#h1-discussion

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alpine fulcrum
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course crystal clarity is kinda win button anyway

brave dove
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crystal clarity?

brisk trail
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meme beam

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arty/||demeter|| duo

brave dove
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oh

rapid forum
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oooooh boi

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FO2 EM4 was a nightmare

runic agate
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I wanna try EM4 one day then get my but whooped

molten nymph
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...remind me how to fight alecto's balls if you're using melee

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you just don't right?

real edge
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run

pliant sparrow
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Kill her faster?

brisk trail
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pray

molten nymph
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...yeah that's how i used to do it but i can't outdps her anymore

pliant sparrow
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Kite around

brisk trail
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channel your inner touhou player

rustic valve
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Athena attack, turn them against her

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Very effective with the fists, for example

pliant sparrow
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i dont think athena works with the blades

brisk trail
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yeah but what if I don't waaaaant athena attack

rustic valve
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Ohhh, blades, not balls

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Misunderstood, my b

brisk trail
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y can't u deflect the sqwblades it makes me upset

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or like. do anything about them

pliant sparrow
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the normal projectiles are kinda the same across the game so idk why alecto would be special

rustic valve
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She spams a ton of them

brisk trail
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maybe shed be too easy otherwise

pliant sparrow
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tisiphone is worse

brisk trail
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tisiphone dies in <30 seconds every time

rustic valve
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Like the witches, but all around

pliant sparrow
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meg spams them too

molten nymph
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eh, i find tisiphone to be the easiest

brisk trail
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I still have no idea what I'm doing vs alecto

molten nymph
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....though admittedly i can't remember her projectile pattern

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meg you need to dash to behind her

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alecto is ???

brisk trail
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she fires lots of projectiles in waves

molten nymph
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i think i need to get away

pliant sparrow
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all she has is a dash, mini aoe attack, projectiles in waves

brisk trail
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that u have to dodge through

pliant sparrow
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kinda like a better meg ig

molten nymph
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oh right waves

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yeah

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she usually just dies so fast

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especially if you have athena dash

brisk trail
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a meg that only has 2 invuln phases and doesn't summon stuff

molten nymph
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and just slap her projectile back

rapid forum
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oh yea

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sneaky on FO2 is also a nightmare

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and I fought 3 of them in EM4

brisk trail
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ugh

molten nymph
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urgh

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i

brisk trail
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wringers are scary as hell with Any speed bonus

molten nymph
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always pop my summon on ||dad||'s summon pahse

brisk trail
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||I like nuking him after he goes invulnerable in phase 2||

rapid forum
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those sneaky easily cut my health from 320 to 70

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:DDDD

warped atlas
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certain boons require you to have another boon before being able to find them, if i have a prerequisite boon but then sell it am i still able to find those boons that require it?

rapid forum
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nope

warped atlas
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alright, makes sense, thank you

waxen juniper
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What's a good athena-centric build?

brisk trail
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you can sell it after though

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what aspect

waxen juniper
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For now, I'm thinking any non-hidden shield aspect.

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I just revealed the hidden aspect, but I don't have the titan blood for it yet

brisk trail
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hmm

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well deflect special doesn't work like you'd want on zeus aspect

sweet basin
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They say a picture speaks a thousand words, you may also say the same about this comparison between Hades dev and Naughty Dog's Neil Druckman.

#TheLastOfUs
#TLOU2
#Hades

โ€”

๐ŸŽ Supporting the channel

โ–ถ Play video
waxen juniper
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I almost had a pretty solid zag shield athena run, but the damage was trash.

sweet basin
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Last of Us II dev needs to chill

brisk trail
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wong chanel?

calm laurel
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that's the problem: they won't

sweet basin
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all these Twitter personalities talking garbage about Hades just because it's on track to win the game awards.

brisk trail
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this dudes channel reeks

calm laurel
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you'd think it'd be the opposite but ig they're allergic to quality

sweet basin
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fr

calm laurel
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wait...

waxen juniper
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There wasn't a very good way to scale damage with the athena run I did. At least as far as I can tell.

last wing
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what all should i focus on in the mirror

sweet basin
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I agree the clickbaity thumbnails and titles are trash but he roles out news I sometimes care about

brisk trail
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which skills do you have unlocked rn burg

last wing
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can i post pic here?

waxen juniper
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Sadly no

brisk trail
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which is the lowest on the list that u have

waxen juniper
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Also, can I please have some help answering my previous question? I fear it's about to be lost in the convo

brisk trail
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because the most impactful mirror skills imo (at least early) are death defiance and greater reflex

calm laurel
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we moved on quick lol

brisk trail
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Athena is a defense oriented god so she's not gonna have crazy dmg

last wing
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i have 2 death defiance and max dash then 10% boiling blood

waxen juniper
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What is good synergy with athena +shield?

brisk trail
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merciful end prob

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that's ares+athena

alpine yarrow
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i like athena attack/dash and ares special with merciful end

waxen juniper
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Is that the boon that lets deflect deal doom damage

alpine yarrow
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yeah

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things that deflect insta activate doom

waxen juniper
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Any others? I had a solid doom run and I wanna try and do something different. I definitely will keep this in mind though

alpine yarrow
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so pretty good for special then bull rushing in and using ur attack

brisk trail
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charged shot is fun on chaos aspect

waxen juniper
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What's charge shot?

brisk trail
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charged shot is my favorite shield hammer

alpine yarrow
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me too haha

brisk trail
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turns bull rush into a piercing laser beam

alpine yarrow
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turns bull rush into a bullet

brisk trail
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with 80 base dmg

waxen juniper
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Oh, that one

brisk trail
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its so good

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love it on hidden shield

alpine yarrow
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the artemis + athena duo gives +20% crit chance after deflecting

waxen juniper
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That actually sounds really good with attack deflect

alpine yarrow
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which is rlly good with athena dash artemis attack

brisk trail
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arty attack charged shot ๐Ÿฅด

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I also like it w aphro attack

alpine yarrow
waxen juniper
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Sounds like you just like charged shot in general ๐Ÿ˜†

brisk trail
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I was really sleeping on aphros stuff

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I do

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I've also taking a liking to demeter attack lately

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really really like it on spear

alpine yarrow
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aphro attack and ares special with charge shot and curse of longing is one of my fav builds

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i like the demeter attack on fists the most because it stacks so fast and the slow is nice for being so close

waxen juniper
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Ooo, speaking of. What are good aspects to use for Aphro+Demeter duo? It's a strange one, but I can see it's potential

alpine yarrow
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honestly not sure i dont find myself using too much

brisk trail
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I just had a run with it w Poseidon sword it was fun

waxen juniper
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I had a crazy hidden spear build with crystal beam. But as soon as I took the duo, it all went down the drain ๐Ÿ˜ซ

brisk trail
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I had like 3-4 lasers all firing at me constantly

rapid forum
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cold embrace is better than crystal clarity imo

brisk trail
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upset that I didn't get parting shot

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bc I had a +173% backstab boon from chaos

waxen juniper
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Would you say cold embrace is better with the close up weapons?

brisk trail
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idk I've only used it once

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it was the last duo boon I needed for the prophecy

waxen juniper
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Oh nice! I still got a ways to go I think

rapid forum
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I mean, most weapons for cast builds are close up weapons

waxen juniper
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Hidden spear I would not consider to be a close up weapon like that

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How does aspect of Hera work with crystal beam? That seems like a weird combination

rapid forum
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I did say most >:D

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Achilles, Poseidon, and Talos are pretty good with Cold embrace

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tho achilles takes the cake

brisk trail
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it does not work with hera

waxen juniper
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Which one is Talos again?

brisk trail
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Dem cast on that is aoe that inflicts chill

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yoink fists

waxen juniper
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So the magnetic cutter one. Got ya

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Oh... That actually sounds incredibly good with cold embrace

rapid forum
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it is

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it definitely is

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tho I prefer Curse of drowning for talos

waxen juniper
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Remind me what that one is

wanton oar
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Does the doge chance from the fists stacks with the lambent plume ?

brisk trail
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yeah

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curse of drowning is ares/poseidon duo

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ur cast is a pulse that damages stuff around u

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personally not a fan

waxen juniper
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Ohh, that one. I haven't gotten it yet, but I have seen Haelian play with it

rapid forum
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curse of drowning and sea storm

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gud damage

waxen juniper
brisk trail
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she has the highest % dmg increase on attack/special

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and 30% damage reduction can be a run saver

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Oh yeah, I never took aphro before joining this server and seeing the light

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I used to think she was the worst god

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and she's got crazy duos

waxen juniper
brisk trail
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Poseidon

waxen juniper
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Poseidon has some bangers too, so that actually says a lot about the quality of the gods as a whole.

brisk trail
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every god has at least something going for them

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exclusive access and mirage shot are stupid good

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Oh yeah, he's just the one I'm least thrilled to see

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Unless I'm specifically looking for him

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for me that would be ares

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I will always welcome Funny Uncle into my run

waxen juniper
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I don't think I have preferences yet. I am at the stage where I just like to mess around and try different things.

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Ares was God Tier in my Zeus aspect run!

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Doom doom and more doom ๐Ÿ˜†

brisk trail
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I usually play heavy hitting aspects so ares doesn't help much

waxen juniper
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That's fair

brisk trail
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ill eat a sock before I take doom attack on hidden sword lol

warped iron
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๐Ÿ˜ฉ

waxen juniper
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Yea... don't do that to yourself misty

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Doom has its place: hidden sword is definitely not the place.

brisk trail
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I think its crazy how good hidden sword is without boons

rapid forum
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alright boys

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I have an idea

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Achilles + Aphro cast

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this sounds terrible

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and I'm gonna do it

brisk trail
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aphro cast goes hard

waxen juniper
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Oh... Ngl, that sounds like it has potential

brisk trail
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what other cast gets 2.6k crits

rapid forum
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arty

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kek

brisk trail
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never seen that

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I believe it tho

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I did achilles aphro, it was nice

waxen juniper
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It sounds quite powerful.

brisk trail
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ngl I did miscalculate my range a buncha times and whiffed my cast tho lmao

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Well, both Phalanx Shot and Trippy Shot hit harder than Crush Shot, sooo...

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not as fast

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u can spam the hell out of crush shot

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True.

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I wanna see heroic flurry cast crush shot

waxen juniper
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Ooo, speaking of. What is everyone's thoughts on phalanx shot? I think that's the cast I take the least right now.

brisk trail
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I lose it all the time

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not a fan

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like I shoot it and have no clue where it ends up

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I think it's nice for a safe opening

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if not for that I'd really like it

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It's perfectly fine, it's just not super sexy.

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Lightning Phalanx is cool, but it still moves a little slow on its own.

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it's the cast that always ends up across the entire map for me

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gets stuck in weird places

waxen juniper
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Do you have aim assist active?

brisk trail
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nope

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no issue with any other cast

waxen juniper
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tbh, that sounds like a bug.

brisk trail
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its just the nature of phalanx shot having tons of range

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when other casts have a cutoff point

waxen juniper
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Ohhh, yea that can be an issue without aim assist. One bad angle can ruin it

brisk trail
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I mean it has some homing to it

waxen juniper
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So how's it screwing you over like it is then? I think I am confused

rapid forum
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ngl

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I hate the run ald

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lmao

waxen juniper
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It just started. Got to get comfortable with it first

brisk trail
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it's got too much range, so it ends up in weird corners of the room

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this is especially apparent in the hydra fight

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so if I miss a shot I have to go on a scavenger hunt for my bloodstone

waxen juniper
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Ohhh, that can definitely be a problem.

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Also, do you have Extreme measures on for that fight?

brisk trail
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not usually

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I'd imagine it's somewhat better

waxen juniper
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I tried having it on for the first fight. Trust me, that didn't last very long ๐Ÿ˜†

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Ooo, that'd be cool if Phalanx shot had an upgrade that increases its radius.

carmine ravine
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hydra and theseus are actually easier with em

waxen juniper
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I dunno. Hydra is easy as is.

carmine ravine
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its smaler so easier to do aoe on the heads in short time,

waxen juniper
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Ah, I see what you are saying

brisk trail
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I def take way more damage

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but it is faster

carmine ravine
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adn thesues dont annoy you with his spears so easier to cheese the bull

brisk trail
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I'd only take em3 if I had to

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I much prefer the regular fight, way easier to nuke them both when they reach phase 2

carmine ravine
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it is easier since they both are pretty slow and tend to initiate the shockwave atk, but a little harder to approach theseus unless with stuff like rail special

rustic valve
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unless the bull gets the idea of "spin to win" in EM3

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which is hella annoying^^

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but otherwise I agree that EM3 might also be a tad faster/easier

brisk trail
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||beyblade of death||

carmine ravine
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havent died to it yet

brisk trail
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my strat for regular is

  • get asterius to phase 2 while ignoring theseus
  • get theseus to phase 2 while ignoring asterius (who is most likely jump attacking on top of me)
  • summon ||than||
  • win
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heroes is the fight i look forward to the least when pushing heat

waxen juniper
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I feel heroes is always the deciding factor on whether or not I have a decent run.
If I don't, they are very quick to tell me.

brisk trail
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elysium is always the longest part of my runs

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tartarus and asphodel are like 4 and 3 minutes while elysium is 5-6

brave dove
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.<

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twin shot and chain shot is just...

brisk trail
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if elysium is a slog I go into crisis mode in styx

brave dove
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with bow 4

brisk trail
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like we gotta get some upgrades

brave dove
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good bye crowds lol

brisk trail
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that's my inner sinvicta talking

brave dove
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same if im at styx and i have like no good boons i just decide im gonna lose unless i get good boons

brisk trail
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5 sack is a real spirit killer

brave dove
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yup

waxen juniper
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5 sack just means more stuff

brisk trail
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anyways I can usually win regardless, unless if I'm using zag spear in which case I will lose

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5 sack means doing 2 non boss rooms which take years

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going into styx at 9 minutes then getting a 5 sack took a piece of my soul

modest lantern
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Imagine dying on hades

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Could be me
Help

brave dove
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spoiler btw

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and also wut weapon are u using

brisk trail
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learn dash timing

modest lantern
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Yeah, I just need to get generally.. better at the game

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I've mastered all popular roguelikes so

brisk trail
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not trying to say git gud or anything it's just that timing your dash is essential in that fight

waxen juniper
modest lantern
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No, I most definitely have to 'git gud'

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If I could actually keep my 3 death defiances

brisk trail
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getting better at fighting The Boys will help you in the long run

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kill asterius first

brave dove
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where are u losing all your DDs?

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also learn when bosses begin their impervious time

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so u dont waste a call on them when their just before an impervious time

modest lantern
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Usually one on the fight with asterius and Theseus and sometimes one on the final floor with all the poison.

brave dove
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oof yeah poison SUX

brisk trail
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u can cure poison at the glowing sinks

brave dove
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get used to dashing behind enemies and backstabbing them

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so u can repeat the same on thesus

brisk trail
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are you taking acorn? that can help you with the bossfights

brave dove
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just imagine him as a shield guy

modest lantern
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I know Theseus walks away when he throws his spear

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So, that's the best time to hit him

brave dove
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yup

brisk trail
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ye, after he spin attacks too

brave dove
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basically free hits

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which weapon are u using?

modest lantern
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Usually the spear

brave dove
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if u get hammer enchants or chaos boons that increase backstab dmg get them too

waxen juniper
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Also, kill Asterius first. I know misty said that already, but it's crucial in the beginning.

brave dove
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oof i dont use the spear much

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ye thesus second phase sux when asterius is around

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gotta avoid the god call aoe from thesus

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thesus' spin

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and asterius

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at the same time

modest lantern
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I can easily kill asterius but Theseus just

brave dove
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so ye get asterius

waxen juniper
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All comes down to dashing at the right time really

brave dove
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if u come across hermes

brisk trail
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I've honestly completely forgotten what theseus phase 2 looks like LOL

brave dove
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try getting hyper sprint

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hyper sprint allows u to dash away from him incase his doing spin or so

brisk trail
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lategame privilege

brave dove
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if ur unable to dodge those

brisk trail
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if he speen just dash

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you'll see a circle around him beforehand

brave dove
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it also helps u get out of the AOE god calls he does during phase 2

brisk trail
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empty dashes have i-frames

brave dove
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unless its artermis god call then u just hug the sides

modest lantern
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I want to complete some achievements but I am missing the bottom Artemis boon

brisk trail
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what's it called

modest lantern
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Lemme check

brave dove
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try out fated persuasion instead of authority

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it can re roll boons

modest lantern
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Exit wounds

brisk trail
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tip for spear is that you can dash out of spin attack

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If you've got multiple dashes from hermes and divine dash from athena, that helps a lot. If you're a bit late dashing through the spin attack, it basically saves you

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gives it way more range

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Also- dodge chance.

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athena dash numbawan

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cultured avi

modest lantern
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Okay, this may make me a noob but I don't have the 30 key upgrades yet

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Hell, that's probably why I'm loosing

brisk trail
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i see you are bad little boy

brave dove
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nah das fine

brisk trail
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nah those take a while

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they aren't too impactful imo

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at least at the very start w them

brave dove
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i beat final boss multiple times so far and still havent maxed the mirror

brisk trail
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what are you using on the mirror?

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I'm 2 fated authority levels from completely maxing the mirror

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it's gonna feel so good

brave dove
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get fated persuasion

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yknow the thing beside the name of the things

modest lantern
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2, 3, 9 and 10 are green

brave dove
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if u click it it swaps it to another side

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aight

brisk trail
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I havent maxed out all of the mirror yet either and I'm on about eighteen clears

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I usually run bottom 4 green

waxen juniper
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I'm on my 52nd run and I finally unlocked the rest of the mirror on run 50

brisk trail
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I dont have many green, and it took me ages to unlock everything on the mirror

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i cannot remember mirror order for the life at me but it's usually all purple except bottom 4

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chtonic vitality / dark regen is more preference

modest lantern
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I'm just upgrading the stuff I use for now

brisk trail
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but if you haven't cleared yet dark regen should be better imo

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DD is better if you're struggling with bosses, SD is better if you're struggling w encounters

brave dove
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wut SD do again

brisk trail
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one rez per room

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Not recommended at low heat

brave dove
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rez?

brisk trail
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resurrect

brave dove
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oh

brisk trail
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heals to 30%

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only way to heal on LC4 besides draining cutter lol

brave dove
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so like 1 DD that replenishs every room and only heals 30%

brisk trail
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ye

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its like

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afterparty

brave dove
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i got my sword up to 9 heat so im rn just farming blood on other weapons

modest lantern
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I'm assuming the heat mechanic is unlocked after killing hades?

brisk trail
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love when dark thirst goes to sord bc I can actually use the dark thirst

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yeah

brave dove
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yup

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||CRAP I STILL HAVE POM BLOSSOM AND NOT ACORN AND IM IN STYX||

brisk trail
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god bless

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you can do it

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you're a gamer

brave dove
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i still have 3 DD but the acorn helps me tank so much dmg

real edge
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flash back to when i didnt realise you could change keepsakes during a run

brave dove
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well i dont think u could until u renovate

brisk trail
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tbf it's an unlock

real edge
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it was after my 7th clear

brisk trail
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bruh

real edge
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theres no excuse LOL

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besides my being dumb

brave dove
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for me i didnt know there was a green side on the mirror still my 8th clear

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i was like "what does this button do?"

modest lantern
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You unlock that too

brave dove
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cue to " WAIT THERES A DIFFERENT SIDE?"

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i skip loads of dialogue so yeah

brisk trail
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smh

real edge
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why you skip dialogue?

brisk trail
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bro

sharp fossil
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yeah nyx actually tells you when you unlock it lol

brisk trail
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I could never bring myself to do that even with how fast I play

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heresy

real edge
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I just forget what i buy lol

sharp fossil
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donโ€™t get me wrong tho; youโ€™re definitely not the first to not realise it straight away

brave dove
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so far bow 4 is like

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it can be amazing and can be horrible

brisk trail
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I think its amazing like all the time

real edge
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i prefer bow 2

brave dove
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bow 2 is pretty good too

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get relentless volley on it and viola

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melt enemies

real edge
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I love bow2

real edge
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its good tier lists are opinionated lol

brave dove
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shouldnt eris be higher up

real edge
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all about preference

brisk trail
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it's just a list of how much I like each aspect

brave dove
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ohhh

brisk trail
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could prob move gy down a tier or two

brave dove
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wuts the 2 fists aspects in A

brisk trail
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Hestia is def in A tier after I've used it a few times

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Talos and Demeter.

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talos and dem

brave dove
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oh

brisk trail
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I can't believe fists has two BANGER aspects

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like I can't decide which one I like more

modest lantern
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The magnetic one is pretty fun

brave dove
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||oh pom blossom makes Hades have a different dialogue||

brisk trail
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Hades aspect is the only spear I like

brave dove
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||guan yu is basically putting LC on you||

brisk trail
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makes up for the bad base dmg

brave dove
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||wut does Hades say if u show up with his own spear||

brisk trail
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||he's like I discarded that one for my current, larger spear|| lol

real edge
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I dont like any spear aspect

brave dove
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|| LOL ||

brisk trail
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deadass

brave dove
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|| oh hey Hades just said "well... done... boy..."||

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||LOL the pom blossom just leveled one of my boons up after the fight||

slim grail
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shield kinda sucks

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i didnt use it right

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idk... because of shield attacks keep bouncing around, it gets tiring that i have to dash to them LOL

rapid forum
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Twice now that I lost to FO2 EM4

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how did I beat it the first time?

brave dove
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FO?

brisk trail
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Forced Overtime

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increased attack and movement speed

brave dove
#

oh

modest lantern
#

Is Guan Yu even good?

brisk trail
#

Very.

swift ginkgo
#

After more than 100 fish caught, and 0 legendary, I just learned that the chance to get one legendary is speed based... I should have checked before lol

carmine ravine
#

is fine, but is very eh on higher heat

modest lantern
#

Still need 2 more blood for Guan Yu aspect

brisk trail
#

I don't get gy

carmine ravine
#

build the special

brisk trail
#

So Guan Yu's Special doesn't just have tree trunk hitboxes.

#

It has Redwood hitboxes.

#

yeah but its slowwwww

modest lantern
#

What's the best weapon to have final aspect for?

#

Or what I assume is final

brave dove
#

bow
sword
fist

heavy fossil
#

I hate guan yu. I regret maxing it shadegrief

brave dove
#

or shield instead of fist

brisk trail
#

Its Special? I disagree. It's not monster fast, but none of the 4th Aspects are.

modest lantern
#

Idk, I've gotten all the blood from the first boss

brisk trail
#

all of em are slow but some feel different than others

brave dove
#

aight kinse

#

still got the blood?

modest lantern
#

No

#

I've spent all of it on weapons because I didn't know what I was doing

brisk trail
#

hidden spear and fists feel desperate while sord feels calculated, bow feels powerful, shield feels strong

brave dove
#

oof

modest lantern
#

Wish blood had a thing that you could get it back

brisk trail
#

my first win was with zag sword

molten nymph
#

hidden spear and fists feel desperate while sord feels calculated, bow feels powerful, shield feels strong
ah yes
calculated final boss facetanking

brave dove
#

same

#

zag sword gang

#

sword 4 is just...

#

TANK

#

is had 426 hp with it before

#

i had*

brisk trail
#

not the way I play it

brave dove
#

without old spiked collar

brisk trail
#

turns the game into dark souls

modest lantern
#

I can usually get all titan blood that's on special

molten nymph
#

anyway, there's a trick to test drive weapons

#

well not really a trick

#

but if you give up your run you'll return to the last time you entered skelly room

modest lantern
#

How do I learn to play the lire

brisk trail
#

keep playing it

molten nymph
#

so if you buy weapon -> start run -> give up
the save will rollback to before you buy the weapon

brisk trail
#

keep making bad noises until you start making good noises

#

like learning an instrument irl

modest lantern
#

Where do I do that

brave dove
#

for ur first clear just play the most comfortable weapon u play with

molten nymph
#

your room

#

gotta buy the lyre first though

brisk trail
#

if you interact with it 5 times before you start each run you'll get good decently fast

brave dove
#

i dont like EM2 Hydra

modest lantern
#

So I just spam the use button until I do good?

brisk trail
#

p much

brave dove
#

no room to dash

brisk trail
#

just use hidden sord special 4head

#

If you were extremley patient you could literally do it in a single sitting.

carmine ravine
#

u got the whole room to dash

brave dove
#

i usually dash into lava :P

brisk trail
#

You don't even have to exit Zag's room, it will progress to the final stage fluidly.

#

You will have to do several runs to run all the conversations with Orpheus.

carmine ravine
#

then dont dash into lavadusa

brisk trail
#

thanks hypnos

brave dove
#

thnx

#

lol

carmine ravine
#

very protip right there

#

i should be a consultant

brave dove
#

IM LOVING THIS CAST BUILD

#

just defeated asterius in his mini boss thing where his by himself without taking dmg

#

stood at one side and spammed cast

#

and only went in close with my special to dislodge the cast

brisk trail
#

Uncle sord is funny

modest lantern
#

I've played this lyre 100 times what

brisk trail
#

keep going

carmine ravine
#

jsut 100 more

modest lantern
#

Still hecking

neat rover
#

Almost 100 runs in and i was just thinking how cool it would be if there was an "Orpheus Mode" or something where you do the Stages in reverse order

molten nymph
#

DMC4 method of level reuse lol

brisk trail
#

beating the sh*t out of meg with my endgame build

brave dove
#

....

#

im calling bullsh*t rn

#

||i was behind one of the pillars and this was Hades' second phase, i had 20 hp left and he was like 2-3 hits away from dying, Hades does he 360 death beam and i somehow get hit behind the pillar and i lose since i had no more DDS||

neat rover
#

should have given him a hug instead

#

=p

modest lantern
#

This lyre is pissing me off

brave dove
#

i cant pull off the hug thing consistently

#

i still get hit sometimes

brisk trail
#

u really gotta get in there

#

casting will push u backwards

brave dove
#

still surprised i made it that far with a cast buid tho

#

i had the casts doing 1k dmg on crit >.<

#

and exit wounds

carmine ravine
modest lantern
#

I tried :(

#

I think I'm done playing for the night anyways.

brisk trail
brave dove
#

ooof

#

||but how was Guan yu?||

brisk trail
#

36 minutes ๐Ÿ’€

modest lantern
#

I'll probably be back tomorrow. Although, I am quite forgetful so we shall see

#

Byee

brisk trail
#

that was my first and only gy run

brave dove
#

oh

carmine ravine
#

y dont u use special

brisk trail
#

this was like my fourth day playing the game

brave dove
#

u would think swarms would ruin sword 4 since it attacks so slow

#

but its combo AOE is so BIG

carmine ravine
#

u can dash atk for every part of combo

brave dove
#

oo

brisk trail
#

keep it movin

brave dove
#

...

#

so.. i just got swift strike from hermes +30% more attack speed

#

sword 4 now fastttttt

carmine ravine
#

nice

brave dove
#

LOL

#

||Hades just said " how could u boy! that hydra had a family" after i defeated lernie||

low trail
#

LOL

brave dove
#

remember guys the hydra has a family

dusty cedar
#

hello! im wondering what are the preferred boons for chiron bow?

brave dove
#

HOLY FINALLY!

#

i DID A NO HIT thesus and asterius

#

||did use skelly companion tho||

#

||i have 23mins left on TD i hope for a fast satyr sack||

green maple
#

Is ||skelly|| good? Cant really find the benefit

brisk trail
#

i def start all my chiron bow runs w artemis trinket for her special

brave dove
green maple
#

Hmmmmmm ive seen people doing it in the barge of death

brave dove
#

makes all the stuff on the barge of death attack skelly while they kill the enemies

#

some also do it with the gorgon and crusher thing

green maple
#

Ooooo

brave dove
#

holy crap i just bested my fastest run being 20 mins by 4 mins
i just cleared with 16mins 15 seconds

green maple
#

Do you prefer it over ||meg?||

#

GG

brave dove
#

||skelly companion is the only one i have rn :P||

green maple
#

Ohhhh

#

GL! Those things makes life way easier down in hell

brave dove
#

on 9 heat too

#

:>

brisk trail
thorny wyvern
#

||(arthur)||

brave dove
#

OOf

#

spoiler that btw

#

the ||arthur||

thorny wyvern
#

oop

brave dove
#

wrong one lol

#

the picture is ok

thorny wyvern
#

lol

brave dove
#

i also had a chaos boon where i couldnt attack with my sword

#

so i was spamming cast and special

#

good news tho

#

it leaves u at 1 hp if u attack and lose hp

#

bad news u can get 1 hit

thorny crescent
#

Wait,you guys use attack in your runs?

#

Lmao just pick Poseidon dash and win the game

carmine ravine
#

yes but finish slower

thorny wyvern
#

but td ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

brave dove
#

ARTERMIS NO

grim wedge
#

guys where can i get help with an issue i have?

brave dove
#

||Summoned skelly then when i had enough god gauge i used artermis call to hit hades, artermis was like nah ill do only abit of dmg to Hades and kill skelly||

#

||ANY WAYS YESSSSS FIRST TIME BEATING HADES WITHOUT USING DD||

grim wedge
#

nvm my bad

#

channels right there

slim grail
#

@brave dove what's dd?

brave dove
#

death defiance

brave dove
#

LOL ||Hades : " that blasted Hydra never takes my feedback"||

brave dove
#

spear 4 sux

brisk trail
#

That moment Win10 decides a notification is more important than your game, minimizes Hades while you're in an Erebus dungeon, and upon return, you get hit.

remote anchor
#

Oof I'm in the home stretch for epilogue

#

But I can't get those last few dialogues to trigger so I can progress

spring yacht
#

||poseiden locked f-ing heart! I hate it :D||

void ginkgo
#

What are people's thoughts on Hammers with % damage to armor? At first I was like these are awesome!

Now I never pick them cause they don't help agaist bosses

brisk trail
#

I guess only if I run ||benefits package lvl2 with other bs modifiers||

#

I tend to pick them from time to time if I'm running a hangover or dot related build and I need to burn through the armor to speed things along

#

like a Doom, Rupture, or that debuff that comes from one of Zeus' boons

#

Jolted

#

Granted I prefer chonky numbers so Sword 4, Spear 4, or Gun Bomb/Rocket build is what I play.

rustic valve
#

I pick them over a few other hammers, but they're not my top spot

#

They're still useful, so it's not like I never pick them, but there's better hammers

#

At least as far as my experience goes

last moat
#

Breaching Cross for the Fists is amazing

molten nymph
#

yeah

drowsy warren
#

do I need to avoid boons for Sisyphus' keepsake damage or can I take them?

molten nymph
#

armor is sometimes like
2 or 3 times the hp, and the stun immunity is annoying

#

sisyphus' keepsake activates for your tools that haven't been booned

severe flare
#

His companion is even better. Free Obol!

molten nymph
#

let's say you only have boon on attack

#

you can get the +100% on special

drowsy warren
#

alrighty thanks

severe flare
#

After 1 or 2 weeks, I can't beat Charon anymore.

#

I've become slow

drowsy warren
#

planning on doing ||32 heat for skelly prize|| and was thinking sisy's keepsake would be a good one

severe flare
#

farewell Hades game

severe flare
#

No achievement, no fated list item

drowsy warren
#

I know

#

its just fun to have

molten nymph
#

don't spoil the surprise

drowsy warren
molten nymph
#

i don't think sissy's keepsake is good for 32

sage depot
#

LET THEM HAVE THEIR STATUE

severe flare
#

the first and second ones are statues so the 3rd one should be... you know it?

molten nymph
#

i think the ||statue|| should be put in spoiler

severe flare
#

OK

drowsy warren
#

^

#

also how do I ||trigger the epilogue||?

molten nymph
#

anyway, people try to avoid AP until really high heat, so i don't think sisy for 32 is necessary

#

acorn helps a lot for the final boss at that heat

#

||you need to be buddies with the olympian||

severe flare
#

No, he hasn't get it yet

severe flare
drowsy warren
#

oh no not the thot shadeembarassed

#

oops wrong one

severe flare
#

If she hasn't return to the House of Hades yet, you need to beat Hades every time and talk to her every time.

drowsy warren
#

alright epic

severe flare
#

iirc, keep giving Nectar to ||Hades||. Keep talking to him, too

#

don't worry, he's very kind. He'll ||return all 5 Nectar to Zag||

drowsy warren
#

sweet

#

I hope ||his mood will change to more happy||

severe flare
#

after that, you trigger the epilogue. You can see the requirements (whom) to be given Nectar/Ambrosia on the Fated list (Zag's bedroom).

drowsy warren
#

shadesmile ๐Ÿ‘

sturdy schooner
#

Does giving Nectar to ||bouldy|| do anything or is it just a Nectar dump?

molten nymph
#

it gives a random 2% buff

drowsy warren
#

can you see which buff it gives to?

molten nymph
#

yep

#

its in your boon list

sturdy schooner
#

Oh wow!

#

How did I miss that

slim grail
#

is there a way to reset your weapon upgrades?

#

or refund

brisk trail
#

nope

#

if you just upgraded and haven't left the room yet

#

you can just quit cause it won't save

#

but aside from that no

nocturne ginkgo
#

I decided to start recording a hell mode playthrough but I keep dying embarassing deaths to stupid things that I never die to when I'm not recording

#

dang lmao

slim grail
brisk trail
#

you can get them from prophecies and trading as well

#

also the final shop in styx if you can save till then

nocturne ginkgo
#

Once you find a weapon you feel comfy with getting to styx with a pocket full of money is easy for a free diamond/blood

#

I constantly just go 0 heat just to get to styx then die to poison

slim grail
nocturne ginkgo
#

they are also used as a gift to unlock hearts

brisk trail
#

yep

#

you use them to max your bond with characters

slim grail
brisk trail
#

yeah, ambrosia

#

the option to give them ambrosia only appears once you give enough nectar and unlock the locked heart

slim grail
slim grail
nocturne ginkgo
#

yeah the shop in styx will always offer either a diamond for 1000 or a titan blood for 1200

brisk trail
#

most characters have specific conditions that have to be fulfilled in order to unlock their heart

latent knot
#

so when are supergiant releasing the dating sim dlc

nocturne ginkgo
#

this is a dating sim though?

#

I mean have you seen bouldy

#

That seems like not a good message

latent knot
nocturne ginkgo
#

I recognized like three words in that and went Uhoh

brisk trail
#

um

slim grail
nocturne ginkgo
#

just choose money doors

#

and break urns

brisk trail
#

your keepsake?

nocturne ginkgo
#

also the cthonic coin purse keepsake is good too

tight agate
#

does aegis blitz proc support fire?

faint flume
#

yep

#

it's really good

bronze badge
#

Are there any DLCs or sequels planned for Hades? There is so much potential to do more with Greek Mythology and this playstyle.. I would looooooooove more of this

#

even more stories and not just Zagreus

#

"just" lol

rustic valve
#

SGG don't typically do DLC and they've not hinted at either DLC or a sequel

#

anything beyond a few more balance patches seems unlikely

bronze badge
#

I see... maybe they will surprise us with something even greater ๐Ÿ™‚

rustic valve
#

there have been some hints at cut content found through datamining and that might, possibly happen maybe

#

But it's probably just cut and not preparation for updates.

bronze badge
#

๐Ÿ‘ arigato

fervent bane
#

Can't we raise a go fund me?

#

Also any update on Nintendo cross save or how easy the process will be once implemented

rustic valve
tight agate
#

oh also does blitz shield continually act as a as deflecting object with the athena boon

faint flume
#

yes

tight agate
#

wew blitz shield seems really really good with athen

#

why don't more people try it

rustic valve
#

because shield is painful to use ๐Ÿ˜‰

#

More seriously: Because it's all personal preference

#

You can make all weapons work

#

SGG probably has pick rate statistics, but otherwise I don't think we know which weapons are more or less popular

#

Except for speedruns, where Eris Rail dominates

faint flume
#

well that's because Eris rail has a really easy way to get bonus damage

rustic valve
#

yup

#

and plenty of it, too

#

and if you get the right hammers, that gets really strong really fast

brisk trail
#

just stopped playing hades

tight agate
#

I mean blitz deflect see,s rea;;y rea;;y op though I have never used it

#

most enemy attacks would get deflected

brisk trail
#

cuz i died a stupid death to meg

tight agate
#

wew after a few days of playing hades for 16 hours a day I burnt out

fleet nimbus
#

what happens when I give a character max nectar

nocturne ginkgo
#

Dang I keep dying in really stupid ways when trying to get this first hell mode run done

#

base sword is really hard

unreal shard
#

guys is there an Arabic subtitle in hades ?

rapid mantle
#

Hey all, maybe this was mentioned already but there's just so much to pay attention too I missed it. Does Hades have cross save with Nintendo switch yet? If not, are they working on it still or did they do away with that plan?

quiet gull
rapid mantle
#

thank you! I will only plan on buying the Switch version if they come out with cross save. Otherwise I'll stick to PC

brisk trail
#

if I noticed something that seems like a bug where can I report it ? PauseChamp

void vigil
brisk trail
#

Even if it's for something regarding damages bug ? 9096_thinkingpepe

void vigil
#

What do you mean?

brisk trail
#

Basically my aspect of ||Gilgamesh|| says that I do "250" base Maim damages, but it only does 200 :p

tacit ember
#

maim is basicaly doom right?

#

havent played around with it yet

brisk trail
#

it's some kind of doom

#

but much slower

void vigil
#

Yeah, go ahead and report it

brisk trail
#

and you deal more damages to the enemy afflicted by it !

#

alright ty

#

I tried using F10

#

it only made my game crash for some reasons

#

:p

swift ginkgo
#

but there is not way to increase maim damage (the burst damage after a few seconds) however

brisk trail
#

yes you can

#

but it's very little as far as Ican remember

rustic valve
#

well, by upgrading the aspect you can

#

it goes up to 400

#

which is neat

brisk trail
#

I've seen some boons have effect to it

#

though

swift ginkgo
#

have you? which ones?

brisk trail
#

I don't know which ones

tacit ember
#

general damage ones i would asume

swift ginkgo
#

the max damage is 400, and you cannot change that

tacit ember
#

like the aris one

#

i think

swift ginkgo
#

yes but the maim damage (doom like one) is fixed, and depends on the aspect upgrade

#

it's not influenced buy any boons

tacit ember
#

cam maim crit

#

with artimus preashur point

#

s

brisk trail
#

perhaps the family boons

#

perk

tacit ember
#

its alll damage crit

#

privlage status maby also

#

cast stone thing to

thorny wyvern
#

cry

#

lol

next canopy
#

Does Hades is the guy talking off

#

?

runic agate
#

I just had one of my most broken runs EVER

#

I was doing 150dmg every .35 seconds

#

Dion area duo plus pom blossom

#

Is broken

#

I'ma put it up in boasting in a sec

brisk trail
#

sweet nectar doesn't affect pom blossom

runic agate
#

I think we all know that

#

Dion ares duo is "your hangover effects do dmg every .35 seconds instead of .50 seconds"

#

I think sweat nectar is posiden aphro

#

And the post blossom part was cuz it made me have a level 11 drunken strike

#

@brisk trail

brisk trail
#

ah

#

I thought area was an aphro typo for some reason

runic agate
#

-_-

brisk trail
#

i didnt get much sleep last night

runic agate
#

Go look in boasting

#

and i had hoarding slash with 1k coins

#

soooooo

#

and a chaos boon for +80% attack dmg

#

and the urge to kill ares boon so i was doing like 120 dmg per hit without the hang over

#

so everything kinda just melted

#

@brisk trail

#

this was a sword run btw

#

it was my most broken build EVER

gritty gyro
#

heya

#

Any news on DLCs?

#

i miss history after endgame

#

ah

#

i searched here

#

looks like no news until now

runic agate
#

nope

#

no dlc

gritty gyro
#

confirmed no dlc or no news?

quiet gull
#

DLC is very unlikely

runic agate
#

dlc will likely never be a thing

#

prob only FREE updates

gritty gyro
#

that doesnt mean they will never do it...

runic agate
#

would you rather dlc or a free update?

gritty gyro
#

downloadable content = dlc

carmine ravine
#

yes

#

usually in seasonals, free dlc is a common thing

pliant sparrow
#

bastion dlc is a thing

carmine ravine
#

like a silly hat

pliant sparrow
#

therefore, supergiant has put dlc out for their games

runic agate
#

bruh

pliant sparrow
#

it was a sizable chunk of content too

red tiger
#

eh, meanings change

#

DLC means paid. non-paid DLC is just called an update.

carmine ravine
#

so u call GoT legends dlc is an update?

winter harbor
#

Stardew Valley has updates

#

EA has DLC

rustic valve
#

Nah, DLC still can be free, there's plenty of examples of that

runic agate
#

the term DLC was made for not free content

#

the term update is more suitable for the meaning of free content

carmine ravine
#

not rly, dlc comes from expansions

rustic valve
#

yeah

carmine ravine
#

which is free mostly

green maple
#

DLC is more like downloadable content

#

Not "paywall content"

rustic valve
#

These days, even board games and RPGs have DLC sometimes, which is free and includes stuff like extra plot hooks or content they couldn't fit in the pages they had available for printing

#

Bonus characters from Legends of Andor, for example

carmine ravine
#

i guess they probably just used to only play triple a games so they dont know about those free dlcs

strong token
#

I like to call it FreeLC

#

Bc Iโ€™ve become the dad joker now I guess

eternal pawn
#

the ultimate hades flex is having a transparent controller and fishing when you see the rightmost metal weight spin for the rumble effect ๐Ÿ˜Ž

strong token
#

Oh it rumbles?

#

I had no idea bc Iโ€™ve been playing handheld switch this whole time haha

#

I have a very important question

#

Why do the tiny chariots meow?

quiet gull
#

Why WOULDNT they meow?

strong token
#

So it sounds like a meow to everyone else/is intended to sound like one? Just making sure Iโ€™m not crazy...

rose quest
#

Anyone max out title? Any idea how long it takes?

strong token
#

Title?

rustic valve
#

Cosmetic thing you can get from the Resource Director in the epilogue

brisk trail
#

takes about 325k darkness

rose quest
#

T_T

brisk trail
#

you just gotta see the credits, not the epilogue

winter harbor
#

It doesn't affect gameplay

rose quest
#

But it is pretty

winter harbor
#

It's just for those who want a goal to work towards and did everything else

rustic valve
#

I mean, once you get to the credits, you're in the epilogue

rose quest
#

and I am a simple human

brisk trail
#

id call it postgame

#

bc the epilogue is like an actual event to my knowledge

rustic valve
#

same thing

winter harbor
#

I do like how Zag became a ||physical pentester|| in the ending

rustic valve
#

Ah, I consider everything leading up to the event the epilogue

brisk trail
#

||white-hat hacker||

carmine ravine
#

eh i call the ||feast|| as true ending

#

anything after the first credits i rregard as midgame

rustic valve
#

heh, for me it's ending (when you escape the first time), true ending (when you get the credits) and then the epilogue

glass sentinel
carmine ravine
#

yes it kinda is

undone coyote
#

Hades and Furi have been two of my most favorite games I played this year

#

are there any other boss focused games like it?

pliant sparrow
#

enter the gungeon ig

winter harbor
#

Curse of the dead gods?

pliant sparrow
#

dark souls

winter harbor
#

Only it's a mesoamerican theme with curses, which afaik are tradeoffs for perks

undone coyote
#

I have enter the gungeon and DS installed

#

ill check out curse

winter harbor
#

I think it came out recently

undone coyote
#

march 3 yeah

glass sentinel
#

Gunfire Reborn? BUt it's still in development on Steam

pliant sparrow
#

the arkham series has pretty good bosses

#

sekiro too

undone coyote
#

Arkham isnt as fast paced as hades or furi

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in these games theres constant action

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Thats what im mainly looking for

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Im about to give gungeon another spin

fresh magnet
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how do i unequip companions

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๐Ÿฅด

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like not change to a different one

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just removing it

winter harbor
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You can't

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You can't unequip keepsakes either

fresh magnet
rustic valve
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You can just pick one that does nothing for you build, though

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and not use a keepsake

fresh magnet
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i just dont want the store to offer me +1 use for my companion

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i want other offers

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lol

heavy fossil
remote anchor
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Extreme Measures 3 is something huh

hot flame
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lol

heavy fossil
tight agate
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I thought that blitz shield auto tracked enemies since they gameplay I saw of it was amazing

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I thought it was mega op

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now I realise why I was wrong

remote anchor
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Getting huge John mcclane vibes from EM3

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Ho-ho-ho!

dusky estuary
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It's glorious.

fading gazelle
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Rocket bull do be bs though

remote anchor
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I had the bow

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Also can this game be over soon goshdarnit

fading gazelle
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Debatable

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I mean depends oh what you'd count as an end

remote anchor
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I'm just trying to get the gods to say the right line of dialogue so that I xan unlock relationship progression

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I have Aphrodite, Artemis, Poseidon and Ares locked. Demeter obviously

chilly slate
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Dropping a crystal beam at a brimstone feels like โ€œYEAH?? How do you like that now??? Huh??โ€

remote anchor
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Afaik I'm waiting for Four of those to say the right thing

heavy fossil
tame plaza
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Zeus give you clear skies above ya

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Is there a place to discuss mythology?

smoky rune
carmine ravine
floral matrix
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Does anyone know what the odds are of getting defiance from chaos once you have a boon?

smoky rune
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What is defiance?

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I forget

floral matrix
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it gives you an extra life and it's the legendary boon

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i have over 150 runs and still have yet to see it so i was curious

brisk trail
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ive only gotten it 2 times out of about 110

lone sinew
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I've been wondering too idk

brisk trail
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and i go into almsot every chaos gate i see

smoky rune
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I got it 90 hours or so in, but that was EA, the patch right before 1.0 (I'm pretty sure)

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hm...

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Do you have a full bond with them?

floral matrix
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yeah

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I'm normally really lucky and get legendarys or duos almost every run

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but not from them

smoky rune
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:spoiler test:

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::spoiler test::

pliant sparrow
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||

smoky rune
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TY

floral matrix
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||test||

smoky rune
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||Have you reunited Nyx and Chaos?||

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@floral matrix

floral matrix
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||yeah i have, did that first out of all the major reunions||

smoky rune
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hm...not sure

brisk trail
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||working on that bond rn, both times i got the legendary were before i started||

floral matrix
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hmmmm....

smoky rune
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The plot thickens...

floral matrix
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that'd be cursed if it works like that

smoky rune
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Maybe Supergiant will read this and look into it

fading gazelle
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The chaos legendary is just really hard to get squirtnya

brisk trail
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i mean. its an extra death defiance

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it should be rare

fading gazelle
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Nothing else to it

smoky rune
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Are you using God's Pride or Legacy?

fading gazelle
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It's just pretty rare

floral matrix
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oh I agree it should be rare

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but I think someone may have done 0.5% chance instead of 5% or something akin to that

brisk trail
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i always roll w legacy

floral matrix
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I run with the legendary duo % mirror thing

fading gazelle
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RNGesus has just been really unkind shadeembarassed

floral matrix
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ikr lol

fading gazelle
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I don't know if they'll increase it's chances cause I know it was even lower before

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So it's already been raised to be more 'common'

brisk trail
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i think that once i get every gods legendary ill switch to pride

floral matrix
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Wow oof guess I'll just have to keep grinding

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oh and Arty is the best girl ๐Ÿ™‚

fading gazelle
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Good squirtnya

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I'm happy the word has been spreading

heavy fossil
fading gazelle
smoky rune
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You're not going to believe this...

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I just got Defiance haha

fading gazelle
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Oooooh nice

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Did you take it? squirtnya

smoky rune
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I did