💁gameplay-help

[mortal jetty]

How much do you get?

[rigid cedar]

843

[mortal jetty]

You should do more

[rigid cedar]

i know

[half hatch]

Asaphie do you hab ref my DMG sucksss

[rigid cedar]

lost samsara hunter yesterday too, so working with less now...

but i picked up all bp dks to compensate

so that todo is done for now

[mortal jetty]

Wait a bit... I am sending it to you..my internet sucks rn

[rigid cedar]

run doesnt change much unfortunately, I barely dont pull off killing the first mob mid-CA and I'm forced to SO after getting 3 stacks, skipping CA

[half hatch]

I won't be home for a hot minute so dw

[rigid cedar]

cant do finisher, because the attack right before it kills already

[mortal jetty]

Sencho had the same problem

[rigid cedar]

would preferably kill with 3rd ult if I really have to overkill

[mortal jetty]

Are you doing the full sequence after entering SO?

[rigid cedar]

yes

I feel like if I skip first rot, its not enough dmg

[mortal jetty]

You should not

[pale musk]

I meant to put this in #📚honkai-lore , I'm sorry.

[rigid cedar]

dont worry, we can agree to delete the messages to keep things spoiler free

i should've said something too tbh

[mortal jetty]

https://youtu.be/w741K__D1ek?si=X7wn05TTH-r4qrDg

I think there is still some potential to do more

[half hatch]

thx your rot has some ideas I haven't thought of yet so imma try it when I'm home

[rigid cedar]

skipping 3rd ult? damn

maybe I should find out first how much hp bar the finisher takes

[mortal jetty]

@half hatch helia is fucking slow on low fps... this run has a lot of potential..atleast 790 on pc if same damage... I can not even do the fake a basic because of low frame...
The valk is fun to play but too bad on low frame

[rigid cedar]

at least I kind of get the eva cancels down I think

[half hatch]

Yk we don't have same DMG

But imma see what I can get

Also just learned about fake basic after WA wtf is that

Can we plz have less cancles

[mortal jetty]

Add a basic after WA or before ult to deal more damage but you need good timing if you don't want to lose points

[mortal jetty]

Yeah I was working on it with sencho yesterday

[rigid cedar]

is it related to 2nd basic sequence?

[mortal jetty]

I still think the run can 860+

[half hatch]

Can't I just have a valk where I can just unga bunga

[rigid cedar]

nah too ez

i live for these strats tbh

not too simple or hard to execute

[half hatch]

Nuh you can input a basic after WA and cancel with ult or CA

[rigid cedar]

ooo

[half hatch]

To the point where you don't even actually perform any BA animation you just see the DMG number

[mortal jetty]

Yes

[rigid cedar]

I made S0 perform like S2 incoming

[mortal jetty]

This is useful when you get 1hp pixel damage

[half hatch]

S2 can do that even more cuz they got 2 WA so they can do 2 cancles

[mortal jetty]

Nah S0 score like S0 with helia... S2 don't even need our basic shit

[rigid cedar]

yea ik

[half hatch]

I complained too much about clock I hate DMG checks

[rigid cedar]

just a tiny bit when both wa's are on cd

[eager smelt]

s0 with every tech is still less than s2 easily

[rigid cedar]

I've said that more jokingly not literally

[eager smelt]

s2 too op they get to abuse the 0 animation basic

while we have to do trash basic cancels

[rigid cedar]

i know how OP a 2nd WA is

ppl like Chef Twin with their double lucksacks are easily chilling while not top performing

I saw SS+ do more ults easily as well, solving the dmg issue

[mortal jetty]

For sure

S0 helia team need to absue the SO until the last frame for some damage

[rigid cedar]

is 1442 on PAWS with +124 from dkeks enough?

[eager smelt]

u can do better than that

[rigid cedar]

i try, my affixes already improved by miles

[vernal terrace]

Used a different rot against pig

[rigid cedar]

missing only 20.3

well "only", i guess its almost a full affix slot

[vernal terrace]

Practically

[rigid cedar]

18.7 now, but out of locks

satisfying number tho

[vernal terrace]

[hoary pebble]

is there a huge difference between a S2 and a SSS HoH in a PAWS team?

[half hatch]

Simply DMG increase for HoHe

While GoI supports do not deal that much DMG it'll prob still save you a few points

[hoary pebble]

thanks

[river moth]

why is kallen so op all of a sudden?

[dusky mantle]

Wdym

[dusky mantle]

U talking about ER? Or sakura samsara? MA? which kallen

[river moth]

er

[dusky mantle]

Its not her. Its every valk rn. With the variable arms weather

[river moth]

on a side note im trying to build senadina team.. is it still good for clearing endgame content and the value

😢

[dusky mantle]

Define build senadina team. Regardless, backpulling bad.

It can still clear abyss, just expect to be a bouncer

[river moth]

senadina, helia and coralie :0

[dusky mantle]

There are 2 helia rn. But you probably mean Vbs.

Are they 12/12? Just lacking gear levels or smth?

[river moth]

i just unlocked helia and coralie

senadina no

im not sure if its still good, i saw it recently and it was one year ago

[dusky mantle]

You should give up on getting senadina. Unless ur a battlepass user or smth.

Backpulling bad. And senadina too old now. Ur crystals are better spent on new valks

Ofc metawise speaking

[river moth]

what do u suggest i do right now? im f2p and want a team that is good for the value and clearing endgame content 🙂‍↕️

[indigo crown]

||does mini dudu wotrk with elysia? also with my accounts current state do i go for paws or dragon coralie?||

[half hatch]

Depends on your crystal count

[half hatch]

Technically dudu works with HoHe in both ways HoHe can support dudu and dudu can support HoHe but for HoHe DPS just use hohe+thele+vita/sena if both are S0 sena is better

[indigo crown]

well i do have enough to get paws 4/4 or ||dragon coralie 4/4||

[half hatch]

So 42k+ ? Any build pity and did you already do the discounted ?

[weak drum]

then save up and pull for 8.4

also ask before you pull (very important)

and the classic sena team in the big 25 is just sad

[spiral raven]

any refs for pig with no ps

is dudu or ely better

[dusky mantle]

What score does no ps get lol

[spiral raven]

ur bracket is crazy slac

altho mine not that less slac

actually never mind urs is crazy slac

bruh 10th is 18000

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1260875029957181461/1393412320260001802/1751803691995.gif

[dusky mantle]

Instant -7 slots wdym

[spiral raven]

i guess they havent done it yet then

[dusky mantle]

Look at all the familiar names

[mortal jetty]

Same score but dudu faster

[dusky mantle]

Looks like dudu better

[fading light]

i forget, does quantum pig need quantum valks?

[dusky mantle]

Wait. If dudu faster, how is it same score

[mortal jetty]

The run with dudu feels faster in my eyes.. dudu can be slightly better than hoh without synergy

[river moth]

ok thank u kind sir

[indigo crown]

im at 56 pity and yes i did do the discount

[indigo crown]

idek how to beat this guy without getting a poopoo score so i just decided to giveup halfway noit worth my time

[crude cloak]

Well, what team are you using?

[spiral raven]

the pig in ma ? u do need it if u want good score

[indigo crown]

i dont have paws so im just trying different teams

[indigo crown]

these are my teams

[crude cloak]

Any AOs?

I assume not

[indigo crown]

i have theresa and sera

[rigid cedar]

then why dont you try WoD?

maybe ely/thelema/sena is fine to bruteforce with

otherwise you could cook with RS leader I guess

[rigid cedar]

which team led to this score

[crude cloak]

Parv is immune to Ice

[crude cloak]

That's ~550

[indigo crown]

it was mini dudu but i stopped halfway too

[rigid cedar]

well with ice immunity its either her, jds leader or vita leader. Sena WS won't do better i believe

[steady osprey]

resist physical too

[rigid cedar]

light physical resistance

[steady osprey]

vita would help kewk

[indigo crown]

what is up with this boss 😭

[steady osprey]

strictly restricted so u have to use specific valk

before GoI it was Fov

[rigid cedar]

type counter is 3% less resistance than light physical resistance (33%)

[indigo crown]

yea

[rigid cedar]

so i guess?

[steady osprey]

vita's physical breach

[indigo crown]

i mean whatever gets me the best score works i suppose

[steady osprey]

...

[rigid cedar]

oh yea

i guess that could work out

[steady osprey]

but parvati shield is also very thick

[rigid cedar]

maybe jds dps then, with thelema sup for shieldbreak

i know sounds silly but I used to do that despite element immunity

[steady osprey]

what's with thelema does she have better shieldbreak buff than rs

[crude cloak]

RS doesn't have shieldbreak in WoD

But I doubt Songque DPS is better than Dudu DPS

[rigid cedar]

I have no dmg reference in RS's case, never used her

[steady osprey]

wod jds is just... bad

i feel p1 jds is even stronger lol

[rigid cedar]

i feel like ppl only say that now after LoA

but with Sera, i think she used to have her own SD bosses still. fair enough, that was before badum

[steady osprey]

idk. i was using foundry staff until LoA and won raffle
in fact i benched her until LoA lol

[rigid cedar]

oof yeah your jds is in a wheelchair without weapon

thankfully LoA is an electric wheelchair

with sig wep i can tell you that her SO dmg rotation paired with her good WoD supports isnt as bad

it just feels clunky nowadays, especially without AOP

[crude cloak]

They have Sera

And Teri

[rigid cedar]

i know

i just feel like ppl dont see jds's original role anymore and just kinda assume she's useless that way

[steady osprey]

the rondo buff always run out before i can do the 3rd CA

[rigid cedar]

yea because you have foundry

[gray magnet]

Any alternative lineup for current MA?
Have all p2 except Dudu & Teriri

[rigid cedar]

or did you get her wep from raffle

[steady osprey]

i got her weap

[rigid cedar]

oh okay, then your rotation is just off

[steady osprey]

i do 1st sup, CA, 2nd sup, CA, atkx3 mash weap then CA.

[rigid cedar]

and you use 3 WoD valks?

[steady osprey]

yes

[crude cloak]

Is your FPS like 20 or smth

[steady osprey]

no rondo buff only last 5s or smth

[rigid cedar]

thats the case for RoO valks

[crude cloak]

Then at least one of the valks doesn't have HSS

[steady osprey]

i cant do 3xatk 3xweap and CA in that time

[crude cloak]

What lineup are you using

[steady osprey]

i have all except simp

[rigid cedar]

[crude cloak]

Gotta record your SO rot then

(Vita Thele should be the best lineup this cycle btw)

[rigid cedar]

i mean if its an fps issue, you can do the basics before 2nd CA

but it should work the way you said

[steady osprey]

can u pre stack the bar? iirc i tried and it got cleared after CA

[rigid cedar]

then you misremember, because you can prestack it

shes my first p2 valk and I played her since I took the game more serious, I'm sure of it

the only way your stacks get cleared is in non-SO when switching out

[steady osprey]

rondo buff ran out too fast

it starts running out after using the sup so i tried fitting the non supp CA after either 1st sup or 2nd sup but its always gone before i can CA
even when i prestacked i cant do 6x weap in time

[modern yew]

It last 11 secs if the rondo is from a valk with hss, and 1 rondo from an hss support should last enough for u to do wp>combo atk>ba x3>wp x6, then after that u use combo atk and ult, it wont last enough for the last combo atk, but thats just how it is

[steady osprey]

yeah i just feel it too short (but not 5s short). i was reacting to "is your fps 20 or smth" though

[fierce crypt]

rondo buff just generates shadow when you use her weapon skill, so it ends before combo attack — no problem

[dusky mantle]

Oh shit

I dozed lff

Pain

Weird, why is the screenshotv like that

[digital sky]

Lv should work next abyss right. ..

[half hatch]

LV is BiS

Mech boss + lightning up and you need bleed DMG

Sus is like mega nerfed

[digital sky]

Oh. Really? But like isnt it psychic

Looks like uh HoC

[half hatch]

I'm brain dead

Thought it was already Tribunal time

Then idk

[boreal eagle]

probably second best

after sus

[mortal jetty]

I wonder how helia can perform next cycle

[boreal eagle]

try helia with luna support

[digital sky]

Helia Badum/HoH LV?

If i have helias weapon by that point i could try it... >:(

[boreal eagle]

ye if someone have sus ofc the use is as dps

[digital sky]

Huh?

[boreal eagle]

because in the normal helia team there is sus as support

[void canopy]

for anyone that's played through the event, which would you say to go with? My intuition is like 0/10 failure every time O:

[boreal eagle]

beacon

[void canopy]

cheers 😄

[digital sky]

Oh
I dont own sus

[void canopy]

thank you so much. It turned into an infinite turn/bomb build before I knew and jesus lol.

[boreal eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-elmo-fire-rocket-league-gif-26200608

[weak oracle]

wtf, how people achieves 840???

this boss is madness.

[eager smelt]

show run

[weak oracle]

not enough time for upload

main trick is what, AR? it's mechanical.

three ults + combo from helia - support 1 sends combo and ult - support 2 sends combo and ult - three ults + combo + finisher from helia

[eager smelt]

[weak oracle]

support 1 in my case is sushang, support 2 is ba-dum

[eager smelt]

u arent supposed to combo on either of them

and u cant go ps first or else dmg drop

[elfin parrot]

what abyss tier?

[weak oracle]

RL

[weak oracle]

???!!

[eager smelt]

after helia go to badum and ult then ps wa ult

[weak oracle]

won't I lose 3rd stack?

[eager smelt]

what 3rd stack

[half hatch]

no shining trace isnt regenerated by badums WA or sus WA you only do that for SP only their ults give shining trace and when helia consumes sp

900 shining trace = face of smth

idk i forgot the name but the dmg buff

[weak oracle]

stack for spending sp

1 stack for 900 sp spent

[half hatch]

as said you won't

[weak oracle]

if I don't combo (WA+hold atk+WA) on sushang - I lose 3rd stack

[half hatch]

her combo doesnt do anything though

[eager smelt]

but ps ult doesnt even use sp

how would that contribute to 900 sp

[weak oracle]

mechanics of AR

[quasi pier]

the tutorial doesn't even do that

[crude cloak]

Hieu Le has a DS run, did you alr check that

[quasi pier]

it's just qte wa ult on sushang

[crude cloak]

Or do you have Teri AO

[half hatch]

her combo attack contributes nothing to the AR mechanic though, you're like 30 SP short on helia after her 5th which you then farm by either WA or BAs

[eager smelt]

or by malding sp pack

[weak oracle]

A: Teri AO
B: Last time his ref was country-blocked by copyright notice

[crude cloak]

Well, gotta bust out the VPN

And the current one is fine

With Teri AO you can 860+, I can record a run rq

[half hatch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w741K__D1ek

Otherwise sencho also did one

You can take it as a rough example gotta adjust the run to your own needs

[crude cloak]

The DS run from Hieu should be more than enough anyway

[weak oracle]

hell no, I won't hit that much atk

[eager smelt]

hows those affixes

[weak oracle]

probably none, but even with them that will be at least 20-40 less atk

[eager smelt]

no affixes

thats so much atk lost

[weak oracle]

since when RL is so demanding to small detalis

[eager smelt]

but its not a small detail

[crude cloak]

Yeah, ok, my ref won't be very useful then

130+ ATK gap

[eager smelt]

ur dmg would go up by 10% with affixes

10% is very big

thats like if ur stigs were lvl 1

[crude cloak]

But if you still wanna check it out, here ya go ig: https://youtu.be/9rhUS6Uv-5A?si=OX5WKki4TjseQ7a-

[quasi pier]

oh hey same atk

[lament prairie]

luna stig prio?

nobody play this game anymor?

[neon narwhal]

B > M > T
really wants 2pc

[crude cloak]

No one out of peeps that have LV 🗿

[mortal jetty]

Wasn't it something like B,T,M?

[neon narwhal]

[quasi pier]

i remember b being important because 2 and 3pc don't work without it

[mortal jetty]

Yeah its definitely B,>T>M

[neon narwhal]

better

[eager smelt]

im busy dying over failing helia tech

[mortal jetty]

The stig order for p1 valk was 95% of the time B>T>M

Iirc

[neon narwhal]

okay so that's why I got scammed. GD HoTr team

the era of cope options

[mortal jetty]

Is it LV cope gear?

[crude cloak]

Ye, that looks right

Actually, wait

iirc Zhenyi Handel and full Handel should be very close

Lemme double check

[neon narwhal]

old cay chart from 7.0, lemme look up others

[mortal jetty]

Bruh this is only rough damage without specific weather.. did the person test it in abyss?

[neon narwhal]

[crude cloak]

I don't think anyone tested shit in Abyss back then xdd

[crude cloak]

I was wrong here

It's Zhenyi Handel vs Zhenyi

[mortal jetty]

This is a reason why you should not trust those damage comparaison at 100% blind

I never trusted it anyway

[crude cloak]

Well, ofc, but it's better than nothing still

[mortal jetty]

I mean if you really want to cope you can ask someone in live version to try some of this cope gear in abyss for better results lol

I will never forget the big scam comparaison between hos bis and candy T, mei pool and newton b lol... difference should be 8% but in real version the difference was like 25%

[crude cloak]

Who made the comparison tho

Wyv?

[mortal jetty]

Yes

[rare iris]

Candy T HoS was usually used for short burst runs iirc

Like one shot p1 with PE ult on HoD's core in Abyss

HoS bis wasn't able to do it when D started scaling

[mortal jetty]

It was some patch after hos release

[rare iris]

That early huh? Lol

[mortal jetty]

At her release the cope gear was candy t mei m newton

[rare iris]

Idr, but it did required strict timings and proper setup

[mortal jetty]

Yes I remember

[rare iris]

Making sure they get proc'd again by the feathers from her Ult when standing by

[mortal jetty]

We were also using on FGO

[rare iris]

Which makes it better than her bis if everything crits too

[mortal jetty]

We were mostly using it on img boss iirc

With the IMG gloves

[edgy hamlet]

btw I was able to get +6 more thanks to your help yesterday

[rare iris]

dalao

[grave widget]

Should I roll for PS to help my Helia?

[rare iris]

save for next patch instead

[grave widget]

ok

[edgy hamlet]

yippeee

[full trench]

nice

[eager smelt]

lucky

[edgy hamlet]

yea fairly slack bracket

[mortal bramble]

i'm trying to get all achievement for story part 2 and i still haven't figured out what the "mix-up" attack are. Anyone could help explaining it ?

[quasi pier]

if an enemy does a orange attack, you jump. if they do a purple attack, you press evade

[mortal bramble]

alright, thank you

[crude cloak]

Not all purple attacks are mix-up attacks btw

Only ones that have a lot of purple

(iirc the sound effect is a bit different too)

[mortal bramble]

ye i got the achievement, i'm missing 3 now but they are specific

[steady osprey]

p2 achievement is so trash

p1 give xtal

[boreal eagle]

p2 gives 500 asterite

that u can use to buy jubox music

[steady osprey]

xx times doing something for 500 assterite

[crude cloak]

That's more NCCs tho

[open bone]

Is might of An Atu the standout best dkey to pick from reserve works first, because it doesn’t take 1200 ether fuel to craft a counterpart like sentience and creation and is 10 atk from the start? Or is there something I’m missing that gives a reason to do one of them first

I know it’s not gonna be an amazing abyss bonus but I want 10 extra attack yknow

[vernal terrace]

Might of An Utu is with Cleaver/Judgement of Shamash

[open bone]

Yeah and you get those for free

So unless I’m missing something it seems just better to grab first than abyss flower of Fenghuang

But I might be missing something

I guess abyss flower gets you a cope lance?

Doesn’t seem big

[vernal terrace]

You'll get them all from BP eventually

[open bone]

Yeah fs

I guess maybe this is a beginner help question then since it’s just which first

[humble nebula]

Is... 4* Dudu elf actually better than 4* PB for SI SnS TA team in SS MA?

I just can not replicate the kills I'm seeing on youtube and I'm beginning to fear my ELF is the culprit.

Oh wait, my PB is 3*, not 4, but the rank differences don't seem to matter much for it.

[elfin parrot]

from the cost perspective, yeah it's easier to gain the benefits from that rather than FHD and AF. However my actual advice is to hold until you can get all at once. You never know if they would give away only some of these down the line and you wouldn't want to lock yourself into a dupe from an early decision that's only a marginal 10 attack on its own

[open bone]

fair

[elfin parrot]

you brought up a cope lance consideration but given competitive standards, if you're not using a signature weapon or a recent pri arm that's maxed out, it's prob a large difference that it isn't that much different from using something even more budget

and you prob don't want to spare the pri arm mats on it either if you don't have an excess stock ready for a future more relevant weapon

but maybe you have a more specific case that you can elaborate on

[eager smelt]

no

its either atk or u arent critting

[plucky gust]

on SS, either should work, maybe dudu is kinda better, since her buffs kinda comes a bit later than BP, so if the boss appears slower than normal, she's a bit better.

but in reality, its more of crit fishing really. in my typical SI, TA, Coraline, i just pray everyone crits or its an insta reset. . .

[flint ruin]

Quick question, may spark some debate: I'm currently trying to clear up the shallow sequence of Elysian Realm. Most I have the full 9 on though I have some to go yet. One of those is Miricle Magic Girl. I have her stigmata, and only the Golden Librae chakram (don't know when her weapon will come back around or be put in foundry, it can go to PRI-ARM I think). So far I have the first of three levels cleared, but the other two levels are two star and maybe one at best on the last of the three levels for her. She is at level 13 for upgrades, so any clues on that gameplay setup that I may be missing or a good weapon to borrow from someone else to wrap that shallow sequence up?

[quasi pier]

https://youtu.be/-6hfmwa1NWU?si=_LwDkVbqkO9q999g

you can just use the trial version of the character

[median jay]

What is "variable arms damage"?

[median jay]

i assume only the new helia has it? also ty!

[steady osprey]

all valks have it. its this patch's special mechanic

u get the corresponding variable arm when u get a signet. and get the upgraded version when u get the nexus (core) signet

[cunning gull]

this is an er weather so it isnt specific to any valk

[median jay]

ahh

does that mean old units with bad equipment are useable here or no? because i want to raise the ER level of and get fragment coins to bring my HoFs to SS

[cunning gull]

tbh this weather does really help old valks clear better so this is a golden opportunity

or valks u dont have geared well

[dusky mantle]

To be clear. Any valk 0 gear no levels can clear.

No stigs no nothing

One of the ER buff choices reduces ur damage by 95% anyways

[outer aspen]

What does AE stand for in elysian relam supports?

[rigid cedar]

Azure Empyrea

[scarlet pebble]

Azure emp

[tepid silo]

@crude cloak

Made a sheet for the event releasing monday.
It's as complete as I possible could before I had to leave.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c88QRs5XvvBieZDoFWIVcaEXnZ9vdLiJGHjZCshF19c

[steady osprey]

Anti-Entropy Imaginon

[pallid flare]

short question for new helia... what affixes? SP consumption?

[crude cloak]

Full ATK

[pallid flare]

huh... okay thought this time it might be SP

[crude cloak]

Max SP could be used on supps, but it's not good enough to bother with long-term

[half hatch]

Helia actually wants to consume as much SP as possible in SO to gain some buffs

Every 900 shining trace = 1 facet of infinitude ( shining trace is obtain when consuming SP with a 1:1 ratio )

[pallid flare]

I just noticed that it takes a while for her to get her third ultimatee activation so i thought fine tuning with SP consumption cutoff would help

but maybe i just unterstood her skill wrong...

[half hatch]

What team are you using with her ? You should be able to insta 3x ult and then regen SP with the supports to ult 3x again

[half hatch]

Shining trace is also obtained when teammates with the symbioses tag ult for the first time in SO

[pallid flare]

okay then i'll go for full attack thanks :3

[dusty dagger]

The heck is life simulator

Ok ty carvlao I pin

[digital sky]

Ty carvalho for ur generosity

[narrow cedar]

ty carvalho

[edgy hamlet]

Carvalho the 🐐

[dusky mantle]

Ew goat

Need more ducks and geese

[stiff wigeon]

Im in redlotus dont have badum using PS , vita and sparkle team and only getting 791 anyone got a video on how to get 800+? Cause theres a dude with the same team getting 850+

[crude cloak]

https://youtu.be/pDizLdT3814?si=jfnsrD-Jq4r_uju6

This is a good channel for RL refs in general

They likely will deal a bit more damage than you, keep that in mind

[stiff wigeon]

This was very helpful thanks 🙏

[dusky mantle]

Dkey supremacy

[tame rose]

how much of a damage loss is not having PAWS Helia's weapon?

[crude cloak]

~30% assuming you have old Helia's weap

If you don't, it's ~40% iirc

Essentially it's very big

[lapis raven]

as is missing the weap for most valks in the game

so only pull for a valk if u can guarantee getting valk + weap

[tame rose]

yeah, I have her old weapon. I'll just use that for now instead.

[spiral raven]

no ps just sleep?

[vernal terrace]

Yes

[lapis raven]

fov htr si

[hybrid ingot]

does this work for kira in ER or is there a better set?

[dusky mantle]

Yes

I guess

[shy bone]

is anyone knows how to get access to part 2 story? bcs i've started new account only for part 2 story(unfortunately skipped on main), so im already lvl 30, but can't play part 2 story

[open bone]

Should be in attack story, just scroll up to it? Same way you’d start a new chapter on your main.

[spiral raven]

can that 800

[shy bone]

ty it works, before i usually enter part 2 through bridge icon or in very beginning in starter manual(but somehow it doesnt work now)

[spiral raven]

man ps shills so unplayable

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834003548014379009/1344295703064612936/1139561526898991194.gif

[boreal eagle]

PS has some skills to reduce ult cd ? maybe in ranks ?

[olive flicker]

actually how do yall download the visual novels (anti-entropy and sth like those)

[lapis raven]

if ure na rl probably

[spiral raven]

im nirv

so many 800s s0+1

yeah i dont think i need to do anything

[vernal terrace]

Get 18K then sleep

[spiral raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834003548014379009/1344295703064612936/1139561526898991194.gif

[fast barn]

No it’s for ultimate evasion

[boreal eagle]

skills to reduce ultimate evasion cd ?

useless

[fast barn]

Yep ss2

[boreal eagle]

found it

[fast barn]

That’s for GoI no?

I already saw that

[boreal eagle]

for GoI yes i saw it later nvm

[river moth]

how to get flawless benediction bow

[craggy plume]

Wait for it to run in the gacha again.

[river moth]

ok thank u

[haughty token]

whats variable arms again? (not that i ever knew)

[scarlet pebble]

this can be wrong af,but signet that do damage

[boreal eagle]

basically every core signet does some extra dmg they have some extra effects in this ER called variable arms

[edgy hamlet]

Where does one acquire Aladdin stigs? Is it not craftable?

[crude cloak]

Not obtainable currently

They were in BP in the last season

[lapis raven]

.

[crude cloak]

[edgy hamlet]

LMFAO

i forgor

I was maybe thinking of Susannah OT

[lapis raven]

not craftable either, available in current story tho

[crude cloak]

(it won't ever be craftable, it's an event stig)

[edgy hamlet]

Current story? Im all caught up and I dont have it

[lapis raven]

cant wait for ala craftable

Drool

[edgy hamlet]

My damage is kinda cooked. What score should I be getting? nirvana*

[lapis raven]

999

[edgy hamlet]

[lapis raven]

waow!

[edgy hamlet]

I cant really follow the refs because my damage isn't really there

[lapis raven]

need a new b pc idw to reaffix this

[edgy hamlet]

give me

[lapis raven]

mom

[edgy hamlet]

[mortal jetty]

10- 15 points less compare to aladin

I tested it on my account with same rot

834 alladin
822 vita gear

[edgy hamlet]

Ok thanks. That means I def have room for improvement

[edgy hamlet]

wait 822? how lol

[mortal jetty]

I can record if you want but we don't have same D

NA is 2D more

[edgy hamlet]

545

ah rip

Im lacking dmg following refs that are 5D higher

[mortal jetty]

You can look at awawa score and do like -10 or 15 for the score without alladin

[edgy hamlet]

so 816ish

[mortal jetty]

You can add sus aerial combo after the two WA in SO

It helps if you are missing damage

I think you can copy my run and add a +5 points since I am on phone

[edgy hamlet]

sure I can try that, much appreciated

[mortal jetty]

Ok let me record quickly

This is normally a 823 i was 1 point slower on vita ult and if you add +5 because of low fps real score on pc is 826-827

@edgy hamlet

[edgy hamlet]

did the recording get deleted?

[mortal jetty]

Wait i will send it again xD

[edgy hamlet]

no worries lol

[edgy hamlet]

I will study the rotation thank you

[grim geode]

is there a surefire way to trigger evasion here? my kiana's qte is somehow too high to trigger the jump eva

[mortal jetty]

Everytime you qteing with sus try to wait 0,5s before you use weapon activ for a bit more damage

@edgy hamlet

[mortal jetty]

Aa jump aaa weapon

[edgy hamlet]

Huh thats good to know

[mortal jetty]

You can also wait a bit after CA with sus so that umbrella can deal more damage before you do the follow up

[grim geode]

what

[mortal jetty]

After kiana qte do aaa jump aa weapon

[grim geode]

oh RS doesnt need to CA

[mortal jetty]

Normally not

[grim geode]

the guide i was following had RS doing CA and it was a very small window where kiana qte's in and immediately jumps

[mortal jetty]

Were you doing the 872 run?

[grim geode]

wait if i do that i dont get full astral by 2nd phase

[mortal jetty]

Normally you can

[grim geode]

it's an 856 run

[mortal jetty]

After SA die in p1 switch back to RS and do the CA

[grim geode]

was only able to do 808

ill try that ty

[mortal jetty]

Normally there is a weird dodge that you can do in transition with kiana but I don't want to bother with it

[edgy hamlet]

@mortal jetty yea I may need more dmg lol

[mortal jetty]

Maybe you can skip vita qte and try two full rot with sus without delaying something?

[grim geode]

ty for the reference, i couldnt exactly copy since my kiana was dealing less than yours but i improved my score

[mortal jetty]

Do you sss teri?

[grim geode]

s only i fear

[mortal jetty]

Oh my bad

Gg then

[edgy hamlet]

I was doing this earlier for P1. This is barely enough dmg as I had to press BA before sus CA at the end. Maybe if I delay her 2x WA I could potentially save FWS ult for P2?

[grim geode]

wait is that rotation only possible with sss teri

[mortal jetty]

Maybe S teri can 840

Maybe you will need to qteing with songque at the end

+ult

[grim geode]

just realized the reference vid i was looking at in youtube had ss teri

[mortal jetty]

Yeah you need to save kiana ult for p2 and try to deal the WA ×2 like you said

[edgy hamlet]

ok yeah this is working out a lot better if I delay the WA on sus but still got a long ways to get 816

[mortal jetty]

I guess you are some damage in p2?

Are you adding an A after the two wA in SO?

[edgy hamlet]

Yea P2 is cooked as well but Im trying to implement parts of your ref into it

[edgy hamlet]

No, Im not sure how to do that. You just press basic once after she finishes her SO sequence?

[mortal jetty]

No

[edgy hamlet]

[mortal jetty]

After sus super qte you normally do 2 weapon activ right? Just add an a while she is still.mid air before you do CA

[edgy hamlet]

I can add a basic after her 2nd WA but I dont have to do a CA. I just press WA for the 3rd time and her bar runs out

[mortal jetty]

Something like this

It can be helpful if you are missing damage

[edgy hamlet]

I think I understand but when do you do a CA?

[mortal jetty]

Which CA? You probably mean the big zag at the end?

The cross attack?

[edgy hamlet]

hold on I think Im talking about charge attack and youre talking about combo attack lmao

nvm I understand now

[mortal jetty]

xD

[edgy hamlet]

Yea I just did that little optimization and now Im at 807. I'll continue this tomorrow, thanks for the help

[boreal eagle]

how much points loss is the aerial CA 2 or 3?

[mortal jetty]

No problem

[mortal jetty]

You mean aerial a?

[boreal eagle]

yes idk how to call it xD

btw ye was too slow i just added one A on ground+1 on mobile nice

[mortal jetty]

860 go

[boreal eagle]

ill snipe at the end

[mortal jetty]

No way danilao is sniping

[eager smelt]

too fast

even i cant kill while doing that

u need to go slow to go fast for 936 p1

[mortal jetty]

He doesn't have alladin tho

[eager smelt]

934 with no ala
theres not much of a dmg diff

all i did was add vita qte and then speed up ps by 1 atk

[mortal jetty]

It probably dépend of your rot then...when I do my rot with vita gear I am not even close

10 points behind

[boreal eagle]

the hitlag at the beginning -1 everytime there is a way to dodge these f arrows ?

[digital sky]

Badum can inflict bleed...right?

With like some specific guns

In uh helia hoh badum for this abyss.

[boreal eagle]

i dun know any guns like that

[vernal terrace]

[quasi pier]

there's the spirit guns that can cause bleed

[crude cloak]

Cooking with gear in P2 ainnoway

Report back about the score

[vernal terrace]

Is there even guns that can bleed?

[vernal terrace]

I saw

Very copium though

[crude cloak]

Damn, it relies on TF

Gotta have S2 Badum 🗿

[vernal terrace]

OOF

[crude cloak]

Seriously though, you should be able to proc TF on PAWS/HoHE and apply Bleed that way

[edgy hamlet]

Yea going slower helped. A bit counterintuitive but it worked

[digital sky]

Is it worth it...

[eager smelt]

no

just brick up

[digital sky]

Oh but it says attacks..

So badum... sigh

[digital sky]

I got 764 :3

And 704 with helia lv gd

[digital sky]

Not worth it..

[normal cloak]

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[spiral raven]

haalp, dumb pig refuses to fall down at 58

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834003548014379009/1347797849307480095/723928477098573944.gif

and i think i dont hve dmg for 888 on sa

maybe i just sleep..

[cunning gull]

any advice for the boss in this event.. didnt think this boss is though but it keeps nuking my ship even when i prepare a shield and try to heal myself..

[eager smelt]

none of the ships use shields

actually maybe im remembering that wrong

ill check

which one is nest of temptation

[elfin parrot]

there was one build that lets your shield not expire

nest of temptation is just the generic last stretch for any ship iirc

if you end up redoing your run or alternatively for future other runs, consider prioritizing maxing out your sp. a fifth sp is prob better than any card when you get way more than your deck can allot

https://i.imgur.com/sRmFKgM.png
https://i.imgur.com/pcI6H2i.png

https://i.imgur.com/z7UPQ0F.png

seems this is what my build ended up. Maybe see if you can adjust your current run to it

don't be afraid to tank some hits at the start to better stack yourself later on

hp is just a resource and it's fine to spend as long as you don't die

also note multiple agreed defenses do not occur simultaneously. They add to the same stack that only occurs once

so you may not need as much of them as i have included in this deck

maybe also check if est3tiga has anything too

although last i urged this a few days ago, i think people told me est3tiga didn't cover far enough

[cunning gull]

tysm!

[elfin parrot]

For future ref of later spaceships me and Awawa posted other builds here

[weak drum]

hm

need hlep

[dusky mantle]

Cope teams for hoc?
Was thinking paws fws LV lol

Hmm

The run was wonky

But its rl so i guess it worked somehow

[dusky mantle]

Nvm

Lv hotr eden time

[weak drum]

what the cork is that

[dusky mantle]

Copium. Lv dps did better kekw

[short palm]

Anybody have a ref video of PS/LP/FWS for nirvana with S rank teri? I've been looking everywhere but only find 3S teri videos :(

Mainly struggling with phase 2, I'm able to keep up just fine with most ref videos for phase 1 + transition, but I'm struggling with figuring out a good rotation for phase 2

[mortal jetty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF7y2pSiRUk

This is with ds + NA D

You can try to cook something with teri

[short palm]

Awesome, thank you so much!!

[arctic spoke]

I can Use vita instead of TFM?

oh nvm, i guess it useless in that condition, sry

[prisma olive]

Which buffs RS Durandal more? PS Sushang or Sparkle?

[crude cloak]

What about Badum with Bleed guns

Could unironically be better

[crude cloak]

Sushang has higher buffs, but Sparkle allows her to ult more often
Who's better in a specific cycle is very situational

[paper quiver]

any refs for H.O of corruption nirvana, with no rank ups ?
the max score I was able to get is 21778, but I think there maybe better, I don't have aladdin stigma either.

[lapis raven]

WOW! U OUTSCORED ME

I GOT 844 WTH

[full trench]

theres a ds ref if you scroll up, if you have teri i think you have to cancel part of the first shift or you overkill

[paper quiver]

I am thinking the same right now after watching that ref, will try that in a sec.

[full trench]

its ovt t ala mb but its not that big of a dmg difference, maybe means you want to vita qte in p1 if you're lacking damage is the only real difference

[pale musk]

Does someone have a ref that uses S rank Teri instead of SS or SSS?
Is there not a significant difference between the runs so I can just use SS run or something even if I just have S Teri?

[weak drum]

get owned

no way i actually won against you for once

[half hatch]

The only real difference is DMG Ari regen doesn't really do anything here

Since you only do 1 SO anyway

[pale musk]

So is the damage is significant enough that I shouldn’t follow SS Teri refs?

Also, what’s the best combo for the transitions? I’ve seen people use Vita and Sushang or just use Sushang the whole time?

[half hatch]

You should be able to follow awawa's DS rot just scroll a bit up, it's basically the same rotation

[pale musk]

K

Ty

[vague flame]

is lunar vow worth buying

[eager smelt]

cancel the 2nd shift not the first

[paper quiver]

what is the difference ?

[crude cloak]

Depends on whether you have SImp CE for her

[vague flame]

CE?

[crude cloak]

Cosmic Expression

Geared ofc

[vague flame]

Ah nope

[crude cloak]

Yeah, I wouldn't bother in that case

[vague flame]

im failing superstring since I dont play or pull meta much

[crude cloak]

Well, if you don't play much in the first place nothing from BP will help you really

What do you have rn though?

[red plank]

just pull all the upcoming banners with full gear, should be fairly possible with longer patches

[vague flame]

like ||coralie?||

[crude cloak]

All upcoming brand new stuff*

[vague flame]

from p1 or p2

[crude cloak]

Yes, but pls spoiler tag that

[crude cloak]

Both

[crude cloak]

Depends on whether you have enough crystals though

[vague flame]

not rn bc helia wep refuses to come

im on 4 pity 💀...

[red plank]

ah yeah, the new stuff, no back pulling

[vague flame]

i have most characters from p1 and from p2 I dont have sus, dudu, lantern, ely wep or simp

[red plank]

ok good, at least u can 4/4 her in time

[vague flame]

but p1 isnt geared at all 😭

[crude cloak]

Then you don't have anyone from P1

[vague flame]

i do plan to pull for ||coralie|| if i get enough crystals

[red plank]

p1 is no longer meta, besides for rare starless weather or next LV cycle

[crude cloak]

Do the valks you do have have their sig weaps?

[vague flame]

like i have hofin 4/4 hoo 3/4 with wep and ely 4/4 but i dont have any good physicals built

[red plank]

I think you might be able to just barely

but dont pull until u have good amount of Xtals

[crude cloak]

(~30k+)

Though 8.5 is anni, it complicates decision-making

[vague flame]

only sparkle, coralie, vita, sena, kiana (hofin and badum)

helia soon hopefully

[crude cloak]

Oh, you're dead broke then
You're forced to skip 8.4 in that case (unless whel ofc)

[vague flame]

ill try jic cuz I like coralie but we'll see

[red plank]

yeah 8.5 is a better option then

[crude cloak]

That should be enough for RL

[vague flame]

idk what to beat todays abyss with tho

RL ?

[crude cloak]

Redlotus, an Abyss tier

[vague flame]

oh redlotus sorry I forgot

today is physical & ice I cant seem to beat it

what team can I use

[crude cloak]

Phys can be bruteforced with Badum Vita Sparkle

For Ice you can use Sena HoFi Vita

[crude cloak]

You don't always have to use Phys if the weather is Phys

[vague flame]

yeaa I know

[red plank]

you need bleed for last stage tho

PS BiS dps

[crude cloak]

Yeah, gonna be tough there probably

[vague flame]

ill look up the abbrevations for that in a second

[crude cloak]

You wanna have PAWS geared for that at least

Yae pistols on Badum would be very nice as well

[red plank]

Pengering Sword AKA Shushang p2 battlesuit
BiS Best in Slot
DPS basically your main DMG dealing unit in the team

[red plank]

wp-less Badum? oh no

yeah LoA is outta the question

[crude cloak]

No, I meant using Badum support

[red plank]

GoI ig if u get helia wp

[red plank]

[crude cloak]

No good second supp option for PAWS DPS tho

[red plank]

coralie cope it is

wait he has vita

[crude cloak]

Yeah, probably just Badum Vita PAWS

PAWS is for personal damage + Para (more demej when Para is up)

[red plank]

well I hope vita is 4/4

[vague flame]

i have badum wep

[red plank]

oh good

[vague flame]

she is

[red plank]

what about Vita?

[crude cloak]

The ones they've mentioned are geared

[red plank]

oh

[vague flame]

everyone here is 4/4

[red plank]

I see

what rank are you in?

[vague flame]

agony 2 😭

[crude cloak]

Oh, ez clap then

I expect T3 at least

[red plank]

oh should be EZ retain then

[red plank]

yeah

[vague flame]

yea I beat physical with badum vita and sparkle I kinda forgot about that team combo for a bit Im gonna try the ice one now

[red plank]

A2 is just, u can ignore the weather and shit and just brute force it, and u still get t3

[crude cloak]

Actually, idr whether Sparkle can Ignite in P2

[red plank]

EU A2 dist shold be even more lower so yeah you're good

[half hatch]

She still has some small trauma on her ult iirc but nothing huge

[red plank]

ye just not worth it

for ignite

[crude cloak]

Ignore this part btw, not applicable in your case

[red plank]

why did you say that tho? is there a buff thats good for her or u just forgor he had her wp?

I'm guessing the latter

[crude cloak]

These pistols can apply Bleed

[red plank]

oh right, but tanks DMG in LoA no?

[crude cloak]

If Badum is a support then not really

[red plank]

unless as a PAWS supp

ye

but the rot would be really inconveiniet lol

[crude cloak]

But they don't really have a good comp where Badum can support
Sena DPS maybe? But iirc the application is too clunky for that

[full trench]

badum weap for supp is like 20 tdm i think?

[red plank]

have to periodically switch to badum for bleed

[crude cloak]

(it relies on TF being up)

[red plank]

HoC is PSY right?

[crude cloak]

Yes

[red plank]

PAWS DPS shoould be better than sena than

[crude cloak]

They don't have a second Symbiosis support

[red plank]

even in A2 the type counter should be significant

[crude cloak]

PAWS DPS is pretty much bricked

[vague flame]

unfortunately yea

I beat both of the ones I struggled at thank you

[red plank]

Vita can cover the leader support, but yeah

[vague flame]

ill try hoc now

[red plank]

if u can, try recording your run and send it here for additional help

cant really use your team since I dont have vita but can give pointers for the rot

[vague flame]

Oh I beat it

I dont rank up I think but its fine I guess if i dont rank down

[crude cloak]

Well, keep in mind your income is higher if your Abyss tier is higher

[vague flame]

ill try again if I get helia wep

yeaa I know

[red plank]

well just so you know, with your valks, you should be fine for A3 and even RL, besides some weathers that require specific valks

but yeah try again if u get wp

[crude cloak]

Easy RL retain tbh

[red plank]

should be much better

[crude cloak]

EU after all

[red plank]

yeah, SEA is a little more sweaty tho

[vague flame]

yea I know I was on RL for a while but I didnt play for a bit

[vague flame]

how is helia not fast atk

[red plank]

she fast sp regen

but no tag idk why

[full trench]

hoyo forgor

[red plank]

that'd be too overpowered ig

Sus might be replaced, besides her weather

[vague flame]

2 pity...

[dusty dagger]

There is no mechanic that needs the fast atk tag other than bodhi signets

[red plank]

yeah

or HC

[dusty dagger]

So how tf would having the tag replace PS

[red plank]

sus still best at HC

not replacing anything else tho

[dusty dagger]

^

[red plank]

idk I've on the screen since morning, too tired to argue

u prof so pointless to argue anyway

[dusty dagger]

[red plank]

[full trench]

the point is that fast atk doesnt actually affect the kit at all it's just a descriptor, her having the tag wouldn't actually mean she can compete with ps on hitcount

[elfin parrot]

profs have been wrong before. Including myself. It's fine to question or to debate with us like any other person. While we're not absolute, we're appointed professors because there's a general higher reputation of trust and dedication.

[mortal jetty]

Some peeps are forgetting that profs are also humans

[full trench]

is sAIraan a human though it's right in the name

[weak drum]

he’s powered by chespt

sponsored by ches inc

[elfin parrot]

I raan away

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271650388994560030/1285687918828064839/goodbye-chat.gif

[mint halo]

which 2 should i use for vita

[crude cloak]

1. You don't have to use only 2
2. It depends on the build you wanna play (SO or non-SO)

[mint halo]

yeah i wanna play SO

[crude cloak]

The second 5, the first 10 and the first 15

[mint halo]

thanks!

[crude cloak]

There's also the option of going the Variable Arms route, but it would require changing your signet choices during the run as well (cuz Vita won't be the one dealing the damage)
Not going for that should be easier to figure out

[vernal terrace]

I might do Variable arms to help level up my Valks that aren't good in ER

[arctic spoke]

hello did somone have vid for Abyss with dreamsekker?

[boreal eagle]

there is one in #video-creations from the rat

[arctic spoke]

rat?

[boreal eagle]

former rat the name on discord

[arctic spoke]

found it thanks

[boreal eagle]

[arctic spoke]

how we get sp for vita?

oh well, look like i do it too fast or miss smth in last hit for PS, i get 830
sry for spam.

[neon narwhal]

you bruteforce through hitcount using sus and SO after hitcount ends, Vita doesn't swap in after the 2 times in initial rot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDizLdT3814&ab_channel=HiếuLê

[arctic spoke]

so, it about 858 and i get only 830

[eager smelt]

record ur run

[arctic spoke]

What is "sus" and

[arctic spoke]

i try

But may be it take hour

[eager smelt]

an hour and abyss will end

[lapis raven]

rat got full s0+1 ref?

s teri

nirbanana

[arctic spoke]

waht is +1 mean?

[neon narwhal]

sushang

sync 1 weapon i.e base weapon

[arctic spoke]

im just very bad and to repeat ur vid take about 5 times,
1st on vita and then too vita but where we meet hitcount

[eager smelt]

its just the ds run but more dmg

well actually it was less dmg because dkey diff but

still scored higher because 2nd shift

[lapis raven]

qte sus jump wa?

[eager smelt]

yes

[lapis raven]

ok

[arctic spoke]

oh, guess i undestadn what i do wron

[arctic spoke]

https://youtu.be/U8L0uGNOTgI i guess i do it like that, but im do much miss

i cant get what attack used in end of 1st phase, and vita during hitcount bad sp

[half hatch]

you can either start pressing attack the second you kill p1 and then do 2 evades once your umbrella hit's the wall and then wa, or press WA before the wall spawns and then evade x2 and then wa again

by extending the umbrellas duration it takes down more of the HC shield

[eager smelt]

ur overkilling p1
dont use ps final atk before going to badum

for hitcount ur pressing 2nd wa too early u need to delay a little for more hitcount

and then u take too long to ring

just weapon and go to badum or ring

[plucky sinew]

hey i got 41 days on the game but i started around like 2022

what teams can i make w this?

[full trench]

you should make a new account honestly

[plucky sinew]

i was able to clear abyss tho fully

[full trench]

you'll progress that much in about half the time but you get way more materials and presumably more xtals unless you got very lucky on lantern

[eager smelt]

real abyss doesnt unlock until lvl 81

[full trench]

abyss before exalted doesn't mean anything

[plucky sinew]

ohh ic ic

[half hatch]

generally clearing abyss doesnt mean anything really, this game is more about how fast you clear something since it get's competetive from lvl 81+

[arctic spoke]

but why we ho badum?

[plucky sinew]

i get that i shud prolly restart but i kinda dont want to.. i wanna take it chill with this account.. so do u got sum team presets i could potentially use?

[full trench]

damage

[arctic spoke]

oh

[full trench]

you can use lantern coralie (p2 story) and a sp p1 support idk which one is best, keep in mind lantern will be completely useless in exalted so you're in a pretty bad place when you reach it

[neon narwhal]

!faq fhm

[night parcel]

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[neon narwhal]

some presets

[plucky sinew]

ah okay i see appreciate it!

[arctic spoke]

so if end hitcount i shouldn't do last move?

swap on badum or use ring istead

[full trench]

on vita just use one or two normal basics then ult in transition, do the rest of hc with ps

and by weapon awa meant weapon active not combo

[arctic spoke]

waht is hc?
i try to do Vita but look like it hard for me

[full trench]

hitcount

[arctic spoke]

oh

[full trench]

also your inputs look kind of slow to me but that might be fps

[arctic spoke]

thanks, but depend on how i do it, i cant reach more then 830, mb low attack

[eager smelt]

raise ur fps cap

[eager smelt]

i can assure u its not low atk

[full trench]

you're overkilling everything so its not atk

[arctic spoke]

so im just bad as always, sry

[arctic spoke]

but its alredy

[eager smelt]

raise it

[full trench]

its fine you just need to adjust your sequences for transition and cut down on damage for speed on p1 and p2

[eager smelt]

u can get consistent 90 with everything set to high u can definitely take higher fps

[arctic spoke]

[full trench]

also u can uncap fps if u want but its not necessary for now just focus on fixing the run

[eager smelt]

it says that even if ur device is op

[arctic spoke]

but what in sense of rising fps?
game can show it like about 90 or 120, but my monitor cant reach that

[full trench]

going above your refresh rate still helps

[eager smelt]

ur input speed will still improve even if u wont see it

[arctic spoke]

oh okay thanks

how u get stack here with Evade?

[eager smelt]

im doing basic spam into the wall
it will miss if u dont rotate ur camera

[arctic spoke]

we do 1 stack from attack and then we use W?

[weak oracle]

guh???

[crude cloak]

Don't you have the BiS comp

[eager smelt]

basic spam -> double evade -> weapon -> vita qte

[weak oracle]

me going blindly just messes me up

[eager smelt]

once u have enough experience u can do every abyss refless

[arctic spoke]

sry

[full trench]

once u have enough experience u have to do every abyss refless since u can outscore them

[eager smelt]

is that me

[crude cloak]

Once you have enough experience you become the one making the refs

[full trench]

[crude cloak]

I feel like I missed that part tho

[eager smelt]

wheres teammates ref

[arctic spoke]

[weak oracle]

something seems stupid.

[arctic spoke]

oh now i cant get 1-2 sp for vita from begin

[eager smelt]

u wont match my sp i have sp/s affix

[crude cloak]

Can't bring myself to make a non-slack run in RL

Hieu has multiple refs up anyway

[eager smelt]

but u can outscore them

[arctic spoke]

and i have atk for all

[neon narwhal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDizLdT3814&t=39s&pp=0gcJCcwJAYcqIYzv

13 mins, goodluck

[arctic spoke]

but still ur atk about 1400+ when my its 1330 brub,
and my hand bad

[plucky sinew]

will this comp help me in abyss? its been my main.. once i get hershierrr of sentience i can make another team comp of valkryie of quicksand, starry night imp and sentience for bleed comp

[full trench]

atk doesnt matter like i said ur overkilling

[eager smelt]

look at the disturbance diff

[full trench]

u need to do less damage not more

[arctic spoke]

[arctic spoke]

what is that

[full trench]

disturbance is the number that enemy health scales off of

[arctic spoke]

i cant recive stack from evade

[weak oracle]

well, apparently - affix-less sushang was to blame]

[keen atlas]

can i get 830 pkt in this abyss without teri astral op?

[eager smelt]

in rl yes
in nirvana no

[full trench]

why do ppl keep trying to fix their scores in the last 15 mins 😭 but yes u dont need teri for 830 below nirv

[arctic spoke]

i just want to be better

[keen atlas]

i was busy the whole weekend

[quasi pier]

last second mald is common

[eager smelt]

1 hour not enough for that

i feel so old i remember the time i spent 30 hours malding 1 cycle

[arctic spoke]

i have enough if i not up more than 32, bc if do i go in nirvana where i useles at all

[eager smelt]

now i can 1 tap and outscore everyone

[arctic spoke]

[keen atlas]

all the rotations i found were with teri astral op.. and im struggling to even get more than 800

[eager smelt]

just copy them but dont do the 2nd stellar shift

u should only go around -15 if ur playing it right

[weak oracle]

yep, affixes were to blame.

[full trench]

affixes did not give u 40 score

[weak oracle]

they did give her +100 atk.

[full trench]

oh u meant actually nothing

its still less important than that but yeah that much affixing is going to help

[arctic spoke]

i know but im about whole life

[plucky sinew]

whats misten shariacs best stigmatas? im currently running 2pc alexandra

[arctic spoke]

im just bad

[eager smelt]

this overkill is disgusting

i think u could kill p1 at 944

took too long to start basics and also to weapon on the wall

the evades arent necessary they are just an indicator on when the projectile hit long enough

[crude cloak]

3pc Alexandra

Or are you asking about copium options

[weak drum]

why did you skip the first sus hold atk tho

like just hold atk no wa

and you skipped vita’s qte too

[full trench]

i mean opener whichever sequence gives the highest points and kills is good u dont really need to follow general principles, as far as small things to increase damage you can evade/jump after sushang qte or do 1 basic before her combo atk

also you did wa on vita too early but its kinda moot since abyss finalized

[eager smelt]

skipping vitas qte is good it does no dmg

well actually they prob dont have ala equipped so

[full trench]

i mean they're on sig

i assume they're on sig

[weak drum]

it actually does something with sig yea

[eager smelt]

it goes from 2 point loss to 0 point loss