#h1-discussion

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weary jackal
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BFG Division

whole ridge
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Ye that

alpine cobalt
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Yeah I think it's all about theme of where you are at in the game when said song plays personally

whole ridge
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But all in all I agree it didn't deserve the reward due to somewhat homogenous, although extremely fitting score

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Also if doing a run with Than's trinket, if ya encounter Than is it worthwhile to just hide and let him kill everything for the +2?

weary jackal
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If Darren and Mick Gordon ever met I fear that the world would not be prepared

alpine cobalt
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I'll say this Halo infinite about to win best soundtrack lol

brisk trail
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one of the songs from hades gave me this doctor who vibe, but i can't remember which one it was

whole ridge
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Honestly Halo music always is a bomb, and it seems 343 finally got outta the awkward phase of picking up a famed franchise

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We'll see though

weary jackal
whole ridge
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Also props to Microsoft for delaying Infinite for a year

brisk trail
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you can def just slowplay with than trinket

whole ridge
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If I recall it originally was supposed to be a launch title for the Series X

alpine cobalt
whole ridge
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But will it be LASO?

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XD

alpine cobalt
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Lol I just think the music will be like how 1-3 was and that's what we all wanna hear

whole ridge
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Microsoft has the money to be able to push titles off like that, other studios may not

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I honestly never had issues with 4

alpine cobalt
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Yeah like Fable being pushed back

whole ridge
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Still yet to play 5 tho

alpine cobalt
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4 is a good game just mid story

whole ridge
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I'm a tad concerned about Fable all things considered, but it's a cautiousness due to not thinking one can easily recreate what the original long dead studio managed

alpine cobalt
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5 has multiplayer potential ( outside of awful mechanics) with a horrible story

whole ridge
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I just love the "how Chief v Locke actually would go" memes

alpine cobalt
whole ridge
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That makes me a bit more wary, it wasn't a game meant to have more realistic looks.

alpine cobalt
whole ridge
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I mean, his feats are a bit over the top in the books to be fair.

alpine cobalt
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There's no telling how it's gonna look yet cause they aren't ready to show a thing lol

whole ridge
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I mean, didn't they do an open beta recently?

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For the multi-player at least

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Oh sorry you mean Fable not Halo xD

alpine cobalt
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Yeah lol I maybe should have been more clear

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My apologies

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Yeah Fable is getting the engine that Forza has

whole ridge
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Also wow this discussion got derailed from Hades pretty hard xD

alpine cobalt
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Lol it happens when you talk about video games you like

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You kinda just go down a rabbit hole

weary jackal
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How did a conversation of best soundtrack eventually end up with Fable

alpine cobalt
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I apologise for going off topic

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And tbh that's kinda what happens with me allot lol I can be talking about one thing and end up talking about something completely unrelated

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Can kinda blame my ADD for that

whole ridge
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Because it got to Halo which then lead to Fable because Microsoft

alpine cobalt
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Yus

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Yeah I mentioned how Halo infinite gonna win soundtrack of the year

whole ridge
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But anywho. I'm probably gonna make the dive and do Hades some.

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And I mean, don't think there's a whole lotta competition for games this year anywho

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Unless I'm forgetting stuff again

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Oh wait

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Dread! Dread comes out soon!

alpine cobalt
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Alright well I hope you have fun then :)

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I did have most fun talking with you

whole ridge
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Metroid Dread!

alpine cobalt
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Ah yeah people seem to be excited for it

whole ridge
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You should look into the history, it's actually much longer than one would think.

alpine cobalt
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I'm a Pokemon nerd _ as you can see_

wise oasis
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Lost a death defiance cuz I fished on lava GangSunglasses

granite ether
wise oasis
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I am now opening a hades c oaching service

whole ridge
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You what? XD

whole ridge
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Why

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Why would ya fish on lava xD

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"You may be fire resistant my prince but you aren't fire proof"

wise oasis
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My foot was over the edge, and I thought itd be fine because boons and such make you immune while you're picking them up

alpine cobalt
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I haven't gotten to be able to fish yet

whole ridge
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Also how long until he starts being called Lerny

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The Hydra

wise oasis
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Eventually zag nicknames him it

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Im not sure if its random or based on a certain number of clears

hollow void
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Does anyone know where the monthly challenge is posted?

alpine cobalt
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Welp I hope y'all have fun :) I wish y'all the best

whole ridge
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I can consistently reach Elysium so that sounds nice

hollow void
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Ah thanks

wise oasis
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there hasnt been one since june though

hollow void
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Huh

whole ridge
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And ye, I'm gonna do the rail gun again now knowing Zeus booms are the way with it's attack

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Well first I'm gonna get the fated list for using all keepsakes (minus last)

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Just got two more God ones to go

azure osprey
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Does zag go to the bathroom

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I wonder if anyone in the game pees

weary jackal
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Is there ever a given reason as to why Zag has red blood?

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There’s a reason I think might be why but it only makes half sense

wise oasis
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Id say its cuz of the hemoglobin

weary jackal
wise oasis
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I just reached hades, gonna pay closer attention and see what color his is, Im pretty sure he has cuts all over him when he dies

weary jackal
# lone tree I'm curious

||Achilles theorises that Zag is the god of blood, and by extension life. So maybe being god of blood, he’s got relatively special biology.||

wise oasis
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Zag is the god of blood, he says so himself after one of the hades open screen thingies

lone tree
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So if possible Zagreus could bleed ichor too?

wise oasis
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hades has like an anime blood burst thing when he dies, seems to be pretty red to me

weary jackal
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Yeah but when you hit him doesn’t he bleed black?

wise oasis
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oh seems so

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not sure then

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looks black

weary jackal
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Unplayable, fix ur game /s

lone tree
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Since there are two types of gods in hades (cthonic and olympian) is it possible that the two bleed different types of ichor?

hollow hawk
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zag has mortal blood

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which is why theres a line in an intro cutscene that says "fling your blood at me like that again and ill have you cast into the styx, where you can drown in it"

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and since styx has red, mortal blood

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it is implied that zagreus does too

hollow hawk
wise oasis
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He does, he's under chthonic gods in the codex

lone tree
hollow hawk
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well in hades the video game, we dont see any olympian god bleed

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so we cant know for sure

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but zagreus bleeds red, and hades bleeds black

weary jackal
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I wish the entire Greek pantheon was in Hades, I wanna see some fire boons or something from Hestia or Hephaestus

hollow hawk
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would be fun indeed yeah

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but would probably be overwhelming tbh

lone tree
hollow hawk
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8 seems like a good number to strike

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perhaps we can hope for mods to add such things

lone tree
hollow hawk
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what boons would Khronos have?

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would he be like chaos?

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where hes not really a part of the olympian boon pool, just a seperate eternal entity

chrome wharf
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Isn't Khronos the god of harvest

hollow hawk
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nope

lone tree
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For example, his call could slow down time (but not you) and you could dash away from a tight spot

hollow hawk
hollow hawk
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could be pretty clutch for high heat runs or runs where youre out of time

chrome wharf
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In Athens, on the twelfth day of the Attic month of Hekatombaion, a festival called Kronia was held in honour of Cronus to celebrate the harvest, suggesting that, as a result of his association with the virtuous Golden Age, Cronus continued to preside as a patron of the harvest. 

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from Wikipedia, so maybe both

hollow hawk
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you can just reduce the timescale

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though, reducing it tends to have weirds effects sometimes

lone tree
lone tree
lone tree
whole ridge
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And I have been slain to Charon's wrath

rapid forum
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ah yes

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the mighty oar

weary jackal
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I really wish there was like a tiny chance of when you get hit by the oar for a bonk sound effect to play

rapid forum
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Modders: write it down, WRITE IT DOWN

whole ridge
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Like, yeesh, he's brutal.

weary jackal
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Man’s really protective of his pot’a gold

arctic oasis
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do any of you guys buy music to play in the house of hades

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or should I save my diamonds

whole ridge
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Okay xD

rapid forum
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I traded my diamonds for ambrosia

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iircc

stoic flame
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i dont think there is anything left to do with my diamonds anymore except rank and music

rapid forum
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I still have some diamonds

whole ridge
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I also liked how instead of Hypnos giving you trouble it's Hades getting a laugh out of you stealing then dying to Charom

stoic flame
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i have like 15 on me rn

rapid forum
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but they're like.. 4

stoic flame
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collecting some darkness

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for the rank

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actually no

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im gonna skip i want that theme

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chaos one

whole ridge
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Like, it was nice hearing him give what sounded like a legitimate laugh. And Zag in that case actually deserved the scolding xD

rapid forum
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I've never died to charon

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at least the runs where I fought him

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I never died squirtdevious

whole ridge
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I admittedly didn't have a very great set up and had heat 2 with health boosted up by 30%

stoic flame
whole ridge
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RNG gave me enough to make it through Elysium, but I doubt I'd have beaten Daddy

stoic flame
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when i fought him the first time he absolutely folded me

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and this wasnt even early game

whole ridge
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I got him down to 25% tho

stoic flame
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this is after the epilogue

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i hate when he releases his purple farts or whatever from himself

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if ur melee ur ded af

weary jackal
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The wretched broker is selling a diamond for 100 gems
I have 98
Pain.

rapid forum
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F

stoic flame
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rip

weary jackal
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Thank the gods, I had a prophecy that gave me 150

stoic flame
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nice

chrome wharf
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clutch

obsidian schooner
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Hold up you can fight Charon?

weary jackal
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Yeah if you rob him

stoic flame
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🔫

obsidian schooner
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LOL

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Ok I thought you were joking but I looked it up

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What happens if you keep giving nectar

stoic flame
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you can make a bond

obsidian schooner
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I heard they give quests

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I maxed out Cerberus nectar but nothing happened

stoic flame
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they are not quests per se but like favours to get their bond

stoic flame
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so that you can give him ambrosia

weary jackal
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I adore that there’s an achievement for petting cerberus 10 times

stoic flame
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._.

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there is?

real thorn
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Best boi

rapid forum
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Yea there is

stoic flame
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time to check

real thorn
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I literally pet him each time

weary jackal
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“Three headed boy; Pet cerberus 10 times”

stoic flame
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nice

rapid forum
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Someone also sent out a tweet back last year? I think. Only around 15% of people had that achievement

stoic flame
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blasphemy

rapid forum
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After the tweet it boosted to 60? I think

weary jackal
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Does anyone else think Zag says “power of the gods” like he’s in a perfume commercial

stoic flame
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at first i thought cerberus was just like the background lol

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like uninteractable

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is that a word?

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ininteractable

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non intractable

rapid forum
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Lol

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I was like Oh doggo

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OH I CAN PET HIM

stoic flame
rapid forum
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Then I stream it to my friends

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I CAN PET THE DOGGO

weary jackal
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There are like 30 separate reasons why Hades should’ve won Goty
Cerberus being pettable is one of them

rapid forum
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I mean, in ghost of sashimi, you can pet foxes

stoic flame
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sashimi

weary jackal
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True, but there’s a limited amount of times you can do that

stoic flame
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was that the name?

weary jackal
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Tsushima

rapid forum
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No lol

stoic flame
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i feel liek it was something else

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ah

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lmao

weary jackal
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Is it just me or does Thanatos start to spawn much less often when you get him to 6 hearts

hollow hawk
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its just you

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the rate that he appears at doesnt drop

weary jackal
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Huh

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Both times I’ve played through the game, on pc and now on PS4, after I got him to 6 he hasn’t appeared in like 5 runs

stoic flame
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rng

weary jackal
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Weird

rapid forum
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He doesn't want to be outdone by your build squirtdevious

weary jackal
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I’ve only beaten Hades 12 times and I’ve beaten him every time, once by 20 kills

barren citrus
arctic oasis
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I can never catch Thanatos to give him nectar

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It’s annoying

ripe rapids
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He beat me by like 2

weary jackal
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Who, Thanatos?
A centaur heart if you beat him in the competitions
The Pierced Butterfly keepsake if you give him 1 Nectar
And a companion if you give him 6 nectar and an ambrosia

whole ridge
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Whooo

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Beat run 4 with the rail gun in a rather close fight with papa

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Ended up relying pretty heavily on the Bombs, got the one that makes it 300% stronger, but it also can damage yourself

azure osprey
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Boys

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I beat hades

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What changes now

whole ridge
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So in short, thanks for the advice on the rail gun, as the chain lightning helped a ton

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In the non-bosses it helped clear rooms super easy

lone tree
wise oasis
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Gun, especially eris rail lets you fully embrace the "the best defence is an overwhelming offence" approach and its great

azure osprey
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Dude the cool thing

weary jackal
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Coronacht supremacy

azure osprey
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I had to do all 5 caves in the 4th area

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And had to do the entire run without a call

obsidian schooner
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I feel like my ability to progress in any given escape attempt is totally dependent on what boons I get

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With the right boons I’m just clearing rooms in seconds

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Other times I can barely get past the fury

arctic oasis
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Eris rail is hilarious

azure osprey
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I think spear is really consistent

lone tree
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Anything I/we can do?

obsidian schooner
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nothing you can do about RNG really

ripe rapids
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I’m a Malphos normie

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0 win random

arctic oasis
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Try to run the keepsakes for the gods you want

obsidian schooner
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I feel like doom boons from Ares are the best

weary jackal
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Chiron Coronacht with either Demeter, Artemis or Dionysus special is stupid good
Getting endless volley and concentrated volley on top of that makes it ludicrous

raw herald
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Depends on rarity/level/aspect

lone tree
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That and aphro's

ripe rapids
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Artemis best girl residentzag

lone tree
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What the best (in general) aspect of Varatha?

raw herald
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Achilles

azure osprey
obsidian schooner
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The dash damage with deflect from Athena is very strong

lone tree
ripe rapids
lone tree
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I just use zag's aspect

raw herald
azure osprey
arctic oasis
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Try fists with merciful end

azure osprey
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I barely use spin

ripe rapids
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Dusa, more like Deuce-a

raw herald
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If you get flurry jab with it, you'll shred everything that isn't a boss, and if you get a good cast, you'll shred bosses as well

obsidian schooner
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I can’t get anywhere with the fists

azure osprey
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Ooo

ripe rapids
wise oasis
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I like guan Yu, the special is nice but overall I really dislike spear

weary jackal
obsidian schooner
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I think the shield with doom is the best combo

arctic oasis
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I also don’t really like the spear usually

lone tree
wise oasis
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Flurry jab makes it much more useable imo

raw herald
weary jackal
raw herald
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Casts scale really well with poms

wise oasis
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Lazer beam Achilles is fun

obsidian schooner
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I got my first duos recently

wise oasis
obsidian schooner
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Cast can be strong

lone tree
obsidian schooner
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I underused cast early on

lone tree
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yea...

ripe rapids
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I’ve only been to daddy twice, railed both times

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Fisted with fists

obsidian schooner
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Is there a set number of rooms to clear in each biome

lone tree
obsidian schooner
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Woah

wise oasis
arctic oasis
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Also you can get extra casts from chaos and Artemis if you’re lucky

obsidian schooner
raw herald
ripe rapids
weary jackal
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I got to Styx on my fifth run, beat Hades on my 9th

obsidian schooner
ripe rapids
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Then like room 24 for Hydra

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Then like 34 for Elysium

obsidian schooner
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Does that include Charon and clear rooms?

wise oasis
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Yeah

obsidian schooner
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Interesting

wise oasis
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If you open your boon menu you can see what chamber you're on

lone tree
obsidian schooner
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Got it

ripe rapids
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I’m not 100 on my numbers, I’ve only done like 15-16 runs

obsidian schooner
raw herald
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Beat Hades on my 46th try, I now have over 900 attempts

lone tree
ripe rapids
obsidian schooner
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I think I hear hades on try 30

obsidian schooner
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But tbh I turned on god mode on like try 25

ripe rapids
lone tree
obsidian schooner
ripe rapids
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Huh

weary jackal
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Coronacht W/ aspect of Chiron is my favourite weapon
It’s so good

obsidian schooner
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Is that where the special seeks

weary jackal
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Yes

obsidian schooner
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That’s very powerful

ripe rapids
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I dunno, I’ve done like 9 fist runs and tried everything else once or twice

arctic oasis
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My favourites are Demeter fists and eris rail

raw herald
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Favourites are Hestia and hidden shield atm

obsidian schooner
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There’s a Daedalus upgrade that makes shooting from a distance 200% damage or something like that. Huge.

weary jackal
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I always run it with Pierced butterfly too, so by the end of a run my damage is normally enough to punch through Hades and Styx like an anti-tank rifle

ripe rapids
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Piercing Fists is my fav augment thing

raw herald
wise oasis
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I like hestia, hidden sword, zag bow mostly

mint coral
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i like hidden shield, hidden bow, hera mostly

weary jackal
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Chamber 21 and my butterfly is at +28%
This run is going smashingly

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Oh finally than shows up

wise oasis
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I've started running Poseidon on hidden shield, either that or Dionysus, I like it much more than aphro tbh

obsidian schooner
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What’s hidden shield

mint coral
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i dont like dio cast bc chaos says no to +1 cast

polar root
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It's called Beowulf.

mint coral
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its hera but melee ron

polar root
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It's hera but better

ripe rapids
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Wait

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I thought I let all the gods

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I’m slow

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Do you meet her after escaping

polar root
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Demeter you mean?

ripe rapids
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Hera

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I have Demeter

mint coral
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bow aspect

polar root
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Hera is a bow aspect.

ripe rapids
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Oh

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Damn

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Do you don’t meet any new ones after Demeter

mint coral
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nope

polar root
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Nopee.

ripe rapids
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😢

vapid narwhal
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Demeter is the final one

polar root
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someone add Hera to the game.

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I don't know what the boons would be tho

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Yeah no swearing here

ripe rapids
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😧

weary jackal
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Is Blast considered a swear

polar root
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No.

ripe rapids
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Darn

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Damn

polar root
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There.

hybrid urchin
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I hope hades gets dlc

real thorn
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It never will

polar root
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Sadge.

hybrid urchin
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Still

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I hope

ripe rapids
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I will enjoy intercourse with your mother

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Holy excrement

polar root
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Ummmmm.

hybrid urchin
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:/

ripe rapids
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God damnit

polar root
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nononono

weary jackal
ripe rapids
polar root
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There.

ripe rapids
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Why isn’t this emote called ZagGasm

polar root
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Uhhh

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Don't know

weary jackal
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It’s a version of the ResidentSleeper twitch emote

ripe rapids
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Or

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CrayGasm

polar root
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Anyway,

ripe rapids
polar root
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Hades discussion

weary jackal
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I want more Than emotes than just thanthink ThanSticker

polar root
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than think is nice

raw herald
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bouldy , thanthink And dusa are all you need

ripe rapids
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I want Meg to get surgery or something, she sounds like she died of lung cancer

polar root
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Dusa gud

hybrid urchin
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P.O.V : nectar

vapid narwhal
weary jackal
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They should’ve made Hypnos the residentsleeper one

polar root
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Charon keepsake is surprisingly nice

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the +8 rooms on +1 cast and cast dmg

hybrid urchin
ripe rapids
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I keep meaning to give my gifts to best girl, but I keep forgetting and giving them to other gods

polar root
hybrid urchin
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O

raw herald
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Yeah bone hourglass is great

weary jackal
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Butterfly is imo the best one, but it depends on what weapon you’re using and how good you are at not getting turned into a fine powder

polar root
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Guan yu gud

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I love it personally

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I like butterfly tooo

weary jackal
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I wish it worked like the pom flower, considering each individual satyr tunnel chamber as an encounter

real thorn
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I love the mom Pom keepsake… easy power ups

weary jackal
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Then it would be so easy to get to 50%

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Ok so my Satyr sack is in either an Ares boss tunnel or a Pom boss tunnel
Which should I try first

real thorn
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Ares

weary jackal
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Nope, and it’s a dire satyr
Blood and darkness

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Got Vicious Cycle though so not that bad overall

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Nice, I got a surface fishing spot

azure osprey
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Dude the reaper guy

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Has the most annoying room

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I hate him

lone tree
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Not than rite

azure osprey
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No

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Than

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F that guy

raw herald
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Why? He gives you health

lone tree
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Why? Isn't thanatos helping you...

azure osprey
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Yeah

weary jackal
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Good gods, I just did 4000 damage with a greater Ares burst

azure osprey
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But

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What happens when you lose

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I haven’t found out yet

real thorn
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Das a lotta damage

raw herald
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You still get the normal reward from that room

lone tree
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yea

raw herald
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Just no extra hp

lone tree
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He's just helping Zag

ripe rapids
azure osprey
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OH

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Then

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That room isn’t bad

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Nevermind

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I thought you instantly died if you failed

weary jackal
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Sturgeon 2 poggers

chrome wharf
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It still spawns more enemies than usual

whole ridge
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Bow with Artemis attack and rapid fire is EZ mode

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I didn't think that counted as a curse

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Cocy

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I only used one death Defiance because I got over confident in the Hades fight

weary jackal
whole ridge
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I mean, to be fair I had Ares Call and Artemis Attack both Heroic rarity

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Oh, I had twin shot and rapid fire, so my DPS was clocking in at like, 700 per second xD

weary jackal
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I don’t like twin shot tbh

whole ridge
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It's okay. I thought it'd been better, but rapid fire is just all around good

weary jackal
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I prefer either triple, chain, or no Daedalus upgrades to the attack
Piercing volley, Relentless volley, and concentrated volley are so good

whole ridge
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No power shot? Oh well

stoic flame
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i dont like the fact that the range is reduced but the time remains same in twin shot

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so it feels slower

raw herald
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Triple + point blank + flurry is a joy to get if you get lucky with the anvil

raw herald
weary jackal
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Can you get perfect shot and flurry shot together? It seems counterproductive

stoic flame
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thats what i just said

whole ridge
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Either way, because my Artemis was Heroic, I was able to chunk armor and bosses in moments xD

weary jackal
brisk trail
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the problem with bow newbies is that they play it like a ranged weapon smh

whole ridge
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And Ares' call helped take care of the nuisance of the coliseum. This was Heat 1, so I gotta still go back and beat it with no heat xD. I did the 4x trap damage one because traps and lava seem pretty unimportant with the bow

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Oh, it's a power weapon easy, slow to fire though

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Unless ya get my set up

whole ridge
#

It's not entirely a ranged weapon.

weary jackal
brisk trail
#

you get twin/triple and point blank shot for max dmg

manic bobcat
#

Twin + Flurry is also really good

brisk trail
#

also I was halfway joking but its kinda true

raw herald
ripe rapids
#

Imma just play fists

azure osprey
#

Quick question guys

ripe rapids
#

If that’s the only way to play bow

azure osprey
#

Are all heat rewards the same

manic bobcat
#

Dash strike a lot because dash attack shortens the charge time

manic bobcat
azure osprey
#

And what’s technically the easiest heat to do

weary jackal
#

1

azure osprey
#

Or thing to increase your heat

manic bobcat
#

Depends on the weapon

weary jackal
#

Oh

azure osprey
#

I meant that

signal aspen
#

td1 is free if you can clear under 36 min consistently

azure osprey
#

I think it’s probably higher cost for items

azure osprey
weary jackal
#

I do forced over time, hard labour, callisthenics, and damage control first

manic bobcat
#

TD1 gives you 9 mins to clear a biome

#

So 36 in total for the run

#

It's easier than it sounds

azure osprey
#

what happens if you take longer then that

weary jackal
#

Death

manic bobcat
#

If you don't clear in time, you take 5 damage/s until you die or clear the biome

brisk trail
#

than will be on your case

#

☠️

manic bobcat
#

You find Charon and ask him to bring you home

weary jackal
#

Welp
Time for heat 7 with double forced over time and damage control

manic bobcat
#

Zag is the type of kid who runs away from home and ask his Mom to drive him

manic bobcat
weary jackal
whole ridge
#

For easiest heat challenge, I think either +15% health or 4x trap damage, depending on weapon. Railgun and Bow generally doesn't have to worry about traps

manic bobcat
#

Chiron is fine i guess

weary jackal
#

Oh neat Athena instantly opens with Divine Dash

manic bobcat
#

But just take CF2 and don't buy items

#

Or Extreme Measure 1 or 2

whole ridge
#

I'll be honest, if I knew I'd get this go with the bow I'd have messed around with Extreme Measures

weary jackal
#

Chamber 4 and I haven’t gotten hit yet
Let’s see how high I can get my butterfly

#

Epic Heartbreak Flourish let’s goo

whole ridge
#

Oh God I'm looking at the Broker and I have the dumbest temporary deal xD
It's for 1 Ambrosia, and he's asking for 2 Titan Blood

weary jackal
#

That’s almost as bad as 1 ambrosia for 500 darkness

whole ridge
#

I think it's an even worse deal just because right above it is the permanent deal for getting 1 Titan Blood for paying 1 Ambrosia

weary jackal
#

“Do you want to just straight up lose 1 Titan blood? Well boy howdy do I have a deal for you!”

ripe rapids
#

Reverse money glitch

weary jackal
#

I’m so glad that surface fish give blood/ambrosia/diamonds

ripe rapids
#

I’m trash at fishing

weary jackal
#

I just got 2 duo boons from Dionysus
Is this an apology for how many times he’s helped Theseus

ripe rapids
#

Reaction time worse than someone with a poor reaction time

weary jackal
#

Sometimes I get too jumpy with it and pull in too early, but otherwise I get the top tier fish relatively often

weary jackal
#

Such as just now when I got a flameater

weary jackal
# ripe rapids What do they give?

Underworld fish give gems, keys and nectar.
Surface fish give Titan Blood for the top tier, ambrosia for the second, and diamonds for the third

ripe rapids
weary jackal
#

You can get them on the walk after him, but yes

ripe rapids
#

Is ambrosia the square bottle

weary jackal
#

Yeah, from Theseus and bull

ripe rapids
#

Oh ok

weary jackal
#

You need a decent amount of it

ripe rapids
#

To give to my waifu shadeembarassed

#

🙈😳

weary jackal
#

Thanatos appreciation gang

ripe rapids
#

There ain’t an Artemis emote and that should be a crime

weary jackal
#

True

#

It should also be a crime to not pick Daedalus hammers over Hermes

#

Not because it’s morally wrong, but to discourage people from doing it

#

I think it just happens eventually

whole ridge
#

So is there any way to know how many times the lyre has been used?

#

I already lost track xD

fiery bramble
#

Man, Chiron's Bow just trivializes most encounters lol having so much fun with this thing

whole ridge
#

Ye

polar root
#

Chiron gud

brisk trail
#

Can I ask yall a question

quartz hearth
#

I haven't gotten a surface fish in ages, I'm sad

sick ibex
#

Noooooo. seriously what is the deal with all the ps5 crashes. 3 on hades. and just now, again, on asterious, with the literal perfect boon loadout. and it completely wipes the quicksave and starts me in skelly room like the run never even happened. WHY

quartz hearth
#

Come on, RNG, I have more than enough Asphodel fish

sick ibex
#

never had a single pc crash, any my pc sucks

quartz hearth
#

Why are you so obsessed with generating fishing spots in Asphodel, RNG

brisk trail
#

Can you just block attacks with the shield of chaos forever

brisk trail
sick ibex
#

just wait till youre on your best run, and itll happen

weary jackal
#

“The gods are on my side, not your, monster! What business would they have, abetting you!?”
Theseus
You’ve seen me use Greater Calls before
What are you on

manic bobcat
#

You can hide in a corner and block forever

wise oasis
wise oasis
vast zealot
#

is it possible to quick kill the bone hydra in either phase?

weary jackal
#

Every single time I hear Zag say “Stonewhal” I’m like…
Did they?

unborn remnant
#

Is that a reference?

weary jackal
#

Possibly

wise oasis
vast zealot
#

skip a phase essentially, looks like 66% and 33% trigger the waves of baby bone hydras; if i can damage down from say 67% to 33% will it go right to phase 2/ say 34% to 0% will it die without phase 2?

wise oasis
#

you cant, the phases have hard damage gates

#

if you hit the lsat hit with overkill itll scale the damage down, similar to armor

shadow kernel
#

You used to be able to I’m pretty sure

#

But not anymore

vast zealot
#

holy heck i think i finally have a build i might get my first clear with

#

i never thought another roguelike would take over isaac as my number one, but dear god, this game is amazing.

#

sooooo glad it's finally on xbox

void vigil
#

Go up to the statue and click on it

fiery bramble
#

For Fists, aspect of Talos or Demeter? Just in general, I know everything is situational

wise oasis
#

Demeter is the best fist aspect

#

imo

signal aspen
#

gilgamesh

wise oasis
#

in like every situation

#

gilgameme

fiery bramble
#

Havent got hidden aspects yet

#

I cant imagine its hard to rack up 12 hits, but is the extra special hit really a game changer?

signal aspen
#

six specials is kinda poggers

fiery bramble
#

Six???

signal aspen
#

at max

fiery bramble
#

Oh, upgraded, right

wise oasis
#

fists get the 12 hits really easily

vast zealot
#

dammit! i can't beat that stupid phase 2 😦

weary jackal
vast zealot
#

yup

weary jackal
#

Honestly I find phase 2 easier than phase 1, the fact he doesn’t summon anything is a major upgrade

signal aspen
#

yeah second phase is easier

#

for me at least

vast zealot
#

i haven't gotten to that point of easier yet 😂

outer fulcrum
#

So blue screen ps5 resets entire run FML

fiery bramble
#

With Hades, it helped me out when I learned you can dash behind him when he does the three lasers. get a good bunch of hits in that way. Divine Shield is also really helpful against the skulls he throws, and deciding whether to kill the adds or focus on Hades in the first phase is important. If theyre weaker, ill take them out. If theyre beefy/slower, ill let them live and focus on Hades

outer fulcrum
#

That’s ridiculous it resets entire run instead save to the last room ugh

wise oasis
short glen
#

Oh that reminds me of the second time I tried to use the task manager to cheat

#

First time worked great, second time reset the run

weary jackal
#

Gods I despise the wretched sneak

polar root
#

This is why kids, you Meg the sneak.

weary jackal
#

My main issue is that every time it teleports my mark is removed so I have to fire another regular arrow at it to reapply it

outer fulcrum
#

@wise oasis ah it’s bc memory leak I guess and gotta restart every run or two to make sure j guess I was playing too long. Glad they communicating though temporary fix and permanent fix coming. Way better than my last game I was enjoying Godfall and their godawful dev team

fiery bramble
#

Is there any benefit at all to giving gifts past the first one? I saw something here yesterday about someone requiring six gifts but I skimmed past it

weary jackal
wise oasis
fiery bramble
#

Got it, thank you

brisk trail
#

its also required for epiloge

outer fulcrum
wise oasis
#

you also get a cute little picture in the keepsake box next to each person's keepsake

weary jackal
#

Also if you give a second nectar to Hades after you unlock the hearts past his first, you get his keepsake

wise oasis
#

very important

fiery bramble
#

Call me Oprah of the Underworld then, everyones getting a gift

wise oasis
outer fulcrum
thick lark
#

Just got done with Bone Hudra and really qish Jade's said "So no head?" as a one liner.

weary jackal
#

Someone choose for me, Artemis or Zeus

fiery bramble
#

Art

weary jackal
#

I feel bad always angering Zeus in these

fiery bramble
#

He's got it good, he deserves to be annoyed every now and then

wet frigate
#

Artemis best girl I always feel bad when I get Aphrodite va Artemis and have to pick aphro because of her stupid heart attack shadegrief

ripe rapids
#

Best girl

polar root
#

Best girl indeed.

wet frigate
#

And I like to get aphrodite and artemis boon together which means a trial has a higher chance fml shadegrief

weary jackal
polar root
#

sadge

wet frigate
#

Pain

ripe rapids
#

Naked Aphro fans vs. Thicc Thigh Art Enjoyers

short glen
#

:( don't hit on Artemis

wet frigate
ripe rapids
#

😳

polar root
#

umm

#

Dio?

ripe rapids
#

🙏

fiery bramble
#

Apro wins every time

#

Which is good, because Dio is chill enough to not care

polar root
#

Dio got T H I C C er thighs in my book

ripe rapids
#

He got something else thick

#

Sus

polar root
#

Uhhhhh

ripe rapids
#

🤨

polar root
#

let's get back to Hades things shall we?

weary jackal
polar root
#

Hades thing Hades thing

wet frigate
#

Uhhhhhh thinks of hades topic

fiery bramble
#

Is there anything easier than Convenience Fee?

polar root
#

Bouldy is T H I C C est of all

polar root
short glen
polar root
#

if you have the aspect for it

#

chiron gud gud

short glen
#

Unless you're cringe bow user

#

Except Chiron apparently

thick lark
#

God damm level 5 Heartbreaker Flourish on the Gloves is so good. Literally just stun locks everything.

fiery bramble
#

Im literally using Chiron right now lmfao, just finished a run with it decided to turn up the heat

wet frigate
#

Yeah I literally always have both dmg controls on

polar root
#

good

wet frigate
#

Free hear

#

Heat

wise oasis
#

36 mins is more than enough

wet frigate
#

Yeah that too ^

polar root
#

tight deadline 2?

fiery bramble
weary jackal
#

So like
I just got an Epic Dionysus’s aid
And then an epic Quick Favour from Hermes
Charon mate, what is up with you

polar root
#

even TD 3 is not that hard after you get used to it

wet frigate
#

I think extreme measures 1 is also fairly manageable and its good to start practicing the fight for last heats

weary jackal
#

I just noticed I somehow got to 8 heat and didn’t notice
First skelly statue it is

wet frigate
#

Woooo

weary jackal
#

Double Forced over time and double damage control

polar root
#

EM 1 definitely not bad.

wise oasis
#

go ri4 to start

fiery bramble
#

Is there a reliable, easy to read source online that shows each gods boons so I dont have to keep asking you guys basic questions lol

wise oasis
#

the codex in game has all the boons

outer fulcrum
#

You can view boons in game in the lore

fiery bramble
#

That makes sense lol thanks yall, another basic question down

wet frigate
#

Codex has the boons and when ur doing a run itll highlight which boons you have for like tier 2, duo and legendaries so you can search for them

wise oasis
#

It also shows you the prerequisites for all the boons

weary jackal
fiery bramble
#

I keep diving into rooms William Nilliam, hoping the God has what I need

wise oasis
ripe rapids
fiery bramble
#

23, Ive beat Hades like 5 times

weary jackal
ripe rapids
#

Oh

fiery bramble
#

4 times

ripe rapids
#

Nvm, I was gonna talk about learning it as you have more runs

fiery bramble
#

Yeah I just sometimes forget exactly which boons some Gods offer, and mix them up with others

sterile yacht
#

So there's a locked aspect on the weapons. I've escaped once. How do I unlock those aspects, without being too spoilery

weary jackal
#

4 of my 5 combat boons are Artemis rn

raw herald
fiery bramble
wet frigate
#

Artemis Aid is based and I will stand by the opinion till I die

weary jackal
#

My aid is dio rn

void vigil
weary jackal
#

Holy asphodel, Hermes just gave me 3 epic boons to choose from
Swift strike
Swift flourish
Greater haste

fiery bramble
#

Greater Haste all day

#

Gotta Go Fast

weary jackal
#

I’m using the aspect of Chiron so I think flourish would be better, so I don’t get locked in place using the homing missiles

void vigil
#

also, if you dont have the codex index yet, the wiki has all the boons listed on every gods page

raw herald
#

Flourish is good on chiron

#

I'd take it if it's epic tbh

weary jackal
#

And I get a fountain too

fiery bramble
outer fulcrum
#

Man I love festive feast Lon cast

#

Lob

void vigil
#

you have the upgrade for it?

outer fulcrum
#

Dunno what the upgrade is I usually get extra casts n other stuff to support it

void vigil
#

no i was talking to freaux 😅

thick lark
#

When you get the sack for Cerberus is the only healing fountain in that room or is it in the other boss room?

fiery bramble
#

I think thats the only one

thick lark
#

Ah

fiery bramble
thick lark
#

Ah alright.

void vigil
#

the codex index, the one which displays the boons in the codex

thick lark
#

Thats rly annoying.

fiery bramble
#

Yes I do, I just never clicked the button to access it lol

void vigil
#

ah i see lol

weary jackal
#

Chimera jerky with Chiron is great

void vigil
#

yeah its really handy

weary jackal
#

Does anyone else ever get slightly mixed up between Charon and Chiron

#

Got Concentrated Volley, I win this run now

fiery bramble
#

Knowing I can see each Gods boons is legitimately changing up how I play entirely right now lol, I wasn't having much trouble before but now I can actually build

weary jackal
#

Concentrated and Piercing volley together make such a joke out of the shield enemies in elysium

fiery bramble
#

Thats what im using at this very second, I cant wait

boreal pier
#

in any instance is killing Charon actually practical

#

he’s hard asf

wise oasis
#

you get 300 dollars, and a loyalty card for that run (20% discount)

boreal pier
#

I struggle against him haha

weary jackal
fiery bramble
#

It feels like anything with Chiron is broken lol, Ill have to resist using it too much

mint coral
#

nothing wrong with using this you are good with lol

#

says as i do another hidden shield run

weary jackal
#

I underestimated how good Dio’s call would be

#

It is tearing through things

#

The baseline in Elysium is so doom-esque

thick lark
#

I am on Hades phase two on 13 hp what are his attacks aaaah

whole ridge
#

Zeus's call is so bad xD

raw herald
#

It's one of the best calls for DPS

#

Because if you get jolted/double strike/splitting bolt, it does a ton of damage

thick lark
#

Ffs I got hit by an exploding skull thing damm

fiery bramble
#

I didnt realized Chirons stayed locked on for a little bit, and you can hit special more than once while still being locked on lol, sweet. Also, with Chirons, does Triple Shot cause 3 different lockons?

dusky wedge
raw herald
fiery bramble
#

Gotcha

weary jackal
#

Support fire let’s go

#

And I’m going into hades with a chimera jerky still active

fiery bramble
weary jackal
#

Hades just Got destroyed

#

My 16 win streak continues

stoic flame
#

nice

kind swan
#

||So, how do the companions work?||

stoic flame
#

every companion has a different attack

weary jackal
#

200 gemstones for a Titan blood?
I’m not certain that’s worth

stoic flame
#

but the general idea is that you summon ur companion to attack the foe once

thick lark
#

What is Titan Blood used for btw

dusky wedge
weary jackal
dusky wedge
dusky wedge
thick lark
#

Don't I just need keys for unlocking weapons?

mint coral
#

weapon aspects unlocked after getting all weapons

weary jackal
thick lark
#

Oh. I still gotta unlock that bird lookin one

dusky wedge
#

If I remembered correctly (and my math isn’t wrong), converting gemstones to blood from the shop costs you 200gems as well

weary jackal
#

10 gems for one key x 100 is what, 1000 gems?

raw herald
#

Yes

weary jackal
#

5 keys to a nectar
10 nectar to a diamond
2 diamonds to an ambrosia
1 ambrosia to a Titan blood

dusky wedge
#

Yeah, imma give up shadegrief

#

I guess my math is… err, wonky lmao

weary jackal
#

Good thing you get 2 Titan blood per heat level

chrome wharf
#

1 blood = 1 ambro = 2 diamonds = 20 nectar = 100 keys = 1000 gems

#

the 200 gems is the limited "offer" to turn 1 ambro blood into 200 gems

mint coral
#

isnt blood to 200 gems?

weary jackal
#

That’s what I have
And just did because decorations are nice

chrome wharf
#

oh yeah blood

weary jackal
#

I love how Zag comments every time you buy a new chair

chrome wharf
#

also how Dad comments about various furniture purchases

#

some are even item-specific

kind swan
#

Are there any use for keys once you've unlocked everything?

chrome wharf
#

you ought to be displayed with the rest

weary jackal
chrome wharf
#

save 15 for the 15 keys -> 1 blood deal

stoic flame
#

yeah thats all thats left

#

or else save it up for that theme

#

it looks okayish

weary jackal
#

Oh neat a free 4 diamonds because I keep forcing the house contractor to build more chairs

#

And another 5 for getting the first skelly statue too

#

Guess I’ll go buy Last Words so it can be spooky time all the time

azure osprey
#

Guys

#

I wanna die

#

I just found out

#

Dusa REJECTS YOU

#

WHAT THE F

signal aspen
#

Yeah

#

Pretty pog

azure osprey
#

NO ONE WANTED YOUR STUPID HEAD ANYWAYS

ripe rapids
weary jackal
#

I’m not laughing what are you talking about

azure osprey
#

You can romance dusa

#

But then this heartless B

ripe rapids
#

YOU can romance her

#

I’m fine with best girl

azure osprey
#

We are stuck with the UGLIEST PEOPLE

ripe rapids
#

Smh my head

azure osprey
#

We can’t even date the tree girl

weary jackal
#

What’s Erebus btw

azure osprey
#

Its either Emo guy

#

Or Emo girl

#

We can’t even date our STEP MOM

weary jackal
azure osprey
weary jackal
#

You do know Sisyphus was like
A terrible person irl

azure osprey
#

Do you mean before he died in game

#

Or in real life

weary jackal
#

In actual history

azure osprey
#

Okay but he has a Boulder friend now

#

also this is a game

signal aspen
# weary jackal What’s Erebus btw

It's a place you can go to after you get your first clear, Erebus gates require 5 heat in tart, 10 in asphodel, and 15 heat in elysium to enter. They have a bunch of enemies in them and you have to kill them without getting hit, if you do that you get some cool stuff

#

And if you get hit you get some onions

azure osprey
#

Also if we can date Meg

#

Why does she still

#

fight us

signal aspen
#

It's her job

pure egret
#

Hey quick question if you can help me out here, From what I understand to get the epilogue I need to forge 5 bonds with people, I think I've done this now but its not triggering Persephone to give me the task

azure osprey
signal aspen
azure osprey
signal aspen
#

No

azure osprey
#

Does that include

#

Ice lady

#

Chaos

#

And Hermès

signal aspen
#

Ice lady

#

And hermes

#

No chaos

azure osprey
#

Or hell tree lady even

signal aspen
#

No

#

The Olympians

azure osprey
#

Alright

weary jackal
azure osprey
#

So

signal aspen
weary jackal
#

Chaos is a primordial being, I think they’re above the gods and Titans

pure egret
#

I've got them all maxed or as max as they can be and full entry completed I can't post a video or screen in here to show you what I'm at

azure osprey
#

Or give them the special nectar

#

Or something?

signal aspen
#

You have to give them ambrosia

azure osprey
#

I was correct let’s go

signal aspen
#

Except for demeter because you can't give her ambrosia until after the epilogue

pure egret
signal aspen
#

You have literally none of them done

pure egret
#

huh? I can't seem to get them any higher then that or give them nectar any more when I see them why I'm confused to how to do it

signal aspen
#

You need to complete their favors

#

After that give them ambrosia

weary jackal
#

I have 600 obol in Tartarus already

void vigil
#

demeter at the lock counts, but for the rest of them you have to unlock the hearts and fill out the rest of them. also i believe its 6 olympians, not 5

pure egret
#

ah dang well I guess I'll have to keep on grinding it out then ty 🙂

weary jackal
#

It’s always so satisfying getting through the barge of death without getting hit

kind swan
#

How do you do Orpheus/Eurydice's quest?
Since they're both at their locks.

weary jackal
#

Keep going through their dialogue I assume

brave portal
#

Nectar to both

signal aspen
#

To progress further you will need to have:

Both Orpheus and Eurydice at a minimum of 5 hearts
Access to the Administrative Chamber (purchased through the House Contractor)
A conversation with Nyx (who must be at 5 hearts) about the Admin Chamber (which can also be triggered by starting Sisyphus' liberation quest)
A conversation with Hades about Orpheus' contract (which requires Orpheus to have started singing again)
A followup conversation with Nyx about Orpheus' sentence, in which she tells you the location of his file in the Admin Chamber

#

this is what the wiki says

kind swan
#

Ah, I need to keep Boozing Night Mom.

brave portal
#

Yeah sounds right, i got it like that

weary jackal
#

Yay I finally got to where Zag nicknames the bone hydra

brave portal
#

Lernie?

weary jackal
#

Yep

kind swan
#

Yeah, it's great.

brave portal
#

I think i've gotten a little too far in the game to have only beaten it twice

weary jackal
#

Wh-
How

unborn remnant
#

as long as you get there

#

and enjoy the process

brave portal
#

53 tries do that

#

Damn you theseus

weary jackal
#

I’m only on run 27 and I’ve beaten Hades 16 times

brave portal
#

So far i'm like 53 attempts and 14k enemies

#

I suck at this Game but i like it and that's all that matters

kind swan
#

Try focusing Asterius 1st as Thesus's is mainly "hide behind a pillar when you see the reticle." In the 1st phase.

raw herald
#

~800 attempts, <400 clears bouldy

wise oasis
#

Less than 400?

raw herald
#

Speedrunning resets

brave portal
#

I've already figured out how to get to Hades every time

raw herald
#

And a lot of my runs are high heat now

wise oasis
#

Time to beat your winrate!

raw herald
#

I've not been above 1:1 in so long haha

brave portal
#

It's now about making it fine out of the temple and get the correct blessings and upgrades

signal aspen
#

i have 634 runs and 420 clears

stoic flame
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🗿

wise oasis
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Tbh I'm at about the same, I've died so many times to progress the story at home

stoic flame
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respect for the grindset

wise oasis
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Gotta unfire dusa asap

kind swan
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I have 6 clears and IDK how many runs off the top of my head

weary jackal
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My Chiron special now does 1110 damage per burst
Get ready to die again, Hades

ripe rapids
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What’s the lore justification to Zag staying in the Underwolrd

wise oasis
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You'll see when you beat the game

kind swan
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^

ripe rapids
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😴

brave portal
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Just keep trying

kind swan
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Well, I only have 1 more Ambrosia gift before I max out Dusa.

weary jackal
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I always feel the need to chant along with the crowd after beating Theseus

brave portal
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We all do

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And also greet the good shade

weary jackal
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Why can we not romance the good shade, smh

stoic flame
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lmao

brave portal
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Good shade is best character fr

modern garnet
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Never date a fan, that's the first rule

ripe rapids
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Disrespectful

weary jackal
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Unhealthy Fixation is so good with the Aspect of Chiron
I feel it fairly obvious that everything is good with the aspect of Chiron by now

modern garnet
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??????????? How did you get that from what I said

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If they're a fan then it makes the power dynamics all weird, that's what I mean

void vigil
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please keep it clean

weary jackal
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Unhealthy Fixation and Splitting Bolt. What is this run

ripe rapids
modern garnet
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Heck yeah chiron rocks

weary jackal
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Hades gon Die tonight

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I shot once and like 7 vermin died instantly

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Oh cool I just fulfilled Hermes’ prophecy

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This is gonna be fun

ripe rapids
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What does Hell Mode do

modern garnet
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Sometimes when you take over half your health in damage, you get a shield for a short period of time

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Hell mode turns that off

ripe rapids
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That’s it?

modern garnet
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And turns a few other heats on by default, and disables God mode

ripe rapids
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What’s god mode

modern garnet
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God mode is damage resistance. If you die with God mode on, the resistance you get increases.

ripe rapids
modern garnet
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It's in the settings

ripe rapids
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residentzag 😴

tender oyster
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I'm working towards releasing sisyphus can anyone explain how i find his contract in the admin room??

brave portal
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Probably nyx knows

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I mean she told me where orpheus' was

ripe rapids
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Why releasehim

modern garnet
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Well some people aren't as skilled at video games and they want to enjoy them as much as we do

ripe rapids
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He gives you stuff

brisk trail
ripe rapids
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And is a bad person

weary jackal
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Why does everyone in this game speak dog
And also, how does Zag seem to understand Charon

modern garnet
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Yeah you gotta talk to nyx until you get the contract

brave portal
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I don't think he does

ripe rapids
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‘Mommy free these criminals for me’

modern garnet
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No one really deserves eternal torment, right?

brave portal
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Debatable

ripe rapids
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Pushing a Boulder isn’t really torture

modern garnet
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That's an infinite amount of suffering

brave portal
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People that don't pet cerberus everytime they get to the house do

weary jackal
ripe rapids
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Also you get to talk to a hot prince every few days

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Soooo

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Worth imo

modern garnet
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Ok, your preferences are noted

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📓 ✍️

ripe rapids
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Visit me

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💭💭😳

weary jackal
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Poseidon I beg you I don’t need more fishing spots right now

brave portal
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Haha fishing go brrr

weary jackal
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I just started a heat 10 run and surfer uncle just shows up and is like “Hey, you like fishing?”

short glen
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Man, imagine being able to catch legendary fish and complete the last prophecy on my list

brave portal
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Surfer uncle

modern garnet
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Just gotta press the button really fast

short glen
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I lack the reaction time

weary jackal
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If I have to survive entirely off of the damage from Pierced butterfly I swear to the gods I’m going to come up to Olympus just to throw Poseidon off

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6 chambers and I don’t get a single useful boon
There aren’t even any fishing spots in most of Tartarus

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Thunder flourish from Charon tho