damn just now realized the wretched broker exists
#h1-discussion
uncut ore
a key is equal to 10 gems but all of the other trades are pretty BS
500 GEMS FOR A DIAMOND
bruh
glossy socket
Base damage increases statistically almost always provides more effect than adding % dmg increases. It is better to take an existing fraction of a larger base than a larger fraction of an existing base, at least in terms of what is provided here. For example, if you can level up doom flourish or attack vs. Impending Doom, the damage will be a little higher.
uncut ore
500 GEMS FOR A DIAMOND
what would be great tho is the ability to trade backwards
id rather have 20 nectar than 1 titan blood
half zephyr
Why
Eventually you’ll run out of people to give nectar to 
Just like you’ll run out of aspects to give blood
uncut ore
Eventually you’ll run out of people to give nectar to <:hehe:744708898656878692>
thats gonna take a while
desert meadow
By who? I've seen JP do a damageless run by abusing the acorn, but if you're referring to a pure hitless run, not sure who did it.
uncut ore
and titan blood is overrated anyways
half zephyr
Darkness is where it’s at
uncut ore
aspects are like +3% dps
half zephyr
No..
runic sparrow
@desert meadow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbHt6WlOqJM
tender lynx
just did 32 heat with rama hell yeah
desert meadow
Of course it's Haelian
runic sparrow
no abuse of any dodge/block/deflect
he just literally does not take any damage whatsoever
desert meadow
I'll need to give that a watch later then
uncut ore
I dont understand why zag thniks tisiphone is calling him a murderer
I think she just wants to murder him
half zephyr
Because she calls him a murderer?
half zephyr
wdym no, is there any very strong aspect?
Yes..
uncut ore
Because she calls him a murderer?
she just says murder murderer murder
runic sparrow
Aspect of Zeus is a fun aspect with 'special' boons
just toss out a shield and you've made a no-go zone
half zephyr
she just says murder murderer murder
You have to be later on in her dialogue
uncut ore
You have to be later on in her dialogue
oh ok
so odd that theres apparently so much story
half zephyr
No it’s not
uncut ore
but I literally havent experienced any of it and im like 50 hours in
half zephyr
It’s Greek mythology
You just have to talk to people, interact with them
Give gifts
uncut ore
lucky I dont have it spoiled yet
uncut ore
You just have to talk to people, interact with them
yeah
uncut ore
Give gifts
yep
desert meadow
but I literally havent experienced any of it and im like 50 hours in
I'm 116 hours in and there's still some story left via side plots and etc
half zephyr
Giving you background info & stuff
half zephyr
I'm 116 hours in and there's still some story left via side plots and etc
Same, I’m at 105+h now & still finding story
uncut ore
funny that thats considered a lot of hours in this game
half zephyr
It’s not
desert meadow
It's not
half zephyr
I’m a baby
desert meadow
I'll probably have about 200+ by the time I 100% the darn thing, outside of heat
half zephyr
And there’s aspects that give me 200+ attack
uncut ore
I have 600 hours in eu4 and I havent completed the tutorial
half zephyr
My dps becomes amazing
desert meadow
Insane but fun
uncut ore
just put these things in proportion
half zephyr
I do specials that are 1k+
final trellis
Took me 80 hours to get one clear
really it took me like 55 runs and 25 hours
half zephyr
And I’m not even doing the crazy stuff the heat people are doing
desert meadow
Yeah, I have yet to touch heat
half zephyr
I have fun with heats
desert meadow
I want to be decently consistent before then tbh
half zephyr
But I’m cautious w them
uncut ore
didnt press the windows key
half zephyr
really it took me like 55 runs and 25 hours
People be different 
desert meadow
I am considering trying max heat and seeing how far I get after maxing my first non aspect just for the heck of it
half zephyr
Max heat is 63
uncut ore
really it took me like 55 runs and 25 hours
it took me 35 tries and 38 hours???
half zephyr
You don’t get new rewards after 20
final trellis
I tried it and didn't even make it to the sisters
half zephyr
Or so
uncut ore
did you die tons of times in tartarus?
desert meadow
I'll probably die room 1 but it sounds stupid enough to try
half zephyr
Try it by beating Skelly
uncut ore
https://imgur.com/a/RLNqI0h this is hard
half zephyr
Get doom or smth on it
uncut ore
what do I pick?
half zephyr
Do not replace the doom
desert meadow
What aspect are you using?
uncut ore
uncut ore
What aspect are you using?
sheild
desert meadow
I'd go with her call
uncut ore
Do not replace the doom
yeah its like -150 dmg
uncut ore
I'd go with her call
its really useless
desert meadow
Doom on Zag shield special is good tbh
uncut ore
I had it a couple of times
half zephyr
Her call can be great
desert meadow
Nah, her call is amazing
half zephyr
If you use it right
uncut ore
sure
unborn remnant
hello
half zephyr
It’s all about timing
desert meadow
It's best when pommed, as that increases the time it lasts
half zephyr
If you don’t want the call then just do holy shield
unborn remnant
how we doing?
desert meadow
^
half zephyr
It’s always nice to have
desert meadow
I'd just take Athena call because the other good options may not pop up later on (Zeus and Poseidon)
unborn remnant
good runs recently?
desert meadow
I'm on a streak on 9 so I'd say so
marsh rivet
Max heat is 63 <:hehe:744708898656878692>
64 with Hell Mode
desert meadow
Had an insane Rama run with Zeus special and double strike
dusky wedge
Is there anything else important to do ||after the family reunion|| besides the stuffs from the contractor and ||resource director||?
unborn remnant
Pain Mode
half zephyr
64 with Hell Mode
Didn’t know
half zephyr
good runs recently?
Yet to play
half zephyr
Now you do :3
Indeed 
desert meadow
Is there anything else important to do ||after the family reunion|| besides the ...
Max out any character bonds you haven't already, heat, filling out the codex, and buying the rest of the house cosmetics are options
marsh rivet
It removes your invuln shield that comes up when you lose I think 20% of your health in a very short amount of time
hollow kettle
the fated list of minor prophecies
dusky wedge
Max out any character bonds you haven't already, heat, filling out the codex, an...
So, basically, the grinding stuffs, right? That’s all that’s left?
I’ve maxed out a lot of the characters already
dusky wedge
There’s also the badge
Resource director?
half zephyr
Resource director?
Ah, didn’t see your msg
Just the reply
unborn remnant
yeah
half zephyr
uncut ore
oh
dusky wedge
Ah, didn’t see your msg <:hehe:744708898656878692>
Just the reply
Oh lol
uncut ore
I swapped it out so I will swap it back in the styx
half zephyr
If you switch something out you can’t switch it back in
uncut ore
guess not
desert meadow
Yeah, the tooth is a last resort
half zephyr
Not if you wanna talk to Hermès 
desert meadow
So, basically, the grinding stuffs, right? That’s all that’s left?
Basically yeah, but there's always just trying runs to try runs.
dawn light
is there some issue with aphrodite last locked heart?
unborn remnant
Does hermes actually have the accent on the e
dawn light
I have all the romance characters bonds maxed out
but still can't get the last unlocked heart from aphro
dusky wedge
Basically yeah, but there's always just trying runs to try runs.
I see. Just thinking that I can finally slow down a bit from here on out lol
half zephyr
Does hermes actually have the accent on the e
It’s my phones autocorrect
unborn remnant
oh
half zephyr
I just don’t bother to correct it back
unborn remnant
Hermés
half zephyr
It’s the fashion brand
half zephyr
but still can't get the last unlocked heart from aphro
Rng?
That’s usually the answer to everything
dawn light
No, I can't even give her an ambrosia
dusky wedge
The weird belt thingy Hermès lol
half zephyr
If it’s still locked you can’t give it
uncut ore
damn my luck is horrible
half zephyr
If it’s unlocked idk
desert meadow
I've had 4 in a run before iirc
dawn light
that's so weird
half zephyr
You have to advance her story, do dialogue, maybe hit some unlock condition, make her trust you
Then it unlocks
For me it’s all been random for the gods
I got Ares first on accident
dusky wedge
Probably there’s still some conversations that’s still not discovered yet?
hollow kettle
I got Poseidon’s legendary before I got him to give me Rip Current
desert meadow
You have the locked heart condition met, now it's just rng till the game decides to give you the line that actually unlocks it
half zephyr
I got Poseidon’s legendary before I got him to give me Rip Current
Which one
uncut ore
I've had 4 in a run before iirc
yeah I have horrible luck tbh
dawn light
I've had everythign else unlocked for a long time
half zephyr
He has 2
hollow kettle
Both
dusky wedge
Some conversations require other conversations to happen first, I think
desert meadow
I got Poseidon’s legendary before I got him to give me Rip Current
He has 2
dawn light
You have the locked heart condition met, now it's just rng till the game decides...
okay, maybe just terribly unlocky
uncut ore
whats erebus?
half zephyr
He refused to give me wave one
hollow kettle
It’s the infernal gates
half zephyr
Pact stuff
hollow kettle
It’s a house contractor renovation you have to buy
half zephyr
You have to use heats to have any use from them
desert meadow
His legendary for increased fishing spot chances is also preset to appear once you first meet the conditions for it, that's why you got it before the other one.
uncut ore
damn hades pvp might be fun
half zephyr
His legendary for increased fishing spot chances is also preset to appear once y...
Ye, I just had bad rng
hollow kettle
But at a certain heat level you can go into them and you have to kill a bunch of enemies without getting hit you get the reward and if you don’t you get a raw red onion that heals you for 1 health
I am so terrible at those
half zephyr
I had all prerequisites for his 2nd legend multiple runs in a row
He just wanted to give me dio boons instead
hollow kettle
Literally even with the shield even with deflect boons
half zephyr
But at a certain heat level you can go into them and you have to kill a bunch of...
I’ve gotten the onion 2 times
I hate that I’ll have to get it 3 more times 
uncut ore
His legendary for increased fishing spot chances is also preset to appear once y...
wait I dont understand is that actually the best boon or is that a joke?
hollow kettle
I can’t do it
half zephyr
Ofc Huge Catch is best legendary
desert meadow
It's a good boon for catching fish, and that's about it
half zephyr
You get phish
uncut ore
it seems like an average legendary
half zephyr
And they give rewards
desert meadow
I'd go for it if you're not seeing fish spots in chaos much, otherwise nah
uncut ore
atleast to me
uncut ore
I'd go for it if you're not seeing fish spots in chaos much, otherwise nah
you can fish in chaos?
half zephyr
Gems
uncut ore
bruh
desert meadow
Yes
uncut ore
fish the void
half zephyr
Ambrosia, diamond, titan blood
grand crystal
you can also get diamonds, ambro, and titan blood from fish :3
desert meadow
Void fish are best fish
half zephyr
Fishing is amazing
half zephyr
Void fish are best fish
Agreed
dusky wedge
Void is a sea.. of darkness.. in space
uncut ore
I mean it gave me a few keys
half zephyr
Unless I need surface rewards
uncut ore
but like
dusky wedge
So, alien fish
half zephyr
Exactly
uncut ore
fishing is nice but it isnt OP
desert meadow
But you can also trade for stuff at the dealer if needed
uncut ore
No one has said it is
then why is poseidon boon the best?
half zephyr
dusky wedge
For the memes lmao
desert meadow
^
uncut ore
For the memes lmao
wait so it is like a joke?
I really dont get it
it seems like an average boon
dusky wedge
Yes
half zephyr
It’s nice if you get it in Tartarus
desert meadow
Not sure what the actual best legendary is tbh, maybe Aphrodite's? Randomly charming bosses can disrupt attacks, but idk
half zephyr
Terrible if you get it in styx
half zephyr
Not sure what the actual best legendary is tbh, maybe Aphrodite's? Randomly char...
I like ares legendary & Zeus
But it all depends on my build
The Hermès retrieve one is nice too
half zephyr
Insta return for bloodstone
desert meadow
Ares and Athena's are good, yeah
dusky wedge
Only ever got it once though
desert meadow
Chaos' is great
half zephyr
Only if you need dd
desert meadow
I just like Aphrodite's because I've gotten it the most
half zephyr
I don’t care for charm that much
By the time my enemy is charmed I’ve just about killed them 
half zephyr
Mine is getting from 150 gold to 141 I think
Then it was over
Or 75 gems to 69 
It’s not that difficult to clear troves
dusky wedge
Nice
cerulean ferry
Yeah...I enjoy dashing a lot so in Asphodel I just end up dashing into the lava like an idiot
desert meadow
Poseidon boons in Asphodel are great, just knock the enemies into lava
grand crystal
3 DUOS
i had a run where i got 5
and i was running for cold embrace
and i didnt get cold embrace
so it was very sad
uncut ore
lmao what
he just called on artemis
then I popped my athena
and he says "you cheat"
damn theseus
uncut ore
thats v hypocritical
uncut ore
thats how theseus be
yeah
grand crystal
yep
dusky wedge
Theseus and Alecto, world’s most lovable characters
uncut ore
and hades
proven brook
Theseus needs his ass beat.
uncut ore
dont forget hades
half zephyr
And Theseus is just an adorable angry little kitten
uncut ore
eh
grand crystal
yea hes just a dad trying his best
grand crystal
And Theseus is just an adorable angry little kitten
hehe yea
half zephyr
yea hes just a dad trying his best
With a vey demanding job
dusky wedge
Reminds me of all the shade’s requests that he rejected back at the house
half zephyr
We never get to hear the requests though
dusky wedge
“Rejected!” 
half zephyr
Maybe they all be requesting to come back to life for all we know
cerulean ferry
They might be
desert meadow
Maybe they're all as sick of Theseus as Zag is
indigo ginkgo
damn guan yu spin attack with dionysus boon looks so pretty
grand crystal
its a literal sack of dead rats
rotund galleon
3 round burst doesn't work with Hestia right?
half zephyr
And Vermin sometimes
rotund galleon
delta chamber
uncut ore
its a literal sack of dead rats
oh ok
rotund galleon
any idea?
uncut ore
wtf hades just glitched out
grand crystal
any idea?
no it doesnt
hestia works only with the first bullet
so i dont think it would work
since 1: youd have to keep reloading(which youre already doing but still)
2: delta shoots 3 and it only procks on the first one i think
uncut ore
wow I killed hades a 2nd time
grand crystal
but i could be wrong
grand crystal
wow I killed hades a 2nd time
epic 🥳
robust swan
Nice
rotund galleon
alright. 22000 darkness to go
cerulean ferry
wow I killed hades a 2nd time
Good job!!
rotund galleon
see you on the 30h time
sudden yarrow
That's pretty fast@uncut ore
rotund galleon
good job my man
uncut ore
That's pretty fast<@335329581190086658>
like 37 minutes
that isnt fast is it?
on 1 heat
sudden yarrow
I thought you said 10 minutes @uncut ore
uncut ore
10 minutes better than last time
sudden yarrow
Alright it makes sense now
uncut ore
can you enter hades's room?
sudden yarrow
His bed chamber?@uncut ore
half zephyr
My longest run is 37 min I think on heat 7 or 6 or 8
My normal run time is around the 30 min mark or down to 23 mins
Just dashing whenever possible
uncut ore
wtf wheres skelly
half zephyr
Still not ready for timer heat rank 2
grand crystal
td2 is stressful on high heat
uncut ore
wait I dont get something
on rank 2 you start with 5 minutes
and then it goes down by 2 minutes every world?
so like
you got -5 minutes to beat hades?
how?
uncut ore
then how?
grand crystal
td gives you a limit to get through each area in the game
uncut ore
isnt it 5 minutes for tartarus then 3 for asphodel etc
uncut ore
td gives you a limit to get through each area in the game
yaeh ik
grand crystal
starting at 9 minutes for base 1st
uncut ore
yes
grand crystal
and loosing 2 minutes every level
uncut ore
and 2nd starts at 5
uncut ore
and loosing 2 minutes every level
yes
uncut ore
oh ok
and what does tier 2 do?
start a 5?
and cap when?
also why would you play with so much heat? is there any reward for it?
grand crystal
and after you clear and area you get the next area time added on(i.e ending tart at 3 minutes left on a 7 minute td you now have 10 minutes to clear asphodel)
uncut ore
and after you clear and area you get the next area time added on(i.e ending tart...
oh ok
grand crystal
also why would you play with so much heat? is there any reward for it?
bounties refresh and bragging rights
uncut ore
so you have 9 minutes to finish the game with tier 2?
that sounds insane
like speedrun pace
grand crystal
tier 1 is 9 minutes per area
uncut ore
wait
uncut ore
in tier 1 you get 9 for tartarus then 7 for asphodel then 5 for elysium styx and greece
grand crystal
cool
uncut ore
ah ok I get it
so I can play with tier 1
wait hades boss fight is in greece or styx?
grand crystal
greece isnt a times area since its limited to story
he counts as styx
you arent timed for greece
uncut ore
so I can play with tier 1
I mean if I try to play as fast as possible I could get below 28 minutes
grand crystal
and td1 is essentially beat the game in 36 minutes so its ez :3
i play with td2 on high heat and im relatively ok
grand crystal
a bit odd tbh since like... hes above ground
greece is a story specific thing with persephone
after you beat the game(main story) it just ends at the hades fight
desert meadow
Hades counts as Styx because each area ends with a boss
He's the boss for Styx, even if the fight itself isn't in the temple
grand crystal
^^^ thats a better explanation than what i gave
sudden yarrow
He's the boss for Styx, even if the fight itself isn't in the temple
True
robust swan
Oof, I'm actually tempted to trade 1 blood for 200 gems in order to get the 500 gem trove upgrade.
covert mason
Hey guys, I'm trying to do a no boon challenge to get the secret dialogue. What counts as a boon exactly when doing this? Is it just not having the cast, special, attack, call, and dash? Do secondary boons count? Or chaos?
desert meadow
I would assume chaos boons count
covert mason
And will it still work if I had to pick up a boon, but purged it asap?
desert meadow
It's only when you reach Hades himself
So you can take boons beforehand but you must purge then later
covert mason
Ohh okay thanks
And daedalus doesn't count right? Because I was forced to take it and you can't purge those.
desert meadow
Nope, those aren't boons
covert mason
Thanks!
restive cave
explosive upper or rolling knuckle?
grand crystal
what aspect??
if demeter aspect take explosive and i think talos is better with rolling
covert mason
😭 I got screwed. There were zero purge fountains and now I'm stuck with 1 dio boon
grand crystal
rip
that happened to me once
i got a 3rd room sack and the sack was in a boon reward
covert mason
Damn. That sucks
grand crystal
yeaaa
my first time doing it tho i got lucky and used rama and got the boonless dialogue
covert mason
Nice! Guess I'll just have try again haha
cerulean ferry
Good luck
hollow kettle
I was looking at Patroclus quotes on the wiki and I just... it's really sweet that he's less harsh with Zag when they first meet if he comes through looking like visibly beat up https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/299969284418043904/814977557693988924/unknown.png
robust swan
I just got my first sub 30 minute clear 😁
robust swan
You'll get there, don't worry
hushed pumice
Try merciful End sword
unborn remnant
Lets gooo
robust swan
Here's a question for everyone, has anyone experienced dialog audio not playing sometimes? I've been having that happen every so often
uncut ore
https://imgur.com/a/mFDH576 did I just get a spoiler from steam?
wtf is the "main quest"
uncut ore
wtf is the "main quest"
dont answer me
vivid dagger
You answered yourself though 😂
vivid dagger
Here's a question for everyone, has anyone experienced dialog audio not playing ...
Nothing weird on my end as far as I could tell!
Uhm, so I assume that random game-related questions can be written here?
I read the readme-first channel but I'm still a bit confused
worldly swift
just bought hades, im really hyped to get into it
waxen juniper
https://imgur.com/a/mFDH576 did I just get a spoiler from steam?
If you've beaten a run at least once, that achievement is not spoiling anything.
brisk trail
Guys how do i
waxen juniper
Gonna have to be a million times more specific than that
waxen juniper
Uhm, so I assume that random game-related questions can be written here?
If it's in regards to Hades, then absolutely. If it is for a non-Supergiant game, that discussion is best left for #video-games
vivid dagger
It's regarding Hades
waxen juniper
Pyre, Transistor, and Bastion all have their own channels to ask questions related to them as well.
Then by all means! Ask away!
vivid dagger
Neat! Because I was wondering if it's a common thing that the Hydra heads don't...come out? In my plays they sometimes get stuck for maybe five seconds in the place where they spawn
It doesn't ruin the run for me but it has left me scratching my head on more than one occasion
dusky scaffold
1 more hour and I'm off for the weekend I recon this weekend imma get my first escape came really close last night and that was my first time getting to hades ( to be fair I new his moves before hand from watching runs) but im def a bit more familiar with them now after experiencing them
restive cave
does blood frenzy stack if you use multiple death defiance in one fight?
hollow kettle
Neat! Because I was wondering if it's a common thing that the Hydra heads don't....
that's just a normal thing I'm pretty sure
dusky scaffold
I can't wait to play
grand crystal
does blood frenzy stack if you use multiple death defiance in one fight?
i dont think so
light harness
sudden ember
Has anyone noticed the dialogue system? The game chooses lines that make sense in the context of your current progress in the story, last run you had (Zeus might remark that he thought I reached the surface in last run), the weapons you have (Hades might make a remark if you have the spear with Hades' element) and so much more!
I honestly don't know what data structure allows for such a rich system, any ideas how it's implemented?
vivid dagger
Someone made a video about that!
Let me see if I can find it
Oh, wait, are we allowed to share YouTube links here?
runic sparrow
I'm sure it probably checks a list of conditions, and each condition has some kind of weight attached or something
go for it sora, I shared one earlier
as long as it's hades related, you should be good
grand crystal
Oh, wait, are we allowed to share YouTube links here?
yea
runic sparrow
also question: Any story spoilers, or am I save on that front?
I've done quite a bit of the dialogue
but it'll still be nice to know if there's any actual plot that gets brought up
vivid dagger
In the video, you mean?
runic sparrow
yeah
vivid dagger
Let me check it up. I watched it shortly after I started playing and I don't remember getting spoiled
give me like 10 minutes and I'll go back at ya!
runic sparrow
seeing as it's about specific instances of dialogue, I doubt it's too spoiler heavy
vivid dagger
I don't remember getting spoiled but it won't hurt to quickly check it again
runic sparrow
they have so many little dialogue options that most players will never see
did you know Hades has dialogue for if you reach him boonless?
vivid dagger
I diiiid, thanks to Haelian, I think
runic sparrow
one of my favorites is that Hypnos comments on if you make it to the surface in one run, then in the very next run you die in the first couple of rooms
Zag even says 'I, uh, forgot something' when coming out of the pool
vivid dagger
I think I got that one 😂
grand crystal
Here it is! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwdYL0KFA_U&
AaAaaAa "pyre has almost 200mil permutations for the ending"
thats scary
vivid dagger
Ok so....Orpheus and Eurydice... So yeah, no heavy spoilers over here!
"Hades' true ending" yep, zero spoilers in the video!
lilac jolt
any tips on how to better catch fish in the game?
runic sparrow
Jengi: get faster reaction times
that's literally it
if you react to the tug faster, you have a better chance of getting better fish
lilac jolt
thanks
tight needle
The window is generous enough that if you get used to the tell and practice, it'll become fairly easy over time. Was definitely struggling initially but then got used to it and it was easy from there
runic sparrow
is there a tell beyond the flash as the fish actually grabs the lure?
tight needle
I don't think so, but i believe it's visual and audio. Personally I find that the audio queue is usually the thing that better aides me than the visual.
runic sparrow
I should try closing my eyes next time and see if that helps
tight needle
Question: Has Supergiant revealed any plans for the long term of Hades? Expansions, DLC, free updates of new zones and bosses of hell, expanded story/conversations/characters, etc.? I'd totally be down for paid content but just wanted to know if they've revealed any plans or links that i can follow up regarding that.
paper matrix
hey question — what exactly do themes do (from the house contractor)? are they just decorative for victory screen cards? or do they do stuff around the house too
grand crystal
hey question — what exactly do themes do (from the house contractor)? are they j...
its just visual
brazen lagoon
Question: Has Supergiant revealed any plans for the long term of Hades? Expansio...
They haven't revealed anything as of yet
grand crystal
but they look pretty and let you flex
grand crystal
is there a tell beyond the flash as the fish actually grabs the lure?
there is kinda a pattern to it
grand inlet
I thought SGG said Hades was finished?
grand crystal
like if it doesnt catch on the very first dip, then it can every other dip, so there is a bit of a pattern to the fish @runic sparrow
paper matrix
theres a bit of an audio cue with the flash too
idk how to describe it but like, it sounds diff
runic sparrow
Now that Early Access is over, what's next? Once we're sure our v1.0 launch has settled, our small team will be taking a break to recharge, and plan what's next. We'll be excited to say more about what's in store for us just as soon as we're ready.
@tight needle
When was 1.0 released?
mid december or something?
narrow hemlock
Question: Has Supergiant revealed any plans for the long term of Hades? Expansio...
There's no current plans and they haven't spoken about anything for the future. Typically they tend to move on with a new project, and even if there is something in the works for further Hades content, we probably wouldn't hear anything about it until they have something to present
As of current, Hades is ultimately a finished game with a resolved narrative and i personally wouldn't expect anything remotely on the scale a lot of people are hopeful for if we get anything else
runic sparrow
what scale are people expecting?
narrow hemlock
Like the comment I quoted
short geyser
to get skellys presents, do i need to beat hades or just reach the surface with enough heat?
runic sparrow
oh herp
grand crystal
to get skellys presents, do i need to beat hades or just reach the surface with ...
beat hades
runic sparrow
@short geyser I believe you need to actually clear that run
narrow hemlock
yes
runic sparrow
so you gotta tell dad to frick off
short geyser
okay first time trying anything higher than 2 heat, if i beat this it'll also finsih the propechy to do all the different pacts
tight needle
As of current, Hades is ultimately a finished game with a resolved narrative and...
Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. Supergiant is a fairly small team, and so for the most part I think they're very much a everyone works on the same project together thought process, and wouldn't have the people to split their goals.
Everything I can see seems more likely that they'll move onto their next project, but the design and success of Hades seems like there'd be room and opportunity to expand and grow as well, almost a bit more than their other games have.
Regardless, I'll likely be following whatever next thing they put out. I love the work they've done on all their titles, even if I didn't get into Transistor or Pyre as much as I've loved Bastion and Hades.
grand crystal
whats the best boon to look for with the special on the bows 4th aspect
i look for anything that applies a quick and easy curse like chill, jolted, hangover, etc
while i keep my main attack as aphro
allows for easy ps procking
restive cave
does richochet fire proc chain lightning on the target it bounces to also?
or would piercing fire be better with the aspect of eris attack with chain lightning
copper canopy
Maybe?
It doesn’t seem to proc them if you’re using Sea Storm
But it might if it’s that instead.
rich acorn
What's the ability that stops you from getting stunned?
copper canopy
Sturdy
rich acorn
Who's it from?
copper canopy
Certain boons and hammer upgrades grant it, it will say in the description if it does.
rich acorn
Ah my bad, I think it's a specific boon
Unshakable mettle, it's a Poseidon and Athena Duo
grand crystal
that doesnt give you sturdy
thats just a damage res boon
sturdy is given by hammers only i think
like colossal knuckle, that one spear one
oh hermes gives it nvm
copper canopy
Wait when you say stun, do you mean flinching or stun like from the hand enemies?
rich acorn
Yeah I'm thinking of the stun from like the green bottles in the Hades fight
grand crystal
oh thats different
copper canopy
Yeah that kind of stun doesn’t have a resistance iirc
rich acorn
Or tisiphone's whip
copper canopy
Just make like a potato and mash
grand crystal
^^lol yea
rich acorn
Really?
grand crystal
yeaa
rich acorn
Wow
grand crystal
i dont think anything gives you res to those
since sturdy is exclusively flinching
rich acorn
Ive used it before Ig I just never got caught with that boon
broken marsh
whats the most max hp you have ever had?
jagged trellis
I just died at the end of the game while someone was talking to me and I wasn’t paying attention
Is there anyway to go back?
I was gonna beat it
jagged trellis
It would have been my first time beating it
broken marsh
ur not done after hades u know
there a but more u need to do to "complete the game"
narrow hemlock
your first win is frankly just opening up the game
there's a lot of gameplay and narrative that doesnt unlock until you complete your first run
vivid dagger
Gentle reminder that God Mode is a viable option for everyone!
jagged trellis
there a but more u need to do to "complete the game"
Beating the game or 100%ing?
broken marsh
beating the game
i mean beating the game is getting all wareapons and completing all the heat
grand crystal
"beating the game" is different for everyone
but the main plot solves after ||10 clears||
narrow hemlock
if you're just gunning for the credits, that takes 10 wins if thats all you want to see. there will be a lot of narrative and gameplay you skip out on though
jagged trellis
Oh I guess that’s why the ign guy said it took him 31 attempts
grand crystal
yea and if you want epilogue itll take some more :3
but just play to where youre content
jagged trellis
I was confused cuse I was gonna beat it on 13
grand crystal
yea rogue likes have a lot more that requires beating it several times
i dont know a single rogue like that just ends after beating it once
narrow hemlock
really just depends on the game. with hades the narrative is interwoven with the gameplay and your deaths are used to drive the narrative further
final trellis
hades is so good omg
jagged trellis
How many phases does the final boss have?
robust swan
I started working on unlocking cosmetic items for the house and it is also an enjoyable part of the game
carmine ravine
Its like the sims with extra steps
spare tiger
Hey how much is it to unlock EM4 again?
carmine ravine
I dont remember but its probably pretty cheap
spare tiger
I remember it being like 3 or 4 diamonds
pine copper
im pretty sure its 4 or 5
carmine ravine
Thats kinda cheap
wild solar
JGHSFGJDFG eurydice called Orpheus Orphy and I am living for itttt
indigo ginkgo
Hey how much is it to unlock EM4 again?
100 gems
ancient current
just got a run ended by a stupid rat
Man i hate styx with a passion
every single enemy in that area can screw off
robust swan
Man i hate styx with a passion
Absolutely, AoE is going to be a huge help for the temple
grand shale
hearty bramble
saving my money for when sgg releases hades merch... o how i wait 🥺
wild solar
God the music for Persephone's place is yes
spare tiger
just got a run ended by a stupid rat
The tiny rat?
ancient current
Nah the big poison rats
spare tiger
Oh
Seriously though tiny rat can go die in the deepest hole in hell
That thing devouers my death defiances
ancient current
the tiny rats are the easiest styx enemies to deal with for me
ancient current
Oh yea i’ve heard about
that miniboss i think
but i haven’t fought it in a run yet
spare tiger
I swear that bastard has more health than hades
You REALLY don't wanna run into it in styx
carmine ravine
the miniboss isnt that hard, it even have only 1 phase
spare tiger
Unless you have 2 defiances minimum and near full health
I'd just get out of styx when you can
ancient current
so glad i’ve only had to go through all five dungeons once
ancient current
i’ve gotten the sack in the second dungeon i went in several times now
spare tiger
90% of the time you'll get the sack within 3
And on the off chance you dont it's usually in the 4th room
ancient current
Yea i always go through the non boss doors
waxen juniper
Usually you want to actually go through the boss doors first. 1) they are faster and 2) they give better loot
carmine ravine
they are too afraid of the tiny vermin, probably bcoz they cant do enuf dmg
waxen juniper
Then it's time for them to face their fears 😎
ancient current
i haven’t even seen the tiny vermin yet
But yea guess i can do that next run
waxen juniper
Tbh, non boss doors are actually much harder since the waves of enemies are quite tough in styx
ancient current
tell me about it
waxen juniper
For bosses in styx, you only have 1 giant enemy that occasionally spawns another enemy from time to time. The enemy count is significantly less.
Of course, this is not true for tiny vermin
wild solar
Did Zag and Than just do what I think they did
waxen juniper
May wanna talk about this in #h1-story-discussion 😉
acoustic quartz
i just spent all my steam wallet money to get level 4 hades badge....................
idk if i regret it or not
copper canopy
Did Zag and Than just do what I think they did
Yes, they did in fact ||finally play the board game you bought||
vestal dagger
where do i go to report a bug?>
while playing
dusky scaffold
ok im gettin out tonight yehaw
maybe
i think my best bet on getting out is next time the sword gives me bounuse darkness
dusky scaffold
thank you
hearty bramble
we deserve a fishing keepsake for increased fish chance
acoustic quartz
reached him twice but second phase kills me both times
acoustic quartz
we deserve a fishing keepsake for increased fish chance
yes please
make this an extra effect of poseidon boon or make new fish character
fish character would be pog
hearty bramble
LOL fish character
i was thinking poseidon keepsake buff
idk we just deserve more fish
acoustic quartz
wait i meant keepsake not boon lmao
but yea i also think there should be a keepsake for better fish chances
brisk trail
I lovvvv Poseidon
potent root
so does refreshing nectar give your next set of three boons an upgrade or is the next 3 boons you pick up?
manic bobcat
The next 3 boons you pick up I'm fairly sure.
untold blade
hi, i have some questions about hades on the switch
will each switch profile have their own set of saves?
potent root
thats a good question - and which one is part of the save share with steam
eager kindle
will each switch profile have their own set of saves?
I think this is the case with every Switch game, no?
potent root
I think this is the case with every Switch game, no?
Animal crossing share sthe same town with everyone
sooo kinda not always?
untold blade
yeah, AC doesn't do that
eager kindle
Maybe AC is the outlier? 😂
untold blade
thanks!
potent root
it might be, nintendo was weird about it
untold blade
also, once i enable cross-saves, i can play on either steam or switch and my save will get transferred right?
eager kindle
Yep
untold blade
thanks again
i already have it on steam, i wanna get it on my switch so my siblings can play as well
karmic trellis
Hearing the Hades title theme music after beating [REDACTED] for the first time just made me feel like a badass
It feels so good. I love the way this game makes me feel.
I'm making a Hades review.
I love this game to no-end.
simple tulip
does the satyr sack always appear in one of the chambers with a boss?
proven brook
Yes, they did in fact ||finally play the board game you bought||
And Zag is indeed ||a bottom||.
proven brook
does the satyr sack always appear in one of the chambers with a boss?
Nah, it's random.
In any case, if the sack appears in a chamber with the boss symbol, there's no boss to fight.
simple tulip
what does it mean then?
doing a rail run right now. i equipped the zeus keepsake to get zeus attack but here a god ive never (demeter) seen offers me 53%+ damage with "chill"
do i accept it
or go for demeter special
proven brook
I never tried that 53% damage, but the special is cool.
simple tulip
inflicts chill too
proven brook
what does it mean then?
If you've gone through all the chambers and that one just so happens to have a boss symbol, you'll get your sack there and not fight a boss.
simple tulip
but going for demeter atk means i cant get zeus attack D:
yeah yeah
i got it in the 3rd chamber
but by then i lost my death defiance to the damn satyrs
so i couldnt beat hades
proven brook
Shiiii-
simple tulip
anyways would a zeus attack or demeter +53% attack be better
proven brook
Demeter. I'm not a fan of Zeus's attack. The lightning bouncing is cute, but nothing good tbh.
simple tulip
it 2x my dps though
late game i get art support fire and possibly the zeus legendary splitting bolt and i do a lot of damage
pine copper
for casual runs I really like demeter attack and special
simple tulip
yeah i got the demeter attack
i wish i gave her a nectar though
:(
i forgot abt it
pine copper
she'll be back
pine copper
well I speedrun with eris and zeus attack like most people lol
brisk trail
Zeus by a pretty wide margin.
pine copper
but like I said I think demeter is more fun when im playing casual
brisk trail
Fun is subjective, so if that's what you prefer than play it.
brisk trail
Not fast, but super scary with Crystal Clarity.
Get Stygian Soul, Glacial Glare, a few extra Bloodstones, and a couple of Poms and you can get upwards of 10 Crystals on the ground all at the same time.
karmic trellis
Get Stygian Soul, Glacial Glare, a few extra Bloodstones, and a couple of Poms a...
"I fear no man, but that thing- it scares me."
acoustic quartz
light show lmao
brisk trail
"Hey, Father, you know how normally I hide behind the pillar while you have your rave?"
manic moat
get mirage shot also
stoic violet
What happens when you max out characters with ambrosia and stuff? I've only done it with Chiron (the boatman, dunno if I spelled that right) and he gave me a bossfight. What do the actual boon gods do?
I've also spammed them on Dusa and Skelly because they're awesome
untold blade
What happens when you max out characters with ambrosia and stuff? I've only done...
(Charon, Chiron is the centaur)
restive cave
the 4th aspect on the gun i think is the highest damage build ive been able to put together, i used lightning boon for the special and then made it have a chance to strike twice, i didnt know what daddy hammer boons would be best for it but i did have a concentrated volley with it
ended up losing at the end because i didnt have athena dash like a pleb
simple tulip
what is the item called? that theseus and sterius drops the 1st time u kill tjem?
nvm i found out its ambrosia
is ambrosia for titan blood a worth trade?
restive cave
yeah id say it is, unless you have a npc friend who is waiting to receive it in order to increase your relationship
simple tulip
huh? is that what ambrosia does?
the only npc i have maxed out is cerberus at 3 stars
restive cave
well the nectars are nice but how are they gonna know how reeaally special they are
simple tulip
what?
narrow hemlock
ambrosia has another purpose but leveling special keepsakes you get later
restive cave
i mean how special they are as people, not how special the nectar is lol
simple tulip
oh. so ambrosia is like nectar
narrow hemlock
its upgraded nectar, yes
simple tulip
what happens if i give ambrosia to cerberus
restive cave
not all npcs want it
narrow hemlock
same thing that happens when you gift nectar to someone. you get some dialogue and add a heart to their affinity
narrow hemlock
you cant gift anyone ambrosia until you clear the 
in the codex for them
restive cave
||max out nectars until you reach a point where you cant get further with any more nectars, then youll have the option to give them ambrosia, they will reward you with a super powerful keepsake||
simple tulip
you cant gift anyone ambrosia until you clear the <:heartlock:742224421623824384...
cerberys doesnt pop up in codesx though
narrow hemlock
perhaps 😄
simple tulip
he has popped up
restive cave
is daedalus in the codex? i was looking for the entry earlier and didnt see it
simple tulip
you cant gift anyone ambrosia until you clear the <:heartlock:742224421623824384...
all i have is 1 heart with a ribbon and another heart without a ribbon
narrow hemlock
daedalus hammers are, not daedalus himself because he has no presence in the game's narrative
simple tulip
is daedalus in the codex? i was looking for the entry earlier and didnt see it
well daedalus doesn't appear as person
simple tulip
all i have is 1 heart with a ribbon and another heart without a ribbon
how many more hearts do i need?
narrow hemlock
all i have is 1 heart with a ribbon and another heart without a ribbon
the lock should appear uh.. i believe its 5 gifts in. the game will block you from gifting nectar once you hit it.
restive cave
are you able to view all the hammer boons in the codex?
narrow hemlock
no
simple tulip
ah
restive cave
i wanted to view the daedelus boons like im able to view ares or zeus' boons in the codex but i probably am blind or something but i didnt see it in there
hollow hawk
you can view them with a mod named Pony's QOL improvements
narrow hemlock
its something people have asked for but it does not exist natively in the game
narrow hemlock
what i said wasnt false, the hammers are mentioned in the codex
its just that theres no way to view each individual one like you can with boons later.
the reason the boon ones are there is because they can be a bit more confusing for players to navigate certain requirements for specific boons
quiet canopy
is there something like best mirror options or is it personal ?
narrow hemlock
kinda depends on the kind of run you're going for since some mirror perks are situational
can always check in #h1-builds-and-combat for mirror advice if you're ever unsure about something
dusky scaffold
epic tidal dash on the nemisis aspect right off the bat
this is gonna be a good run
restive cave
is tidal dash pretty good? i only ever use athenas dash
dusky scaffold
another posidan room
im feelin good
ive gotten the furthest with it and tbh i really like posidans boons lol all his boons be fun tidal dash being my favourit of em
dawg and an epic razor shoals
honestly if i wasent having a lot of fun id pause the run till im more sober but imma just send it
dusky scaffold
im like barly focusing rn and im clearing the first area and stacking on the butterfly keep sake i can def feel the improvment
runic parrot
er typhoons fury? i forget
dusky scaffold
this could be the run
dusky scaffold
hmm im stucj non of these seem particularly great what would you say is better dash nova or super nova
@acoustic quartz wait they changed so i can switch to the spiked later?
or was it alwasy like that
acoustic quartz
?
dusky scaffold
i remember a vidoe guide
acoustic quartz
wdym
dusky scaffold
said somthing about using it then switching keep sakes and keeping the bounuse dmg
acoustic quartz
pretty sure the damage bonus is gone if you switch out pierced butterfly
lemme double check
dusky scaffold
kk
acoustic quartz
according to wiki it is lost
runic parrot
it is lost
narrow hemlock
hermes and thanatos keepsake do not retain bonuses if you switch them, they're keepsakes you commit your whole run to
dusky scaffold
dame almost got a hitless furry got hit by a dang orb from teh bullet hell atk
furie
i cant speel rn
spell
restive cave
i think the bonus death defiance keepsake lets you keep after switching but i could be wrong
dusky scaffold
furies?
simple tulip
is there a % tracker for hades after u beat the game?
or how do you know if you have 100% completed the game
just curious
half zephyr
i think the bonus death defiance keepsake lets you keep after switching but i co...
Nope, I think I remember losing it
civic pendant
Are Erebus gates bonus rooms or do they take up one of the rooms in a biome
restive cave
is cluster bomb pretty decent with rocket bomb?
i was doing an eris chain lightning build but hammer rng was bad
civic pendant
Yeah cluster+rocket is decent. You have to be a bit close to hit with all, mind
granite ether
Are Erebus gates bonus rooms or do they take up one of the rooms in a biome
they take up a room in the biome, except if it appears in the room prior to the final shop, in that case it'll be an extra (same with chaos portals)
carmine ravine
Get cluster + rocket
half zephyr
Other then Eris cluster+rocket is epic
runic parrot
is cluster bomb pretty decent with rocket bomb?
cluster rockets are THE best combo hammers for eris
rockets boost the time needed for your special to hit while cluster makes sure they actually hit
half zephyr
Guess it’s just me that doesn’t like rocket on Eris then
restive cave
do i get bonus eris damage if i stand in overlapping bombs?
i mean does the bonus overlap too
simple tulip
is hestia or eris better
runic parrot
it just makes it easier to get hit by them
hestia is better for single damage, eris can be better for crowd control
i think generally eris is used as a speedrun wep while hestia for high heat
simple tulip
wdym by crowd control? eris doesn't have cc
simple tulip
i think our definitons of crowd control r different then
simple tulip
put zeus on attack
yeah i already do
runic parrot
idk i always put zeus on attack because i have no idea what else to put on it
runic parrot
i think our definitons of crowd control r different then
i think the word im looking for is room clearing
simple tulip
people told me to go artemis on hestia
simple tulip
i think the word im looking for is room clearing
or AOE damage?
simple tulip
people told me to go artemis on hestia
but i have a level 1 hestia
runic parrot
nah aoe is more the base rail special
im thinking about clearing the entire room
but it works i suppose
arty is ok on hestia
simple tulip
im thinking about clearing the entire room
isnt this the point of every weapon lol
runic parrot
i think what i'd go for is aphro on attack and arty on dash
simple tulip
then you could say hestia has crowd control
runic parrot
isnt this the point of every weapon lol
i mean it's easier with zeus attack on eris.
generally.
restive cave
whats the best cast boon to use with beowulf?
runic parrot
whats the best cast boon to use with beowulf?
trippy imo
hushed pumice
Flood is the best
Trippy has the highest ceiling but is also harder to use
Flood Flare, Deadly Strike, Mirage Shot
viscid fern
any way to make trippy drop faster?
dry mango
What fruit does this quote refers to?
"In his great hurry to explore the country-side, the hapless-footed Prince steps on the peel of a most-exotic sallow-colored fruit, and tumbles backward with such sudden, violent force that you-know-what occurs."
Would it be a Durian?
loud lintel
isnt it just a banana
restive cave
what do i gotta do to make guan yu good?
half zephyr
What fruit does this quote refers to?
```
"In his great hurry to explore the cou...
It’s just a banana
The whole joke about slipping on a banana peel & all
viscid fern
what do i gotta do to make guan yu good?
focus on the firecracker and upgrade it to lv 5
craggy barn
and definitely upgrade it if you can
copper canopy
I’d argue you should focus on making the spin attack last longer or charge quicker
buoyant merlin
Hades.
hollow hawk
that is the name of the game, indeed
unborn remnant
yes
craggy barn
pittoo
unborn remnant
Dark Pit?
copper canopy
The response I was looking for was “Hades”
I would have also accepted “Spongebob”
robust swan
what do i gotta do to make guan yu good?
Idk, my first time using it I somehow managed to get a win lol so I just assumed it was automatically good
uncut ore
ayyy just got poseidon's legendary
is it OP or is it bad?
its seems just OK
dont get why its a meme
holy
1 legendary and 1 duo in tartarus
median holly
https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/kxcqen/uh_zag_i_dont_think_thats_how_you_walk/
The other day, I was playing with the aspect of Beowulf, and then a weird animation bug happened...
To this day, I still have no idea what caused it.
half zephyr
dont get why its a meme
I don’t get why half the things that are memes are memes ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I actually just do happen to love getting Huge Catch early on
uncut ore
just got a chaos boon that its debuff is actually pretty strong for my build
I have this duo that does that if my cast ammo is on the ground it deals hella damage to basically everyone
and I have a chaos boon that means I cant pick up the cast ammo
thats a win-win
uncut ore
also
is there a way for me to know if theres fishies
without scouring the whole map?
brazen lagoon
There's a 'ding' sound whenever a fishing spot is in the chamber
uncut ore
There's a 'ding' sound whenever a fishing spot is in the chamber
ok
kinda like the chaos gate sound?
brazen lagoon
More like those bells you see at restaurants and hotel receptions
The tiny round ones with the thing on top
uncut ore
More like those bells you see at restaurants and hotel receptions
ok
damn 3 duos
thats absolutely insanew
and im only in asphodel
finally my horrible luck for over 15 runs is paying off
ah actually 2 duos
and 1 legendary
WHY IS FISHING SO STRESSFUL
hearty bramble
what do i gotta do to make guan yu good?
here is a useful thread that helped me get a clear right away! :) https://twitter.com/eriochromatic/status/1357511996350976000?s=19
copper canopy
I got this weird but funny bug once
After I beat Asterius as a mini-boss, when he walked out of the arena, it was super fast for some reason.
He just nyoomed right out of there.
copper canopy
wait why is he orange?
So they stand out.
copper canopy
Nah just the one
copper canopy
It’s just ghosts technically don’t have genders
uncut ore
thats so sweet
uncut ore
It’s just ghosts technically don’t have genders
oh ok