h2-victory-boasting

[worldly moat]

He turns thessaly into hoards 1000, barely helps, and gives you the most useless bonuses

But ig thats also jpom speaking

[sour widget]

We love getting 9 waves in Thessaly cause hordes 5 billion

[worldly moat]

+3 levels is big if you arent doing whim

[rocky steppe]

Just because moros isn't in runs, doesnt mean he's not important

[safe geyser]

i really like the special one

makes the special cost 10 more magick but every hit triggers a 50 dmg explosion

super good with the axe

[sour widget]

It’s not special

It’s omegas

[worldly moat]

I need that "does he know" riddler image

[safe geyser]

so even better

[sour widget]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[worldly moat]

Thank you twin

[sour widget]

Oh wait wrong one

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[safe geyser]

you call 100 shield that makes you deal 4000 dmg to the boss when it breaks a crap reward?

[sour widget]

I mean it’s SOMETHING. If you already have an insane amount of magick it doesn’t hurt and it’s free damage on p-array slop

I like it on torches

Explosive intent is funny

[safe geyser]

its what i take from him 99% of the time

[worldly moat]

Its an ok reward but its good because its armor, that doesn't bave a bonus when you shouldn't get it in the first place

Its just arachne but worse

[worldly moat]

But compared to literally every other npc he does the least and causes the most problems

[sour widget]

Explosive intent on damage board is funny

[safe geyser]

well nah because i actively avoid npc room in chapter 1 but pog when explosive intent shows up

[sour widget]

Yeah Icarus on high gear can screw a run

[worldly moat]

Wtf why

[sour widget]

Cause he literally causes like 9 waves on hordes 3

[worldly moat]

Medea and arachne are amazing

[safe geyser]

medea sure
arachne no

[sour widget]

I had to fight 9 waves of Icarus on 62 with no magick on Eos torches

[worldly moat]

You just said 100 armor is goated so why is 60 not 😭

[sour widget]

On the super thin ship

[worldly moat]

Or every other dress that actually gives bonuses

[sour widget]

Plum please

You have to remember they’re literally a low-mid fear cheater

They don’t know what meta is

[safe geyser]

i dont need armor i only take it when explosive intent is not there and for the 4000 dmg boom

[sour widget]

Or high fear

[worldly moat]

Ur right twin my fault

[safe geyser]

not a cheater anymore all mods stopped working

after the update

[sour widget]

But still plum is arguing about high fear viability with somebody who hasn’t gotten a run under vow of time 3 restrictions above 32 fear

So like you’re just wasting time

[safe geyser]

i never even mentioned high fear

its like we are talking about 2 different games entirely

[sour widget]

I know I’m just saying Plum is high fear brained

[worldly moat]

67 does things to people ok 🥀

[sour widget]

Like you guys are in TOTALLY different worlds of what is good

[worldly moat]

62 is fun for me

[sour widget]

Plum genuinely can’t go back to <62F

So anything that isn’t 62+ viable is stupid

[safe geyser]

explosive intent is absolutely fantastic room clearing tool, ESPECIALLY with weapons that can spam magick attacks like crazy

and its just a juicy dmg boost against bosses nothing wrong with it

[sour widget]

I agree I like explosive intent. Most weapons at a high level though rarely use omegas because of the restrictions to magick when you turn on enough vows and because most weapons never use omegas

[rocky steppe]

Yes

[worldly moat]

Mfw I shouldn't be getting hit in the first place so its just 100 armor

I am indeed and antler addict

[sour widget]

100 armor is 100 armor when you’re running scars 3 as somebody who is scared of scars 3

Which is me

[safe geyser]

it makes you have 130 health with antler instead of just 30
and a massive explosion that probably crits for 12000 dmg with antler incase you get hit

[sour widget]

This is my ONLY EVERY 62F

[iron wind]

dang is aspect of eos that good?

[sour widget]

I got to Typhon first try and got peer pressured in a VC of 6 people to do wantler

[sour widget]

It’s high tier

[worldly moat]

Its the most consistent high fear flames

[iron wind]

i should try it tbh

[sour widget]

Very save aspect literally clears rooms with basically zero effort

[worldly moat]

Put hera on special and zeus on attack and everything explodes

[iron wind]

but im not that great with ranged weapons, since i prefer to deal heavy damage up close

[worldly moat]

Its a meele weapon in disguise

[sour widget]

@iron wind

[iron wind]

rn i've been using the argent skull and the black coat

[worldly moat]

Since the ball copies every special you do so preferably you go with it and spam special point blank

[iron wind]

oh my god 😭

[sour widget]

Supay is technically the least magick hungry aspect but it doesn’t count cause it’s Supay

But Eos just clears rooms for free with insane safety cause it can literally just go off on its own and clear half the room for you

[worldly moat]

Supay my beloathed 🥀

Thank god im never touching that thing

[sour widget]

So you’re gonna return to the game and do a 67 Supay right?

[safe geyser]

ive been playing with ranged weapons for 25 hours now, today i did my first melee weapon run and i noticed that melee weapons just feel A LOT stronger than ranged weapons

[iron wind]

ykw

i'll try a run with the flames

[worldly moat]

God no im doing 67 circe and a 62 dream dive circe and thats it

Maybe 67 hel if im in the mood

[sour widget]

No furies 🥀

Also you didn’t get psychic

[safe geyser]

what is psychic

[sour widget]

This

Psychic lets you move and attack while omega attack is active

[worldly moat]

Psychic is just the best axe hammer and its not close

[sour widget]

And lets you channel a whole additional one while it’s active

[worldly moat]

Although seething and dashing heave are also baller and more consistent

[safe geyser]

what does it do

[sour widget]

It’s literally fundamental as a “win button”

[sour widget]

I just said what it does

[safe geyser]

oh

[worldly moat]

You can still act while the Oattack is out

[sour widget]

Yeah you can stack omega attacks

[worldly moat]

It just makes it a death circle and you have full movement and attacks

[safe geyser]

ohhhh

[sour widget]

To keep it infinitely active

[worldly moat]

Its key for nergal and its best in slot for thanatos

[sour widget]

You just sprint around the room with blinding rush at Mach-F and kill everything

[worldly moat]

Mel and charon can use it to still really solid success just not as violent

[safe geyser]

omg stacking 2 Oattacks on top of eachother with apollo legendary would be so sick

[sour widget]

It doesn’t actually do double damage sadly

It’s only visual apparently as far as I’ve heard

But still no downtime is insane on Oattack

It’s fundamental to playing Nergal or Thanatos fast

It’s how they get any-fear runs within 30 seconds of p-array skull and world record

P-array skull is the strongest thing in the game and it isn’t close

But axe is insanely strong with psychic

It’s one of the biggest “win button” hammers in the game if you compare the weapons with and without it

[safe geyser]

was poseidon the old meta before p-array build was discovered?

[sour widget]

For skull? Hell no

Poseidon has never been skull meta

Aside from ocean swell and hydraulic might

[nova crater]

did a dream dive. i havent played h2 in a bit, i forgot how easy 24f is for me now. either that or dream dives are just easy

scylla was rough though. terrible rng getting scylla in the second region, i mean, could you imagine?

way too hard for region 2 clearly

also the double charyb was funny

[rocky steppe]

Pan was before medea got buffed

[hasty minnow]

first surface is done

[safe geyser]

The homing knives weapon? srsly?

That was actually my favorite weapon in hades 1

A bow that shot a bunch of homing bolts for a special

[pliant tiger]

it's a shell of its former self but still good once u hit the nuts for it

hmmm

[safe geyser]

That weapon exists in hades 1 as well

its a yellow bow

i forgot name

[pliant tiger]

im aware

[safe geyser]

It was hella fun with zeus boon

but zeus boon had internal cooldown which made the bow special only trigger 1-2 lightning strikes

i was PISSED, learned programming just to fix that yes im crazy

[hasty minnow]

zeus can be busted

[safe geyser]

Zeus is extremely busted because you can technically have 2 boons

on your attack/special

[pliant tiger]

wdym can be? he IS busted

[hasty minnow]

these are probably the most random boons

[safe geyser]

Why

[pliant tiger]

he offers blitz which is the best damaging curse in the game, the best ward clearing boon (static), and the best damaging cast in the game (storm ring)

only time you don't want zeus is on charon axe

[hasty minnow]

||just 4 more wins till completion?||

[worldly moat]

this game free as hell icl

i only dropped my dds because i stopped focusing when he was almost dead lol, literally the fight was damagless until then

i do really like the route though it makes me have to gamble a bit on keepsakes and i think thats funny

if it was anything that wasnt UW i think i lose lmfao i gambad that antler hard

67 on this does seem like a goddamn nightmare though lmfao like so many things can go wrong now

you have to be comfy antlering on literally everything while also resetting for ephyra start with half decent jpom hit

[lofty oriole]

Ooo good stuff 👏

[worldly moat]

im debating if i wanna do 65 or not

if i do i think i just spam mel staff my ass is not dealing with circe on this route

[lofty oriole]

Tempted to do it but RNG is such a huge factor in 65s already and adding Dream dive RNG might give me a headache 😂

[worldly moat]

yeahhh boonless thessaly already drove me insane

[lofty oriole]

https://youtu.be/aKSMsWy8ZEw

[worldly moat]

that clear specifically i had selene start and didnt get a boon until 2/3 of the way through it and it was breaker rush

[lofty oriole]

Just uploaded my 62 recently and it was deffo much luckier than yours lol

[worldly moat]

lol i shouldve recorded mine, i need to start just recording all the time when i play this game

[lofty oriole]

Poly 4th region pretty tanky even with Cheir Wantler 😂

[worldly moat]

yeahhhh him r3 for me and i actually had to take time in his fight its crazy

although i do like it, gives the squishier bosses a chance to actually do stuff

i think ill try 65 for a little bit, mel staff at least is consistent and no way am i gonna play a more picky weapon in such a volatile route

[lofty oriole]

You deffo should, especially when you eventually clear that Circe 67 🫢

[worldly moat]

soon

[lofty oriole]

Probably the best bet. Was actually gonna do Circe for my first run but didn’t realise I couldn’t choose my weapon after clicking on Dream dive 😂

[worldly moat]

lmao thankfully i saw everyone else talk about it so i knew i had to setup in the training area 😭

[lofty oriole]

lol

Also if you get Ephyra for region 4, I noticed that Malice in Kind does 25% damage
Was very tempted to Phase Polyph once and then just use all my DDs to clean his health 😂😂

Though idk if it means 25% of his current health total

[neat jewel]

Yeah it's current health

[lofty oriole]

Yikes bullet dodged

Oh yeah @neat jewel have you tried out the new Hel? Kinda cracked 😵‍💫

[neat jewel]

I've seen it but haven't tried it

Hope it works with auto-fire lol

[lofty oriole]

OAttack now only takes 2 of the regular attacks to charge up

Plus I think Kol tested it yesterday, firing rate feels way faster

Both me and Red did a 62 run with Helheim charge and it felt extremely strong 😮

[neat jewel]

Damn even if it still kinda makes you stand still

[lofty oriole]

Yeaaah it still doesn’t let you dash and keep the charge

[neat jewel]

Best attack now Hera?

[lofty oriole]

Just happy it managed to make it to the damage board lol

Wish I got Helheim earlier

[lofty oriole]

Probably keep Hera special and maybe Apollo Atk

OAttack Apollo is huge

[pliant tiger]

my first dream dive attempt ever and its a 62f clear LOL

[lofty oriole]

Ending in Ephyra 👌

[subtle meadow]

holy peak bro and in 16 min….. sorry for playing ur game bro

[pliant tiger]

only took damage in fields cuz i legit was rusty af

[lofty oriole]

Also only 27 damage taken gjgj

Starting fields with Fangs and Menace is kinda rude 💀

[pliant tiger]

lost all gale blocks by the time i got to echo it was madness

[lofty oriole]

Was swarmed with Tempi and Thugs 😭

[pliant tiger]

man if i didnt play so sloppily during first half of fields

[worldly moat]

Lucky ahh run wtf

I get to deal with pos cast circe with no winners circle and you almost get a perfect mel staff build 🥀

[sour widget]

No that was a bug

It stopped when I left on a run and I couldn’t recreate it

[pliant tiger]

unfortunately no vod since im playing on pc and i use obs to record stuff

its fine tho i dont really care

[sour widget]

Unless you mean the oattack being faster. But I assumed you were referring to the bug I got in training grounds

@lofty oriole

[pliant tiger]

bro i legit got epic heph attack as my first boon LOL

from that point i knew i was in for a good time

[worldly moat]

They wanted you to clear it first try huh

I almost did even though the build was ass, take 2 is still nice though

[sour widget]

So this is Helheim with Racing Thoughts, Lavender Dress, and Metallic Droplet

[pliant tiger]

disgusting

[lofty oriole]

Oh ripp

[sour widget]

Yeah the base attack speed being wayyy faster was a total bug

[lofty oriole]

Guess we deluded ourselves into believing it was faster. Especially with OAttack still being faster

[sour widget]

No it genuinely was faster

[rare parcel]

I- ... Wow

[sour widget]

I took video of both

[lofty oriole]

Beautiful

[sour widget]

It was like 50% faster in the training grounds somehow

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1218621088049659930/1493762334622224445/20260414-2358-03.1399015.mp4?ex=69e0ced5&is=69df7d55&hm=758df1e3d2491010a5b19c1bb66419c355638065573585d25bf6e269c2dc9e23&

yeah you see it there

That was with the bug that went away when I left on a run

[old mountain]

What da hel

[sour widget]

I didn’t take a video of it with Valkyrie but it felt like I had like 60% plasma lol

[noble ginkgo]

so, is Hel OP now? do you still take Hera attack?

[sour widget]

Hera special was always the play

Hera attack isn’t really that useful on anyfear but very good on high fear

Hel isn’t OP now it just actually feels like a weapon

[noble ginkgo]

idk, when I played Hel for the prophecy/cheevo the Hera attack would just delete whole rooms

it bounces between all the enemies applying hitch then kills them all

[lofty oriole]

Yeah it doesn’t feel as clunky to use anymore. Heck even 62 is a fun experience now that OAttack is an actual option now

Try it out with Helheim charge and Apollo Atk

[neat jewel]

Going from losing 4 DDs to Scylla and Typhon to taking no damage from Eris and Polyphemus is too funny lol

[pliant tiger]

and then an uw clear the attempt after this

time for surface and (hopefully) get the worlds first dream dive, uw and surface 62f clears back to back

[sour widget]

That’s the special

Not the attack

[noble ginkgo]

wait, which one is the big skull, which one is the machinegun

been playing too much Hades 1, thought it was like Rama lol

[sour widget]

Attack is the normal shots

Special throws the skull

[noble ginkgo]

oh I see, yeah the attack was pretty weak when I played, but the big skull was sick

[sour widget]

It was good with Poseidon with a good roll

[noble ginkgo]

I remember one shotting the root boss in Erebus with it, blew me away

[sour widget]

Cause it had the fire rate but low base damage

Special is great for applying curses but attack needed Poseidon, Heph, or Zeus

But Poseidon was the main one cause with a solid roll on attack you’d triple your base attack damage and give it AOE

[noble ginkgo]

I think the Chaos trial demo for this aspect starts you with Demeter special and Hestia attack

so that's kinda how they want you to play it

[sour widget]

NO

You outpace scorch basically instantly

So you’re just stuck to scorch rate and hoping you get pyro

Poseidon with froth is WAYYYY stronger

[noble ginkgo]

so poseidon attack, hera special? okay then

[sour widget]

Zeus or ares is also solid

On special

But if you’re going for Helheim then go all in on %

[neat jewel]

Yeah peak Hestia attack is probably better than Poseidon but it's gonna be a slower start

[sour widget]

Though Poseidon is still VERY strong even with Helheim

[sour widget]

No it isn’t

Valk outpaces it and you also don’t get froth

Valk fire rate is about 6.5/s

So even just a common jpom hestia attack outpaces epic pyro

[neat jewel]

Oh yeah I don't use Valkyrie so that's probably why I think that

But also I did use Poseidon more than Hestia on Hel

[sour widget]

Yeah the boss damage if you go valk is to throw the valk at a 45 degree angle so it circles the boss and hits every hit on them with twisting crash

Then just lay into them with attack

But Helheim is so much stronger now IF you hit the build

Apollo attack goes crazy

[noble ginkgo]

oh man, I kinda want to play Hel now, tired of Medea

[sour widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1493317393433235576/1493799726246662235/Hades_II_-_2026-04-14_9-26-30_PM.mp4?ex=69e048e8&is=69def768&hm=cba9986fa7abaf49823aead7f1b63d66acd78f3d0c2b84d9c3e957f19c88322e&

It’s fun

[pliant tiger]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOLY CRAP DUDE WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

WORLDS FIRST 62F DREAM DIVE, UNDERWORLD AND SURFACE CLEARS BACK TO BACK BABY

[neat jewel]

388k 👀

No resets? Or with seed resets

[pliant tiger]

no resets at all

[neat jewel]

Exceptional Talent too?

[sour widget]

Yup

Let me grab build screenshot one second

[pliant tiger]

my dumbass accidentally pinned self healing instead of apollo special lmao

[sour widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1493317393433235576/1493797386752102521/image.png?ex=69e0ef7a&is=69df9dfa&hm=b352a8c1d5f6bc4428bc4247c9f41e2d62abbf53f56da8b0dd777779f875b897&

If only they didn’t remove overkill damage from the game

I’d have had crazy numbers on Oattack

But I didn’t get ET until final shop sadly

[neat jewel]

Holy Slow Cooker

[sour widget]

Yeah slow cooker and hydraulic cooked

[rare parcel]

Heartthrobs on the board, somehow

[willow quest]

sorry for using the wrong channel but are these like the statues in hades 1 that you would unlock for heat?

cause i beat 16 fear and i didnt unlock any but maybe the threshold is higher now

[eager pendant]

My 1st win on new mode. :D

[willow quest]

holy polska

[eager pendant]

Tak, teraz jest inaczej niż w jedynce. Musisz zrobić 16 podziemi i chyba 8/12 powierzchni by się odblokowało.
Na ostatnią 32f podziemia i 24 powierzchnia.
Tak, polska. xD

[rare parcel]

Hehe, Morosa

laughs in Spanish

Also, good job!

[willow quest]

dzk

[signal saddle]

How
Divine vengeance ?

[long violet]

my first 32 😭

[keen plover]

Damn, even the fates are like 'Gurl, thao shalt sleep!'

[spiral crater]

Don't click if you haven't maxed out someone's bond and a keepsake together yet
||The hades and persophene chibi illustration here is so cute omg||

[charred zodiac]

new pb yay! my fig leaf got deleted in tart for some reason tho

[slate cave]

hello, this is my first message here, but i just wanted to say i finally beat chronos for the first time! ^^

[noble ginkgo]

good job, but an attack focused blades build is just making things much harder for yourself
also, it seems like you're not using casts at all
could give some tips if you want

[slate cave]

i am using casts, just paranoid.

but sure.

[noble ginkgo]

the thing about the blades, is that their attack range is point blank and they lock you in the animation, so it's pretty unsafe to spam attacks, most people recommend focusing on the special where you throw the knives, there's also a hammer that makes you automatically throw 3 knives in a fan pattern when you dash strike, it's one of the best for this weapon, it's called "Trick Knives"

also Poseidon is great (maybe the best?) on both attack and special

because the blades innate damage is pretty low and Poseidon adds a lot of flat damage, rather than boosting the innate damage by a percentage

[slate cave]

OK, thank you.

trust i would have gone to poseidon had he shown up this run. 💔
his boons are some of my favourites.

[noble ginkgo]

you can equip his keepsake to force him to appear

[slate cave]

oh, i haven't gotten it yet. 💀

i've been saving my nectar... like it's going out of style...

[noble ginkgo]

oh yeah, one thing I wish I knew when I started
always buy the nectar at the hub shop, it's only 30 bones and it will make your life much easier

they only stock 1 bottle between runs

[slate cave]

lmao yes, dw. i have been doing so. 🙂‍↕️

glad it's a lot cheaper (kind of) than in hades 1.

[eager pendant]

Also cleared 32f after my 2nd try! :3 Not the best time byt hey, clear is still clear, right?
I love supay, despite its mid/non meta place but truth be told - Dio's boon + wispy carried me a lot in term of surivivability. Ik, it is suboptimal to get % boons on supay but still, Hera helped cleared rooms, Zeus did dmg stuff. And Hestia's sprint on supay is my fav.
btw. vor typhoon was A LOT easier than vor Hecate who killed me on my previous run

[slate cave]

i just keep so much of it to give to icarus & i gave one to medea because i forgot i already got her keepsake. 😭

[robust sapphire]

This might be in the top 3 greatest Charon runs I've had

It started with the poseidon cast and became a storm ring one

[trail veldt]

Just became night's champion, it took so long

[sour widget]

We hit the Ares god build aside from not getting profuse until the end and getting attack and not flourish, and it's so funny

[lofty oriole]

Love to see more Soup Ws 👏

[lofty oriole]

Oo nice +6 Geyser spout 👏

[crimson birch]

Died to Scylla 4 the first time, cleared the second time!

I uh... forgot to remove my vow of shadows before jumping in to the dream lol

Also, I did get Cutting Edge, but I'm still a little surprised that casts made it up there. I felt like I was mis-deploying the cast and doing terrible positioning with it the whole time lol.

[eager pendant]

Almost 10 min run. One of the fastest of mine yet not PB. Idk how to do it faster.

[eager pendant]

Yeah, I love supay. Just dash and see colourfull chaos <3
Supay is also the only wep I was able to do 40/42f. </3

[crimson birch]

There's some resources on the Hades 2 page on speedrun.com if you're interested, as well as in its speedrunning Discord. Some of it is just playing gud but some of it is very learnable info about routing etc

[orchid carbon]

Sub 10 surface!!!

[rare parcel]

Omega Attack Hel no longer a meme

[sour widget]

No helheim hurts

But godly build still even without it

Racing thoughts is massive on hel now

[safe geyser]

i just never get the zeus hestia duo boon idk why

[sour widget]

Thermal just doesn’t exist sadly

Every single build I get Zeus Hestia Demeter I never get freezer burn or thermal dynamics

[cursive panther]

Imagine if Dancing Knives

[sour widget]

Dancing knives sucks ass. It’s only good for pan ospec now that it’s been added to that weapon

Genuinely it ruins DPS cause you can’t two-hit on the knives

Literally it is worth never taking Icarus hammer because it can ruin a run instantly

I’ve accidentally gotten dancing knives before and Prometheus took FOREVER because the knives literally do half the damage because of no multi-hit

[rare parcel]

Ohhh timing

[safe geyser]

well i guess this is the weapon ill be killing chronos for good with

fitting tbh, scythe user vs scythe user, and my scythe is that of death itself

[noble ginkgo]

oh he has dialog about that, it's kinda cool, might not play on this run though

[sour widget]

Yeah no dialogue priority

[rare parcel]

"Let's flatten them, witchie"

[rare parcel]

Thanks, Zeus

[analog oasis]

Jpom gives a useless boon for first time ever

Also descended into the Underworld in perfect order 👌

[rotund badger]

I’ve been waiting for someone to get dream dive scammed like that 😄

how amusing

[cursive panther]

I call this the HEL OMEGA ATTACK run (without Apollo Legendary)

[sour widget]

Heroic Racing is massive

[worldly moat]

i read heroic racing as horse racing and was so confused

anyway after my dream dive 65 i really should try out hel again it seems so fun

[late crater]

this was stressful but so FUN

[keen furnace]

The moment

[weary pulsar]

No screenshot but level 60 Storm ring is FUN. Thanks region 4 echo!

[safe geyser]

[rare parcel]

Getting All Together and then King's Ransom after that

[safe geyser]

Poseidon grins when he hears that jetpack roar

[pulsar mirage]

I DID IT!!!!!

[west minnow]

sometimes this game is mean. sometimes i get this BS and steamroll typhon in less than a minute. either way, hes eradicated

-# wait i never even popped a defiance???????????? wtf

[sour widget]

Holy moly brightness

[mellow vine]

I just had my best run of the game yet, which isn't saying much because I've had the game for two days, but still. I beat the snot out of Chronos. It was biblical.

Heroic Volcanic Flourish on a two second cooldown. Basically a guaranteed 500 damage at least every two seconds, and then the Evil Eye bumped that up, and then casts bumped that up, and I also had Total Eclipse. It was really, really satisfying.

[spiral crater]

9 more keepsakes left to max
And ofcourse alot of bonds

[rough mica]

finished the story quest

um whtas the 0 fear world record like

[rocky steppe]

for speed?

[rough mica]

time

[rocky steppe]

around 5 minutes irc

[rough mica]

thats fast

[rocky steppe]

yeah 11 is quite slow

[rough mica]

im happy about it

as i said just completed the story quest,making the dissolution of time thingie then beating chronos

maybe 50 ish night

[pine apex]

first try dream clear! kinda proud of this one considering I didn't even know what I was getting into when interacting with the Hypnos thing (also I only had 3 rivals so the final boss was a very easy Hecate who nevertheless hits MUCH harder than usual)

[noble ginkgo]

good job, try the Hel aspect as well, they buffed it a lot this patch

[pine apex]

oh yeah I used to never take that omega ATK hel hammer thing but now I defnitely well X)

[late pewter]

Just beat vow of rivals Chronos as the first region of a ||dream dive|| with only 2 boons. 30 HP left but felt good !

[noble ginkgo]

damn, you're cooking

[neat jewel]

R2 Chronos is kind of a joke, but especially when you get Heaven Strike + Dual Moonshot + Blinding Rush in the shop right before him

[sour widget]

If we’re talking any-fear and not 0 fear the UW is 3:54 and Surface is 4:45

0 fear turns off frenzy 2 and like… that literally just makes the whole run arbitrarily slower

If you are doing speedrunning you always turn on frenzy 2 no matter what

It saves probably over a minute during a run

[keen furnace]

Make the room splash

[neon grail]

made it. my first 62f dream dive

[neat jewel]

Wow Scylla last is terrifying

[pliant tiger]

new uw time pb

still not a 4:3x so aint satisfied

splits: 1:36 / 2:23 / 3:26 / 4:22 / 4:47

[mild grail]

Run 22 and 23 first win and 2 in a row

[pliant tiger]

if i got arty, didnt get narc midshop room conflict, or had actuallyy gotten a good tart this wouldve been 4:3x guaranteed on my life

[obsidian fulcrum]

lol sea star gave me hp overkill 🤣

[neon grail]

It turns into an endurance fight, lasts forever. Luckily Eos is pretty good for that fight

[pliant tiger]

https://youtu.be/1GLhuy05asw

[rough mica]

That makes sense

[willow quest]

first 32 heat clear, it was SO much easier than in hades 1

[rocky steppe]

Glad I could help

[lean rivet]

good job

now do 50

[willow quest]

i will tomorrow

[analog oasis]

50 wasn't so bad.

Here's the vows I did for anyone interested in 50

Didn't appreciate super Typhon though

[rotund badger]

super typhon?

you just mean rivals?

[analog oasis]

No, super. He's severely buffed after r2 in Dream Dives

[rotund badger]

oh!!

why? he’s an R4 boss, why is he buffed in R3/4?

[analog oasis]

Dream Dives gives buffs and speed bonuses to bosses as you go deeper in the run.

Even without Fear

[sour widget]

Dream dives buffed UW across the board and nerfed surface across the board

R2 Scylla got a 25% damage and health buff

While R2 Eris got a 20% nerf

[neat jewel]

Yeah according to the data Typhon is nerfed even if you get him R4

[rotund badger]

oh!

[safe geyser]

@sour widget@rocky steppe
how does this work? coat dash attack hits 3 times by default
does the hammer make coat dash attacks hit 6 times instead of 3 times or 12 times instead of 3 times?

[sour widget]

It hits 6 times

[rotund badger]

huhh, i didn’t notice that part of the patch notes, I’ll go back and reread. thanks!

[safe geyser]

thats trash 🥀

[sour widget]

It's a pure double damage multiplicative buff

[analog oasis]

Its not there, it was datamined

[sour widget]

Bro that's literally the best damn hammer

WTF are you saying bro

[rotund badger]

Ah thanks!

[safe geyser]

i was hoping +3 times as in +3 instances of triple hits

[sour widget]

Don't mention the datamining

[analog oasis]

Ooh

My bad

[sour widget]

MULTIPLICATIVE BUFF TO YOUR BEST SOURCE OF DAMAGE

[safe geyser]

I KNOOW

but its not as good as i imagined

i thought it was 3x4 not 3+3 hits

[analog oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-this-dude-who-is-this-thumb-no-way-gif-10938562968321066897

[pliant tiger]

https://giphy.com/gifs/graggletwo-homelander-meme-what-is-he-talking-about-7DbgjlgPaqkxoX4fOy

[rare parcel]

Shimmering Rockets would be a close contender for best hammer imo

[crimson birch]

They can duke it out

Or they can make out

Best Hammers Forever 🤝

[safe geyser]

bro thinks he's a sly parent, lying to his daughter like that

this ''small token'' is the most overpowered item in the entire game

[nova crater]

i think this may be one of the worst arrangements of regions in a dream dive just fun-wise

"basically the hard stuff in uw plus the bad surface areas"

[crimson birch]

Is that Thessaly/Oceanus/Summit/Tartarus?

[nova crater]

mhm

i brought calling card for region 3

[crimson birch]

Oh no........

[nova crater]

which uh... then i got summit and tartarus

and tartarus had ZERO side rooms, is that normal in dream dives

ive literally never seen a zero sideroom tartarus before

[crimson birch]

I've been under the impression that Tartarus siderooms existing depends on which maps you roll

Are there at least five main-path Tartarus maps that only have one exit?

[nova crater]

and i got all of them

[crimson birch]

You ever get some RNG that makes you think "this would have been sick as hell if I were better at the game"

(Yes the Rousing Reception was early Erebus, no I did not manage to pull it off a single time in the Hecate fight 😆 )

[wet dagger]

I almost felt bad for Typhon there... I had no idea Shiva's aspect could get so OP 😄

[worldly moat]

damn and here i thought you wouldnt be able to roll tart and summit cuz old grudge and dissent are one use things

[rare parcel]

Actually, Deep Dissent is not one use. I've got both Typhon and Chronos, and it affected both of them

[analog oasis]

Same here!

[true remnant]

Got my first win yey

[winter basalt]

First time getting Paid Dues! 💰
Made it to Grandpa with about 300 gold. Would've been 800 but I decided to make a purchase at the final shop

[marsh condor]

phew that was a close one

[coral hamlet]

barely cleared

[rare parcel]

Ok, yeah, Ares legendary is strong now, and Profuse Bleeding is very fun

[noble ginkgo]

war daddy is strong again

[olive vigil]

The Ares dream, yet my second boon being high surf outperformed it lol

first boon being storm ring was nice, I phased chronos every time I got the Venn diagram of death lol

[umbral violet]

2nd try
(died on the first one because the game made me face buffed super chronos on my last region)

[olive vigil]

Clutch Circe giving me defiances saved my bacon

[lean rivet]

yay (3/24)

[nova crater]

Ya that happened for me kinda funny

[cursive panther]

Moros plus Ares is SUCH A DISGUSTING COMBO HOLY

all that I was missing however is Ares' legendary

[analog oasis]

I attempted a speedrun. First attempt at this so bear with me...

Never got PArray

[rare parcel]

Certainly a run

[gilded ravine]

grisly gaming!
my thoughts on dream is that it is simply not built for 62 fear, region rng + grit scaling is egregious, i think 50f with no grit/hordes will be more comfortable (this run happened to also drop return and forfeit)

[olive vigil]

How can a build be so cracked and yet so dumb

Also had success rate and lethal snare it was a crit machine

[west minnow]

i call this one the Cheese Grater

[rocky steppe]

One of the strongest coat hammers btw

Up there with shimmering

[feral glen]

21 (18 going down) runs later I beat Chronos for the 1st time. I know it's not a boast but I was wondering if I could share my results here?

[neat jewel]

This is indeed the oversharing all your accomplishments channel

[feral glen]

The results of my 1st completed run going down.

[olive vigil]

thicc

[coral hamlet]

Yay my first rivals typhon clear.

[sour widget]

We face tanking rivals typhon cause psychic nergal with dashing heave. Pretty bad region layout

[rare parcel]

Hostile Environment Charon with Meat Grinder is funny, Meat Grinder follows you even if the cast was triggered nowhere near you lmao

[blissful magnet]

Persephone is so cool

[heady olive]

First 40 fear clear

My preferred fear setup is kind of weird. I like to use rivals 4 / frenzy 0 / pain 0, and to get the last few fear points I turned on void 3 and used judgement.

[rotund badger]

man, that is really weird 😄

show the whole fear screen, wouldja?

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMCwwLDAsMCwzLDIsNSwxLDIsMiwzLDYsMCwyLDIsMTJd

This is about how I'd get 40 fear

[rocky steppe]

What

[rocky steppe]

Also a wild setup

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMCwwLDYsMCwxLDAsNSwyLDIsMiwwLDYsMCwyLDIsMTJd

I did this for 40f all aspects both routes

[rotund badger]

hm, did I not put frenzy on there? whoops

shows what I'm talking about 🤦‍♀️

[rocky steppe]

I was gonna say lmaoooo

[rotund badger]

oh i got thrown off my game and did a halfway between "something I'd do if I wasn't doing frenzy" and my actual setup, because of the original context

[olive vigil]

Rivals 4 Hecate is terrifying

Comical slow cooker saves the day

[rocky steppe]

The speed buff is horrific

[olive vigil]

Like deadass that’s a sweatier fight than rivals Typhon sometimes

Polyphemus isn’t nearly that spicy

Frenzy 67

[true remnant]

Second down clear ever

[thick yoke]

Congrats!

[pine apex]

behold my greatest hades 2 victory thus far. getting night's champion nor full achievements has filled me with this much relief. my toil is finally over. I didn't even pick up the dice in my excitement

[pliant tiger]

aight new uw time pb yet again featuring yet another narc midshop room conflict, 2-2 fields with thorn circle and no origination

[true remnant]

Hmm maybe don’t take expiring chaos right before ur first time fighting rivals hecate

[sour widget]

Yeahhhh until you learn her she’s a pain. Like 80% of high fear underworld runs lose to vow of time while fighting her

And then most of those that get past her die to rivals Scylla

Early game underworld on high fear is brutal

Also FYI if you’re gonna run no-gain and just play the attack you really should use an omega so you can activate huntress arcana

It’s a free 50% damage bonus to attack and special when not at 100% magick

It’s super free to activate if you ever have downtime in an encounter

[true remnant]

Smart
I had thought it actually was based on if your max magick is over 100

[pliant tiger]

https://youtu.be/rQJZiituIFs

[sour widget]

Nah if you have even 1 point of magick missing it will activate huntress

Regardless of your total magick

Also primed magick doesn’t count so if you prime too much magick to be able to activate omegas then you can’t activate huntress

If I only have 14 total magick after priming and my omegas cost 15 minimum then I can’t activate huntress

[mellow vine]

I really had to lock in for my "dressed to kill" trophy, but I overcame my mediocre skills as a gamer for the love of Arachne.

[neat jewel]

Coat gang baby let's go, Selene next (I would rather die)?

My first 65f clear to never go over timer lmao

[pliant tiger]

holy nuts hit

wheres the 67f clear incoming

[neat jewel]

3/4 same core boons and 2/2 same hammers as my Nyx 65 lol

#justhit

[lofty oriole]

Wooooo gratz

We love to see Shimmering hitchslop 💛

[lofty oriole]

Funnily enough I think the other 65 Mel coats went over the time limit. So if you post this vod you’d have the fastest 65 Mel coat on crossroads 😂

[neat jewel]

They should've simply gotten Shimmering Hereditary Flourish smh

Wait why tf is there a 64f clear on crossroads lmao

Death + Artificer + Excellence

[worldly moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/912456622440325213/1494687251886510200/image.png?ex=69e3837a&is=69e231fa&hm=d0dd63a51601b42285445c11a8b4ee9359a8bd3b450a364846cf7eca56445978&
evil ahh r2

yk actually i had a minute left and was close to baby mode, just i died because he decided to ohko on the other side of the map

so sumit r2 isnt all that bad

[naive shoal]

I forgot how funny this weapon aspect was, literally just vampire survivors lmao

[lofty oriole]

Probably the best description of Soup aspect lmao 😂

Just run 🫢

[naive shoal]

also doing summit as the first region meant I fought typhon with three entire boons and it was,,, actually not too bad

[neat jewel]

Yeah Summit downscaling is pretty good, only gets tough with Forfeit

[rare parcel]

Scylla is missing for the full Vampire Survivors experience

✅ auto-fire
✅ not having an idea of what's happening on screen

[marsh condor]

0 boon vs rivals typhon on pain 3 sounds splendid

[noble ginkgo]

Sisyphus' keepsake would've been goated for these dream runs

[marsh condor]

i didnt play h1

[lofty oriole]

It’s kinda like Danaid

[noble ginkgo]

+100% attack/special/cast damage if you don't have a boon in that slot

[marsh condor]

ayeeee
thats op

[slate cave]

hello, everyone. please look at this clear time.

[olive vigil]

based

[thorn wolf]

okay no one else react

oh wait it would've been better if there were only 2 reacts on the 2s and 4 reacts on the 4s

[simple cypress]

do 676767 next

[pliant tiger]

67 minutes 67 seconds ah yes

[cursive panther]

Funny timer I remember getting 13:13.13

[coral hamlet]

696969

[simple cypress]

yes, do that

maybe not in a normal run, but i think its pretty realistic if you subject yourself to dodging a boss for like an hour straight for practice

[neat jewel]

Would just be 70:09:69 lol

[simple cypress]

why does time suck

[neat jewel]

Take that issue up with gramps

[hot hedge]

I lived on 7 hp on 32 fear

Blackened fleece at +180%

[neat jewel]

Fleece does not get additional damage boosts from more damage taken

[slate cave]

imagine a run taking you over an hour.

[slate cave]

based.

[neat jewel]

Toula-only surface run by Omen took 144 minutes lol

[slate cave]

omg. 😭

[pliant tiger]

you just gave me an amazing idea

[neat jewel]

Hopefully Mini doesn't see this lol

We do NOT want Toula in the next bingo

[dim forum]

I want someone to do a Frinos only run with no witch’s delights /s

[late crater]

sanguinary savor is SO good with the new patch

[slate cave]

got chronos' ass again.

get good, scrub. /j

also PB in 22 minutes.

[nova crater]

Next stop sub 5

[slate cave]

speedrunning is hard for me but I wanna give it a shot.

[rotund badger]

speaking of, is there a resource for how to get into it?

I could probably stand to learn some of the basics to cut down on the time risk for my high-fear clears, timing out is a big worry for me 😄

[late crater]

oh boy this hel run actually cooked

[rare parcel]

Thank you very much

[pliant tiger]

yo data mined stuff isn't allowed here in this serv

[pliant tiger]

boated posted a speedrunning guide like a few months ago

im too lazy to get it just find it

[rotund badger]

rad, thanks!

[coral hamlet]

Good news guys, Two RTyphons down in a row, it's getting better.

[pliant tiger]

OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL WHAT IN THE ACTUAL HELL DID I JUST DO OH MY GOD BABY LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[rotund hamlet]

wasn't even close too

[rotund badger]

Is that a surface WR by like 30 seconds?

[pliant tiger]

vod with commentary coming soon

[pliant tiger]

bro thats uw

https://giphy.com/gifs/DYC4Ako9o16854pPyO

[rotund badger]

deep sigh

[opal wedge]

what's special, is this like a record?

[rotund badger]

whoops 😭

I have genuinely no idea why I looked at that and thought it was surface. Pain.

[rotund hamlet]

will you use this time in bingo 👀

[pliant tiger]

this run will place me as top 5 in the world on speedrun.com

[opal wedge]

but it's only 14 fear; is that its own category or does fear somehow doesn't matter?

[thorn wolf]

frenzy2 + shadow

[pliant tiger]

time is purely for aesthetics

[thorn wolf]

frenzy2 means enemies spawn faster, shadow makes one miniboss quicker

and yeah timer 3 because why not

[pliant tiger]

splits: 1:41 / 2:11 / 3:15 / 3:56 / 4:19

[rotund hamlet]

so why was this so much faster then your pb the other day

[pliant tiger]

i have no clue

maybe its cuz i hit a 20 second oceanus idk

but i didnt get arty, didnt get 2-2 fields, and i didnt get room 1 tart fig

so run couldve been way faster but i dont care

[rotund hamlet]

yea its a crazy improvement so quick

[pliant tiger]

and yes this will be used as a run for all weapons uw

[analog oasis]

Surface looks a lot like UW after Chronos attacked it huh?

[opal wedge]

what is this broken build OMG, toooo top, fire and ice

[gilded ravine]

we go zoom

[bitter hamlet]

First ever completion im happyy

[fervent hamlet]

Amazing

[robust sapphire]

Cast goes brr (+air quality)

I might be mistaken but I felt like Poseidon gave me heroic sea star right away. Is that a thing?

[rare parcel]

Did you see a dialog where he mentioned Mel seems to like Sea Star a lot? That's a new thing of this update lol

A one time things, I suppose

[robust sapphire]

I think so, yeah. Neat lol

[noble ginkgo]

curious, I also just finished a Circe run

[lean rivet]

(4/24)

[drifting fractal]

First time fighting ||Unrivaled Typhon||

[analog oasis]

Congratulations 🎉

[safe geyser]

since when does this go up to 28%? i swear i remember it being 20

[lofty oriole]

success rate

20% x 1.4 since it's Rare

[safe geyser]

ohhhh thank you

How OP is this hammer combo?

[neat jewel]

It's funny but the chop is hard to do safely all the time

[safe geyser]

this build was a lot weaker than i thought it would be

[rocky steppe]

Yeah splitter is quite ass

[safe geyser]

i totally expected apollo legendary to work with with the chop since it now costs magick

it would just make sense

but no the devs did not think of that synergy unfortunately

[rocky steppe]

Why?

It's not an omega move

[safe geyser]

yeah i guess

but it would've been so fun if it was all magick costing abilities instead of just omega moves

[rocky steppe]

It'd would be way too strong/unbalanced in a bad way

[lean rivet]

we really live in a world where hel oattack tops the dmg charts huh (5/24)

[safe geyser]

i need to try this with the apollo legendary

you should try hera special @lean rivet its by far the best special for hel

literally a match made in heaven those two

[rocky steppe]

They know how to play the game lol

[safe geyser]

for me, this is the most unfun thing about not playing a video game when its brand new.
its because condescending know-it-all pricks like you start existing to make new players feel inferior every time we interact with its community.

whats wrong with me sharing some knowledge from my personal experience with a guy? even if he has thousands of hours in the game the possibility of him not knowing how good hera special is with hel skull is still there and i enjoy sharing discoveries with people even if the game is old asf and everyone has 3000 hours and knows everything i know multiplied by 10 already

[rocky steppe]

[analog oasis]

Sworn Strike is likely the best Hitch in the game tbh

All my 67s used it

Same with Hel id assume but I'm poor at Hel Skull

[lean rivet]

yeah unfortunately couldn't get her in the pool

[safe geyser]

hel special is more than good enough hitch applier its pretty much always guaranteed to hit everything in the room at least once

i prefer putting high dmg boons on hell attack like zeus attack with hestia duo

[neat jewel]

Yeah Zeus Hestia Poseidon are probably the best attack boons on Hel if you're not using the new Omega

[safe geyser]

poseidon is absolutely goated on high RPM weapons but i personally didnt really like it on hel skull specifically because its range is really really short for a ranged weapon, probably the shortest in the game

its range is so short that you have to stand at point blank range with cerberus otherwise the projectile just doesnt travel far enough to reach his hitbox lol

and this is a bigger issue while clearing rooms because the knockback of poseidon waves (completely unncessary feature btw idk why thats in the game) will push enemies out of the skulls hitbox so you constantly have to dash in aggressively to stay within range

[rocky steppe]

That is the point of poseidon waves

Big aoe splash on hit damage

I remember h1 were pos waves used to knock back whoever you were hitting too

[safe geyser]

the big aoe splash is great for room clearing and the flat on-hit damage is why its my favorite in the game
but the knockback is purely a con

it is NOT good

i hate it when my hits practically make the enemy dash away from me and out of my attack range

[rocky steppe]

It is actually quite good lmao, keeps alot of annoying enemies off you

[safe geyser]

whats the point of pushing them away if your gonna have to stay on top of them anyway to do dmg

you're gonna have to run back to them after pushing them away to continue doing dmg with daggers for example

or coat or any melee weapon that isnt axe

[rocky steppe]

The melee weapons are fast, and you end up chasing enemies down anyway

[safe geyser]

yeah we end up chasing them down anyway ofcourse
but that whole process of pushing them away just so you have to chase them down again is completely unnecessary

[rocky steppe]

Because fighting three armoured enemies at once is worse than fighting one

[rocky steppe]

You're missing the point of the effect entirely, and besides it also balances out the damage somewhat

[safe geyser]

trust me almost nobody takes poseidon boons for the knockback, that effect is purely a downside

[sour widget]

Charon gaming

[rocky steppe]

It's not even like they're getting sent to narnia, rooms aren't that big (except fields)

[rocky steppe]

I do lmfao, high surf is also a really good safety pick

[safe geyser]

but its still annoying, you still cant hit an enemy more than 2-3 times before they practically run away from you with all that knockback

[rocky steppe]

The enemy you are hitting doesn't take knockback

[rocky steppe]

Lunar Ray spotted, respect halved :P

[safe geyser]

oh wait what fr?

[rocky steppe]

[sour widget]

The self-firing beam is amazing and I just got the godsent

It's free damage

[safe geyser]

maybe because i was hitting multiple enemies at once they knock eachother back

like the wave aoes intertwine

[rocky steppe]

😒

Stop having fun

[sour widget]

No

[safe geyser]

the only hex i really like is the polymorph
turns elite fights and most hard stages into a joke

[rocky steppe]

Nice charon build tho, good time too

[rocky steppe]

Twilight curse, yes

[sour widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1493061989394682037/1494596507695845497/image.png?ex=69e3d7b7&is=69e28637&hm=f707820aa49ed7533b2c14b97712b9edac3d88850e4a14cc4707a6b18cfbb7d5&

Lunar ray maxxing

[safe geyser]

its just so good being able to technically CC a whole herd of elites for 5 hours turning them into sitting ducks

[sour widget]

All vanilla with maximizing farming

Getting over a million damage vanilla is an insane feeling

[rocky steppe]

No antler?

[sour widget]

Nah cause more unsafe for farming and I'm already getting nearly guaranteed crits

[rocky steppe]

Grit 3, hordes 3, every possible combat room?

[safe geyser]

i think the dmg up from hercules keepsake is multiplicative

[sour widget]

So wards count to damage on the board up to a single hit not exceeding the enemy's max health

So if you land a 1000 damage hit on a 700 health enemy and a ward eats it then it counts for 700 damage on the damage board

[safe geyser]

LOOK AT HIS HP
bro would've died for sure with antler

[sour widget]

I was hitting enemies for like 6000 damage on my first hits with double crit

[sour widget]

Mutual destruction maxxing

[safe geyser]

true true that thing is cracked

[rocky steppe]

Wouldn't have taken that damage with antler

[sour widget]

Oh hey look a build that can activate origination

[safe geyser]

i think the dmg up from hercules keepsake is multiplicative right? meaning it amplifies final dmg instead of just adding a mediocre dmg boost to already high dmg% stat

[rocky steppe]

Couldn't tell you

[safe geyser]

he was already getting 30%+ crit rate from mutual destruction

so antler is just redundant

[rocky steppe]

Antler crit is different to mutual

[safe geyser]

what?

[rocky steppe]

It's 3x damage, mutual is 2x

[safe geyser]

ok it makes sense that the goddess of crit would provide a superior crit effect than a jack of all trades god like ares

[sour widget]

Mutual/grievous and normal crit stack

Normal crit and mutual can stack for 6x damage multiplicative

If both manage to land on the same hit

[safe geyser]

artemis has a passive that applies a random mark to a random enemy on the field

[sour widget]

Yeah death warrant

[safe geyser]

and if you crit the marked enemies it reapplies the mark

does the reset mechanic work on the same enemy if there is only 1 enemy on the screen?

[sour widget]

It can spread to multiple enemies yeah it's nice but does disappear if a wave requires all enemies to die before spawning next wave

[sour widget]

It stays on an enemy

It's a 6 second curse not a one-time crit if I'm correct

[safe geyser]

that is so much stronger than i thought

[sour widget]

Yeah it's good on hordes

[safe geyser]

i thought it was overly balanced
one time crit then the curse expires

[sour widget]

Especially if you have a weapon with a lot of hits

Nah it sticks around afterwards so if you're luck enough it can apply to a full room

[safe geyser]

i will always prefer support fire on a weapon with a lot of hits
double attack speed is simply way more fun

[worldly moat]

No its additive

Goes on the same % stack as origination and whatnot

[sour widget]

Yeah fang is considerably weaker than wantler but it's the best option if you're not confident going low-hit

[safe geyser]

ok never using hercules keepsake ever then

[worldly moat]

But its still an extra 50% global so :P and by the time you get to the final boss its like 25% which is still really good

Its better than any other non antler damage keepsake

[safe geyser]

i prefer the 100% of artemis
or just tooth is infinitely more valuable

[sour widget]

I was a bit early with the lunar ray but it's fine

[worldly moat]

Pin is better than tooth tbf but yeah

[safe geyser]

Pin sucks with strength and high hp

[sour widget]

So does tooth

[worldly moat]

So does tooth

[safe geyser]

why

[sour widget]

Cause it's a death defiance lol...

[safe geyser]

tooth is a death defiance?!

[worldly moat]

Its a dd, pin is stubborn defiance

[sour widget]

Yes and it can be refreshed after being lost

It counts as a DD slot

Same as toula

[safe geyser]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH this is a misunderstanding chat sorry
i meant the bag of teeth from odysseus

not the skeleton keepsake

[sour widget]

Knuckle Bones

Those aren't even teeth

It's in the name what they are

[safe geyser]

they look like a bag of teeth in the picture xd

[worldly moat]

Oooohhh ok yeah thats fine, better spent on olympus champs but it does phase typhon quick

R4 keepsake takes for high fear players ends up being fang, pin, or antler like 99% of the time

[sour widget]

Yeah KB + hitch and hered bane with cherished heirloom instantly hits heracles for half his health

[safe geyser]

the damage reduction from knuckle bones is extremely strong with strength and aphrodite gain like omg you barely take dmg anymore 💀

a hit that would normally do 20 dmg only does ~4 and with high hp its guaranteed win

could even survive a chronos one shot attack

[true remnant]

Roomwide aphrodite gain kind of funny

So are two 1.1k omega attacks whenever hex is up

[analog oasis]

How did you not know

[worldly moat]

they were talking about knuckle bones lol

[sour widget]

Yeah they had the keepsake names wrong

[winter basalt]

first Typhon after rolling credits
Infusions go brrr

[olive vigil]

thicc thicc thicc

thicc af ares dream (didn’t get legendary but didn’t need it)

[novel shoal]

I finally beat Chronos

[digital surge]

It do be annoying when you accidentally beat the final boss on the first time you reach them and after that you die multiple times-

Yes I'm fine actually shaking even after I got off the game

I switched to the embryo thinking I'll get lucky with the boon... I did not

[cunning hatch]

twelve health 😭

holy

[digital surge]

At least for chronos I had a death defiance

Typhon whooped my ass with those orbs

[cunning hatch]

honestly not bad at all, for your first time seeing typhon and for basically not having a keepsake. noticing both wins were with melinoe skull, goated weapon

[digital surge]

The instant recall is amazing ok? Basically a minigun

Just need the shotgun blast with it and I have an auto shotgun

[rocky steppe]

Just note that wide grin does not gain the buff from mel skull

[digital surge]

Wide grin?

[rocky steppe]

The shotgun blast hammer

[digital surge]

Ohhhhhh yeah I know

[signal saddle]

Got my first win with Medea after ~95 runs
I think I just despise that weapon 😭 Sorry to the meta

[sour widget]

It is very hard to pick up a weapon whose whole philosophy is "ram your face into enemies who are trying to hit you"

It took me a while to learn it and I'm still barely comfortable with it with fear added

[signal saddle]

Yeah it felt like it was busted against classic encounters, especially with strength giving more value to the healing, but the guardians were hitting hard

I did pick wide grin in the fields, it made guardians a bit easier but ennemy encounters harder

[worldly moat]

wide grin ruins medea lol its a hard skip hammer

since your main rhythm is tap attack once then special since thatll just be faster and more efficient

[gilded ravine]

zoom

[tame fog]

right you took more damage from traps than typhon

[sour widget]

Yeah summit and ephyra will do that with the eggs and exploding barrels

[icy tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348151957111701517/1494981387864772790/image.png?ex=69e4956a&is=69e343ea&hm=707940a747713f504b93edca346ebd12e8c40b4409e0418be92fcd4880e79a2c&

First under 10 min run!

[marsh condor]

really satisfying parray spam onto typhon
Also closest to 100k ive gotten lol

[neat jewel]

Join the Bingo15 grind lmao

[marsh condor]

nah, i gotta polish up mah skills first
All aspects 32-40-50
55-62 f clears
Ff clear
Ima try to take sum squares next bingo

[neat jewel]

If you get all aspects 50 you will be a better all-around player than me

I will never touch Thanatos and Shiva

[marsh condor]

its still VERY FAR from being possible for me lol
Working on 32s rn

[marsh condor]

Ima just play shiva like normal coat

[neat jewel]

If only I could, the dash-strike and special are too different for me to do so

[marsh condor]

o its different?
Rip my strat

ik specs
But not dash strike

[neat jewel]

Yeah dash-strike is a slow 1 hit instead of a fast 3 hits, special is a bouncing orb instead of seeking rockets

[marsh condor]

yikes

[lofty oriole]

It’s doable but not entirely the same thanks to the slow and weak dash attack 😭

Regular Atk is pretty good and can do a lot of dmg tho

[pliant tiger]

aight finished vod shall be ready in about 30 minutes

[sour widget]

Yeah it's really weird getting used to using special to cancel your dash and then not attacking too early and getting an accidental dash attack

Also the thing of dashing before the third normal attack

[olive tundra]

im goat

[sour widget]

Siege frame apollo is pretty great. Watched Vytautas' 67F Shiva and it was doing work (granted gig dash also used to stagger back then and not get removed by losing fates whim but still amazing work)

[pliant tiger]

https://youtu.be/SlHgxdE8E0U

VOD IS HERE

[lofty oriole]

Love how I’m credited for essentially doing nothing. You should’ve just voiced it all lol 😂

Happy to provide silly British voice tho 👌

[pliant tiger]

nah u did something

[neat jewel]

Oh damn double voice reveal let's go

Wait why are you guys speaking in first person lmao

YURI LEX ROOM LET'S GO

[pliant tiger]

sesbian lex comes for us all

[neat jewel]

Lol I didn't finish the last commentary video so I got jumpscared by the Truman Show reference at the end

[pliant tiger]

elite ball knowledge holyyy

[marsh condor]

hordes 3 dmgless

(i meant to put on another vow but misclicked, didnt realise until end screen)

[spiral crater]

One of my best aspect of circe builds ever and best pb on surface aswell
(Ignore the fear I was just doing it to beat Prometheus rival for the first time)

[plain carbon]

One of my proudest wins in the new update so far

[noble ginkgo]

Medea doesn't cook at all against Frenzy Typhon, took so much damage

[pliant tiger]

https://giphy.com/gifs/know-does-he-XAeEGyCbp8UehBPkSA

[lofty oriole]

I should've been more sarcastic lmao

But yes we stan the sesbian lex skip room 👏

[pliant tiger]

main lesson to take away from my 4:19 is

sesbian lex is the best

[noble ginkgo]

This video contains content from UMG and WMG, one or more of whom have blocked it in your country on copyright grounds
RIP

[pliant tiger]

oh yeah that reminds me

ill be posting a musicless vod and a one with no commentary and music

stay tuned

[sour widget]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-strife-tifa-lockhart-aerith-gainsborough-cloti-gif-27060423

[ornate tendon]

First kill on PS5. Death to Chronos.

[lofty oriole]

Then do a vod with just you voicing

Milk out as much content as you can

[pliant tiger]

hell nah

my names not disney

[vocal sorrel]

Nice

[robust sapphire]

It was slow to get this build together, but it was insane when I did

I love the new winner's circle

Your anvils hit 70% faster, which is I guess every ~0.6 seconds unless it's capped

I had rallying cry too but fell one short of earth to activate it

[neat jewel]

Oh it actually makes it go faster huh? I thought since Winner's Circle worked well with Anvil Ring before anyway they wouldn't change it

But that makes sense I guess

[robust sapphire]

It definitely felt faster

[worldly moat]

yeah every cast does the same damage it does without winners but faster now

so winners is an auto take on circe icl

it makes zeus even faster than before 😭

[robust sapphire]

I already liked it before, even if you don't do omegas much better to reposition it

But now should be insane

[neat jewel]

Worth over Nitro on Circe? Gonna start Circe 65s soon

[robust sapphire]

I think yeah (but I don't do high fear, max 32)

[worldly moat]

not over nitro imo no but its fs a take if you get it without nitro being there

you do get enough hermes in one run though youre basically guaranteed one or the other so :P

although if youre feeling super strong taking it over nitro could be the play

amping your cast speed that much just melts things, even on 67 it was melting things really quick i cant imagine how much it melts with all the arcana bonuses

[robust sapphire]

I had nitro too this run winner's circle is more fun but nitro might be more utility at extreme fear

[worldly moat]

yeah nitro is an auto take at higher fears

my pb for a clear is dream dive 62 and 65s both ways normally, and my 67 pb is 2nd half of p3 gramps so nitro has saved me more than i can count

although using it with intention is the difficult part i need to get better doing that

[pliant tiger]

yo @noble ginkgo this for u https://youtu.be/VVTdu1YQMTI

has no copyrighted music so should be fine to watch

[granite yacht]

I think the most disgusting build i've ever done

[signal saddle]

Oh damn my bad, didn't knew it was such a hard skip
I would not have took it if I had only this Hammer, but since I already had the hammer that brings the skulls back, and a big aphro attack, I felt like it wouldn't be too bad 🤔

[sour widget]

Wide grin ruins Medea because now all your skulls always drop together so you can never get multiple separate hits on p-array

Makes room clear ASS

The best way to play Medea is always one skull unless you want to one-shot a tankier enemy

But that’s only on early regions

You basically never multi-load on later regions except for boss setups

And only if you have p-array

That’s my understanding but watch any run by Foolish if you want more understanding of Medea on both anyfear and high fear

I may have missed something it’s been a while since I’ve watched them

I just know for boss DPS they always drop an oattack on the boss the moment they start so they get huntress and damage

[pliant tiger]

i think thats only on medea tho

for perseph and mel skull its better to pre fire so that the boss will immediately get hit with parray

[sour widget]

Oh absolutely yeah that’s what I do

Just stack all the skulls on them and dash in

So you get instant p-array

Only works until you get wide grin though

[olive vigil]

Looks like you’re ready to start pushing fear

[neat jewel]

Awooooo 🐺 Howling Soul baby totally not Zeus-carried

[sour widget]

https://tenor.com/view/lone-wolf-sigma-skibidi-rizz-gif-15646566662405867061

[pliant tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/the-smartest-predator-real-science-an-iq-too-high-gif-2180560086852266128

[simple cypress]

damn are you collecting all the 65s

i got my second 65f clear just now, with coat, no hammer until fields, this weapon does NO DAMAGE

[neat jewel]

Nah the only remaining ones that I am probably capable of doing are Selene and maybe Hel and maybe Trickslop

[simple cypress]

selene 🤮

[neat jewel]

Flame Strike Sworn Flourish Blinding Rush 🤝

[simple cypress]

the only good thing about coat is the +20% move speed why would you want to use this weapon

[neat jewel]

AND Flash Fry doing huge damage

[crimson birch]

Cos it's fun :P

Did you only get Pyro Technique late game?

[neat jewel]

Coat is the only weapon safer than Staff for me

[crimson birch]

Cos that would certainly make it feel like doing no damage

[simple cypress]

LOL those are the exact same boons you had for your 65f coat too haha

[simple cypress]

yeah... at chronos shop....

[crimson birch]

That's pretty pain

At least it showed up At All but

[simple cypress]

yeah if i didn't get i'd die to timer

[simple cypress]

video

[neat jewel]

Zamn Strength + Persistence start? I feel like I NEED early Artificer luck on not-Mel Staff

[lofty oriole]

Think Mel and Perse skulls would be pretty doable for you

Unless you've already done them

[worldly moat]

whens the 67 twin

[neat jewel]

Yeah maybe Mel Skull too but problem with Mel Skull for me is I NEED Fetching Array or I can't function and the resets for that would probably bore me to death (same for Trickslop tbf lol)

[worldly moat]

atp you might beat me to it

[neat jewel]

Nah my Hecate and Scylla scyll issue is insane still

[worldly moat]

run some stregnth no lovers antler r4 62s

teaches ya quick

[olive vigil]

scyll issue

[sour widget]

https://tenor.com/view/dodgewrench-dodgeball-gif-22028517

[lofty oriole]

Goated movie 🔥

[latent shadow]

fastest i've ever killed typhon

[slate cave]

I turned my laptop off before I shared so no pic but I managed to disintegrate typhon with just 3 health left. 😭 🙏

[native jungle]

Closest I ever came to a hitless run, and first time using Gale; coincidence? I think not.

[lean rivet]

"ares special on nyx is probably a bad idea" i said

but i guess not lol, too bad i got coffin nail too late (6/24)

[noble ginkgo]

will watch that in a bit, thanks

did my final testament with the Charon axe, Homer is being cheeky today

[wanton pelican]

Maximum cool down reduction on all 3 blast boons. only 3rd place on the damage leaderboard, psychic whirlwind too good

[noble ginkgo]

no grand caldera?

[wanton pelican]

no, only saw it once against furnace blast

might have been more overall damage since i had global damage from uncommon grace but idk

mostly im just happy about the thumbnail (if i was actually a content creator)

[reef jacinth]

my friend lost the run but i think they have a favorite godddess

[analog oasis]

We need more Hera

[reef jacinth]

yes we too

[lean rivet]

ass build i had aphro special but denial moment the build was doodoo anyway but i had a lot of safety (7/24)

one thing i'm appreciating on dream dives is that i've been using card r3 more now and its lowk good

[lofty oriole]

Mel Torch 65F 🫠

Ngl twilight curse kinda carried

[crimson birch]

TC ✨

[lofty oriole]

Spread and Ambition are so good

[sour widget]

TC is goated

[lofty oriole]

Carries so many of my runs lol

Anyway 17/24 65F

Anubis Morrigan Charon Medea + 3 Coats

[analog oasis]

Had a bad sirens?

[analog oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/rebelmediahu-fidesz-orban-fideszvodor-fideszvödör-gif-4073260108632434409

[tawdry cape]

Apologies for the phone pic, am on console. The flames finally clicked for me. 2nd time beating Typhos!

[nova crater]

really liking hel after the changes, oattack actually feels pretty good to use now

ignore the insane damage i took during the bosses pls

also first run without rivals scylla woooooo

[neat jewel]

PINK AURA

Does Aphro work on Ospec? Or is it too far

[cursive panther]

that I have questionned

I dont think it works with Omega Special-

unless you have sweet surrender

[neat jewel]

Island Getaway you mean?

[graceful epoch]

PINK AURA

[cursive panther]

Island Getaway gives you reduced damage

[neat jewel]

Yeah and lets Aphro boons function at range too

[cursive panther]

ohh ok then yea prob

[marsh condor]

are you perhaps
THE torch main?

[cursive oriole]

First time beating 32 fear, really wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be

[sour widget]

Yeah honestly if you can handle the rivals bosses then everything up to like 45 is pretty free until you have to start turning on hordes, pain, scars, wards and return

I was surprised by how manageable everything up to 45 was when I first got there

50 is when timer starts being an actual concern unless you naturally play slower

[pseudo pawn]

Not too bad a layout i think

[digital surge]

Easiest run ever

@rocky steppe

What did you say about Selena?

[rocky steppe]

This run isn't good by my standards idk what to tell you

I'm not having this argument again