short gate
yeah, like it has to be a kneejerk kinda thing
#h1-discussion
narrow hemlock
i am trying to leave to eat but i just had a nonsensical mental image
zag: hey, over here, theseus
theseus, turning away from the audience: in a hurry to meet experience defeat, fien--wh
zag: [has lifted asterius over his head with his fancy new gloves]
asterius: [bewildered moo]
now i yeet
short bear
Quick question: Are Hades and Demeter hear events locked out in the current build? They have a little clock icon on them
rough token
@short bear yes
short bear
Ok, that's what I figured. Thanks for confirming
rough token
o7 sure thing!
fierce ice
any use for ambrosia after maxing out all relationships and companions?
flat vapor
broker trades
viral rover
Saving up for Whatever Happens Next?™️
mossy lily
How about they make rail standing reload not make you stuck in its static animation, and make so you move while doing it
Just the same as reloading while walking
brisk trail
Ooh, put that in #hades-feedback
mossy lily
I cannot
rough token
Read the pins in that channel ^.^
onyx cape
I need a new arpg with clean combat and ability customization and long play/replay value. Any suggestions? I'm about 400hrs into Hades and need to leave it be for a bit
brisk trail
I'm not 100% on ability customization, but HZD just hit PC earlier this month.
rough token
(answered in #off-topic-discussion )
scenic canopy
which is better, deadly defiance or incessant defiance?
rough token
Both are good, in different situations
If you find you struggle to consistently make it though rooms (or are playing on high heat), you'll often want Stubborn Defiance. If you tend to stuggle against bosses, go for Death Defiance.
scenic canopy
Yes, 90% of the time I die is in bosses
rough token
Then you'll want Death Defiance ^.^
scenic canopy
ok thanks
scenic canopy
and how do i get titan blood?
rough token
By defeating the first boss with each weapon. You'll be able to get more || once you beat the final boss ||
scenic canopy
thank you
rough token
o7
onyx cape
@brisk trail what's hzd?
mossy lily
is it possible to reach 100% dmg reduction
quaint wind
that would be so funny if it was
mossy lily
sturdy gives 30, aphro with upgrade boons gives abour 45, bracer gives 30
plus resistance boons
radiant harbor
rough token
I believe damage reduction is calculated similarly to dodge chance?
keen talon
don't those three combine to 68%?
flat vapor
dmg reduction and dodge are both multiplicative
brazen salmon
@onyx cape HZD is Horizon: Zero Dawn. Sadly, it seems that the PC version has many issues, based on the mixed Steam reviews
rough token
(that discussion was moved to #video-games , btw)
rigid reef
It happens again. I had to sell my Epic Heartbreak Flourish. UC is fun. 
steep mulch
its not a big deal, as long as you dont forget about it
unless you are actively avoiding boons, you will always have 2 or more offered per biome
not to mention shops
outer path
guys can someone explain to me how to unlock each hidden aspect for the weapons, for my friend since I forgot how I unlock it all
fickle jewel
im sure that this question has been asked repeatedly, but is there an estimate date for Hades' next patch? 
void vigil
@outer path check the pins in #h1-story-discussion
@fickle jewel there is no estimate, just sometime later this year
fickle jewel
gotcha 
broken tapir
||Can we please have a codex entry for Bouldy that only show up if you have given Bouldy 10 nectar||
past mirage
||"A rock with crude carvings resembling a face. Its weight is almost, but not quite insurmountable, and it falls to the late King Sisyphus to push it up a hill for all eternity as punishment for various transgressions during his former life, including tricking Death. He is now forever doomed to succeeding almost, but not quite. According to some reports, he has also forged some odd companionship with the rock, as witnesses claim he is talking to it as if it were alive. Lately, the Prince has taken up this habit, and I fear his sanity has been damaged over the course of his many bloody attempts to reach the surface..."||
viral rover
||". . . ." - Witness testimony||
rough token
Honestly, could drop those both into #hades-feedback
tired axle
so, i changed pc's and wanted to ask
is my progress saved in the cloud
?
or was it on the pc?
haven't installed it again yet
rough token
@tired axle EGS or Steam?
tired axle
Steam
rough token
Should be on the Cloud, but it's definitely also saved to PC
Both of them save to PC, EGS just doesn't have working Cloud Saves rn
tired axle
oh, lucky me then :))
rough token
Aight ^.^
thick tartan
hi all. still no info when v1.0?
rough token
Later this year ^.^ anything else will be in #announcements
thick tartan
well... it will be long year...
narrow hemlock
they'll have information when they're ready to share it with us ♥
we're only a bit over a month out from blood price, and i would say from blood price to 1.0 would probably at minimum be about two months. but realistically it may be longer than that
marsh rivet
how long was Nighty Night?
narrow hemlock
from long winter to nighty night was like 2 months
most of the updates were inbetween 2-3 months apart i think, but thats no guarantee on how long 1.0 will take
nighty night to blood price was closer to 3, if thats what you were asking
marsh rivet
Hmm, and there wasn't any significant content additions from Nighty Night to Blood Price. Considering they'll have to do a lot more art, animation, dialogue, and another aspect, not to include the billion polish things to prepare for 1.0 yeah it wouldn't really surprise me if it was significantly longer than 2 months this time.
narrow hemlock
blood price was a lot of back end performance work, thats actually significant in itself
thats why blood price took a little longer, making sure the technical aspects of the game would fare well on a wider range of computer specs
marsh rivet
I'm definitely not minimizing it, I'm just saying for perspective on what they're scoping for 1.0, there is almost no way it would take the same amount of time as Blood Price.
(it would most certainly take longer)
narrow hemlock
unfortunately we are going to see people asking about 1.0 news probably every day for the next couple months lmao
narrow hemlock
sometimes i forget there are people playing that expect hades to be a typical roguelike experience and not like. another supergiant entry that happens to have roguelike aspects
and i say that because i saw someone say to the effect of, its a shame there arent more gods/boons planned, the game is popular and that person doesnt want to see the game die off. and i had to just stop and stare at that
i think the game is doing well for what it wants to offer, not every game in the genre needs to be like some perpetually neverending experience lol
marsh rivet
I have thus far recommended people play the SGG games in order.
If anything, in the future, I will probably recommend Hades be saved for last because it is by far the most time-consuming (in the good way) and non-ending one.
And unless SGG decides to do like an MMORPG that's not too likely to change lol
muted valley
Do you guys think during trial of gods, the boons of the god you didn't choose be blocked/unusable for the trial. A counterbalance can be that the god you chose has all boon (from that god) abilities doubled.
nimble ocean
I think that already works with calls
muted valley
I dont think so, cause i remember once using an Athena call during it while athena was angry at me.
brisk trail
There are no gameplay changes put on Zag during Trials.
And I don't think there should be.
cloud apex
God's effects are already threatening enough
narrow hemlock
yeah i really dont see the purpose in blocking the boons of the scorned god and buffing the effects of the chosen one. blocking use of boons and not even being a pact effect seems contradictory to the game's design
something like that may have been interesting to play around with earlier in the game's development but i also think we're like.... too far in for changing up mechanics in such a way
flat vapor
trials, since they are room rewards, should be actively beneficial to the player
blocking out boons of the spurned god would straight up cause them to never be useful again
narrow hemlock
i think the intent was blocking them for that trial specifically, not for the rest of the run. but even still i disgree with the idea of it
flat vapor
no that's what i mean
there's already a sense of risk involved, but blocking out spurned boons (during a trial) would totally outweigh any possible benefit a trial would have
narrow hemlock
eh i still dont see how they would 'never be useful again,' seems a bit hyperbolic. but all the same its inherently an idea that doesnt work with the game in its current state
also sounds like a nightmare in high heat
flat vapor
it's a bit hyperbolic i'll admit, but more often than not the gods in a trial will be ones whose boons are very useful to your build
calm orbit
you'd still get the benefit of two boons from one room tho
flat vapor
so much so that losing them would cause you to take a lot more damage/die/waste more time during the trial, which an extra boon really doesn't compensate for imo
narrow hemlock
agreed honestly
like i said i think that could have been something interesting to try early on in development but with the next update being full launch, something like that is actively harmful to a run's sense of progression
i think part of this can amount to people wanting scorning gods/bonding with gods to do more since as things currently stand, none of that affects anything really
flat vapor
i can understand that, but imo it showcases the very fickle nature of the gods quite nicely
narrow hemlock
i had a thought i was going with that and then i lost it midway so f to that, but yeah. also its just funnier still being able to use calls for scorned gods, i would hate to lose that :v
calm orbit
yeah Zag's awkward little "sorry!" is funny
brisk trail
can someone drop some hades challenges? been farming up heats after beating the game but i want something to do while im also working on relationships
narrow hemlock
o yah we're taking a break rn I think
rough token
@brisk trail I got some challenges for you:
Beat the game without any core boons. If you're forced to pick up a boon, you cannot use the associated ability until you sell the boon. This includes during boss fights. Any weapon/aspect, hammers are allowed.
Bonus Challenge: Beat the game without any boons (you must reset if you're forced into a boon and you gain the effect from it)
Beat the game with just your dash (as in, you must unbind attack, special, cast, and call)
brisk trail
thats what im talking about alright thanks guys :)
rough token
Sure thing ^.^
agile saddle
The developers really said "why don't me make a biome with the most annoying enemies ever in any game!" "Yes and we call it Elysium!"
high island
Annoying enemies?
marsh rivet
If anything I find Styx or Asphodel with BP2 more annoying than Elysium. Chariots don't really "annoy" me as much as they kill me instantly
Speeder Wavemakers or Puller Slamdancers are definitely in the "annoying" bucket though.
Seeker Spreaders >_>
high island
The only ones I think are really a problem of those are Speeder Wavemakers.
marsh rivet
I don't think any of them are particularly problematic, but I mentally lump "annoying" and "bad design" in separate buckets.
BP2 FO2 HL5 Chariots are definitely in the "bad design" bucket, as are Greatshield waves that can travel through terrain. Things that annoy me though are manageable, but just... annoying. Big rats are kind of in both buckets for me
Puller rats when you're melee is no bueno
high island
I wouldn't consider any of them bad design. They're all problems that can be solved.
marsh rivet
I don't think "bad design" and "solvable problem" are mutually exclusive concepts. The issue with Chariots for me is that they spawn in too high numbers for their difficulty. Rats have an attack animation kind of, but the windup is so hard to discern, especially when they're all shaky and poisony
terse geyser
chariots just bonk too quickly
agile saddle
Elysium is just bad. Lancers who have as much range as the bow and can insta leap/swords who have full screen projectiles that go through walls/shielders with giant aoe and full screen projectiles that go through walls/chariots that can insta kill you(lol if they have armor)/butterfly balls who cover the screen in full screen projectiles that go through walls/traps that are hard to see(the statues)/and on top of all that if u dont kill the little spirits u get to fight them again
marsh rivet
Shifter Chariots also kind of cheatyface most approaches. It feels less like problem solving and more like "please don't blink away from me or on top of me"
high island
The statues aren't hard to see. You're just not paying attention to your surroundings, or you're unfamiliar with the maps.
agile saddle
most my runs go to garbage in Elysium
i have been playing since Steam release. pretty familiar
high island
Well, it's supposed to be more difficult than the areas before that.
agile saddle
difficulty and unfun mechanics aren't one and the same
marsh rivet
Lol, @high island, that's a bold claim. Just because you can see them easily doesn't mean everyone can. I don't really agree with most of his assertions but it's hard to dispute his visual processing
agile saddle
the statues are literally a light purple. Elisyum color palette is green/purple
also dodging 3 chariots who can easily end me its hard to see the statues
marsh rivet
What statues are you referring to?
agile saddle
the traps
agile saddle
the bows are fine cause the arrows are slow moving and huge/pink
its the spear ones
marsh rivet
Oh... yeah, I don't personally have issues seeing them but I do get hit by them fairly regularly in chaotic situations
high island
They're always in the same position on each map. So, if you're familiar with the maps, as you say, you should already know where they are.
marsh rivet
Besides BP2 Chariots and some weird projectile clipping issues with Greatshields I don't really see any of the enemy types in Elysium being particularly unfair. The attacks have pretty discrete ranges and telegraphs. The timer is really the biggest issue I have.
agile saddle
u can still stub your toe on your bed that's been in the same spot for 10 years
fading gazelle
Bruh
high island
Yes, but I don't stub my toe every other day and complain I can't see my bed.
digital roost
Yeah, my bed is also very hard to see...
fading gazelle
I don't have a bed
high island
Maybe you're just simply not as familiar with the maps as you think. There's always room for improvement.
fading gazelle
Problem solved
marsh rivet
Maybe save a run in the fountain room before Elysium and grind out the rooms that you have issues with? It's what I had to do to deal with Speeder Greatshields, which I found grossly unfair until I sat down and learned their timings
digital roost
But I agree these traps can be hard to see. At first I was getting hit all the time by them, though now it's okay my brain finally managed to process them
high island
Yeah, that's a good idea.
agile saddle
the statues dont move but the enemies do. i am not walking into statues but when u are on high heat and BP it can be extremely hard to see
high island
You can also record and study your runs and find strategies for difficult rooms in Elysium that way.
agile saddle
traps in Tart/Asphodel are clear and dont blend in.
marsh rivet
I should probably just save most of my Elysium runs in general in case I do stumble upon Shifter Chariots. I so rarely see them but I'm so unhappy when I do lol
agile saddle
Styx is whatever
fading gazelle
Probably cause in Asphodel its the entire floor
agile saddle
and the smoke vents
fading gazelle
You count those as traps?
agile saddle
they dont damage but still a trap
marsh rivet
They control a lot of space yeah
high island
I step way more on spike traps in Tartarus than I get hit by any traps in Elysium lol.
fading gazelle
More then the Magma???
agile saddle
most times magma is easily dodged over. a couple maps have small broken up platforms
high island
I also step on magma way more than I get hit by Elysium traps.
fading gazelle
most times magma is easily dodged over. a couple maps have small broken up platforms
I strongly disagree
agile saddle
its the heads and spell guys who sit in the magma when u are melee
marsh rivet
Lernie's EM2 room has some obnoxious debris placements on the borders of the north island that are pretty easy to get caught behind if you're dash spamming. It counts as being in magma though it doesn't really visually look like it should
fading gazelle
I absolutely second that
marsh rivet
I"ll copy pasta to feedback, I thought it was just me
fading gazelle
EM2 Lernie has given me more pain than any heat combined
high island
lol I went with HL0 for 45 Talos because of Lernie head slams.
fading gazelle
I'm overstating, nothing gives more pain than BP2 and FO2
terse geyser
does anybody use FO1?
fading gazelle
I don't think so?
vast junco
I think bablo has on some of his runs
fading gazelle
I mean you might as well go all the way right?
vast junco
But yeah personally I leave FO at 2
marsh rivet
Depends on the person. If you play mostly reactively then FO1 is fine, but if you play with timings in mind then it gets kinda gross lol.
I've definitely expected a Lout to charge me, dashed, charged an attack, only for it to slowly turn in my direction then charge
high island
FO0 is way easier than FO2.
fading gazelle
terse geyser
Meg has those weird, delayed attacks really often
marsh rivet
I despise Meg in EM1 FO2
vast junco
I don't think she's that bad honestly
fading gazelle
I despise everything in FO2
high island
I do think she's the worst to face now with EM.
But, 1 of them's got to be. So I guess it's fine lol.
fading gazelle
EM 2 is still not that difficult as the super secret EM 4 but that's just my opinion
marsh rivet
I don't think she's particularly hard (def the hardest of the 3 though), but I just hate the experience lol. Between the weird slow attacks and the huge pauses for charges that make it hard to gauge if it's safe to attack (so I usually end up waiting), the inopportune invuln phases, and the circles of death that somehow always lead me to jumping into spikes or Alecto Blade Rifts
terse geyser
whoa careful
let's not be talking about super secret EM 4 in the spoiler-free chat 
high island
Those circles are such a pain with RI3.
vast junco
She acts pretty consistently for me, most of the time. She does her zip to close distance, sometimes obviously runs towards you with intent to whip spin. It's pretty readable
slate jetty
does anybody use FO1?
I do
vast junco
The circles aren't as bad once I started just single dashing for each wave
Instead of using both for each
high island
Well, I do only have 1 dash with RI3 lol.
marsh rivet
Yeah I agree @vast junco. It's just that with the other two, you can bum-rush them to get them to stop doing their stuff, and you actually have to respect Meg's mechanics
high island
@rough token no. 🔫
terse geyser
@high island really? 🔫
fading gazelle
insert "always has been" meme
pliant torrent
does anybody use FO1?
some high heat stuff is just way harder with FO2, like some melee stuff and chiron
FO2 also gives you less opportunies to attack some enemies, and kinda drags the timer which is already a bit of a problem
unkempt sleet
FO makes enemies spawn faster, which saves a lot of time. You need to adjust your timings though.
pliant torrent
i'd say the time save from FO is more relevant for speedruns than 40+ heat
lofty karma
Yo guys, I have a question, I have 28 hours in on Hades, yet I only managed to beat it with 2 weapons on 0 heat. My mirror is almost 100% upgraded (apart from the Moir change thingy and one death defiance upgrade) Should I just git gud? Or is there some way to beat it more easily? I've started experimenting by aiming towards one specific build that plays well in my head, is this actually the proper way?
steel flicker
Time itself will make you git gud so I wouldn't worry about that. As far as "the proper way" is concerned, I think you can play hades in a bunch of different ways. If you're just trying to beat the game then I would suggest just testing various paths of progression. The most obvious way to do that is to follow the benefits of available Talismans and also choosing the most "cost-efficient" playstyle in terms of your HP.
cloud apex
Knowing what you try to go for is indeed helpful to reach the result quickly though, yeah
digital roost
I had trouble at first too. What I found useful was to try and focus on fewer gods rather than take whatever was offered to me, and to strengthen one or two specific moves. For instance, if I get a boon that makes my special much stronger, I try to focus on this for the next boons (aiming for the same god or if not possible boons that seem to go well with what I already have)
Is there a fight you typically have trouble with?
steep mulch
you can also try learning the moves of a boss that is giving you trouble. Try just avoiding it for a while, without killing it.
keep in mind that you are invulnerable while dahsing
and that you can chain dashes
lofty karma
Is there a fight you typically have trouble with?
@digital roost Hades I guess, I reach him quite often, but he gives me hard time
crisp bluff
@lofty karma idk for me the first time i started to beat him easily was when i started to play passive first face and go all in second and try to do as much damage as possible
and also staying far away do dodge spin and the boiling blood projectile
crisp bluff
ye just try to keep range and also the if you get hit by projectile he does miore damage on you so wait it out
lofty karma
oh ok, I didnt know what that Green Skull does
digital roost
Final boss: ||The spin has a strange timing... There is a small delay between the preparation and the actual attack so if you only have one dash you need to time it and not do it right away.||
lofty karma
Final boss: ||yeah, exactly, there is that indicator, and if you aren't far enough you shouldn't really dash as you will get hit anyways. The only way is to wait until very last moment||
high island
Please use spoiler tags for the final boss—ideally move that discussion to #h1-builds-and-combat (where you won't need spoiler tags). 
crisp bluff
how do you use spoiler tags?
terse geyser
put || on each side of the spoiler
or highlight it while you're typing and click on the eye symbol
marsh rivet
No worries, people accidentally spoil stuff all the time. You fixed it 😛
digital roost
twilit sigil
I'm looking back on the chat and what do the FO2's and EM thingies mean?
Is there a key for this somewhere 0_0
terse geyser
Have you beat the final boss?
twilit sigil
Yup
terse geyser
||They're heat options. EM is Extreme Measures, FO is forced overtime||
twilit sigil
OH.
Alright, thanks!! I didn't know people had acronyms for them
but that makes sense
wet furnace
Does the Nose for Nectar run clear message actually count ambrosia? And if it does, is it actually a priority message? Because I managed to get 5 nectar + Ambrosia, but I got the Middle Management Cutter run clear message instead of Nose for Nectar.
sharp fossil
@twilit sigil there’s a key pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies if you get confused (like me, literally constantly lol)
twilit sigil
yessss thank you!!
cloud apex
@wet furnace i feel like wiki is the best help there, just type "Run Clear" in search tab
Sadly I can't visit that myself rn to give an answer
wet furnace
The wiki is actually why Im asking
Says it's priority and that ambrosia is counted for, and it also says Middle Management Cutter isnt priority
But as I mentioned, I got 5 nectar and ambrosia for the 6 total needed but got Middle Management instead 
cloud apex
Ah well then
narrow hemlock
I would have to check but I feel like ambrosia doesn't count
cannot say 100% but I can't look rn
livid cargo
Hades coming to Switch
umbral obsidian
frank ridge
It's on the Nintendo Stream!
livid cargo
Announced at the Nintendo Indie World event
sullen nebula
pog
honest bison
HADES ON SWITCH : DDDD
little inlet
YO this trailer is cool
idle horizon
HYPE
brisk trail
let's go !!
calm loom
cross save ❤️
warm hedge
Woop woop
manic bobcat
Wow that's exciting
spare harbor
YES YES YES
manic bobcat
Where can I watch this?
livid cargo
go to twitch
warm hedge
The trailer was pretty neat yea
livid cargo
youll find people streaming it
manic bobcat
Ok
warm hedge
Also on youtube
haughty umbra
OH YEAH
glad fossil
SGG... how dare can they be cooler than what I could imagine.
warm hedge
Just search nintendo on youtube and it will probably show up
honest bison
Full access scheduled for fall then?
livid cargo
Probably, anonn
tiny sage
I love you guys so mcuh for the cross save
paper peak
PYRE 
indigo verge
hades being the first thing shown in Nintendo's indie world with PC cross saves
manic bobcat
Yo the animation is sick
livid cargo
old news greg 
uncut jacinth
YES
paper peak
🙏
crude hazel
SPAM CLICKING ALL THE REACTIONS BECAUSE OF HYPE
halcyon mauve
cross save is kino
uncut jacinth
THIS IS ALL THAT I WANTED THANK YOU SUPER GIANT
whole mango
HADEEEESSSSS IS RELEASIIIIIING!!!!!11!!11
chilly stump
Hey @indigo verge ! We had to hold off to post up the announcement until after the trailer launched, so Nintendo could have the announcer position! We're happy you got to see it live.
whole mango
maiden spear
Will there be ingame achievements for people on the EGS or am I screwed over for supporting this game early? :/
crude hazel
THE VIDEO IS AMAZING
indigo verge
I was joking, but okay
nimble ocean
poggers
jaunty ginkgo
this is so exciting
viral rover
The only thing that could make this news better is there being a Collector's Edition a la Transistor, but I can wait for that 
paper peak
My initial comparison of Zagreus to TTGL's Kamina back at the first reveal has come full circle 
twilit sigil
POG
paper peak
our boy is anime now
livid ivy
oh yeah we're all weebs now
nimble ocean
do the impossible, see the invisible
sullen venture
This was a crazy great anime intro guys ! Congrats !
crude hazel
Hades anime 2021.
manic bobcat
It could be September or October
crude hazel
Or November.
manic bobcat
I'm gunning for Mid October release
crude hazel
I think?
pine torrent
Hell yes! and cross platform saves ❤️ ❤️
frank ridge
AHHH
raw swan
Zag got them Pantene Hair
manic bobcat
Give me 4th fists
crude hazel
I don't even know what counts as Fall anymore.
slate jetty
the animation in the trailer was breathtaking
fading gazelle
YO GUYS
manic bobcat
We anime now
nimble ocean
in 2020 definition of fall is undefined
candid glen
still no release date, i'm getting depressed
river ermine
Guys, what you all talking about?
narrow hemlock
holy god I look away for a few minutes
manic bobcat
2020 is falling all the time and everywhere
fading gazelle
WE ANIME NOW
narrow hemlock
fox that's too real
urban pier
this trailer was very beautiful, congratulations on the amazing work SuperGiant!
manic bobcat
Guys, what you all talking about?
@river ermine check announcement
fading gazelle
Oh Nice Fox
coarse junco
1.0 LAUNCH HYPE
fading gazelle
HYPE
dry crystal
PogU launch Hype
fading gazelle
Okay
cursive steppe
What a trailer
manic bobcat
It could be anytime in thr next 3 months
fading gazelle
WHO
manic bobcat
It could be tomorrow
manic bobcat
It's a head n shoulder ad
fading gazelle
@winged bear Already on it my boy
cyan stratus
is there going to be an anime based of hades? that would be cool :D
crude hazel
If only.
cyan stratus
the short trailer was well made
dry crystal
can't wait to see the ending after the last boss
final kayak
i can finally drag my uni friends, who are understandably early access-averse, in!!!!!
cyan stratus
one more boss after that last one?
final kayak
and ayyy, there's gonna be an ending!
indigo verge
didn't they say there wouldn't be a new last boss, I don't remember
cyan stratus
:(
dry crystal
no I dont mean a new boss, just that I want the lore part
crude hazel
They said there wouldn't be more zones, or more NPCs besides one.
narrow hemlock
Where gameplay ends currently is where it will end for 1.0
nimble ocean
they said, gameplay-wise, there is everything that was planned in-game already
everything but full story
manic bobcat
GUYS IT'S FAKE TRAILER. ORANGE HYDRA HEADS DON'T SPEW FIRE BALLS.
Literally unwatchable
livid hull
3-hour cutscene to wrap everything up PL0X SGG
cyan stratus
FAKE!!! RIOT
crude hazel
I just know I'm going to cry.
nimble ocean
i will miss current endings.. and dad's comments about renovations
terse geyser
that's what I was thinking @manic bobcat
crude hazel
I can feel myself going to cry.
manic bobcat
SGG please answer for this travesty
crude hazel
There is going to be so much conversation with granny winter that I have been hankering for.
tropic quiver
have they been consistent in how frequent they update the game?
nimble ocean
not exactly
cyan stratus
there will be more dlc or the game will be done after V1.0?
indigo verge
🤷
narrow hemlock
Undecided
tropic quiver
judging by the last two updates it's a difference of around 3 months so I hope october :/
indigo verge
maybe some post release patches
nimble ocean
we can only hope
indigo verge
dunno about DLC though
narrow hemlock
they won't speak of post 1.0 plans til 1.0 hits
nimble ocean
they never made any dlcs for their games
crude hazel
Except Bastion.
lost axle
crude hazel
The Stranger's Dream was DLC.
bold cliff
HOLY GOD
noble jacinth
Poggers
nimble ocean
they never released their games in early access either though
placid elk
OMG YES! I NEED IT! Hopes for Physical collector's edition...
light flint
the animation was soooo dope
bold cliff
I’m SO EXCITED
crude hazel
So if you want Hades DLC, just help make it super popular so they know people want it~
silk steeple
I want hades on switch but I already bought it on PC :(
noble jacinth
Buy it on both
brazen prairie
YOOO this trailer is so cool!!
bold cliff
FLAME I DID TOO
SOMETIMES WE MAKE SACRIFICES
silk steeple
No cash money:(((
nimble ocean
you can have several copies even on PC
noble jacinth
I already bought the game 5 times
crude hazel
Just get all your friends to buy it. As much as SGG do deserve the money for all their hard work.
bold cliff
The cross save was so amazing to hear
I have dead cells on switch and pc but pc is kinda just obsolete now’
smoky rain
CONGRATS SUPERGIANT FOR HADES ON SWITCH I'M SO HAPPY 💙💙💙so much love for you guys!!! I hope they open a studio here in Canada or that they open spots for 3d animators soon!!
bold cliff
Since i played so much on switch
silk steeple
I just love the game so much i wanna keep playing it even when in the washroom :(((
manic bobcat
Yeah I don't own a Switch but cross save is so nice
ancient flint
wait it's the 1.0 update out?
silk steeple
Not yet
manic bobcat
It says Fall 2020
feral fiber
Trailer is FIIIIRREEEE
ancient flint
breh I got so hyped
silk steeple
Screw it, ill buy it twice
nimble ocean
which means a month earlier than we expected
dry crystal
when exactly is fall in USA? assuming they follow americas time
bold cliff
YEAH
bold cliff
GREAT IDEA FLAME
manic bobcat
Yeab
silk steeple
Keep making amazing stuff supergian staff!!!
bold cliff
FLAME IS SPITTING RN
silk steeple
Damn right
crude hazel
It's a time frame.
bold cliff
IDK HOW BUT I GUESS I’m FLAMES HYPE BEAST NOW
crude hazel
Imagine how the Hollow Knight fans feel. We'll live 😄
fading gazelle
@winged bear Its done, Check in #fan-works
hollow drum
I'm so happy for you guys at Supergiant!
brisk trail
I just peed myself when I saw the trailer 🤣
cyan stratus
:D i have been waiting so long for silksongc
jolly island
So I have a question my guys, is the exiting of early access mean that the game is finished and complete or is it more of a move to a beta version with still major updates to come????
narrow hemlock
its 1.0, full release of the game
hollow drum
@cyan stratus Same here lmao
tidal hedge
If I bought Hades on steam, do I also have to buy it on the switch?
foggy compass
So sick it's coming to the Switch. Any info on target frame rate and resolution on the switch at this stage?
crude hazel
Probably no more major updates. At least for the time being.
tired mirage
when's the game coming out of early access?
spring galleon
I'm totally double dipping for the switch version
tired mirage
ah okay
manic bobcat
Watching the trailer, that full Zeus build on Zag Sword makes me lol
crude hazel
So between September and November, probably.
narrow hemlock
@tidal hedge yes, most likely. theyre completely separate platforms
tired mirage
I saw that it said fall but I wasn't sure if there was a more specific date
hollow drum
Cross save is huge
dry crystal
expansion: the gods betray you after you get to the surface 👀
tidal hedge
@narrow hemlock aw shucks. Thanks
cyan stratus
expansion: the gods betray you after you get to the surface 👀
@dry crystal Bruh
twilit sigil
portable hades guys
crude hazel
Full Zeus build is rarely a mistake. I mean, Zeus rewards you the most for devotion to Uncle Lightning Bolt.
brisk trail
Looks awesome, the animation! Ayyy.
twilit sigil
I CAN BRING HADES TO SCHOOL
manic bobcat
Imagine going to school in 2020
twilit sigil
(not that you should but still-!!!)
rapid saddle
can't wait for 1.0 when we find out zag has to assemble a triumvirate and take part in the rites to escape exile
twilit sigil
Oh true
brisk trail
By the way, what way do you guys find best to play Hades? Controller or K&M?
twilit sigil
Controller
manic bobcat
Both
dry crystal
both at the same time*
exotic path
Why no hades on PlayStation though
terse geyser
controller for cerberus
manic bobcat
WASD ABXY
terse geyser
kbm for everything else
manic bobcat
You guys don't do that?
livid cargo
@exotic path I've heard indies especially do not sell well enough
brisk trail
That would be grand
terse geyser
yes, it works
livid cargo
on playstation
brisk trail
Omg I need to try it
bold cliff
I tend to play controller for anything that’s not a shooter, or a game with an in game cursor like oxygen not included
manic bobcat
People should experience petting Cerberus with controller at least once
paper steppe
that animation was 
bold cliff
So i play controller on hades
brisk trail
Fox, what does that do? Do you feel him 'purr'?
manic bobcat
Yes
bold cliff
Indeed
narrow hemlock
oh btw to answer your question about who did the animation @fading gazelle https://twitter.com/SupergiantGames/status/1295756308071583745
ancient flint
controller goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
terse geyser
controller cerberus was very well done
tulip kernel
will 1.0 have a beta?
hollow drum
i've done both i like either one
manic bobcat
I mean you need a controller with vibration
ancient flint
woth
marsh dune
I prefer controller but I am way better with K&M for some reason
fading gazelle
@narrow hemlock I just found out seconds before you linked that to me but thanks!
terse geyser
1.0 probably won't have a public beta, there would be so many spoilers
brisk trail
Aw that's so cool. I need to try that, yeah.
ancient flint
btw, do we know anything about what 1.0 will include?
narrow hemlock
check the ingame roadmap
narrow hemlock
nope not particularly
worthy egret
animated zag is not something i knew i needed
nimble ocean
everything that the game has rn plus complete story
narrow hemlock
there are no more biomes
trail jasper
Looks like Imma gonna have to get Hades on the Switch now
worthy egret
ever so desperately
narrow hemlock
@ancient flint https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/0/2568689796938951223/#c2568689796939013056
brisk trail
I just need Zag in general
manic bobcat
I expect EM4 for 1.0, my body is ready.
ancient flint
ty for that
sharp fossil
controller goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
welp, you’ve convinced me
yeets keyboard out the window
brisk trail
^ same
crude hazel
Also, just putting this here as a guess.
nimble ocean
i knew that Zag is anime, i knew that all along
worthy egret
the cheeky grin on zag in that animation hhh my S O N
terse geyser
FISTS
who's ready
crude hazel
There is absolutely a surface biome. But not one with enemies.
Just a surface we'll get to walk around in a little bit.
lament hawk
looking forward to Hades trailers for Series X and PS5 events this year (they would immediately be the best launch games on these platforms if SG was able to get them out)
sharp fossil
FISTS
who's ready
@terse geyser YUS
nimble ocean
give me the opportunity to stand near ||the water and stare at the moon after redacted fight||, and i'll be happy
viral rover
So I notice seems to show a different functionality of one of the bow aspects
ancient flint
would be cool if u could go on olympus at some point
dry crystal
go to olympus and slay the gods ala god of war
nimble ocean
why?
manic bobcat
Honestly, Series X and PS5 launch would be a smart move.
sharp fossil
So I notice seems to show a different functionality of one of the bow aspects
yeah was that just a hammer i haven’t used or what?
ancient flint
inner kratos anger issues
nimble ocean
and then end up in the underworld with all the company?
dry crystal
because they're secretly scumbags who are just tricking zag 👀
ancient flint
sounds like a plan doesn't it @nimble ocean
tropic quiver
aspect of joestar on fists
viral rover
Hard to say, in the clip it's a special and there's +2 next to the boons for unshown boons so it could be a hammer, or it could be the aspect and dark thirst
atomic sorrel
Well, looks like I'll be rebuying Hades on my Switch
crude hazel
It looked like Rama bow?
atomic sorrel
Anyone else doing the same?
viral rover
So if I were a betting man, I'd put money on a change to the Rama bow's special to be more shotgun-y than the current
viral rover
Same, Raptie. Same
atomic sorrel
I freaking love my Switch for games like this
urban pasture
yoooooo how the hecc did y'all get hades runnin on the switch 😅
manic bobcat
Rebuy it if you want portable Hades
viral rover
And maybe a third time if there's a collector's edition down the line
manic bobcat
Which would be nice
sharp fossil
i’m kinda tempted and i don’t even own a switch lol
hidden kraken
tbh i bought hades on pc because it wasn't on switch yet and there was a good sale but switch was the platform i really wanted it on
so yes, definite double-dip
atomic sorrel
I got Hades the moment it was originally announced
So I don't mind buying it again
Even though I'll be starting from scratch
terse geyser
So I notice seems to show a different functionality of one of the bow aspects
@viral rover rama bow, twin shot, aphro attack
vale kite
did you notice that when fighting the hydra in that trailer zag has a full zeus build as a nod to the animated segment
narrow hemlock
just saying supergiant, if you wanna do a like 12 episode long series of 2-3 minute shorts depicting a run through the underworld, absolutely none of us is gonna stop you 
viral rover
Lysol, they have Aphro Special in the clip, though
manic bobcat
Buying it twice is $40 not on sale, still less than a AAA game. Good value. But still, just buy it because you want portable Hades.
viral rover
And it's not two projectiles, it's a spread
brisk trail
By the way, am I the only one that absolutely hates the shield guys who respawn? (forgot the name)
sharp fossil
the +4 shot special hammer maybe? can’t remember how that works on Rama
viral rover
Greatshields, Mr White? You ain't the only one
valid rune
I hope cross saves include from Epic and not just Steam. Very excited to play on switch!
viral rover
Ohokwy maybe but unlikely, the current Rama bow fires the special shots in a line, not a spread so I think it is a change to the functionality a little bit, to get the mark applied on more enemies maybe?
marsh rivet
That would make me immensely sad. Hopefully it was a change to the base bow special
sharp fossil
yeah you’re probably right
terse geyser
there is a little spread already
viral rover
Same, Jesse. Though I'll probably have a "from scratch" save on the Switch anyway, it would be nice to have the "all unlocked power run" available as well
marsh rivet
I'd much rather have 3 hit the main target then ricochet for Rama
sharp fossil
@marsh rivet me too, tbh
atomic sorrel
And for you returning players, our planned cross-save support means your Steam or Epic Games Store progress can transfer to the Switch!
Oh wow
brisk trail
Well, I'm glad I'm not alone in that hatred, then.
atomic sorrel
That's... That's amazing
marsh rivet
That's kind of awesome.
brisk trail
Damn, that's niiice
viral rover
Oh good! I've been so caught up in the moment I must have missed the specific mention of the EGS
calm hawk
damn
atomic sorrel
Supergiant remains one of my favorite devs ever
calm hawk
I was so excited to see a release date in the 1.0 trailer
viral rover
Same
calm hawk
no such luck
atomic sorrel
(They're tied with Larian Studios)
marsh rivet
(though honestly I wouldn't mind if they pushed the 1.0 release date if they deemed it necessary... it's not like we don't have a functional product now lol)
atomic sorrel
I love game devs that are transparent, passionate, and ethical, and that make incredible games without crunch time
sharp fossil
It could be tomorrow
man that would be hilarious
calm hawk
surprise drop xD
sharp fossil
i mean, i wouldn’t say no 😛
viral rover
I fully expect more warning than that.... But then again this news came out of the blue...
atomic sorrel
You know, every game from SG has been better than the last
marsh rivet
That's kind of a hot take
atomic sorrel
I can't even imagine what their next game will be like
winged bear
apparently fall is Tue, 22 Sep – Mon, 21 Dec, so that's a wide window
marsh rivet
I think Pyre was very different and a great game in its own right. I love that they experimented, but it didn't reach the emotional and gameplay technical highs of the previous two for me
atomic sorrel
By better, I mean in terms of what they implement and such
I love each game equally
nimble ocean
emotional? idk..
marsh rivet
You know what, nvm, I actually did like the story for Pyre the most
atomic sorrel
The way the ending ||customized your song|| blew my mind
crude hazel
Pyre was a beautiful game, story wise. I just couldn't get the gameplay to click for me. I know losing is -fine- in it, and that was lovely, but it wasn't as fun as playing the others.
For me.
atomic sorrel
Transistor probably has my favorite OST though
marsh rivet
Yeah Transistor OST top tier. Bastion's is pretty immediately recognizable for me too.
manic bobcat
Bastion - best narration
Transistor - best OST
Hades - best gameplay
Just my personal ranking
atomic sorrel
Pyre - Best story
sharp fossil
sometimes i accidentally just leave Paper Boats on repeat for like an hour
crude hazel
I love all their games in a way.
marsh rivet
Pyre - Best Basketball
hexed smelt
"accidentally"
atomic sorrel
But Hades is my favorite overall
I still can't believe the sheer amount of depth and dialogue and everything
marsh rivet
Easily in my top 10 favorite high fantasy narrative basketball games of all time
atomic sorrel
Haha
sharp fossil
"accidentally"
... maybe
twilit remnant
Pyre remains the most underrated games of SGG
manic bobcat
Easily in my top 10 favorite high fantasy narrative basketball games of all time
There are more than 1?
atomic sorrel
Going the Early Access route was deffo the right move
marsh rivet
Lol, doubt it
atomic sorrel
Like, Dead Cells and Slay the Spire did
atomic sorrel
Beacon is really awesome too
sharp fossil
I still can't believe the sheer amount of depth and dialogue and everything
This. Like, it messed me up when Hermes commented when I turned the speedrun timer on? Like, who thinks of that?
nimble ocean
one thing is certain: Hades has the most time played among their other games
marsh rivet
I really really loved Dead Cells, but its progression curve left something to be desired. Maybe the run length was a hair too long.
atomic sorrel
I'm a very, very small streamer and the Beacon devs came to my stream and hung out
clever solstice
roguelites fare very well in early access just cuz how they naturally are
coral thistle
I think pyre might still be my favorite with the story and progressive music
clever solstice
i havent played a bad ea rogue game yet
atomic sorrel
Yeah
coral thistle
but yeah roguelikes are one of the best genres for ea
nimble ocean
even its development process with us involved feels like a game mechanic already
clever solstice
if anybody is looking for a first person rogue, gunfire reborn is a good one that came into ea recently
interesting experience
coral thistle
mhm
marsh rivet
Slay the Spire does a great job of making you feel like a dummy (in the good way) when you watch a streamer who picked literally every card differently than you would have then breeze through A20
coral thistle
like StS change drastically in ea
tbf playing for high ascension is very different than playing for low
manic bobcat
StS is too big brained for me, can't get past Ascension 4
atomic sorrel
Oh man, Goose Game is getting a co-op
coral thistle
and then playing for heart obv changes your strat too
atomic sorrel
Eheh nope
coral thistle
ive gotten like 5 or 6 on ironclad iirc but I can't get a damn heart win on defect
void vigil
if you guys want to discuss games unrelated to hades, please move to #video-games!
coral thistle
oop yea
marsh rivet
Okay!
crude hazel
Cheese it, it's the fuzz.
atomic sorrel
I... So, for reasons, it's really hard for me to get immersed in games without female protagonists, but Hades has not had that problem for me
manic bobcat
I wonder what's next
marsh rivet
I have always wondered who the "Female Protagonist" steam tag was for lol
atomic sorrel
I think it's because Zagreus has such a personality
coral thistle
the tags are user defined, so maybe just some people memeing
crude hazel
I get you Raptile, but Zag feels like such a complete character rather than a bland faceless guy that it works well.
atomic sorrel
Yeah
hoary urchin
is version 1.0 out now?
marsh rivet
It's invariably the top tag for anything with gril
manic bobcat
I play as girl in Pokemon 
marsh rivet
I thought it was a neckbeard calling card shrug
atomic sorrel
(I have trouble because dysphoria stuff)
But yeah Pyre... I am invested in what happens with Zagreus
coral thistle
is version 1.0 out now?
@hoary urchin not yet
marsh rivet
That makes sense. I'm glad the tag is getting good usage 🙂
manic bobcat
I just want to know the ending
atomic sorrel
Also, he's not that hypermasculine kinda guy you see so much
coral thistle
yeah that makes sense raptie
hoary urchin
ah ok, cause i saw the launch trailer
manic bobcat
And how the gameplay loop is justified
atomic sorrel
He's legit like... A nice guy
I'm not even into dudes and I would totally date him
marsh rivet
Am I the only one who thinks his dad isn't such a bad guy? Like maybe he's in an amgury teen phase?
He's not... great
brisk trail
is anything know if there's going to be a beta phase for the 1.0?
solemn sorrel
Hades is very complicated.
hoary urchin
he's a pretty crappy dad, but i do think he genuinely loves his son deep down
quaint wind
he's pretty terrible to zag
crude hazel
I think he's an abusive father. No stop.
solemn sorrel
I mean, greek gods, right? They're pretty messed.
atomic sorrel
Oh, he definitely is abusive, but Tiernann is right
hoary urchin
the greek gods are all pretty cruel at times, but hades was actually one of the most reasonable
manic bobcat
Hades is abusive, good intentions don't justify the abuse.
marsh rivet
I mean, he's not figuratively Satan though (though he's pretty close to literally)
quaint wind
he's always belittling zag
crude hazel
Complicated? For sure. He's got a lot of stuff going on both on the surface and beneath it. But he's still an abusive father and to me that puts him firmly in the 'bad guy' category.
atomic sorrel
I love that this game is so respectful with the pantheon
crude hazel
Might be my bias speaking, but still.
atomic sorrel
SG clearly knows their stuff
nimble ocean
Hades actually is the one of the greek gods, who doesn't look/act like a god, he is very human
manic bobcat
Artemis beat girl
icy cradle
It’s not like Hades had a good father figure himself. Literally eaten alive by Chronos.
manic bobcat
She's nice, no drama
marsh rivet
That's understandable. I don't actually think he has malicious intentions though, which definitely counts for something
manic bobcat
Unlike most of the cast
coral thistle
oops
hoary urchin
he does occasionally compliment zag
coral thistle
his siblings were kind of awful to him
solemn sorrel
I'm not sure I could compare Hades (as we see in Supergiant's game) as similar to the Christian's Satan. The thing with Hades is that empathetically, you can see why he is the way he is. He's absolutely terrible, but you can see where it comes from. If there's an element of depravity (which the Christian's Lucifer represents), then I would argue Zeus is closer.
crude hazel
He seems very malicious whenever you're in an Erebus room especially.
coral thistle
he undoubtedly has issues and is probably a bad father
marsh rivet
I was being VERY facetious lol
coral thistle
but ending I suppose we'll see how good the rest of the pantheon is
manic bobcat
Underworld is very different from Hell
solemn sorrel
^
coral thistle
not entirely convinced they're not just helping zag to stick it to hades
instead of out of actual goodwill
crude hazel
It feels like they're pretty genuine to me.
atomic sorrel
(TBH though, my favorite pantheon are the Sumerian/Babylonian gods, which admittedly had a lot of influence on the Greek ones)
manic bobcat
Every mortal goes to the Underworld, "bad" people go to Hell
solemn sorrel
My theory is that Nyx is using them.
crude hazel
All about familial bonds.
coral thistle
but I don't have strong theories on 2hat the ending we'll be
marsh rivet
Oh for sure, the pantheon seem like a bunch of dbags. Artemis aside, girl just wanna hunt and chill with Callisto
coral thistle
can't wait to see hehe
hoary urchin
zag asks hades why he doesnt just chain him up and throw him into erebus or take his weapons away if he wants to prevent zag from escaping. hades says that would be barbaric and that he believes in rehabilitation over punishment
so he isnt all that bad
crude hazel
Artemis is my best gal pal and I won't believe anything bad about her.
atomic sorrel
Agreed eheh
coral thistle
inb4 persephone slays zag at the end and that's how we get yeeted back
manic bobcat
Artemis wants one thing and it's ... kinda cute.
solemn sorrel
Hades is in no way a "good guy," but the way the Pantheon (specifically Zeus) treated Hades is exactly why he is the way he is. That, plus. You know. Titans.
nimble ocean
but he also thinks that punishment is not meant to reeducate people
atomic sorrel
I hope they give us like, png files of the portraits
marsh rivet
(we're going to get mod wrist slapped again for not moving to #h1-story-discussion lol)
crude hazel
||A three way hunting party with her, Zag and Calypso. Wholesome fun times.||
coral thistle
shhh
manic bobcat
I hope they give us like, png files of the portraits
@atomic sorrel I think they have that in the wiki
coral thistle
the greek pantheon is messed up haha
atomic sorrel
Oh nice
crude hazel
Moving over to the story section.
winged bear
I'm actually impressed at how much they've avoiding going too deep into the messed up stuff
hoary urchin
most of the greek gods are messed up, hades is the most reasonable. he only really went after people when they cheated death or tricked him. like sisyphus
wise dune
I wander if hades will get a physical copy for the switch
hoary urchin
dude is just doing his job, people don't like it because death is scary and all.
atomic sorrel
It took me literally fifty attempts before I beat the final boss, but every attempt felt like I was making progress
raven wadi
Very quick question to anyone: How many voice lines does Hades have, in total? Roughly? I thought I saw a number somewhere but can't find it again
narrow hemlock
@raven wadi well over 15,000 at this point, im sure the team will update us with a more accurate number in the 1.0 update notes lol
crude hazel
Approximately a bunch.
raven wadi
At least 10
winged bear
has anyone reset their progress and felt like there's a lot of stuff you may miss by not doing so?
for someone who's been playing since day 1 of EA anyway
atomic sorrel
I haven't reset yet
narrow hemlock
i can tell you all the audio dialogue takes up about like 10-11gb so take that as you will
livid ivy
i'm gonna reset for 1.0
late flame
Should I reset for 1.0?
raven wadi
I'm torn between resetting for 1.0 or not. I've only beaten about 5 times
Thanks @narrow hemlock btw, just what I was after
winged bear
I kinda want to do it, but... I barely have half the stuff from the house contractor
I don't want to lose all those diamonds
late flame
same
serene hornet
just keep 2 saves, done, easy
remote moat
invested like 150 hours i dont wanna resett xD
late flame
I don't want to lose the disco ball : (
atomic sorrel
The good news is, even if you start a fresh game, you won't lose the old one
manic bobcat
Living up to the name godlike roguelike
raven wadi
If I started a new save, I would only use that save. Going back to the old one would be even more stinging
hoary urchin
so 1.0 will launch sometime in fall right?
crude hazel
Yup.
hoary urchin
why is the launch trailer out already, got so excited
alpine stratus
for hype!! isnt it great?
manic bobcat
Launch trailer means a trailer for when the game is launched.
alpine sparrow
Is there currently any plan to do a physical release for hades?
manic bobcat
Technically correct, the best kind of correct
narrow hemlock
https://gyazo.com/b8caceb09fd75c41fa3f6e14be581542 guess whos trending 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
raven wadi
I was pleasantly surprised about a switch release, I didn't know that was coming
terse geyser
isn't it already
hoary urchin
yeah i want supergiant to be successful
manic bobcat
Bigger
raven wadi
Poor old tiny supergiant, barely anyone knows about them 😆
alpine stratus
tinysmall games 😔
manic bobcat
Miniscule Dwarf Games
raven wadi
Normal Midget Games
unique igloo
Ah, I'm so happy hades is finally hitting patch 1.0, I still remember when the hydra was as far as the game went.
alpine stratus
RIGHT!!!
slender monolith
ITS SOOO GOOD
narrow hemlock
if i feel like a proud parent watching a child grow up, i can only imagine how the supergiant team feels 😭
lament hawk
Have they said anywhere if there will be a physical release for Hades on Switch?
alpine stratus
RIGHT..... i feel like hadesgame is my nephew or something
tepid holly
Is there any chance of Hades ever making it's way to the other two consoles?
manic bobcat
I would hope for Series X and PS5 release
alpine stratus
unsure at the moment but theyre considering it according to the FAQ!
manic bobcat
New somewhat established indie game on next gen console
I can see it happening. Fingers crossed
viral rover
Special Hades edition of next-gen consoles confirmed
tepid holly
I bought it for PC back when it first came out, but I just don't have a settup right now where I can play PC. But if it was on console? 😤 I'd be all in on it
bold slate
Hello guys
manic bobcat
Oi mate
raven wadi
It's been polished
raven wadi
This might be a simple question, but i haven't played in a while. I was checking out the wiki, and for the gods it mentions their 'favor'. What is that? It's not the item given for the first nectar
fading gazelle
Most gods and characters have literal favors that you could help them with. Most of them are there for pure story reasons and don't actually hinder your progress in the game.
Think of them as side missions
bold slate
I hope one day zag could explore upper world and fight the greek gods
raven wadi
Ah ok. I thought it might have been something mechanical, like complete the favor and get a boost to rarity with that god or something
fading gazelle
I hope one day zag could explore upper world and fight the greek gods
I highly doubt that would happen
narrow hemlock
zag's goal isnt to fight his family
bold slate
So the name wont be hades anymore?
raven wadi
Hades 2: This Time It's Biblical, in which you fight Jesus
narrow hemlock
hades also refers to the underworld
bold slate
Ah yea just realize that
unique igloo
Zeus: "So nephew, now that you've escaped the dreaded Hades, what do you plan on doing?"
Zagreus: "I guess I'll conquer Olympus and fight all of you."
Gods: :O
Ares: :D
fading gazelle
Not only does it not fit story-wise, but it'd put the boon system in a weird spot as well
teal patrol
when does 1.0 launch?
raven wadi
Fall
teal patrol
kk
fading gazelle
Sometime this september
drowsy fable
there are already pretty good voicelines for using a god's call right after you make them mad
raven wadi
Ooh i've never tried that
patent topaz
HADES ANIME HADES ANIME HADES ANIME HADES ANIME HADES ANIME HAD-
Also hi long time i wrote something
fading gazelle
Hi Symbo! Long time
It'd feel like a certain final boss in another rougelike game that didn't feel right to me
(To those curious its Risk of Rain 2)
raven wadi
Go the Isaac route, Zagreus has to fight himself
patent topaz
Was having a nap and then
"Hades is coming for Nintendo Switch this fall!"
"Uh cool already have it on pc but congrats it's big i mean Ninten-"
"When the game goes v.01!"
"W H A T A L R E A D Y ? !"
bold slate
Another daydream
fading gazelle
I mean the 4th aspects imo do exist, but not yet probably
Or they probably did
That's how I feel they dealt with it
drowsy fable
holy mother of spoilers
patent topaz
I think this is like a pjo type of world where everyone exists
raven wadi
Who's to say it's an alternate timeline or multiverse?
patent topaz
Oh right spoiler tag the names they're spoilers 0-0
fading gazelle
Also yeah @bold slate, might want to spoiler those names. They aren't exactly common knowledge
fading gazelle
No problem dude
patent topaz
You can also spoiler tag something by putting || on both sides
shy relic
does anyone know if the switch and pc versions will be able to use the same save games?
terse geyser
||
bold slate
|i see |
narrow hemlock
didnt they confirm you can use your saves
bold slate
||i see||
fading gazelle
does anyone know if the switch and pc versions will be able to use the same save games?
@shy relic They probably will have cross save
raven wadi
I like how trying to explain how to spoiler messes it up
bold slate
Oh isee.. thanks bro @patent topaz @terse geyser
patent topaz
:3 👍
smoky rune
Can't wait for this game on the Switch! That's amazing
nimble ocean
Switch is the most desired platform, afaik
patent topaz
I'm just... so proud
It's not the first time they release something on switch but--
I mean THE NINTENDO? They always welcome indie titles but still, big achievement!
drowsy fable
hades on switch was literally the only complaint that PA had about it
so now it's the perfect game obviously
patent topaz
I still need to || get companions and reunite both the lovers and parent-daughter || so that's on me being slow
drowsy fable
||nyx won't tell me where the files are for sisyphus or achilles/patroclus so I can't get the last two companions||
smoky rune
Is it getting a physical release for Switch?
ashen sphinx
If it does, I'm getting a Swtich
narrow hemlock
https://twitter.com/SupergiantGames/status/1295771760692883461 i was just about to ask who inquired about that
ashen sphinx
AND I DEMAND ANIME!
patent topaz
C'MON IT'S PERFECT FOR AN ANIME
or a cartoon since it's american, the ol' atla paradox
void vigil
please dont evade the swear filter @ashen sphinx
narrow hemlock
just saying supergiant, if you wanna do a like 12 episode long series of 2-3 minute shorts depicting a run through the underworld, absolutely none of us is gonna stop you
as i said earlier
eternal hill
So does cross-save with Switch mean that saves only go one way? Or can you jump back and forth between PC and Switch on one save file you think?
fading gazelle
||nyx won't tell me where the files are for sisyphus or achilles/patroclus so I can't get the last two companions||
@drowsy fable Give it a few more runs, its mostly rng
smoky rune
@eternal hill so excited for cross save
narrow hemlock
animated arena fight............ that would be so good......................................
tepid plover
Ok that trailer was epic
drowsy fable
I maxed ||nyx and chaos affinity|| like 30 runs ago
past mirage
Zagreus gets shot in the back like a moron, but emerges from the pool like it's a shampoo commercial. That cracked me up.
terse geyser
it is a shampoo commercial
worn glade
duuuuude, that new keyart in the trailer, i need it in a huge size immediately so i can put in my desktop 😳😳😳
patent topaz
You got the:
- cute mascot (Dusa)
- the tsundere that whacks the mc (Meg)
- the broody rival with trunks' hair that everyone loves (Than)
- baby (Hypnos)
- that character that is just... what is this (chaos)
- the other douchey rival with the done best friend (Thes and As)
- fanservice (Aphro)
- the absolute waifu (Arti)
- || at least one parent is missing ||
I need to think about it
JEN C'MON YOU LOVE ANIME PLEASE
- the old (well alright not that much) badass mentor (Achilles)
Oof-
drowsy fable
holy mother of character spolers
nimble ocean
protagonist with spiked haircut and huge sword
past mirage
That definitely sounds familiar
patent topaz
Ah jeez
fading gazelle
I maxed ||nyx and chaos affinity|| like 30 runs ago
Like I said, it'll take time. It took me a long time to get certain affinities working and I thought it was bugged.
drowsy fable
actually, the sword is pretty reasonablly sized for a zweihander
patent topaz
The soundtrack
past mirage
And then it turns out the iconic weapon is also the worst one.
drowsy fable
idk about that
fading gazelle
Stygius is way to thicc to be a zweihander
terse geyser
heretic @past mirage
past mirage
I knew you would take issue with that.
drowsy fable
||4th aspect|| sword is super good
fading gazelle
Do not disrespect the zoom
drowsy fable
I do love me the zoom tho
nimble ocean
also, he resembles another half-naked optimistic guy with looong sword, born underground, who desired to get on the surface no matter what to ||find his parent||
narrow hemlock
where is my ares mention symbo
terse geyser
Imagine calling the only weapon that can allow you to clear on the first run "the worst one"
patent topaz
It depends, i don't like the sword special but it's still nice
(With hunter's dash 
)
Hmm Ares...
drowsy fable
aoe debuffs are niiice
fading gazelle
It depends, i don't like the sword special but it's still nice
(With hunter's dash
laughs in Poseidon
patent topaz
The thing is, it's too much like an anime you sometimes can't find the stereotypes because it-- just is
cosmic heart
YOOOOOOO THE NEW TRAILER IS LIT!!!
patent topaz
laughs in Poseidon
@fading gazelle Talos special with Poseidon special is perfect for the exalted
nimble ocean
i can already imagine cartoonish behaviour of Hypnos, doing his best to comic relief the story
cosmic heart
Do we need a series of Hades>)
patent topaz
Dusa is the cash cow that sells plushies
I mean, more Hades ; )
I want to see that interaction with Hades
"So. The record. Where is it?"
"Oh yeah the record basically um i was looking at the shades then i put it on the table and then i slept and then i remember i put it there so i woke up but i didn't find it so i said oh well i continued but then i heard someone and..."
"OH JESUS LORD JUST NEVERMIND GET LOST"
native coral
Hey guys totally random question, when is fall 2020
drowsy fable
he'd probably say "blood and darkness" ||but also that interaction is already in the base game||
patent topaz
they even have the emoticons like the embarassed tears, the angry nerve on the forhead and the upset purple lines
LIKE THAT WAS STARTED BY ANIMES
drowsy fable
mmmmno
drowsy fable
that's old western animation
past mirage
patent topaz
Guys hades comes out fall right? Maybe end fall? They always troll us so fall is end fall
crude hazel
Anime is based on old western animation to begin with.
It did develop a lot since the astro boy days I suppose.
patent topaz
Oh right but usually it's in animes except the angry nerves usually
nimble ocean
||~~"Fall, i said!" (c)||
drowsy fable
only one that I haven't seen a modern western example of is wavy lines
nimble ocean
tbh, modern western animation lacks such features
patent topaz
Are you telling me they're going to release it near winter
nimble ocean
except for some examples
drowsy fable
hell, anime isn't even innovative
native coral
did anyone notice this https://i.imgur.com/1Xit95W.png
fading gazelle
Guys if the conversation is to continue about anime and cartoons as such, it'd be a good idea to move to #off-topic-discussion
nimble ocean
all the animation schools have same origin