#h1-discussion

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half zephyr
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I've done that on my switch before & it does not save the run

simple blaze
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quit usually saves what room you’re in

signal aspen
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yeah

simple blaze
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dunno why it’s not doing that for you

half zephyr
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cuz it's a force quit

signal aspen
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give up goes back to the last time you saved in the house of hades

half zephyr
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as in I close down the game without saving mid-fight

signal aspen
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bruh

half zephyr
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well, more like mid death

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it's only happened twice cuz panic hehe

unborn pagoda
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Spoiler: Post-Game ||HADES REACTS TO HIS OWN KEEPSAKE IN HIS FIGHT THAT'S SO COOL||

signal aspen
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yeah its cool

unborn pagoda
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Like, he legit delays his own attacks to try and hit you

lapis needle
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Hello, on the wiki it says it's possible to get persephone to return to tartarus by giving her nectar, but whenever I meet her it doesn't give me the option to do that?

signal aspen
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after ten clears you can give her nectar

lapis needle
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ah okay

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thank you :)

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And could you also explain to me how to get the hidden aspects?

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The wiki wasn't being very clear on that part

lapis needle
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Thank you again :)

limber leaf
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the thing with hidden aspects is that you need to atleast reach hades first but its okay if you wont kill him

lapis needle
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Does the aspect of zagerues count torwards unlocking 5 different aspects?

limber leaf
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the first hidden aspect youll get is always guan yu and the rest will follow the more you progress with it

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you need atleast 5 titan blood spent on the weapon

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yeah maxing out zag aspects count too

signal aspen
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i would put them into non zag aspects anyway because non zag aspects are better than zag aspects

limber leaf
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i think you just need 5 titan blood spent on the weapon. it doesnt matter what aspect it is

lapis needle
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so i dont need to max out an aspect?

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I can just spend 5 titan blood?

limber leaf
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yeah

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5 each weapon

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and talk to the people that have the awakening phrase

signal aspen
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that part takes a lot of rng

limber leaf
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nah just secure guan yu first

signal aspen
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yeah but getting guan yu also takes rng

lapis needle
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Thank you for all the help :)

signal aspen
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np

limber leaf
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and you dont need to put blood guanyu to unlock the rest

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no probs bro

void vigil
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i am pretty sure zag aspects do not count towards "unlocking" aspects, but they do count towards "investing" in aspects. so to unlock guan yu dont put the blood in zag aspects, but to unlock the other ones its fine to put it in zag aspects

warm charm
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zag's aspects do not count for unlocking aspects
thou shalt spend titan blood on non-zag aspects

limber leaf
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oh ok. my bad my smooth brain dont work at midnight

livid canyon
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uh can i ask does the 10k gold to get Charon final heart only count toward normal shop or,does the final shop at Ceberus chamber count

signal aspen
livid canyon
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then that's

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kinda weird since

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im sure i did like

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over 20 run

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sometimes even purchase the last shop most expensive item

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but i still dont get it yet

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is this a glitch

signal aspen
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might be bad rng

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have you maxed him out on nectar yet?

livid canyon
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wym

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yes

limber leaf
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ambrosia?

livid canyon
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only locked heart

signal aspen
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a lot of the dialogue in hades is rng

livid canyon
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bru

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so i have to

limber leaf
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yeah

livid canyon
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get the right dialog

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with Charon ?

signal aspen
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ye

limber leaf
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keep on talking to charon

livid canyon
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it did for like

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thounsand of time

limber leaf
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always take shops and kill him if possible

signal aspen
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fighting him isnt that worth it

limber leaf
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sometimes if youre short on the obols

livid canyon
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wait u can dialog after fighting him ?

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i always just take the card and leave

signal aspen
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i dont think so

limber leaf
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he just teleports you

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zag has a convo with him in the next encounter tho

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the first time you beat him

glad leaf
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is there a way to tell if you are going to get ME/is there a way to get ME more of the time?

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im basically just wondering about all the info on acquiring ME

signal aspen
glad leaf
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gods legacy i mean

signal aspen
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gods legacy is a mirror upgrade

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its second to last, and its yellow

south comet
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Which aspect do yall use for the stygian blade mainly?

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I personally use nemesis

signal aspen
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i use nemesis for high heat

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but most of the time i will use arthur

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because its fun

south comet
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Yeah nemesis is pretty damn strong

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I don't have arthur unlocked yet

signal aspen
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arthur slaps really hard

south comet
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Ya think zagreus is good with sword?

signal aspen
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zag aspect?

south comet
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Yes

signal aspen
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no not really

south comet
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Is it good on any weapon?

signal aspen
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yeah

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shield, bow, fists, and rail

south comet
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Shield? Didn't expect that

signal aspen
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its great

south comet
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But yeah on second thought it has to be good with rail and fists

signal aspen
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yeah zag rail is really good

south comet
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So many builds I wanna try with new aspects

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But I gotta beat the game to get more blood

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I have a pretty good run going rn, I'm at temple of styx with all 3 of my death defies

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Imma try to beat the game on that run once I get back home today

signal aspen
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nice

south comet
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But somehow I feel like hades will kick my ass

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I never got to him before

signal aspen
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yeah hades is really strong

south comet
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But guess we'll see

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Maybe with 3 death defies I'll be able to beat him on my first try who knows

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All I know about him is that ||iirc when you take him down his health goes back to full||

signal aspen
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ye he has a second phase

south comet
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Maybe my athena left clicks will cheese him like it did with the 3rd boss

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Lmao

signal aspen
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well you cant deflect everything

south comet
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I know

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Okay bot

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When I attack at the same time as a non reflectable move it says defiance or something

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Like if it parries the hit

south comet
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Idk what it says

signal aspen
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if it says defiance that means you died

south comet
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But it looked like I could parry some hits

signal aspen
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but you had a death defiance

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you cant parry things

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but you can block with shield

south comet
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Then I guess I'm dumb idk

brisk trail
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Yo why is it so difficult to encounter thanatos? I just want to love him and give him love ಥ_ಥ

signal aspen
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yeah im pretty sure you just died but you had a death defiance

south comet
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I still have all 3

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So that's not it

signal aspen
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did it say deflected?

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wait you said non reflectable

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what attack did you "parry"

south comet
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I probably was confused idk

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Because I probably deflected theseus's spear

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Wait

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Does it say something when you dodge a hit with the hermes boon?

signal aspen
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yeah

south comet
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That must be it

signal aspen
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oh

south comet
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Because the bull sometimes didn't do damage to me

signal aspen
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yeah you dodged his hits then

south comet
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Anyways

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Hopefully I can beat the game later today

signal aspen
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yeah

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you can do it

gleaming forge
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guys i why i didn't get any achievements for hades ?

crude moon
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Being good enough to take on the Minotaur duo with relative ease is one hell of a skill boost for me ngl

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Just 2 days ago I was struggling

signal aspen
crude moon
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Isn't there only one platform?

signal aspen
crude moon
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Oh ok

crude surge
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Switch doesn't have them if thats what your on

gleaming forge
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steam

signal aspen
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What achievement are you trying to get

gleaming forge
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Escaped Tartarus

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i play the game for hours and cannot get this trophy

signal aspen
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So you made it to the lava area?

gleaming forge
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no 0_0

signal aspen
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Yeah

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You gotta do that

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Kill the boss at the end to get the achievement

mossy finch
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whenever grandma gives me winter harvest it makes my day instantly better

signal aspen
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Winter harvest is awesome

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But it is really hard to get

mossy finch
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yeah, my run has been pretty lucky so far, ive gotten 2 legendaries both in elysium

signal aspen
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Nice

south comet
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Yall think the devs will eventually add new weapons or aspects?

signal aspen
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Yeah

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But don't get your hopes up

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They are taking a break

south comet
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Yeah I was just asking

signal aspen
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Alright

sick heron
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Hi everyone!

So, I was playing Hades on my switch and I noticed I was disconnected from the cross-save feature. So I went back to the menu to relink my Epic account but when it gave me the list of ways to log in to chose from it... didn't work. I use xbox live to log in to Epic and the Switch doesn't want to open the web page allowing me to do so... Does someone have a fix? I really don't recall having any problem loging in the first time!

Thanks, hope someone can help me x)

signal aspen
sick heron
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oops, my bad! Gonna try there! Thanks!

unborn remnant
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Rare Crop goated

mossy finch
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i just stole from charon and ... that was not what i was expecting haha

crude surge
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fight is no joke

opaque radish
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Yeah I rarely fight him

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What's the diff between heroic and legendary? Is it just that heroic boons are higher than epic and must be traded to achieve, whereas legendary boons are much more excellent abilities?

crude surge
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Heroic boons can only be offfered by exchanging an epic boon

unborn remnant
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Heroic is the highest tier of a normal boon

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Legendaries are entire unique abilities

mossy finch
crude surge
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You can level up an epic boon to get a heroic one with some things like rare crop or Euridice

unborn remnant
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Correct me if i'm wrong

crude surge
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Legendary boons are there own thing that have prerequisites like Duo Boons

south comet
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goddamn it, I was so close to killing ||Hades|| on my first try

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he had like a third of his hp left in his 2nd phase

prime lantern
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if i start another save file would i get different dialogues?

signal aspen
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No

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But it kinda depends on what dialogue you are talking about

prime lantern
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i mean the random dialogue you trigger by just playing and not some quest

signal aspen
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Yeah you will get the same dialogue

prime lantern
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that maybe gets cancelled if you didnt trigger before progressing the story

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i mean there's 20000 lines of dialogue and i keep getting repetitive ones

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i assume most of those get lost once you proggres or something

brisk trail
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well some dialogue is related to your actions in a particular run

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like hypnos

prime lantern
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right maybe it's me the one being repetitive, not doing anything different

patent burrow
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I GOT THE VACCINE

south comet
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wouldn't it be cool if they added a 2 player coop mode

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where you'd play zag and thanatos

wintry lake
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the basic mechanics seem fit for a MOBA type thing lol

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though that would probably be wildly unbalanced

sturdy sphinx
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gg

edgy jacinth
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Theseus and Minotaur are hard

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What’s the strat?

crude surge
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Kill Mino first

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make use of the pillars

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If you dont say hi to your supporter after than your 100% guaranteed to die in the next room

wintry lake
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well, eventually you learn the timing for the way the Minotaur swings, at that point just dash away

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also enable god mode lol, it makes the game more bearable

sick mortar
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Just did the Bad Call achievement, now I'm really interested to know what the voicelines for the other gods are

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Aphrodite says "Don't make me angrier than I already am"... anyone knows what the other gods says?

misty harbor
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new update? daphQuack

patent burrow
narrow hemlock
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they may be referring to the fact an update was pushed out today, but its possibly just bug fixes/localization things due to the fact there was no announcement

misty harbor
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Yeah I was referring to that shadesmile

hallow gate
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How many lines does the old man have for when you beat hades

unborn remnant
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many

surreal canopy
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Every time you beat him they add a new line

chilly sonnet
# edgy jacinth What’s the strat?

Patience, unless you're running Tight Deadline.
Learn Minotaur's attack patterns, they're pretty predictable once you learn them and they're not too hard to avoid if you play carefully.
Just focus Minotaur at first. Theseus doesn't really do anything besides throw a spear at you every like 10 seconds which you can dash from if you know the timing or just hide behind one of the many pillars.
Theseus has two attacks in his first phase, both are easy to avoid. Once you take out Minotaur just whittle him down, and once he enters his second phase he'll be vulnerable for a couple seconds so you can wail on him, while also avoiding the summons. Then just basically do the same thing you did before while also avoiding the summons.

I despised Theseus when I first started playing and part of me still does but it's not as unfair as it seems once you get used to it.

edgy jacinth
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This makes sense

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I actually did this strat just now

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I died because I started the match with very low health

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Like 40 HP, but I already took down Minotaur first then had Theseus about three quarters down

modern garnet
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You'll get em next time

south comet
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which god gives the boon that replenishes 1 death defy again?

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is it athena

glossy ivy
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Yes

modern garnet
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Yep

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She's got 2 boons like that!

south comet
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hopefully I get one in temple of styx

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I just used up one of my death defies at theseus and the bull

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like a dumbass

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2 now

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this run is dead lol

sick mortar
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I once had a dual boon room in the smallest possible map on elysium

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I picked aphrodite first as usual, thinking demeter is easy to deal with

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turns out when the room is that small demeter will give you an ass-whoopin'

crude surge
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you could also buy a kiss of Styx

modern garnet
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I never get a well in styx when I need one

balmy delta
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Tips for the fist weapon?

crude surge
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Use your dash strike to perma stagger enemies

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Special builds arent greeat

modern garnet
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With fist, you dash a lot

simple blaze
chilly sonnet
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In case this helps anyone: To max your bonds with all the characters, you'll need a total of 160 nectar and 56 Ambrosia.

edgy jacinth
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How much nectar per character

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And what does a full bond do?

modern garnet
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usually 5 or 6 nectar per character

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full bond does nothing

hollow hawk
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And try to get jolted and zeus legendary

broken nest
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Howdy. Should I unlock the erebus gate from the house contractor? Costs 5 diamond. There are several other items that cost diamonds I could unlock instead.

brisk trail
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Erebus Gates are high risk, high reward.

broken nest
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Interesting.

modern garnet
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erebus gates only work if you have enough heat for them

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so don't get em unless you're ready for at least 5 heat

broken nest
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Oh. Okay I am still at heat 1, so maybe I won't do this.

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Thank you

sharp oracle
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yeah if i remember 6 heat for tartarus 10 for asphodel and 16 for elysium

modern garnet
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I think it's 5, 10, 15

sharp oracle
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ah yeah it is

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mb

south comet
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lmao

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the first bond I maxed was with charon

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also I beat the game for the first time

brisk trail
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Beat the final boss? Nice!

cerulean ferry
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Congrats!!

deep locust
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does anyone know if anything special happens if you bring the chaos egg to the hades fight

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there was some dialogue from Chaos about it

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was wondering if there was an achievement tied to it

uncut dagger
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yeah there's a prophecy tied to it

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if you beat Father with the Egg then you fulfill the prophecy and bing bang boom you get something for it

deep locust
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is that a hidden prophecy i gotta unlock first or

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can i just do it whenever/

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?

cerulean rover
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can just do it whenever, I think

deep locust
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:0

cerulean rover
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in fact I remember I had this absolutely amazing run, figured might as well try the egg thing

uncut dagger
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when you have the prophecy unlocked that says "beat Father with the Cosmic Egg" then you can do it

cerulean rover
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grabbed egg

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went to hades

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didn't want to fight T_T

uncut dagger
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which I think is unlocked after that conversation

opaque radish
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Best way to farm gemstones? I'm thinking a Pos/chaos build?

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Like that's my most needed resource now cause I'm just unlocking visual stuff and companion upgrades

uncut dagger
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well I think the first step would be to upgrade the Dark Thirst so that it gets +20% Gems as well

opaque radish
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Oo yeah forgot about DT

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But it's gotta be on a weapon I can use well. But I guess I don't need to use any heat

uncut dagger
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yeah, in fact, using no heat would help
if you also have bought the thing that drops Gems after every boss fight

opaque radish
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Hmm not familiar with that

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Is that a WoC item?

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Or a boon?

uncut dagger
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oh it's an upgrade you get from teh Contractor

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oh shoot how far are you into the game

opaque radish
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I'm on multiple heat levels with all weapons

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Highest is 17

uncut dagger
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no I mean story-wise

opaque radish
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Oh done with that too

uncut dagger
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alright

opaque radish
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Epilogue

uncut dagger
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so the HC should be selling that

modern garnet
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some fated quests give big gems

uncut dagger
opaque radish
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Done all the fated quests

uncut dagger
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I'm still working on getting Poseidon's Legendary, he just absolutely refuses to give that to me

modern garnet
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damn and thats one of the disappointing ones too

uncut dagger
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yeah

opaque radish
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All I have left to unlock is really just contractor stuff, heats, and companion upgrades

uncut dagger
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😔 my life is so hard

opaque radish
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So DT on a weapon, Pos build early, chaos build next

uncut dagger
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yeah

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DT is also a good way to experiment and practice with other weapons

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I really like the inclusion of DT into this game, it's so subtle, yet so genius

opaque radish
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Yeah nearly every aspect of the game has some replay value

uncut dagger
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nearly?

opaque radish
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And incentives to "do something else"

uncut dagger
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which ones don't

opaque radish
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Lol I suppose.... I guess that was just a safety statement lol

uncut dagger
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ah

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I've had those safety statements before

opaque radish
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I can't think of one but there COULD be one

uncut dagger
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I dunno, I think all of them are special and unique in their own ways

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some offer good Cast Builds, some offer good Special Builds, some offer great Wide Putin builds, etc., etc.

dusky wedge
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Imo, in my experience, DT doesn’t feel like it works, it only rewards you for trying something new but doesn’t really pulls you in to go and try new stuffs in the first place

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It only works when you do want to try new stuffs, but if you aren’t interested in the first place, it does nothing

sacred tendon
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(it's clearly because they just added the image of the claw marks on top, but it's still funny that they forgot to add a trigger to remove them if you open the passage)

opaque radish
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Cerby dmg?

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I didn't even know there was a passage to open lol

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Yeesh this game

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Still learning about it 260 hours in

sacred tendon
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you need to ask for a number of contractor work orders before some new ones appear

half zephyr
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as if cerbs marks would just be on the wall & not be tears in space itself hehe

toxic beacon
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Today Hades downloaded a small 13mb update. Now every time I start the game it says: "Steam was unable to sync your files for Hades witht he Steam Cloud." I tried searching for solutions online (like verifying integrity of local game files in steam) but it's not working. So I come here for help. Anyone else having this issue after the game updated?

quaint wind
spiral moon
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how's everybody doing tonight

half zephyr
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I don't know yet

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will have to wait until tonight to answer that

spiral moon
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i mean this morning, or whatever timezone😭

half zephyr
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hehe
reading & looking forward to playing hades again next week

spiral moon
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im about to hop on now, it has been such a long day

half zephyr
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I haven't played in nearly 2 weeks

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been babysitting hehe

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I look forward to making a new escape attempt - the question is, do I use my main file or my hell mode file ia_think_thonk

uncut ore
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now that I got a good gun build I just need to grind, grind, grind until I win

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still I think the fact that I can easily win with shield win no aspects with heat without any build makes it a superior weapon by a lot

brisk trail
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you say this like every day

uncut ore
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lmao yeah

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sorry about that

spiral moon
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i genuinely think charon is harder than hades

uncut ore
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its just that I try grinding every single day

uncut ore
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thing is you sometimes fight him with no boons

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or like very little boons

spiral moon
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idk once all the pillars are down it's kinda hard to dodge his swing and the ghost thingies

uncut ore
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yeah I didnt get to that part of the battle

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so theres a hard 2nd part?

spiral moon
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yea

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he drops 2 pillars at first, then the last 2 once you get him low enough

half zephyr
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good to see you're still here to play

spiral moon
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rn i'm using the fists with demeter aspect and i kept backstabbing whenever cutter was charged

half zephyr
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boonless runs

uncut ore
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I dont think I ever played fists

uncut ore
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then you have very little boons

half zephyr
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yes, I'm saying that you can do that with Hades too

uncut ore
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also btw I heard from someone that the 10% duo boon

half zephyr
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and charon has.. 3 phases?

uncut ore
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only works if you have a melee, dash, special, call and cast

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already

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is that true?

uncut ore
half zephyr
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there's all pillars

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he takes down some pillars

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then he takes down all pillars

uncut ore
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ooo theres a hades update

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did they change anything?

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or is it just bugfixes

spiral moon
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if they added dlc

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i would pull out my wallet so fast

half zephyr
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I'm not so sure I would ia_think_thonk

it would depend on what the dlc was

spiral moon
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battle out of olympusshadesmile

brisk trail
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ive owned this game for less than 3 weeks and i have 110 hours

spiral moon
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ive been playing for about a month and have 87

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i love bouldy

dusky wedge
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Of course, I will also openly critique their games and design choices like any other online fella out there though lmao

half zephyr
sinful reef
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Pyres really fun

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Not much replay value in my opinion though

quaint wind
spiral moon
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i love bouldy so much i made him my profile picture

signal aspen
grave kayak
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Question...with the last stand boon it replenishes one death defiance...what if u haven't used one does it give u a bonus one or no

signal aspen
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no

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it replenishes one so it only gives you a DD if you lost one

grave kayak
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Gah

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Ok

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I was like hmm...10% more health upon using it too

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When you come back sry

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How do I change my name color

signal aspen
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#bot-commands

spiral moon
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i would like to sell my luck card of always finding the satyr sack on the 2nd attempt for 50k darkness

signal aspen
spiral moon
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yes

signal aspen
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ok

spiral moon
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thank

signal aspen
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i would like to sell my luck card of always finding the satyr sack on the 2nd attempt for 50k darkness

spiral moon
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wait

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@signal aspen will you take 61 titan blood

signal aspen
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yes

spiral moon
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thank

signal aspen
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ok

spiral moon
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bouldy

signal aspen
simple blaze
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“...”

spiral moon
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bravo! 👏 👏 👏

signal aspen
mossy finch
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do you need extreme measures 3 to get the champion of elysium achievement? I cleared elysium with extreme measures 1 but i didnt get the achievement

signal aspen
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hold on lemme check

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yeah you need em3 to get the achievement

mossy finch
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ah rip

signal aspen
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em1 and em2 dont affect the heroes fight

mossy finch
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oh does em1 only affect maegera?

signal aspen
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yeah

mossy finch
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ah i see

signal aspen
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em1 furies, em2 bone hydra, em3 heroes, em4 hades

mossy finch
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i dont think u can get em4

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well for me atleast, its locked

signal aspen
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you have to buy a work order

mossy finch
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oh okay

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does charon get mad at you after you steal from him? ive noticed that he has worse items in his shop lately

signal aspen
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no

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well yes

#

but it doesnt effect the items in his shop

mossy finch
#

hmm okay, i guess im just unlucky then

stone karma
#

my interest in hades has dropped since i beat it

brisk trail
#

worse items is a matter of perspective

stone karma
#

kind of a bad ending though

#

even though its not the true ending but

mossy finch
#

neasy did you beat it 10 times?

signal aspen
#

bruh

stone karma
mossy finch
#

the story still hasnt finished

signal aspen
#

you cant say its a bad ending if you never even beat it

stone karma
#

i'll play it when im bored

mossy finch
#

even after you beat it though, theres still tonnes of "side-missions" you can complete, with their own story too

signal aspen
#

yeah there is a lot of stuff to do in hades

brisk trail
#

story isnt actualy over till you do some prophecies after the 10 wins too

mossy finch
#

flushedthic lernie with extreme measures is cool

red flax
#

There's a lot more content after clearing it once

#

The whole point of rogue-likes/lites is to have different runs to clear the game

livid canyon
#

i still cant get Charon heart

#

been playing the entire day

spiral moon
crude moon
#

Forgetting I lost my revive and getting slapped around by REDACTED like an idiot

#

Very anti-pog

mossy finch
#

rip

half zephyr
glad leaf
#

is the strat for very low heat runs (1-6) to get as many boons as possible and to play it safe?

signal aspen
#

no not really

glad leaf
#

whats the strategy

signal aspen
#

for low heat you play normally but if you are not that good you should play a little safer

glad leaf
#

what abt rewards

dusky wedge
#

Depending on what conditions you apply, most of the time you’d just play normally

glad leaf
#

what should i go for

glad leaf
#

i like hades bc the more you play it the more fun it gets

signal aspen
dusky wedge
#

Tight Deadline is always free heat

glad leaf
simple blaze
mossy finch
#

i always have damage control maxxed because it makes basically no difference

glad leaf
#

yeah

#

same

simple blaze
glad leaf
#

the 2 heart dc can be a bit annoying

#

but overall its easier than all the other ones

signal aspen
mossy finch
#

the first time i used tight deadline i was just messing with it so i put it at max, accidently beat hades, i went from 2 heat to 8 haha

dusky wedge
#

Yeah, TD3 can be a bit challenging, but if you just have TD3 and nothing else, I think it should still be do-able for most people

glad leaf
mossy finch
#

hermes really helps with td3

dusky wedge
#

Sometimes you’d be barely scraping but, still, very do-able to end

signal aspen
#

it depends on how much money do you have

glad leaf
signal aspen
#

then it depends on what your build is like and what the boon is in the other room

glad leaf
#

alr

#

thanks

#

hera, nemesis, or arthur

#

imo hera is good for safe builds

dusky wedge
#

That is up to you

glad leaf
#

and its less risky than nemesis

#

but nemesis is more powerful

#

arthur is eh for me bc i dont like heavy weapons too much

#

although 3k crits are fun

mossy finch
#

zagreus aspect ftw sunglasso

glad leaf
#

lmao

#

zag sword aspect is not the best

mossy finch
#

oh thats my favourite aspect on sword lmao

simple blaze
#

arthur is fun, but there’s a clear reason you get more health using it

mossy finch
#

i maxxed it out and usually clear hades with zagreus sword

glad leaf
#

well its up to you

#

but overall nemesis can give a 100% dmg boost

mossy finch
#

the speed increase zag gives is nice imo

signal aspen
glad leaf
#

it was a backstab

chilly sonnet
#

What are some good boons for Chaos aspect?

mossy finch
#

jesus

dusky wedge
#

Very ninja

mossy finch
#

streak of 200?? dayum

signal aspen
#

yeah im crazy

chilly sonnet
#

Not really builds but like what are some good boons to start with

mossy finch
#

i like grandma's boons

signal aspen
#

ares special dio special

chilly sonnet
#

I get duo boons very rarely so a buijld like that wont really work

signal aspen
#

you dont really need duos for that build to work tho

mossy finch
#

with fists demeter is always my goto

dusky wedge
#

Athena, no questions asked

spiral moon
#

@signal aspen 300 clears? i thought my 35 was a lot 😭

chilly sonnet
#

I'll probably try Ares special

dusky wedge
chilly sonnet
#

300 clears is not the impressive part

spiral moon
#

how many do you have total now?

chilly sonnet
#

Best streak of 200? monkaS

signal aspen
spiral moon
#

oh geez

#

ill get there eventually

chilly sonnet
#

My best streak is 10 and I thought that was decent lmao

signal aspen
#

lmao

#

im just too good

mossy finch
#

my best streak is 2 lmao

chilly sonnet
#

Also I'm trying to get 20 heat on every weapon but I always just choose the weapon that has dark thirst and shield has dark thirst like every other run

#

so i have like 4-5 heat with sword and 12 with shield

signal aspen
#

doesnt it change every run

chilly sonnet
#

Yeah but it always changes back to shield more than anything else

spiral moon
#

im experiencing that too lol

#

my highest heat on shield is like 10 now and everything else is 5

#

im trying to get darkness to max fated persuasion

signal aspen
simple blaze
#

20 on fists and 5 on sword and shield

chilly sonnet
#

Then I get less darkness, but I like getting more darkness

#

And gems

signal aspen
#

how much darkness do you get per run?

chilly sonnet
#

Well I don't get any from bosses so about 150 maybe

signal aspen
#

bruh

dusky wedge
#

Play on lower heat if you want more darkness

signal aspen
#

you can get 550 darkness from a run if you dont get bounties

dusky wedge
#

Playing for bounties will get you other resources instead

chilly sonnet
#

I'm prioritizing bounties right now

glad leaf
signal aspen
glad leaf
#

u serious?

#

i mean

#

that makes sense

signal aspen
#

yeah

simple blaze
#

smart

glad leaf
#

yeah

chilly sonnet
#

I dont get it

#

You lost your streak because you didnt want to lose your streak later?

signal aspen
#

yeah

glad leaf
#

yea

signal aspen
#

lmao

simple blaze
signal aspen
#

after i got the 200 streak i stopped caring

glad leaf
#

he didn't want to feel bad losing it legit/having the pressure of maintaining the streak weighing him down

dusky wedge
#

Still though, trying to get as many darkness as you can on higher heat is risky I think, as you’d actually want boons and poms instead of gems and darkness

glad leaf
#

gems are eh

signal aspen
#

the streak was stopping me from doing 32 heat

chilly sonnet
#

That makes more sense

mossy finch
#

gems let you but cerberus comfier beds, so they are good in my book :)

chilly sonnet
#

I mean if you were going to intentionally lose it anyway you might as well just gamble on 32 heat

#

Idk what weapon I'm going to use for 32 heat

signal aspen
#

i may or may not have done 32 first try

chilly sonnet
#

Probably chaos or eris

#

I have officially entered Chaos 50 times and have gotten 0 fishing spots

#

Finishing the codex for this is gonna be a nightmare

half zephyr
#

Good luck

signal aspen
#

im not gonna finish the codex

chilly sonnet
#

It seems pretty easy tbh

#

Except the fish will be annoying

#

I still don't have the last category though so maybe that one's tough

signal aspen
#

im not gonna fill every page of this book that i rarely look at

chilly sonnet
#

Tbh if you've played the game that much you've probably done it by accident

signal aspen
#

nah i havent gotten every fish and i havent used any companions other than battie and shady

chilly sonnet
#

Ohhh companions is the last category

signal aspen
#

well ive used mort and fidi but thats it

pulsar fable
#

Where do all of the companions come from? I have Meg and Dusa.

signal aspen
mossy finch
#

skelly gives you one for freeing him

chilly sonnet
#

I have the fish except for the legendary in elysium, sturgeon, and all the chaos fish lol

brisk trail
#

theres than, skelly, achilles and sysophus

chilly sonnet
#

What are the odds of a legendary fish if you get a perfect catch?

signal aspen
#

50%

#

i think

chilly sonnet
#

I've gotten a perfect catch in Greece a few times and have gotten bass each time

#

How do you complete the entries for the companions? just by using them?

signal aspen
#

yeah

chilly sonnet
#

That seems easy then

#

Use them 5 times in a row then die on purpose

signal aspen
#

the problem is that i will never use companion rib, fidi, or antos

sturdy sphinx
#

I did a hoarding slash run again with Sisyphus the whole way through and even beat charon during it

#

Still only got to 2700 obols

chilly sonnet
#

Which ones are those? I know Meg's is good, Bouldy is good, and Skelly seems pretty strong

signal aspen
#

i was talking about skelly, dusa, and achilles

chilly sonnet
#

It seems like it would just be a sort of second acorn in boss fights

#

250 damage is a fair amount

sturdy sphinx
#

Achilles worked okay for Theseus and bull and some annoying duo mini bosses

#

But yeah

brisk trail
#

but you can also just aoe them with meg or than

sturdy sphinx
#

The fact that it's instant and guaranteed (mostly) to hit two targets is cool

signal aspen
sturdy sphinx
#

I know that

#

But this one does it without having to be in a circle

chilly sonnet
#

The only mini boss that still gets on my nerves is middle management megagorgon

#

And maybe some in styx but i hardly ever go for the mini bosses in styx, which i should cause i need 5 more king vermin to complete the codex for enemies

signal aspen
#

those arent that bad for me anymore

#

but i still hate tiny vermin

chilly sonnet
#

I got tiny vermin for the first time the other day and it was so funny i love that they included that

brisk trail
#

tiny vermin will always such

#

suck*

chilly sonnet
#

it's hilarious tho

sturdy sphinx
#

Charon's discount card only works for that run right?

chilly sonnet
#

Yeah

signal aspen
#

yeah

sturdy sphinx
#

Figured

chilly sonnet
#

How hard is that boss fight? I haven't tried it yet

#

On a scale from Megaera to Dad

signal aspen
#

its hard in tartarus and asphodel

mossy finch
#

charon is hard early on

#

when ur in elysium hes pretty easy

chilly sonnet
#

Oh I didnt know it changes

mossy finch
#

nothing changes, its just the amount of boons u have

signal aspen
#

yeah

chilly sonnet
#

Oh that makes sense

signal aspen
#

its just that your build is bad

mossy finch
#

yeah

sturdy sphinx
#

The fight is cheese

mossy finch
#

make sure not to die to him though, dad will make fun of you if charon kills you

sturdy sphinx
#

So many orbs

#

His range is insane

#

I lost a DD to him and almost a second

signal aspen
#

and he does a bunch of damage

mossy finch
#

my DD didnt activate when i fought charon

signal aspen
#

it what

mossy finch
#

shrug i must of lost it without knowing

sturdy sphinx
#

😔

signal aspen
#

oh

mossy finch
#

at first i thought it just doesnt activate because ur fighting charon

#

but i guess not

chilly sonnet
#

speaking of which i just got the obol bag

#

Time to see how hard it is

sturdy sphinx
#

Oh lol

#

Gl

brisk trail
#

gl

chilly sonnet
#

Well it took a dd but I did it

#

Not too bad

#

But I'm also using shield so half of his moves were useless by me holding y lol

sturdy sphinx
#

Oh damn. Shield OP.

chilly sonnet
#

That plus ferocious guard OP

crude moon
#

What??

mossy finch
chilly sonnet
#

this is why i advocate for spoiler tags in this channel

crude moon
#

Wat

#

Charon?

#

Bro

mossy finch
#

yes

sturdy sphinx
#

As you play the game you will encounter things my friend

#

Such as big floating bags of moneys

chilly sonnet
#

You know that shopkeeper in Zelda Link's Awakening that kills you if you steal from him?

#

It's kinda like that

crude moon
#

I thought he has a shield

#

You can break the shield?

#

I guess he has an invisible health bar

chilly sonnet
#

||Sometimes Charon will have a bag of money behind him, if you take it you get 300 obols but you'll get teleported to an Erebus gate where you fight Charon. If you win you get a loyalty card that gives you 20% off all purchases for the rest of the run||

glad leaf
#

is the bag of money pure chance or are there triggers

signal aspen
#

you need to kill final boss to unlock that

chilly sonnet
#

I did extra tunnels in styx and forgot about tight deadline now i have to beat dad in two minutes wish me luck lol

livid canyon
#

i still cant get Charon heart
been playing the entire day

#

is my game bugged

signal aspen
#

just keep spending money

#

are you talking to him?

livid canyon
#

yes

signal aspen
#

ok maybe its bad rng

livid canyon
#

how tf is it bad,that was like 20+ runs

brisk trail
#

yeah i still dont have demeter unlocked and ive had her at max hearts for easily 50 runs

livid canyon
#

same with Demeter

brisk trail
#

granted, i dont take demeter super often, but still

chilly sonnet
#

yeah i have like 35 seconds for phase two

signal aspen
#

for demeter you need to complete the epilogue

chilly sonnet
#

:(

livid canyon
#

yes i did

brisk trail
#

same

signal aspen
#

well rip

livid canyon
#

sigh

chilly sonnet
#

I ran out of time and still won 👍

#

Went ham on the phase 2

glad leaf
#

@signal aspenwhat keepsakes do you use on a nemesis run

#

in general

signal aspen
glad leaf
#

ah i guess tooth isn't useful if you can flawless stuff

#

lol

signal aspen
#

if i already have aphro i will take pom blossom

glad leaf
#

i use

chilly sonnet
#

Do you ever get to go to persephone's garden again after beating the game or do you always just have the mini cutscene thing

glad leaf
#

athena > collar > collar > tooth

brisk trail
#

pom in asphodel?

signal aspen
chilly sonnet
#

Dang

signal aspen
brisk trail
#

ME is nice on nemesis too

signal aspen
#

lemme change it

#

artemis -> aphro/pom -> pom -> acorn or sigil

glad leaf
#

whats the pom boon?

#

i might have forgotten

signal aspen
#

oh uh

half zephyr
#

Level up boons after x rooms

signal aspen
#

persephone keepsake

half zephyr
#

Well, random boon

glad leaf
#

best keepsake overall?

signal aspen
#

there isnt a best keepsake

sturdy sphinx
#

Acorn best for dad time probably. Other best for getting boons

#

Best keepsake feather duster dusaHeart

sturdy sphinx
#

It's indisputable

signal aspen
#

best keepsake is probably shackle when you filled all of your core boon slots

brisk trail
#

oh for sure

#

no doubt about it

sturdy sphinx
#

lol

brisk trail
#

im personally a big fan of switching to plume or butterfly in styx

signal aspen
#

nice

chilly sonnet
#

i used feather duster for my first clear because without fail i got one food every room so i thought you were guaranteed one food per room

signal aspen
#

thats why i play guan yu, for guaranteed healing

chilly sonnet
#

Guan yu residentzag

#

i cannot vibe with that weapon

crude surge
#

But why use anything but acorn in Styx

signal aspen
#

butterfly in styx is good because you can get a max of 8% extra damage from it

crude surge
#

But then you also have to not step in poison

signal aspen
#

yeah i know

#

it was a joke

crude surge
#

Ic

chilly sonnet
#

i mean

#

if youre good at styx you could probably get an extra 30% damage with butterfly

sturdy sphinx
#

I use the nyx shawl sometimes

chilly sonnet
#

its 3% per chamber right?

signal aspen
#

2% per encounter

chilly sonnet
#

oh

signal aspen
#

and it only works for the last room per tunnel

chilly sonnet
#

oh

sturdy sphinx
#

Booo

chilly sonnet
#

thats dumb

#

is that the same for plume too?

signal aspen
#

yeah

chilly sonnet
#

dumb

sturdy sphinx
#

Wait, so do charons well items follow the same rules?

signal aspen
#

no

sturdy sphinx
#

Lol

#

Nice.

vapid narwhal
#

styx mini chambers work for "lasts for x encounter" counting down, and pom blossom leveling up

#

but only the final room counts for plume and butterfly

south comet
#

why can I not give nectar to meg?

#

feels like even when I have nectar I can't give any to her

#

I don't have her keepsake

void vigil
#

if shes talking to another character, you wont be able to gift her

modern garnet
#

you might need to progress the story to unlock a locked heart, or you might need ambrosia instead

stiff musk
#

if he doesnt have the keepsake i would not imagine he would have locked hearts

modern garnet
#

oh yeah brain fart

crude surge
#

Do you have to beat her a few times first?

signal aspen
signal aspen
crude surge
#

ah

uncut dagger
#

I mean @cold iron Hades is on Switch

#

unless you mean Xbox/PS4

signal aspen
#

there are no plans for hades to come to console

cold iron
#

Yea i need it on ps4

#

But didnt they say that they are thinking about it?

uncut dagger
#

they said they're considering opportunities

signal aspen
uncut dagger
#

maybe it'll come to Xbox later down the line, I dunno

signal aspen
#

it might happen in the future

cold iron
#

I hope so

uncut dagger
#

yeah that would be great

cold iron
#

Well thank you both 🙏

uncut dagger
#

more platforms means more people play the game which means I'm super happy

signal aspen
uncut dagger
pulsar fable
#

Is Talos Aspect fun to play? I haven’t used it yet (Demeter since I had the blood to unlock it after unlocking fists) and the special change looks interesting.

uncut dagger
#

I mean fun to play is subjective, you might as well just get it and test it out

pulsar fable
#

True.

unborn remnant
#

I think talos is okay

signal aspen
#

talos is fun but its not as good as demeter

unborn remnant
#

C Tier

#

Gilgamesh is my favorite

#

demeter is kinda tame

half zephyr
#

gilga is meh for me

crude surge
#

I like talos

#

Also fun to yoink skelly onto the balcony

#

Gilg just feels awkward to use imo

signal aspen
#

gilg is slow

#

and the dash attacks deal no damage

#

the special is useless

#

the maim makes you take more damage for some reason

crude surge
#

Gilg is everything that makes me dislike the sword but you have weaker dash attacks for some reason even though you also get two more dashes which is nice except the dash attack is bad

uncut dagger
#

I don't really like the dash-upper tbh, without remapping the controls, it feels awkward to pull off and I wouldn't ever do it if I didn't have to

#

or felt obligated to

crude surge
#

same

signal aspen
#

dash upper on fists is really good

#

dash upper on gilg is really bad

uncut dagger
#

#buffGilgaspect

crude surge
#

I never remember to use my dash upper unless I have the hammer for it

uncut dagger
#

yeah

#

same

crude surge
#

which I dont even grab much

signal aspen
#

the dash upper damage is increased by hunters dash and chaos dash strike boons

uncut dagger
#

yeah but wouldn't the dash strike be increased as well?

signal aspen
#

yeah

uncut dagger
#

so then what's the point

signal aspen
#

the dash upper damage will be insane with those boons

crude surge
#

Has significant endlag though

signal aspen
#

thats not a problem if you kill everything

crude surge
#

But I can also just use dash strike to avoid getting hit in the first placce

#

and another enemy can just hit you

#

And like Go Kart said it kind of feels weird to use

signal aspen
#

well thats just you guys

#

i guess dash upper is bad

#

even though the damage is really high

signal aspen
uncut dagger
#

well

#

for me

hollow hawk
uncut dagger
#

unedited controls

hollow hawk
#

If that's what you mean

#

kbm dash uppers are super weird

#

And hard to aim

uncut dagger
#

press the South button, then move your finger fast to the North button

hollow hawk
#

So i dont blame you for that

uncut dagger
#

it's just kinda wakward

hollow hawk
#

Also, fist dash upper just straight up does more dmg on demeter charged special

#

Even without any boons or hammers

crude surge
#

Awkward to press close together

hollow hawk
#

yeah it is weird to use

crude surge
#

With attack being on the right button you can easily do both at once

hollow hawk
#

But you cant deny the dmg

signal aspen
#

wait you cant change controls on switch

crude surge
#

you can

#

But then you have to relearn it and most of the time having it on X works well

signal aspen
#

so you dont like the controls that you have rn but you wont change them

crude surge
#

I dont like them for using dash upper

#

But like them for everything else

crude surge
#

^

#

The only time I see myself actually changing controls is for hestia

uncut dagger
#

oh yeah

#

how would I change the controls of that to make it more effective

sturdy sphinx
#

Hyper Sprint is actually good thanks for coming to my Ted talk

hollow hawk
#

well yeah

crude surge
#

you could swap codex and reload maybe?

hollow hawk
#

Hyper sprint + rd is the best dmg modifier in the game

#

rd = rush delivery

signal aspen
#

hyper deliver is one of the best boon combos in the game

hollow hawk
#

pressure points + hunter's mark is probably the 2nd best

sturdy sphinx
#

Wait I had no idea that rush counted hyper as a move speed buff

hollow hawk
#

it does

signal aspen
#

you move faster, so its a move speed buff

hollow hawk
#

So if you have epic rush delivery (100% dmg from movement), you get literal double dmg

sturdy sphinx
#

But you don't always move faster

signal aspen
hollow hawk
#

You will be dashing 90% of the time

sturdy sphinx
#

Wow I'm sure I've not picked that before because I didn't think it would work

hollow hawk
#

And will get the buff

signal aspen
#

so for the duration of your dash and the time after your dash you get extra damage

sturdy sphinx
#

Oh it actually only triggers during dash?

hollow hawk
#

During and after

signal aspen
#

during dash and the time after your dash

hollow hawk
#

For 0.5-0.7 seconds after your dash (depending on hyper sprint's rarity)

sturdy sphinx
#

Wow. I guess that makes sense

#

I guess this is why I joined the discord

hollow hawk
#

This is why hyper delivery is such a sought-after combo in speedruns of the game

#

If you get it, you can possibly double your damage, which is pretty insane

sturdy sphinx
#

I just meant hyper sprint was good because it let's you dodge bull and Hades super easily

#

Didn't even think about that damage stack

signal aspen
sturdy sphinx
#

I'm finally breaking into the 10's on heat. I'm at 12 on blade and bow

signal aspen
#

nice

sturdy sphinx
#

Going to have to start putting on that time limit 😩

crude surge
#

sad

tender kestrel
clear python
#

Hmmm

#

What is the deal with the last bow aspect?

#

I mean im not sure to get what the technique does

humble cloud
#

So, I have a quick question, I got Meg's plushie but I cant summon it, do I need to use it along meg's regular keepsake for being able to ?

signal aspen
half zephyr
#

until you get permission*

signal aspen
humble cloud
#

Couldn't use it against skelly to test it either

signal aspen
#

yeah you cant use it there

half zephyr
#

ye, you're in the house

humble cloud
#

Didn't try in any other chambers tho

half zephyr
#

you can't do that there

humble cloud
#

That's probably it then lol

#

Thanks

signal aspen
clear python
#

:ooo

#

Thank you for explaining!

signal aspen
#

np

carmine ravine
brisk trail
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Kinda.

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It actually works identically to Mirage Shot.

balmy delta
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How to remember all the boons man😭

brisk trail
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Any enemy marked with Shared Suffering will take an additional hit every time you Attack something, to the tune of 60% of your final Attack damage.

balmy delta
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I haven’t even heard of shared suffering hahaa

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Sounds so good

brisk trail
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Mark 5 enemies with Special, then Attack just one for 100 damage, then all marked enemies take a seperate hit for 60 damage, including enemies you Attack.

half zephyr
brisk trail
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So if you get 3 in a row then hit them with a 100 damage Attack, every time an enemy takes direct damage from your Attack, everything marked gets ticked.

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Twin Shot effectively turns Shared Suffering into a 120% damage buff.

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Is the way I'm explaining this making sense?

balmy delta
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Oh so like that one dishonored ability
Think it was dominoe

brisk trail
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Sorry, I haven't played Dishonored.

balmy delta
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Nah you good it makes sense

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Just gotta hope for the rng to come through

simple blaze
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what characters should i prioritize nectar and ambrosia on?

brisk trail
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probably meg is my best suggestion for that

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||she can give you a companion, and hers is nice, plus she's not too hard to unlock ||

simple blaze
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meg was actually the first one i maxed out the bond for

brisk trail
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oh nice

simple blaze
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pretty close to maxing out persephone, nyx, orpheus, sisyphus and skelly

brisk trail
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if you havent already, max out 6 of the olympian gods

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doesnt matter which 6

simple blaze
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alright

brisk trail
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Once you have everyone's Keepsakes and ||Companions||, whoever you like the most.

crude moon
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is there a reason beyond worldbuilding when i picked up an artemis boon and she went "lol speak to zeus, he showed up too" and he went "damn bro artemis got some cool boons, take em"

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i just think thats cool

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i love how the dialogue changes based on how many hearts you have with gods ngl

stiff musk
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i think thats the cue for duo boon

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i wouldnt know

crude moon
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yeah there was a duo boon, albeit useless

crude surge
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Lightning rod is great

compact badger
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It is! Helps a lot with boss fights

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Also the conversational banter is so fun

crude moon
compact badger
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The boon doesn't need other lightning boons to be good. It's all about dem bloodstones

high island
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You can max affinity for all the characters eventually.

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So play in whichever way you like. You're not locking yourself out of any content.

uncut dagger
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actually, weirdly, I got a Bond with Charon really easily

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I'd say go for that first since it's really easy (at least for me)

brisk trail
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Hi guys!!!

uncut dagger
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hey!

brisk trail
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how are you?

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Sorry if I misspell I'm learning English I'm from Argentina

uncut dagger
brisk trail
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oh! Okey sorry

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❤️

modern garnet
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Bond with charon is easy because you're (almost) guaranteed to see charon every run

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Every other character you can gift doesn't always show up

wheat blaze
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I haven't played Hades since July of 2020, have they added much to the game since then?

signal aspen
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Yeah

wheat blaze
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any new levels, gods things like that? I know they were going to add the true final boss to the game

signal aspen
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Well I didn't play in early access but I know that tons of things have changed

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So if you still have it you should play

pulsar fable
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To complete the “Denizens of the Deep” prophecy, do I need to find Poseidon in the same run I caught the rare fish?