I have one with meg
#h1-discussion
hallow spoke
lavish tree
@hallow spoke It means you will have an option to progress in relationship with them in future, but not now
hallow spoke
so what do i need to progress the relationship or do i need to wait for a little while?
lavish tree
You just keep playing and everything will eventually unlock itself
frozen roost
^
Ffs
I wanna go do another run now
But its 12 ._.
This game is addictive ugh
hallow spoke
okay, so do i need to give her more nectar or stop for now?
frozen roost
If you can give her, you should
lavish tree
@frozen roost Go for another one, it's just half an hour...
frozen roost
Nectar is easy to farm anyway
No i already did 4 earlier and i have to wake up early
😫 😫
hallow spoke
okay
frozen roost
K i go, byehh
hallow spoke
oop skelly has one too now haha
jade crescent
how are you supposed to fight the enhanced hydra without taking much damage? there's no where to stand
paper light
A deflect boon helps a lot. Focusing on one head will also give you some breathing room.
quick pawn
anyone else find Athena's boons to be too universally good to not pick? I think I have an addiction to her dash boon...
thick ledge
i think athenas dash boon is op
quick pawn
and then you get a +3 dash from Hermes and you're set
kind moss
I like her special on coronacht
thick ledge
otherwise, i think depding on weapon and aspect, other gods are similar tiers if not better
artemis with the second sword aspect that makes you crit after specialing is just bonkers
15% crit on attack from the sword, another 15% from artemis + any other you might get and you can actaully get huge crit chances going
sleek radish
i play hades on pc but would any of u rec the switch version over pc? my friend is interested but doesnt know which version to get
kind moss
I mean, which console would they prefer to play on
thick ledge
its definitely personal preference
kind moss
there's not any exclusive content or anything
lavish tree
@jade crescent I think the general idea is to move constantly
thick ledge
but if they have a decent comp, the game will probably run better on PC
sinful spruce
Best Hades youtubers?
lavish tree
A hit here, a hit there
thick ledge
theres always a lot of concessions made to port something to switch performance wise
quick pawn
I'm just waiting for Hades to get a physical Switch release and then they'll have the cross-save implemented by then (hopefully) and I'll double dip
sleek radish
ok thank you!!
wheat pecan
Can you perfect dodge hades spear spin attack??
gusty swift
Gah, another unannounced update. Not gonna lie these are getting kinda annoying.
lapis wave
hey guys! I wanna ask something about Aspect of Lucifer. I have all aspects maxed out but no matter what I did, I couldn't open Aspect of Lucifer. I have maxed out hearts with Zeus and also I have his keepsake bonded. Is there any ideas why?
wheat pecan
Well then I'm just trash haha
thick ledge
dw man, its definitely not easier
also even though you can, its generally best not to be in that position in the first palce
gusty swift
Is getting patch notes for all these micro-updates too much to ask for? If they're hot-fixes, I'd like to know what they're hot-fixing.
indigo plover
any way to get companion straightforward?
wheat pecan
Coming from a developer background @gusty swift it can be. Depending on how severe the hotfix is sometimes that just doesn't happen with everyone working over night to support a brand new game that's been purchased a million times in 3 days
supple field
i love artemis' support fire boon
worn jacinth
Hello kind friends
I just got the game yesterday and have been loving it very much so far
supple field
i just had sisyphius event trigger w thanatos
@indigo plover probably bug report, press f10
worn jacinth
I have a question which must have been asked a million times but no matter how much I search I can't find an answer
Is there any checkpoint or something later on? Is it always start to finish in one run?
gusty swift
It's a roguelite. Start to finish in one run.
terse geyser
when you clear a chamber the game saves
so you can exit the game midrun and continue
supple field
theoretically you can exit the game once the game saves like haelface said
gusty swift
I assume by checkpoint he means start from where he died. Which is NOT a thing, no.
terse geyser
but, you don't keep in-run progress when you die
median sluice
im a scumbag. i got to boss with full 276 health, and both self revive perks and died
crappy sword build
it hurt
quaint wind
@median sluice please spoiler the final boss's name
median sluice
i know but i was more optimistic that time 😂
brisk trail
I beat the hydra with 1 HP, stepped in the lava near the exit boat and died
so don't feel bad
median sluice
its cause i still havent cleared it after over 30 runs
terse geyser
that's pretty normal
median sluice
are top builds mostly RNG or are there surefire ways to become OP?
terse geyser
many people took many tries to beat it
jade crescent
I don't get why the final boss is considered a spoilers ||I mean it's literally the main antagonist from the start and the name of the game||
terse geyser
you can do a lot to force your build.
spice hawk
I got to the final boss in my sixth run, currently on 15 and counting and I barely scratched his final phase
terse geyser
keepsakes force specific gods to appear, and gods will usually offer core boons if you have them open
brisk trail
this game is like Dead Cells where you get a surprising amount of control over how strong you get per run. You won't always be godlike, but a seasoned player will be able to pick good boon combos efficiently
median sluice
its my first roguelite
terse geyser
it takes some practice and experimentation, but you'll eventually get to a point where you can with decent reliability control your builds.
brisk trail
It certainly helps that there's often choices as to where to go, unlike some roguelites which are "this is all you get, deal with it"
median sluice
me picking the fated item doesnt help matters. but thats to finish the collection. i was recommended to do that
terse geyser
oh yeah
until you finish the prophecies you have the choice between doing that and focusing on your build
median sluice
got it
terse geyser
if you're really invested in a run you can of course ignore the fates, though
deft spear
dead cells
terse geyser
you can always get fated boons in another run
indigo plover
wow never used bow, 50~ runs w shield and this is my best run by far
volley is crazy
jade crescent
you get bonus gems and purple on runs with a random specified weapon, I always swap to that weapon
brisk trail
The bow's special becomes a boss melting machine with certain boons, it's pretty nuts
brisk trail
the only catch is you gotta get up in point blank range to shotgun them
indigo plover
yea but i have athena 40% and ares 20%
so i can just stand back
and deflect
and nuke
brisk trail
I think the bow starts off really strong and snowballs really fast if you get lucky with boons. But if you don't, low damage with bow becomes an absolute slog
waxen maple
jade crescent
if you get that hammer that gives you a better window for the perfect charge, it's insane
serene breach
I noticed that if you give up, you "lose all your progress since last time". Does it kill you and remove all the resources you collected on that run?
serene breach
Sometimes I just want to grab a thing or two and gtfo
brisk trail
Oh yeah, the charge window buff from hammer instantly makes the bow godlike
serene breach
literal death to theseus is forbidden. Only normal death is allowed
brisk trail
hammer upgrades are amazing in general though. If I see a hammer, I go choose it 90% of the time
jade crescent
for sure
spice hawk
I have completionism OCD so I'm not picking the same boon twice even if I know it's awesome, because of the prophecies lol
I loved the power charge hammer boon for the bow, but only used it once because of it
indigo plover
o_O you run out quick lol
spice hawk
I'm still early
thick ledge
tbh tho, its just the game incentivizing you to use the other ones
so thats not a bad thing
indigo plover
ive only been playing a few days and only have a few fated ones i come across
right
thick ledge
i'd wager most boons are pretty good
only a few i never grab like Athenas take less to traps one
indigo plover
MOST "stare at dionysius and hermes rng"
brisk trail
Yeah, you won't spend too long doing that. There's a lot of boons, but not THAT many. It's how you combine them that brings the game its depth
indigo plover
idk wtf is even good besides the god charge
indigo plover
and dash invinc
thick ledge
is really good
side hustle is really nice, but more as a way of buying everything from charon everytime you see him
but you have to get it early
jade crescent
after you ||bring persephone back home|| how do you catch fish on the ||surface||?
supple field
fishing spots will pop up in the area you fight the final boss
jade crescent
cool
also I've unlocked the option to buy extremer measures... that won't permanently set the game to harder will it?
brisk trail
No, you can reverse any Heat difficulty you apply
jade crescent
so there's absolutely no reason not to buy that?
jade crescent
but there are no negatives, nice
brisk trail
stupid Tuesday Steam maintenance
drowsy arch
does hades have a ending yet?
cobalt maple
yes
drowsy arch
or is it still the same is alpha?
zinc shadow
So happy I found this game. Loving it a little too much. I hope that feeling stays for a long time.
drowsy arch
kk, time to beat the game again
cobalt maple
there's much more now
scarlet ice
the game isn't in alpha anymore, there's now a real ending
brisk trail
Same @zinc shadow I was gonna play a bunch of FF14 over the weekend but got completely hooked to Hades instead
When a game overpowers my MMO addiction...that's impressive
buoyant frigate
i'm not concerned by the lgbtq community but i like how the game is turn in their favor
wheat pecan
Do dash attack buffs work with the entire clip of your weapon? Or just the first shot?
flat vapor
it works with every shot you dash attack with
wheat pecan
Gotcha thanks
flat vapor
if you dash attack then stay still, those latter shots are gonna count as attacks bc you didn't dash beforehand
wheat pecan
Is there an official way to report a bug? Got an easily reproducible one here.
flat vapor
f10 in-game for a bug reporter
scarlet ice
can you get boss rewards at higher heat levels before completing a run at a lower partially-complete level?
flat vapor
you only get bounties one heat level at a time
indigo plover
whos the best person to give max nectar to first
flat vapor
there's nothing stopping you from doing high heat, of course, but you'll only get the bounties from your lowest uncompleted heat level
scarlet ice
i have boss rewards for the first three regions at heat 0, and when i go to heat 1 it doesn't try and tell me my heat is overleveled
flat vapor
i.e. if your bounties are at heat 1, but you want to do heat 5, you'd need to win a heat 5 run five times to get those bounties
heat 0 is a special case
it won't tell you you have heat 0 bounties, but they're available
scarlet ice
so if i get up to region 3 on heat 1 it won't let me try and get earlier region rewards for heat 4?
flat vapor
nope
scarlet ice
ok thank you
flat vapor
you'd have to get that final bounty from biome 4 first, then it'll let you do heat 2 bounties
scarlet ice
i want to farm diamonds and i figured that would be the easiest way to do it
at least i can still get the heat 1 diamonds without escaping heat 0 tho right
buoyant frigate
are you the first game with achievments on egs ?
flat vapor
at least i can still get the heat 1 diamonds without escaping heat 0 tho right
yes
imo the game should tell the player about heat 0, but whatevs
scarlet ice
cool that should be enough diamonds to satisfy me then
probably not actually but them's the breaks
flat vapor
don't forget that you can change weapons and get those bounties too
scarlet ice
yeah i've only completed heat 0 and 1 with aegis
i already got the heat 0 diamonds with all of the weapons tho
but i can get the heat 1 diamonds with the other 5 weapons
flat vapor
that should be pretty good then
scarlet ice
it's not enough to buy a lot of cool things but it's at least more than enough for the last work order i need
brisk trail
lol I started playing 3 days ago and already racked up 42 hours.. this aint healthy for me haha
scarlet ice
i'm at 82 hours and i bought the game when it was announced for switch two indie showcases ago
an unknown amount of these hours is spent with me tabbed out looking at notes tho
gusty slate
and when in doubt ||do more runs||
junior galleon
Very wise
raven horizon
I love hypno, but I swear sometimes I want to kick him off a cliff
“YOU GOT KILLED BY A RODENT?! ROFLMAO”
gusty slate
"Hey just try not getting hit"
manic bobcat
Everyone focuses Hypnos but Skelly also gives a lot of 4head advice
raven horizon
At least skelly isn’t like “man, you suck” 0.4 seconds into entering hell
flat vapor
skelly is the tutorial character, so i'd give him some slack 💀
gusty slate
Boyo git gud
raven horizon
I’d love for Hypno to make a reference like that
“You know, some of the shades around here say that the term “git gud” was a phrase that was said while they were alive. ...so uh.. git gud!”
granite ether
@fair dove not sure if someone has already mentioned, but we already have kbm and controller roles (controller is just called gamepad)
kind moss
but what about gamepad and mouse
granite ether
just use both roles 😉
manic bobcat
How about dance pad?
kind moss
i feel like that indicates swapping between them
granite ether
that's technically a gamepad fox :p
brittle zealot
oh my goodness
in Zagreus's bedroom, in a shelf across from the bed
there is a ball with a similar color as the Beyonder Crystal, with the Pyre symbol printed on it
clever Supergiant
granite ether
it's a real nice touch :3
raven silo
can I just say I really like the combo of the aspect of talos with posiedon's flourish
playing paddle ball with your enemies still alive bodies is pretty fun
manic bobcat
Someone named that the Yank 'n Yeet build
raven silo
also good with anything that leaves a lingering area of damage
like the dionysus dash or any blade rifts
scarlet ice
i love how you can differentiate overworld and underworld denizens by accent
meager notch
Anyone else feeling an annoying effect during dialogues where (as expected) the music volume fades out as they speak, but with a long enough pause starts fading back in, only to fade out again as they start talking again?
scarlet ice
i didn't even notice until dusa mentioned it
crimson canopy
What are the guidelines for discussing feedback? Obviously the actual #hades-feedback channel is for actual feedback but some suggestions I think warrant discussion (trivial example: someone was calling for kbm/controller discord roles which already exist iirc)
jovial crypt
crimson canopy
I guess for that example I agree, but most of the feedback is about the game itself... so I guess this channel by default? Feels weird to just at someone though in a different channel
median sluice
hey does giving gifts to the gods past the intital one grant any gameplay chances or only dialogue stuff?
flat vapor
the latter
median sluice
thx
shut wolf
i just did EM4 and it was amazing
sharp fossil
@crimson canopy according to the pins discussing feedback should happen in #h1-builds-and-combat
which doesn’t always make sense imho (such as with your KBM/controller example)
i just did EM4 and it was amazing
i love this fight so much
it’s everything i wanted it to be
silent axle
hey guys is there any way to return my hearts or w/e its called that i used for the weapons
narrow hemlock
titan blood? no
narrow hemlock
so long as you haven't returned to zag's room you can restart and have that refunded but otherwise no
meager notch
just get more lmao :^)
sharp fossil
you’ll get more
narrow hemlock
zag's room is an auto save point any time you enter
silent axle
ye but the problem is i just used like 1 or 2 for every weapon
and i realized thats a massive waste
sharp fossil
means you can have more variety, if a little less power
silent axle
a lot less sadly
sharp fossil
i mean, true
fringe garnet
has anyone found the fist's hidden aspect-specific daedalus upgrades yet? no luck here and im so curious
sharp fossil
but you’ll get more
silent axle
how do you get more
silent axle
i already used all the weapons
do i get more titan blood
after i complete stage 1 heat?
sharp fossil
yeah
silent axle
ahh that still leaves sour taste tho, they definitely should add some type of system where you can reset it
because when you are new u dont know what you are doing
so they should be some way to reset it
for example 20 keys or smth
like they have with the shadows
manic bobcat
if you are new what's the chance you have 20 spare keys?
silent axle
ohh i mean exactly after you start playing you can realise
that you did a mistake so you can go fix it
if you are new how are u supposed to know how to use such a limited resource
brisk trail
tbf, if you worry that much early about titan blood and not putting everything on one weapon, it is still early enough to just restart the game and do exactly that
or just continue playing, upgrade mirror, look into #h1-builds-and-combat and you'll get more titan blood eventually
silent axle
ye i will just continue farming shadows
since i have all level 1 buffs on the weapons at least
jovial crypt
Man, I just got done watching most of the noclip documentaries on Supergiant
And here I was thinking I couldn't be any more impressed with them
brisk trail
i've gotten victories on weapons without a single titan-blood upgrade
astral oak
Does anyone know if I have to have Exagryph equipped to get the dialogue to unlock the final aspect?
jovial crypt
Absolutely unbelievable what they make happen
fair dove
How do I even get damage with spear
brisk trail
@fair dove as with any roguelike game, pray to the rng-god after looking up builds for the specific weapon you wanna use I guess haha
stone bison
aspect of ||gilgamesh|| is so so so broken
raven silo
I find that buffs to the throw tend to do well for the spear
because it hits twice, zeus's flourish is pretty good, but general damage boosts are alright too
granite ether
@green acorn please separate out your feedback into two separate posts please as they pertain to two different things
raven silo
backstab applies to the return on it, so go with backstab boosts
jade crescent
is there any way to turn off the blinding screen right before you enter the final boss room?
it's supposed to be thematic, but you don't need it when you face him for the 20th time
tulip acorn
Is stygian soul or infernal soul better for cast builds?
flat vapor
infernal, always
stygian is technically better if you get chaos grasps, prometheus stones, or fully loaded, but this requires good luck and investment while infernal is always better at the start
manic bobcat
nice gif but maybe that can go into #h1-builds-and-combat ? it might be considered spoiler in this channel @ebon sleet
ebon sleet
oh sorry
manic bobcat
nice build though
surreal kelp
Doom 
Weak 
barren ocean
which room do i scream in about how annoying Theseus is
flat vapor
#h1-story-discussion probably 😛
white mountain
Poseidon has the same hair pattern as fire lord ozai
brisk trail
wuz good
raven horizon
I have a feeling supergiant is quite literally Olympus under the guise of being game developers
“Who is Darren Korb you ask? Oh, just the God of Song and all, small things really.”
“But look at this dog! It’s our office dog and it’s so cute, totally not Cerberus or anything. 
“
fading edge
hey whats the difference between the standard and limited vinyl releases of the soundtrack?
somber star
I'm sure this has been said before, but this soundtrack is so good
viscid zealot
does anybody knows is mirror +dmg for 2+ status effect bonus work for actually status effects dmg like demeter freze?
gusty slate
Should count as one of them
vestal lotus
hello. I'm currently having a glitch with your game on my nintendo switch lite. long story short all the prompts disappeared and when i tried to relaunch the game that specific save file now has an error message when i try to open it. i put alot of time into that file and this game is pretty slow going with progress so im pretty upset. i tried to redownload the game but that didnt work. can i get some help?
supple field
try #h1-tech-support
vestal lotus
kk
gusty slate
4th aspects are spoilers apparently. #h1-story-discussion has it pinned I believe
supple field
why do i always get refill for DD when im at max but when i need a refill they never show up
gusty slate
ikr
junior galleon
I always forget my || legendary keepsakes.|| I never use it. I would have won against redacted so many times if I just remembered to use them
gusty slate
Only 2 of those can be used against Redacted if I recall... ||until you get permission to do so for the rest||
waxen ice
hey guys
i beat the game on the first try after a many month hiatus
holy crap
that ending
noble moat
Would it be spoilery for me to understand how to get more guts from the first boss? I’ve got 6 from the 6 weapons, and don’t understand how I’d ever get more. For understanding on where I’m at in the game, I’ve only managed to get to the fourth area once.
waxen ice
damn
magic tangle
by "guts" you mean titan blood?
junior galleon
Do more runs
teal agate
beat the entire run and you'll see 🙂
noble moat
Haha ok thanks, that’s all I needed!
Spent it without really realizing what I was doing lol.
junior galleon
Also youcan trade them in at base (but not sure f that's already unlocked
But yeah don't bother with that right now
gusty slate
GOtta rip up some titans for blood... extract it all
magic tangle
right. So after you've beaten [REDACTED] with the weapons, you unlock the pact of punishment. Before you start a run, you can make your life harder by various means, and if you beat the first boss with increasingly higher "heat", you can gain a titan blood every time (but only if you completely finish a run at that heat level)
gusty slate
Get 2 per heat, but yeah
noble moat
This is seriously the most helpful Discord.
magic tangle
whenever you need something answered, feel free to pop into #h1-for-new-players and you'll receive a mountain of advice
junior galleon
For hades? Or all discords?
deft gull
Do I need to be missing a death defiance before Chaos will offer their legendary boon? Or have I really been THAT unlucky for 100 runs straight? I see now that I can't get it on the first visit to Chaos, but I've done runs with multiple visits to Chaos and I have as of yet not seen the legendary boon, even with the +legendary mirror talent active. Even using FA to reroll hasn't helped 😭
hoary canopy
Just unlucky they will offer it at full DD
junior galleon
Legendary boon and duo prophecies are brutal
deft gull
I've got 130 runs and have never seen it
smoky sable
But yeah full DD is still ok
hoary canopy
Im at 100 runs and ive seen it twice
junior galleon
60 runs:D saw it once (I think)
jagged ivy
it's cool because I believe you can actually restore the death defiance chaos gives you if you lose it with kiss of styx
maybe athena too?
junior galleon
Well it's so inconsistent to get it doesn't really matter.
deft gull
honestly, I don't even need death defiances that much (I play with god mode), and I didn't care about the the keys you get from that prophecy.... except now I want the silly UI work order that costs 200 keys
junior galleon
Also +attack%/+spezial% is probably better anyway
deft gull
Also, for completionism's sake
gusty slate
Yeah you can restore it I believe. I remember ||Patty|| giving it back to me for some reason
Yeah the endgame resource sinks
...I'm missing 100 or so keys still
gusty slate
Yeah, but gem grind is slow
deft gull
lol my gemstones are precious! I haven't bought all the decorations yet
gusty slate
SGG has added some more gem intake though so maybe not too bad... but eh'
dry falcon
playing with godmode 
narrow hemlock
dont feel bad about that!
deft gull
Is perfectly valid, because it's there as an option
gusty slate
Godmode is Zag being really good
smoky sable
Besides oceans bounty, chaos boon, and from the weapon bonus, is there any other way to get more gems?
deft gull
Poseidon has a + x% boon, and there's a work order to give you gems from boss battles
oh, and fishing
I don't remember if Sisyphus's summon drops gems at random too
smoky sable
I think it does
supple field
RNGesus hates me, I can't complete Dusa's prophecy
smoky sable
No? Darn
deft gull
oh, and the treasure troves, ofc
gusty slate
Obols, darkness, hp if I recall
smoky sable
Ah yeah makes sense
empty harbor
Guys, question, I upgraded my rail to have +10 ammo capacity, but I still only have 12?
smoky sable
Are you using the aspect of zagreus version?
smoky sable
Yup 👍
junior galleon
I hope they add dyonesus.
Kinda weird to just see his hammer without a god talking
(very likely pronounced that name wrong)
supple field
daedalus?
junior galleon
Yes
supple field
dionysus is the god of wine
deft gull
The hammer is from Daedalus, who made the maze the minotaur was trapped in
narrow hemlock
they didnt want everything to talk to you
supple field
daedalus isnt a god btw, hes a mortal
narrow hemlock
thats why you just get a hammer
junior galleon
I want everything to talk to me
supple field
would be cool if daedalus was in our weapons room
glad garden
Has cross save been turned on yet?
narrow hemlock
deft gull
yeah, Daedalus was mortal. His son was Icarus, iirc, he who flew too close to the sun
narrow hemlock
@glad garden they're still working on that
vast junco
@junior galleon here's greg talking about why daedalus himself isn't present etc. https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/477164376496013323/672871913193996293
junior galleon
Or like when you pick up titan blood. Some titans start whispering too you. And the more titan blood you get the more they talk to you.
Kinda like a endgame storyline for heat
narrow hemlock
tail and i sharing a braincell
modest fable
So I found a small bug and I was gonna put it in feedback (since I think that's where it would belong) but it doesnt give me permission to post there?
gusty slate
it
supple field
you need to get the role early access
modest fable
Ah I see ty
supple field
yw
modest fable
Also a reply to f10 I cant f10 I'm on switch unless theres a button to report bug on switch
it's an old habit to say f10
modest fable
It okay lol tbh I didnt know f10 was a thing I dont play on PC often. Just noticed it now after reading through description on feedback
gusty slate
I guess you can't check controls on switch? Might say it there
junior galleon
I took the weekly challenge role but there isn't a channel for it?
supple field
i love bouldy 💜
gusty slate
Uh it's a pin in...
modest fable
I checked controls says nothing about reporting bugs
gusty slate
Well darn, lemme see where you can send reports
azure bear
Hi, just joined. Only recently found Bastion and it's easily one of my favorite games of all time. I have my fingers crossed that Hades is coming to Xbox soon 🙂
junior galleon
Ah found it
shy pasture
so uhh when is hades PVE dropping?
supple field
spark wheres the challenge?
raven silo
Pve?
modest fable
Bles it's not a major bug or anything but it's there and I dont wanna send it to the wrong place
shy pasture
multiplayer
tawny light
Daedelus isn't a god though
junior galleon
Pretty sure it's already pve
raven silo
Ah
vast junco
hades pve has been dropping for over a year
junior galleon
or is it????
gusty slate
Maybe tech channel?
raven silo
Nah they mean multiplayer pve
gusty slate
I'm not sure where one sends bugs for switch actually... there might be an email somewhere
shy pasture
😢
vast junco
multiplayer pve is also not happening
gusty slate
I'd rather SGG spend time on possible DLC than that >_>
vast junco
sure, it's not really about whether its possible or not
vast junco
but SGG does not intend to do any of it with Hades
gusty slate
Assuming they even want to do stuff with Hades still
raven silo
wait for somebody really cool to mod it into the game, or do it yourself if you can code
gusty slate
Chaos used to throw out everywhere isntead of a cone
shy pasture
what if they have something like the bloodstain/ghosts from dark souls. an indirect way for other players to affect our playthroughs
serene breach
I'd rather sgg make something new, it's what they do best
raven silo
Oh strike through didnt work
brisk trail
good no, not every game needs multiplayer
gusty slate
I'll see if I can ask the daytime EST people where they send switch bug reports lol
modest fable
Ya I tried checking but it doesnt say anywhere where to submit for switch lol
junior galleon
A ton changed in 1.0
fair dove
Chaos used to throw out everywhere isntead of a cone
@gusty slate is it better now or worse
modest fable
I'll just drop in tech then
jade crescent
can you get duos on trials of the gods rooms?
junior galleon
That's a good question
raven silo
I think so?
fair dove
They made chaos aspect... less chaotic?
gusty slate
tech support might be best for now, I'll ask around later
jagged ivy
they made it shoot in front of you
fair dove
Is that better
jagged ivy
instead of all around you
junior galleon
Because most duo rooms are both boons of gods you already have
fair dove
Than before
gusty slate
You can get duos I believe yeah
fair dove
?
raven silo
I dont see any reason why you couldn't get dues, unless they're specifically made to not
jagged ivy
hmmm
jagged ivy
I wouldn't say so, not a big nerf either
kind moss
that are in the room
gusty slate
I've rerolled into them before
junior galleon
Ah rip
jagged ivy
very similar
kind moss
but you can get duos between them and other gods
gusty slate
Well that makes sense
vast junco
it's worse for thunder flourish since it's now harder to offset shield hits to avoid the internal cooldown of bolts
junior galleon
That make the room worse.
Still a great room
jagged ivy
but it makes high heat a little more complicated with jury summons
wait can we talk about that here?
gusty slate
talk about what
raven silo
Wait thunder flourish has a cooldown? Never noticed
gusty slate
we can
jagged ivy
ok
gusty slate
it's just not for newplayers channel as that confuses people I think is the reason
jagged ivy
yeah I mean it's not really a notable nerf, or a buff imo
jade crescent
I figured duos always come with dialogue, so in trials rooms you get text from both people already
jagged ivy
ah ok
vast junco
all zeus bolt effects have an internal cooldown of 0.2s
raven silo
It's at least as fast as the ticks with aspect of zeus, because had those together and I swear it was every tick of that
Ah okay
vast junco
so if you use it with chiron for example, not every arrow from the special will proc a bolt
since they all hit in very rapid succession
raven silo
Bow would be real good with zeus otherwise I think
junior galleon
Lie zeus would just add a huge base damage bonus to each shot
flat vapor
thought it was just thunder flourish that had a cooldown
nothing else really hits as fast chiron special, the cooldown is irrelevant otherwise
stuck comet
Dude the beowulf shield is soooo cool
gusty slate
It's a bit slow
vast junco
@flat vapor chaos shield shotgun
shy pasture
beowulf best shield aspect imo
stuck comet
How is it even a spoiler- yeah, it’s slow but I think it feels like the ||Excaibur||
jade crescent
most the shotguns in this game are bad 😦
gusty slate
The names of the legendary aspects tend to be spoiler area
junior galleon
The name is the spoiler:v
junior galleon
Just say secret shield
gusty slate
That's what I heard
stuck comet
The special magic shield is cool
stuck comet
It’s more like a board
junior galleon
I like secret sword aspect .
Use that with the dodge keepsake and you get so strong
jagged ivy
most the shotguns in this game are bad 😦
@jade crescent spread fire is right there lol
fair dove
Is serrated point good??
gusty slate
Sword 4th can get some big numbers
fair dove
I’ve never taken it
jagged ivy
yeah
jade crescent
spread fire?
stuck comet
I use the Max health keepsake so that I have 200 base health and don’t die
jagged ivy
yes
fair dove
Might have to try that next time
jagged ivy
hammer on adamant rail
fair dove
I’m getting no damage on spear bruh
jade crescent
you mean the bow's special?
jagged ivy
sauce it's really good with artemis dash
jade crescent
ah
gusty slate
We talking shotgun rail?
stuck comet
The spear is great, I haven’t used it in awhile though
vast junco
@fair dove serrated is one of the best spear hammers for just enabling more damage easily
junior galleon
My first win was with spear. Abused the arrow shooting from artemis
It was so hillariously op
gusty slate
shotgun rail is the most amusing thing in the game to me lol
fair dove
Neither fist or shield has failed me in the damage department
jagged ivy
@gusty slate yeah I felt hurt that they said there is no good shotgun
fair dove
Spear just... yikes
jade crescent
bruh this maxed out ares blade build sucks
jagged ivy
I like zag spear, and serrated is super fun
fair dove
Idek how
jade crescent
black medal, engulfing vortex, and the legendary and it's still trash
fair dove
But I’m legit not doing damage on spear
vast junco
serrated point is best paired with hades spear after punishing sweeps
gusty slate
Spin2win Ares has some interesting duos
vast junco
works well with achilles rush boost as well
jagged ivy
by that I mean the artemis one
raven silo
Spear is fun to spam the special
gusty slate
but his legendary with call is good damage
jade crescent
sadly I didnt get any duos with it
raven silo
Ehh Artemis cast isnt 100% necissary
raven silo
If you have the one that pulls enemies in it works well for randos
stuck comet
With the spear I prefer to use boiling blood, and rack up some nice damage buffs
raven silo
But yeah bosses idk
raven silo
That's the uhhh demeter call or is it the area demeter duo
gusty slate
Can't find it
raven silo
If it's the demeter call, then yes I like it a lot
jagged ivy
freezing fortex and hunting blades is literally the same as crystal clarity and cold embrace
hazy hatch
so uh
raven silo
Otherwise, I haven't gotten it yet
jagged ivy
(demeter call is nice though)
hazy hatch
how do I aspect of ||rama||?
gusty slate
#h1-story-discussion has it pinned
hazy hatch
I accidentally picked it and I want to keep this streak alive
gusty slate
Might need to have the bow equipped?
hazy hatch
no, I mean how do I use it :V
vast junco
@hazy hatch might want to take that to #h1-builds-and-combat for convenience since aspect spoilers aren't an issue there
hazy hatch
yeet
gusty slate
Or you can mark people and make your primary attack do extra damage
junior galleon
I wish demeter had a boon that allows to stack more chill
gusty slate
Can stack 10 though?
jagged ivy
10 is more than enough
raven silo
Does chill even do much to bosses
gusty slate
It slows them down, and still benefits from other Dem boons
raven silo
I usually take the 10 then burst for free damage
raven silo
Haven't gotten decay too many times but I'm sure it's great boss damage
supple field
wish me luck with ||charon|| 😬
raven silo
Lucl
gusty slate
Good luck!
raven silo
wishes you luck too
jagged ivy
chill and ||arthur special|| is super funny lol. Even got dio/athena duo with it
worn jacinth
Hello
Any guys of you really felt this game helps with depression a lot?
gusty slate
Legendary sword is funny with all the def boost and Hermes dash to regain lost hp
worn jacinth
The whole thing of repeating again and again and stuck in same thing but maybe a little better each time
gusty slate
It's a wholesome game
raven silo
I was slightly confused for a sec and thought you meant a different dio but I'm sure that one still applies with all the slowness you apply
jagged ivy
hah
gusty slate
Dio has a boon that slows poisoned peeps
jagged ivy
I tend not to use video games to help when I'm feeling depressed, but yeah it's a fun game to relax with sometimes
but yeah
I got to run actual circles around things and never laughed harder
uncut thorn
zag, to orpheus: you expected the son of hades but it was me! dio!
worn jacinth
Nier Automata was famous for helping with depression with a similar theme but I find this one to be way more direct and on mark
(Love that game)
😆😆😆
raven silo
This has concluded your funny jojo reference.
flat vapor
@vast junco playing chaos shield in 1.0 
vast junco
listen i still made a thunder flourish chaos shield run work at 45 the other day but
yeah it felt awful compared to pre-1.0
vast junco
i'm just too addicted to thunder flourish on it, which is directly worse after the rework for it specifically 😔
flat vapor
using aegis shield of chaos chaos aspect in the version of hades™️ one point oh
vast junco
chaos aspect has fallen so that bow could rise
flat vapor
bow mains (being me) are very happy so
halcyon blade
Hey guys? Just wondering if there is any way to compare times with friends?? Havent noticed anywhere to do it is all :)
vast junco
there's no ingame connectivity for friend leaderboards or anything analogous, if that's what you mean
just have to compare times manually
flat vapor
you’d have to take screenshots and share them with each other
though a leaderboard would be a neat feature to add
halcyon blade
Yeah thats what i meant!
Thanks for the replies
Yeah would be a great feature!
junior galleon
Chaos mode idea: all boons become chaos boons. You have to take a chaos boon each time you get one offered.
jagged ivy
that will be super polarizing lol
jagged ivy
but you'll probably just win the game
if you get enough attack or special or cast
unless you then get cursed on it
junior galleon
But like you have a lot of restrictions too
Ohh maybe a new heat:
At the start of the area choose a negativ chaos condition. It applies for the whole area(excluding boss)
jagged ivy
sounds frustrating
junior galleon
(I should maybe write these ideas into feedback)
jagged ivy
imagine going adamant rail with zeus strike and getting locked into special lol
hidden drift
Anyone else unable to give hades even a single nectar? I was able to on my old playthrough but on my hell mode one I haven't been able to and I'm at 40+ runs
unborn haven
for the new aspect, ||do i have to equip the weapon and find the miniboss or any weapon will do?||
jagged ivy
I think it's interesting though @junior galleon I would love to try that
jagged ivy
@unborn haven ||I think equip the weapon||
unborn haven
@unborn haven ||I think equip the weapon||
@jagged ivy thanks. but no luck so far
jagged ivy
yeah it took me a couple tries myself
don't fret, just keep trying
||I got it as soon as I tried Zag aspect but that could be unrelated. Just be sure that you have spent at leas 5 titan blood upgrading the fists||
young epoch
how you guys aim the railgun special on pad btw
same as dyonisus cast
it feels terrible
with moving enemies and that kinda autoaim
jagged ivy
I'm constantly split between using controller or keyboard and mouse honestly
young epoch
nah for me it's defo controller
if i gotta use mouse to aim i would just skip on the railgun tbh
dyonisus cast is still playable though hera aspect
fringe bronze
I have a quick question, does hades support 4k on pc?
fringe bronze
4K. Sorry autocorrect sucks
graceful umbra
I'm having the same issue. M/K can aim a different direction from the movement. Controller is more comfortable.
graceful umbra
Yeah. I was just testing it out
young epoch
WTH
jagged ivy
super helps with the rail gun
jagged ivy
so sometimes I go keyboard for rail and controller for everything else
potent carbon
jagged ivy
bow doesn't really make a difference, it's a timing thing anyways you can turn around
unborn haven
how you guys aim the railgun special on pad btw
@young epoch i dont aim. just face the enemy and press Y
unless i have the multiple bomb upgrade. then i pull towards my character. need to be close to the enemy
young epoch
actually yeah makes sense that way
unborn haven
make sure aim assist is on
young epoch
only times i'm using railgun is with zeus attack and just avoid the special
might give special a try too
instead of just going "hurr durr it's like mallets but with range"
unborn haven
rocket special is fun too
young epoch
yeah i got that one daedalus once but it was kinda slow
i probably didnt have any good boon on it either so i really was unimpressed with the rail
my first successful rail escape took me so many tries lol
unborn haven
there uis a make special faster upgrade. more viable
smoky wharf
Hey quick question, does anyone know what the very bottom person on the codex is? I'm trying to get the achievement for using all the keepsakes once but I haven't come across them at all... Do I need beat the final boss before they show up?
supple field
yes
smoky wharf
ah
unborn haven
ya
smoky wharf
gotcha
tulip ocean
can anyone give me tips for the theseus/minotaur fight?
not sure how to deal with shield enemies period tbh
junior galleon
I just completly focus on mino first and when he is gone I do theseus
tulip ocean
I have been doing that as well, but I still die. I just killed mino for the first time last run
novel nova
O make sure i maim astarius
Then go for theseus
I have a hard time with hades
But i still beat him
Charon on the other hand
Ooof
junior galleon
Spoilers e.e
smoky wharf
I think in all honesty my problem is by hades im playing recklessly so if i take time and fight slower then the fight will go easier
timber topaz
Pardon me, quick question: I've got a friend who's playing on switch, and the gun doesn't want to reload manually. Just so we're all on the same page, which button does that?
timber topaz
Okay slick, I thought it might be, but I wanted to get confirmation from someone who would know
Thanks for your time.
smoky wharf
Alright all good man, hope he figures it out (took me a little bit to realize it was right stick so you're all good)
timber topaz
I'm sure she'll be glad for the advice 😁
smoky wharf
Ugh i never have any nectar when i come across eurydice
its her and ||persephone|| are the last two people i need to give nectar
warm dove
try fate roll yet?
smoky wharf
Fate roll?
warm dove
when you see darkness, key, gem you roll to nectar
smoky wharf
ah i don't think i've gotten that yet
warm dove
yeb the last upgrade in the mirror
warm dove
oh boy you have lots of run to do
warm dove
addicted yet?
smoky wharf
in all honesty im surprised i've been able to reach elysium then ||hades|| already
oh yeah im definitely addicted man
been wanting to play the game nonstop
warm dove
lul 
smoky wharf
I mean i have 25+ runs and i've only had the game about 2 days
supple field
im at 52 runs and i got the game on the 17th
smoky wharf
imma surpass your run number in less time
supple field
i've also been going to classes and working
tulip ocean
I have 19 already and had the game 2 days as well
smoky wharf
Ah
split swift
Had a thought earlier,||I wonder what they'll do with the empty spaces on the third row of the heirloom cabinet||
supple field
i have classes online as well
smoky wharf
ah
split swift
I think I just cracked 73 runs today lol
supple field
but i have to actually pay attention
junior galleon
Not a expert but probably ad more ||heirlooms one day||
smoky wharf
I mean in my AP chem class i have to pay attention but tomorrow I have P.E. but they can't really force us to do anything since our cameras aren't required so i treat it like a free period
supple field
oml so much darkness for ||chaos sigil||
is there a full guide for favors for everyone?
also does anyone else get maggie smith vibes from demeter
glass dirge
I did all the required steps to unlock Guan Yu, but still can't get Achilles dialogue about he "phoenix'
Is it an RNG chance or something?
supple field
its rng
glass dirge
hmm I have hard quick reset to RNG his dialogue but still nothing
sterile light
yo guys
was there a stygian soul cooldown indicator at some point?
because I'm having trouble seeing when my casts are up
sterile light
yeah it's way on the corner of the screen.
hazy hatch
I'm so upset
soft nimbus
Oooh you can barely see it
hazy hatch
I keep missing asterius completely on my malphon runs
soft nimbus
Yee I feel ya with that
sterile light
I was wondering if there was a cooldown indicator that indicates on Zag so I don't have to look away for 0.3 seconds
smoky wharf
Bout to fight the Elysium bosses, wish me luck
hazy hatch
gl
soft nimbus
@hazy hatch brother, lemme tell ya
sterile light
@hazy hatch is this for the new fist?
hazy hatch
I reached the epilogue and I still don't have the new aspect
sterile light
because you don't need to do malphon runs specifically for it.
hazy hatch
NotLikeThis
sterile light
you can get it on any weapon.
soft nimbus
I got the Asterius dialogue, and then RIGHT as I was about to enter the final screen my laptop died.
And I had to restart until I got him 3 tries later.
I got it with the spear finally
smoky wharf
I beat them, but sacrificed 1 death defiance...
hazy hatch
1 is fine!
smoky wharf
yeah
smoky wharf
I've yet to beat|| hades|| though so my confidence isn't very high
soft nimbus
You got this bro
smoky halo
just call him redacted
soft nimbus
It's just practice at the end of the day
smoky halo
everyone who should know what you are talking about will know
smoky wharf
Fair thats what hypnos calls him
smoky halo
exactly
misty ruin
I’ve finished unlocking the mirror, and all the weapons. Without spoiling anything, will there be more uses for keys besides exchanging for other items or resetting the mirror?
soft nimbus
Yes
smoky halo
oh dam really?
smoky wharf
Well in that case, I've reached redacted 3 times, only once have i barely made it to the second phase
smoky halo
i been trading all my keys for necter
soft nimbus
Yes, but without spoiling it, it's not the end of the world if you don't save them all.
smoky halo
oh ok
smoky wharf
True
smoky halo
i think relationships are important then
soft nimbus
Definitely
smoky wharf
I'm sure if I take the fight slower and attempt to try and understand all his attacks then the fight will go a lot smoother and I'll have an easier time beating him
smoky halo
i almost have uh, achilies done
smoky wharf
Its just the rest of the game lends to being able to just go and kill without too much thought so its hard to switch on a dime
smoky halo
does cerberus have a quest?
soft nimbus
When it comes to fighting redacted, practice is really the only way.
smoky wharf
Yeah
smoky halo
when it comes to redacted
smoky wharf
Sucks that it can take a bit to reach redacted
smoky halo
i find loading up on a massive amount of boons really helps
soft nimbus
How do you do the little black bar thingy?
smoky wharf
the only other boss that gives me trouble is the elysium boss, but thats because i can be a bit careless at times
that and the rail isn't my best weapon
smoky halo
the dammed spear is so anoying
like i can usually do really well on the mini boss version of that fight
soft nimbus
It's best to kill one first and leave the other alone.
smoky wharf
God don't you just love when there is barely anywhere to stand where there isn't poison on the floor...
misty ruin
Put ||spoiler text|| between two pairs of pipe characters
Highlight text to show the mark as spoiler formatting shortcut if you can’t remember that
smoky halo
you can also highlight it, right click and chose the spoiler tag
huh dont even need to right click
just highlight and click the eye icon
if on pc
misty ruin
On iOS it shows up alongside the cut/copy/paste options for highlighted text
On PC it’s a bit weird because it doesn’t show up while highlighting with the keyboard, only by highlighting with the mouse
smoky wharf
OOoooh, "While you have no death defiances you slowly recover health"
smoky halo
yea thats nice for the redacted fight
smoky wharf
Very
soft nimbus
Demeter Athena is fun early
soft nimbus
Redacted attacks are the same as 2 dashes, so your best bet is to go for Hermes and search for the multi dash.
smoky halo
im doing alright
smoky wharf
So genuine question
smoky halo
man i kinda wish hermes had a rarity trinket
broken field
what did patch ad/fix?
smoky wharf
Do i go straight to redacted now that I have the sack or do I do the rest of the rooms so i can be better prepared
soft nimbus
Depends
smoky halo
really? i only got his feather
soft nimbus
Oh that's what I meant
soft nimbus
So when it comes to the extra rooms, if you're inexperienced, the best bet isn't to finish the rest.
smoky halo
fast
smoky wharf
Alright
hazy hatch
if I have an empty DD and an athena room left, or if I've only seen one or zero wells, I do other chambers
soft nimbus
Because there's no fountains
hazy hatch
otherwise I always go straight in
smoky halo
i always guage how much i want the extra stuff
smoky wharf
At least it means not having to fight ||Tiny Rat|| again
smoky halo
vs ho wmuch health and stuff for healing i have
smoky wharf
Wish me luck
hazy hatch
glglgl
smoky halo
gl man
soft nimbus
When I was grinding my streak I was always going for the extra rooms to get enough gold for the diamond or Titan blood offered.
smoky wharf
Going to fight redacted now
soft nimbus
Glhf
smoky halo
i love picking up the uh side hustle
soft nimbus
Yeeterino
smoky halo
to get that shop cleaered out
soft nimbus
But Dash is always first for me
smoky halo
im still trying to complete hermes proohicy
misty ruin
Should I save up another diamond to unlock Erebus Gates or buy one of the 3 diamond perks?
smoky halo
so i sometimes have to take like a speed buff to try and get that last one
supple field
i still havent successfully cleared erebus without taking damage so i'd say go for the perks
smoky halo
yea the perks are more consistant
soft nimbus
Yep Perks is the way to go.
Unless you're really wanting to go high heat, but the perks are kinda needed for that anyways.
smoky halo
well once you get high heat you will have enough dimonds to get erberus gates
smoky wharf
||Phase 2||
smoky halo
use all your dds yet?
misty ruin
Fated authority perk or max health perk?
smoky wharf
Oh no ||phase 3||
smoky wharf
Wait am i finished
fading gazelle
@smoky wharf Please spoiler all details about the final fight
smoky wharf
Oh sorry
fading gazelle
It is spoilers in this channel
supple field
||redacted only has a phase 3 if you're in extreme measures||
smoky halo
yea i was gonna say
smoky wharf
I'm only alive because of my duo perk where i recover health from having no death defiances
Oh
I didn't know that
I've just heard of a boss having ||3 phases||
fading gazelle
Shush
smoky halo
now go enjoy the fruits of your labor
smoky wharf
so thats great i've won then
smoky halo
go through the glowy arch
fading gazelle
Is this your first win?
fading gazelle
Post a screenshot in #h1-victory-boasting ! 
smoky halo
dude dont talk to us
smoky wharf
Gotcha
hollow hazel
Redacted isn't that hard tto be honest. They have some easy reads and vulnerable times after attacks. I personally think heroes are harder.
smoky halo
enjoy it
iron badge
i made a huge mistake
misty ruin
Same John
fading gazelle
@iron badge ?
fading gazelle
It's not that bad
smoky wharf
Honestly its because of his tells that I got as far as I did
smoky halo
thats always fun
iron badge
WHILE i had benefits package on
i beat him 5 to 56, getting the achievement
at the cost of two lives
smoky halo
dam
misty ruin
I die a lot to ||hades|| but often just because of prior areas pressuring my health resources
fading gazelle
Sacrifices must be made
smoky halo
personally i hate the uh
||mini boss witch room on the second floor|| not sure if this is a spoiler or not
hollow hazel
Also, Artemis is def best girl
smoky wharf
Also I beat the game but I don't have any nectar on me so i'm gonna need to beat it again aren't I...
smoky halo
just go
smoky wharf
k
smoky halo
dont talk to us
smoky wharf
Wha...
smoky halo
experience it
smoky wharf
ok
smoky halo
come back when its over
hollow hazel
Artemis is the only one I want to || romance ||
smoky halo
just romance the picture on your wall
hollow hazel
I don't think I can spoiler on mobile lol. Realizing that now
smoky halo
yea you can
hollow hazel
|| like this? ||
smoky halo
yes
fading gazelle
yes
granite ether
Artemis does not reciprocate your ||want to romance her||
hollow hazel
Oh, I thought it was only one |
misty ruin
On iOS a shortcut shows up in the context menu on highlighted text after pressing ▶️
supple field
o: i just got 188 gems from redacted
fading gazelle
Nice
smoky halo
wait you can get gems from him?