and i really like shield and bow
#h1-discussion
pseudo kernel
brisk trail
its so gad damn easy
just doge and attack and then attack
auto aim with controller EZ
hot reef
i wish enemies couldn't proc the lucifer special
that's really irritating to me
i wanna set traps
brisk trail
i wish there was an weapon that had healing benefits built in
just like healers in other games
brisk trail
i'd say guan yu but
thats not what i meant
imagine if the aura of Arthur was a healing aura
thats what i mean
pseudo kernel
i wish there was an weapon that had healing benefits built in
just like healers ...
Fists?
hot reef
yknow what's funny, i really don't like spear all that much, can't play it very often but i got the most ridiculous build on it and it became my first win
š
pseudo kernel
i mean its a hammer upgrade but still
brisk trail
which one? am i blind?
hot reef
your special kills grant health if u get the right upgrade
brisk trail
i mean its a hammer upgrade but still
no no built in
sword has that too
hot reef
i think that'd be worse for the game personally but idk
don't like the thought of just being able to heal on the fly
brisk trail
don't like the thought of just being able to heal on the fly
yeah but when you are healing you do -80% damage
so its easily punishable
hot reef
if arthur's aura was a healing thing you could heal to full before you entered rooms
brisk trail
if arthur's aura was a healing thing you could heal to full before you entered r...
thats true but you can easily say you couldn't
ripe fossil
oops
ripe fossil
yknow what's funny, i really don't like spear all that much, can't play it very ...
but that's gold holy heck
pseudo kernel
man i am tryna do a run with random boons but its so difficult bc i am used to my ares boon and athena boon
hot reef
but that's gold holy heck
i was doing like 300% attack damage with the triple hit dash strike
ripe fossil
ironically i love the spear but i NEVER won a run with it after so many tries
hot reef
it's more fun in concept than actually playing to me
ripe fossil
it's only after i completed my first bow run and THEN i got my first spear run
hot reef
DYNO
brisk trail
favorite god?
based on boons not anything else(im talking to you simps)
hot reef
depends on what weapon im using
pseudo kernel
ares or dion
void vigil
jsyk, the bot will delete any messages that have swear words in them
brisk trail
ares or dion
mine is ares
hot reef
jsyk, the bot will delete any messages that have swear words in them
i could tell lol
pseudo kernel
and if aphro shows thats a party
ripe fossil
favorite god?
based on boons not anything else(im talking to you simps)
i've always liked the aphrodite boons, it's the first boon that granted me my very first win on redacted
hot reef
all around, it's athena/dionysus for me. divine dash has gotten me through so many rough goes of it, as well as strong drink
ripe fossil
carried hard with her legendary boon
pseudo kernel
aphro has so many good boons
pseudo kernel
but athena has good ones for beginners
brisk trail
the blades and the doom is just so satisfying as of gameplay
but if it was based on simp it was easily artemis for me
ripe fossil
if simp based dionysus and still aphrodite
high island
She is the main character, after all.
pseudo kernel
https://clips.twitch.tv/PeppyCloudySnoodDoggo-1SiN8wRSl3hsg9j8
So cute
hot reef
blade dash on gauntlets make you a whole other level of ridiculous
ripe fossil
is gauntlets a different term for one of the weapons
brisk trail
https://clips.twitch.tv/PeppyCloudySnoodDoggo-1SiN8wRSl3hsg9j8
what game is that?
hot reef
is gauntlets a different term for one of the weapons
the twin fists of malphon
ripe fossil
because i just remember them being sword, spear, shield, bow, fists and gun
ahhh i figured
high island
Lady Aphrodite is playing Transistor in that clip.
hot reef
brawlhalla player š
pseudo kernel
the blades and the doom is just so satisfying as of gameplay
but if it was based...
Funnily enough i hate the blades but just love getting high damage on my special with doom
ripe fossil
never tried much of fists but i remember loving the weapon as well
it's just the bow that i never really liked very much
brisk trail
it's just the bow that i never really liked very much
just try chiron with artemis and then judge
hot reef
if you want an easy ticket to the victory screen, get demeter's aspect to full and get an aphrodite or artemis flourish
you will one shot mostly anything
pseudo kernel
just try chiron with artemis and then judge
Yes yes yes
ripe fossil
just try chiron with artemis and then judge
i've already done a run with the chiron aspect
i won't lie, it was fun, but i stuck to the hidden aspect instead
pseudo kernel
if you want an easy ticket to the victory screen, get demeter's aspect to full a...
How would you do this withpout almost winning
at this point you kinda know what to do
brisk trail
i won't lie, it was fun, but i stuck to the hidden aspect instead
yeah rama fun too
getting high numbers is fun
hot reef
How would you do this withpout almost winning
what?
hot reef
i just couldn't understand š
for some reason the game loves giving the best daedalus hammers only on the first good run with a weapon
like the first time i properly used demeter's aspect, i had both things that upped special damage by 100%, so i was already +200% on special damage without boons
and i have never gotten either of those upgrades again
ripe fossil
sometimes my dd hammers just
fart
and break my runs sometimes
most times they carry me but it's mostly fart 
high island
Nah, but seriously if any of you wants to try an easy build, just copy this mirror setup and try to get these boons.
hot reef
charged shot and bull rush beowulf is just like a universal fast pass to the victory screen
high island
ripe fossil
boonless run huh
high island
GGs. Easy win.
high island
boonless run huh
My boonless mirrorless WR.
hot reef
boonless runs can sometimes be rendered impossible which sucks
ripe fossil
unless you have aspect of Arthurā¢ļø
fast willow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/782268720479207474/Had...
taking nectar into the winscreen is pretty funny
ripe fossil
i'm kidding i just really love aspect of arthur
hot reef
unless you have aspect of Arthurā¢ļø
no because of the chance one literally is your only option for a room
fast willow
also what does euridyce poms do on boonless
ripe fossil
no because of the chance one literally is your only option for a room
wait am i reading that right or am i having a stroke
void vigil
maxed fated authority helps with boonless probably
fast willow
does she give you 4x the money you get for picking up a pom when no boons
high island
You get .
pseudo kernel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/782268720479207474/Had...
I love this
hot reef
wait am i reading that right or am i having a stroke
like for example, the introduction asphodel room has a chance to only have a boon as the place to go
pseudo kernel
something about it is so satisfying
high island
no because of the chance one literally is your only option for a room
That's not a problem for the boonless leaderboard so long as you don't benefit from the boon. For example, if you get a Cast boon, you can't use your Cast. You can also purge boons that you find.
hot reef
ah, ah okay. so the goal is just. no boons used or no boons on hades?
ripe fossil
pseudo kernel
ah, ah okay. so the goal is just. no boons used or no boons on hades?
Yeah its next to impossible to do no boons in general like
how would you never get a boon
high island
For the leaderboard it's no boons used. If you just want the unique dialogue (and potentially the unique run clear message), then you can use boons in your run, but when you get to Hades, you can't have any purgeable boons.
Some boons are unpurgeable, it's fine if you have those.
But not for the leaderboard. Can't benefit from any boons at all for the leaderboard.
ripe fossil
i keep hearing about the leaderboard, is it just another term for the victory screen or?
is it an actual leaderboard
high island
There's a high heat leaderboard pinned in #h1-victory-boasting, and we also have challenge categories like boonless or mirrorless.
hot reef
i'd be really bad at a boonless because 1. i'm trash
but 2. i'd get a call boon thinking i can avoid using it and then as soon as "press RT to use greater call!" popped up my ape brain would activate and immediately hit it
ripe fossil
There's a high heat leaderboard pinned in <#725021639506526249>, and we also hav...
ahhhhhh i see, thank you
i wanna try boonless, i enjoy the game a lot
high island
i'd be really bad at a boonless because 1. i'm trash
but 2. i'd get a call boo...
Just unmap Call if you pick up a Call. That's what I did.
high island
Well, you can just go for it and level it up in the process.
ripe fossil
i could yeah! i'm going with aspect of Arthurā¢ļø because i love aspect of Arthurā¢ļø
hot reef
im still pained how ragged on im getting for liking the collar š it's just fun for being able to ignore hearts for a little bit
pseudo kernel
š
hot reef
200 base health with arthur is pretty ridiculous imo
high island
Ehhh.... play with whatever is fun for you.
hot reef
time to be tanky and be a literal wall towards redacted
THAT'S WHAT ARTHUR AND COLLAR DOES
hot reef
500 health on hades with any damage boons is great i love it
ripe fossil
time to play hades soon
void vigil
theres nothing wrong with playing any way that you like playing
pseudo kernel
No of course its all jokes
i just find it more interesting that anything i havent really thought of not using god keepsakes for an entire run
twin thistle
enemies also take no damage while youre in the call animation of ares because it has no damage 
hot reef
real footage of hades trying to kill me with arthur and collar ^^
twin thistle
enemies also take no damage while youre in the call animation of ares because it...
use athena or poseidon if you want i frames
high island
enemies also take no damage while youre in the call animation of ares because it...
Just like war. Nobody wins.
hot reef
Just like war. Nobody wins.
well... ares does
ripe fossil
https://tenor.com/view/mgrv-raiden-punching-armstrong-gif-24576818
that is a living tank
participating in this short discussion is giving me ideas on what to do next in the game aside from getting high heat and maxing everyone's hearts
pseudo kernel
does anyone like playing shield at all
ripe fossil
i do, sometimes
pseudo kernel
i starting to slowly like it its how i got my first win
hot reef
i'm sorry do you meet a lot of people who don't like shield?
it's like a universally loved weapon i thought
š
pseudo kernel
with a lil bit of ares on the special and extra bounces i am good
ripe fossil
i pop chaos aspect on it and run the sea storm build
and kind of laugh because the styx tunnels become so trivial with it
pseudo kernel
it's like a universally loved weapon i thought
Generally thought people dont like it š
pseudo kernel
and kind of laugh because the styx tunnels become so trivial with it
YEAH ITS WONDERFUL
hot reef
beowulf aspect š
ripe fossil
i will try the beowulf aspect soon
pseudo kernel
beowulf aspect š
I havent got it yet AAA
mint coral
Beobug good
ripe fossil
huh i thought the general consensus was that it's a really loved weapon as well (the shield)
which i kind of understand
shield kind of op in blocking almost all of your attacks
fast willow
does anyone like playing shield at all
yes
pseudo kernel
WHAT
all my friends hate
bc they say it sucks the fun out of the game
and i just here like are we playing the same weapon
ripe fossil
bc they say it sucks the fun out of the game
because they think it makes the game too easy because of its ability to block every attack?
fast willow
oneshotting all non boss enemies is funny.
ripe fossil
cmon i lost with the shield a few times too
pseudo kernel
because they think it makes the game too easy because of its ability to block ev...
YEAH
and being able to dodge all attacks with bullrush
ripe fossil
and basically just spam special (esp on chaos aspect) because 1. i love chaos' random commentary and 2. poseidon and zeus build just goes NUTS on every enemy
pseudo kernel
but ares build
ripe fossil
i have never tried an ares build on the shield yet
pseudo kernel
thats what i always go for and then try to get merciful end
ripe fossil
maybe soon
brisk trail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854767880159363154/951880402065317888/sword.png
i made the healing sword
pseudo kernel
its very fun
brisk trail
i know its trash just dont judge me
pseudo kernel
it looks cool
brisk trail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854767880159363154/951880402065317888/swo...
Aspect of Asclepius i would say
each time you kill and enemy it has a chance to create and aura that heals you for 20 health maybe?
pseudo kernel
man i am so glad other people like shield
and chaos Aspect too
i thought i was the only one
high island
I think all of the weapons can be fun.
pseudo kernel
yeah no for sure
high island
Which aspect?
ripe fossil
the bow itself
i had fun with rama and chiron but using the bow itself feels.....
i donno, i feel the urge to move around a lot
(not out of panic)
high island
Well, you'll want to do Dash-Strikes mainly rather than your normal standing Attack.
brisk trail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854767880159363154/951880402065317888/swo...
@hot reef
brisk trail
i donno, i feel the urge to move around a lot
you play on kbm?
icy knoll
is there ever a point to do the standing strike
ripe fossil
you play on kbm?
kbm yeah (assuming that means keyboard + mouse)
OK maybe i'll try doing more dash strikes and dash attacks once i open the game
brisk trail
kbm yeah (assuming that means keyboard + mouse)
then thats why
with controller it feels waaaaaay better
ripe fossil
i can imagine, doesn't the bow auto-aim for controllers and the switch?
high island
is there ever a point to do the standing strike
Mainly just if you don't have any Dash-Strike damage boons yet and can manage to time your normal standing Attack Power Shot with an enemy wave spawning in or a boss phasing.
brisk trail
i can imagine, doesn't the bow auto-aim for controllers and the switch?
it does
high island
So... extremely situational.
ripe fossil
ahhh OK i figured
brisk trail
and the game overall is better on controller
ripe fossil
i'll make do with kbm
high island
Well, some of the very best Hades players play on KBM. Use whatever works better for you or is more fun.
high island
Take care!
ripe fossil
brisk trail
Well, some of the very best Hades players play on KBM. Use whatever works better...
idk it literally says playing with controller is recommended
brisk trail
have a good one yall
polar marsh
Using a controller is optional its not recommended
twin thistle
kbm offers some advantages that matter for high level play
polar marsh
Controller is for simple people like us
high island
I mean the devs can recommend whatever they wish. I don't have to agree.
polar marsh
Tru
pseudo kernel
Yeah its whatever feels best
polar marsh
Hades did come out on the switch and pc first ye
pseudo kernel
there are trade offs to both tho like anything really
brisk trail
pseudo kernel
sure but that doesnt mean its best or worse
polar marsh
brisk trail
sure but that doesnt mean its best or worse
idk it just feels better
pseudo kernel
sure go ahead
brisk trail
more smooth
twin thistle
that subjective anyways
high island
That's personal preference, yeah.
pseudo kernel
yeah
twin thistle
the point is that some ppl have a better time on kbm
brisk trail
that subjective anyways
yeah but i just send that because
of
Using a controller is optional its not recommended
pseudo kernel
and some dont it is all just subjective what matters is that you have fun
polar marsh
Keyboard pressing intensifies
pseudo kernel
time to do a chiron run
brisk trail
time to do a chiron run
true chad
void vigil
ive never played hades with a controller because im just not as good with controllers as i am with kbm, and its controls just fine with kbm
signal aspen
Keyboard gud
brisk trail
ive never played hades with a controller because im just not as good with contro...
i see
i should not have judged
i just did one run with kbm
gray apex
kbm supremacy
signal aspen
brisk trail
I am not so good with Chiron
have you maxed it out?
brisk trail
no not yet
then pls do so
its very level dependent
gray apex
It's okay with Hangover at low levels
high island
Well, that would require winning a few runs first.
Yeah, Drunken Flourish is kind of the only sensible build on Chiron at low levels.
twin thistle
it works fine anyways
brisk trail
it works fine anyways
yeah fine
but really good at high level
high island
With any other Special boon tbh you're better off just ignoring your Special.
brisk trail
yeah fine
but really good at high level
i use that weapon a lot and i can really tell the difference
high island
Or I guess you could stack Chill on bosses as an alternative with Frost Flourish, but you'd still ignore your Special outside of boss fights.
twin thistle
MEron
high island
MEron <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
icy knoll
what are the most useless moves
i have a feeling standing bow attack is up there, same with sword hit 3
pseudo kernel
then pls do so
its very level dependent
What do yopu get when you level it up sorry cant really check bc i am mid run lol
icy knoll
you get more arrows for your special
twin thistle
what are the most useless moves
gilga special
icy knoll
zag shield special seems useless but maybe i'm just not using it correctly
signal aspen
It is
icy knoll
oh good
gray apex
brisk trail
What do yopu get when you level it up sorry cant really check bc i am mid run lo...
more arrows
icy knoll
how good is lucifer
it seems so awful and slow and bad, how does anyone win with it
twin thistle
just build it like eris
signal aspen
Luci is meh
reef zodiac
what are the most useless moves
ā¢ Sword neutral attacks (especially thrust)
ā¢ Zag and Hades spear special (no hammers)
ā¢ Zag shield special
ā¢ Standing attack on bow
ā¢ Zag & Hera bow special
ā¢ Every attack on Gilgamesh
high island
what are the most useless moves
1. f3 f6 are probably some of the most useless moves.
icy knoll
what
reef zodiac
how good is lucifer
it seems so awful and slow and bad, how does anyone win wit...
Itās actually perfectly decent. Almost definitely at least in the top 50% of aspects in the game
icy knoll
ah
devout terrace
ā¢ Sword neutral attacks (especially thrust)
ā¢ Zag and Hades spear special (no ha...
retrash disagrees with the 3rd
have you seen his 55
reef zodiac
I mean maybe itās usable with some hammers or specific boons but it really speaks to how bad it is when the aspect that lets you 6x your special is still bad
devout terrace
I mean maybe itās usable with some hammers or specific boons but it really speak...
https://youtu.be/ubt2jqFxZsE this run is so stupid
and I love it
reef zodiac
But also yeah nobody can stop Retrash from playing unconventionally and still winning
devout terrace
literal ap2 splitting bolt
signal aspen
Retrash moment
devout terrace
and a useless red double strike
twin thistle
retrash moment
spice scarab
Just out of pure curiosity wether the build is good or not but what is the highest achievable damage?
spice scarab
Then justā¦ idk highest damage build you guys know of?
reef zodiac
But if you want to see an example of how high damage can go, watch Vorimeās 2:48 routed Eris run
gray apex
Trippy Flare Beowulf probably has the highest ceiling that's reasonably achievable sometimes
which is pretty much phasing every boss
with 1 volley of casts
pseudo kernel
i have seen insane builds Vorime has one with Eris i think
reef zodiac
The actual ceiling would involve ichor stacking
reef zodiac
i have seen insane builds Vorime has one with Eris i think
The Eris route is nuts, yes
pseudo kernel
But if you want to see an example of how high damage can go, watch Vorimeās 2:48...
ā¦ as you can see someone knows it better than i
gray apex
yea that's routed
pseudo kernel
still
elfin sable
should I buy Hades on steam, I already have it on switch and beat the game?
reef zodiac
Go to the last time you asked this question and read the answers from there:
elfin sable
i couldn't find where i asked the question, thanks.
hot reef
Trippy Flare Beowulf probably has the highest ceiling that's reasonably achievab...
3.9k damage on trippy beowulf
for me at least
reef zodiac
Too many overlapping bugs that boost your damage
steady mica
i got the text "as the prophecy has foretold" (or something along these lines) for a sec after getting the wine god's boon
oblique isle
hades on em4 is way too hard šš
reef zodiac
I mean itās 4 heat for a reason
high island
Just out of pure curiosity wether the build is good or not but what is the highe...
Stack Stygian Shards, have dad run into one of his own traps in phase 2.
reef zodiac
In order to get hidden aspects, do I need to buy Guan Yu or just have it available?
high island
Just needs to be unlocked, no need to invest Titan Blood.
reef zodiac
Ok cool thx
Wait by unlocked you mean like visible? Because I said the phrase but havenāt actually bought it so itās technically ālockedā
high island
no need to invest Titan Blood
unborn root
i have a run with a complete build for zeus legendary and double strike wider lightning area and thunder cast all epic ranked on beowolf shield before the first boss
oh yea and the extra cast from chaos
and four shot first boss
and i got the piercing shot all shall die
modern hull
Is hera with only artemis aspects and mirage shot/true shot sounds good? I have already done a trippy shot build too many times
twin thistle
Is hera with only artemis aspects and mirage shot/true shot sounds good? I have ...
crush shot usually better
modern hull
Crush shot with what?
twin thistle
hera
modern hull
But what other boons lol
twin thistle
not really anything special. just pom it and grab the stuff you usually put on hera aka snow burst + extra cast damage and bloodstones
uh. and quickreload
but like not really crush shot specific to begin with. just pom the thing
modern hull
Oh ok ty
reef zodiac
Yeah I find it hard to justify using any cast beside crush shot on Hera
Crush Shot very good
twin thistle
phalanx is fun till the casts decide to end up on the other side of the room
reef zodiac
Phalanx is lower damage, smaller AOE, worse effect (deflecting at the end of your attack like that is not very useful), and harder to control
iron oyster
Speaking of builds, I donāt play bow much but I wanna try it out
Any Chiron builds out there?
gray apex
Any Chiron builds out there?
Drunken Flourish + pstatus -> low tolerance and maybe curse of nausea
Deadly Flourish + heartbreak strike -> heartrend (scales a lot with hammers and chaos)
Tempest flourish + zeus core (i like the call) -> sea storm (scales a lot with more zeus)
iron oyster
Drunken Flourish + pstatus -> low tolerance and maybe curse of nausea
Deadly F...
i'm very familiar with the 2nd one
it's literally the same one i use for sword
i didn't know it could be that good
brisk trail
iron oyster
oh god
brisk trail
Moreso on Nemesis
what the dumby flourish?
gray apex
No
The heartrend build mentioned above
Although Iād probably swap the cores or go for a slightly different build
Divine Flourish is too good on swords
You can go for Heartbreak strike + divine flourish + true shot which opens up both heartrend and dr
And you can go for Athena or Artemis dash afterwards
reef zodiac
But then youād have to run true shot
gray apex
You donāt prioritize it
reef zodiac
I know Iām kidding
gray apex
Just get attack then force Athena
reef zodiac
Better than base cast
gray apex
Itās a bit of a highroll
Since you need a few gods of your choice
In the right cores
solemn ermine
Hi there, i'm I the only one to have huge graphics bugs in asphodel ?
brisk trail
Well.... I play the pirated version sooo.... I never experience bugs
But never heard of bugs in hades
brisk trail
Hi there, i'm I the only one to have huge graphics bugs in asphodel ?
Try restarting your game
slim geyser
Hi there, i'm I the only one to have huge graphics bugs in asphodel ?
#h1-tech-support could help!
brisk trail
<:bouldy:523329116934635534>
slim geyser
why would you brag about playing a pirated version game in the games official server lol
brisk trail
Dw I have bought it on steam
I just prefer playing the pirated versions
Cause it kills all the bugs
brisk trail
The biggest benefit of playing pirated games it is, lad.
solemn ermine
I guess if you're on a clean version who will not update you won't have bugs
solemn ermine
But you won't have update news either
brisk trail
Not that i care
Plus it kills the drm
And drm creates bugs espeically denuvo
But denuvo is the hardest to crack (until empress came)
spare lotus
hades is drm free tho
modern hull
Cause it kills all the bugs
There are a lot of bugs in hades that you can take advantage of, mainly for beowulf
devout terrace
Pirating the game doesnt fix those lmao
median trellis
Don't you know that sailing the seven seas washes away all scurvy
pseudo kernel
Don't you know that sailing the seven seas washes away all scurvy
Hehe i like that joke too much it made me audibly laugh HHH
thorny estuary
anyone know how to fix a disappearing cursor?
spare lotus
use thanos gauntlet to snap it back into existence
thorny estuary
bruh moment
pseudo kernel
anyone know how to fix a disappearing cursor?
i am sure someone in #h1-tech-support could help
rich gulch
Has anyone perchance read the Lifeblood Anthology fanbook?
brisk trail
for lambent plume what time is considered "quickly"?
brisk trail
ohh ok that makes more sense. ive never touched it and considered using it
tribal sleet
it also varies based on what kinda chamber it is
rich gulch
I just threw a run by misjudging stepping on an island exit in Asphodel.
reef zodiac
A what
odd hatch
Does anyone know exactly how God Mode interacts with Hard Labor? I maxed out God Mode at 80% reduction, and Iāve been weaning myself off it by increasing Hard Labor. Or so I thought.
Itās gotten easy for me to beat a run with Hard Labor at 80%. I assumed that was equivalent to turning off God Mode, except for traps/lava/etc.
But now that Iāve actually turned God Mode off, it feels like Iām taking a ton more damage (at 0 heat). I know that stuff like [REDACTED]ās vases count as traps. But I just lost 2 DDs to Asterius solo miniboss, which hasnāt happened to me in ages with God Mode 80% reduction and Hard Labor 80% increase (plus other Pact conditions like EM3!)
Are there a lot of attacks that donāt get damage increased by Hard Labor? Or does the 80% decease + 80% increase not actually cancel out? Iām enjoying the challenge, but Iām just wondering whatās going on
high island
+80% from HL4 is 180% damage from foes. With 80% damage reduction, you're only taking 20% of that damage. So the damage you're taking with HL4 and maxed god mode is 36%.
So an attack that would do 40 damage normally (e.g., Hades's spins) will do 72 damage if you have HL4 on... but if you have HL4 + maxed god mode, then the spin will only do 14 damage.
base_damage * (1 + bonus_damage) * (1 - damage_reduction)```Ohh that explains why the HL level increases felt so easy š¤¦š»āāļø I must have gotten confused because the majority of percentages in the game are additive
reef zodiac
Yeah using HL and god mode doesnāt really make a whole lot of sense to me
high island
It's also what makes Weak so very strong at high heat with HL5.
odd hatch
Yeah using HL and god mode doesnāt really make a whole lot of sense to me
God mode at 80% is way too easy for me now. So I wanted to try and wean myself off it slowly. I saw that SGG suggested HL for people who wanted a custom god mode dmg reduction https://twitter.com/SupergiantGames/status/1314686069544165377
brisk trail
yo does the boon from chaos that grants you an extra death defiance go to waste if you haven't used any of your 3 or do you get a 4th?
reef zodiac
Well yeah 80% god mode is meant to be extremely easy
gray apex
yo does the boon from chaos that grants you an extra death defiance go to waste ...
You get a 4th
brisk trail
ah cool ty
reef zodiac
Taking 8 damage from a Hades spin is just kinda comical tbh
gray apex
reef zodiac
Thatās why I personally advise against god mode for people who want to play the game for a long amount of time since it can kinda ruin the challenge and become a crutch that you then need to complete relearn how to play without
brisk trail
The only thing I don't like it's that sometimes it feels like a button masher
gray apex
I like Hades
I have like 1100 hours on it
If you need some tips you can check the pins in #h1-for-new-players
reef zodiac
The only thing I don't like it's that sometimes it feels like a button masher
What weapon are you using?
brisk trail
But the overall game is amazing
brisk trail
What weapon are you using?
I like the punch thingy and the sword
reef zodiac
Have you won a run yet?
reef zodiac
Then I suggest trying to be more strategic with your button inputs and not mashing
brisk trail
The chamber whit the clocks
I like the hammer because it can give you a passive that gives you healt if you beat up people
reef zodiac
brisk trail
It's like mega op
gray apex
Most people like that one
high island
@odd hatch something that might be good practice is doing runs with the Pierced Butterfly. It will encourage you to avoid taking damage altogether in encounters, so you'll focus more on that. And that should help you become more comfortable without god mode.
brisk trail
I got it like on the 5 run
reef zodiac
It's like mega op
Not sure if Iād necessarily say that
brisk trail
And I got to the third boss
devout terrace
I like Hades
I have like 1100 hours on it
I dont like hades
brisk trail
And cronos didn't react at all
reef zodiac
Who
brisk trail
Like I beat the hidra
For the first time in that run
And also meg
And nobody reacted
reef zodiac
Who is cronos
brisk trail
And then when I beat the hydra for the first time cronos was like cool dude
reef zodiac
What
high island
Hypnos.
brisk trail
Yea him
high island
The God of Sleep.
brisk trail
Yes him
reef zodiac
Heās kinda a background character btw
brisk trail
The best keep safe is the dog one
reef zodiac
Mmm
brisk trail
I also like skelly smelly tooth
reef zodiac
Canāt agree with you there
high island
Cronos was the leader of the titans. Very different guy.
brisk trail
Skelly is cool
Best character
And I also like poisedon
Even if he sounds like he is going to beat me up
reef zodiac
Btw this channel has spoilers very often. #h1-for-new-players is the spoiler-free channel
brisk trail
I don't really care about the story
odd hatch
<@!399416034425307137> something that might be good practice is doing runs with ...
Thatās great advice, I have been doing that on some runs and I think that plus Guan Yu runs have made me better at dodging when Iām actually concentrating. Like I can beat the game without god mode, so I must have improved a bit somewhere along the line. I was just surprised by the damage because I made the wrong assumptions about HL
brisk trail
I arrived to a part were the dog blocks the path
And then I died because a rat bit me and poisoned me
spark lintel
yeah i have no dialogue left with nyx
twin thistle
has she told you the contract location?
brisk trail
i really wish theyd get rid of the bright light for athenas call. its such a pain using it with the bow at close range
rich gulch
Blood and darkness.
cloud juniper
Today I got to the second round of the final boss. He demolished me. I had the fists with a bunch of goodies, the fists are very fun to use. I think Iām getting a grip on this game pretty quickly.
inland shell
How can we get the Zag nendriod after the preorder period?
brisk trail
Yummy pizza
unborn root
how do i trigger the astereus mini boss fight
also why is my hades not getting past the first loading screen the one where you first open the game
like the bar just slowly stops
reef cypress
how do i trigger the astereus mini boss fight
Youāll occasionally walk into a room with Asterius standing alone. Heāll then fight you. If I remember correctly, youāve got to reduce his health to half of its start and heāll concede.
unborn root
yea but i keep on getting butterfly for the mini boss room and i have had this happenb 5 plus times in a row
rapid forum
it's RNG
unborn root
also does it have to be with golden armor or any goes for the fist aspect
rapid forum
I think anything goes
rapid forum
what are first four again?
unborn root
any other rec?
unborn root
how possible is it to get elysium normally
wait doesnt it share the problem with charons?
or is it just a bit more spaced out
rapid forum
it ricochets, hitting multiple enemies
unborn root
hera cast right?
unborn root
also does mirage shot work with ares cast?
unborn root
ok so ima go make a chainsaw of blood brb
rapid forum
have fun 
unborn root
hehe always a fav build right
reef zodiac
or is it just a bit more spaced out
I also suggest using the attack because it is very strong. Donāt ignore it just because special can carry
unborn root
nah that next run
reef zodiac
If youāre doing Hunting Blades, use an aspect that increases the damage of your cast. Like Achilles
unborn root
im doing poseidon
reef zodiac
Use lodging casts with Poseidon
unborn root
ah does achilles have more dmg i forgor
reef zodiac
Achilles does hunting blades exactly 3x as well as Poseidon
Pos is +50%, Achilles is +150%
unborn root
is it? i have around 70 runs so far and only like 35 actual runs the rest were scum reset runs bc i needed hidden aspect
reef zodiac
I mean idk I guess my view of it is skewed since I usually start streaming around 5 runs into making a new file so I max things out pretty quick
unborn root
also i got the number from steam so i have spent a lot of time just chatting with hades open
rapid forum
you need 15 titan blood to get it and max it. Assuming you're climbing heat after every run (and succeed), that means 2 titan bloods each run. You need around 7 runs and a half to max it.
not to mention the fated list
and broker
rapid forum
understandable
unborn root
i had it before my file got corrupted but i never really used it want to give it a fair chance
unborn root
gil not good?
reef zodiac
- Itās bad
- The level does very little to nothing
The only good thing about Gil is the dashes, you probably wonāt even want to use the maim. So at most youāll want to spend 3 titan blood to buy it
unborn root
what does lucifer do and where do i get it from?
rapid forum
I think zeus
reef zodiac
Pins in #h1-story-discussion
reef zodiac
And Luci is decent. Pretty fun imo
unborn root
so fun
rapid forum
zeus works on most rail
reef zodiac
Iād argue that Zeus is kinda the only good option for Luci attack
unborn root
also i think i unlocked the nickname for lernie like 5 runs ago
iron oyster
I wonder if thereās a hitless hades run
iron oyster
also i think i unlocked the nickname for lernie like 5 runs ago
Same
reef zodiac
I wonder if thereās a hitless hades run
There are many
I did one
Like last week
iron oyster
How about with heat
unborn root
yea im guessing they use the acorn
reef zodiac
No
iron oyster
No, not damageless, literally hitless
reef zodiac
Yeah literally hitless
iron oyster
If you want hitless, I think pierced butterfly is the way
iron oyster
Oh
reef zodiac
Way better to just make a build
iron oyster
Well Iām dumb
reef zodiac
Itās just a garbage keepsake tbh
iron oyster
Never used it
unborn root
is plume good
reef zodiac
Even for hitless runs itās unviable, thatās how you know itās bad
reef zodiac
is plume good
reef zodiac
2-3%?
iron oyster
Ok yeah
reef zodiac
Yeah Iāll pass
iron oyster
Pretty crap
reef zodiac
Would rather use hourglass
devout terrace
You forgor
reef zodiac
How?
unborn root
because it can just ditch you and go to the lava
reef zodiac
Power couple ez
unborn root
and it always appears WHEN IM DOING A ARES CAST RUN
iron oyster
You forgor<:shadegrief:520448187358642194>
I forgor
reef zodiac
Easy target
unborn root
goes to the edge of the damn map
reef zodiac
How
unborn root
idk IT JUST DOES
unborn root
i like them as well as long as it is not ares
devout terrace
But it makes power couple move WAY slower
iron oyster
I hate witches circle because I actually donāt know how to pick them off without taking gobs of damage
reef zodiac
I had to develop a strategy for my hitless runs
I dash over to the closest one, try to kill it as fast as possible with empowered shots, then I meg as soon as the projectiles from the others are about to hit me. Then Iām safe from their projectiles since my attack gets rid of them
iron oyster
I donāt do ranged well
reef zodiac
Became 100% consistent once I figured out I could do that
reef zodiac
Maining what
reef zodiac
Which aspect
iron oyster
Chiron, actually
Ik Hera is meta and all that
But I think Chiron would be easier to use
reef zodiac
???
How is Hera meta
Meta in what context
Do you just say that because it has the anyheat wr
Because Iāve never heard anyone call Hera meta
iron oyster
Do you just say that because it has the anyheat wr <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Ok, I meant that it scales better with heat? Idk actually
reef zodiac
No no no
iron oyster
Like I said, I never use ranged
reef zodiac
Hera scales so bad with heat
iron oyster
I know nothing about bow
reef zodiac
Itās genuinely one of the worst 50+ heat aspects in the game
Rama scales incredibly with heat
Where did you get the idea that Hera was meta?
iron oyster
Friend who probably was trolling
iron oyster
~~Although apparently so is Rama~~
Didnāt someone get a wr for 60 heat with Rama?
It was that an old record
reef zodiac
Wym
Whatās āwr for 60 heat with Ramaā mean? Like the fastest 60 heat Rama run? Or the first 60 heat Rama run
Because people donāt speedrun heat that high
50 heat is the highest heat SRC category
unborn root
isnt the one that makes you complete each area in a set amount of time one of the more annoying heat thingy
reef zodiac
God no
Free heat
TD3 is the easiest 6 heat you will ever get by far
It gets tough in combination with a ton of other pacts but itās still 6 heat
reef zodiac
Google it idk
unborn root
theseus is by far the worst character
rapid forum
I wouldn't call him the worst
sure, he's annoying smug face bastard that I will no doubt punch irl.. wait
unborn root
i mean like who is more annoying than him
reef zodiac
Aphrodite š
unborn root
but does she treat one of the best character imo like a piece of trash
reef zodiac
I was joking because a regular of this server (Nyaanyaa Mewmew) really likes Aphrodite
I donāt have an opinion on any of the characters tbh
stoic kiln
slim geyser
theseus is by far the worst character
facts
like is he hilarious and written incredibly well? yes
do i want to beat him every time i enter elysium? yes
wind goblet
How does the Sisyphus keepsake work exactly
gray apex
How does the Sisyphus keepsake work exactly
It buffs your attack special cast if theyāre not empowered by a boon
gray apex
Well not necessarily
reef zodiac
So it's pretty good if i invest most of my boons on one thing
I definitely would not say that
Shackle is not worth using at low-mid heat
wind goblet
Okay
reef zodiac
Shackle is for boonless runs and AP2 RI2 high heat runs
devout terrace
Boonless ap2
wind goblet
Shackle is for boonless runs and AP2 RI2 high heat runs
I will pretend I understand that
reef zodiac
Basically donāt worry about it until at least 50 heat
modern hull
Is it possible that gods dont want to offer priority boons (Attack, special, cast, and dash) ? My first boons for the past 5 runs were special, cast, and something else. I didnt even get an attack boon offer until late asphodel and i had to reroll even then
reef zodiac
Donāt want to?
No
Priority boons are more likely to show up
In fact
Every boon menu is guaranteed to offer at least one unless youāre slots are full
reef zodiac
No lmao
That would be so stupid
Itās just your first boon thatās guaranteed to be all priority boons
iron oyster
That would be so stupid <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
And painful
I donāt think the first boon can be call though
reef zodiac
No it canāt
iron oyster
Wait thatās not priority
reef zodiac
Call is not a priority boon, yeah
rotund galleon
is holding with Flurry slash better than normal attacking?
I cannot seem to realize
raw herald
rotund galleon
it seems you auto dash strike while holding attack and dash
dusky wedge
How easy (or hard?) it is to play with bow on PC, with KBM? It is easier on KBM or controller? Or itās the same no matter which?
hot reef
Controller has aim assist if i recall
dusky wedge
Yeah, but a mouse also provides a more precise aim, no?
signal aspen
and definitely dont get flurry shot
gray apex
How easy (or hard?) it is to play with bow on PC, with KBM? It is easier on KBM ...
It's harder than controller but it's fine
dusky wedge
Why and why for both of the statements?
dusky wedge
So, itās like ātrying to get used to a different controller schemeā type of thing?
signal aspen
yeah
dusky wedge
Understood
rotund galleon
does flash fire cut down the wind up speed?
hardy ferry
I thought controller's advantage was precise movement and kbm's was precise aim but all of the top speedrunners are using a controller
fast willow
How easy (or hard?) it is to play with bow on PC, with KBM? It is easier on KBM ...
rama is fine, chiron and zag are alright, hera is quite hard
easier on controller
rotund galleon
Rama has the perk of looking the best too
dull niche
I thought controller's advantage was precise movement and kbm's was precise aim ...
fwiw there are still a lot of top runners who use kbm, and it has definitely seen good success. controller is just generally more preferred
icy knoll
charged special shreds
rich gulch
First time Cerberus directly lost me the run. I always thought the bottom right corner is safe in his rush, but alas didn't dash quick enough and dad came in with the spear throw.
signal aspen
just dont get hit 
crude surge
Pause buffering comfy
crude surge
Do you do trippy for three flare 50
reef zodiac
any opinions on demeter fists?
Best fists, still a bad aspect
devout terrace
Do you do trippy for three flare 50
Yeah
Only time I cleared it is with what mike said
Phalanx was 19 minutes igt
crude surge
devout terrace
I remember one time I had a 3 stone mirage trippy flare
Then died on passion
Lol
gray apex
pseudo kernel
man this game i just got 2 duos and i have to pick why does it hate me so
unborn root
OOOOOOOF
reef zodiac
man this game i just got 2 duos and i have to pick why does it hate me so
Thatās always great wym
One is better than the other surely
Be glad that you got the option to pick
pseudo kernel
after looking at it i felt more lucky than unlucky
bc the other option was having no duos
reef zodiac
More choices > Less choices
devout terrace
man this game i just got 2 duos and i have to pick why does it hate me so
Is approval process good by this logic
reef zodiac
plucky galleon
man this game i just got 2 duos and i have to pick why does it hate me so
what are duos ? š
pseudo kernel
cant even remember i- i have just forgor brain sometimes
mint coral
what are duos ? š
duo boons are boons offered sometimes when you have certain boons from 2 gods
plucky galleon
duo boons are boons offered sometimes when you have certain boons from 2 gods
ohhhhhh
so itās luck if you get one that is a duo with another ?
mint coral
there are a lot of ways to increase your chances to see duos
plucky galleon
oh damn
mint coral
also need to know the requisites for one in 1st place
plucky galleon
there are ways to see possible duos ?
mint coral
Codex upgrade
plucky galleon
idk what requisites means iāll be honest but im guessing
mint coral
lets you see all the boons from a god and what you need to get them
plucky galleon
Codex upgrade
is that ingame?
mint coral
ye
mint coral
i never remember the requisite but it appears as a work order at some point
plucky galleon
ah
mint coral
codex is from achilles (upgrade at work order)
plucky galleon
oh ok ty lol
thatās gonna help alot ig
so im assuming duo boobs are much more affective ? or at least have another secondary power or smth
plucky galleon
oh ok
abstract epoch
so i've completed a run 3 times now
still not sure if i want to do whatever is the amount of the proper ending
not to mention beating dada at the end pretty much requires getting the right weapon upgrades and boons
i mean it's probably doable with none of that, but you have to be good at the game
reef zodiac
i mean it's probably doable with none of that, but you have to be good at the ga...
There you go, you figured it out
abstract epoch
i still beat it in less than 20 attempts but i'd say that was due to RNG
got the best upgrades and good boons
twin thistle
getting a good build becomes very independent of rng once you get experience, especially when you add in mirror upgrades
abstract epoch
suppose so
as is i'm only consistent at beating hades if i use the bow and get rapid shot + triple shot(though i can do it without)
attack speed up from hermes also makes your bow a machine gun
the laser upgrade from demeter for your cast is pretty ridiculous vs bosses
twin thistle
the solution to that is probably getting good at dashing and powershotting
abstract epoch
only hades attack i have trouble evading is his spin2win
you can't dodge too early is what i'm guessing
twin thistle
yeah it has quite the long wind up
abstract epoch
the lackeys he summons are always random i assume as well
cloud juniper
Yo how do you get a Stygian Soul?
reef zodiac
Empty dash during his spin
cloud juniper
What do you mean by that?
reef zodiac
Dash without attacking
abstract epoch
was talking to me i assume
reef zodiac
Yeah
abstract epoch
i need to try the shield and spear anyway
reef zodiac
Shield is amazing
cloud juniper
Lowkey it is.
I also now need to plan what to do now that it took me 27 attempts to beat Hades, and this my first time playing the game. Do you unlock anything new after you beat him multiple times?
abstract epoch
more dialogue lol
cloud juniper
Thatās it, wtf
I thought ya know I would unlock more stuff. I guess I can defeat Hades with each Infernal Arms.
cloud juniper
Yeah I saw that part
reef zodiac
Thatās what you get
cloud juniper
Ok thanks
abstract epoch
i was thinking you'd have to beat all 3 furies if you got them at once
shame
still haven't beaten hades with the sword, i still am not sure which upgrades and boons to go for
cloud juniper
I mean Iām with ya. But with the Copex at my disposal that shouldnāt be a problem
abstract epoch
i want to at least try and beat beardy with all the weapons
not just resort to the bow
main crescent
fun fact that is his moustache
and I don't know if that makes it more or less glorious
abstract epoch
missing accessories and i'm curious who from
2 to be precise
unless hades gives you one, which i doubt
main crescent
can't even give ambrosia to him 
abstract epoch
well you can once, then it's locked until whatever triggers it
abstract epoch
nectar being the common gift, right
main crescent
yees
slim geyser
yeah
ambrosia is the fancy version which you can give to most characters after the lock is open
abstract epoch
i've just been holding on to them for now
slim geyser
yeah thatās a good plan
out of curiosity who are you interested in maxing bonds with
abstract epoch
no one yet, i've gotten everyone to +1 bond
i think everyone anyway
still missing 2 accessories hence my confusion
slim geyser
one will stay a mystery till you beat the game
where is the other one? like what keepsakes are next to it
slim geyser
eventually yeah
abstract epoch
i still haven't met a character i think, but i may be mistaken
slim geyser
oh?
abstract epoch
ok so
i'm missing the last accessory
oh nvm
i forgot to give aphrodite a nectar
abstract epoch
i mainly used the acorn to avoid taking needless hits
slim geyser
yeah
iām a fan of acorn too
eurydice was the first character i maxed my bond with btw i l o ve her
main crescent
i love when he hrrrrrgghhhh...
reef zodiac
What
main crescent
you know, basically his only line in the game 
oblique isle
yeah but the urrrnnggghhhh hits diff
abstract epoch
that was bizzare
first time using the shield
lost a DD on the duo and thought i did poorly in general
still beat hades
didn't even have any great boons either
then again i got a boon that made projectiles slower, not sure which god from
mint coral
duo boon of Dio-Athena
abstract epoch
i have a new strat for hades well
any time he runs towards you, just dodge past him
he'll have harder time trying to melee you
signal aspen
Damn I should start doing that
abstract epoch
har har
reef zodiac
Lmao
abstract epoch
well one thing i learned
unlike most projectiles in the game that reflect back at whatever shot them
the bombs hades uses won't unless you deflect as soon as he starts the animation
reef zodiac
?
Oh you mean it wonāt hit him?
Yeah the thing youāre deflecting there isnāt actually his cast, itās the attack of him throwing it. So thatās why itās deflectable
abstract epoch
mmkay
just found it odd
wasn't sure which weapon upgrade to go with, so i picked the change normal attack to a projectile
reef zodiac
You mean bull rush into a projectile?
abstract epoch
that, i think
reef zodiac
CShot best hammer
abstract epoch
guess it helped i once again got hermes attack speed up