#š¶beginner-help
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how long does it take to finalize abyss and receive rewards?
huh where do i ask for a sensei in NA server=
Is that new helia still good. I got her a long time ago
Team for new Mei? I only have Hi-Love Elf as my other part 2 Valks.
Mei HLE Valkyrie Blastmetal should be fine
Youāll be stuck with fast SOs but thatās not the end of the world, it means you can do 2 SO runs more easily
What's SO?
Sheās still got some dps shill and is a decent enough symbiosis support
Stellar outburst
Stellar outburst, the super mode you hit by pressing the blue button when itās full
hello, who's the best valk to get in the asterite shop?
Valkyrie Blast Metal
After that, probably Terminal Aide for newbies as the best third for Mei
But that depends on account details
Also I'm a returning player, I don't have a lot of new valkyries but I wanna pull for the new mei, is it still worth it, if I don't have her team
Depends on your crystal count and what other releases you have but paws is a Mei support
So is Badum or Peregrine sword or reign Solaris or HoHE dkey
If you have them
are there any way to convert 280 xtal into ticket or vice versa? since i have 5 ticket that cant be used in multi roll i have to wait tilli get another 5 to use for multi roll, i dont really like rolling solo yolo
Well whenever thereās a new release thereās a āhalf off 10 pullā and you can spend 5 tickets in that
Or you can wait until you have more cards
Or just save them for when youāre close to pity
But no easy way to convert
damn, i wish they just add auto use the ticket if available in multi then use xtal for the remaining balance
technically cn can let you change xtals to cards which helps
but yeah we don't have that here
besides getting some free pulls, are there any character we can get from story or some kinda grind? eventho my acc old asf, my lvl n roster is still low, mostly A n B ranks
War treasury has a bunch of old valks but none of them really have meta relevance (besides HoHE if you get her dkey)
Asterite shop has blastmetal and she still sees use in RoO
And then thereās Sonque from spending but sheās not really reccomended
Thereās also reserve works which is only mostly dead? Probably Sena will be showing up there in a few patches and sheās still got niche
idk any of the terms but I'll check em out inna bit thx. I just know valks = characters(?) and HoHE is herscher of ...
Is there a reason why CN voices dont play in cutscenes?
I have them on during normal dialouge but for any cutscene it switched to JP
I believe that is a global server thing
I don't think there's a way to change it, I'd recommend asking #štechnical-help maybe there is a way to replace it manually I'm not sure 
Oh I didnt see that server ty
It should be pinned there.
oh shit abyss
Uh did I missed something? Why do I keep losing here?
You arent supposed to let the bars get to full
That means HoV awakens
You have to take pauses to make sure the bar doesnt cap
S-rank Battlesuit Option 2026
What is available?
- S-rank Valkyries: from 1.0 - 6.3
- HoTr, JK, HoH, Vill-V, Aponia, SPA, PE, SW, Mobius, MPE, HoFS, Nyx, HoS, DA, FR, HoT, HoR, AE, BKE, SN, MC, AKA, VKE, HoV, 6S, PX, SK, CH, BN, VE, Meme, BR, KMB, LE, DB.
-# All of these Valkyries are in War Treasury except HoTr. Please keep reading, this does not mean you should pick her.
- HoTr, JK, HoH, Vill-V, Aponia, SPA, PE, SW, Mobius, MPE, HoFS, Nyx, HoS, DA, FR, HoT, HoR, AE, BKE, SN, MC, AKA, VKE, HoV, 6S, PX, SK, CH, BN, VE, Meme, BR, KMB, LE, DB.
- 23X2 ATK Affix Reroll Devices:
- BIO
, PSY
, MECH
, QUA
, IMG
, SD
.
-# These are typically only recommended to players who are aiming for Myriad T100 in Abyss and you should at least be Nirvana before considering redeeming them.
- BIO
- 200 Ancient Legacy

-# No. Really bad value.
What should I do with the box?
ā ļø The following section contains spoilers for Version 8.8 Content! ā ļø
||The next version (8.8) has revealed that for the first time in a very long time there will be no new Battlesuit. They have revealed a new AstralOp and a new Divine Key for SilverWing. This is very unusual since SW is such an old Valkyrie who has been obtainable/farmable for a long time - as a result, many people have her SS or above by now (though beginners shouldn't worry about this too much). Keep onto the box, it is most likely that new players who pick up SW's Divine Key will use it to unlock her since WT farming is not fast enough.||
||With such an old Valkyrie getting a Divine Key, it is becoming increasingly impossible to guess Divine Key candidates in the future...||
KEEP THE BOX! 
There is no rush to use this box in the current version, none of the Valkyries in there will be significantly useful in competitive content (Abyss/Memorial Arena) - especially for new players. It is very important that you keep the box going into next patch. If you don't want to spoil yourself now, you will understand why when the patch releases.
If you think you have an exceptional case, please ask us for advice tailored to you and give us context about your account and goals in the game.
-# The box is available starting March 16th alongside some other rewards!
-# .
do you have a question?
this is a help channel, not a general chat
I do
go ahead
Hm im not sure if i should get that senti gauntlet
Or the brick if it ever got a rerun?
Idk
what for?
Im building senti
I'm assuming you're a casual player that just likes her?
Yea
unless you have herrscher of rebirth and her (old) gear the brick is not going to perform very well
it really depends if you care about competitive performance at all, bearing in mind it directly impacts your crystal income
either way it's going to be difficult to get any of this stuff
Lyo could I have AR FAQ

!faq ring
Allow me to explain, Captain! 
Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!
Characters under the Astral Ring System will have one ring type (Specialization), and one or multiple tags (Attributes) that will determine how they can form teams. This system is only activated if a Character with Astral Ring is set as the leader. When activated:
- the leader's ring type will decide the team's playstyle.
- the team will benefit from effects (e.g., Stigmata buffs) that require Astral Ring.
- the team will gain access to Stellar Outburst, a high damage output state you can enter after charging enough energy (Astral Ring Intensity).
For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:
- World Star - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
- Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
- Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
- Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
- Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!
Thank you 
Is it possible to get her gauntlet
With the weapon shards
Like does it have a chance of appearing in the shop, or should i risk it and buy it with the pink things
I don't know what you mean by weapon shards but Keys of Oblivion is in the reserve works in battle pass shop and also exchange shop
so is the SSwords stigmata set
The exchange shop?
you can use her as a dps using her support gear, it was great back in the day but don't expect it to perform well against more recent comps
yeah look
Well then i will save on the reserve works
you can farm these by farming 4 bounty weapons and converting them to weapon resonance
Im aware ive got 9000
It should get me a weapon or 2
so why use bp shop instead?
But im not going to buy them randomly as a collector
Well as much as id like to do so i feel like my chances of getting a decent one for a p1 character wouldnt be half bad
if you want to also use brick one day you'd want to save up your crystallums for when brick and pericles set eventually comes to reserve works
How does one actually play LoA? Do you just use regular character rotations once u cast special QTEs?
LoA basically boils down to rapid switching of characters because it has a lot of cd reset/force qte built into it even outside of the 'special' qte with the purple aura around it
Alrightyy ty
Oo the astralop one
I had to watch a tutorial
Idk
For the last event
OH IT WAS astral ring set
I'm assuming you mean that you can do the special qte (heavenly shift) after entering stellar outburst which the astralop appears in, threw me off because astralops are not in any way shape or form related to Senti lol
I have swiched topics long ago
Although I apreciate ur help
One more thing lyo
I feel like the hardest part for me about Part2 is actually trying to find out how you are supposed to play and maximize rotations and outputs of valks when they are supports. Finding the matching ring features is one thing, actually making use of them is another
I have read the description to the new astral op that have appeared in the supply
oh yeah 100%, that's just something you have to learn with time. LoA I'd say is the hardest one actually
Is it worth buying literally any of these lol
So she's a fire/oblivion support
!faq tshop
I'm here to help, Captain! 
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) to view the Training Shop Purchase recommendation!
Please be aware that Jade Knight's Character Card costs only 1 ticket, the requirement to purchase is cumulative for every ticket you earn regardless of if you spent them already.
you shouldn't be pulling her just ignore it
no that's wrong, please don't give advice when you're not qualified to do so
Ok I guess I just gotta take things slow
I more or less understood WS WoD and GoI at the most rudimentary levels but LoA is really throwing me off
Ye true fair
How so? Im using the basic one
I skipped on the theresa one
Som1 told me she wasnt worth it
the basic one is good enough until Nirvana
and I highly doubt you are a Nirvana player
!faq pullop
NOO CAPTAIN! 
If you are a f2p meta player, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).
Reasons:
- Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
- Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30k
).
- AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
- The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.
True im close to red lotus
Than anything
Do APHO missions give level exp? I want to be level 50 for the crystals so I can get Mei's weapon.
Part 2?
I'm actually not sure,
most exp comes from daily duties and spending stamina
I have completed both
This
Apho
I wouldn't worry about rushing levels anyway, you wil absolutely be able to get mei's weapon before the banner ends
APHO is fun to come back to to chill once in a while
Oh part 1
Well just play the story
And like defeat the bosses, and find the secret chests
I liked playing infinite slash Mei in APHO2
@crystal sluice
I've never really used mei
I think my pity is high? Idk
But ur right
I spam bronias beam
I found Mei to be stupid fun, but it's all down to personal preference at the end of the day
you have plenty of time don't worry
I mean I only used her to stun void archives during the last couple levels
Yeah I was gonna do it for the training guide
But after you are done with part1 just move on to part 2, because the ruins cycle doesnt give any crystals
In p1
Since that is your goal
But you did mention weapons
P1 apho does give equipment supply cards
I mean the ruins exchange
Ohhh
But its a total of 7 cards
Well the current daily login event does give 10 equipment supply cards
Its kinda weird playing as a man in this game ngl.
Ok Im using this team to bruteforce Pistachio, I am really lost on how LoA exactly works or can be optimized, so how do I play this team?
Is it?
is it?
Tailors version 
Will this reset tmrw?
Yes
is it posible to get to level 38 in 1 day?
Are you starting from level 1?
yeah. new account
Yeah, story, training guide, growth regimen, and bp
Spamming story probably works too but it might take longer
Should I do this? Its level 2 but im 20 levels behind lol
The training guide says I need to do level 3
Just try
Universal mirage is extremely powercrept content at this point lvl 1 XDC should clear
Oh it was very easy
mirage is designed to be really easy
as long as you have a logical team + gear that meets the element requirement (or phys) and rotate properly you shouldn't struggle to go all the way up to F7
Is stamina a rare reasource late game?
stamina income doesn't really change late game
it doesn't gain any significant uses late in the game either. Refer to pins for how to spend your stamina efficiently.
the primary activities of the game that actually stresses your account development do not consume any stamina
late game it just becomes that thing you spend on automatic clearing stuff every day lol
so don't be afraid to churn through stamina items early on if you need them, you won't be needing them later
@stable vigil hello sorry to get back to you again so late. There isn't anything too deep to coin uses. Edit: ok i guess i overdid it on the elaboration below but don't be intimidated lol. It's mostly unimportant.
They are used as part of developing various primary aspects such as valks and equipment, as well as divine keys and astral ops/ELFs. If you anticipate getting anything, try to hoard some extra coins to buffer and not bottle neck on these developments. https://i.imgur.com/3vDwajz.png
I do think 169m is excessive and you can look to spend more freely if you wish. (i kinda try to softly keep 60-70m handy)
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(Late-game meta uses) Gene Limit refreshes https://i.imgur.com/uZkh91Y.png
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Logistic Terminal Shop (Daily) https://i.imgur.com/yJyabT7.png
- B rank starter frags (always costs 28888)
- discounted Advanced Skill Materials
- I don't remember if Ether Fuel costs coins here but you may consider those too
- Be careful clicking around in this shop since other things can cost crystals
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Coin Shop https://i.imgur.com/ThSVPCX.png
- Whatever you urgently may need (i've ran out of twin soul crystals for equipment exp before long ago. Valk exp prob not so much though as long as you slow down on any extreneous side projects.)
- Normal Crystal Cores > Affixes (endless sink i mentioned before)
- Honkai Pieces > Possible Armada Comissions. Otherwise these are used to craft specific cheap basic stigs in foundry > Salvage into further NCCs if you want to bypass the daily cap. Not really common practice nowadays.
- Honkai blocks if you really want to rush dorm development but long term efficient answer is to just farm them slightly every day (very cumbersome process.
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I think some time capsule purchases can be coins in cost too. Might as well get them for collection at worst if you're ahead on coins.
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Armada Warehouse Request for whatever it allows that you need (slight coin fee) https://i.imgur.com/Yg7wlKF.png
Maybe I missed something.
!faq lego
dw about big texts since i do read them (atypical of gacha players ik)
but i don't see the normal crystal cores in the coin shop?
wait, those? i thought that was the affixes part
yeah it is
"normal cores before buying affixes"
uh no that's not what that means
normal crystal cores are the resource you consume to reroll your affixes
so the arrow was more indicating their final purpose
oh, i thought u meant in a priority as every other guide uses > for that lol š¤¦āāļø
tbh affixes aren't something to worry about early on (your equipment/team/execution matters much more and affixes may not fix those)
"early on" being what parameter?
but i only told you about them as the final black hole so to speak if you really need to more empty (not completely) your coins
i wouldn't worry about affixes until
- high RL/nirv retain
- or if you encounter a specific situation where you know you're slightly off and affixes can help
if you're well off on resources and want a slight boost you can spend a few for something decent but i rather you act conservatively in light of how endless affixes can be
before i quit i was in RL retain so i think i should worry about them?
climbing up rn is taking some time but idk if i'll be able to rl retain
RL retain can still be quite slack in the grand scheme of things
ultimately the idea is affixes are slight damage gain (mostly via relevant atk stats)
if that damage makes a difference for your ranking then get them if you can afford them
otherwise stay away
i don't see much reason to nirvana retain tho? 5% more xtals per week from abyss doesnt seem like much at all
i don't care if your valkyrie raises her attack by 3 points if you're still doing the same amount of hits to clear a fight
i also don't care if you're clearing the fight significantly if you're not making a difference in your trophies in your abyss rankings. Maybe you're only rising from 7th to 4th, or maybe you're already in first and are overkilling
(Edit: going from (for RL) 3rd to 1st, or 10th to 5th, etc is still valid for being safe/buffering from people overtaking you last minute)
ohh, i c
Any advice on how to get weapons?
nirvana isn't really a standard goal we encourage for players. It's something you can decide for yourself how able and willing you want to focus on it later
main goal we stress is RL retain
but like, since i have that much gold anyways
shouldnt i try and go for affixes? it may or may not save me in a run but might aswell have it ready incase it does yk?
generally the only meta relevant weapons to focus upon nowadays are signature gacha weapons for the specific valk. So advice is just saving crystals like you would for the valk.
(i have 41k of the thing anyways since i never got deep into affixes)
41k isn't alot to me. I can chug 200k and wind up with nothing
i want that too
it's ultimately rng
jesus, thats insane
well tbf that specific example involves rolling for high double lines without any locks but ultimately it's a possibility
it's rng after all
and that high double line may not even matter for your purpose
but so then, what are the goals for valks? i remember it was atk for dps and sp regen for supports, but how much should u aim for (without costing insane amounts ig)?
it's really just case by case. Nothing really exists in a vacuum in this game. What matters ultimately is your timed score but also how that score matches against other people
nowadays keep in mind any valk can be used as a dps or as a support depending on how they slot in the team
so everybody just goes for atk (or crit dmg too if non-bleed phys)
so ask here depending on the valk i assume?
not to say sp considerations are non-existent now. There can be very niche scenarios
sure but also it's really just relative to the situation
if you're below RL, but have proper and fitting teams to the cycle, and are playing properly, affixes shouldn't be the reason why you fail to gain trophies (at least normally. Maybe you coincidentally wind up in a bracket with a bunch of other returnees that are tryharding back up)
overall whether you should affix or not should be more ideally responsive to a given specific scenario you're dealing with atm
but later on when you have excess resources and your competition is heavy, it becomes a standard (everyone around you is also doing it) to have high affixes so you can do it preemptively then
for new/developing players i don't recommend it because it's possible the valks you affixed heavily early on drops drastically in use by the time you reach a meta point where it's relevant
tldr and overly simplified make sure what resources you're spending actually are achieving actual changes in outcome and rewards
alr, thanks! thats all
thanks for taking the time to write huge texts just to answer me too (i prefer those over small ones)
yeah no problem. I'm known for it so feel free to ask me specifically then lol
bet, thanks!
you can also ask of other regulars to elaborate more too
and it can be good to get alternative perspectives
hi3 is a dynamic game where all sorts of factors big or small can matter so it can have alot of different opinions and outlooks
is there anything more you want me to elaborate about this question btw?
Keep in mind eventually HI3 becomes a game where you compete against other players in abyss. It's a meta standard for people to generally have the signature weapon.
Without that signature weapon any valkyrie may lose
- significant personal damage (usually 30-40% compared to some next best alternative) which is too much. In many cases you wouldn't consider dps'ing with that valk very well at that point. At that point using a second best weapon that is very expensive isn't that different from using the worst weapon that's very cheap.
- in certain cases but not all, that valk may gain specific important utility from that weapon (e.g. sparkle can collapse qua enemies a second time. By contrast, FWS kiana doesn't gain anything too important for support. Just some passive team buffs)
there can be exceptions if you really know what you're doing (people have retained red lotus without signature weapons before. some luck may be involved with grouping with people who don't score well)
i c i c, its honestly just overwhelming for a new player however lol, was seeing a new guy playing it and he was really confused
and even tho i had played the game before for like 2y im finding out that there were so many more things than i had grasped
yeah it's an old game with a major change relatively recently (p2/astral ring) so we understand how difficult it is
the major problem people see is the sheer amount of currencies the game has
yeah that's a common one
also the non obvious team building, the lack of tier lists that newcomers like to depend on, the acronyms when interacting with the community
theres just so much stuff for a new player to learn that its insane lol
anyways, i gotta go now, sorry thanks for everything!
||do we know what the new astral op does yet or if shes worth?||
no. Keep an eye on #š®cn-gameplay-discussion pins for updates
whatever that's there is about the extent we are considered to officially know and can comment on
Which one of these are the best if u want to use them solo
out of the 5 characters i currently have available which should i use for my Rita team for the last boss of the Q-Manifold?
Solo doesn't really work in this game. The buffs/debuffs you gain from supporting teammates are literal multipliers that drastically amplify your damage.
Or maybe you meant using them in Elysian Realm which does have adjustments and scalings for solo uses?
Both of these valks are dps in different ways and not really comparable. Aponia is a lightning dps while Sirin is an ignite/fire dps. Metawise they're both out of date and not recommended to invest heavily on.
Perhaps there's some absolute answer in a neutral scenario but HI3 is full of nuanced scenarios.
Yea sorry I meant in Elysian Realm š Sadly I have no luck in getting the newer valks so to get anywhere in the game I buy the old ones, even tho thatās not really recommended
i don't know what is the stage effect (weather?) and boss in q mani currently. Can you show me?
Do all valks here have their signature weapons?
If you want advice on building towards meta, we can help with that. Normally considered because that's how you get more crystals from abyss but by no means an absolute requirement.
For elysian realm i'm not quite sure tbh. Both can prob clear if well invested enough but i doubt that's the case for you. Otherwise you can try looking through the stage effects and load buffs and see what's more relevant to one or the other. Note stage effects will probably change tomorrow to favor the new Mei who is physical.
Also be sure to check out the ER guide in the pins for what signets to pick for each
that's usually the main reason people here struggle in ER
Alright, thank you so much!! š
Perhaps you can try something like JDS leader (physical dps with wheel of destiny ring type) and supports like Rita, Sena, or HLE Elysia (all of these have harmonized shadow star tag). I don't expect the fight to go on too long so maybe drop rita from this.
hm 15% bonus physical damage isn't much actually. Maybe i should think about type counter instead (~30%)
sena isnt build unfortunately
no stigs?
stig 3pc is usually very important
ok drop sena then
anyway the boss (DXY) starts with psychic typing but upon being shield broken by physical attacks becomes bio typing. If you're using an elemental dps, then maybe we can disregard the latter and focus on some bio elemental damage dealer. But you don't seem to have that either.
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well other things i would consider trying are HLE dps with Badum Kiana and VBm supports (VBm doesn't match well here but it's the best to consider of what you have)
or if you want to continue considering Rita dps, try her with JDS (not normally a notable WoD support nowadays but fast to buff with QTE, can maybe deal some notable physical damage in the process) and HLE supports. Maybe thelema support too if you need something just fast rather than higher damage.
btw have the team infrastructures i've been saying been making sense to you? It's not very intuitive so if not i would like to cover that
!faq ring
Allow me to explain, Captain! 
Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!
Characters under the Astral Ring System will have one ring type (Specialization), and one or multiple tags (Attributes) that will determine how they can form teams. This system is only activated if a Character with Astral Ring is set as the leader. When activated:
- the leader's ring type will decide the team's playstyle.
- the team will benefit from effects (e.g., Stigmata buffs) that require Astral Ring.
- the team will gain access to Stellar Outburst, a high damage output state you can enter after charging enough energy (Astral Ring Intensity).
For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:
- World Star - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
- Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
- Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
- Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
- Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!
what's important for q-mani is to clear well enough. You don't really need to get a maximal/competitive score afaik
and if any acronyms are lost on you, refer to glossary (normally in the pins)
!faq glossary
There are so many abbreviations, Captain! What do they mean? 
Use CTRL + F or 'Find in Page' to quick search abbreviations in the Glossary of Terms: e.g., ' RC ' (the spaces help!)
Still not sure? [Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for the Visual Guide for using the Glossary (applies to both PC and Mobile).
if anything i said so far is too much, let me know and we can revisit and break it down slowly
i already tried with a rotation im pretty sure you gave me, unfortunately i wasnt capable of getting to half it hp before, i did went a little bit farther with Rita, HLE and VBm, but idk what to do ; ;
vbm wouldn't be a good support for rita
so if rita is leader, we mainly look at her ring type
which is wheel of destiny. Don't worry about the meaning of these words. It's just a name.
this ring type's playstyle involves using phantoms to deal damage/gain effects
every ring type in the game has a tag it matches with
and these tags are what you want on your supports (edit: the non-leaders)
the tag that matches with wheel of destiny is called "harmonized shadow star"
so HLE has that. VBm does not
generally a matching tag provides better buffs but also core mechanics for that ring type's gimmicks
in the case of whele of destiny in its outburst state, a phantom called from a shadow star support will give you a longer uptime of enhanced effects
also i didn't give you any rotation yet. I only listed teams
a rotation refers to the order you cycle team members. Mainly to maximize the dps' damage. You only control one valk at a time usually so it makes the most sense to have two supports that set up effects, then swap to the dps last to capitalize before the support effects are done
we can go through an example of a specific team for what to do if you want
i mean before, maybe a month ago you or someone else helped me with a HLE rotation heh ^^" but if you could help me with one for rita I'd be so great for
ok so let's talk about your supports first since that's what you need to set up in the first place
do you know where to look to find their main team boosting effects?
in most (not all) cases it's going to be at the beginning of the 3pc effect https://i.imgur.com/Gi58mZC.png
so this is for HLE
you can see after triggering some kind of condition (there's multiple) you get some effect called heart's splendor. This is basically her main team boosting effect and you can see that name plastered everywhere throughout her other stigmata descriptions. Every valk has a similar but different fancy name.
You want to trigger this effect before dealing real damage.
What do you mean by compete against other players?
Like you dont get rewards unless youre on the leaderboard?
So you can see the ways to trigger it are:
- Hitting with her Weapon Skill
- Hitting with her QTE
- Enter Stellar Outburst
- Entering battle as leader
- Entering Stellar Surplus
and it only lasts for 25 seconds
You don't have to trigger all of these. Just any one of them will do.
Post breakthrough abyss changes to a format where you are put into a bracket with 20 other players and your abyss tier is decided by how well you do in comparision with other people.
You can decide to not breakthrough if you don't want this to happen.
Overall every valk is different. A few might not have their major effect there.
Or maybe some valks have additional other team effects (HLE has this one which is why she's more recommended for this team: https://i.imgur.com/hxrP3j7.png)
But for introductory purposes, look at 3pc effect to see how the valk can support the team. Do what you need to start that fancy name effect
Let's look at a different example
does this make sense so far? @hardy lintel
is there any way to change the pc keybind to m1 insted of j to attack?
there's a different control scheme altogether you can use called keyboard and mouse. Press right alt to swap to it rather than pure keyboard
and you can check options to rebind controls on either
wait so you can actually attack with mouse now?
https://i.imgur.com/8Pze72k.png i lightly brought it up earlier but here is JDS'
yes
holy huge that was my one problem with the game
sorry something came up
take your time. read through what i said carefully and get back to me when you're ready
@spiral badge is uh raiden mei still good the one with the two red masks around her
No
here's an example of what the abyss menu may look like later on (superstring dimension in exalted at captain level 81-88, replaces quantum manifold from lower captain levels) https://i.imgur.com/rMhHAnP.png
you can players are grouped together, and their scores are ranked against each other. When abyss closes you can see on the right the ones in the first three places will gain trophies.
Then on the left you can see the trophy count (1900).
meanwhile if you score too low compared to others you can see you will lose trophies https://i.imgur.com/4uhKs0F.png
and you can see your trophy count determines what tier you're in. You only group with people in your tier. Higher tiers have higher rewards. https://i.imgur.com/QsXHYI6.png
Redlotus is the main goal we set for f2p players. 500 crystals gained per cycle, or 1000 per week. (you only see 400 there because the abyss missions in the first screenshot gives the last 100)
what about elysia
uhhh the one that makes that big domain
they all do that
the crystal dome? The space sea looking one? The flower field?
the space sea one i think
Fundamentally, no valk is really competitive at this point which don't have an astral ring, beyond some niche MA strats. HoHe has gotten a divine key which gives her one which makes her playable.
ye the human ego one
herrscher of human ego. She is now farmable in War Treasury
She does have a new gacha only weapon that gives her astral ring functions to make her work on modern teams but at this point I do not recommend pursuing her meta wise. People who already have her can still appreciate using her, but players who don't are better off spending crystals on newer releases.
i wrote more here but this does use alot of lingo #š¶beginner-help message
Hi! Do I just tune it as it is or must I fully upgrade it first?
you can just tune
!faq tune
Sorry for the confusion, Captain! 
The warning that appears for tuning is translated poorly. Tuning a weapon turns it into a [Divine Key](#š¶beginner-help message) - the warning tries to tell you that...
When tuned, the weapon:
- Cannot be salvaged.
- Cannot be used to craft a PRI-ARM that is not its own.
- Can be used to craft its respective PRI-ARM.
- Gives you Divine Key bonuses such as +10 accountwide attack (see the Divine Keys Menu).
-# Please note that if you pull multiple copies of a Stellar Key (Part 2 Divine Key) you tune the one you will be upgrading - note that locked copies cannot be used to upgrade its Synergy level until unlocked, which takes 24h.
Nice thanku!
upgrading/maxing is for actual use but those use cases are more niche nowadays. You prob don't need to bother if you're asking here
if you still want to consider it, feel free to ask and we can go into more detail
oh i see whos good rn
The game is very niche heavy so who is best of the boss depends a lot on which boss it is, you can look at this to see the best teams last patch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FiSOdW-rEc
00:00 Intro
00:24 Week 1
00:40 Week 2
00:56 Week 3
01:14 Week 4
01:32 Week 5
01:51 Week 6
02:08 Week 7
02:25 Week 8
02:42 Week 9
03:00 Summary
03:11 Chart
03:33 So that's it~
V8.6 8.6 CN Abyss
Superstring Dimension
Nirvana - Myriad
#honkaiimpact3rd #honkaiimpact3 #honkaiimpact3rdpart2
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Ok I tuned it, was thinking of just levelling it a little to put on my HoO
How to get more Weapon EXP materials? (I'm broke on coins)
The main purpose to putting it on HoO is for higher ult damage for specific strategies. Mainly for memorial arena nowadays which isn't really important.
If you still want to do it, i encourage you to do so only with excess materials. Keep your low resources more for new releases that are actually priority
!faq pri arm
I'm here to help, Captain! 
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for information on what a PRI-ARM weapon is and the sources of Torus and SC Metal!
Costs:
here's part of the costs
Ahh ok! I wonāt use the Toruses since I canāt PRI ARM it anymore
mainly from doing weekly material expeditions stages daily. Some days will be valk exp while others will be weapon exp
if you're coin broke then...
!faq coins
I'm here to help, Captain! 
To save coins, upgrade your (M) Stigma to 5-star, and leave it unlevelled at Lv. 1/50!
Why? Because there is no damage loss doing so!
(See image below)
You'll save a chunk of coins and twin soul crystals, which can be used for upgrading other equipment!
NOTE: This does not apply to all (M) Stigmata, [click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for a more detailed explanation!
consider this advice for future investment
but also do you have alot of blue background, 3* base weapons (prob from gacha rolling)?
you can generally salvage those for a coin boost
Ohhh icic
Ah, okay!
Yeap
Try to be conservative with your resources overall
I need 200 more of the weapon exp for my Xentinel weapon, so it'll help.
oh that wasn't directed at you. It was for Xeno but i guess it's relevant to your case too
but yeah you can get a ton https://i.imgur.com/JrJUIb0.png
I only have three weapons to lvl 65, Mei's weapon would be my fourth
i do recommend keeping one of every unique weapon just in case something comes up for it
or maybe you didn't know some weapon you had was somehow unique and not easily reobtainable and didn't lock it beforehand (if you're a very old player, some old farmables aren't even obtainable anymore)
the absolute count doesn't tell me much. Overall resource gain and investment is a long term project
slightly related but i wrote alot about coin usages earlier today too. maybe give that a read #š¶beginner-help message
I'm broke, and it's still in the 1 little star.. I'm in 1038 coins right now š„
Even after selling all my blues
going broke on any and every resource is kinda normal esp if you're uninformed enough. Overall when approaching a new patch, or when early on try to be more conservative
but yeah try to make sure to clear the daily material expeditions going forward and working towards it over time from this point
I had 7m money overall, but weapon upgrading takes such
yeah it can be a surprising sink
I've been doing that for the past week
Cause I just returned
ah then yeah that's just how it is then. It's a long term development. There aren't any real shortcuts that are worthwhile
alot of other conversions can be rather detrimental down the road esp when coins is kind of the the lowest in the hierarchy
if you don't care for collectables/collection, but are desperate for coins then you may consider trashing low base rarity event stigmatas (also blue bg). I don't recommend this though
How about the regular blue ones?
those give NCCs (for affixes) and costs coins to trash
Oof
so it's kinda ironic
technically you can see the cost at the bottom here too
but it was a net gain
yeah so you can trash those, but again i don't recommend it.
Effect wise i don't recognize those to be notable though
but once you trash them, regaining them may take a while for it to show up in time capsule shop, and the cost is double of what you gained so it's net loss.
also upgrading them to max rarity gives you another point towards the collection menu. Eventually 3* base stigs are a relatively (still costly in masses) cheap way to gain a bunch of these if you ever need to rush for any collection milestones (crystals)
not related but
!faq planaroid
!faq planeroid
Hey, Captain! 
Planeroids are exchangable for more attempts for Material Events stages. You can only have up to 50 at once!
Captain will obtain Planeroids when Material Event stage attempts are not used. Make sure you remember to use them, and if you obtain Planeroids use them ASAP! If you're obtaining Planeroids abnormally, ensure that you have cleared the highest difficulty of all Material Stages with all 3 objectives completed.
see what your count on these are. Top right of material expedition https://i.imgur.com/VlhAgbj.png
you prob are better off using them while using stamina restoring items
but if you are capped (50) and are going to get more from anything uncleared here, then you can salvage them for 1000 coins each i suppose
1000 coins is a very pitiful amount i'm sure you now
so this really isn't a good use for it but maybe you can consider it if you need to be stamina focused for some reason (prob not)
Owh
I mean, I only have 31 coins left right now.. So that's even more pitiful, I'll take what I can get
I completely forgot there's a scavenger teir lmao 
try to see if you can hold any planaroids for refreshing a coin material expedition
tbh i don't know too well how refreshing works. i vaguely think there might be a further cap to that
but anyway if all else fails, that's something to gain a slight amount of
if you're settling for that sort of stuff then see if you can consider trashing these too in the coin menu https://i.imgur.com/Lye1D5i.png
fluid alloys are for 3* stigmata gear upgrades. In the long run you'll get more than what you need (also used for armada commissions)
if you ever plan to mass max a bunch of 3* stuff for rushing collection then it can become a bottleneck
or you can trash the mushroom item here, which are from sakura samsara open world, normally used in this menu which is not important at all https://i.imgur.com/7QWB7q4.png
or the parts box on the upper left which are from schicksals HQ open world. Those do have some use for progression there but eventually you can max it out and wind up with excess
tbh this is really just scrapping the bottom of the barrel for pennies but there you go
i don't recommend trashing anything else immediately atm at your current point of development really
there are other things that eventually can be useless/excessive but for now better to keep some on hand (and most other things don't convert to a nice rate)
alright i'm going to hop off for now but feel free to continue asking and others can still help
Only one character for the Elysian realm is kind of insane.
Should I just bring Mei and hope for the best lol
does anyone here happen to be in elites or masters? (level 56-80)
trying to get some screenshots
you'll get additional buffs through signets so that your character can easily clear elysian realm, mei shouldnt really have a lot of problems so you can kinda just use her
iirc there was a signets guide for mei lemme try if i can find it
I remember I tried on my old account but I was so ass at the game and I refused to read buffs I couldnt clear shit haha
That was a long time ago though
Pretty easy, frame rate is abysmal tho and I got unlucky with signets.
Astral Charging Build: https://youtu.be/a0FAOA9SEjU?is=bhe0NLiHRDIAxFcK
General Guide: https://youtu.be/1OuUjmE65G8?is=lmB2ArYLD45j_ZcV
Time Stamps
00:00 Setup
00:29 Quick Guide
00:39 Floor 1-7
01:59 Floor 8: Benares
02:52 Floor 10
03:38 Floor 11
04:24 Floor 12: Tank
05:38...
Should I wait until I get her weapon
Im still very far away. I feel like im struggling to get crystals
since the ER weather didnt refresh yet the buffs should look something like this
should be fine let me give it a try rq
Tyyy
I kinda went overboard and sold 1,4k of em.. Now I'm rich
It'll be fine
try to keep a little bit of everything around but it's prob fine for the fluid alloys lol
yeah thought so to but thinking about it a bit idk if mei might run into sp i still wanted to give it a try
Yippe!!!! 
I sold all I had
I won't be building any new valks soon anyways, unless The New Elysia Reruns
Omg how many pulls did it take you
To get this*
30
@hardy lintel when you get back, you can prob just review the rita tutorial in the game and then put together a rotation of:
Supports first (so HLE+JDS)
then dps (Rita) until support effects are done (25s)
then repeat, or enter outburst
do give the JDS leader team a try too. Sorry we couldn't converse.
Oops
Took me 50 pulls overall to pull Mei, her stigs and weapon
ššš
please plan for 60 for equipment pulls. Account for worst case scenarios
Damn im hella unlucky
60 * 280 is almost 17k crystals.
so that's why that number(s) gets thrown around here
not really they just were really lucky, we expect people to get rather close to pity on weapon banner since there also isnt a statistical soft pity and hitting pity in this game isnt necessarily that rare
I have 490 xtals, so I gotta be rich
treat good luck as a bonus. This game doesn't have wide ranges (no 50/50) for its gacha outcomes on average to worst so we can plan things more realistically
anyway for any further roll talk please move to #šægacha-saltš§
anyway doesnt seem like mei runs into any SP issues without her weapon in ER so you should be fine
But anyways, thanks for the help!
I think im just lucky when it comes to Mei, it was the same early pity for Raiden Shogun and Acheron
can you redo story stages wihtout wasting energy
though you might need to do a few basics here and there if the enemy is a bit more tanky but that shouldnt really be a problem
Are there more efficent ways to get gems besides story
This feels sort of ridiculous to me 
ER is a pretty hefty crystal mine since you can get 620 crystals per character + 500 a week so maybe try to focus on that for now, though you can only unlock 2 characters in your first week and then 1 every week so it's a bit more of a long term thing ig
but since you just unlocked ER you should easily get like 1400+ crystals out of it just by doing the weekly clear on abstinence + shallow sequence
As a F2P, is getting a higher rank Valk necessary?
ER also resets tmrw so make sure to do it today
at what level do you unlock er?
no, ranks are only really whale territory
50
even in nirv you are often fine with s0 +1 characters though other things like missing divine keys + not the right aop might hold you back to comfortably retain it
but that's something we can discuss later dw about it too much for now
Wait wait wait im 5 levels away!

Its over...
Yesss Im truamatized from my old account
It was so bad. Glad I never have to look at it again
Speaking of
If you need ER guide, feel free to ping me, I'll be responding after done working
dw too much about it i was just really stressing it so that you wouldnt miss out on crystals that you could get atm, if you're not there yet and prob wont get those levels today there's nothing you can really do about it
you still have a lot of time left for mei weapon so it shouldnt really effect you negatively
we also have a signet guide linked in pins if you need a quick guide for anyone just in general
Also mango, shouldn't they also try to get lunar dkey too? Like after getting mei wep?
idt they have luna
Is a +10 dmj
This one is my genuine asking, since idk if noobie should do it or not
i wouldn't worry about +10 atk until they have an established account first
in general, I'd say only people who consistently drop the equivalent of like $200 per patch or more consider ranking up gacha valkyries on release
maybe a bit less now that patches are longer tbh
that doesnt justify pulling it for beginners imo, they have other things to worry about than getting that +10 atk and when they are at that point to worry about that they could still backpull it just for the attack ( not recommended) or wait until we get it for free somehow
Uh-huh, understand now
Youre right leveling up takes forever haha
I have nothing left in the training guide either. Rip
it's kinda like... telling people to pull for 7t for +10 atk back in the day only for it to be in reserve work shop now
i don't expect the same timing for gacha stellar keys but maybe it's an eventuality
and overall the higher priority is for actual use/coverage which a weapon with no user won't provide
True
Don't
Unless you're a whel
Skin don't help your performance
the skins don't provide any additional benefits combat wise than looks so it would be a non meta decision in the end, i think it's fine if you're not really interested in the competitive aspect and just wanna chill in A3/RL but getting to that point would be the priority
if you still decide that you think it's worth your crystals always make sure you can gurantee them
!faq pyramid
Be careful, Captain! 
Please see Professor Lyo's summary [here](#š¶beginner-help message) Regarding Gacha (Pyramid) outfits.
Gacha (Pyramid) Outfits
- DO NOT PULL UNLESS YOU CAN HARD PITY. NON-NEGOTIABLE.
- You need 9600
or 7680
if there is a discount.
- You need 9600
- No competitive benefit.
Actually, skin can do more harm than help, since most of the skin effects your frame rate 
yeah but you wouldnt really care about frame rate if your chilling in RL anyway 
well some might but not f2ps who pull skins
I mean, my phone id already lagging with Xentinel and Badum's Skill effects-
Doesn't stop me from pulling it tho 
the skins should have some kind of test stage so if that's a legitimate concern for your case make sure to test them out there beforehand
The value of buying gems is really bad in this game holy
Ah right, the skin for Badum, it won't rerun.. Won't it?
100 dollars doesnt even give you 50???
It will eventually

most of the time you wouldnt wanna buy crystals directly but rather invest in high value deals
!faq whaling
Ai-chan is here, Captain! 
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for the cost-effective whaling guide!
Short answer:
- Level Rush and very high value B-Chip Bundles.
- Monthly Card.
- Level bundles (will expire if left too long).
- Knight BP.
- Crystal top-up with 2x bonus.
- B-Chip packs (find highest Crystal:B-Chip ratio)
- Paladin BP.
- Crystal top-up without 2x bonus.
yeah you can have a look at the whaling guide in the pins since direct money to pulls conversion is oof, bundles is where its at
it will this version actually
week 5-6
Really?

YIPPREEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Which would be first, Ellie's or Kiana's?
I still need to pull for new ely outfit
Ely
Ely would rerun again, right?
Aight, gotta go work, seeya all later
for future reference the schedule is pinned in #šgameplay-help 
See ya
at some point probably but we can't really ensure anything
i'd say the baseline is like 1 rerun a year
I see, if that's the case I'll save for Badum's
I have 490 xtals at the moment, so I'm very rich
just make sure you have enough and be aware of what you might be missing out on
by the time badum's skin is here we should have some more info about 8.8 so maybe ask again how usefull that might be
and then decide for yourself
I don't even have the new Ellie's battle suit
yeah pulling it wouldnt really be ideal then 


35 pulls with no weapon yet š©
Pull at night, Trust
Pact of companionship and caesar stigs
Is that f2p friendly
depends on the definition
worst case it's 16.8k crystals and the usual f2p income for a patch is like ~23k
Sorry does anyone have a list of the free s rank we get this patch?
honestly it's not the gear thats the issue, its whether you have the teammates and/or are wanting to pull for them regardless of meta considerations. Notably valkyries with either the Symbiosis Astral ring support tag or that have the Law of Ascension ring type which she can support
Not really but else she isn't really doing anything meaningful
the list would be a bit too long tbh 
basically anyone who's in here https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/War_Treasury + HoTr
also if you're looking at the Valkyrie overwie at the bottom of the page HoHe is not there for some reason
she's should also be in that box
but regarding the box i'd keep it until we know more about 8.8
oh wait ig we also have this
!faq boxvalk
CAPTAINNNNNNNN! 
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for advice on the most recent S-rank option box.
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) to see general guidance of what to choose - mainly for old boxes you have saved up.
Short explanation:
- Keep the box until your account is more established.
- None of these characters are good for practical use.
- High-end competitive players would usually choose the 23x2 ATK affix device, or...
- If you can justify opening it, unlock a valkyrie that is not farmable and in ER if possible. Ancient Legacy farmed Valkyries that are in ER at a push.

Oh I was just gonna pick Senti and use her with Mei until I get actual good teammates
I kinda hate the Terminal Bronya im sorry
tbh that wouldnt really do a lot, the main buff that HoS provides for physical teams would be an impair, which mei already has build into her stigs
if you dont like playing terminal aide you can just swap her out for RC/SI, sure it's not the most optimal choice but it shouldnt matter that much tbh
Wow thats really tragic.
Ngl shes a bigger issue for me. Why des she never have her burst lol
you're not supposed to ult with her
you jump, weapon active then switch
Where her weapon 
Oh that makes sense
Do you mean me? Cause I havent done part 2 yet
Yes
Oh sorry I havent done it cause spoilers, only chapter one to get her and training guide
her weapon is also from chapter 1
it's the second prize you get
the first being coralie
Oh
Ill get it then
how do i get my characters passed level 40
raise your captain level past 40
what abt weapon mine wont go passed 35
which weapon
?
4 star
if a weapon starts at 3 star and maxes out at 4 star, the weapon's max level is 35
you need a weapon that starts at 4 star and caps at 5 star
^
I got it ty
wait does raiden mei herr thunder not have an e?
Does your HoT have her signature?
uhhh what would be her sig
Domain of Sanction as her Pri-Arm
But Key of Castigation if you haven't Upgraded it
Or do you have her other weapon, Seven Thunders of Retribution: Narukami
uhhh how do i get those
š
old characters like HoT don't have a weapon active unless the weapon they're holding has one
oh so i just dont get an e skill
yeah newer characters have one regardless of weapon, old ones don't
Very old ones didn't have one 
rigged
so the only way i can gt an e skill is with a weapon
yeah
any 5 star weapon or
depends on the weapon
does total dmg give the same damage increase as an equal amount of ele/ phys dmg
hm? wdym?
rarity dont mean they must have skill
just look at what it says for the weapon
open world adventure tasks and events
or just buy with asteries or do expedition
how exactly do i find them open world...
Yall
I chose to start a new acc and got the new mei early, are there other banners i shud pull on
Are the red dragon girl/chinese kiana starter banners worth
attack > start > open world
Are they the right level to unlock open world though?
unlocks at level 40 i think
Apho yeah
ye im running around mindlessly killing things
did you get mei's weapon?
is kiana kaslana any good
which one, there's like 10
No
herr of void
But i alr did like 30 on the starter banners
get mei's weapon, that's how you build her
she's good for beginner accounts at the start but falls off later as you progress
mei and her weapon are the targets if you don't already have them
does the pity carry over
battlesuit supply and equipment supply pity does carry over
starter supply pity does not
whats the method t ogetting gems
Are stigmatas always craftable
early game, most of your crystals will come from story but more sources will open up as you level up
for part 2 characters yes

Oh 41 days left
if i were to do ALL the story... how would i be able to get mei and weapon pity?
Is it a good idea to keep pulling on dragon coralie before i get mei's weapon
I got XMei in one 10 pull. Should I try to get her weapon?
i would prioritize mei's weapon first
she would, normally we don't recommend pulling on starter supply though
yes
then you would do some of the other modes like elysian realm and q manifold for crystals as well as the other crystal sources linked above
heyy i got mei in a lucky 10 pull, i just came back so i hav no crystals rn but i also want lunaās new weapon. what should i prioritize?? im 23 pity away
im thinking lunaās new weapon since its going away faster but i might not be able to get meiās
will probably depend a good bit on your goals and what other astral ring valkyries you have
i have every pt2 character and pt2 dkey except rita and simp
then the luna divine key is probably a lower priority if youāre mostly interested in abyss score. you have plenty of goi valks to work with mei
if youāre after the divine key because luna is a favorite character tho, obviously you do that
hmm okay thank uuu
np!
Hello, anyone here who can help me with Q-manifold?
@spiral badge idk if you are available rn, so sorry leaving got cought up by some irl stuff unfortunatly
i said what i needed to say earlier so just catch up with that. Check your discord inbox or use search filters here to find the past posts
i'm about to be away so I can't stick around for anything indepth
Abyss just closed also 
if you need help on what to do with rita dps beyond the tutorial (which i do admit might not be the best), then just ask and others will help. Esp if you can show a recording
oh right
well what i more want to see covered are just foundationals anyway
maybe you can try rita on mirage physical 6 (kallen boss who is elemental immune)
general idea of rita as a dps is alot of things link into a secondary weapon active input
and you want to focus on building up her meter and consuming it
one not so intuitive method (the tutorial does cover this though iirc) is to evade > attack > weapon iirc (this will consume your evasion skill. you will see a blue bar around the perimeter indicating it's on cooldown)
yeah as riley have said
what's important is you learn how to generally play so you're ready next time
alot of what i talked about earlier are very applicable to other things
like the stig 3pc stuff
so go explore your roster and descriptions in the meantime
anyway my time is up. see you
thanks! ill make sure to check what u told me and put it on practice
I have a zaza team of Badum Vita PAWS that I tired to use to bruteforce pistachio, but my score ended up being abysmal because I have no clue how to play LoA well, can sm1 help me fix it?
Tbf Pish has a bleed shield that probably makes him more tanky 
Lowk how do you grind gems (returning player)
!faq crystals
Ai-chan is here, Captain! 
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!
Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!
The more consistent sources are at the bottom, the more grindable ones are at the top
It's also best if you show your valks + weaps + stigs, it might be better to make a new acc entirely
(the returnee event sucks)
Is any1 able to help Im so desperate 
Should I just make a new account
Yeah, it would be a good idea imo
Especially if you've spent a lot of pulls on Sparkle
Is salting not a allowed or
Do I need like a new email
You can keep the acc if you wanna then, but you may struggle with Prisms
It's allowed
Lowk how should I set up this fresh account
Is there an ER website or FAQ
Pinned here and in #šgameplay-help
Oh ty
!faq lost
I got this, Captain! 
The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!
See the channel pins of #š¶beginner-help for more:
- Account Progression Pointers: [Click here](#š¶beginner-help message)!
- What to pull right now: [Click here](#š¶beginner-help message)!
- Valkyries you should buy for Asterite: [Click here](#š¶beginner-help message)!
- Clearing up misconceptions about the meta: [Click here](#š¶beginner-help message)!
!faq whaling
Ai-chan is here, Captain! 
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for the cost-effective whaling guide!
Short answer:
- Level Rush and very high value B-Chip Bundles.
- Monthly Card.
- Level bundles (will expire if left too long).
- Knight BP.
- Crystal top-up with 2x bonus.
- B-Chip packs (find highest Crystal:B-Chip ratio)
- Paladin BP.
- Crystal top-up without 2x bonus.
This should answer your questions
Ofc feel free to ask if you don't understand smth
The pins here have a lot of useful info too, but I'd focus on what I've sent for now
why cant i use the new mei in some story stages
Because Hoyo said so pretty much
Starting from Chapter 7 you won't be able to use your own valks at all
what the hell
So focus current banner
Yes (with weapon!)
And since im spending gems im also working toward the current event that gives rewards for spending
Yes, I'd not buy anything there for now though
Gotta wait for more info about the next patch
We should get it in a week or two
Came out on last Thursday
i. e. a couple of days fresh
Sweet
5.5 weeks left
Oh, btw, in regards to spending
I understood nothing in the faq
If you're willing to buy a box with Lunar Vow for 1680 B-chips in the LTO shop you should start pulling her new gear set and only then Mei + weap
The new gear set's duration is shorter
Just start a new acc and consult the FAQs as you progress
Or stay on your current one
Why not any of the other 3
Because the new gear set I'm talking about is specifically for Lunar Vow
And all 4 valks in the box are useless without brand new gear
Is the paid level rush worth
Yes, but only for the crystals
The monthly pass is higher value though
Level Rush pays out the crystals faster
Is tuning the new Dkey while not PRI safe?
Sorry for the confusion, Captain! 
The warning that appears for tuning is translated poorly. Tuning a weapon turns it into a [Divine Key](#š¶beginner-help message) - the warning tries to tell you that...
When tuned, the weapon:
- Cannot be salvaged.
- Cannot be used to craft a PRI-ARM that is not its own.
- Can be used to craft its respective PRI-ARM.
- Gives you Divine Key bonuses such as +10 accountwide attack (see the Divine Keys Menu).
-# Please note that if you pull multiple copies of a Stellar Key (Part 2 Divine Key) you tune the one you will be upgrading - note that locked copies cannot be used to upgrade its Synergy level until unlocked, which takes 24h.
I can still use it to make as a PRI right?
You actually need to tune it to make the PRI version of it
I see. I got the damn thing in just 8 pulls.
Nice
4/4 in just 8 pulls....
Should I go for HLE if she rerun this time? Or there's better option?
I'm 10K short on spending event to get 300 tokens.
I cannot skip anything on this patch or else I'll not get Songque AO
- Don't forget that there will be 20 free Carnival pulls (i. e. 5600 crystals)
- Assuming that you've alr got Mei + weap + LV dkey you could throw the remaining pulls on the dkey (you either get Syn2 or the pity carries over)
The second point assumes that you're a competitive player
If you aren't a competitive player Songque AO won't do much for you anyway
I'm not really a competitive player. I just want to clear and move my life
Is it really worth it to Sync II a dkey for 5 attack?
If you aren't a competitive player no
If you really want to you can go for HLE if you'll be able to afford the next patch afterwards
Most of my characters are already reaching 1400+ att
I wouldn't do more pulls than necessary for the spending event (unless you actually get her, in which case you should get her weapon)
That's the problem. I have already spent 30K overall including tickets. I have like enough to reach 45K and that's all
Then I wouldn't risk it
I can wait until the end of patch but still it's a lot of work.
The spending event will be gone at that point
Yes that's the problem.
Maybe I'll skip that free Songque and just go for the upcoming one.
Anyways thank you so much for the help. I have to go now.
Where do you find the thing where you try find things in the area for crystals
I forgot to do it last patch
I think new version or something
okay found it, just had to switch to chapter new
How do u use the special skills in the event mode????
the flashing icon on meis left is the special skill
tap it, tap the enemy, choose a card to discard
O thx
is the songque astralop worth getting from the shop? only have dreamseeker but not sure if it's worth more than the songque battlesuit
Sonque is a small but noticable upgrade on DS for many elemental teams. Sonque battlesuit is not especially useful unless you can get her weapon.
current advice is to wait for carnival pulls and to hear more news about next patch
but if you're in a rush sonque aop is probably the best pick from what we know now
oh wasn't planning to use the suit, it was just for the free crystals from ER. What do carnival pulls have to do with this tho
carnival pulls give additional curency
even the free ones? since it's the only i'll do, i've got everyone of those banners
yes, the 20 free pulls still count towards spending event
gotcha, ty
Hiii, im a HI3 beginer, i just joined 2 days ago, today is my second time logging in, i just finished chapter 2 and got REALLY lucky with my pulls and got Xentinel Mei! im wondering what/who should be my pulling priority?
Get her weapon.
Every modern valk loses way too much damage without weapon to be usable as dps without it.
ok so weapon is better than the fire Kiana from begineer banner
also
are there any A ranks i can use with Xen Mei?
btw does Gear pity carry over?
quite sure coralie is the only option and you pretty much get her and her weapon for free
I hope so
how to get her?
ohh
i think i found her
You can use Valkyrie Blastmetal (In asterite shop and part 2 story) and then you can use terminal aide third
terminal aide is a little cope but she's better than nothing
TA is also in asterite shop
Yes on standard gear banners. No on carnival and starter banner
Standard gear is rate up?
as in equipment supply A and B
and Battlesuit supply
those ones carry over pity
other banners usually dont
should i do part 2? or should i at least try to clear some of part 1 first
okk
Part 1
You should probably clear the beginning of part 2 story to get vbm weapon but then back to part 1
part 1 gives way more pulls per time spent
So many more crystals if thatās what you want
but you want to get VBM weapon since it's free really early on
ok, who is it good for?
ye at least a bit of part 2 to get those reward, it's also not overly spoilery on the first chapters. Part 1 if you want to clear it all will take a lot of time
Valkyrie Blastmetal, VBM; it's her signature weapon
and she's the best free support
weapon is called blast hammer blazing red
Oh is she like a flexible Astral RIng?
yes. She's only really good in ROO but she's way better than nothing for every ring
Anyway as a newbie your suggestion goes get Mei (already done), Get VBM + weapon (free from story). However here you have a secision point. You really want to get Mei's weapon before her banner goes away, however you do have 5 weeks on it
and you might want to get her some supports
so your options are
- Just get Mei weapon and save (probably best in long run)
ok
- Save up pulls for carnival (when you have 70 pulls you can pull for badum kiana or FDD on carnival)
- Get mei + wep and then save 90 pulls for starter banner
The new Beginer banner has BOTH of her supports and lasts around 80 days, if i save for a guarentee like in Endfield for the beginner banner i have a stragegical advantage
Yes, but actually if you can afford it it's better to get one of them from carnival next week
since it's 90 pulls to pity but you get 20 free pulls on carnival
however carnival banner is shorter and if you don't get it before it vanishes it goes away
oh ok
so you'll want to have 70 pulls stocked up beforehand or you'll have to skip
Helloo just to be sure i need to tune the lunar vow weapon right?
Who can I use to substitute coralie in luna team?
is the New Elysia woth getting over the others tho? i heard that shes more flexible
Pretty sure, it's a dk after all
btw is the only way to get A rank Coralie from the astrite shop or can i also get herf rom part 2 story?
Alrightt thx
Eh. HLE supports WoD, Grail, WS. Badum supports LOA, Grail, WS. FDD supports RoO, Grail, LoA
generally speaking Badum is one of the best WS and Grail supports, and FDD is one of the best Grail and LOA supports, whereas HLE only really gets notable support roles in WoD
HLE does have more dps shill
but that would require getting her weapon
whereas badum can support just fine without hers
Omg I want to get Kiana so bad but I donāt want to back pull and I have done everything other then like half of the part 2 story
And I donāt have enough to get her and her gearš
The agony
Is there any leaks on when she will rerun again?
How many crystals do you have
I hope you understand discussion of leaks is strictly forbidden on the official hoyo servers
Upcoming banners based on cn banners can be found in #š®cn-gameplay-discussion pins
you can always try to get lucky on carnival with free pulls, but I cant advise spending more than that unless you can hit 70 pulls
I meant cn
I usually say leaks because itās kind of like a sneak peek for global
outside of Carnival I have no idea when to next expect her rerun; her Asc supply is vaguely expected in 2 patches from now tho
What build for XDC on Elysian without weapon btw
what is carnival
Iām so sorry
!faq carnival
Excited for the free pulls, Captain? 
Please see Professor Lyo's guide to Carnival Supply and what to pull in the current iteration [here](#š¶beginner-help message).
No worries, but its just to be safe
Since rules are enforced heavily in this server
I donāt want to say it so lowš but I do know about the carnival 20 but I know I probably wonāt get lucky so I was trying to see if there was any information on when she will come on ascension supply or just a normal banner
Asc supply is expected in 2 patches but no guarentees
just guesswork
it's unclear if she will have any other banners between now and then
bruh im already like 40 pulls deep in the FDD starter banner
When you mean patch do you mean version or what?
yes
š¢
Well you can stop pulling on it now, see if you get lucky, and then if not go back to starter. Or you could pull for badum on carnival and maybe lucksacc both her and fdd
Can she not come on a normal banner cause I remember we had ps right before this patch for like 24 days
it's possible but no guarentees on that either. And she's already had two carnival banners so š¤·
Because Iāve been playing for a while, and I have not saw her on a banner in a LONG time
she ran in her debut patch, then a rerun in peregrine sword patch, then nothing for 2 patches, carnival in hle, nothing, carnival in Mei patch
What build does XDC use in Elysian
Dang, Iām really hoping that she does come out soon because we got regin Solaris I think after hle so she might be soon I forgot if vita was before or after regin
yeah RS has rerun a lot and badum almost never
But yeah. You can definitely get her this patch if you can afford her, and probably in 2 patches likewise, and whether she'll show up next patch is anyone's guess
||If some of the speculation in cn gameplay is true it seems plausible but there's no guarentees here||
Where can i find all available codes
unsure whether or not i should pick JD from spending event
i think i like the astral op design more and would alternatively go for her but it depends if shes any good
I just did a crystal calculator so definitely not even going to go for it probably only if thereās like some good deals on pulls for the carnival supply bchip shop because I might just go for her and pull the weapon. The next time she comes out, but I really just hate not having a characterās weapon
Why no pin for MKanon's XDC elysian guide 
Heyyy i dont have coraline is there any other valkyrie that can replace ?
I started the game when hle released
Part 1 story
Mei Badum HLE is good
Better than coralie sometimes
sometimes?
It depends on the abyss
Theyāre always close
But sometimes coralie is a little better and sometimes hle is a little better
This last abyss HLE was better but thereās times where Cora breach is more important
Okii thank youu
And i just saw i stoped the game few weeks when there was the end of the rita banner and i was wondering when was the hle skin realeased i didnt see it :(
It's not out yet
HLE skin is releasing in a few weeks
Maybe check the in game info tab if they already announced something, the banner should start somewhere in week 2 of the patch
what specific features does Behold! Fate defying dragon coralie have that uniquely make her great mechanically?
Sheās a breach support
Which is good at getting through resistance
And also some misc like the fact that sheās also mech
So if itās a bio enemy her personal damage is going to be notable
Also ignite and such but that mostly doesnāt come up when supporting Mei
*Breach
Whoops yes
I find it quite bizarre Behold! Fate defying dragon coralie is mech and planar armament: warped spacetime Helia is bio
Ohhh im happyyy then
You need 9600 crystals for it btw if you donāt know
Should i pull kiana badum weapon when she come back bcz shes in lot of teamĆ
Okiii ill farm i have a lot of story and things to do
And the skins on the 14 of march
Okii thank youu for letting me know
Well the decision is up to you in the end, from a meta perspective skins don't really serve any use so the advice would be to just skip them but if you think that the skin is worth it the crystals for you then going for it is fine as well imo.
In the end it's all about weighing the positives and negatives for yourself and then deciding.
Just have enough pulls to guarantee the skin because it's like a 80% chance you'll get it in the last pull
I restarted the game (made a new account bcz mine was too old) bcz i saw hle thatās why iām excited about her skin. Ill try farming and if i have enough ill go for it or ill skip it to pull other charas
By the time her skin arrives we should also have some more news about 8.8 so maybe check #š®cn-gameplay-discussion pins by then to see if any of the content released in the next version interests you
would that work when they got bleed on them?
Yepp iāll check that out too
why arent there more yae sakura battlesuits
ikr
I never did the side, quest and exploration for all of the story open world quest is there any where that shows how much I would get from doing side quest and exploration
hi guys
do you have any pre-made decks for new event??
Did you give the guide in the pins a read already ?
If not have a look at it and ask if you have any further questions
will give it a read, thank you!
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Can try this
Itās what Iāve been using
thanks!
also can you please tell me who is better in support meta rn: kiana or coralie?
Which ones for each? Please use battle suit names
FDD and FWS?
But also there's prob no true answer. They're used for different things that shine in their own specific situations and sometimes both are used.
But yeah they have multiple, especially Kiana
Coralie dragon and Festive Kiana
sorry i donāt remember all their names
FWS is CNY Kiana
FDD is Dragon Coralie 
that's fine those are descriptive enough
Both have pretty long battlesuit names tbf
but do try to become familiar with the acronyms over time as you interact with the community more and more. It'll come naturally as you do
in the future you can refer to glossary in the pins too
anyway what prompted this? If you're rerolling or considering them from carnival free pulls then either have their merits really
but if you're looking to spend crystals/tickets/money on them or their weapons, then that's not really recommended for f2p or light spenders
you can read through lyo's carnival guide in the pins for each of them too
itās like okay
who is more important for current meta ig? like for new ar like mei and helia have
cause i have everyone except S-rank Kiana, S-rank Coralie, new Theresa DLC (but i planning to get it), Songque and Sparkle
oh thanks
also i have love elf ely s2
should i go for ss on her incoming rerun?
it also kinda depends on what you're going for in the meta. Both can be important at a high level (but this also assumes weapon which i don't recommend catching up on anymore)
but for a lower level, it won't matter so much as supports. P2 is alot more balanced as long as the team matches each other
no. Ranks from gacha on new releases are largely optional for most intents and purposes and only for very high leaderboard rankings
okay, thanks!!!
so it seems just dlc and then save
you only really go after ranks when they don't cost crystals. So stuff like spending events or supply shop
yeah pretty much
Or carnival
if you get lucky yeah but don't count on that
today carnival ?
Friday
is it today? idk
i got 2 sushangās in one 10 pull at 90 pity, soā¦
luck is not going to be same in all future situations. Treat any good luck like that as a bonus
Carnival
i mean in last carnival
anyway lets focus more on FDD and FWS for now
i want to ask first what is your understanding of team building? If i start saying stuff like rite of oblivion or heavenly shift, do you know what those mean? #š¶beginner-help message


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