👶beginner-help

[shadow gyro]

its alr! definitely take a peek at fws's tactic class as well as references, you can also record here to get advice

[sour valve]

something about power creep being crazy in this game?

[shadow gyro]

at this point i recommend that you keep saving for new characters

[autumn oxide]

my jds has more atk and 2/6 of her affixes are cdm

[abstract sequoia]

it's more about limited crystals

[autumn oxide]

[sour valve]

doing that rn

[sour valve]

oh true

I think I still have an absolute ton of story stuff to clear lol

[amber finch]

some important rules to remember:

1. ALWAYS ask before you pull even if you think that you understand a decent bit of the game’s meta
2. never pull for valks past their release dates (there has been very few exceptions in this game’s history and all of them were very controversial)

[abstract sequoia]

you will not have enough to pull new valks if you keep backpulling stuff

[autumn oxide]

my sss cora has more atk

[abstract sequoia]

always stuck in the past

[sour valve]

alright

[amber finch]

its not crazy btw, all you do in this game is just save and pull and skip sometimes, having just one actually geared team is enough to keep you floating

ofc its better to have mor relevant valks

[abstract sequoia]

never moving forward unless you get stupidly lucky or skip weapon which you really shouldn't

[amber finch]

because hoyo mega shills them on their debut patches

[sour valve]

I hope the character I’m saving for is gonna be good lol. I would ask about them but idk if they’re considered leaks or not

[abstract sequoia]

i think i know who you mean

[amber finch]

if you’re talking abt next patch then she’s good to pull for

[storm lantern]

powercreep is honestly fairly tame, it just actually matters

[sour valve]

I think it’s past next patch

[abstract sequoia]

whats your crystal count?

[amber finch]

and you can chat about her since she’s officially announced (not her kit, dunno if they released it yet)

[abstract sequoia]

and current pity?

[amber finch]

yeah we dont know anything about that, work for hoyo for more info, all current infos are just speculations

[storm lantern]

for example lantern still has fire tank despite her being way older than badum

[sour valve]

I think like 1.9k or smth. I’ll have to check in a few. 36 summons until 5*

[abstract sequoia]

glb beta gives green light for the kit tbh

[amber finch]

already got contested before so

[sour valve]

I see

[amber finch]

best bet is to just stick to official announcements

[sour valve]

I’ve seen one image of them but idk if it was a leaked image or from some trailer lol

[abstract sequoia]

hmm, and the wep?

[sour valve]

Probably no pity, but I’ll check in a few

[abstract sequoia]

cn footage most likely

[sour valve]

Gotta speedrun some other game dailies quick to make sure I don’t forget them lol

[abstract sequoia]

we do have a channel for that stuff here #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[shadow gyro]

if its not in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion then definitely avoid it

[amber finch]

inb4 8.5 8.6 8.7 new trio

[sour valve]

uh lemme check that

[amber finch]

a kewl 200k xtals

[sour valve]

there’s a mention of her but not confirmed it’ll be her in whatever versions

[amber finch]

because there’s nothing for us to confirm

[abstract sequoia]

definitely avoid talking about it then unless you see it in the cn oriented channel

[shadow gyro]

8.4 is confirmed anything beyond Isnt

[amber finch]

all we have is a random model from a random part || of new story ||

[sour valve]

oh okay

I’ll just hope she’s good then lol

Not like I’m really pulling for meta anyways

[abstract sequoia]

honestly me too

[amber finch]

if you somehow watched marisa’s vid saying smt like || “OHMYGOSH SHES 99.99999% THE 8.5 VALK” || then its just clickbait

[abstract sequoia]

another similar valk was honestly kind of a bust meta-wise

[shadow gyro]

wait for the third week of the next patch if ur curious about 8.5 valk

[abstract sequoia]

ill leave it on that

[sour valve]

I know nothing about them besides who they are and I don’t even remember what version they were supposedly gonna be in lol

[abstract sequoia]

you know as much as most know really

[sour valve]

oh

[shadow gyro]

its alright, you can always check hi3's official socials or check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion for news
rn there's nothing much to say

also keep in mind that the community also likes to speculate so take that with a grain of salt

[sour valve]

welp back to speedrunning dailies before I work more on Ely

[shadow gyro]

have fun!

[sour valve]

Ty!

Oh I should craft that sparkle weapon skin (pri arm thingy?) too

or should I not do that lol

[shadow gyro]

do it

[woeful reef]

Hello is there skip button in game ?

[shadow gyro]

in the story yes
in some daily tasks there's lite

[sour valve]

I wonder if (badum) Kiana has one too

[shadow gyro]

yes

[woeful reef]

Oh okay

[shadow gyro]

all new characters do and u want to priarm it

[sour valve]

[shadow gyro]

i mean honestly most characters do have priarms but for you just focus on the characters that you use for endgame (aka the part 2 characters)

[sour valve]

Ty

[shadow gyro]

[abstract sequoia]

always forge the pri-arm, consider holding off on upgrading the pri-arm further for when their DPS bosses roll around and you need the dmg

so you preserve torus and metal for where you really need it

[sour valve]

alright

I'm so tempted to spend my BP Currency stuff on Ely's weapon or stamps and idk why

[abstract sequoia]

please do not, old wep is not worth it

even if it was, you know you don't have her p1 supports

[sour valve]

would the stamps be worth it

[grizzled raven]

who cooked me

[dry python]

Good ches take?

[shadow gyro]

not really, the dkeys in the shop (excluding judah and sakura since you can get it a diff way) have a higher priority

hohe does have stamps in the supply shop and witch orb (s rank one) if you wanna get the stamps but you're not really in a rush to get them

for the ones in the supply shop i would only consider them as you're pulling for something that you need and you don't need anything else from the shop

[sour valve]

I see.

[wraith brook]

I remember about u talk amount WT

[prisma oyster]

i guess i was lucky last week since the weather is lightning

this is in masters rl

1 hour left idk if i can do it i might just derank to agony

[ancient needle]

What team are you using?

[prisma oyster]

paws coralie ae

since its fire but coralie is still underbuilt

[ancient needle]

Okay, replace AE with RC

AE is too slow by today's standards

[prisma oyster]

what would the rotation be

[ancient needle]

RC applies her buffs with either purple CA or ult

(you can turn off her QTE btw)

And should turn off Coralie's too

Lemme double check smth actually

[quick birch]

you can also try Vbs if you have her for stellar drain and some non ring bound lightning buffs if you have her, do give RC a try though

[ancient needle]

The main things to keep in mind about Coralie are keeping 2-3 stacks of her buff above the health bar and making sure ground taps hit the enemy (the second WA from the air)

[prisma oyster]

is her stellar outburst important?

from my team she does roughly the same dmg during stellar outburst since i cant get her sp to recover quick enough

[fathom hull]

yes

[abstract quest]

how much stamps would be needed to get a SS rank valk to SSS ? originally being S

also.. is it bad that i only just bought the bp while i'm still there

[quick birch]

depends on the valk but if it's just a normal valk not awakened or anything it's 200 frags so 20 stamps since 1 stamp = 10 frags

[quick birch]

i mean kinda you're gonna loose out on some value since you won't be able to finish the BP

[abstract quest]

oh damn my bad

barely noticed just wanted the crystallums 💔

[leaden depot]

i just start hi3 again and i noticed my hoh elysia's stigma and weapon all changed

after searching around i feel like i should change the weapon

i didnt find out much abt the stigmas do i need to change tht too? and if so do u guys know when it reruns?

[shadow gyro]

she does have a dkey introduced in 8.1

the stigmata can be forged but no point getting it without the dkey

[leaden depot]

ya i just noticed after a week or so

[shadow gyro]

and the dkey will rerun asp

even though i would like to stop you for a moment, do you wanna be competetive or are you casual?

[leaden depot]

more casual

just doing events and stuff

[shadow gyro]

returnees dont get much benefit as newcomers but its ur choice

[leaden depot]

ohh ic

[shadow gyro]

alr thats fine

[leaden depot]

i mean i did make a european server account by accident

even though im asian

[shadow gyro]

oh, i mean its up to u if u wanna use that acc

[leaden depot]

i just thought it be better to go into a account that i already have

[shadow gyro]

or run 2 accs

its alr, rewards wise beginners are at a much better case than rerturnees but it depends on how attached are u to ur old acc

newcomers can also get hoh from level rush (need to pay with irl money to unlock this tho)

[leaden depot]

wait they doo

[shadow gyro]

mhm

[leaden depot]

also whts level rush?

[shadow gyro]

shes also in reserve shop (permanent bp shop) but it will take forever to unlock a valk with it using f2p bp balls

[shadow gyro]

beginners have a chance to pay for it and it rewards you good chunk of crystals and a character as you level up
lemme show u a pic

[leaden depot]

thxs for the help

its been like 3 to 5 years

[shadow gyro]

its alr, maybe a new acc can help refresh ur mind too but up to you!!
if u need any help check the pins in this channel and dont be afraid to ask!!

take ur time and have fun

[leaden depot]

ok thxs maybe i should try a new acc and see how it goes

[shadow gyro]

it goes without saying that such things are not allowed, please read the rules!
if you mean content from cn then you can check in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion !

[lone kindle]

im here to help

@shadow gyro is the friend you were talking about @leaden depot

?

[shadow gyro]

mhm i just met the person and helped them

[lone kindle]

ah

welp

doenst matter

its the one you meant before right?

[shadow gyro]

which before?

[lone kindle]

@leaden depot are you planing on doing competitive? or you planing on chilling

[shadow gyro]

they've casual

[lyric anvil]

They got muted also

[lone kindle]

#🎮honkai-chat message

[shadow gyro]

oh..

[verbal kraken]

what do people play to complete this one do people does the expedition where you send units count for it ? i think it didnt but just want to make sure

[odd plume]

yes it does

i alway do that

[outer spruce]

yeah, just do 3 expeditions and it counts

[verbal kraken]

i should send for materials i dont know why i sent for fragments ohwell kek

[shadow gyro]

frags are fine too

esp if u can get a valk to sss for witch orb (can buy ncc with it)

if ur very low on mats tho feel free

[verbal kraken]

i have an ok amount for now granted dont have any unit to use it on

[shadow gyro]

its alr, you wait until you start staying in rl (supersring) then use it on ur p2 dpses

oh well if you also happen to have any recent and geared p1 valks but i assume maybe you dont have?

you can prio mats ur missing since u dont seem to need ncc rn

[verbal kraken]

well im just brute forcing everything using your old fancy team

until i get back to RL and see how it goes

didnt really feel like making a new account so ill just go with the flow with my returnee status

dont have any P2 unit well except coralie i guess since shes given free from story

didnt spend my asterite on any fragments yet idk maybe i should on helia or something

but then again this team is covering everything for now so whatever

[shadow gyro]

yeah ig keep the ncc for new p2 units u can get with wp

hofi could have used it had she had her dkey

[verbal kraken]

unfortunately don't have both new stellar keys

[shadow gyro]

yeah, just save for new valks, do you have enough for next patch? or think ull have for the version after?

[verbal kraken]

i can get coralie since im 20 away from guranteed so i can get her and 4/4 hopefully

but probably not the AstralOp but maybe we get lucky who knows

[quick birch]

astral ops aren't needed if your goals isnt to retain nirvana

SS DS is more than enough for RL

[upbeat egret]

[shadow gyro]

what mango said + ur missing p2 units so having more valks to form more teams > aop

[keen solstice]

where did the beginner banner go

i swear it said it would go out in 89 days

oh wait nvm

wrong account

[misty falcon]

is there anypart 2 unit you can use as a substitute to eden in hoO dps teams? as in hoO + hoFi + part 2 unit

[ancient needle]

Teri

VBm as gigacopium too ig

I assume you don't have HoTr and LV since you're asking about P2

[misty falcon]

only part one char i got fully geared is hoO, i dont think its worth investing into getting gd gears since she is so old

[ancient needle]

HoO DPS is her only use atp realistically speaking

If you want to you can, but Teri is enough unless you wanna mald MA

I don't think they're rerunning Starless Bull in Abyss atp

[ancient needle]

Assuming you alr have GD's weap that is

[misty falcon]

yeah ive got teri 4/4 so that is enough for me

thanks for the help

[dry fern]

Just started and plan to pull next patch's character - is there a point in investing in base coralie then?

have literally 0 characters since haven't pulled yet

[quick birch]

yes you'd use her as a support for the 8.4 valk

[dry fern]

I heard for certain characters you don't want to level certain skills, is there a resource I can use to find out?

[quick birch]

you don't really come across said situations these days, a skill that you may not want in certain situations usually has a toggle

[shell turret]

I play the game for the first time look good and I thought it will suffer the same fate with honkai star rail and wuthering wave but it run well

[sick pebble]

teammate isn’t trolling anymore

anyways is it true that even if you don’t have the corresponding element of p2 valks, you still shouldn’t invest in p1 teams ?
like I don’t have any p2 physical team but I still shouldn’t invest in HoS team?

[outer spruce]

yes that is true, you can just brute force with p2 teams instead of building a weak p1 phys team

[sick pebble]

thx!

[calm kernel]

not only would the p1 team be weaker but also probably cost more to build

[sick pebble]

Ikr I swear each one stigmata takes 1 year to get

[calm kernel]

like just wait for them to release new p2 phys valk, pull that one, boom you have phys team

elements arent even that important anymore since huge chunk of weathers is astral ring specific or melee/range/bleed or smth

4 out of the 16 bosses in the current patch were actual elemental weathers

(and none of those 4 was physical)

[sick pebble]

well I thougtt get physical is only chef sushang

[sick pebble]

yea that’s true
iirc some requires startdust teams and stuff

[shell basin]

Mini dudu

is also phys

[quick birch]

we already have 3 physical p2 units jds,rs,ps

[shell basin]

really it's fire and electric we have a bunch of

[quick birch]

though even if you'd have to wait a bit for another phys unit that would just mean that said weathers would become rarer and rarer and if they occur you can brute force them in RL or below most of the time as already mentioned

[sick pebble]

how well does the new future AR team perform? (dragon carollie)

[shell basin]

FDD takes ignite, roo, and most fire weather, and probably threatens to steal some of the borderline weathers with bio enemies and another gimmick unless it's specifically shilling someone else? but obviously FDD DPS isn't bis for eg lightning or phys weather, though she supports them

[quick birch]

i've heard that she's not the best bruteforcer though she'll still be better than any random cope p1 team, and future patches will also give more valks which you can probably bruteforce with most of fdd's value is in her supportive capabilities

[shell basin]

and yeah more brute forcing with paws and fdd support

or sushang, fws, etc

[quick birch]

i also wouldnt really say she takes most fire weathers 90% of her actual weathers are ignite

wrong reply

but the point is the same

[shell basin]

Hmm yeah actually if you have fws you can just run her dps fdd support cant you

[dry python]

Correct

[sick pebble]

I kinda regret not pulling for paws then

I brute force with vita dps

[quick birch]

vita is a solid btureforcer just not on phys weathers

because she takes an instant -50% dmg nerf due to her being lightning and so would paws

[quick birch]

yeah but fws also has no fire weathers lol

cora has like 1 fire weather which is litost but he's bio and want's ignite so it's kinda a no brainer

otherwise most fire weathers are either lantern or sparkle related

anyway as i already said most of fdd's value lies in her supportive capabilites and same as vita fdd dps is niche

if you ever stumble opon a phys weather and you can't really bruteforce it we're more than happy to help

especially in RL you can often come up with pretty solid cope teams that'll get you through the weather

[sick pebble]

it’s funny that sparkle dps requires lantern

[quick birch]

she doesnt really that's one specific weather because the boss has a hitcount mob and lantern can handle that pretty weel

[sick pebble]

I haven’t been online for 2 weeks and now I’m almost the lowest rank in superstring

[outer spruce]

meanwhile ice weathers are either hohe or thelema and hohe requires thelema

[spiral badge]

even on that specific abyss cycle (fire kosma), sparkle doesn't need lantern. It's a top option but people have retained and/or promoted just fine with other means such as vita.

[shell turret]

I can't log in on my Twitter account and it take too much space on my storage

[fervent furnace]

For Abyss, how does Lantern (3/4), Thelma (4/4), & HoHe pt 2 (4/4) rot work?

I know that Lantern missing her sig weap is already like a huge dmg loss, but I don’t think I have any better teams

[upbeat egret]

Rl

[fervent furnace]

Yea Rl ;-;

Like I’m debating pulling Lantern weap atp

[lyric anvil]

Better than me

[fervent furnace]

What’s your team?

[lyric anvil]

FWS, PS, PAWS

[quick birch]

It's not worth it for this 1 weather

Lantern herself has a pretty niche usage and those 60 pulls are better invested in a newer valk

[lyric anvil]

Lampbad

[quick birch]

We also don't really have an estimate score for weaponless valks best we can do is help you improve your rot

[storm lantern]

weapless lantern should still outscore badum

[fervent furnace]

Sorry dude I kinda pulled it already cause I have enough gems for next-next patch even to hard pity >.<

So I’m looking for 4/4 Lantern Rot

[quick birch]

https://youtu.be/PJ023sBsN2g?si=IFxH6-CIG4yYTW38

[fervent furnace]

Tyty

[sour valve]

I really want to save but I just realized there's an ely skin in shop and now I wanna get it too

I probably shouldnt, right?

[upbeat egret]

You shouldn't

We don't even use her....if you care about meta you should not but if you don't care go ahead

[sour valve]

I don’t really care about meta

I just want to get all the Ely stuff I can, though I need to save too

[ancient needle]

Then go ahead, it's only a lil bit more than 4 pulls

[upbeat egret]

You can do what you want then

[sour valve]

it takes so long to get crystals lol

Though I guess I can just work on clearing P1/P2 stories again

I only got 2.2k crystal rn though so aaaa idk

[fervent furnace]

Are you planning to pull for next ver battlesuit?

[upbeat egret]

Idts

[fervent furnace]

My basis for pulling Lantern’s weap just now was that I’m not xD

[upbeat egret]

She is not going anywhere with 2k crystal

[fervent furnace]

& honestly, if you don’t follow meta, do what makes you happy. I got three skins from there & I’m definitely happier for it, but a large part of that was because I’ve been saving much longer

[sour valve]

Nah. There’s a certain character I’m looking to get that’s not next version, and I only need 30 pulls for them.

[fervent furnace]

Out of curiosity, who?

[sour valve]

Can’t say because they’re not announced yet

oh wait I could probably just get a bunch of crystals next patch anyways

how many crystals do patches usually have for F2P?

[quick birch]

~20k depends on your abyss rank and patch length

[sour valve]

ohh okay

how do I check abyss rank?

[ancient needle]

The next patch will be 23k + some extra cards assuming RL

[ancient needle]

You open the Abyss menu xdd

[sour valve]

RL?

[ancient needle]

Redlotus

[quick birch]

Redlotus

[sour valve]

[outer spruce]

early abyss is called q manifold

[fervent furnace]

What level are you on?

[sour valve]

oh that

[fervent furnace]

Like what’s your captain level?

Ah

[sour valve]

88

[ancient needle]

Okay, then it's Superstring Dimension in your case

[sour valve]

ohh

I’m at Forbidden 1

do I just need to kill things to rank up?

[ancient needle]

Getting to Forbidden is unironically harder than getting to Nirvana

You can pat yourself on the back

[sour valve]

oh

[upbeat egret]

[ancient needle]

Yes, but you need to do it better than other players

[sour valve]

I don’t remember ever ranking up lol

[sour valve]

I see.

[ancient needle]

And keep in mind Abyss is a very significant part of your income

[outer spruce]

remember to play abyss twice a week

[ancient needle]

!faq superstring

[small willow]

Superstring Dimension

Hey, Captain!

[Click Here](#👶beginner-help message) for the summary of Exalted Abyss and why we push Captains to "retain Redlotus".

[sour valve]

I guess I get a free rankup then?

[ancient needle]

Yeah, no one plays down there

[sour valve]

ah

[upbeat egret]

@twin quest forbidden D

[sour valve]

I guess I’ll buy the Ely skin then and focus on farming Abyss and stuff lol

[twin quest]

do you mind if I ask you about sinful 1 disturbance in an hour ?

[outer spruce]

make sure to do elysian realm too

[sour valve]

I don’t mind

[sour valve]

oh yeah. I can only get 14k points in it lol

One day I’ll maybe get good enough for max

[ancient needle]

There are signet guides in the pins

[sour valve]

oh right

I alway just run sparkle so idk if it’s harder to do it with her or not lol

[outer spruce]

gotta raise the difficulty to at least absistance for full crystal rewards

[twin quest]

also asaphie, you are like the first person I think to actually ping me in either of the help channels with someone who posted their disturbance

[ancient needle]

She's quite mid in ER, but she's more than enough to clear Finality assuming she's properly geared

(Abstinence is enough for all crystals though)

[sour valve]

Ohh okay

[outer spruce]

most characters can clear very easily, even coralie and helia can

[ancient needle]

"Even Helia"

[upbeat egret]

[outer spruce]

very very easily

[ancient needle]

I was memeing about "even" not being very appropriate for her

[sour valve]

my brain is struggling to understand this. Is the Nexus the thing you get when you get three signets?

[outer spruce]

yes

[sour valve]

Alright. Do I go for both nexus things or nah?

[shell basin]

you can only get one

[outer spruce]

you can only pick one

[shell basin]

if it says pardofelis one, it means pick the first nexus signet

[sour valve]

Ohhh

[shell basin]

if it says kalpas 2, it means pick the second one

[sour valve]

Ty

[shell basin]

np

[sour valve]

So I just want to get three of each type to unlock their nexus?

[outer spruce]

yeah

[sour valve]

Got it

Also I see that I’m supposed to change my artifact things at “first shop” and “second shop”. I just went into one that was in a choice of four, so should I change to the Shop One loadout?

[outer spruce]

yeah that's the first shop

[sour valve]

Ty

[outer spruce]

that's when you change the loadout

[sour valve]

what buff type is Su?

Avoid damage or smth?

[outer spruce]

su is combo based

[sour valve]

Oh

Ty

[outer spruce]

more damage based on number of hits on combo meter

[sour valve]

Is “combo boosts” the ones that bring you up to X amount of combos at the start or the ones that use your combo for extra damage?

[outer spruce]

yeah, they're there to set up the signets that reset at 150 hits for either more damage or enemies take more damage

[sour valve]

Ty again

[sick pebble]

Ikr
All I can do for ice weathers is brute forcing with my vita and corallie 😔

[outer spruce]

yeah that might be the best you can do for now

[sour valve]

is Kalpas ultimate?

[lyric anvil]

HP loss

[outer spruce]

no kalpas is low hp is more damage

danger mario run

[lyric anvil]

Kevin is ultimate

[sour valve]

Ohh

[lyric anvil]

||Dark Lord is fun with Kalpas||

[sour valve]

I almost died to Ely .-.

but I won, woooo

Oh I don’t get enough points for the medal thing

Oh well

[ancient needle]

You need to clear Corruption for that

[sour valve]

aaaaand my game got stuck infinitely loading in hub lol. Guess I gotta restart

[sour valve]

I see

[ancient needle]

Getting the emblem once is enough for collection points, then you can go back to clearing Abstinence

[sour valve]

ah

How many stardust do you get per pull?

[ancient needle]

Depends on what you get and on the banner
It's mentioned in the banner info

iirc if you don't get anything special it's 5 per pull on limited banners and 3 on Dorm

[sour valve]

Ohh okay

30 more crystal things until another HoHE stamp and I probably don’t have enough pulls

I guess there’s always BP if I really need

[lime plinth]

is it good to break through the ceiling as casual player i plan on using hoh on er i have 2 of her stigs and sig weap

[shell basin]

How are you doing in abyss

[lime plinth]

never done it yet i just return

[shell basin]

The main reason to break through is to do higher abyss for more crystals and to get the crystals from memorial arena

But higher abyss usually requires some gacha battlesuits to out score masters RL

[thick bolt]

it depends on your personal goals, whether you want to take part in more competitive content (and get higher rewards) or stay in a relatively relaxed zone with a bit lesser crystals.

!faq breakthrough

[small willow]

Breakthrough

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for more information regarding Breaking through to Exalted (Captain Level 81+).

Short Answer:

• It is highly recommended to break through for better rewards, but be aware that it is irreversible!

Also see !faq superstring regarding Exalted Abyss

[lime plinth]

these are my valks

[shell basin]

I might be missing something but I don’t think any of those are current meta relevant so you might struggle with abyss unless some of those part 1s are geared

[thick bolt]

If you're looking to be competitive, do you have any attachment to your account or are you up for a restart?
both routes will get you the same place but restarting may be several months faster hence the question

[shell basin]

Geared part 1s can do decently in A2 and A3 if they’ve got the right team but I’m not an expert there

[lime plinth]

some are fully geared with their sig weap and stigs but some only have weap and foundry stig

these are my weap and stig

[lime plinth]

im not really competitive i just do daily and log out

[shell basin]

If you’re not looking to be competitive and don’t do abyss or MA there’s no reason to break through

No reason not to either admittedly

[thick bolt]

Well then I'd suggest just staying in Masters then, it's quite a bit more relaxed than exalted and you can use and pull stuff you like
since your current stuff is Agony 1-2 standard so you're gonna have to suffer a a couple of months till you pull the newest units

And there's always the option to change your decision and breakthrough later down the line once you've grasped the game again seeing as you've just returned.
Since breakthrough is irreversible in the first place

[lime plinth]

i see thank you

[restive musk]

I am just abt to start playing the game ... Any tips for me or blueprint for me???

[thick bolt]

!faq lost

[small willow]

Feeling Lost?

I got this, Captain!

The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!

See the channel pins of #👶beginner-help for more:

• Account Progression Pointers: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• What to pull right now: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Valkyries you should buy for Asterite: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Clearing up misconceptions about the meta: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[thick bolt]

check account progression pointers, most stuff in the pins is a read as you need basis
short tip, save the gacha for next patch and just do story to progress levels and get crystals while completing your starter manual/book missions since those serve as a good guide to get you through the hoops of the different gamemodes

if you're looking for a story read order including stuff outside the game like the mangas then there's a reading order pinned in #📚honkai-lore
Just beware any spoilers from ongoing conversations if any

[restive musk]

Ok buddy thanks for the help 🫡

[thick bolt]

Do ask if any questions come to mind

[slim blaze]

Is a coralie going to be a must pull unit

[abstract sequoia]

must pull is relative

[ancient needle]

I mean, you're an RL slacker, no one's a must pull for you

[slim blaze]

Gdi

[thick bolt]

she's breach RoO, somewhat of another vita situation. Good to have, decent alternatives exist
this is just genralization btw

[abstract sequoia]

the things she provides makes her equal to vita on release IMO

[slim blaze]

Then again

Wait fir 8.5 i guess

[ancient needle]

Okay, idk about that

No future AR types

Still looks juicy ofc

[abstract sequoia]

definitely

[slim blaze]

Totally not motivated by lamp maid outfit

[abstract sequoia]

[slim blaze]

Only reason im considering tbh

[abstract sequoia]

i need the other things more

idk if i have to skip the maid dress over it

[ancient needle]

Well, you can't get both the outfit and dkey/synergy unless you pay up

[slim blaze]

Fair enough. Dont have lamp anyway

[abstract sequoia]

i did.

40k crystals now

[ancient needle]

Gotta do it again

[slim blaze]

Whel

[ancient needle]

Gonna be Homeless Ram

[abstract sequoia]

didnt make it through p1 story, so i kept my word

most expensive crystal pack with x2

i want aop anyway

[finite sparrow]

Hey guys never played this game in the hoyoverse, kinda want to give it a try is it worth starting now ? any banners that i shoud focus right of the bat ?

[abstract sequoia]

sure, it's totally worth starting now

[finite sparrow]

Cool

[thick bolt]

notable banner is the one starting on Thursday with the next patch
"Behold! Fate Defying Dragon"

[ancient needle]

Pulling-wise you should wait until the next patch (drops on Thursday)

[thick bolt]

!faq lost

[small willow]

Feeling Lost?

I got this, Captain!

The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!

See the channel pins of #👶beginner-help for more:

• Account Progression Pointers: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• What to pull right now: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Valkyries you should buy for Asterite: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Clearing up misconceptions about the meta: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[thick bolt]

also for starting tips checking out account progression pointers is nice. Most guides in the pins are on a need to know basis so just do story and your starter book missions as you familiarise yourself with the game

[ancient needle]

Make sure to get the weap too

[abstract sequoia]

and avoid the starter banners, they're bait

you want to save your crystals for new releases

[finite sparrow]

okay thanks guys appreicate all the info , going to go slow and enjoy the story first

[abstract sequoia]

yeah no problem

[sand ocean]

is valkarie pledge good for lvl 50?

[storm lantern]

no, you can use the valks mentioned in the asterite investment pin

hov is also good since you get her weapon

but leave it at 35/35

[sand ocean]

which pin is that?

[sand ocean]

who is hov

[storm lantern]

there's a glossary of terms in that pin as well

[storm lantern]

at the top

[abstract sequoia]

the entire wall of guides is useful tbh

[sand ocean]

Tysm bro

I cant get helia in the shop though rn right?

She aint there

[storm lantern]

she's in there

there's no free character card unlike coralie but you can still buy fragments every week, though with when you're starting you can ignore helia

she only has buffs for lightning and world star characters

[edgy breach]

what's the difference between a valkyrie and the battlesuit

[storm lantern]

valkyries are the characters and battlesuits are specific playable versions of those characters but you'll probably see them used interchangeably sometimes

[edgy breach]

ohhh oki

who's the best dps rn

[storm lantern]

not really applicable to this game

[edgy breach]

oh

[storm lantern]

content is hyperspecific and changes often

[edgy breach]

ahh kk

so there's no undisputed bruteforce every content type of character

[storm lantern]

no

some teams have higher dps against no resistance typeless enemies but content isn't like that

[edgy breach]

i started playing the other day and am starting to grind through the story, is there anything i should do as a new player other than the story that i shouldnt miss out

[storm lantern]

check the account progression pointers pin

[edgy breach]

oh oki ty

[edgy breach]

what is q manifold

[thick bolt]

also called abyss, it's one of the the main consistent crystal source gamemodes and the endgame (at least the level 81+ version which is named superstring dimension)

[edgy breach]

ohhh okiii

[sand ocean]

is palatninus equinox good? just got it from dorms thing

lol sorry for spamming

[storm lantern]

you can use her early game if you want though i'm not sure she's better than hov with weapon

[sand ocean]

which hov does she use

[storm lantern]

save your dorm cards in the future because there are events that give currency for spending them

[sand ocean]

ok thanks

[storm lantern]

not sure what you meant

[shadow gyro]

do you mean what weapon should HoV use?

#👶beginner-help message use this for early game gear, ignore HoHE if you dont have her already

[shadow gyro]

hello, so since 8.1 there hasn't been any valk added to WT and i got all that are in ER so for that time i brought my LE to SSS
but i have a different idea and i need some advice: im thinking about getting at least few of the valks in WT to SS for crystal dorm errands because i still have issues with securing those tasks...
i want suggestions on whos the beck pick to farm from WT for this? and if they have any extra benefits that may be useful
i did so some unnecessary calcs and it seems that MPE and HoFs are the cheapest and fastest to get but i want to hear if there's any other opinions and if i can get a suggestion for at least one more valk?

[shell basin]

well if we look at the dorm errands sheet

MPE is an elysia suit so she's diplo and Kiana is stamina

so you'll probably want a agility or int one?

Unless you have an elf for one of those

[shadow gyro]

mhm, i don't have any for that category

the only elfs/aops i have are the defaults
my only ranked s rank that matters for this is LE, the others are either s2, s1 or s

[shell basin]

oh you have Lightning empress

[shadow gyro]

oh its worth mentioning that i have the elf box and the 8.1 s rank box but i wanna keep them for now

[shell basin]

then that covers agi too. That means you're looking at Int

I would reccomend building a bronya or fu hua suit from WT

if you want to do dorm errands total coverage

[shadow gyro]

hmm lemme check one thing rq

the cheapest hua battlesuit that i can get to ss is SK because mine is s 1 star
will take around 5 weeks tho
the only bronya option i have is HoR but she's more expensive and will take longer

so should i settle with HoFs, MPE, and SK?

[shell basin]

Well HoR has stamps in ER

so you can grab those

[shadow gyro]

i have enough AL for HoFs assuming no new valks in WT but ill probably have to pause LE frags to get MPE or SK to SS

[shadow gyro]

my HoR needs 210 frags (missing 8 stamps from shop rn) compared to my SK that needs 70 frags bc she's alr s 1 star

[shell basin]

ah then it sounds like for dorm errands that's the fastest option

[shadow gyro]

alr ill settle with these 3 then ty

[twilit junco]

does this ever cycle?

[quick birch]

you can choose a new one every week

but the dkeys themself stay the same

[twilit junco]

so once u get all 5?

i thought there were other weapons

in the divine key slots in the dorm i saw more

[quick birch]

there are but you get them through other sources

[twilit junco]

what happens once u get all 5 then?

u never touch this mode again?

[quick birch]

you do the mode itself also gives other mats that are usefull

and you also want your gene limits to be at the maximum level and for that you need the spirit jade from that mode

[hearty sequoia]

Is the new version out this week or next week?

[quick birch]

this Thursday

#mt-countdown for the excact times

[abstract quest]

any tips for this?

its w the 180hp and 800 thing

no matter how much i try i can never do it 😔

[shadow gyro]

do you think you can go back and get the last sp bar? otherwise i used this for reference https://m.youtube.com/@EST3TIGA

there's also another thing one sec

#💁gameplay-help message here's this thread

[celest shard]

What stigmata set does VKE want? Looks like Leeuwenhoek TB and Thales M?

Would 3/3 Leeu be fine? Bored so wanting to build her without burning mats other than crafting

[shadow gyro]

prob stick with this and u can use utu if u have it

[celest shard]

I don’t have M Thales though, would cost the red stigmata mat which is a lot slower to build up than the mirage stuff

[storm lantern]

i think thales m is basically like 22% independent multiplier in addition to the tdm

so pretty important piece but depends on what you want her to do

[celest shard]

Literally just ER probably xD

[lime talon]

if im a returnee who has yet to put in a code, does the freind recruit code work ?(SEA server)

[storm lantern]

in that case you're probably fine with 3pc, as long as ur not doing some mimi mitsu esque runs

[ancient needle]

Yes, regular invite codes work

There are no special returnee codes

(an invite code has 2 letters at the end of it)

[celest shard]

Nah, just want to build her to say I did.

And the slow burn to er lv15 for her

Figure with Dragoon around the corner should be weather for her soon enough.

[lime talon]

cant find the channel so anybody here want me to redeem their SEA invite code

[ancient needle]

#invite-links-here

[amber finch]

am i too late

[amber finch]

why didnt you ping me you idot

[ancient needle]

Ainnoway you didn't max them alr

[amber finch]

i’ve been slacking off and casual for like 3 patches now teammate

i dont actively find noobs anymore

[lime talon]

nope not yet

[amber finch]

17031105VD

hand typed btw

just like handmade artisan stuffs

i never pre type it like some casuals out there

17031105VD

[lime talon]

lmfao i cant find the spot i just found to enter the code

[amber finch]

proof fr

[amber finch]

BONUS—> uhh invite code or smt its around there

[pallid vortex]

Hi guys there is something in the inventory called Energy cell so what are they used for🤔?

[amber finch]

you use them to salvage stuffs like asterites

wait i meant ae

ae imaginons^

[lime talon]

enjoy just redeemed...
had to do it by hand tho copy+paste not working on bluestacks

[storm lantern]

they double the asterite you get for salvaging items, you get them from bp missions

[amber finch]

you gotta do your missions for me to actually get the crystals

[lime talon]

mind sharing your friend id as well

[amber finch]

you can just slowly do it tho

[amber finch]

you only get to redeem the code once and thats it, unless you become a returnee

[ancient needle]

Just remove the letters

[pallid vortex]

Oh ok thx

[lime talon]

oh you got to be **** me

[amber finch]

oh wait

[storm lantern]

there's a pc client btw, it's honkai impact 3 so a different client from the na/eu servers

[amber finch]

he meant my uid not my friends id lmao

[lime talon]

i just did all my BP missions

[amber finch]

nah its fine

the missions are easy and they’re literally just what you usually do when you play the game

its not some obscure stuffs like “level 3 4 stars stig to 30”

[lime talon]

dw i finally can play on mac using bluestacks, ill be more active now i can play...
my school installed vpns that wont let me play app store version

[amber finch]

(i didnt understand any of that)

[pallid vortex]

How to get helia VBS weapon?

[ancient needle]

Can't

[amber finch]

imagination

or pay hoyo a hefty sum for them to rerun it

[lime talon]

basically school used a dns to block url resolver for hi3 to function so i had to move to laaggy bluestacks on mac so i can play now..

also i sent a req

[ancient needle]

(or just use a Dawei card)

[amber finch]

will accept when i login to do dailies

[amber finch]

oh right i forgor, still a hefty sum

[lime talon]

is teir V the highest armada?
i was stayed on a old armada and they recently kicked me out so tryna find a better one

[amber finch]

ye

oh wait i dont have sea to link you to the channel kek

[amber finch]

oh actually

wanna join the armada im currently in

they’re active

[lime talon]

sure if its good and actrive

[amber finch]

there’s a channel called sea armada recruit or smt

[amber finch]

oh they’re definitely gooj

[lime talon]

yeah which one is it

[amber finch]

lemme just dm the link

cant send invites here smh

[amber finch]

they’re called moon but the armada’s name is literally japanese so

[lime talon]

i know in chinese its pronounced "yue" but cant exactly type that on mac w/ bluestacks..

[lime talon]

can u dm ig?

[amber finch]

wait a second the guild’s name is written in chinese?

[amber finch]

already sent the dc server

[vagrant iris]

Hey guys I just got Valkyrie bolt storm and was thinking of crafting her weapon from the foundry is this a good idea

[sweet flax]

you cant craft her weapon, its not obtainable in any way at the moment

the option in the foundry is her pri-arm, which requires owning her weapon to begin with

[vagrant iris]

No I meant the five star weapon that you can craft with ae imagining

*imaginon mb

[shadow gyro]

if u mean da ta then you can but its not her sig weapon and also leave it at lvl 35 bc the mats to upgrade it isnt worth it

or you can keep the base weapon since her damage doesnt matter for what youll use her in

[vagrant iris]

Ok thanks

Should I farm her and blastmetal stigma or should I just wait for new Coralie

[shadow gyro]

do farm their fragments from asterite shop

[vagrant iris]

Mb I misspoke should I forge their stigma I mean

[shadow gyro]

hah sorry im a bit sleepy

[shadow gyro]

for that wait, because you would want the mats for the new characters

[vagrant iris]

Ok thanks a lot

[shadow gyro]

no worries! feel free to ask and theres a lot of guides in this channels pins that u can read when u can

you can also use this as well #👶beginner-help message just ignore herrscher of human if you dont have her already

[sweet flax]

valkyrie boltstorm stigmata is a waste of mats to be quite frank, as for blastmetal, as mentioned by stea better to use the source prisms on the newer characters first, if you have an excess of them then yes you can consider crafting tsiolkovsky

[pallid vortex]

Hi guys is it possible to get all the rewards with this Vita progression in Elysian realm

[sweet flax]

stats dont matter as much as gear does in her case, as long as she has her weapon and stigs she will be fine for clearing 2.25x difficulty (which is where all the crystal rewards are)

[pallid vortex]

Ok but i cant i always need extra seconds on the last boss

And fail

[sweet flax]

the floor 17 or flamechaser?

[quick birch]

also make you have the right signets check the signet guide in pins

[pallid vortex]

Oh the hound

[sweet flax]

^

[pallid vortex]

I don't know most of the terms in the guid of the Elysium realm so i kinda of tried to do as it said but i couldn't get something called Eden and i don't know whta is or how to turn on nexuses

[sweet flax]

tryna find that other faq that had the flamechaser with their signet name on it

well wtvr, let's just use the vita case itself, are you going ring or no ring

[pallid vortex]

What is ring exactly 😅

[sweet flax]

as in, are you using your stellar outburst (big purple button on the bottom right) during combat or not

[pallid vortex]

Oh yes i can use it

I upgraded the Astral Op to the 60

[sweet flax]

so you are using it ok, im assuming your main issue comes from understanding this then

[pallid vortex]

Yes

[sweet flax]

are you familiar with using the glossary yet? the support valks are the shortened names of the valk battlesuits

so the supports such as dsa and br are just short for deepspace anchor and blood rose

you pick those along side 2 sigils at the start of your run, those are the first 2 sections

[pallid vortex]

Like this right?

I followed it and did as the guide said after i received a shop i changed to the second section of sigils

[sweet flax]

yes, but instead of using because of you as the support sigil, you'd wanna use dreamful gold instead if you were following the guide
ring playstyle vita doesnt need her other ego signets as much so because of you isnt as valuable

this is because of you btw

[pallid vortex]

Oh yeah sorry i don't have discord on pc

[sweet flax]

no worries

let's move on to the signets then? or do you have any other questions about supports/sigils

[fallen furnace]

Been playing for a week guys, I got spina astera from the dorm supply , so I got chrono navi from asterites to run with her is it good tho?

[pallid vortex]

Nop the sigils i already understand how to us eand change them

So to the Signet pls

[latent hatch]

Hi! seeing this topic on ER, i remembered an old time question. How on earth are we supposed to clear HoV short sequence stage 3 ? Thats one of my few valks not 9/9, and i cant even get close of killing the boss in time

[sweet flax]

they do have synergy with each other, and can be used by beginners, however from a competitive standpoint they have 0 use going forward
you can use rc as the 3rd slot if you'd like btw

[sweet flax]

shallow sequence? there is a shallow sequence guide in the pins

[fallen furnace]

Rc?? Which one is tht

Is it easily available

[latent hatch]

missed that let me check ty

[sweet flax]

there is a glossary in pins, rc is reverist calico, you get her for free as a beginner the catgirl

[fallen furnace]

Oh2 yeah we get tht for free

[rugged compass]

SpA isn't used anymore outside of free ER xtals, (also next patch we get another mecha fire unit, who is like sirin)
Sirin replaced SpA, and the character coming out later this week is replacing Sirin.

But if u wanna use her she also wants her gear along with her supports Sparkle/CN and HoTr

[sweet flax]

sorry for the delay, are you familiar with the difference between regular signets, core signets, enhanced signets and ego signets

[fallen furnace]

And btw is it worth buying frags

[rugged compass]

I dont recommend investing much into her tho

[pallid vortex]

Ego i understand i can get them when i enter the one with Sakura blossom 🌸 Signal

[sweet flax]

asterite investments are listed in pins, so is war treasury the 2 places you can get frags consistently

[latent hatch]

hahahahaha so true

[sweet flax]

yes, all valks start with 1 ego signet (flamechasers start with 2)
when playing with the ring in er vita is very reliant on the ego signet called abyssal aid for majority of the damage

so you wanna make sure you get that first

[pallid vortex]

Im the guide it says i should get the cosmos one first

[sweet flax]

^

cosmos is used in the no ring playstyle

[pallid vortex]

Ok oh i see

[sweet flax]

when playing with the ring, you want buffs that help during stellar outburst

[pallid vortex]

Ok please move to the next i understand now there are two guides ecah for a specific situation now tell me more about the Signet

[sweet flax]

so let's move to the last section of the guide, the actual signets
now you will have to eventually learn which flamechaser has which signet but for now let's go over the ones important to use in this run

eden - gold
su - bodhi
griseo - stars
hua - vissicitude
pardofelis - reverie

[amber finch]

#asuprof2025

[sweet flax]

the idea is, you wanna get the core signets of each flamechaser and move onto the next
so our goal is to get 3 eden (gold) signets, unlock her first nexus signet indicated by the 1 beside her name, and then get su/griseo/hua signets next

in the details tab, it mentions which signets you generally wanna prioritise from that flamechaser (tl;dr 99.9% of the time its dmg buffs that get the priority)

[pallid vortex]

Oh ok i see so i need to try and get them all in my last runs i kept on going full bodhi after o got the gold

[amber finch]

(you got my vote)

[sweet flax]

ye, you dont need to unlock every signet for each character, just the important ones

for example, in this case we would prioritise creeks, because it provides a damage buff

[pallid vortex]

Yep i understand now about the best signet of Each path can you tell me where i can check them?

[sweet flax]

check them ingame or the guide?

[pallid vortex]

There is an in-game guide about the best signet for each path 🤔?

[sweet flax]

I meant the er guide in pins, the website

[pallid vortex]

Oh ok

[sweet flax]

I thought you just meant checking basic signet info which is available in the collection ingame

generally speaking though, the best signets are the ones that provide the damage bonuses

[pallid vortex]

Oh yeha i know about the collection sec

Ok thx for everything as always ol now am going to do my run wish me luck

[sweet flax]

basically for eden, you want to get these ones (ignoring good wine)

since the 1st and the 3rd provide dmg buffs, while the 4th increases your total sp which boosts the buffs from eden stigs

and since the guide recommends eden1, we pick her first core signet called aria of gold

after this we can move onto bodhi/stars/vicissitude signets

[pallid vortex]

Ok last question about divine Key how to open the rest of the keys i have some of them from the old co op move but how to get them now?

[ancient needle]

Realms of Battle, one per week

[pallid vortex]

How can i chose which one

[sweet flax]

^ co-op was replaced with realms

just complete it and if you still have an unobtained dkey you will get a selection after completing it

[ancient needle]

If you alr got everything, you won't see the menu at all

[sweet flax]

these being the dkeys obtainable from realms

[pallid vortex]

Wait so only these? I already have all of them what about the rest?

[sweet flax]

judah and sakura can be obtained via foundry (and converting foundry weapons for weapon resonance to unlock judah in the exchange shop)
4 dkeys are available in the bp atm (and I believe 7t is coming soon), f2p can get one of these dkeys every 2 patches since it costs 10 crystallums and f2p get 5 per patch (3 bp 2 dorm)

[oak estuary]

Pull gacha/craft in foundry/buy from exchange/reserve

[sweet flax]

the rest are currently unobtainable, or remain locked behind gacha as mentioned

next patch there will also be a dkey box in the spending event with the rarer dkeys

[pallid vortex]

Ok are they necessary for the buffs?

[oak estuary]

Need to spend 40k xtals(pull curency) before u can get it

[sweet flax]

sakura/judah are the more important ones, because they can unlock the lightning gene limit
the rest are mainly obtained for the +10 atk sync buff

[storm lantern]

[sweet flax]

that is not true, its 28k for 700 tokens

[oak estuary]

Oh wait, its the small spend event and not the big one

[sweet flax]

and tehcnically speaking, you just need 25.2k for 630 tokens, +100 from dorm pulls

[pallid vortex]

Ok which one is Judah

[tawdry flax]

i asked this in gameplay help but perhaps that wasnt the right place? i just want to know if it is possible to change the interact button from r to f? its just something ive gotten used to :)

[sweet flax]

its called oath of judah in the exchange shop

[outer spruce]

the gold cross

[sweet flax]

can check input bindings in the settings

[amber finch]

!faq noodles

[tawdry flax]

okay! thank you :D

[tulip sedge]

If i correct you can craft 2 dkeys and few can be obtained in exchange shop.

[pallid vortex]

This shop?

[tulip sedge]

Yes

[sweet flax]

that is incorrect, judah is the only one obtainable in the exchange shop
sakura pinions and abyss are craftable, but abyss and pinions require their non-craftable counterparts to provide any use

[tulip sedge]

Isn't sword also in trade?

[oak estuary]

Sakura, abyss, and fenghuang pinions can be crafted, judah can be farmed with spirit wps that u convert to wp resonance

[amber finch]

you can craft one dkey and exchange for one in exchange and some can be obtained from bp and ofc the free ones that are foundational from uh that mode (foundry has more craftable dkeys but like you need the gacha ones anyways)

[tulip sedge]

I've seen it few times

[sweet flax]

xy sword? we fucking wish

[outer spruce]

xy sword is rare

[storm lantern]

erm 🤓 pos is also obtainable in exchange

[sweet flax]

you are mistaking it for another weapon

[amber finch]

mf hasnt reran in like 50 years

[sweet flax]

if you get pos from exchange you deserve whatever nickname you are given

[amber finch]

ok who’s doing that

you deserve jail time if you do that

[pallid vortex]

Which one i can converge plus the key of void i already have its upgraded version

[tulip sedge]

It's not a divine keys and you shouldn't convert them

[amber finch]

can leave hov and the gloves (can keep the bow for uh collection reasons)

if you dont rlly care then just convert them all

[sweet flax]

generally speaking the only weapon from these that would see any use in any case is the gloves or hov pistols, but since you already have hov pri arm or at least if that's what you meant then you can get rid of it too

[amber finch]

not like they have any use anymore

[amber finch]

why shouldnt you

he needs weap reso for judah

[tulip sedge]

Ah, convert.

Sorry i mistook

[sweet flax]

make sure its convert and not salvage btw

[pallid vortex]

Ok so key of void since i have the pri arm i can convert this extra one but what about the rest except the gloves

[amber finch]

convert them

their only use is to be pretty (they’re not even pretty)

[sweet flax]

pick 4 to convert then, leave the gloves if those are your only copy of them

tbh i'd keep raven bow if that had any buffs for some cope in ma

[amber finch]

nah

[pallid vortex]

I will keep the bow i will throw the magstorm instead since its Craft able

[amber finch]

its just for collection purposes

[sweet flax]

👍 basically these 4

[tulip sedge]

Hmm, can i convert weapon spirits, or i must upgrade them?

[amber finch]

ew fucking old man

[amber finch]

gotta make them into actual weap to convert iirc

[sweet flax]

spirits need to be turned into their respective bounty weapon to convert

[tulip sedge]

Understood.

[sweet flax]

ye just took a look that shit's ass 😭

[amber finch]

atleast you rarely see an acc with it so its a pleasant surprise

[sweet flax]

tbh I just wanted the aslaug pieces

[amber finch]

[sweet flax]

wait I never maxpri'd my mmg weapon

HOW THE FUCK WAS I TOP SCORING IGNITE

[storm lantern]

a4

[amber finch]

sinful5

[oak estuary]

Other ppl didnt try

[sweet flax]

forbidden 2

would be funny if people were unironically hardstuck in forbidden

[storm lantern]

can u even be hardstuck forbidden as a no gacha account

[amber finch]

its funny when they complain abt that and then show that they’re using sk with full peary

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/let-them-cook-let-them-fight-godzilla-godzilla-2014-meme-gif-10523835079864650811

[storm lantern]

no gacha account actually sounds interesting tbh maybe i make one

should be able to retain eu rl

[sweet flax]

eu is bad but its not that bad

[amber finch]

prob not nowadays

[storm lantern]

shh

[sweet flax]

you wouldnt be able to retain a3 with no gacha

[amber finch]

no gacha accs barely got a3 back in sirin days

[sweet flax]

actually, even in eu fucking masters q-manifold is all p2 teams now dist might be too high for cheap units to get rl masters

[amber finch]

if we were in jan of 2024

[tulip sedge]

You can't clear qmany without proper character

[amber finch]

actually nvm dist still pretty high

[amber finch]

you can clear qmani with anything thats decently geared

[prime hawk]

no pull acc on hi3 🥀

[tulip sedge]

I can't clear agony with promotion even with paws

[sweet flax]

my alt says otherwise

[prime hawk]

delulu

[amber finch]

proper is overstating qmani’s difficulty

[amber finch]

thats a whole different problem

[storm lantern]

no delusion just masochism

[sweet flax]

I dont mean this is an insult but

it might genuinely be a skill issue

[amber finch]

damn this is an insult

[sweet flax]

unless paws is missing her weapon

[amber finch]

dont go that harsh on the guy

[tulip sedge]

Full paws

[amber finch]

no weap paws should still clear qmani rl

[prime hawk]

theres other ways to torture yourself for self pleasure

[sweet flax]

ye defo a skill issue then

[amber finch]

[tulip sedge]

Agony qmany is was it. And firefox boss

[sweet flax]

idk tbh I had struggles clearing it with sena 😭 but weapon feels too strong for it

[amber finch]

no debuffs so it’d been an easy clear

[amber finch]

just dont use sena

[sweet flax]

I had no other units lol

[amber finch]

easy fix

[tulip sedge]

Because you can't utilise her astral without team, i managed to clear it only when i ignored it full time

[amber finch]

poor ass

[sweet flax]

wanted me to use hov? we didnt even get hov weapon in 7.8

[sweet flax]

dont flame my alt bitch

[amber finch]

nuh

my alt is literally akayuki so i get the rights to

[tulip sedge]

And now still suffering in agony 2.

[amber finch]

just get a team for her then

make good pulling decisions, save wisely

[tulip sedge]

Easy said than do, i need Coralie

[amber finch]

and when you got a team for her, learn the rotations

[sweet flax]

she can brute force masters - exalted a3 without her team, promoting to rl is out of the question though id agree

[tulip sedge]

I have crystals

[dry python]

[amber finch]

pull for her then

how is it easier said than done when you have everything ready

[sweet flax]

ches maybe the banner needs another 3 fucking days

[tulip sedge]

Well, i tried 2 hours second stage of previous abyss

[amber finch]

its literally 3 days asu

[tulip sedge]

With Parvati

[dry python]

You're not even in the correct country

[amber finch]

close enough

[tulip sedge]

Always 30% of last hp bar

[dry python]

Viet is not that close to sg

[amber finch]

i think its just a rotation issue

[amber finch]

nuh

[tulip sedge]

Well, old Coralie and old helia. And if I press astral ring it's gg

[dry python]

Wat

[sweet flax]

im curious, are you applying buffs with vbm and vbs asap and switching back to paws or are you doing extended rotations on them

[amber finch]

?

[dry python]

You should still be able tog et off one rainless skies

[amber finch]

yea

[tulip sedge]

Obviously just refresh buffs

[sweet flax]

let alone the increased damage buffs from activating your ring

[tulip sedge]

And return to paws

[sweet flax]

please dont tell me you've been ignoring your astral ring this whole time

[storm lantern]

you might be seeing poor performance with stellar outburst due to not refreshing vbs buffs beforehand

[sweet flax]

vbm buffs are applied automatically on so

since roo

[tulip sedge]

I press astral -1 ult -e-2ult and with 20 energy i must stack 280 more

[storm lantern]

thats true but also not the valk i said

[tulip sedge]

Hitting boss for 20 sec and use my third in yhe end

[sweet flax]

oh why'd I read that as vbm lmfao

[sweet flax]

use the downtime to re-apply buffs not like brute-forcing basic attacks with 0 buffs is gonna help

either way its gonna be much easier next patch with fdd having the symbiosis tag

[prime hawk]

if hoyo added another a-rank valk maybe no pull would be possible

but then again no pulling means cora and helia would be weaponless 🥀

[sweet flax]

vbm weapon is available in p2 story, vbs weapon is just unobtainable in general
if you meant fdd then you wouldnt be pulling the valk tbw since no gacha

[prime hawk]

i meant the a-ranks yea

[oak estuary]

Vbs wp was free for one patch

[sweet flax]

then gacha or no gacha, the weapon situation doesnt change

[storm lantern]

dawei card for vbs wep

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/cursed-goat-gif-6856262736279591755

you think someone unironically did that

[prime hawk]

rage bait

[storm lantern]

no cause when it was relevant u could just pull it

dawei card for vbm syn actually happened though

[sweet flax]

I dont know who pulled on vbs banner when dsa was followed by mps

[prime hawk]

me

[sweet flax]

unless it was discounted as fuck ig

[storm lantern]

me

[sweet flax]

wait was it actually a pull banner? (<- was on hiatus till 7.4)

[prime hawk]

yea it was a regular banner

like any other weapon

[outer spruce]

full 60 pulls for weapon

[oak estuary]

Me

[sweet flax]

oh

[outer spruce]

the only discounted 10 pull was for songque aop

[prime hawk]

i was between helia and sq and i got helia sig

turned out helia died and sq still is alive as "cope" aop option

🥀

[oak estuary]

And helia wp was free a few patchs later

[outer spruce]

helia weap bait

[oak estuary]

[prime hawk]

yea

[storm lantern]

14% team damage

[prime hawk]

atleast i got it in 30 pulls

[storm lantern]

too insane to skip

[amber finch]

literally 100p difference btw

[storm lantern]

suspicious

[pallid vortex]

Thx asumaraii

[sweet flax]

you shouldnt be unlocking that many buffs for a single signet

again just get 3 for the core signet, and move on

[pallid vortex]

Oh well i was kinda of trapped so i had to go gold

[sweet flax]

you can buy other signets through pardo shop

[sweet flax]

in that case its fine, I just assumed

anyways good job on clearing, it will get easier with levels and improved gear

[tulip sedge]

Problem is, if you press astral ring you can press 2 ultis, and you will not have enough time to even land a third ult. If you ignore ring, you can use full ult rotation And you will deal muuuuch more dmg.

[pallid vortex]

It was easy like everything dies after the Astral ring buff goes away

[amber finch]

just farm sp with helia and cora then

helia in so is a good sp farming machine

[tulip sedge]

Ok, lets farm 300 sp on vbs?

With absolutely 0 dmg.

Even Coralie can deal some dmg, but vbs is just nah.

[amber finch]

who said only her is farming?

thats a bad idea

you’re gonna go crazy when you find this out, just do the normal rots you normally do outside of so

but in so instead

ok got a burst of motivation and decided to test if it were possible, from my 2 shitty attempts i dont think its possible for a 3rd ult with that dog water team

however, i dealt more damage in the end anyways

so take that as you will

[quick birch]

it is though you just need cancles

[amber finch]

you can just not use so and stick to your original rot if you want to

im not a mind controlling god

[amber finch]

hey it was 2 shit runs

[amber finch]

very important

just incase you gloss through it and flame me

[pallid vortex]

Hi is she usable in abyssal Agony 1 with Vita right now she also have her weapon fully maxed

[amber finch]

you can still flame me for saying that you can 3 ults without cancels tho

[amber finch]

use supporting stigs on her instead of that if you’re using her as a support

[pallid vortex]

Like what exactly?

[amber finch]

if you dont have tsio then just anything that boosts the team’s dmg

popular cope cheap options are gluttony T

[sweet flax]

fu hua musician mb pieces from your beginner manual
theresa glut t from foundry

[amber finch]

and jst TM

[amber finch]

wait this is not that cheap

for beginners

[sweet flax]

crafting jst in the big 2025

[amber finch]

let me spam type

[amber finch]

honestly he could prob milk that for like 2-3 months atleast

[quick birch]

why would he waste that ether fuel

[sweet flax]

and he can milk turg for the rest of his account's existence over jst

[amber finch]

atleast is an over exaggeration actually 2-3 months atmost

[amber finch]

turg

[pallid vortex]

Ok i crafted the 3 fuhua musician set

[amber finch]

only need 2

M and B

for T use gluttony T

[pallid vortex]

Oh ok

[sweet flax]

wait crafted?

[amber finch]

i just assume that he’s a returnee

[pallid vortex]

Yes?

[amber finch]

yk, the kind that played for 15m then got bored and leave for 5 years then returned bc they found the game interesting again
or i could be completely wrong

[amber finch]

fuhua musician is obtainable from starter manual if that’s what you’re wondering

[pallid vortex]

I actually played for months back thrn but my phone was meh

Oh ok well i crafted it so ...

[amber finch]

its fine

not like its expensive or anything

[pallid vortex]

Ok i fully upgraded everything to lvl 50

Is there any recommendations for the last Valkyrie in the team these are my Valkyries btw

Btw the abyssal Agony can i keep repeating the stage incase i mess up the combo or something?

[lone kindle]

what is going to be used on?

[tulip sedge]

Now try skipping astral ring and land proper x3 ult-charged attack- refresh buffs-repeat. I can guarantee that's this will deal much more dmg ( i have only standart astral op)

I also tried to use astral ring and use normal rotation and i had 20-30sec diff in bosses.

[pallid vortex]

This

[lone kindle]

nothing you have will gain benefits on that stage

[lone kindle]

did someone tell you to breack the ceiling?

[pallid vortex]

Ok btw is it only from my side or did my picture i sent kinda of turned into a shit emmoji

[pallid vortex]

Nop o have no idea what is the crling is

Ceiling

[lone kindle]

then you broke it on your own

damm