#h1-discussion
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You'll get better, and Zagreus will get stronger with mirror upgrades and stuff. 
Yeah I like roguelites, at least really great ones, I just got done with Hollow Knight, I did 100% but the few bosses that were left were not worth the frustration so I deleted the game
I just saw the animated trailer for Hades
How weird would it be if Netflix did a Hades anime?
Lol
Yeah hollow knight is fun. But I think I like the single run, different build vibe of hades more. Also the dialogue and characters are all great
I love how it's easy to beat the boss on the first try, but then add another try and I struggle.
😂
yea lmao
uh how come i just had one of those green circle wave things in the asterius fight
i thought those are hads only
theseus and asterius
its a thing
its a way the devs shook up the fight a bit
asterius runs into his shield and then it goes boom
oh that would explain it
Does anybody know the chance to get the solo asterius fight before the duo fight? I'm trying to get the aspect of gilgamesh.
I don't know much for room rates, but you might pick more up-leveled rooms? The ones pictured with a skull and a chevron or two
Yeah definitely Hollow Knight is quite beautiful but it's also aggravating major flaw for me is that the fast travel doesn't work from the beginning which it should
Question: Is there full body artwork of Sisyphus? I'd like to start working on a cosplay! :)
Thanks! Now to get a giant beach ball for Bouldy!
at what point does hades grant permission to use mort against him?
Dang Sisyphus is jacked. Pushing a boulder up a hill must be a great workout
You need 4 hearts with him and 7 with two other characters (out of Meg, Than, Dusa, Achilles, Skelly and Sisyphus)
It's in the Companions wiki entry.
I love how the 3D models up close are just close enough to the character portraits to be recognizable but at the same time look kind of.. off. Like some sort of Hades knockoff. It's excellent modelling work, don't get me wrong, but quite obvious that it was done by a different artist once you see up close.
No problem.
(Also when you unlock it I'd recommend using Batty, Meg's companion, for the Hades fight, trying to use Mort can lead to him going impervious before damage is done in some cases)
Ok, I’m playing with a controller and when I press A on something it looks like it pins it, what does that really mean?
you mean on your boons? its mostly just for showing off for screenshots, it doesnt serve any gameplay purpose
why are there some olympian gods that I cannot gift even though in the codex theres no lock in the way
oh you know what i think its cause literally the second i asked zeus got unlocked nvm
unfortunate autocorrect im assuming 😅
Not a fan of the spear
Thanks for helping me see that! Lol
Who are the parents of Aphrodite, according to the game's lore? The wiki page lists all the other Olympians as her relatives-in-law, and it didn't mention her as an Olympian relative earlier, but I want to hear a more or less official opinion on that matter.
quick question, if i hit an enemy and it has damage control, does it still count as undamaged until i tap into its health?
or does fiery presense just get completed negated by damage control
Yes, you only receive a damage bonus on that enemy when it's shield are down and you damage their hp
Not the shields
its never stated. her relationship with the rest of the olympians remains deliberately ambiguous, and the others always refer to her with more respect than the rest of the family, they dont speak to her with familial terms
Hm
Would it be safe to assume that her relationship with the Olympians is based on the mythology then?
A weird question but still
i think they would prefer to leave it up to the interpretation of the player, judging by how they chose to address her
Yeah, I thinks that's a good point
some time ago i did put together how the gods speak about her and how she speaks of them, compared to the olympians speaking to one another if you want to see that all in one place https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rJOOmbCvlm2xd58rjdm1PHmEhsuDr_-NF53_Orxw6XI/edit?usp=sharing
I'll read it, thanks!
its just a collection of dialogue but i think the differences are pretty noticeable
Damn.... aphrodite is MEAN to artemis
Really disrespectful
Like, the chat with Athena suggests a constant back and forth of barbs, but with artemis... that's just bullying
this is the second time that I've lost a death defiance and gone "urgh, damn it" IRL right as Zagreus goes "urgh, damn it" in game lmao
we r in sync
Woah.. you're gamer
how come hades is shielding outside of his like 3 phases? usually he only gets his shield 4 times during the fight at set health levels
Are there brimstones? If he summons brimstones they'll shield him
Question since I’m still new to this genre. Are you expected to beat the whole escape in a single go without dying where if you die you start frim Tartarus all over, or are there safe points later on?
all in one go for a complete run
To see the ending basically?
Because I beat the first boss and still got sent back to the house.
from the start of the run to the end of the run, yeah. which may sound daunting but once you get the hang of how the game works, getting through tartarus can take like ~8 minutes (avg), a full run averages about 35 min or so
So tartarus is pretty darn long huh.
not really, no
How many levels are there?
average play speed is less than ten minutes, a speedrunner can get through it in just a few minutes. there's 4 biomes
It took as you say about 8 minutes to beat tartarus.
the second biome can be either fast or slow depending on the kind of room setup you get, i find getting a lot of the larger rooms slows me down quite a bit because of how mobile many of the enemies are. third biome will take the longest to get through and often tends to be a progression block for many players. fourth biome is pretty small
Okay, pretty cool, good to know how the game works.
it may be a bit discouraging initially to die and have to start over, but unlike other games of the genre, you're not really punished for losing a run, due to how the narrative works. you have your meta resources that you keep after runs, and you come back and get more story (and in some cases gameplay content) to unlock between runs
even the characters treat your deaths as part of the nature of things happening around the world so while it may be disappointing to lose a run you were working a good build on, it never fully feels like a loss
help
ive been playing nonstop
and for some odd reason i havent gotten burnt out
Alright I've only been playing this game for a few hours but .... WTF is with this RNG
In level 2 I got 6 of these wizards with the glowing orbs so I'm screen it was just a hundred purple orbs 🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣 🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣🟣
This game is too hard even in god mode
My fingers need an ice bath
pain
regardless yeah that room is painful
whenever i have athena's dash tho it tends to be somewhat of a cakewalk
Athenas dash?
deflect
eh i dont like poseidon's boons other than the gem booster and random collectables
its the kb that kills me
i prefer ares's boons
What's kb
knockback im assuming
Somehow I got two duo boons in the same set
from Aphrodite/Zeus
and they’re both not the greatest
I got hunting blades and vicious cycle pog
I love hera
The might of the huntress
Just won me this run
Hera is like Beowulf with more control
hera is worse beowulf but you didn't hear that from me 🚶♂️
Hera with blade rift 😩
hera with slicing shot?
I personally got a liking for Chiron aspect. It's just so cool with Dio or Poseidon special
ehhhhh
Or Demeter's
lodging casts work way better in general
in specific Hunting Blades
I'm a simple man, I see a Demeter boon i enter that room
I’m a simple man, I never enter Athena rooms
I'm a simple man, I chose Poseidon in every Trial of the Gods when he's there
I hate her boons even if they’re good
hunting blades is not exactly the best build choice for hera, for that it's really better to use poseidon or achilles
hermes/athena are those rooms you enter for that one boon and nothing else
"hermes sucks"
Greater Recall (auto cast jewel return) or Bad News? (50% more cast damage to foes without jewels in em)
ah cause it require the alt mirror upgrade: || Stygian Soul Your Cast Ammo regenerates, but no longer drops. Each rank makes this 1 Sec. faster. ||
do the darkness from bosses (when replaying a "heat" you already beat them on with that weapon) scale with heat?
No
or is there no purpose in using the pact of punishment if you're not at a "new" difficulty?
so there's no purpose in farming darkness at a heat other than 0? (other than finding that some of the pact's clauses help you, like being too used to the Extreme measure versions)
Speedrunners apparently like to use em2, fo2, td1 to make the game faster
But yeah the game doesn't reward you for playing same heat you already beat with that weapon
I mean I guess you can just tailor the game to the level of challenge you want by repeating certain heats in differing combinations for fun
Nah, skip TD1 unless you're doing RTA.
Survival rooms (which I think only spawn in Tartarus, now that I'm thinking about it) pause the in-game timer.
Do I get higher rarity boons on higher heat? or is it placebo
Probably placebo.
heat has no effect on the stuff you get aside from approval process and bounties
By the time you hit heat/higher heat you have probably maxed out one side of the mirror upgrades (except the fated authority uses) so you will see better rarity booms more often from that.
Tl;dr mirror upgrades go brrrrrrrrrrt
Confirmation bias. Placebo effect means that your belief has an actual effect, but it doesn't in this case. 
ty nyaan
hello
do i need to complete guan yu aspect to start unlocking the 4th aspect on the other weapons?
is upgrading deadly strike/flourish worth it? the damage increase is just so low...
and no, you don't need to "complete" it, they'll start unlocking now
you mean artemis' boon?
but what I learned the hard way was that you do need to spend some titan blood in them first
yes
How do I get more infernal arms?
i unlocked arthur and guan yu so far
gotcha
will do
what do you mean by "get"?
beat the game, spend titans blood
keep doing runs
I have 3 that are unknown
also im missing one last keepsake
you'll unlock those
Ok
It's Nyaanyaa, though. Only Lady Aphrodite can call me Nyaan. 
👏 Nyaanyaa
I’m trying my 2nd attempt through the Elysium, this time with the bow
Nyaanyaa
The other 16 attempts with a sword didn’t work
Nyaa²
Do you have any clue what the last keepsake is?
story
ergh im just missing one
keep beating hades
You got the one from ||Mom||?
i heard hades doesnt give you any keepsakes though?
far from it
Ah I see, thats the one I'm missing










|| Persephone||
Nyaa² Mew²
bwahahha
I think so
cause you don't have the ()
Yo the yellow role looks cool ngl
Fluffy Bun how are the other games
If Hades was this good, I'm sure the other games have a lot to offer too
as a programmer, the ² applies to the full word
Bastion is a gem, can't decide which one I like more between Transistor or Pyre
Bastion, Transistor, and Pyre are all masterpieces in their own right.
Gotcha
wait
i just unlocked a companion
my first one
POGGGGGGGGGG
What's the first thing I should know about HADES 🤔 🤔
Hold forward.
How could anyone do anything with the bow and arrow? It’s terrible!
does Hunter's Mark really last for 6 seconds??
I swear, it's gone after, like, 2
oh wait... It's only for a single attack, isn't it...
it wears off upon landing a crit, yeah
Can I use nectar in the game?
During fight? Or after clearing a chamber?
Like using an item?
Or does it only work with the boon👀
you can only use it for gifting, or trading for other resources
Gotcha ok
blackmail shades with nectar so we can fight with them 

It was a shock. A pleasant one, but still a shock
quick, what's the max health threshold for the big boy title on the end screen
im having a brain fart on what page it is on on the wiki
aha, they're called "run clear messages"
400 max health is the line
unfortunately i got favored and envied instead
but i gotta say.... getting 2 heart erebus gates in tartarus? pretttyy good
What does hallowed ground do? It’s the effect that gets placed when you use Arthur’s special
It makes all Foes/projectiles inside it slower and gives you dmg reduction up to 40% iirc
Oh nice
Also it deactivates traps, that includes lava
Oh I never considered it could block lava....
Could just stand there, in the middle of the lava... for a good long while
Yeah, until it runs out
yo just finished hades, and just wanted to say my appreciation for the game
one of the best roguelikes i have played
i finally decided to lower my resolution and what i can say is finally... after 3 months of not caring about it... (almost) 60 fps
it still drops in elysium but the other displays are messed up so this is the best i've got
Yay. 
sub 12 hera is still gonna be pain
do bounties only go up to 20 heat?
Yes
😭
does anyone know if you can get singing and not just instrumental versions from the ||music stand?||
you can't
ok, thanks

Finished as in cleared once, cleared ten times, gotten the epilogue, done everything? :)
I don't know much about this game, but I do know lots about gameplay elements and game design. Excited to join a community of such a stellar game, and, let's see if I can break ice with this:
Your best preferred weapon, and why?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469943461370658838/830440412069625896/unknown.png is this only for the special? so special range special speed and special damage?
Ye
zag spear kinda sucks aside from being able to get flurry jab 
from my experience all of them are good really. each of the 6 weapons have varying distinct ways of playing them and even more ways to have fun and mess around with them once you unlock the weapon aspects
hoenstly,i like the spear.But i jsut wish it would be somehow easier to get off the two dash attacks in succession,and not accidentaly use attacks.Requires a lot of rpactice
You know, I think Doom as a whole is underwhelming
I think it could do with a buff, or an added mechanic
What if every time it was reapplied, it dealt more and more damage?
merciful end
Actually drive in the idea of eventual demise, which, is doom in definition
hold on lemme find it
this is a crazy doom build
every time i dash attack the doom deals 400+ damage
and i had 4 dashes
and also with pressure points the doom can crit and deal 1000 damage
That's what Dire Misfortune does.
Your Doom effects deal more damage when applied multiple times.
Hoh
The ONE Ares Boon I haven't found yet
Still haven't fulfilled the Ares Minor Prophecies yet
Anyway, Merciful End is about the most universally broken build you can get in the game.
Early on, I used to think Lord Ares needed buffs. I was very wrong. Just didn't know how to do Doom builds or Blade Rift builds properly.
Oh I like the Blade Rifts
Punishes the slow movers
Doom though, guess there's more around it that makes it different
Is this games best used for keybord, or controller?
Controller from what I've heard, better movement control
But there's the trade off of lack of accuracy with aim
I'm using keyboard, and I'm having a fine time
ok
ultimately kbm was better for me because i found myself aiming with stuff a lot which is much easier with cursor
Sure Footing:
resist damage from traps -
Does this mean i get less damage from lava in level 2 environment??
Boon from Athena
lava is considered a trap
yes
oh ok Divine Dash isnt available i think this is the next best thing
i havent beaten the snake yet
kind of hard honestly
oh
hades skulls??
ok
Sometimes it feels like heightened security should be worth at least 2 heat
For me at least
Maybe I just suck lmao
Heightened security is worse than like EM3 in my opinion
yea thats why no one runs HS at low heat, since its not worth it at all
1 heat for potentially being one shot
is never fun
Later on when you get used to it, it basically doesnt exist
When I first started to practice HS I just died to a Styx trap that 150 dmg lol
Cant get too confident with that thing turned on
Yep and hades vases do the same amount
What is a good way to farm nectar?
Normally I just buy some with keys
i keep trying to get some but i only get 1-2 per game
i didnt think of that
man
im stupid
It’s all good
Thanks tho
should i use my spear when i talk to achilles or no if i want to unlock the guan yu aspect?
bruh you talk to him in the house so it doesnt matter what you use
I was playing beowulf and I got lucky in tartarus and at the beginning of asphodel I was set up for heart rend, mirage shot, and fully loaded. Then at the end of elysium if got none of those boons. even though I got 2 artemis boons, 2 poseidon boons, and 1 aphro boon.
how do i spoiler hide something?
||
||test||
He got it
Was gonna say || on both ends
You can also on mobile select the word or text and mark it as spoiler is a option
Or on computer just click the button
thanks a lot!You guys know how in the house Hades just denies the requests of the shades all the time?
||Is it a intentional that after beating him for the 2nd time he started granting everything?Or is the resposne he gives random?||
Which is way easier
I what
Lol
I have never seen that and I have cleared like 20 or 30 times
I doubt its cause you cleared twice
Maybe some other condition
Im jsut thinking maybe doing it atleast once is enough?
but if u didnt see it then idk
I only have around 30 hours at most
i think it is just random
Continued watching for a while,after a hot streak of granting,he started finally denying.Felt weird to see him so agreeable lol
consider: adamant rail but dual wield
How come theseus gets to have 2 weapons at a time and zag can't
There is a mod that lets zagreus dual wield on nexus
I can already imagine the build potential. Heck, even just the right hammers on dual-wielded rails would be a sight to behold, imagine having Cluster Bomb and Rocket Bomb on it.
Would basically be rockets at every angle in the direction Zagreus is facing.
I REQUIRE MORE DAKKA
WAAAAAAAAGHHH!!!
Lol
WTF is an Encounter
I used my Special 10 times and I lost health each time
With Chaos
Chaos boons effect zag at all times
Its any room with a fight that counts
Encounters have enemies
3 rooms
Let me say it again but clearly
It can vary but for chaos encounter means any room with a fight
But it can mean any room
A chamber is a room
For example cyclops jerky only counts down when you complete a fight chamber
There is one specific chaos boon that counts chambers
But the bone angler or the chaos thing which forces a chaos gate spawns
Those can happen in non fight chambers
Whatever this doesn't make any sense
I forgot to catch a surface fish I am sobbing 
Wait ok what's the difference between the (gold coin with the exclamation point) and the exclamation point?
When you have to choose between rooms
The tiny skull in the corner you mean
No
OH
the rock with the exclamation point right?
Take it
Just do it if I told you I would spoil you
One exclamation point is gold the other is not
If you are in tartarus that is
What does it do why should I choose it
Just know its better than the obals(the coins)
Its a encounter like charons shop in that there is a npc
Just go through it
oooooooooooooooooh that's what they're talking about
How do I get the shop and npc to show up in level 2
I died to the snake when it was at 5 %
Because I couldn't level up and I had 400 coins
I think you always get 2 shops per floor
Or like, you have 2 shop doors
Charon usually shows up halfway through a stage and once more right before the boss
That I don’t think can happen
Never seen it or heard it mentioned
If it does its probably a bug
No I mean like
Actually there was a chamber right before the snake fight
It was empty
It's normally supposed to be filled with a fountain and shops
I can see the squares
right before the snake fight you get a choice of two rooms
Neither of them will have enemies
Unless you took the opposite one
Charon’s shop is signified by a coin bag with a skull on it
Usually the one at the end before a boss has his shop as a choice or the other one is usually a centaur heart, power pom, or boon
Ok I gotchu
Does this boon affect bosses?
hide breaker
From Artemis
Or are bosses always impenetrable when they have the glass looking shield
i think hide breaker is the extra crit damage on armor right??
yea thats their impervious phase, nothing can hit them during that
Oh ok, I'm up against Snake
Bone hydra eh
And I think it could have made all the difference
Yeah gotta kill the heads
Want a tip
There are four different flavors of bone hyrda.
Pink: fires slow moving pink waves which then speed up fast and hit like a truck.
Orange: fires pools of lava
Green: fires skelton eggs.
SHUSH I KNOW THAT NOW
spitter, spawner, slammer, wave boy, fire boy
spitter acts like dracons, wave boy act likes wave makers, fire boy leaves the fire spots everywhere, slammer slams everywhere and makes little shockwave things, abd spawner spawns bloodless
Blue: slammer, slams the ground and causes a lot of thing to fall from the roof and damage you
Ok nm
Oh wow I beat hydra without dying for the first time
🥳
Daedalus Hammer: what does cruel thrust mean,??????
how can i defeat theseus? everytime i get to him i manage to kill the minotaur but everytime that shielded piece of excrement kills me
The final attack on the swords combo
Its a thrust
Ahh ok
It affects that
Git gud but yeah theseus sucks. Definitely hardest boss in game
Get better boons and stuff
Have a better head for builds
theres a less blunt way to put things :/
take your time with him
after you beat asterius you dont need to rush
jajajaja tks you both
when he's about to throw his spear, dash to the side or go behind a pillar
he'll show his back for a bit and you can get some damage in
for his spin you need to dash 1-2 times to the side
when he summons the god at half, thats even more reason to be careful
That helps me.
if i take the boon that bounces the enemy's attacks also bounces the spear and hurts theseus?
but if you can try to burst him while he's in the summon animation do it
sorry, i know my english is pretty bad, i'm from colombia xd
yea you can deflect the spear
I dash sometimes horizontal or vertical but I didn’t know horizontal only works
tks papi
The thing i find with champions fight is that once you beat the bull you can slow down a lot
Is temple of styx the last chamber?
It's the last area yeah
Interesting, I mean the map makes it seem weirdly like a lot more content
I guess there are things to do after this temple?
?
Is crit from artemis good on lucifer's attack? have only gone the suggested zeus build
theoretically yea, i havent tried it, but if you can get the damage ramping hammer
I died in my first mini chamber ... In the temple
That's pretty hard with the poison rats
curious how often the crits can proc with the laser
Yeah learning to deal with styx enemies is rough at first
Crits proc often but damage is low until you get the hammer
which hammer you referring to?
Concentrated Beam: Your Igneus Eden Attack damage to a foe ramps up +100% faster.
that's the one I just grabbed :)
Neat
Ok when can I upgrade my weapons I have all 6 unlocked
i think you need to have done a run with each at least once and make it a certain distance
that distance im not too sure of
once you give around 6 nectars to the npcs, they'll have a locked heart. that heart can only be unlocked via dialogue and story beats with that npc. once its unlocked you give ambro
early game its useless
just trade it to blood with the broker
but once you get around mid to late at least save a few
Hmmm ok
Also I didn't realize my normal attack was OP
I just cheesed through hydra with it
What's with the special rat room???
It's a tiny rat but he is invulnerable to all my attacks
How do I kill him
What's his name
🐁
His health bar is ridiculous
It's preposterous
What do I do
Oh wow you got the boss rat early
It's a rare miniboss
Just... keep an eye on it, learn what it looks like when it's about to charge
Goddamn it second time in temple today
And I get rare boss
I don't think I'm gonna survive
My buffs are whack
Nevermind I honestly forgot I had a heal on hit 🎯🎯🎯 buff
I cheesed it with full health
Nice
there have been bug fixes and some balance changes, but if you're looking for big content updates, that's unlikely to happen. Hades is, as currently stands, a completed experience
oh 😦
Damn it all to hell
I fed Cebereus early
I could have leveled up
I'm not ready for the last boss
Idk who it is even
i mean, is true, hades is a complete game after all, but the game is so good and the story actually makes you believe there is going to be a part 2
or something like this
The devs have said they put everything they had into the 1.0 release, so any hints of continued content wasn't necessarily intentional
They may or may not add content. Historically it's unlikely; the only time they have done dlc was for Bastion, and that was a bit of a different situation because it was their first release and published by WB. They haven't said anything and from my observation generally tend to stay quiet about any plans unless they have something to present
cheers, you can follow their twitter for any potential news
or they'll announce here in #announcements if you remain in the server
i will follow that page most of the time xD
I’m fairly new to the discord (not hades though) and was wondering what the rank “hades monthly challenge” meant or was?
Every month, someone posts a challenge
They're pinned
Pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat
Green vases are traps
They deal damage to you if they break next to you
Nintendo
(the software was closed because an error occured)
The game shut down as I cheesed through the second boss fight
I was gonna beat the game finally first time
ty
I play on computer
There's more options for save recovery if you can mess with the files
FINALLY did sub 12 hera
maybe i've got gud enough at using it to be able to clear 32 heat now
Niice
Happy for ya
One day I'll give up on lucifer and run only hera
But right now I'm only at 6 heat
I dunno I just don't like cast weapons very much
Feels like I'm really limited in what casts are good
Hera likes poseidon, aphro, dio and Artemis cast
Other weapons like Achilles and poseidon sword can play with pretty much any cast
posiedon sword likes lodging casts more :3
since you can force dislodge, so just take exit wounds and you get nice damage
I absolutely hate shielded witches on BP2. Most annoying enemy in the game.
"Someone." 
Aaa sorryyyy

aphrodite will still love you
better be someone than somebody
can anyone help me figure out what i'm doing wrong?
Trying to unlock aspect of lucifer. Have cleared the game several times. have guang yu available, spent blood on exagryph (maxed aspect of zag and lvl 3 aspect of eris), but zeus won't give me the waking words
the dialogue likely just hasn't cycled through
number of game clears don't matter. so long as you've met the requirements to see a certain dialogue, it'll come up eventually. the game only checks that the requirements have been met and places that dialogue in your available pool that can come up when you speak with someone. so long as you're still getting new dialogue everything should be working as intended, you're just unfortunately having bad luck with it
so best bet is to equip the thunder signet and keep hitting zeus up until he does it then?
probably. if you don't care about clear streaks you can just continually suicide your runs after speaking with zeus
a bit of a hassle admittedly, but a symptom of how the dialogue system is structured
oof lol
hopefully it pops up for you sooner rather than later
just now?
maybe sometimes its true things happen the moment we get frustrated and vent about it 😄
oops
srsly
haha, thanks. it was just more grinding
now i need more blood cause i got frustrated it wasn't triggering and figured i needed to spend 5 on one aspect specifically
aspect doesnt matter, no, just the hard blood requirement
though i get how it feels you may be doing something wrong when it doesnt seem to want to come up
good to know going forward
usually bad rng with dialogue more than anything else! but feel free to pop by anytime if something seems stuck 
Just finished a sweet run with achilles spear and ice wine. Dash + 4x cast was dealing over 3000 damage with no crits. More if I got a lucky crit obviously.
Its a pretty fun build. Sucks to have to deal with dionysis cast without ice wine though
Is hades hard or am i just bad at video games?
It's a game where you progress by dying... if you didn't die often then that would be bad design
is it possible to play tabletop with anyone?
i died 50 times and still havent finished a run
is it possible to play tabletop with anyone?
no, it's just decoration
i died 50 times and still havent finished a run
heya, if the game is giving you trouble, you might try turning on god mode in the pause menu to give you more damage reduction. it starts you at +20% reduction and increases 2% each time you die, until capping out at 80%
Is anything in particular causing you problems?
When creating a build do you just go with what looks nice or create something that complements your weapon?
If you got the rail id recommend you try it with everything zeus on the build, with rockets, it has really helped me run through enemies
also try getting some chaos boons that increase special
I got to meet my mom
And then I thought cool I can continue to play the game easy peasy
Nope
There's a challenge list now mandatory Debuffs
Suddenly don't feel like playing anymore
I'm sure I'm missing out on a bunch of secret items, biomes or game modes now?
65hrs on record
It's not mandatory debuffs, its just for people who'd like the game more challenging and push heat, you can play without it but you'll miss some bounties
Some heat options are quite easy and some just take a bit of getting used to, some are terrible ofc but you wont take those until much later like 40+/50+
How do you avoid Debuffs list altogether???
Just start with 0 Heat
Ooooooo I thought this game was forcing me at first....

You use the debuffs in order to get more boss loot
i wish i could play this game with all the hype 😦
Late night epiphany.... the spear is the best weapon in the game
How? Every boss uses a version of the spear
Whip is bendy spear
Hydra teeth is mouth spear
Whips aren't sharp
And the other two speak for themselves
You’re right. Honestly Achilles spear is the best weapon, probably only matched by Rama/eris
And I don't think the hydra bites people
It jumps at you and bites you
I like to think of it as more of a slam attack
When it backs up and swoops in
If whips aren't sharp then how come they hurt so much
The end usually are, but long somewhat thin wires can easily hurt even at low speeds
Only the end is sharp? So like a spear
We should have a spear cult here, why are the only cult here is bow? I call for equality 
Hey guys, had my first succesfull run 🙂
#h1-victory-boasting is the channel for it, but congrats eitherway
Dude what
Not stealing from Charon ever again
Dude hits like an anime isekai truck on steroids and speed
that's a phrase I haven't seen before
How else would I describe being impaled by an oar of the stygian boat man, and then having it swung across my face like rotating door
His attacks are tricky as well, more treacherous than the laser beams than focus in on you
He has strong arms. If you can time your dodges he becomes very easy
man's hiding some buff meat under those robes
Expected nothing less from the man who rows the boat of the dead and damned for all eternity
Also, my first hidden aspect, Guan Yu
Never thought I'd hear the name again
He's one of those highly worshipped and respected generals, for exactly the description of the spear
Fought to free the people, that's why the worship him
On that same note, how odd
With Zeus' Thunder Flourish, and the Blitz Disc from the Aspect of Zeus, bolts strike me only when the disc returns
Not that it's dealing any damage, it only happens when its flying back at me
the bolts come when the blitz disc hitss oemthing
and it only happens sometimes when it comes back
must due to how the hitboxes for catching and the timing of the special hits interact. though I'm not sure why it thinks zag is hittable
What do I do after I beat HADES
can someone give me some suggestion, right now im playing the poseidon sword and got daedalus double nova upgrade, any special and cast that i could get?
In a fight??
A lot of casts work well with Poseidon aspect, some of the popular ones are Athena, Aphrodite & Poseidon, the aspect can make any cast usable tho. For special you could use it as an activator for duo boons, for example if you're using Poseidon Cast you can get Artemis Special and aim for Mirage shot, or Aphro Cast + Athena Special for Parting shot, it depends on what you have in mind, you dont have to use the special as a duo activator, you can use the attack instead for example and use the special for a certain debuff like Doom... Or just leave it empty :D
Unlodgable casts are less common with Poseidon aspect however, such as Dionysis, Ares and Demeter Cast, they are often used with Achilles Spear for a bigger buff since you dont care about the Dislodging gimmick that Poseidon Aspect offers, still doesnt mean they're bad or a run killer by any means.
so you beat hades in a fight for the first time?
Yeah last night
Beat him again but this time with heat 
Idk what heat is
theres charon secret boss
But I need a reason to keep playing or delete
but you gotta level up ur relationship with him first i think
There's story content you're yet to see, plus escaping with the other weapons is a fun challenge
Having a colorful lounge is pleasant IMO
Does something happen after I (❤️) everyone to max??
I am not a fan of animal crossing
Well, try to do another run and you'll find out
Heat is to make your game more challenging
yup, and technically persephone isnt back yet so the goal of the game (at least i think it is) isnt completed yet
Does heat refer to the Debuffs list???
Also, roguelites/likes in general are not meant to feel completed after the first clear. Alternate paths open, more story, weapons, and so on
Lol is she supposed to kill herself to be with us in the underworld?
That's dark.
well you gotta play to find out lol
Yep my favorite so far has been Enter the gungeon
I don't normally like rpg elements but honestly this was a smooth experience
I really enjoyed dialogue in this game
There's still plenty of dialog, but you gotta unlock it by doing things like more clears, advancing in relationships, fulfilling prophecies, ...
Sounds like a lot of work for some conversation
I'm introvert af, this doesn't appeal to my nature
Dialogue is the reward for finishing/failing at a run. Gameplay it's what Hades does best for me. Just punching things and breaking pillars
What about the 2 locked doors in the hall
When can I open them
Part of story or is it a game mode?
Story content 😉
You gotta progress further in the game, get more clears, dialogue etc..
Getting your first clear is essentially finishing the tutorial lol
When can I give ambrosia to people do I have to max out their heart first?
yes
Oh damn that's so true with roguelites
It's awful
I beat ETG 99%
Only missing 6 items from rat chest
on the other hand usually in roguelites once you get your first, the rest come quickly
Yeah, until you hit a locked heart. Then you gotta complete a requirement for them and once you've done that you can give them ambrosia
So basically there's no new biomes I take it
Nope, unless you count Erebus
You buy the Erebus gates from the contractor and you need a certain amount of heat to enter
Pact of punishment
Oh ok Debuffs list
Yes
Why don't yall say Pop
Because the debuffs that you take give you heat points, when you finish a run, you're finishing at X Heat, so its more popular to say that
death defiance?
which one?
If you're at Hades then its boiling blood, you take double dmg from him
if the skulls are at the top left of your health then they are extra lives
??
ok then they are extra lives
i told you to talk in #h1-for-new-players
spoilers are allowed in here
and i dont wanna confuse you
It's ok I have a better understanding of the game I think Ive seen 90% of the game already I guess
so you dont care about spoilers?
lol
No, how else are people supposed to manage their time
If you mean in your own playthrough and not from online spoilers and you've only escaped the underworld once.. not even close. I'd say it's more like 10-20%.
yeah
10-20% what???
Yea
its a long game
10 to 20 percent of what the game has to offer.
Of what
1 clear is not 90% of the game's content
of the story
You're barely scratching the surface here
technically
Oh ok no enemies there though
Erebus I have to find
and a spoiler
😼
Skelly is everywhere
bouldy grows legs and takes over chaos
bouldy with legs sounds cursed
How do I earn that skelly achievement? the one of skelly's prizes
I mean I searched for it and in the wiki it says
Once the Pact of Punishment is unlocked, set the Heat level to 8 at minimum and complete a run.
beat 8 heat
interact with the things
@rose ibex in the courtyard, look around in the southern corner. 

🦿
oh no
God the details
I love the details
Primordial chaos joked about how if you brought the Chaos Egg to the final fight and actually win
Well it wouldn't do anything, but Chaos would find it funny
At the very second Hades sunk into the River Styx, you can actually hear the laughter
Woahh mad
Maybe you can drop an image link?
uhhhhh
welp idk how do you do that, but
in "Free violence" i don't find the last guy to punch and i have all the bestiary
and i can't find it in the wiki
any idea of which guy i have to punch?
can you DM me the image?
this game is way too easy
@brisk trail Beauty is that you can progressively make it harder and harder in various interesting ways
well now you have ways to make it harder
Wtf
How do I get fishing to work? Only found one spot in the lava biome
Do I only get one chance per run?
Just reached the final boss with a terrible build and theres a fishing spot, wish me luck
You can get multiple, its all random, just the higher up you go the better the fish/rewards
Chaos too
listen for a little ding while you're playing it should indicate a fishing spot
Ok
Yeah sometimes it's really subtle
Especially in shops, easy to miss a fish there
I wish the ding was louder
Aegis, Aspect of Zeus might be my new main weapon
Being able to throw out a blender that covers a solid area
With sizable control over its trajectory
(Not to mention some exploitable cheese)
And the fact Aegis is Aegis, the ability to flat out deny damage in almost all instances
Don't have to wait for throw to come back in order to block , thats the main plus for me
Oh and that
Didn't expect it, but was certainly surprised to see that
Pair it with Dionysus' Cast and you have yourself some stupid damage potential
Oop
Too bad I wasted my last 5 titan's blood because Skelly pulled a fast one on me
Guess I'll be grinding heat on Stygius until I get 5 back
Has anyone had their cast boon stop working in the battle with Hades? Was doing a cast build with Achilles Spear... I had Crystal Beam, Glacial Glare, and Crystal Clarity :C
Sounds like a bug, did you save the Boon set you were working with?
no, not sure how I'd do that after dying :/
The Sentry Cast set I see, don't see how it'd bug
Oh well that's simple
Did you unlock the Admin room yet?
ah yes
In there, try finding that session, then screenshot that
Then ask around somewhere, I just got here myself so maybe try #h1-tech-support ?
yeah I will, I forgot the runs are saved in the admin room
Alright best of luck then
thanks for the help
You can report it by pressing
, it’s more organized for them iirc
Don't see how the casts would break, those sentry crystals just drop to the ground
So you couldn't have had encountered any jank with Achilles' rush
yeah... but suddenly I was just shooting regular casts
completely threw me off
I've had some weird effects with crystal cast as well
I've only used it two runs, nothing for me to report on my end
Nothing like that but... sometimes the beam goes invisible when the crystal is offscreen when I'm using lucifer
And sometimes the beam is just a black line
I sent in a bug report for it
just filed the bug report, hope it helps
Hades is cool
No he's mean
Is there a trick to make Dusa’s bond pop? I’m 150+ hours in and she’s got full hearts.
you gotta make sure you have some of the lounge orders done
outside of that its all luck
is there a way to refund titan blood that youve put into weapons
nope
This would be a very very very nice feature
All the blood i put into zag spear :'(
@grand crystal thanks
bruh used my one companion usage during the hades fight and megara like missed hades by a mile ;-; b ruh
Do you know if the supergiant team has considered making an “art of hades” book?
it can be a rough fight
i honestly think hes the hardest fight in the game
I’ve only done it once
same
I like to take it whenever I get the option to add some challenge - and use some death defies
I feel like the first time you fight him it’s easier than the rest
Maybe less health or something
What is considered a good clear time?
Like 16 min?
i believe it comes exclusively with the physical switch release
probably anywhere around sub 20
Guys w t f
How do I get a companion this is literally all I've tried to do a day today
It's evening now
I tried to get Antos from warrior guy
He won't take any more gifts??? Why
This is my first time getting a companion
Someone help me understand please
achilles has a whole storyline you have to get through until you can get antos
it's just a little book of character portraits, its not a real artbook
I gave him like 6 potions
He won't take anymore
I have the ambrosia too
He won't take that either
Yeah, you have to do a favor for him
Which means a lot of dialogue
Give a lot of nectar to the stranger in elysium and then talk to both of them a lot
Yep, they're connected
I thought I could cheese through this game with the companions
This just got a lot harder
I dont know which companion is the easiest, but I'm gonna guess not antos
companions won't really cheese the game either, they have limited uses per run
They're definitely great to have
Better than having 20 amb lying around
I like the mental image of pouring an entire bottle of juice onto a stuffed animal to make it stronger
it's either that or drinking the ambrosia while talking to the stuffed animal
Zag: "I just don't get it you know, she says she likes me, but then she just tries to kill me every other time I see her"
Companion Battie: "...."
Zag: "Of course you think that"
Hehehe
?
Once per room, x times per run
Where x is the level of the companion
And you level up the companion by pouring ambrosia on it
Max level is 5
W t f I can only use 5* per run
That doesn't seem right
Whatever I guess it's enough to help with each weapon
To beat HADES
Boon of athena Last Stand
Does this give me 1 death defiance?
Or does it increase the health of a death defiance?
🥲🥲
It gives you one if you've spent one
And it increases the health of all of your dds
deathless stand/last stand both restore your dds only if you've already spent them
I love ||mort||
If u want to increase ur dd limit either use sd or get chaos legend boon
Or lucky tooth
Yeah lucky tooth is op
LT is cool but if you're having trouble with bosses, acorn is better than it looks
If LT scaled with max health then it would be better
For the specific case where you have 400 health going into styx
If u like acorn, might as well get athena legend boon
I keep missing that one fsr
It was my favorite boon in transistor and I'm sure it's good in hades
Ok absolutely cheesed my way to Elesyum
With primary weapon
Found the hobo lover on the floor
I can't give him the nectar or ambrosia
W t f is going on?
I thought I guys said I could gift him... I already gifted Achilles until the lockheart
So both guys don't accept it
I just wanted ant to be my companion now I feel weird for forcing a gay relationship
W t f why... I already interacted plenty
This game is good but if it can't help me complete things quickly I can't keep playing
Then I don’t know what to say, you can finish the game relatively quickly but if you want story stuff and more companions you need more time to spend on it
Thats a lot of grinding for story chokepoints
I just wanted ant he looks like the strongest of the bunch
I wanted to win once with every weapon but now idk
Also my thumbs hurt to high heaven
hades is a narrative driven rouge-lite, it takes time and for me at least that was part of the beauty
just gotta deal with the rsi
The nintendo switch is unkind to fingers
Yeah I understand that, honestly I just gave up on winning with every weapon, I’ve done it with every weapon except bow but still I stay for story
And Thanatos
Definitely take a break if it's painful for your hands
Nah it's ok, in gonna delete besides I hit 70+hrs in 4 days
That seems, drastic
I really enjoyed the art, super tight, hope we get super giant to make more comic book looking stuff
it's such a beautiful game
Wdym comic book looking
The style is similar to that of a comic, I’d assume
This game looks pretty like a comic/graphic novel