h1-discussion

[unkempt plank]

ap2??? Ri4????

[fossil furnace]

Do you not know what those abbreviations mean?

[rustic vale]

Approval Process 2 (takes away 2 of your options when you take things that give you options) and Routine Inspection 4 (removes your entire mirror)

[unkempt plank]

i barely remember the names of the pacts of punishment😭

[harsh scroll]

You can at best force a god. But you still need to hope AP2 doesn't repeatedly block the boons you need most. And the lack of Foresight is just Achilles perma walking on high heels

[fervent radish]

Kinda just that the builds that are viable are pretty few in number so the runs end up looking pretty similar

[fervent radish]

It just is what it is tbh

The aspects viable at 64 only need 1-2 boons

[harsh scroll]

Always wanted to see all the close calls 64H has had tbh

Imagine how many times dad's third boosted HP phase has ran over TD3

[fervent radish]

Many times

The other failures are to BP2 bs in ely for the most part

[harsh scroll]

Tbh BP2 can ruin any run with a bad enough combination of traits

No matter where

Though yeah I'm pretty fearful of the speeder FO2 shields

[fossil furnace]

What even is the worst BP perk

[fervent radish]

Speeder, seeker on witches

Speeder just tends to make everything worse, seeker makes witches in all biomes really bad

[fossil furnace]

Not gonna lie, Popper caught me off guard when I first started using BP

[latent moon]

A lot of failures in Ely from endless blue men as well

Good builds still die to timer bc of wave/trickle spawns

[fossil furnace]

I have a question

What keepsake is better for Hades? Acorn, or Skelly's tooth?

[tepid plover]

Realistically acorn blocks more dmg than tooth would've given

Assuming you're getting hit by the big slaps

[rustic vale]

the lowest damage hades does is 40

5 hits x 40 damage = 200 damage blocked

Compared to tooth 100

[tepid plover]

If your accorn gets eaten by one of the mobs, now that's on you

[latent moon]

20 from skulls

At minimum, it matches

[tepid plover]

That's why I said this

[fossil furnace]

Them why does this person switch OFF of Acorn, ONTO the tooth in this video

[tepid plover]

Because they can

[latent moon]

My guess is bc guan Yu healing

[rustic vale]

Em4 is different

[latent moon]

Another HP bar let's you have more chances to heal instead of negating damage I guess

[tepid plover]

If you can heal, then yeah tooth is better, because you get the 100 hp, plus whatever else you're healing

[rustic vale]

Hades can summon minibosses that can shred your 5 acorn uses in a second

[tepid plover]

That too

[rustic vale]

doomstone

[tepid plover]

Its why I use spearpoint

Instead of acorn

Literally because of doomstone

also poison

I had a doomstone eat my acorn once in less than a second and I was sad

Never again

But yeah outside of em4, acorn is giving you most value

[fossil furnace]

So EM4 giving Hades access to chip damage is the reason people might prefer tooth instead?

[latent moon]

Many high heaters still take acorn into em4 tho lol

It's mostly personal preference

[tepid plover]

It could be

[latent moon]

But most use acorn regardless

[latent moon]

That's the main reason yeah

[tepid plover]

Would have to ask the person specifically

That is why I don't use acorn

[fossil furnace]

Just finished watching that run

Found it funny that the guy was using the spin to OUTHEAL the expired timer DoT, spent almost a good half-minute with it ticking away at them and didn't even proc skelly's tooth

[tepid plover]

But see, when you're healing the 100 hp from skelly can turn into a lot more

[placid coral]

wait the timer just does damage or does it instakill

[fossil furnace]

It doesn't instakill, it hits you with 5 damage every second after it expires

Apparently Guan Yu can outheal it if you have a build to spam it fast enough

[latent moon]

it's quick spin and animation cancel

athena attack deflects for safety, massive spin for more damage

[placid coral]

who's dash boon is the best

[rustic vale]

Depends on what you want

For pure damage output with no regards to the rest of your build, tidal dash deals the most damage with really good aoe and speed

Divine dash is always a good defensive buff and is crucial on Merciful End

[placid coral]

Athena and ares right?

[stiff obsidian]

Athena

[placid coral]

I feel like it'd be Athena for consistency

what is yalls favorite misc. boon?

[rustic vale]

Yeah

[rustic vale]

On paper it’s killing freeze

[placid coral]

I like nectar (I treat hades like a friendship simulator)

I wish there was a platonic path in hades

cause like

I wanna 100%

but it feels odd

[rustic vale]

There is though?

Just say no

you can decline the romances

[tepid plover]

By popularity, athena. However this is build dependant

[placid coral]

o h

shoot

thought there wasn't considering how much everyone talks about their feelings lol

[rustic vale]

you don’t need to say yes to the romances to 100% the game

[placid coral]

cool

:D

[tepid plover]

The option is there for a reason

[placid coral]

imo

I think it only makes sense for zag to get with someone

but between the options

I'd pick than

(saying that knowing you can just pick both)

[rustic vale]

Me when I’m picking the person my character has canonically grown up with as a brother

over

the person who hasn’t

[placid coral]

[ok is it bad I just don't like meg that much]

lol

[stiff obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/megaera-hades-game-meg-hades-fury-gif-19153429

[rustic vale]

yuh

You could’ve at least picked bouldy like

Smh

[placid coral]

bouldy is zag's therapist

[gilded quest]

How much runs take to the party with the other gods?

[placid coral]

a lot

[gilded quest]

I have like 30 runs or something like that

[fossil furnace]

Why would you date Meg or Thanatos when Dusa is a character that exists

[gilded quest]

Wait you can choose?

I think u can only do with meg

Dang

[fossil furnace]

I think you need to max out all 3 to get Aphrodite bond anyways

[placid coral]

I would if I could

but it makes sense why you cant

[latent moon]

if you only have 30 runs done total and you're asking about the party with the other gods, you're probably gonna need like another hundred or so

[placid coral]

(And I don't mean the lack of a body)

[gilded quest]

Holy

I think im gonna need other month of Netflix then

[rustic vale]

It’s not a set number

The epilogue requirements are seperate from your runs

The credits are depending on you escaping 10 times and then you can start on the epilogue but that will likely take you a lot longer

[fossil furnace]

Oh

I was just saying I was stunned at just how much dialogue there is in this game

Feels like there's a line for almost any scenario you could come up with

[tepid plover]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-freaky-cat-cat-meme-tongue-out-gif-1492882876567450372

[stiff obsidian]

Real...

[rustic vale]

21020 voiced dialogue lines do that to a mf

[fossil furnace]

There's more effort put into this game than most AAA titles nowadays, if feels like

[rustic vale]

AAA titles have too much redtape and too little soul in them

[fossil furnace]

I just hope the VAs have actually been paid for their work

[rustic vale]

given that a number are returning for the sequel

I think it’s fair to assume they were adequately compensated, but I know nothing of the actual details

[fossil furnace]

fair

[latent moon]

some of the actual game devs are the VAs lmao

[fossil furnace]

I think I heard that before

Imagine someone trying to make a mod for the game that dubs it in another language

That sounds like a daunting thing to do

[gilded quest]

Lernie have more dialogue than most games

[fossil furnace]

Wait, Lernie's hisses count as dialogue?

[gilded quest]

I think so

Nah idk what im talkin tbh

[copper sedge]

Hey chat, what’s the 64th heat from?

Maxing everything out only gives 63

[latent moon]

hell mode

it gives personal liability, so you lose the bubble whenever you take a lot of damage/hits at once

[copper sedge]

Ah, so 64 isn’t possible in a normal file?

[rustic vale]

Yep

[indigo badge]

if you're considering pushing heat, the speedrun modpack lets you toggle hellmode. it's very convenient

[untold onyx]

got two 5 path satyr sacks in a row

[dusk willow]

Is there a best aspect for each weapoon or is this personal preference?

[autumn jewel]

different aspects are better suited for different goals, e.g. speedrunning, high heat, playing pool

just kidding, aspect of hera is the best

[north sandal]

i think i fell back to being a new player for hades 1 lmaoo i tried going back to play it after sinking like 50 hours into hades 2 and i died on bone hydra, something i havent done in ages 💀

[copper sedge]

Mobile :)

[dusk willow]

I finished my 9th Run, one more time 👀

[indigo badge]

💀

[indigo badge]

h1 is generally more spammy and very dash fueled so yes that's not unexpected

[indigo badge]

do 32 heat for an epic send off 💯

[copper sedge]

Well last run Athena and Artemis were competing for my special slot
Athena gave me a rare flourish, Artemis replaced it with an epic, and Athena replaced that with a heroic

[harsh scroll]

Some girls have that level of rivalry

[autumn creek]

GRRRRRR I made it to Hades phase 2 and immediately died to lasers

[tepid plover]

Nah bro you're cooked

[copper sedge]

I manage

[grand forge]

Mobile players are a different breed entirely and I have a tremendous level of respect for them

[dusk willow]

I have reached the credits for the first time, what an awesome game

[unkempt plank]

yall i just lost a run for the dumbest reason

my controller died during a Guan Yu run

[indigo badge]

common kbm W

[lavish sorrel]

if a set of keys dies on you while playing kbm, you can just pause and shift all of your buttons over to the side a few times

it's so comfy

[unkempt plank]

kbm?

[lavish sorrel]

keyboard + mouse

[unkempt plank]

ohhhh

[snow hemlock]

Doesnt your game immediately pause if your controller dies? 😭

[warm plank]

kind of a weird random question but i was wondering if anyone knew where i would be able to find images of the icons for the mirror of night talents? the ones that show on the victory screen, but without the text?

i'd also love to know the exact colors used for the text lines for each character

[stiff obsidian]

Can use a color picker for that right

[mint coral]

Prob ask in the modding discord (pinned in #self-promotion )

[winter scarab]

Play high heat cause you get a hades skip

[warm plank]

there are so many icons that have image files on the Hades wiki but the icons for the Mirror of Night are nowhere to be found anywhere. i'm surprised!

i just want them for an infographic for myself

[unkempt plank]

it didnt for me😭😭😭😭

lernie used all my death defies up as i was looking for the cord

[rustic vale]

Can confirm it doesn’t

This happened to me a month or so ago to the same results

[snow hemlock]

Maybe xbox? 😭

Idk ps4 controller on laptop pauses my game every time

[summer hazel]

My Xbox controller (on Linux) pauses on disconnect

[fossil furnace]

What's a better Rail Aspect, Eris or Hestia?

[sharp jasper]

If I trade my ambrosia for Titan blood, is it possible to have more Titan blood than I can use? Is that something I should pay attention to?

[rustic vale]

Depends on what you want do

[rustic vale]

You can have as many as you need of all the resources as they’re all infinitely renewable

You actually do need to make at least a few trades because you won’t get enough titan blood naturally without fishing or trading or buying blood from the styx shop

[fervent radish]

eris

both are very good though

eris is better if you get everything, but hestia is more consistent

[rustic vale]

Eris is definitely the better option for speed but Hestia is really solid for heat climbing because it’s really safe

[fossil furnace]

I see

[rustic vale]

Eris is also good for heat climbing because damage is damage but Hestia just performs well

[cinder tartan]

i prefer eris

having 75%+ bonus damage from everything for a few seconds seems more useful than one single powered shot, in my opinion

eh idk actually

theyre both good but i use eris

[fervent radish]

this is the correct attitude yeah

basically neck and neck imo

[cinder tartan]

yeah LOL

[echo scaffold]

Eris is cool and all, but here me out on big lazer

[autumn jewel]

hestia is shotgun gaming

[snow hemlock]

Wwooww first 16 heat clear

That was not that difficult 😭

[cinder fractal]

Congrats @snow hemlock !

Here's a scenario: You're in Tartarus with a cast build (bowulf, hera, etc). You see Chaos. First screen has something good - say affluence - but nothing to boost casts. Do you spend a reroll hoping for a cast booster or take the generic-ok option?

[mint coral]

That's a roll

Worst case scenario is just tartarus and I can reset

[cinder fractal]

yeah

lol burned all my rolls there, kept getting worse options, ah well RNG

[placid coral]

using hera+aph and I have 2 chaos options

slippery grasp or halting shot

[fervent radish]

Yeah I would not spend more than 1 roll there lmao

[fervent radish]

Depends on how much the shot is

[placid coral]

39%

[fervent radish]

Probably grasp if you’re ok playing with slippery

Otherwise shot is the safe option

[placid coral]

I'm in tartarus so I think I'm good

I'm honestly just desperately trying to get Zeus so I can get the aspect of lucifer

[placid coral]

and I can't use the keepsake because I use zeus so little that he just

talks about his keepsake instead :|

I swear

he didn't even mention the keepsake this time

I gotta wait longer aaa

[indigo badge]

if you're that desperate for it you can just keep resetting

[placid coral]

but doesn't resetting just reset the run?

like it gives the same rng stuff

[indigo badge]

as in die in the first room

[placid coral]

oh

[indigo badge]

equip zeus keepsake, then use hard labor 5, forced overtime 2 and routine inspection 4

[placid coral]

is it bad that that feels cheap

especially considering how far I make it in most of my runs

[indigo badge]

if you have other stuff to do, then do those and look for zeus boons on the side

[placid coral]

uhh

I have 40 health

do I take the chaos gate lol

I got crush shot to level 10

wow

wham

[fossil furnace]

Got every achievement in the game earlier today

[indigo badge]

the addiction consumes

[glacial bolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/717696369351065620/1375230609382834216/image.png?ex=6830eecf&is=682f9d4f&hm=270352f7af40d8e41b5d417a7c03deb639f8ec35be4d227604e9a0eadd911147&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=286&height=221

Rare dad spear fotagee

[main merlin]

Compensating for something with that long spear, are we?

[rustic vale]

Mfw when spears are supposed to be longer than you are tall and Hades is massive

[snow hemlock]

Is there a certain way to learn to play rhe harp

Cause lowkey ive just been pressing r1 on it 3 times between runs

[rustic vale]

It just takes you doing it 210 times total and talking to Orpheus a few times

[snow hemlock]

I should probably press it more than 3 times then 😀

[brisk trail]

I've been playing since yesterday....have to catch a break?

[indigo badge]

uhhh maybe

also fyi spoilers are allowed in this channel

[harsh scroll]

New Aspect of Hades just dropped

[torn sinew]

how do i unlocked more hidden aspects again?

i did it on another save but forgor

i have guan yu and rama already

who gives me the next one

[mint coral]

#h1-story-discussion pins

[torn sinew]

thanks

[north sonnet]

Non pommable boon list?

[north sandal]

is there a reason hades 1 doesnt have an icon on my taskbar

[rustic vale]

Athena: Deathless Stand, Last Stand
Aphrodite: Broken Resolve, Blown Kiss
Demeter: Nourished Soul, Arctic Blast, Rare Crop
Dionysus: Premium Vintage, After Party, Strong Drink
Poseidon: Sunken Treasure, Oceans Bounty

And I’m pretty sure that’s all of them

[rustic vale]

^

See above message

wait Blown Kiss is also non-pommable

[mint coral]

You are missing a lot lol

[rustic vale]

Yeah I realised

I have added them all atp afaik

[mint coral]

For reference purposes:
It was brought up during VOD review there isn't a reference list of unpommable non legendary non duo boons available from each god/goddess. Here it is:

Aphrodite
Life Affirmation
Broken Resolve
Blown Kiss (requires Crush Shot)

Ares
Blood Frenzy
Engulfing Vortex (requires Slicing Shot, Blade Dash, or Ares' Aid)
Dire Misfortune (requires Curse of Agony or Curse of Pain)

Artemis
none 😦

Athena
Sure Footing
Deathless Stand
Last Stand

Demeter
Rare Crop
Nourished Soul
Ravenous Will
Arctic Blast (requires Frost Strike, Frost Flourish, Mistral Dash, Demeter's Aid or Snow Burst)
Killing Freeze (requires Frost Strike, Frost Flourish, Mistral Dash, Demeter's Aid or Snow Burst)

Dionysus
Premium Vintage
Strong Drink
After Party

Poseidon
Ocean's Bounty
Sunken Treasure

Zeus
none 😦

Had to delete the bond emotes

[rustic vale]

Oh I am missing more than I thought

Dang

[mint coral]

Washed

[rustic vale]

True

[sharp jasper]

Thanks Styx for the timer stalling me. Finally remember why I stopped playing Hades smh

[mint coral]

Hop on the modpack

[sharp jasper]

The mod pack?

[mint coral]

Speedrun modpack

Guarantees 2 sack and a bunch of other things

[sharp jasper]

Ah got. But doesn't kind of feel like cheating then?

[mint coral]

If you mean like, regarding leaderboards it has its own category

Otherwise single player game idc

You can also adjust those settings

There was someone that made it 3 sack always instead iirc

[sharp jasper]

Ok fair point

[latent moon]

The speedrun modpack just removed the rng from things that aren't in your control apart from enemy and room rng basically

[sharp jasper]

I love using the Arthur sword, but I always run timer, and just got real tilted after having under a minute to beat Hades, and then got hit with those invincibility crystals in the fight

[latent moon]

First boon, hammer, certain minibosses, and Styx basically

[latent moon]

Arthur is famously not fast tbf

And neither is em4

[sharp jasper]

Oh, I only went to EM 3, was only at 14 heat iirc

Never got to high fear in Hades 1, decided to start working on that while we're waiting for the H2 update

[latent moon]

Oh wait you're right I forgot base fight has invincibility crystals

[latent moon]

Heat btw

But fair

[sharp jasper]

Ah yes, been playing too much H2

[rustic vale]

It’s used for speedrunning to reduce rng

It’s not about cheating, it’s about lowering the amount of runs that lose to simple rng

Starting with your choice of god core rather than just 3/4 means you reset less often

only ever getting two-sacks means you aren’t getting screwed out of a victory by a 5sack

[placid coral]

ok

got aspect of Rama and doing a run

any tips before I go in?

[fervent radish]

twin/triple and then perfect/point blank are the best hammers

aphro/arty on attack and arty>>> everything else on dash but divine dash can be good for safety if you have good chaos additive or jerkies

flat damage on the special is good but not the focus of the aspect

mark as many enemies as you can and then charge up a dash strike to hit as many enemies as possible. every enemy you mark should die.

[placid coral]

so

I uhh

made it through tartarus

with one defience left

this is..

not an easy aspect

[fervent radish]

yeah its easy to get hit

focus on using empty dashes to get away from enemies and only start a dash strike when safe

[placid coral]

also I have dio zeus and poseidon

do I just reset lol

[mint coral]

just force arty/aphro for aspho

if you wanna play it safe force athena for her attack and defiance refills

[placid coral]

I uhh

I'm already in aspho

:|

I tend to rush a bit

[mint coral]

lol

what keepsake did you take then

[placid coral]

acorn

as usual

[mint coral]

for aspho?

[placid coral]

yea

[mint coral]

why

[fervent radish]

tooth is better

[placid coral]

don't like playing risky for bosses

[placid coral]

not

really?

[fervent radish]

yeah

[mint coral]

this is not high heat right

[fervent radish]

for lernie atleast

[placid coral]

skelly is the last defience to be used

if you lose all three

[fervent radish]

i'm assuming not high heat yeah

[placid coral]

that's a shock

[fervent radish]

oh wait not high heat huh

[placid coral]

yeah

[fervent radish]

good catch

[mint coral]

yeah that's why I asked about the acorn lol

[placid coral]

I would not use high heat for my first time with an aspect

[mint coral]

generally a 2nd god or a support keepsake is more useful

[fervent radish]

i have brainrot it seems

[mint coral]

(tooth aspho is real tho, lernie is a pain at high heat)

[placid coral]

explosive shot seems good here

also relentless volley and perfect shot

[mint coral]

explosive rama is kinda a meme

[placid coral]

bomb

everyone

[mint coral]

if you take it be prepared to never see another powershot in your life

[placid coral]

lol

can't do the powershots on Rama anyhow

[mint coral]

(aka just use the min charge shots, the dmg is basically the same)

[fervent radish]

explosive sucks

[mint coral]

yeah that's the thing

if you know what you are doing is not the worst to find power shot windows normally

[fervent radish]

you can, and it's pretty easy if you dash strike

[placid coral]

it's funny tho

[mint coral]

also I can't diss explosive rama too much

it was my first 50 heat with it

[placid coral]

would perfect shot or volley be better then

[mint coral]

perfect is def better

but tbh if you wanna meme it just go for it I'd say

[placid coral]

ok after one room

Def more effective than without lol

[fervent radish]

it killed the furthest i had gotten at rama 50 lol

[placid coral]

still lost my last defience cause I insist on middle management lol

what's the max level for rama?

[mint coral]

shares 60% of dmg dealt

[placid coral]

WOW

I just died to flying thing

forgot it's name

zag laughed at me :c

[zinc trellis]

powershotting is easier on Rama

[dull gate]

I did all weps on 20 fear in H2.
I returned to H1.
Got beaten by [redacted] at heat 16.

[stiff obsidian]

i did all aspects 50 in h1 and die at 0 fear in h2

[indigo badge]

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

[stiff obsidian]

no

[snow hemlock]

Do you need to talk to chaos with the shield equipped to get the secret aspect

Its the only thing im missing and i hate all shield aspects

[harsh scroll]

You need Chaos to notice you own the shield

After that you can get the dialogue with any weapon so long as you've revealed (not acquired) Guan Yu and spent 5 titan blood on shield aspects

[placid coral]

I love Arthur

Just like

bonk

It has an incredible range too

like I've hit so many enemies just

behind me

[placid coral]

hang on

actually when did they remove the bot

Haven't even noticed it's absence

oh dear

tough choice

Super Nova
Double Nova
Breaching Slash

altho

I do have athena on special

so the drawback isn't nearly as bad

I think imma go double nova

[indigo badge]

it just broke

[placid coral]

it feels so good to kill the butterfly ball without any guys spawning

[placid coral]

ah, fun

[stiff obsidian]

Not tough choice

Breaching

[placid coral]

in hindsight

probably was

but I still got a new best time and heat in a single run

(19:14.47 and 6)

[hoary elk]

Bruh

okay so

I haven't played hades in a while

and decided to do so this evening

and somehow all my savefiles got deleted???

[umbral roost]

is there a bug report channel?

[hoary elk]

There probably is, sorry for typing it here

I'm just so unbelievebly mad

especially since I already had a very specific run in mind and now I just can't do it

[mint coral]

Have you checked #h1-tech-fixes and/or #h1-tech-support

[hoary elk]

I did read tech fixes and nothing seems to work

[sharp jasper]

Is Beowulf using any cast other than Dio always just pain and suffering?

[mint coral]

Pos/aphro are better

And arty/athena are like, ok

Thunder/slicing/icy are the weird ones

[zinc trellis]

Beowulf with Curse of Drowning is fun

or witih Poseidon cast in general

[torn sinew]

how do i mod hades?

is there a modloader?

[torn sinew]

nvm i got it

bro why is every single mod just cheats 😭

like 99% of mods either just make everything cost less or nothing or make fishing impossible to lose 😭

[mint coral]

Use sbeve

[torn sinew]

bruh

how do i know if my mods are working?

i installed climbofsisyphus and olympus extra

is there no way to know other than just playing the game?

[rustic vale]

The Hades modding server if probably better equipped for your various questions

A link to it is pinned in #self-promotion

[torn sinew]

thank youuu

[harsh scroll]

The only situation where Curse of Drowning doesn't kill the cast entirely

[snow hemlock]

Im 3 achievements away from 100%ing, i need achilles and chaos to lock in

That prophecy is NOT triggering

[fierce junco]

keep gambling

🎰

[hardy halo]

I started a new file , hooly I forgot how slow it is in the start (hell mode)

Anybody else started a new run for fun?

[north sandal]

Going back to hades 1 is rough for me lol I think I got too used to hades 2

The readjustment isn’t going very smoothly but I’ve beat it before so it’s just a matter of time

[hardy halo]

Yeah I thought the same

I just realized how faster and easier Hades 2 start is compared to this

Or maybe it’s the hell mode idk

Those guys told me “nope you’re not him dude”

[indigo badge]

fresh file is about as hard as 50 heat

[stiff obsidian]

That's hard ashell

40 heat is awesome tho

[hardy halo]

Yeah I realized that after I went back to the house and checked powers/aspects/keepsakes I’m missing

[north sandal]

I’m just like I used to be able to clear hades nine times out of ten and now I can’t even make it past the most basic of enemies in elysium lol

[indigo badge]

the hardest part of starting anew is having only 1 dash

though if you've cleared 40 heat you can definitely get your first win quite fast

[hardy halo]

Oh yeah you’re right I forgot about that

what’s my best bet build this early?

[indigo badge]

depends on the weapon, you can get all the decent builds pretty early

[granite steppe]

Bro, getting the last missing hammer on all these weapons is the worst

This RNG is awful

5 straight runs with the shield and still didn't get it

And I still need the fists and spear too

Awful

[indigo badge]

keep in mind some hammers are incompatible with certain aspects and each other

[granite steppe]

How do you check that?

Maybe that's what my issue is

I didn't know that was a thing

[indigo badge]

the wiki 🗿

[mint coral]

Which hammer are you missing

[hardy halo]

Pretty sure the shield had aspects with unique hammers

Or hammers that didn’t work with aspects

I’m sure the hammer with 4 shield thrown doesn’t work with Zeus

doesn’t roll at all*

And beowulf got an exclusive aspect

[granite steppe]

Oof

[granite steppe]

Charged skewer I think

I think it's kinda dumb that like the game has a way for you to check the requirements for every boon in game, but not for hammer upgrades

[mint coral]

Can't be obtained on achilles

[granite steppe]

Huh

That explains a lot

[mint coral]

You can also use the GitHub wiki pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat

[granite steppe]

Idr what the ones are called that I'm missing for the other weapons

[mint coral]

Instead of the fandom one

[granite steppe]

Gotcha, thanks

[open sigil]

so

I have 2.5k gold

And hoarding slash

😏

[indigo badge]

that would've been very cool if hoarding slash did anything

[fervent radish]

Congrats on your 125 damage

[open sigil]

Thank you

[snow hemlock]

After complaining this morning, chaos and achilles did in fact lock in

So yay gonna 100% the game this weekend

(Hopefully)

[fringe dust]

(there's arguments for talos to be worse)

[harsh scroll]

The one time I saw Hoarding Slash value was on a YT video about some person that grinded money from green Lernie's spawns for like 6 hours straight

[rustic vale]

I mean

It’s not too hard to get like 5000 obols

And atp it’s +250 damage per strike

[zinc trellis]

I do think the hoarding slash % should be increased a bit. To like 10-15% maybe

[harsh scroll]

15% would make it slightly better only

You're missing out on Charon's shops and wells to maximize its potential when the damage is a flat boost and doesn't benefit from any % bonuses

There's more to it than just the number

[lavish sorrel]

I wish it was something like 3% of obols -> crit rate on attacks as opposed to an additive buff

[zinc trellis]

Sword hammers are generally just trash lmao

[rustic vale]

If only it were an additive buff

An additive buff would be much better than what it is now

[rustic vale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1092918262649602058/IMG_3411.png?ex=6834d7f3&is=68338673&hm=3b7b8c8fdeec85693123cb6424af75de15b62e117ad36f4198d1c6dfe3c2e7ed&

Yeah that tracks

[zinc trellis]

Double Nova is great lmao

[rustic vale]

Double Nova is easily cancellable

Which is why I placed it there when I made it like

3 years ago

If you don’t intentionally wait, you can just… not have the second wave happen

It’s a tierlist that does need some editting now but I just haven’t been bothered to

cuz world splitter is more like “useful if you now how to use it, but possibly negative if you don’t

[lavish sorrel]

Why are super nova and greater consecration so high up

I just realized

[rustic vale]

?

They’re in “actually useful” because they will do something for you lol

They’re at the bottom of that tier

[latent moon]

They're useful in the sense that they actually do something lmao

Otherwise they're kinda just whatever

[lavish sorrel]

Talked about earlier but double nova and chop 😔

Also cursed slash is a viable high heat option on arthur

[rustic vale]

I

haven’t bothered to update it in like 3 years because it took me longer than I would’ve liked to make it

And it would take the same amount of time today

Now I could fix it today but I’d need to get the image files off my fried laptop

or refind them

[copper sedge]

Situational, not inherently negative

With maxed out aspect of Zagreus, a good Swift Strike, and Flurry/Cursed Slash, you heal at a ridiculous rate

actually I'll do the math one sec

[latent moon]

It's not that usable at higher heats and not great for speed/DPS either

It's a fun build but it's not exactly practical

[copper sedge]

Regardless, I wouldn't call it "unambiguously negative"

[stiff obsidian]

Which

Cursed or flurry

[copper sedge]

Either tbh
If I need to choose one, probably flurry since it doesn't have a heavy hp drawback

[stiff obsidian]

Yeah that same build you described but without cursed slash would be even better

[mint coral]

flurry also makes dash strikes even less safe

[latent moon]

Cursed slash has the hp nerf
Flurry forces a standing strike after a dash strike, which is hella inconvenient for survivability

[stiff obsidian]

Ew dashstrikes

[copper sedge]

That assumes I'm good at avoiding damage, but 10 hp/second is a lot of healing

[latent moon]

So yes it is negative

[stiff obsidian]

Flurry is op mysterra can attest to that

[rustic vale]

This was made with heat and speed in mind rather than casual play and cursed slash only really has a place on high heat arthur in that case

[copper sedge]

oh, can't argue with that then

[rustic vale]

like

for practical purposes you are shooting your own dps in the foot and throwing yourself in a way riskier situation to use cursed slash by standing striking

[copper sedge]

and admittedly I'll never go for cursed slash outside of a death by 1000 normal attacks build

still, very fun

even if it isn't good at high heat

[rustic vale]

and tanking your own max hp puts you in range to get 1-2 shot by enemies at high heat on every aspect but arthur

All your regen doesn’t matter if it just takes a mistake that results in you getting hit twice to kill you

[latent moon]

Typically speaking, tier lists aren't made with fun in mind lol

Otherwise it'd just be subjective, which isn't exactly helpful for anyone

In a live service game, tier lists tend to be a little subjective tho

But hades isn't life service lmao

So the meta has been pretty solidified at this point, and they only changes that get made are like players discovering tech basically

Like guan Yu suddenly being 64 heat viable lmao

Although technically the player didn't discover the tech

But just used it lmao

[rustic vale]

I meam

Does the non-mac glitch 64 clear from Playad use tech?

[copper sedge]

Is that related to Guan Yu being one of the few ways to heal with Lasting Consequences?

[latent moon]

It uses the animation cancel yeah

Pseudo discovered it for bow

[latent moon]

Partly yeah

[rustic vale]

Guan-Yu also deals with dc pretty well

[latent moon]

The animation cancel discovery made spin guan Yu viable for high heat bc of the healing and being able to cut through DC, which typical guan Yu builds couldn't at that point

The fact that it could heal made it a lot better

But without the animation cancel, you'd run out of time

I believe mysterra calculated that the tech saves you like a min and a half or something

And the current clear by playad already goes over like a min or something lmao

If guan Yu couldn't heal, it probably wouldn't be able to clear unless you get like massive chaos juice or something

[rustic vale]

Even Guan-Yu just having a bunch of aoe and healing from enemy hits makes JS way less painful than other aspects tbh

You profit a bit more l

[latent moon]

I mean compared to zeus, eris, and rama, guan Yu has like piss poor aoe damage lmao

[granite steppe]

how the hell do you get kinetic launcher? i've just used demeter fists like 9 times in a row now and i got nothing

[stiff obsidian]

Not rly

I feel mysterra keeps discovering better ways to play existing wep

S

[latent moon]

Oh has he

I thought it was mainly just like zeus

[north sandal]

yeah i dont think i can play hades 1 anymore

i just dont have the patience lmao, everything takes so long to die

i beat it like a year ago just fine but now i just lose motivation by the time i make it to elysium

[rustic vale]

What

Wild statement

Are you just using bad builds or

[north sandal]

no

[rustic vale]

🤨

[north sandal]

i know how to build it just feels terrible lol

[rustic vale]

Do you want your ttk to be 0.01s or

[north sandal]

no i just wanna do more than chip damage on theseus and asterius lmao

[rustic vale]

If you’re doing chip damage to Theseus your builds aren’t coming together properly

[north sandal]

whatever i just dont have the motivation to play this when i can easily make a build in h2 that takes no time to kill anything

[rustic vale]

There are quite a few builds that just shred em

[north sandal]

i used to be able to beat them just fine so idk what happened lol

[rustic vale]

Rusty

[north sandal]

i just gave up mid battle cos i didnt feel like poking and prodding theseus until he decided to die

idk its just not worth the effort anymore jesus

[rustic vale]

[north sandal]

dodging feels like it does nothing either lmao i swear

but in any case ill figure it out

just everytime i decide to boot this up my motivation to play it is lost in like the next minute

maybe im being too hard on myself but idk

[rustic vale]

Those are some really odd symptoms tbh

What are you expecting from dashes that you aren’t getting?

[north sandal]

idk maybe not getting hit when i obviously dodged an attack?

cos there are times i swear on my own life i dodged an attack and i still somehow get hit

idk maybe im just too hades 2 brained but like this just feels terrible to play now that its been like a year since ive played hades 1

[rustic vale]

You should have invincibility frames on your dash unless you dash-strike during your dash, then you lose them at that moment 🤔

[north sandal]

maybe thats it idk

idk what it is the moment i get hit once in this game immediately im just tilted

something about h1 rn just makes me irrationally angry everytime i get hit like once

[rustic vale]

Maybe you have higher expectations for yourself than you can fulfill with your current skill level

Due to losing some of it over the year you weren’t playing

[north sandal]

i guess so

maybe ill look up some h1 build guides and go from there

[rustic vale]

Either use the 32 heat guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies or the less meta build guide pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat

Everything else you can find online tends to suck

Reddit is in the stone age, gaming journals are gaming journal level of quality

(And yes the 32 heat guide does have builds for each weapon)

[fervent radish]

i feel the same in h2 lol

it's just build knowledge and intuition. the games play pretty differently, but good builds aren't hard to put together in either i guess

[stiff obsidian]

I'm too lazy to develop that for h2

I just maxed out godmode and farmed required resources for completion

[torn sinew]

man i still need 14k darkness and 1k jewels for the last house contractor themes..

how do i get them…

[gilded heart]

time to get farming

[native blade]

Bro… Poseidon is hell underrated

Just shredded Meg with T-Dash and Pos- attack

[indigo badge]

no he's not? everyone knows he's strong lol

tidal dash is an absolute beast, a staple of speedrunning too

[native blade]

Zeus is hella glazed tho, maybe he’s just 2nd place so I haven’t heard about him as much

[mint coral]

Most people just click divine dash

And the rest of pos's cores do kinda suck so

[rustic vale]

Tdash is strong

his strike and special are not

[rustic vale]

“Just 2nd place” as if there is a definitive best god

Whether or not a god is good really does depend mainly on the aspect

[native blade]

True but from what I’ve seen Zeus is the most commonly picked.

I agree with you, but when I was here people literally had mods to start with Zeus

[rustic vale]

Where are you seeing this

[rustic vale]

You can just… start with zeus in game

with his keepsake

[native blade]

I know, they had a mod to start with 4 cores or something

[rustic vale]

If you’re talking about the speedrun modpack

That’s for speedrunning

[native blade]

Yeah

[rustic vale]

Ok you’re talking about the speedrun modpakc

[indigo badge]

lmao

[rustic vale]

and they must’ve been playing Eris or Zeus shield because most aspects don’t use zeus

[indigo badge]

that's not for zeus specifically it's for all gods

[rustic vale]

Don’t start with Zeus*

It’s to stop you from having to reset because the 1/4 chance that the core you want doesn’t show up

[native blade]

Yeah, I guessed

didn’t know it wasn’t Zeus specifically tho, Always saw Zeus

my bad

[rustic vale]

You must’ve been talking to some players that only played Eris or Zeus shield then

They’re kind of the only aspects that start with zeus

I mean zag rail and lucifer would as well but those are less common than Eris for the rails

Since zag is kind of just discount zag rail and eris just outperforms luci for speedruns

[rustic vale]

If you were looking for the most common gods, Poseidon, Zeus and Dionysus are the most splashable independent of any build thanks to Tidal Dash, Zeus call and Dionysus Call

[native blade]

Makes sense

[rustic vale]

the least common is probably demeter because she doesn’t appear in any meta-builds as a main goddess has one singular build on one aspect and interferes for duos in a good handful of others

[latent moon]

after poseidon, zeus is prob the most common pick in speedrunning

pos just for tidal dash on most aspects, zeus for supporting boons

namely call

if your build starts zeus, then you're going for jolted -> legendary somehow if you see him enough times lmao

but also call or vengeance

and you're still gonna take pos for dash lmao

the only aspects that prob dont want zues is like hera and beo

hera doesn't technically want pos, beo you only want pos for flood shot and mirage shot

and i guess wave pounding but that's kinda just if you see it, you're not looking for it lmao

it's like pos > zeus > artemis > aphrodite/athena/ares > dio > demeter

for how common they are anyways

[fervent radish]

And Rama

[placid coral]

I can't help but feel like rocket bomb sucks lol

I love it and I think it's a great hammer

but something tells me high level players hate it or smth

rocket bomb + arti + the arti+aph boon

and aph is on my normal attack

did 1k damage in 1 hit

Does ricochet fire work with hestia?

I'm gonna test it now but still

[fervent radish]

We love it

Typically

[placid coral]

ok good

it's a fun hammer

lol

ooo

I could fight charon

in elysium

I'm pretty strong

and with range :D

(I've got 14 minutes with lv1 overtime)

I win :D

[placid coral]

fun build I must say

[rustic vale]

You’re so wrong

You couldn’t be further from the truth

[placid coral]

lol

it just gave off "great for early game, awful for late game" vibes

and considering I was doing 2 heat

I'd say I'm in early game lol

[rustic vale]

Fair enough

The possibility of having fast acting 400 base damage shotgun with cluster bomb is crazy, or a 240 burst with triple bomb

In general rocket bomb just makes your special do more damage, faster

[placid coral]

oh wait cluster works with rocket?

nice

[stiff obsidian]

It's a straight upgrade to the base special, cannot go wrong with that

I don't like to use it because I'm used to how the regular special works opposed to the instant directional rocket

[placid coral]

out of every group of hammers in the game, which set of three would theoretically be the best

[stiff obsidian]

Like working together?

[placid coral]

yeah

[stiff obsidian]

Rocket + cluster + targetting ig

On eris

Or point blank + triple/twin + perfect on rama

[rustic vale]

I mean if you ignored compatibility issues

It’s cluster/triple/rocket

[stiff obsidian]

I didn't ignore

Even if u did it wouldn't be that

Hazard > triple

[hardy halo]

If I already have a save file on the switch and already have a save file on pc steam , will syncing my cross save override any of it?

[open sigil]

chat

aphrodite cast or dionysus cast for hera?

[hardy halo]

#h2-discussion

[open sigil]

its hades 1?

[hardy halo]

Im sorry i forgot hera bow exists 😂

[open sigil]

all good

[hardy halo]

I don’t know what’s the better build but I’d go for aphro personally

[open sigil]

got dio's cast anyways

kinda late

[narrow cobalt]

hey what does blood boiling accually do in the final boss?

except make ur screen weird

[open sigil]

u take double damage

[narrow cobalt]

oh mb

[narrow cobalt]

oh and what do u use the titan blood for?

my brother said its for upgrading weapons but idk how

[indigo badge]

unlock every weapon and then do another run

[narrow cobalt]

oh nice i just did that

[indigo badge]

afterwards skelly will talk to you about it

[timber quest]

my save file is gone and i dont know what to do, any advice?

[gilded heart]

Did you overwrite it with steam cloud

Go to your non cloud save folder look around

[unkempt plank]

yall i got a ?, so im planning on buying a steam deck, I play hades on PS5… can i transfer my hades Save data to it by any chance?

Cause ik im getting either the 512gb model or 1tb model

[rustic vale]

Afaik there isn’t a way

It’s only for switch <-> pc

Or a quick google says xbox can if you sync your microsoft account

but nothing for Playstation

[unkempt plank]

damn

i was just making sure cause the only posts i could find were 2 years old

[latent moon]

well granted, the game hasn't changed in the past 2 years so it's still good info

although on steam deck i'm pretty sure you can download a maxed save file if you dont really want to grind for it i think?

since it's technically a computer or whatever

[placid coral]

is it bad that sometimes I just do a zero heat run?

[fervent radish]

Whatever’s fun

[placid coral]

Just found a fun combo

smoldering air and second wind

wow

18:43

one heck of a run

[compact laurel]

I died when the final boss had like an inch of health left… twice today…

[unkempt plank]

i might do that since ive already done everything EXCEPT the epilogue

[unkempt plank]

can you send me the entire build so i can try it out?

[placid coral]

that's so real

[placid coral]

didn't screenshot it lol

but It's something you can do for any weapon

you just need a decent call

[fervent radish]

Best version is Zeus call with static discharge and double strike. Probably best to start Zeus attack and look for aphro on special or cast and then look for the duo

And more Zeus

[latent moon]

Unfortunately epilogue is already done in the max save file

Up to you if you actually want to experience it lmao

[unkempt plank]

i have 1 god left for epilogue

all i gotta do is go fishing

or whatever dio’s is

[harsh scroll]

Dio requires you to have gifted a handful of ambrosia around

Like 10 if I recall correctly

[unkempt plank]

… either that… max relationship with dusa… or fishin…

IMA GO FISHIN🐟

[agile leaf]

I had subtitles on when i beat the game, is there a version of that final cutscene/display without that? i want to try and do some stuff with it but dont really want to have to put another 200 hours into beating the game again

[torn sinew]

you could probably just search around online

[agile leaf]

couldnt find anything w/o subtitles

[torn sinew]

yeah i tried too

even gpt can’t find it

[agile leaf]

guess ill work w/ what i have

[torn sinew]

i mean once you’re experienced enough you can kinda just run through all of it in like 50 hours

ik because i did 200+ runs on my phone (hades netflix) and i have no clue how long that took but once i got hades on steam i finished the story (not the epilogue) within 50 hours and like <80 runs

[stiff obsidian]

Browse the game files i guess

Should be there, maybe ask in modding server

[frail marsh]

Is there a way aside from using the Chaos aspect of the shield to hear Chaos commentaries while playing?

I think it is just too funny to just be used in that specific scenario

[harsh scroll]

Nope

I think people use Chaos mostly to hear the commentary

[lavish sorrel]

(Because there's no other reason to run chaos when zagshield is right there, gameplay-wise doing the same thing but better)

[harsh scroll]

Chaos aspect if the extra shields could ricochet 📈 📈 📈 (I've already done this joke)

[lavish sorrel]

Early Access

[frail marsh]

I think it's more fun

At least for me

Also because I love the design

I'm biased

Don't take my opinion that seriously

[lavish sorrel]

Ty I was about to type a paragraph about chaos shield special being worthless 😅

[frail marsh]

Hahahahsa

I mean

I know there are better options

But Chaos talking while I try to get a Duo boon is so funny to pass up

And Dio + Aphrodite and PS make it work

[snow hemlock]

1 achievement awayy

And ill be ready to move onto h2

[cinder fractal]

I just bought the sundial for the first time last night

and I was blown away because it was accurate

...because I happened to buy it at 7:48pm

[frail marsh]

Good luck getting it :D

So there is a limit to the pact?

Like

Bounties you can get

[indigo badge]

yup, ends at 20

[frail marsh]

Damn

[indigo badge]

gotta hop on another weapon

[frail marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1206035220298731531/1377713332886179922/2025053.JPG?ex=6839f707&is=6838a587&hm=a45c160713328df3c32f73920c2b96adffbd65ec57094c17860c8ea17bf53329&
They have served me well

[indigo badge]

zag fist hater spotted 🫵

[frail marsh]

HATER?

Oh yeah

I mean

They are not that good

[lavish sorrel]

Better than talos and gilgamesh

[finite rampart]

I just had the fists and knocked like 4 minutes off my highest record. Going from 22 to 16👀

[lavish sorrel]

Sounds like a little more than four

[finite rampart]

I canr count😂

[lavish sorrel]

22-16=6 last I checked

[frail marsh]

Better than Gilgamesh

[lavish sorrel]

In what world is talos > zagfists

[finite rampart]

I also have that time😂😂😂 curious to see if its a standard one or just cioncidence

[frail marsh]

I think Talos = Zag

[finite rampart]

I had maxed talos on my run so I say talos😂

Can't say I have gilgamesh tho😂

[lavish sorrel]

And you're wrong unless your name is scratch

[frail marsh]

It's not worth it

Unless you want to do a Gilgamesh run for the Fated List

[finite rampart]

Yeahh eventually, I'm maxing our everything before I head over to the other aspect on the list

[lavish sorrel]

(Scratch is the resident high heat talos player (currently has the modded talos high heat WR at 58), and has informed me of some ways that talos can utilize the pull for additional safety. It's commonly not known as the safest nor the strongest of the fists though, that title goes to zagfists and demeter respectively)

[frail marsh]

Oh

I didnt know who Scratch was

[lavish sorrel]

Yeah nw

No knowledge about anyone has to be assumed, happy to explain/reformulate anything if it helps

[frail marsh]

Now I think that if I send my Shield's upgrade

You will kill me

[lavish sorrel]

Full-level chaos shield, I'm very aware

[frail marsh]

Yep

And Zags

[lavish sorrel]

Chaos is a fun casual-aspect, hope you enjoy. It sucks, but it can be fun to do random stuff with.

[frail marsh]

:D

[snow hemlock]

Chaos shield seemed so much more fun than zeus to me 😞😞😞

But also i dont play shield willingly ever

[frail marsh]

I think once you get the hang of it
It gets to be pretty fun :D

Was the same for me with the bow too

[snow hemlock]

Yeee bow is fun with chiron or rama aspect to me

[cinder fractal]

That’s the time it is for everybody

[finite rampart]

Ahhh fairrrr

[rustic vale]

It’s standard

[frail marsh]

Started my Darkness Farming Arc

[rustic vale]

Darkness farming for ranks is so grueling

I could only do it for so long before I had to go back to just doing something like speedrunning or high heat

[frail marsh]

SUPERGIANT WHY DID YOU CURSED US WITH THIS

I JUST WANT THE CHAOS THEME

[rustic vale]

325k darkness is just so much

[frail marsh]

AND GETTING TO UNSEEN

[frail marsh]

it is

Im just now in 60k

I've done high heat runs

I completed the game

I just need one more achievement

WHY AM I JUST AT 60K

[rustic vale]

I mean I’m 460 hours in on my switch save file and that one is still 125k off Unseen One

[indigo badge]

zagshield is quite strong though

[snow hemlock]

Darkness farming arc except im trying to level up fated authority and fated persuasion.

[lunar kernel]

Ello

[indigo badge]

why authority? persuasion is much much better

[snow hemlock]

I just mean i have dont have either maxed

[stiff obsidian]

Hades player try not to attack someone for suboptimal decision challenge

[indigo badge]

oh you're not running a meta build? execution 🫵

[snow hemlock]

WOOOO

Got all achievements on steam

Theres like 5 prophecies i havent finished yet so

Idk if its time to move onto h2

[frail marsh]

100% it

Trust me

It's worth the grind

(Don't worry about ranks, 325k darkness is a lot)

Go full Hades house upgrades

or upgrade all aspects

Get all weapons to 32 heat

That's what I'm doing before heading to hades 2 :D

[lavish sorrel]

beat 40 heat 😌

(then forget your goals and come into the rabbithole of high heat hades)

[harsh scroll]

Not until you 100% resources director

[rustic vale]

This is definitely the correct way to handle things

[dull gate]

First time I tried cast-centered build (Hera bow + Dio cast + Zeus/Arte) was quite fun.
2nd I'll try with Afro cast

[harsh scroll]

I remember running Triple Shot on Rama with Artemis atk and a few +crit% stuff and Hunter's Dash, then spamming dash strikes on dad

With an unprepared build I dealt like a whole phase worth of damage

[flat radish]

I only got the game today and am lovely it any tips?

[harsh scroll]

Best cast goes to Poseidon
Best dash goes to Athena for survivability and Artemis for damage output
Reject the fists

[flat radish]

Ok perfect is the second game as good as the first??

[harsh scroll]

That goes to personal preference. Haven't played Hades 2 yet

[flat radish]

Ok fun ill beat this game then hop onto that one

[rustic vale]

The 2nd game also isn’t finished yet

It’s still in early access while Hades is finished and has like

I don’t know how to quantify the amount of content in game nvrmind

[flat radish]

Ok thanks for the heads up

[atomic viper]

Trying to go back to H1 after doing hades 2 multiple times cause i figured i'd enjoy it more now that i'm a confirmed fan
Absolutely not, H1 is so much worse and infuriating, it's crazy. Solid game but so much inferior.

[dull gate]

Shield is blocked almost all frontal dmg.

[atomic nebula]

orpheus has so much enby swag

[latent moon]

"best cast" is incredibly aspect dependent since on most, it doesn't matter at all
Athena dash is fine for survivability, but Poseidon dash does the most damage and should also be considered
Artemis is kinda the "win more" god rather than the damage god bc she doesn't deal consistent damage. For things that you use every so often and already has a high enough base damage, Artemis is fine. otherwise, you'd generally stick to like Aphrodite
Fists are fine to use, a lot of people like using it

[frail marsh]

I believe in Malphon supremacy

Although it do gets carried by the Demeter aspect

[nocturne rain]

I enjoy Malphon in all its aspects, it’s just fun

[frail marsh]

It is

[rustic vale]

You believe in a lie

[frail marsh]

And Im happy that way

[winter scarab]

This is insane advice

[winter scarab]

Me with 100 Gilga clears 😬

[frail marsh]

I think that's more of a testament on how you like to play

[winter scarab]

Indeed

[frail marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1206035220298731531/1378218853586174112/image.png?ex=683bcdd4&is=683a7c54&hm=49681d12872f228f639e305264b43bc97e6b65b6497d509664bc417072743fc3&

I searched Theseus and the photo of him in Bing is the Hades art

[stiff obsidian]

💀

I didn't know bing still existed

[placid coral]

so with aspect of Arthur, would I rather go with
Super nova
Breaching slash
Double nova

[placid coral]

2500 DAMAGE

BONK

how was my first ever em3 fight the easiest I've ever had

traded shadow slash for dash and greed

I hate this anvil

I literally thought

I'd hate to get dash nova from this

[placid coral]

wait how are you able to send images

that'd make things so much easier for me lol

[indigo badge]

send them somewhere else then copy the link and paste it here

[placid coral]

ah

[fierce aurora]

how do stuff stack?
i have +48% damage from chaos
and +60% damage from artemis
(Dash strike)

[mint coral]

Additive

[fierce aurora]

oh

dam

lots of damage

[mint coral]

Everything but dmg reduction/movement speed/trap dmg/crits is additive

(so yeah crit chance/dodge is additive)

[fierce aurora]

i have +900% damage from dash strike to shield enemies, does that mean i have x20 to them or do the precentages here also add up somehow?

like +900% -> x10
dash strike 2x
= 20x?

@mint coral ?

[indigo badge]

additive

[fierce aurora]

normal damage + shield damage are additive?

hm

so only +1000%?

[indigo badge]

only

[harsh scroll]

"Only" 💔

You know how ridiculous it'd be if the +900% alone was multiplicative

[mint coral]

Breaching cross is fists best hammer for a reason

it doesn't have much better stuff

[old bluff]

E upper and k launcher are pretty good

[mint coral]

Ye ye I know

[fierce aurora]

yes i wanted 20x not 10x :(
(11x i guess)

beat hades anyways, not much shield going on there

[harsh scroll]

I once intended on doing a full deflect meme build on shield I should try that already

[mint coral]

Divine dash only run

[fierce aurora]

i had 2x on dash strikes and zeus lightnings on attacks and atermis's arrows on anything so i just did a ton of damage every time i attacked, and i attacked fast

[harsh scroll]

God knows that'd take way too long it's why I'm taking other Athena stuff

[mint coral]

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/s/iPhpBbfqtP

Is fine 🙂

[snow hemlock]

70 minutes is dedication to the game

[lavish sorrel]

idkman

[hardy halo]

I have 200 escape attempts and did 32 on all weapons and I still don’t know what’s the point of Alecto’s rage bar if it fills up automatically when she’s low health anyway

I hate seeing her in my run

[stiff obsidian]

if u dont interupt her it will fill up earlier