h2-discussion

[upper plover]

It's been 4 nights since I've been able to see the gift option with Moros

[tranquil wren]

hm, strange

[reef sail]

If you do something during your run that passes time, you can’t gift anyone things like bath salts or ambrosia when you get back to the crossroads

A few bond established dialogues pass time, so does nemesis jumping your bones

You also might not have anything he wants

[hot delta]

i have a question: i recently got the game on switch 2 recently and made my save file in the first slot, which is the same slot my pc slot was in and now ive enabled cross saves and it says it would have to overwrite it, is there no way to keep that switch 2 file or move it to slot 2 or even have the pc save file be slot 2 on my switch? probably not the end of the world losing the switch 2 file cuz ive only done like 12 runs but still curious

[wide wigeon]

does moros only bath once

[tranquil wren]

no

[upper plover]

I have all the ambrosia, salts, lures, allat

what confuses me is that the gift option doesnt even show up

it'd be one thine if I couldnt offer anything while the gift menu was present

[reef sail]

Is his bond maxed?

[tranquil wren]

infinite giving should make it so that you can gift even at max bond

[reef sail]

Yes but if it’s maxed the only things you can gift all “pass time” which means the gift option disappears if you already passed time

And that can happen during your previous run

The post-epilogue Hecate bath also passes time

[wide wigeon]

do the crossroad folk sniff the bathsalts

[upper plover]

nope

oh, I figured it out

need to fulfill more fates to give him more gifts

but the criteria on accomplishing a lot of these fates are so RNG heavy

[tranquil wren]

oh

probably should've thought about that, my bad

[hollow sand]

guys

is the reminisce? thing new game plus ?

[north quail]

Nah, it does pretty much exactly what it says it will do

[rapid valley]

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Echo's keepsake can pick the option that's blocked by chaos lol

[cunning laurel]

@merry whale did you know abt this

[merry whale]

i did not

funni

[rapid valley]

you can move the save on your PC

[pearl sparrow]

tfw i'm playing aspect of medea skull and pick possessed array on a hammer in erebus... after taking a chaos boon that damages you when you use omega moves and losing a death defiance before even reaching hecate

[crude dragon]

Chaos: "You chose this"

Plus, you could technically just Special a bunch

[pearl sparrow]

yeah, but high fear vow of time is a thing

[rapid valley]

chaos damage doesn't matter if nothing can hit you taps head

[jolly hound]

damn that never occurred to me

I got a shared wealth Pom lol

[north quail]

So, does Aether essence have no interactions other than powering up Chaos’ infusion boon? Like does it have literally no other uses? I guess all essences only care about infusion boons, it just feels a bit odd to be tied to only one Chaos boon specifically

[merry whale]

yea that's basically the only use case rn

[gritty notch]

Guess ps5 never getting physical release ?

[cerulean owl]

What do I need to do to get the ||improbable outcome prophecy|| to appear

[limpid oar]

the vow of time is a suggestion, it's only 5 damage/sec

if you go overtime 🔥

[vital hollow]

Man, Sudden Cleaver Rank 2 is pretty disappointing, only a 5% increase in channel speed

[drowsy mural]

so what character did y'all romance cuz I'm working on romancing everyone my first priority was nemesis and we got that completed a while ago

[prime iron]

eris

[worldly mantle]

nem and icarus

nem was first between the two

[drowsy mural]

you have very good tastes honestly it would be so cool to lift with Nemesis

[worldly mantle]

thank you thank you

nem and melinoe have been my desktop bg and lock screen since the press kit came out

[drowsy mural]

moros is last on my list not because I don't care about him but because he fades into the background too much and I forget he exists

[drowsy mural]

that's adorable my desktop background is a streamer

[worldly mantle]

mel is also my phone keyboard background

the character key arts are just so sick

[drowsy mural]

yeah my phone background is a collage of my buddies it hasn't changed in years

[worldly mantle]

wait actually since i got my new phone both my phone keyboard bg and my phone bg are spider-man 2099 comic covers

forgot about that

[drowsy mural]

also Peak

[worldly mantle]

indeed

[drowsy mural]

I have been absolutely breaking chronos and yet Typhon I've only managed to defeat once

[prime iron]

big monster spawner = hard to beat

[drowsy mural]

that makes sense

[knotty bridge]

Why does 32 heat dream dive feel so much HARDER than normal like GAWD(S)DAM

[bitter stirrup]

Later region enemies are harder no matter how low their HP is in general

[knotty bridge]

Yeah i know, but its like the first region im usually have problems in, once im past that its all good, maybe im just not used to having to approach the regions differently without boons

unless its prometheus' region because get absolutely dunked on you nerd

[bitter stirrup]

Yeah what I meant is early regions are gonna be harder than usual no matter what because the HP downscaling doesn't account for the enemies themselves being harder to deal with

Then later regions are still gonna be hard because it's also unfamiliar

[knotty bridge]

Ohhhh okay yeah I just misunderstood, yeah that makes sense, ive not long finished the game and I got my first back to back chronos/typhon regions and that SUCKED so bad

[lean bronze]

i love how i always hit tart or summit r1 when playing with at least rivals 1 and forfeit

when i start without i hit olympus or thessaly with menace

[knotty bridge]

lmao yeah Ive done a few runs and it feels like theres WAY more chance to start with summit/tart than anything else, I keep rivals on all the time so a back to back i am fighting for my LIFE, sweating and crying

also forfeit? I forget what that one is , is that the time one?

[lean bronze]

you lose first boon of region

[lean bronze]

WE NEVER RESET
WE NEVER KNEEL
WE DIE WITH GRACE
OUR HEADS HELD HIGH

[knotty bridge]

OoOoo yeah thats rough, I hate that one

what heat do you usually run?

[lean bronze]

32-40

[knotty bridge]

I run 32 with the refusal to use the time one because I despise it in my bones

[lean bronze]

So many people hate on time, it really aint that bad
Seriously
Twenty mins a very long time
Try it out

[knotty bridge]

Yeahhh I know the 28 minutes is actually just free fear, and even with 20 im good for like 95% of runs but idk its just irks me in my core, thats most games with a time limit tho tbf

[lean bronze]

by refusing to take time you are forcing yourself to take harder vows

which in turn make game longer

[limpid oar]

Honestly if you're at a fear level you'd consider high, reset dream dives that get the wrong starter region

[knotty bridge]

I WILL NOT GO OUT A COWARD

[lean bronze]

thats the spirit
Glad to hear it

[misty star]

What game to people consider harder Hades 1 or 2 both in low fear/heat and high fear/ heat

[bitter stirrup]

I say 1 is harder both ways but also that's because I put in way less hours into that one

[drowsy mural]

2 definitely especially the surface

[misty star]

I was having the same though considering I have like 300 hours on 2 and only like 50 hours on one I am going to find Hades 2 easier

[cursive nacelle]

hades 1 is harder for 2 reasons.

1. Your build options are weaker, even a great run with good rolls it will still usually take 30-50 seconds to kill the final boss in H1. Compared to 15-30 in H2

2. There's very few healing/damage reduction options in H1. If you eat damage in the rooms between boss fighs that will usually stick.

In H2 there's a decent amount of boons/options will provide permanent survivability. Like health regen per room, armor that refreshes every room. Ignoring the first few damage instances per room

[woven needle]

1, I don't think I beat hades rivals more than ounce

The heat systeme too compared to the fear systeme is nuts

[buoyant matrix]

hades 2 is mechanically harder but less punishing with rng

stubborn defiance in h1 made you able to facetank a ton of stuff

[woven needle]

could you say making a build is easier in 2?

[cursive nacelle]

easily yes. Build variety is so much higher, with every god being generally atleast good. And loads of synergies possible

[jolly hound]

and we have jpom too now

[limpid oar]

Melinoe is just so powerful it makes this game easier imo

Also fear is more balanced than heat

[unkempt zodiac]

my personal logic for why i like timer is that it encourages you to play actively rather than passively. you can win most normal enemy encounters by spamming a ranged attack and your cast and never getting close to taking damage, but that kind of play is frankly boring

if im playing in a fun way, im also playing in a way that gets me to victory at least within the constraints of time 2

but i pretty much always play time 3; its so much easier in h2 than it is in h1

[drowsy mural]

yeah I already played pretty actively a little too aggressive somet imes but

[torn wind]

Timer is very forgiving in hades 2 compared to hades 1

But that’s largely due to things like less waves per chamber on average, less encounters on average, not having to kill every enemy for the next wave to spawn, bosses generally being faster, etc

Timer will eventually become trivial for most players under 40-50 fear just because they’re getting better at room clearing

After that though it becomes an issue due to all the time wasting vow you have to turn on

[cursive nacelle]

yeah timer was a nightmare in H1 because of the akward spawn animations.

losing 2-10 seconds every room because of slow spawns was absolutely awful.

the worst ones being when the room would spawn only a few enemies, you kill them and only one enemy spawns. Repeat 2-5 times

[somber nimbus]

why is the trial of destiny five stars?

it gives you a good build, three death defiances, persistence

sets up you for duos and legendaries

[torn wind]

🤷‍♂️ Once you've done 20+ fear all the trials are pretty easy aside from a handful and obviously the chaos above/below ones

And then everything gets thrown out the window in high fear

[crude dragon]

That's the one in Olympus that sets you up for a juicy King's Ransom, yeah?

[somber nimbus]

no, zeus + ares

[cerulean owl]

There a chance of a physical release of hades 2 for Xbox and ps ?

[torn wind]

Doubtful else it would’ve already been mentioned

Games been available for well over half a year now and available on those consoles for about 2 months

Betting only reason it got a switch physical release was cause Nintendo wanted to push it in stores during the exclusivity deal

[jolly hound]

Smart of Nintendo this was the first year I used it more than my ps

[cerulean owl]

Man I would love to buy a physical copy for my Xbox I got the first one on there would’ve been cool but God I dread limited run getting their hands on it