👶beginner-help

[sweet flax]

thankfully it never left the "considered" phase

[misty blade]

Damn

[primal heron]

u can

ask CS

#how-to-contact-cs

[warped geyser]

IT WAS IN THE FUCKING BUSHES HELLO

i wish every open world sandbox had a locator or something cause wtf

[ancient canopy]

hi! 2 questions;
1 i read somewhere that miracle magic girl its the only character worth buying on war treasury is it true? i can get her right now and wondering if i should.
2 i have 48 immutable crystallum and was wondering how to use it, i have crafted sakuras pledge but from the immutable crystallum faq its the only one i got so far, any advice on how to spend it?

[storm lantern]

definitely not true that mmg is the only char worth getting from wt, she was one of very few that had uses in abyss but she doesn't anymore and it was impossible to get to that point as a new player anyway. get chars in er from wt

for the crystallums dkeys are probably the only things that will be useful for you but you can keep an eye on #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion for upcoming bps

[misty blade]

i did send a request, sadly they told me that if i wanted to delete data even my hsr account would lost so it's impossible

thanks for suggesting it tho

does doing this break any tos btw? or am i safe doing that?

[feral wedge]

Hi a quick question, for the dlc of the herrschers if I don't get the weapon should I farm for the stigs too?

[quick birch]

no, the new stigmata sets from HoFi and Hohe both require the atral ring system for a lot of buffs

[feral wedge]

Oh I see so if I don't have the weapon even with the stigs is pretty much useless

[feral wedge]

Thx a lot 🙏

[undone zephyr]

anyone know when 8.5 releases?

[warped geyser]

oct 23 iirc

[misty blade]

btw in the end i simply logged in through google, so i basically have the same email

but new account

[quick birch]

just to still answer your other question no it wouldn't, we wouldn't suggest things that go against the ToS since we also have to adhere to them as mentioned in the server rules

[misty blade]

yeah i imagined but wanted to double check in case, thanks for answering me tho. Have a nice afternoon or whatever time it is where you live

[dry star]

is VBM considered heavy attack?

[ancient needle]

No

The valks that have Heavy Attacks are marked as such

iirc SnS is the last one

[dry star]

oh so its the ancient valks

[charred cloud]

SnS was the last one

Heavy Attack is just not a used mechanic in current day bosses

[dry star]

yeah I can tell I was trying to figure out who to use for the first memorial arena boss

[ancient needle]

Surprised they aren't using Fortitude in Abyss/MA btw

[charred cloud]

Well tbf SSS Heimdall doesn't utilize heavy attack mechanics anyways

[dry star]

since its favored by psy + heavy attack

[charred cloud]

SS Heimdall does and well u can sorta ignore that with new gen valks probably :)

[dry star]

oh it doesnt? it was just the boss summary that said recommended to use heavy atk

ahh okok

[charred cloud]

SSS is a different variant of the boss

[dry star]

I fear I may need to main dps A coralie for this

[charred cloud]

Goes from Heavy attack gimmicks to Bleed/Ignite ones when u go from SS to SSS in memorial arena

[dry star]

ah I see

[ancient needle]

Don't you have multiple S-ranks atp

[charred cloud]

speaking of which. Teammate do u know whats the cap for FDD related teams on SSS Heimdall?

[ancient needle]

New ones I mean

[ancient needle]

No clue

[charred cloud]

cuz ik LV has a high bar of 2-3s

[ancient needle]

I'm not the person to ask about MA

[charred cloud]

profs never failing me

[dry star]

yeah but theyre bio heavy
PS, PAWS, FDD, A coralie and SSS felix
stage 1: A coralie, felix
stage 2: paws and PS
stage 3: FDD solo

ill just run with this prob

[ancient needle]

You're overestimating the strength of TC

VBm DPS is not a thing

[amber finch]

is there a free 46 atk in 8.5

[ancient needle]

idts

[amber finch]

sadge

[dry star]

I dont have anyone else for first stage
Ig I could put PAWs or PS solo for first stage? even if theyre vs mecha so less damage?

[ancient needle]

iirc your PS is weapless?

[dry star]

no theyre all 4/4

[ancient needle]

Ah, misremembered then

[dry star]

I dont pull the valk unless I can 4/4

[charred cloud]

Are they 81+?

[dry star]

no worries
yeah im 81

[charred cloud]

Cuz u can just prepare for SSS and take the performance loss on SS heimdall

[amber finch]

btw dont you have any other supports

[dry star]

yeah true
tbh most of my memorial arenas are bricked unless its shilling the most recent 3 valks

[autumn oxide]

ches score

[amber finch]

even p1 valks as a support will help even if its just a tiny bit

[amber finch]

not playing this abyss so its only 681

[dry star]

I have Terminal Aide, Felix, uh... any of the asterite shop A ranks I can raise

[charred cloud]

Meanwhile MA is a p1 focused week

[dry star]

I started hi3 during PS banner

[ancient needle]

Split PAWS and PS

PS on the first one

[dry star]

oki

[amber finch]

ps fdd ta
paws rc cora
if you want to all in then ps paws fdd for first sss and then you die on bull

[ancient needle]

The SS boss doesn't matter too much

[charred cloud]

dying on bull regardless tbf but u can die less painfully

[dry star]

ok I'll try that, thanks!
btw is it worth like, uh, leveling TA equips high
I was avoiding putting too many resources in

[amber finch]

its just picking between taking cyanide or have a nuclear bomb thrown on you

[dry star]

[charred cloud]

tbh I'd take the nuke. Probably ends my suffering sooner than the cyanide

[amber finch]

her dmg is negligible, she’s usually off-field for you, unless she’s 4/4?

[dry star]

my felix is high invest simply because I like her a lot

[dry star]

nah TA is on newbie starter shop stigs and weapon

[autumn oxide]

whale score in nirv

[amber finch]

rl

[autumn oxide]

felix navidad

[amber finch]

havent been playing at all these days

[autumn oxide]

real

[charred cloud]

low RL score

[autumn oxide]

ive been playing hk so no time to mald

i -100 last cycle cos i forgot to do side stage

[amber finch]

yeah you can swap the stigs to more support dominate stigs for a bit of a better score, maybe

actually what am i saying you just need to clear the boss

[autumn oxide]

i did abyss, went to play hk, realised it was sunday after finalisation

[dry star]

ok thanks! ill roll with this, its as good as its gonna get for now

[amber finch]

im not playing this patch

just logging in and do stuffs at the bare minimum

[charred cloud]

its not the first 680 i've seen for RL

[dry star]

im almost 4/4 on my rc too I think shes fun

[charred cloud]

To which I already told them low score

[amber finch]

what’s hieu le’s score actually

[autumn oxide]

711

[amber finch]

sheesh 750

[amber finch]

rl mf

why are you giving me nirb scores

[charred cloud]

711 is with DS

[ancient needle]

That's RL

[charred cloud]

750 with CX

[amber finch]

oh wait im lbind

ey only 30 points behind i’ll take it

[charred cloud]

Somewhere in between for Teri

[autumn oxide]

since when does this stupid cheese hv an ss aop

[amber finch]

neber

[autumn oxide]

ss teri/sonk shd get u at least 740

[amber finch]

i am thinking of getting ss chen next patch

[ancient needle]

Since when he started whaling

[autumn oxide]

yea so why are u looking at the 2 SO run dummy

[amber finch]

im trying to get into the mindset of a ss aop haver

[charred cloud]

anything below 700 just sounds low for RL standards

[amber finch]

maybe i’ll get ss chen next patch smh

[autumn oxide]

even with evade mald s teri isnt worth going 2 SO for, dont hv s sonk or s cx to try

[amber finch]

im t1 in my bracket rn

[autumn oxide]

"maybe i'll get ss aop one patch aft her shill"

[amber finch]

i think its just bc of bird being stupid

[amber finch]

y not smh

[autumn oxide]

same! berwi is t3 cos no aop HAHA NOOB

[charred cloud]

"My" RL standards

[amber finch]

whel standards

[autumn oxide]

rl standard = hv bis team must 800

[amber finch]

wait what’s 8.5’s main ring

i see

[ancient needle]

||GoI valk, WS dkey||

[amber finch]

ss chen it is if i dont get shafted super hard

[charred cloud]

Doomed to fail rings

[autumn oxide]

think sera may be on par with sonk for morb but eh

[amber finch]

shouldve been loa

[amber finch]

guaranteed meta for 50 years

[dry python]

WHALE

[autumn oxide]

mwahahaha

[amber finch]

NUH UHH

[autumn oxide]

ss+2 vita, ss cx

[charred cloud]

if im getting SS AOs its probs Teri since it doubles for RoO

[dry python]

We're not talking about me here

[charred cloud]

sets me up nicely for MA

[ancient needle]

I mean, CX doubles for RoO as well

[dry python]

Chen also doubles for roo

[amber finch]

oh also cay look i got 3 monthlies

[charred cloud]

GoI is dead to me

[ancient needle]

Actually better in RoO too

[amber finch]

inb4 i quit the game for 3 months

[autumn oxide]

dint get me one

[charred cloud]

No PAWS and hard skip next patch

[amber finch]

WHATT

COME ONN

[amber finch]

shouldve dmed me smh

[ancient needle]

Smh not funny enough to pin

[dry python]

That's 4 monthlies 107 + 13

[amber finch]

the diana the cow shadow is too big

[dry python]

It's not but it's undeniable proof

[ancient needle]

Real

[charred cloud]

CX is nice for dmg but I'd still need her at SS for actual "performance" differences

[amber finch]

oh yeah i thought my initial one was abt to end but turns out i had a whole 17 days left

[charred cloud]

Teri just offers more for the acc rn

[dry python]

Wait this is beginner help

[amber finch]

yiz

[dry python]

I thought it was honkai chat

Ok I'm unpinning that

[amber finch]

lemao

[dry python]

Someone did it for me

[amber finch]

i have too much on my pulling agenda rn

[amber finch]

betting it on uhhh me

[charred cloud]

Cay can u mald my SSS Mysticism opener

[amber finch]

can someone sponsor me 50 pulls

[dry python]

I don't even do my ma sometimes

[amber finch]

i swear i’ll put it to good use

[charred cloud]

Thats fine this fight will make up for your laziness

[amber finch]

if ma had a seniority system like “600 days or more = lite for life” then i wouldnt be doin ma

[charred cloud]

It does in the form of boomer strats

Something 90% of the current player base can't use

[amber finch]

[dry python]

My brother is cooking French toast at 2am

[dry python]

I'll pass

[amber finch]

goals

[dry python]

Fr he's my goat

[amber finch]

tell him to make me a slice

[dry python]

Ok

[amber finch]

oh also someone in vn has been selling a hov fig for like 20 dollars for a year now

he really wants it gone

[autumn oxide]

@ lyo

[dry star]

wait, I need to do all 3 stages right?

not just the first 2
unless most of the pojnts are from first 2?

[quick birch]

you want to focus on the SSS bosses because they give 20 crystals each if you reach a certain point goal

[charred cloud]

First 2 is more pts cuz of SSS difficulty + extra rewards depending on your SSS score

[quick birch]

SS is kinda whatever if you dont care about ranking

[amber finch]

just the sss bosses for the lite

[dry star]

oh okay
do just do whatever on HoV stage

okok

[amber finch]

you can just ignore it if you want to

[charred cloud]

well yes but not exactly whatever on HoV

[amber finch]

its not like you have more options for it

[dry python]

Which hov fig

[amber finch]

you’re literally using ta rc with paws😭

[amber finch]

the parasol one

[dry star]

oh ive been bricking my SSS stage because i have to split my 3 p2 valks on 3 stages

[charred cloud]

well she does eliminate 2 dmg types

[amber finch]

this baddie

[charred cloud]

Crazy

[dry python]

Insane

A tenth of the price

Ches if I go to Vietnam one day can I have choco bread

[amber finch]

its not even beat up or anything, the box is just opened n thats it

[amber finch]

if you come to my place then i’ll literally shower you with choco breads

[dry python]

Shit say less

[amber finch]

oh also i got new uh “shoes”

they have “triches” on them now

if you go to vn then thats one way to find me

[ancient needle]

These?
Imagine it's choco bread

[amber finch]

what the fork

nah they’re just the stupid ass looking crocs

i’d buy a bread shoe actually

[autumn oxide]

bros asking fot feet pics someone help

[amber finch]

100% would

[autumn oxide]

[amber finch]

wait what

[autumn oxide]

ok vro

[amber finch]

WAIT WHAHETT

[amber finch]

i still have some pride left in me so i couldnt bring myself to get bread shoes and wear them

now someone’s gonna stalk me in vn fr

[dry star]

when PS is the leader and you trigger AR, do you all choose to stay on PS during her AR attack or do you swap to teammate?

[amber finch]

in your case you’d want to deal dmg so just finish her entire sequence

[dry star]

ok!

[misty blade]

is it possible to remove that bar below?

[dry python]

Yes

[dry star]

is total damage just the same thing as phys/elemental dmg, but generic?
or is it a different multiplier?

[dry python]

In settings

[dry python]

Different

[ancient needle]

But Ele DMG is the same as Lightning/Ice/Fire, just all 3 at the same time

[dry star]

ah ok
is total damage more valuable relatively speaking?
for example in superstring, is 50% lightning damage stronger or the 20% total damage on kill up to 8 stacks?

[dry star]

[ancient needle]

If you're talking about weather effects they're independent

They're a separate multiplier essentially

[dry star]

oki
and superstring, we're supposed to do all 4 stages right? even though theres only stage rewards for 3 stages

[ancient needle]

Yes cuz you wanna be better than other players

And other players will clear all 4

[dry star]

ahh I see

[serene crystal]

Unless you are fine with dropping to a lower group, you should do all 4

[dry star]

🫡 I was just confused why the game only gives stage completion rewards up to 3

[dry python]

Actually

It's more like 2.5

Because you only need 15k

[dry star]

yeah

[dry python]

It's so that people with less established accounts can get the 100 xtals easier if they happen to move up to a higher tier too early

Though that doesn't really apply in part 2 anymore

[amber finch]

we still have players who dont know how to press buttons cay

[outer spruce]

to be fair, there's people who think trio is hard to play

[dry star]

does FDD, PAWs, and PS work as a team? not sure if PS or VBM is better in the last slot
assuming there's no weather that buffs anything PS related

[outer spruce]

yes but paws or ps would have to be the leader. FDD dps would be fdd, paws, vbm in your case

[dry star]

oh I see, is it because PS doesnt really buff FDD?

[outer spruce]

fdd is RoO. RoO valks like fdd and vita want 3 RoO valks in the team. Paws is only an exception for FDD dps because paws has a skill that allows her to be a support for FDD

[dry star]

ah I see
so dont trust the astral op 3/3 at the top of the screen? I just assumed as long as I see 3/3 it works

[ancient needle]

The RoO AR type allows you to proc the leader skill with any AR type supps, but FDD and Vita have extra skills that want RoO valks specifically

[rugged compass]

RoO is the outlier in that sense as of rn

[dry star]

ohh okok

[ancient needle]

And HoFi wants HoO HoTr supps specifically

[rugged compass]

HoFi wants HoTr and HoO
Vita and FDD as Teamate said earlier
Okay nvm

[tired maple]

Draconic sky-scorching fury: ultra is bfdd’s best weapon right?

[sweet flax]

her only weapon and yes

[rugged compass]

coralie¹ weapon (do not use)

[north dew]

uh who do i pull i just came back

[spiral badge]

!faq info

[small willow]

Providing Account Information/Context

We need more information to answer that, Captain!

Please show (screenshot where needed):

• Your Battlesuits (Valkyrie > Grid Layout) and Equipment (Equip > Weapon/Stigmata).
• Crystal count, supply tickets, current pity, and expected income.
• To what extent do you care about [meta](#👶beginner-help message)? (Consider that your competitive Abyss performance affects your Crystal income. [More info here!](#👶beginner-help message))

If you are struggling on specific content:

• Show us your team, equipment and gameplay.
• Screenshot the exact problem if you think something is going wrong.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

you don't get that much crystals as a returnee. You probably don't have 40k to pull for a valk and her weapon right now. If that's the case, just save until you have enough. In the meantime you'll use what you already have the best you can without spending rarer resources. Afterwards you'll consider the next new release.

!faq pull

[small willow]

Pulling Priority

Yo, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see the pulling priority for this patch!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

otherwise you can look at this

if you see yourself taking frequent breaks from the game, then you may not need to follow these meta recommendations and just focus more on who you like.

on the other hand if you want to be meta in the game (mainly to get more crystals from abyss), then if your account is old/roster is lacking enough and if you don't have any attachments to the account, you may even consider starting a new one.

[spiral badge]

are you implying to consider VBm's signature weapon?

[rugged compass]

My apologies

Fixed

[spiral badge]

yeah this is beginner help so let's refrain from that sort of thing

[rugged compass]

Sorry 😔

[spiral badge]

https://youtu.be/qA7xl16gOxU?feature=shared&t=354 (for anyone else wondering that would be a ~40% drop. Quite significant)

if you're a fresh player getting FDD and need something to use in the meantime, sure ok. But make sure to get the gacha signature weapon before it goes away.

For any developed/developing player don't pick up a gacha valk unless you have the crystals to pick up their gacha weapon too.

[north dew]

ah

im trying to get hofi's divine key since i have her and hotr and hoo

[spiral badge]

what kind of goals do you have for the game overall?

[north dew]

im not sure if thats still her best team its been like 2 years since i last played

[spiral badge]

because meta wise that's not recommended

it is her best team but her best team use cases have become alot more rare

so your mileage from it overall won't be very much

[north dew]

i got lazy teresa idk how she works

i just pulled a little and got her

[spiral badge]

so you don't have her weapon either?

[north dew]

no

[spiral badge]

in general any valkyrie in this game really wants their signature weapon for meta performance

[north dew]

i know that

[spiral badge]

anyway i'm still waiting for you to answer this

[north dew]

uh

[spiral badge]

everybody wants crystals so usually we default to meta recommendations (but meta isn't necessarily for everyone)

[north dew]

im not sure how fun hi3 still feels to me because i dont have any of the newer mechanics

[spiral badge]

oh in that case then check out attack > events tab > tactics class for tutorials on all the recently released valks

you will be able to try all of them out even if you don't own them

[lyric anvil]

Plus the different AR mechanics

[spiral badge]

!faq ring

[small willow]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

this might be too complicated of an faq for now but if you want to understand astral ring stuff more, that's where to look

the basic idea is that every new valk has a ring type now. The leader ring type determines the team's playstyle

world star > set up marks with some valks, and have other valks pop the marks for damage

wheel of destiny > most of the team's time is on the leader dps

law > the team QTEs alot

grail > the team benefits alot from ults

[lyric anvil]

HoHe DPS might be a little different but she's niche though

[north dew]

i wish i had her divine key

[spiral badge]

also not recommended FYI

[lyric anvil]

HoHe needs Thelema

[spiral badge]

anything already released isn't going to be recommended.

Recommendations are almost always going to be for the next new release

[north dew]

i heard you can get her for free

[spiral badge]

check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins for that

[lyric anvil]

^

[spiral badge]

but remember what we said earlier about valks needing their weapons?

thelema needs her's especially badly. Half her utility and 60% of her damage is from it

and thelema use cases are much less now that we are not going to recommend spending crystals to get it either

[north dew]

so is the dragon coralie good

i cant tell if shes dps or support

[spiral badge]

every new valk can be a dps or a support depending on how they are placed in the team

[outer spruce]

all gacha s ranks are both

[north dew]

oh

damn this have changed a lot huh

[lyric anvil]

The only two that ain't both is VBm and VBs

[sweet flax]

worth noting that vbm is a decent dps option for beginners

[spiral badge]

(it's relative. VBm can be an early game dps if you have nothing better)

[lyric anvil]

True

[spiral badge]

strictly speaking i won't say it's impossible to use VBs as a dps too but obviously this isn't worth mentioning

[lyric anvil]

Can't get her weapon

[sweet flax]

even when you could during 7.8 it wasnt recommended dw

[lyric anvil]

Ah

[prisma oyster]

i have trouble with gathering (??) the enemies in abyss, like my damage are enough but i would lose so much time because i couldn't kill all of the enemies in one go because they all kept getting separated when im rotating

paws fdd vbm btw

[slim blaze]

Classic

[abstract sequoia]

paws pulls enemies with 3 stacks combo, vbm does it with the second ground WA and with her combo, when slamming her hammer with a stack left to burn

[prisma oyster]

its just sometimes when im trying to pull the enemy with paws stacks she will push them away even further from eachother 😭

[abstract sequoia]

oh

[prisma oyster]

ill cope whatever i just do trial error

this however

[abstract sequoia]

i mean its just sidestages right?

just make sure you keep your buffs up on your supports

[prisma oyster]

yeah but sometimes it takes me a couple of times to get a right rotation cuz i would like finish with one enemy 1/3 hp

[prisma oyster]

im still building vbm but none of my paws or fdd are maxxed on weapon

wait no paws is max

[abstract sequoia]

well still matters

[prisma oyster]

im planning to craft her stigs but im kinda confused cuz at the other hand i need to save up for the next stigs

the prism cube

[abstract sequoia]

both coralies have a buff timer you can follow while going ham on paws

thats the icons above your health

[prisma oyster]

vbm stigs btw, should i just get like some of her stigs?

[abstract sequoia]

get her set completely if you already got fdd and paws stigma set

hold off on upgrading it though until you need it

[prisma oyster]

35 is fine?

[abstract sequoia]

yes

as long as you do your MA every week, you'll get at least 1 prism weekly. Many event shops also have them

[prisma oyster]

yeah i have them fullset but would i have enough time to farm prism cube for the new ely is what im worried abt

[abstract sequoia]

depends on how many you got now

[abstract sequoia]

• Forging costs 2 prisms
• 35 -> 40 costs 1 prism
• 40 -> 45 costs 2 prisms
• 45 -> 50 costs 4 prisms
  That's what you should keep in mind

we always get a box to redeem one stigma for free, so you can subtract that already. the rest is up to your luck on weapon banner

since salvaging one stigma dupe gives you 1 prism back

so bad luck actually has a nice side effect for that banner

[prisma oyster]

oh yeah 😭 i didnt have that much trouble with paws cuz i got hard pity on her weap but i was lucky on fdd so it took me awhile to max her out

i got 5 rn

[abstract sequoia]

sounds fairly average

meanwhile I'm swimming in prisms because I'm rarely lucky for the weapon

[prisma oyster]

any priority on vbm stigs? like t,m or b first

[abstract sequoia]

T > B > M. The 3pc effect is the most impactful however so you kinda want all 3

that's the case for all part 2 stigmata

and I'd preferably upgrade them equally. All on 40 first, then you continue upgrading to 45 and 50

in Tsiolkovsky's case, upgrading T first also isn't wrong

mostly for providing more SP for VBm, should you lack it

also T gives you the most atk, B less atk and M none

[abstract sequoia]

@fair aspen define no divine keys. like none at all, only the realms of battle/co-op ones or what exactly do you have

[fair aspen]

Only seven thunders of retribution and not the ones for HoFi or HoHe

[abstract sequoia]

that's still something

aside from that, are your coralie and helia geared?

[fair aspen]

Ye they are but I don’t think I will get anywhere until I actually have a good meta unit

[abstract sequoia]

i mean you did mention having enough for a valk and weapon, fdd couldn't be a better valk to come back to tbh

she is the second breach support for part 2 and probably will be used for a long time because of that. on top of that she has you covered on ignite weathers

one of the status effects that only had part 1 valks so far to fill it with

[abstract sequoia]

as for next patch ||new ely will be the anniversary valk, but despite of anni valks usually being strong, I honestly see less use in her when you start with nothing at all compared to fdd. same feeling goes for the horb dk||

[fair aspen]

I see

[abstract sequoia]

keep in mind, this is just my opinion on things, its not like I'm camping cn beta or anything

[amber finch]

especially sad when || spending valk is thel|| basically no chances for newbies to use it

[abstract sequoia]

yea sadge

more weaponless memes next patch

[amber finch]

no way in hell are they making a cope team with || ely horb cora||

i’d still go for 8.5 tho, not good enough of backdraws for you to think of skipping her

[abstract sequoia]

yea but then what if you skipped fdd?

[fair aspen]

||i feel like getting coralie and waiting for Ely To come back but I heard that coralie will be in the next patch too||

[amber finch]

|| for dkey tho, now that’s questionable for newbies, however its +10 atk so its also a consideration||

[amber finch]

newbies do what newbies are best at, cope

it has always been like that

cope and seethe until they get what they need

[amber finch]

if you really want cora then || i’d wait yeah, even tho you’ll be waiting for like 4 weeks ||

actually they made 8.5 so fucking unfriendly for newbies wtf i just realized that

[fair aspen]

||it’s not that I really want her I’m just asking what is best because I’m not too sure||

[abstract sequoia]

reminder how long vita stayed meta

i see history repeating itself here

breach is huge, especially for coping

[amber finch]

if you want the best route then its just pull for 8.5 and cope until you get an actual team for her || ask again on whether to pull for dkey or not when this channel is more alive with more people for different views and advices, now, IF it was me then i’d get dkey just bc its a dkey, im not telling you to follow me however||

[amber finch]

i mean wasnt it just until badum came out

oh she had a revival arc with ps i forgot

you have a good argument tho

fdd doesnt take up 500 years of field time like vita and she’s literally vita but fire ignite

well not with the shit ton of rings ig

still, best route imo (again, MY opinon, MY view) is just coping

what if they gib free youknowho in 8.6

mega copege

[abstract sequoia]

I'd rather rely on what we know now

[amber finch]

vita despite how versatile + meta relevant she was, still wasnt a must pull

[abstract sequoia]

i heavily disagree

[amber finch]

she was only in the “ehh you can consider it” category

[abstract sequoia]

she was a backpull exception the patch after her debut for a reason

[amber finch]

this convo always happens when hoyo releases a monopoly valk

hotr, horb, vita

[storm lantern]

vita was definitely a must pull if u use that term at all

[amber finch]

oh and sena

i still wouldnt consider fdd tho

[abstract sequoia]

sena also haunted me on any WoD

[amber finch]

it wasnt even that long tbf

[abstract sequoia]

patches weren't that long that's why

[amber finch]

anyways vita’s biggest drawback was just the fact that she’s vita

girl’s know her selfworth so she takes up 500% field time

absolutely diabolical to not give atf for the SO punches btw

actually does she have any atf at all aside from ult and transform

[abstract sequoia]

CA

slows timer at least

[amber finch]

nah i want atf

[abstract sequoia]

then no

[amber finch]

she’d have been thel level of hype if she had more atf ngl

actually she had more hype than thel mb

[abstract sequoia]

vita was the most successful valk though

[amber finch]

bc she’s vita and all, meant to word it as “thel level of appreciation of gameplay”

[amber finch]

too bad she’s fucking dogshit when it comes to time management

she was rlly hyped yeah

[abstract sequoia]

paladin kind of build

[amber finch]

girl’s had an entire fanbase immediately made when she first appeared

oh i accidentally locked dudu to bull

bricked my heimdall run

[abstract sequoia]

badoom works

[amber finch]

look right into my face and tell me to use badum

im cooking with ps bc loa fr

ps fdd paws ig

[abstract sequoia]

fws/fdd/ps

[amber finch]

ram i will literally end you

i dont have badum you ass

i exhausted my funds on dudu bc dudu and decided to get hohe dkey instead

[lapis bear]

its so stupid that beginner and returnee missions force you to play the latest story content, making you get spoiled

and even if you wanted to start them from zero when you catch back up, theres no way to replay them

[quick birch]

beginner manual only forces you to play the first few missions of p2 which arent related to p1

[amber finch]

yeah you wont understand anything

[lapis bear]

returnee is making me play the latest one

[quick birch]

they only start to be connected once you enter chapter 3ex

[amber finch]

all they do is just “hi im coralie” and thats it

[amber finch]

dunno abt returnee, probs assumed that you’ve done everything so they force you to do the latest one

which is a fair assumption

[lapis bear]

not in a game with 8 years of backlogged story content i'd say

[amber finch]

they cant cater to everybody’s needs after all (they couldve just not give that mission but its hoyo)

[amber finch]

im not a developer so complaining to me wont really do anything

you can always ask cs on why they decided to do it #how-to-contact-cs

im just a random person with way too much time on his hands

[abstract sequoia]

would you mind making a screenshot of that screen? would like to confirm whether it's a necessary mission or only a suggestion

[lapis bear]

when i am back home in a bit

will ping you

[abstract sequoia]

to be fair, you can get those tokens from pretty much any other mission too. the crystals and prisms shown in the thumbnails would be available to you anyway. the only limited thing would be the thelema outfit in the Summer Friendship Resort event which won't be available anymore once the patch is over (this event is permanent however, just the event shop isn't)

[unreal crest]

I have thelema, senadina, miss Pink elf, dea anchora, fenghuang of Vicissitude and silverwing: n-ex. Is my acc cooked?

[upbeat egret]

Meta wise yes

The only 2 valk u can barely use are thelema and sena

[unreal crest]

Why barely

[upbeat egret]

We don't use them much...they are almost dead

We use them once per patch

[unreal crest]

Who is top tier rn

[jolly pulsar]

whats the latest valkyrie to be released

thats usually the answer to your question

[upbeat egret]

There is no top tier..
New valk = strong

[jolly pulsar]

me remembering potential man

[unreal crest]

So coralie is strongest rn?

[jolly pulsar]

i wouldnt say strongest, since she's more of a support valkyrie (to my understanding?), but she's definitely the best thing to invest in
New coralie not old one btw

[unreal crest]

I really like thelema tho

[jolly pulsar]

I know what you are

In all seriousness we do not stop you from getting who you want, but if you want one specific character, you need to know everything that entails

[unreal crest]

I got her from returnee

Banner

I have 4 acc

[unreal crest]

Is this acc bad?

[thick bolt]

Depends on your criteria. Any account works if you're just playing for fun.
From meta perspective it is bad since,

1. low level stuff so I'm assuming you didn't play through till getting the most of the starter event
2. only notable valk here is teri and regardless of whether she's geared or not it's gonna be quite gimped since she's rarely used as is

unless you're attached I'd suggest a new account regardless of what your goal is cause of the starter event.

[unreal crest]

Wait

[shut stratus]

Where do you change character in 2.0 lobby (in menu), in 1.0 it was via 💭 menu, but in 2.0 I can't find it.

[thick bolt]

!faq bridgevalk

[small willow]

How to change Valkyrie on the bridge?

For Part 2 Bridge:
Change the player character on the bridge maps of part 2 open world chapters (left side of the image).
-# Part 1 Valkyries that have gained Stellar Keys are not available in the open world.

For Part 1 Bridge:
Click on the speech bubble till it turns white, another click will bring up the affection meter from where you can choose the swap option (right side of the image).

[thick bolt]

Need to be in Oxia or Hyperion 11 since those are currently the "bridge" maps

[thick bolt]

whats the crystal count looking like for that account?

cause there's nothing I would call notable though the || HoRb divine key || next patch can help you if you have the crystals for 8.5 valk ready

[unreal crest]

I have nothing

[thick bolt]

and I assume starter event isn't active

[unreal crest]

Because that acc is like two years old

[thick bolt]

yeah this one is also a bust from gameplay perspective

Do note though, all accounts are recoverable, crystals just take a little longer to accumulate as compared to new ones, so the difference is like a couple months

[unreal crest]

I didnt even notice i had HoRb

[unreal crest]

Sometimes i feel like its impossible to get single pull in a Day in this game

[thick bolt]

current patch income for agony 3

[unreal crest]

Whats agony

[thick bolt]

Tier in abyss

[unreal crest]

So i can get 21k Just from doing abyss?

[thick bolt]

below 21k cause your account does not reach agony 3 levels I think

but should be around ~20k

[unreal crest]

And is there anyone i can play HoRb with as a support or should i got with her being dps

[unreal crest]

How Long does it take to get that

My acc is lvl 80 btw

[thick bolt]

9 weeks (patch duration) barring any one time crystal income from story or elysian realm left

[sweet flax]

||next patch technically||

[unreal crest]

I only like shallow sequence in elysian realm

Other stuff takes too long

[thick bolt]

Deep sequence is 500 per week

and there's lite now for faster clear

[unreal crest]

Is this bad?

[edgy ridge]

Would I wanna get Jade knight for HoHe from the war treasury or wait and get her from the starter's manual?

[outer spruce]

starter manual. it would take you a while to get her from war treasury

[edgy ridge]

I already have the stuff to get her from the treasury

should I still just get her from the starter manual?

[outer spruce]

i would personally get her from starter manual and use the aw and al that you would use on her for other valks for use in Elysian Realm

[outer spruce]

yeah, those teams are extremely outdated

[unreal crest]

Atp ill Just reroll acc on next updatr

[outer spruce]

I'd do it now or whenever you have time so you'll have more time to earn more crystals for what you want to pull for

story is a big source of crystals

as well as the 620 crystals from unlocking valks for Elysian Realm on top of the 500 crystals from deep sequence each week

along side starter manual

[unreal crest]

Story is overwhelming

[outer spruce]

story is one of the biggest sources of crystals for a new account

[unreal crest]

And this game has too much stories

[outer spruce]

Just go at your own pace, don't rush through it. it will feel like a job if you do that

[unreal crest]

Is vita still Good?

I have her on NA acc

[outer spruce]

yeah vita is still used

dragon coralie is her direct replacement though

can be used in the same team

for either coralie dps or vita dps

[unreal crest]

I still use aponia, she has sig weapon

Vita has her triple stigmata

But i dont have her weapon

[outer spruce]

having all 3 stigmata is a given, they're craftable

vita can't really be a good dps without her weapon but she can still support

[unreal crest]

I forgot

[outer spruce]

aponia also isn't really that good nowadays

[unreal crest]

I have 25 quests to do

[amber swift]

how do i make the hay not burn when i move it to the top?

[outer spruce]

jump up and extinguish the fire

[amber swift]

oph i didnt realize i could jump that

[vital hearth]

what weapon should i max next?

[quick birch]

really depends on who you use the most and what you're pulling next version || because we'll get a valk + weapon and a dkey, therefore if you pull both you want the mats to level both||

generally i'd say focus on new gear first and only level them if you really have excess mats

[slim blaze]

Also ||costume|| cant forget that!!!

[slim blaze]

Ngl How will new players get her tho..afaik no banner for her yet ||dkey|| exist

No way they give her for free

[shadow gyro]

bchip scam like hoh during 8.1 ig...
otherwise they're have to wait for her to be in reserve shop
not worth it tbh

[shell basin]

Was HoHe avail for chips in 8.1?

Other than level rush I mean

[shadow gyro]

yeah there was a scam box with her

and mmg and hoo iirc

[lyric anvil]

She was free in 7.9 I missed out on that due to potato phone

[shell basin]

How scam are we talking? If it’s 5 bucks I could talk about whaling for Horb but if it’s 25 there’s no way

[shadow gyro]

let me see if i can find that hoh box
no guarantee that hoyo would put horb in a box soon tho

[lyric anvil]

Nor reserve

[amber finch]

it wasnt 5 i can guarantee that

iirc it was in the 20-30 range??

[shell basin]

Alas. I think at 10 I would go for it but 20 is more than I’m willing to shell out for horb

[lyric anvil]

I got mine from discounted starter multi

[shadow gyro]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message thats the bchip box that got hoh

[thick bolt]

bchip box always been scam

[quick birch]

||that specific player already has her, hence why i'd assume pulling her dkey is a fair consideration||

[shadow gyro]

||tbh i read berwinator's message as what should beginners do in general||

[shell basin]

Yeah 25 bucks for horb is a pass, hopefully if they do it they come up with a better method. Anyway ty for digging that up

[amber finch]

1.6k porkchops too much hobo smh

[warped geyser]

does monthly card let u claim 500 xtals twice if u log in all 30 days? or is it only for the first 15

[shadow gyro]

and they slapped whatever with hohe to make it look interesting

[amber finch]

twice

[warped geyser]

lessgo

[analog root]

if i want to finalize early in elysian realm, would i be unable to get rewards for higher scores if i start another round before the next reset?

[warped geyser]

not at all

i'm struggling to understand what u mean tho

[wintry wharf]

someone know how to reach this screen in game ?

can't find it

[warped geyser]

in elysium everlasting story mode

[analog root]

sorry if my wording is a bit confusing, but i saw this message and wasn't quite sure if granting the rewards now would mean i cant claim crystals from higher tiers

[wintry wharf]

what

[warped geyser]

no you can definitely still get them from er

as long as u clear it on the higher levels before monday reset u can claim them before next week

[warped geyser]

the audio thing

[analog root]

alright thanks a lot

[warped geyser]

no

np**

[dry python]

the fuck are you saying

[wintry wharf]

oh this was tradey recording

btw is this one ?

i may have to redownload it

[warped geyser]

yes

[wintry wharf]

k k thx

[warped geyser]

check honkai chat

[slim blaze]

Lmao

[warped geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-the-batman-does-he-know-he-knows-gif-26835334

[bitter sapphire]

how is coralie without her signature weapon

dragon coralie

[quick birch]

her dps suffers by around 40% so you won't really be able to use that part of her value, additionally as a support you'll loose about 10%-15% of team dmg so even though the difference isnt as significant as for her dps it's still notable. Generally i wouldn't recommend to get a valk without their weapon, we also encourage to pull a valk as close to the beginning of the patch to experience her full shill.

[misty blade]

is it normal that the starter guide wants me to clear part 2 ch1 after clearing ch3 of the first part ??

[quick birch]

yes, p2 story is completely separate from p1 story up until chapter 3 and they'll start to connect in chapter 3ex, you'll also get valkyrie balstmetal and her signature weapon through that which will both be very usefull

[misty blade]

okok thanks

[bitter sapphire]

i see, thank you for answering

could you also tell me a bit about her team synergies?

[quick birch]

as a support she can support
RoO
LoA
Goi
as a dps she either wants 2 RoO units or 1 RoO unit + paws

if you aren't familiar with the abbreviations check the glossary in the pins

[merry kraken]

can anyone help me wth this code

19609647EU

[thick bolt]

#invite-links-here

[bitter sapphire]

Ah alright, thanks for answering again

[tranquil hare]

Wrong chat sorry

[lapis bear]

when does ruins reset?

[modest pagoda]

why do people use turgenev?

[amber finch]

good p1 cope elemental support stig

[modest pagoda]

i see, would u recommend it for hoo even if i have 2 of her set or should i try to get it?

[amber finch]

hoo is a dps

[modest pagoda]

wait not hoo

[amber finch]

also if you have 2 sets then why bother with turg

[modest pagoda]

i saw people using it for dp on husk

[amber finch]

oh that

[amber finch]

its a strat yeah, do you have what it takes for that to actually work tho

[modest pagoda]

what do i need specifically

[amber finch]

hoo ranks

and uh some hands

[modest pagoda]

hands?

[amber finch]

skillz ma fwend

[modest pagoda]

oh i dont have hoo rank

[amber finch]

nvm you’re fucked

you can still do it but dont expect yourself to score as high or even close to the scores you see

[modest pagoda]

i see i see

[amber finch]

every monday

[lapis bear]

thanks

[mortal breach]

which weapon is the most worth it? i like pardo, but i was thinking to buy the level rush for the gems and the free elysia anyway, should i get that weapon? or pardo weapon is just more worth?

[mortal breach]

gotcha ty

[lyric anvil]

[pliant ferry]

Does this still apply?

[quick birch]

yeah you should still be able to get both

[bleak cloak]

Hey is it possible to get herrsher of rebirth anyway right now?

[dry python]

wow no update smh lyo update ples

[bleak cloak]

Would yall say vita is not worth getting

I have hohe and Thelma, no weopons but I’m closer then not

[odd plume]

not worth unless you whale

[bleak cloak]

Whale on who

Hohe

[odd plume]

just a whale in general

[bleak cloak]

Fuhhh

What’s the difference between vita and the red head yoyo

[quick birch]

not currently no

[quick birch]

different battlesuit so they both have different niches, senadina is a stardust Worldstar DPS and mainly a WoD support, while vita is a lightning mech RoO DPS and can support RoO/WS/WoD/LoA, at S0 she's best in WS and RoO in niche situations also BiS for a LoA or WoD dps

this probably won't give you a lot of info i'd guess unless you're familiar with the in game ring types

[odd plume]

vita is RoO, sena is WS, different in dps role
sena does have some similar support role as vita but vita is better in most case

[lyric anvil]

Was BiS for LoA

[bleak cloak]

I was asking for the hohe thelma and vita/senadina team, and the new elysia, badum team, I was also curious if coralie could be sub out for someone else

[quick birch]

please spoiler any info about a new || elysia battlesuit || since that is still CN info, the main difference in the HoHe team is that senadina doesnt really need to be on field to activate her buffs while vita does.|| as for the new Elysia team do you had a third teammate in mind ? ideally you would want fdd since she's the GoI breach support||

[bleak cloak]

Oh my b, I was asking about a sub cause I don’t really like her design

The demon coralie or idk if that’s fdd

[quick birch]

though note that pursuing the HoHe team isnt really recommended at this point if you're meta orientated

[quick birch]

that's her yes

[bleak cloak]

Duly noted, lowkey think ima go mostly for asethics

[bleak cloak]

Would you recommend any other characters

[quick birch]

being more casual is also totally an option just be aware that this game's endgame is competetive and the higher your rank the higher your crystal income

though with 1-2 decent teams you should be able to retain a decent rank

[quick birch]

|| any other symbioses char will work so, Hohe + dkey/ps/rs,|| if you're unfamiliar with the abbreviations check the glossary in the pins

[bleak cloak]

Thank you, also how value is hof, her skin is tough I might pull

[quick birch]

i assume you mean Finality ? if yes we use HoFi since HoF can mean Flamescion or Finality. You won't really be able to utilise her properly tbh, as a dps she really wants to be played in trio, and as a support she's really limited to RoO and WS which both have a niche DPS usage

also note that HoFi is currently only obtainable in reserve work which takes ~1 year as a f2p

[bleak cloak]

What the helly

🤣 that’s crazy, I see tho

Thank you for the info

[quick birch]

np if you come across any questions feel free to ask here

[bleak cloak]

Will do

Hey were is the glossary located?

[quick birch]

at the top of the Wall of guides in the pins

[frozen crypt]

bruuuuuuuuuuu

where even are we

[quick birch]

week 3

wait actually

kinda week 4

yeah week 4

[lyric anvil]

Start of week 4

[slim blaze]

That delightful feeling where someone uses your invite code

No need to salt one account

[odd plume]

just spam your code in ingame chat, easy crystal

[slim blaze]

Wew

[maiden garden]

Hi i'm about to start playing, i would appreciate any advices or tips u guys can give me, i'm new in hoyoverse games i play genshin and honkai star rail

[lone crater]

read pins dont pull starter pull new valks while u can guarantee weap

[slim blaze]

Weapons mandatory

[maiden garden]

Thnx i was looking to save currency all i can like i do in GI or HSR

[shell basin]

In theory on average there is enough currency that a dedicated f2p player can get every new release + their weapon but in practice there’s a good chance you’ll end up having to hard pity someone too many times in a row and end up needing to skip someone

Or you’ll end up pulling for non meta reasons like wanting an outfit

Unlike most gacha games tho you mostly don’t need multiple copies of a given character or their gear and horizontal investment is typically preferred over vertical

[storm lantern]

if you want to be very competitive it's rare that you want more vertical than sss astralop, if you just want to be slightly competitive you don't need astralops at all

[dry python]

Bro left

[lyric anvil]

[storm lantern]

guess they really didn't like the tutorial

[abstract sequoia]

can't blame them, tutorial bad

[storm lantern]

true

[abstract sequoia]

can i swipe for it's rework?

[storm lantern]

lmao

[sweet flax]

million dollar idea, tutorial for swiping

[low estuary]

can dragon coralie support ws?

[storm lantern]

she's roo so kind of, doesn't have the ws support tag though

[sweet flax]

she can count towards a ws dps' leader skill and apply her buffs, but she cant support the ring since she doesnt have the domain resonance tag

[ancient needle]

Essentially she can provide generic buffs, but can't proc resos

Worth using only if you have no Domain Reso valks left

[silver patio]

Is thelema any good

[sweet flax]

only use these days is with hohe in ice weathers which are not as frequent, not as useful outside of that or ss ma

[silver patio]

Damn

I wanted her

[wintry wharf]

she still have raven boss in abyss

[silver patio]

Oh nah

Dont roast me

What abt songque and senadina?

[ancient needle]

Songque DPS is not a thing atp, but as a LoA support she has a couple of uses
Sena DPS has only 1 boss left, and Sena support is used only in WoD comps ||(she might get booted from them in 8.5 though)||

[quick birch]

Senadina is only really used as a WoD support and has 1 weather as a DPS which can be brute forced by badum. Songque is mainly used in LoA comps these days especially when you're fighting SD enemies because she can trigger the critical value instantly|| though if you pull 8.5 she'll have the same ability and you can probably do fine with bruteforcing on most of Songque's use cases with her ||

[ancient needle]

Essentially they aren't worth getting atp

[silver patio]

Coralie (fdd) being the only good character in my loadout

[quick birch]

You'll get more over time that's how the game works

[silver patio]

Songque non uhm astral ring form is gut for me but her yellow form…

[whole bloom]

Is there any way to get horb?

[quick birch]

currently not no

[misty blade]

if i were to link my google account to an hoyoverse mail that is already used in another account what would happen?

[sweet flax]

depends if the google account is already tied to another hoyoverse account or not, if it is, it will deny you from doing it

[misty blade]

i see thanks

[amber finch]

why a tutorial when you can just buy everything

[slim blaze]

So

Fws fdd hohe?

[quick birch]

probably, maybe also give sparkle a try instead of Hohe she was better in nirb last time iirc

[slim blaze]

No habibi

[quick birch]

i've also seen some cooking with fdd dps couldnt test yet myself though

[fair aspen]

||guys should i pull coralie or wait for Elysia because I literally can’t wait and I need a new Valkyrie since all of mine are out of date||

[abstract sequoia]

how many crystals?

[fair aspen]

Not much

[abstract sequoia]

how much is not much

[fair aspen]

I’m at 13 pity

4500 crystals

[abstract sequoia]

and the weapon?

[fair aspen]

51 pity

[abstract sequoia]

okay don't pull her yet then. try farming everything you can that's mentioned in the Crystal Sources pin on the wall of guides

if you don't hit enough for hard pity, just save for next patch

[fair aspen]

But what would you say is the better option for Elysian realm

Or abyss

[abstract sequoia]

any valk can clear finality in ER nowadays

and my advice is usually abyss and ma meta oriented unless you specify otherwise

either way, it's not good pulling practice to get the valk before you can afford the weapon

[fair aspen]

||actually I have a good Ice unit so I may not need Elysia I can get her another time but I need a good fire unit||

[abstract sequoia]

which ice unit

[fair aspen]

Herrscher of human ego

[primal heron]

dkey or no dkey?

[abstract sequoia]

well ||HoH will support new Ely||

so yea

[fair aspen]

Oh

[abstract sequoia]

but i see the argument, ||new ely won't support WoD so there will be ice bosses that cant use new ely||

unless she completely overtakes those

[fair aspen]

But since I need a fire unit i think I should get coralie

[abstract sequoia]

but she won't be useful long-term and especially not as a dps if you don't get her weapon

best you do the math for now, crystal sources and a calculator for daily/weekly gains are in the pins. feel free to say if you can get enough or ask what else there is

[fair aspen]

Ok

[abstract sequoia]

praying for you

[fair aspen]

Thank you

[amber finch]

you need her new dkey for that btw

no it isnt the weapon named key of smt

just because a weapon is named key doesnt make it a dkey

[quick birch]

||New Ely has HSS||

[abstract sequoia]

okay nvm, look at what Mango typed

but that honestly just means next patch is even better for you

[amber finch]

whats that

[abstract sequoia]

||Harmonized Shadow Star||

[amber finch]

it just reminds me of battleship names for some reason

[amber finch]

thx bam

[abstract sequoia]

np khes

[quick birch]

Though I haven't informed myself enough on how good she is in it

Ainoway msgs sent 3 years too late

I blame the train

[abstract sequoia]

DB needs the axe

eh, actually that's more of a internet provider issue

[amber finch]

just incase you dont know abt the weap that hohe needs

btw if you dont have it then dont try to go out of your way to pull for it (atleast not before you ask around here first)

[gaunt oak]

for FDD ER, is AR better or no AR?

[abstract sequoia]

no AR is better, both are good tho

no AR has the ult finisher, AR is dragon breath simulator

[hearty sequoia]

is the new dragon girl in the current banner decent without her weapon? i have everything else but her main weapon

[shell basin]

Not really. You can give her mini coralie’s weapon and get some use in low ranked abyss but it’s a big downgrade

Typically it’s a bad idea to pull any Valkyrie and not their weapon

[hearty sequoia]

ah alrr

[sick river]

Chat should i breakthrough?? (Sorry if this isnt the right chat)

I started during PAWS banner and been sitting on lvl 80 for a couple weeks, only FDD, Vita and HoHe have their weapons (no Dkey for hohe tho)

[serene crystal]

You have two useable teams so I would say yes. FDD, LP, VBm; LP, FDD, VBm
Retaining Agony 3 shouldn't be an issue.

#👶beginner-help message

[sick river]

Thank youu

[wintry wharf]

is recommended to pull chen SS for a player with no astral ops other than ds ?

[abstract sequoia]

are we talking about a person who wants nirvana? if so, you gotta start somewhere i guess

[wintry wharf]

ye like shes not bad at all with SS right ?

[abstract sequoia]

definitely not

i've been doing some tank runs with fdd because i got nothing elseand the missing AR cd refund can be worked around with by rotation adjustments

pretty sure that's the case for other bosses too, runs will look different and SSS will have an edge still but SS looks fairly good

as for trio, not having SSS is a bit more annoying

at least from my experience, best someone else also shares theirs

[marsh yew]

How can i farm XP fast

[slim blaze]

#👶beginner-help message

Tldr just use stamina

If your stamina is low, ur on the right track

[marsh yew]

ok

[frosty kernel]

bruh yeah i am cooked the first stage i did no damage. I wonder if i am leveling too fast.. i just do dailies..

[shell basin]

What team are you using?

[frosty kernel]

you know the usual coralie team f2p team

[shell basin]

FDD VBM VBS?

[frosty kernel]

ye

[quick birch]

as long as you level your valks + important gear you should be fine, though Masters Redlotus can be quite demanding from time to time tbh. You should still be able to clear the floors though

[frosty kernel]

i mean i can clear it for few stages but i dont think i can reach let alone 10

[shell basin]

Have you been following the rot listed? I would guess the reason you are struggling is probably because you’re messing up the rotation but it’s hard to be sure without seeing a video

And if your Valkyries aren’t cap level or max skilled / your gear isn’t upgraded that’s also possible culprit

[frosty kernel]

i been only focusing leveling up my fdd, should i start focusing building the others too?

i mean the last one i can barely made it, you know before lvl 70

[shell basin]

You should prioritize FDD but if you have spare mats you can use them on VBM

VBS isn’t on the field so you can ignore her

Does FDD have her weapon and signature stigmatas?

[frosty kernel]

ofc

still isnt max out tho, only one still lvl 45

[frosty kernel]

huh i thought vbm was the one

[amber finch]

vbm is A coralie, you need her to go onfield to apply the buffs

[frosty kernel]

i mean somoene suggested the run just use vbs and fdd on field

[amber finch]

vbs is A helia

her being onfield is a waste of time

[outer spruce]

vbm is your main buffer

you want her buffs active

[amber finch]

i think that someone didnt know how to use the team or you’re thinking that vbs is coralie

[frosty kernel]

ohh nvm yeah i mix that up

omg does that mean i been playing it wrong? lmao

[amber finch]

well try again with vbm actually being on the field and applying buffs

[shell basin]

You should be going out to Mini Coralie to keep her buffs up whenever they’re about to run out

[frosty kernel]

i mean vbs ult is a good buff dmg from my exp

[shell basin]

And then swapping back to fFD Adam

[amber finch]

oh btw when your coralie buff are at 3 stacks, you can just switch her in and do one wa and it’ll refresh the entire 3 stacks

[amber finch]

and you need 50 years to set it up

[frosty kernel]

hmm gotchaa

[shell basin]

If her ult is ready and she’s SS you can use it but it takes so much time to set up

[amber finch]

she is just a time waster even when she was first released

[frosty kernel]

yup yup i hate it lol

[shell basin]

It costs you more than you get

[amber finch]

coralie is just wa and out (if your 3 stacks are already up)

[frosty kernel]

ah i see, thanks for the advice guys wow i been playing it wrong huh

[shell basin]

Uh. Jump attack WA

You want serious hammering

[amber finch]

oh yeah

this is what happens when you havent used her since 7.4

[shell basin]

<#💁gameplay-help message>

[frosty kernel]

btw is this good on her? or i should just put this on vbs? and if thats the case what stig should i replace her with?

[shell basin]

It’s fine. You want Fua Musician if you have it instead but this is okay cope

[frosty kernel]

i do have fu hua one i think

[amber finch]

use gluttony T and fuhua musician MB instead

[shell basin]

Then 2 pc Fu Hua 1 pc Theresa or ogier

Is better

[quick birch]

put that one on Vbs since the supportive capabilities are purely passive on that set

[amber finch]

glut is cheap to craft and fhm is available in the starter shop

actually not free, bad wording

[quick birch]

Ogier T should be better here Vbm isnt on field frequently enough to maintain glut buffs

[shell basin]

Yeah

[frosty kernel]

ogier t huh

[shell basin]

And then fu hua musician MB

[amber finch]

tru

[frosty kernel]

this right?

[quick birch]

yeah

[amber finch]

ye

wait do you have hohe dkey

[shell basin]

Yep. You can also upgrade the ogier one if you have mats

[amber finch]

or is that just you opening the free stig box

[frosty kernel]

i will get it next time it had the rerun xD but yeah it just there for hohe for the time being, i dont have any good options since i still use her for my second team

[quick birch]

yeah than continue to use fdd vbs vbm

for the rotation check pins there's a written guide + video demonstration there

[amber finch]

maybe dont try to go out of your way to get hohe dkey unless you’re a simp

always ask before you pull tho

very important

[frosty kernel]

i am the latter so yeah

but if i had the spare crystals that is

[amber finch]

pull for 8.5 instead if its just || ely||that you like

[frosty kernel]

i am focusing on getting the 8.5 one

[amber finch]

nice

[frosty kernel]

yup

btw should i upgrade coralie wep?

[amber finch]

which one

[shell basin]

FDD yes, VBM if you have spare Honkai shards

[amber finch]

if its fdd then yeah go ahead, if its A coralie then i wouldnt unless you have alot of spare mats

[shell basin]

But if you don’t it’s much lower priority

[frosty kernel]

ok dont then

what about her skills tho?

[amber finch]

if you have alot of coins to spare then you can just level them all up without looking at the skills, if your situation is tougher then prioritize the support related skills and ignore dmg/healing/defense ones

[frosty kernel]

gotcha

[sweet flax]

what's best non-lantern team for abyss rn, still fws hohe and ig fdd over lp now or?

[ancient needle]

Should be FDD

[lyric anvil]

FDD

[ancient needle]

Badum ain't as good vs single enemies

[sweet flax]

oh the weakpoint bonus aint that beneficial?

[ancient needle]

Well, keep in mind that HoHE is a subpar support in WoD and LoA in general

[sweet flax]

that goes without saying

[lyric anvil]

NA T1 Myriad also is 12S+9 FDD, LP, PAWS, and Chenxue

[sweet flax]

if only my lantern had weapon

[ancient needle]

So even if the weakpoint is hella strong the practical benefit isn't as big

[sweet flax]

ic

what score to expect from fdd lp hofi

[ancient needle]

No PAWS? Tough
Depends on your AOs

[sweet flax]

s chen

idk if s teri or 3* kiaelf will be better

[ancient needle]

Definitely not Teri

Probably not Kia either

[sweet flax]

roo bonus on her was just lightning bonuses right? (on teri)

[lyric anvil]

Better DMG I believe with 3 star kiaelf but the initial ARI

[ancient needle]

iirc there were some generic ones too

Chen is 100% better though

[sweet flax]

ye

[ancient needle]

Like 750 then probably?

[sweet flax]

ok seems about right, I did a shit run and got 730

will try tomorrow

[sweet flax]

hmmm, idk if damage outside so is gonna be enough for p1

since its gonna have to be a 1 so run

[ancient needle]

You can always do a double SO run

[lyric anvil]

Probably not

[sweet flax]

enough ari gen?

[ancient needle]

iirc it was better for me too

[sweet flax]

on kiaelf

[ancient needle]

Kia no

[sweet flax]

ye that's why I was saying 1 so

I do 2 so with chen

[lyric anvil]

Boss not paper enough for 1 SO

[sweet flax]

ye kiaelf is cooked then

[quick birch]

She would've lost to Chen anyway iirc

Especially 3*

[sweet flax]

is lantern still BiS

[ancient needle]

Rank-dependent it looks like

But if we're talking S0 and RL Lantern was best for me

[sweet flax]

how would weaponless lantern do

[ancient needle]

🧱

[lyric anvil]

772 is the current max I could do though I have PAWS
FDD dps

[sweet flax]

I should've skipped fdd

[outer spruce]

this is mine

[lyric anvil]

I must be doing something wrong

[ancient needle]

You're close to matching the score with fucking VBm, so not necessarily

[lyric anvil]

[ancient needle]

While lacking a shit ton of acc-wide stats

[lyric anvil]

Scuffed

[quick birch]

At the beginning of p2 you're doing quite a lot of sequences without max cora buffs, you can use cora WAs while the tank isn't targetable, same goes for your opener try to stack 3 cora buffs it doesn't really cost you anything and it's simply just more DMG

[ancient needle]

You can do WA x2 before the boss spawns -> jump + BA + WA

Also I don't think doing basics before the finisher is worth

[lyric anvil]

In P1?

[ancient needle]

Ye

[quick birch]

Yeah you're loosing Ari

[ancient needle]

Same in transition

Gotta lower your graphics if you haven't alr btw

FPS can affect stuff a lot

[amber finch]

erm gimme ref plz

[ancient needle]

Come on lah, FDD is braindead

Also SEA dist is higher

[quick birch]

Gotta include sea tax into your score as well you won't score 780

[ancient needle]

780 is Lantern DS score iirc

[amber finch]

me lazi

[amber finch]

grrrr

[amber finch]

yea around dat

[sweet flax]

press ult a couple of times and you will score

[amber finch]

no wey

do i have to farm ari with the team btw

im assuming that its a 2 so run

[sweet flax]

ye

[ancient needle]

Yes

[ancient needle]

If you meant evasions, then not much

Can't really afford to do them

[amber finch]

true

[quick birch]

Omg this reminds me that I wanted to try some runs where I Eva bald with fws cope team

Thanks ches

[ancient needle]

It was nice knowing ya

[quick birch]

Gotta abuse 2 Ari on Eva yk

[amber finch]

no bolbme

[amber finch]

teammate ik that this question is redundant already but

||hotr or hohe stamps||

[ancient needle]

Do you even have trio