h2-for-new-players

[glacial finch]

with hades 1 i said i would start a new save for 1.0 to experience everything in full and then never did lol

[worldly pulsar]

Start new save > realize you have to grind everything again > nvm

[solar fractal]

i did that multiple times but i didnt stick with it until recently. and then i stopped at credits, i just wanted to see it again

[glacial finch]

literally 😭

[crystal pier]

I did a hell mode second run for hades 1 and it worked pretty well

kept things interesting enough to go through it all again cause it was hard

[midnight badger]

Yeah, it's way more grindy than the 1st. The 1st after a while it was only cosmetics. This one adds things of value every time so you can't skip anything.

[lilac sundial]

they have said they will add stuff to make it more homely, so hopefully upgrade stuff, hang some lights, across the crossroads, get poor Meli a real bed

[drowsy jackal]

This is a friendly reminder that most of the hades 2 OST is already on Spotify if you dig into Darren’s profile

[hazy umbra]

tyvm

[drowsy jackal]

The risen fleet is currently my fave

Absolute banger

God this game is amazing
I genuinely wanted to call in sick to work today and stay at home and play but…
You know

I gotta make ends meet somehow lol

[celest rain]

and unlike Hades 1, this game wont even launch on my work computer

ofc i don't advocate to playing games at work

but well.....XD

[nova parcel]

Not gonna lie friend this is also me

Even worse i am wfh so i am very tempted to "take a break" and game (dont do this)

[drowsy jackal]

Oh yeah that was me on Saturday
I was doing chores and cleaning and such cause I was supposed to have guests
And the I was like “eh - one run couldn’t hurt”

Suddenly it’s 3 hours later and I’m like

[nova parcel]

Its chronos messing up with our time fr

[warped ember]

hahah same, i thought i'll just do one run yesterday and then i meet new NPCs for the first time and have some more lore happen and unlock something new and obviously now i want to keep playing

[nova parcel]

My nephew begged for me to play another game that he liked to see because I keep playing Hades / Hades 2 for hours 😂😂

[warped ember]

aww

[celest rain]

new super challenge, complete a run in Hades and Hades II in tandem

[drowsy jackal]

Nah - do a hades 1 run
Go all the way up
Then play hades 2 and go back down again

[nova parcel]

A trip across the underworld!!

[drowsy jackal]

Seriously
They gotta put an Easter egg where ||if you manage to get all the way to Tartarus in under 15 minutes you’ll see zag jumping out the window like in h1||

[nova parcel]

||Mel: (arriving to the house)
Zag: (lands in front of the door) oh hey mel
Mel: oh hey brother. Up?
Zag: yup.||

[drowsy jackal]

Yeah kinda like this

#supergiant-games message

[drowsy jackal]

so i just checked the files and i saw a thing called...
F10.exe

it's a bug raport thingy...
AND IT'S AN ONION!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1239523832491151380/image.png?ex=66433c06&is=6641ea86&hm=fcf2f4480186881586917b0d8a80094488f42fc532a98c65819965495cc3c73c&

that's all
i just find it adorable

[primal trench]

It's not an onion, its DA onion

[drowsy jackal]

hang on

what's my granny doing here?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1239524341847429131/image.png?ex=66433c80&is=6641eb00&hm=821c1ca8426f4fd3afce5f669e4390057106d5635664907bbb599a4fdc967ef5&

[primal trench]

Aks demeter

[drowsy jackal]

oh my god
so - according to steam charts - hades 1 had an all-time peak at 50k players, right?
and that's all of it - through EA and 1.0

hades 2 already DOUBLED THAT!
102K all time peak
43k playing right now, and it's during the slow hours so it's probably gonna climb up to around 80k at peak hours

this is insane

[fading ivy]

Yeahh, I checked it a while ago as well, it's doing crazyyy good compared to Hades 1!!:D

[drowsy jackal]

which was already like 98% on steam after 1.0

oh my god i've got ||cute little fellas following me in the crossroads now||

oh this is adorable

don't know what i did to spawn them, but still
cute

[urban rapids]

It stores the model information for characters/assets

[worthy ocean]

Why...why is it called 👵 ?💀

[urban rapids]

No idea

https://www.radgametools.com/granny.html

[bronze plaza]

Have you met the first boss at ||the surface|| yet?

[drowsy jackal]

oh yeah ||both of them||
cleared them out on my first try somehow

[bronze plaza]

Incredible

||well during the Polyphemus fight, some of the sheep on the battlefield explode. The spirits following you are those dead sheep 🥺||

[tame dock]

||are the 3 fates in the game already? If they are, what’s the condition to find them?||

[bronze plaza]

I’m afraid not for the moment

[tame dock]

Unlucky

[wispy crest]

not actualy

[tame dock]

Wdym?

[wispy crest]

they are not in the game for now

we need the rest of the adventure

[peak osprey]

||Is the surface route complete? I find it way too short so i assumed that its because its in early access plus the sprites for some surface npc are great lmao||

[fading ivy]

Yeah, not sure how much, but more will definitely be added! || Homer also mentions it when you beat Eris||

[tepid schooner]

Thanks so much, I needed that 😁 currently my favourites are Coral Crown and I'm Gonna Claw, and I've been listening to them on YouTube until now xD

[fading ivy]

yess, same her,love both of those song so much, they're so good!!!

[peak osprey]

makes sense

[thin cosmos]

i curious do we have any further info for next coming update like when and what ?

[peak osprey]

||do we know anything about the oath? like is it fully completed? aren't going to add new enemies as you increase the difficulty or an extreme mesures?||

||I always thought that difficulty increasing on the first game was a bit poor, hope they make a better system this time (mostly because there is no content like extra enemies) maybe they could allow you lock some cards capacity behind a certain level of fear||

[pulsar blade]

can anyone tell me how the ||gold purse|| keepsake works? like when do i get the gold i don't understand

[fading ivy]

It just gives you the gold once you equip it(when in the middle of a run) and if you equip it before starting a run you get it at the start

[pulsar blade]

thanks!

[fading ivy]

No worries! :D

[pulsar blade]

apparently i just didn't know my gold coin count before i equipped it mid run

[fading ivy]

yeahhh, understandable!

[peak osprey]

||what's left to check on early access? I have beaten both paths, saw the infernal arms checked the arcana cards saw most keepsakes and im thinking if there is something else i could be prepared for when 1.0 releases||

[candid acorn]

im curious about possible steam achievement progress when 1.0 goes live, has there been anything reported on how that will be handled? is it going to retroactively check progress or will I need a new save to get the achievements (which would make sense, but then I won't specifically grind out all the resources till completion lol)

[vagrant finch]

Nothing yet but I’m pretty sure stuff that’s progression based (like unlocking a certain incantation) will be given to you. That’s how it worked when I transferred my hades 1 save from Xbox to steam. Some things may have to be redone but the unlocks prob won’t be

Although we don’t know for sure, I wouldn’t worry about waiting for 1.0 just to get achievements, SGG seems commited to make EA work with 1.0

[candid acorn]

even if they wouldnt, I could still do it with the SAM tool but I figured no harm in asking

but yeah, I've beaten most things in the game and am now exploring the different weapons and looking for interresting builds 😄

certain things (like farming large amounts of ||psyche|| for ||that final arcana point|| I have not done since I need a lot)

or farming multiple ||G. Apple|| to make a ton of ||Nectar|| lol

[jovial pasture]

theyre so fire

[jovial pasture]

it should just automatically get them when u open the game right

with most other early access games I've played thats how it worked

[candid acorn]

in that case I probably dont need to worry too much about it

[jovial pasture]

yeah im sure a dev like sgg will make sure u dont have to redo every achievement

[elder bough]

#h2-feedback message @cobalt fractal you’re supposed to split feedback so we can all vote in your individual points separately! I’d like to take a vote on only a few of the things you’ve said

[drowsy jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-what-que-recalculando-loading-gif-19097337

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1239586384994504804/Hades_II_32.png?ex=66437648&is=664224c8&hm=26188fb9272c1f1fe85da207fc9fb46b9fbd2abf309145eb37b0cb659fcb98d7&

thanks, hestia!

[cobalt fractal]

ah damn, sorry

@elder bough now you have to agree with me on everything 🤓
which points do you disagree with?

[worthy ocean]

Basically, burn baby burn

[drowsy jackal]

yeah more like burn all my best boons away

[hoary ferry]

without spoiling, how far along is the story rn?

[opaque cliff]

that's kinda hard to do without spoiling

[hoary ferry]

uh a percentage figure?

would that work idk

[opaque cliff]

It's inherently a shot in the dark since we can't fully know the Hades writers' intentions but, my very rough ballpark would be 60%?

[hoary ferry]

gotcha, thanks

[warped ember]

it feels like more though

there's so much content

[worthy ocean]

Without any progression post final fight its like 50% of main story

But probably side stories are at around 80-90%

[white swan]

Man i really need the upgrade that shows possible boons that all the olympians offer. Im having a hard time remembering this stuff

[jovial pasture]

hearth gain is so good
it feels a little too good

the magick regen is sm higher than anything else

[timid lagoon]

oh, there's a dialog acknowledging early access 🙂
"we but wait"

[verbal grail]

Do u guys prefer hades or hades II design?

[orchid walrus]

Wdym by design?

Too broad of a word, gameplay design? Art in general? Specific characters?

[elder bough]

Hey! I was away :) I disagreed with 4 and 1, and I can’t speak on 2 yet

[cobalt fractal]

I see! so I assume you like the drifting on high speed sprint?
and for hammers, why do you disagree here?

[drowsy jackal]

• inhales *
  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1239623534938951740/aaaaaaaaaaa.gif?ex=664398e1&is=66424761&hm=1a7a27cf7d05dbba66e898c7b08e524aed030e83f98a9fdcf90585a591b8ad12&

lesson learned

[naive stump]

Did you get sheep'd or just dashed the other way

[drowsy jackal]

this thing has +50% sprint speed

[drowsy jackal]

yeah i got sheep'd

[solar fractal]

oh god its so horridly crunchy

[cobalt fractal]

thats what you get for not taking frog with you 😦

[drowsy jackal]

yeah i don't know what happened
the gif looks fine when it's on my hard drive

but then i uploaded it and discord deep-fried it to hell and back

also
yeah - thanks, game
that's my main magick regen right there
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1239624273190981692/Hades_II_35.png?ex=66439991&is=66424811&hm=9ccb0457f64074612a5ffdf94ca44c080bbef445446f2b0db4888c2f0926eb85&||

[naive stump]

||hades cast moment?||

[drowsy jackal]

yeah

[solar fractal]

btw, stuff like this should probably go in a different channel even if spoiler tagged 👀

#h2-builds-and-combat or just #h2-discussion ?

[drowsy jackal]

aight
i'll keep that in mind

im just gonna post goofy stuff like this
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1239624827019722772/Hades_II_33.png?ex=66439a15&is=66424895&hm=e52b8c717fb68fc45d5a043bb15d9ecbe4f13352684236d3648d6beca10b33f9&||

he just... didn't care at all

[narrow granite]

My save still is kinda bugged because of ||familiar incantation not appearing after seeing the cat in both the woods and near the docks, even after 25ish hours of play and multiple times beating the game||

||tried to die right after meeting the cat on the docks, with and without the fishing rod||

[drowsy jackal]

meeting it does not trigger the incantation
you gotta play some more

[narrow granite]

||my backlog is now empty, I don't have any other incantation appearing ||

||oh, one thing I might have not done is playing enough with the tablet tho||

[drowsy jackal]

[narrow granite]

If so, what a weird trigger haha

[agile siren]

do you have (spoiler for familiar stuff) ||the arcana giving death defiance?||

[orchid walrus]

That seems like it could be a trigger, using the tool at least once

I know ||Tula refused to spawn on the docks until I got at least one fish||

[lilac sundial]

I don't know but I am holding onto like tons of flowers and fish I could be selling for bones but just don't want to cause I might need them for the cauldron.

[zinc quest]

“No spoilers”
Comes to channel, sees spoilers*
Mfw:

[verbal grail]

Art in general

[orchid walrus]

Generally I prefer the God's from Hades 1 (altho Aphro is an improvement imo, and Hephaestus is a good one too)

But all in all, I love both about equally.
And I'll be the weird one out and say I like this version of Chaos better than the original.

[urban rapids]

is it even possible to evade the sheep debuff

[fading ivy]

Yup, you can like dash through it over and over for like 5 ish times

[urban rapids]

oh sick

[naive stump]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1229078264811618305/1232527225191141539/Dodging_poly.mp4?ex=663a42ad&is=6638f12d&hm=49ef2e5f9a6bfa174d1d340e3aeff06c2fffb2854fd8451aae0a15dd59c1c14c&

[urban rapids]

wild

[naive stump]

Once you (incantation)
||Unlock familiars, frinos can block the orb for you||

[ionic goblet]

possible? yes. reasonable? not really

[naive stump]

Dodging the attack is ez, tho is annoying depending on the other attack that Hec does

[ionic goblet]

I find it much easier to get hit in the corner and wait out the curse

Ill end up taking more damage trying to avoid it than I would otherwise

[drowsy jackal]

oh yeah - it's quite easy
i just like goofing around and going fast

also - you can kill ads after getting sheep'd
just baaaaah them to death

[naive stump]

Can also use the trees if you get sheep'd

[drowsy jackal]

ye

also - i can't get over me's running animations
she's naruto-running with sister blades
and with the torches she's literally doing the headless kamikaze from serious sam

see for yourself

[trim latch]

You can also use the spawned witches and let them get hit with the curse instead

[drowsy jackal]

really?

[stoic tree]

Is hades 2 connected to hades 1?

[drowsy jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-what-que-recalculando-loading-gif-19097337

[balmy bolt]

Yes
It's a sequel

You COULD play it without playing the first if you wanted but you'd miss quite a few things

[narrow granite]

Have basically everything but this incantation
But I will be testing out later ||using the tablet more||

[naive stump]

#h2-feedback message @nocturne shuttle familiars can already be given extra treats and do what you mentioned

(tho not full on interactions, just buffs)

[nocturne shuttle]

Thank goodness!

[runic star]

Just wanna say... I frickin' love this game. It's fun, it's challenging and it's hitting me in the feels. Thank y'all for making such a beautiful, thoughtful piece of art.

[drowsy jackal]

i can't believe this Korb's new album comes with a free game!

im kidding, of course
but come on - listen to this sax solo
https://youtu.be/mqng4Szbb2c?t=307

this game should be rated 18+ with this amount of sax

[hidden tree]

you dont need to be doing allat, dashing back and forth is enough, I will record a video in a minute

[naive stump]

Ik ik, I just don't like doing it like that lmao

(now I just have eat the hex)

[drowsy jackal]

i thought they eat bugs tho

[naive stump]

What is magic but weird bugs

[timid lagoon]

seriously, was just listening to this piece earlier
it's so fun

the music is inspired

[stable heath]

If I'm not running tight deadlines I deliberately take longer on him in hopes of reaching the sax solo and sometimes I'm just that slow and end up hearing it even trying to go at full speed

[elder bough]

I think it feels fine in that the drift lets me actually run in a real arc which just feels cool. It would also be fine as directly octagonal but I am enjoying the current state so I don’t see a need to change it personally. Hammers were never swappable in hades 1 and I felt like if I was able to swap them it would just be so easy to farm wins. In hades 2 even though it is harder to get good boons going I think we should try to fix that by giving more of them not more ways to influence the ones we get. I love getting a lot of boons! I’d prefer that route over fated persuasion working on hammers.

[turbid comet]

Work done, time to dive back into it

[twin crown]

Hi! I have a question, no spoilers please. How do I check my inventory if there is one

For example to see how much ash I have

I’m very early in the game at the moment

[naive stump]

Left on the dpad/I on keyboard I think?

[royal pumice]

Check your controls, but super early on you'll have to wait on a dialogue with Schelemeus for him to tell you what button it is

[twin crown]

Don’t recognise that name so I guess I’m not there! Thanks! Second question, my hex, the first and only time it was enabled for me, did not work even when I was at 0 mana. Is that a bug I should have reported or was I maybe going about it wrong?

[royal pumice]

He is the NPC you meet in the training grounds, where you pick your weapons, do you remember what hex it was?

[twin crown]

Oh I’ll try again next run to speak to him again, and the hex was twilight curse

[royal pumice]

I don't know the details, assuming you used it when the moon icon was above Melione's head+enemies were still in the field, it could be a bug, if you run into it again you can try reporting it just in case

[twin crown]

Okay one more sorry, how do I check what boons I have on?

[royal pumice]

I dunno your controls, try the d-pad buttons if you're on controller, if not, try checcking the button input in settings

[twin crown]

Tyy

[mortal shuttle]

Hexes require you to spend a certain amount of mana in a given encounter before you can use them; the moon icon above your head is an indicator that the hex is ready. If you have a Hex that requires more mana than is in your bar and you don't have mana regen available (from boons or arcana cards), that hex won't be usable until you increase your mana pool.

[twin crown]

Thank you! Another question guys, trying to use my psyche to raise my grasp to activate a new cast … I have lots of psyche but it’s not really doing anything for me, anyone have some guidance?

[eager wraith]

Do you need guidance on how to upgrade your grasp?

[final obsidian]

you need to click on Melinoё's portrait and upgrade it like you would any other stat

same screen where you pick arcanas

[twin crown]

Yes exactly! Omg thanks

[eager wraith]

If you're on controller keep tapping right till you're past the arcana cards

[twin crown]

Didn’t realise I could venture to that side of the screen lol

[eager wraith]

It is a little bit hard to notice at first, true

Also, left on the d-pad opens up the boon list on the left, and right on the d-pad should open up your inventory so you can see how many resources you have (Which you can rebind in the controls menu if you'd prefer a different button for either)

[final obsidian]

yeah, nothing really indicates it's clickable tbh

[spark spruce]

does the game have an ending yet?

[twin crown]

A lot of this is confusing at first, don’t know if that’s just a me thing or there’s too many like things to collect and use… it could contribute itself well if the game is really longer than hades one

Last time early access lasted two years and I’m hoping and praying it won’t be this long for hades 2!

[final obsidian]

i just hope we won't have to restart the whole playthrough from scratch after major story patches drop

in all likelihood we will though

[warped ember]

hmm is there any reason that progress loss will be forced though? i plan on starting a new save for v1.0 but still don't think i'll lose progress on the current one

[royal pumice]

Your progress will remain I'm pretty sure

[twin crown]

I heard that did not happen for hades 1 so I’m sure the progress data can and will be saved

[eager wraith]

Depends on what exactly you mean In terms of an ending to the story ala hades 1, unfortunately not, it halts because the rest is yet to come, but! if you're instead asking gameplay-wise, as in if an isolated full run through the underworld is completable, yes! that much you can do

[rigid glacier]

damn I was just so close killing ||Chronos for the first time, died in his second phase||

[spark spruce]

ok thanks

[final obsidian]

i'm not saying it'll be forced, there'll just be things you could have seen earlier in the story but didn''t because they were not yet there

which if you like whatever supergiant is doing enough does basically force a new save

[eager wraith]

If you think you'd rather see the story in full, then v1.0 will probably be the release for you, the current release is kind of like a very open playtest where the community can give continual feedback and help perfect the game as it develops (It's also just wonderful to get to try out the gameplay for die-hard fans of the first lol )

[astral wigeon]

As far as I've played, the story seems mostly complete and there's just a lot of placeholder art for various characters and cutscenes. Some of the dialogue I've encountered might have had a little more impact if the character's expressions changed with different lines.

[azure gull]

wow you just made one of my favorite fight songs even better. guess I've defeated him too quickly lol

[eager wraith]

That's not what I meant, it's true that there's plenty of dialog to go around already for sure, rather, the ending is yet to come Like in Hades 1 that will be saved for v1.0

[elder bough]

@pearl wolf #h2-feedback message isnt it just cause it's IIII on watches

[royal pumice]

Why would watches do that

[elder bough]

dont ask me, it's a tradition

@proven mulch bug report that with

#h2-feedback message

[proven mulch]

ah alr

[elder bough]

@covert hemlock #h2-feedback message it does.

it's in red right at the end of the very short boon description

or something, i had it last run but already forgot exactly what it looks like

[covert hemlock]

Yeah, that isn't the description of the boon, that's just the name

Looking through the list of a dozen buffs to find the name isn't helpful

[elder bough]

oh i get it. yeah it would be tough later in the run i suppose?

[covert hemlock]

This was triggered by me trying to find Mean Streak, which I didn't notice because its in the bottom as a buff that can change rather than in the list of boons, but yeah its annoying and would be easy QoL to just have the boon listed

[elder bough]

@rocky scaffold to report bugs btw

[kind heart]

Just started playing today and feeling overwhelmed lol

[proven mulch]

yea i felt the same way, it's easy to get used to though

[kind heart]

There’s a lot more resources to get the hang of that’s for sure

[weary folio]

Yeah,they really added a whole new ecosystem

[elder bough]

it's awesome

[kind heart]

It’s awesome, I’m sure I’ll get used to it eventually lol

[elder bough]

@sullen osprey #h2-feedback message you could very specifically what

oh know that very specifically athena has a lot of similarities.

...like what? i dont know what similarities they had

[sullen osprey]

i guess i meant specifically and intricately

rather than picking whichever seemed best in the moment

[elder bough]

you mean you could plan?

I can't plan without my boon list so im stuck 30 hours in winging it in 2 smh

[sullen osprey]

basically. could choose boons and doors, reroll with more intention

[elder bough]

i cant speak to that without playing with the boon list lol

maybe ill come back and see if i agree when i have it

[ionic birch]

so which weapon do you guys use? I am using the axe for most runs. I unlocked the flames one and I am dying way faster lmao

[hazy umbra]

I mostly play the Axe myself

[ionic birch]

Yet to beat the biome 2's boss though

[ionic birch]

nice

fellow axe enjoyer

[hazy umbra]

if you're on Axe, the trick to beating the boss is to group them up together so you can whirl and damage all three at the same time, considering they share the same HP bar altogether

[ionic birch]

Gotcha. It's only the second time I made it to that boss

[lost heron]

I am a spin to win enjoyer

[ionic birch]

so, still figuring out attack patterns and stuff

[hazy umbra]

I can help you in #h2-builds-and-combat

[cunning prism]

The cast mechanic is really fun once you understand it better

[glossy cypress]

Hey all, quick question: is the top left area of the crossroads (the blocked door with the red barrier) openable yet? Or is that something that we'll get later on?

[uncut seal]

I like how in both games it is taking me a tremendous amount of time to even bother with the cast

[wraith copper]

its unlockable with a bit more story progress

[glossy cypress]

Awesome, just what I wanted to know. Thanks!

[primal trench]

It's even stronger on this one

[uncut seal]

I also am allergic to getting close to enemies (poke strats my beloved)

[wraith copper]

cast is your zone control. makes poking even beter

[runic iris]

Looks like devs are focussing on improving the resource gathering tools and dash and sprint thingy by end of this month.

[drowsy jackal]

yay

although i don't mind them the way they are now

but if this means that more people will enjoy the game then

im more worried about balance changes though

...aphro's gonna get nerfed, isn't she?

[wraith copper]

she has about the same damage scaling as in hades 1 so probably no

[rigid maple]

guys i want to type in the hades feedback chat but am not allowed to, read the rules and all what am i missing ?

[outer knot]

you need to grab the hades 2 feedback role to type in the feedback chat

[rigid maple]

works thank you:)

[drowsy jackal]

Yeah I was comparing her to other boons in h2

[drowsy jackal]

Oh yeah
That’s one of the really few minor gripes I have with this game
When fighting mini bosses (or bosses that don’t end the run) those fights usually go by so fast I can’t even listen to the cool solos

[torpid berry]

hi yall how do i report bugs ingame

[hazy umbra]

is your game frozen rn ?

or there's something in the frame of the game you can report

iirc you can press F10 and it'll create a bug report that you can type into, it auto-sends to Supergiant

[velvet quartz]

lol I just found out how to increase my Grasp. -_-

[hazy umbra]

better late than never, lol

[torpid berry]

no had a glitch in one of the asphodel encounters i cant pick up ash and my character is running all silly like

[hazy umbra]

is it still happening rn ?

[torpid berry]

ya

[hazy umbra]

press F10 and just send the screenie in like that, then press escape and see if Quit Game is highlighted

if it is, it means your run is saved and you can exit, then restart your game and see if you can pick the Ash up

[torpid berry]

sadly since the reward hasnt been picked up ill have to restart my run

[hazy umbra]

oh

is Quit Game not highlighted ?

[torpid berry]

no its greyed out

[hazy umbra]

ah, then run is trashed then sadly

[dim cove]

Ive had this happen before. I just had to quit out

[hazy umbra]

no quit option is the thing though

[dim cove]

Game considers you still in combat since you didnt pick up reward after encounter

[torpid berry]

its okay im used to having to start new runs at this point lolol

[hazy umbra]

If that's greyed out, alt f4'ing will act like a Give Up and returns you home

[golden cobalt]

noob question but does a night = a run? cause i'm at 13 nights but I feel like ive done more runs than that so far...

[frail basalt]

I’m not certain how ||chaos trials|| are counted, but besides that, nights equal runs.

[golden cobalt]

ok thank you!!!

[rapid badger]

Frinos the Frog is honestly the best character to exist in any piece of media ever
objectively

[drowsy jackal]

Well I would agree…

If it wasn’t for

How do I reply to messages from the feedback channel?

[vagrant finch]

Thanks

[naive stump]

Prob just ping them here/link the message from feedback (or other channel if spoilers needed)

[ocean void]

ribbit

[honest hearth]

My right thumb is so sore from playing every day for many hours

[eager wraith]

If I had to guess, Hestia might go through some changes since some have been commenting on her balancing compared to Poseidon

[sleek cloak]

I don't see why she should get nerfed - yes she gives higher % damage for the attack or special than Hades 1 but that's why it no longer inflicts the Weak curse, seems balanced to me

[nova flare]

yeah but in melee builds it feels like she's the default choice and speccing into other boons feels bad when you can double your melee damage right away.

It's less of a balance issue in my opinion and it's more that she's crowding out the room for other builds

[sleek cloak]

So players have a choice to get high %dmg from Aphro but no curses, or opt for other gods who give lower %dmg but also inflict a curse on the attack/special (Hera, Demeter etc.)

[nova flare]

this is my opinion anyway, im just a scrub who only does 8 fear

[sleek cloak]

That depends on the melee build in question

Sure Aphro gives a huge attack boost but it gives you nothing else, leaving you in need of other boons to properly spread out your build, or otherwise settling for a glass cannon playstyle

Meanwhile if I take Demeter on attack (my go-to for spinning axe) it gives a much lower % bonus but that's why it gives me CC, whereas with Aphro armored enemies could damage me no problem while spinning

I am concerned that if they nerf Aphro's damage to the ground there would be no reason to pick her, as there are other gods that not only offer bonus % damage, but also have an added effect to top it off

[zenith torrent]

When i used her she didn’t seem to add much? And i could have sworn she added weakness too

[sleek cloak]

The bonus is only for nearby enemies, the bonus is big like +80% damage and that's just the common boon. Attack and special boons don't add weak tho, only the cast and sprint I believe (non damaging abilities)

[zenith torrent]

Oh maybe that’s what i’m confusing it with then

[drowsy jackal]

aight 👏
time for my daily run...

...or 7

[wraith copper]

no shes not. theres different considerations but considering the effects of hestia and hephaestus have a more terrible time being in melee orr being in slow builds, i can see why youd gravitate towards aphrodite. but apollo, hera and demeter also all bring into the table some strong pros if you incorporate them into melee builds. apollo attack in particular is a favorite in #h2-builds-and-combat to be used on axe just because of the ridiculous range you get making the axe's slow swings a bit safer

[ember herald]

Good afternoon

[drowsy jackal]

HOLY-
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1239979090602102876/Hades_II_42.png?ex=6644e404&is=66439284&hm=a45839f7ba64ae59c4f905ea91e9bbd18db912bee0dda8523f275dfc4d2ba213&||

that was close

[ionic birch]

Is there somewhere in the crossroads where I can see the stats i.e no.of runs, enemies slain, deaths etc?

[eager wraith]

I believe at a certain point that is able to be unlocked

[trail zenith]

Here I am still trying to get my first win on Chornos. That SOB is tough.

[ionic birch]

okay, gotcha

[clever lynx]

So true

[elder bough]

@spring oyster #h2-feedback message report bugs with F10 in game

@tulip moon #h2-feedback message Poseidon is already easily the best god lmao

Maybe eventually it will make sense to buff him like that but not rn

[naive stump]

We need something vs the ||fire hazards anyways, is annoying||

[drowsy jackal]

HOLY DAMAGE OUTPUT, BATMAN!
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638031423340806185/1239987381990457444/holy_damage_output_batman.mp4?ex=6644ebbd&is=66439a3d&hm=7d61f5cc92884441250139ace7f196f9dd41c91ab2b0f5976196607f895bd662&||

i... still lost the run
the spinny gold bayblade of bullcrap got me again

[elder bough]

@tough wigeon you double posted the blind mod thing in feedback

[zenith torrent]

Woah how did that happen??

[nova flare]

Crazy damage 👏🏾

[tough wigeon]

It wasn't going through, so I thought some of the rules prevented it
So I cut it down and sent it again

[nova flare]

I’m guessing aspect of artemis with the + 50% crit chance

[drowsy jackal]

||aspect of arty||
gotta love those crits

[elder bough]

Fair enough

Sounds like a wifi issue lol

[zenith torrent]

Ooo

Haven’t unlocked any aspects yet

[tulip moon]

I suppose it would be considered a buff, i think it mostly would only help in the overworld where there are firethrowers and oil on the ground. I mostly like the idea because it feels thematically appropriate is all.
Maybe a passive proc if you have like 3 water boons or something like that

[elder bough]

@cerulean stone things with letters are in development art

They aren’t going to all be rings, and boons with letters will get their own designs later too

[zenith torrent]

Yeah the first one i got was the luckier tooth and thought…that is definitely not a tooth but okay. Then the next was identical and i realized they were placeholders

[elder bough]

@steel peak you just didn’t notice it lol #h2-feedback message

[steel peak]

Hmm, I'm not sure if I should delte that or not but I guess I'll delete it.

I'm almost sure it wasn't there maybe I was bugged.

[elder bough]

@manic hill you regain magick while not using omegas just use one of your normals #h2-feedback message

[steel peak]

Like I went around to look to find out what the heck they were talking about so... no, I'm sure it wasn't there actually. 😂

When ||the cauldron option opened up and said there was a pitch black stone in the training ground that's potential I could unlock I went and looked around like "What?"||

[elder bough]

It’s not actually ever ||pitch black||

[ionic birch]

made it to ||cyclops|| and got whooped lmao

[placid sorrel]

anyone else got a bug when using Hexes, sometimes the character will be stuck and not move at all? can only use dash/sprint?

[drowsy jackal]

WAIT

actoually ||eats the projectile||?

as in - with an animation and everything

[short crystal]

Nope. It just hits him

[drowsy jackal]

i could swear i saw an animation of him going and eating it

maybe im just seeing things

[drowsy jackal]

man
i love

forg

it's so adorable and *goofy *

[eager wraith]

This idea is amazing though

[elfin swift]

Kinda curious how players generally feel about weapon balance? And number of boons

Im trying to figure out if the balance really is still a bit off or im just too used to hades 1 lol

[drowsy jackal]

ya know hwat?
im gonna put it in the hades 2 feedback

[steel peak]

@drowsy jackal I wish I could add more reactions to show Supergiant I think the frog idea is SO good

[eager wraith]

It's so funny for multiple reasons

[drowsy jackal]

damn
this doing numbers

[eager wraith]

Especially being that Hecate ||verbally doubts Frinos's ability to help directly before the first fight you bring Frinos along with|| xD

[steel peak]

I even immediately had to come here to tell you 😂

[drowsy jackal]

yeyeyeye

[worldly musk]

Just got to my first bath. Had to do a doubletake, that this is the same game loll

[drowsy jackal]

nah i actually find the balance to be pretty damn good already

like - it's way easier to make your build feel powerful even early on

[naive stump]

Amomus is getting nerfed for sure

[drowsy jackal]

haven't used the amugus aspect yet
gonna try it tomorrow or something

[elfin swift]

Probably a sign i should practice more then haha

Hmm really? Im still early on (only starting to constantly beat the 1st boss) and part of the struggle is i keep getting to the first boss with only 2-3 boons even when i focus in getting em 😭

I really cant remember if this is just part of hades 1 too or what

[drowsy jackal]

oh don't get me wrong - we're totally getting less straight up boons here
but they make more of a difference this time around

[naive stump]

We don't have dark foresight here so you def see way less

[elder bough]

@crystal forge #h2-feedback message everybody has a boon that pertains to these: attack, special, cast, dash/sprint, gain

they are called main boons

[honest folio]

Anybody knows how to post something in the feedback channel? I can’t send any messages there 😦

[crystal forge]

yeah, but they could still be more interesting, for example you dash, and this big wrecking ball appears and damage the enemy in front of you.

[elder bough]

go to #server-roles

[jolly sparrow]

is it just me or are the sirens way too OP for the first region

annoying ahh

[arctic monolith]

arent sirens second region? but you'll figure them out

[jolly sparrow]

by sirens i mean those things that scream in your face in the first region

[eager wraith]

Mhm I definitely felt and do feel this struggle, it is relieved better once you have more experience and can intuit what boons synergize with each other, but even still, the health pools overall are pretty large, and sometimes your own healthpool isn't large enough, so boss health might get lowered

[eager wraith]

Your cast is your best friend here, it's practically a direct counter since it stops or slows their movement (that and ofc sprinting )

[arctic monolith]

cast and they're stuck, charged cast and they're done

[jolly sparrow]

i see

[arctic monolith]

i call them screamers

[jolly sparrow]

i called them sirens because they reminded me of sirens from god of war 1 lol

in that desert area

[karmic sigil]

I've experienced this, but can't replicate it.

[eager wraith]

Oh, yeah it's something about Dark Side

Fun fact you are actually able to move, just extremely slowly

[solar fractal]

its bugged right now, so best not to pick it until a patch fixing it is out

[placid sorrel]

Happened to me with dark side and the one where you summon dead units

[eager wraith]

I've haven't ever taken that one yet, good to know

[muted swift]

Yeah, I think it happened when I had the boon that changes your character and I held attack while my character was going back to normal

I got so scared I will lose because of that (still lost but later lol)

[thick chasm]

Yes, also reported it at least once. Hopefully will be fixed soon.
Mine was in fight with ||Ceberus||, as you can imagine i lost

[placid sorrel]

had it there as well but i managed to survive by just sprinting the last bit of the fight when it happened

[thick chasm]

hm, i could only Dodge, no sprinting or walking

[paper barn]

whats the verdic of Appolo's double hit boon combing with the witch staff hammer modifier that makes all attacks hit twice?

[eager wraith]

Hmmm that's a good question.. Until we get an answer from someone with experience, my best guess is that I'd imagine it's likely that each of the two hits may have a separate chance to double, meaning 1 attack would end up being anywhere from 2-4 hits depending on luck (Although it would be surprising and interesting if instead it ends up being one singular chance event of either 2 or 4 hits)

[paper barn]

could also be a 3 hit i suppose, hit 1 for the base, hit 2 for the hammer and hit 3 with the chance

[naive stump]

If its the legendary is 4 times (for omega)

[eager wraith]

It would confuse me but is technically possible that only the first hit gets a chance to double since we don't know for sure how it's coded

[naive stump]

Oh wait me dumb, sorry

[paper barn]

yeah if its coded as "if success then apply 1 more hit" it would be that way right?

alternativly it could just whiff and be useless as it already applies a second strike

it could roll the first hit once and either apply 2 or 4 hits

it could roll both and apply an additional hit for both of the strikes etc etc

hence why i was curious about its interactions

[eager wraith]

my bet is personally on each hit having a seperate chance to double (i'll be looking to test this if the stars align for sure)

[paper barn]

i had the oppertunity but i was too busy learning the patterns of the enemies lol

[elder bough]

@cinder onyx Give up counting as a death would ruin a lot of people’s run record, just die by yourself.

[cinder onyx]

There shouldn't be an option to cheat your run record anyways

That just makes the record meaningless

[elder bough]

That’s not what it is this is only helpful for restarting in the first room or two

If I realize I forgot to switch keepsakes or aspects I want a do over. If I take the boon at the start, then go and fight and immediately realize oops wrong aspect, I don’t want a death.

[cinder onyx]

But you should get one anyways or the record is just meaningless

If I am about to die and just escape give up every time now I have a "perfect record" but it's fake

[elder bough]

Your record doesn’t impact anybody but you, if you WANT to do that go for it

I’d like to not have to die for forgetting an aspect

[naive stump]

Tbh that's kinda a "who cares*
H1 did the same, and streaks at low heat were easy to do

[kindred blade]

that is also a great way to slow down your progression. since you delete your rewards too.

[elder bough]

Yep

[cinder onyx]

Sure it's a singleplayer game so nothing wrong with cheating .But leaving it how it is for the sake of cheating is just sort of awk/clunky

I don't think average player would expect it to work the way it does

I don't think anyone expects to lose items collected

[elder bough]

If it gets changed it should only be optional, like “give up” vs “retry”

[cinder onyx]

And I don't think 99% of people care about obsessively curating their record

[elder bough]

It tells you exactly what it does

[elder bough]

This is an argument for the way it is too.

[kindred blade]

trying to have a perfect record like that is literally trying to do a fresh file clear. which is actually insanely hard.

[elder bough]

This

This too

I’d actually like to be able to try that too! Sounds fun for when I actually get good

You could also restart the file tho

[cinder onyx]

I don't have a problem with that as an option, weird as it seems to me, but it being the default is just weird

I guess that would just be like a pure roguelike option

[elder bough]

You already get your desired behavior if you sit still in the next room I don’t see a need to change anything

[cinder onyx]

Or I suppose you'd get progress if you win

[cinder onyx]

My desired behavior is the logical default, it's just weird to have this niche option in the main escape menu when something more intuitive is not available

[elder bough]

It is. Just sit still

If they do add two versions I think one should be called “return to shadow now” (the real escape option) and the other “retry” or something that directly implies you’re just gonna run it again as if it never happened

Matter of fact I’ll submit that in feedback

@drifting bronze #h2-feedback message you should enter the next room, wait for the save icon, then quit.

[drifting bronze]

ohhh it works that way? I didnt know

thank you!

[elder bough]

Yeah you can quit anytime before you get hit or view RNG-based outcomes

With a few RNG exceptions like Charon wells iirc

[desert anchor]

Alright guys let’s see if I can defeat the first boss with 9 health

We did not win but was a great effort

[topaz haven]

lol

[elder bough]

@void quartz f10 in-game reports bugs! The devs look there for bugs and feedback is more for explaining how the game feels to you right now :)

[void quartz]

oh, cheers for the heads up! i'll do just that

[cinder onyx]

Pretty much exactly the thought I had, except "Rewind" for the current option

[eager wraith]

Yep, saves on every room transition

[elder bough]

Yeah I didn’t give the second one much thought, rewind is good

[eager wraith]

#h2-feedback message @meager condor Late to reply to your feedback post but as a tip, do remember to Cast! Casts have a secondary benefit in that they deny your enemies area, slowing them down or even stopping them entirely depending on the how light or heavy they are. In the case of the wailers, if they're outside of a cast circle and try to get through they're stopped right there, and vice versa trying to get out. I'm gonna be sending a separate feedback post in now in hopes this'll be clearer to new players going forward

[elder bough]

more like primary benefit lol

[eager wraith]

I could see many players seeing its primary benefit as whatever effect boon it's given

[elder bough]

theyd be darned wrong, that's the benefit of a boon not the move it's on

[wraith copper]

a lot of people still arent used to using the cast as a zone control tool

[loud garden]

Where can you see how many hearts you have with characters?

[naive stump]

Locked behind incantation for whatever reason, is in the codex like usual (idk what unlocks it)

[loud garden]

How do you unlock the incantation?

[wraith copper]

progress through the story. someone will give you the incantation

[torpid berry]

then u need myrtle and f-fabric im p sure

[loud garden]

||does it require you to beat the final boss?||

[wraith copper]

no. dont think so

[torpid berry]

i have it and havent done that yet

[proper venture]

someone is getting trouble when closes hades II in steam?

mine says that it keeps running

[eager wraith]

#h2-feedback message I'm pretty sure Zeus's whole thing about this is built around Spirit Surge (having 10 magick or less hits every enemy for 60 every 5 seconds) since all his magick limit affecting boons take a hefty chunk out of your bar, I think his gain cuts it by like 70%

This is an interesting idea in concept, but, so far I just haven't been taking Spirit Surge or Ionic Gain because of it

[tribal pawn]

Man I can't for this game to fully drop

[torpid beacon]

You need to beat ||the first boss|| ||Hecate|| 3X

[tribal pawn]

I may not have the money to properly join in on the fun...

But at least I can watch!

[lofty vapor]

good in concept, bad in execution as it deletes 1/2 of your kit

12 dps is not enough to give up literally all your omega abilities

[paper barn]

quite a bit of the new moves take some getting used to. very satisfying when you actually do though

[lofty vapor]

i think that people on pc would benefit from binding cast to a side mouse button rather than on Q

[paper barn]

oh shoot

[wraith copper]

funny how this only really works with momus since you never use your magic

[lofty vapor]

taking your fingers off the movement keys is not enjoyable in a game like this

[paper barn]

thats a good idea

[lofty vapor]

the default binding for cast is bad, especially when 99% of mice have side buttons nowadays

unless you're gaming on those apple mac mice lol

[paper barn]

in all fairness it is probably a risk they arent willing to run

[manic heath]

Is there a default god pool limit? Is it four + Hermes like in hades 1?

[lofty vapor]

i guess but imo if you're buying indie games that get zero advertisement you're probably not the most casual gamer and thus have a mouse with a side button

[somber socket]

There are quite a few viable builds that don’t need omega abilities at all. I wouldn’t try to force them, but if you’re in that direction anyway the zeus boons can be nice additions at the end

[wraith copper]

seems to be 3 atm. but it might expand once we get more gods

[lofty vapor]

oh for sure but 12 dps is just bad period, and you need to heavily invest in zues to cap your mana enough to get the buff at all

12 dps is like 1/10 of an axe swing every second

it should do like 2-3x more damage than what it actually does

either that or reduce the rate from 5s to like 2.5s

[elder bough]

@random remnant #h2-feedback message it does

it opens in another tab and you need to move over

[random remnant]

Not for me :p im on a mac

[random remnant]

nope! I checked ^^

[elder bough]

maybe then idk, id assume it still works but i cant confirm. that's unfortunate :(

you should definitely mention you're on mac bruh lmao

and put that in tech support instead

[random remnant]

it just makes a computer death (not a game death) noise - the game isn’t out for mac/isn’t mac compatible, I have a workaround program (whisky) (its free do NOT pay for anything else) so I can use my windows content

I did mention it in tech support that I’m on mac and can’t report bugs, but that’s not really relevant because I’m not supposed to be able to play anyways on a mac lol

[elder bough]

oh you did :P

[random remnant]

I hate slow mode sorry for the paragraph 😟

[elder bough]

editing my beloved

[random remnant]

that’s so valid

[elder bough]

@wraith kernel #h2-feedback message boy, do i have the arcana for you

[clear niche]

I heard mac is horrible to work with so it makes sense

[uncut seal]

Ok so I hit the "report bug" button and all it did was freeze the game

[quaint crane]

Hello! So, does anybody know how to see boons list menu? I can't seem to find it

[drowsy jackal]

i think it's a cauldron upgrade?

haven't seen it yet either

[quaint crane]

that's what I'm inclined to believe. It sucks cause I sometimes forgot which gods do what.

[drowsy jackal]

i don't have that problem
im a simple man
i just pick hephaistos for the BONK

don't really need a codex for that

[hazy umbra]

It's a cauldron upgrade, yeah

[quaint crane]

aye cool(n't). Guess I'll just keep playing

[rose schooner]

one of the requirements to unlock the incantation to unlock the boon list is ||unlocking every boon god keepsake, or gifting every god that can give you a boon at least once(not sure if artemis counts).|| That might be the only requirement, not sure if theres others, though was the last requirement for me and probably most people, and the incantation also does require some mid-late game resources(||Poppy||, from ||growing poppy seeds from tartarus||, ||Ambrosia||, from ||buying with bones after unlocked the Taverna incantation||, and ||Golden Apple||, from ||beating Eris in the surface area 2||)

[quaint crane]

That is extremely helpful! Thanks.

[thick nexus]

hey everyone, I'm having trouble with the selene boon "Lunar Ray"- when i use it in boss fights sometimes it just doesn't fire at all, and sometimes it doesnt let me move at all with it

can it be interupted or something and i'm interupting it somehow? do i have to hold down the selene boon button (pc = f)?

[wraith copper]

it can get interrupted

you can also cancel it with a dash

[thick nexus]

rip i guess i've been interupting it

[thick nexus]

I have a question about the little animal in the game || the little cat- i fed the food to my frog in the camp but was wondering if i can make more of that food to give to the cat? ||

[frail basalt]

That’s possible, but you will need to unlock the alchemical formula to make more of it

[celest rain]

What do ya'll reckon the changes to the movement will be in the upcoming patch

i personally like the way it's right now, not being overly reliant on dashes like in H1

[drowsy jackal]

Yeah - it took some getting used to but now I think the dash + sprint combo feels fine and has more uses than just dashing from 1

But I’m guessing they’re gonna reduce the delay on windup

[thick nexus]

uh so...i beat chronos... ||and i didnt pick up one of the loot items...and it still let me "leave"....||

[drowsy jackal]

Lmao
Here - hold this L

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/638031423340806185/1239308728004771911/image.png?ex=6645bf71&is=66446df1&hm=1db51a6fe426a5fda32195d2cd7207509904b60b8c85dfa78f7b90261b575614&

[wraith copper]

Its just an interactable, not a loot

[drowsy jackal]

Oh you mean that thing
Yeah

Also - you might want to spoiler tag this

[thick nexus]

oh just an interactable? okay ;-;

[jolly sparrow]

why do i deal 0 damage in this game

every weapon just feels so weak

[frosty vapor]

need to build up your Grasp and unlock arcanas

[high moth]

hello, i hope this is not spoling, but where did the anubis-type doggo go? he vanished once i gave the first animal bonding thing to the frog but now i have a second and wanted to bond doggo too but i cannot find him?

[drowsy jackal]

Dunno
Haven’t seen him anywhere yet BUT
He’s on the cover of this new game informer issue
Official art
So I think it’s safe to assume he’s gonna come back

[dire stirrup]

|| I don't think we'll be able to bond with it, it's Hecate's familiar. She has a dog and a polecat. They dissappear after you build the hot spring, and Hecate has a line about how she sent them on a mission. We might get a different dog familiar later down the line though, since I think a lot of people were hoping we can have them ||

[random remnant]

It’s actually been really great so far

[wraith kernel]

Sorry what?
Let's take a look.

[elder bough]

Two down from top left

Not walk speed but sprint speed

[wraith kernel]

Oh yeah, I already use it. I myself am fine with the Sprint Speed, but I can see why others aren't. Thus a solution is suggested.

And like

[royal pumice]

great name

[wraith kernel]

I wouldn't be unhappy if they did.

[wraith kernel]

Yes. Nemesis <3

[little mesa]

how do i get the pet food ive been searching in the game for 60 hours now have not found a way to find the incantaion

[eager wraith]

Have you gotten the Fountain in Erebus incantation yet?

#h2-feedback message @graceful furnace There's an icon for fated list stuff during runs if that's what you mean

[dire stirrup]

You have to have the Erebus fountain room. And you also need to do 2 runs (does not have to be complete ones) with each gathering tool (and actually successfully use them at least once)

[eager wraith]

That second one I think is what people are getting stuck on (It's very arbitrary)

[little mesa]

Thank you yeah ive done everything i can in this game but the pets so ive been struggling to get them

[graceful furnace]

Kinda, but it doesn't show if I've completed all boons from Demeter for example. So when I decide what room to choose I'm like "Did I finish her mission or not?" Often I only have 1 boon left and it won't show up very often so I'd just think I've completed the mission already. Like Hestia has all but spontaneous combustion finished and Apollo is done, I would like to know that so that I go for Hestia instead of Apollo. Maybe be able to access the fate scroll during runs in general.

[eager wraith]

is that a problem ?

[elder bough]

You can try writing it down

[graceful furnace]

It is for me, I'll probably write down the list of missions I haven't completed by myself, would just be nice to have access to it without the manual work outside of the game.

[eager wraith]

I mean I wouldn't mind being able to forget-me-not prophecies for outside viewing theoretically

[naive stump]

Doesn't it specifically show the "prophecy fulfilled" when you are done with one (and less than ideal rn but the codex boon list also shows what you are missing)

[elder bough]

@grave wasp #h2-feedback message don’t you start your run by deciding which keepsake to take? Unless you’ve maxed them all I would assume you’re making a decision every time you head out

[worthy ocean]

Melinoe delivering Chronos' overdue parcel

[grave wasp]

I’m not at that point yet. The specific example I have hit multiple times now is I like Hephasteus when using the axe weapon. Once you use a god keepsake to boost a rarity, you can unequip and switch to another. So I typically buff a boon in Erebus, then switch to a different keepsake

If I make two runs with the axe in a row, it’s easy to forget.
I think a lot of players will have a favorite keepsake that they mostly like to use

[elder bough]

I kinda just start maxing all of them immediately

Rn I’m working on chaos cause it’s strong and not finished yet

[eager wraith]

Personally I think having the keepsake ever change outside of the player's direct input will make things more confusing

[elder bough]

Unless you hit give up I think it should stay whatever you have currently

[graceful furnace]

I don't have the codex boon list, I think? I can check when I get access to the fate scroll but inside the runs I have to manually keep track of what missions I have.

[eager wraith]

yeah it's unlocked fairly late currently

[naive stump]

I still think the boon list being gated that late is dumb

I think is a spoiler in this channel actually lmao

[graceful furnace]

Wouldn't keepsakes be even more of a spoiler? Boons are accessible from the get-go at least.

[naive stump]

The boon list requires all god keepsakes ||including hera, and the materials for it are from the 2nd surface boss iirc||

[graceful furnace]

What in gods name... I honestly don't like how quality of life stuff is locked but that's very much a design decision with Hades.

[elder bough]

Yep yep I agree

The keepsakes makes sense but not those materials, the materials should be marble and that chaos seed imo

[naive stump]

In H1 you needed only to see everyone except Dem and get a duo at least once
And it was 50 gems

[drowsy jackal]

those placeholder icons are an absolute goldmine for silly screenshots like this

im just waiting to get a boon list that spells ass

[karmic sigil]

Don't tell me if it's already in the game, but I'm just hoping that Darren cooks another collab with other unbelievable veterans of game music like he did with Extreme Measures Hades https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVsh2gp29CI

[drowsy jackal]

imagine if for hades 2 EM4 darren brings in mick gordon
or trent reznor
of frank klepacki

or andrew halshult ||i still don't know how to pronounce that last name ||

[elder bough]

@shadow hawk #h2-feedback message press B to see all that

[shadow hawk]

Good to know! "B" on keyboard or controller?

[elder bough]

Keyboard, but it’s just whatever your boon loadout button is

[shadow hawk]

Oh, yeah, I knew that. I think I just want to see those without having to do that so I can math my money and all that. Thank you for the help!

[royal pumice]

I want the lore on (Upstairs end of area 2) ||where Charon found this boat, did he just keep one in reserve, where????????|| I want to hear about his adventures, I think it'd make for a funnny story

[faint tundra]

So the Hound and The Polecat went on a scouting mission like 15-20 runs ago, as Odysseus told me. Are they supposed to come back? Am I doing something wrong?

Same thing goes for the ||cat you meet in the Erebus Fountain room||

[drowsy jackal]

||you can get the cat||
||just go up to the surface a few times and make sure you bring some snacks for it||

[faint tundra]

OK thank you, that's huge. I probably would've done more surface runs if there was a dialogue that suggested it.

[drowsy jackal]

[naive stump]

Is not there yet, also spoiler mark that
||We'll get it by 1.0 releases or when more of the surface route os added||

[rose comet]

So... Am I the only one having trouble with a very specific attack from the boss on the fourth zone? The enemy uses a huge spining attack that covers pretty much half of the battle stage and I have a hard time avoiding it. Any tips for that?

[velvet tide]

Hide behind the pillars… wait this is not hades 1… forget it…

[brisk stream]

Honestly my only strategy for that right now is building up my dodge 💀

[severe cosmos]

I have the same issue.. 40 runs in and I still haven't seen them since

[brisk stream]

I assumed they would reappear after having gotten access to the ||familiar treats you can use on frinos|| is that not the case ??

[wraith copper]

nope. you cant bond with hecate familiars anyway. those 2 are somewhat deep lore relevant

[brisk stream]

Interesting okayy

[lilac ether]

hades 2???

[royal pumice]

in 10 minutes

[haughty iris]

It’s funny that so many people think you can just steal Hecate’s familiars.

[winged hedge]

Oh W

[stiff hawk]

Do you ever feel like Odysseus isn't doing a great job with intelligence? It seems like every time I tell him about a new encounter he's just like "Ah, blast, our scouts knew something vague but not this specifically"

And so first of all, you completely failed to find out about the specific thing. But second of all, you knew vaguely about this thing? And you didn't think I'd need to know that?

I'm starting to understand why it took you so long to find your own home

[frail basalt]

I agree, his comments are witty but scarcely useful. He doesn't fill the snarky niche of H1's Hypnos commenting on the various causes of deaths either.

Though from what I understand, it may have been his idea to take the detour through ||Okeanus|| instead of taking the front door through Elysium, the details are foggy to me though.

[mystic maple]

you can try to go behind him, and there’s also a small gap directly in front of him but it’s pretty dangerous to go there

[lapis blade]

I've had some luck trying to time dash to avoid the initial damage arc and remaining relatively close ||for at least the first half of the health bar||. When those attacks start to get chained I haven't figured out a good strategy, though using the binding circle/cast helps. If the huge spinning attack you're talking about is the || spinning scythe attack that does 30+ damage || I have found that it is pretty well telegraphed with audio cues. I'm not sure if there are visual cues, but again a timed dash helps.

[faint tundra]

Yes.

[marble sundial]

Question about this || I did the familiar enchantment and used the snack on Frinos, how do I get more snacks for the cat? I find have more enchantments to do it ||

[drowsy jackal]

nah - you already have that unlocked
||just go to the cauldron, switch to alchemy and cook up some more treats for the cat||

[marble sundial]

No it doesn’t appear to me, I only can do || shadows in the alchemy part 😓 || maybe a bug?

[deep hinge]

have you unlocked the ||pitch black stone||? if not you might need to talk to chaos

[marble sundial]

Not sure what that is, so maybe that’s the problem haha. I’ll try talk to them then, thanks!

[deep hinge]

no problem! idk how long it takes to unlock but I guess just keep taking chaos gates when you see them and it'll eventually happen

[rose comet]

Yep, that was the attack I was talking about. The audio cues you mentioned about could be easy to get, but the problem is to dodge the attack itself. And, as the one before you said, it seems that staying close makes him less likely to use that or, at the very least, allows you to dodge it better...

[elder bough]

A death defy is not a full heal @mint cedar

Giving health back outside the game also just makes no sense

There are a lot of ways to encourage taking breaks but making the run easier if you set it down isn’t a good idea imo

[thick nexus]

Whats the public opinions/ thoughts on || yassified chaos ||

[unique rover]

I saw a tumblr post going in on ||their design|| and I liked that reading quite a lot, here are some points that stood out to me and made me view it in a different light -|| the long hair is a tribute to their lost children and their way to mourn, the earth getting downgraded to an earring, the suits were not invented in the time the game is set thus the chaos are defying chronos himself, and they don't have a body they are just a void in a vague shape of a person. Also I like dead head a lot, holding your own dead body is rad af||

[scenic tendon]

Answer: not a bug, ||you first only get 1x treat, but later you can craft more. I think it’s just doing more runs / unlocking the Pitch Black Stone as mentioned above for its reagents||

[lapis blade]

I gotta say the ||sax solo in Silent Shepherd|| goes hard as hell. Wasn't expecting a ||Clowncore style track/solo|| in this game.

[royal pumice]

(Area 3 event person) ||Echo's keepsake is scaring me, Zeus's boon where he reduces your magic is constantly there and if I were to take it I would be unable to use my omega attack (Artemis blades) || It was like playing a thriller for a sec

[manic heath]

is it just me or is the max magic reward not that useful?

[ashen remnant]

Yeah i never really take that one 😭

[naive stump]

the best use for more mana is ||Hera's gain boon, which pretty much gives quick infinite mana||
and each mana upgrade just makes it better

[fossil hound]

Can someone nudge me in the direction of finding this resource ||moss|| for an incantation without totally spoiling what to do?

[royal pumice]

How far in are you?

[fossil hound]

I’ve reached the fourth area but not beaten that boss. Approximately 30 runs

[royal pumice]

It's up the stairs in the training grounds

[fossil hound]

So have to go up again?

[royal pumice]

Yep, you can find it in the v first room when you enter a bit rng tho

[fossil hound]

Ok thanks!!! 🙏

Moonlight guide you 🌙

[royal pumice]

I sure need it still haven't killed the final boss

[fossil hound]

Me neither yet but we’ll get there!!

[royal pumice]

Oooo I have a yes or no question- (story spoilers, not post-killing final boss but a death event) ||Do you have to kill Chronos in order to "find the fates"?||

[sage kraken]

Can't do it yet.

[royal pumice]

ohhhhhh I wasn't anticipating that

[nova yew]

Sadgreus

[sage kraken]

[primal trench]

Not to mention the heroic version of this boon primes 1 mana

[honest hearth]

Even in Early Access, Hades 2 is better than many fully released modern games.

[nova yew]

true but to be fair that is a low bar to clear

[primal trench]

Yeah most "modern games" are expected to be trash due to the current gaming standards

[royal pumice]

I really hope you can unlock hearts with Hypnos whenever he wakes up

[nova yew]

||Its all a dream||

[unique rover]

Lmaoooo, just had this today. || Go up to a hestia boon, see "get rid of half your damage for 50 hp", think how funny of a choice that would be. Pick another boon, echo - "Power, power, power", and boom no more +100 damage to close enemies. This was on the third floor, next room was her. I like to imagine Mel busting in "Echo, Why'd you do that for!?!? I have hard time killing chronos as it is, even with all my skill. What's your issue?"
Echo - "skill issue... skill issue... skill issue" ||

[wintry bison]

For some reason I can't give a gift to ||echo|| no matter what. I have nectar in my inventory, have cleared the game multiple times, and have every other character's keepsake. Do they just not like me or is this a glitch?

[worldly pulsar]

Try gifting after you talk to her and grab her reward instead of before

[wintry bison]

🤔 ya know I don't think I've tried that. I'll do that. Thanks!

[elder bough]

@warped hatch report bugs with f10 in-game

#h2-feedback message

[warped hatch]

i thought thats not a bug?

[elder bough]

You formatted the feedback post as if it were a bug

[warped hatch]

idk, i always do that when giving feedback/bug report

[elder bough]

Fair enough

I’m sure people appreciate it when reading it

[torpid vessel]

oh my god i cannot WAIT to see what they do for Extreme Measures in this game

most anticipated feature honestly, especially with there being twice as many bosses this time around

[tawny oxide]

The second boss the most for me, I am absolutely excited for all the amazing things they could do in an extreme measures there

[upper valley]

yeah that'd be interesting how they would bring it back

[naive stump]

Extreme measures final boss is gonna be fun

[torpid vessel]

harder attacks and make two of them gain the Featured Artist buff i bet

or maybe all 3

[tawny oxide]

I'm hoping they ||have an Extreme Measures exclusive song||

[torpid vessel]

just realized this is the no spoiler chat :P

[primal trench]

Yes

[upper valley]

but also those i wonder how those erebus gates would work from the first game here snice we are already there

[naive stump]

Can still be a different part of erebus right, the camp is at the edges of it

[upper valley]

or maybe they will do something different this time, still im hyped for it

[sage kraken]

||I mean we already have the Asphodel "gates" which are kind of similar ig||

[primal trench]

That's just ||chronos|| being silly

[naive stump]

@half forge #h2-feedback message nah give up did the same in 1, quit is the one that keeps the run progress

That's why give up is "pretend this night never happened"

[nova yew]

their is also the 3 option to reset the run

[torpid vessel]

those are more similar to the "survive" chambers in Hades 1

[lilac cairn]

I just bought the EA and played it and it's too good and I think now I have to wait because it's going to be my favorite game. I found my Hades 1 skills transferred but the mechanics are still confusing because I have Zagbrain. edit: jk going to play again now

[jolly salmon]

Could someone tell me how to get ||Entropy?|| Is it even in the game yet? I've seen people talk about ||a final act and I don't know how to progress to get it.|| I've beaten ||Chronos|| multiple times and I still don't see a clear way to progress, if I even can

[primal trench]

||not available yet||

[thick nexus]

in consideration to Eris: ||can we make something out of the rubbish she throws on the ground? I've only seen on receipe so far||

[primal trench]

There's just that one incantation afaik

[drowsy jackal]

I just find the idea of|| Eris - strife incarnate||- throwing freaking snickers wrappers everywhere really entertaining

Where did she get those in Ancient Greece anyway ?

[sacred spruce]

hello everyone! i have a quick question. so the story of the game starts without kind of any setup and we're just thrown into it. my question is: does that intented to be that way and we're supposed learn more as we go through the story or is it that way because the game is in early access?

[primal trench]

Yes, intended, same way as hades 1

Both games start in a run

[sacred spruce]

okay that's all i needed thank you!

[sacred spruce]

yeah it's been a long time since i played the first game so i don't really remember

[drowsy jackal]

Oh every SGG Game starts this way
You just click new game and BAM - you’re in

I like that

[primal trench]

Yeah both start the same way, their first attempt

[tepid schooner]

Yeah, the story will just unfold as you keep playing, don't worry about it

[sacred spruce]

i see i can enjoy the story then

i was worried it that it maybe not finished because of early access and all

[sage kraken]

The ending isn't finished

[primal trench]

It is not finished, that is correct, but the beginning likely won't change

[sacred spruce]

so they will keep adding new chapters i assume

[primal trench]

That is the plan

[sacred spruce]

noice

[tepid schooner]

Yeah, something like that

Also I think the story feels better if you have played the first Hades, because there are lots of story ties to it, but of course it's not a must, as developers themselves stated

[primal trench]

Seeing familiar faces def brought a smile to my face

[tepid schooner]

Yeah exactly, and also I really loved the way ||Artemis|| has grown since the events of Hades

[sacred spruce]

o yeah i have played the first game

[primal trench]

It is not complete, but there's A LOT already

[sacred spruce]

yeah i was suprised

apparently even in its early access, it's bigger than the whole of the first game

[primal trench]

From what I've seen, yes, is bigger

[sage kraken]

Yeah it's bigger

[thick nexus]

omg....concerning the last boss: ||i paused at the last phase bc i was so close to death and so was he and my cat jumped in front of my screen and....there's an interaction there....||

[scenic echo]

I also had the exact same incident happen to me

[elder bough]

@hollow blade #h2-feedback message split your feedback, supergiant will not be able to tell which of your two completely separate pieces of feedback people are agreeing with

[hollow blade]

Oh ok, will do ty

[elder bough]

@winged swan that would have been so incredibly awesome I wish they’d done that as well

[winged swan]

ik if they do end up adding more aspects i dont see any better for the axe than his

[elder bough]

For real

The final hit of attack could launch you forward at an enemy and then do that triple projectile thing

[drowsy jackal]

It’s ||Toula Thursday||
Time to switch my familiar

And tomorrows ||Frinos Friday||

[umbral aspen]

Ha concerning the black stone I managed to ||find my way into Chaos's area via a shop reward and this is what Chaos has to say about it: "The Trials I devised all begin precisely as planned; but from that point, not even I can influence the outcomes entirely. For instance, I did not expect to find you here, Spawn of Hades||

[stiff hawk]

i never expect to have melinoe speak in deep voice

[olive halo]

Her voice isn't that deep

[naive stump]

There's a ||circe item which makes you grow in size, making her voice deeper||

[olive halo]

That's fun

I knew she could make it higher pitched but not lower pitched

[elder bough]

@dusky dock #h2-feedback message use your normal attacks and you will still regen magick.

If you’re skipping normal attacks even when you run out of magick I think you’ve missed the point of the system somewhat

[faint tundra]

So there's a dialogue I just had where Melinoe asks Hecate about what she can do to give resources back to 'Mother Gaia'. Is she a character that's mentioned more down the line or is meetable?

[primal trench]

no, mother gaia is basically mother earth, just flavor for now, maybe in the future this changes

[faint tundra]

I do love flavor. The idea of meeting Gaia on the ||surface runs|| would be really cool. I'm pretty sure she's a titan in traditional Greek mythology, so I'd love to hear about her thoughts on Chronos.

[primal trench]

||surface is incomplete|| so perhaps in a future update it happens

[hollow lantern]

Not gunna lie...the surface is way easier than the underworld imo XD

[neon tiger]

Yay. Finally beat ||Scylla|| and got into ||Tartarus||? Whatever the ||underworld|| realm is. Definitely feel like I'm now getting the hang of combat and the game. Beat ||Scylla|| twice now. God mode damage resistance at 50%.

No idea if this is a bug but my keepsake from both Poseidon and Demeter is marked N.

[primal trench]

Yeah, that's for everyone, that's placeholder anyway so don't put much thought into it

[elder ledge]

My problem with the game is that it's too good, I played for 9 hours straight and my day faded away

[primal trench]

SGG do be doing that, they got me playing hades 1 now

[dusky dock]

With the flames you do not regen magic if you click your attacks too fast or hold the attack button even when conditions for the regen are met. With the flames specifically you need to time your button presess just slow enough for the game to register it as not continuous (so not contributing to the charge timing) for you to regen your magic. That same timing though gives enemies window of opportunity to attack you between this because its not stunlocking them anymore.

[misty helm]

quick question, I cant seem to see how many hearts I have with characters, what do about that

[desert laurel]

you'll get an incantation

[misty helm]

ah okay thank you

[queen thistle]

Ah, how difficult it is to hold out until early access ends

[desert laurel]

hold what out

[queen thistle]

Hold out buying it

[proper isle]

the game is going to change somewhat during EA, and it's nice to be able to give feedback that will be listened to about how things will change. they've already tweaked a fair bit

[desert laurel]

gonna be at least till next year, theres gonna be a major update prior, prob end of this year, but Ill would cop rn

[proper isle]

it also runs beautifully on the steam deck just saying

[desert laurel]

its great in EA, they def could of wrapped it up and called it a day

[queen thistle]

I understand both your points, but I seek the ultimate experience

And also lack cash for a while lol

[desert laurel]

theres more content than hades 1

[proper isle]

that's a better reason to wait imo

but even as is it's a huge improvement over the first game, it's honestly completely insane

probably gonna be my game of the decade the way things are going

[austere zephyr]

if you really want to dodge the temptation, then you shouldn't be in the hades 2 channels

you're not making it easier for yourself, hahah

[queen thistle]

I'll be where I please

[worthy ocean]

W patch

[desert laurel]

if ur a hades fan u buy day 1, then replay new updates

[lapis blade]

I loved the first game, and I am very much excited to see how the game changes and develops over time, as well as what content is added, what placeholders will end up looking like, etc. For me, it's the part of watching something grow. It's very exciting.

And even better, it's a fantastic game even right now and one can sink a ton of time into it.

[queen thistle]

Meh, buying before anyone knows if its good just because of publisher reputation never goes well

[proper isle]

zz, just another troll then, nvm

[queen thistle]

Am I wrong?

Many, many times have people day one purchased or pre ordered a game and been screwed over. Yes, hades 2 is good, but it's still bad practice to blindly buy without prior knowledge

[lapis blade]

I think it's perfectly reasonable to not buy a game on dev reputation alone. See Cities Skylines 2 of recent note.

[proper isle]

there was an extended gameplay stream but ok

[lapis blade]

However, I don't regret purchasing Hades 2 early access based on everything available to me. Already sunk 30+ hours into it and looking forward to what is added.

[austere zephyr]

Yeah, but those other games are not made by SuperGiant, a company that has never missed and is privately owned. No shareholders to please

[queen thistle]

The same arguments made about the cyberpunk launch lmao

[austere zephyr]

nope, cyberpunk is not privately owned

[queen thistle]

I'm just saying, money is a thing nit to throw away

[lapis blade]

I think there's enough information out there right now that you can make your own decision on whether or not Early Access for Hades 2 is worth it.

[austere zephyr]

No, you're just arguing for arguing's sake

[proper isle]

toldja, troll

[queen thistle]

If saying that buying a product that you aren't assured about the quality of just because the makers have done good in the past is arguing, then certainly. But I think you're missing the point.

I acknowledge that Hades 2 is a great game, but I still wouldn't have pre-ordered it or gotten it day one, on the principal of not wanting to be blindsided by a regrettable purchase

There's nothing troll-ish about that.

[proper isle]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-jennifer-lawrence-the-mocking-jay-the-hunger-games-katniss-gif-5415223

[lapis blade]

That is an acceptable view to hold.

[queen thistle]

I've been in this server for 3 years why would I begin to troll now 😭

Getting called troll by a mf who joined last week

[proper isle]

ah, I didn't realize you were a local dignitary. my apologies, your high lordship, for stepping on your toes. smh.

[queen thistle]

You should be >:]

[proper isle]

I didn't realize only newer members could exhibit trollish tendencies. How could I have been so blind 😦

[zenith torrent]

I think it’s perfectly acceptable to wait. Although with all the info now, Nfsjunkie is right. If you wanted, you could buy it and be assured it’s good. But i also understand saving money

[queen thistle]

Yeah duh, but I'm talking about day 1 purchases and preorders in particular

Now I know its good there's no issue

[zenith torrent]

But some ppl won’t be disappointed regardless

And they know they won’t be so they go ahead and preorder

[heavy drum]

[spoiler about the game here]

[queen thistle]

Guards, remove this woman

[zenith torrent]

There’s a story discussion channel for spoilers

Unless that was a taunt, then never mind

[half panther]

mods, kill this person with hammers

[drowsy jackal]

bastion hammer, preferably

[remote pasture]

I’m always watching.

[drowsy jackal]

[willow owl]

real

[elder bough]

Damn that is pretty bad ngl

[unique rover]

I'm not getting any new || chaos trials || after the initial three, are there any and how do I get them?

[royal pumice]

"Driftwood is now more common in [spoiler]" omg my prayers hav been answered Nemesis we're going on a date

[vestal frost]

||unlocking weapon aspects||

[unique rover]

I || unlocked everything || i think, but ok I just have to get some more runs for it to trigger maybe. Thanks!

[vestal frost]

That might not be it tbh. Just what worked for me.

[unique rover]

I appreciate the answer nonetheless

[vagrant finch]

Keepsakes might be part of it too

[unique rover]

Oooh, fair, I'm still missing one, need to figure out whose

[kindred blade]

unlocking ||familiars|| too

[unique rover]

Ah, that I||even have no incantation for|| yet, must be it! Thanks!

Also nice spoiler save

[kindred blade]

i don’t know if it actually is beyond zone one feature, i didn’t unlock them until so late because i had an allergy to one gathering tool. make sure to bring each gathering tool to hecate or something.

[unique rover]

Oooooh, I've never even touched the ||tablet thingy||

Can't wait to play with the new patch so I don't have the fomo on resources lol

[pulsar blade]

hey does anyone know if there is a cap on grasp?

[drowsy jackal]

well im at 29 and all the game needed from me was the green blob
psyche or whatever

[naive stump]

30

[drowsy jackal]

but then for 30 requirements jump up really hard and you need some extra stuff to get that last point

is that 1 point really worth it though?

[unique rover]

Was wondering, has anyone gone beyond ||1000 hp to survive chronos "stay in a small circle" attack||? I think it must be possible with ||aphrodite and Poseidon and lots of luck, but I'm not sure||

[drowsy jackal]

well - im not sure it's even possible

i rarely got hit by it, but i got hit once a while back
and i think this thing eats up all your health AND spare DDs

i might be wrong though

[orchid walrus]

You are, yeah

Just health, you can still DD through

[drowsy jackal]

neat
thanks

[molten quiver]

my best health so far has bern 461

[drowsy jackal]

well i got over 1k at one point ||but it was with a chaos trial so it probably doesn't count ||

[turbid comet]

Aw yiss, patch day

[drowsy jackal]

there was also this one dude over at tech support channel that got like 10k or something

oh wait i just looked it up - it was a chaos trial too

anyways - enough screwing around
gotta give this new update a shot

[elder bough]

@swift mason #h2-feedback message this is just par for the course it will happen sometimes. It’s random.

[warm saddle]

Who do you guys think other bosses on surface will be?

[drowsy jackal]

well - seeing how there's this ||one recurring character that has a weapon from the first game that you eventually end up fighting...||

||...my money's on that other recurring character that wields a weapon from the first game||

[lilac sundial]

#announcements congrats. She looks so tough in that pic but seems so different in game, in a good way

[swift mason]

true, but a keepsake REALLY shouldn't have a potential negative effect on your run

[elder bough]

More like boons shouldn’t

@onyx yew legendary was never a rarity you upgrade to in hades 1

It’s a type of boon in itself like duos and infusions

[swift mason]

yes but you have stuff like Hestia's hearth gain which is really good but still has a downside

[elder bough]

Zeus ionic gain just needs a tweak tbh

[swift mason]

agreed

I think bringing it down to 50% instead of 70% would make it more tolerable

although I'm not a game designer so maybe that's too much or too little lol

[onyx yew]

ahh is that on in hades 2?

[elder bough]

No

[vivid flare]

Legendaries are still their own thing in this game, too. The highest tier a regular boon can get is Heroic

[elder bough]

Yeah I don’t for sure know what Nick was asking

@merry haven #h2-feedback message I believe this was addressed in the patch notes

[chrome wave]

What is the point at which I can feel safe to go into the spoiler rooms? I've been avoiding them completely, but I think I'm basically at the end of the early access at least. I've ||reached the end of both of the paths once or twice, unlocked the boon codex, got all the weapons up until the Skull||. Is that enough?

[arctic monolith]

feel like zeus's "mana regen" boon isnt really there to regen mana, its just there to ruin your mana bar for that one "if you have 10 or less mp, zap everything every 5 seconds" boon

[primal trench]

Whenever you think you're done with the story or care about it

[chrome wave]

Well I'm not sure whether I'm actually done lmao.

[primal trench]

Is a fragile topic, like I can't talk about it either cause idk if you're done or not

[naive stump]

You'll probably see a niche convo
There isn't much main story

[elder bough]

#h2-feedback message

@stiff hawk 32 was never a steam achievement in 1 they may not make it one in 2 either

[primal trench]

Yeah they probably wont make it here either

[stiff hawk]

o yeah it wasnt, tbh ill still be bothered seeing the statue covered 😭

[bitter marlin]

SO EXCITED TO PLAY! Ive heard nothing but great things about this game, I never played the first Hades though, hope thats not too much of a problem story wise

[elder bough]

Nah ur fine I think

@cloud anvil #h2-feedback message report bugs with F10

[cloud anvil]

Thank U

[elder bough]

@shell glen #h2-feedback message did you mean Poseidon’s boons?

@hasty wave #h2-feedback message this will not make it competitive with Poseidon’s equal damage, higher pom scaling, area damage, and knockback unfortunately

It needs a more involved change

[hasty wave]

Well, it would at least get it closer to balanced

[elder bough]

Your change would work well if the default damage also moved to like 22 to 25

To make it strictly better for dps than Poseidon

[shell glen]

Poseidon's boons are also really good for this, both in the first game and the second, but I'm thinking field-wide moves, ex. pulling everybody into/towards your cast. Strong enough so you couldn't use it all the time, but still doing something you can't do elsewhere.

[elder bough]

I’m saying did you mean Poseidon cause Athena never focused at all on moving enemies around

[chrome adder]

imho hestia should have scorch and a percentage boost on attack and special, albiet a low one

[shell glen]

Oh no, I'm talking about the boons from Athena that would increase trap/terrain damage on your enemies and decrease it for you!

[elder bough]

I like two flat damage main boons, flat damage is an interesting mechanic when there is so much % damage, I just think there needs to be nuance

[naive stump]

Athena didn't increase trap dmg, that was a charon well item

[elder bough]

Yeah she just had sure footing

[shell glen]

Oh, I'm misremembering, then.

[naive stump]

Reduced trap dmg just plays into her defense stuff

[elder bough]

Nuance like this one is good for crowd control and this one is for bosses. Idk

[chrome wave]

annoying question but is there an equivalent shortcut for steam deck

[elder bough]

I don’t know :)

Hopefully

[naive stump]

You can report in #h2-tech-support if on steam deck iirc

[chrome wave]

true but I assume that's way less useful. I guess I'll see if I can bind something

[eager wraith]

You will be able to figure most things out through context clues I guess
Although honestly, I would still highly recommend Hades 1! If you have both, or can have both, I'd start with the first one. It's a pretty rock-solid game, still having value for its differences in gameplay style to its successor, and I personally enjoy seeing stories unfold in sequential order. (In addition to the fact that Hades 2 is not yet complete, so, the story of Hades 1 being experiencable start to finish imo I see as a huge plus to someone new to the series )

[high flint]

hades 1 is a masterpiece honestly

[elder bough]

Hades 1 is the best roguelike

Winning pretty handily imo

[high flint]

it was so good that they made a sequel

[eager wraith]

I wouldn't say starting with Hades 2 does a disservice to it... but it doesn't do a service to it
These are games known for their narrative and gameplay being cohesive, and half of that is the narrative, so, halfing the narrative is still very cohesive but you have less narrative (am i making any sense at all? lol)

It's like, you miss out on those sequel moments

||Chaos Trials? Those are past Erebus, be sure to spoiler mark them here||

[honest hearth]

My thumbs and eyes are bad!

[shell glen]

Having to choose between the sprint, the slowdown, and the health regen per room to get those duo boons... it crushes me.

[eager wraith]

All good (Past Erebus Content): ||Unless the keepsake is specified in the trial description with its icon, you can choose your own before entering ||

[eager wraith]

Personally I think overall the slowdown has been the most integral to me, I would sacrifice the rest to keep it

[chrome adder]

specially cause the sprint card is how we get the h1 dash

[shell glen]

ever since they patched the sprint to have a delay... the sprint card is mandatory for me. But i am not good at video games, and the hp per room is so nice....

[drowsy ice]

codex doesn't show boon lists?? is this real

[naive stump]

Is an upgrade, unlock all god keepsakes

[drowsy ice]

aight

[eager wraith]

The dash delay is something you can learn to adjust for, but there's no such thing with the slowdown benefit (spacing helps, but enemies will still try to close in on you at 100% speed). Hp per room is nice indeed, it's a hard loss, but I'd lose more Hp if I didn't have the slowdown than I'd gain with the hp on room exit

[naive stump]

||the materials are a bit expensive tho, requires the 2nd surface boss drop||

[eager wraith]

Many people have been requesting it cheapened

[naive stump]

Is certainly some fun materials
Especially the more is compared to 1's lmao

[drowsy ice]

also how do you get fate fabric

[naive stump]

Broker/1 arachne's dress/charon's vip card

[drowsy ice]

thanks

[naive stump]

There are some prophecies that give it too iirc

[shell glen]

Very true on the hp/slowdown thing. The dash delay is really a matter of playstyle, and I love being zippy too much to give it up.

[eager wraith]

I didn't mind the delay when I played pre-patch, but honestly I get it, zipping can be fun

Still adjusting to the new speed personally, and it can bug sprint boons slightly so I hope that gets hotfixed quick

#h2-feedback message @whole wyvern You'll get an upgrade for that dw

[whole wyvern]

heck yeah

[elder bough]

You should delete the feedback now :) cause you didn’t know it already exists and it’s a reply anyway

[whole wyvern]

how do i do that?

[elder bough]

Wait nah cosmic is talking about just the codex having boons

You don’t get to see them during boon selection unfortunately but yeah hope it gets patched

[whole wyvern]

gree

[eager wraith]

nah I meant the codex having hearts

i see the confusion, there are 2 posts in feedback

[primal trench]

||Narcissus|| can also give fabric

[elder bough]

Ohh yep

@timid elk mind linking the post about IIII vs IV?

[eager wraith]

Oo interesting, this isn't mentioned in the book
Will post to feedback

[primal trench]

What book

[timid elk]

#h2-tech-support message

[primal trench]

Oh yeha the IIII was pretty common

[eager wraith]

codex

[royal pumice]

You have to map it to an unused button yourself, in the settings menu, some people have mentioned not being able to type in the box, so if you mention that you're using a steam deck in #h2-tech-support, you can report there

oh ooops I completely missed the end of that convo my b

[elder bough]

Wait was this real #h2-feedback message

[primal trench]

Never happened to me

[naive stump]

Same

[gloomy skiff]

how do I use my omega power things without getting hit while I am channeling?

[elder bough]

Arcana 1

@plush oar #h2-feedback message can you explain this further?

I’ve found Poseidon to just be the best all around including v bosses

Also reacting to your own comment is

[primal trench]

I have gotten used to play without it because of some reasons but like someone else said, the very first arcana card you can unlock slows down time while channeling omega moves

[sand thicket]

What floors do boss fights happen on? o.o'

would it be like, 15, 30 so on or?

[primal trench]

I've noticed it's inconsistent in this game, especially after the ||fields||

[sand thicket]

does it change between runs?

[eager wraith]

No it doesn't, just between locations

[honest hearth]

This, Hades, and Baldur’s Gate 3 are my favorite games of all time.

[sand thicket]

I'm just trying to figure out if I have to get health now or if I'll have another chance x.x

[fluid tendon]

i know where i am in the run by keeping track of shops that i run into

[eager wraith]

In Erebus, location 11 means you're about to see the Charon shop before the boss room, and similarly 22 means the same in ||Oceanus||

[primal trench]

Get it now, how do you know you'll have another chance

[fluid tendon]

if you run into 2 shops u know the second one is the end of the stage

[timid elk]

hey so I've seen people say that the gameplay is lacking the 'witchy' feel - anyone with recommendations for games in the witch genre to check out?

[eager wraith]

You won't necessarily run into the first shop though

[primal trench]

First mid shop is not guaranteed

[elder bough]

It’s always been inconsistent in hades 1 too

[sand thicket]

But I'm on Location 23? I have a Choice of Charon and ||Moon||
I suppose I go to Charon for health now then?

[fluid tendon]

i feel like i always get 2 shops maybe im just lucky

[primal trench]

Not really, there's was only one way to break it in hades 1

[primal trench]

High chance? Yes, but not guaranteed

[elder bough]

Thought it was randomized?? Maybe I am clueless

[eager wraith]

You've taken ||Chaos|| before boss rooms twice I think, which has pushed back the number, good job! /gen Yes, you'd be just before boss room now 99% sure

[fluid tendon]

one other way to tell is the last chamber will always be a shop and either a hermes health or magick i think

[primal trench]

Bosses in hades one always happened in the exact chamber number, except if you entered a chaos room right before a boss shop

[elder bough]

Neat

[primal trench]

Also wrong, second reward can be anything major

[elder bough]

Wait chaos counts as a room towards total till boss??

[eager wraith]

Yes