#👶beginner-help
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Is there a reason
more useful than anything in reserve
ty!
maybe if you have like hoo ranks but ur missing a stig it's justifiable
assuming hofi dkey
pause button -> exit
to navigate back to p1 story go to attack -> start -> story -> the moons origin and finality, then choose the chapter you were on
She has a key?
yes
new dkey Waxing Moon
not exactly "new" any more though but that's her new weapon instead of genesis
How do I get that ;-;
gacha
wat broke ur heart ches
imma assume you really like hofi so thats why you’re trying to get waxing
i watched a cat drop its ice cream
if you dont like hofi and is just trying to get decent stuffs then skip waxing and save for new releases instead
What do D keys do for my account
dk sync give passive atk. atm its around 180-200 atk if u have all dks. new dks also can help old valks to fit in p2 teams
+10 atk and some relevant dkeys actually makes the valk that uses it good (doesnt mean you should pull for it, also “good” compared to their very obviously old gear)
btw the +10 atk is for what people would consider “gacha” dkeys since they were only obtainable through gacha but thats not the case anymore (there’s a dkey in exchange shop that also gives 10 atk tho)
btw when i say relevant, its literally just hohe and hofi
just the 2
well p2 is 100% exclusive anyway. u cant effectively use one's gears on another
So get Fenhuang down?
sure, just get all the dkeys in bp if you havent gotten them
it doesnt really matter what dkey you go for (dont get sakura and uh that pink cross)
since none of them are actually usable in this day and age
might of an-utu and twins of eden you want to get first, the other two need a craftable dkey to give atk
i forger
#washed
i forgive u
@keen depot
-1 score prof exam
Ok I got Fenhuang down>_<
noo
its fine, you’re gonna have to get it anyways
just craft the foundry dkey needed for the atk
you would want to get utu and toe first because they immediately give you the 10 atk instead of having to craft more weapons for it
but its fine going against that
hi! i'm running a budget paws team rn (paws 4/4, vbm, vbs on glut/fhm) and i'm running into dps troubles in masters redlotus -- wondering if it'd be worth it to craft coralie's stigs for an extra damage bump or would it not be worth the source prisms? i've got 27 rn but i'm not sure what the upgrade costs will look like for next patch
also is it worth it to level pri-arms to 65? or is it better to save the mats to pri-arm other weapons?
worst case scenario i.e. you don't get any stigs before weapon would be 25 source prisms
I'm leaning towards the crafting since it is an immediate buff || and improves your RoO team with new Coralie next patch ||
If you know crafting it can help a retain go ahead otherwise playing the safe route just in case pulls don't go well is an option
If you're short on mats it'd be better to save and pri 8.4 valks weapon rather than dumping resources into helia pri, otherwise max pri both
ty!
this is pretty story related. Maybe redirect to the lore channel to post it there in the future
maybe remove the embed for now
Edit: oh i can do it
In the future please keep in mind the help channels are for gameplay and mechanics related guidance. This channel has a pretty strict no story policy (bottom of the pins) as we want to be mindful of other new players who may not have been exposed to such yet.
For similar questions maybe ask in #🎮honkai-chat or #📚honkai-lore or even #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
should I be concerned about the upcoming ||spending event||?
no, but if you are, what is it
do you want the exclusive costume from it?
spending events mostly are just bonuses. So old premiums that are more niche and slight improvements (elfs, maybe old valks or stamps) or extra resources
they're not something to really go out of your way for meta wise. Just enjoy their overlap with the new release banner for the most part
Best to think of spending events as a bonus, not a target
Its just fomo aura farming
Metawise speaking
so it shouldn't factor into my pulling decisions
Not really
Maybe 10%
90% pulling decision will still be on crystal count, account status, future valks, blah blah, and ofc ask us
I think I have the xtals for it but I wanted to see what 8.5 would have before deciding
is there somewhere I can see the list of rewards?
Mainly dkeys would be the primary target IF it doesn't affect your pulling decision to the worse
Same
Like for example. This happened to me in a previous spending event.
I wanted to get costume, but i got the valk and weapon in 30 rolls.
is that weapon synergy upgrade any good?
So obv because i wanted costume, i spent more.rolls in valk banner ez pz
You know what happned? I lacked crystals for the next patch
ok so if I end up wanting the 8.5 unit I shouldn't let the spending event screw me
I do have like 40 dorm tickets rn I think
Spending events only count up to 20 dorm rolls btw
Its to stop people from.hoarding like 50 dorm rolls across 8 patches or smth idk
well if I could spend all my dorm tickets that'd be like 210 tokens alone lol
Otherwise, ill just save up dorm rolls until anniv/cny them wham bam
i think the bigger idea is so you can't rely entirely on dorm tickets for spending event rewards lol
as for those Dkeys I assume they're all just useful to have
are any of them useful as actual weapons tho
anyway regarding
- dkey box. there's some stuff in here that isn't available from exchange, foundry, reserve shops. So you would prioritize those if you were to get this (brick, star of eden AE)
- synergy selector. note this does not let you get synergy for stellar keys iirc. the importance of synergy is usually marginal but can be significant for specific scenarios for specific goals (e.g. initial sp for arena strategies)
Not really, just gives global atk
yeah at the end of the day it's just 10 atk. If you want to contest in top meta eventually for the long term you'll value it
JUST 10?? JUST 10??? HOW DARE YOU. uwu jk
but don't go out of your way like spending crystals for a whole second dupe of a valk if you get lucky on your first copy just to reach that milestone
I feel attacked sai
I didnt spend it on valk banner, i spend it on teriOp banner!!! Didnt get her tho
how are you attacked if the example i gave is so deviant from your case lmao
Idk i just feel it ok. My feeling from you is just abrupt and spontaenous
i feel this whole process is ironically going wind up with a bear attacking me instead lol
i have no idea what the next valk synergy skill is like tbh. If you have a specific plan with it then maybe value it more. Otherwise a dkey is prob most widely applicable albeit possibley less exclusive and more available as time goes on??? Hard to say since xy sword has been notorius lol
If i have 4k weapon reso IF i'm right i should buy a dkey?
if you mean you dont have oath of judah then you could buy it
i did it rn
make sure to forge the sakura cross as well if you haven't already
Part of me says that r2 is temporary
Dkey is eternal
sorry, thank you for informing me 
The other part says costume
whats a duo interaction on the bridge?
I saw a post talking about it on hoyolab
how many and who can do these duo interections?
It's just when another character appears during a voiceline of your current bridge valk
The ones I know of are SN, HoR and MC/BB
MC and BB are special, they have solo mode and twin mode, in twin mode both Roza and Lili are always on the bridge
It's nothing special mechanics-wise
ooh
i just never knew it
found it interesting though
I mean MC and BB do have a duo ultimate but I think MC has to ult-
Oo congrats on prof
in today's meta, irrelevant
good source of elysian realm crystals though (like most older s ranks)

student become a teacher chat
It's not only ult, they have duo basics as well
Ofc both of them should be on the team
Gotcha
What's the fastest way to get about 1700 captain xp excluding BP xp
spending energy on expeditions could be an option
as expeditions also give crystals as first clear rewards
P1 story if you have any left (60 EXP per first clear of a non-OW stage)
Starter Manual missions
Thank you
hie! is there any list that shows the last couple characters (at least part2) release order?
thank you very much
That implies I ever learnt anything as a "student"
Everything I do is based off vibes
Feelscrafting 
is there somewhere i can check which pt1 characters i can lvlup as placeholders for now? i'm having lots of trouble trying to do the content with only robot helia and coralie
!faq fhm
I got this, Captain! 
Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!
[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!
ty!
RS Badum PAWS then
Nah, Vita's not good for RS
All the buffs are from QTE or ult
Stellar Drain and QTE refresh are from ult
Stellar Shift autocasts CA and allows you to do her flashy ult
Ah
To be completely fair I didn't compare them myself, but it should be the same as Flux Tank I assume
In the opener ye
Otherwise just QTE is enough if you don't need Stellar Drain and/or QTE refresh
I think PAWS DPS is still worth trying tho
Badum HoHE supps
Lemme actually do it myself
Hmm
Verdict?
A very slacc PAWS run alr got 742 with DS, but it's defo improvable
Yeah, you probs can do like 770+
The dist gap shouldn't matter much, dkeys + I overkill anyway
@slim blaze do you have Teri AO?
No
But i do have teririop at home
770 without sus at sea RL D? You sure?
I think I've lost a ton of pts in the transition
And as I've said, I overkill by a lot
760 is probs a better estimate if you wanna err on the slacker side
(which Berw is)
Berw also has 4* Kia I assume
Spam basic or spam ult
Yeah, transition without PS is ass
The 2nd ult hits two clones tho
Well, you do need to refresh your multihit state with ults
Without sus
~~Surely D difd isnt that big
You are 10D more
Than NA?
EU and NA are at about the same dist in RL
Often exactly the same
Waiting for Berw's 780
Normally not
ig we won't know the SEA RL score unless @autumn oxide decides to check himself
(assuming he's in RL in the first place ofc)
770 need god transition but I don't really see a way for a fast transition with paws yet
How many pts did u lose to transition
Didn't check tbh
But I'm 100% sure it wasn't optimal
Ult2 is very good
Others are meh
Ult finisher is the best
Or maybe if Hieu wakes up and makes a non-PS ref
Oh really?
Or unless Berw decides to do a mald sesh of his lifetime

Pass
I rather mald irl
Actual money
Its 4am and im awake nice
Very nice
I don't see you ranking up valks
he doesnt like both
Ofc you need dodge + evade
Aa dodge aa dodge
Just mentioned cuz it might not be obvious to Berw
mimi mitsu has a paws run
so now that i'm at a player level where i actually have to Try in the abyss thing
if i want to try for a better score later am I able to try again from stage ten/the main boss or does your performance on the previous stages contribute to your score in any way?
821 s0 s2 s0 ps lp pa s teri
Meant PSless PAWS DPS
so I do have to do them all again? wait you deleted
Either DS or Kia
im not maso
only last stage count for competitive purpose
previous stages give constant score. if u pass, u get x score
The previous stages do contribute, but just clearing them is enough (they give 6k pts each)
The tryharding is in the boss stage
725++ at almost 530D? Not bad
so so long as i beat them already this round (I mean, i had to to make it to benares), I don't need to fiddle with them again, it's all about how fast I can do the boss?
Yes
this round
and yes only can redo the boss. once u passed, u cant go back even if u want
@upbeat egret
its huge
sea im 821, na im 840
sea has s2 vita s teri, na is full s0 ss teri
if i had ss teri on sea i think i can 830 with 2 SO run; na isnt even close to being tanky enough to do the 2 SO run
Rl
^
haha bad
We are not the same
u can cope and say that r2 kiana made the diff 
but yeah 8d diff is massive
even 4d is alr relatively big
R2 kiana made all the differrnce
Isnt it 12D diff
oh i thought we 520 for some reason, we 516 lel
What did you get
im nirv i sleep
HAHA
Yeah but did someone get 770 at 516D?
is there a guide for the life sim event? (specifically to get to 900 total)
Get both of the wandering items, click as many wandering as possible. You can get a bit more by looking in the gameplay help channel
At the first pin, and prioritizing ones that give items on your path
But most of it is the boost items
ty
Hey on the right track. 730 rn
Need to mald trans phase
I finish phase 1 at 905
770 go
Fok
can't spell dewit without wit. time to apply some of your own go go go
Actually
Based on current scores.
Not worth balding t3
760 needed
I need to god mode the transition
Ps less behaviou3mr
i have no idea what this sentence means. i'm struggling to determine if you're saying ps as a follow up note or as referring to sushang lol
yeah transition is pretty annoying esp if you're going after umbrella throw extensions
if you're willing to settle with just portioning weapon actives throughout then it's not too bad but it is slower
Oh. No sushang life sorry
oh i see now lol
Yes
I haven't played in more than two years, if I get all 5 stamps how can I get more to rank up my valks?
Will they refresh one day?
Most old valks have fragments in War Treasury for ranking with some having stamps in ER shop and Pure Witch Orb Shop. If this is asking for HoO specifically she has stamps in ER (I forgot whether she is in PWO)
not sure if the reserve works resets
Understood
I like collecting more than focusing on meta so I'm trying to get all the old valk(the one in the dorm are more difficult for me)
I also discovered after years that Hohe is OP in every difficulty in ER
current patch has "variable arms" buff thats made every valk have fast clear times
so if you have any targets to unlock ER stamps with nows the time
I should try with Hoo
I got confused-
Can is still clear with HoS? (old gear 3/4 I miss Raksha t)
Current patch. Variablr arms build = anyone 0/4 valk can clear
She is in PWO, can get up to 8 stamps there
Hella expensive ofc
Path of wishes?
Is van Gogh good for SI too? I have CE 4/4
pure witch orb
Jk nvm its LOW xd
I remember getting these two copies but I never salvaged them
Not pow
i got confused
Same
What is LOW?
A very old thing that dorsnt exist
Okay...
The opposite of high
Oke...
Sure why not
Nice
I also found her weapon once (I miss and not miss the old gear banner)
I'm saving for Finality (gear)Origin (gear) and Badum Kiana
This is for er right?
I couldn't get brick when it came out the first time( I regret my decision to this day)
Yep I still use my old physical team (Horb, TA and Hos)
I'm ranking up whenever I can
The trick is to get different flame.chaser signets. The more the merrier
Which elysia's signets are better?
I was trying to check old guide but I don't have Dirac
I only need to do Inferno but I remember failing with HoS
Pick this and let the magic begin
No need for any stigmata
U see the red text? PASSIVE DAMAGE
Okay
Btw will they add Seven thunder in any of the shops? I WANT IT SO BAD
I'm collecting all the divine keys ;-;
||It'll be added to Reserve BP next patch||
FINALLY
||There also will be a box with dkeys in the spending event||
||But there are some better options if 7T is not the only dkey you don't have yet||
Good to know
Btw I'm starting hoarding pardo's signet, more coins more signet
gg
you don't get weapons by tuning, you tune existing divine keys that you already own to enable their global stat buff
current source for divine keys is the basic 5 from Realms of Battle with another 4 in reserve bp shop barring any stellar key reruns in the future
outside of stellar keys none of the dkeys are useful beyond the global buff (or marginal stat stick use) so it's just a pick as you like
Also coralie weapon is free from early p2 story so I suggest doing that at least
There also are craftable dkeys, but there's no point in making them until you get their limited counterparts, which are only available in BP (as Star mentioned) and events (except Oath of Judah, it can be bought from Exchange Shop)
UWOOOOOO

Abyss finalization day 
I really don't feel like doing abyss today

hey gang I’m playing chapter 11 and are you meant to go from 11-6 to World 1 or are you meant to go straight to 11-7
is it possible to lower the q-manifold difficulty? my robot helia is not able to clear it all 🙁
Only by failing to meet the requirements to maintain
You could try levelling her up, or upgrading her gear or stigmas, or getting her better teammates / rotations
But there’s no easy way to reduce difficult without bricking at least once
it’s the myriad sea chapter btw it looks like this
i am going to have nightmares about the lost crystals
any team recommendation for my helia?
Paws Coralie Boltstorm
Rotation should look like start:
2x WA coralie, jump attack wa coralie,
switch to boltstorm,
wa-hold until it crosses the line, wa again, wa again to trigger paws qte
Switch to paws, go nuts with 3x ult into combo attack
Switch back to coralie, jump attack weapon active
Switch into boltstorm, wa until bar, back into paws
That’ll mean paws spends less time on the field but she’ll do more damage when she’s there, especially if you load them up with support stigmas like fu hua m
what do i do about gathering the big robots? they keep being left behind when doing their shield/charge stuff
I don't have it to test, I have superstring dimension unlocked, but you could try sticking with coralie for a bit, she has some gather on her wa
you could extend the example rot by a bit to fit in some was to gather them
I don't know if it would be enough but it might be
whats superstring dimension
what is the rotation for dea anchoras team in the character trials? AE and VKE
Dumb question, does the ice down mean that this boss has lower Ice res, or does it mean that ice attacks have lower effectiveness against it?
means ice is weaker against it
gotcha thank you! I was confused by it saying "recommended"
it recommends you dont use ice 
I thought it was "Ice res is low, so recommended to use Ice" 
"dont use thelema"
it was also because the other boss is ice res, so I wasnt sure if it was double ice res bosses
"we know you want to"
hohe simps go that way ->
this is bullying against newbie accounts running the free hohe
"free" hohe is behind a $15 paywall rn
and either way those players who got her for free would have other units available rn
😔 hohe tax
I'll try solo coralie with a RC supp maybe 
is vke holding blood dance in that team
if so it's basically ae sp grind, ae ult, vke wa, da dps
and DA should be the leader of the team right?
yeah
thank you
which characters i put as a leader? and when do i activate astra ring in this rotation?
Paws
You’ll want to activate astral ring after boltstorm does her part of the rotation, since that way her buff to lightning damage will be up
But if you’re about to use the astral ring you can skip coralie that cycle because astral ring automatically puts her buffs up
You will have to SP farm while astral ring is up in order to get the paws 3x ults but it is doable in time
As long as you ult as soon as it’s available and use evades
So I have a question I used to play the game a lot more a few years back and now that I downloaded it this time with my steam profile I’m not able to log in with my old account. Is there a way I can do that or do I just have to start a new save?
Did you have a Hoyoverse account before?
You should still be able to use it
Tho from a meta perspective a new account might get you better results
Welcome back!
thanks!
Thank you!
You are welcome
Got it
steams accounts are fully saperate from your hoyo account and i'd rather advise you to play it through the normal launcher tbh
not wanting to impose too much on you, but how did you get that rotation? is it like staple or is there a way to calculate that? like how would i get to this in other compositions
What is best team for this boss?
FWS and PAWS?
vita paws
oh
mb. i dont send me valk.
But why VITA and PAWS?
vita bc she has breach and paws bc she does good damage
We get breach as buff after ult right?
About paws not sure i undestadn bc We use PS as Dmg no?
kill p1 > evade into ba3 for trans > SO in p2, u have to adjust rotation for ur damage anyway
yeah its breach on ult, for paws more damage still kills the boss faster
oh, gues i not undestadn sry "ba3 for trans"
evading shortcuts to ba3 which is the umbrella move, it does a lot of hc
To understand how to rotate with other comps you need to check what the DPS's attacks do damage-wise and utility-wise, and what supports need to do to apply their buffs and their utility (if any)
For that you need to read the kits
That's if you wanna cook up the rotation from the ground up
oh that move where we do 2 eveade for bar?
Otherwise you can check the in-game tutorials (for very baseline rots), guides on Hoyolab for smth more advanced (Cayjunn makes good ones) and runs vs bosses on YT/bilibili for the most optimized runs (the last ones are very unlikely to use non-BiS teams)
Asking here helps too ofc, especially with very copium comps like the one you were discussing
not sure what you mean by this, the bar that lets you do her hold atk?
you just do the ba3 repeatedly after evading their attacks
m yes?
ba3 - dosent bar?
it does you just dont use the hold atk in transition
sry, but can u record it or send with that move
evade any atk > press basic
in "transition" u mean phase that going after p1 and before p2?
yeah when she summons the clones with hc shields
#💁gameplay-help message have a look at around 0:40
that what we name ba3?
its ba3 because its the 3rd hit of her basic string, evasion just shortcuts to it
oh that one hard for me/
it's a bit hard at first but once you get the hang of it it's alright, otherwise you can also use ur WA and extend it's duration by evading
well, as i undestand there u need dont use WA
so i cant also.
Or idk
and i overkilling and cant evade it with empy bar
try do something like u send
but i dont do it perfect
looks good just the swap to vita was a bit unnecessary any specific reason why you did that ?
if asaphie did it i regress~~ maybe i should watch refs more closely when linking them ~~
asaphie had qte up from doing wa and you didn't, that's why it didn't work for you
so, after i kill 3rd, i need press WA and then swap on vita?
score should be higher than that even if you messed up somewhere
are you missing dmg
as i though
Lamp has fire resistant
i can send vedeo
not sure if i cant send it wiothg YT
I don't think you'll manage to upload to YT in time
guess my comrade jsut slacking a little
u mean beofre time is up for Abyss?
Yes
from what i've seen your p1 is probably the problem
finishing with her enchaned WA after CA just delayed transition and you could prob do another rotation to avoid it
you also overkilled by a lot
thanks!
if i not do CA with bar then how, can i get evade+basick?
i mean bar isnt empty so it not proke?
you can do that no matter how full the bar is
EU about to enter finalization
abyss closed? shit I forgot to do boss floor xd
ainoway
I was gonna promo to nirv anyways, I saved myself a bit of sanity
this discord full of slackers 
Melee HoC
Helia time y'all 
no shit its a gacha game discord
but man this paws shill making me feel all kinds of annoyed
is fws even much worse
just 2 more weathers 😔
her real shil hasnt even begun yet
we all know that's next patch
😭
I got 10 pity left on chara and weapon, and 10 pity left on astral op
surely I can go paws-less next patch
|| paws in cora teams
||
Oh god next patch 

actually could you enlighten me a bit, I only saw her animations and the new ao
well, gues i not catch with WA, or i just delete it
|| cora is good helia support and helias new passive makes her a cora support , though cora's leader skills also wants 3/3 RoO so it's boss dependent if cora + paws + idk who is the BiS RoO here i suppose vita, or cora + hofi + vita ||
|| RoO weather was also adjusted to fit 2/3 RoO teams ||
why in niravan?
Anything works in rl
i doubt that both options will have a huge gap
People have hands and the proper teams in nirb
cuz nirvana is BiS or demot most of the time
Nirvana is hell pretty much 
for some it's heaven 
Quite the opposite of its name to say the least
huh seems like i didnt do MA last week
can only lite until 4/6 kek
Im just gonna do what I do best and cope my way through the next few patches
oh so i get sentecnse ur not right sry
Did I forget ma too? Or is it a bug
i though u say nirv is more easy
Because i could've sworn I did it
Idk sampo and smth
apopo
Shampoo
Apo
Alien
Sambo
im gonna have to sandbag my score this next cycle this is so cringe
can i terrible u
?
what

sry i mean bother
thougt is same , not do "scary u"
English is a funny language
It's a broken and silly language 
well, i have same "short" (not sure i can say it like it) record, and plaining to montage them together.
there no one full how that named, full movie for clear that stage.
So i just want to know where i have terrible miss, or overdo probably(like overkiliing)
mostly when u dont know it
u mean for next cycle?
sure ig, i dont know how useful it would be though
i too but maybe it will usefull for next lantern, or just usefull, if it not much trouble
true
just in previous, if i coretly remeber, we use FWS, probally confuse with MA
no you didn't confuse it with MA, paws just wasn't out
should new players full contribute to armada, or save resources until the highest daily mat farm is unlocked? Also, can you (and should you) save armada contribution across multiple days to increase chance of good rewards, or do you need to claim daily?
I wouldn’t contribute anything to an armada I couldn’t do cheaply, Ranger creds are useful but if you buy the dorm tickets every month there’s not a ton you’re missing out on
Donate mats you have but aren’t using, mats you can cheaply buy with coins, or the like for commissions
You’ll still have enough credits to request a steady stream of stuff from the warehouse
so, in that cycle (without PAWS) i dont undestand how to deal with boss, mostly probably my problem was with prephase or what that word, we should use Transition(?)
Also can i ping u later?
And what ur time in world, i can ping in evnening for not make trouble or smth like this.
you can ping me whenever, if i'm not around to reply i just wont
i mean transition doesnt really change much you still do the sushang evade thing and vita qte, in terms of dmg you prob need to do some extra attacks in p1 and p2 since you're missing paws dmg
but it shouldnt be that huge of a gap afaik fws buffs are still slightly better
but generally the boss doesnt change that much you just replace things you'd do with paws with fws
if you're missing damage you can jump after sushang qte, basic 1 before hold atk, do vita heavenly link, or any combination of those
you can also do a aerial basic after WA 2 in SO but that's an extremly small amount of dmg
really only usefull if you're missing a sliver of hp
u about vita?
Sry hard to truck what we about talking in such huge text
nah that's about PS
ok then wa 2 it waht?
waht is heavy link?
it does extra damage that scales off of the leader's stats
it's probably mentioned in the loa tutorial
but idk
LoA?
Law of Ascension it's a astral rign type
In this?
probably
check it later then thanks
i mean the mechanic is pretty straightforward
it just does extra damage
and gives ari but thats not important for what we're talking about
ari?
astral ring intensity
Energy for astral?
yeah
oh, that why ari
Yeah Flux Lantern came around same patch as PS
Which that used FWS before PAWS was existent
does it matter what i upgrade and in which order or whats a recommended build i guess
It shouldn't matter too much as long as you prioritize offensive stats
There aren't any specific builds afaik cuz the trial valks are more than good enough for most (if not all) purposes
Upgrading the thing on the right is defo helpful though
Are there any farmable valks I should be prepping for ||dragon coralie|| ? new player, so I don't have any meta stuff.
||i guess coralie + cn, not sure that any other p1 valks would be better||
||If you manage to get PAWS + her weapon you won't need CN||
But it's best if you keep 60 pulls in the tank while trying to get PAWS herself
(you don't want to have a weapless valk)
||Actually, @frozen crypt, what do you think about getting SS CN for 8.4
Not everyone will manage to get PAWS atp||
Also I think you forgot to update the pulling pin, we're in week 5 alr 
Wtf ss cn
In the big 25
I mean, why not, I don't think there should be too many issues with Asterite
Ofc there is RC, it depends on how much better CN is atp
Though getting her to SS does take a while 
ig it's worth only if you start doing it rn
I also forgot that this patch is 8 weeks, not 9 
What comes up at SS? I thought the tdam boost was at S
Ah ic
i won't bother with cn
no gear no team not even good cope
the skill looks good but no weap u can't even cycle
if cn for ma then no point cuz is just 3 loa in the future atp
brute force wise
if cn for abyss then lel
Hmm does the RC chakram let you cope enough… prolly not
to me at least i wouldn't becuz it doesn't seem to do anything meaningful in my standards which isnt even high ig
but idk if u plenty asterites then go for it ig
Well I have her at A already so it’s a question of if I invest ranks
how's dorm
26
rc ta already ss?
could s a bunch of random units i see
Yeah
r u doing expedition btw
Coralie has been sucking up most of my asterite
I’ve been expeditioning to unlock people but I don’t really have the stamina to go for ranks
At any timely speed
that's fine, just going for the frags is prob best choice doesn't matter who
it used to be that going for NS is a priority
but man thats too old

all the 12 stamina ones should be the same
oh yea, apparently the stamina cost diff yields different number of frags but idk
I’ve been trying to keep track of numbers for my own grinding since apparently nobody else has done it but even for high stamina nodes the non pity drop rate is really low
Like 20-30%
perhaps somebody did it in the past but like the valks that the frags unlock are not meaningful themselves so if you can't find resources on it thats expected
Well I couldn’t find drop rates for anything in this game
If you’re trying to figure out stamina efficiency it’s basically anyone’s guess as far as I can tell
Wdym by that
don't u need weap to cycle, or is it that u can still weap 3 times immediately after qte, or am i misremembering
The only thing I've heard about is that spending 36 stamina guarantees at least 1 frag
but the time taken to do it and the benefit is questionable anyhow
Doesn't CN use her own WA regardless of what weap she has equipped
I've been using her like that in the past (cuz I had to)
Same with other Chakram users afaik
so u get to weap immediately 3 times or
Yes
or u have to ca to weap
No
k thats just a matter of if the time needed to do the buff justified it then
If that was the case she wouldn't even be a thought 
But yeah, gotta compare stuff properly in beta ideally
i do still doubt she be meaningful
i mean it's not about her being good it's about the alternatives being worse
except maybe rc tbh i dont know what she does besides 30% tdt
Not much afaik
RC is good cuz she's hella cheap
While for CN SS is pretty much a must
Well, ||Coralie has her own Ignite||
I think you're right, I didn't consider that CN takes 5 business days to apply her buffs 
right so she has no value for ignite if u need it
the thing about cn is that her ignite is not quite good enough if u want to use it for cope option against sss ma lel
It depends on how much she can buff without her gear then
if u dont have the gear
Compared to RC
rc has a lot more tdm
Are there specific adventure tasks that can drop coralie and helia fragments? Or is it just a randomized possibility everywhere?
randomized, for valks u alr sss'd they wont appear, but yeah
Is there anything good I could get from Reserve works? I'm missing Griseo's weapon and lot of my valks don't have their stigs 😦
the most valuable items in the reserve works are dkeys that provide permanent value to your account which should be the priority
anything else is up to the player really 
Ah so I should get Abyss flower instead
I already have the flower
any of the dkeys you dont have yes, keep in mind if you get abyss flower you need to craft abyss from foundry
same applies to fhd, you need to craft pinions in foundry with it
they all provide buffs, its just that to get these buff you need to sync your dkeys (if its not the only one in its group or a stellar key)
abyss flower and fenghuang down need their foundry counterpart to sync
farmable, no reason to get it from bp as crystallums are limited
check priority #2-4 here
Ah okay! Thank you so much
np
One last question: Was I supposed to upgrade it to Pri arm first before tuning it?
you need to tune it before you can pri arm it the message is a bit misleading
though there isnt really any reason to pri arm it since it doesnt really see any use these days
is senadina deepspace anchor better than hov
did you get her from the starter banner or battle pass per chance?
if you didn't get her yet then don't bother, she's still used and more used than hov but she's too old now
hov is perfectly fine for early game but you'll drop her later
i got her from starter banner
my main team has hov, azure empyrea, theresa celestial hymn (all S tier)
sometimes i switch to durandal valkyrie gloria bc shes S+
i grinded for some astral ring fragments and i got helia and coralie
did you pull a lot for sena perchance?
not gonna change much but if you did spend a lot of crystals then she isn't worth spending that much on her rn
but its ok
add a rank helia and a rank coralie to her team
i know this will sound sudden but i would suggest starting new, those 60 pity could have gone to the branf new character with wayyy higher value but it's okay not the end of the world
yeah, the game isn't about the valk's rank but about their release time in general, also their mechanics
Coralie is the best f2p option, she can be used with a lot of part 2 characters because she can provide some support to all of them, she's only bis with vita right now but her versatility is worth it especially for beginners
unfortunately a rank helia is very niche but still a good beginner option for people especially if you have a world star or/and lighting valk
dont they start with 90? so i only spent abt 3 10x pulls, but i do think starting a new acc would be better
this is a guide for characters for beginner teams, you also have the option to play sena + Coralie + a rank helia as well but the story will mostly restrict you to part 1 characters and trials
oh so you actually spent 30 pulls? personally i would still restart anyways
you can reroll if you're into that
will give you a good boost but it will come at the cost of redoing the first part to try your luck
the first link is still relevant btw, ignore herrscher of human if you're not getting her from beginner rush
if i do start over, do i just save the crystals for a better valk? and stick on the free valks the game is giving me
if you want a faq about reroll lmk
yeah
the battlesuit supply is damn expensive 😭
it and the equipment supply is the only supplies you wanna spend on, dw beginners have a high income you just need to take your time and progress
if you keep being active you'll continue to have a good income and keep on getting the relevant valks
STARTER SUPPLY IS A SCAM
it is
unfortunately this game does have a high tenancy to bait people
so i would suggest asking here first to make sure :)
u can get all those for free right
mhm!
a lot of the characters in that list are from a shop called asterite shop that doesn't need crystals
and jade knight can be obtained from the beginning manual and even another shop that doesn't use crystals called war treasury
its alright, some people have been left in the dark for years so it's good to manage to know earlier 
just so that i don't overwhelm you with a lot of guides, take your time to view the wall of guides (pin in this channel) as it will answer a lot of questions you may have :)
ofc u can also ask here! esp if what you're looking for isn't mentioned or you don't understand
is there a way to reset the data of this account, bc it kinda tickles my brain making an alt email as my main
no not as far as i know, the only way to delete tt account is by deleting the hoyoverse account itself, you can use salting tho
salt?
basically add a . to your email and the messages will still be attached to your main email
you'll still need to have another hoyoverse account if you don't wfna delete the other one tho
the first part is when you wanna make a new account with hi3 btw
there's also adding numbers like +1 and +2 but i didn't personally try that
had the account been under captain level 14 (or maybe slightly lower?) then cs can delete the account
but i know this isn't your current case
im captain level 59
i see yeah, unfortunately there isn't a way to move or delete the account
no it isn't really
want a video guide? maybe a visual indicator can help
but obv if you alr have another email that you use then you can use it if you wanna
or if you're perfectly fine with making a new one
up to u
i got another email dww, thanks tho❤️🩹
also is there a referral thing
so i get rewards for playing that alt

i don't think there's something like that
can you explain a bit?
no i have not heard of such a thing in this game
there's no extra benefits from making an alt, you would only do that for your own personal reasons
🎁 1. For the New Player (You)
When you enter someone’s referral code, you usually get:
Free rewards (gems, premium currency, in-game items, etc.)
Sometimes a boost for early progression
💬 2. For the Referrer (Your Friend or the Code Owner)
When you use their code, they may get:
Referral points
Free items
Bonuses like microchips, premium units, or silver
It encourages people to invite others to play the game.
chatgpt
oh there's invite code
it gives you crystals
lemme see if i can log it to show a picture
oh from the bonuses
basically if you give your code to a newbie or returnee and they use it and do an extra task, you get free crystals
you probably saw the ingame chat filled with codes before, these are the invite codes
theres also the mentor and apprentice thing right
yeah
the sensei and cadet system
you absolutely wanna be someone's cadet
the rewards are worth it
do both get rewards?
Xtals 
you don't even need to talk to the sensei either
the senseis do but their rewards are.... meh
the cadets gets the better piece of the cake 
^
yeah, do you need an invite code and/or sensei 

regardless its still good and rn you can take advantage of it
im starting an alt and using my main for that :p
damn
anyways this is an extra if you're interested: if you don't want your main account to be left unused you can try to take a bit of advantage of it
like letting it use your invite code
or have it be your future cadet sensei based on which account you'll get to level 80+ first
oh actually i found a way for the alt thing.
i used my google account for my main, and used my hoyoverse account which share the same email
but there isn't a shortage of people that need invite codes (ok maybe a bit lol) or want a cadet/sensei so this is optional
hmm im not sure how would that work in the future but knowing that ur alt is using the hoyo account is good news
I'm max on invite codes
But getting active cadets is not the easiest 
true
do u have cadets on u
you're in na so i can't add you
I'm NA though 
use #🇪🇺-cadet-recruit or if you have a friend let them add you
go on, get it 
she helped me when nobody else was there 


pretty sure my cadets are asleep but i won't bother kicking them until i find someone that wants a sensei
just incase there's that one of a blue moon chance that my cadets are active again 
108754074
My uid
Didn't give my invite code since I'm maxed on that 
Plus I'm out of cadets
recent enough? maybe not
anyways not gonna start going off topic 
that's not bad
the other hasn't log it since may so lol
to be fair most unis would be in their summer semesters right now, so time could be an issue
fair
Don't have time to play game 
the sensei rewards can help me a bit but honestly idc my cadets can enjoy themselves 
is that the last time a cadet has logged back in?

yeah that's one of my cadets
Since March?
Sheesh
Idk whether to be impressed or sad that they quit just before graduation
but either way I lost hope in cadets being active
ill only be motivated if i could get crystals or pulls from being a sensei, i do usually run out from other mats but i recover quickly enough to care
I just wanna buy that 1 last ncc
the newbie tutorial pmo
having any trouble?
fair enough, its long, repetitive and overall boring
dw its a matter of time and u won't even remember it 
didnt they have bikini skins here 😭
oh for fucks sake
yeah
why they all gone
still in the game, but some of them that are more revealing are unable to be obtained anymore
something something game regulations in cn
i haven't finished the life simulator
i don't even know if i should just click anything or if there's a strategic way to do it faster
I just did it twice and called it a day
lmao
lol its okay you still have until 21 aug
pvz event?
at least the stages don't have time gate just do it before its over for the rewards
there's an event right now that follows the plants vs zombie style of gameplay (lane defense)
oh the kiana with the green hoodie event thingy
yeah
it will be permanent but there are limited rewards
to get all the rewards you still have 20 days to finish it
permanent?
a single day is enough to finish it 
yeah, you can play this event at any time
it gets boring 😭
there are a few p2 events (non-story events) that become permanent events accessible whenever
Its a permanent event, but theres limited rewards on first release
cycle between hot on the trail, captainverse and golden courtyard for a few years and all events feel "new and refreshing"
This looks smaller than I remember-
you can view all the permanent events here
ohh that
its fine, if you just wanna do it for the rewards its very quick
i wondered why they looked like events
there are also chronicles if you click this and click the top right icon
all give you crystals so do finish them when u can
yea those
unfortunately limited rewards like outfits can't be obtained again after their duration
well you'll have to wait a long time until they show up in a shop called time capsule though
what does the master shop sell
is there a specific currency it uses
i never got to lvl 61
honkai shards, ae imaginon, ncc, sc metal, basically basic stuff that can help with leveling up stuff for valks, there's also hoho tickets and some furniture items
no fragments?💔
they gain some relevancy for old players that are a bit short of finishing their valks but nothing dire
nope
now that im starting off new, it makes me think if i should just switch to star rail
i mean... that's up to you, but i can assure you that beginners have an advantage to this game, but its up to you and how attached you are to this game or how patient are you with progressing
at the end of the day, play what you really wanna play
is schiksal ottos company?
tbh if you wanna get a detailed answer i would consider #📚honkai-lore but beware of spoilers
either way story discussion in the help channels is not permitted 
cant find it
different server
ah maybe im on asian server. i see alot of asian names
u re NA server
were both supposed to be on NA, but im on asian server lol
oh so you're in sea?
must be bc my email is from asia
sea is red color
is your client honkai impact 3 or honkai impact 3rd
its the choice u made when u dl&instal
honkai impact 3
make sure that u add the right server roles to ur user so ppl in this server knows
thats sea
if 3 then u in sea

i wondered why one has 3 and the other has 3rd
😭 bruh
sea is more competitive so maybe good or bad
or redownload client and select glb setup this time
yea alot chat on global chat
in english or another language?
u can use the same acc but be on different servers if that's to ur liking
both 😭
eng is default
tbh you don't need to care about the global chat at all
well, you can grab a red packet if you see one
the viets chat often
okay that makes sense
there are red packets every hour
wait no. if u dl it from ggplay it will follow the country language
it gives some coins or asterites, its nice
if i download the global version, i would start over again right
we have those too in EU just check room 1 in high times
yes its different server u start with new character ofc
yeah, ping also doesn't affect abyss so really if you dont want to you shouldnt
yeah accounts dont carry over multiple regions
if u alr have an eu or na acc, no, if you don't, yeah
huh?
assuming ur doing that on ur alt, since ur na acc is on main, you'll start new
that sounds confusing, eu and na are still separate regions
oh no i didn't mean that lol
i meant if they alr had progress on that acc on either na or eu then it will send you there but if you don't then you'll start new
since u can't transfer progress from different accounts or servers
but you can't delete your progress either
Is story progression the best tip for beginners in this game and then save for a meta character to progress easier?
beginner manual is
There's not much that you can do other than story when you're super new, yes, but more generally just check Account Progression Pointers in the pins
Keep in mind that pulling chars is not for story, you're locked to trial chars starting from Chapter 7 of Part 1 story
Chars are for Abyss (Q-Manifold/Superstring Dimension), Memorial Arena and Elysian Realm
Where can i fijd this manual? Im seeing lots of guides theelre
Starter Manual is the book in the bottom middle of the main menu
Do you not have it? It should've appeared right after the tutorial
Oh, the guide is in game?
the starter manual is not a guide but like a newbie questbook. u get reward when u complete its missions
only last 90 days or so
What are you referring to by "manual" and "guides" here?
By "manual" we mean Starter Manual, which is this
The guides we recommend are in the pins here
still functions as a guide, it helps players interact with nearly every menu in the game
Should i spend crystals on beginner banner or not?
short answer: no
Okay, thanks!
there's a faq in the pins that goes over the reasoning if you want to read that
you only want to use crystals in the battlesuit and equipment supply, dorm supply have its own tickets that you can use whenever you get it
although for the former dont just pull for any valk or gear you see there, ideally you wanna pull the debut valk
#👶beginner-help message for reference
By the way, where can i find the missions thingy here
which mission thing exactly? looking for the beginner manual?
Yeah, the one in game
I dont see anything here





