kidding, it's neither :D

Spear GY gets better with practice and upgrade

And you are great

[bronze sorrel]

So I used to think Tempest strike on melee was all bad, but I did a run recently that made me rethink a bit. I was doing a zeus cast build and wanted to get sea storm on splash dash (like the good ole days) and I also wanted to crank the dps a bit since I've found electric shot falls off pretty hard vs bosses. Tempest strike was offered at Epic and I was like "ya know what lets try it." Id picked up splitting bolt and breaking wave in tartarus and elysium respectively and I got sea storm just before Champions. I wasn't shocked that I cleared Styx easy but I was really surprised how effective it was vs dad. I think if you're already taking both uncles its worth for the extreme boon synergy created by sea storm.

[vocal sierra]

idk how do u need to use it like

[bronze sorrel]

Whats wrong with bonobos.

[vocal sierra]

🐒

[dry ember]

Try Charged Skewer and Deadly Flourish

Don't even bother to spin

Spam special

[vocal sierra]

i never spin lmao

too useless

[dry ember]

Well that's a good start

[bronze sorrel]

Divine strike on spin isn't bad

[dry ember]

Which weapon is this?

[bronze sorrel]

Poseidon aspect

I was experimenting to find ways to up damage for zeus cast vs bosses

[vocal sierra]

idk sacrifing so much health and for what a slightly better special

[fading garden]

Hidden spear is very powerful, but it is slow. Having Hermes boons is a nice thing to have for hidden spear

Also, Punishing sweep is quite good on hidden spear

[bronze sorrel]

Dash strike builds can be good on Guan Yu too if you get the hammer.

[fading garden]

Serrated point is just a solid hammer in general

[bronze sorrel]

For sure. Probably my favorite spear hammer

[fading garden]

I dunno. Chained skewer with a doom special is the dream 😍

[bronze sorrel]

XD

Not the best for bosses tho

[vocal sierra]

zagreus aspect is just better i thinl

[fading garden]

Nah, all the spears are pretty solid

[bronze sorrel]

Achilles is my fav

Love me some cast builds with 150% cast damage.

[fading garden]

Achilles is a lot of people's favorites.

All the aspects are showing their true colors for me now, so I don't really have a preference

[bronze sorrel]

I like them all too, but Zeus, Achilles and Lucifer are ones I am especially fond of.

[outer glacier]

I personally obsessed with the shield. Most versitale weapon for my playstyle.

[short vapor]

Thats so funny i cant stand the shield

The fists work so so well for me though

Speaking of which

Does anyone know which cast boons work best for beowulf

[gusty rapids]

aphro cast and poseidon cast both work very well with fairly little setup, poseidon is nice in particular because it already gives you one half of the prereqs for mirage shot which is great

dionysus cast is also fantastic but requires a bit more work (more duos and boons and stuff), once u get it going though its unstoppable

[fading garden]

I recommend watching Haelian do a run with Beowulf.

It's a very aggressive shield

[gusty rapids]

a good, complete beowulf build is just a literal nuke

[mighty ermine]

punishing sweep is hades aspect's spin name and effect though...?

[gusty rapids]

idk if any weapon can match the raw power a fully built beowulf has

[fading garden]

True... I was just referring to the spin attack in general. My bad

[sullen valley]

Quick question (for bow users):

Faster Attack (Twin Shot), or Faster Special (Charged Volley)

[fading garden]

Depends on your build

[mighty ermine]

never take hermes attack speed on bow, generally

[short vapor]

Sick

[fading garden]

Twin shot tends to be a bit more powerful

[mighty ermine]

it only affects standing attacks

not dash-strikes

[sullen valley]

b r u h

[fading garden]

Well, dash strikes are fast as it is

[sullen valley]

With that knowledge, Special then. T-T

I'm assuming he means Hermes Attack boon doesn't affect Dash Strikes

[fading garden]

Ohhh, you're referring to Hermes boons.

[mighty ermine]

yes, but i'm just highlighting why you wouldn't take swift strike

[sullen valley]

Yep

[fading garden]

That's fair, you never really want to do a normal attack on bow anyway

[short vapor]

Shoot

[smoky lynx]

Is lucifer aspect still worth the grind to unlock?

[short vapor]

Thats why artemis dash boon is dash strike power

[fading garden]

All aspects are

[short vapor]

Instead of something like hangover or weak or blade rift

Because you dash strike so damn much with the bow

Ohhhhhhh

[fading garden]

Congratulations! You found a curse word the bot doesn't care about

[mighty ermine]

hunter dash is indeed one of the best dash boons you can get on bow

[fading garden]

Oh for sure

[short vapor]

I was so worried abt that actually

[fading garden]

But I'm not allowed to say c*cky even if it's not a curse word :(

[short vapor]

I’m like making a conscious effort not to say swears in this server bc its so nice to be here

[mighty ermine]

lol don't worry, swears won't ban or suspend you

proxy just gets mad and removes the message

[dry ember]

Proxy can time you out for posting links too quickly though

Learned that the hard way.

[mighty ermine]

ah yes

same here

put in time out for trying to share things

[ancient crystal]

how much reliable crit chance can you get for an artemis build?

[onyx vault]

Does Urge To Kill stack with the Shattered Shackle?

[mighty ermine]

yes

additive

[onyx vault]

Nice

[sullen valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318563142810468352/796659202314862632/unknown.png

Question:

Why

[mighty ermine]

dark foresight gaming

[sullen valley]

No, that's not the point here

LOOK AT WHAT BOONS I HAVE

and what's upgraded.

[mighty ermine]

a lot

[sullen valley]

Nononono, you see-

I can have a Level 6 Different League

but a common Special and Epic Attack, no upgrades

Level 5 Call?!

[mighty ermine]

yes

[sullen valley]

Level 3 Dash. I just need the utility I really don't need it's damage too much

[short vapor]

Dionysus on speed dial

Good for u

[sullen valley]

I'm like

[mighty ermine]

yeah i mean dio call is no joke in terms of damage

that bad boy is gonna hit like a DoT truck

[dry ember]

I read that as taco truck

[sullen valley]

This is the jankest build I've ever gotten
I turned my bow into a Melee Build - Again, except the Special and Attack aren't upgraded

[dry ember]

Time for bed

[sullen valley]

and everything else is

Jfc I just upgraded my Special and Attack for the first time after I complete all of the Styx tunnels

LEVEL 7 DIONYSUS AIGHT?

I'm in pain.

That was

the worst

[short vapor]

Yessssss

[sullen valley]

2 legendaries in 1 room pog pog pog

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318563142810468352/796670542194278410/unknown.png

[obtuse stag]

Whats faster for grinding gemstones + darkness. Darker thirst ~18-20min runs, or eris rail <15min runs

[mighty ermine]

if you're really trying to grind for gems and darkness, chaos eclipse blessings and ocean's bounty are what you truly want

darker thirst is a drop in the bucket by comparison

[obtuse stag]

so egg or conch as the start keepsake?

[mighty ermine]

yeah pretty much

it's nice if darker thirst lines up with what you want to use, but it's not that huge really

[obtuse stag]

i assume from that, also run bouldy keepsake

[slim lynx]

is boiling/abyssal blood disabled if i'm using the ice lasers or trippy shot?

[mighty ermine]

yes and yes

[obtuse stag]

thanks mate 🙂

[mighty ermine]

need a lodging cast for those to work

beams, trippy shot, slicing shot, and curse of drowning flood shot all can't lodge, and can't activate boiling/abyssal blood

[sullen valley]

Hm, Zeus Aid, Heaven's Vengeance, or Lightning Reflexes

All common, no modifiers other than jolted

[obtuse stag]

Where are you?

Like which Biome>

[sullen valley]

Last boon before the final boss.

Eh, this boon doesn't matter at all to me tbh

but just want a suggestion

[mighty ermine]

aid for sure

[obtuse stag]

Aid is always nbice if you dint already have one

[mighty ermine]

free extra burst every so often

[sullen valley]

Fair

[opal lodge]

aid is sick

also unlocks billowing

[sullen valley]

Somehow, call definitely helped. Literally saved my last life.

Good choice!

seriously though, Arthur or nothing.

[dawn geyser]

Never realized how good demeter's rarity boon is until just now

[sullen valley]

Attempts to use Companion on Skelly
Zagreus: "I wish."

[dawn geyser]

I thought it worked like aphropdite's flower

[sullen valley]

Oh yeah no Rare Crop is pretty damn good, especially if it's Epic

I wish you could get it to Heroic somehow, though...

[uncut matrix]

sup all, can somebody help me, im looking for builds, like top builds, can someone help me ?

[vale imp]

something easy and good is Eris with the Zeus attack

[uncut matrix]

nonono

i mean reaaly broken builds

something that you not expect

like gloves with multistrike

ares with staks and afro on mele

with theirs legs

[untold vortex]

there's not really a thing as a 'broken' build

[vale imp]

Yeah

[untold vortex]

there's builds that are quite powerful, but no isaac level breaking the game builds

[vale imp]

There's nothing really over-the-top-good in the game

[vale tapir]

I mean, the duo between Ares and Athena is pretty strong

[uncut matrix]

🙂 =(((

[vale imp]

and nothing really over-the-top bad either unless you're actively picking stuff like Rare Crop in Styx

[uncut matrix]

the thin is i can pick anything from anyone

[vale tapir]

if you have doom attacks/specials on | fists | then athena dash through targets, they melt

[untold vortex]

that requires merciful end

[uncut matrix]

and i found a little bug

[untold vortex]

and while incredibly powerful is harder to get than before 1.0

[uncut matrix]

can you deliver it to gamedevs ?

[untold vortex]

if you're playing on pc you can report bugs in game

[uncut matrix]

if it means anything

[untold vortex]

by pressing F10

[uncut matrix]

cant 😦

[untold vortex]

what is the bug?

[vale imp]

could try #h1-tech-support

[untold vortex]

I kinda wanna determine if it even is a bug first 😅

[uncut matrix]

so the bug is: when you take gera bow and load 3 'rounds' you shoot skelly and while rounds in him

you take another weapon and again hera bow

[untold vortex]

ahh, the bug where you can effectively load infinite bloodstones into skelly?

[uncut matrix]

load another 3 bullets and wait

yup

[untold vortex]

it's known and quite fun to pull off :3

has no negative effect on the game as far as I know

[vale imp]

oh huh, didn't know you could do that

[untold vortex]

yeah, I knew it was a thing, just wasn't sure how to do it

[uncut matrix]

i found it like today and thru it i can say it is harmless

cuz you cant leave this room with 'loaded' gun

[proven osprey]

Poor Skelly

[uncut matrix]

but yeah

skelly gone suffer

[untold vortex]

skelly is getting what he wants

[uncut matrix]

🙂 kinda 2020 job didn't you think ?

[proven osprey]

that's true

[gusty dagger]

Anyone know the interaction between hera bow and ravenous will? Do i instantly get the bonus damage if i load all my bloodstones into the bow?

[opal lodge]

yes

as long as your bloodstones read 0/X you get the rav will bonus

[uncut matrix]

my grammar is poor, sorry for that, not my language, but if there something that needed to be found in the game, that you can't find on licence, call me, i will help with pleasure.

[proven osprey]

english hard

[uncut matrix]

naa

it just lack of training

if i known correctly it mean like soft no

')

[proven osprey]

yeah

[uncut matrix]

russian is hard

я могу тебе это точно скакать

🙂

[obtuse stag]

are you russian then?

[uncut matrix]

yep

norilsk

google it

[obtuse stag]

i know this isnt really the place but do you know Little Big and/or The Hatters?

[uncut matrix]

cemetery is like 1\6 bigger then the city 🙂

[turbid needle]

hey, you guys should move to #off-topic-discussion

[uncut matrix]

not personaly but yea

sorry

[sullen valley]

Any Rama mains wanna tell me if I should get Chain Shot or Twin Shot?

Wait, if I get Twin Shot, would that just turn me into a melee build again?

Actually, the range reduction isn't bad!

[opal lodge]

twin

twin is the best or second best hammer on rama

[sullen valley]

Hm, Perfect Shot (Better Power Shot) or Relentless Volley (More Volley)?

[sonic flint]

Relentless Volley is the one i would choose

[untold vortex]

what'

what's your 3rd option @sullen valley

[sullen valley]

Repulse Shot

[untold vortex]

repulse shot imo

[sullen valley]

Repulse?

I remember it being "eh" imo, and someone else's

[untold vortex]

what are you building into now I think of it

[sullen valley]

I've got a really good Attack. Rare Demeter, Chaos Attack, Twin Shot...

Holy crap I don't have a lot of boons in Elysium.

[untold vortex]

repulse shot seems the best option out of the three then

[sullen valley]

Zeus on Special works really well, also

Hm...why's that?

[untold vortex]

the only thing I'm not sure on is how much faster perfect shots are on rama with the perfect shot hammer

I'm certain Tailesque would know though

[sullen valley]

The speed of the Power Shot time frame, right?

Hm, yeah I might go for Repulse Shot ig. I imagine Relentless Volley would also slow me down

plus the main guns is the Twin Shot Dem Attack, heehee

I ain't in the mood for science today.

[untold vortex]

relentless volley with zeus special seems like fun, since the internal cooldown is single target

[sullen valley]

Pfheh, ah well. Not focusing Special, that's my other excuse.

[untold vortex]

that's fair

[sullen valley]

I think if you're able to kill Theseus's Chariot in 3 Attacks...you're doing something right.

I just realized that the Macedonian(?) is the only Chariot to not make any feline sounds...I think.

I think I just scored a 1k crit on the Rat King

[proven osprey]

The classic would be Deadly strike for Heart rend (passion dash then)

You can also play a bit safer with an owl pendant strat and go for divine dash, and get a decent attack( aphro/athena/artemis)

Best hammer : Charged skewer (by far), Quick spin, Massive spin, Serrated Point (good damage, risky).
Classic charged skewer build : Heartbreak strike, Deadly Flourish to get Heart Rend. The other way around is fine too even though a bit less powerful.
Any special % boon is good with charged skewer, Artemis being the best since the crit scaling is amazing.
Spin builds : Divine strike, Deadly strike, Frost strike, Heartbreak strike are good.
Frost strike is a strong option since it’s safe.
Build around the first hammer you get. If it’s not a good one, Zeus is a great way to deal damage (attack, call + jolted).
When not on a spin build, spin between waves spawn and vs slow melee foes or where terrain allows you to (i.e pits).

Also, optimal dps rotation : special dash strike dash strike

Don't forget to cast too, you can burst down enemies that way, the cast is strong in early game

Like you can one combo pretty much everything in Tartarus except for armored foes

But a charged spin before their spawn into the combo deletes everything

Later on the cast is boiling blood in general

[sullen valley]

It's always unfortunate when you're watching your friend survive their first Asphodel encounter, survive a Treasure Trove, and then get punked by the magma next to the lil boats.

(My dude had like, 6 HP out of 100.)

[vague dove]

Is it possible to get duo boons in god trial ?

[untold vortex]

It's not possible, you can get legendary boons however

[vague dove]

Oh ok

Maybe should i reroll the room then

[dusty mango]

can i drop patrocle by doing a reroll in f3 ?

[proven osprey]

No sir

[dusty mango]

ty

[muted herald]

is it still possible to get butterfly stacks post-elysium

or does the maze just not offer any

[proven osprey]

possible in the last room of a tunnel

[muted herald]

eugh

snakes in all my last rooms

28% butterfly, all rooms cleared

time to kill hades without taking damage i guess...

[proven osprey]

good luck

[outer glacier]

How viable the full Ares build?

[fading garden]

For what weapon?

[outer glacier]

Shield or any ranged weapon.

[proven osprey]

full Ares?

Ares likes duo boons

[fading garden]

Well, applying doom on the special is not a bad thing to do.

[sturdy barn]

without duo boons he's very weak yeah, unless you get good rifts

GREAT rifts tho

and the legendary

[fading garden]

The special is kind of weak on the shield, so the doom can counteract that with big damage

[sturdy barn]

well ehhh kinda?

only on regular shield and beo

the other 2 shields its not that good, better to get either high damage or on hit on zeus

[fading garden]

Doom on chaos seems pretty decent, but definitely not on Zeus

[sturdy barn]

on the special?

[fading garden]

Yes...

[sturdy barn]

idk ive never used the chaos one but in theory it aint as good as damage

[outer glacier]

I also beat the last boss with full Ares build, thx for huge dot.

[sturdy barn]

i know its a REALLY fun build

yesterday i got a bunch of things that worked well with it and beat his 2nd phase in 3 of his attacks lol

well actually a few days ago

not yesterday

[fading garden]

Also, dire misfortune with impending doom is just a solid combination, no duo boons needed

[turbid needle]

what would you guys run for dio 8+ heat? i just honestly go for aspect of rama duo with ares but can't think of any other way, his DoT feels awkward to run smoothly

[fading garden]

DoT?

[turbid needle]

damage over time

hangover, that is

[regal garden]

just got hunting blades for the first time

[sturdy barn]

yeah, ive never gotten it to work

not in a fun way at least

[regal garden]

would have loved to get the artemis legendary with it

[fading garden]

For bow, chiron+hangover is a solid build

[regal garden]

but didnt manage to with luck

but it was still fun

[sturdy barn]

its so funnnn

[regal garden]

yeah

[sturdy barn]

now imagine that with ares leg

[regal garden]

really made the blade rifts shine

oh yeah

[sturdy barn]

and the other duo that is a split shot

[regal garden]

i got one ares boos to blades

and it was quite good

but i passed up on another one earlier on for the revenge so i could get the revenge boon

[sturdy barn]

:c

[regal garden]

overal very fun run i would go for hunting blades again

especially consideirng artemis and ares are two of my faves

[sturdy barn]

thank you for listening to me

its extremely fun

[regal garden]

yeah

[fading garden]

That with low tolerance on chiron bow is easy game

[regal garden]

even with black metal it was so good

[sturdy barn]

they said rama

[regal garden]

all worked well with nemesis the hunting blades

only 2 more duos to get for the prophecy now

[turbid needle]

hmm, I'll try it, dackid

thx

[outer glacier]

Tbh most of the gods gifts are works dope, except Afrodite and Athena IMO

[sturdy barn]

nah athena's is great with shield

you are garunteed to win even with a 0 damage build

but its just

so boring

[fading garden]

No, they said dio +8 heat and they found rama bow is the only thing working for them

[sturdy barn]

im probably an idiot and missread something then lol

sorry

[fading garden]

No worries

[fading garden]

If you can, try to get heartbreak strike on the attack. That makes it very easy to apply weak

There is also splitting headache, which is quite nice with pressure points

[sturdy barn]

heartbreak strike is great in general for bow so yeah thats a great plan

especially with arte dash for the higher dash damage that can make the run devolve into a strike spam

[fading garden]

I haven't done scintillating feast in a while, but that one seems fun

[regal garden]

arte dash worked very well with my last build

[sturdy barn]

so even if you dont get the duo you can do ok at least

[regal garden]

i now see

the error of my ways in dismissing it completely

[fading garden]

Yep. It's also a decent idea to get extra special damage from chaos if you can

[regal garden]

i see it can be used in specific circumstances to be very good

[sturdy barn]

yup

[regal garden]

like with a nemesis deadly strike build

[sturdy barn]

its amazing with high burst

exactly

[outer glacier]

Too defensive from my side. I prefer to keep distance and be in instant action.

[viral star]

sorry

wanyed to paste an image kejrgjreig

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/793601198736801802/796746225323999273/L49hb3MQ.png

there we go

[cunning urchin]

So . . . every .5 seconds 5 times?

[sturdy barn]

yeah fair enough, but im just sayin that its strong enough to where thats possible

[sturdy barn]

wat ._.

[regal garden]

holy

thats alot of dd

[sturdy barn]

and judging from the max hp this must be elysium at best lmao