h1-discussion

[young wedge]

Hey guys

[signal aspen]

hello

[young wedge]

same

What's Achilles favor?

I'm guessing it's to reunite patroclus and achilles right?

[signal aspen]

reunite him with patty

[young wedge]

how do you do that tho?

[signal aspen]

hold up

lemme find it

[young wedge]

no prob

[signal aspen]

Part of the Fated List of Minor Prophecies, Achilles' favor involves finding a way to reunite him with his lifelong partner Patroclus. As Zagreus grows closer to them both and learns of their relationship, Patroclus will tell him to pass on a message to Achilles, to "risk it all". Upon hearing this, Achilles will reminisce on the last time he heard the phrase. Later, he will ask Zagreus to alter his pact with Hades to allow him to enter Elysium and see Patroclus. After Zagreus locates the pact with the help of Nyx, it will cost 5 Diamond to grant Achilles' wish at the House Contractor. He will then leave for Elysium, and Zagreus can find him by Patroclus' side in his resident chamber.

Upon his return to the House of Hades, his affinity gauge will be unlocked, and he can be gifted Ambrosia. He may also visit Patroclus again in subsequent runs.

might not be completely accurate since its from the wiki

[young wedge]

where is the pact tho?

I already got the risk it all dialogue

[signal aspen]

did you get it from the admin chamber?

[young wedge]

oh wait let me check

nope

wait lemme suicide

first tho

should I give nyx ambrosia or should I give all to dusa?

I only need one heart to dusa

[signal aspen]

well giving nyx ambrosia doesnt really do anything because its just for the story, and dusa will give you a companion

and some more story

[young wedge]

so I should just save it

[signal aspen]

what companions do you have

[young wedge]

I have dusa, Meg, Skelly and than

[signal aspen]

is megs companion maxed?

[young wedge]

nope

lvl 2

[signal aspen]

also i forgot that you can get your ambrosia back from dusa

[young wedge]

yep

[signal aspen]

i would probably give the ambrosia to dusa and then get it back and use it on megs companion

[young wedge]

ohhh

alright

I'm doing lucifer run first

then I'll do Guan yu

what synergy is good for lucifer btw

I just picked zeus

[signal aspen]

you can do zeus attack, aphro attack, or artemis special with triple bomb

[young wedge]

zeus+artemis?

[signal aspen]

you can do that

zeus attack artemis special

with triple bomb

[young wedge]

I'll possibly get lightning rod as duo boon

should I get poseidon?

I did infinite ammo

[signal aspen]

ye get poseidon dash

[young wedge]

oh no

no poseidon dash

tempest flourish, flood shot, sunken treasure

[signal aspen]

can you reroll it?

[young wedge]

nope

[signal aspen]

uh

floodshot

[young wedge]

ok ok

lucifer is so hard

I can't seem to get the hang of it

omgg

tisiphone can say my name

finally

[signal aspen]

epic

[young wedge]

goddamnit

she made me use one of my death defiance

[signal aspen]

good job

[humble cloud]

I never liked exogryph, none of the aspects seem to fit me lol, Lucifer is... nice I guess but it is hell to land the bombs and explode them

[young wedge]

yea

I just want the ambrosia

[humble cloud]

You can try demeter for it but it's not even that easy

Dont you do PoP?

Or did you run out of heat ?

[young wedge]

I want the task thing

with lucifer

[humble cloud]

Ah prophecy

[young wedge]

yea

[humble cloud]

Yea I did that and never touched the thing again lol

[young wedge]

I'm doing no heat right now

[humble cloud]

Guan yu is also hell

[signal aspen]

guan yu best aspect

[young wedge]

I've already gotten gilgamesh and beowulf

[humble cloud]

You play with so little health and landing the charged attack is hard because it's slow making recovery a joke

Gilgamesh is nice af, I love excalibur

And Rama + zeus special is epic

Easy clean for everything

[young wedge]

should I go trial of the gods

zeus and poseidon

[signal aspen]

yeah

[humble cloud]

I always go

You can get both

[young wedge]

I should get poseidon right/

[humble cloud]

I'd get zeus first, Poseidon's tides are awful

Specially in elysium

[signal aspen]

you should try aphro special with charged skewer, its a lot better playing with the spin attacks

[humble cloud]

I'm not sure if I tried that one

Might try it when I get a new keyboard

I busted my spacebar completely lmao

[signal aspen]

rip

[humble cloud]

And the other keyboard stopped functioning all of a sudden

[young wedge]

which boon should I get? Thunder dash, zeus aid, heaven's vengeance

all is epic

[signal aspen]

aid

[humble cloud]

Ye, aid

That way you can keep your distance

Try to get Athena's dash deflect

Helps a lot with defense

[signal aspen]

i would use poseidon dash

it does a ton of damage

[young wedge]

athena not poseidon?

I have poseidon dash epic right now

as one of the choices

Tidal dash, Razor shoals, Hydraulic Might

[signal aspen]

grab the dash

[young wedge]

oki doki

[half zephyr]

Athena is meh

[young wedge]

no

[half zephyr]

Sure you get the deflect, but it’s so weak

[humble cloud]

Poseidon's dash is cool as well I just use athena's because I dodge all the time

[young wedge]

should I get poseidon special as well?

[signal aspen]

no

[humble cloud]

Deflect=0 dmg plus the debuff if you grab the other boon

[young wedge]

okay

I did rupture

[half zephyr]

And?

If you just dash normally you have the so called “iframes”

[signal aspen]

if you want 0 damage just use the iframes from every dash in the game

[half zephyr]

And I dash for dmg

[humble cloud]

I get that you dont like it but I do

[half zephyr]

Sure sure

Good luck

[young wedge]

I lost..

Patroclus didn't show up

[signal aspen]

nice

[young wedge]

dusa didn't give me my ambrosia back

[signal aspen]

you have to get her bond

[young wedge]

I have full heart

[signal aspen]

all of them?

and has she talked to you in your room yet?

[young wedge]

uhhh yeah

nope not yet

[signal aspen]

you get the ambrosia back after she talks to you in your room

[young wedge]

oh okay

imma suicide

than is the one in my bedroom

not dusa

[signal aspen]

cool

[young wedge]

Imma just skip

then suicide again

[signal aspen]

bruh why skip

[young wedge]

I want to get my ambrosias back bro

[signal aspen]

what happened to than

[young wedge]

cutscene thing

[signal aspen]

oh cool

[young wedge]

I clicked comfort i think

[signal aspen]

nice

[young wedge]

idk I didn't read the dialogue

[signal aspen]

oh

[young wedge]

I want my ambrosias

[signal aspen]

what happened between you an than

[young wedge]

idk

[signal aspen]

oh

uh

cool

[young wedge]

she's still not in the bedroomm

[signal aspen]

you have to talk to her outside of that

she wont appear in your bedroom

you talk to her

and then you go to your chambers

[young wedge]

she talked about orpheus or smnth

[signal aspen]

cool

nice rng

[young wedge]

Imma go suicide again

she's not there!!!!!

[signal aspen]

what

[young wedge]

she's still not giving me my ambrosiass

[signal aspen]

bruh

[young wedge]

I want to upgrade guan yuu

[signal aspen]

it takes a long time to get dusa to talk to you in your chambers

[young wedge]

omg

I'm giving up

Imma go sleep

[cerulean ferry]

Lol good night, better luck tomorrow

[brisk trail]

Arthur aspect my beloved

[signal aspen]

cool

[cold iron]

Hey what is the best weapon in the game?

[stoic flame]

its upto you really

[cold iron]

Cause the only one I like it’s the first one

The sword

The rest are just meh

[stoic flame]

what about the shiled

its top tier

[cold iron]

Mmm i will give it a chance

Thx

[earnest lance]

Hey bro nice pic

[cold iron]

Oh thx

[earnest lance]

Its sooooooo Kute

[half zephyr]

This question will never have a straight answer as everyone ends up having their own opinion
Bottom line is that none of them are really bad, but that doesn’t mean they’re for everyone either

[cold iron]

Ooh I thought there was a weapon better than others

[stoic flame]

except bow

if u like bow ur just objectively wrong

[cerulean ferry]

Oh okay then

[half zephyr]

No

[cold iron]

Hahahah I agree

[half zephyr]

All weapons are good

[cold iron]

The bow is awful

[half zephyr]

I don’t like the bow myself, but that doesn’t mean I don’t know it’s a good weapon

[cerulean ferry]

Bow needs a bit of practice. Took me a while and now it's one of my favorites

[cold iron]

I prefer the sword

Maybe the easiest

[half zephyr]

And that’s perfectly fine

I prefer fists

My list is fists>sword>shield/rail>spear>bow
Though once I get over sword HA I’ll drop it in the ranking cuz I normally like shield more

I’m better at clearing with the rail though

[stoic flame]

mine is shield>sword>fists>spear>rail>bow

fists and sword is interchangeable

[earnest lance]

Baby i like your pic

[cold iron]

I know

[tender kestrel]

Oh baby, you pic 🥵 😍

[cold iron]

[jolly hornet]

hello, how do i progress in this game?

is it like, pick a weapon and give your best each run or am i missing something?

[cerulean ferry]

The whole point of the game is for you to get to the surface. Just upgrade the mirror, use the weapons and aspects that you like and have fun

[jolly hornet]

where can i find the mirror? Is it like a talent tree?

[cerulean ferry]

Yeah, it's in your room. Just asking, did you just start out?

[jolly hornet]

yep, sorry

[cerulean ferry]

No worries, but #h1-for-new-players might be a better place cuz we might spoil a lot in here

[jolly hornet]

okay, thanks.

[buoyant merlin]

Probably best to look up tier lists and high heat strategies to find this out. Ideally every weapon would have their ups and downs (and they do) but no game is perfectly balanced, so I'm sure one of the aspects edges out the others, whether it's by a little or a lot I do not know.

[hollow hawk]

No

Do not look up tier lists

Most of them are preference based and will spoil stuff

The aspects in this game are very well balanced

every aspect and every weapon is amazing, the only limit is how well you do with it.and for that reason, most people will advise you when beginning out to play with weapon that has the dark thirst (purple glow) on them. That way you get to experience every weapon, and you can then decide which one's you like

[buoyant merlin]

Or look up whatever you want.

Most aspects are great, but some of the Zag ones are lacking. Like the sword and spear Zag aspects. Regardless you can use any of them and get lots of enjoyment out of the game.

[hollow hawk]

i mean, yeah im not your mom. But I'm just giving advice

Zag aspects are designed that way. Its intentional. Its supposed to be a low cost investment for a small buff

[buoyant merlin]

If they haven't finished the game than I agree, tiers are bound to spoil

[hollow hawk]

(they cost 3 times as less as other aspects)

though yeah zag spear and sword suck. But still, its better to find out on your own so you can see what works with you.

[patent burrow]

zag just made the peace symbol at me as he died!

[signal aspen]

Ye he does that

[patent burrow]

ha its funny

[charred hemlock]

is it me and my luck when it seems impossible to get smoldering air with hades aid

[brisk trail]

Equipping the Sigil prevents Smouldering Air from spawning.

[charred hemlock]

oh

dang

i guess it would too powerful to be always unseen

and deal more damage

[brisk trail]

SA caps your Call Gauge at 25%.

[charred hemlock]

also the god keepsakes i no their first effect has a 1 time use but what about the second effect does it still persist

[crude surge]

If you get smoldering and then purge your call is the sigil locked if you try to grab it?

[charred hemlock]

possibly

[stiff musk]

who is good at anatomy here

that wants to help me build minecraft zagreus statue

[signal aspen]

No but the call won't work

[brisk trail]

Yes, as long as you have a God's Keepsake equipped you'll get a rarity boost.

[charred hemlock]

oh cool ok 🙂

[buoyant merlin]

Am I crazy or did they change the animation for when Zag dies at the end of a run (post story) vs when he dies throughout the run? I remember it always being the normal death animation even at the end. As late as 1.0 I still remember it being like that

[narrow hemlock]

you are not crazy
#hades-patch-notes message

[buoyant merlin]

Neat, thank you

[scenic canopy]

Does hades have cross save between nintendo switch and pc?

[narrow hemlock]

yes

[scenic canopy]

Ok thx

[grave kayak]

.....I'm so done. So cheap. He had a flick to the nuts left

[uncut dagger]

who

[grave kayak]

Hades

I was super careful, dashed like crazy...I had it and he hit me with some crazy wide sweep which I thought I dodged

[uncut dagger]

a nut flick hurts a lot he must've had a solid half a bar of Health remaining

[grave kayak]

Lol

[uncut dagger]

well, just try it again

you'll get there eventually!

[grave kayak]

Getting there is easy

I got to him with 4 death defieds and still lost...

Defeid?

The eff

[signal aspen]

True

[uncut dagger]

death defiances

and, yeah, getting there is easy

you just have to memorize the patterns

or ask around #h1-builds-and-combat for tips

[stiff musk]

he had boiling blood in

(thats what happens when you flick nuts)

[signal aspen]

What

[ashen nova]

I have well over 5 titan bloods in the fists, and I've talked to the minotaur 1v1 a dozen times, but he won't give me the waking phrase. Is there something else I need to do?

[granite ether]

Do you have the guan yu aspect unlocked? (as in are you able to invest blood into it)

[ashen nova]

Yup! I have all the other aspects done

[granite ether]

Have you fought Asterious 1v1 with the fists equipped?

There's a specific dialogue that occurs where Asterius notices and says something about the twin fists

[ashen nova]

Pretty sure, but not with extreme measures

[charred hemlock]

there is also scenes where u can dual bed than and aphrodite 🙂

[granite ether]

Extreme Measures isn't required :3
So it's most likely not having the specific dialogue trigger or RNG being mean or both

[charred hemlock]

as well as having your father say something when you do something that doesnt involve the cosmic egg and thats all im saying

[ashen nova]

Ah, yeah, I was feeding to him for a bit to get the hypnos dialogue, so I'm guessing it's just RNG not cooperating then 😂 Guess I'll need to do a few more runs with the fists then- thanks!

[stray snow]

I beat hades twice, but I'm still not sure how to beat hades consistently on 0 heat

I find I need 3 or 4 extra lives by the end of elysium to safely beat the final boss

I usually get hit by the big swinging attack and the fire beam on the second form

[turbid oyster]

hey so I have enough titan blood for the aspect of Arthur, however I can't seem to get the line

does investing TB into actually unlocking the swords help unlock the aspect line?

[chrome wharf]

if you stand right up against Hades during the laser attack you actually don't take damage

[turbid oyster]

hmmmm

[chrome wharf]

can be a bit finicky

[turbid oyster]

yea

I don't like my chances of that tbh

[chrome wharf]

my success rate is like 75%

[turbid oyster]

yea I've only beaten big boi once

[chrome wharf]

helps to stand to the right or below since then you can kinda see where you are

[turbid oyster]

yea true

[chrome wharf]

or just take cover

[turbid oyster]

cover sounds like a more viable option if you ask me heh

[chrome wharf]

but where's the fun

[stray snow]

he triggers it so quickly sometimes and im not in position

and I get hit once or twice before I can get cover

[chrome wharf]

does running in a circle help?

[stray snow]

i guess I could do that haha

[chrome wharf]

the signal is the spear going round and round in a circle

[stray snow]

maybe I should pick up a +1 or +2 dash to get behind pillars consistently

[chrome wharf]

at least get the double dash from the mirror yeah

[stray snow]

oh I've only went double dash since it was possible haha

[turbid oyster]

bruh

yea I maxed my mirror out awhile back

but have only beaten big guy once

what's your fav weapon tho @chrome wharf

[chrome wharf]

Bow but I had more wins with the spear (meaning 1 vs 3 lol)

there's a hammer buff that turns the volley attack into a charged one. if you run up to an enemy and use it, it charges instantly and all the arrows hit one target

I was basically 3-shotting hydra heads with that

if it helps, both my first wins were with chill builds

first one was ice wine spam

[stray snow]

first win was with the stupid lifesteal sword daedulus

[chrome wharf]

second one was crystal beam, +1 cast, +chill, Artemis Duo, Killing Freeze (if all foes are chilled, -15% speed, +60 DPS), Ravenous Will (if no casts, deal more damage)

and in a boss fight usually all foes = 1 so it was handy

I guess start with builds that let you keep your distance

[stray snow]

jk second win was with shield special spam

[chrome wharf]

which aspect are you using

[stray snow]

for which weapon

[chrome wharf]

shield

[stray snow]

nothing

lmao

[chrome wharf]

ah I should try that LOL

[stray snow]

I only have zagreus aspect on bow and I haven't won with that yet

I also had no aspects on the sword win

changing from stubborn defiance to death defiance really increased my consistency though

[chrome wharf]

yeah and skelly's tooth

I use stubborn when I just want to have a resource or prophecy collection run that doesn't take forever

I could just not heal but reflexes

[stray snow]

is there a build to consistently get enough gold for the last stage?

for like the resources that are worth 1000 coins

[chrome wharf]

never thought about it. I guess stack the mirror skill with +100 coins with Hypnos' keepsake

don't spend too much money

sell boons, I saw one go for 400+ before

[stray snow]

what about the 5% gold mirror skill

[turbid oyster]

you guys wanna call?

[chrome wharf]

I feel like that one also needs you to not spend money so that you can snowball the interest

at work, can't talk

[turbid oyster]

all g

[chrome wharf]

one should crunch the math for that 5% interest though

[ashen nova]

I've found using a call that makes you impervious helps give you the extra time you need to hide behind something

[modern garnet]

the beam is pretty heavily telegraphed

[crude surge]

The spinny move is rough. If your using melee you just gotta learn the tell for it bc it hits so hard. Just as soon as you see the white outline double dash out of there.

[stray snow]

thank yall

[young wedge]

should I go collar for guan yu?

[unreal atlas]

Collar is halved too iirc

[brisk trail]

Acorn.

[modern garnet]

Maybe god in tartarus, collar in aspho, another god in elysium?

Depends on what biomes you're comfy in

[hollow hawk]

well max guan yu out before doing a run with it

also try to get charged skewer with it, and dont use its basic attack. Just do special into dash strike into another dash strike, and repeat.

You should be pretty safe if you get charged skewer as the hammer, you can just kill enemies from far

[craggy barn]

special > dash-strike x2 > repeat

not much to it

[stray snow]

i dislike the spear attack

i almost always just use the special

[buoyant merlin]

I find the shield so much more fun to use after you get the hammer upgrade that lets your attack strike twice. idk what it is, it just feels more satisfying to me.

[spiral moon]

how does curse of longing work?

does doom just keep striking over and over?

[brisk trail]

Yes, and it halves in power every time.

[stoic flame]

I always underestimate the spears range

u can literally snipe the hydra from across the map with the main attack

[karmic hare]

Yup

[brisk trail]

Wew

[spiral moon]

lambent plume with zagreus sword aspect and rush delivery is my new favorite way to play this game

[young wedge]

after the queen's plan is there any more tasks to do?

[half zephyr]

If you haven’t maxed all bonds to full there’s that

If you haven’t done all side stories there’s that

You can aim to unlock all decorations

You can aim for all badges

You can aim for all heat rewards

You can aim for getting all Skelton prizes if you haven’t gotten them already

[unreal atlas]

All Prophecies

[half zephyr]

That too

Max the codex entries

[young wedge]

ohhh okayy

[unreal atlas]

Max Codex is pretty much just Max Bonds, after you get a certain amount of runs done

[half zephyr]

It’s just up to you

[young wedge]

what companion do you guys recommend?

[half zephyr]

No

[unreal atlas]

and also Fishing

[half zephyr]

There’s also

[unreal atlas]

oh

[half zephyr]

Which is the saddest one to max

Intentionally get hit

[unreal atlas]

honestly you'll probably max out by accident before you complete the rest of the codex

[half zephyr]

How

[young wedge]

who?

[unreal atlas]

i don't know

fishing is hard

[half zephyr]

I have to remind myself that I want to get hit

And the fishing one Isn’t that hard

[unreal atlas]

well, if you're GOOD AT THE GAME, then I guess you have to try

[half zephyr]

Just gotta get lucky with the spots

[unreal atlas]

go for a Perfect

[half zephyr]

I always get perfect

[young wedge]

what's the best companion?

[half zephyr]

I maxed the non perfect ones before I figured out how to get perfect

[half zephyr]

Depends

Most love battie or Antos I think?

Fidi is fun for dialogue

[unreal atlas]

Antos is ||Achilles|| right? Fidi is ||Dusa||?

[young wedge]

yep

[half zephyr]

Shady is favoured for reasons that don’t include battle

But simply for whom it summons

And same w mort

And rib is rib & kinda eh

It’s there

[unreal atlas]

don't dismiss ||Skelly|| like that, boyo

[half zephyr]

Some do like mort for battle too tho

[half zephyr]

I’m talking about the effects on battle

And that effect is useless for me

I need dmg not a dummy

[unreal atlas]

mort is just a lot of damage. It's like Ares G-Call but harder to hit.

[half zephyr]

Mort is too slow is the thing

It’s why battie is loved

[unreal atlas]

you'd think the delay on Death Sentence would be lower

[half zephyr]

Fast & deals lots of dmg

Great against hades

[half zephyr]

No one escapes death so he can take his time

[stoic flame]

aaaaaaaaa

fookin hades

how do i even beat

[half zephyr]

Punch

Evade

[stoic flame]

💀

[half zephyr]

Throw a stone

[stoic flame]

that second form is death

[young wedge]

yea

[half zephyr]

Punch punch evade stone

What

It’s not that hard is it

[stoic flame]

but it is

[half zephyr]

You can also give him a hug

[stoic flame]

ah yes

[half zephyr]

When he’s doing lasers there’s a pocket around him just big enough for you to fit in where you can do normal attacks that don’t push you back

If you get pushed back it’s straight into lasers

Ofc that’s if it’s full lasers

If it’s just the 3 you can attack from behind instead

[stoic flame]

the lasers are fine

the urns are wacky

[half zephyr]

They’re traps

[stoic flame]

and the regular spin attack

[half zephyr]

Just dash through them with a dash that does some dmg & get out before they snag you

And he telegraphs the sweep very well so you can dash out

It’s about learning the pattern

And the way he telegraphs the attacks

You’ll get him soon!

[stoic flame]

i hope so

thanks for the tips

[half zephyr]

Oh and even if you don’t think lasers are a problem

Aphrodite call at the right time cancels them

Same w Aphrodite legendary- it’s the charm that does it

Stuns hades for just a second or 2

[stoic flame]

alright

[young wedge]

should I get back my ambrosias from dusa?

[stoic flame]

bruh tf is this

[young wedge]

there's no drawbacks right?

[stoic flame]

im halfway throgh asphodel and i hae a singular boon

[young wedge]

oof

[half zephyr]

no, you just get a different dialogue then if you choose to let her keep it

I let her keep it cuz she's my platonic soul mate & I love her like that

[young wedge]

I got it back

I need it

[half zephyr]

guess you haven't gotten the right rooms then

[half zephyr]

for what?

[young wedge]

I'll trade it for titan blood

and upgrade guan yu

and arthur

[half zephyr]

ah

you've done all low heat options then?

all weapons

[young wedge]

I still haven't done spear and rail

[stoic flame]

i keep getting poms of power

that singular boon is level 4 now

[half zephyr]

cool

you should be getting some more boons

and if not just swap in a god keepsake if you can for elysium

if you think you need it that bad

[half zephyr]

rail is easy

[stoic flame]

finally

another boon

[young wedge]

I want to use lucifer tho

[half zephyr]

lucifer isn't the best one

eris is

[stoic flame]

eris is okay

[half zephyr]

no

eris is the biggest dmg dealer

[young wedge]

I want to use lucifer to get two ambrosias

[half zephyr]

in the game

and the one used by speedrunners

[modern garnet]

Hey come on, lucifer is perfectly viable at single digit heat

[half zephyr]

then go boomboomboom

I don't think I use the laser much

I just drop the nukes

[young wedge]

what boons is good for lucifer?

[half zephyr]

idk, it's been so long I can't remember

[modern garnet]

Boons wize its pretty similar to other gun aspects

%damage on special, status effect on attack

[half zephyr]

as far as I remember I didn't really go the way others did with gun boons

I think I tended to get doom on attack just for funsies

cuz I could easily get them tagged with doom

[modern garnet]

Lucifer is a laser pointer, sorta

A fun luci attack is poseidon, because the knockback effects activate constantly

Ez wallslams

More realistically you get chill or hangover

Doom works

[half zephyr]

I think I just did random lucifer

I took whatever the gods offered me

I had more fun with the fact I was using lucifer & in my mind lucifer is thomas ellis so I just imagined running around with him in gun form

[stoic flame]

when does lucifer unlock

[modern garnet]

A gun with a scary face on it called "ignite eden"

[half zephyr]

#h1-story-discussion

you can find in pins

[stoic flame]

okay

[half zephyr]

which feels a bit wrong cuz all he did was tempt someone into eating an apple - I'm not sure he wanted to set the garden on fire

hard to tempt someone into sin if they're on fire

[hollow hawk]

well he tempted knowing that it was forbidden for them to eat it

so

[half zephyr]

anyways

I love lucifer aspect for being fun

not for being good

[hollow hawk]

i love lucifer aspect for its sound effects

and it being good

[half zephyr]

then again, is it right to call it good

[hollow hawk]

yeah?

[half zephyr]

or should it be called bad & that means good

[hollow hawk]

how is it not good

[half zephyr]

cuz it's lucifer

[hollow hawk]

no

its holy

[half zephyr]

so good is bad

[hollow hawk]

[modern garnet]

The good thing is to have fun

[half zephyr]

that's excalibur

it's divine

[hollow hawk]

not for satanists

[half zephyr]

why do you think I love giving arthur cursed slash

in my mind when I'm running arthur my patron god is luci

so cursed slash it is

it keeps being offered to me so there's gotta be a reason for it

[half zephyr]

btw my whole is it good or bad there was just a reference to good omens

the demons keep arguing back & forth about if one of them is good or bad cuz bad means good & that's good when the one demon was trying to say they did something bad that was bad, and not something bad that was good

[hollow hawk]

i know

[young wedge]

guyss

I need help

I wanna die.

I'm about to face hades

with no death defiance

and half health

I need a miracle

I'm on 1 health

[dusky wedge]

Prayers be for you

[brisk trail]

How do you get Guan yu aspect tho

[signal aspen]

check pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion

[stoic flame]

u need guan yu aspect for every single other hidden aspect

which is balls

[tame bluff]

is it worth to trade most of your ambrosia to titan blood during early-mid game?

[signal aspen]

yeah but you should always save a couple ambrosia

[stoic flame]

yeah i traded my 3 ambrosia for blood like a tool

but there is nothing to do with it

[signal aspen]

with ambrosia?

[stoic flame]

rn yeah

i dont have a deep enough relationship with anyone except skelly and he needs titan blood to progress now

that whole kill him thing

[signal aspen]

oh yeah

but ambrosia is needed for the story

[stoic flame]

but after i kill him

i think

[signal aspen]

no

[stoic flame]

0_0

welp

i have yet to clear elysium with the spear and bow and rail

so i have 2 more potential ambrosia

[slender hawk]

how did I finally win with this crap build https://i.imgur.com/CHo4cjy.png

[signal aspen]

nice

post that in #h1-victory-boasting

[brisk trail]

Cerberus Vanquished
(His Hunger)
Good one devs, cheers

[misty hedge]

almost there..
http://this.is-a-professional-domain.com/72FSSKj.png

i just gotta max out a few

[signal aspen]

nice

thats also my last achievement

i hate leveling up keepsakes that i dont use

[tame bluff]

piercing volley doesnt go through shields?

[signal aspen]

it goes through shields

thats what the wiki says

[brisk trail]

Is there 7th weapon In game

[signal aspen]

no

[stoic flame]

no

[signal aspen]

but there are aspects

[brisk trail]

Ok

[tame bluff]

oh maybe it goes through shields but doesnt hurt the shields

[signal aspen]

hurt the shields?

piercing volley makes the special unblockable

so enemies with shields can take damage from it

[tame bluff]

it didn't for me on elysium shielders and theseus

[signal aspen]

what

[tame bluff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stiff musk]

if ive done the first 10 clears and done 3 hear clears

am i ready for a fresh hell mode save

[signal aspen]

3 heat clears?

[stiff musk]

3 heat

[signal aspen]

well

minimum heat in hell mode is 5

[stiff musk]

ez

[signal aspen]

uh

sure

[stone karma]

i might leave this server

[signal aspen]

ok

[stoic flame]

okay

[tame bluff]

when you get to greece and there's no fishing spot

[signal aspen]

epic

[tame bluff]

can trial of the gods reroll into duos?

[nimble sigil]

depends on the duo

[signal aspen]

you cant get duos in trials

[nimble sigil]

o

I thought you could

[tame bluff]

not even if you reroll?

[signal aspen]

no

[half zephyr]

Nope

[signal aspen]

you can get legendary boons

[tame bluff]

ok ty

[half zephyr]

You can get 2 boons total, but not duos

That’s what makes the trial rooms good

2 gods instead of 1

[nimble sigil]

also pro tip:
always take demeter first if she's offered. Winter vortexes suck.

[unborn remnant]

Demeter is obnoxious in trials

[nimble sigil]

||Demeter Theseus is the worst tho|| (dont know if this counts as a spoiler)

[unborn remnant]

it can be pretty bad

Ares can be kinda tough sometimes too in that fight

[signal aspen]

spoilers are allowed in this channel

[nimble sigil]

a

h

ok

[nimble sigil]

imo Athena and Demeter are the worst

[tame bluff]

can hunter's mark apply to the foe you are hitting?

[nimble sigil]

no

[signal aspen]

no

you have to hit another enemy with the mark for it to move to the foe you are fighting

[half zephyr]

Athena is easy to beat

The ones you don’t want are Artemis & Zeus

[nimble sigil]

Athena is easy but the invincibility is annoying

[half zephyr]

Athena just makes the enemies more durable

Zeus rains lightning on you

[nimble sigil]

yea

Arti is annoying too

[brisk trail]

I thought at 1 heat after getting the titan blood by bearing meg I would get it again at heat 2

But that doesn't seem the case

So how are you supposed to farm yhat

[nimble sigil]

you have to kill the final boss first

[brisk trail]

Oh I see

[nimble sigil]

then you get the heat 2 bounties

[brisk trail]

Alright thanks

[nimble sigil]

np

[signal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659820450297282585/847478692867473418/no_mirror.png

no mirror 32 heat is easy

[nimble sigil]

ezpz

😎

wait you guys actually get more than like 40 fps?

cries in switch

[signal aspen]

you have to beat 32 heat to get access to 60 fps

[nimble sigil]

o

so THAT's why my frames suck

I have been working on 32 heat lately

[signal aspen]

yeah

[nimble sigil]

32 heat is tough when youre bad at the game

[jolly hornet]

Hi, in some rooms i get lag/stuttering. Anyone else have the same problem?

[signal aspen]

no

go to #h1-tech-fixes and see if any of the solutions work

[jolly hornet]

ok, thx.

[signal aspen]

also if none of the fixes work then ask for help in #h1-tech-support

[jolly hornet]

kk.

what is a roguelite?

[nimble sigil]

the kind of game hades is

[jolly hornet]

ah i read the wikipedia entry

[stoic flame]

stuf like hades and enter the gungeon

[chrome wharf]

I call the witches room the Lag Room lol

[nimble sigil]

any room with enemies with that one pact condition that makes them clone themselves kills my game

[signal aspen]

rip

[nimble sigil]

BP is fun but my switch doesnt agree with it

[stoic flame]

witch room is so wacky

the asphodel one

dash to dodge and end up in the lava 😎

[nimble sigil]

yeag

*yeH

Uegya

I concur

[signal aspen]

witch room isnt that bad for me anymore

i still get hit but not that much

[nimble sigil]

Im bad at avoiding lava in ||em2 lernie|| and witch rooms

[signal aspen]

yeah, i was close to a no hit ||lernie|| boss fight but i had em2 on and stood in the lava on accident

[nimble sigil]

yea 😔

[stoic flame]

lernie?

[signal aspen]

bone hydra

zag gives it a nickname

[stoic flame]

ah

i should not have read that

[signal aspen]

why

[nimble sigil]

I probably shouldve spoiler tagged that oop

[signal aspen]

i guess ill hide it too

[brisk trail]

Which duo boon I go for with aspect of authur

Pretty cool sword aspect

[wraith ginkgo]

I have a question for the boon stubborn defiance, so is it like every three seconds all enemies get hit by the doom affect?

[signal aspen]

if you get artemis attack you can get heartrend with aphro dash or special

[signal aspen]

what

[wraith ginkgo]

I think it's the name of the boon, ik it's a duo boon with ares and another god, I'm just confused about what it does

[signal aspen]

bruh

stubborn defiance is the mirror upgrade

tell me who the other god is

[wraith ginkgo]

zues I believe

[signal aspen]

vengeful mood is the duo boon between them

and every 3 seconds your revenge boons go off

so if you have the ares revenge boon

and you wait 3 seconds

enemies around you will get hit with doom

same thing with other revenge boons

[wraith ginkgo]

ok thanks

[signal aspen]

np

[brisk trail]

I just got Artemis dash attack and hammer dash twice

What should I go for now?

[signal aspen]

you have the artemis dash boon?

or do you have artemis attack

[brisk trail]

Yeah epic rating one

[signal aspen]

oh

[brisk trail]

Critical chance

[signal aspen]

what

so you have the attack boon?

[brisk trail]

No I have a boon which increases my dash dmg

[signal aspen]

oh

[brisk trail]

And a hammer boon which makes so I hit dash twice

[signal aspen]

so you have artemis dash boon and double edge?

[brisk trail]

Yes

[signal aspen]

ok

grab aphro attack

[brisk trail]

I see Dionysus rn

What is aphro

[signal aspen]

aphrodite

[nimble sigil]

aphrodite

[brisk trail]

Okay

[signal aspen]

grab her attack boon

[brisk trail]

Go for heart tend?

[nimble sigil]

ye

[signal aspen]

you can do that

[brisk trail]

Do I ignore Dionysus now then

[signal aspen]

you dont have to

if you grab the aphrodite keepsake you wont have to ignore him

[brisk trail]

Okay will do that

Aight thanks

[signal aspen]

if you want heartrend then you have to get artemis attack

[mint agate]

Random question: does anyone have a list of all the possible dialogue/boss reactions to the different summons

[signal aspen]

no

sorry

[brisk trail]

Okay

Rn do I just take Dionysus aid

[signal aspen]

yes

[brisk trail]

Ok

[brisk trail]

2 times in a row I got Athena aphro duo boon

[warped fiber]

got to the final boss for the first time today

the last area is so annoying

[mint galleon]

temple of styx?

i just got there today

with the fists

[strong ridge]

aphro vs ares for dio chiron

is the 3 hangover more dps than the .35 reduction?

[signal aspen]

Bruh just get both

[brisk sage]

Hi there! Unsure if this is the correct channel for this, but I was curious—does Than ever comment on the furniture you get him in his area? It’s been a while since I’ve gotten it all for him and he hasn’t said anything, although to be fair it could have just gotten pushed down by other dialogue threads
Thanks in advance!

[uncut dagger]

I don't think I ever got a comment on that either but it's my headcannon that he never used it so he just ignored it

[brisk sage]

Lmao that sounds like him
Thanks!

[lusty crane]

Hello
What priority for House contractor with Diamonds please ?
Only Diamond things left to unlock and I've unlocked nothing yet

[signal aspen]

I would buy the things that affect your runs

Once you've bought all of those I would start working on reuniting patty and achilles, orpheus and eurydice, and freeing sisyphus

[modern garnet]

Rod of fishing gives you a steady income of gems and nectar

Fated keys is real strong, especially before you have the darkness to fill the last row of your mirror

Erebus gates are useless until you get up to 5 heat

The rest of the renovation just kinda make you a little stronger... not much noticeable impact

[lusty crane]

Thanks you 😊

[buoyant merlin]

If you think Hades is cheap wait till you fight one of the optional bosses. Next to no wind up, does giant swings of damage

[glass salmon]

I really don't feel like playing hades ngl. But I'm 2 achievements away from finishing. And I want to finish it

[buoyant merlin]

I've gotten all the bounties for my three favorite weapons (sword,spear,fists) now I'm deciding what I want from this game.

[stiff musk]

concept: infernal arm chariot the hidden aspect is a leopard 2a6

[stoic flame]

okay i do not like the fists anymore

its hard to beat the elysium bosses with those

[wheat anvil]

I think i burn myself out trying to beat 32 heat.

[stoic flame]

ba dum tsk

[brisk trail]

Take a break for a week or three.

Not necessarily entirely from Hades, but definitely from grinding 32 Heat.

[buoyant merlin]

Anyone else use Arthur to get their first 32 heat clear? I'm not really into searching for high heat strategies cause I like to discover them on my own, but I'm wondering what worked for you guys

[golden kayak]

just beat hades for the first time

he is hard

[stiff musk]

he is

[quaint wind]

congrats on your first win!

[stray snow]

how many times do you have to beat hades to get the fullish story

[signal aspen]

You complete the main story after 10 clears

[unborn remnant]

https://twitter.com/kasavin/status/1398074969918087168?s=21

Greg Kasavin (@kasavin)

I was excited to hear folks from the Hades player community were collaborating on a complete audio recording of the Iliad, and I even got to record a brief foreword for it. The oral tradition lives on! They're almost ready to share it with everyone. https://t.co/XJqhzpqKeN

Twitter · May 28, 2021, 12:33 AM

[sick ibex]

hey guys, ive taken several moths off, any noteworthy additions to the game in recent months?

[unborn remnant]

not really, just bug fixes

[sick ibex]

ahh, gotcha

[unborn remnant]

they're taking a break right now

[sick ibex]

I burned myself out early on lol, played hours a day every day. was hoping something new would get me back on it haah

thats fair

[half zephyr]

fancy

[unborn remnant]

it can be nice to come back after a couple months or so

whenever you wanna play

[sick ibex]

oh yeah, im getting the itch for sure, that why I was curious if there was some new weapon or perks to hunt for

just checked my steam. 338.2 hrs. maybe not a ton for everyone else, but thats astronomical for me outside of destiny lol

[unborn remnant]

ok thats a lot

yeah I have like 80 hours so I dont blame you for being burnt out

[sick ibex]

no real breaks in that 300+ either, it was one long stretch of every day for a wicked long time haha

for good reason though obviously. glorious game.

[unborn remnant]

yeah its a great game

@sick ibex have you tried doing challenge runs?

[sick ibex]

is challenge mode in the game? or is that a self imposed thing? I cant recall

[signal aspen]

There is hell mode

[sick ibex]

Ive done super high heat runs a billion times

[half zephyr]

you have hell mode & then you have the monthly challenges here in the server

[unborn remnant]

I mean like

Dash Only, No Boons, etc

[signal aspen]

No mirror

That's what I did this morning

I was bored

[sick ibex]

ahh, yeah i havent done any challenge stuff posted here, just breaking my own balls on high heat stuff haha

[unborn remnant]

Thats fair

Challenge runs could be fun though

Dash Only is fun

[sick ibex]

im def getting interested hearing about those

[half zephyr]

you can see all past monthly challenges I think in the pin?

[sick ibex]

my favorite thing was making ultra optimal builds along the way, but the polar opposite could be equally seet

sweet

[half zephyr]

or in the place the pin links to

idk

[signal aspen]

Yeah it's in the pinned messages in #h1-builds-and-combat

[sick ibex]

nice. i think i found my goal for tonight lol

[unborn remnant]

thats good to hear

[misty hedge]

Only took me 93 hours!
http://this.is-a-professional-domain.com/5ob3u1F.png

[half zephyr]

I’m still struggling to max featherduster

Cuz I just never want to use it

I don’t know if I have the achievement though
I didn’t look too closely when I booted up my save on steam

[modern garnet]

I often take it in elysium when my build is almost good enough to stand up on its own but I don't want another god

[half zephyr]

Only enough to know I have all story quests unlocked - Sisyphus, Eurydice, Patroclus - but I don’t have the admin chamber one

It’s a bit fun how the cross-save achievement unlocks happens

It looks like I’ve cheated from an outside perspective since it appears I somehow got all those side stories resolved without getting the admin chamber

[young wedge]

I feel bad for theseus LMAO

he's depressed

[mint galleon]

yes

[brisk trail]

What does maim on Gilg aspect do?

[half zephyr]

let's see if I remember..

it makes enemies hurt more, but also hurts you

so they take more dmg, but so do you

if I remember right

there is a description when you look at the aspect though

[dire yacht]

I just got that aspect and that is correct

For the plume, do we know how long you have to clear a room out to get the dodge increase?

[unreal atlas]

It's longer in later biomes, Elite fights, Than fights, etc.

[dire yacht]

Ahh gotcha, that's good at least

If I play recklessly enough I might still be able to increase it in Elysium then

[half zephyr]

there is a timer

[dire yacht]

Speaking of Than

[half zephyr]

under the keepsake on your screen

[dire yacht]

Oh ok

[half zephyr]

it changes depending on room

[dire yacht]

I got rush delivery but I don't have any speed increase oof

[unreal atlas]

That's impossible

...or have you not got even a single stack on Plume

[dire yacht]

What

Does plume count as bonus speed or something

OH

I see now

Oops

I only thought it was a dodge chance

Nevermind then, all is well

[stiff musk]

q

if i delete steam do i lose my hades save file or is it on the cloud or whatever

cuz i am very smart

[tepid rapids]

hello

[stiff musk]

is that a yes or no this is urgent

[dire yacht]

Yesn't

[tepid rapids]

most games ave in my documents so if you delete it it should be there

but look first

[dire yacht]

I can't help you I play the Switch version sorry

[tepid rapids]

same

but I used google like a pro

so check if it's there first

[stiff musk]

oh thank god the save file is still there

ok

ty

[tepid rapids]

welcome

[stiff musk]

crisis averted

[tepid rapids]

I am really bad at hades

but that doesn't stop me

repeatedly dying

I've not had it for log though so...

[stiff musk]

the fun of hades

is dying

[dire yacht]

I've done ~50 attempts so some might say I'm still a bit newer

[stiff musk]

no mald only hypnos

[dire yacht]

Though probably more in the middle than anything

[stiff musk]

i'm nearing 50 attempts with 11 clears so far

i think

[dire yacht]

I have 2 clears lol

[tepid rapids]

I keep dying to those damn skeletons who have bombs

[dire yacht]

Both with the fists

[tepid rapids]

so the first boss thing basically

[stiff musk]

i think i have cleared with everything except fists

[dire yacht]

Doing a run now with the plume and fists, I've never gone through the areas this fast

[stiff musk]

i almost had a fist clear but i bottled and stood in hades funny death ray

[dire yacht]

I'm at 32.6% dodge chance between aspect of Zagreus and the plume

[tepid rapids]

I don't know why but I love how this murder thing is called the 'funny death ray'

[dire yacht]

Now if only Hermes would show up again I could get even more dodge

[tepid rapids]

I never battled it so I wouldn't know what tf it is but still

[stiff musk]

would u like to know

or find out for yourself

[tepid rapids]

I'd like to know

[dire yacht]

Heading into Heroes fight with 60% dodge chance, this is nuts

[stiff musk]

what is the max dodge chance you can get

[dire yacht]

Apparently 100%

[stiff musk]

you should try for

do all 6 styx chambers

[dire yacht]

I'll see

That was easy

Easiest Elysium ever

Do I go down the two boss chambers or no...

Hmmm

Might not be worth it. I've got all 3 death defies, nearly full health, and the rewards are more coins for Charon (which I don't really need), and Dionysus

I guess I'll risk Dionysus

Oh I completely forgot Giant Bother was a boss

That was easy

3rd clear, that was far easier than it should have been

The plume wasn't even 3 stars until Styx

[brisk trail]

How do you avoid ||hades 360°|| beam without dodge ability

[dire yacht]

Go behind the pillars

They're short pillars but do the job

[brisk trail]

or hug him

[dire yacht]

That too

[brisk trail]

Thanks it worked

[young wedge]

I've done the epilogue!

that was quite easy

[unreal atlas]

huh, so getting really close to [REDACTED] dodges the Dire Snakestone ability?

[granite ether]

In the regular fight yes
It doesn't work in the EM4 fight as it has a knockback effect

[vapid narwhal]

I wonder if that was the dev's response upon seeing people doing that before EM4 was thing

"Try this you cheeky blackguard"

[modern garnet]

only in the extremest of measures are you unable to hug your dad

[ashen nova]

God, hades and zag hugging sounds like the most awkward, uncomfortable experience for everyone involved 😂

[void vigil]

#ask-supergiant message
Relevant message

[dire yacht]

Lmao

[vapid narwhal]

[signal aspen]

em4 isnt that bad

but you need a lot of duo boons to beat it easily

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/846096254768775198/Screenshot_271.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/846096270590083092/Screenshot_272.png

[dire yacht]

How do you clear the game in 8 minutes nani

[signal aspen]

speed

if you think that 8 minutes is fast then you should see the wr

[dire yacht]

I fear what it's like

[dusky wedge]

Last time I checked, it was at 5:57min

Crazy

[dire yacht]

Holy crap I'm surprised that's even possible

[novel wasp]

dodge build but its dog build

[mint galleon]

i got to the temple of styx yesterday for the first time

[signal aspen]

nice

[grave kayak]

@brisk trail hide behind a pillar

[buoyant merlin]

My relationship with Cerberus has been stuck since forever. What am I missing?

[signal aspen]

you need to pet him more

[buoyant merlin]

Not sure if that’s a meme or not

[signal aspen]

nah thats how you unlock his heart

20 pets i think

[buoyant merlin]

Noted.

[open sphinx]

Wait are you going on runs without petting Cerberus first?

[buoyant merlin]

Yes

I’m heartless

[signal aspen]

how dare you

[half zephyr]

you monster

[mint galleon]

how many gods are there in hades

which have boons

[brisk trail]

8 primary Olympians, plus Hermes and Chaos.

[mint galleon]

yes olympians im stupid

athena has the best boon change my mind

also ares

[stiff musk]

artemis aphrodite duo

sorry

[signal aspen]

bouldy has the best boons

[stoic flame]

Athena boons the most mid

except for the dash

chaos boons are also very mid

[signal aspen]

poseidon dash is better than athena

i only use athena dash for ME now

[stoic flame]

I like Athena dash better because I suck @$$ at dodging

[brisk trail]

Wdym bouldy that boulder by siphus?