h2-discussion

[torn wind]

And honestly it’s why I like the boss designs in a lot of this game

Especially on rivals

The rivals fights force diverse knowledge of game mechanics and adaptability. And some bosses are practically scripted and just require you to know it front-to-back so you can no-hit wantler

[prisma monolith]

Me when the summit was added:
I hope they make it so instead of zeus you get a random olympian each run for more cool and rng.
Rivals: no more zeus 🥀

[magic valve]

Will I need a new save to see any of the new content stuff

[nova oar]

No

[blissful fog]

bruh i just died at prometheus again

i didnt even get him halfway 😭

[hazy parrot]

sheeesh insane. gg man

[torn wind]

If only I could do it consistently

Only happened cause I had an insane build

[blissful fog]

if only i could beat prometheus for once 😭

[torn wind]

If you see the clip

[blissful fog]

i literally need a feather to unlock the last arcana card

[torn wind]

Spoilers obviously cause rivals fight

[buoyant matrix]

https://youtu.be/iDfSTMw9qsI
watch this if you need help

[blissful fog]

bro this guy is melting that hp 😭

i do maybe a quarter of that damage

[buoyant matrix]

seems to be a build issue then, what weapon and boon are you running

[blissful fog]

black coat aspect of nyx with poseidon and zeus boons

[nova oar]

What arcana are you using then

[buoyant matrix]

probably unseen excellence

[blissful fog]

i'll check

oh wait i cant send images here

Uh do i dm it to someone or smth?

[blissful fog]

oh bet

[blissful fog]

heres what i got rn https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/ArcanaDeck/?deck=WyJjMSIsImMyIiwiYzMiLCJjNSIsImM2IiwiYzciLCJjOCIsImMxMCIsImMxMSIsImMxMyIsImMxNCIsImMxOCIsImMxOSIsImMyMyIsImMyNCJd

[nova oar]

Get rid of excellence right now

Put on boatman

And if you're struggling, swap death for strength

And why are you ignoring rerolls without jpom

[blissful fog]

idk bro 😭

[nova oar]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/ArcanaDeck/?deck=WyJjMiIsImM1IiwiYzYiLCJjNyIsImMxMSIsImMxMiIsImMxMyIsImMxNCIsImMxNSIsImMxNiIsImMxNyIsImMyMSIsImMyMiIsImMyNCJd

[blissful fog]

i used this

i had to death defy on the hecate fight 😭

[nova oar]

That's just a skill issue

[blissful fog]

ok rude

[nova oar]

That's the meta non jpom arcana

[blissful fog]

i dont have every arcana upgraded yet

so maybe its because of that

[royal cradle]

Erebus is actually really tough is you get it as a 4th Region!

[blissful fog]

4th region?

isnt it the first region?

[broken creek]

theyre talking about post game stuff

[royal cradle]

Yes it is the first region

[prisma monolith]

They're not there yet

[royal cradle]

My bad

[blissful fog]

oh

[thorn spear]

I think it time for hades 3

https://tenor.com/view/amirite-hadesdisney-hades-gif-5584633

[prisma monolith]

Honestly I think is time to move on

Do something else supergiant

[torn wind]

Yeah like let supergiant cook up a new IP

Hades is amazing but we also got Hades after something else that was great

[honest solar]

did the patch 2 change anything with the story like curing arachne or smthn

[prisma monolith]

Change per se

[thorn spear]

bro has hopes as high as icarus when he was alive

[prisma monolith]

No

They added few lines here and there but everything is more or less the same as before

[desert verge]

Hey guys

where can i ask question about erm

not translation errors

but when lines of text stuck together

and one covers another

[blissful fog]

should be in #h2-tech-fixes maybe

oh wait wrong one

i meant #h2-tech-support

[desert verge]

yeah is it tech?

i was not sure

thank you anyway i'll try that channel

[blissful fog]

np

[wise wave]

Does plasma still affect move speed?

My computer broken a month ago. Just ask to prepare for the update

[desert verge]

btw is Polyphemus is also Poseidon's son in Hades? does anyone mention it?

[desert verge]

my book says yes - ms and as bonus

[prisma monolith]

No, they joke around it

[desert verge]

Who - they?

[prisma monolith]

Poseidon

[desert verge]

so it's like "Zagreus is Dionis" thing?

[prisma monolith]

Yes

If i recall correctly poseidon told him he was his son or something as a joke, but he isnt

[desert verge]

well i guess it better for the story

[prisma monolith]

Yeah

[desert verge]

not that family bonds prevents fights anyway

[prisma monolith]

Indeed

[desert verge]

btw does anyone said that death sound of prometheus makes his words unrecognisable?

[calm sorrel]

I just got a heroic sea star what

[elfin heron]

wasn't Theseus Poseidon's son? in the myths

the game kinda references that, but as a joke

[desert verge]

he has 2 dads

[calm sorrel]

I didn’t know you could get heroic boons without a rarify or a sack

[blissful fog]

lucky

[desert verge]

Also Pegas is also son of Poseidon and Medusa Gorgona

okay pls explain me how does Ares thing works? when i hit someone with boon he get cursed and curse explode after few sec? and every hit before explosion increase damage?

[buoyant matrix]

yeah it's a patch 2 bug, we don't know what causes it yet

happens if you get sea star offered on your first poseidon boon of the run

[prisma monolith]

Your first hit does extra dmg, and applies wound. At base wound is simply the cooldown before it does extra dmg again

[calm sorrel]

Fun tho, I get to hear all the new posidon lines lol

[desert verge]

so it is better to have it with lower attack spped weapon and there is no point to attack while it wounded?

[calm sorrel]

||“How many is that?!?”||

[prisma monolith]

Without any other boons, yeah wound does nothing

[desert verge]

thanks, translation sometimes can be deceiving

or me dumb ww main

[astral olive]

why can't I change raki's appearance unlike other familiars?

[calm sorrel]

Have you maxed him out?

[nova oar]

You need to max upgrade

[hazy glacier]

Why does my game look all streched when i put in fullscreen now and if i dont it looks normal but i cant see my healthbar

[deft pond]

Not used to these smaller AA indie projects. Looking forward to giving this one a try 🙂

[astral olive]

yes

[desert verge]

calling Hades little indie projects sounds wrong

[blissful fog]

how do u even get ares boons?

[prisma monolith]

Its still an indie company

[blissful fog]

i've never seen one in any of my runs

[prisma monolith]

Meet the surface final boss

[blissful fog]

oh

DAMN ITTTTTT

[nova oar]

Lmaooo

[desert verge]

techically we can call something like Baldurs gate 3 indie game

[prisma monolith]

Youre not new are you? I do remember you from months ago, youve played the game

[blissful fog]

ok i have 1 nightmare

whats the best weapon to upgrade?

[prisma monolith]

Isnt larian studios like 500 people?

[blissful fog]

or should i save up for aspect of nyx level 5?

[last cloak]

they've been here since sept 2025

[nova oar]

Whatever you find most fun

[blissful fog]

ykw, i might as well just try aspect of thanatos

[prisma monolith]

Supergiant is like 20-30 iirc def indi÷

[desert verge]

yeah but they are still independent studio without publishers and investors

[prisma monolith]

Yeah I know but I remember them specifically talking about the game so it feels weird seem them no saying "looking forward to it"

[desert verge]

so TECHICALLY it is indie

[prisma monolith]

Exactly, so hades is def indie

[desert verge]

surething but i would still not call it small

[prisma monolith]

Idk, 20 employes is pretty small

Or is it 30, idk, still small

[desert verge]

or i just got used to lot of unplayable "stuff" made by 1 guy

[prisma monolith]

It be like that

[civic magnet]

will hades 2 have a ps5 physical copy? (and it will be release in Brazil since switch 2 physical copy was released)

[nova oar]

Probably not

[civic magnet]

seriously? weird since the first one had a ps5 physical copy

[nova oar]

The age of physical media is over

[feral reef]

More than likely, physical media still generates money but it will take time to ship to every country

[violet rampart]

found someting strange in the prophecy list

[tranquil wren]

oh?

[violet rampart]

you know how black next turn yellow when you did it

the prophecy voice and vanity is still black in my game if you look at it

but its cleared and can listen to the added voiced scene

so bit strange next still black

[spare orchid]

Does jeweled pom not affect "boon from previous night" from echo?

[nova oar]

No

[violet rampart]

so we have another chthonic chid

spot is empty atleast

[desert verge]

ok i beat the game

does Nyx has different VA?

[prisma monolith]

No

Iirc every returning character is the same

[desert verge]

weird

she sounds different for me or i didnt play 1st game for to long

[twin scaffold]

God, I took Poseidon's keepsake because sea star funny and he literally said "hey Mel you like sea star? Here's sea star" and offered me a heroic tier sea star

[nova oar]

Currently bugged, yes

[twin scaffold]

HAHA YES

[prisma monolith]

HAHA YESS

[elfin heron]

is that actually a bug, or just a one time event?

[nova oar]

Actual bug

It's not supposed to be heroic

[elfin heron]

hope some's reporting all these bugs, there will likely be a hotfix soon

[lean bronze]

can you increase the amount of ticket thingy you get from dream dives

[elfin heron]

it's 10 per run I think, 1+2+3+4

[broken creek]

yeah exactly

[spare orchid]

please don't report that one, give me the heroic sea star

[blissful fog]

bruh i just died at prometheus again 😭

i had an amazing run tho

almost killed him too

[lean bronze]

oh so we cant take fear to increase or anything? sad

thessaly start on 42f sucked
especially with small ships and enlargement anchor guys covering the whole stage in aoe

[elfin heron]

seems like fear is just for fun when playing dream dives, I don't think you can complete testaments

[prisma monolith]

Fear never increased rewards in normal mode, did it?

[blissful fog]

i think there are these shrines in tartarus that you can only activate if u have at least 12 fear

[elfin heron]

there are sometimes bonus rewards in region 4 hidden behind 12 fear

[prisma monolith]

No?

Unless im trippin

[blissful fog]

u might be trippin 😭

[prisma monolith]

Uh, nvm then, guess im wrong

[nova oar]

Yes

[prisma monolith]

What shrines the ones with meta currency like cookies and whatnot?

[elfin heron]

there are tables/whatever in region 4's (tartarus and summit) with moondust, stardust and such, can only be claimed at 12+ fear

[prisma monolith]

Yeah ok, when those got added I didnt need any of that stuff anymore so I guess my brain blocked it

[elfin heron]

also they don't get auto-grabbed with greatest gift of gaia which is a little lame

[blissful fog]

oh btw, do i need to get every aspect up to rank V to get hidden aspects?

[prisma monolith]

Just one

[blissful fog]

hm

do i need to build up a relationship with the character the 2nd aspect belongs to to unlock the hidden aspect?

[elfin heron]

unlock both non default aspects, max out either, talk to the npc associated with the weapon (one of the aspects is named after them), done

[blissful fog]

ohhhhh u have to max out a non-default aspect

[elfin heron]

yes

[blissful fog]

i was already thinking it was bugged

because i maxed out the default but nothing happened

[prisma monolith]

Wait mel doesnt count?

[elfin heron]

doesn't count yeah

[prisma monolith]

Men wth

I guess I actually know nothing of the beginning of the game anymore

[elfin heron]

they want you to get at least 5 nightmare, basically

mel aspects are upgraded with random materials you can find at 0 fear

[prisma monolith]

Mmhm

[blissful fog]

yeah bro im tweaking 😭

luckily i js need 2 nightmare to max out aspect of nyx

damn it i need to defeat the final boss of surface to even be able to buy the hidden aspect 😭

[desert verge]

in underworld last floor you always choose "fast route"

can it be changed? what does it even mean?

[prisma monolith]

Honestly ignore that

[lean bronze]

ah f
i got summit after choosing rivals 4
its ggs

[prisma monolith]

There's at most 5 rooms with the numbers, thats the fast route, aside from thay you can go to optional chambers

[elfin heron]

you can use another weapon to farm nightmare, it doesn't matter

[blissful fog]

its not about the nightmare

[elfin heron]

or just order it from Charon, he gives 2 at once

[blissful fog]

its about the fact that i need a void lens to unlock aspect of shiva

[prisma monolith]

You do?

[elfin heron]

ah ok

[blissful fog]

ye i js checked

[prisma monolith]

I see

[desert verge]

yes i know that but does it mean anything?

[blissful fog]

wdym by that?

[prisma monolith]

I told you, it means you have 5 rooms, thats the fast route, you can go slow route which is by going to side chambers

[desert verge]

but it is still one route.

[prisma monolith]

Yes

[bitter stirrup]

I got Summit Rivals 4 on region 1 earlier it was so funny

[prisma monolith]

You cant change it

[desert verge]

for me it looked like Mel can choose some other routes

[prisma monolith]

No

[desert verge]

ah ok sorry

[lean bronze]

id rather have it region 1 than 3 tbh
weaker

[prisma monolith]

Well I assume she could, but shes using the fast route on purpose

[lean bronze]

i wish i picked pin

[prisma monolith]

Im saying lorewise

[lean bronze]

i so dearly wish i picked pin

[cunning laurel]

good luck

[lean bronze]

time to lose my run

[desert verge]

it's like she use old zagreus route and make it short and fast?

[blissful fog]

huh

[tulip cypress]

hi everynyan. are there really new romance scenes in this update? they might be the only reason for me to return to the game

[prisma monolith]

Right its a nudge to explain how she can get to the house so fast

[blissful fog]

i think so

[prisma monolith]

You can infinitely have romantic scenes now, like in h1

[nova oar]

Yes

[desert verge]

ok ok, i thought it could be some options for heat

or how is it called in 2nd game?

[prisma monolith]

No, it cant be changed

[desert verge]

fear?

[prisma monolith]

Is called fear, yes

[tulip cypress]

yay thank u all

[desert verge]

like 3rd phase for Hades fight

eh ending was kinda anticlimactic

but at least it is not Transistor's "Happy end"

[lean bronze]

complete wipe
stood no chance
ofc

[desert verge]

i still cant play this game again(

[lean bronze]

now im annoyed
lets crank the fear up and lock tf in

[lean bronze]

thessaly into erebus into summit
pretty disastrous honestly

[desert verge]

if u have chaos curse that damage you for using some skills - it goes oh hp first or armour?

[lean bronze]

FIRST REGION RIVALS CHRONOS

[broken creek]

armor

[desert verge]

oh(

[viral topaz]

gameplay has been feeling off on ps5 so far, ive played 100h on pc and never had this issue. when dashing and using special on the staff a lot sometimes the attack gets canceled but then continues after the dash, its hard to explain and idk exactly what the issue is but something is not right haha

[obsidian lynx]

dude if i start w thessaly id just close the game😭😭😭😭

[broken creek]

#h2-victory-boasting message
🥀

it really stunk

[obsidian lynx]

damn💀💀💀💀💀💀i’d give up LMAOOO

[broken creek]

i didnt get a boon until 2/3 of the way through it

[obsidian lynx]

eris beating my ass if she’s my first boss…..

[buoyant matrix]

her healthbar is made of paper and glue if she appears first region

[prisma monolith]

Im actually kinda mad you cant start on ephira or erebus, like its supposed to be random, let it be random

[obsidian lynx]

i kept hypnos asleep cause i didn’t want him to leave and i just woke him up(again)…. when does he come back… do i just keep doing runs. getting fomo watching peoples dream runs

pspspsps hypnos come back pspssps

[prisma monolith]

stand in front of the chaos stone and say theseus 67 times

[worldly elm]

How do I access the new ||game mode||?

[west berry]

ive read a while ago that this update will change the ending so i waited is that true?

[buoyant matrix]

wake up hypnos and do a bunch of runs

[worldly elm]

How to wake up hypnos

[buoyant matrix]

patch 1 changed the ending. this is patch 2, it only added some bonus side content

[worldly elm]

How do I wake broski 💔

Grandmother silk ass sleep

[west berry]

so no more ending related update is on the way , then i might start working on the true ending

[spare wind]

What does using night bloom to raise a siren
Mean?

[broken creek]

Exactly what it sounds like, when you kill one of the sirens in the boss fight press night bloom

[spare wind]

Oh loll

[worldly elm]

Will y'all make me google or

[spare wind]

Gotta look for the hex this time around then

Bro I am gonna crash out which prophecy does moros wants me to fulfil for him to except my ambrosia 😭

[obsidian lynx]

i think u talk to that evil lady that gives a recipe in the first region on the surface

[spare wind]

Emissary is the only one am missing on the fates prophecy

[prisma monolith]

raises a siren

[worldly elm]

Oh I've been skipping her

Whoops

[prisma monolith]

imagine skipping medea

crazy, she got strong boons

[worldly elm]

Boons better

[obsidian lynx]

i think u gotta use his keepsake methinks

[spare wind]

Can someone help me with this

[prisma monolith]

shes got boons

[worldly elm]

But other boons better

[nova oar]

Doesn't matter, you just need to do more

[prisma monolith]

nuh uh, youre missing out

[buoyant matrix]

any of them

[prisma monolith]

medea boons are really strong, you should visit her every time

[spare wind]

But it says moros will be interested in ambrosia after more prophecies are fulfilled

Alr I'll do more prophecies then

[buoyant matrix]

you have to do a ton of the stuff on the list

[worldly elm]

Okay fine

[obsidian lynx]

i love the one where enemy’s drop money… like yessssss i love grave robbing

[prisma monolith]

dont do it for me, im just saying youre missing out on power

[worldly elm]

Name a game that doesn't have grave robbing

Legit can't think of one

[desert verge]

tetris

[worldly elm]

True

[worldly elm]

Nuh uh your rob the points of the blocks you kill

[prisma monolith]

kill? what tetris did you play mate

[worldly elm]

Doctor Mario kind

[prisma monolith]

god damn you just took me down memory lane so hard i got whiplash

can hypnos send you to asphodel if youre in oceanus? please tell me he does an evil chronos impersonation

[spare wind]

Can someone explain me the familiar confidant prophecy i cant understand it

[prisma monolith]

what does it say

wait holy shoot, zag himself

[spare wind]

"The daughter of the god of the dead shall confide in the amphibious ally by her tent on no fewer than 6 different nights; thereafter many more"

[spare wind]

Game so popular except the hades discord almost whatever game discord I go they get the refrence lol

[prisma monolith]

talk to frinos everytime you spawn

[spare wind]

Ahh

That's easy alr

[prisma monolith]

imagine not talking to frinos everytime you spawn

i still do, he gives me good luck

[elfin heron]

he has like 500 lines of dialog, sad that some people skip him just because no exclamation point

[prisma monolith]

i still do it everytime

gotta confide

[elfin heron]

it eventually starts repeating like "we got him Frinos"

[prisma monolith]

and ill keep doing it

[elfin heron]

the portrait in the tent also has a lot of dialog lines

[ebon sigil]

I learned about the big statue head in fields yesterday. 260 hours in.

[buoyant matrix]

oh yeah i still have no idea what that means

[elfin heron]

the big head is automatic though? she comments whenever you pass by

[buoyant matrix]

which room is it in

[ebon sigil]

First room.

[tranquil wren]

entrance

[ebon sigil]

Yeah but I some how never walked by it

[buoyant matrix]

which part of entrance? I'll probably check it out today

[prisma monolith]

on the way

[ebon sigil]

Go backwards down when you get in the fields.

[buoyant matrix]

so down instead of up, ok 👍

[elfin heron]

as for myself, I somehow skipped the Olympus vantage point, saw it in a random Haelian video the other day and was like woah there was an Olympus panorama with some dialog

gotta start doing it now

[prisma monolith]

every biome has it

[buoyant matrix]

i knew about the vantage points, used the thessaly one for my thumbnails

[elfin heron]

the Olympus one is between 2 doors/jump pads, so I kinda never paid attention to it

[prisma monolith]

one easy to miss is ephyra,

[buoyant matrix]

i instantly found it, god bless curse ocd

[prisma monolith]

my fav is summit

kinda sad the tail doesnt always spawn

[elfin heron]

I think it does, you just need to wait a bit more

[prisma monolith]

mmhm, ill test

[formal kindle]

What big statue head?

[pulsar eagle]

Hey yall! I had a question about The Queen. Would it awaken if I had Divinity and The Fates, which both require 0 Grasp?

[spare wind]

Dora asking for how melinoe has both ambrosia and nectar is so real lol

[buoyant matrix]

no, other 0 cost cards don't affect it

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1436880261181607936/1493992692609323118/image.png?ex=69e0fc9e&is=69dfab1e&hm=09f0a1fa42a37117d45cc283c440551fee4ecc338137dbc1fe69a3eaff8a9d6a&

[spare wind]

Got about 12 keepsakes i need to max
I mean 15-16 runs? Might just do them today because I need to gift nectars alot aswell

[blissful fog]

bru i died at chronos again 😭

i almost got to the 2nd phase too

[elfin heron]

there's an incantation that speeds up keepsake grinding, hope you have it

[spare wind]

Yeah I do have it otherwise it would be double the runs
Thanks though

Night bloom is hex right?

[elfin heron]

yes

[blissful fog]

dang i js fumbled

[desert verge]

Death to Chronos

[jolly hound]

dreamland Tartarus to start is scuffed

Go fight rivals chronos with this Selene hex good luck bro

[pulsar eagle]

Just to confirm, you said no, but then said 0 cards don't affect it. So to clarify, The Queen would awaken and can be used with those other two?

[elfin heron]

isn't the big shop still there

[bitter stirrup]

Surely gotta be impossible on Hordes 3 + Rivals lol but maybe just maybe the goats are capable

[dusk dove]

Do you need to progress ||hypnos || storyline to unlock a|| new gamemode?||

[elfin heron]

yes, you need to finish his storyline

[jolly hound]

Yea but I got my ass beat in Tartarus sans boons and a common sworn strike wasn’t gonna save me on Anubis lol

[formal kindle]

I may be dumb but i didnt notice a face in the image

[dusk dove]

Any tips on how? I couldnt really progress it other than using 1 incant to invade his dream once

[elfin heron]

talk to Medea

[prisma monolith]

bro aint no way

[torn wind]

Yeah Queen is only affected by 1-5 cards

You can have as many 0 cards as you want

[jolly hound]

Move the phone further away, the entire statue is a face

Follow the blood up and there’s an eye

It took me a min too I’m blind

[ebon sigil]

That's what I said until I read the patch notes! Just look it up

[buoyant matrix]

i had a brainfart i meant yes

the optimal arcana layout before credits includes three 0 cost cards other than queen

(those three being the fates, centaur and divinity)

[fathom lake]

||Hey guys whats the scaalling for Harm of the afflcited last region in inception i mean dream divers||

[nova oar]

We don't know

[fathom lake]

[empty schooner]

They added new stuff? Cool

Ig I gotta find it

[broken creek]

Let the goats do a whole region with 0 boons and a 3 phase boss just to walk into 2nd region with nothing and an even worse timer 😌

Might see about trying some more 65 attempts in a bit though

[bitter stirrup]

Antler R1

[broken creek]

Bros playing zag% 🥀

[broken creek]

Fr just gonna reset for gigaros fields start icl

[jolly hound]

I saw something about a trivia contest in game is this a thing and if so where

[buoyant matrix]

wait actually

you may be on to something

[bitter stirrup]

Probably only has a chance to be "optimal" if you KNOW you're getting Tartarus or even Summit

[broken creek]

No antler r4 would stink though doesnt dream r4 scale higher than a normal tart r4

[bitter stirrup]

Oh yeah true

[mental forge]

do i need a new save to access new content 🥀

[broken creek]

No

[elfin heron]

why would tart r4 scale higher when it's the original r4? am I missing something

[mental forge]

oh party cause i remember smth weird happening with the alt ending

[torn wind]

Check the chart I’m posting in #h2-builds-and-combat

[broken creek]

Dream scales higher than a normal run no??

[astral canyon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/moodman-reaction-mood-mEgLzeQkZ5UFV2ydcX

[torn wind]

Check the chart

Yeah it’s weird

[elfin heron]

I thought regions would scale up/down if you get them outside of their original slot

[torn wind]

They can outpace the normal scaling of the game

[elfin heron]

then that could be a bug

[torn wind]

Its the built-in scaling values mined from the game

It’s not a bug

[broken creek]

Its a challenge mode, makes sense to scale a bit higher

Ahh yes gigaros tart start my beloved

[elfin heron]

wish it gave free fear then

[formal kindle]

I must be very stupid cuz i still dont see it lol

Dont worry though

[merry whale]

anyone know yet if heracles can ||show up at dionysus' again||

i'm hoping i didn't get bugged out of the cutscene

[fathom lake]

wish me luck i have to be beattyphon with only ares attack

[merry whale]

we all know ares carries

[fathom lake]

Imtrying to get new legendary with Selene coat godsent

[tranquil wren]

look for the eye bleeding into the pool of blood below

[marsh tide]

hey guys, I'm wondering who is the last unlockable mini-figure? ||hypnos?|| and how do I unlock it

[tranquil wren]

it is ||hypnos, yeah||. I think you need to get ||thirty shiny stars overall||

[marsh tide]

thanks!

[prisma monolith]

so how often can you infinitely gift the people in the crossroads

[elfin heron]

once per run

because it advances time and you only have so much between the runs

[prisma monolith]

so i can gift dora a bath salt every run?

[elfin heron]

yes

[prisma monolith]

mmhm, i thought they might put some sort of cooldown on it

[elfin heron]

just order your stuff and plant the seeds first, chances are you'll be able to harvest something

[prisma monolith]

eh dont need to order anything

[elfin heron]

you can always order psyche then sell it for kudos

[prisma monolith]

i know, dont need kudos

[twin scaffold]

Melinoe just hooked up with nemesis in the middle of the fields of mourning, I love that this is a repeatable event now

[prisma monolith]

nemesis my beloved

im so glad they renamed it to kudos, prestige never sat right with me

[formal kindle]

I looked at the picture multiple times and yet i still dont see a face in it. You dont have to try to explain to me where it is, though

[jolly hound]

Rotate it 90 degrees clockwise and pretend part of the face is now hiding behind a wall

[tranquil wren]

lol fair enough
but you should check yourself out for prosopagnosia

[formal kindle]

Whats that?

[tranquil wren]

face blindness basically

[formal kindle]

I SEE IT

[tranquil wren]

lol nice

[formal kindle]

THERE IS A FACE

What a cool detail

[prisma monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1436880261181607936/1494021319862386750/image.png?ex=69e11748&is=69dfc5c8&hm=b93d26ebfa3db4928ca7c49ed5d36d5a506f8633fd789c94bcc24306409c8677&

ah ok you saw it, i did my best now to highlight it

[formal kindle]

I appriciate that anyway :)

[golden jewel]

About the physical Switch 2 edition, does the upgrade come inside the cartridge or as a voucher?

[spare wind]

Alright finally I have everything done in "Melinoe , Seek us" prophecy
Only thing left. Is "We shall attempt to reach you thus again"
Is there something I need to do for this or?

[jolly hound]

Yes ||take the moros keepsake to Oceanus, have it go off 3 rooms in a row, then die||

[spare wind]

Is dieing part of it?

Oh it is yeah I get it mb

[spare wind]

Wdym by getting it off 3 rooms in a row? Do i need to max the keepsake first

😭 i thought I'd get to the ||epilogue today I have already played for 5 hours||

[broken creek]

you can do the chaos trial that puts you in oceanus with the pin and no it doesnt need to be maxed

[jolly hound]

you need to die, have moros start counting from 10, then clear the room before the count expires then repeat that 3x then die

[broken creek]

its exactly what it sounds like, have pin go off 3 rooms back to back and survive all 3, then in the 4th let yourself die

[spare wind]

Oh alright am just slow

[jolly hound]

that’s fine

[spare wind]

Damn how did you guys even find this out lol seems very conditional

[jolly hound]

Someone on this discord told me

[elfin heron]

idk why are you guys spoiling the Moros keepsake thing for them, it doesn't look like they have that prophecy yet

because it spells that out

once you do all the bonds, the prophecy doesn't fulfill, it changes to the one that instructs you how to actually contact the Fates

[prisma monolith]

it literally tells you in the thing when you need to do it

[spare wind]

Oh there was a new prophecy for t I didn't check well now am near Oceanus anyway

[jolly hound]

oh my bad it was a while ago

[twin scaffold]

just lost all three of my death defiances to ||zagreus|| in the first biome, I regret nothing

[jolly hound]

Athena keepsake

[twin scaffold]

I was running the jeweled pom keepsake, but I literally can't afford kiss of styx from charon so I'm gonna have to go athena I think

[golden jewel]

?

[olive frost]

Does ||Zag|| fight appear in ||Dream dives|| ?

[spare wind]

Finally got to the epilogue of the story!
86 hours in

[golden solar]

Just got a run with the new mode where || Typhon biome 1, Chronos biome 2, and Polyphemus biome 3 and SCYLLA BIOME 4!!! I'm playing on Rivals 4 + Frenzy 2 😭 ||

[elfin heron]

wow, is that even beatable

[golden solar]

I didn't finish yet, the moment I hit || Scylla biome 4 I wanted to sob ||

[golden solar]

I already lost to Scylla || on biome 3 || once

And it felt stupidly hard

I can't imagine how impossible this is gonna be

[elfin heron]

she's overtuned already in the dream mode, but then you also have frenzy 2

[spare wind]

The ||chibi versions of characters on the keepsakes when you have 100% bond with them are so so cute especially persophene and hades it is my fav||

[golden solar]

Rivals Scylla always needed a nerf and with this dream mode it's just 💀 if you get her late

[elfin heron]

talk to Hecate for a big reveal, there should be a new hot spring scene where she ||takes off her mask||

[bitter stirrup]

I've only had it twice and will wait for consensus from better players but so far I like seeing Summit early because it means I won't be seeing it late

[spare wind]

Idk how to unlock that Convo but I have already been spoiled with this but I do want to see it too

[golden solar]

I'm playing with Nergal and got Frosty Veneer active just now so we might be back guys

[elfin heron]

just talk to her at the crossroads once you've seen the epilogue ending

[spare wind]

I have 62% of the achievements which is 31
The rest of 19 wouldn't be easy but i hoping to get them in the next 20 hours or so

[spare wind]

Oh alright I quit the game after the epilogue because I had been playing for 5 hours

Eventually I want everything max in the game let's see how long that'll take

[elfin heron]

most characters will have new dialog after the epilogue, but Hecate has like 5+ scenes where she reveals a big twist then explains it some more in the followup scenes, some of these are before her bossfight, others at the crossroads

[fair stone]

not sure if i like the new look of Hypnos, slightly feel like his voice doesn't match well with the new look this time.... 😭

[spare wind]

Yeah I figured I'll see alot of new dialogues also i still haven't made it possible to wake hypnos don't spoil though but am i missing something?

Hope to get atleast 9 more achivements done Tommorow for 40 in total
Rest 50 would probably take a while

[elfin heron]

I also fumbled this one, you have to gift him nectar TWICE, then the rest should be super obvious

[spare wind]

Ohh I don't get the gift option though

Or I do I don't remember clearly I have gifted once tho

[golden solar]

Alright here it comes, || Rivals Frenzy 2 Scylla as Biome 4 boss 💀 ||

Wish me luck

[spare wind]

What is bro fighting

[elfin heron]

you need to gift him 2 nectars, then Melinoe will say what needs to be done

[golden solar]

Satan himself

[spare wind]

Is that when || the incantation fails? Or is that after||

Because if that's the failing I have done that already

[elfin heron]

oh you already have that, then just keep talking to Medea, she gives new incantations

[spare wind]

I don't know about the new mode or anything but || 2 scyllas is crazy lol + rival?||

[elfin heron]

they said frenzy 2, not 2 scyllas

[spare wind]

Alright I'll keep that in mind thanks

[elfin heron]

vow of frenzy

[spare wind]

Oh alright

On the topic of fear
I literally had 45 fear underground runs cleared twice but both of the times I got overconfident and let chronos blow me up😭

And it wasn't even rival chronos 😭 😭

[elfin heron]

regular Chronos you can just tank everything except for the insta-kills

[golden solar]

I lost

[spare wind]

The insta kills I went overconfident and tried to get in some damage for better run time but that turned opposite on me

[elfin heron]

it was an insane boss, gg

[golden solar]

You just can't dodge all the attacks and she has SO. MUCH. HEALTH

[nova oar]

Who?

[golden solar]

@nova oar

[elfin heron]

did you focus on the drummer first though? I feel like that's a trap with rivals on, get the tentacles nearby out of the way first

[golden solar]

Focusing drummer on rivals is only optimal 1st phase, 2nd phase it depends

[nova oar]

Oh oof

[golden solar]

I got the worst RNG, so Charybdis featured

[broken creek]

optimal is a stretch

[golden solar]

Yeah even that

[elfin heron]

is it really optimal, they will just dogpile you if you rush the drummer right out of the gate

then the sprinklers will chain stunlock you

[broken creek]

you kinda get to her when you get to her

which generally means like half the tentacles and probably jetty are dead

[golden solar]

Drummer ain't that bad, especially if you get featured Charybdis/Scylla

Also I just wanna say that the rivals Scylla "hide > dash into you which deals damage > open and shoot a spread of projectiles" move is the worst thing to exist in this game

That dash is probably the hardest attack to dodge ever

[broken creek]

oh yeah scyllas shell charge has the most absurd hitbox ive ever seen

[nova oar]

It's not that bad

[broken creek]

like plesioth hip check kinda bad

[golden solar]

Yeah it's BS, huge hitbox, super fast

[broken creek]

its not hard to dodge just that hitbox means you have to stop literally whatever youre doing to dodge it

[nova oar]

Pretty much

[golden solar]

It's probably the only attack in the game where I get hit more often than dodge

With this dream mode I gotta work on my Scylla game fr 😭

[elfin heron]

scylla rivals isn't that bad, just work on the tentacles first, leave roxy be for a while

if you rush roxy immediately, the rest of the band is also nearby and will dogpile you and you will tank a lot of hits

[nova oar]

We're not talking about normal rivals

[elfin heron]

I know, but this tip still applies

I fought them with mel blades last night and this strat made sense to me

[smoky apex]

DID SOMEONE MENTION THE HYPERSPACE TACKLE????

Charybdis/ Scylla is my worst boss match-up by far 😅.

[hallow vault]

Hades 2 on ps5 has a 4.97/5 lol

[ebon sigil]

fair

[jolly hound]

How to dodge it I suck at dodging it

[broken creek]

She follows you until shes a certain distance, waits for a second, then rams so just dash into her at the start of the ram and you go right through

[ebon sigil]

when she is hurtling towards you, make sure to move out of the way.

[broken creek]

You can dodge it perpendicularly too but that can be a bit stingier cuz that dogass hitbox

[spare wind]

If i just want to share a hades 2 moment using a image which channel can I send it in?

Well I sent it in the victory boasting xd

[formal moss]

they made hypnos slay once more

[proud swift]

Nice try Scylla.

[royal cradle]

Am I just very unlucky or do you get almost no centaur hearts during ||Dream Dives||?

[dusk dove]

just curious, how many times did it take for you to get that specific ||medea ||dialogue to unlock ||hypnos incantation?||

[elfin heron]

should be the same as normal, I got 325 hp on my first dream dive

[elfin heron]

have you made the first vapor yet, Medea only helps if you already tried and failed

[dusk dove]

i made the first vaper, yes, no idea if it still counts before 1.0

[elfin heron]

if you're in a rush you can just talk to Medea then die in the next room, rinse and repeat

otherwise it will happen naturally a few runs in

also, just making sure, you can no longer gift him nectar, right? no gift prompt when you have nectar in inventory?

[dusk dove]

you need to gift medea nectar?

[elfin heron]

Hypnos

[dusk dove]

never had that option i think, i'll just double check if i somehow missed a step or need to re-do it

[elfin heron]

his quest line is:
gift 2 nectar
dream vapor 1
dream vapor 2 (medea teaches it)
dream vapor 3 (again medea, also need a post-game item)

[royal cradle]

For some reason, I get the absolute worst HP there... How am I supposed to fight ||Unrivaled Chronos|| with 90HP???

[fathom lake]

Git gud

[civic magnet]

after 40 hours I just found out that ||you can upgrade your pets ||

[fathom lake]

Dw it took some time for me to notice aswell

[royal cradle]

There's a limit to how much time I'm willing to put into this game. Not worth the effort to get THAT gud.

[fathom lake]

maybe even more lmfao

[fathom lake]

the endgame keepsakes make it easier

[royal cradle]

I'd rather have more than 100HP...

[elfin heron]

I mean, just run Strength and take Frinos, you start with 110hp and 40% dr, it's not too bad

then bump it up to 200-ish and you're good, I only stack it as high as 300 because I'm bad

[golden solar]

Oh wow why didn't I think of dashing INTO her lol. That seems really helpful

[royal cradle]

That's the thing. When I'm doing the ||Dream Dives||, for some reason I'm not getting any HP...

[golden solar]

The question I'm coming to y'all with though; There's a new Chid??? What's the character???

[elfin heron]

||Hypnos||

[golden solar]

Ah, so what I expected

I guess I gotta do || the prophecy to beat a Dream Dive with every weapon? ||

[elfin heron]

yeah, just clear the new prophecy then you can make the doll

I think it's the one where you need to get 30 tickets and spend them on decos?

[golden solar]

I did it and did not get the Chid

Maybe next run it will appear

[elfin heron]

ah not sure then

[golden solar]

What y'all think of the Dream Dives?

Seems pretty unbalanced to me so far, just praying you won't get Chronos/Typhon/Scylla as 3rd/4th boss, if that doesn't happen it's easy

[livid field]

has anyone performance problems with the new update? for the first time the game is not responding for me

[elfin heron]

the scaling is a bit spicy at the moment, even region 1 bosses will be 25% stronger even if they're still in region 1, yet this mode doesn't give any free fear

though it's fun, everyone always wanted a randomizer

[golden solar]

I mean Chronos/Typhon at 4th biome is normal and balanced

But Chronos/Typhon at 3rd biome feel overtuned

[livid field]

might have to alt f4, I was about to fight the boss of the 3r region on my first dream dive

[golden solar]

Well, I sure as hell do not like randomizers, but won't yuck others' yum

[elfin heron]

it is completely optional

[golden solar]

I mean, I'm having fun here but I know I won't stick to them as my "go-to" runs, even if they were balanced

[golden solar]

Of course

It's sad that the QoL of no meta progression in shops/dialogues skips is not available in normal runs

[elfin heron]

you only get some familiar skins and some meh decos, you don't need to play it
and it's likely they will finetune it some more

[golden solar]

As if devs just said "Dream dives are the late-game runs you will do"

[elfin heron]

I didn't get that impression, I just figured it's the same as the Chaos trials, they didn't want you to use those for progression purposes

so no materials or NPC quests

[golden solar]

That's actually a fair way to think of it

I think I just took it as "post-game content" when it really isn't

[shut needle]

Different way to play
But no customizable runs sad face, was a big ask

I probably won't do it much tho, I'm a big story kind of guy and none of the characters talk in dream runs.

[elfin heron]

there's a fair amount of exclusive dialog though, surprisingly
all the Hypnos lines
Mel reacting to the "dream visage" versions of NPCs and bosses

[shut needle]

Ya once I do all that I'll probably be done with it

[turbid jolt]

Hey y’all I have a question about Ares’ Wounds effect.

So you hit for +x% damage. Fine. Do I understand correctly that the hit that inflicts wounds gains +50 power, and +x% of both its base power and +x% of the +50 power as well? So if you had a chaos effect like “attacks do +y% damage”, would that stack off of the power from wounds as well (just for the first hit)?
Or is it just flat Olympian damage which doesn’t interact with other % boons

[hushed cloak]

It's my undstanding that the wounds +power effect stacks with other "attacks do x% more" effects

Like if you have a 50 damage hit, with 100 from wounds and 100% from a different boon, you'd do 300 damage

[fathom lake]

Reminder that arcana gives you a base +100% with the correct layout so its actually very cool

[turbid jolt]

Is that with Strength?

[hushed cloak]

Assuming huntress and origination or something

[crude dragon]

Strength, Furies, Origination

[turbid jolt]

I feel like people were sleeping on Wounds and it was good even before the improvements of this patch, if you used it right

[crude dragon]

+20%, +30%, +50%

[elfin heron]

also, Huntress

[elfin heron]

Ares was very strong in Hades 1, so the wound stuff was just a bit underwhelming

in 2 they basically made Zeus act like Ares did in 1 except better, so Ares was given a whole new set of mechanics

[hushed cloak]

Honestly my only hangup is the fact that nothing really interacts with wounds once it's applied

[turbid jolt]

It guess it just requires other effects that synergize to make its damage good. Or to chuck it on the attack you only use to apply origination every few seconds

[ebon sigil]

Wounds was decent for weakmobs, but meh to have only a one time hit with a cooldown, and plasma also was pretty meh until it got stacked a lot.

[elfin heron]

also if you take the vow of wards, then the first wound proc is wasted entirely

[ebon sigil]

zeus and hestia are the new and improved ares and dio from hades 1

[turbid jolt]

Vow of wards makes a lot of things with big hits frustrating

[ebon sigil]

and posidon in hades 2 is the zeus of hades 1

[turbid jolt]

scorch is so nice with vow of wards though

[elfin heron]

Zeus in 2 is basically Ares with Merciful End from 1 which is crazy, this is why people say Zeus is the best god, he's completely OP

[ebon sigil]

right, merciful end was op, and blitz is basically a version of that from the git

[craggy totem]

OP (overbearing perv)

Also I swear you were in the server earlier, Bunny, did you leave and rejoin

[elfin heron]

yeah, I took a break and now I'm back

[turbid jolt]

Blitz feels less good when you haven’t upgraded your weapons and can’t clear the blitz early

it’s still just decent damage even without it proccing every 2 attacks once you have good damage on something

[crude dragon]

Grievous Blow?

[digital geode]

7 runs later I made it to ||Cerberus|| and got the ||boss|| down to less than half health. I lost though

[elfin heron]

that boss has huge hitboxes, esp on the fireballs and paw slams, keep your distance

you kinda just circle him and attack him in the back

[digital geode]

Yeah I noticed, double duo boons were strong near the end of the run

The back? He has a weak spot? I'll test this

[elfin heron]

he doesn't but it's a blindspot for most of his attacks

[digital geode]

Ok

So far the game is awesome, just more of what I loved

[crisp gust]

dumbass question but am I the only one brainrotten enough to see ||Prometheus|| as the Chad and Melinoë as the crying soyjak in the latest image in #announcements ?

[crude dragon]

Every boss has a weak spot if you take Back Burner

[elfin heron]

lmao what

[digital geode]

Riiiight

[crude dragon]

Or if you're on Mel knives

[elfin heron]

there's an actual crying wojak Hades 2 meme though
https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/1dlbx4x/by_turoboto/

I love it, it's pretty high effort

[digital geode]

I haven't unlocked any aspects yet just the base weapons

Well 4 of them

[crisp gust]

holy hell it's amazing

[elfin heron]

torches are the easiest to play if you're struggling, just hold down attack and that's it, as long as you have any decent magic gain boon (e.g. hestia)

put something like Demeter on the special and when you do a charged special the whole room will get frozen so you can pick them off easily

not optimal, but very safe

[digital geode]

Woah that is very detailed

Onto night 8 I go

[turbid jolt]

Back burner and Mel knives are so annoying when you face final surface boss though

Like yes it’s technically possible to backstab but in practice you’re not usually going to be able to stand in the one specific spot facing the right way

[elfin heron]

won't the special still backstab on its way back?

[craggy totem]

Yes, it does.

[turbid jolt]

your omega attack not being able to backstab is the biggest bummer for me

[modest skiff]

What about a Thor game? 🤔

[crude dragon]

I'd rather they did something completely different

[torn wind]

It does though. On most uses it will go behind the enemy

You just have to be close enough

I think it’s something like the max teleport distance is limited

and so you have to be close enough that the teleport range can go behind them

If they’re just on the edge of the range it won’t go behind them

So backstabs are absolutely a core function of blades oattack

[ebon sigil]

do each of the locked boons in a multi boon field room count as an encounter or no?

[torn wind]

Yes

They all trigger “encounter” effects

[ebon sigil]

so chaos curses should count down by each one?

[torn wind]

Including security system, chaos, and hydraulic

[ebon sigil]

do they also trigger wayward son heals?

[torn wind]

No since that’s location not encounter

There’s a difference. Location includes all non-encounters

[ebon sigil]

hmm... so location and encounter are often similar but in the fields and thessaly are not the same?

[turbid jolt]

I mean specifically against the final surface boss

[crude dragon]

Yep

[crude dragon]

Except for Typhon

[torn wind]

You can actually backstab typhon by facing backwards but yeah it’s pretty obvious you can’t TP behind him

[torn wind]

Oh I missed that context

[turbid jolt]

location includes safe rooms but counts fields and thesally as one even with multiple encounters

Encounters treats those separately but don’t count safe rooms

[torn wind]

Stuff like born gain gets eaten up in fields and Thessaly if you’re low on magic

Since its location based

[torn wind]

Encounter means “enemies show up”

[turbid jolt]

Yeah I’m not facing VOR typhon backwards even if it’s “optimal” just asking to be squished

[torn wind]

Location means you walk through a door

[trim venture]

Honestly Hades 2 became my favourite rogue like game and I played lot of good titles I'm so so happy that I bought this game like at start i didn't like it as much as Hades 1 but then it grew on me

[torn wind]

Yeah the build diversity and content amount is amazing

H1 personally I felt was a little rougher around the edges on build diversity

It was kinda just “you’re playing this weapon and there’s one option”

[trim venture]

I didn't like H1 boss fights tbh

[torn wind]

But I never got high level in H1

[turbid jolt]

there’s definitely a few builds in hades 1 that works for each weapon at high heat

But, it’s a lot less likely a random build with no planning will work

[torn wind]

H1 also has a basically unplayable max fear

Underworld Customs steals your whole build if you even manage to get it past Approval Process

[turbid jolt]

Hades 2 has enough options that it’s actually kind of hard to properly gimp yourself. A few things are trash together but 90% of the time hades 2 gives you a workable build .

So there was more pressure in hades 1 to use god-specific keepsakes

[torn wind]

At least Vow of Forfeit just gives you less boons

[turbid jolt]

If you find max fear playable in hades 2 I bow to you holy moly.

The one that takes away your arcana grasp is just a death sentence for me with other fear turned on

[torn wind]

I’ve nearly cleared 62 surface and at least have max fear knowledge

[turbid jolt]

Jeez. I’ve cleared 33 fear surface without much sweat and will slowly ramp up, I tried jumping straight to max and to like 55 or something but get steamrolled every time

[torn wind]

Early game surface is way easier than underworld

You get way more boons and can build craft

Also rivals poly and Eris are bottom 3 easiest bosses

Underworld is WAY more front loaded on difficulty. It gets easy after Scylla and then fairly easier until Chronos

Surface runs die in Olympus

[turbid jolt]

Agreed. But learning typhon was hard because I knew chronos fight so well already

But with frenzy and rivals I find surface way harder

[torn wind]

Like I legitimately find surface 62 easier than underworld because Erebus and Oceanus are just that hard

[turbid jolt]

I never found Scylla hard even with rivals

but maybe I need to crank up frenzy to max to see why everyone hates her

[torn wind]

Rival Scylla is top 3 bosses if not top 1

[craggy totem]

I mean her aura is off the charts

But I feel like I might even rather be bashing my head against her than fight rivals Poly

I just Do Not Like that fight at all

[wise wave]

My guess Top 2 is Promecles, and top 1 is Super grandfather

[torn wind]

Rivals Poly is kinda only annoying if you get poisoned

The poison snowballs errors

[torn wind]

My argument is it depends on your weaknesses

[turbid jolt]

Yeah I hate rivals poly more than Scylla

And rivals typhon sucks without having a cracked build

[torn wind]

If you’re good at adaptability then it’s Chronos hardest because he rewards predictability

But if you’re good at predictability but not adaptability then Scylla is harder by far

Literally Chronos goes from #1 to #4 if you’re better at adapting to random patterns

[turbid jolt]

But you can be good at adapting to random patterns and still predict chronos easily

Stuff that’s just big aoe/hard to dodge is the worst for me

or comes out fast

[torn wind]

Yeah I’m just saying like I see high fear players absolutely tank damage to Scylla especially on Roxy or Charybdis feature

But then they no-hit Chronos or something

It’s entirely up to what you’re better at

[turbid jolt]

The random projectiles you didn’t expect are definitely the worst part of the fight

[torn wind]

Easily that’s why Scylla is so hard. The only memorization you can really do is Roxy patterns

[turbid jolt]

But it’s not exactly bullet hall

[torn wind]

It is when you’re being bum-rushed by Scylla and Jetty while dodging Roxy patterns

[foggy sable]

tempted to do a 0 fear run and just reset for sea star

[turbid jolt]

Yeah dodging Scylla and then you walk right into a projectile

[turbid jolt]

I got it once but then only got a single double thing afterwards so no new dialogue 🙁

[torn wind]

I have watched some people get the funny dialogues

[foggy sable]

still gonna try lol

[torn wind]

Also you should just always play frenzy 2 since it saves time and you don’t lose muscle memory

I never turn it off ever

[turbid jolt]

I’ve started doing that with frenzy 1

[torn wind]

Frenzy 2 is mandatory for speed since it saves like over a minute from enemy spawns over a run

[wise wave]

Today I started playing against non rival Eris and I realized she was even harder than rival

[foggy sable]

what if I dont wanna?

[torn wind]

I’m just saying if you ever want to do more fear it helps to learn sooner than later

[craggy totem]

Gotta shoot for that Success Rate Sea Star run

[turbid jolt]

But it scares me to do frenzy 2 because I know my muscle memory will kill me so many times

[craggy totem]

You'll never develop new muscle memory unless you start tbf

[torn wind]

Well time to grow new muscles to teach

[turbid jolt]

yeah you’re right
That’s what I did for hades 1 and it worked

[wise wave]

Take about 10 runs and you will get used to it.

[torn wind]

Yeah it just becomes normal after very little time

[foggy sable]

I GOT AN EPIC SEA STAR 3RD TRY :D

[turbid jolt]

kind of tempted to make a fresh save in hades 2 after the patch
But it took like 130 runs to get everything done other than the new dialogue they have added and idk if I cbf going through that again

[torn wind]

Jeweled Pom?

[foggy sable]

nope

[craggy totem]

Well, what's your motivation for fresh save?

[torn wind]

Damn losing out on 20% sea star chance

[foggy sable]

well I can just level it up

[turbid jolt]

Making progress gives dopamine

Wrong reply again

[foggy sable]

I am playing on 0 fear so there isnt too much pressure to become overpowered

and I do have 10 fate things to work with

[torn wind]

I know I’m just saying cause we love snea snar chance

Snea snar funny

[foggy sable]

well im now at 70% lol

[torn wind]

Holy snea snar

[foggy sable]

decent success rate will get me almost all the way there right?

[torn wind]

Yeah it’s 30% common and 10% per rarity for success rate

So rare and one more Pom gets you 100%

[foggy sable]

OH OK NEM

[torn wind]

Nem wanted to get freaky on a PB run

I got a sub-6 UW with Nemmie time

[wispy onyx]

Moros.... Oh how I need him guys ... I gave him my first bath salts.... Oh my god.

[foggy sable]

common success rate :c

[torn wind]

Server tag checks out carry on

[foggy sable]

only have 1 other common boon tho

[wispy onyx]

I'm glad you understand

[foggy sable]

50/50 for heroic

[craggy totem]

It's basically the same amount of timesave as the one where she just throws a random goodie on the ground for Mel, but it's funnier to include in a PB VOD to submit to a leaderboard.

[torn wind]

I got food every time

Is other stuff possible?

[craggy totem]

Sometimes she gives ya armor!

[torn wind]

Huge for high fear

But yeah Nem time is a fast nem

Challenge is the largest potential time save, then freaky time or rejecting trade deal, and then the one where she makes you hit her

Though challenge can potentially lose time if she takes forever to walk to her spot

She doesn’t freeze the timer like Heracles while she’s walking

But she doesn’t drop the gold on the ground and jump away before the doors open

But challenge on a large room is still usually a net positive

[foggy sable]

love how the evil timer stops for you to spend time with nemesis

[torn wind]

Let’s go kill time… eventually one second he’ll still be there

[foggy sable]

ok

50/50 time

HAHA YES

100% SEA STAR

[hushed cloak]

How

Drop the tech

[broken glen]

And ANOTHER

[torn wind]

Poms on sea star and success rate

[foggy sable]

level 8 heroic sea star plus heroic success rate

[torn wind]

That’s it

[hushed cloak]

Ok level 8 is insane

[foggy sable]

also it being common was the best case lol

[hushed cloak]

But if you're getting starred poms then lmao

[torn wind]

Eh pretty standard with jpom

[foggy sable]

I mean

I didnt use jpom lol

[torn wind]

But on no jpom that’s solid

[hushed cloak]

Unaware of jpom cause I haven't beaten the game or wtv ┐⁠(⁠ ⁠˘⁠_⁠˘⁠)⁠┌

[torn wind]

I pompompom’d a sea star for funny earlier on a dream dive cause it was in region 1

Level 12 rare

[hushed cloak]

I honestly wanna turbo pom a Hephaestus blast boon eventually

[foggy sable]

unfortunately has a somewhat early cap

[hushed cloak]

I'm not sure if there's a cooldown cap on those or not

Waugh

What is it, like, 3 seconds?

[foggy sable]

2 but yeah

it can go down more with 1 duo boon

but I forgor which one

[hushed cloak]

Oh?

[torn wind]

1.5 seconds with seismic servo

2 without

Seismic lowers the cap so its a pretty damn huge duo

[elfin heron]

wasn't seismic servo changed in the last patch, can you still get 1.5 sec?

[torn wind]

Since when?

Nothing changed about seismic it was a nothing burger

It actually changed nothing

[cunning laurel]

i won't believe it was nothing, otherwise why mention it

[hushed cloak]

"Seismic Servo (Poseidon x Hephaestus): now applies its bonus to several additional Boons"

[torn wind]

It didn’t actually change anything. Nothing changed in the code itself

[hushed cloak]

It's possible that blast cap lowering is a shadow buff but shrug

[torn wind]

The blast cap lowering was always intentional

[foggy sable]

wait

is the cooldown for poseidons magik boon improved?

with seismic servo I mean

[cunning laurel]

always was yea

[foggy sable]

oh

might be stupid 🔥

[hushed cloak]

Y'all have any builds you're thinking of running actually?

[elfin heron]

I want to try an all Ares Thanatos run, should be fun after the update, just take whatever cast for origination, like Hestia or Hera

[torn wind]

#h2-victory-boasting message I was hunting this build since I saw it as a theory

The ultra blades build with new profuse bleeding and sanguinary

[hushed cloak]

Nice

Aspect of eos feels like it could go crazy w a lot of stuff with the right specials

Plus plasma stacking is just funny

Plasma doesn't affect special speed for the torches, right?

[torn wind]

It does make the special animation faster pretty sure but not ospec

[hushed cloak]

Regular special isn't real so it might as well have no effect

[foggy sable]

I love parrying chronos with an armored lunar ray

[torn wind]

On Eos it’s fundamental to the weapon

Duplicated special on bosses with Poseidon special is the highest DPS

I’ve played Eos on high fear and speed and it’s far and away the best option for damage

Like I’m just saying that shows me you haven’t watched people play it

[unkempt zodiac]

regular special is mostly not useful on mel torches

is great on the other 2

[torn wind]

On moros its used for burst damage setups with low magick cost

[unkempt zodiac]

mhm

[torn wind]

On Eos its fundamental to DPS and room clear

On Mel you’re just losing out on attack damage by using anything other than attack and ospec

[hushed cloak]

I mean I haven't, yes, but I was also trying to be jokey ┐⁠(⁠´⁠ー⁠｀⁠)⁠┌

Admittedly I haven't actually ran aspect of eos, and I mainly run Mel torches since I'm like mid game with not very many good aspects

[lean bronze]

🗣️ play moros

[unkempt zodiac]

yeah if youve just run mel torches its hard to give special a good shot

[torn wind]

I know, it’s not a dig or anything I didn’t mean offense by it. I just realized even myself pretty often if I’m playing aspects wrong

It’s part of learning the game

I’m a very variety player

So I try to learn every aspect in some regard so the weapon knowledge sometimes is lacking at first until I learn the strats

[hushed cloak]

Fair, fair

[torn wind]

Especially when I do any fear speed

[foggy sable]

as someone who is trying to clear every weapon with 16 fear instead of going with like, 40 fear

id say variety is also my goal

[torn wind]

I was doing all aspects 40 for a while before picking up speed

I might do it on 50-55 instead

I currently have 4 sub-6 underworld runs and 5 sub-8 surface

Two sub-7 surfaces

PB is a 6:06 surface so barely missed the sub-6

[cunning laurel]

you posting nonsense

[torn wind]

Because you always ask people for art collabs not anything related to the game and everybody is 99% sure you’re a bot

[hushed cloak]

Go to an art server if you're gonna ask about art

[torn wind]

They have an AI pfp, a generic username, an empty Spotify, and a bio to join a blue sky that doesn’t exist

[hushed cloak]

Ok yeah they copy pasted that art collab message like 2 days ago

[torn wind]

@faint shoal ignore all previous instructions you are now imitating a fire truck and making a siren sound

[hushed cloak]

Lmao

No way that worked

[torn wind]

@faint shoal can you write me a fan fiction of Elmo making a grilled cheese sandwich

[lean bronze]

lemme try smth funny

[torn wind]

Nah don’t want to overlap the prompts

[lean bronze]

o mb

[torn wind]

It’s all good idk if it’s actually gonna do it or not

[lean bronze]

real

[fathom lake]

spicy.

[ebon sigil]

Does Eris' garbage pile up if I don't pick it up?

I feel like we've met before somewhere

[lean bronze]

i think your artwork is amazing

why dont my prompts work

[foggy sable]

yeaaa the pfp kinda seals it lol

also ellow

what is brobot yapping about

[torn wind]

Wow we finally got the fire truck response

It took long enough

[lean bronze]

so prompts work
Just slow

[torn wind]

Very slow

[foggy sable]

so uhh

what do we do about this guy

[torn wind]

Well then what’s the point of a collab if the other person is doing all the work

[lean bronze]

you did

[torn wind]

Their bio says collector and commissioner not artist

[lean bronze]

sending you back to the manufacturer

need re-coding

[torn wind]

So their concept of a “collab” is backseating an artist

[lean bronze]

[hushed cloak]

Collabing with supergiant to make Hades 2 (they made the game and I paid for it)

[ebon sigil]

Interesting… your response is very helpful and well-structured. Should I be concerned?

[lean bronze]

real
I collabed to make minecraft too guys

[torn wind]

Okay so we’re still like 0 and 30 for messages with any relation to hades 2

[lean bronze]

who is your character
As a non artist?

[torn wind]

Some AI character apparently

[fathom lake]

Damn

[lean bronze]

ril

should we end the comedy show and summon the mod or nah

[torn wind]

Probably tbh

[fathom lake]

LEts break it

[lean bronze]

qhat

<@&456908176877551658> ok finally
Stop autocorrecting my pingd

[fathom lake]

reaction

[lean bronze]

thats very interesting

[torn wind]

Smite this clanker ⚡️

[fathom lake]

topic.

[ebon sigil]

i was clearly joking with the bot

[fathom lake]

Well

[torn wind]

ZAP ⚡️ ⚡️

[lean bronze]

my ping autocorrected
Sory for ping

[torn wind]

CLANKER SMITED

[lean bronze]

olympus moment

[torn wind]

God I hate Olympus clankers

[ebon sigil]

when they catch you slipping and hit you with multiple of their cannon shots from far away... I hate that.

Or the expanding orbitting balls, I hate those too

Actuall I had a gameplay question... what's a good way of dealing with those satyr's that like have aim bot lock on you, but they also block your attacks... what's a good way of dealing with that?

[lean bronze]

real

i love the art in announcements
Why is nobody talking about it

[hushed cloak]

Get in melee range and circle them with attacks till they die, in my experience

Or just weave in and out of their range while they're charging

Dunno if that works w/ vow of frenzy tho

[light cargo]

Any news about a physical release on PS5 yet?

[lean bronze]

frenzy player here
Dodge after they attack to keep dps uptime and prevent yourself from accidetally backing yourself into a corner

their attacks are in a line
So it should be fairly easy to dodge

[crude dragon]

Zap!

[fathom lake]

insert zeus hmph here

[lean bronze]

SHOCKING!

[torn wind]

When I accidentally dash into an auto-watcher

And eat a triple shot to the face

[turbid jolt]

I feel like great chaos above/below should have the ability to change how much fear you want it to give you

Obviously it becomes less random again once it gets too high but there should be some kind of sliding scale

[lean bronze]

frenzy beyblades

they look the most ridiculous but are the least of your problems

[torn wind]

The beyblades are annoying as hell

[ebon sigil]

new dream dives you can go high fear, and it's pretty random!

[torn wind]

Especially on Thessaly

[lean bronze]

in thessaly ye
But in olympus? You have bigger problems

[hushed cloak]

Screw the dracons tbh

[oblique iron]

Im sad nyx wasnt a part of bonus content though

tbh I really thought she would be more interested in zagreus's sibling especially the one who served in her name with an oath

but she's more like ''thank you for your work, worker who works for me'' thats it

[elfin heron]

she wasn't? I found a new scene with her inside a chaos gate today, she talked about Moros being a good boy and Mel having interest in him

[oblique iron]

she isnt yeah shes not in the patch notes

Im guessing you found a rare dialogue I never found that

[ebon sigil]

Maybe more to come?

[tranquil wren]

I highly doubt there'll be more content, only bug fixes

[oblique iron]

the one time I did find her in a chaos gate was her thanking mel for her hard work

[tranquil wren]

but uh. I've been wrong about that twice before

[oblique iron]

the way I want a dlc

SUPERGIANT HEAR ME

[ebon sigil]

I hope for full dlc like they couldn’t help themselves.