h1-discussion

[glad leaf]

would you recommend it over the other one

[signal aspen]

you will see more gold laurels

[signal aspen]

yes

[manic bobcat]

If you don't need resources to upgrade mirrors, unlock stuff, etc. I would suggest Dark Foresight, it generally feel better to play.

Of course if you want to "farm" darkness or gems then don't go Dark Foresight.

[glad leaf]

what does the bonus stuff do

below nectar, darkness, etc

how does it activate?

[signal aspen]

those are work orders

it is unlocked by buying the deluxe desk for the house contractor

Special Item: Give the House Contractor a break (and new jobs...) 2 Diamond
Fountain Chamber, Elysium
Keepsake Collection, Regional
Fated List of Minor Prophecies
Plunder, Lesser
Urns of Wealth, Lesser
Court Musician's Sentence

thats how you unlock it

you have to buy those

[glad leaf]

oh i unlocked the desk already

which upgrade should i get first

[signal aspen]

then buy the work orders

[glad leaf]

with diamonds

[signal aspen]

i like the nectar and the key one

[glad leaf]

yeah the key one for sure

cthonic keys are really common

[manic rock]

I asked about "cloud gaming", and not " cloud saves"

[south comet]

can theseus crit with his spin attack when he gets artemis in his 2nd phase?

[signal aspen]

ye probably

idk i never got hit by it

because im too good

[crude surge]

gaming

[signal aspen]

no

[chilly sonnet]

is arthur hard to use?

and is it good

thinking of trying it instead of nemesis but it seems like itd be more challenging

[signal aspen]

arthur is good

it can be hard to use

since it is slow

[chilly sonnet]

does supernova boost the area of damage reduction

[signal aspen]

no

but there is a hammer for that

its arthur exclusive

[chilly sonnet]

noted

[brisk trail]

greater consecration

[chilly sonnet]

good keepsakes to use with it?

/boons

[brisk trail]

artemis attack

aphro special

heartrend

athena dash is good since projectiles move slower in the hallowed ground

[signal aspen]

i feel like aphro dash will be easier to apply weak

[brisk trail]

easy to reflect them away

that works too

[chilly sonnet]

what about aphro attack

[signal aspen]

its good too

[brisk trail]

its not bad

i prefer the crits cause big number

but anything that artemis works well on, aphro works well on as well

[chilly sonnet]

aphro is more consistent tho is it not\

[signal aspen]

it is

[chilly sonnet]

cause you get the daamge boost instead of relying on crit chance

[signal aspen]

but artemis gets you BIG NUMBER

[brisk trail]

thing is, you can get hunter's mark and then all your problems go away

[signal aspen]

ye

[brisk trail]

plus it opens you up for stuff like clean kill

[crude surge]

Heart Rend is also another reason to go Arty attack

[signal aspen]

you can also use my favorite arthur build

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/835545407572017152/Screenshot_183.png

[crude surge]

what am I looking at

[signal aspen]

backstab

[crude surge]

how

[signal aspen]

chaos

and athena

[crude surge]

how did you get so much

[signal aspen]

cosmic egg

[crude surge]

but the egg doesn't boost chances of finding one

[signal aspen]

i know

but i somehow got 3 natural chaos portals

i bought 1 from a well

[crude surge]

and all of them offered backstab

[signal aspen]

yeah

[crude surge]

how

[brisk trail]

i still think arty attack and phalanx shot or divine dash wouldve been better

[crude surge]

what are the odds of that

[signal aspen]

shut up

[signal aspen]

like 69

[crude surge]

its not about being optimal Yom

its about BIG NUMBER

[signal aspen]

you dont need crits when you can deal 1900 damage without a crit

[brisk trail]

but this wouldve been BIGGER NUMBER

[modern garnet]

Do the boons stack additively or multiplicatively

[brisk trail]

ok now imagine this but with 5000 instead

[brisk trail]

additive

[signal aspen]

additively

[crude surge]

we dont need to be pushing the luck of this setup farther though

lol

[hollow hawk]

arty attack only gets bigger number 20% of the time though

[crude surge]

Does parting shot enable backstab damage with cast or does it let cast do backstab damage from the front

[hollow hawk]

While this gets slightly smaller number all the time

[signal aspen]

im pretty sure its 15% on attack

[hollow hawk]

15% then

[hollow hawk]

backstab dmg with cast

Cast only backstabs from front (and frontshots from back) with phalanx shot on hera

because of a weird interaction

[signal aspen]

phalanx shot too thicc

[crude surge]

so you still have to hit from behind

[hollow hawk]

no

Not with hera phalanx shot

[crude surge]

wait

[hollow hawk]

With other weapons/casts yeah

[crude surge]

I'm confused

[signal aspen]

cast appears at the front of the arrow so when it lands on the enemy it hits from the back

and phalanx shot is too big

[hollow hawk]

@crude surge whatcha confused about

[crude surge]

weird

[hollow hawk]

It enables backstab dmg from the back for casts, but with hera phalanx because of the weird interation^^its from front

[crude surge]

ok

[hollow hawk]

this is also why phalanx shot hera can hit greatshields in elysium when shooting from the front

But not from the back

[crude surge]

weird

[manic bobcat]

I know. I meant this QA specifically

Will Hades ever come to other platforms?
We launched v1.0 of Hades only on Nintendo Switch, Steam, and the Epic Games Store. We'll be considering opportunities to bring the game to additional platforms down the line. Thank you for your interest.
I think there is another tweet where Greg also says that they are aware of what people want, but provides no confirmation on whether or not they would do it. Basically what I am trying to say is that SGG almost always provide non-answers to these kind of questions.

[chilly sonnet]

if i could use an arthur build

id just use heartbreak strike and level that up

and then just pray for epic swift strike

[signal aspen]

ye that works

[chilly sonnet]

then the difficulty disappears

[signal aspen]

or you can do this

[chilly sonnet]

the backstab build?

[signal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/834866333970595911/Screenshot_175.png

[chilly sonnet]

not too big on the backstabs

oh not the backstab build

[signal aspen]

you cant take damage with this build

[chilly sonnet]

lmao yeah that gets the job done quite well

you wouldnt even need arthur for that though

[signal aspen]

ye but it helps a lot

[chilly sonnet]

put that on demeter fists or eris rail and game is unlosable

[signal aspen]

i wanna do that again

because there are some boons i missed

[warm turtle]

wait

is that build literally just

"lul 100% damage resist"

[modern garnet]

Damage resist doesn't stack to 100%

[brisk trail]

thats what hunter's mark is for

[stiff musk]

how high is priority for zeus to give you aspect of lucifer once you fill all reqs

me want lasor

[brisk trail]

it shouldnt take too long

it usually only takes like 3-5 conversations max for any of the aspects once you fill the criteria

[signal aspen]

Then why did it take me 20 attempts to get guan yu

[chilly sonnet]

is flurry shot good

on zag aspect

or should i just stick with dash strike spam\

[brisk trail]

F

[brisk trail]

it aint bad

[chilly sonnet]

is it better or worse than normal zag bow

with using dash strikes

[brisk trail]

zag bow?

[chilly sonnet]

zag aspect bow

[brisk trail]

well zag bow sucks so... better i guess?

[chilly sonnet]

i like zag bow >:(

[brisk trail]

yeah ik what you mean, just wondering where that came from

[brisk trail]

you should try the other aspects haha

[signal aspen]

Zag bow used to be my fav bow aspect

But then I started playing more rama

[stiff musk]

what does rama do

[brisk trail]

slow attack, big number, special applies a debuff where enemies take a portion of the damage dealt to any enemy

[stiff musk]

are all the hidden aspects slow attack big number

that seems to be the trend

[signal aspen]

Enemies with the debuff take a portion of your attack damage

[chilly sonnet]

zag aspect bow with artemis attack has big numerals

what do you guys think is the easiest and hardest trial of the gods

[brisk trail]

most of them at least

[stiff musk]

which one isnt

[brisk trail]

arthur, GY, rama, gilg, beo are

just not lucifer

[stiff musk]

ok lucifer isnt slow

thank god

[brisk trail]

lucifer is... weird

it's fun, but it's weird

[modern garnet]

I'd call lucifer slow... it has a charge up time

Can't fire instantly

[brisk trail]

that hardly affects your gameplay

[modern garnet]

It means you can't effectively ME

[brisk trail]

the start up time isn't super significant mos tof the time

[uncut dagger]

yeah

I actually like Lucifer more than any other Rail Aspect

Eris included

[sturdy sphinx]

Oh?

[brisk trail]

im afraid of the insinuations of this message

[uncut dagger]

hm?

[crude surge]

Radiation deflecting

[brisk trail]

does this mean you normally go ME on other rail aspects?

[crude surge]

sounds interesting

[stiff musk]

what is ME

[modern garnet]

Damn thats a philosophical question

(Merciful end)

[chilly sonnet]

-sockgrapes

[stiff musk]

oh

[signal aspen]

Duo boon between athena and ares

[chilly sonnet]

divine dash, curse of agony, merciful end

on fists

and you win the game

[crude surge]

Its the boon that can go anywhere on anything

[signal aspen]

You also need divine flourish

[modern garnet]

ME with the dash is so good it's unfun tbh... but for some people an aspect is only viable when you can ME with it

[crude surge]

and you could make a semi decent case for it

[brisk trail]

ok lets theory craft

aspect of lucifer

curse of agony

divine flourish

you put a ball down

you attack an enemy near the bal

ball*

the ball procs ME

with the aura

[crude surge]

I hate that that sounds decent

[chilly sonnet]

which aspect is the one with the empowered shot

[crude surge]

hestia

[chilly sonnet]

yeah that weapon is the hardset in the game imo

the apm on that thing

[brisk trail]

achilles is pretty mechanics intensive

you can do some cool things with the extra mobility

[chilly sonnet]

eh not really

the skill floor on achilles is pretty low

the skill floor on hestia is really high

[modern garnet]

The luci ball procs pretty slowly compared to typical ME activators but it could be good

[brisk trail]

i disagree, worst case scenario you just play it like zag rail

[chilly sonnet]

well yeah but i mean playing it optimally

[brisk trail]

skill floor doesnt have anything to do with optimal play though

[modern garnet]

Well you could say the same about GY

[chilly sonnet]

what i mean is like, the skill floor that it takes to use the weapon to its potential

[brisk trail]

attack, reload, attack, reload isn't exactly a super tough combo

[chilly sonnet]

to do it effectively and put everything else on top of that tho

dashes specials casts etc

all when you can play eris and beat dad with your eyes closed

fun fact i was trying to beat one more run the other day before going to bed and i was super sleepy and my eyes were like closing periodically cause i was that tired

but i managed to get 70% of the way through elysium with zag fists with my eyes practically closed half the time

[brisk trail]

nice

[chilly sonnet]

you literally just use plume and lightning strike on them

and hope for greater evasion

and you cant lose

[brisk trail]

8TH WIN BAYBEE

[tender jolt]

WHY DOSEN'T SLICING FLARE COUNT FOR THE SLICING SHOT DUO'S

[half zephyr]

but which one are you talking about?

according to wiki you can still get hunting blades

and freezing vortex

[violet chasm]

woooo!!!! Mom has been acquired :)

feels nice to have made so much progress in this game

[manic bobcat]

because Beowulf is just built differently

[craggy barn]

nope, you can only get freezing vortex

[glad leaf]

zeus is bad 90% of the time

popular opinion

[cold iron]

What u guys know about the leak in the south corean website? About the ps4 port

[quaint wind]

very likely a fake

[cold iron]

I heard its on an “official” or famous site

[uncut dagger]

the what now

there's a leak about Hades on PS4?

[cold iron]

Yea look in yt

[uncut dagger]

I really want to make a joke where I pretend to ping the Supergiant role to ask them but I am confused on how to set up the joke so just know I am making this joke and it is very funny

[signal aspen]

That's so funny

[cold iron]

Ok i will wait

[manic bobcat]

i mean, are we surprised for a console port?

[signal aspen]

I'm already laughing

[manic bobcat]

their most successful game yet

[uncut dagger]

same

[glad leaf]

<@&456891110032277505> whats up

[manic bobcat]

would be a huge missing opportunity not to port

[signal aspen]

Nice

[glad leaf]

very

[uncut dagger]

can the Supergiant Role even be @d

[signal aspen]

Now the FBI is here

Good job

[cold iron]

I really hope so

[glad leaf]

😎

[uncut dagger]

I don't know if I do

but more power to you if you want it to be true

[cold iron]

Do u really think they are going to answer?

[signal aspen]

No

[half zephyr]

someone should change wiki then

[uncut dagger]

my guess would a big fat no

[signal aspen]

That's dumb

[cold iron]

Worth trying

[uncut dagger]

I wouldn't even want to know tbh

although this begs the question
they only ported it to Switch and PC
why the Switch?

[signal aspen]

Because switch is the best

[half zephyr]

handheld \0/

the game really suits switch & handheld

[signal aspen]

This is coming from somebody that has never touched a switch in their life

[uncut dagger]

it's exclusives are kinda...
faltering...

[half zephyr]

plus switch being a kinda big console I guess

[uncut dagger]

although, with that being said, at least there are exclusives

[half zephyr]

gotta keep in mind when the game released

and how popular switch is & was leading up to that

[uncut dagger]

should we take this to #off-topic-discussion

[cold iron]

Itd be awesome to play it on a big tv

[half zephyr]

I'm about to go sleep

[uncut dagger]

or #video-games

[quaint wind]

yeah video-games

[half zephyr]

it's 2:45 am

[uncut dagger]

oh okay

[unborn remnant]

give me hades on nintendo wii

[signal aspen]

Ok

[uncut dagger]

gn Shadow!

[half zephyr]

ty!

[signal aspen]

Good night

[half zephyr]

[cold iron]

Gn

In arg its 9 pm so

[weary inlet]

Hey, what's ambiguity?

[signal aspen]

Nothing

It's just a cool bonus from bouldy

[weary inlet]

Well what does it do?

[signal aspen]

Nothing

It's just a cool bonus from bouldy

[weary inlet]

So it doesn't give me any better stats or bonuses, it's just for show?

[signal aspen]

Yep

But sometimes he actually gives you buffs

But they are really tiny

Like +3% extra coin

[high island]

Movement speed bonus and damage reduction are actually decent if you get them.

[mellow belfry]

Hello

You know if I'll receive the musik kit for csgo if I bought the game yesterday?

[narrow hemlock]

as far as i can see official info only stipulates you need at least 5hr in hades, so i would tentatively say yes, but i dont play csgo so i can't say for certain
https://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/2021/03/33418/
https://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/2021/03/33431/

[drowsy wren]

I played the 5 hours and I still do not receive it

[narrow hemlock]

there's nothing the supergiant team can do about that, as its for csgo, not a supergiant title. it's just a cross promotion they were involved in

you're gonna have to check the csgo side or steam support, i'd wager

i don't see any sort of expiration on the promotion, so if it's no longer available, i'm not aware

[drowsy wren]

I guess so

[drowsy wren]

mmm

[narrow hemlock]

I poked through, you'll need to go through steam support > counter-strike and ask through there

[south comet]

do any of yall play with keyboard and mouse?

I've always played hades with it but I see most people playing with a controller

[brisk trail]

Are there any plans to have a PS/Xbox Port of Hades?

[uncut dagger]

#hades-faq message

[uncut dagger]

no I've always used a controller

[modest kiln]

Why

[uncut dagger]

why do I use a controller?

[vapid narwhal]

I'll do you one better: How do you use a controller?

[uncut dagger]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

can I phone a friend?

[brisk trail]

doesnt the game literally recommend playing with a controler

it doesn't matter though

[void vigil]

I’ve played with kbm ever since the game first released in early access, it feels just fine imo

it does recommend a controller though

[modest kiln]

[half zephyr]

It’s hard to play with keyboard on switch

[delicate ember]

I feel like controller would be harder to aim and stuff

Especially with bow

And using aim assist feels like cheating

It's too op

[brisk trail]

not rly

thats what aim assist is for

to fix it for controller

it has advantages and disadvantages

[half zephyr]

the auto aim is there to help when you use controller >.>

[brisk trail]

i do, and i prefer it to the 1 time i played with controller

the one thing i dont like is that i can only dash in the 8 cardinal directions

but aiming is a lot easier

[signal aspen]

i play kbm

[cloud orbit]

yeah same. never tried controller cause i havnt owned one since the xbox 360 came out lol

[signal aspen]

bruh

[cloud orbit]

i mainly play fps shooters on my comp so never had a need or use for a controller so never got one since i built my pc

[stiff musk]

360 controller works if you still have that

i use a 360 controller

[signal aspen]

a true gamer would

[cloud orbit]

nah i sold my 360 when i build my comp years ago

[stiff musk]

do u still have the controller

[cloud orbit]

im fine with keyboard anyway

no sold it

[brisk trail]

Why is this game rigged

[signal aspen]

what

[brisk trail]

I wish i had been recording, i had a run where I was "healing too much" and it started setting enemies up to die via traps and exponentially increased the damage poison was doing, typical for a run with any amount of carry healing

But then it straight up started attributing damage to nothing and my on kill healing stopped altogether

[signal aspen]

poison can stack

and wdym "healing too much"

[brisk trail]

Idk i experience this thing with hades all the time

When i take the healing duo or the 2% health on kill specifically

If im taking my time and healing from room to room the game suddenly screws me

[signal aspen]

the 2% health on kill only works on special kills

and the healing duo only works if you have no DDs

[brisk trail]

Yes im aware

[signal aspen]

and it stops working after all the enemies died

[brisk trail]

I cant lose a run suddenly to no dd no enemies

[signal aspen]

so if thats nots whats happening then its a bug

[brisk trail]

I leave one alive, heal to full and move on

The enemy will path straight into a trap for no reason

[signal aspen]

thats some very smart AI

[brisk trail]

I get that its like, anti abuse one mechanic thing

But it could be upfront about it instead of killing your run "organically" for what could be an accident

Imagine a new player thinking that damage reduction doesnt work because if you stack it, enemies just scale faster

:V

[brisk trail]

sounds fake

[stiff musk]

game rigged

[jaunty vapor]

Okay

I need help deciding on what god to get the trinket for on elysium rn

I have a sick run, but just can't decide

[signal aspen]

it depends on what your build is like

[unreal atlas]

get the keepsake or choose the keepsake?

[jaunty vapor]

Choose

Can't remember what channel to post images in

[signal aspen]

you cant post images anywhere

unless you copy image link

[jaunty vapor]

May I DM it to ya then?

[signal aspen]

nah

i unfortunately have dms off because of scam bots

[unreal atlas]

You can post in victory-boasting and tech-support but it's probs easier to just give us a list of what makes your run nutty

[jaunty vapor]

tldr
Demeter Fists
Zeus Attack, Arty Special, Athena DasH
Strong Drink, Vengeful Mood, Curse of Vengeance, Breaching Cross

Don't have a cast, and will as of next room have 260~ health

[signal aspen]

thats a good build so you dont really need anything

[jaunty vapor]

I just need to figure out which would be best

I'm thinkin dio for cast but not sure

[unreal atlas]

So you're asking which god's keepsake to bring for a Shot boon

[signal aspen]

no dio cast

if you want a cast you should go for aphro cast

[jaunty vapor]

or just what y'all would think would improve this run

[unreal atlas]

Trippy Shot can be really hard to use

[jaunty vapor]

I love trippy shot :sadge:

[signal aspen]

aphro cast can get you heartrend which will increase your special damage by a lot

[jaunty vapor]

right right

the issue is then, getting an arty or aphro since I'm going to elys rn

[unreal atlas]

I don't even remember what Aspect of Demeter does

[jaunty vapor]

Basically land a number of fist attacks and your special does like more hits

it's really nice

I'll go for Aphro, forgot bout her thanks

[unreal atlas]

Putting Crush Shot on an already melee build seems a bit weird but if you're thinking Duos then sure

[jaunty vapor]

I never use my cast anyway, so it's not a huge issue

🤷‍♀️

:3

[unreal atlas]

Fair

[jaunty vapor]

Also may I ask what flag is that behind that alola vulpix?

[signal aspen]

tbh i wouldnt even use a god keepsake i would just put on acorn

[unreal atlas]

It's an Autism flag. Not sure who made it but

[jaunty vapor]

true

[unreal atlas]

Acorn? I hate the champions with a vengeance but that seems off to me

[signal aspen]

acorn is really good

[jaunty vapor]

EM3 champions on FO2 will be fun

but I know I can do it

DAMNIT Hammer or aphro

[unreal atlas]

I'm sure it is, even if it leaves you helpless in every other chamber

[jaunty vapor]

gotta go hammer

[unreal atlas]

You get hit a lot more in normal encounters... or am I just bad

[jaunty vapor]

Depends

Also explosive upper or rush kick?

(second run I've played in 5 months so trying to jog my memory)

[signal aspen]

explosive upper

easy pick

[unreal atlas]

I'm not even sure Rush works with Demeter Fists

[signal aspen]

it doesnt

[unreal atlas]

But hey, +damage on the multihit special?

[jaunty vapor]

this is high key one of the best runs I've like ever had

[unreal atlas]

How would you deal with FO2 Cats with that build anyway? Or just Cats in general?

[jaunty vapor]

Cats?

[signal aspen]

flamewheels

[unreal atlas]

Flame Chariots

[jaunty vapor]

Oh

just

dodge

fast

[unreal atlas]

Well, running them into walls is harder than it looks in my experience

And you can't melee them of course

There's a reason there's an item specifically to get rid of them

[jaunty vapor]

Damnit why does best boi always show up when I have 3 DDs

[unreal atlas]

Because you've gotten good at not dying I guess

[jaunty vapor]

holy heck, this run is busted I just killed champs while taking like 80 damage and in about

a minute

[unreal atlas]

Feels real good huh

[jaunty vapor]

It really does

I mean, I've had runs comparable but it's been so long since I've played it's good

• I don't even have EM4 on

so I can go kick dad's ass

[unreal atlas]

I imagine Bronze Champions and Extreme Hades take some real getting used to

[jaunty vapor]

Champs? is just a matter of trial

I'm not even gonna try EM4 till I'm like

a god gamer

[unreal atlas]

I haven't even gotten used to Flying Hydra yet

[jaunty vapor]

Hydra actually like

kinda gets easier?

[signal aspen]

ye

hydra is easy

but i dont like the lava

[unreal atlas]

It just changes the shape of the platforms and sets the guy in the middle free

[jaunty vapor]

Yeah

which weirdly, makes it a lil easier

Ya ever wish you could enable a pact in the middle of a run?

cause that's em4 for me rn

[signal aspen]

em3 makes theseus easier

[unreal atlas]

It's a bit weird not being able to outrange Lernie at first but you get used to it

[signal aspen]

but it makes bull harder

[unreal atlas]

Yeah, Chariot is a bit easier to deal with than just the spear

It doesn't change the annoying part though

[quartz garden]

the hydra heads are more vulnerable to AOE (area-of-effect) on EM2, so it really gets easier

[unreal atlas]

And the fact that the Chariot just doesn't have a shield... it's basically a different boss

To be fair you're also more vulnerable to AOE for being surrounded

[jaunty vapor]

I have 342 health

NICE

[unreal atlas]

EM3 changing the Minotaur Chamber is a big downside

342?

Chaos really served you well there huh

[jaunty vapor]

I got 57 from chaos

that's it

Also no?

I just have a lot of health

[unreal atlas]

342-57 is not a multiple of 25

[jaunty vapor]

I'll show you in Victory screenshots

[unreal atlas]

...Strong Vintage?

It's one of the two

[jaunty vapor]

Premium vintage ye i got that

in epic

heh

cause of course

3 of my first 5 boons were epics, heh

also I think I've gotten used to FO2 now

I feel like I need to take smouldering air, just to like have it once

[signal aspen]

yeah smoldering air is great

[unreal atlas]

I keep forgetting I even have my call, so having it always there is very good

[jaunty vapor]

with rift rn? seems pretty decent

[signal aspen]

oh

[jaunty vapor]

367 health

pog

[signal aspen]

you have ares call?

[jaunty vapor]

Yep

[signal aspen]

oh

ares call with smoldering air isnt great

[jaunty vapor]

it seems decent for getting out of tough situations

[unreal atlas]

Rift kinda relies on the 4x to be really good

[jaunty vapor]

still, I can kill dad on the strength of my build alone

• I need smouldering for prophecy

[unreal atlas]

Can you get smouldering air with Seeking Arrow or Disappearance, just out of curiosity?

Take the prophecy then I guess

[signal aspen]

disappearance?

[jaunty vapor]

already long since took it

[signal aspen]

you can get it with the arrow

[jaunty vapor]

hades call

[unreal atlas]

Sigil

[signal aspen]

oh

you can

but it wont work

[unreal atlas]

You can? That's just weird.

[signal aspen]

whoops

you can

but it wont work

[unreal atlas]

Start with 30% gauge but it's capped at 25%? You'd think there'd be an exception for that

[jaunty vapor]

and phase 1 is gone

I wish I had EM4 rn

[unreal atlas]

Would it be too op to be able to enable conditions mid-run? Not disable, just enable.

[jaunty vapor]

I think?

since if you had a 10/10 run

[unreal atlas]

Disable would be really broken

Not gameplay-wise but mechanically

[jaunty vapor]

oh for sure

and he's dead

17 heat, first time ever above like

10

[void vigil]

i feel like it would kind of be op, part of the challenge of EM4 for example is that you have to face all of the previous EM bosses beforehand

[unreal atlas]

Yeah that's one reason

Take CF2 if you're just going to buy the diamond and nothing else in Styx

[jaunty vapor]

I mean, I'd only ever use it to go from EM3 to 4 if I was sure I could beat him

[signal aspen]

if i could change the heat conditions mid run then my high heat runs would be super easy

[unreal atlas]

How would you balance that in ANY way

[brisk acorn]

hey guys

are all prophecies progress' retroactive?

do you progress in all of them even before unlocking them?

[signal aspen]

no i dont think so

the only one i can think of is the queens plan

where you have to give nectar and ambrosia to olympians

[brisk acorn]

hmm so something like || kill 10,000 souls for ares|| do i have to unlock it before it starts counting?

@signal aspen

[signal aspen]

idk

[brisk acorn]

://

for some things it did count before

[signal aspen]

to unlock that prophecy you need to kill 2k enemies

so maybe it starts at 2k

[brisk acorn]

and nectar

apparently

or not actually hmm

i will test it out

[modest kiln]

any tips on finishing the game

furthest i have gotten is styx chambers where you have to clear five of them

[signal aspen]

you dont need to clear all five tunnels in styx

[modest kiln]

wait what

[signal aspen]

when did you get the sack?

or have you even gotten the sack?

[modest kiln]

what sack?

[signal aspen]

oh rip

[modest kiln]

no i might have gotten it but forgot

[signal aspen]

in styx you need to give cerberus a sack of food

[modest kiln]

oh

[signal aspen]

so you go through the tunnels looking for some

[modest kiln]

I have not

oops

[signal aspen]

and then hopefully on your second tunnel you get the sack and give it to him

[modest kiln]

yup

which thing should i use btw

skelly's lucky tooth?

extra life

[signal aspen]

do you have the acorn?

[modest kiln]

yes

[signal aspen]

and what level is it

[modest kiln]

ive gotten it only recently though

[signal aspen]

oh

[modest kiln]

so level 1

[signal aspen]

is tooth max rank?

[modest kiln]

isn't that the one that dodges the first 3 hits from each boss

[signal aspen]

yeah

[modest kiln]

ye it restores 100 hp

3 stars

[signal aspen]

oh

hm

[modest kiln]

im pretty new my bad

[signal aspen]

i think you should use tooth in elysium

acorn in styx

[modest kiln]

only done 30 runs

ok cool

asphodel?

[signal aspen]

well it kinda depends

[modest kiln]

usually i lose 0-1 lives in asphodel

[signal aspen]

how many mirror DDs do you have

death defiances

[modest kiln]

maxed out

[signal aspen]

nice

[modest kiln]

that's what i know

[signal aspen]

do you have a chthonic coin purse?

[modest kiln]

wait i forgot

no it isnt

I still need 1000 darkness

[signal aspen]

oh

[modest kiln]

For another dd

[modest kiln]

Yes, maxed out

[signal aspen]

ok

what weapon is your favorite

[modest kiln]

The 4 key one

[signal aspen]

what

[modest kiln]

a spear

[signal aspen]

ok

[modest kiln]

I think

[signal aspen]

you dont know which weapon is your favorite?

[modest kiln]

It's the spear

[signal aspen]

ok

what gods do you like to put on your spear?

[modest kiln]

Ares and Poseidon usually

or dionysus

[signal aspen]

do you have their keepsakes?

[modest kiln]

yes

[signal aspen]

have you unlocked aspects yet?

[modest kiln]

what are those

[signal aspen]

ok thats a no

[modest kiln]

okay

[signal aspen]

so i think you should use these keepsakes:

poseidon -> coin purse -> tooth -> acorn

wait

do you have zeus' keepsake?

[modest kiln]

not sure

[signal aspen]

ok

i think you should go:

dio -> ares -> tooth -> acorn

[void vigil]

im pretty sure progress in them is retroactive, because i remember sometimes unlocking prophecies and already being some of the way done with them

[signal aspen]

@modest kiln what mirror upgrades do you have?

[modest kiln]

uhh

Look im on my phone right now because it's late so I'll have to check tomorrow

[signal aspen]

ok

[modest kiln]

I can send screenshots tom

I cannot send images though

[signal aspen]

thats fine

[brisk trail]

yeah it for sure is

ik cause with the god boons ones, you dont get them until you unlock the fated list of minor prophecies, and when i unlocked it they were all like halfway done

[stiff musk]

i am emotionally dependent on the characters

i have come to the realization

[wraith ginkgo]

how do I unlock the shield's hidden aspect?

[signal aspen]

check pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion

[wraith ginkgo]

k

[charred hemlock]

You know when you have a godtier run as well as the fact having your death defiances intact only to be wrecked by giant rat poison puddles. That was me today and I feel they should be nerfed especially if you are in a melee build up close and personal with the Gilgamesh Gloves

[half zephyr]

Just don’t step in the poison

[signal aspen]

or you can just stop using gilgamesh

[half zephyr]

And take out the rats before they can drop the poison

[signal aspen]

the big rats spawn poison when they die

[half zephyr]

You have gilga - dash

Don’t linger >.>

It’s entirely possible to take big rats out with fists without being poisoned

[charred hemlock]

my build was making enemies die to being maimed chilled and shattering with winter harvest

[half zephyr]

Doesn’t sound that good - but that might also be cuz I really don’t like maim

[signal aspen]

wdym, maim is the best

you can take so much damage with maim

[crude surge]

I love taking 50% more damage

[charred hemlock]

yeah maim with merciful end is insane just a big burst damage combo

[crude surge]

especially when Hades inflicts boiling blood on you

[chilly sonnet]

can you get to max bond with dusa and megaera or can you only pick one?

[brisk trail]

budget HL

[modern garnet]

If you run em3 you'll be guaranteed to have a ranged option by the time you reach styx :P

[signal aspen]

you can pick all of them

[chilly sonnet]

ok good

[brisk trail]

you can max bond everyone

[crude surge]

I've done EM3 without any real range

[chilly sonnet]

i just gave dusa her ambrosia past the little arrow thing and i assume thats like some sort of romance deal so i was worried id be locked out of meg and maybe than

[brisk trail]

what do you mean by this

[brisk trail]

nah

[signal aspen]

especially when you put on hl5

[modern garnet]

I mean that beating em3 is really hard without range, its a joke

[half zephyr]

You need range for em3?

[crude surge]

I play fists I dont know what range means

[signal aspen]

theseus likes to run around

[wraith ginkgo]

what is good normal attack boon for shield?

[signal aspen]

aphro

[half zephyr]

The chase is the best part!
Aside from his laugh ofc

[signal aspen]

when theseus stands next to the crowd bombs drop on to him

[crude surge]

just trail behind him dash striking

[signal aspen]

so when you have a short ranged attack its gonna be hard

[crude surge]

and back off when he does that

hes still standing for a while after that

[half zephyr]

Just slap him

Then dash away

Then do it again

[signal aspen]

or you can tank the hit with this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/834866333970595911/Screenshot_175.png

[crude surge]

he says with EM2

[signal aspen]

shut up

[crude surge]

while discussing EM3

[signal aspen]

im gonna do it again

[signal aspen]

i can easily destroy you

do not challenge me

[crude surge]

this is true

[signal aspen]

you do not know who you are talking to

you do not want to get on my dark side

[crude surge]

Getting a bunch of damage resist with Arthur is really fun though

[unborn remnant]

Hades PvP when

[signal aspen]

right now

[half zephyr]

Ok I gtg - movie time

[unborn remnant]

Could you imagine some dark souls stuff where you can go to someone else's run and kill them

LMAOO

[crude surge]

lol

[charred hemlock]

what works with punishing sweep

[unborn remnant]

That would be so toxic

[crude surge]

Oh boy I'm finnally about to clear 64 heat

[unborn remnant]

[crude surge]

I'm about to end this mans whole career

[signal aspen]

wdym

[charred hemlock]

what works great with it

[signal aspen]

boons?

[charred hemlock]

yeah

[signal aspen]

aphro attack

or artemis attack

[modern garnet]

it's hard to believe there's any other attacks in the whole game

[crude surge]

angry ME noises

[charred hemlock]

anyone of you did a super soaker build 🙂

[signal aspen]

yeah

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/843512408639012864/Screenshot_249.png

[charred hemlock]

oof permajolted

[crude surge]

I did that onc

e

It was fun

Just needs a lot to come togethr is the problem

[halcyon oriole]

How exactly does Different League work?

Does it reduce damage from enemies who are just right next to you, or within a certain distance, or what?

[charred hemlock]

yeah i had trouble doing a rip current build because of course you are not getting the aid right away

[signal aspen]

it just reduces the amount of damage you take

[halcyon oriole]

From everything? Then isn't it identical to the Athena boon?

[signal aspen]

i think so

wait nvm

they need to be close to you

[halcyon oriole]

Aphrodite's says "nearby foes" and is a greater percentage

I guess it probably helps to just think of it as "melee-range"

[charred hemlock]

i think i mentioned this but i wish hunting blades and freezing vortex would go together. Devs probably thought it was going to be overpowered and didnt implement it

because there is also vicious cylce that increases it damage overtime so yeah

[chilly sonnet]

What's some good build ideas for chaos shield? I'm about to start my second attempt at 20 heat

[signal aspen]

aphro attack and ares special or aphro attack dio special

and if you are gonna go with dio special then you should try to get curse of vengeance from ares to get curse of nausea

[chilly sonnet]

for some reason i always went with zeus special

but, ares special probably works better anyway

maybe i can get divine dash and then me

[signal aspen]

zeus special works well with chaos shield

[chilly sonnet]

i got to theseus last time but died there

[signal aspen]

with divine dash you cant get ME

[chilly sonnet]

oh

:(

well i dont want phalanx shot so ill probably just go without it then

[signal aspen]

you cant get ME with phalanx shot either

[chilly sonnet]

lol\

no me then

[iron badge]

i found a hilarious looking fanart piece for the game but i don't know where to share it

[signal aspen]

#fan-works

[clear python]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/nhzjlg/it_wont_heal_me_at_allwhy/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share :^;

Just wanted to share my pain about it TwT

[brisk trail]

You don't immediately take damage if you Dash over magma.

Depending on how high you've got Lasting Consequences set, you could double dash over to the food, eat one to three ticks of magma damage, then get back to safety.

[clear python]

Just losing a dd over this would be awful

[void vigil]

Finally upgraded all my aspects to max and got rid of my hoard of titan blood... feels weird to only see 16 titan blood and ambrosia, but that’s one more thing done and closer to true 100% completion

[brisk trail]

Sure.

[chilly sonnet]

袁志宏 was correct

Beat the game on 20 heat without dying

ares special and aphro attack plus i got curse of longing

[void vigil]

now I need to max bounties, which is super hard to me on some weapons, and max the ranks, which I need to farm tons of darkness for

[chilly sonnet]

do i have to max bonds with every god for the true ending?

[brisk trail]

At least 6.

[chilly sonnet]

theyre all at least at 6 hearts

ah

does hermes count?

[brisk trail]

I don't remember.

Check story discussion, I believe there's some pins for doing the epilogue.

[chilly sonnet]

Also is Dusa the only character that requires more than one ambrosia per heart

[brisk trail]

I think so.

||You're given the option to take them all back.||

[chilly sonnet]

||Noted||

||Speaking of options does asking hermes to stop talking do anything? I've chosen him to keep talking both times I've gotten the prompt||

[signal aspen]

nice

[chilly sonnet]

and yet i still only have 7 heat with stygius lol

[uncut dagger]

||nice, you're not a monster, now I know||

[hollow hawk]

i think like 90% of people probably didn't shut him up

[crude surge]

I like the talking

||what does asking him to stop do though||

[uncut dagger]

||I think asking him to stop makes him stop||

[crude surge]

||So he just doesn't have dialogue anymore?||

[brisk trail]

It's a Friday, got a couple hours to kill until my concert, oh yeah it's Hades time

[main stratus]

Anyone have any tips for darkness farming?

[cerulean ferry]

Use the weapon that has Dark thirst on it

[crude surge]

use Poseidon keepsake to get him into the god pool so you can get oceans bounty. Go into every chaos gate to try and get bonus rewards. Play on a heat where you already have the bounties collected so you will get darkness drops when you kill a boss

[main stratus]

Thank you!

[silk lion]

So I just started. Done maybe 10 or so runs and have only made it to the first boss, but haven't beaten her. Should I buy some Death Defiance?

[modern garnet]

Yeah death defiance is gonna help you go way farther in the early game

[twilit osprey]

Hey is it just me, or is Bone Hydra super easy.

[south comet]

he is ye

but obviously all bosses become easier once you killed them a couple times

[brisk trail]

hy

hades

player

patches have improved the game

[south comet]

?

[delicate ember]

Hades should add an among us god

1/10000 chance to appear

Gives you immortality

[main stratus]

[delicate ember]

how hard is it to escape once with all weapons if i dont upgrade aspects?

should i jsut continue grinding shield heat for now?

[modern garnet]

heat is per weapon

you should be able to beat the game at 0 heat with every weapon without any major blood costs, especially as you get better at the game

what happened, you spent all your blood on one weapon?

[delicate ember]

well im making out asp[ect of zeus, but also im just bad at the other weapons

is olympian favor or dark foresight better?

[unreal atlas]

foresight for sure imo

although it depends whether you go with Pride or Legacy

[warped crag]

hey guys, random question - is there any reason to go into the administration chambers or hades' chamber after each run? i've done about 40 clears now, but have been going in in case i need to get anything from there - but if i can avoid it that'd be better

[half zephyr]

nope

you have to enter for some prophecy side story bond stuff at some point, but other then that the only reason to enter is to check on your run history & such

[brisk trail]

Why am I up rn?

[delicate ember]

aspect of zeus is maxed now!

im gonna fulfilt the prophecy of all heat conditions then begin with other weapons maybe

oh ffs i have to max mirror first

[delicate ember]

ahh i cant dodge

im so bad

with anything but shield

[delicate ember]

triple jab + dire misfortune is op

with doom on attack ofc

[timid parrot]

Try using any of the cast aspects. Those can make runs insanely easy if you’re lucky on the cast boon

[distant flower]

What's better, Stubborn Defiance or Death Defiance?

I got Death Defiance lvl 2 almost 3

[half zephyr]

depends on playstyle, preference & heat

[distant flower]

Uuuh I dodge-strike with a spear pretty much

[half zephyr]

try it out & see if you like it

you'll be using it as some point for a prophecy anyways

[distant flower]

I kinda want to focus on actually getting out of the 3rd floor rather than prophecies for now...

Minotaur is giving me a hard time

[half zephyr]

well, good luck

[distant flower]

Strong Drink or Positive Outlook?

Ugh it's so hard to choose

[half zephyr]

strong drink is good, but idk how many fountains you've unlocked yet
positive outlook might be better if you just wanna try to get the run done

[brisk trail]

strong drink is better the earlier you get it

so in elysium...meh

[distant flower]

I was not in Elysium I was in Tartarus

[delicate ember]

YES

beat hades with sword

3 weapons down, 3 to go

[half zephyr]

[delicate ember]

im so bad at dodging without shield

[half zephyr]

just dash

dash-strike

[delicate ember]

yes ik\

[half zephyr]

the easiest to dodge with is zag fist

[delicate ember]

im still bad

[half zephyr]

since you start with dodge chance

[delicate ember]

should i choose legacy or pride?

[half zephyr]

legacy

duos are beautiful & legendaries are nice too

[delicate ember]

now that i have all the weapons and mirror unlocked are keys needed at all?

[gray dust]

If not looking for anything specific, go for pride

[delicate ember]

yo what no hades fight

strange

[half zephyr]

ah, the 10th

[delicate ember]

oohh credits

[signal aspen]

Nice

[delicate ember]

i wonder what zagreus' intentions for escaping will be now

damn this song slaps

[half zephyr]

you'll soon find out!

[dusky wedge]

And now, the real grind starts

[delicate ember]

hmm most of the aspects for anything but spear and shield arent great

[half zephyr]

wha

[signal aspen]

[half zephyr]

eris is great

nem is great

arthur is fun

[signal aspen]

Guan Yu is the best

[half zephyr]

shush

[signal aspen]

Ok

[half zephyr]

luci is fun

[delicate ember]

i domnt rl get uan yu

what does it do

also i havent unlocked it yet lmap

[half zephyr]

takes away max hp, but heals you

that's the basics

it's not very beginner friendly

[delicate ember]

i maxed out hades

[signal aspen]

Ew

[half zephyr]

zag fist is fun, talos is fun, dem idk about myself

[signal aspen]

Aspect of Dem is insane

[half zephyr]

and while I have issues with bow in general, I will admit that chiron & rama are good aspects

[delicate ember]

for now i have maxed zeus and hades, and im buying a few random stuff so i can unlock guan yu and arthur

[signal aspen]

Rama can destroy things

[delicate ember]

zeus is the best

[half zephyr]

on shield

[delicate ember]

ye

[signal aspen]

Hera can also get you big number

[half zephyr]

I like arthur
just slow easy fun

and zag fist for dodge runs

and eris & luci are fun cuz BOOM

[signal aspen]

Eris is the best aspect in the game for damage

[half zephyr]

tru

[delicate ember]

anyway im just buying around to unlock the hiddens, then ill max out the best aspect of each weapon one at a time

for now im working on escaping with each weapon once

for the prophecy

[half zephyr]

well, the best is..

how do you decide what's "the best" for you without trying it?
and some of them do need a bit more then lvl 1 to truly shine

[signal aspen]

Guan Yu is good on any level

[half zephyr]

not beginner friendly

[signal aspen]

It is very beginner friendly

It teaches them how to get gud

[gray dust]

Just got to take everything and anything that grants you health

[half zephyr]

[twilit osprey]

no i mean I beat him no problem on my 1st try

[delicate ember]

Well I’ll pick the one that seems most appealing to me and explore the others later

I just want 1 decent aspect maxed out on each weapon

[half zephyr]

Nemesis, Chiron, Talos/Demeter, Eris
you said you'd already maxed 1 on shield & spear so here's some decent ones

[warped fiber]

just started playing this game today, loving it so much

can’t stop playing

[half zephyr]

welcome to the game!

beware that this channel has casual spoilers - both story & gameplay

[delicate ember]

Nice. Maybe try to keep to #h1-for-new-players tho there can be major spoilers here

[warped fiber]

oh, thanks for the heads up!

[half zephyr]

np

[delicate ember]

I suggest keeping out until the credits roll

[half zephyr]

though there can still be spoilers beyond that, so if you wanna be blind don't look in here until you feel you're ready for it

[warped fiber]

alright, that’ll take a while probably

[half zephyr]

I do mean it when I say we've got casual spoilers - things just get mentioned & dropped in here

[half zephyr]

good luck!

[warped fiber]

thanks!

[brisk trail]

Hi everyone, I am a new Hades player. I have already escaped 30 times and 2 attempts were successful. Do you have any best builds for Zagreus so I can get to 10 escapes and find Persephone? Thanks in advance for your help

[half zephyr]

maybe someone in #h1-builds-and-combat got something for you?

[brisk trail]

ok i will ask

[half zephyr]

idk how I do it myself - I just set out with a duo in mind & build towards it, but make sure I can survive if I don't get it

[brisk trail]

yea i mean i do the same thing. Im trying to get duo but i dont know which one is the best for spear

Fellas true ending is 10 wins right?

yea

[half zephyr]

why is it called the true ending when there's only 1 ending anyways

I mean, there is the epilogue but that's after the ending & all >.>

[narrow hemlock]

because a lot of people don't immediately realize there's more to the story past the credits. its just semantics really

[half zephyr]

the only time I'm used to seeing "true ending" is in games w multiple different endings

[half zephyr]

aah

the ones new to roguelites & roguelikes

I see

[narrow hemlock]

people just called it like that since its not an obvious thing and it stuck i guess

cause a lot of people will prob think the credits are the end of the main narrative, which... i mean i guess in a way its true? the epilogue ties up some loose ends remaining after the credits so that might be why the "true ending" came about, no idea

[half zephyr]

but people refer to the credits as true ending

not the epilogue

it is what it is I guess

[narrow hemlock]

its just semantics really, just let people call it what they want lol

its all one thing anyway

the only thing i can think of is maybe it came from early access people, since early access had no ending

[grave kayak]

GAAAAHHHH I went to hades with no death defys and got him to 1/4 on the second phase....my heart is racing and I lost noooo

[half zephyr]

[grave kayak]

Sigh

I was sooo close I had a regen ability I was trying to stay away from him

The waves got me

[manic bobcat]

Just call it First Clear - End Credit - Epilogue - Farming for Badges

[south comet]

ah, well I can see that

in my opinion though, meg is easier than the bone hydra

even EM1 meg is super easy to me

meg is actually better as an assist with tisiphone/alecto than she is when she's the actual boss

at least in my opinion

[half zephyr]

I’m not the one calling it true ending >.>
I like yours more

[half zephyr]

EM1 is easy in general

[signal aspen]

thats why its worth 1 heat

everything thats worth 1 heat is easy

besides hs

[half zephyr]

was gonna say

[signal aspen]

and dc on certain weapons

[manic bobcat]

HS is free if you don't step on traps.

[signal aspen]

yes

[cerulean rover]

Lmao I'm here in hopes that one day, I, a child will own this game

A child worth 14 years of life

[manic bobcat]

get it on Epic Store right now for $10.

cheapest it has ever been

[cerulean rover]

Isn't it cheaper on steam? Or am I wrong

[signal aspen]

nah its 25 usd

[cerulean rover]

Oof

[manic bobcat]

They are the same price, on sale right now at $20 (20% off)

[cerulean rover]

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