before having bought it
#h1-discussion
spring pawn
vocal ridge
defiance?
gusty slate
death defiance
vocal ridge
i dont know what those are
gusty slate
2stubborn2die, extra life
vocal ridge
im playing it in spanish
ooooooooh
sometime the revive doesnt work for me
but only on bosses
gusty slate
Are you able to see what titan blood is used for now?
vocal ridge
yeah
gusty slate
Those are just aspects, each are a different playstyle
Go to courtyard, spend the blood, DO NOT GO INTO BEDROOM. Go on a run to test, then either altf4 before death or Give up to revert save back to courtyard save. No blood spent/committed. That run never existed so you can try things out before saving/committing
If you want to test before committing blood
mossy hazel
Hey! Anyone else here died at the same time as Hades, creating a game breaking bug?
vocal ridge
go to #h1-tech-support
or tech fixes
by the way
i seen people complaining of how har is the second boss
for me it was a piece of cake
the hard one is the third
gusty slate
Has happened before, #h1-tech-support or #h1-tech-fixes might be able to help yeah. 
also if on pc
mossy hazel
Nah it was on switch ^^
gusty slate
oof
mossy hazel
I was just curious ^^
gusty slate
Yeah, that sucks, you'll get 'em next time 👍
vocal ridge
thsi game is a 10/10 for me 9 points for the music, playability, replayabilty, voices, artwork etc, and 1 point because you can pet the puppy
gusty slate
different parts of the game will be hard for different people, but third boss tends to be a wall for players yeah
vocal ridge
being able to pet the puppy = GOTY
mossy hazel
Nah it's not enough, there's a whole Twitter account about it x)
vocal ridge
wait what?
mossy hazel
@canyoupetthedog
vocal ridge
oh my god
mossy hazel
I even remember Enter the gungeon, there is corgi you couldn't pet. It featured in the thread.
Devs came "hold my beer"
Next thing you know, you could pet the dog
vocal ridge
yeah
you know in ghost of thushima the foxes were petted 100k in a week of the release
mossy hazel
Oh I didn't know that
I never pet them when praying cause I can't find them in Kurosawa mode x)
I mean, it's my own altar 😭
quick vector
Do u we know if they plan on releasing another weapon ?
dark scroll
No and I don't think they ever will even if they release a DLC which is still unknown and somewhat unlikely.
gusty slate
SGG hasn't confirmed or denied anything, we can only hope
dark scroll
Keep buying the game, we'll shower em in money so they'll have to spend it on making dlc.
gusty slate
takes funds to build next game 
fading gazelle
tiny grove
Superquality Games
rose nexus
being able to pet the puppy = GOTY
@vocal ridge I lost my mind when in first pet cerb
manic vessel
i cant get further then the minotaur any tips i love the bow but i still have to try the gun
formal nimbus
Get behind to damage during the 2 big swipes, then dash under his jump when he turns for the last hit of the combo.
manic vessel
thx
formal nimbus
Having some deflect also work as a cheat if you don't know how to avoid his projectiles
robust sundial
pro tip, he doesn't always swing swing jump.
sometimes it's swing x3, or jump x3, or any combination of both attacks in a 3 hit pattern.
but yeah, backstab's the way to go.
lusty crane
third boss has always been harder for me than second boss
manic vessel
i see people leaving already on there 7th run ever then you have me on my 22th run still not further then the midboss of the third thing
tiny grove
I mean, this game is SP
lusty crane
it's fine I took like 41 runs to escape my first time
tiny grove
take it at your own pace
no one's judging
tbf in our friendship group this guy finished on his 3rd run
and everybody hates him
because of it 
manic vessel
should i try the railgun
glass flame
hey, fwiw, I'm on run 40 and still haven't gotten through the third region
manic vessel
i love the bow
manic vessel
nut the railgun is the only one i didnt use yet
glass flame
Definitely! Mix up your weapons, and you'll get used to and appreciate all of them
cursive crater
Hey just a brief question: I've already played hundreds of hours on the PC version, I'd like to buy the game on Switch (to play in portable version only).
So is the game readable and with correct FPS on the portable Switch screen ?
Thanks ^-^
manic vessel
what should i use on the gun, artemis, or zeus or?
Hey just a brief question: I've already played hundreds of hours on the PC version, I'd like to buy the game on Switch (to play in portable version only).
So is the game readable and with correct FPS on the portable Switch screen ?
Thanks ^-^
@cursive crater i play on switch, its really awesome
glass flame
Can't speak to FPS since it doesn't matter to me a whole lot, but the game is definitely readable!
lusty crane
I play on switch so I would say it's pretty readable
glass flame
It feels so good on the Switch
tiny grove
what should i use on the gun, artemis, or zeus or?
@manic vessel Arty is great with the special
cursive crater
Even on the little screen ? Good to know guys :)
tiny grove
Zeus is solid for the attack on gun in general
manic vessel
okay got it thank you
lusty crane
but the gun has some awesome hammer upgrades too
manic vessel
maybe the gun will give my my first escape
tiny grove
gun is my highest winrate weapon so far
manic vessel
if i see a hermes boon, is that alwasy a go to except when i need to choose between hermes or hammer?
tiny grove
Definitely a good weapon
cursive crater
Hermes is dope
lusty crane
i'd pick hammer over hermes most of the time
manic vessel
so always hamer and then hermes second?
tiny grove
Look at your build and decide what you need. Hermes and Hammers are limited to 2, and have some leaning priorities about whenit is shown to you
Sometimes you want Hermes more than Hammer
cursive crater
Hammer over hermes but hermes is definitely S tier God for me !
rose nexus
Zeus is solid for the attack on gun in general
@tiny grove I love Zeus on everything tbh
tiny grove
For example, some weapons are completely hammer dependent. Some are not
@tiny grove I love Zeus on everything tbh
@rose nexus Zeus only needs more Zeus to be awesome
so why not 
rose nexus
lusty crane
The raingun is good but it deeply leans on hammer and hermes to REALLY be awesome
manic vessel
thankz you all
austere stag
why does the rail depend on hermes?
austere stag
i see
manic vessel
i once angered aphro, after that one time never again
rose nexus
Horny jail
tiny grove
The raingun is good but it deeply leans on hammer and hermes to REALLY be awesome
@lusty crane Mmm I think gun is mostly more hammer dependent than Hermes dependent
lusty crane
i'd say that too
tiny grove
don't get me wrong you cannot go wrong with getting good Hermes
getting epic Hermes boons feels
so darn good
rose nexus
I’m always getting weak hermes buffs so now I don’t go to his boons anymore
lusty crane
because attack and speed upgrades for the gun are always great
tiny grove
even common Hermes boons are solid tbh
and once your mirror is well upgraded
these options only get better on average
faint flume
how'd you get the fancy victory summary rims?
tiny grove
@faint flume ||https://hades.gamepedia.com/Run_Clear_Messages||
tiny grove
no no, i just prefer to spoiler wiki links because, if people wanna go there they will find that stuff themselves
faint flume
makes sense
also looking at the link, I meant the lining to those screens
best guess is they're related to ||the rank you get from the shade in dad's bedroom?||
tiny grove
@faint flume Oh I see. My bad. ||Do you mean the colour and style of the border of the boon screen?||
faint flume
yeh
tiny grove
In that case they come from ||spending excess metaresources at the House Contractor, in the metalategame.||
the options will pop up at some point
faint flume
yeah I haven't decided to ||throw stuff down the bottomless pit yet||, might start doing it soon then
faint flume
I'm helping by buying new furniture it's fine
manic vessel
can you romance evrye female character? and the only thing u need to do is give them nectar right?
tiny grove
No, you can't romance Nyx. That's just wrong
tiny grove
Jk though,|| there's gifting to be friends, as well as gifting for romance||
they start as the same mechanic though
manic vessel
but basicly for both i just need to give nectar?
tiny grove
To start off with yes
manic vessel
i still dont really get it
faint flume
also you can romance male characters as well
manic vessel
yeah, but maybe in dms
glass shell
is it worth playing with an unupgraded ||hera||
novel shadow
So is this the channel where I can shamelessly promote the Hades video I made where I give away a steam copy of the game?
pliant sparrow
cedar remnant
JESUS CHRIST HADES WAS ACTUALLY ONE HIT AWAY
i am so mad
I got killed by the wave thing
faint flume
f
cedar remnant
f indeed
shy tartan
whenever i boot up hades, i get an option for hades, vulcan, and 32-bit. does anyone know the difference?
flat vapor
Added choice of rendering configurations when starting the game, including a new Vulkan renderer option, which may lead to better performance and stability on some systems (you can also run this version of Hades.exe directly from the x64Vk folder in your install directory)
half mica
After the ||500 gem contract|| are there any more non-cosmetic contracts involving gems?
carmine zodiac
The rug is the most powerful contract in the game
robust sundial
how many redacted are we talking about here ?
oh wait, he meant gemstones, not diamonds...
ye, there's a few at ||2000 or 3000|| if memory serves.
half mica
The ||500 gem one is for infernal trove||
marsh pendant
Just found out Dusa hums while she's cleaning and it's the cutest thing!
tiny grove
I believe the only way to avoid it is i frame it
Deflect does nothing
time to practice i-framing it then
:D
tbf hazard bomb only does 1% damage to yourself
quiet gull
Does Deflect also block dmg from my Railgun Special?
@brisk trail I mean, if you deflected it it would still deal damage to you
But yeah it really isnt that hard to just dash through it, and even then the damage aint that bad (at low heat)
tiny grove
I'm sure you can practice i-framing it just off the sound cue of the special's flight path
Fyi if you're critting for 2000 damage, self damage would still only be 20
which is absolutely manageable
And I'm not sure you're critting for 2k
quiet gull
If you're dealing that much damage then you dont need the Eris boost anyways
tiny grove
either you're doing so much damage, everything dies without Eris
or you need the damage boost, and the chip self damage is manageable
that's fair... I kinda just run SD though
so my health is totally transitory from chamber to chamber
Eris is Additive
I mean
it's great, it's just not insane OP crazy
Back in old early access
when numbers were all multiplicative
you'd get 900% 1000% damage combos
which is really hard to balance
and design enemies around
quiet gull
when numbers were all multiplicative
@tiny grove damn that sounds wack
tiny grove
I am very glad that they decided to go additive instead for the vast majority of modifiers
quiet gull
No, crit is the only thing that's multiplicative
tiny grove
@tiny grove damn that sounds wack
@quiet gull I do believe that is the technical term for it yes
tiny grove
It's part of the reason Hunter's Mark is so good
quiet gull
crit damage modifiers also additive
tiny grove
start the crit chain from here there anywhere
hard pier
Spellbow Crits are also nice
tiny grove
Hera?
hard pier
Ye
tiny grove
Still need to play Hera actually :D
tiny grove
Common Rare Epic Heroic Legendary
quiet gull
Duo?
tiny grove
Legendary same rarity as Duo
dark scroll
Well thats them. ;p
quiet gull
The rarities are common, rare, epic, heroic, legendary, duo
That's it
That's a legendary
dark scroll
legendary, Artemis
quiet gull
Artemis' legendary
hard pier
Coupling the Hera bow with Dionysus cast means that you can put only the 2 blood needed to unlock the bow in and then be good
tiny grove
all makes sense now :)
hard pier
Also it gets rid of the lobbing
crimson canopy
anyone know how I can gift a copy of hades on switch to a friend? Looks like digital codes aren't sold on amazon and I don't think nintendo's eshop supports gift sending 😦
tiny grove
Sure ting
Lightning reflexes just checks if you had a near miss
in the same way that ruthless reflex does
anything that happens after is whatever
cedar remnant
||HADES SECOND PHASE ARE YOU FCKING KIDDDDIINNNNGNGNGN||
hard pier
@crimson canopy far as I know, the eshop doesnt have that feature. You're better off just gifting your friend some money for the eshop via the gift cards
tiny grove
so no divine dash does not destroy lightning reflexes
hard pier
||Hades second phase feels easier than the first one to me. Don't freak out too much||
cedar remnant
||Hades second phase feels easier than the first one to me. Don't freak out too much||
@hard pier ||Straight off the bat he used the laser thing and I dashed but it just kept on me, and I died||
tepid plover
Get rekt
grand bay
whats Hell Mode? and can i switch to it at a later point or is that only if i ever decide to reroll my save?
hard pier
Bad
cedar remnant
:(
tiny grove
whats Hell Mode? and can i switch to it at a later point or is that only if i ever decide to reroll my save?
@grand bay New save only
hard pier
Give me your booze shot and go away
grand bay
ah shiet 😦
cedar remnant
yeah I was panicking a little, since it was only my third time getting there
hard pier
||The shield makes the lasers trivial btw||
grand bay
i think ill complete the story on my first save and then reroll a new Hell Mode Save
cedar remnant
||The shield makes the lasers trivial btw||
@hard pier ||yeah makes sense, I was using bow||
hard pier
I don't get why you'd want Hell mode that bad, but you do you
grand bay
what does Hell Mode do anyway?
hard pier
Just block them
Ez
||yeah makes sense, I was using bow||
@cedar remnant ||which one||
tiny grove
@grand bay ||It adds 5 non-negotiable heat pacts, and delays all bounties by 5 heat||
cedar remnant
@cedar remnant ||which one||
@hard pier ||hera lvl 1||
hard pier
Go Dio cast
cedar remnant
?
hard pier
Highest burst damage you'll be able to get early on
hard pier
Poseidon is a God I use when I want more darkness and gems
crisp ocean
Does anyone remember when you had to earn heat just to use it during runs?
hard pier
Artemis is nice, the season lady also helps, Zeus has a nice duo
cedar remnant
k
I'll go for the zeus one
and hopefully I'll make it there again, and not panic this time
hard pier
Zeus has a nice duo boon with festive fog
cedar remnant
||Please tell me there's not a third phase||
hard pier
||nope||
crisp ocean
There's not
cedar remnant
phew
hard pier
Dionysus is S Tier God for me
crisp ocean
How does one look at their achievements?
crisp ocean
I didnt get my copy from steam
hard pier
You mean the fated list?
crisp ocean
I bought mt early access when iy was only available on Epic
No I'm not talking about the fates
cedar remnant
press shift f3 in game
crisp ocean
Ive done th At and it shows nothing
cedar remnant
probably because you bought your copy before epic games had achievements
crisp ocean
I wanna see all the achievements ive gotten over time
cedar remnant
they only added them in the most recent software update
crisp ocean
Yeah my screen was flooded with them for a solid 2 minutes
I disnt get to read most of them because they went by too fast
hard pier
I don't have achievements, downside of being a switch owner
cedar remnant
@hard pier so I want to take trippy flare?
crisp ocean
But how would I look at them?
cedar remnant
I have it on epic and I press shift f3
crisp ocean
But where do you look at them when,you press shift 3
vocal cypress
are twin-stick controls on the roadmap for this game?
cedar remnant
there's a little tick on the right left of the box that appears on the right @crisp ocean
hard pier
Trippy Shot, yes
crisp ocean
Could you show me? I'm not in the game rn
cedar remnant
I have no idea what ||beowulf|| is, I have ||hera|| and I got it in the boon menu?
@hard pier so do it take it, else what do I take?
hard pier
Well, hope for the Zeus duo
Otherwise you're pretty much golden, I'd say
Take other boons that you'd help in general
cedar remnant
Are you sure trippy flare is unique?
hard pier
Flare, yes
cedar remnant
because I just got it right now
gusty slate
There's a bug where flare will pop up with hera
cedar remnant
huh
hard pier
Ah
cedar remnant
so do i take?
hard pier
Well I dunno how that'd work
gusty slate
I've seen it with dio cast
it still works apparently?
in some instances using a pom will make it revert to normal cast instead of flare in the boon menu
cedar remnant
it says offering requirements: none in particular
gusty slate
but the text is independent of the actual boon, should still work fine
unless a recent patch broke it from my last test
hard pier
Really, the gods you'll want to hope for a duo with are Demeter and/or Zeus when you go for the Trippy Shot, though it'll do adequately on its own
hard pier
Perhaps you'll get lucky
cedar remnant
possibly
hard pier
That's how rogue lites like to go
cedar remnant
but I'll count on zeus
hard pier
It'll work fine without the duo boon, it'll just be better with it
Don't stress too much over getting it
cedar remnant
should I always take chaos if I have enough health?
gleaming sparrow
well,
dark scroll
Not always, certainly depends on room choices too.
And earlier chaos room present less "danger" then later ones. I mean get a -50% dash range reduction for 4 rooms right before the 3rd boss with EM3 on and well... that sucks.
Ofc you can pick another 'reward' but all things to keep in mind.
Can you reroll if the chaos ones suck, etc.
cedar remnant
in some instances using a pom will make it revert to normal cast instead of flare in the boon menu
@gusty slate this did not happen
dark scroll
jolted doesn't negate I think
there is a boon that makes jolted last 10 sec or so
so yea, that be short immortalty
gusty slate
no negate, just damage to them
grand bay
oh wow hell mode is rough af 😄
does anybody other than streamers who try to bait viewers play it? lmao
dark scroll
I found Hell mode to be more annoying then difficult difficult.
I'll stick with normal (and higher heat).
grand bay
its probably just a terrible start but after you get to like 10k+ darkness and a few other upgrades its not much worse?
tiny grove
oh wow hell mode is rough af 😄
@grand bay Oh dear. ||I ended up doing 120 darkness Hades fight in Hell mode, I did 10% phase 1 in 1 min||
grand bay
hell mode is literally available the moment you click play game bro are you serious
next anchor
Anyone else think we could have a rogue like with Norse mythology themes next?
tiny grove
Then I died
flat vapor
hell mode is purely front-loaded, early-game difficulty
tiny grove
PL is a real thing tho
cedar remnant
@hard pier which daedalus stuff do I want?
flat vapor
it's an eh addition for having to start all over or playing a save that would've been the exact same as normal mode anyways
cedar remnant
k so nothing specific for the dio cast
grand bay
yeah starting over kinda sucks tbh ;x
hard pier
Do whatever, Experiment. I can't guide you through learning the game bro xD
next anchor
Flame wheels eat my hp so easily
hard pier
You mean || the exploding carriages on Elysium?||
dark scroll
Biggest part is trying not to be greedy to kill em.
dark scroll
Use terrain.
cedar remnant
bad for close range stuff
hard pier
Yeah, that
flat vapor
the easiest thing to do is just kite them into walls/pillars/borders
tiny grove
it's an eh addition for having to start all over or playing a save that would've been the exact same as normal mode anyways
@flat vapor I meant more that it had a real effect on how hard the game is
but yes that too
next anchor
Unless I have deflect they always hurt
cedar remnant
The run I'm on is not going as well as the one I got him to ||phase 2|| on
next anchor
Anyone else wonder why flame wheels make cat noises?
tiny grove
cat wheels you mean?
tiny grove
My gf loves cats so, I feel like I hear cat sounds everywhere
glad it's not just me
flat vapor
nemean chariots are lions
next anchor
Lions are cool, cats are not hides scars
tiny grove
lion go meow
next anchor
No they don't
tiny grove
btw cats only meow because they love us, they growl at challenger cats
meow meow because they treat us like momma/papa cat
cedar remnant
I think the orange horn hydra's the easiest
crisp ocean
I hate the ones that just all they do is slam
agile ingot
Anyone know if there has been any word on when the Switch version is getting the patch, if ever, yet?
crisp ocean
I didn't even know there was a switch version
What'll they think of next ? Hades VR?
Lol
rough token
@agile ingot it should be soon—they were planning by the end of October but ran into some delays. No set date that I know of yet though
random iron
dó enyone know why i just lost all mi progress in the game
crisp ocean
Did you delete your game file?
random iron
no
spare ridge
lol. i fixed the joycon drift with like a tiny bit of rubbing alcohol
@round wraith oh yeah same
i used wd40 actually
random iron
it asked me to save local or cloud and i pressed cloud and i lost all my progress
spare ridge
well
rough token
@random iron steam or epic?
random iron
epic
next anchor
Ppl still use joycons? Lol
rough token
Alright. If you check Documents/Saved Games/ Hades, do the save files there have the correct timestamp for the last time you played?
rough token
Aight. Could you check them? You may be able to recover your progress with the steps towards the end of #h1-tech-fixes
crisp ocean
You know I have an idea, since you can basically customize every aspect of the aesthetics and whatnot, shoulf you not also get to customize what Zagreus wears?
Like as in different outfits
rough token
Nope, and for good reason xD
flat vapor
rough token
Thanks Onyx
random iron
@rough token there is noting called hades.log
rough token
@random iron not that part, the part about "if you lose your progress"
gusty slate
That lose progress only works if you crashed during a run, right?
crisp ocean
I see
gusty slate
and only if you haven't created a 'hard save' by walking into bedroom or dying/clearing
rough token
Nope
gusty slate
Oh?
rough token
It works under any circumstances, bringing you back to the last autosave (if you use _temp.sav) or the last backup (if you use .sav.bak)
gusty slate
sad the game doesn't do it automatically
rough token
It's to prevent easy save-scumming, basically, so you can't walk into a room, almost die, then just quit and reset the room
random iron
@rough token i donsted work i cnat open the file
rough token
You don't need to open it
Just rename it
If you'd like, we could move to #h1-tech-support so you can send me a screenshot of your folder?
random iron
sure
rough token
Yup :D
crisp ocean
I wasn't expecting them,to be the one who hired him
Talks to Charon
Charon: Nnnnnggh aaaaahhhh
Zagreus: lovely chatting
thorny cairn
Is there a right channel for like, LF speedrunning amateur's level? It would be cool to match up against people just for fun, and practice strats
rough token
I think there's a discord for the speedrunning community? I'd check the speedrunning website
thorny cairn
https://discord.gg/zN7cc8Z you're right, thanks!
dark scroll
Good thing they added Hermes to the game, otherwise they couldn't be speedrunning.
crisp ocean
New Hades ||EM3|| festive idea, for Christmas Theseus is riding Santas sleigh and asterius is pulling,it
rough token
Nah, Asterius is riding and Theseus pulling
crisp ocean
Thesesus: I've heard from the great Warrior known as Santa Claus and according to his list you've been a Bad Blagard, Prepare to be Punished Hellspawn!!
rough token
Shield of Chaos, Aspect of Santa
crisp ocean
Malphron is just red mittens
Asterius: King, is it,really necessary to wear this red nose?
Thesesus: What!? Of course it is Asterius. The Great warrior Santa Claus has bestowed his flying chariot to us. Where's your Christmas spirit?
I think I broke the server with that one XD
upbeat mirage
Evening, I'm trying to get Malphon's hidden aspect, but|| Asterius doesn't want to spawn,|| I've been trying all week and only getting the butterfly ball. Is this even normal, or RNGesus is just not smiling on me?
rough token
@upbeat mirage sounds like RNG not smiling :S
crisp ocean
I rarely get the butterfly ball
upbeat mirage
there was a time a week ago or so that I'd get him every single run, now that I need him, he's on holiday...
that's why I even came here, thinking if it was a bug, if there is a weekly rotation or something
every single run since I've started to try to get the hidden fists, butterfly ball...
crisp ocean
Just keep playing
upbeat mirage
well, I guess I need to light a couple candles to RNGesus and see if he finally smiles upon me
crisp ocean
You'll get him eventually, just like I'm waiting to to fight the tiny vermin king
upbeat mirage
is there anything the tiny vermin is supposed to do, or just to see how it is?
because I've fought him once, I was quite surprised
round wraith
winter river
What are yall's favorite weapon aspects for each weapon from just a "most fun" standpoint. Mine are ||Arthur||, Achilles, Zeus, ||Rama||, ||Gilgamesh|| and ||Lucifer||
languid wing
The tanky boi is my fav aspect period
hard pier
Oooh 21 minutes, new best time
Kinda funny to have Demeter kill redacted with the 10 chill stack
carmine zodiac
Zag, Zag, Zag, Zag, Zag, and Zag cause I'm a contrarian
thorny crescent
Lol
thorny crescent
||i love how when you use Hades’s call on Hades he’s like “yes I’m right here”!”||
Late game stuff
hard pier
||Hades has a call? Interesting.||
rose nexus
when ||zag keeps telling orphreus about his "achievements" , i keep taking them seriously too x,D||
autumn rose
Hey, I play Hades for around a week now, and want to leave some feedback. Overall its amazing game: visuals, voicing, plot, sidestories,pacing and progression, everything is top notch. I have very few gripes, mostly about gameplay, but those are quite a big ones I guess.
- Dash spam. Dash spamming strats are ridiculously easy to build and play, at least on moderate heat levels. Dash spamming is very forgiving and effective, i had very succesfull builds where i had litterally only space boons and ult, no m1, m2 or special boons at all and playing in such way was super easy still. There is 2 reasons why dash spam is so effective: dash cooldown is too low, i believe its around 0.5 seconds for dash reset even when you have only 1 dash, which is too low imo, it still alows spamming. In fact that cooldown is so low that I don't really need more then 2 dashes for evading unless i want to dmg or get boosts after dashes. And secondly while you perform dash strike and dash special, you don't need to wait fade out animation, like with repeatedly spamming m1s, so you can perform 2 consecutive dash attacks very fast, faster then consecutive m1s on most weapons. With some boons that are imo ill designed and facilitate dash spamming potential, like ones that give you insane speed boos and sturdy after dash, or give very substantial ligtning dmg on near miss, or return half of lost hp after dash; all those make mindless spamming much more effective than planned dash usage. Return half of lost hp after dash is a very definition of badly designed perk imo, because it rewards bad plays, why bother with timing your dashes correctly when you get rewarded if you mistime them?
I really feel that increasing dash cooldown for at least 2 seconds would solve many of the problems descibed and would also require some wasd skills to avoid AOEs instead of just dash spam.
autumn rose
i wasn't sure where to put my feedback, cause there is no dedicated feedback channel :/
brisk trail
Ya that fits very well in hades discussion
autumn rose
ok, i'll leave it here
rose nexus
i dash spam constantly , especially with poseidon boons
its like muscle memory with a controller
brisk trail
I find that dash spamming is definitely a valid strategy for dps but it can be hard to control my self doing that so I take damage pretty often
But often yes, dash spamming is the best way to get top dps
quaint hatch
You can do both at the the same time
rose nexus
zig zag
rough token
the main drawback to dash attacking is that you lose your i-frames once you attack
quaint hatch
But athena covers that
rose nexus
with the reflect ?
rose nexus
its like the #1 thing i need a lot of the time
winter river
i wasn't sure where to put my feedback, cause there is no dedicated feedback channel :/
@autumn rose There used to be during early access but I think they're closing it until when if they decide to make a DLC or other major update, which they've not made any indication they'll do as of yet.
rose nexus
i will hand them my entire wallet whenever they decide to do something
autumn rose
- Shields that give permanent 100% block on frontal attacks and even some AOEs. This leads to even more stupid gameplay imo. Constand bull rush spam has almost no drawbacks as of now. Its very annoying mechanic both on enemies and your own weapon. I wouldn't mind it as much on enemies, but aegis gameplay becomes just silly: permanently charge bull rushes, it blocks everything while charging, and even while you already charging, if you see unblockable AOE under yourself, just release rush and you'll slide right out of it. Silliest part that you can block stuff that even appears unblockable in game: saws, large aoe attacks, death rays, etc. At least make those attacks dmg you while you charge or slide, that would seem fair to me.
rough token
at this point, they might follow posted feedback but their focus is on finishing up the game polish
autumn rose
w8, you mean they aren't going to change anything anymore? : O
quiet gull
Development has finished, yes
brisk trail
They'll probably do more small updates to balance the game but that's about it
quiet gull
But some balance changes still come through
hard pier
It's a 1.0 release, there won't be any substantial changes after that
rose nexus
i use to spam bull rush when i first started playing , but my gameplay has changed a lot since then
quaint hatch
It's 180°
rough token
ish, you can still be hit from a front angle
quiet gull
The problem with bull rush spam is that usually means you're not doing optimal DPS, which starts to hurt more as you climb heat. Still a great tool to have, but definitely not something that "solves" the game
rough token
if it's from outside of the width
autumn rose
i'm talking about moderate heat plays as i described above
autumn rose
i didn't yet beat game with 32, so i would know how to do that
quiet gull
How do you feel about Eris rail, m8
quaint hatch
Other playstyles yield more fps
hard pier
optimal DPS
Not really something I care about so far
quaint hatch
With shield
rose nexus
the most heat ive done is 5 x,D im the slowest gamer on the planet but i soak it all up like a sponge so i remember everything
autumn rose
i don't really think that optimizing game for high heat gameplay is a way to go, since its single player game, and most people wouldn't play on those difficulties anyway.
quiet gull
I have a hard time thinking shield is too powerful given everything else going on
If anything I wish they'd buff spear more
hard pier
It depends on the aspects, I'd say
rose nexus
spear with zeus buffs is 😳
quaint hatch
i don't really think, that optimizing game for high heat gameplay is a way to go, since its single player game, and most people wouldn't play on those difficulties anyway.
@autumn rose that's literally the end game
That's the only time where optimization matters
rough token
they try to balance it for both, ime
quaint hatch
As you can see a lot do also
dark scroll
There are games where only 1% of all the players reach lvl 99. Then you won't 'optimise' for that.
That would be silly.
autumn rose
that's literally the end game That's the only time where optimization matters
so you propose that dash spamming 80% of gameplay time, up untill you climb to highest heat gauges is a good game design?
hard pier
I'm having trouble imagining that I'd do great with the shield under time pressure. Hera bow is one fast beast, but the shield? Yeah I'll have problems
dark scroll
Chaos can be fast.
quaint hatch
@autumn rose that's literally the end game That's the only time where optimization matters
so you propose that dash spamming 80% of gameplay time, up untill you climb to highest heat gauges is a good game design?
@autumn rose in gungeon you also dash spam
rough token
and Gungeon is a completely different game
hard pier
Nono, it's rolling
quaint hatch
That's the joke
hard pier
quaint hatch
Honestly I see no need to nerf things rn
Dash and attack is the core gameplay
Maybe some buffs to make stuff even and maybe take the damage away from athena dash
hard pier
The fun begins if you try to make cast your main damage
quaint hatch
It's a singleplayer game
Who forces you to take the op stuff?
quaint hatch
Same argument
autumn rose
lets be realistic here, now everyone is going to beat this game 100%, in fact most people may stop somewhere after end titles, cause gameplay is kinda repetitive, you gotta be a fan to play on high heat
hard pier
Mentioning Athena, I'll have to try the Athena and Ares duo
quaint hatch
That's not the point trying to make rn
I'm trying to go on your singleplayer route
Since we seem to have differing opinions on the heat thing
autumn rose
It's a singleplayer game Who forces you to take the op stuff?
How do you propose me to not spam dash? Only way i can imagine is just playing ranged weapons, cause otherwise what should i do, intentionally wait 2 seconds after my dashes each time?
hard pier
I wouldn't agree with that point. From my understanding there ||is something akin to a new story|| after you saw the credits. Not that I'd know. But I love the story here and I'll stickaround for that
It's a singleplayer game Who forces you to take the op stuff?
How do you propose me to not spam dash? Only way i can imagine is just playing ranged weapons, cause otherwise what should i do, intentionally wait 2 seconds after my dashes each time?
@autumn rose okay he's said nothing of the sort
quaint hatch
It's a singleplayer game Who forces you to take the op stuff?
How do you propose me to not spam dash? Only way i can imagine is just playing ranged weapons, cause otherwise what should i do, intentionally wait 2 seconds after my dashes each time?
@autumn rose that's literally the core gameplay loop
quiet gull
Spamming dash is definitely the intended behaviour
quaint hatch
You have your attacks and your dash
Your dash is the means for mobility and evasion
hard pier
Just watch the devs play, it's intended
quaint hatch
What are you arguing lol
hard pier
The only ones that don't spam it are speed runners going for merciful end
autumn rose
Your dash is the means for mobility and evasion
but you don't need to time it if you spam it, see?
that's a problem
rose nexus
Your dash is the means for mobility and evasion
but you don't need to time it if you spam it, see?
@autumn rose you can though
quaint hatch
Neither do you have to in most games
rose nexus
when im spam dashing, im still thinking of traps and stuff
quiet gull
I think you'd enjoy Transistor a lot if you think dash spamming is bad
rough token
it reaches a point, yes at a bit higher difficulty, where spamming dash will kill you
rose nexus
especially in elysium
hard pier
If you don't like the spam so much, just take the... What was the mirror upgrade? The alternative to the second dash?
That should solve your problems
quaint hatch
If you hate the core gameplay that's on you
autumn rose
If you don't like the spam so much, just take the... What was the mirror upgrade? The alternative to the second dash? That should solve your problems
not really, I argue that cooldown even on single dash is too low
quaint hatch
Also regarding the ranged weapon thing, if you read here long enough, even in new player channel there's weapons for everyone
Some even hate the ranged ones
Don't assume from yourself to every other person
quiet gull
it's okay to not like the game, man, but understand that your opinion is of an extreme minority
quaint hatch
Why do you need a dash cooldown?
Your pretty immobile otherwise
dark scroll
This chat is boring and is now about Unicorns.
hard pier
Zag sword gang
quaint hatch
It's how the game is designed
autumn rose
i don't assume anything i'm descibing my impressions, and leave it a feedback :/
quaint hatch
Can we switch topic?
hard pier
@dark scroll pink fluffy unicorns
rose nexus
This chat is boring and is now about Unicorns.
@dark scroll can we talk about bouldy
quaint hatch
rose nexus
quiet gull
i don't assume anything i'm descibing my impressions, and leave it a feedback :/
@autumn rose Trust me dude, go play Transistor
quaint hatch
You fill my heart with joy
autumn rose
i played transistor already
rose nexus
quaint hatch
@autumn rose sry dude I don't mean to bash you
autumn rose
didn't like at as much really
dark scroll
Hmmm I dunno, talking about the end boss of the game is considered to be a bit spoilery but ok.... lets talk about Bouldy.
hard pier
It's on my switch wishlist
dark scroll
@hard pier 20% discount at the moment.
quaint hatch
Isn't bouldy hella T H I C C?
rose nexus
once cross saves is a thing /hopefully/ , im gonan get it
dark scroll
Oh transistor?
quaint hatch
Oh common
dark scroll
Nvm.
quaint hatch
At least tag that
hard pier
Ah yes I bought Hades on sale like... 1 and a half weeks ago
Gonna use it to bridge time till the new Hyrule Warriors comes out, but that's off-topic
dark scroll
Read a bunch of comments that the performance of the new game is pretty meh. Lots of laggy/pop in stuff.
rose nexus
i bought it and then like 4 days later it went on sale, but i wasnt even mad bc i love it so much
dark scroll
There's demo I suppose.
spare ridge
i’ve played the demo and the gameplay’s pretty much the same from hyrule warriors outside runes and divine beasts and such
dark scroll
Bought it on evil EGS for 5,63 or so. Then on Switch.
spare ridge
haven’t used divine beasts (didn’t get far in the demo so i don’t know if they’re even in it) but hey seem pretty similar to that beast ganon dlc they had going on
for uhh Hyrule Warriors
hard pier
You only get to play in the Hyrule Fields and a few shrines, the whole champion stuff is only in the full game
rough token
(there is #video-games if you want to talk about Hyrule Warriors)
spare ridge
oh yeah sorry
spare ridge
kinda forgot this is big lads
hard pier
I dunno, is it a spoiler?
dark scroll
ehhh technically?
hard pier
It's just some random convo that pops up, ain't it
rough token
it's a bit of a spoiler, just because it takes a bit of time to get to
dark scroll
not really but yea?
rough token
and it's fun for people to discover on their own
cedar remnant
That's actual mythology
rough token
which is reason enough to tag it
hard pier
Lernie isn't a spoiler tho
quaint hatch
That's actual mythology
@cedar remnant yeah
rose nexus
hard pier
Lernie best bone snek
quaint hatch
Pre modern greece transition
rough token
we're discussing it in #h1-story-discussion actually
rose nexus
i will make a lernie plushie if its the last thing i do
quaint hatch
Please make me a bouldy plushie
rose nexus
you will be the only one 2 get one
cedar remnant
but technically not really because in real mythology Zag is Zeus and Persephone's Son
I'd buy a bouldy plushie
quaint hatch
you will be the only one 2 get one
@rose nexus
rough token
SGG has taken certain liberties from the original mythos
and there are multiple versions of Zagreus' myth
quaint hatch
Well technically not a lot about zag is known
cedar remnant
It's cool the locations are similar to how they were meant to be
quaint hatch
Or not as concrete
dark scroll
Thats what she said.
hard pier
Make Chaos plush. With all the degenerated faces and flowery crystals and all
Would be cool
Is there Chaos fanart somewhere
rough token
tons
carmine zodiac
Zag is 5'11" and everyone else is 6'0"
rough token
#fan-works among other places
rose nexus
i wonder if zag eats his vegetables
quaint hatch
Zag is 5'11" and everyone else is 6'0"
@carmine zodiac I dunno how tall that is
Since I use the metric system like a normal human being
carmine zodiac
It's a meme
cedar remnant
those pomegranates look rather metallic
quaint hatch
Ik
hard pier
quaint hatch
Just wanted to crap on everything that's not metric system
hard pier
I'll have to get some more pomegranates, actually. Wanted to make some pomegranate juice
quaint hatch
Or you buy pomegranate juice
cedar remnant
yum
hard pier
Nono
There's magic in making it yourself
It's why I also cook for myself
It's fun
Though you're right, just buying it would be considerably cheaper
quaint hatch
Cooking is the best
rose nexus
I'll have to get some more pomegranates, actually. Wanted to make some pomegranate juice
@hard pier i tried to eat one the other day and it exploded all over my shirt
quaint hatch
But making juice is a waste if ressources and time
hard pier
Wha
carmine zodiac
Making juice ends up wasting a lot of perfectly good fruit
quaint hatch
And decent gadgets/machines for that aren't cheap
hard pier
Okay okay I get it
quaint hatch
I'd imagine its quite hard making pomegranate juice yourself
rose nexus
carmine zodiac
I'd smash zagreus
hard pier
No pome juice then
rough token
zagreus for smash
@rose nexus it's been proposed and designed by fans
quaint hatch
Since the seeds yk
rose nexus
@rose nexus it's been proposed and designed by fans
@rough token id cry for zag in smash
hard pier
Still, some pomegranates would be tasty
rough token
I believe people have posted their Zag builds in #fan-works
rose nexus
I'd smash zagreus
@carmine zodiac as long as he doesnt manhandle things
carmine zodiac
Tbh the hades characters feel more guilty gear than smash to me
cosmic stone
It would by Byleth but way cooler
hard pier
I never buy the fighters passes so I don't care
I've already spent 60 bucks, they won't get more
spare sparrow
Any word on Switch-Steam crosssaves?
dark scroll
Soonish.
hard pier
Soon
quaint hatch
agile lichen
Hey ik this is random but I was wondering if there was any advice or tactic to beat 32 heat, I'm having a little trouble
rough token
@spare sparrow plan is soon, they had some extra delays
@agile lichen #h1-high-heat-strategies
I'd ask there ^.^
dark scroll
Do they still make new fighters for smash? I mean they would have to start from scratch dev wise.
quiet gull
Hey ik this is random but I was wondering if there was any advice or tactic to beat 32 heat, I'm having a little trouble
@agile lichen Don't get hit
Dont do RI
agile lichen
I'd ask there ^.^
@rough token thank you
hard pier
@dark scroll I'll just say Steve
spare sparrow
ty
rough token
Sure thing 
quaint hatch
There's a whole new fighters pass m8
dark scroll
For fighters who are prob already finished in some way or completely.
Zag prob isn't on their radar at all.
quaint hatch
I was so disappointed when I saw steve
hard pier
It's why I rarely play smash
carmine zodiac
Okay how tf do you guys play this game so much
hard pier
Like 60 bucks thrown out the window
quaint hatch
I can recommend roof rage
rose nexus
Okay how tf do you guys play this game so much
@carmine zodiac wat game
hard pier
Only play it when buddies are at my place, but we're off topic again
sly prairie
addiction
carmine zodiac
Like I enjoy hades but I think I got bored somewhere in the teens of heat level
quaint hatch
Very fun and different version of smash
rose nexus
Like 60 bucks thrown out the window
@hard pier ive played since game cube so,,
hard pier
I'm just not a guy for competitive fighting games xD
dark scroll
Same on Switch.
carmine zodiac
Extreme measures is the only heat modification that makes a particularly interesting change to the game experience
dark scroll
Another 170 on pc.
hard pier
Platinum Games productions are more my thing
dark scroll
Most pre act 4 aswell.
hard pier
Those blue hearts also change things up
dark scroll
40% speed makes quite a big difference. ;p
I spend 5 minutes in Erberus with 5-15 skull guys flying after me.
All with 5 hearts.
cosmic stone
40% speed on the final boss messes me up
hard pier
I spend 5 minutes in Erberus with 5-15 skull guys flying after me.
@dark scroll imagine that on a tight deadline
dark scroll
Speedrunners won't go in there ofc. ;p
hard pier
I still have to kill ||Charon||, just to see what happens. So far he's obliterated me
I know what you get ofc
dark scroll
X is not that difficult really. It's mostly if you face X the first chance you prob only have 2-3 boons.
So you really want it to happen act 2/3 mid.
hard pier
I'm aiming to face him around ||Elysium||
cosmic stone
I can beat him in first area without losing a death defiance
Since I’m built different
hard pier
Propably with Hera, just to make sure
dark scroll
And if you face x for the 2nd time, be sure you can take X.
cosmic stone
I did it using ||Beowulf||
dark scroll
Well shield. ;p
hard pier
I'm way too stressed while I've got the ||timer heat|| on. Even tho level 1 is rather generous, I just play a lot more aggressively
dark scroll
Always wished they'd introduce a shieldblock bar or so. I've done a survice 45 sec room with just standing in the corner charging the rush. ;p
rose nexus
the timer oof
dark scroll
Just saw the Hermes Cup speedrunners.
14-17 min runs each time.
depending on weapons.
hard pier
Interestingly enough, I've been doing better ever since I've switched to that way more aggressive playstyle
quaint hatch
Welcome lol
hard pier
By best run was 21 minutes
quaint hatch
Every weapon is a melee weapon
heavy breach
With my aim, every weapon is a melee weapon
hard pier
Still havent beaten the game with ||exagryph|| even tho I have the "op" aspect
It really isn't for me, somehow
heavy breach
||exagryph|| is weird man
quaint hatch
It's only weird if you play on controller and don't have your reload on L
heavy breach
I much prefer the playstyle you have with the ||fists|| or sword
Game feels a lot more "zigzaggy" that way
hard pier
If I get frustrated with myself I just bust out the Hera bow with Dionysus for a feelgood run
sly prairie
I really love the ||rail||
It's my favorite of them, as you can see in the victory I just posted lol
heavy breach
idk dude
hard pier
Personal Preference
heavy breach
With the ||gun||, game feels slower somehow
I kill things slower, I don't have to dodge as often as with a melee weapon
quaint hatch
Play eris with rockets
dark scroll
Mostly yea, though Eris is the aspect with the fastest speedrunners time i think
quaint hatch
That's the fastest the game will feel lol
sly prairie
I always dodge a lot, even with melee stuff
heavy breach
Oof, rockets are extremely pog yeah
sly prairie
I haven't gotten sub-20 yet
cosmic stone
I did it using Achilles spear bc I built differently
hard pier
Ugh, streamer slang
heavy breach
||gun|| special is super cool, don't get me wrong, but you press the button and the damage doesn't come until a solid 2 seconds later
weirdchamp
hard pier
That's what the rocket hammer is for
quaint hatch
My best is only 18 unfortunately
heavy breach
ye, but can't rely on it y'know
sly prairie
Well I'm not a cuber myself but I do hang out with a lot of them so sub-[number] is a common term for me
heavy breach
sub 20, one of these days
sly prairie
Not just streamers 🙂
hard pier
I meant pog, but ok
heavy breach
imagine saying pog to pidge irl
pearl fractal
I need help with understanding how bounties work
Because sometimes I get Titan's Blood and sometimes I don't?
heavy breach
@pearl fractal ||you know that contract thing at when you start a run?||
hard pier
||You get blood whenever you beat Tartarus for the first time with a particular weapon||
quiet gull
If you cleared the game at heat 1, then turn it up to heat 20, you still only get the bounties for heat level 2
pearl fractal
@pearl fractal ||you know that contract thing at when you start a run?||
@heavy breach ||Do you mean the Pact of Punishment? Because I haven't unlocked that yet||
quiet gull
And you wont get bounties for heat level 3 until you FINISH the bounties for heat level 2
regardless of what level you ACTUALLY have it set to
So you cant farm the furies TB at each heat level
Cause you gotta beat the game first
pearl fractal
Oh welp
quiet gull
Oh, you havent finished the game yet?
dark scroll
For each weapon.
quiet gull
Yeah, bounties are for each weapon
dark scroll
Seperatly.
heavy breach
imagine if bounties were RNG
brisk trail
Stop
hard pier
They aren't
Beating redacted or Tartarus with a weapon for the first time gives you blood, repeating throughout the giher difficulties
brisk trail
That's what the funny checbox is for on the map
pearl fractal
That's what the funny checbox is for on the map
@brisk trail Yeah I noticed that during those short little inbetween-level sections
pearl fractal
I haven't tried Hell Mode so I can't really say for sure
languid wing
Hell mode is harder, technically
cosmic stone
Nope since you can farm Titan blood early game
quaint hatch
You can never farm bounties
"farm"
Well broker ik
But that's horribly inefficient
pearl fractal
Anyways what're y'all's opinion of Aspect of Poseidon for the Stygian Blade
languid wing
I mean you only get to alter that if you beat || hades || regardless
quaint hatch
Very nice
cosmic stone
You get Titan blood on sword heat 1 get Titan blood again then move on to the next weapon
heavy breach
Poseidon sword fun
cosmic stone
You literally only need to beat Meg
heavy breach
Needs a good cast boon to be worth it of course, which is a big knock for me
languid wing
Yeah but it is technically harder than usual
pearl fractal
Well broker ik
@quaint hatch I only ever do business with the Broker if I want nectar to simp to a character lmao
languid wing
You can say it’s faster but not easier
cosmic stone
Well it’s not like you NEED to turn up the heat
So it’s more beneficial then harder
languid wing
You are forced to heat 5 on the get go
heavy breach
also, 5 heat is pretty alright
pearl fractal
Turning up the heat let's you reap in higher rewards during play right?
heavy breach
even without all of the mirror stuff
Nope, not if you turn it up more than necessary
quaint hatch
It's not more beneficial lol
heavy breach
The only thing heat does for reward is let you get the bounties with each weapon again
cosmic stone
Wait rlly?
languid wing
Yeah. You can’t farm bounties
quaint hatch
Grinding out bounties on low heat will just burn you out on the game faster
As I said
quiet gull
Going higher than necessary isnt more beneficial, no
cosmic stone
Well I wasn’t told that I thought the hell mode ||pact of punishment|| was optional
quiet gull
I did it thought cause I didnt want to turn EM4 off
pearl fractal
Farming in a game like Hades sounds like it could be really repetitive imo
cosmic stone
I thought you could avoid the ||pact|| in it
quiet gull
Well I wasn’t told that I thought the hell mode ||pact of punishment|| was optional
@cosmic stone It isnt
quaint hatch
Why would the whole pact change with hell mode
pearl fractal
I mean farming in any game is repetitive lmao
quaint hatch
It's the base of the game
languid wing
It isn’t. It’s forced with arguably some of the worst heat options
heavy breach
oh, you can't even pick the options?
quaint hatch
Yeah but farming in other games should usually yield more beneficial rewards
cosmic stone
Oh god do you have to start the game with hard labour??
languid wing
Yeah you are locked out on 5 heat with predetermined options
Yeah and the one that reduces healing
cosmic stone
That would make early meg fight a lot harder for newbies
heavy breach
that's a bit oof
cosmic stone
Oh god it picks the worst ones
languid wing
And they do more dmg
languid wing
No invulnerability timer
languid wing
Normal zagreus has an invulnerability timer in between high bursts of dmg
cosmic stone
So you’re telling me the game does: More damage for enemies less healing for you more health for enemies and invulnerability timber
Timer*
languid wing
Yes
heavy breach
that's fair enough, if you're playing Hell mode, you hopefully shouldn't need the I-frames
languid wing
Iirc there’s one more but I forgot
cosmic stone
Bleugh
heavy breach
God mode is good
cosmic stone
The only god mode id accept is trying to get the 3rd Skelly trophy but even that
heavy breach
Does God mode only affect the contract?
cosmic stone
It affects the whole game
Bruh if you can’t beat the game without god mode idk what to say
quaint wind
no need to be rude
players play in the way that suits them and there's nothing wrong with that
cosmic stone
Okay I apologise
quiet gull
Quite a few people have come here with god mode over 50% and trouble beating the game
quaint wind
thanks
heavy breach
ok, I looked it up and Hell mode only affects the contract
quaint hatch
Don't bash on god mode
No shame in using that
No elitism here
We all want to just have fun and enjoy the game
heavy breach
cosmic stone
quaint wind
heavy breach
next person to bouldy emote is stinky
dark scroll
I'd have a problem with godmode if you turn it on after dieing 1-5 times.
languid wing
Imagine if they added an achievement where you have to defeat the game on hell mode in your first run with zagreus
brisk trail
I will be elitist against those who don't pet the dog evrytime
dark scroll
Ofc, he's a good boy.
quaint hatch
Well that makes sense
cosmic stone
How is the petting dog 15 times achievement so rare?
tepid plover
Cause people are mean
cosmic stone
Like more people have escaped ||Elysium|| then petted the dog 15 times
faint flume
people are terrible
I have given the dog hard liquor but better too many times probably
faint flume
Cerb, absolutely Z O I N K E D
heavy breach
lesser, greater, evil is evil
heavy breach
quaint hatch
I don't want to
tribal willow
the animation takes too long
ornate summit
Is there even anything in-game behind petting Cerberus enough times?
heavy breach
somebody's going straight to tartarus
tepid plover
Such hatred
heavy breach
if you don't pet the dog enough you get the bad ending /s
tribal willow
spoiler question
quaint hatch
the animation takes too long
@tribal willow honestly Frick you
ornate summit
Probably dialogue/final affection actually
tribal willow
how much is there left to do after
quaint hatch
Take your time