#šŸ‘¶beginner-help

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eager creek
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is part 2 of the game like open world kind of thing?

shell basin
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Yes

eager creek
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oh

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is it like an entire different story

ancient needle
eager creek
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?

ancient needle
eager creek
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ok

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i kinda skipped some part 1 to get to lv 30 to get to part 2 for character

abstract sequoia
eager creek
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is that why theres a skip button

abstract sequoia
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no

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it's a likely reason why part 2 doesn't need part 1 context until chapter 3-ex

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so you can enjoy it in it's own way and get into it without needing all info of part 1

eager creek
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but can i have a brief expanation of the first few chapters of part one hehe

abstract sequoia
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well first few chapters wouldn't way much anyway

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but if you want explanations, check #šŸ“šhonkai-lore and its pins

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the other help channels are a spoiler-free zone for those who dislike them

eager creek
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why is all the words censored

abstract sequoia
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[CN] means the content of that story is only out on chinese servers right now

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discussion is allowed of that, but it needs to be spoilered

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we're getting that a few weeks later

eager creek
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how do i get 400 pt

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oh i played chinese version before

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my hoyolab said i was lv 40

abstract sequoia
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yeah, cn server is a few weeks ahead of us

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eager creek
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weird when i googled it it said global is faster

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lyric anvil
abstract sequoia
eager creek
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i think of chatgpt

abstract sequoia
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okay chatgpt is not only wrong in a lot of topics, its many years behind for correct information

eager creek
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ik

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its not like im gonna complain a few weeks back

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umamusume takes longer

abstract sequoia
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umamusume is actually kinda a similar case with how hi3 was released globally

eager creek
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i play on umamusume taiwan serv so

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faster then global

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but slower then jp ofc

abstract sequoia
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the difference for us was that we got the first initial year's content in an abridged form and it slowly sickered into future patches

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until we were only a few weeks behind and eventually got the same schedule as CN

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anything you see on wikis that released in 1.8 likely released earlier in CN, 1.8 is just the first global patch

eager creek
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well china censor a lot of stuff in games so imma stick with global

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plus i got a pretty strong character over here

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eager creek
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even though i can read both languages

abstract sequoia
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so there were a few context errors here and there

eager creek
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i mean i live in hk so

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i decided to play global because i like reading english more

abstract sequoia
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i see

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the quality is still great, just the sometimes weird context errors is something to keep in mind

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#šŸ“šhonkai-lore does point out a lot of them

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feel free to ask anytime there about that

eager creek
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nice i got the hammer and the character im gonna go back to playing part 1

quick wing
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how often do the starter banner valks change

grizzled raven
hybrid isle
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chat is there a faster way for me to increase my captain level instead of story?

eager creek
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why am i only allowed to use the part 1 characters in some part 1

hybrid isle
eager creek
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what if maybe part 2 characters are too op for part 1 content

quick wing
hybrid isle
eager creek
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dang it

hybrid isle
quick wing
quick wing
hybrid isle
eager creek
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well part 2 is like an open world like hsr

quick wing
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except you can jump

eager creek
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u can jump too yes

shadow gyro
hybrid isle
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how do i beat them without her getting corrupted cus istg she gets corrupted so fast

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OH U JUST WAIT IT OUT

serene crystal
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Activating Ultimate evasion loses you herrscher charge.

serene crystal
hexed glacier
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Any uses for duplicate? Or should i salvage it since no one else can use this stigma effectively?

hexed glacier
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Oki

quick wing
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just salvage them everytime if we’re talking prisms at least

hexed glacier
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Ue, i see okies, well more mats never hurts

hardy lintel
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i cant defeat the kevin boss and this is all i got left

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the farthest ive gotten is defeating the first face, but after that i couldn't do much from how low hp i ended

slim blaze
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time to activate enhanced mode! or just dodge better

hardy lintel
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active what?

quick wing
hardy lintel
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this is what i hearing rn

quick wing
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you don’t really have any other option šŸ’”

hardy lintel
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for context is a dragon ball parody in which picoro is constantly telling Gohan to dodge better after he already got beaten up

jade garnet
slim blaze
abstract sequoia
# grizzled raven source...?

I was mostly taking this from me and other players noticing how japanese honorifics are sometimes used between characters. Against my own argument however, I do not know how honorifics are used in chinese and only using Honorifics as a basis for other unrelated translations errors that could also just happen from CN > EN probably wasn't the smartest thought process. Just be safe:
@eager creek I'm retracting that statement about the EN translation coming from JP, you're better to judge that than me especially since you can read the story without needing any translations, while still preferring English.

steep ridge
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I got a offert

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If I spend 1500 gems I get 10 dorm supply cards

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Is a good offert?

abstract sequoia
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no, spending any crystals or bchips on dorm cards is a scam

glad ice
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dorm is worst

abstract sequoia
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the supply only provides you with already long dead valkyries

glad ice
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only use free dorm card

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keep 20 ready for spending event btw

abstract sequoia
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no rush on that but yeah, there are spending events on big patches where you can get tokens for a special shop, depending on how many crystals you're using on supplies

steep ridge
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Okey 😭

abstract sequoia
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dorm supply usually has 2 missions goals with up to 20 pulls needed to complete these

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which free dorm supply cards can give you, not affecting your crystals

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one card is always worth 1 pull, that's consistent for every banner so consider any other supply card equal to 280 crystals

hardy lintel
jade garnet
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Oh that's fine

jade garnet
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You might be lacking some damage as compared to the ref since you dont have the skill maxed and might be missing some atk, but the big thing that matters is the initial ARI

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You can adjust accordingly

grizzled raven
hardy lintel
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thanks šŸ™šŸ‘

steep ridge
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Pull for caroline or

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The other character

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The purple one

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Rita

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junior cliff
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Guys

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Should i continue trying to get miss espionage? Or continue for SW

outer spruce
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junior cliff
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OMG

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I LOVE SEELE but i think i wont be able to stop myself from pulling

left vale
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you can do it

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stay strong

dont get rita

junior cliff
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Wait sw dkey is in the equipment banner right?

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And sw is available on the s option thing

left vale
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correct but ||sw dk not announced for glb yet so pls spoiler||

left vale
junior cliff
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Oh wait

left vale
junior cliff
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Oh ok

junior cliff
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Is it still worth it to pull for SW even if im not able to get her dkey

left vale
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? you cant pull for silverwing anymore

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she is free in like 3 different ways

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shes in WT, reserve works (iirc), and in the latest S-rank box (+ future ones)

junior cliff
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Oh yeah i forgot lol

junior cliff
outer spruce
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outer spruce
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||sw and seele will most likely be compatible with each other||

lime talon
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what should i spend 190 anniversary annulon on

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shell basin
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Probably SW frags but specific accounts might vary

wintry slate
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Planning to finally start playing hi3.
Got a few questions:

What's the game size on mobile?

Is it a good time to start now aka any freebies such as selector, high pulls etc?

Is it f2p friendly?

and the most important of all...
Is Kiana x Mei truly REAL?
(cuz I'm a yuri fan)

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shell basin
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You just missed the best patch to join in; especially since you seem interested in Mei, her banner left yesterday. right now is a little rough for newbies in terms of new release banners, but better now than in a few weeks and the beginner banners are actually decent for once

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The game is F2P friendly if you just want to collect characters or compete a moderate amount in endgames; it’s possible to reach the highest tier, Nirvana, with some consistancy as a F2P

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But retaining Nirvana as f2P is much harder, much less getting say consistant top 50 or 10 or 5

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So if you have goals of doing that then F2Ps will struggle

shell basin
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Mechanics wise the newest Mei has special skills for being on a team with Kiana, which mostly means Badum being BiS supporting Xentinel and Xentinel being BiS supporting Badum, but that’s a different question

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Hopefully that covers everything but feel free to ask more questions if you got em

sly vale
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What am i supposed to pull for at the start? Any of this two or smth else?

wicked cargo
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Wait that banner is still up!?!?!

shell basin
wicked cargo
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Oh just saw the days. Oke

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Ah man no fair, mine was senadina songque

shell basin
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On net I would consider Badum to be a slightly better pull than FDD

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But it’s close and if you have any personal preference between them I would pick that one

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You could also consider going for both but that’s a significantly larger investment and I wouldn’t do it unless you liked them as characters or were in a rush to start competing in endgame (or were rerolling)

misty wadi
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Is the crit DMG still works, since it's fully rolled I want to keep it if it's good

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misty wadi
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I've just returned to the game at helia PAWS release, and as I can see the ATK is the most prior stat šŸ˜„ I wonder if anyone do it differently

shell basin
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These days

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Thelema used to have some Ma Strats that wanted some SP lines but not anymore

wicked cargo
shell basin
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For Mei? Yeah, 23 attack is better than max crit

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Not a lot better but a little

wicked cargo
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Is there a list of p2 battlesuits that are different

shell basin
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Like I mentioned, Horb and JDS want a handful of good crit lines (though also want attack, since you get diminishing returns from stacking the same bonus)

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And Rs can also use it but I don’t remember the tradeoffs

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Peregrine sword is bleed so she doesn’t use crit damage

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And everyone else is elemental so they don’t crit

lone crater
low ridge
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What teams for memorial Arena?

shell basin
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And then xdc FDD (Luna or paws) on beast of sacrifice

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And then you can do P1 Thelema to 0sec aka

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HoFS Thelema say

low ridge
shell basin
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Ah good both the refs use chen

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So that works great

forest oyster
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are there any worth valk to buy on this currency?

low ridge
shell basin
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You don’t need either for another boss tho

odd plume
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i hate the transition phase for this boss, too long and easy to mess up BEPat

lyric anvil
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Agreed

tame briar
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Umnh what does monthly pass give if buy?

shell basin
tame briar
shell basin
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60 a day

pine torrent
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who should i build here for my first team? im trying to get Ba dum fro mstarter banner but i dont want to reroll lol

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shell basin
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You’ll want to focus on building Valkyrie Blastmetal since she’s your best support for Badum when you get her but until then you can use some of these teams

pine torrent
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thank you!! will do.

hybrid isle
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how many story chapters r there like this cus they take so long

serene crystal
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A lot, time wise you are probably around 30ish % through part 1.

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Or are you asking for this chapter?

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@hybrid isle

hybrid isle
serene crystal
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We are hitting the point where story chapters are long enough that they aren't the most time efficient source of crystals anymore. So if you are doing it for crystals it can be worth checking somewhere else.

hybrid isle
serene crystal
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Levelling up is mainly just using stamina. Story gives a slight increase but you can just do dorm expeditions to burn stamina if you don't feel like doing story right now.

hybrid isle
serene crystal
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For rewards you should unlock it and do the weekly mission at least. ER also has some story connected to it, chronologically the story here is notably later then where you are currently so for minimum spoilers you should probably wait. See the playorder pinned in #šŸ“šhonkai-lore

serene crystal
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I do find that ER isn't very enjoyable if you do a lot of it back to back as it can become very repetitive and the order forces you to basically only do ER for a long time, so if you don't care that much about spoilers you can do it earlier to spread it out.

sly vale
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Is hersscher of the void good? I got her for free

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sly vale
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Thank you!

junior cliff
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Guys where to redeem invitation code?

shell basin
junior cliff
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How to finish this i already did floor 10

hybrid isle
teal smelt
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8.5 bp (thelema) leaves bp shop next patch right

shell basin
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yes

teal smelt
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trying to get thelema weap BronyaRip_nopies

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ty

hybrid isle
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since im like desperate for crystals rn is it worth doing the events? theyre lowk so boring

junior cliff
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Guys is memorial arena worth trying as a beginner?

limber storm
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are a big chunk of the possible crystals in the endgame? I started around a month ago and Ive done the story till ch 33, all 3 chapters of elysian realm and Ive only pulled one S rank being xentinel mei ( had to buy crystals too)
compared to the later games this game feels less generous early on

shadow gyro
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its more about having time to do the content u have since youre gated by stuff like stamina or valks to add in er and whatnot
but the sources are generous

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junior cliff
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Where and how to do the "Main story Part 2"

quick birch
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!faq cof

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# quick birch !faq cof
How to find "Covenant of Finality"

Sorry for the confusion, Captain! AichanCry

Part 2 of the Main Story will unlock at level 30. Both "Covenant of Finality" and "Genealogical Seat" are part of this storyline.

Main Menu (Bridge) > Attack > Story > Extinguished Starlight and Rekindled Fire > Tides of Time gone by > Click the image to Play!

quick birch
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after that quest you need to complete another story mission in p2 just follow the same path and continue the quest

junior cliff
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BRO IDIDNT NOTICE

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NO WONDER I DIDNT GET THE STORY

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I WAS PLAYING INTERLUDE

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Thank u guys!!!

hybrid isle
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how many copys of an a rank do u need to get them to triple s

wicked cargo
wicked cargo
wicked cargo
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A ranks just get stats, and its 50 each

hybrid isle
wicked cargo
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because you can get them in shop or pulls.

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but its highly recommended and not really sacrificial to get things like VBM coralie to SSS

wicked cargo
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also pick up her weapon in p2 story when you have time, its quick and free

fallen shale
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is Thelema with her weapon good?

wicked cargo
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err ye I think so. It's pretty quick, but it won't be like a cutscene where they just give it after dialogue. Gotta do this little grinding thats pretty quick.

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but they will give you a free vbm, so ideally you get that first before getting shop copies

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# fallen shale is Thelema with her weapon good?

She sees some limited use as support for some WoD teams where she can farm ARI via dodges if I remember correctly and are used for her bosses but they are quite rare. I would not spend pulls on it.

hybrid isle
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is it worth trying to complete the part 1 story in a few days? i have about 10k crystals left from story

serene crystal
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Not really, later parts slow down how fast you get crystals and there is nothing that you would need crystals for right now.

serene crystal
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Yes and next patch is not in a few days.

hybrid isle
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lament sparrow
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why cant i dodge the first attack

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is it undodgeable?

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i have no skill issues trust me

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okay i need to jump

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so in part 2 they introduced mix up attacks from enemies where certain attacks will have a specific colored shine and have to be dodged in a particular way

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yellow flashes are horizontal attacks and must be jumped

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very purple flashes are vertical and must be evaded normally rather than jumping

wicked cargo
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@spiral badge what teams do you recommend for durandal reign solaris

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do you have a specific context you're considering this against?

junior cliff
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Who is on the next banner after miss espionage?

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and what other valks do you own?

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i'm not going to suggest anything you don't have

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you understand how to build around her ring type right?

junior cliff
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I am 30 pulls away from my guarantee. Im now gonna wait or either pull for a very new character

wicked cargo
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# junior cliff I am 30 pulls away from my guarantee. Im now gonna wait or either pull for a ver...

yeah i'm going to suggest waiting. It seems next patch ||we don't have any new valks being added to the game though, so you're going to be waiting for an extended while before you can make use of that guarantee.|| It's a bit questionable how you even build up that far in your guarantee tbh. In the future I recommend not rolling unless you can be absolutely sure you can guarantee both valk and her respective weapon before the banner goes away.

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junior cliff
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!faq buildpity

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# spiral badge !faq buildpity
Building Pity

Captain, please stop now! AichanAngery
Building pity is a really bad idea. It’s better to save those juicy crystals for what you are actually planning to get.

There are many reasons to not build pity. It's not worth it in 99% of situations.
Please read them and reconsider whether you actually need to build pity:

  • Some banners do not carry pity into others, Please confirm it carries over before even considering building pity.
  • There are events with added rewards for rolling during their durations. Any pity built beforehand will not count towards them!
  • Building pity will risk getting "lucky" with the Valkyrie/weapon early. This resets your pity. A dupe or an incomplete Valkyrie will not be greatly beneficial!
  • If opting to build pity on a weapon supply, it's likely to miss out on later newer stigmas and end up overspending rolls or crafting materials to get them.

-# Depending on the situation, you can build pity during a spending event to reach a certain milestone. Please ask a St. Freya Professor before making any decisions as crystals could go toward units that are more worthwhile.

wicked cargo
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riiight :X

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earlier this patch there was a spending event going on so it was somewhat justified but spending event rewards are more... "falling off the meta stuff" that i still wouldn't encourage building pity for the pure sake of it. A new gacha valk without her weapon will underperform greatly too

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I have a question, i have 30 pulls from my guarantee. Does that mean i am 30 pulls away from SW Dkey? Or its a different banner

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# wicked cargo Yes Sairaan I understand tags, but surely there's more synergy than just tags

yes and no. Technically there can be a best across other members but as long as things match the difference is actually not that great (5-10%. can be 15% for exceptional cases)

The main way a particular valk can shine otherwise is by context. What enemy are you facing against? Does it have particular utility you need from a very specific valk like bleeding from PS or LV?

wicked cargo
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does it help that my durandal reign solaris is SS with sig

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junior cliff
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this is kinda another reason why building pity isn't a good idea. While you'll make use of it eventually, you're committing a portion of your crystals that you cannot take back and put it into a more appropriate place at the right time

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there's no need for a banner to spend crystals on for her

quick birch
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So I have Reign Solaris Durandal, Hi Love Elf Elysia, Lone Planetfarer Vita, Miss Espionage Rita, Xentinel Dawnbearing Crescent Mei, Ba Dum Kiana, and SSS VBM coralie

lyric anvil
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They asked what's after ME's banner KianaDumb

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what ring type is RS? What tags of those valks match with that?

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and i'm going to ask again, do you have a particular enemy in mind that you're fighting against?

wicked cargo
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Law of ascension with heavenly shift harmonizing shadow star and symbiosis

quick birch
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ok hang on

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i'm not asking about RS' tags

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don't give me the whole bucket

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i can't tell if you understand what i'm getting at if you do that

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yeah as a leader dps we really only care about her ring type

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the matching tag to that is heavenly shift

junior cliff
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Is planar armament a character?

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if you try to stuff in HLE into an RS dps team, you're not going to have a good time because HLE isn't going to give you any additional effects with her QTEs

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junior cliff
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Is she good?

quick birch
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She has her bosses but she's fallen off a bit since her release, not really worth to pull atp imo

lyric anvil
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She's getting close to a year old

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in general if you're looking for something good to pull, stick with new releases of the patch only

quick birch
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It's not really about if a character is good or not but rather what you will get out of them and how long they will last you

wicked cargo
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Really hoping for a new bio ||No SW bronya for me||

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i gave you an overview a while ago about the game's strucutre and why recommendations for the meta are the way they are. You may want to review this @junior cliff

wicked cargo
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All I see is psychic in abyss CoralieSob

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oh i guess i didn't elaborate specifically enough about abyss

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lyric anvil
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Physical

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lyric anvil
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ok long ago i talked about why the meta is important. Sorry i didn't explain enough about what abyss is.

First of all abyss changes in scenario (weather and enemies) two times each week. This means you can't rely on only one team to clear everything. Think about how genshin changes its abyss, except it's much more frequent here.

Second of all, eventually in superstring (captain lv 81+) you contest against other players for high scores. This is why skipping weapons and losing 30-40% personal damage is a bad idea and won't work so well here in hi3. Everybody else you're up against high in abyss will have these weapons.

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@junior cliff

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wicked cargo
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if you got all the rewards from q-manifold then you're fine probably.

If it's physical weather then RS is certainly appropriate but i feel XDC might be an even better choice since she's more new. What enemy are you fighting against?

you can also show us a video of your gameplay and we can comment more specifically how to improve

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if this is superstring, there's no such thing as getting all the rewards until abyss finalizes placements in half an hour. Some people can redo their scores last minute and change your placings, resulting in changing your finalization rewards

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but also talk to me more about what you're using to support RS. I already gave you an example of what NOT to do.

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Also weather right now is physical down in Superstring but not the topic

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yeah i mean that's how i assumed q-mani to begin with

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i actually really need to go soon but others can still help if you still want to understand RS as a support. Tbh RS really isn't a notable support if you have other things that shares her tags to use instead.

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# wicked cargo So I have Reign Solaris Durandal, Hi Love Elf Elysia, Lone Planetfarer Vita, Mis...

also i'm sorry you had to type all these out fully. Feel free to use abbreviations next time if you know them.

Your h.shift valks are LP, ME, XDC, FWS. As long as you use some combination of them, it'll prob be solid enough for now but since you're stressing for additional details

LP is a bit slow but she provides team breach to ignore a portion of the enemy's defense/resistance. Possibly one of your stronger options.

ME and FWS are generally quite fast in animations. I think both restores higher ARI than normal when evading incoming attacks (ME more than FWS).

  • i don't own ME so i might be off about some details
    ME might further help deal some core damage to img enemies that RS should be used against? However beware as a support her personal damage may not be notable (esp if the weather is phys up with lightning down), and a stronger support for better RS damage might be preferred instead.

I can't recall if anything about XDC as an H.shift support is notable. I think she can still insta kill bio mobs but that prob isn't notable for RS dps cases.

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I see

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i don't see you because i'm hopping off now. byyyye

lyric anvil
wicked cargo
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how do I check if lightning is down?

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but you're prob not at the point of the game to be seeing stuff like this yet

wicked cargo
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yes I'm uhh the thing at 80

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uh breakthrough?

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!faq breakthrough

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yes

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# spiral badge !faq breakthrough
Breakthrough

Hello, Captain! AichanWave

[Click here](#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message) for more information regarding Breaking through to Exalted (Captain Level 81+).

Short Answer:

  • It is highly recommended to break through for better rewards, but be aware that it is irreversible!
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have you gone through this faq yet?

wicked cargo
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I have, but I have not memorized

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if you already chose to breakthrough then it's too late anyway

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and it's prob fine since most people would opt to go to 81+

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it's just every once in a while we do run into people who really don't prefer the changes

wicked cargo
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I saw the part where it says highly recommended

slim blaze
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More crystals more power!

wicked cargo
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well I figured since I have like 8 p2 characters it would be fine

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me thinks

slim blaze
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Well, as long as you maintain

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A3

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it'll be more about if you have enough latest releases

wicked cargo
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you can kinda think of a conveyer belt or treadmill

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new things fall on the line while older stuff fall off

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so it's not really about pure quantity eventually if you go high enough

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it's more about do you have enough concentrated coverage for the current meta

slim blaze
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if they're already asking what it is, giving them a meme answer prob isn't going to help

wicked cargo
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Has ME rita fallen off

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a3 is agony 3

wicked cargo
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Uhh, how high is that from red lotus

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she's being stressed this weather in superstring currently

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right below

slim blaze
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NOOOOOOOOO

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you'll find more use cases in the future. She's still relatively new. It's just it gets less and less as time goes on which is why we stress focusing on latest releases

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but anyway all that aside

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i don't want to discredit 8 p2 valks completely. It's good to have a good amount of various ring types and tags to not only cover a variety of scenarios (even second best in lower tiers can be enough) but also just to have a support foundation for newer stuff coming along

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most earlier player problems is because they lack that infrastructure to support the new shiny gacha valk they just got

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because tags for newer ring types aren't farmable

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# wicked cargo NOOOOOOOOO

also be careful of saying stuff like this because the bot will auto bonk anyone who spams one letter or emote or something

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anyway any further questions before i go for real?

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going back to RS, technically she can also be used as a support to physical non-astral ring teams. However, newer players shouldn't have anything well built for that, and it's mostly out of meta at this point.

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anyway i'm hopping off for real now. gl beginner help

lyric anvil
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Cya Sai VitaWave

wicked cargo
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good night

reef perch
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so now that i have silverwolf n-ex (thanks returnee fund) what now? i'm not really putting much resources into my FDD team and don't have a secondary team yet

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right now to clear memorial arena i just pull together a random lightning team with HoT, FR, and GD but ik that's not the best

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i forgot the units i was suggested to use for HoT, i think it was RC and someone else but idk how to get them. i think RC is in war treasury?

shell basin
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RC is in asterite shop

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she's a generalist support, not amazing for HoT but gives useful buffs and fast

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I would definitely expect better than FR but wouldn't predict miracles out of her

quick birch
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@shell basin this is everyone i've got

shell basin
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In that case yeah I would just save up for ||SW Dkey|| next patch and prolly HoT DPs for second boss. But you can consider moving VBS or vbm over if FDD is overkilling and HoT struggling in MA

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FDD wants VBM VBS but she can still do big damage in MA solo

spring kestrel
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What the best team i can make for this round boss abyss

frozen crypt
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You have a lot of team options for this actually xd I don't even know what team topscores phys kebin

shell basin
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Prolly Rs Mei FDD

frozen crypt
shell basin
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Maybe Badum tho

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Worth trying both

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Even sparkle

frozen crypt
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Even sparkle

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Depends how it works out with disturbance

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Wtf chenxue

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Not gonna ask abt that one

spring kestrel
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I get 747 with this team is it acceptable

urban lake
spring kestrel
urban lake
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makes sense then ig

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Guys...

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Is miss espionage good?

urban lake
# junior cliff Is miss espionage good?

before we even talk about wheather she is good or not, backpulling is not advised.
If you're the type of player who wants to stay in meta its a bad idea to pull her and better to pull for future valks

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Good at what? She's BIS dps on her shill, like usual, and has a few bosses as shill. She's a good support for WOD and LoA; usually BiS for WOD, but it varies more in LoA. But she doesn't have as much shill as a new release, can't support grail or ws, doesn't have a lot of brute force potential outside of IMG

urban lake
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wheather she is good or not, well she is the latsest World Star valk whos is best on IMG enemies/bosses

shell basin
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she's not any kind of WS valk

urban lake
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oh QT's here

shell basin
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She's WoD

urban lake
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she isn't?

shell basin
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nop

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She's WoD with LOA supp tag

urban lake
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oh f*** i meant WoD

junior cliff
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I caved in and got her..

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I will make the best out of it

urban lake
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confused the two my bad

shell basin
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Well. DO you have any Harmonized shadow star supports for her? Any WOD valks she can support, or LOA?

urban lake
shell basin
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SHe can actually use Horb scythe for supp

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DPS is bricked that way tho

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and ofc idk if they have horb scythe either

urban lake
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welp i'll leave it to you

junior cliff
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What is her best team as dps?

junior cliff
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Trust

shell basin
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and ofc if you have specific aops you might end up with something like HLE vita (chenxue)

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Yes same sena ||that's free next patch||

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spoil that tho

junior cliff
shell basin
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Chenxue is an astral op, so no

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and vita / HLE are too new

urban lake
junior cliff
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Oh sorry sorry

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How do u put the spoiler thing when messaging??

shell basin
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|| on both sides

urban lake
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like this

junior cliff
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|| ok||

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Thank youy

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Guys i have miss espionage. is there any character who can synergize with her from here

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no

junior cliff
spring thicket
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Can u recommend a tewm for her

serene crystal
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ME, VBm, VBs for free options but who do you have?

serene crystal
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The link for astral ring teambuilding.

spring thicket
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if you open up the filters you can tell it to show you only astral ring valkyries, and then if you want to narrow it down more, tell it to only show you heavenly shift and harmonized shadow star

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but your account is new enough that just astral ring will narrow it down plenty

south iron
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Guys, how to do team building, I'm so confused bc it's kinda diff from genshin

serene crystal
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See the link I posted right before

hexed glacier
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What's to take from this box?

serene crystal
hexed glacier
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Oh oki

serene crystal
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Wafer Stabilizer is the most annoying mat to get but only really needed for affix which is very min-maxy.

runic kindle
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Hi, i returned 2 years later and among these valks which of them are still useful and worth further investment?

serene crystal
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VBm, DA:FL and if we stretching a bit VBs mainly to have a third astral ring valk.
HoHe, HoRB and HoFi really need their stellar key to be useable.
Nothing else sees use beyond Agony 2.

jade garnet
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The SP valks are good for SS MA if we cope enough

runic kindle
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i think my account is fine

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I clread elysian realm without struggling at all

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I just cannot say for abyss because i currently ranked sinful 1-2 lol

dry python
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# runic kindle Tbh yesterday i got very high score on MA

can i ask for more clarification on what you mean by "very high" in MA, and "cleared" for elysian realm?

What matters in MA is how you place against everyone else in the server. The maximal rewards are in the top 2%. However ranking higher only gives you more ancient willpower to buy more out of date valks in War Treasury shop, so ranking isn't truly important overall.

  • We mainly stress to just clear MA without worrying about rankings in order to get challenge rewards for crystals and source prisms.

What matters in Elysian Realm is to get weekly 500 crystals from deep sequence. The minimum difficulty to do this is "abstinence" or 2.25x. As Cay said, this isn't really considered for how good your account is because at worst even farmable A rank Coralie (which anyone can get) can clear that.

rotund roost
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Is the 3rd and 4th event doable in 1 day?

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3rd event is the latest story chapter. Yes.

4th event is daily gated. Needs around a week to finish.

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you get one journey a day until you reached the 7th one

runic kindle
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I see i ranked 20% in MA and i cleared finality difficulty

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yeah i'm not too concerned about those then. Abyss is really the main meta mode that is stressed since you need to actually build your account well to get the crystals from it, and the crystals you get from it are actually quite plentiful compared to other regular sources in the game.

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roughly in one week you can get 2k crystals from regular sources (not including events). Abyss at red lotus retain is half of that (500 per cycle, but 2 cycles happen each week)

runic kindle
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Back then i ranked red lotus more than a year but i am not thinking playing meta focused again because it is hell stresfull

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Agony 3 would be ok

shell basin
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Agony 3 is probably something you can achieve in a patch or two from where you are starting, luckily

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Since it looks like you’re EU

runic kindle
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that's fair. Meta doesn't have to be everything. Casually you don't need anything to appreciate story and events. It's fine to aim for an intermediate too

shell basin
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You mostly only have WS supports but ||next patch valk is WS|| which helps

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Since ||sena can go on her team and vice versa||

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Do you understand how the gacha has changed and how the new team building system works?

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WS is world star. It's a term referring to a new team style

shell basin
runic kindle
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Basically, modern teambuilding is about matching leader astral ring with support tags

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Every Valkyrie is a Dps and a supp but not every Valkyrie supports every other Valkyrie

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So someone like Sena is WS and wants domain resonance supports; she has domain resonance and harmonized shadow star so she can support WS and WoD

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But can’t do much for LoA or RoO or Grail

spring thicket
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(Wheel of Destiny for WoD, Law of Ascension for LoA, Rite of Oblivion for RoO, GoI is Grail of Infinitude)

shell basin
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This last patch Valkyrie was a grail, so Sena couldn’t do much for Mei, but ||Silverwing Dkey is WS|| so Sena is useful as a supp

runic kindle
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Okaay then after SW DLC I am thinking spending my crystals for 8.9 valk. Actually when we get spending events? I missed this patch

shell basin
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It’s gonna be a while, next one is on ani

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yeah so the main gacha changes are

  • equipment is not all gacha only now. Only the weapon is gacha only and takes 60 pulls at worst to get. If you don't get all the stigmatas in time, you can use the free stig selector box for the newest release each patch, or craft in foundry
  • we don't really alternate between patches of farmable valk and gacha only valk anymore. Most patches are now feature a new gacha only valk release. ||next patch is exceptional and we aren't getting a new gacha only valk there||
  • so overall cost for a particular character with her weapon is cheaper but the overall cost is more evened out across multiple patches compared to before
  • patches are also longer now so some may see that as there's more time to save
  • there's other changes but they are more minor
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!faq supply

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can read more details here

runic kindle
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others seem to have covered team building changes so I won't go into that but you can search !faq ring in the channel to find a more detailed guide.

shell basin
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There will be a mini spending most likely yeah but not a full spending

spring thicket
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normally you’d expect to get all your stigmata from pulling the weapon, the box and crafting are for if you’re phenomenally unlucky or phenomenally lucky (ie, somehow get no stigs, or get weapon in a 10 pull)

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yeah. You don't decide which pieces you get from the gacha since it's rng. So naturally selector box and crafting goes last since you can actually pick with those

runic kindle
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anyway the general ideas of getting full gear with a valk hasn't changed. If you want to build yourself back towards meta, focus more on saving up and only rolling for newest patch releases when you have enough to get valk + weapon. Again this doesn't have to be a full extent (edit:going after every new release). It's fine to aim for something more partial especially if you have only specific interests in the game currently.

shell basin
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You could consider Horb dkey rerun as probably least bad for your account but I would reccomend saving unless you have a lot of crystals spare when it runs

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As far as backpulls go it’s less bad because it’s cheap and a dkey but in general returnees tend to have limited funds

spring thicket
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on average, kinda plan on valk + weapon being about 150 pulls, and you get all the stigmata you need from that, plus some extras. you may get lucky and save a few pulls here and there. but don’t plan on lucky because that leads to sadness and panick farming

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adding to that, i would try to see if we can get foresight from cn server on what the future valk after that patch will be before deciding to sink your crystals for an inefficient rerun

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(anything non-officially known is not allowed in this official server)

runic kindle
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do you have any particular focus that may not be as meta btw? We can also adjust advice to focus more on that

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we default to meta advice in general since that's where the crystals are, but non meta help isn't off the table as long as you can make the goal clear to us and accept the trade offs of not being meta

runic kindle
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Currently i am okay with my part 1 teams

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yeah that's understandable. Alot has changed and the game being so old is very convoluted still

runic kindle
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Focused completing events then i will continue main story

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At the very least, now you're aware so feel free to ask down the line if anything comes up

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sounds good. Also note the pins here have plenty of general info as well

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!faq crystals

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maybe you'll be interested in browsing through this too. The second link cover the time limited missable crystals especially

runic kindle
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Thank all of you for the help! TeriCry

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which you may want to prioritize over main story (technically latest story addition is an event but most people would agree the limited crystals there aren't worth spoiling the story early on if that's what you care about)

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you may want to jump into early part 2 story just to pick up free farmable coralie card and her signature weapon though. There's minimal part 1 spoilers early on

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!faq cof

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How to find "Covenant of Finality"

Sorry for the confusion, Captain! AichanCry

Part 2 of the Main Story will unlock at level 30. Both "Covenant of Finality" and "Genealogical Seat" are part of this storyline.

Main Menu (Bridge) > Attack > Story > Extinguished Starlight and Rekindled Fire > Tides of Time gone by > Click the image to Play!

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ah ok then perfect lol

runic kindle
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I got when pt2 released

runic kindle
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oh ok so i guess you were here when they gave up VBm coralie's full gears for free

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yeah i see that now. Didn't check at the time. Sorry that's on me

runic kindle
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Then stopped playing

spring thicket
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sadness, if you’d been playing for the spending event you could’ve gotten her again

runic kindle
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generally a newly released valk does see a rerun shortly afterwards in future patches

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however meta wise for f2p/light spending and long term it's recommended to forget about reruns even at that point

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your crystals are too limited to pick up reruns without compromsing picking up new releases (you already can't afford them all reliably/safely) and the mileage you get is diminished

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but if you have any particular bias towards a particular rerun, we can work with it. Meta isn't everything and you can still appreciate a recent rerun a good amount.

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also on the note of gacha astral ops, they generally aren't recommended for earlier players. Their benefits can matter at the highest level for developed accounts but most players even at RL won't appreciate them enough to justify their costs

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!faq gacha op

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Should I Pull AstralOps?

NOO CAPTAIN! AichanAngery

If you are a f2p meta player, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).

Reasons:

  • Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
  • Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30kCrystal).
    • AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
  • The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.
kind cliff
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Are the other dkey valks still being used? Like are they still putting out bosses made for dkey valks

shell basin
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Ish? Luna and Horb are still getting a fair few but HoHE and Hofi are getting a bit rare

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Especially if you don’t count Rita weathers that trio can cope but isn’t bis

kind cliff
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Ogeh tysm

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Also another question

Promoting here wouldn't bring me any problems right? I looked at the schedule and my ||best bet for a fire boss is Lantern, also got no bio types. And bedt bet for the sd boss is HLE i think|| (should i spoiler dem)

Just worried I'll have a hard time trying to do anything if i promote to rl

shell basin
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And then boss after that is phys alien guard

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Better question is what SD and Phys valks do you have

shell basin
kind cliff
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Oh
Oh okay guess I'll try both sena/hle with vita lantern

My sd choice is just HLE, i have Dudu and Xentinel

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My JD doesn't have weap unfortunately

shell basin
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I mean ideally you want Mei HLE Badum but just HlE should be fine for RL

kind cliff
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I did Xentinel HLE Luna iirc against jizo

shell basin
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Sure that probably works here if you don’t have FdD or PS

kind cliff
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Okay, tysm! I came across a like
Site full of rots and stuff but it's in korean, I'm gonna check it out more later for rotations

junior cliff
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Do u guys think it is possible for me to get ME's weapon

shell basin
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in terms of repeatable sources you can get maybe 10-15 pulls before banner goes away

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so anything else towards pity will have to come from 1 time sources

junior cliff
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Tysm

eager creek
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what should i farm

spring thicket
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Today? Crystal toward next patch

eager creek
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im still kinda new want good characters and mats and stuff

eager creek
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i got FDD first try

crisp gale
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What do HoHo vacation tickets do? I have like 150 of them

languid beacon
raven bane
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you may use some of them if you feel lazy doing the other dailies. XD

crisp gale
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Oh
Thats cool

raven bane
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also some part of memorial arena too

crisp gale
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I got advertized ||divine keys|| since i hit lv50
But when i opened the menu, everything was locked
šŸ’”

wicked cargo
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So I finally got SSS VBM coralie, what else should I use my asterites on

raven bane
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you can claim one every week

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of course you have to finish realms of battle first

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rest of the dkeys are obtainable from gacha

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or reserve works

crisp gale
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I see

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Thank you

mortal plover
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So I only got 160 from the wishing event what should I buy from it?

low ridge
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What team should I use for abyss

serene crystal
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You can try either XDC or ME DPS, I would assume XDC is better here since she won't get hit by 50% damage loss from wrong damage type, but the fact that she can't properly engage with the mechanics hurts her a lot.

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folks where can i find the sheets for characters?

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i mean the docs

serene crystal
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What specifically are you looking for?

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What type of sheet/doc?

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@lament sparrow

lament sparrow
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like showing gacha or f2p options for certain character

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as a support, does EoP and DoG have big difference?

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i cant find out really so maybe there is a sheet that would summarise

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thats just one example ofc

serene crystal
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There are no meaningful f2p options for modern characters it is sig or die for abyss. Wyverein has some numbers on his youtube but rotations vary a lot depending on fight specific factors, so general numbers are all pretty questionable.
Given that GD and HoFi with DoG has no meta value beyond some SS MA strats, it doesn't matter that much beyond if it makes the strat possible.
For HoFi to work as support for a modern team she needs Waxing Moon.

lament sparrow
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my bad

serene crystal
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On support it is most likely fine but for dps you are losing at least 30% damage so you most likely can't compete.

shell basin
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Badum works with no wep and EoPri is better

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For dps DoG is better but still pretty bricked on most Badum abyss

soft dew
shell basin
# soft dew which

They’re all free but sugary starburst you might use to support ||silverwing|| so her

soft dew
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oh I thought I could only choose one

shell basin
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From this you can only choose 1

soft dew
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I see

shell basin
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But they’re in asterite shop

soft dew
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I started the game 30 minutes ago so I have no one :V

gleaming sandal
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No worry

soft dew
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Except the story freebies

shell basin
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Yeah no worries just wanted to let you know that

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Helping new players is the whole point of this channel

gleaming sandal
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Yep

soft dew
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Who is silver wing?

gleaming sandal
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Big bronya

shell basin
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A Bronya battlesuit in the war treasury

gleaming sandal
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You'll see when you reach the certain story point

soft dew
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Awesome :D

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I got starburest then

gleaming sandal
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Mhm

junior cliff
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Which one do i pick?

gleaming sandal
junior cliff
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Oh ok thanks

gleaming sandal
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Np

desert raptor
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if I buy this, do I also get the version with the glasses? or is it 2 different outfits?

oak estuary
desert raptor
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thank you both for your response ElysiaLuv

vernal ivy
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Can i get all of those rewards without spoiler since i havent finish part 1?

shell basin
acoustic ivy
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wasn't there an achievement when reaching nirvana?

lyric anvil
junior cliff
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guys what is the best way to get exp

quick birch
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Dailies and spend stamina with story etc

lyric anvil
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^

glass coral
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Is skipping dialogue finally optional or do you still have to go thru the whole 9 hours to be able to unlock and replay the cutscenes?

dry python
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Wdym "is skipping dialogue optional" you could always choose not to

fallen merlin
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folk 😭😭😭😭

junior cliff
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guys what do i d?

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ive restarted the stage multiple times. Nothing happen

serene crystal
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i wasnt able to get enough wishes, what do i get now?

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csn snyone help recommend me?

gleaming sandal
fluid grove
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hey guys question about the dkeys, i am missing some and i can buy them from reserve works. should i buy them? i have 28 balls and paid bp so i could get some stuff.

frozen crypt
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!faq balls

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Immutable Crystallums

Hey there, Captain! AichanBlink

Crystallums are a Battle Pass Currency that can be exchanged for Valkyries and Equipment in the Reserve Works. Captains who purchase Knight or Paladin BP can also access the BP Works of that patch for 3 versions.

There are 3 BP tiers offering different amounts of Crystallums as follows:
-# The totals below account for the 2 Crystallums in the Dorm Shop.

  • Vanguard (F2P) BP: 5 per patch
  • Knight BP: 18 per patch
  • Paladin BP: 24 per patch

It is recommended to spend your Crystallums on Divine Keys that you have yet to collect for permanent account-wide ATK bonuses. See the list [here](#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message).

fluid grove
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so its silver wing frag?

frozen crypt
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Do you have any progress on the next rank for kia elf

gleaming sandal
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Oh hey lyo lao

frozen crypt
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Hiiii

gleaming sandal
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which one is silver wing?

gleaming sandal
serene crystal
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oh ok hmm i have her i should get har ranks?

gleaming sandal
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I'd probably still get elf boxes esp since you won't be getting songque aop think sw ranks are always available, elf ranks are a lot harder and kia elf can be better than ds in quite a few cases whereas sw is just gonna be your sw team

gleaming sandal
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one more question should i level up dkeys before tuning them?

serene crystal
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thank youu

quick birch
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And elf boxes are a consistent part of spendings while we still don't know how they'll handle aops

gleaming sandal
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Is ME worth it?

abstract sequoia
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you will be behind on crystals for any future pulls otherwise

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i mean yes, ME has her use but so does every other new valkyrie release

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with the advantage of new releases usually having a longer lifespan

serene crystal
bright orchid
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Nothing

gleaming sandal
bright orchid
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No

gleaming sandal
bright orchid
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Im just asking

abstract sequoia
gleaming sandal
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ME is in my opinion just a check for imaginary bosses that aren't protected by lightning down weather and thats it

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she is completely replacable by the next IMG release

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for IMG core damage without destroying shells she isn't the best either, RS takes that cake

gleaming sandal
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not yet there is

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i'm just waiting for it to happen, for example i skipped RS

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yes i am screwed until then for any bosses where she's amazing at, but outside of these she isn't even good

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also fell flat as a support in any Abyss compared to most other options, just for MA she is alright

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thats a thing you need to consider when you're going for older valks, you're not only sacrificing crystals for the ups but also the downs you need to live with

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especially when those downs are eliminated by the next new valk

gleaming sandal
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So unless you whel like me, otherwise backpulling is genuinely bad thing to do

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And by whel, I mean whel whel, not just goldfishing

bright orchid
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Honestly isnt hle the same as RS
I lowkey feel like her dmg is errrr

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Even horb dmg is questionable sometimes

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Lowkey i feel like her domain resonance deal less dmg than sena

quick birch
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In general the game isn't black or white when it comes to how good a character is it's always situational and changes depending on your needs

bright orchid
quick birch
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Well for whom, not everyone can support everyone and supports change a lot depending on the boss

bright orchid
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btw is ||sw dk|| a decent loa support?

quick birch
quick birch
bright orchid
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Sooo waifu over meta?

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I mean if you say it like that then technically no one is worth it to pull cuz they eventually get replaced

quick birch
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Well everyone will eventually get replaced so you pull what has the best value aka the newest release

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Whether or not you wanna be a meta player or more on the casual side is totally up to you, if you wanna compete in the highest rank there won't really be a lot of space for personal driven decisions and if you're a f2p you'll probably end up as a RL/nirv bouncer. If your goal is just to retain RL and maybe bounce back to a3 for a while there is a lot more room for personal driven decisions, generally red lotus isn't really that hard to retain once you have decent coverage and even if you -100 on one or two bosses you will have other opportunities to make up for it

quick birch
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Their usage will just gradually decrease as they become older

hollow barn
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hey, can someone tell me what's in the current beginners supply and whether it's worth pulling?

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FWS and FDD and it isn't worth it like always.

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isn't FWS commonly used?

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and FDD also? 😮

serene crystal
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Yes, but not really worth backpulling at this point unless you are going to spend a lot.
You can't really afford more then one valk per patch without spending.

hollow barn
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that's true... but for beginners, i can't remember anymore, weren't there beginner-supply-specific cards and rewards for pulling in beginner supply or so?

serene crystal
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There is a requirement for a single pull and one reduced cost 10 pull. Generally not worth it for an older valk.

hollow barn
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mmhmmm okay understood

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so right now it's basically just... pull the meta

kind cliff
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Can i get this in time
Wait that says i need to buy bp

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If i buy bp now pretty sure it gives me 13 balls...

serene crystal
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More the meta pull is new valk every patch

hollow barn
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yeah ok thanks šŸ™‚

oak estuary
hybrid isle
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how do i do adventure tasks

ancient needle
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There'll be a "Tasks" tab at the bottom

hybrid isle
ancient needle
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Not 100% sure, but shouldn't be far

hybrid isle
thick bolt
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iirc apho 1 was story chap 1.3 requirement

reef perch
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is it worth it to buy rank up stamps for sw n-ex from the bp shop since i already have her? or should i save for a different unit

shadow gyro
serene crystal
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I would focus on getting the ranks from War treasury first before BP.

reef perch
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only keys i have are from the event

shadow gyro
reef perch
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gotcha. is there any unit i should get from WT besides her?

shadow gyro
reef perch
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got it, ty

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Kinda related to that, I'm running low on currency & I've been getting hohe + sw fragments every week. I think theyre both s2 right now. I assume sw is more worth investing into rn? *nvm hohe is s3, sw s2

ancient needle
frigid osprey
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Is ss hohe significant?

lyric anvil
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I believe her ranks are mostly DMG

ancient needle
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Same with SW, but SW will be fresh

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Which means a lot more shill

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If you can afford to grab SS without skipping SW frags, I'd do it

frigid osprey
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Okay thank youu

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||once i get sw divine key, since it unlocks her to play with domain resonances characters isnt senadina one?? since we're gettinng her for free|| can i use them tg or is that a COMPLETE bullshit team

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also can u genuinely get the valk bp f2p? feels impossible

outer spruce
hybrid isle
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||with the free events is there no way to get the characters weapon||?

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hybrid isle
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quick wing
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what affix on xdc?

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glass coral
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Are there a list of meta team comps?

shell basin
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Pretty much every p2 valk has their BiS cases and which you use on a specific boss depends on their gimmick and who you have

glass coral
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Usually only the DPS is non negotiable admittedly but which supports score best is also something that changes

glass coral
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ahh

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what units are priority to get?

shell basin
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Like take Miss Espionage. Usually she wants HLE Sena. But in bull, she wants Thelema for evasion malding, and on RGBenares she wants Lantern and Thelema for the symphony bonus

outer spruce
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even if a character has a bis team, you often have to change the team to accommodate the boss

shell basin
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Typically we reccomend only picking up new releases if you’re F2P

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You’ll catch up in time and it’s more crystal efficient

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But right now is a strange time

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So as a beginner there’s a strong argument to grab either Badum or FDD from beginner banner

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Both are pretty similarly good

glass coral
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thanks man

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Imma grab kiana from beginner banner lowk

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for the lols (and 🧱 )

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You can then try and pick up silverwing from the war treasury; ||she’s getting a new wep next patch that lets her support Badum and vice versa||

gleaming sandal
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🐳

wicked cargo
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šŸ¤”

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Attack is a little better than crit damage

wicked cargo
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Wait I guess its 2 per stigmata. Uhh 4 atk 2 crit dmg

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Or 5 atk 1 crit dmg

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5 and 1 should be better than 4 and 2 unless you’re trading a good crit damage line for a bad attack line

wicked cargo
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Whats considered good atk? I got a stig with 11 atk 17 atk

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20+ is usually considered good. 17 is okay if you’re low on NCCs. 11 is a bad line

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I really do not recommend gunning for good affixes if you're still early in development and haven't reached the higher tiers of the game or have a specific scenario to really appreciate that difference yet.

gleaming sandal
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affixes being rng means they can be very costly to invest in, and even at max their benefits are still smaller compared to missing gears, valks, playing well

gleaming sandal
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What tier RL

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You can hit RL at level 40 pot

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Remember

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yes i can consider it that way if you're only bouncing into it or aren't ranking 1-3 in it

gleaming sandal
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They’re all abyss

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and ofc i'm talking exalted (captain lv 81+) but i suppose that isn't immediately obvious to unfamiliar people (i think everyone here would be though)

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anyway i only intend for this to be a quick warning. I don't want to stretch this out more than needed

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Some beginners can show their double 20 line XDC meis when they don't even have symbiosis supports yet

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tbh 20 is arbitrary

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the maximum is 23 per line

gleaming sandal
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ideally you get as close to it as possible to have as much atk as possible but i mean

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what really matters is how many hits it takes to finish off the boss or how fast you clear it

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sometimes these affixes can save you one more hit and save slight time that way

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but if going from 21->23 still makes you clear in the same amount of hits, then it's not doing anything is it?

wicked cargo
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so that's why i said one of the cases is if you have a specific scenario in mind

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also

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there can be rare times where you may want to change your affixes because you need something else

wicked cargo
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maybe a different kind of damage multiplier to suit a particular part of a character's kit, or maybe you suddenly need to deal elemental hits, or maybe you need sp

again very rare. In most cases just go atk nowadays

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if you don't have an immediate need for prisms then yes this is one of the reasons why i tell people to keep dupes just in case

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but if you need the prism then it's really prob not going to be a concern

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I definitely need the prisms

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yeah don't worry about it too much then

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but also don't worry about affixes too much for now if you're missing stig levels. 46 stated affixes aren't going to compensate for that probably unless you have a specific scenario in mind

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there can be an argument of spending a little bit to get one decent line (15 or so) per stig but it's rng

wicked cargo
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I only have a few with 21. But only 1 affix not double

gleaming sandal
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the idea is if you're lacking so much, affixes are a bigger portion of the current pie of your damage so to speak, but i personally do not endorse that argument

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i mainly go by actual scenarios but the game is too dynamic (there's too many factors) for me to give general rules there

gleaming sandal
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so just monkey it out and get the affixes when you feel you could need them

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so pot are you in RL retain or are you trying for t3 RL where nirvana dropouts are?

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exalted ofc

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but tbh even if i ask you this, my answer isn't really going to change

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i will still tell you to only affix if you find a specific case where you're slightly off from getting a needed improvement to your score to change your rankings to reach that t3 or save yourself from demote or something

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the only exception is if your account is so well off you're overflowing in resources, in which case it's more fine to do it preemptively. But i mean, I've dumped 1 mill asterite for nothing to show for it before.

gleaming sandal
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I can RL retain with no problems

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hm then yeah you can consider it more but if you're low on resources i will still consider it only on a case by case basis

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# wicked cargo I only have a few with 21. But only 1 affix not double
Everything you need to know about Affixes

Hello, Captain! AichanWave

[Click here](#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message) for the in-depth Affixing guide!

Overall, you should only affix Best-in-Slot Stigmata and generally aim to get as much Atk as possible on your DPS Valkyries first. Ensure that the Battlesuit/Weapon Type matches what the Affix line demands otherwise the Atk will not apply.

Remember only Physical Damage can crit, and "crit ratios" do not apply to Honkai Impact 3rd.

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anyway you can check this out if you haven't yet

gleaming sandal
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# hybrid isle ohhhh okay thxx

Sorry for the late bump in topic but I just want to add more information to what Jahjab already have said for your consideration.

Keep in mind the main priority with bp orbs is for divine keys you're still lacking that are in reserve work shop (except judah and pledge of sakura which you can get elsewhere). Each gives you +10 atk to all your valks (abyss flower and fenghuang down needs a few more steps+costs though) which isn't much on its own, but does add up meaningfully. If you're not concerned with high tiers of abyss, then you can disregard this more though.

But on the other hand as mentioned before, Sena as a support doesn't benefit too much from the weapon such that the 10 orb cost might be too much. https://i.imgur.com/YXYI3QG.png

  • Her main notable support use are for Wheel of Destiny teams where she can stay entirely/mostly off field so you can focus more on using your main dps.
  • If you are quite new and are lacking better supports for World Star teams but you picked up Songque astral op from spending event, you may consider using sena to get a bunch of initial ARI to get to your Stellar Outburst sooner in battle. This isn't always going to be beneficial but it's a consideration.

Aside from support, I want to ask do you have other character's maxed out gacha drive cores to use on Senadina? I presume not if you're considering her as support to ||SW|| but just in case, Vita's weapon can be a cope budget option (still too much of a loss for high RL/nirvana). https://i.imgur.com/aSZpVw7.png Overall we don't really expect too much primary use cases for Sena dps at this point but if your roster is lacking, maybe you can still appreciate her as a dps.

Source video for the images: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dkbHmfqvGA

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Or weapon sync could work too

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# hybrid isle ohhhh okay thxx
Immutable Crystallums

Hey there, Captain! AichanBlink

Crystallums are a Battle Pass Currency that can be exchanged for Valkyries and Equipment in the Reserve Works. Captains who purchase Knight or Paladin BP can also access the BP Works of that patch for 3 versions.

There are 3 BP tiers offering different amounts of Crystallums as follows:
-# The totals below account for the 2 Crystallums in the Dorm Shop.

  • Vanguard (F2P) BP: 5 per patch
  • Knight BP: 18 per patch
  • Paladin BP: 24 per patch

It is recommended to spend your Crystallums on Divine Keys that you have yet to collect for permanent account-wide ATK bonuses. See the list [here](#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message).

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VBm syncs can be ok. I think of each sync as 1% team overall dmg loosely speaking which might make a difference similar to affix especially when scores are being so close high in the game.

VBs syncs are not worth it even if you actually have her weapon.

gleaming sandal
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Can just pull LanternHeavyThoughts

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the only way i'll recommend that is with non pull methods like the previous mini spending where everyone gunned for fdd +2

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LanternLollipop rip lantern costume

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if you must pull a weapon dupe, the objective answer is prob going to be for a stellar key for +5 atk

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wow did they happen in the same 10 roll or did you went out of your way for them?

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at any rate i lost bearing on how this relates to affixes and its resources then

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but it also seems like you know what you need to know for now unless you have any other questions before i go lol

gleaming sandal
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So my stigma affix is all shit atm HimekoLMAO

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oh so how they compare. Ok i see

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it's all atk at that point so it's easier to see there once you're aware lol

gleaming sandal
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Thanks btw

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but yeah it's a funny thought when a +2 or +3 is just fixing two of your 20 lines to a 23 or something lol
(edit: ofc the actual value is having both but this is whale at that point)

lone crater
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how to 23, LanternHeavyThoughts

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atp dkey syns exist to save my mediocre affixes

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inner bronze
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any video guides for this abyss?

shell basin
inner bronze
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ok ty

shell basin
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To pull or for this abyss?

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For this abyss it’s phys up lightning down. So Rita is a good supp for dudu or Sus

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But her dps is pretty bricked

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To pull she’s not reccomended unless you love her or are whaling

inner bronze
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for this abyss

shell basin
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Yeah look at weather

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Doesn’t favor her

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So she’s bis supp but can’t rlly dps

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If you don’t have mini Dudu you can use Mei or sushang

inner bronze
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i do have dudu,im using the recommended team rn

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but im struggling with the rot it seems

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ok agony 3 here i come šŸ’€

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# inner bronze but im struggling with the rot it seems

Aight Abyss time! Kevin Mk3

Though difficulty suddenly increased, still manage to do 900's w/ ME on the team. For other supports though, can't end it with just 1 or 2 CA on RS anymore, much more difficulty on 2nd phase, still easy with Teriri cause of that 2x QTE but for DS it's getting tougher ngl.

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If you got mini Dudu can copy one of these

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So many supp options there’s probably an exact match for whatever Hs you got

inner bronze
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ok thx, ill try later

slim blaze
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No ME, do i give up on 900+ RL?

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No PS no Teriop no hanabi

gleaming sandal
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Noice

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An excuse to slacc

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This is an absolute win

lyric anvil
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Idk what I can score with XDC FWS HLE veli_ded

gleaming sandal
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Also hey ridley

lyric anvil
quick birch
slim blaze
quick birch
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Can also try RS/fdd/FWS ig

junior cliff
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Guys why cant i redeem invitation codes?

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junior cliff
steep drift
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I'm missing 7 gems from the lobby event. Could that be from the lucky draw or something else?

shell basin
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it's from the table and you missed a day

steep drift
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ty

shell basin
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np

hexed glacier
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How do errands refresh work? Is the rank stay every refresh or it goes random? Like if i refresh B rank errand it can became A or S?

dry python
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No

abstract sequoia
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current best in EU Nirvana with SS CX scored 678

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RL score will be above that but idt it will be comparable to RS with her 900+ scores

lyric anvil
junior cliff
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Guys if i make accounts can i redeem the invitation code of my main account?

lyric anvil
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Probably will take awhile though

slim blaze
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Cuz iirc u need 14k bp points

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Lvl 50 can be done in like a day

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Or two just speedrun story

lyric anvil
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Was it 50 or was it 40?

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I don't remember KianaRip_nopies

slim blaze
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Its one of the two

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Probably 40 for new accounts and 50 for returnees

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Cause i remember making 5 salts in a day just for that

lyric anvil
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I tried it once and didn't want to put that time onto myself KianaRip_nopies