#h2-discussion
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How is moros involved in this yuri
Moros is the evil intimidating horse
If after fog and watcher i don't find it I'll just wiki it
Head to the upper left side of the map (not above dirtmouth)
Who’s the awesome lesbian couple
There’s a lot of directions one can go with this
Green or Garden?
I was headed to garden today
Cloth and Nola
Garden
Ah, so according to keikaku
Yes
Every second I spend in Deepnest, I can feel my blood pressure rise further
This region is all sorts of miserable
Just don’t be scared lol
The blood pressure isn't fear
It's anger
Stalking Devouts (the spiders who have a front guard 90% of the time) make me want to punch a hole in the wall
guys do we have an expect date of when the game story gonna be finished?
The zombies, spiders, and silverfish are annoying more than anything, but Devouts can go straight to the deepest pits of hell
We don't, though it's unlikely to be this month because of Silksong on the 4th
can we expect it this year tho?
Yes
nice
Yeah, almost certainly
okay thanks for the answer
I think a Halloween release would be a good fit
If they don’t release it this year I would be very very surprised
#h2-feedback message @narrow latch Someone has never gotten Hestia godsent (especially before Sirens) and it shows
Someone has very clearly not done a tribeam lunar ray in their life
Or a decent Wolf Howl build
That one doesn't even need much investment
And then Artemis drops Whispered Prayer in your lap and you watch as you insta-phase every boss
Is Wolf Howl Godsent bad or am I not doing it right?
It’s not Bad per se but it’s not the most OP thing out there
I feel like the hammer strike isn't that impactful, that's all
Ok, brain fart time.
Assuming Artemis were a core god:
🏹Target Ring
Your cast makes enemies within it Marked upon expiring.
@raven perch @buoyant matrix @rapid osprey @oak ivy https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952167248984965170/1412320727419584623/4158df7aa8aeab1f809e74ebd64aecf1.jpg?ex=68b7ddad&is=68b68c2d&hm=2cd6b90fb1c380fd63ff10aee8c6182859cf972e56b9f6418a22356ba6d144c3&
i can rest until thursday
INCREDIBLE!!!! Wow congratulations oh my god!!!
am i seeing this wrong, or does the anchors' (enemy in thessaly) red circle to indicate the damage they will do stay a moment after you defeated them, even though it's not doing any damage?
it does persist a moment yeah
ah thanks, wasn't sure with how much there's always going on
We got Silksong before h2 what is this life xD
they'll drop h2 1.0 in the next 12 hours just to get u
Wow... That is a lot of dedication
does greatest gift of gaia actually give us fish? it shows a fish icon when i leave an area with a fishing spot but i think i never got any more fish to sell
it gets fish yes
hm, ok, thank you
This was stirring an old abstract memory within me for a while and i just understood what it was:
The Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix organisation xiii cavern of remembrance
Wonder when 1.0 will arrive. I just realized I can't really gauge how much is left even if I am somehow under the impression of not much.
i think there's a reasonable chance we'll get a release date in the (rumoured) nintendo direct this month
I was gonna ask if we'd get a Godhome for hades bosses but I guess that's what Rivals is already
I mean the runback to the bosses isn't that long.
if u dont listen to a particular dialogue when it shows up, will it show up again? :(
no but you can check the log to at least see what they said
No like, when they have an exlcamation mark over their head, but you go past them and dont speak to them
oh it'll show up again yeah
‼️
how many people are going to have the discipline to wait until the first post-release patch of silksong before playing it I wonder?
Context: I'm an extremely cynical person these days, Hades 2 is a weird exception to the rule I have about never buying any game until some time after release
first post release patch? my brother in zeus I've set a timer for the exact second it's available to buy
(fun fact: hollow knight's first version had a big bug that when you finished the second colosseum challenge it straight up just didn't give you the notch)
It's a hollow knight game, it will be full of bugs
they spent 7 years making it,,, i have fait it will be good
also post release patches are usually a scummy triple A company thing
That's probably true, but a little paitence has often been worth it for me with a lot of other games.
Long dev times doesn't always indicate a better product
i guess so, but i trust team cherry on this 
How many regular olumpians do we get? Arty, Dio and Athena dont count
ten: ares, hephaestus, zeus, posiedon, hera, hestia, aphrodite, apollo, hermes, demeter
oh wait apollo
9 plus hermes
WHAT
can't wait for Hades 2 to release on September 3rd, 2025
Lolollololol
What happened
So does Winner circle reduces the effectives of Super Nova?
yes unfortunately
winner's circle has a lot of anti synergies
there are few circumstances you'd want to take it
Grandma xd or so ive told
dem?
charon + geyser spout + local climate
well, doing a hera+hazard boom build
hazard boom is separate from your cast
having 6 nuclear missiles on screen at once seems silly
Yeah but its affected by winners
it activates faster?
isn't it like heph cast where you just have more on screen at once
Yes, i have 6 nukes at once
that's silly by itself, but how long does each take to explode
if you smash it, its 1.5 seconds between each nuke+cast damage
so hazard boom's timer is affected by winner's circle? that's crazy
how much damage does hazard boom do again?
500 per cast
that's a max level heph blast with seismic servo except you get to keep your attack or special pffft 😂
and with cerci gets even sillier
cuz it stacks ontop of itself
i forgor demeter
may i steal this
Yes (its very scuffed though)
can anybody explain me how auto fire (L2) is supposed to work?
i never used it and i tried to yesterday but couldnt do anything
is it? I'd say it's about normal for bugs to be patched post-release since how are you even supposed to catch everything with a smaller team
as for AAA, a bit harder to say and probably budget dependent, but regardless of that there's very few if any ways to actually catch every single bug
Yeah I bought something first day only once and was very disappointed. Also HK was bad on launch as well. It would be glorious if there will be no issues
The world is big and complicated
day 1 patches are only a bad thing if they have substantial content in them lol
in silksong's case i doubt it'd be anything other than bugfixes in the first week of release, kinda like how supergiant's been handling post-update balance patches (though on a more minor scale)
There's going to be a bunch of tiny issues that a huge playerbase will find that a much smaller set of playtesters won't
for a game this big it's basically a statistical inevitability
You first need to turn autofire on in your settings. If you do, holding down the attack/special buttons will make you spam those moves instead of omegaing
There's a binding for autofire now?
(doesn't work with torch attack and idk what it does with Hel attack)
Yeah you can have autofire on toggle or hold iirc
interesting
I bound mine to L3 though I'm only really using it in coat special runs
Pretty sure Hel works like Torches for that
and likely the same for Darkside attack because there's literally no point in making an autofire version for it
it works for torches, can even be a little advantageous on eos
For the attack? Ik it works on special
last time I checked autofire though it didn't hard block omegas, it just waited until the end of the attack combo if the weapon uses one
was quite a few patches ago
If you take a look at my Nyx clear from unseen update, I had autofire there and it just let me hold down special forever without the omega starting up
so you can just mash attacks and specials rather than smearing your thumb into the buttons?
I can see that being useful
(or wasting your mouses' click life)
Yeah it's really nice on coat
58 fear is where the sweet spot of difficulty and fun is for me right now. Unrivalled Chronos is silly and the vow setup here is literally just old 50f + Rivals 3.
Also, feel free to send this to anyone who says coat is bad
Nyx in particular, yeah
really gotta get that Nightspawn value
relatedly: Launcher Frame for Nyx? Worth it?
yes
Uhh I don't remember hammer names, what does it do
Fair
iirc the specials it creates have all the properties of normal specials
25% chance to special on attack/dash strike hits
Ohhh, yeah it's an okay click if you don't get the special hammers
Yeah, it's a regular special. Oddly it also is with Counter Barrage, which leads to an amusing but not actually good combo withNightspawn
Probably does more for Mel coat than Nyx
and is affected by Success Rate
sorry, launcher frame is, not counter barrage
(But isn't a valid prereq to make success rate get offered at all)
Shimmering being the obvious one, what's the others?
Ripper? Furious?
The one that makes them fly faster and i also like the one that makes consecutive rockets on the same target hit harder
shimmering is best if you're running scorch or hitch
None of the attack hammers really appeal to me that much on Nyx because I mostly special and omega sprint
Shimmering is best.
melting is good if you get offered nothing else 😂
I think my 58 Nyx didn't even have an attack boon 
So yeah, furious and ripper. Although furious is badly worded at what it does
it says 80% faster and they fly faster but like, uhhh, not quite?
It varies from weapon to weapon
If a weapon will automatically use omegas(Torches, Hel), then it will
Furious makes the launch time happen in 80% less time, adds 50% flight speed and halves the cooldown between regular specials
(And improves their turn rate to compensate the higher speed)
I love it when tooltips describe the actual effect of the thing you're picking up
It's nice, isn't it?
Anyone might be fooled into thinking it just makes them fly faster and wonder why they'd ever want that
1.0 today
They might be
did i say today i meant today if it was october 26th
someone has to lock in the changes so that they have time to make the video for the dramatic reading of the notes
Isn't Greg typing in #hades2-patch-notes just now?
surely
hes actually typing in there on 2 keyboards to make it come out even faster
And coding final changes on the third keyboard
Hrm, how does Ripper rockets even work...
It just works
just checking what is means by "consecutive"
it's... huh, okay. Literally just hits from any rocket within 1 second from the previous
from any previous
so you're saying furious and ripper can theoretically stack to infinity?
there must be a cap on it surely
it's a cap of +25 bonus power, says so in the description
oh right 🗿
but it doesn't look like it cares if it's an omega or normal or nightspawn rocket, or any combination thereof
but you might get scammed by your omega special if the rockets all arrive at weird intervals
Might play around with Ripper Nyx
Then how do you Omega?
it rerolls your seed, basically you get different options in your first one or two rooms of the run
oh
it's for speedrunners and high fear players who need very specific boons to start the run
but you can use it casually to have fun with some stuff
like reroll until you start with a heroic heph attack
lol thats going to be a lot of reroll
not with divinity 😛
Yuppie
i was just fighting ||Typhon|| with Wolf Howl and got out of bounds! I could still deal damage to him but he couldn't deal damage to me :3 i could have cheesed it but decided to play fair and died as a result
yeah that wolf howl bug has existed for a while
surprised it hasn't been patched yet
How do i access the "book of shadows" or whatever it was called? where i can see all boons etc, I crafted it at the cauldron
Pad or keyboard?
Open your options menu and see your bindings
C by default on keyboard
Should be top button on controller pad
Is there any indication when a room is a fountain
does primed mana counts into boon that calculate total mana?
No, Total mana is total mana
but being at max possible mana due to priming is still "max" as far as The Huntress arcana is concerned
But if you're wondering if Uncanny fortitude cares how much you've primed, then no, it doesn't
it might affect tranquil gain, thinking about it
Demeter
oh
also i still need a reason to main Poseidon... so far i only use his stuff as support especially sea star
hera's also as support mostly her duo boons are kinda lame
You say that but...
haha
Also Flood gain is actually pretty great
also apollo's double attack dont work like what i imagined with aspect of anubis
Extra Dose?
i'll read into it what weapon is best for poseidon?
make sense
Just hel and wave strike is like going into fights with a riot hose
but its the only arm with "range"
arm?
weapon
weapon?
nocturnal arm
I mean you can absolutely use any light hitting move to proc wave strike
works fine on staff attack, knives attack (not special, sorry)
Torch is okay
Poseidon works well on way more weapons than you think. Torch special spam, Anubis, Mel Coat, and mom and hel skull
wont splash push targets away?
Suit on anything
The push doesn't affect the victim that procs the splash, in theory
lol so its stil half confirm?
The splash water effect is for CC, mostly, although the damage does still apply
i guess the only thing that stoping me to main poseidon is doubt about splash on melee
Patch today trust
The splash size is based on the actual attack used to proc it, even if the damage remains the same
Splash on Mel coat actually works well due to attack speed and heat riser
hmmm
So the splash on attack #3 on knives is kinda tiny, but axe attack splash is hueg
Pan also works, but it’s a bit more iffy due to the nerfs
ICD on splashes for projectile spam attacks, sadly
we're way too close to silksong now
they're not risking it
oh huh, dagger drill attack is -30% splash size, combo ender is +20% splash size
Can you imagine
lol dont get what that means at all
if splash is for cc then would it still be useful for boss fight?
the splash projectile size
dagger drill attack is the third attack in the sequence that hits 5 times
oh and since we're here, King Tide is GOOD
+200% splash damage on bosses is lulzy
and 1.35x splash size
Not really, no, but you usually don’t take splash for the CC anyways. The damage is the real thing we go for
i see
guess i'll try poseidon then
been missing out
then there's ares... i only pick him for the drops
yeah, splashes are a fixed lump of damage on any move, so go for the rapid attackers
Ares isn’t even worth it for drops. He’s way better for Grievous Blow and Mutual Destruction (and duos ofc)
take poseidon attack on mel axe trust
Honestly ain't bad on than
axe attacks get +10% splash size
Speaking of Poseidon. He is a requirement for cast builds
Gyser Spout is hilariously good for cast builds, yes
Honestly, Mel axe should internally be coded to make the splash wave HUUUUUUGE
150 base Ocast power... let's just casually add +150-250 base power
Also, his lego affects Geyser spout too iirc
and multiply that with all cast and global bonuses
poseidon cast should have been a whirlpool
does not
But we have gale and rupture
it just adds power to the existing Ocast
Aw, sad. Guess it only affects his cast then, which would explain the damage increase
yes, sadly no size increase
btw frenzy after 20 fear is sus especially path going up the mountain
Frenzy is horrible on Prom, yes
Although, if you are a masochist, you could always try Frenzy with Rivals Chronos. 3rd phase is fast enough as it is
ugh
not there yet.. still lacking 2 typhon's eyes to get last level rival
imo rival boss should have better reward
or rarer ones
or at least give one major fines?
Agree somewhat here. At 50-62 with Rival 4 and Frenzy 2, you are basically required to have Sprint speed via Nitro Boost, Blinding Rush, and/or The Swift Runner with P3 Chronos and Rival Cerberus, or to face tank, or dodge perfectly for a while.
was it going up from 2.3.4.5?
2,3,3,4

I will say though, the only genuinely unfun rivals fights are Cerb and the Sirens. Everything else is a really nice challenge
The ‘somewhat’ part though, and this could be delusions from playing too much high fear, but I think that Rival Chronos is learnable. It’s really really difficult, but it’s possible.
yeah sirens are the worst then cerb is only having issue with slow and close range weap
It’s definitely possible to learn RChronos. After a while his clone just… doesn’t matter and you treat him like regular Eris.
the worst part of UR chronos is the start of p3.2 and whenever he applies time slow
True. There is also the cutscene phase eating into Timer, and the triple scythes that can be an annoyance.
triple scythes are completely dodgeable it's just really hard to do
and I don’t just mean the cutscene from p2 to p3, which for some reason eats into timer, I mean the 12 lasers at the start that you can do next to nothing to fight at Frenzy 2.
You can scarcely fight them on Frenzy 0
even though you can read the numerals on the floor to see the pattern
Silksong in 2 days and it's $20... I could not be more ready to be "sick" and have to call in to work.
I tried to and ate a laser. Safe to say it’s nearly impossible
he's not there long enough each teleport to really hit him with much
argh that and tripple moprh balls 
Because you are, feel bad about it once in a while.
I feel bad enough without this

Mostly tired from work tbh
Watch all the updates be free again
I feel like that's the approach everyone should take to metroidvanias. Half the fun is getting lost, looking at the map, and going "I see" when you feel like you're holding it upside down.
i watched the trailer a total of one time and am completely avoiding the community
Sadly this means I have to stop my playthrough of Creepy Redneck Dinosaur Mansion 3

Altho I do await its sequel, Creepy Redneck Dinosaur Mansion 1
... I'm suddenly even more lost
Good
This feels worse than my first time in Deepnest
oh does choosing non godsend hex will get no godsend even if i get the relevant god afterwards?
It's from the same studio as Space Warlord Organ Trading Simulator
Warhammer 40k?
you can get the godsent later
As well as An Alien Airport Currently Run By Dogs
ah nice then
honestly, i'm so down to not use the compass equivalent and actually read the map
My aim here is more confusion
everything tranurz is saying is real fyi
Ye they have an upcoming game called Truck-kun Saved Me From Another World
As well as Space Warlord Baby Trading Simulator
I actually never used the compass in HK
And just released Co-op Kaiju Horror Cooking
wooooow congrats jfc 🙏
Also it's the I Am Your Beast studio
it's the best charm though!!!
These are all real games
(it helped me a lot at least)
hollow knight compass is like hades 2 persistence
I can't imagine you can do P5 without the wayward compass, it'd be way too difficult
you can avoid taking it in favor of something else, but will you?
🧭 ❤️
I've gone on Steam scrolling adventures, I believe you.
It's fun tbh
Strange scaffold is a studio im mildly affiliated with tho (I mod their server and speedrun I Am Your Beast, and have playtested for that game too) so I am a bit biased
But the whole setup is one lead dev and the rest is contractors who, if he likes their idea, get hired to make that idea real
Which mostly seems to be: does it work as a game and is it funny
Hell yeah man, I never use compass nor do I buy maps
Except if I need to collect grubs because no way in hell am I remembering those
The creepy redneck dinosaur mansion 3 game pretends to be an unfinished game in a series where the characters realize they are in an unfinished demo and have to fix bugs and whatnot
It's very inside jokey about the process of making games
It also commits to this bit pretty hard
Referencing the previous game that, to be clear, do not exist
Simply acquire a better memory. 5head
Release date?
September 32nd
Hollow knight silk song is releasing September 4th, glad you asked
i gotta keep myself from playing too much before 1.0 hits
i alrdy gt 93h in
but i wanna try everything again, aahhhhh
Alright im doing one of them Possesed Arrray runs
I gto possesed array so might as well try it
Rip my magick btw
take hecate keepsake
THE SKONG IS ALMOST UPON US
1v1 me rn

upload somewhere else then share it here
ah
me personally i made a discord server just to embed dump in it
pizza doesnt like to bully people...
the only person i bully is myself 😎

(my self esteem kinda ass ngl)
your status checks out 😔
dont we all have crippling anxiety
RAHHHHH
She sounds like the mini chariots in h1 😭
Toula meows just like my cat and I'm often confused
Probably too big 💔
Just a cute small kid
Mel is already the goat ykyk
Simple way is dm image to bot / put it in a priv server and copy the discord link
Ok but imagine a goat familiar that can:
- Charge headlong into enemies.
- Charge headlong into outcroppings
- Bleat and give enemies the evil eye, inflicting a random curse on them
You are cooking
Sirens fight with 19 hp and 0 DD!
I got my last exam tomorrow, i can go back to grinding bounties without feeling guilty 👹
Yey!
Rivals? 😀
Nah im ded
I really should study 😭
like 10 secs into the fight lmfao
Oh rip
Then study
Okay 🤧
Genuinely rivals Scylla is the worst fight in the game imo
There's too much visual clutter and all the spacings are weird. And don't get me started on those stupid water spouts by the drummer
based
Or a rat or a snake 😢
I love that Genesis song 😀
Not me either.
To think he used to be an Arcana
Don't get me started because I'll make you a whole familiar Pokédex
Don't heck with me
I have the power of adhd and free time on my side
AAAAAAAAAHHHHH
🗡️ 😫
thanks, do as you will
oh right lol, tyty
One day for 1.0 and two for silksong 🔥
Lol i would perish
Also i love the references to aphrodite being around waayyy longer than you might think, specifically after chronos and friends fought ouranos OwO
aphro is just weird
It's unclear whether she's married to Hephaestus in H2 (even though she called him her husband in H1) but I like that they and she consider her family anyways
She's probably married to him but they don't refer to each other as husband or wife so . shrug
don't eyeroll at me she's like an eldritch being or something
They don't canonize any origin for her but it's rather likely it's the Ouranos thing
technically we are all born from ballsacks 👍
😭
don't act like being an eldritch being makes someone 'weird' 😝
I mean "eldritch" and "weird" come hand in hand
it does and I'm tired of pretending that it doesn't
hestia says she's really old
Aphro even says herself that she experienced Chrono's golden age
I know
Which is a real doozy when you consider that golden age predates the olympians owO
It doesn't, cuz they were the ones to dismantle it
They (the older generation at least) all experienced it to some extent
3 out of 5 times i look into this chat i see lilac posting that emoji or something similar 
😭 😭 😭
that's because I cry all the time!!
i'm very sensitive 😔
i cri everytim?
i get you
do you want a binky 🥺
pacifiers aren't actually good for babies
really??
Yeah apparently the "sucking" on a pacifier can hurt their heads or something
lets hope you are not dissolveable on top, or you will just vanish through your tear 
Babies have very soft malleable skulls .
oh no I'm melting....
that is so messed up....
squishy fellas
why are babies like that
"you dont have to be a parent to understand the horror of walking into a room to discover that the baby crawled out of his crib and onto that pottery wheel you forgot to turn off, and while the baby is spinning around and around, the dog is sitting there all calm, like a person, gently using his paws to fashion the babys soft cartilage head into something a little more modern. it might be the classic tale of bad parenting, but lets see where the dog is going with this" /copypasta
wh-what
don't question me
😭
imagine childbirth if they had hard skulls
I'm curious to see what the dog ends up making
i dont want imagine childbirth as it is tbh no thank you
their skulls should be made more aerodynamic
the baby after growing up 
technically human babies are born prematurely compared to other mammals!
they should have rockets and fins to help them go faster
honestly why don't we just let them cook
well if you remove the skin on top they do let air in, and if you are lucky it goes out through the eyes/noses, so i would say they are if you substract 1 layer of tissue 
this is such a nonsense sentence 😂
premature relative to entirely different species 😂
I hate human babies so much... 💔 I think god messed up my motherly instincts accidentally because instead of human babies I love kittens a lot more
human brains are so big they need a big braincase. big braincase hard push out of small bipedal waist
i'll have like 5+ cats by the time I'm 40 instead 👍
put the brain somewhere else smh
so true
What determines who Mel can salute?
like she can salute the Unseen and their allies, but why random NPCs like Narc and Echo?
wh-where?
To salute is like saying "hi", you can say hi to whomever you want
why not the olympians tho
yeah there is no crazy lore implications 😭
Because the Olympians can't hear her
you can't salute boons
maybe on a bookshelf. #aesthetic
You can salute Selene and Hermes boons
!!!! I like this, I dont need my brain anyway most of the time tbh
it can take a break
in a jar, futurama style 
u can salute selene and hermes, coincidentally two gods that are also in with the Unseen...
Selene can hear her cuz she's big and round
hermes can hear her cuz he's quick and nimble when he needs to be
she's "big" and "round" huh? 🤨
her horse is*
Mel has different salutes depending on if the NPC is a part of the Unseen, the Silver Sisters, or some other faction
or rather... selene is the horse one
moon
game sucks I can't pet the horse
they haven't even modelled the horse
imagine if Hornet had a horse in Silksong...
game sucks i cant pet odysseus 💀
Mel's too short
it'd not be a horse, it'd more be a beast like god tamer's pet
Literallyyyy unplayable
mel is probably like 160cm at best
Hornet's name is Hornet despite her not being a hornet, so her pet would be called Horse without being a horse
a small silly beatle with a ginormous unicorn like beatle head 💀
No way mels gotta be taller
She was named by the Queen Bee, I don't think anyone's seen a horse

i guess....
oh well......
ok, science time, how tall do you think zagreus is
Is there a correct answer for this
159 cm
Like 175-180
if we assume mel got the exact same height genes as zag from her parents, she's 13cm shorter, so 162-167
We can probably pull some game theory bs to find out by comparing her height to a real world object
like frinos!!
wait did oyu pull game theory bs to find out she's 13 cm shorter
I headcanon mel as 170 cause no way shes shorter than me
yes way she's shorter than you
no i pulled out medical knowledge bs
IM 163
Mel is a baby
Mel is a radish
a man and a woman who have the exact same genes (excluding sex chromosomes duh) and have grown up in the exact same environment will be 13cm apart
bow because im 19 cm taller, peasent 
Hi guys, I hope I am not interrupting, does someone knows, when approximately will the 1.0 release?
tomorrow
they didn't grow up in the exact same environemnt though....
we expect anywhere late september to late october
Mel is a vegan so she probably got less varied nutrition. except Zag only eats fish and onions so
Thats not geneticallt accurate im pretty sure
hm
Zag never got any vitamin D though, so his bones are weak and small, so he's probably shorter than Mel
The only way to find out information like that is to do studies on identical twins but even then the identical twins will have differing socializations
sounds like knowledge from /r_medical_advice 
neither did Mel! she sleeps during the day
she gets the vitamins from the cauldron though!!!
she cooks up all the funky dishes
soups
we can see mel's bones and the look pretty healthy, we cant say the same about zag's 💀
exactly ^
Ok thank you guys
real answer is about october
one of my family members is literally a pediatrics endocrinologist it's literally his job 😭
i said what i said 
his information can also be wrong shrug
But you cant say that siblings will always have a 13cm difference bc thats just not correct
but on the flip-side we can see that zag got good meat, mel's looks a bit pale and not quite complete 
you see, I took one quarter term of developmental psychology so obviously I know better /j
yeah because siblings will never have the exact same genes duh
I disagree: you can say whatever you want actually!
identical twins
unless you mean epigenetics
My bad 😞
it's okay I forgive you... god punished you enough already by making you 163 cm 💔 😔
i concede
??? 163 is bad?
STOPPPP
I'm joking omg 😭
😭😭😭
FUNNY JOKES!!!
do yall live in the Netherlands or something 😭
in my country you'd be kinda tall actually
I am an almost 21yo man
pronto once again possesed lilac 💀
OH NEVERMIND
😭
I THOUGHT YOU WERE A WOMAN
THE SHAUNA PFP IS MISREPRESENTING ME
well living on the average isnt so good aswell
cause if you see a lot of people that are slightly bigger than you you feel sad
when you are living on one side of the spectrum you are atleast special 
"i am a dwarf and I'm digging a hole, diggy diggy hole, diggy diggy hole"
it's ok Jon I like you anyways!!
no one asks me if i can grab something from the bottom or top shelf 
Thank you lilac i like you too !
this is proof that personality is a lot more important than height anyways!!!
I got over the height thing a long time ago, now its just funny
nice~
i thought that anatomic heart emoji was a pregnant woman emoji, but really zoomed out 💀
😭 😭 😭
dont you see it 
no......
Not at all?! 😭
women arent red..........
Karlach would like to disagree
oh you're right...
thats what you all want us to believe !!!1111! 
ok but she grew up to not be red
so i guess it doesn't count
I dont know who that is..
so its a phase 
clearly a red woman 

female protagonist from gooner anime, her adult form looks... quite different...
its for the plot
😔 it's always gooner anime
its peak bru
what is it called?
darling in the franxx
ohh wow and i had a hunch it would be like that and i was so close to write something like "and she will most likely be pregnant at some point in that show" 💀
its peak bru trust
is she that one girl I saw tons of fanart of?
everything that has "harem" somewhere as a story plot point is not peak imo
the one in the red dress with horns?
yes that one
yup
ohh ok ok
cause if something like that is peak 🌽 would win oscars left and right 
its actually for the plot ts time
that's waht they always say
😔
this is, in fact, real
twin ❤️🩹 🥹
the relationship between women and men is a very serious topic in the story 😂
plot being "touch/insert here for x99999 power boost" 💀
let me translate this sentence:
"the writer REALLY REALLY wanted to find a way to justify this thing in the plot"
yup
i'm speculating on Sept 12th.
there is never such a thing "for the plot", it's all designed on purpose to be like that
this is frankly also true 😂
its deep trust me man
that's how it always goes!
hope so
i will trust you on that, because its a gooner anime and the mc dreams of nothing else except that
writing is 99% about justifying your gooner ideas 😔
I am getting to 200 hours and the game is not out yet
just some robots spit acid that just to happens to melt clothes 😵😵
Its always authors coming up with the most ellaborate bs for “the plot”
exactly
but its peak it has its gooner moments but the anime is actually nice if u can look past them
defeding harem "plot" is like reading a world building manga/manwha and complaining in the comments that "nothing happened" in the chapter and it was "short" 💀
first comes the idea: "I want a sexy character"
THEN the writers will go to extreme ends to justify it by any means necessary so it doesnt "look" weird
can the convo move over to #off-topic-discussion btw?
no
no
im not defending it bru im just telling u its not all fan service
😭😭
you're clearly new here 😔 💔
that's genuinely how it goes!!!
sorry boss no can do
that's 99% of writing
It's the difference between Doylist vs Watsonian consideration
real
indeed, and I'd actually like to talk about H2 in the H2 chat
You can
feel free to bring up anything you want
then give us someting to speak about h2 
we're not stopping you
Very easy to connect harems to H2
you can talk about it, we regularly have multiple parallel conversations here
The worst version of this i can think of was that girl for mha
or Silent from that Kojima game..
the woman who grows?
cool, then I know I'm missing some incantations due to some resources still being marked as necessary but I have no idea how to trigger them
Nope that's just a weird thing don't worry about it
do you have them or do you still need the recourcess
?
ahh those 
I'm at 222 hours and have almost all prophecies completed, almost all testaments completed,
Never played that 🤧
Like the 14yo that makes studf out of nowhere i forgot her name
worst case scenario just go to the wiki and check for any incantations
Silent's thing is that she has to be nude for her powers to work
the wiki isn't even up to date
did you happen to play a good amount before the unseen patch?
neither have I but I've heard how stupid it is 😭
Oh lovely
ahhhhhhhhhhhh the maker girl, ye fair but it kinda makes sense from her powers but ye they could have chosen arms/her back 
mmm, I got up to Prometheus once after he was added but didn't play much until unseen past that
If it's Psyche and Fate Fabric, it might just be tagging that due to them being used in cooking Shadow
wait hmmm how tall would Hornet be if she was converted to regular human height?
Like i didnt even unlock ares in warsong until after unseen came out 
145
Most of her height is in her horns
if she where tall she would have tall/fat pikachu vibes, so no can do 
the purging pool in tartarus is now originally broken and you have to do an incantation to repair it. if you unlocked underworld purging pools before unseen patch then that incantation is now broken. it can't be done but you get resources marked as needed
😔 true
if we're counting hornet's horns as her height she would easily be +190cm ngl
it's Shaderot, Cattail (I know that's for Dora though), Snake-reed, and Iron
The one who, IIRC, is a relative of Santa Claus or something like that?
that's what Im saying!!
but her main height would be like 40-50cm lower 
ahh, that'll do it yeah. thanks!
have you done the incantation that randomizes the music makers music choice? you may have to buy a bunch of musics before it unlocks
Might be for some hidden aspects or Hypnos sequences, then?
thus 145
her brain is in her horns so the horns count
I've done the random music incantation, all weapons maxed, and both hypnos sequences
have you done the one that lets you pause during unrivaled chronos?
yep
just look up all the incantations on the wiki then?
and compare
because I'm pretty sure repairing the tart pool only needs 2 or 3 ingredients
wiki isn't updated
you mentioned 4 ingredients
screenshot?
I mean it's still better than nothing!
well one of the 4 is for dora, i know that much
I can't get it to trigger, probably need another base prometheus run
got him to mention dora a second time but that didn't work
it took multiple runs for me to finish the dora incantation after the first 2 i think, it randomly finished at some point 
but i didnt count
yeah, i just need her to tell me how to restore her memories 
guess I'll work on it after my 20f torches run
1.0 aaaaany second now.
I hope not 💔
dont do this to me.... dont make me choose..............
Why noooot?
because silksong!!
You can play 3 hours of silksong and then 3 hours of Hades 2.
no I cant 😭
I dont have that much time
You see? Red! Wait, that's just blood
Even better. Then you can enjoy both even longer.
"It's in the blooooooood...." 
two pc's, two screens, one controlled by your hands, one by your feet
NoGameNoLife style 
that anime sucks so bad 😭
liked the story tho 
im loving cast builds in this game btw
Gonna need to actively avoid the OST playlist once 1.0 drops, because I want to have my first time hearing the credits music be when I reach it in-game
just putting down a circle to nuke ur enemies is soooo nice
I watched 1 ep and i couldnt continue it 🤧
Because man, hearing In The Blood for the first time was something incredible
i think i stopped in the later half of it on my first watch, but i like the idea of "game" rules all 
but i didnt like the panty-thingy? just resurfaced in my head 💀
Wait, is that Konosuba?
No Game no Life, not konosuba
Yeah fair
the anime is full of incest and is a very poorly diguised fetish 😔
I stopped watching anime in like 2022
Aot finale did irrepairable damage to me
(i said while i switched to light novels myself 💀 )
Light novels seeemmm interesting?
but i watch anime that i wanted to see animated from the manga/light novel i saw 
Definitely interesting titles 😭
legendary moonlight sculpter is peak, right now im reading the frozen player returns
Oh nice nice
I dont rlly have the time to get into them unfortunately 😞
Got a lot of stuff on the to-read pile
im reading them in between sets at the gym 
Goddamn thats dedication actually 😭
so you just take a big red marker and scream bingo 
I made it during class lol
but yes nice ideas
👍🏻
it is time.

time to move the skong chat into #video-games and not #h2-discussion
Silksong!!!!!
the only one that might be a bit unreasonable is the "underwater area" one, but I figured there's no harm in having one impossible square
The problem is no one who's active here ever checks those channels 💔 😔
well
drop 1.0 and we'll get back to discussing hades 2
We've exhausted all the hades conversations anyways!
Yeah exactly
its either there or hk discord bc this really is not the skong dropzone for new h2 players
make a gc... i dont know.......
well I guess I was going to ignore discord and other social media anyways when silksong comes out because of spoilers... 😔
If you haven’t discussed the time signatures of your favorite songs, then you have not.
And I know you have not, because Prometheus told me you will eventually but haven’t yet
did someone say TIME????
we really need a chronos gif to go with that
its a crime we dont have one already
end of time 🔥
louis cole may be chronos
Time for you to go. (to go make that gif)
but also every song is 4/4 if u don't count it like a nerd tbh
What we need is to make the phase transition of P2 to P3 Chronos, and Mel getting immediately killed by a laser.
what we need is chronos instead of saying his petty remarks while "dying" saying "it is time" in the exact voice the meme has 
I just need a gif of chronos fading in from black like when you die
i tried to write something in 5/4 the other day and had to cut it but that one can be pretty fun
so much work for a game that isn't real -|
bro is the final boss of silksong do*bters 😭
we sure skong isn't a psyop?
9/3: certain files could be released as a certain organization is back in session
9/4: TC tries to distract everyone by endlessly refreshing Steam to try to get Silksong even though it's not real
Do you guys have any info on what build Hades 2 was playable in Nintendo Switch 2 Experience?
i had no idea what a switch 2 experience is so looked it up and youtube gave me a video of a guy saying "you play meloney"
It was a dev build, IIRC
anyway the version number can be seen in the upper right corner of the screen
When the game hits 1.0, though, it'll release for Switch alongside PC
"meloney" genuinely killed me
Freaky Chronos.
god the silksong wait is driving me nuts
We're all a little crazy here, you're in good company ❤️
now I just need to figure out how to turn this into a gif and add it to my favorites so I can shitpost more easily
is that jerma
yes
incredible
God aspect of hel needs a buff the base attack damage is so low, not even the speed compensates
jerma chronos makes too much sense
poor skelly
it's what Mel's going to do when she finds out he's a fraud
what was orpheus playing along with
It'd be nice to wake up tomorrow and have 1.0 drop
it's been so long since I've casually played through hades 1
sept 12, trust
so you're telling me Zagreus wants to take over the Italian mafia and turn it into something better?
lol
I dont think orphy was playing along tho. He was just that naive lol
I think he is because he's so stubborn about it
There was a greek myth that said zag and dio were the same god 🤧
will still be on PTO, hope so
eurydice has a teasing voice line about it as well
and silksong hasn't even dropped yet smh
funny thing is, now that silksong has an actual release date, I'm hyped. Before that I didn't even care much about it
now, it'd be nice if localthunk gave us something about the next Balatro update lmao
I cannot wait to play Silksong and Hades II it's gonna be so peak
September may be the month of all time
Thank heavens for indie gaming.
I'm gonna be honest, I was actually a doubter before the release got announced even despite all the news we had gotten this year. I was always hyped bc hollow knight is a top 5 game oat for me, but I was always careful with the hype after the 2022 xbox showcase incident
once I saw the Nintendo 2025 release date I knew it was happening
definitely helped by the news of a demo at gamescom and ACMI
but yeah the 2022 incident was awful
there's a nintendo direct leaked to be 12th of september right?
1.0 surely
1.0 announcement all in
the leaker is very reliable from what I've heard
it's also a week after silksong 🤔
if sgg is too scared of skong they can announce the date in the direct to be late september or something
I would honestly prefer that yeah
Also, one thing about silksong that I find weird is that every content creator on the planet is planning to stream it day one. Wouldn't that be bad for viewership bc ppl likely want to avoid spoilers and play the game themselves?
25th of september
2026?
so a dlc for silk song??
idt the dlc comes so soon
If 1.0 comes out before non HA blades get any changes
I'mma be so fr I don't think I'm ever playing them again 😭
surely 1.0 comes with balance changes right?
It will come with Pan nerfs somehow
"We've heard your feedback about Poseidon ICD, so we've decided to double it"
medea damage boost is now global, trick knives removed
Yeah it just dropped
And I'm pretty all of H2 has been like that so far except the tech test and EA's beginning
But I would really like a proper announcement at the end that's not day of
ugh my legs are gonna kill me tomorrow
release trailer 12th of september 🔥
But why?
Would be cool i think
Building hype
Release day drops in directs serve more to benefit the actual direct not the game itself
2 weeks of silksong have been a nightmare tbh, might as well getting Shadow dropped
I don't see a reason for an announcement, they'll just drop it
people knowing even a few days in advance lets them plan ahead
also, can we call it a shadowdrop if the game is already out? lmao
how many people do you think took the 4th of september off work?
Okay that's a fair point
I personally don't plan my schedule around games but nothing wrong with that
even a week of announcing ahead can make a difference in initial sales
I'm gonna hate my legs tomorrow lmao
How do i get renewed Faith?
have at least one defiance missing
i did and had like 8 rerolls used
just unlucky then
I love how you call her a "run-ending threat", like she's not meant to be helping you.
I assure you that she is a threat.
I’ve lost several runs in Tartarus at 50+ because Renewed Faith just never showed up
eats my rerolls and lets me pick one less keepsake for the run 🙄
And a few in Fields also
I know, it's just really funny.
athena is the true unrivaled boss in the fields of mourning
me when i get a 4-waver athena room with max hordes (the last wave enemies keep spawning and spawning)
This is me w Icarus now
I just eyeroll when I see timer pause in Thesally
ye, icarus and athena be a lil evil lol
heracles is straightforward cuz 1st enemy counts as 1st wave so he's only a 3 waver which is very nice
icarus is 100% innocent
if I'm not in a hurry i just chill out in thessaly and finish damageless
heracles and athena are in fact, evil
silver wheel's effects are permanent right? as in even after you remove the keepsake you still have the extra max magick?
ye
If she thinks Righteous Pike Phalynx Shot and Mental Block on my magicless run are helpful than Goddess of Wisdom she is not
hmm fair
btw was at PAX West this weekend and Nintendo was demoing Hades 2 (among other things). I know some people are waiting for the Switch 2 release. No idea where it's at in terms of development compared to PC but from what I saw, it seemed to run fine
Oh, absolutely.
mental block is good though
I have Messanger on most of the time so eh 🤷
When it did a bunch of damage or on WC builds sure
(I'm sorry I'm losing my mind)
rad
@oak ivy Is this is as blockworthy as the Mel one
wdym? its a masterpiece
I put a lot of effort into that one (I was bored during lab)
I guess I do have to applaud the technique
i like it but i dont think you spent enough time on it
its a shit post, I made it in like 15 minutes lol
Well you did match the chin pretty well
apologies i was making a time joak
I should make more cursed hades 2 shitposts
oh no I just got it 💔
I was a bit slow
slow?
alway work your hardest to make your dreams come true
dreams? nightmare theory?
yeah
Wait it doesn't work like that I do have to post somewhere else first
wishes or perhaps things you would like to see
even if that dream is making chronos in the thicc omni man pose while crushing Mel between his cheeks?
no
The 67f statue
Devs made it just for Foolish
is it just me or do sgg use their twitter/bsky a lot less for hades 2
i dont rlly use either so im getting my fix straight from the newsletter 🚬
emails yum
Getting my fix straight from playing the game
both newsletter and on bsky 🦀
are you able to date people in this game like in Hades I
Yup.
are Nemesis and Eris dateable people
because I want to forge a bond with everyone eventually but I don't wanna date Nemesis by accident because I want Eris instead
yes
You can do both.
okay thank you guys >w< I shall forge a bond with Nemesis after Eris