#š¶beginner-help
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Yes
Kinda, Part 1 and Part 2 fully connect at Chapter 3-EX
?
Before that you don't need Part 1 knowledge to play Part 2
that's alright, the game kinda expects you to do so anyway
is that why theres a skip button
no
it's a likely reason why part 2 doesn't need part 1 context until chapter 3-ex
so you can enjoy it in it's own way and get into it without needing all info of part 1
but can i have a brief expanation of the first few chapters of part one hehe
well first few chapters wouldn't way much anyway
but if you want explanations, check #šhonkai-lore and its pins
the other help channels are a spoiler-free zone for those who dislike them
why is all the words censored
[CN] means the content of that story is only out on chinese servers right now
discussion is allowed of that, but it needs to be spoilered
we're getting that a few weeks later
how do i get 400 pt
oh i played chinese version before
my hoyolab said i was lv 40
yeah, cn server is a few weeks ahead of us
just collect chests in the open world or go through story missions
former means you need to do less story
It's wrong
where did you read that
i think of chatgpt
okay chatgpt is not only wrong in a lot of topics, its many years behind for correct information
umamusume is actually kinda a similar case with how hi3 was released globally
the difference for us was that we got the first initial year's content in an abridged form and it slowly sickered into future patches
until we were only a few weeks behind and eventually got the same schedule as CN
anything you see on wikis that released in 1.8 likely released earlier in CN, 1.8 is just the first global patch
well china censor a lot of stuff in games so imma stick with global
plus i got a pretty strong character over here
some stigmata artworks mostly
even though i can read both languages
certainly helps, english is more based on the japanese translation
so there were a few context errors here and there
i see
the quality is still great, just the sometimes weird context errors is something to keep in mind
#šhonkai-lore does point out a lot of them
feel free to ask anytime there about that
nice i got the hammer and the character im gonna go back to playing part 1
how often do the starter banner valks change

90 days no?
chat is there a faster way for me to increase my captain level instead of story?
source...?
why am i only allowed to use the part 1 characters in some part 1
wasnt it bc the early game didnt have the features that part 2 characters had or smt
what if maybe part 2 characters are too op for part 1 content
eventually you wont even get to use your own characters youll be using trials
probably part of the reason
dang it
nah lowk prefer it like that tho tbh
pt2 story has more freedom
yea it adds to the idea of it being a story
yhhh fr
well part 2 is like an open world like hsr
except you can jump
u can jump too yes
funny spaghetti coding
u can still use them in specific cases in p1 story but all n all it doesn't matter because what youre given does the job
if you ever struggle you can look up guides online be mentioning the chapter and the stage
how do i beat them without her getting corrupted cus istg she gets corrupted so fast
OH U JUST WAIT IT OUT
Activating Ultimate evasion loses you herrscher charge.
A number of other actions should also lose you charge. Ult is the most important as it is a full reset but isn't available for the first chapters if I remember correctly. https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Void_Drifter
ah okay thank u
Any uses for duplicate? Or should i salvage it since no one else can use this stigma effectively?
salvage for prisms
Oki
duplicates will never be useful
just salvage them everytime if weāre talking prisms at least
Ue, i see okies, well more mats never hurts
i cant defeat the kevin boss and this is all i got left
the farthest ive gotten is defeating the first face, but after that i couldn't do much from how low hp i ended
time to activate enhanced mode! or just dodge better
active what?
basically just dodge better
you donāt really have any other option š
for context is a dragon ball parody in which picoro is constantly telling Gohan to dodge better after he already got beaten up
DS is your only AOp I assume?
I was mostly taking this from me and other players noticing how japanese honorifics are sometimes used between characters. Against my own argument however, I do not know how honorifics are used in chinese and only using Honorifics as a basis for other unrelated translations errors that could also just happen from CN > EN probably wasn't the smartest thought process. Just be safe:
@eager creek I'm retracting that statement about the EN translation coming from JP, you're better to judge that than me especially since you can read the story without needing any translations, while still preferring English.
no, spending any crystals or bchips on dorm cards is a scam
dorm is worst
the supply only provides you with already long dead valkyries
no rush on that but yeah, there are spending events on big patches where you can get tokens for a special shop, depending on how many crystals you're using on supplies
Okey š
dorm supply usually has 2 missions goals with up to 20 pulls needed to complete these
which free dorm supply cards can give you, not affecting your crystals
one card is always worth 1 pull, that's consistent for every banner so consider any other supply card equal to 280 crystals
i got songque, but not maxed out on the battery things
Oh that's fine
You might be lacking some damage as compared to the ref since you dont have the skill maxed and might be missing some atk, but the big thing that matters is the initial ARI
You can adjust accordingly
Thanks. I don't play on global and haven't seen a source for it.
There are chat usuals who have complained how JP voice over doesn't match the English text. Checking the lines one-by-one we did not see a localization issue from the source language, but we could not check for every line, of course.
thanks šš
FDD is a better pull than Miss Espionage, meta wise
nah, Miss Espionage won't really help you that much, the advice will always be to save for brand new stuff not reruns
Who will be the next new character
you can check #š®cn-gameplay-discussion pins but ||after sw dkey, it looks like it could be a new seele in the patch after the next, not confirmed yet though||
Wait sw dkey is in the equipment banner right?
And sw is available on the s option thing
correct but ||sw dk not announced for glb yet so pls spoiler||
she is very accessible
What is glb
Oh wait
global; ||sw dk|| is only announced for the CN version of HI3 afaik
Oh ok
May i ask
Is it still worth it to pull for SW even if im not able to get her dkey
? you cant pull for silverwing anymore
she is free in like 3 different ways
shes in WT, reserve works (iirc), and in the latest S-rank box (+ future ones)
Oh ok
Oh yeah i forgot lol
My team rn is TA, RC, VBm who should i replace once i get SW
that's why ||sw dkey is considered cheap, you just get the weapon||
||when you get the dkey, the team will be sw, vbs, vbm until you get the free sena, then it will be sw, sena, vbm||
Once i have sena, sw, and VBm what would be the next upgrade for that team? I only need 30+ pulls to get a guaranteed character
just save until the next patch
Ok TYSMM
||if it is seele, you just save for seele||
||sw and seele will most likely be compatible with each other||
what should i spend 190 anniversary annulon on
!faq spendguide
Not sure what to get, Captain? 
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) to see Professor Mango's guide on what to choose in the current spending event!
-# Also see [!faq spending](#š¶beginner-help message) if you are not familiar with spending events.
Probably SW frags but specific accounts might vary
Planning to finally start playing hi3.
Got a few questions:
What's the game size on mobile?
Is it a good time to start now aka any freebies such as selector, high pulls etc?
Is it f2p friendly?
and the most important of all...
Is Kiana x Mei truly REAL?
(cuz I'm a yuri fan)
!faq gamesize
v8.7 approx. install size
- Mobile
basic assets ~ 30.5 GB
full assets ~ 41.5 GB
- PC
basic assets ~ 43.5 GB
full assets ~ 57.5 GB
(Event files that come out after are not counted here)
You just missed the best patch to join in; especially since you seem interested in Mei, her banner left yesterday. right now is a little rough for newbies in terms of new release banners, but better now than in a few weeks and the beginner banners are actually decent for once
The game is F2P friendly if you just want to collect characters or compete a moderate amount in endgames; itās possible to reach the highest tier, Nirvana, with some consistancy as a F2P
But retaining Nirvana as f2P is much harder, much less getting say consistant top 50 or 10 or 5
So if you have goals of doing that then F2Ps will struggle
Including a Kiana banner for Badum Fiery Wishing Star, her newest battlesuit
This channel is not meant for lore questions per se because itās for new players and lots of lore questions are spoilers ||but yes.|| #šhonkai-lore for detailed questions if you have them, or even #š®honkai-chat , this one is mostly for mechanics questions
Mechanics wise the newest Mei has special skills for being on a team with Kiana, which mostly means Badum being BiS supporting Xentinel and Xentinel being BiS supporting Badum, but thatās a different question
Hopefully that covers everything but feel free to ask more questions if you got em
What am i supposed to pull for at the start? Any of this two or smth else?
Wait that banner is still up!?!?!
Itās the beginner banners
Our current reccomendation for newbies is one of those two, yes, particularly if you are rerolling. Both have very similar performance
On net I would consider Badum to be a slightly better pull than FDD
But itās close and if you have any personal preference between them I would pick that one
You could also consider going for both but thatās a significantly larger investment and I wouldnāt do it unless you liked them as characters or were in a rush to start competing in endgame (or were rerolling)
Is the crit DMG still works, since it's fully rolled I want to keep it if it's good
Yes crit damage is slightly worse than attack for Mei but a big crit damage is better than a mediocre attack, especially for the first 1-2 crit damage lines
I've just returned to the game at helia PAWS release, and as I can see the ATK is the most prior stat š I wonder if anyone do it differently
For Affixes? Luna can use lightning damage but itās a bit worse with her part 2 gear (it was better in part 1). Horb, Mei, Reign Solaris, and JDS can use crit damage. Everyone else wants attack
These days
Thelema used to have some Ma Strats that wanted some SP lines but not anymore
So you're saying the highest atk roll will always beat the highest crit dmg roll?
Is there a list of p2 battlesuits that are different
Like I mentioned, Horb and JDS want a handful of good crit lines (though also want attack, since you get diminishing returns from stacking the same bonus)
And Rs can also use it but I donāt remember the tradeoffs
Peregrine sword is bleed so she doesnāt use crit damage
And everyone else is elemental so they donāt crit
u can bring sp max lines on supp if u want to speed up rot for goi unit, its rot dependent
What teams for memorial Arena?
Do you have any aops?
Can try Me HLe Vita on Kevin https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1ULBgBiEtS?p=2
And then xdc FDD (Luna or paws) on beast of sacrifice
Donāt have a ref for that specific one but you can try getting some ideas from https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1SQw1zwEw1?p=8
And then you can do P1 Thelema to 0sec aka
HoFS Thelema say
I have chauxe
are there any worth valk to buy on this currency?
Do you know what would be better paws or Luna
Youād have to try both sorry. I would guess Luna but no easy way to be sure
You donāt need either for another boss tho
i hate the transition phase for this boss, too long and easy to mess up 
Agreed
Umnh what does monthly pass give if buy?
Crystals. A small amount every day, and then 500 every 15 days
how many per days i can get?
60 a day
who should i build here for my first team? im trying to get Ba dum fro mstarter banner but i dont want to reroll lol
!faq Fhm
I got this, Captain! 
Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!
Youāll want to focus on building Valkyrie Blastmetal since sheās your best support for Badum when you get her but until then you can use some of these teams
thank you!! will do.
how many story chapters r there like this cus they take so long
A lot, time wise you are probably around 30ish % through part 1.
Or are you asking for this chapter?
@hybrid isle
na i was on ab in general cus there seems to be alot of chapters like this
oh god
We are hitting the point where story chapters are long enough that they aren't the most time efficient source of crystals anymore. So if you are doing it for crystals it can be worth checking somewhere else.
id do ER but im only lvl42 and idk a faster way to level up besides story
Levelling up is mainly just using stamina. Story gives a slight increase but you can just do dorm expeditions to burn stamina if you don't feel like doing story right now.
i mean im fine doing story so like once i hit lvl50 i should just move on to elysian realm right
For rewards you should unlock it and do the weekly mission at least. ER also has some story connected to it, chronologically the story here is notably later then where you are currently so for minimum spoilers you should probably wait. See the playorder pinned in #šhonkai-lore
ah okay thanks
I do find that ER isn't very enjoyable if you do a lot of it back to back as it can become very repetitive and the order forces you to basically only do ER for a long time, so if you don't care that much about spoilers you can do it earlier to spread it out.
Is hersscher of the void good? I got her for free
!faq HoV
We meet again, human. 
Is it worth it to invest in HoV?
Short Answer: No, absolutely not.
Long Answer:
- HoV's maximum potential: [See here](#š®honkai-chat message)!
- Full HoV guide for dedicated fans: See here!
Thank you!
Guys where to redeem invitation code?
You have to be <level 25 or a returnee
wait till it resets next week maybe
8.5 bp (thelema) leaves bp shop next patch right
yes
since im like desperate for crystals rn is it worth doing the events? theyre lowk so boring
Guys is memorial arena worth trying as a beginner?
are a big chunk of the possible crystals in the endgame? I started around a month ago and Ive done the story till ch 33, all 3 chapters of elysian realm and Ive only pulled one S rank being xentinel mei ( had to buy crystals too)
compared to the later games this game feels less generous early on
i would say story and er is the biggest source of xtals but endgame is a good continuous source of it as well
its more about having time to do the content u have since youre gated by stuff like stamina or valks to add in er and whatnot
but the sources are generous
yeah but no need to sweat it since beginners dont have enough valks for it
if ure not sure how to split ur teams for it u can ask here
just skip dialogue if youre not interested but theyre quick to do
also do them because theres some daily gated stuff on them
much appreciated
sigh this damn event reminds me of tcg
!faq cof
Sorry for the confusion, Captain! 
Part 2 of the Main Story will unlock at level 30. Both "Covenant of Finality" and "Genealogical Seat" are part of this storyline.
Main Menu (Bridge) > Attack > Story > Extinguished Starlight and Rekindled Fire > Tides of Time gone by > Click the image to Play!
after that quest you need to complete another story mission in p2 just follow the same path and continue the quest
BRO IDIDNT NOTICE
NO WONDER I DIDNT GET THE STORY
I WAS PLAYING INTERLUDE
Thank u guys!!!
how many copys of an a rank do u need to get them to triple s
the first 4 (S->SS) is 25 each, which is half of the later stuff. it all adds to 6 functionally for SSS
so 6 a ranks?
are you talking about an S rank suit or an A rank suit
a rank
A ranks just get stats, and its 50 each
ohhhh okioki
because you can get them in shop or pulls.
but its highly recommended and not really sacrificial to get things like VBM coralie to SSS
ah okay
also pick up her weapon in p2 story when you have time, its quick and free
just the first chapter?
is Thelema with her weapon good?
err ye I think so. It's pretty quick, but it won't be like a cutscene where they just give it after dialogue. Gotta do this little grinding thats pretty quick.
but they will give you a free vbm, so ideally you get that first before getting shop copies
ohh okok!
She sees some limited use as support for some WoD teams where she can farm ARI via dodges if I remember correctly and are used for her bosses but they are quite rare. I would not spend pulls on it.
is it worth trying to complete the part 1 story in a few days? i have about 10k crystals left from story
Not really, later parts slow down how fast you get crystals and there is nothing that you would need crystals for right now.
im pulling next patch though
Yes and next patch is not in a few days.
but theres 10 days left i play other games too so if i dont grind for a few days im kinda cooked
||Both SW DLC and Youyun is available for six weeks you have a lot of time to farm, I would also only really recommend SW DLC if you are new as you don't have the coverage to properly take advantage of AOPs||
||isnt paws also on next banner though? i was going for her 4/4 too||
||Eh at this point PAWS is a pretty deep backpull with not that much to say for itself. She only gets 0-1 boss per patch so getting her isn't going to be super impactful. I would definitely not recommend it||
i mean its not like im like maxing i just play for fun and ive liked her since i saw her design she does also work with fdd anyways so thats why i wanted her
Ok, you still have seven weeks before she leaves so no need for drastic actions now
okok
why cant i dodge the first attack
is it undodgeable?
i have no skill issues trust me
okay i need to jump
so in part 2 they introduced mix up attacks from enemies where certain attacks will have a specific colored shine and have to be dodged in a particular way
yellow flashes are horizontal attacks and must be jumped
very purple flashes are vertical and must be evaded normally rather than jumping
@spiral badge what teams do you recommend for durandal reign solaris
do you have a specific context you're considering this against?
Who is on the next banner after miss espionage?
check #šgameplay-help and #š®cn-gameplay-discussion pins for the current and future calendars respectively
generally speaking any reruns are NOT recommended for long term meta f2p/light budget players
also i assume this is talking about RS as a dps?
you understand how to build around her ring type right?
I am 30 pulls away from my guarantee. Im now gonna wait or either pull for a very new character
either or
yeah i'm going to suggest waiting. It seems next patch ||we don't have any new valks being added to the game though, so you're going to be waiting for an extended while before you can make use of that guarantee.|| It's a bit questionable how you even build up that far in your guarantee tbh. In the future I recommend not rolling unless you can be absolutely sure you can guarantee both valk and her respective weapon before the banner goes away.
then as a support, do you understand her tags?
I was building pity and tbh i did kind of wanna get a new valkyree
!faq buildpity
Captain, please stop now! 
Building pity is a really bad idea. Itās better to save those juicy crystals for what you are actually planning to get.
There are many reasons to not build pity. It's not worth it in 99% of situations.
Please read them and reconsider whether you actually need to build pity:
- Some banners do not carry pity into others, Please confirm it carries over before even considering building pity.
- There are events with added rewards for rolling during their durations. Any pity built beforehand will not count towards them!
- Building pity will risk getting "lucky" with the Valkyrie/weapon early. This resets your pity. A dupe or an incomplete Valkyrie will not be greatly beneficial!
- If opting to build pity on a weapon supply, it's likely to miss out on later newer stigmas and end up overspending rolls or crafting materials to get them.
-# Depending on the situation, you can build pity during a spending event to reach a certain milestone. Please ask a St. Freya Professor before making any decisions as crystals could go toward units that are more worthwhile.
Yes Sairaan I understand tags, but surely there's more synergy than just tags
riiight :X
earlier this patch there was a spending event going on so it was somewhat justified but spending event rewards are more... "falling off the meta stuff" that i still wouldn't encourage building pity for the pure sake of it. A new gacha valk without her weapon will underperform greatly too
I have a question, i have 30 pulls from my guarantee. Does that mean i am 30 pulls away from SW Dkey? Or its a different banner
yes and no. Technically there can be a best across other members but as long as things match the difference is actually not that great (5-10%. can be 15% for exceptional cases)
The main way a particular valk can shine otherwise is by context. What enemy are you facing against? Does it have particular utility you need from a very specific valk like bleeding from PS or LV?
does it help that my durandal reign solaris is SS with sig
tbh i'm not the most familiar with RS' ranks but generally speaking ranks doesn't really largely affect what i'm talking about
the dkey is a weapon banner. The valk and weapon banners are separate pities.
Oh so does that mean SW has a rerun?
this is kinda another reason why building pity isn't a good idea. While you'll make use of it eventually, you're committing a portion of your crystals that you cannot take back and put it into a more appropriate place at the right time
SW valk is farmable in war treasury
there's no need for a banner to spend crystals on for her
Nope she's already in war treasury and obtainable via the S rank selector this patch, paws will rerun instead
Check #šgameplay-help pins for a schedule btw
So I have Reign Solaris Durandal, Hi Love Elf Elysia, Lone Planetfarer Vita, Miss Espionage Rita, Xentinel Dawnbearing Crescent Mei, Ba Dum Kiana, and SSS VBM coralie
They asked what's after ME's banner 
so let's talk about RS as a dps first
what ring type is RS? What tags of those valks match with that?
and i'm going to ask again, do you have a particular enemy in mind that you're fighting against?
Law of ascension with heavenly shift harmonizing shadow star and symbiosis
Wait sry that's only the old schedule the one for 8.8 is in #š®cn-gameplay-discussion pins
ok hang on
i'm not asking about RS' tags
don't give me the whole bucket
i can't tell if you understand what i'm getting at if you do that
Oh ok, law of ascension
yeah as a leader dps we really only care about her ring type
the matching tag to that is heavenly shift
Is planar armament a character?
if you try to stuff in HLE into an RS dps team, you're not going to have a good time because HLE isn't going to give you any additional effects with her QTEs
yes, people call her PAWS for short
Is she good?
She has her bosses but she's fallen off a bit since her release, not really worth to pull atp imo
She's getting close to a year old
in general if you're looking for something good to pull, stick with new releases of the patch only
It's not really about if a character is good or not but rather what you will get out of them and how long they will last you
Really hoping for a new bio ||No SW bronya for me||
i gave you an overview a while ago about the game's strucutre and why recommendations for the meta are the way they are. You may want to review this @junior cliff
All I see is psychic in abyss 
oh i guess i didn't elaborate specifically enough about abyss
I think I'm reading the weather, the one on the top right that says phys

Physical
uh that statement you're replying to wasn't for you
Idk what you mean by this since it's different per patch
ok long ago i talked about why the meta is important. Sorry i didn't explain enough about what abyss is.
First of all abyss changes in scenario (weather and enemies) two times each week. This means you can't rely on only one team to clear everything. Think about how genshin changes its abyss, except it's much more frequent here.
Second of all, eventually in superstring (captain lv 81+) you contest against other players for high scores. This is why skipping weapons and losing 30-40% personal damage is a bad idea and won't work so well here in hi3. Everybody else you're up against high in abyss will have these weapons.
@junior cliff
what captain level are you? Tbh it's kinda late to be asking about this abyss cycle. it ends in half an hour
Oh I already did it and got all the rewards. it just felt really slow, so I thought I could do better
if you got all the rewards from q-manifold then you're fine probably.
If it's physical weather then RS is certainly appropriate but i feel XDC might be an even better choice since she's more new. What enemy are you fighting against?
you can also show us a video of your gameplay and we can comment more specifically how to improve
if this is superstring, there's no such thing as getting all the rewards until abyss finalizes placements in half an hour. Some people can redo their scores last minute and change your placings, resulting in changing your finalization rewards
but also talk to me more about what you're using to support RS. I already gave you an example of what NOT to do.
Also weather right now is physical down in Superstring but not the topic
yeah i mean that's how i assumed q-mani to begin with
i actually really need to go soon but others can still help if you still want to understand RS as a support. Tbh RS really isn't a notable support if you have other things that shares her tags to use instead.
also i'm sorry you had to type all these out fully. Feel free to use abbreviations next time if you know them.
Your h.shift valks are LP, ME, XDC, FWS. As long as you use some combination of them, it'll prob be solid enough for now but since you're stressing for additional details
LP is a bit slow but she provides team breach to ignore a portion of the enemy's defense/resistance. Possibly one of your stronger options.
ME and FWS are generally quite fast in animations. I think both restores higher ARI than normal when evading incoming attacks (ME more than FWS).
- i don't own ME so i might be off about some details
ME might further help deal some core damage to img enemies that RS should be used against? However beware as a support her personal damage may not be notable (esp if the weather is phys up with lightning down), and a stronger support for better RS damage might be preferred instead.
I can't recall if anything about XDC as an H.shift support is notable. I think she can still insta kill bio mobs but that prob isn't notable for RS dps cases.
I see
i don't see you because i'm hopping off now. byyyye

:V
how do I check if lightning is down?
it'll tell you https://i.imgur.com/Cax6Nbj.png
but you're prob not at the point of the game to be seeing stuff like this yet
yes I'm uhh the thing at 80
yes
Hello, Captain! 
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for more information regarding Breaking through to Exalted (Captain Level 81+).
Short Answer:
- It is highly recommended to break through for better rewards, but be aware that it is irreversible!
have you gone through this faq yet?
I have, but I have not memorized
if you already chose to breakthrough then it's too late anyway
and it's prob fine since most people would opt to go to 81+
it's just every once in a while we do run into people who really don't prefer the changes
I saw the part where it says highly recommended
More crystals more power!
it'll be more about if you have enough latest releases
A3?
you can kinda think of a conveyer belt or treadmill
new things fall on the line while older stuff fall off
so it's not really about pure quantity eventually if you go high enough
it's more about do you have enough concentrated coverage for the current meta
Egg0ny 3
if they're already asking what it is, giving them a meme answer prob isn't going to help
Has ME rita fallen off
a3 is agony 3
Uhh, how high is that from red lotus
One tier below
NOOOOOOOOO
you'll find more use cases in the future. She's still relatively new. It's just it gets less and less as time goes on which is why we stress focusing on latest releases
but anyway all that aside
i don't want to discredit 8 p2 valks completely. It's good to have a good amount of various ring types and tags to not only cover a variety of scenarios (even second best in lower tiers can be enough) but also just to have a support foundation for newer stuff coming along
most earlier player problems is because they lack that infrastructure to support the new shiny gacha valk they just got
because tags for newer ring types aren't farmable
also be careful of saying stuff like this because the bot will auto bonk anyone who spams one letter or emote or something
anyway any further questions before i go for real?
going back to RS, technically she can also be used as a support to physical non-astral ring teams. However, newer players shouldn't have anything well built for that, and it's mostly out of meta at this point.
@lament sparrow pinging just so you don't miss my earlier response to you
anyway i'm hopping off for real now. gl beginner help
Cya Sai 
good night
so now that i have silverwolf n-ex (thanks returnee fund) what now? i'm not really putting much resources into my FDD team and don't have a secondary team yet
right now to clear memorial arena i just pull together a random lightning team with HoT, FR, and GD but ik that's not the best
i forgot the units i was suggested to use for HoT, i think it was RC and someone else but idk how to get them. i think RC is in war treasury?
What chaarcters do you have?
RC is in asterite shop
she's a generalist support, not amazing for HoT but gives useful buffs and fast
I would definitely expect better than FR but wouldn't predict miracles out of her
Tbh nothing atm is really worth pulling so just wait for || SW Dkey|| next patch
yeah that's what i'm planning for
@shell basin this is everyone i've got
In that case yeah I would just save up for ||SW Dkey|| next patch and prolly HoT DPs for second boss. But you can consider moving VBS or vbm over if FDD is overkilling and HoT struggling in MA
FDD wants VBM VBS but she can still do big damage in MA solo
What the best team i can make for this round boss abyss
You have a lot of team options for this actually xd I don't even know what team topscores phys kebin
Prolly Rs Mei FDD

Even sparkle
Depends how it works out with disturbance
Wtf chenxue
Not gonna ask abt that one

I get 747 with this team is it acceptable
no clue, but why use CX op? no Teri OP?
Not have
makes sense then ig
before we even talk about wheather she is good or not, backpulling is not advised.
If you're the type of player who wants to stay in meta its a bad idea to pull her and better to pull for future valks
Good at what? She's BIS dps on her shill, like usual, and has a few bosses as shill. She's a good support for WOD and LoA; usually BiS for WOD, but it varies more in LoA. But she doesn't have as much shill as a new release, can't support grail or ws, doesn't have a lot of brute force potential outside of IMG
wheather she is good or not, well she is the latsest World Star valk whos is best on IMG enemies/bosses
she's not any kind of WS valk
oh QT's here
She's WoD
she isn't?
confused the two my bad
Well. DO you have any Harmonized shadow star supports for her? Any WOD valks she can support, or LOA?
welp, make sure you get her weapon then, otherwise she gets benched
SHe can actually use Horb scythe for supp
DPS is bricked that way tho
and ofc idk if they have horb scythe either
What is her best team as dps?
I will definitely get it
Trust
As a DPS she usually wants HLE Sena. Sometimes Thelema Sena (stuff like bull) or Thelema Lamp (RGBenares)
and ofc if you have specific aops you might end up with something like HLE vita (chenxue)
Yes same sena ||that's free next patch||
spoil that tho
Is that character available in the s option thing?
please spoiler any future patch information outside of #š®cn-gameplay-discussion
|| on both sides
|| text you wanna spoiler ||
||text you wanna spoiler||
like this
|| ok||
Thank youy
Guys i have miss espionage. is there any character who can synergize with her from here
no
Is there that synergizes woth her from the s option thing?
no means no. Miss Espionage wants to work with astral ring characters, and the valkyries in that egg are all very old
Can u recommend a tewm for her
ME, VBm, VBs for free options but who do you have?
#š¶beginner-help message then ME,VBm,VBs
The link for astral ring teambuilding.
if you open up the filters you can tell it to show you only astral ring valkyries, and then if you want to narrow it down more, tell it to only show you heavenly shift and harmonized shadow star
but your account is new enough that just astral ring will narrow it down plenty
Guys, how to do team building, I'm so confused bc it's kinda diff from genshin
See the link I posted right before
What's to take from this box?
Wait until you need one of the mats.
Oh oki
Wafer Stabilizer is the most annoying mat to get but only really needed for affix which is very min-maxy.
Hi, i returned 2 years later and among these valks which of them are still useful and worth further investment?
Quick introduction to Characters, Spiral Abyss, World Exploration, Version Events, and more!
VBm, DA:FL and if we stretching a bit VBs mainly to have a third astral ring valk.
HoHe, HoRB and HoFi really need their stellar key to be useable.
Nothing else sees use beyond Agony 2.
The SP valks are good for SS MA if we cope enough
Tbh yesterday i got very high score on MA
i think my account is fine
I clread elysian realm without struggling at all
I just cannot say for abyss because i currently ranked sinful 1-2 lol
Thank you so much!!
Well generally that isn't exactly taken into consideration since er is pretty easy to clear with most new valks
can i ask for more clarification on what you mean by "very high" in MA, and "cleared" for elysian realm?
What matters in MA is how you place against everyone else in the server. The maximal rewards are in the top 2%. However ranking higher only gives you more ancient willpower to buy more out of date valks in War Treasury shop, so ranking isn't truly important overall.
- We mainly stress to just clear MA without worrying about rankings in order to get challenge rewards for crystals and source prisms.
What matters in Elysian Realm is to get weekly 500 crystals from deep sequence. The minimum difficulty to do this is "abstinence" or 2.25x. As Cay said, this isn't really considered for how good your account is because at worst even farmable A rank Coralie (which anyone can get) can clear that.
Is the 3rd and 4th event doable in 1 day?
3rd event is the latest story chapter. Yes.
4th event is daily gated. Needs around a week to finish.
you get one journey a day until you reached the 7th one
yeah i'm not too concerned about those then. Abyss is really the main meta mode that is stressed since you need to actually build your account well to get the crystals from it, and the crystals you get from it are actually quite plentiful compared to other regular sources in the game.
roughly in one week you can get 2k crystals from regular sources (not including events). Abyss at red lotus retain is half of that (500 per cycle, but 2 cycles happen each week)
Back then i ranked red lotus more than a year but i am not thinking playing meta focused again because it is hell stresfull
Agony 3 would be ok
Agony 3 is probably something you can achieve in a patch or two from where you are starting, luckily
Since it looks like youāre EU
Yes i am
that's fair. Meta doesn't have to be everything. Casually you don't need anything to appreciate story and events. It's fine to aim for an intermediate too
You mostly only have WS supports but ||next patch valk is WS|| which helps
Since ||sena can go on her team and vice versa||
What is WS?
Do you understand how the gacha has changed and how the new team building system works?
WS is world star. It's a term referring to a new team style
World star. One of the astral rings, the one that Sena and VBS have
I watched some videos and it seems new gacha system is more f2p friendly but i have not researched part2 battle mechanics yet
Basically, modern teambuilding is about matching leader astral ring with support tags
Every Valkyrie is a Dps and a supp but not every Valkyrie supports every other Valkyrie
So someone like Sena is WS and wants domain resonance supports; she has domain resonance and harmonized shadow star so she can support WS and WoD
But canāt do much for LoA or RoO or Grail
(Wheel of Destiny for WoD, Law of Ascension for LoA, Rite of Oblivion for RoO, GoI is Grail of Infinitude)
This last patch Valkyrie was a grail, so Sena couldnāt do much for Mei, but ||Silverwing Dkey is WS|| so Sena is useful as a supp
Okaay then after SW DLC I am thinking spending my crystals for 8.9 valk. Actually when we get spending events? I missed this patch
Itās gonna be a while, next one is on ani
yeah so the main gacha changes are
- equipment is not all gacha only now. Only the weapon is gacha only and takes 60 pulls at worst to get. If you don't get all the stigmatas in time, you can use the free stig selector box for the newest release each patch, or craft in foundry
- we don't really alternate between patches of farmable valk and gacha only valk anymore. Most patches are now feature a new gacha only valk release. ||next patch is exceptional and we aren't getting a new gacha only valk there||
- so overall cost for a particular character with her weapon is cheaper but the overall cost is more evened out across multiple patches compared to before
- patches are also longer now so some may see that as there's more time to save
- there's other changes but they are more minor
!faq supply
Hi, Captain! 
Please see Professor Lyo's explanation of every single supply [here](#š¶beginner-help message) and find the banner you want to know about!
can read more details here
It was around december, right? If am right there should be spending event for summer
others seem to have covered team building changes so I won't go into that but you can search !faq ring in the channel to find a more detailed guide.
There will be a mini spending most likely yeah but not a full spending
normally youād expect to get all your stigmata from pulling the weapon, the box and crafting are for if youāre phenomenally unlucky or phenomenally lucky (ie, somehow get no stigs, or get weapon in a 10 pull)
yeah. You don't decide which pieces you get from the gacha since it's rng. So naturally selector box and crafting goes last since you can actually pick with those
I hope i am not xD Okay now probably the best route for my account gettin SW DLC, 8.9 valk and saving for next spending event. If any worthy valk rerun i can pull though
anyway the general ideas of getting full gear with a valk hasn't changed. If you want to build yourself back towards meta, focus more on saving up and only rolling for newest patch releases when you have enough to get valk + weapon. Again this doesn't have to be a full extent (edit:going after every new release). It's fine to aim for something more partial especially if you have only specific interests in the game currently.
You could consider Horb dkey rerun as probably least bad for your account but I would reccomend saving unless you have a lot of crystals spare when it runs
As far as backpulls go itās less bad because itās cheap and a dkey but in general returnees tend to have limited funds
on average, kinda plan on valk + weapon being about 150 pulls, and you get all the stigmata you need from that, plus some extras. you may get lucky and save a few pulls here and there. but donāt plan on lucky because that leads to sadness and panick farming
adding to that, i would try to see if we can get foresight from cn server on what the future valk after that patch will be before deciding to sink your crystals for an inefficient rerun
for foresight, check #š®cn-gameplay-discussion pins for what's officially known
(anything non-officially known is not allowed in this official server)
I thought too but building SW from zero makes sense more because i want to save for new valks too
do you have any particular focus that may not be as meta btw? We can also adjust advice to focus more on that
we default to meta advice in general since that's where the crystals are, but non meta help isn't off the table as long as you can make the goal clear to us and accept the trade offs of not being meta
I dont lol it has been only three days since i returned so i am still figuring out
Currently i am okay with my part 1 teams
yeah that's understandable. Alot has changed and the game being so old is very convoluted still
Focused completing events then i will continue main story
At the very least, now you're aware so feel free to ask down the line if anything comes up
sounds good. Also note the pins here have plenty of general info as well
!faq crystals
Ai-chan is here, Captain! 
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!
Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!
maybe you'll be interested in browsing through this too. The second link cover the time limited missable crystals especially
Thank all of you for the help! 
which you may want to prioritize over main story (technically latest story addition is an event but most people would agree the limited crystals there aren't worth spoiling the story early on if that's what you care about)
Exactly thats why i skipped
you may want to jump into early part 2 story just to pick up free farmable coralie card and her signature weapon though. There's minimal part 1 spoilers early on
!faq cof
Sorry for the confusion, Captain! 
Part 2 of the Main Story will unlock at level 30. Both "Covenant of Finality" and "Genealogical Seat" are part of this storyline.
Main Menu (Bridge) > Attack > Story > Extinguished Starlight and Rekindled Fire > Tides of Time gone by > Click the image to Play!
Actually i have
ah ok then perfect lol
I got when pt2 released
You can see all my valks here
oh ok so i guess you were here when they gave up VBm coralie's full gears for free
yeah i see that now. Didn't check at the time. Sorry that's on me
I even got songque astral op lmao
Then stopped playing
sadness, if youād been playing for the spending event you couldāve gotten her again
I would've gotten mei as well but anyway she could get rerun banner
generally a newly released valk does see a rerun shortly afterwards in future patches
however meta wise for f2p/light spending and long term it's recommended to forget about reruns even at that point
your crystals are too limited to pick up reruns without compromsing picking up new releases (you already can't afford them all reliably/safely) and the mileage you get is diminished
but if you have any particular bias towards a particular rerun, we can work with it. Meta isn't everything and you can still appreciate a recent rerun a good amount.
also on the note of gacha astral ops, they generally aren't recommended for earlier players. Their benefits can matter at the highest level for developed accounts but most players even at RL won't appreciate them enough to justify their costs
!faq gacha op
NOO CAPTAIN! 
If you are a f2p meta player, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).
Reasons:
- Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
- Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30k
).
- AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
- The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.
Are the other dkey valks still being used? Like are they still putting out bosses made for dkey valks
Ish? Luna and Horb are still getting a fair few but HoHE and Hofi are getting a bit rare
Especially if you donāt count Rita weathers that trio can cope but isnāt bis
Ogeh tysm
Also another question
Promoting here wouldn't bring me any problems right? I looked at the schedule and my ||best bet for a fire boss is Lantern, also got no bio types. And bedt bet for the sd boss is HLE i think|| (should i spoiler dem)
Just worried I'll have a hard time trying to do anything if i promote to rl
Lantern is BiS for tank
And then boss after that is phys alien guard
Better question is what SD and Phys valks do you have
Her best team should be Rita HoHE but Sena or hle should function
Oh
Oh okay guess I'll try both sena/hle with vita lantern
My sd choice is just HLE, i have Dudu and Xentinel
My JD doesn't have weap unfortunately
Xentinel does fine with HLE supp
I mean ideally you want Mei HLE Badum but just HlE should be fine for RL
I did Xentinel HLE Luna iirc against jizo
Sure that probably works here if you donāt have FdD or PS
Okay, tysm! I came across a like
Site full of rots and stuff but it's in korean, I'm gonna check it out more later for rotations
Do u guys think it is possible for me to get ME's weapon
how many crystals and how many pulls until pity?
in terms of repeatable sources you can get maybe 10-15 pulls before banner goes away
so anything else towards pity will have to come from 1 time sources
Ok i think ill be able to get it
Tysm
what should i farm
Today? Crystal toward next patch
im still kinda new want good characters and mats and stuff
here this can help #š¶beginner-help message
i got FDD first try
What do HoHo vacation tickets do? I have like 150 of them
it is for Lite-ing the necessary dailies.
Kinda like auto-battle tickets. ~
lets you skip 90% of farming
you may use some of them if you feel lazy doing the other dailies. XD
Oh
Thats cool
also some part of memorial arena too
I got advertized ||divine keys|| since i hit lv50
But when i opened the menu, everything was locked
š
So I finally got SSS VBM coralie, what else should I use my asterites on
you can get them from realms of battle
you can claim one every week
of course you have to finish realms of battle first
rest of the dkeys are obtainable from gacha
or reserve works
So I only got 160 from the wishing event what should I buy from it?
What team should I use for abyss
You can try either XDC or ME DPS, I would assume XDC is better here since she won't get hit by 50% damage loss from wrong damage type, but the fact that she can't properly engage with the mechanics hurts her a lot.
that shows comparable gears and teams ect
like showing gacha or f2p options for certain character
as a support, does EoP and DoG have big difference?
i cant find out really so maybe there is a sheet that would summarise
thats just one example ofc
There are no meaningful f2p options for modern characters it is sig or die for abyss. Wyverein has some numbers on his youtube but rotations vary a lot depending on fight specific factors, so general numbers are all pretty questionable.
Given that GD and HoFi with DoG has no meta value beyond some SS MA strats, it doesn't matter that much beyond if it makes the strat possible.
For HoFi to work as support for a modern team she needs Waxing Moon.
well i was talking about badum kiana i forgot to mention
my bad
On support it is most likely fine but for dps you are losing at least 30% damage so you most likely can't compete.
For support EoPri is better for Badum
Badum works with no wep and EoPri is better
For dps DoG is better but still pretty bricked on most Badum abyss
which
Theyāre all free but sugary starburst you might use to support ||silverwing|| so her
oh I thought I could only choose one
From this you can only choose 1
I see
But theyāre in asterite shop
I started the game 30 minutes ago so I have no one :V
No worry
Except the story freebies
Yeah no worries just wanted to let you know that
Helping new players is the whole point of this channel
Yep
Who is silver wing?
Big bronya
A Bronya battlesuit in the war treasury
You'll see when you reach the certain story point
Mhm
Which one do i pick?
You can get one each week
Oh ok thanks
Np
if I buy this, do I also get the version with the glasses? or is it 2 different outfits?
pretty sure you get both
I bought this yesterday, u get both, unlock the glasses version on valk select>sw>outfit>glasses version>purchase
thank you both for your response 
Can i get all of those rewards without spoiler since i havent finish part 1?
No, latest story chapter has some P1 spoilers (and ofc spoilers for earlier in P2)
wasn't there an achievement when reaching nirvana?
Doesn't look like it
guys what is the best way to get exp
Dailies and spend stamina with story etc
^
Is skipping dialogue finally optional or do you still have to go thru the whole 9 hours to be able to unlock and replay the cutscenes?
Wdym "is skipping dialogue optional" you could always choose not to
if you mean unlock it on the replay cg menu, you still need to watch the cg to unlock it, so if you skip a dialogue that had a cg in the middle, it wont unlock
folk šššš
I can remember that there was some problems with some of the story stages for ER not spawning NPCs properly. You can try to give some more info and ask #štechnical-help. Can always try a repair or reinstall if that doesn't work.
i wasnt able to get enough wishes, what do i get now?
csn snyone help recommend me?
#š¶beginner-help message elf fragments most likely
Silver wing fragment
hey guys question about the dkeys, i am missing some and i can buy them from reserve works. should i buy them? i have 28 balls and paid bp so i could get some stuff.
Yes, dkeys are first priority in reserve works
!faq balls
Hey there, Captain! 
Crystallums are a Battle Pass Currency that can be exchanged for Valkyries and Equipment in the Reserve Works. Captains who purchase Knight or Paladin BP can also access the BP Works of that patch for 3 versions.
There are 3 BP tiers offering different amounts of Crystallums as follows:
-# The totals below account for the 2 Crystallums in the Dorm Shop.
- Vanguard (F2P) BP: 5 per patch
- Knight BP: 18 per patch
- Paladin BP: 24 per patch
It is recommended to spend your Crystallums on Divine Keys that you have yet to collect for permanent account-wide ATK bonuses. See the list [here](#š¶beginner-help message).
oki so i should get these two right?
these are what i got
so its silver wing frag?
Do you have any progress on the next rank for kia elf
Oh hey lyo lao
Hiiii
Highly suggest
no
which one is silver wing?
Is a valk
oh ok hmm i have her i should get har ranks?
Yeah, pretty much
I'd probably still get elf boxes esp since you won't be getting songque aop
sw ranks are always available, elf ranks are a lot harder and kia elf can be better than ds in quite a few cases whereas sw is just gonna be your sw team
But they don't have enough to rank the elf up no?
one more question should i level up dkeys before tuning them?
There is no need for levelling up to tune, so you don't really need to.
thank youu
Yeah but at the same time 4*kia elf will always hold her place against SSS DS in certain situations and high rank SW isn't needed below nirvana
And elf boxes are a consistent part of spendings while we still don't know how they'll handle aops

Is ME worth it?
unless you're willing to whale a full valkyrie backpull, no
you will be behind on crystals for any future pulls otherwise
i mean yes, ME has her use but so does every other new valkyrie release
with the advantage of new releases usually having a longer lifespan
What are you giving up for ME?
Nothing
So you planning on wheling?
No
Usually
Looking at the damn SimP
Im just asking
yes there are exceptions
Oh okay, short answer is no
ME is in my opinion just a check for imaginary bosses that aren't protected by lightning down weather and thats it
she is completely replacable by the next IMG release
for IMG core damage without destroying shells she isn't the best either, RS takes that cake
if there's any
not yet there is
i'm just waiting for it to happen, for example i skipped RS
yes i am screwed until then for any bosses where she's amazing at, but outside of these she isn't even good
also fell flat as a support in any Abyss compared to most other options, just for MA she is alright
thats a thing you need to consider when you're going for older valks, you're not only sacrificing crystals for the ups but also the downs you need to live with
especially when those downs are eliminated by the next new valk
So unless you whel like me, otherwise backpulling is genuinely bad thing to do
And by whel, I mean whel whel, not just goldfishing
Honestly isnt hle the same as RS
I lowkey feel like her dmg is errrr
Even horb dmg is questionable sometimes
Lowkey i feel like her domain resonance deal less dmg than sena
Not really, firstly they cover different niches and HLE is generally a good support while RS has the reputation of being a mediocre support. You also can't really compare raw DMG numbers because you always have to consider things like speed, the boss, the current weather, special mechanics etc
In general the game isn't black or white when it comes to how good a character is it's always situational and changes depending on your needs
Btw who would you call a āgood supportā else than hle
Well for whom, not everyone can support everyone and supports change a lot depending on the boss
btw is ||sw dk|| a decent loa support?
There really isn't a black or white answer to this as I've said and just that you are aware just because someone is good doesn't mean they're worth it to pull
Haven't really kept up with CN beta so no idea
Sooo waifu over meta?
I mean if you say it like that then technically no one is worth it to pull cuz they eventually get replaced
Well everyone will eventually get replaced so you pull what has the best value aka the newest release
Whether or not you wanna be a meta player or more on the casual side is totally up to you, if you wanna compete in the highest rank there won't really be a lot of space for personal driven decisions and if you're a f2p you'll probably end up as a RL/nirv bouncer. If your goal is just to retain RL and maybe bounce back to a3 for a while there is a lot more room for personal driven decisions, generally red lotus isn't really that hard to retain once you have decent coverage and even if you -100 on one or two bosses you will have other opportunities to make up for it
Btw a valk usually keeps a niche for like ~2 years
Their usage will just gradually decrease as they become older
hey, can someone tell me what's in the current beginners supply and whether it's worth pulling?
FWS and FDD and it isn't worth it like always.
Yes, but not really worth backpulling at this point unless you are going to spend a lot.
You can't really afford more then one valk per patch without spending.
that's true... but for beginners, i can't remember anymore, weren't there beginner-supply-specific cards and rewards for pulling in beginner supply or so?
There is a requirement for a single pull and one reduced cost 10 pull. Generally not worth it for an older valk.
Can i get this in time
Wait that says i need to buy bp
If i buy bp now pretty sure it gives me 13 balls...
More the meta pull is new valk every patch
yeah ok thanks š
Might be worth if ur willing to reroll them but i doubt it, since its probs just better to reroll the release valk instead
how do i do adventure tasks
You need to progress the main story of APHO a bit before you unlock them
There'll be a "Tasks" tab at the bottom
fuck man dyk how far in?
Not 100% sure, but shouldn't be far
okok thank you
iirc apho 1 was story chap 1.3 requirement
is it worth it to buy rank up stamps for sw n-ex from the bp shop since i already have her? or should i save for a different unit
first off do u pay for bp?
secondly, did you get the divine keys from reserve works?
I would focus on getting the ranks from War treasury first before BP.
i have the paladin bp (i think that's the second tier). i haven't gotten the divine keys yet
only keys i have are from the event
i would reserve the orbs then, as said above u would focus on getting her ranks from WT
gotcha. is there any unit i should get from WT besides her?
theres a war treasry pin in here that addresses this
bur yeah u want other valks that are in elysian realm for ER crystals and dorm level if not maxed yet
got it, ty

Kinda related to that, I'm running low on currency & I've been getting hohe + sw fragments every week. I think theyre both s2 right now. I assume sw is more worth investing into rn? *nvm hohe is s3, sw s2
Yeah, HoHE is being used very rarely atp
Is ss hohe significant?
I believe her ranks are mostly DMG
Only for DPS
Same with SW, but SW will be fresh
Which means a lot more shill
If you can afford to grab SS without skipping SW frags, I'd do it
Okay thank youu
||once i get sw divine key, since it unlocks her to play with domain resonances characters isnt senadina one?? since we're gettinng her for free|| can i use them tg or is that a COMPLETE bullshit team
also can u genuinely get the valk bp f2p? feels impossible
||yes you can use them together||
okok thank you
||with the free events is there no way to get the characters weapon||?
||they never give the weapon, just the valk. but sena is going to be in reserve shop which is available for f2p players and her weapon will be there too||
will they add it same time? also how hard is it to get stuff from there as a f2p
f2ps get 5 crystallums per patch, and ||sena's weapon will cost 10||
ohhhh okay so itll just make her a bit shit for a patch
||as a support, sena doesn't need her weapon, just her 3pc stig set so you'll just use her as a support for a while||
ag okay do i just use a craftable
||her stigs are craftable from foundry, the weapon you give her before her actual signature weapon doesn't matter||
ohhhh okay thxx
what affix on xdc?
Attack. Crit damage is okay if itās a lot of crit damage
Every boss has different teams
Pretty much every p2 valk has their BiS cases and which you use on a specific boss depends on their gimmick and who you have
well dang
Usually only the DPS is non negotiable admittedly but which supports score best is also something that changes
Like take Miss Espionage. Usually she wants HLE Sena. But in bull, she wants Thelema for evasion malding, and on RGBenares she wants Lantern and Thelema for the symphony bonus
even if a character has a bis team, you often have to change the team to accommodate the boss
Typically we reccomend only picking up new releases if youāre F2P
Youāll catch up in time and itās more crystal efficient
But right now is a strange time
So as a beginner thereās a strong argument to grab either Badum or FDD from beginner banner
Both are pretty similarly good
You can then try and pick up silverwing from the war treasury; ||sheās getting a new wep next patch that lets her support Badum and vice versa||
Low-key I wanna grab FDD rank if possible
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2 atk 2 high crit dmg. Or 3 atk 1 high crit dmg
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Attack is a little better than crit damage
5 and 1 should be better than 4 and 2 unless youāre trading a good crit damage line for a bad attack line
Whats considered good atk? I got a stig with 11 atk 17 atk
20+ is usually considered good. 17 is okay if youāre low on NCCs. 11 is a bad line
I really do not recommend gunning for good affixes if you're still early in development and haven't reached the higher tiers of the game or have a specific scenario to really appreciate that difference yet.

affixes being rng means they can be very costly to invest in, and even at max their benefits are still smaller compared to missing gears, valks, playing well
Does RL count as early in development?
yes i can consider it that way if you're only bouncing into it or aren't ranking 1-3 in it
Apiss RL
Theyāre all abyss
and ofc i'm talking exalted (captain lv 81+) but i suppose that isn't immediately obvious to unfamiliar people (i think everyone here would be though)
anyway i only intend for this to be a quick warning. I don't want to stretch this out more than needed
Some beginners can show their double 20 line XDC meis when they don't even have symbiosis supports yet
So I need like 20 per affix to get total of 40+ on the whole stig?
I know, am just genuinely wondering if I should start mald for affix
ideally you get as close to it as possible to have as much atk as possible but i mean
what really matters is how many hits it takes to finish off the boss or how fast you clear it
sometimes these affixes can save you one more hit and save slight time that way
but if going from 21->23 still makes you clear in the same amount of hits, then it's not doing anything is it?
46 per stig for a total of 138 per set. :V
so that's why i said one of the cases is if you have a specific scenario in mind
also
there can be rare times where you may want to change your affixes because you need something else
Wait so I should keep my extra stigs?
maybe a different kind of damage multiplier to suit a particular part of a character's kit, or maybe you suddenly need to deal elemental hits, or maybe you need sp
again very rare. In most cases just go atk nowadays
if you don't have an immediate need for prisms then yes this is one of the reasons why i tell people to keep dupes just in case
but if you need the prism then it's really prob not going to be a concern
I definitely need the prisms
yeah don't worry about it too much then
but also don't worry about affixes too much for now if you're missing stig levels. 46 stated affixes aren't going to compensate for that probably unless you have a specific scenario in mind
there can be an argument of spending a little bit to get one decent line (15 or so) per stig but it's rng
I only have a few with 21. But only 1 affix not double
Aight, guess I need to start doing affix than, my stigma don't have anything good on it 
the idea is if you're lacking so much, affixes are a bigger portion of the current pie of your damage so to speak, but i personally do not endorse that argument
i mainly go by actual scenarios but the game is too dynamic (there's too many factors) for me to give general rules there
Argument about what, I am on RL, am just genuinely asking if I should do so 
so just monkey it out and get the affixes when you feel you could need them
about this @gleaming sandal
Ah, gotcha
so pot are you in RL retain or are you trying for t3 RL where nirvana dropouts are?
exalted ofc
but tbh even if i ask you this, my answer isn't really going to change
i will still tell you to only affix if you find a specific case where you're slightly off from getting a needed improvement to your score to change your rankings to reach that t3 or save yourself from demote or something
the only exception is if your account is so well off you're overflowing in resources, in which case it's more fine to do it preemptively. But i mean, I've dumped 1 mill asterite for nothing to show for it before.
Am going to nerdbanana
I can RL retain with no problems
hm then yeah you can consider it more but if you're low on resources i will still consider it only on a case by case basis
!faq affix
Hello, Captain! 
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for the in-depth Affixing guide!
Overall, you should only affix Best-in-Slot Stigmata and generally aim to get as much Atk as possible on your DPS Valkyries first. Ensure that the Battlesuit/Weapon Type matches what the Affix line demands otherwise the Atk will not apply.
Remember only Physical Damage can crit, and "crit ratios" do not apply to Honkai Impact 3rd.
anyway you can check this out if you haven't yet
Aight, currently low on coin and astroid, just spend money on rank I guess 
Sorry for the late bump in topic but I just want to add more information to what Jahjab already have said for your consideration.
Keep in mind the main priority with bp orbs is for divine keys you're still lacking that are in reserve work shop (except judah and pledge of sakura which you can get elsewhere). Each gives you +10 atk to all your valks (abyss flower and fenghuang down needs a few more steps+costs though) which isn't much on its own, but does add up meaningfully. If you're not concerned with high tiers of abyss, then you can disregard this more though.
But on the other hand as mentioned before, Sena as a support doesn't benefit too much from the weapon such that the 10 orb cost might be too much. https://i.imgur.com/YXYI3QG.png
- Her main notable support use are for Wheel of Destiny teams where she can stay entirely/mostly off field so you can focus more on using your main dps.
- If you are quite new and are lacking better supports for World Star teams but you picked up Songque astral op from spending event, you may consider using sena to get a bunch of initial ARI to get to your Stellar Outburst sooner in battle. This isn't always going to be beneficial but it's a consideration.
Aside from support, I want to ask do you have other character's maxed out gacha drive cores to use on Senadina? I presume not if you're considering her as support to ||SW|| but just in case, Vita's weapon can be a cope budget option (still too much of a loss for high RL/nirvana). https://i.imgur.com/aSZpVw7.png Overall we don't really expect too much primary use cases for Sena dps at this point but if your roster is lacking, maybe you can still appreciate her as a dps.
Source video for the images: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dkbHmfqvGA
Or weapon sync could work too
!faq crystallum
Hey there, Captain! 
Crystallums are a Battle Pass Currency that can be exchanged for Valkyries and Equipment in the Reserve Works. Captains who purchase Knight or Paladin BP can also access the BP Works of that patch for 3 versions.
There are 3 BP tiers offering different amounts of Crystallums as follows:
-# The totals below account for the 2 Crystallums in the Dorm Shop.
- Vanguard (F2P) BP: 5 per patch
- Knight BP: 18 per patch
- Paladin BP: 24 per patch
It is recommended to spend your Crystallums on Divine Keys that you have yet to collect for permanent account-wide ATK bonuses. See the list [here](#š¶beginner-help message).
wait from where? Is this VBm and VBs syncs?
VBm syncs can be ok. I think of each sync as 1% team overall dmg loosely speaking which might make a difference similar to affix especially when scores are being so close high in the game.
VBs syncs are not worth it even if you actually have her weapon.
No, am talking aboot all the S rank valk wep
Can just pull 
the only way i'll recommend that is with non pull methods like the previous mini spending where everyone gunned for fdd +2
rip lantern costume
if you must pull a weapon dupe, the objective answer is prob going to be for a stellar key for +5 atk
Oh, I had done that
wow did they happen in the same 10 roll or did you went out of your way for them?
at any rate i lost bearing on how this relates to affixes and its resources then
but it also seems like you know what you need to know for now unless you have any other questions before i go lol
Let just say, I wasn't considering affix could be that big of a deal before you explained it
So my stigma affix is all shit atm 
oh so how they compare. Ok i see
it's all atk at that point so it's easier to see there once you're aware lol
Thanks btw
but yeah it's a funny thought when a +2 or +3 is just fixing two of your 20 lines to a 23 or something lol
(edit: ofc the actual value is having both but this is whale at that point)


any video guides for this abyss?
Can check out #video-creations . Hieu Le also has one on yt
ok ty
To pull or for this abyss?
For this abyss itās phys up lightning down. So Rita is a good supp for dudu or Sus
But her dps is pretty bricked
To pull sheās not reccomended unless you love her or are whaling
for this abyss
Yeah look at weather
Doesnāt favor her
So sheās bis supp but canāt rlly dps
If you donāt have mini Dudu you can use Mei or sushang
i do have dudu,im using the recommended team rn
but im struggling with the rot it seems
ok agony 3 here i come š
Aight Abyss time! Kevin Mk3
Though difficulty suddenly increased, still manage to do 900's w/ ME on the team. For other supports though, can't end it with just 1 or 2 CA on RS anymore, much more difficulty on 2nd phase, still easy with Teriri cause of that 2x QTE but for DS it's getting tougher ngl.
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If you got mini Dudu can copy one of these
So many supp options thereās probably an exact match for whatever Hs you got
ok thx, ill try later
No ME no PE no Teri, no RL and -100 for you 
Idk what I can score with XDC FWS HLE 
950 trust 
Also hey ridley
Doubtful and Helo pot
900 Sounds rough but like 870-880 is prob possible
Rs xdc fws?
Can also try RS/fdd/FWS ig
Guys why cant i redeem invitation codes?
ah okay tuank youu!
you might be too high level
Oh ok thankaa
I'm missing 7 gems from the lobby event. Could that be from the lucky draw or something else?
You missed it
it's from the table and you missed a day
np
How do errands refresh work? Is the rank stay every refresh or it goes random? Like if i refresh B rank errand it can became A or S?
No
RL?
current best in EU Nirvana with SS CX scored 678
RL score will be above that but idt it will be comparable to RS with her 900+ scores
Yeah
Currently have 742
Guys if i make accounts can i redeem the invitation code of my main account?
Yes
Probably will take awhile though
10 days max to get the rewards for your main account
Cuz iirc u need 14k bp points
Lvl 50 can be done in like a day
Or two just speedrun story
Its one of the two
Probably 40 for new accounts and 50 for returnees
Cause i remember making 5 salts in a day just for that
Emulator do wonders



