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#h1-discussion
deep geyser
Aspect of Charon spear
carmine ravine
i mean ||hades|| isnt ganon
deep geyser
||Hades:|| Is that... an Oar?|
Zagreus: Yes it is
carmine ravine
i dont recall charons weapon again
cloud apex
||Aspect of Arthur|| is jealous of such range and power
carmine ravine
this is christian server, no cursing
eager vortex
this is christian server, no cursing
I have made a severe lapse of my judgement
cloud apex
probably, probably not. Not the biggest matter anyway
sharp fossil
“the hell” is just a general statement of fact around here
eager vortex
lmfao yes
probably, probably not. Not the biggest matter anyway
I appreciate the vagueness and all
but tell me
carmine ravine
e x c u s e m e, u m e an " t h e h e c k"
eager vortex
oh no
@sharp fossil change that message before you get struck down by jesus christ himself
eager vortex
ok guys im freaking out I actually may or may not have talked to the crabbar
carmine ravine
i think i heard of crabbar from a terraria server
eager vortex
yes its him
carmine ravine
not much then
eager vortex
hes in the terraria server
carmine ravine
already left that place long ago
carmine ravine
its too much a safespace per se, just dont like the vibe
eager vortex
fair enough
I played a ton of jack box games with the mods
I once made a hitler joke and proceeded to get struck down by the admins
carmine ravine
since u know most ppl in that server is literal children
eager vortex
Im going off topic mb
since u know most ppl in that server is literal children
yea true
some of em are cool tho
fierce belfry
||so to get aspect of guan yu, i just upgrade the spear with 6 titan blood right?||
deep geyser
Yeah you do I think Shank
eager vortex
wait is that the secret aspect?
fierce belfry
yea
deep geyser
Yes
fierce belfry
ok ok
sharp fossil
@fierce belfry ||for GY, you need to unlock 5 different weapon aspects||
eager vortex
man, i feel so good that i beat the game
like the true ending?
or literally just beating up redacted once
fierce belfry
like the true ending?
@eager vortex nah hades
sharp fossil
it’s an exception to the usual rule
fierce belfry
oh.
eager vortex
@eager vortex nah hades
damn gg
fierce belfry
have you?
fierce belfry
nice
sharp fossil
info for hidden aspect unlocks is in the sticky in #h1-story-discussion for future reference
fierce belfry
o
eager vortex
also sidenote
I can always manage to kill redacted with a bow
but never with any of the other weapons
Ive tried almost all aspects, no luck
I suppose im bad at builds
sharp fossil
np
fierce belfry
weird
sharp fossil
lmao
deep geyser
I'm going to fight him soon with the Hera bow and Dio cast so I think ive got a shot lol\
As well as Doom on attacks and lighting in festive fog
sharp fossil
i mean yeah if it’s builds you’re looking for the folks in #h1-builds-and-combat are massive nerds real good at this game
eager vortex
I just use the homing aspect
and load up on chaos boons that upgrade special
also thanks for the suggestion ohokwy
fierce belfry
idk why but i fisted my way out
eager vortex
gonna look there
fierce belfry
or how
eager vortex
idk why but i fisted my way out
0_0
you fisted.
redacted
thats wrong
on so many levels
fierce belfry
o.0
eager vortex
wait are you talking about the gloves crap
eager vortex
I have a weird mindset lmao
fierce belfry
chaos shield almost maxxxx
sharp fossil
tho that’s ludicrously subjective ofc
obtuse zephyr
they have the best feel of all the weapons imo
@sharp fossil idk, I only got the hang of them with magnet hands
fierce belfry
gilgamesh looks weird
plucky hazel
Do the extra shields from Chaos aspect proc Lightning from zeus, knock from poseidon etc?
sharp fossil
absolutely
fierce belfry
?
obtuse zephyr
Yes
sharp fossil
For zeus it’s a bit weird, as there’s a CD for multiple lightning strikes hitting the same opponent, and if you shotgun all your shields in at point blank range you can hit the cap
and get less lightning than you aspect
Thunder flourish is still solid on chaos tho
sharp fossil
you gotta have ||at least five non zagreus aspects unlocked, and have fought hades||
fierce belfry
oh
sharp fossil
||then at some point you’ll get a convo with achilles that will unlock it ||
sharp fossil
i think it used to work like that, but they changed it
fierce belfry
o
robust sundial
poseidon flourish zith the boz is just so good
fierce belfry
i hate needing to beat hades again for more rewards
buttt tight deadline
makes it easy
gaunt ridge
plucky sail
Don't worry bro you'll get the flow of it soon
old valve
quite a time limited statement :p Try it before the current testing branch gets in
obtuse zephyr
What do you mean?
old valve
it's getting some adjustments, won't be busted for much longer
obtuse zephyr
Reduced special damage? That change?
old valve
yeah, it feels quite different. Still nice playstyle, just.. well, not busted :p
fierce belfry
oop
floral merlin
anyone heard any specifics on steam-switch cross save release date? I have 60 hours on steam early access, and bought the switch version day 1, patiently waiting to be able to play in my living room, instead of this dang office computer 🙂
fierce belfry
is there like anyway to farm keys fast
woven cipher
Let's say I got 4 god boons on first biome, and force a 5th one in the next biome. Will I keep getting 5th god's boon, or not?
woven cipher
Keepaake
zenith crown
What's Slicing Flare I can't find it in the boons list?
fierce belfry
its just the cast
fathom tinsel
It’s a cast variant for the shield hidden aspect
zenith crown
Okay. Thanks.
brisk trail
Hello
fierce belfry
hi
brisk trail
where can I put suggestions?
brisk trail
it says i dont have permission
fierce belfry
you gotta dm them right?
void vigil
that channel is for q&a, its currently closed
fierce belfry
ohhhhh
lament blade
Hiya folks, I have a question that I'm sure SGG have answered a million times so I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction:
Has there been talk of retroactively claiming ('cashing in') achievements for Hades across Epic/Steam/Xbox (if it happens) using cross saves? A pal wants to play Hades but is so hooked on Xbox Gamer score they're hoping to play it now elsewhere but get the Gamerscore later. Thanks!
unkempt herald
Yo question here. What does it do when you have maximum bond with a character and have the chibi head and all that ?
old valve
nothing, it's its own reward 🙂
unkempt herald
Ok perfect :) Thanks !
thorny umbra
I don't know where its relevant but Honest games trailers did Hades
quaint hatch
Uuh nifty
bright lance
I did not realize until just now (30 runs in) that pom stands for pomegranate
mystic holly
Lol
quaint hatch
I'm on more than double
And you just told me xd
mystic holly
It took me a while to remember the significance of pomegranates in Greek mythos.
jade crescent
holy wow, I'm never running trap damage again, lost a DD in tartarus
figured it could help me learn to avoid traps but it's not worth
quaint hatch
I love forgetting I'm standing in lava
jade crescent
mainly spike traps lying around everywhere
brisk trail
it's even more fun in the [redacted] fight
jade crescent
yiiiiiiikes those vases
I really like the anti-trap athena boon specifically for those
woven cipher
I got some blood to invest in weapons, what's the best bow aspect?
quaint hatch
Elysium traps are surprisingly easy for being everywhere
woven cipher
Hera for cast based build? Wouldn't you just use Poseidon sword for that?
Unless I'm misunderstanding how it's played
jade crescent
nah hera and 4th shield > poseidon
poseidon is best with artemis exit wounds, but the other two are really strong with dio or aphro cast
jade crescent
that too^
woven cipher
Ahhh makes sense, I've been using Poseidon with exit wounds
Thank you, this is very informative :)
still marsh
Hey, ||How do i reunite orpheus and euridyce||
jade crescent
max out ||those two and nyx nectar||
quaint hatch
Rng dialogue
still marsh
ah thanks my mahn
quaint hatch
But that'll happen with runs
I had that prophecy 45 runs ago and I'm just now starting to fulfill it cause rng
still marsh
Im doing a Lucifer Zeus attack run, did they nerf it, feels like it?
ahh
same
got it
a year ago
maybe
quaint hatch
Same with sysiphus
And achilles
Game doesn't like me lol
I don't think they did
still marsh
Same haha
woven cipher
achilles isn't RNG, I believe it's dependent on completion of orpheus quest
still marsh
No, ive gotten achilles
quaint hatch
I have sys completed tho
still marsh
and not orpheus
jade crescent
jeez EM2 with bonus trap damage and a melee weapon 😳
still marsh
EM2?
jade crescent
extreme measures
jade crescent
nah, but there's lava everywhere and lava counts as traps
jade crescent
yup, even less room
still marsh
Heck yeah, concentrated beam
jade crescent
100+ damage from styx axes!!!!
jade crescent
bruh
still marsh
welp, good luck
jade crescent
thx, I've pretty much accepted this run is a progression run rather than completion, running EM4 as well
sweet basin
prime fox
jade crescent
OH I DID IT
I'm never running trap damage again
also shield is sooooo strong for taking boss encounters slow and safe
digital shore
are there any references for Hypnos like the Zagreus's one? (this: https://twitter.com/0jenzee0/status/1144354281148960768?s=20) or somewhat similar
quaint hatch
@prime fox spoiler tag by || on both sides of what your posting
brisk trail
Hypnos is the most underrated character in the game.
quaint hatch
Hypnos spin off game aka the wake up timer
brisk trail
Hypnos is baby
quaint hatch
Man you jump from characters to romance like it's going out of fashion
Dyonisus wine really did you dirty
brisk trail
Don’t you just want to cuddle the baby
digital shore
It’s a shame we can’t romance him or make him our best friend.
@brisk trail omg righttt I ship Zag and Hyp so much 🥺
brisk trail
Hypnos > Thanatos
stiff jetty
Do you really only get some ||sweet sweet Meg action exactly one time? It never repeats?||
stiff jetty
I'm 50 clears deep. Got that particular encounter at like run 30 i want to say...everytime I ||enter the bedroom|| my hope rises and is dashed.
brisk trail
Ya I don’t know how many times it happens
quaint hatch
2 I think
quaint hatch
Eh I'm more of a bouldy guy
digital shore
Hypnos > Thanatos
@brisk trail honestly ||I'd do sth like Zag x Hyp x Than, but I'm weird 😂 || and also when you gift nectar to Hypnos for the last time i think ||Zag says that he died every time just to see Hypnos|| I'm too soft 🥺
digital shore
well 🤷
quaint hatch
Zag x Bouldy fite me
brisk trail
Do I get anything by repeatedly giving Hypnos nectar?
jade crescent
nope
digital shore
that won't stop me, but I respect others opinions 😂
brisk trail
Shame
brisk trail
I want to give him Nectar but a the same time I want something in return
We need Hypnos DLC
quaint hatch
You get his love
Or something
brisk trail
I would pay for Hypnos DLC
quaint hatch
Helios dlc
brisk trail
I’ll straight up drop another $25 for Hypnos related DLC
slender linden
Hypnos sleepy cuddles simulator is the dream honestly
brisk trail
At first I didn’t like Hypnos but after a few runs I grew to like him
slender linden
should be a thing, you enter the lobby, you pet the dog, you hug your friends
digital shore
I fell for Hypnos when I heard his "I'm up, I'm up"
quaint hatch
You pet hypnos
brisk trail
digital shore
🥺
quaint hatch
He wants to sleep
slender linden
he looks so cozy in his floating blanket
quaint hatch
It's literally his entire point
digital shore
🥺
tight trail
|| so managed to beat "ultimate" hades for the first time and wanted to know how his heals works. do i have to kill the urns or is this something you can't prevent? saw those green 1500 health ticks ||
brisk trail
Spoiler tag that
Some people don’t know who the final boss is yet
Put || before and after the text
tight trail
oh sorry
carmine basin
Yo what's this 600mb patch that I'm installing right now?
I don't see anything on steam or in the patch notes discord
carmine basin
Literally just went up
still shard
we got patch notes boys and girls
harsh quail
PATCH NOTESSSSS
quaint hatch
They would announce something major
brisk trail
quiet gull
Huge Catch (Poseidon): Conch Shell Keepsake now works as a prerequisite for this to be offered
POGGERS
storm coyote
"Adjusted animation and presentation after a successful escape attempt after the true ending"
wintry spindle
they made the only worthwhile thing to do with the bow bad :(
storm coyote
HMMMMM
frozen spire
chiron aspect with poseidon special is gonna be even more silly
wide helm
LETS GOOOOO
- Adjusted animation and presentation after a successful escape attempt after the true ending
quaint hatch
Lowered initial power but same power after upgrades
mint hawk
are we gonna get the prophecy if we've already reached the epilogue?
storm coyote
gimme cottage
thick furnace
new patch notes make me excited for a replay
harsh quail
the sundial! FINALLY!!!!
mint hawk
are we gonna get the prophecy if we've already reached the epilogue?
yep, just shows up as completed in game
frozen spire
hopefully this change makes fishing spots after reaching true ending less silly
wide helm
Wait no
frozen spire
by letting us go to the gosh darn cottage
wide helm
It’s not going to enable ||Greece||
frozen spire
patch has been out for 2 minutes, has anyone checked exactly what it does yet
steep elm
patch on switch yet?
wintry spindle
nope
frozen spire
like
steep elm
or is it just pc for the moment
wide helm
Instead of ||Is there no escape?|| it shows ||bound for home||
frozen spire
they know about the fishing spots right?
brisk trail
just wanted to check for it on switch but nah
frozen spire
do they just want me to suffer, specifically?
tranquil hollow
is there a graphic anywhere that shows the different themes?
wide helm
The fishing spots move to the final arena
shell ice
I have not had any issues with endgame fishing spots
are you making sure to check ||the water around the Hades fight area||?
wintry spindle
@quaint hatch The way I read it the default bow aspect is just worse now, am I wrong on that?
steep elm
chiron buffs, aw yeah
native wave
Added more Charon voice lines for miscellaneous interactions with him
:) Hrnnnghhh
quaint hatch
@wintry spindle Bow special is less powerful but upgrades increase the power more/add more shots
verbal fjord
Charon romance option?
edgy totem
The final boss room has two possible fishing spots, maybe three?
brisk trail
Seems like a large update
visual ridge
Charon kinda cute tho
limpid karma
So looks like the patch (probably fairly) is gonna nerf the strategy that got me my first clear. RIP Volley Fire reliably doing 135+ damage at close range. 😭😭😭
maiden urchin
i’m surprised that they decided to keep chiron the same and nerf the base special
i thought it would be the opposite
steep elm
charon romance option is overplayed tbh, and he doesn't even talk
at least pick someone who can keep up a meaningful conversation, like lernie
verbal fjord
Charon finna make me act up
wintry spindle
@quaint hatch Where do you read that? Chiron is buffed to compensate but I can't see where it says that upgrades do more
native wave
yes
steep elm
(it is a joke)
verbal fjord
We can dream
still shard
Here are the bow changes hahaha
brisk trail
Oh okay I was about to go off, my boy Hypnos better come first.
steep elm
(lernie is romanceable now, though)
quaint hatch
@wintry spindle hammer upgrades
brisk trail
steep elm
oh, go yourself
narrow hemlock
I have been wishing for hypnos romance forever, I simply think you should be able to smooch sleep
wintry spindle
I already didn't like bow much
quaint hatch
It's not
You are bound to get hammers
brisk trail
My game isn’t updating? When will the update be out for Switch players?
quaint hatch
Also there's builds besides special
steep elm
i'm looking forward to the bone hydra's bone, if you catch my drift
quaint hatch
Dont
wintry spindle
"there's builds besides special"
citation needed
edgy totem
Switch patch probably has to pass cert so probably a day or more
limpid karma
Volley fire is still one of the best for spreading status conditions i guess (imo)
harsh quail
Did they change the fact that there is no reliable way to view your HP when picking a boon? The bar is always hidden, so you have to hope the menu has an HP-related boon.
iron loom
nooooooooo! a bow volley nerf
brisk trail
I was about to play, but now I want to wait for the update :/
steep elm
uh, the pop-up tells you your health
steep elm
if the boon is healing-related
iron loom
that's my favorite weapon
granite quail
Does anyone have the new stats on the bow volley
wintry spindle
it's one of my least favorite but volley is fun
iron loom
specifically the aspect of Chiron
granite quail
it used to be 9 arrows 15dmg per arrow, idk what it is now
harsh quail
@steep elm What I'm saying is, if you Don't have one of those boons, there is no consistent way to check your HP, which can be useful during timed runs
limpid karma
I think still 9 arrows but less damage
wintry spindle
it's sad
limpid karma
Hoping its 10 or higher
granite quail
what about Chiron? Anyone know how many arrows it is now (used to be 7)
steep elm
if the boons aren't healing-related, your health isn't all that relevant
high island
It's very relevant.
high island
But no, there's no change to that.
limpid karma
I agree its probably deserved but im still sad about it haha
quaint hatch
Although I hate to see my bae hit
hoary canopy
were Troves meant to be like double the size of Zag?
dire pike
It's 10 damage
steep elm
btw assuming total damage stayed the same with chiron, it's still a buff imo, at least with stuff like frost flourish (my favorite for chiron)
wintry spindle
Bow is gonna be harder to do my ||heat runs|| with now I guess
10!?
wow that sucks
dire pike
Chiron bow max level is 8 shots now
quaint hatch
Bow is very strong
dry mauve
so chiron volley is 80 damage instead of 105 pre-patch?
dire pike
Yeah Chiron volley is 80 damage now
brisk trail
I keep seeing so many people who want to romance Charon on here and Twitter 
steep elm
still 90 damage as a multihit upclose with default aspect, better than a power shot if your positioning is good
limpid karma
90+ (with boons) for a special isn't bad I guess
brisk trail
Hypnos is where it’s at
sharp sluice
romance aphrodite 🧠
wintry spindle
I mean I guess if they think so, bow never felt very strong to me. Only thing I found worth doing with it was running up to people and shotgunning them in the back and that strategy just got smacked hard
steep elm
@brisk trail like i said, charon is overplayed and generic; we need romanceable lernie
brisk trail
That’s a snake
wintry spindle
It's already the weapon I use the least now I dunno if I ever will lol
brisk trail
That’s beastality
quaint hatch
@wintry spindle you said it's not your playstyle
That explains a lot
Obviously it will feel even worse for you then
Bow feels like free clear for me so far
bitter valve
If you are not using chiron you don't really want to use your special often
if at all
granite quail
Chiron especially is brainless
wintry spindle
I only ever do special builds with it
quaint hatch
I just hope it'll still stay powerful
lament blade
Hiya folks, I have a question that I'm sure SGG have answered a million times so I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction:
Has there been talk of retroactively claiming ('cashing in') achievements for Hades across Epic/Steam/Xbox (if it happens) using cross saves? A pal wants to play Hades but is so hooked on Xbox Gamer score they're hoping to play it now elsewhere but get the Gamerscore later. Thanks!
@lament blade quick bump ! 😄
brisk trail
Am I the only one who doesn’t use the bow lol
quaint hatch
4th bow aspect is attack focusedy hera is attack focused
narrow hemlock
bow is sexy
quaint hatch
Only chiron is special mandatory
brisk trail
I prefer the fists
quaint hatch
Bow is my fav with shield
narrow hemlock
fists are my main but bow is pretty sweet
wintry spindle
It's just such a harsh nerf
quaint hatch
Eh
narrow hemlock
I hated bow when I first got my hands on it but the other aspects are pretty fun (to me)
wintry spindle
10 damage is not a lot
quaint hatch
Contradiction?
sharp sluice
25 less dmg, you mean!!!
brisk trail
I thought this game wasn’t gonna be updated anymore I’m surprised they gave us a patch
wintry spindle
Not 25, 45
quaint hatch
Patch is different from update
brisk trail
I hope this means dlc in the near future
brisk trail
I’ll pay $25 for DLC
exotic heron
they aren't adding any major content (for the time being). They'll still do bug fixes and balance tweaks for teh immediate future
wintry spindle
I'd pay for DLC to make bow special good again
quaint hatch
Dlc is even uncertain regarding SGG's history
brisk trail
Keep in mind how well this game did though
quaint hatch
Jesus man stop it
narrow hemlock
@brisk trail points at 1) #announcements message
brisk trail
Compared to past games
quaint hatch
Special is not bad
Just because you don't like bow don't try to make statements about it's objective power
ashen prism
I thought this game wasn’t gonna be updated anymore I’m surprised they gave us a patch
@brisk trail They have been super clear that these patches are just for cleaning up bugs. If they decide to add more content, it's months to a year away cause they need to take a break.
Unless they are big sneaks, they arent CURRENTLY prepping any new content.
bitter valve
I don't see any major dlc as a possibility for hades
Supergiant plans and executes stories really well
sharp sluice
hades has the potential to have a DLC, the rough part is what you want to do, because if you got to the last bit of the story...what is left is not much to work with, specially because who do we fight and for what reason ?
quaint hatch
bitter valve
The supergiant way is to wait for the next game as always
They always do something unique and I love every single one
dire pike
It's still in the top 10 on Steam's global top sellers almost a month later
rugged fractal
Guys, one question here:
"Added a new Prophecy after the true ending, on the path to the epilogue" - would it be completed if I already past-epilogue?
I mean, do i get reward?
narrow hemlock
Should be retroactive
quiet gull
Go check the prophecy list
rugged fractal
Hm, ok, thx 🙂
undone tide
I’m pretty content with this game even if they didn’t do dlc. I definitely didn’t expect investing 100+ hrs to it. DLC would be welcome but game feels pretty complete already
jade crescent
hephaestus boons
crisp zodiac
How long will it take for the patch to hit the Switch?
undone tide
Probably when they decide to add cross saves later this month. I’m still waiting myself since I still have that Good Riddance bug
robust sundial
||what's the new prophecy from the patch notes ?||
jade crescent
do hammer upgrades only apply to the main shield for chaos?
crisp zodiac
Different hammer upgrades apply to different things.
frigid imp
do the characters look a lot less sharp for anyone else after the update?
jade nacelle
Can we stop making the legendary fishing boon harder to get?
It's already impossible.
robust sundial
patch note says you can get it with conch, tho ? 
quiet gull
It says it counts as the requirment, not that it is in addition
At least, that's how I read it
jade nacelle
It says it's a prerequisite which would imply you need it in addition to the other ones.
late plover
https://prnt.sc/uyqz69 pray for me broddas
jade nacelle
I hope so.
robust sundial
ingame says "two of the following" (sunken treasure, ocean's bounty, conch shell)
sweet heart
still no fish fix
hmm
i still have yet to catach a single rare fish and ive catched aorund 50 or more
solemn sinew
Hi, i was wondering if there was a way to get some sort of API to for example create a twitch extension to see what boons the streamer has on his current run for example?
crisp zodiac
So I'm not the only one!
sweet heart
LOL
jade crescent
blaz, have you been doing perfect catches?
jade crescent
rip lol
sweet heart
one run i had the legendary boon that inscreases fish spawn
almsot all perfect cataches
still nothing
crisp zodiac
I know that I'm doing it perfectly, but it doesn't ever count it as a perfect catch.
robust sundial
RNG...
crisp zodiac
That's not RNG. That's bugged.
scarlet ice
having a perfect catch doesn't guarantee a very rare fish
sweet heart
cool
exotic lodge
Fun game
exotic lodge
I already got to ||hades|| boss
sweet heart
spoiler
scarlet ice
@crisp zodiac how do you know the game doesn't consider your catches as perfect
exotic lodge
Oh woops
crisp zodiac
Because it has a "Perfect Catch!" banner when it's working.
exotic lodge
Oh right i also unlocked the rod thing i think
scarlet ice
oh, i didn't know it did that
exotic lodge
I havent used it yet
scarlet ice
neat
jade crescent
it doesn't always say perfect catch
crisp zodiac
I have not once seen it on my screen, and my reactions are accurate down to 0.02s or better.
jade crescent
I've gotten many legendary fish when it just says "catch"
exotic lodge
This game's style makes everything feel good imo
Even dying
I like the pool of blood
crisp zodiac
Chaos Argis was nerfed.
jade crescent
kinda sucks tbh, at least my chaos run this time. just fully upgraded it and got poseidon special
exotic lodge
Btw i saw that you can also choose some other mode which i think is harder? What does it do
jade crescent
the bonus shields don't ricochet like my hammer upgrade says increasing bounces, and the hammer that makes them do more damage and go faster during dashing also seems to do nothing for them
sweet heart
me saying that after dying mutiple times on a 32 heat run
well
thats a lowker bad
hammer
u want the one that gives buffs when special hits
and when u block
cause ur always using special
and ur always charging for the special stuff
so when ur charging u block
u get a buff
then special
hits
2 buffs
op
jade crescent
wow that is a block of text
sweet heart
lol
hades i can only play it not as much now because of the content
u just get to a point where its like
eh
crisp zodiac
@exotic lodge You mean Hell mode?
exotic lodge
I think so
crisp zodiac
crisp zodiac
I mean, yeah. That's what hard modes do.
exotic lodge
I am a god gamer after all
crisp zodiac
Not once have I met someone bearing that title that deserved it.
raven lava
the bonus shields don't ricochet like my hammer upgrade says increasing bounces, and the hammer that makes them do more damage and go faster during dashing also seems to do nothing for them
i think that's deliberate
would make chaos shield stupid broken
quaint hatch
Fair
cerulean pulsar
"we can't find fish points in end area or abyss"
" Huge Catch (Poseidon): Conch Shell Keepsake now works as a prerequisite for this to be offered"
how is this a +?
narrow hemlock
it doesnt say that you need the boons AND the conch, it reads to me as the conch can be used as a prereq as well
cerulean pulsar
I read it as being excluded unless you use Poseidon's keepsake
narrow hemlock
which was something people actually asked for. using the keepsake to make the legendary boon appear
zealous timber
The way to understand the change is that Poseidon's Huge Catch boon went from requiring two specific boons to requiring two of three (Ocean's Bounty, Sunken Treasure, Conch).
cerulean pulsar
are there "other" prerequisites...?
zealous timber
This information should be clarified inside the Codex Index for Huge Catch.
narrow hemlock
so you can either have the two boons as normal, or the conch plus one of the boons
iron loom
what are the numbers differences on the base bow special nerf compared to the chiron now:?
brisk trail
@zealous timber thank you for making this amazing game. It’s my favorite game ever.
cerulean pulsar
i didnt even know that the huge catch one needed others to show up xD
quiet gull
You can check boon prereqs in the codex
maiden mulch
hell mode unfortunately doesn't offer much over normal heat on a replay
dry mauve
@iron loom looks like 15 to 10 damage per arrow, so -33% for all bows
chiron gets one extra arrow so a full volley is 105 to 80 damage, which is approximately -25%
solemn sinew
Hi, i was wondering if there was a way to get some sort of API to for example create a twitch extension to see what boons the streamer has on his current run for example?
cerulean pulsar
yeah i know it just that when poseidon gave it to me in a run explaining the fishing stuff i thought it would be like, a random one from start
maiden mulch
early access hell mode was a lot more interesting, but people complained about everything that made it more interesting and it got nerfed down to what it is now
narrow hemlock
huge catch required sunken treasure and ocean's bounty, and if you picked up any other poseidon boons, it made it harder to get huge catch. so supplementing the keepsake is actually a plus, because sometimes you could find one of those two boons, and not find the other even through rerolls
tepid plover
no fix for aphro 😦
cerulean pulsar
yeah i can see how it is good now, I just thought Huge Catch was like, a random thing that showed up from start
narrow hemlock
that was a one time scripted event
cerulean pulsar
that was a one time scripted event
@narrow hemlock which is why i never even bothered to look up again as i thought poseidon would be able to give it to me always 😄
tepid plover
he was
zealous timber
@tepid plover what is not working with Aphrodite?
tepid plover
just needed the requirements
her favor
shes the only character im not fully bonded
shes been locked for around 2 months for me
i already met the requirements
zealous timber
If you think you may be completely blocked, please drop a mention in #h1-tech-support and F10 your save so they can follow up.
tepid plover
already did
cerulean pulsar
also glad to see more stuff added even after the end patch and not just bugfixes!
tepid plover
already did f10 and mentioned in #h1-tech-support
brisk trail
I hope they add DLC I’d be willing to pay another $25. Especially for more Hypnos content.
tepid plover
ive had aphro locked before 1.0 came out, i already finished all 1.0 content, and still nothing from aphro
brisk trail
Try using her keepsake @tepid plover
brisk trail
Very strange.
hoary canopy
I saw earlier in chat people (unsure if anyone corrected it) saying that bow special did 10 damage now
it in fact does 12 so ||Chiron does 96 damage||
tepid plover
wow
brisk trail
Sorry Dio
tepid plover
spurning me like that
stable meadow
I really like Chiron
tepid plover
better start running zag
brisk trail
Dio is still my favorite god
stable meadow
Pleas dont nerf
tepid plover
thought we were best mates
dry mauve
@hoary canopy are you sure you dont have any buffs enabled?
narrow hemlock
about to witness a trial of the gods here in this chat
dry mauve
such as high confidence
stable meadow
A good Chiron build is godly
hoary canopy
@dry mauve ah yeah forgot I had High Confidence on mb
dawn river
i would absolutely LOVE to see my namesake in this game
I just wanna see him in the beautiful artstyle of Hades
brisk trail
I’m thinking about changing my gamer tag to either Hypnos or Zagreus. Right now my gamer tag is Red Hood on all my games and platforms.
dawn river
Do it
shut geyser
||I have now finished buying all but one theme and have yet to notice what they do. googled it, thought about those screens, and still haven't noticed it||
hoary canopy
@shut geyser ||once you beat the game the victory screen has the decals||
frail wren
french streamers will be having a hades speedrun contest for charity on saturday (midnight, french time), as part of the ZEvent 2020. make sure to tune in guys !
tepid plover
the victory screen which is where you win
tepid plover
and also the boon menu, which is when you press b in pc, dont know about controller
shut geyser
I swear I screencapped it the last three runs and didn't notice anything @hoary canopy maybe my game is bugged
brisk trail
What requirement?
hoary canopy
post one in #h1-victory-boasting
raven lava
i think it's a certain number of runs?
hoary canopy
@shut geyser
raven lava
and then he just kinda shows up randomly
quiet gull
You need to reach room 3 of Elysium first
brisk trail
I did
quiet gull
After that, good ol' RNG
brisk trail
I got to the ||Minotaur|| already I’m assuming that’s far enough.
shut geyser
yeah
tepid plover
yeah thats enough
shut geyser
you'll get it soon enough
tepid plover
just praise the fates now
brisk trail
I'm just under 9 hours in and have got to ||Hades|| Once
stable meadow
Pls gods of game buff aspect of zangreus for fists to 10% dodge Chance and increase damge beacause they feel so bad
exotic lodge
Please buff zangreus his chest
stable meadow
I love the fists I do but I die so easily compared to other wepons
shut geyser
early on feather + fists does a lot
stable meadow
What is feather
opaque canopy
How game changing are the bow adjustments? Anyone try chiron?
stable meadow
Very good I love Chiron
Only tried Chiron though
Also do I need to have bought hidden aspect of spear to get other hidden aspects
opaque canopy
The patch today had some adjustments, and I'm wondering how they impacted the game
And no
scarlet helm
how do ||erebos|| gates work
opaque canopy
You just need to have unlocked the spear by saying the access phrase
No need to be able to use it
Those gates require a certain heat level to get in, and you need to not get hit to get the reward
stable meadow
Okay
quiet gull
how do ||erebos|| gates work
@scarlet helm The require you to ||increase your heat in the Pact of Punishment||
scarlet helm
but does it add an extra room or just take the place of the next room
opaque canopy
The rewards are similar to mini boss encounters in the last region, rewards are better
They take a room
Rewards on exit are different from those you might have encountered if you hadn't chosen to enter
scarlet helm
oh ew this one is giving me a ||pom of power|| when i could get ||ares or chaos boon||
zealous flare
i dont think theres anything that adds a room right?
they always take one, like chaos for eg
stable meadow
I started out on hell mode since I found beginning to easy on normal
foggy zephyr
@stable meadow adds dodge chance for every room you complete quickly
I don't know what the exact definition of "quickly" is
stable meadow
That's what I was thinking of on wiki
dry mauve
there is a timer underneath the plume
stable meadow
Since I checked a min ago
dry mauve
that ticks down inside rooms
you just need to clear the room before the timer finishes
tepid plover
i dont think theres anything that adds a room right?
@zealous flare it does add a room, if you take it right before a boss store
zealous flare
oh ive never noticed the timer
stable meadow
Hey dio I prefer Demeter and artims
zealous flare
oh nice!
stable meadow
But you are ss teir
zealous flare
so you cant ever skip the final boss store?
zealous flare
thats very good to know, thank you
tepid plover
sometimes it will have a store and another boon
main timber
games amazing hopeful for DLC ill throw money at my switch
zealous flare
so any erebus or chaos theres would be free
tepid plover
but erebus, will extend the chamber count yes
stable meadow
Ill buy dlc before it comes out
tepid plover
like you will always have the free room before a boss
buoyant merlin
599 megabyte update on steam just now. What happened
tepid plover
you cant go straight from erebus/chaos to boss
@buoyant merlin check #hades-patch-notes
stable meadow
Ill buy dlc before it comes out
I will I am 100% serious
unkempt ferry
how big was the patch for you guys cause It's not showing me the download size for some reason
shell ice
599 mb according to steam
pseudo onyx
Yay, the Big Catch boon was adjusted so Conch was a different pre-req, and this makes me happy haha
Primary gripe addressed, now 11/10 game
brisk trail
I’ve done 35 runs not sure why I haven’t met Thanatos yet
How long did it take you all?
pseudo onyx
Uhhhh.... early. But I also beat it the first time on run 6 I think so I sort of had a lot of stuff happening all at once
Though the patch said there was an issue where his first encounter wasn't reliable, and it was fixed
cursive rain
anyone know if the beams going through columns on the final boss is a bug?
thick ledge
any advice for getting a gods legendary?
i for the life of me can not get demeters legendary
its the last one i need for the prophecy
and i get the prereqs as early as possible
cursive rain
there's that mirror upgrade
tepid plover
anyone know if the beams going through columns on the final boss is a bug?
Is more of a visual thing
But yeah cna be considered a bug
cursive rain
try being lucky instead of unlucky next time
thick ledge
Is it a bad idea to start rund using her keepsake?
cursive rain
@tepid plover they go all the way through sometimes and hit me which is weird
thorn tendon
is there a greek translation of this game yet
normal iron
anyone know if you can deflect the elysium bosses spear throw?
quiet gull
You can
fresh magnet
you can even trick him to hit the bull with it lol
patent nebula
karmic imp
swagreus
tepid plover
any advice for getting a gods legendary?
Did you pet cerberus before escaping?
flat vapor
brisk trail
Lowkey starting to think Skelly has an abusive fetish of some kind. He’s always asking Zag to beat him up. Like even if he’s getting paid he seems a bit eager LOL.
lunar cypress
I still love how much of a himbo Pos is
thick yoke
maybe skelly’s a really eager masochist
lunar cypress
"That's definitely not the choice I would have made Little Hades; why, for me to side against myself makes no sense at all!"
thick yoke
oh wow
karmic imp
F
brisk trail
I must be having terrible luck.
thick yoke
I think he showed up during my 22nd run lol
karmic imp
Than is busy collecting souls
brisk trail
Hopefully once I can can install the patch he will show up.
Switch is still waiting on the patch.
karmic imp
Ye seems always a bit of a hassle to do updates on switch
brisk trail
hushed sparrow
anyone experiencing like way reduced amount of boons per run after the latest patch? keep getting darkness or gem rooms, lot more than usual
drowsy finch
I get than like every run lmao
tepid plover
I get him every run for like 10 runs
Then he disappears for another 10
Samr for patroclus
And eurydice
quartz ivy
I still can't get the Hypnos favour
jade crescent
just finished all my prophecies 
just need to finish 4 keepsakes, and 2 character bonds
quartz ivy
I assume it's gotta be thanatos has too much of a backlog of conversaitons but god -damn-
jade crescent
same azure, takes a while for hyp
tepid plover
Correct
woven cipher
is there a requirement for the prophecy of war-god's bloodlust? I'm at 18k kills and nothing so far
quaint hatch
I think you need encounter ares with a special dialogue
Where he acknowledges that
So guess what
Rng dialogue
woven cipher
nectar requirement or no?
round wraith
can't decide if blizzard shot is good
i got normal poseidon shot and it's been doing work
quaint hatch
nectar requirement or no?
@woven cipher I don't know
But I would find it weird if
woven cipher
hmm ok, I just dont use his boons that often...
dreamy mauve
I have to say this may be my favorite game
grim oracle
Will we ever be able to lift the weights in our room? D:
pseudo onyx
Oof. I have 4th bow aspect, got the unique hammer repulse shot (gives blast wave around the attack).... This now makes an Athena empowered reflect attack not at all work, whether it's the blast wave or it's the actual projectile. Oy vey that sucks.
Submitted a bug but wanted to throw that out there in here
remote forge
@grim oracle yeah just get some weights and draft up a sheet to keep track of your reps
But first you'll need to stop playing Hades all day
dawn dagger
Hi, sorry for disturbing the conversation. I'm having a problem with a specific story quest, I don't know if I'm missing something or if it's a bug, could someone help me please?
grim oracle
Lmao.
dreamy mauve
Weapon aspects and upgrades can often interact poorly with boons
pseudo onyx
This seems like a bug, not an "interacts poorly"
quaint hatch
@dawn dagger just ask
dreamy mauve
It was one of my previous favorite games
quaint hatch
Weapon aspects and upgrades can often interact poorly with boons
@dreamy mauve wtf
pseudo onyx
I wanted to see if it would cause the blast to reflect, it destroyed, ok thats cool... but now the main arrow attack does too. ruh roh.
woven cipher
@dawn dagger spoiler it just in case I think
dreamy mauve
Wdym Vo1di
quaint hatch
|| on both sides
Got it now
I didn't read the "can" and thought that was a weird statement
dreamy mauve
Oh
quaint hatch
Seemed just like you saying "weapon upgrades are trash for aspects" and my mind was like tf
dreamy mauve
Yeah, would be weird to say
quaint hatch
Eh people say strange things
dawn dagger
|| It is in favor for Orpheus. I gave all the nectar to Orpheus, Eurydice and Nyx. So Nyx told me to find Orpheus's contract on the administrative chamber, but I couldn't find it, it's been a lot of runs ||
|| Alias, thank for teach me how to use spoiler tag ||
quaint hatch
You need to go in the chambers
woven cipher
@dawn dagger ||Huh, you can't interact with one of the drawers? ||
quaint hatch
And there should be a yellow glowing dot
At the end of the room
You can interact with that
pseudo onyx
Man I hope a boon comes along asking me to trade if it doesnt do anything anymore lol
quaint hatch
You can sell
dreamy mauve
Yeah
dawn dagger
@woven cipher || only with the drawers that have the run history ||
quaint hatch
Well would you rather have your build ruined or at least make bank?
dawn dagger
@quaint hatch can you tell me which side of the room?
pseudo onyx
I mean. I dont deflect. It still is an epic boon that boosts my raw attack damage
It just sucks that it doesn't bounce back, gonna make satyrs annoying later
woven cipher
||That's.... weird. The room is quite small, you should be able to see it easily. Unless this is a bug. Nyx has told you to see drawer alpha gamma something yeah?||
quaint hatch
Thought it was more dire
pseudo onyx
Tho, maybe, it might destroy the projectiles, in which case it's not great but it could be worse
quaint hatch
Well destroying projectiles is not a boon property
Some regular attacks just do that
pseudo onyx
The hammer thing grants a blast wave, its decription says blast waves will destroy most projectiles
I think that property is being given to the actual arrow I'm shooting and not the blast wave itself, perhaps?
quaint hatch
I was talking about boons
pseudo onyx
Because suddenly now the arrow itself can't deflect
queen wharf
Anyone else seeing blurry characters after the update?
dawn dagger
@bronze panther || Zagreus asked if he had "authority" over Orpheus' contract, Nyx replied that as long as he got access to the room, theoretically he would. That was several runs ago ||
quaint hatch
That's not the dialogue
She needs to specify where it is
You still need other npc dialogue
dawn dagger
Ah okaay, due to this dialogue from Nyx I believed that I had already done enough things to appear the contract
Well, I was just letting something go, it's not a bug then. Thank you for your help!
gusty slate
Good luck!
woven cipher
hmm
how many hearts you have with nyx?
because I kinda had to max it out (until the lock shows up) before she will help me with any quest
woven cipher
time to exhaust dialogues then
fringe garnet
I'm on escape attempt 114 and just died to Theseus/Asterius (the first time in a long time ). Hypnos mentioned ||that if I asked nicely I might be able to get Asterius' autograph for him.||
||That's the trigger to unlock his final affection points, right? || Have I been unable to unlock it all this time because I have so rarely died to them?
Or could I have gotten it earlier and I just have happened to had bad luck?
dawn dagger
@bronze panther Yeah, I will try to maximize hearts with Eurydice and see what happens, thank you for the help
open raptor
Is it a known bug to not be able to unlock weapon aspects; use Call; or get the Fists and Rail? This is on my 18th run, have hearts with nearly everyone, used all dialogue options; Skelly even showed me how to do all three and I got to use Call for one run.
dreamy mauve
That's the trigger @fringe garnet
dreamy mauve
There are things you don't get to see unless you die
gusty slate
Oh is it not? woops
brisk trail
I'm on escape attempt 114 and just died to Theseus/Asterius (the first time in a long time
||That's the trigger to unlock his final affection points, right? || Have I been unable to unlock it all this time because I have so rarely died to them?
Or could I have gotten it earlier and I just have happened to had bad luck?
@fringe garnet
Guess i know now why i never triggered it(i think i didn't, at least)
fringe garnet
spin attack spear build. should i take epic Zeus attack boon (chain lightning?) or rare Zeus special boon (lightning bolt)? help me decide, discord!
narrow hemlock
please dont tell people hypnos affinity is linked to the autograph, thats a completely separate thing lmao it involves ||a long back and forth with thanatos||
brisk trail
it genuinely isnt
@narrow hemlock Oh, ok
fringe garnet
huh
dreamy mauve
Who mentioned affinity?
gusty slate
Ahhhh, so that's the one. Gotcha I lied to people then woops
narrow hemlock
i have been seeing it around here and steam a lot
dreamy mauve
I see
narrow hemlock
also galren, reliken asked if that was the trigger to his affection points, to answer your question to who mentioned affinity
affection points, affinity, its referencing the same thing, the codex hearts
tepid plover
Yeah the bull autograph has nothing to do with hypnos favor
lunar cypress
Anyone else wish damage to armor "bled" through to normal HP when breaking?
lunar cypress
Even if it were like half of it
dreamy mauve
I guess I am blind
proud canyon
Did they take out the Woodland theme in this update?
I'm not seeing it on my contractor list anymore, which is a bummer cuz I really liked using it
cyan aspen
what is the "theme" changing? i think i might be dumb cuz i cant tell
fringe garnet
boon screen and victory screen only
not the pause button UI or dialogue UI, anything like that
fast shuttle
whelp, this might be a sign game demands I quit
fringe garnet
@cyan aspen woodland theme still there for me
cyan aspen
@fringe garnet ah okay tyty
gusty slate
What?
fast shuttle
patch has made game eat 30GB of ram
gusty slate
Woah it's at 30 now?
carmine ravine
i think u just have a malware @fast shuttle
carmine ravine
my lappy is 8gb and it runs fast, wdym
proud canyon
I see Cthonic, Deathly, Infinite, Princely, Infernal, Sonorous, Stygian, and Lovely
no Woodland
fringe garnet
ive been playing too much god of war and bloodborne lately, i'm so rusty
carmine ravine
woodland is like 10k gems
brisk trail
On run 36 still no Thanatos
fringe garnet
had a 10 streak (i know, not that great) but i just died THREE TIMES IN A ROW
carmine ravine
36 is rookie numbers
fringe garnet
granted, one of them was to (secret boss spoilers) ||charon 5 rooms into tartarus|| so i dont feel bad
brisk trail
36 is rookie numbers
@carmine ravine got the game 5 days ago
cyan aspen
anyone got pictures what the different themes look like?
lunar cypress
I wish there were a hammer upgrade to make Zeus shield home in or somethin
Tracking buzzsaw goes brrr
gusty slate
Wish it had hammer to increase range of bursts tbh
fringe garnet
omg (late-game story spoilers) Zeus ||lying to Zag about Persephone - "i have no idea what happened to her! what a mystery! don't believe everything you hear!"|| has me maaad
i wish zeus special stacked w/ hammer upgrade to make your next 2 hits after special hits do 80% bonus damage
gusty slate
but isn't that statement true
fringe garnet
according to (late-game story spoilers) ||Hades, Zeus "gave" him Persephone as a gift/consolation prize for being stuck in the Underworld||
carmine ravine
yes
gusty slate
Well yeah, but he doesn't know the outcome of that in the present though?
gusty slate
Hm
carmine ravine
and pretend its never happened
gusty slate
I thought that was just covering him from before lol
As he ||kidnapped Persephone pretty much?||
Guess I was giving him too much of a pass
dreamy mauve
Rather minor for an olympian
carmine ravine
zeus is pretty evil for a presumably benovelent deity