tiny tundra
So it does not mean, for instance, that an un-prioritized cannot appear until there are less than three prioritized boons?
And is this only for the very first boon you encounter in any chamber, or does it only apply to a boon if you encounter it in the landing chamber?
versed verge
I assume for only first boon since if it wasnt it would force your first 2 boons to be a selection of the 4 since you only get 3 slots to choose from... Tho it could mean that it's specifically for that God
No wait it can't be since i wanted aphro's special and didn't get it till like ||Styx||
tiny tundra
I see.
I think I’ve gotten a few un-prioritized boons despite not having encountered that god in a run before, so that makes sense.
stiff summit
I need some fire boons in this game hephaestus pls
hushed schooner
yeah that is strange
the lack of
any fire oriented boons
there should be hades boons in some form rbh
i know there's the || hades call from his keepsake|| but
it would be nice to have some of his boons
tiny tundra
I feel like Hephaestus would have been well suited for the Daedalus Hammers.
Apollo would be more suited for a fire status effect.
At least in my mind.
hushed schooner
daedalus
stiff summit
||tbh yeah i'd love it if we get some boons from him. Maybe just 5 or so boons that improve his call or add twists to it. Spin it off as him adding more help to test his underworld security||
Hephaestus is literally the god of fire though. Apollo is more related to sun
tiny tundra
Hephaestus is more closely related to smithing and metalworking, as far as I know. Fire is part of that, though. You’re right that Apollo is less about fire and more about the Sun.
Really, Hestia is probably the best pick for a fire status effect, being the goddess of the hearth and all.
Hephaestus is also volcanoes, which fits the fire theme.
manic bobcat
What would a fire effect be even?
waxen juniper
Yea... Merciful End fists is kinda silly
stiff summit
I'd say Daedalus is fitting for the hammers. He is more like a tinkering inventor of crazy stuff so his job of adding twists to existing weaponssuits him just right.
plucky brook
Yea... Merciful End fists is kinda silly
they are big weird, I don't love it
manic bobcat
You need Divine Dash
plucky brook
I prefer just a zeusy-aphro/dio special, kinda thing
stiff summit
Hephaeatus, being a god and a blacksmith, is more of forging legendary weapons and that has no place in the game i think.
tiny tundra
What would a fire effect be even?
Well, if you gave burn to Hestia, who is the goddess of the hearth and home, burn could be a DOT that restores a portion of the damage dealt to you.
waxen juniper
You need Divine Dash
Oh I have it. I mean silly as in "why on Earth is this okay?" 😆
stiff summit
Hestia can't be added if Dionysus is the twelfth Olympian.
manic bobcat
Hephaeatus, being a god and a blacksmith, is more of forging legendary weapons a...
Literally every weapon in the game are legendary weapons :D
stiff summit
Literally every weapon in the game are legendary weapons :D
Exactly. He is not the person to add twists to existing weapons. He doesn't provide the hammers. His job is to forge new weapons.
manic bobcat
Interesting take but that makes sense
plucky brook
am I missing something really obvious with ME?
hold attack > dashstrike > hold attack> dashstrike 
(with athena dash ofc)
stiff summit
You might be comparing it to old videos where the doom effect didnt have to be reapplied
waxen juniper
Merciful end is very strong
tiny tundra
A very modern invention (past 60 years or so) is that Hestia gave up her throne on Olympus and offered it to Dionysus in order to keep the peace of the Olympian home and offer the partially mortal Dionysus eternal life as a full god, so they could do something with that.
Alternatively, Hermes, despite being an Olympian god, is already very much treated as an outlier among the Olympians gameplay-wise.
stiff summit
Now you have to reapply it but it still is very good
Oh true. He could replace Hermes' seat on the throne. Although that'd be very unfaithful to Greek myth and SG has been faithful so far.
tiny tundra
The game also doesn’t seem terribly concerned with representing all twelve Olympian gods equally, given that Apollo and Hephaestus are absent altogether while Hera only appears as an aspect.
I also don’t see why a non-Olympian god couldn’t offer a boon, given that Chaos already does so. Hestia could simply be a non-Olympian.
I agree that SG has been particularly faithful thus far.
stiff summit
Maybe Hephaestus Curse Effect could be Brittle. Something like taking extra damage once you've hit an enemy a certain amount of times then they "break" for a burst of AoE fire damage.
manic bobcat
I'm sure someone can dig up what Greg said regarding these
versed verge
Actually sometimes hestia and Dionysus will be on the council and hades will be the one excluded in some myths
tiny tundra
Hades is not a standard member of the twelve Olympians, as far as I know.
stiff summit
Hades was never an Olympian
tiny tundra
He’s usually considered a separate thing.
Hades is an Olympian in some ancient Greek religious traditions, but it’s not mainstream.
Some authors even put Iris on Olympus.
stiff summit
Iris? The rainbow god?
stiff summit
Why? How significant was she in certain cultures?
Yeah, the greek myth book we were made to read in high school had Dionysus and Hestia as the twelfth god. Depending on the source of the myth as in cultural relevance in that area or city
tiny tundra
Almost all ancient sources agree that there were twelve Olympians, but they can vary a lot in which ones they include. Hades, Iris, Hestia, and Dionysus are all sometimes Olympians and sometimes not.
Iris, as far as I know, was not particularly significant and did not have any cult following. She was just an object of minor worship. As for why she was sometimes on Olympus, I do not know.
versed verge
6 children of cronos, hermes, the twins, ares, hephaestus, and Aphrodite are the normal 12 Dionysus is not counted tho some will switch hestia with him or switch hades with him
stiff summit
Twins?
versed verge
Yeah them
tiny tundra
They’re twins.
versed verge
Leto's kids
stiff summit
Damn i did not know that. I knew they both used bow and arrows and they represent sun and moon. Didn't know they were twins though.
tiny tundra
I think some ancient sources even put Hera’s little sister or Ganymede on Olympus.
Not sure if they “throned” them, though.
versed verge
Yep, born of Zeus and leto after leto was cursed by hera to never give birth on the earth so she gave birth on a sky island that traded it's magic of being in the sky to allow her to bare the twins
brazen lagoon
Apollo wasn't actually god of the sun until helios gave up the role to him
I think
stiff summit
Maybe apollo just has an affinity for the sun? Not exactly the god representing it? Not sure.
versed verge
Depends of which Apollo funny enough. I forget the Greek terms but one form of apollo was called helios Apollo and he was like the last Apollo form. Forget what he was called before that
tiny tundra
A modern invention is that Apollo is the god of the Sun while Helios is the personification of it.
My understanding is that Apollo was not originally associated with the Sun but gradually came to be conflated with Helios.
versed verge
Yeah that
tiny tundra
I don’t think Helios was worshipped very much until Apollo was identified with him.
versed verge
It wasn't the ancient Greeks that saw him as sun God but like people a few hundred years after
stiff summit
Huh apollo apparently is the god of healing and medicine as well
leaden summit
Isn't appolo the one who rides the sun chariot across the sky while helios is the sun or something like that?
tiny tundra
Apollo is the god of a lot of different things.
brazen lagoon
He's the god of plague as well
leaden summit
Huh apollo apparently is the god of healing and medicine as well
He is also associated with prophecies iirc
brazen lagoon
His son asclepius is the god of healing
tiny tundra
I can’t really speak for Greek culture, but Apollo was the quintessential Roman god.
versed verge
But Hermes is God of more
tiny tundra
If you want an embodiment of Roman ideals, it’s Apollo.
brazen lagoon
He was the god of archery and the lyre as well
versed verge
Music, healing, sun, the arrow but not the bow that's his sister, and I think turtles
tiny tundra
I believe Helios is the one who drive the chariot. Apollo may have picked that up later on, though.
Apollo’s association with turtles mainly has to do with the importance of turtle shells in divination, if memory serves.
brazen lagoon
Apollo was the god of a lot of stuff
versed verge
Yeah and I think it made him god of them but I might be wrong
tiny tundra
I think the relationship between Apollo and Helios is not dissimilar to the relationship between Artemis and Selene.
stiff summit
The double negative hahha
versed verge
Just wait till y'all hear about hermes and how much he was the God of. Travlleing, trade, merchants, distance, borders, running, money, gold, the dead but not death like thanatos nor the dead in the same way hades is, but instead the God of transporting the dead and more that I can't think of at 1am
brazen lagoon
Wasn't he like the trickster god or something
versed verge
Oh yeah trickster too
split vigil
Pan Hermes was terrifying and then it devolves into Goat Boi and Fast Twink
versed verge
I should know that since I made him a jester npc in my dnd campaign lmao
versed verge
Probs why him and charon ||know each other in game||
narrow hemlock
I'm sure someone can dig up what Greg said regarding these
what are you looking for
manic bobcat
About how he didn't care about giving every gods a spot, just the ones that make sense for the story
I think it's in #ask-supergiant somewhere
narrow hemlock
gotcha #ask-supergiant message
tiny tundra
He also had this to say:
@sand cobalt 'Why did you include minor deitys like hermys in hedes but not major ones like hera or hafestus'
We wanted a mix of those big iconic names from Greek myth, such as Hades and Athena, and also some less-well-known ones such as Hypnos and Megaera. Part of it is just... the canon myth around some of these characters is so fascinating that it's kind of shocking to me they're not portrayed in media more often. Primordial Chaos is my favorite example of this... the idea that everything sprang from Chaos is like straight out of a heavy metal album cover, and in a story that's ultimately about family, having the great-great grandparent in there made a lot of sense.
The game also is about a specific story, so a character like Demeter has way more of a connection to it inherently than a character like Apollo. Even though Apollo is way better known than Demeter, we opted to include characters that fit the story best. Tisiphone, Alecto, Patroclus, and Demeter were characters we didn't always think would end up in this game but made more and more sense as we moved forward.
narrow hemlock
and this one #ask-supergiant message
manic bobcat
gotcha https://discord.com/channels/456889434672201729/477164376496013323/672881...
You're a godsend lol
versed verge
They are right. Primordial chaos is such a cool idea that should be used in media more
tiny tundra
Is primordial chaos that uncommon? It’s a very common idea across many cultures, from what I’ve seen.
Also, didn’t know Demeter was that unpopular. I mean, she is an Olympian. Apollo and Hera are certainly more popular, but Demeter’s up there for me.
manic bobcat
I don't think it's that common tbh
versed verge
Like the only good part of the hero's of olympus series sequel of the percy Jackson series is they have primordial tartarus
manic bobcat
Like it's there but never really the focus
We need more Eldritch Horror games. Love those
tiny tundra
I don't think it's *that* common tbh
It’s pervasive at least in the Ancient Near East to the degree that the Abrahamic religions and their common ancestor are noteworthy for directly contradicting that sentiment.
Genesis is a very notable text in terms of how it depicts cosmogony.
versed verge
Well i think in religion, primordials in general are super common
Like God from the bible is a primordial
tiny tundra
Well, yes. As far as I know, most mythologies have some sort of primordial being.
Primordial chaos is fairly common, but the Abrahamic religions are notable for primordial order.
versed verge
Like the only good part of the hero's of olympus series ~~sequel of the percy Ja...
I used my wording here wrong. He's primordial cause he is tartarus but they give him a body which is uncommon and what i want to see more of in media
tiny tundra
Though I suppose “primordial order” is a bit of an oxymoron.
Yeah, I was wondering if Hades would personify Tartarus before I got into it.
versed verge
Look I just want more none humanoid ideas taking on a humanoid figure lol
radiant estuary
Tartarus is basically it's own personification, depending on the myth
split vigil
There isn't that much know greco myth around chaos though right? It basically boils down to 'in the beginning there was chaos and they created some stuff then disappeared'
brazen lagoon
Chaos isn't really a major player in Greek mythology sadly
manic bobcat
Q: Where is the first baseball game in the Bible?
A: In the big inning. Eve stole first, Adam stole second. Cain struck out Abel. The Giants and the Angels were rained out.
versed verge
It's that chaos was the beginning that created themself that then created nyx and tartarus then with nyx and tartarus made oceanus and grea
red cave
🤔
craggy barn
hetero achilles 🤢
brazen lagoon
Straight people? In ancient Greece? No thanks
manic bobcat
Just Achilles and his cousin Patroclus.
calm laurel
"Imagine having a love life"
This post was made by the Lord Hades gang
brazen lagoon
Sappho and her friends
manic bobcat
Who is just happen to be so close to Achilles his death sends Achilles to a legendary rage.
brazen lagoon
Damn they must have been really close friends huh
manic bobcat
Yeah, they are gasp battle mates.
calm laurel
I'd imagine that the director might have have a heart attack looking at the Norsk family tree
brazen lagoon
They even slept in the same bed!
manic bobcat
Totally platonic though
calm laurel
looks at Heimdall
manic bobcat
You mean the guy who died at the hand of Thanos in an attempt to save the Incredible Hulk?
calm laurel
no, real mythos Heimdall
brazen lagoon
That's Tyr
manic bobcat
Ik I'm kd
versed verge
Thanos is in Norse mythology?
calm laurel
kek
brazen lagoon
Greek mythology > norse mythology anyways
narrow hemlock
calm laurel
ok
manic bobcat
Yes Mom
calm laurel
...
brazen lagoon
Yes Mother
plucky brook
deep pivot
Now I see why people started talking about Thanos there 
Random Hades topic starter: Does Artemis eat acorns?
manic bobcat
Considering her prowess, I think she would eat more than a single corn. A whole cob maybe?
deep pivot
Hm...... does she eat popcorn? 
brazen lagoon
Don't think popcorn existed back then
And corn today is a GMO which means it basically didn't exist back then
The only corn that existed was maize and that was in Mexico
So safe to say that artemis didn't eat popcorn
supple lodge
Artemis probably eats the people who anger her
after turning them into deer or something
Artemis mythology tldr: you piss her off, you die
drifting crest
Especially people who hit on her. Oops
supple lodge
one dude tried to creep on her and she turned him into a deer and he got torn apart by his own hunting dogs
brazen lagoon
Deserved tbh
deep pivot
Savage~
brazen lagoon
We stan a queen
supple lodge
meanwhile, her brother,
deep pivot
Would her brother be tanned?
supple lodge
Yes
deep pivot
supple lodge
it'd be funny if apollo's greater call was zag firing a big laser beam
brazen lagoon
Just a massive sun ray coming down
maiden belfry
Why is it a thing with speedruns that they die before the run starts?
manic bobcat
Orbital Strike
manic bobcat
Why is it a thing with speedruns that they die before the run starts?
So the run is unseeded.
Basically
maiden belfry
unseeded?
manic bobcat
You can set up your run to get good luck
maiden belfry
ah
manic bobcat
But dying before reset the RNG essentially
plucky brook
If you start a run and hit "give up", most of the early rooms/boons will be the exact same ^
manic bobcat
If you really want to, you can still get good RNG, just need to reset enough time
plucky brook
so therefore to show that the route hasn't been planned out etc ^
tiny tundra
Which do you guys prefer: Gods’ Pride or Gods’ Legacy?
manic bobcat
I use both equally often I think
Though I like Pride more because Duos are gimmicky
maiden belfry
oh one other thing
does pausing the game do something? noticed someone doing it as the rewards ont he doors were being shown
manic bobcat
Yup
There is an in game timer
Pausing stops that timer
Some speedruns use in game timer so they do that
Also for Tight Deadline heat
But for real time runs like 6 weapons, that doesn't matter obviously
maiden belfry
hm i guess with the amount they were doing it and constisncy, i thoguht it was liker
skipping something
manic bobcat
I mean speedrunners would go the distance to save a mili second. Pausing is simple so yeah.
It's also a habit eventually
manic bobcat
skipping something
There is a skip called Codex skip though. Basically you move a tiny bit everytime you open the codex if you have momentum. It also pauses the in game timer.
hollow mantle
did everyone else drop the controller and have to be cajoled to continue when it looked like you might have to fight Cerby, the Bested Boy Of The Underworld?
Or am I just weird?
manic bobcat
So you can theoretically finish the game in absurdly low time but in real time it would take literal hours.
tiny tundra
did everyone else drop the controller and have to be cajoled to continue when it...
I’d just bop him. Kapow.
No quarter.
manic bobcat
One way to find out 
manic bobcat
Yeah you tell Cerberus, Fluffy Bun
rapid forum
wait no
versed verge
does pausing the game do something? noticed someone doing it as the rewards ont ...
Pausing is also used in rng manipulation so like with seeded runs but never just them pausing alone, the have to like cast strike strike pause cast then select the room
tiny tundra
How does that affect RNG?
iron badge
uhhhh where's the option for turning off the "mouse locks onto an enemy while using fourth gun aspect"
because i don't like it snapping so hard even when using a mouse
craggy barn
go to controls
brazen lagoon
controls --> attack at cursor
iron badge
oh it's in CONTROLS???
short cloud
tho I know it's unlikely, and I hate to put more work on the shoulders of the ppl who made this game
I think hades dlc could have a lot of potential
errant shadow
Guys i just used a greater call on a trial and the achievement didnt unlock...
short cloud
new and different gods and boons, a pact where enemies regenerate health slowly, meeting more Greek mythological figures like Heracles
granite ether
did you use the greater call of the god you did not choose in the trial?
errant shadow
I think hades dlc could have a lot of potential
Will they do a dlc ?
granite ether
Will they do a dlc ?
tl:dr no idea, we won't know until supergiant announces something
short cloud
Will they do a dlc ?
prob not 😔 but It'd be pretty poggers
errant shadow
did you use the greater call of the god you did not choose in the trial?
Ahhhh i should use the greater call of a god i didnt choose vs him itself?
upbeat sable
yes
granite ether
yep, that's what the achievement is asking of you
upbeat sable
The achievement wants you to use the god against themselves
errant shadow
Why so pesimistic guys? Like i see the game still needs like a +1 stage tbh . 1 more boss is essential cuz it ends very fast once you go strong
brazen lagoon
well SG rarely does any dlc
errant shadow
The achievement wants you to use the god against themselves
Ok got it. I used another great call vs another god. Thanks guys
granite ether
personally I think the game is feature complete as is and doesn't really need any more content
errant shadow
Styx needs to be reworked or +1 stage between styx and elisiuym with other creatures.
My opinion tbh
Its a great game either way
brazen lagoon
i dont really care what they do tbh i'll play whatever they put out
errant shadow
You see Dead Cells putting many dlc's
granite ether
have you fought and/or defeated ||redacted|| as of yet?
glossy sierra
Great game! Thanks SG games!
errant shadow
have you fought and/or defeated ||redacted|| as of yet?
Didnt understand the sentence
upbeat sable
have you beaten ||the final boss||
brazen lagoon
have you won yet
errant shadow
have you beaten ||the final boss||
Yes like 20 + times
Going on 5 heat with each weapon rn
Just cleared 4 heat with each.
hexed shore
+5 heat extra floor Keepo
errant shadow
Yeap i did that too.
granite ether
redacted is what the final boss shows as in the admin chamber records if you die to them btw
unkempt sleet
And Hypnos calls him like that too
errant shadow
Ah i understand
What are your opinions of Hades vs Dead Cells guys? Not like this better than this but a more explained opinion.
Played both, DC seems a bit more difficult
Didnt finished both so i have not a full opinion
unkempt sleet
DC is a lot more random and the progression doesn't feel as fast
Also it feels to me like all increases in difficulty are way too much of a jump compared to the last one.
granite ether
I haven't played enough of dead cells to have an opinion of it
I've heard through friends that DC difficulty ramps hard with Boss Cells and is required for the 'true ending'
whereas Hades you can do runs at 0 heat forever and experience the main story that's being told all the same as if someone where to climb heat
unkempt sleet
Yeah to achieve the true ending you have to play DC at max difficulty
errant shadow
Yeap.
unkempt sleet
Which I haven't beat, but I'd say it's above the 32 heat threshold of Hades in terms of difficulty
granite ether
32 is the threshhold of which you get something out of heat (||a cosmetic statue||)
errant shadow
Its like too much time to go on the prefinal boss. And when he beats you, you have to play for like 50 minutes to go again and die fast.
errant shadow
32 is the threshhold of which you get something out of heat (||a cosmetic statue...
Noicee
granite ether
most people don't go above 20, but the challenge of high heat is there for those who want it
errant shadow
Tbh i mosly im interested in unlocking all achievements
granite ether
that's fair, highest heat required for that is 16
unkempt sleet
The achievements don't require much, just 16 heat and EM3
granite ether
ahh yeah EM3 too
errant shadow
Em3 is the time punishement?
unkempt sleet
No, it's the boss one
granite ether
nah, the boss variation one
unkempt sleet
So you have to beat empowered T&A
granite ether
EM1 changes the ||furies||, EM2 changes both the ||furies and hydra|| and so on up to EM4
errant shadow
Ah ok
What about the enter the gungeon ?Have u play it? I think top 3 rogues are hades , enter the gungeon and dead cells
unkempt sleet
I haven't played much gungeon but I don't like it
I don't know what it is, but the gameplay doesn't click for me
brazen lagoon
dont like it much either tbh
errant shadow
It is bullet hell aswell, thats why you dont like it maybe 
Etg have a thrilling atmosphere
unkempt sleet
Well I like Binding of Isaac, so it's not quite that
errant shadow
What do you suggest close to hades?
unkempt sleet
I think that the guns don't change how I play like a set of boons would
unkempt sleet
I don't know many roguelikes but I'd say Hades is very different from the other ones I've played. It plays a lot more like DOOM, in the sense that the best way to approach an encounter is to keep the pressure up nonstop. Can't think of a lot of roguelikes that do that.
unique garnet
idk if i can ask this question here , but
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETFo7GGWkAAMnYR.jpg
does anyone have similar sketch or picture of these skulls from the game?
proper rock
you could just take a screenshot of something similar and ask the tattoo artist to make something custom for you
if you got the money for it that is
stiff summit
I just noticed. The 2nd aspect of all the weapons are for the 6 siblings. They all wielded the weapons during the war with the titans. Now what seems weird to me is why they'd give the spear to Hades when Poseidon had its iconic Trident? And Hades seems like a more likely wielder of a sword.
craggy barn
something something greek mythology
brazen lagoon
something something spear= satan and satan=hell and hell=hades
craggy barn
i mean if hades was more likely a swordsman he probably wouldn't be using another spear
rapid forum
well according to the myth, a bident (two pronged resembling a pitchfork) is associated with Hades
fleet narwhal
poseidon using a sword isnt that far-fetched when you have hestia using a gun
gritty roost
howdy hades fam
craggy barn
demeter, the god of seasons literally punched a titan to death
rapid forum
poseidon using a sword isnt that far-fetched when you have hestia using a gun
thank you for bringing that up, I completely disregarded that
fleet narwhal
now what would hades be without his iconic pitchfork
supple lodge
Cerberus feels more iconic than his bifork hahaha
gritty roost
does the myth portray cerberus as a goodboi though? 
fleet narwhal
cerberus is not a goodboi in the myths but can absolutely be interpreted as a goodboi
supple lodge
As far as we know, Cerberus is just the equivalent of a big guard dog like a German shepherd or something
rapid forum
he's a goodboi in the myth, just so happen he ripped everyone that tried to escape to pieces
craggy barn
oh but he does his job pretty well so he's a verygoodboi :))
supple lodge
he's a goodboi in the myth, just so happen he ripped everyone that tried to esca...
Zagreus voice
"He likes to eat, can you blame him?"
loud lintel
Piercing Wave+Flurry Slash+Hermes Attack Speed boon is hilarious
got the Demeter Chill explosion buildup boon too
jolly laurel
i don't understand what i'm picking the boons for on the victory screen
stark onyx
i like how hades weapons ultimately boil down to " is this an athena dash weapon or a zeus attack weapon "
tender oxide
Or both
stark onyx
Achilles spear/Zag sword moment
supple lodge
every weapon is an athena dash weapon
athena dash goes with everything
it is the ultimate salad topping
craggy barn
except for bow and rail :))
no need for a deflecting dash if you can just destroy projectiles in a sufficiently large area or you know, dodge it considering you're already standing at a pretty good distance
craggy barn
if i'm using something like fists i'll just go for blade dash or something
maybe get divine strike just in case
tender oxide
I use Athena dash and Zeus attack with fists lol
craggy barn
divine strike is apparently really good with fists
definitely great for projectile enemies and you can just cheese tissy entirely
tender oxide
The thing with divine strike is if you punch projectiles most just get destroyed anyways and if I want to reflect big ones I can just dash into it. Overall zeus attack has higher dps
supple lodge
Me: trying to get sea storm build on rail
Ares: do you want beyblades :) i will give you beyblades
craggy barn
achilles + arty + ares duo 😳
maiden belfry
what was the aspect/boon/upgrade yall thought was garbage until you saw/found the build for it
loud lintel
literally every cast boon seemed like garbage when i was starting out
until i realized it actually did damage
waxen juniper
Chaos shield easily.
hushed python
I have the weirdest cast build right now, leveled up beam cast:
Boons:
5 beams @16dps * 1.1
waxen juniper
Beams with achilles is very strong
hushed python
Yes
waxen juniper
If a beam nornally does 10 damage, it's now doing 25 a hit with post-rush bonus
Achilles is just nutty
waxen juniper
The spear silly
craggy barn
If a beam nornally does 10 damage, it's now doing 25 a hit with post-rush bonus
achilles buffs your next attack right?
waxen juniper
Next 4 attacks and casts
craggy barn
4???
waxen juniper
Or... Use stygian soul and get bad news!
craggy barn
stygian soul has potential
waxen juniper
Oh it definitely has some uses
craggy barn
generally not a good idea for cast builds unless you actually get more casts
maiden belfry
i jsut need more blood so i can get more potential out of the aspects i dont like
zeus shield, posiedon sword
waxen juniper
Stygian soul is solid for slower casts: blade shot, trippy shot, and crystal beams are all great examples.
craggy barn
i've seen an insane laser lightshow build done with stygian soul
drifting crest
Yes
waxen juniper
You don't get burst, but it also means you don't need to wait for any of those casts to finish doing what they do.
drifting crest
craggy barn
quick reload + fully reloaded would be the goated setup for stygian soul
i've had it for that same amount of time and i've clocked 100+ hours of play
craggy barn
distant memory
sharp fossil
the one for the god whose cast you want
craggy barn
fleet acorn
i just in general usually use god 1 -> god 2 -> acorn -> acorn
maiden belfry
so does hermes saying "this god is running late" mean youre gonna run into them soon
craggy barn
if i'm not sure what keepsake to take i just take the ||blossom||
maiden belfry
craggy barn
i don't feel much need to take the acorn unless i'm in elysium
sharp fossil
so does hermes saying "this god is running late" mean youre gonna run into them ...
he says that when he replaces a room that would have been another god
maiden belfry
that rat
sharp fossil
because he fast
supple lodge
hermes sure likes to race the other gods
sharp fossil
he sometimes turns up before a god you forced with a keepsake
maiden belfry
god of speed
topaz imp
I just discovered that if you take "Premium Vintage" (+hp when pick up nectar, get 1 nectar now) from dionysus in a room where you have to choose between 2 boons and fight the other (idk if thoose have a special name), you dont get that free nectar. Is a strange interaction
topaz imp
But since after picking the boon, the combat against the other god starts rigth away, you dont get it, its strange
tender oxide
You still get it
craggy barn
you can just grab it after the fight
tender oxide
I’ve done that before and it drops next to you and then the other god starts attacking
topaz imp
Well, I'm right now on that room and dont have any nectar on my inventory
tender oxide
Strange
swift violet
Achiles is so good
Also why would you pick eris over achilles
The damage of achilles is way better and it doesnt go away instantly
swift violet
I mean main important things are cast, attack, and special right?
waxen juniper
So Eris can increase things like doom/hangover
swift violet
Tru
waxen juniper
Whereas, Achilles can not
waxen juniper
Doom/hangover aren't the best examples for speedrunning, but you get the idea
swift violet
For eris you literally need zeus attack
waxen juniper
Yes, the damage is strong
swift violet
I tried an eris run and didnt get zeus attack and barely cleared
waxen juniper
Sounds like ya weren't running it right.
Eris is very versatile. I ran a hangover build and it wrecks shop!
swift violet
I got really crappy boons
I was 12 minutes slower on that run than my first clear with zeus lighting
*lightning
waxen juniper
Dang
swift violet
I got 36 Igt on this run and 24 on my first one
i also didn't get rocket bomb on my special and only got cluster rocket
So that also sucked
sharp fossil
For eris you literally need zeus attack
this gives me an idea for a challenge run; attackless eris
i’ll do it right now
wait no
sleep
i’ll do it tomorrow
loud lintel
finally cleared a run with each weapon
now im allowing myself to tinker with aspects & heat
deep oasis
Is Heat required after you've cleared a run for the first time?
severe smelt
Got two duos into tartarus... why this luck now lol
tender basalt
@deep oasis increasing heat is only required if you wish to get more of the drops from each levels bosses. If you just want to do runs for the sake of it, you don’t need to increase the heat
gilded light
am i the only person that thinks Artemis dash (hunter dash) should be a pass and not fill up your dash slot
tender basalt
I do too, but that’s just how it be
gilded light
even with crit synergies that is just so much worse than the other sahes
tender basalt
If you’re rolling with fists it can be really good imo, but for ranged weapons it’s a waste I think
loud lintel
i like zeus/dio on fists
severe smelt
I just want the hunter dash to give me crits.
gilded light
zeus is good on fists
tender basalt
Poseidon on fists was wild lmao, I really underestimate his boons sometimes
severe smelt
I really loved putting Poseidon Special on hidden Aiges aspect with also the daedalus that makes it bounce more
it just auto-clears styx rooms in one shot
gilded light
a bombard?
severe smelt
what
gilded light
sorry im dumb
my brain said adament rail for some reason
its the dragon dash ting right?
severe smelt
rail with cluster bomb/rocket is nasty but i never get that combo lol
the hidden shield is a very heavy shield
gilded light
i dont like rail and bow
severe smelt
so the special is... also heavy
craggy barn
i am quite upset
gilded light
its good until you realoze that you cant deal damage very good
craggy barn
i was trying to go for a pb run but i got a 5 sack
severe smelt
what is?
gilded light
rip
severe smelt
i was trying to go for a pb run but i got a 5 sack
owwwwww
craggy barn
now i know how it feels
tender basalt
Whats your pb
severe smelt
I think styx depends on how much you prepared prior
gilded light
yeah
severe smelt
but my least favorite is really elysium
tender basalt
Primarily spammy but I’m interested to hear anyone’s
gilded light
lol
the sack rng
is so dumb honestly
you could be having a great run but then 5 sack and boom go reset
mint forum
More like patty pray
craggy barn
22 minutes when i could have gotten at least sub 19 
tender basalt
I respect anyone getting sub 20 and sub 15 with the ranged weapons
Because I can’t for the life of me make the bow sub 20 😂
severe smelt
I had a better time with Chiron starting out. 🙂
I've gotten attached to Power Shot, though.
craggy barn
just so happens i was using chiron
had concentrated volley and a good crit build
and then i didn't get the sack until the 5th tunnel
feelsbadman
waxen juniper
Sometimes ya get unlucky
rich acorn
||Dont steal from charon's shop, worst mistake of my life||
hallow spruce
Who do you all focus on when handing out gifts?
mint forum
Everyone
Or favorites
If I have things to spare everyone
If not favorites
Then to move plot
Or plot firdt if you want
severe smelt
Yaaaay I killed ||Minotaur 2.0||.
The ||chariot|| is... honestly not sure if it's actually worse than the ||original Theseus||, really. You can just chase after it and backstab.
red cave
i find it easier tbh
tender oxide
The ||chariot|| is... honestly not sure if it's actually worse than the ||origin...
Yeah the ||chariot|| is easier than regular ||Theseus||, it’s ||Asterius|| that’s the problem
severe smelt
Yeah, definitely.
red cave
don't have to worry about the lance , just have spatial awarenesss
severe smelt
First time he just killed me by himself as the mini-boss, the ground pound takes some getting used to.
Yeah, exactly.
severe smelt
I mainly went to max either Zag aspects first (cheapest) or the meta aspects.
tender oxide
how do you guys invest your TB?
You can buy the aspect, test it on skelly, and force close the game and you’ll get your titan blood back
Just don’t leave the room
loud lintel
i see ill give it a shot
swift violet
||Chariot|| is easier because you dont have to worry about the shield
Until you destroy it
tender basalt
Lmao I just max what I want
swift violet
Lmao I just max what I want
Same
I just unlock and max the ones that are fun to use
chrome sentinel
I want dlc...
maiden belfry
poseidon aspect active
rapid fire hermes 
crit cast artemis 
now if i can jsut
get exit wounds
is railgun good or am i just lucky every time i run it
tender basalt
It’s not my cup of tea, but I’ve had some fun with it
Anything can be good if you know what boons to work towards
loud lintel
i prefer poseidon cast over artemis cast in my cast builds tbh
the aoe damage is very good
spare ridge
nice pfp @tender basalt
tender basalt
Thank you thank you 😎
uneven canyon
I think I just finished Hades? Or this is the end of the beginning of a new storyline.
Orpheous has a great singing voice
lyric wharf
Is dash upper on fists consider dash strike ? Like if you have Artemis dash which increase dash strike damage, would dash upper counts ?
uneven canyon
yes
manic bobcat
Yes
lyric wharf
Nice thank you guys.
acoustic plank
Sometime's I forget the fist special works on dash and just pump special damage and ignore dash
Even though I literally spam the dash special
manic bobcat
It's really only Hunter Dash
winter harbor
That chaos boon too
swift violet
is railgun good or am i just lucky every time i run it
Yeah its pretty good
waxen juniper
Chaos boon has some significant dash strike damage
swift violet
Especially if you can get something like zues attack and for hammers get cluster rocket and rocket bomb
manic bobcat
You can't pom chaos boons
acoustic plank
Yeah but it can also be a huge damage increase, especiallg stacked with Artemis or Posiden or something. Aphro.
You can't pom it cause it already stacks
lyric wharf
Sometime's I forget the fist special works on dash and just pump special damage ...
Special also counts as dash ? I was talking about dash upper, it does use the same button as special but its during a dash.
acoustic plank
Nonono that's what I was talk about. I ignore dash strike (specifically chaos boons) when going for a mostly dash upper build.
waxen juniper
I really wanna do an undamaged build. As in I wanna take all the things that give you extra damage on undamaged Enemies
upbeat sable
Just got out of Tartarus in exactly 4:20.69 😎
tacit ember
sup
tacit ember
Just got out of Tartarus in exactly 4:20.69 😎
bruh nice
tacit ember
I really wanna do an undamaged build. As in I wanna take all the things that giv...
what is an undamage build?
tacit ember
ok?
waxen juniper
Also, blown kiss
tacit ember
what is that
blown kiss
what
is it a aphro boon or someting??
im confusion
i dont do undamage damage
waxen juniper
Yea, it is an upgrade for the aphro cast
waxen juniper
It has better range and deals 100% damage to undamaged enemies
upbeat sable
The problem is that you need to use Crush Shot
waxen juniper
Crush shots range isn't great, but it deals solid damage
silent finch
Weak is a good status too
tacit ember
but i dont see it being usefull
silent finch
30 percent damage reduction nothing to scoff at
tacit ember
week is great
silent finch
Along with others boons that reduce the damage you take
silent finch
Like Athena Demeter and aphro ones
tacit ember
Demeter?
waxen juniper
Sweet surrender is just an amazing boon
tacit ember
she no has dmg reduction
waxen juniper
Ravenous will
upbeat sable
Aphro's Attack/Special boons are good because they have damn good base damage
tacit ember
i like to use the stones recharce mirror thing
tender basalt
Ravenous will is great if you have her cast
waxen juniper
Ravenous will is insane! You are nuts for thinking its bad
That is at minimum 10% bonus damage to everything
upbeat sable
depends on how your cast setup looks like
Let's say you have the Arte legendary
and the +2 casts from mirror
that's 5 casts you gotta get rid of for that damage boost
waxen juniper
Then lets say you're using an Ares cast
That is 30% damage for all of your blade rifts
upbeat sable
Bro just get vicious cycle
waxen juniper
That damage gets increased as well
wraith quiver
theseus an minos are so hard bro
tacit ember
are casts like demeter and ares efected by buffs when they are alredy out?
severe smelt
I'm being trolled by an urn in the Furies battle zone that spawned in an unreachable area... 🤔
tacit ember
what about wiht achilles spear
waxen juniper
Yep!
tacit ember
huat
waxen juniper
Achilles spear is nuts
tacit ember
so like
if i send out like 6 casts
and use special
do all of them have it?
no? i dont think so right?
tacit ember
yes
yes thats what im saying
so like
it doesn't efect the ones that are alredy out
waxen juniper
Achilles specifically says the next 4 attacks/casts.
So the last 2 would not be affected by post rush damage
tacit ember
yes
waxen juniper
Because of how Achilles works, what you are suggesting will not work. However, they will get the bonus damage from ravenous will
tacit ember
yes i know how it works
but like why
i think
dmg is calculated
befor the attack goes out
so like
if ur cast does 100 dmg
and u have 20%+ dmg
u will have 120
waxen juniper
Only if the damage happens after you don't have any casts.
tacit ember
yes
waxen juniper
I do not know if it happens for the last cast you use
tacit ember
and isn't that what happend with demiter
dud thats literaly what im asking
if cast out
then +10% dmg
what happen
waxen juniper
So for demeter it will work because it will deal damage after the cast is released.
Now if you were to cast something like crush shot, I am not sure if that damage will be added
It might, but something like that requires experimentation
pseudo lark
Haven't tested but my instinct is that it will apply
Casts can't do their damage before the cast happens, and when the cast happens the cast counter goes to 0
waxen juniper
I think you are right since you technically release it before damage is applied
tacit ember
so no bonus damage right?
waxen juniper
If our theory is right, it will do bonus damage
tacit ember
i am so confused
but ok
i am 100% sure that achilles no do that
because its every time you attack
so like
would something like eris work?
if you resese you cast
and bomb ur self after u relese it
pseudo lark
Damage is evaluated based on the buffs you have when the attack lands
So if your bomb hits you before the cast lands, it would apply the buff
pseudo lark
The only notable exception that I can think of is Achilles Spear buff, which modifies the attack. So if you have Crystal Beam cast, and you cast while you have the Achilles buff, the entire duration of that cast will have +150% damage
tacit ember
yes
brisk trail
Guys varatha's last aspect is it worth getting? Idk if it's considered a spoiler that's why I'm asking this way
swift violet
With pierced butterfly its good
And the one where you charge up your special
Thats the only way its good
waxen juniper
Hidden Spear is good, but it is also punishing.
swift violet
Only good with charged skewer
waxen juniper
It's very powerful with charged skewer
swift violet
+pierced butterfly
waxen juniper
versed bluff
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/728031877314773074/799374396699181116/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676 wait what happens when i press A here and it lights up like that??? do i have to manually select my Boons AFTER i choose them from the god-icon mid run?
keen cypress
Hi Guys,
I was doing a run, I was on the ||Elysium|| boss already and suddenly the energy was out here at home, I lost the entire run. Is game saving not automatic chamber by chamber?
unkempt sleet
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/728031877314773074/799374396699181116/u...
That highlights them in the victory screen, the boons are on all the time.
unkempt sleet
Hi Guys,
I was doing a run, I was on the ||Elysium|| boss already and suddenly t...
there should be ways to get the backup saves is #h1-tech-fixes
manic bobcat
yeah there are ways to recover a save file due to energy outage
check #h1-tech-fixes or #h1-tech-support
fleet acorn
why not both??
dark scroll
f
lyric wharf
I tried every 2nd and 3rd aspects now along the spear hidden aspect, I'm gonna max Achilles spear.
waxen juniper
Definitely worth
lyric wharf
Its still my favorite spear so yeah.
About Hera bow, ammo drop time doesnt work with some cast like Trippy Shot right ?
lyric wharf
Definitely worth
Nice to know btw thank you for your opinion !
fleet acorn
_ _
runic agate
Im still waiting
waxen juniper
Holy cow! This "undamaged foes" build is nuts and I just started!
neon dove
Heyo everyone
earnest cosmos
On god I literally broke out 100 times before I realized the mirror of night had even more aspects you can strengthen
earnest cosmos
I felt dumb as hellll
brisk trail
Rank Olympian Gods in terms of basedness.
Ares > Athena > Artemis > Poseidon > Hermes > Zeus > Demeter > Aphrodite > Dionysus
lyric wharf
Holy cow! This "undamaged foes" build is nuts and I just started!
What weapon are you using ?
brisk trail
I’m pretty new to this game but I decided to try a 32 heat run for the hell of it and I got halfway through elysium. I thought it was supposed to be brutally difficult
What is the most optimum way to do a 32 heat run?
waxen juniper
That run went way better than I expected!
waxen juniper
Easy win! Hades took chunks of damage each crush shot hit!
It helps that chaos gave my casts 63% damage
mint forum
Nicee
waxen juniper
But it did end up just being a solid cast build :p
waxen juniper
I'm gonna try it again and hope I actually get blown kiss this time
And it does big damage!
waxen juniper
The only downside of that run is Aphro ate up all my rolls in the first room 😆
waxen juniper
But right now, crush shot is doing 247 damage from fiery presence alone
waxen juniper
Got a common blown kiss. I'll take it though!
mint forum
Nicee
mint forum
Based Ness?
lyric wharf
I'm really satisfied with maxed Achilles spear, almost 2x damage after Raging Rush.
I'm doing an HL5 and TD3 run with it right now and everything going alright for now, I just reached Elysium.
@waxen juniper Btw what about boss battles with undamaged foes build, do you still have good source of damage ?
frozen idol
Anybody having issues with Dashing Flight? It works about 85% of the time for me, but when it doesn't fire I can't attack for a brief duration.
waxen juniper
<@178716199989936128> Btw what about boss battles with undamaged foes build, do ...
Easy: crush shot does good damage.
Also, exit wounds helps
Plus, I had chill on my special so Priveleged Status was easy to get
lyric wharf
I failed my HL5 and TD3 run because I fell on gigantic vermin boss in the styx which made me lose time, I was out of time against ||Hades|| and I had stubborn defiance on because I needed it to do a prophecy and I was about to do a regular run but then I forgot about it and went to do heat run, I'm going back right now but I'll still keep stubborn defiance.
lyric wharf
Easy: crush shot does good damage.
I see.
waxen juniper
Still can't get blown kiss for the life of me -_-
I sadly took a chaos boon that killed me the 2nd run, so that didn't go well. But the 3rd run only had a common crush shot boon with no damage increase. So that one was just alright
Exit wounds did most of the work that run
lyric wharf
What heat settings are you running with ?
waxen juniper
EM 2, HL 5, BP2 and TD 1
lyric wharf
On top of running out of time on my previous run, while rushing to buy a boon at the Styx shop I accidentally bought the anvil and got upgrades I'm not really into so that didn't help as well.
I see.
waxen juniper
I died at Lernie at the 2nd fight. The chaos boon would give me 67% cast damage... but it also made me lose 3 health everytime I cast.
So... as you might imagine, I didn't last long after taking that xp
lyric wharf
Lol yeah sometimes I forget and also get hurt from chaos boon, btw you're aware that you dont get the chaos boon bonus until the curse is removed right ?
waxen juniper
Yea I know. Otherwise I probably woulda beat lernie :p
winter harbor
Chaos can't directly kill you, it'll only take yuo down to 1 hp
waxen juniper
Yea, but 1 hp is sadly a bit too low for that fight
I tried: it did not pan out well. Plus, my other damage dealers were garbage
lyric wharf
you might get cursed slash
Cursed slash is amazing tho.
lyric wharf
I was with spear on that run but I wasn't going to buy the anvil, I was rushing because out of time and I accidentally bought it.
lyric wharf
I died at Lernie at the 2nd fight. The chaos boon would give me 67% cast damage....
I usually dont do something that would hurt me from a Chaos curse but it happens that I forget for a bit sometimes and eventually do it once or twice.
waxen juniper
Yea... but 67% cast damage!!
brisk trail
hey does anyone know if i can easily change languages in my save file rn without like starting over or anything? (my game isn't on rn or i'd check myself but) or would i have to pick it from the outset
topaz yew
idk if its a loop hole or not
but the Attack thing where everytime you attacks you lose a set amount of health but gain the like percentage of loot
if you press Q it doesnt hurt you at all
does that not count as an attack
winter harbor
it's referring specifically to attack, not to special or other ways you deal damage
not a loophole, intended
topaz yew
OH thanks the lord
rich acorn
but the Attack thing where everytime you attacks you lose a set amount of health...
Legend for taking that on though
plucky brook
frozen pilot
would anyone happen to know if the vinyl will ever be restocked? i got the transistor one but not hades because i was a bit low on funds, but i now can and checked- only to see its sold out 😔
lyric wharf
Yea... but 67% cast damage!!
Yes but you dont get the Chaos boon bonus until the curse is removed.
waxen juniper
I know. Pretty sure we went through this already
shadow fiber
I beat the game for the first time. What heat should I do to get bounties again
lost pagoda
The dialogue popping up for the fourth aspects is fully random, right? (after conditions are met)
topaz yew
||I went the one where the enemy doesnt take the first attack tis the easiest||
Also thats a spoiler
plucky brook
I beat the game for the first time. What heat should I do to get bounties again
congrats 
from here you can either get clears on your other weapons,
or if you want some heat suggestions
||tight deadline 1 is 36 mins
damage control is good if you are using a fast firing weapon (fists/rail)
conveniance fee
middle management is a little spooky but doable
benefits package 1, but avoid 2 as it makes some super spooky combos||
topaz yew
OH actually now that im in the hall
i see something called ||Erebus for 5 gems what is that exactly||
plucky brook
||it's a mini challenge where if you go hitless for the room, you'll get whatever reward is listed on the portal/door||
||it requires 5 heat to be accessible though||
waxen juniper
For the tartarus gate.
It needs 10 for asphodel and 15 for Elysium
winter harbor
And the ||rewards are better, such as 2x health, 2x level, and increased rarity of boons||
plucky brook
oh it does scale? didn't know
waxen juniper
Beat me to it dysphere.
topaz yew
so question in personal opinion is it better to have fated authority or fated Persuasion
waxen juniper
Persuasion
plucky brook
^
topaz yew
ok i gotta earn that now lol
winter harbor
Persuasion
waxen juniper
Even if you wanted to roll a specific god, that's quite the lucky roll if you do
winter harbor
And even if you get them there's no guarantee you get the boons that you want
thorn sun
IF chaos were to eat from multiple heads would the taste of the theoretical (different) food be perceived separately or as one? discuss. my friends wont get off my back about this question
plucky brook
rerolling to hit duo boons however 
waxen juniper
The dream!
Or legendaries of course
Now just hope it happens in 1 roll instead of 2+
topaz yew
okay also ||For the weapons when you pick their special ability (Aspect) how do you aquire the 4th one?||
plucky brook
the worst feeling is having to reroll the opening boon
i sometimes just give up and change weapon lmao
waxen juniper
In very specific builds fated authority is better.
Sweet Nectar and Hoarding Slash builds are great for Fated Authority
plucky brook
okay also ||For the weapons when you pick their special ability (Aspect) how do ...
pinned messages of #h1-story-discussion
waxen juniper
Sweet Nectar doesn't need it, but you can get some crazy upgraded equipment.
plucky brook
also obligatory,
hidden sword best sword
waxen juniper
I know Haelian's got Lvl. 50 items
winter harbor
I actually like poseidon sword
that passive cast bonus is good, plus you don't have to wait for casts
lone kernel
lol ive been hearing about hidden sword but what does it do exactly?
50 bonus health to start, and it hits like a truck base damage is 60/80/100 on the base attack three hit combo
hushed schooner
plus exit wounds
topaz yew
oh wow
lone kernel
Was my weapon of choice for my first 20 heat and em4 victories
plucky brook
plus the special's area ||disables all traps & lava||
lean wadi
i have completed 4 escapes
winter harbor
||special creates an aura that slows projectiles, reduces damage, and disables traps||
lone kernel
That with epic Aphrodite attack is pretty much enough to win by itself on lower heat
hushed schooner
didnt realise it did that
plucky brook
oh yeah also forgot to mention ||40% damage reduction inside the field||
hushed schooner
|| hs + arthur tactics???||
plucky brook
That with epic Aphrodite attack is pretty much enough to win by itself on lower ...
I prefer going arte attack with aphro special/cast for heart rend
haven't tested noncrit builds 
lone kernel
I prefer going arte attack with aphro special/cast for heart rend
That also works quite well
winter harbor
literally how I cheesed the HS fate listing
That never occurred to me when I did that prophecy o.O
I did mine with fists and hoping I was good enough to avoid them and hoping for sure footing
plucky brook
I attempted ||32 heat|| with ||arthur|| last night, got to elysium before making a mistake with SD not realizing the room I was in had no explosive plants :c
winter harbor
The winning run ended up not having sure footing but I had aphro's legendary with aphro on attack
plucky brook
it'll probably be the weapon I use to actually get the challenge done, just gonna take a few attempts
in the mean time just gonna keep slowly raising ||heat|| for practice
hushed schooner
cool
swift violet
Holy crap I just invested 5 titan blood into the spear and when I talked to achilles ||he gave me the words for guan yu first try||
plucky brook
acoustic plank
My last run I had Artemis call, the bar starting at 25%, the bar increasing by 1% every second (or something) and increased bar fill when I take damage. Plus I had pommed it twice.
With the hidden aspect for Rail.
Artemis is so good when you can just sit and shoot
swift violet
With support fire?
acoustic plank
I didn't roll support fire unfortunately, but that would have been good
plucky brook
I don't like arte's call, waiting for greater is so lame
I'd rather take dio/zeus and spam
acoustic plank
I wasn't waiting for greater. I got greater call in 5 seconds.
tender oxide
Lmao
plucky brook
Yeah that's fine, just talking in general
acoustic plank
It started as a meme build but was actually good
lyric wharf
I know. Pretty sure we went through this already
Oh alright sorry, the way you said it sounded like you might not know.
lone kernel
I find Artemis call meh in regular rooms and amazing v bosses
lyric wharf
HL5/TD3 run finally cleared, took 3 tries with Stubborn Defiance, I was trying to get the mirror prophecy but it also added some challenge, I'll probably go back to Death Defiance for now tho.
brisk trail
i like poseidon's one the most
plucky brook
Twin Fist are the best hands down
hands down
lyric wharf
There's no best weapons, the best weapon is your favorite.
lean wadi
aspect of talos is pretty fun
plucky brook
fists are kinda neat because pretty much every aspect is popular
brisk trail
how do i get my roles?
topaz yew
oh yeah
plucky brook
with some weapons you see a trend occur, but fists have a decent mix
#bot-commands @brisk trail
topaz yew
But if you want a good fist run
prisma wind
how do i get my roles?
#bot-commands
topaz yew
BY FAR
lean wadi
i like pairing aspect of talos with posion's attack
brisk trail
aight
plucky brook
I like demeter fists the most
topaz yew
Yup
if you get her on your left click with her 10 stack explosive proc
Its so damn good
and i got the doom special with the launch fist
freaking nothing survived
i just wish i got Dion's right click
plucky brook
I meant the aspect, not the god
topaz yew
Oh
lean wadi
i got the funny crit special on my most recent run
brisk trail
what's ze/hir/zir????
plucky brook
probably pronouns someone prefers to go by
prisma wind
Please keep in mind the first rule of the server, which means fostering a welcoming and inclusive community — especially where personal identity is concerned 
brisk trail
all good
waxen juniper
Oh alright sorry, the way you said it sounded like you might not know.
All good. 67% of 200 base damage was just a big deal. I had to take the risk. Sadly it did not pay off
lone kernel
what's ze/hir/zir????
Pronouns for people that don’t identify with a specific gender, such as chaos. Can be swapped out interchangeably with they them pronouns.
brisk trail
Is there a way to reset God mode dmg reduction %?
narrow hemlock
there is not
brisk trail
Ok but I don't understand why people don't identify with one of the both genders
Chaos is a mythological entity not a regular human
narrow hemlock
as someone who exclusively identifies as they/them, you do not need to be a mythological entity to feel comfortable with alternate pronouns. just respect when someone does
granite ether
One sec I have a link for you
brisk trail
Umm
brisk trail
I'm gonna be honest, I ain't gonna read that
acoustic plank
Technically Chaos is an entity but I appreciate the sentiment. I'm NB myself
brisk trail
I just wanted to know from some of you how do you end up with that decision, just curious
brazen lagoon
sorry to disrupt but this aint really the place for this
brisk trail
Ye, you re right
acoustic plank
We can move to #off-topic-discussion or DMs if you like
brazen lagoon
||does FO affect trap speed?||
prisma wind
||does FO affect trap speed?||
I don't believe so, but can't say I've paid close enough attention
novel wasp
dull niche
lavish meteor
