#h1-discussion

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signal aspen
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aphro attack

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dio special

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and try to get curse of vengeance from ares

sand nest
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ok i'll give it a shot

signal aspen
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then aim to get duo boons

swift plover
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zag aspect, artemis crit, and then the hammer that makes you attack rapidly

sand nest
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i was struggling with bow for a long time

signal aspen
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^^^

swift plover
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just trying to open his world to zag bow 🙂

signal aspen
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also no rapid shot

sand nest
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it's because i don't have levels in zag bow

brisk trail
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rama straight up better at spreading hangover imo but chiron is ok I guess

signal aspen
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i like the big boy shots

swift plover
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big boy shots are for sure the most efficient, unless you screw up

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rapid shot allows a lot of room for error

sand nest
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im a button mash kind of player hence my best runs are with fist and gun

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lol

swift plover
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if you're a button masher, zag bow with rapid shot and artemis attack

sand nest
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can't guarantee rapid shot though

swift plover
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right

brisk trail
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just learn to do dash strikes

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and getting powershots

sand nest
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i'll try chiron again...

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i've been trying out cast builds recently. getting those big duos or legendaries are big game

brisk trail
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casts are fun yeah and cheat everything

sand nest
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i think i did some runs where i wasn't even using the main weapon aspect. and just went lightning rod and running away

swift plover
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I haven't played a single cast build yet, I'm 110 runs in and still a total noob on those.

signal aspen
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cast builds are awesome

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but they can be extremely hard to get

swift plover
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I just haven't put my stygian blood into the ideal aspects for them yet

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as soon as I have hera or poseidon etc, I'll be sure to try them out

sand nest
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it doesn't matter

swift plover
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Don't need those aspects?

sand nest
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depends on the cast build you're aiming for

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but many cast builds are strong on their own

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also depending on your heat ofc

brisk trail
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also keep in mind that hera changes ur cast to a flare so thats a whole different thing

sand nest
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i've only done low heat

swift plover
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i'm at about 10-12 heat on most weaps

brisk trail
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its not compatible with all duos as a flare

half zephyr
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I had a pretty quick Rama run just now

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I didn’t really use my attack at all XD

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Just special all the time with a random cast & call now & then

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I kept forgetting about my attack

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I had Zeus special with jolted, bigger spread, bounce & the Zeus legendary hehe
And then I got the hammer that gave +4 special

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Still wasn’t a good run cuz I had 28 hp when I was done w hades, but I hit the final fish catch for my complete fishdex, so yay, and for the first time Rama didn’t feel slow

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Maybe I should just start ignoring the whole bow attack thing NeekoEhehe

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Maybe that’ll make me like the bow at last

strong isle
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tbh i like the bow because i just like ranged attacks in games
but for me nothing beats the shield because it just bullies enemies, especially with the two-attack hammer upgrade

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"attacks twice but no longer knocks foes away"
i see no downside, because i use the shield for melee 95% of the time and the knockback is therefore kind of annoying

heavy hound
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With low tolerance

brisk trail
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with spreading I meant I prefer rama's aoe

heavy hound
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Yeah

brisk trail
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I know that chiron stacks it faster

heavy hound
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Rama is better for spreading

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But again since chiron applies it much quicker, you can move from enemy to enemy really quickly

brisk trail
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maybe idk

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I dont need max stacks on most enemies so rama felt more chill

heavy hound
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Yeah I only have dio special on rama to strip DC hearts quickly

high island
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Chiron cares a lot more for Low Tolerance than Rama does.

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Since Chiron can cap stacks with one Volley, but Rama just spreads it thinly, pretty much.

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But Rama has better DPS anyway.

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So it's kinda moot lol.

rapid agate
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respecc guan yu

untold geyser
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respect or respec?

signal aspen
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both

untold geyser
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I wish I could remove TB from weapons

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Shield of Chaos too

rapid agate
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rama hits harder in a single hit

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chiron deals multiple hits thus applies more stacks

oblique sun
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Guan yu is good

signal aspen
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guan yu is fine

oblique sun
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Focus on special or get quick spin and spam spins

signal aspen
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now that i lost my streak i have been playing guan yu a lot more

sharp dust
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louis cypher is fire ngl

solid shell
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What's the best boon loadout i want to try to go for with aspect of arthur

signal aspen
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my favorite is artemis attack and aphro dash

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aim for heart rend

rapid agate
signal aspen
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but aphro attack with arthur is also really good

sharp dust
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whats a smt

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louis cypher is from an og movie my man

rapid agate
sharp dust
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hades wishes he was as cool as louis

primal creek
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I beat hades for the first time

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Without God mode

brisk trail
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You think there could be a way to play as a sister?

strong isle
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i required God Mode 72% before i actually beat it

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i'm both bad at games and scared of damage

signal aspen
brisk trail
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Like with mods

signal aspen
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if you have mods then yes

brisk dust
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if mods are there

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then u can do anything

signal aspen
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somebody is gonna make that mod

brisk dust
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eventually there will a mod of me in hades

signal aspen
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no probably not

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unless you make it

brisk dust
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ehhehehee

hollow hawk
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i mean, there can easily exist a mod to make zag a sister

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Like the character model would change

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But apart from that, it would be hard

cunning cradle
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is patroclus regen affected by lasting consequences?

hollow hawk
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Yes

cunning cradle
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dang

winter zinc
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if youre doing lasting consequences

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at a high level like LC4

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generally you just go stubborn defiance

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for healing

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and then if you find pat you take his kiss of styx which gives u 80% of ur health back per chamber

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whenever u die which u can just do each chamber

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unaffected by LC

cunning cradle
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understood

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thanks

hallow peak
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I have 17 titan blood and 8 diamonds

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I want to invest all the titanblood into excalibur sword but at the same time gaun yu is cool but not viable till I invest a good amount of blood into it

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And beowulf shield I like cause it makes specil viable so I also want to invest titan blood into that

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As for the diamonds I don’t know if I want to buy songs or furniture

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Please help me decide what I am to do with my immense wealth

half zephyr
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arthur is a safe, but slow option

brisk trail
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beo upgrade doesnt do anything to special right

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it upgrades ur attack

half zephyr
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idk, I've yet to invest into Beo - it's my last remaining HA, just need the blood to max it

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GY is a gamble - it works for some, but not for others

brisk trail
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my take is to do gy first because you can play around the other weapons without being maxed easier

half zephyr
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ye, arthur doesn't really need to be maxed

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but GY does

hallow peak
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Beowulf is a good shield

half zephyr
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the best shield aspect for special is zeus imo

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so many hits-

hallow peak
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I just don’t like the way it plays

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It feels wrong to me

half zephyr
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I love it

hallow peak
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Beowulf fixes it I feel

half zephyr
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I love the way I can manipulate the beyblade disk to follow behind me ir_evil_devil_laugh

hallow peak
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Lol

half zephyr
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it's a really easy shield to play

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beo will likely never work for me

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I just don't use bull rush

oblique sun
half zephyr
dusty helm
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finally escaped

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hellmode lul

oblique sun
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heck

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good job

sharp dust
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idk if i should have started in hell mode

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feel kinda bad i didnt

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but maybe it was the right choice

dusty helm
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the feeling when i escaped is 100x better

sharp dust
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i dont like how hell mode has an exclusive pact

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thats unfair

twin moat
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I mean, you can always start a new save

sharp dust
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but then i lose my progress

modern garnet
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But then you get the chance to date everyone all over again

silk radish
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Does deathless stand give you an extra DD if you're already at max?

half zephyr
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no

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neither of the athena dd boons do

sharp dust
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im still busy trying to get a date with megan

modern garnet
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Only chaos and skelly can get you a DD over max

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They must be equal in power

silk radish
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Ty @modern garnet @half zephyr

half zephyr
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no, cuz chaos can give more then 1 pr run

sharp dust
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never had chaos offer me a dd

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:<

half zephyr
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if I remember correctly

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its just possibly the rarest legendary cuz of how many boons chaos offers you

modern garnet
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I think I've gotten pretty lucky with it

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But the condition on it is extra tough

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One time I got 3 standard DDs + 2 Athena DDs + chaos DD + skelly DD

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And I needed most of em, what a garbage run

silk radish
unborn remnant
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Zagreus

grizzled maple
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why does bouldy not believe in me

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i need his help and approval

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oh wait

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NO I MESSED UP I DO BELIVE IN BOULDY PLEASE-

grizzled kernel
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I want to ask what dmg buff is multiply ?

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Does athena expose multiply with other bonus like styx keepsake and stuff

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I also have the keepsake of apphordite left without a face on it

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I have no idea how to unlock her face in the keepsake storage

brisk trail
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Almost all values for damage ups, like the +50% of Common Blinding Flash, is additive and calculated from the base damage.

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Look for the words "base damage", those will be multiplicative because all of the damage modifiers you have from boons and keepsakes will now be calculated off the new base stat.

modern garnet
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To get maximum hearts from aphro you need to complete 2/3 relationships

brisk trail
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So a maxed out ||Sigil|| and Common Exposed gives you +150% damage.

fervent steppe
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i love that this game isn't hard-locked to 60fps

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or else i would have never played it

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from my extremely short amount of time playing it before my display driver decided to die, i love it

brisk trail
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Good luck getting that driver fixed.

fervent steppe
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well i hope it was a one-time thing, or a vulkan bug

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because that'll get extremely annoying

hallow peak
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Im so bad about forgetting fishing spots

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That I just bought a skeltal lure

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And moved on forgetting about the guaranteed fishing spot

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Im about to beat myself

fervent steppe
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wait what i still have run progress?

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like i can alt+f4 and not lose everything?

hallow peak
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Yeah

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It saves after encounters

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But its not always reliable I think.

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Ive exited out thinking it will be ok only to get back on and zag is back at with the infernal arms and skelly and my run upto elysium never happened

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Very frustrating

fervent steppe
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man dash attacks are super satisfying with the hunter dash

runic estuary
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You try the dash attack with the triple hit spear dash attack? Melts enemies

fervent steppe
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i still only have a sword, but unlocked the bow and then realized i'd hate the bow

runic estuary
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I hated the bow at first but it grows on you

modern garnet
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Bow gets FUN

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Until you start getting FO heat...

runic estuary
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The secret unlock bow is VERY fun. Even on high heat.

modern garnet
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Yeah I love it

fervent steppe
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i love that you can spam special attacks

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also, is the shield good at hitting enemies into walls? or what? because i feel like i've just been pinning them to walls with it

hallow peak
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Huh

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Im doing a boonless run apparently if you get a pom of power and have no boons it will give you a bunch of obals intead

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Didn’t know that

modern garnet
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Haha, what are you gonna spend it on... a boon?

fervent steppe
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aegis + specials can hit up 4 enemies = trash room cleaning

modern garnet
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Wait do poms give you more money than it costs to buy a pom?

deft shell
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Yep. I guess the game feels sorry for you for not having any boons

hallow peak
modern garnet
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I wonder if you get more money from those higher level poms

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The ones in erebus and styx

hallow peak
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Ok so I didn’t think you could buy a pom and get money but you can

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That is ridiculous

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Doing a boonless run might be a bit op

carmine ravine
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If u using shackles yeah

hallow peak
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Having to only worry about hp boosts and getting obals

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I am

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I have both in abundance

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And with the vampire sword hammer ability

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I am invincible

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Excalibur is sorta carrying me too

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I beat elysium boss with full hp

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Lol

modern garnet
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how much money are ya sittin on

hallow peak
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I finished the run but I think it was... ahh around 3,000 obals

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Thats when I got up to temple of styx and before I bought stuff from the shop

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Well

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After buying the poms from the shop

modern garnet
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ohohh... imagine if you got hoarding slash

hallow peak
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Cause those gave me extra money

autumn mist
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Guys, what do I do for ||the last heart, the locked one, for friendship||

modern garnet
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with who

hallow peak
autumn mist
hidden pawn
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Has anyone modded in new boons?

hallow peak
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And i had the excalibur exclusive hammer ability which improves the aura

modern garnet
hallow peak
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I know

autumn mist
hallow peak
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That for another run maybe

modern garnet
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to get artemis it seems like you just gotta talk to her for a while

hallow peak
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I am good enough now where I can keep all my DD up to last boss so i can sacrifice the cursed slash healing

autumn mist
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Gay

rapid agate
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bow is the best

hallow peak
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What does celestial sharanga do

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It doesn’t say on the wiki

modern garnet
hallow peak
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What does last bow aspect do

rapid agate
rapid agate
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well

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not laser beam

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just

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huge laser bow shot

hallow peak
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Oh

modern garnet
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it's a wider shot that can hit multiple enemies yeah

rapid agate
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that hits like a semitruck

hallow peak
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Its a pew

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Not a BWEEEEAM

rapid agate
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aspect of arthur hits like a full on truck

hallow peak
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Laser not beam correct?

rapid agate
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laserbeam is aspect of lucifer

hallow peak
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Its very much a tank weapon

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Extra hp and defense with slow heavy hits

rapid agate
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no aspect of arthur is just

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fun

hallow peak
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It is

rapid agate
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it's not tanky it's not really safe at least imo

hallow peak
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Where did @worthy egret go

rapid agate
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i just love it because

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it hits like a TRUCK

hallow peak
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I talked to him once and he hasn’t been here since

modern garnet
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the pullback for hidden bow is much slower

rapid agate
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getting 200 damage without any buffs of any kind

modern garnet
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but it's WORTH it

rapid agate
modern garnet
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coward

rapid agate
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hermes helps a ton

modern garnet
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learn to love the slow

rapid agate
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i like doing perfect shots

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i like the slow

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but i love the damage

hallow peak
rapid agate
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less slow=more damage

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maths

hallow peak
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THAT WHO MAKES THE SWORD CHUNK CHUNK CHUNK ALL THE MORE BETTER

rapid agate
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yeah but

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artemis

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artemis on arthur

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more like

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800 damage

hallow peak
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Or with hermes and doom stacking

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More like take a quarter of the bosses health out lol

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In the thousands

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I have two questions

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Anyone know what giving nectar to bouldy is for since I can’t find bouldy in the codex

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And does anyone know how many gifts I need to give for the “the queen’s plan” prophecy to pass?

modern garnet
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giving nectar to bouldy will get you a bouldy boon

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that's the only way to get a boon from nectar

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queen's plan requires you to have all hearts with a bunch of olympians, AND your parents

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I think

hallow peak
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all hearts

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Oh boy

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Im gonna need a lot of nectar

narrow hemlock
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its minimum 6 olympians

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though getting ||demeter|| to heartlock will count toward the 6

hallow peak
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Ok

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Good thanks @narrow hemlock

autumn mist
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||is it impressive to beat the game on your 20th run?||

grand crystal
carmine ravine
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Thats nice to hear

simple moat
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i got my first at 18 runs and i think i kinda got lucky so 20 sounds really solid to me

grand crystal
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i cant really have solid ground in the conversation since ive been playing since early access so :3

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back when hydra was the "final boss" i did that by run 17

simple moat
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it's kinda weird how much harder the final boss is than any other boss fight

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i mean it's not, cause obviously the final boss should be hardest

grand crystal
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imo champions are more of a pain

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final at least has a much easier to get down pattern and less hectic

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champions just

simple moat
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but at the same time no matter my build or anything i never die before him

grand crystal
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;w;

simple moat
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for champions i just keep dashing away and poking at mino until he dies

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then kite theseus

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idk i feel like that fight is a lot easier since i use bow

grand crystal
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lol im a bow main

simple moat
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for me the only places i really lose lives in are styx and final boss

grand crystal
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ive gotten to a point where i dont lose much ._.

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ive played the game too much

simple moat
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the dream

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i only beat the game for the first time today lmao

grand crystal
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high heat makes me sad ;w;

simple moat
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and the second time too actually

grand crystal
grand crystal
simple moat
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one with bow one with shield

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but i havent gotten a win since

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😔

grand crystal
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oh damn thats a mood

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but yea thtas how it be

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i can give you a few fun builds for the other weapons if you want

autumn mist
burnt bluff
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I use gun with zeus boons

grand crystal
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yea rail with zeus is the best way to go

burnt bluff
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Combine with poseidon and artemis

autumn mist
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Theseus rly got me held up in the runs

grand crystal
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sword works with just about everything

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spear is more hammer dependent on where you go

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shield is shield

autumn mist
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Lol shield

grand crystal
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fists is more doom, zeus, dio, dem

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and bow is just damage

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and thats not even getting into aspects

burnt bluff
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Bow is the hardest

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Imo

grand crystal
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bow is so free for me

simple moat
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so far i've won with bow aphrodite/artemis/athena and shield demeter/dionysus/athena

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cast go brr

grand crystal
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just get twin/triple + perfect/point blank and take like aphro/arte on attack

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casts do go brrrr

modern garnet
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bow is... harder to get used to, at first? but once you learn it, oh boy

grand crystal
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yea it has a learning curve

modern garnet
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love bow

grand crystal
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timings, range, optimizing special

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aspects make it crazier

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like rama is just

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too good

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chiron is funny

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and hera is just casts

simple moat
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divine protection + ice wine + charged shot đŸ˜©

brazen lagoon
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rama slander just makes me sad

simple moat
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just run away and spam cast until win

burnt bluff
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Charon > Hades

modern garnet
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a big part of the game is like "don't stand still", but rama is like... "if you can stand still for 10 seconds i will give you everything you want"

simple moat
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i wanna unlock rama but i havent gotten the dialogue with achilles yet :(

grand crystal
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ahh he hasnt given gy lol

brisk trail
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ok I know this isn't that impressive but I just nohit meg for the first time, em4 btw

grand crystal
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yea its weirdly low on the priority for dialogue

grand crystal
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nohit bosses is great

burnt bluff
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Speed run is much more enjoyable

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Or combine the two

simple moat
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i need to start taking generic keepsakes so i can get poseidon to spawn smh

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he hasnt appeared in over six runs

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i just need one interaction so i can get his keepsake lol

brisk trail
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omg

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I beat a erebus gate in asphodel first try

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for a rare hermes boon

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pog

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I got purple greater evasion

simple moat
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pog

brisk trail
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this is my 3rd attempt at em4

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last 2 failed

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I got him down to 30% on his last bar then died

steep scarab
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Okay, I understand this is old news, and I’ve purposely not looked up anything about the game to avoid spoilers, but is there an epilogue to the epilogue? How long is this game’s story?😂 I’m not angry, I love this game and I’m so happy there’s more, but I didn’t expect it to be this long

craggy barn
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you mean when mommy comes back or the "feast" or whatever

steep scarab
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After the feast. When Persephone says that she is gonna have to leave and if things work out, you can find a way to spend time with her up there as well

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She said “I’ll probably be gone the next time you come back”

hushed pumice
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That's it then

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No more story outside of some dialogue

steep scarab
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Is there more story involving Demeter and more family drama and maybe talking Demeter into coming to an agreement or having Zagreus visit her in Olympus?

hushed pumice
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Assuming you completed all the character arcs

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No

steep scarab
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Awww, darn it

hushed pumice
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You never go to Olympus.

steep scarab
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I assumed you never got to play there, but I thought I’d get a slide show type thing like we got for the feast

hushed pumice
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All you get is the statue of Olympus in the bottom right corner of the garden

steep scarab
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So the conflict with Demeter isn’t resolved? I know how it’s resolved in the Greek myth, but I was wondering how Zagreus would fit into the agreement

hushed pumice
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Have you maxed everyone's hearts?

steep scarab
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Uhh, I’m one or two hearts away from a couple characters

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I don’t need to give anyone nectar anymore, it’s ambrosia only now

hushed pumice
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I think that's about all you have left then, besides maybe a few special events involving the house staff

brisk trail
steep scarab
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I still have Hypnos, Dusa, Aphrodite, Artemis, Hermes, Demeter, Sisophys, and Patrocoles left

Wait, I got all the hearts for Dusa? I’m looking at the keepsake section and I don’t have her symbol, but I got all the hearts for her?

hushed pumice
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Did you max the keepsake

brisk trail
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Have a few more convos with her

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You dont need maxed keepsake for bond

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You’ll get her bond after you interact a few more times

steep scarab
hushed pumice
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Eh keep talking then

steep scarab
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I thought you automatically got the face once you got all the hearts, there is still a bit of a conflict with her and Nyx, though

brisk trail
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Just keep talking to her and you’ll get it eventually

steep scarab
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Fair enough. What do I have to do for Hypnos?

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He still has the locked heart on his profile

hushed pumice
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There's some dialogue between him and Than that has to happen

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It's random

steep scarab
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I’ve gotten a conversation between those two maybe 2-3 times, so I’ll be on the look out for that. I was really confused because he was one of the first characters I started getting repeating dialogue for, and yet I couldn’t max him out

craggy barn
brisk trail
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Wdym

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I got artemis in tart

craggy barn
brisk trail
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And aph in asphodel

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I also got chaos +90 to dash strike

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And I have the double hit dash strike

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I might actually beat em4

steep scarab
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Thank you, guess I got too excited about more story

brisk trail
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a little heart appeared above meg

narrow hemlock
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lets not.. use such wording since this is a sfw server thonk

brisk trail
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I heard a whip sound, do u think zag...

narrow hemlock
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just having some exercise 😄

brisk trail
granite ether
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I thought they were playing board games thanthink

brisk trail
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I'm sure they were

craggy barn
winter zinc
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interestingly, i forged the dusa bond prior to the nyx dusa drama

split ermine
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so did i

modern garnet
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the nyx dusa discourse

split ermine
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i just got the nyx and dusa drama last night actually

sand nest
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urgh i hate bow

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can't believe i lost a 2H run

winter zinc
#

its ok! everyone has a weapon they suck with

#

for me its the fists

sand nest
#

lol totally opposite from me then

#

fists are what i'm really comfortable with

carmine ravine
#

2h? 2 hour?

sand nest
#

2 heat

#

was on hera artemis cast with heartrend and all that.. went on to lose 3 DD vs heroes and constantly walking into hades spear and died

carmine ravine
#

Just use rama

sand nest
#

wanted to try out hera... cause it's low heat but oh well..

#

wanted to clear with routine inspection for the prophecy

#

overestimated my ability

hollow hawk
#

RI is very bad lol

#

use it on an aspect youre comfy with

#

it might not seem so bad, but it is

brisk trail
#

oh yeah no don't use that until ur in very high heat

#

but for the prophecy

#

just use lvl 1

#

nothing more

hollow hawk
#

theyre doing that

#

since they said its 2 heat

brisk trail
#

gotcha

hollow hawk
#

also, if youre comfortable with hestia, it can usually handle RI pretty well

sand nest
#

yea i'm just completed a H8 fists run.. very close to getting the epilogue

#

close to a 100 runs now

#

also did em3 for the first time

brisk trail
#

nice

#

em4 time bingus_cool

sharp dust
#

ok i said fk it and suicided in tartarus multiple times to advance the story

#

now my stats probably look terrible tho :<

brisk trail
#

just progress normally

sand nest
#

took me 40+ runs to get my first win

#

so story wasn't delayed on that front lol

brisk trail
#

I've only thrown a few runs to get the last hammers I didn't have

sharp dust
#

i wanted to complete the orpheus and sisyphus stories

brisk trail
#

ah yeah

#

yeah like, most of the heart progression can just be done naturally, only a few you need to go out of your way for

#

like with hermes you need to have the plume equipped

#

and poseidon you need to catch a fish before talking to him

sharp dust
#

my nix was at 0 hearts before i sabotaged my win/loss ratio

#

i had to do it

brisk trail
#

but that's like the extent of the effort you will need for progression

brisk trail
#

Is there a point to keep giving nectar to specific gods?

hollow hawk
#

yes

#

bonds

#

and ||epilogue||

brisk trail
#

yes, tho I recommend at the start of the game u just keep nectar for cthonic gods

#

so u unlock summons

hollow hawk
#

just give nectar to everyone

brisk trail
#

what u mean cthonic gods?

hollow hawk
#

to hoard it

#

gods that are in your house

#

meg, dusa, than etc

brisk trail
#

^

#

ah

hollow hawk
#

cthonic gods meaning underworld gods

brisk trail
#

i been randomly giving them out

hollow hawk
#

yep

#

youre good

brisk trail
#

no idea what summons are lol

hollow hawk
#

you'll find out

#

dw

brisk trail
#

xD

#

you'll get there eventually :)

#

in the meantime dw too much heart progression just have fun

#

beat my first run through earlier today

#

did 24 minutes

#

got lucky and grabbed a Heroic curse of.. pain? (doom special)

sharp dust
#

give stuff to meg

brisk trail
#

and cranked it to level 8

sharp dust
#

other summons aint as good

#

so skip

brisk trail
#

well done!

#

each summon has it's use

sharp dust
#

anyway i need to play some shield before i can unlock beo

#

chaos or zoos?

hollow hawk
#

zeus

brisk trail
#

Any suggestions for the shield build that uses doom special for shield throw?

hollow hawk
#

chaos used to be good in early access but they nerfed it

sharp dust
#

oki

hollow hawk
#

get merciful end i guess @brisk trail

#

duo between athena and ares

brisk trail
#

merciful end doesn't really help proc it so fast since I can throw the shield fast anyways

#

shield throw isn't a deflect so it wont trigger the doom

hollow hawk
#

you can get divine dash

#

and proc it with your dash

brisk trail
#

ik but shield throw spreads it so fast its not really worth that IMO

#

thats how I did my 24 min run

hollow hawk
#

hm, idk then

brisk trail
#

what aspect would u suggest tho?

hollow hawk
#

curse of longing i guess? for chaos doom special

brisk trail
#

not really sure what aspect to use, and havnt unlocked the hidden aspect for shield

#

dno how to get those

hollow hawk
#

duo between ares and aphro

hollow hawk
#

try other weapons

#

go for the weapon that has dark thirst

#

so that you get to know all the weapons

#

and what works with them

brisk trail
#

Why do people choose dark forsight over the other?

half zephyr
#

Just a sec

#

We want more gold laurel rooms

#

That’s it really

#

I love getting more boons

brisk trail
#

what is a gold laurel?

#

ooohh

half zephyr
#

See image

brisk trail
#

okay

#

so basically when i get to the point i dont need things like nec, dark, gem, keys, then gold laurels are what i want

half zephyr
#

Mhmm

#

You still get those offered with dark foresight

#

Just not as often

worthy egret
#

Also, they/them

#

But its ok dw

split ermine
brisk trail
#

Yes.

split ermine
#

i do like the characters tho, but as of now, i dont think thats enough to keep me invested

brisk trail
#

It's SGG's best narrative by a wide margin, which is saying something considering how good Bastion and Transistor are (and Hades to a lesser extent).

split ermine
#

yea definitely with the amount of dialogue i see. maybe ill crank the game to easy and just finish a single playthru

brisk trail
#

The game is built so that you can see it through to the end even if you lose every single Rite.

split ermine
#

oh seriously? winning rites isnt required?

brisk trail
#

It was in some ways the prototype to Hades' progression even if you die in early Chambers over and over.

split ermine
#

i knew losing would still advance the story, but i didnt know you can beat the game even from losing

brisk trail
#

You're encouraged to win Rites, sure, but I know at least one person here who has thrown every single Rite just to see what happens.

#

But we're starting to get just a little off-topic.

daring badger
twin moat
#

Same...

untold geyser
#

for Hestia builds, what Mirror talents need to be chosen?

#

Fiery Presence better than Shadow?

brisk trail
#

hello

rustic oasis
#

happy april fools (considering you are in april)

burnt bluff
#

pet doggo

#

must pet doggo

#

or else doggo sad

gray apex
dark ore
hollow hawk
#

@untold geyser fiery, yeah. god's pride as well

#

since you dont really need any duos

gray apex
#

Hestia

hollow hawk
#

hestia* yeah

#

my bad

#

but the point still stands

#

fiery helps you one shot everything, whereas without it you'll barely one shot anything out of tartarus

#

even with a decent build

vapid narwhal
hollow hawk
#

i do too on hestia, but its not necessary

#

which is why you run pride for hermes and arty t2s and your dash and special boons

vapid narwhal
#

get aphro on special and if you get rocket it's mega good

hollow hawk
#

hazard is also great on hestia

split ermine
hollow hawk
#

ricochet and piercing are good attack hammers for hestia too

vapid narwhal
#

yeah

manic moat
#

hazard on hestia with aphro special and I was doing more damage with the special than the attack

split ermine
#

its so awesome that greg is on the development team so that he can work with the team to know what parts of the story has to change or adapt to the gameplay and level design

dark ore
#

thanks for listening! And yes, you can really feel it in Supergiant's games, and how they meld the narrative into the gameplay so fluidly

sand nest
#

i'm starting to go into 10 heat+, any good pact recommendations? i've been picking em3+MM cause i want to practice with their movesets

#

but i'm assuming there are easier combinations

gray apex
#

Tight deadline is easy, just takes some getting used to at first

#

But practicing EM3 and MM is a good idea, you’ll be running those basically every time in higher heats, would also recommend Forced overtime

sharp fossil
#

yeah TD1-2 and UC are both very manageable

#

if you’re interested in learning different enemy movesets chucking BP on isn’t a bad idea either

#

as Mike said practicing FO early is very valuable if you’re planning to do a lot of heat pushing, but bare in mind what your goals are

#

it can make the game a lot harder and you can definitely get to 32 without using it

#

past that, FO2 is almost mandatory

sand nest
#

urgh.. can't believe i screwed my 100th run...

#

stupid armoured mob on hades fight, practically killed me himself

thorny berry
brisk trail
#

zag is such a babe

untold geyser
#

when using Hestia gun, do most people attack with Artemis Dash?

#

I had better damage output with that than the normal attack

#

not sure if the crit bonuses for attack are lost when using the dash attack

brisk trail
#

crit bonuses are not lost on dash strike

untold geyser
#

I powered up both attack and dash strike with Chaos

#

managed to get 700+ damage per shot

brisk trail
#

very nice

slender umbra
#

Hi! Is there anywhere to log suggestions?
It would be great if the music for the game turned off when you switched out of it.
If I've paused the game to come back to when I've dealt with something I'd like it to go silent when it's not the active application.
Any ideas as to where I can send that one in to?

#

(Loving the game BTW)

mystic meteor
#

hello friends i need help! i just picked up a blessing from arthemis and after i picked it up i wanted to dash to the exist but then a big text field aperatd but i imidiatly skipped it since i wanted to dash away. does anybody know what that text field was i mean like is it something important it wasnt like when the charackters speak just big gray box of text i think

brisk trail
#

probably not important

mystic meteor
#

i got hte msg aggain. i cant sent pic but it basicly says that the game is unable to save. has anybody else had problem?

brisk trail
#

MFW i just unlocked infernal gates but im still at heat 1

#

not realising how they work

prisma wind
solid shell
#

Best boon setup i should be going for aspect of rama?

sharp dust
#

erebus g8s seem not very worth it

warped iron
#

*special or cast

hollow hawk
#

@prisma wind unrelated question, but what's up with all the mod names?

half zephyr
#

April 1st?

hollow hawk
#

Some sort of elaborate april fool's joke or just for fun?

#

yeah that's what I was wondering

half zephyr
#

I didn’t even notice they changed names

hollow hawk
#

Some mods haven't changed names, but most have

half zephyr
#

Tbf I only remember the name of like 1 mod

#

And that’s tatz?

sharp dust
#

i play on console

#

so no mods

half zephyr
#

Moderators

#

Not modifications

#

Discord mods

sharp dust
#

:>

half zephyr
#

Purple names

brazen lagoon
#

Everyone has funny names and then there's just madcar

half zephyr
#

I might also not notice cuz I’m in a server where everyone changes their names up to several times a day

brazen lagoon
#

The hermes herald is online

half zephyr
#

And pfp gets changed maybe once a week or so

sharp dust
#

madcar reminds me of myself at school

#

always the outlier

#

Sadge

#

i never change my username since my base name is perfect

solid shell
#

Question though

#

I'm about to grab lucifer for the first time I'd assume demeter or Dionysus attack from what I've seen

warped iron
#

not sure

#

I pretty much only use rama

#

speaking of PBs, mine is 7:47 with rama

#

😔

solid shell
#

Howe

warped iron
solid shell
#

I mean I only

#

My rama wasn't fully upgraded

warped iron
#

do that

#

it gets up to 60%

solid shell
#

That was the first run I ever did with rama

sharp dust
#

dont speedrunners take fo2

unborn remnant
#

only with fast weapons

#

i believe

solid shell
#

Ehat is fo2

sharp dust
#

the most fun pact

#

speedy enemies

brisk trail
#

Forced Overtime.

#

First level speeds enemies up 20%, second level bumps that to 40%.

sharp dust
#

i like everything that makes the game harder without simply increasing the enemies damage/survivality

solid shell
#

I'm gonna try forced overtime level 1

#

I havent done it before

sharp dust
#

so extreme measures, forced overtime, jury summons are all gr8

solid shell
#

Do extreme measures a lot i don't notice much of a difference

sharp dust
#

it makes enemies spawn faster too iirc

#

forced overtime that is

#

em1-2 are barely noticeable

warped iron
# sharp dust dont speedrunners take fo2

I haven't been taking it with rama. Enemies attack faster, therefore you get less time to charge your attacks. If you get hit while charging, you lose a couple seconds because it resets your attack charge.

sand nest
#

urghh... so pissed

#

died on bow again

alpine stratus
#

@sleek galleon hello from another channel!

sleek galleon
#

Hello hello

#

This is spectacular

#

I can't even describe how amazing that is

alpine stratus
#

anyways back in the day each feedback got marked.... ✅ đŸš« đŸ‘ïž 📝 forever in my heart

alpine stratus
#

hahhaaa i did that

hexed smelt
#

i mean um [loud, overdramatic coughing] gguuhhhhhhhh....

prisma wind
#

...

sleek galleon
alpine stratus
#

celebshop b.......bouldy........

half zephyr
hollow hawk
#

i swear everytime i look at the mod's list in this server i find new mods

half zephyr
#

All the good things for the boatsman

hollow hawk
#

like do half of yall just never come online or something

half zephyr
#

Or they just show as offline

alpine stratus
hollow hawk
#

ah

#

new mods

#

true

alpine stratus
#

we've grown a lot since the server started!

hollow hawk
#

most servers announce when theyre getting new mods, i guess this one reserves its announcement channel for more important things

winter zinc
#

what the heck is flame wheels release

#

ive literally never seen this item before

half zephyr
#

You can get it in elysium

#

Well of Charon

brisk trail
#

Disables Flamewheel spawns for the rest of the run.

#

Technically it's only 10 Chambers, but that's longer than Elysium will last.

hollow hawk
#

its a pretty rare item tbh

#

you can only get it in elysium

steady sierra
#

Finally got Orpheus to sing

#

pog

#

Darren Korb, please inject your singing voice into my veins đŸ˜©

oblique sun
#

that doesn't sound very healthy

narrow hemlock
#

veins, you say 👀

mystic meteor
#

hey guys! what does it mean to select ann ability you got from an god i mean like when you klick on it and then theres a little circle thing int the top ight corner

hardy arrow
#

It has no in game effect

mystic meteor
#

okay thank you friend! you are very helpfull

oblique sun
#

that way you can have multiple boons on screen at once

mystic meteor
#

sorry for all the question but boons are the things the gods give you right?

oblique sun
#

yes

dapper obsidian
#

The rolling stone magazine is so brilliant, thank you mods for this treat shadesmile

opaque radish
#

-nearly- defeated Hades on EM4

#

ughh It was down to like a few more hits

brisk trail
#

Again.

trail bane
#

Hello. I wonder when the game will be released on gog. We are really many to wait for it on our side and the radio silence of the studio does not reassure. Can we have some news? Thank 🙂

half zephyr
#

what is gog?

trail bane
half zephyr
narrow hemlock
#

#hades-faq

Will Hades ever come to other platforms?
We launched v1.0 of Hades only on Nintendo Switch, Steam, and the Epic Games Store. We'll be considering opportunities to bring the game to additional platforms down the line. Thank you for your interest.

trail bane
narrow hemlock
#

I'm having mobile issues, disregard 😔

signal aspen
#

and it will never be on steam

narrow hemlock
#

Until that happens there is at current no plans

trail bane
narrow hemlock
#

Best I can say is keep watch of the announcements or their Twitter, they will definitely say something about it if they have news.

simple moat
#

was trying my first heat run, made it all the way to styx with 3 extra lives and a solid build, lost two of them to random buzz saws since traps did 100 damage apiece fml

oblique sun
#

Heightened security bad

simple moat
#

died instantly to || the vases on phase two || did not realize they were traps .-.

oblique sun
#

yyep

#

those are traps

oblique sun
#

now you know not to pick HS

signal aspen
#

turn on tight deadline

#

36 min run

oblique sun
#

i'd recommend EM1 too

signal aspen
#

or extreme measures

#

yeah

tight rover
#

Hey guys, question about the game. I have it on steam but I'm thinking about buying it on switch to play on my couch with a controller. I play on KB+M on pc, but I wouldn't mind controller. Is it worth dropping $25 more to cross play the game on my couch ?

signal aspen
#

kinda depends on how much time you have to play hades every day

#

i you have a couple of hours each day to play hades then no

oblique sun
#

well the game is absolutely amazing, but it is worth noting that you can play with controller on pc

tight rover
#

also, how is the delay with the cross play file downloadss?

#

I play hades for like an hour or two a day

signal aspen
#

is that all the time you have

tight rover
#

yeah I use my garbo ps4 controller sometimes

#

im a student so prob not

oblique sun
#

connect pc to screen, play on couch

tight rover
#

pc in room couch in other room

#

not worth !

oblique sun
#

looong cable

#

or bring couch to room

tight rover
#

do you think they sell long long LONG hdmi cables that aren't $30+

#

couch to room is a vibe

oblique sun
#

sorry i'm just memeing at this point

#

i don't know how different switch is

tight rover
#

i know but your memes are giving me diff thoughts

#

realism thoughts............

oblique sun
#

neat

tight rover
#

idk switch version looks a lil blurry but that's it

oblique sun
#

probably just because big screen

tight rover
#

yea

#

compared to me playing on 1440p

sand nest
#

FO is no joke. lost 2 DDs fighting meg

#

zzz

oblique sun
#

it is hard but it can be fun getting used to, plus it's lots of heat

#

though if you don't feel ready that's alright

#

take it at your own pace

warped panther
#

I remember when fighting Meg was a struggle for me

#

now I do EM4 without too much trouble

oblique sun
#

i sometimes still struggle

#

EM4 is like

#

either i win against hades easily or i die in first phase

hallow peak
#

Im doing another boonless run

#

Which means I only am worrying about max hp and obals

#

I got the 3 obals and the discount card from charon and I am sitting on around 600 obals and I am one shotting half the enemies in asphodel.

#

Because of hoarding slash

#

This is ridiculous

#

And fun

simple moat
#

i hate getting zeus boons smh idk why but i dont like any of them

#

maybe it's just cause i use bow

#

i guess i need to get his talisman though

hallow peak
#

Zeus boons are better with like the spear, shield, and rail

#

Anything that ricochets

#

Zeus is all about chain damage

simple moat
#

i really want dionysus keepsake so i can get his cast more often but i've gotta wait for him to show up first 😔

#

i think him and zeus are the only gods i have left to get keepsakes from

amber kraken
#

I like his special, revenge and call boons, also jolted is okay but the rest are meh

oblique sun
#

jolted is stronk with the demeter duo

hallow peak
#

I am one shotting enemies in the temple of styx this is stupid

#

I love this

steady sierra
#

Demeter pog

simple moat
#

only in asphodel but rn i've got almost +200% on my special rn with 20% crit chance and concentrated volley

#

this is gonna be fun

#

should i take clean kill for even more insane damage or should i take hunter dash đŸ€”

#

clean kill is epic rarity but i dont have a dash yet

#

screw it i'll just take clean kill and hold out for athena dash

#

just got offered epic greatest reflex

#

+3 extra dashes 😳

#

this might be the most insane run i've ever gotten

high island
#

Epic Greatest Reflex is so nice.

simple moat
#

yeah especially since i got athena dash

#

i'm just zooming deflecting everything lmao

oblique sun
#

soundsfun

#

chiron?

simple moat
#

yup

#

i got the +4 shots hammer too

brittle canyon
#

Oh noes

#

It seems I bought Hades on my switch too early

simple moat
#

if i lose this i'm garbo

brittle canyon
#

Could've have just waited a couple of months and got it physical

#

I just realised

#

Oop

#

Oh well

#

A worthy sacrifice for probably the best game I've ever played

#

Thanks supergiant zagluv zagluv

#

Not like you're reading though lol

simple moat
#

it truly is a testament to how bad i am that i managed to take damage with 5 athena dashes and athena call

oblique sun
#

not really

#

athena isn't fool proof either :p

#

but yeah, relentless concentrated volley on chiron is big yes

granite shore
#

is there an april fools thing

#

im scared

#

my stegam decided to update hades

brisk trail
#

Haven`t seen a patch yet đŸ€”

#

Oh it just has been posted xd

half zephyr
#

lol

#

you too paranoid

celest saddle
#

bold of the devs to release a real patch on today of all days

teal compass
#

I was expecting the patch note ping to be something like "we removed Dusa"

brisk trail
#

Not a joke D:

sage marten
#

is it an actual patch or just an april's fools prank?

#

the world may never know

lucid cargo
#

Only one way to know and that's to play.

woven nacelle
#

So just saw the @, will there ever be any major updates again? Or is it only bug fixes after launch

rapid agate
#

cool patch

narrow hemlock
#

It is a completed narrative experience

arctic knot
#

bless them for not doing an April Fools, I've had so many pings today

rapid agate
#

dlc would be nice

half zephyr
#

...

half zephyr
#

@oblique sun

#

pls

#

I too tired to grab ss_bugcatpleadsie

oblique sun
#

There will most likely not be any DLC, at least not soon. Hades is the biggest game SGG has released and they're probably burnt out on it- but also adding something would be difficult due to it most likely breaking the storyline- think of it like a finished puzzle that you can't add pieces to without cutting the already-placed pieces.

half zephyr
oblique sun
#

dw about it

oblique sun
dapper vigil
#

after we clear main story, will we be able to go back to the area where persephone used to be?

rapid agate
#

greece?

oblique sun
#

no, no going back to greece :(

rapid agate
#

i don't think so

#

yeah sad

dapper vigil
#

aw it was so pretty

rapid agate
#

yeah

#

also

#

fishies

oblique sun
#

you can get fishies in dadfight luckily

half zephyr
#

you get fishies in fight place

rapid agate
#

but also

#

i missed out

#

on the sunset

#

a lot

#

shame on me

half zephyr
#

that's on you

#

do a new file

#

watch every sunset

#

or sunrise

#

both

#

watch them all

#

everything \0/

oblique sun
#

i always wondered

#

how is it that we always escape by sunrise

#

either those stairs between areas must be huge or something

brisk trail
half zephyr
brisk trail
flat dome
#

Is Trippy Flare in the patch notes supposed to be Trippy Shot since it's regarding Aspect of Hera? Isn't Flare specific to ||Beowulf||? (I'm just going off the wiki which could still be outdated since I can't remember off the top of my head in-game)

oblique sun
#

i used to think it's just the time between dying and going home is long but, no, because dying to dad he'd probably be back by then if it took so long-

rapid agate
#

someone please fix the wiki

#

not fix it

#

just

#

update it

#

i'd do it but i'm too unexperienced

oblique sun
#

the update just came out calm down

craggy barn
flat dome
#

It'd probably be a pretty big undertaking to update all the changes the wiki is behind on lol

half zephyr
#

I guess I'l update before I go sleeps

steady sierra
#

wtf Hades

flat dome
#

Ah, gotcha. Thank you spammy, so it is just a case of the wiki being outdated again lol

narrow hemlock
oblique sun
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i think it's called shot

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i don't use hera but in the boon codex all flares say "beowulf exclusive"

narrow hemlock
swift mist
narrow hemlock
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I lurk there, for instance, but I don't keep tabs on gameplay-related content, so any mistakes there is not going to be something I'm aware of.

flat dome
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Good point, I just know there are at least a few points of incorrect information, whether that's from updates or mistakenly transcribing the info

steady sierra
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I have switch like a clown đŸ€Ą

narrow hemlock
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I think some people expect wikis to be sources of infallible information, and when they aren't then they're "bad" but truth is most of the people doing the edit work are just regular players like the rest of us.

steady sierra
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but anyway, these ambrosia for titan blood trades do be looking hot rn

narrow hemlock
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hi greg sorry for the ping, disregard ):

steady sierra
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I need to save them though hrrrng

half zephyr
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I feel almost blessed

vale drift
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No worries, thank you for double checking! I can confirm Trippy Flare is offered while using the Aspect of Hera, instead of Trippy Shot.

half zephyr
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cuz I was gonna do a beowulf run next

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my first one

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so maybe I'll just do it on steam version instead of switch hehe

narrow hemlock
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thanks for confirmation!

flat dome
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Thank you for the confirmation Greg. Sorry for bringing it up without double-checking myself in-game

flat dome
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Regardless, glad to see that specific change, it's one of my favorite combos 🙂

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Sure did, egg right on my face too 😆

high island
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A good day to try out the new patch in the new Hades Monthly Challenge that's pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat! dusa

flat dome
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Oh lord, Heat 63

half zephyr
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I'd do it if I didn't want to keep my streak

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maybe once I finally lose it!

flat dome
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Appropriate challenge for April 1 I guess lol

high island
compact badger
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It's kinda mindblowing that "----- of the ----" gives nothing away yet is clear what it means for advanced enough players

rapid agate
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condition

half zephyr
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that's just not gonna happen

rapid agate
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STUPID HIGH HEAT

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also yeah

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just win

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duh-doy

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shadow are you telling us you can't beat the game on 63 heat?

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pfffft what a noob we all know 63 heat is the tutorial

oblique sun
half zephyr
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I am well aware that I'm a bad bad gamer

rapid agate
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sigil of the dead

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right

half zephyr
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and I find 12 heat scary

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so

oblique sun
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i expected that but it seems like the dashes are reversed

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"the call of the hades keepsake"
"the ----- of the ---- keepsake"

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maybe the dashes just aren't supposed to mean the number of letters

half zephyr
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sigil

dead

oblique sun
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oh, alright

half zephyr
high island
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But that doesn't check out.

----- of the ----
Sigil of the Dad

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See?

half zephyr
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it still fits if you just spell it right

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Sigil of the Dead

compact badger
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Yup, it's how it's censored in the patch notes

high island
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That's not how you spell dad.

half zephyr
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it is in this game