👶beginner-help

[spiral badge]

hoyo is very very arbitrary with the game and logic doesn't necessarily apply for future developments

[sweet flax]

also this is assuming they plan to release a dkey soon and not put us in another dkey drought

you gotta weigh a lot of things

too much speculation that by the end of it honkai part 3 will be announced

[spiral badge]

yeah we have no real news of an upcoming dkey yet. this is all extreme speculation

i did entertain some speculation in my spending event guide but only as a precaution if it's already within reasonable reach

in this case bacon, we're paying these speculations with crystals. it's not reasonable lol

[naive pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/941242872756318248/1236175512364122112/cat-nod.gif

[sweet flax]

ye but that speculation came at no cost (wait I didnt see the message under it)

[spiral badge]

anyway that's just looking at all this as logically as i can put it but nothing wrong with still going for it if you got other sentimental reasons and/or understand the trade offs

[boreal prism]

Is these any way to change this character?

[sweet flax]

click this until it turns white

[spiral badge]

!faq bridge

[small willow]

**How to change Valkyrie on the bridge?**

[spiral badge]

anyway i'll hop off for now again. if you still got other contemplations feel free to bring them up bacon

[sweet flax]

cant wait to see you in another 10 minutes

[spiral badge]

psy seele is already a conflict in logic (fits herrschers but doesn't fit seele) depending on how you want to look at it

[spiral badge]

yeah... haha

hopefully i stay productive

[sweet flax]

horb dkey turns her quantum surely

[spiral badge]

they should add one salty fish or w/e to the dkey menu

so the phrase tune your tuna can exist

[sweet flax]

I think its time you get some sleep

[naive pivot]

now that I think about it I could have the full p1 horbius with dudu since I can just buy senti stigmas

at that point it would probably just be sentimental because I really like seele but have never been able to make a complete team with her since TA where

[sweet flax]

I mean sure, but how often would you be using p1 physical

and stigmata resonance if not actively being converted takes weeks to get even 1 stigma from exchange shop

[naive pivot]

i mean I've already got the reso

it's just been sitting there for like a year

[sweet flax]

its your decision how to go forward, i'd advise against it, check again with what me and sairaan mentioned earlier before making this decision

if you still want to go forward be prepared at least

[naive pivot]

👍

[spiral badge]

i do think it can be important to pursue sentimental goals and not meta slave if you don't enjoy it

but at that point also explore if you can get your fix of that satisfaction with tutorial trial teams or some lesser team you already can build or better afford

[inner bronze]

best affixes for RS?

[sweet flax]

2 cdmg 4 atk iirc

[inner bronze]

RS badum jds or RS vita jds better for this abyss?

[naive pivot]

i mean do either of those teams even have stun

[inner bronze]

no but i dont have any better opts

[spiral badge]

i thought RS has stun. maybe review her kit

[lilac reef]

She does

[spiral badge]

https://youtu.be/eUGzjeObtbo?feature=shared&t=29

[lilac reef]

top scoring team is still HoS, HoRb, dudu right?

[spiral badge]

i believe so

[naive pivot]

ok i did the thing

so does she just want attack affixes like usual or does she like crit sometimes too since physical

[haughty elbow]

atk

[naive pivot]

oh cool because i just got a natural 23 attack reroll

oh and a 22.6

thanks RNGesus

[prisma fiber]

Is Small dudu's bis Sparkle n SQ?

[naive pivot]

well i hope not because i have no sparkle

[spiral badge]

there's not really going to be an absolute general BiS

but i posted a video above that explores several team combinations for this weather

abyss weathers in hi3 can vary that absolute best teams can vary depending on the scenario

[haughty elbow]

i dont think there has been a cycle where thats the best team
maybe this one idk

prob not

[naive pivot]

wait is brick with horbius leader a thing or something, why are some of the people in my myriad doing that

[coarse owl]

Hey is it worth it to get that Elysia skin thats out?

[quick birch]

thats something you have to determine yourself, from a meta perspective the skin brings no actual combat value and 7680 are a big amount of crystals especially for f2ps

[haughty elbow]

skins dont improve performance

[coarse owl]

Ah okay thanks

[coarse owl]

Crystals weren’t an issue I was just wondering if it gave performance upgrades

[naive pivot]

it makes me want to perform better because my character is even more pretty than before

[haughty elbow]

but u dont mald even when its a horb cycle

[naive pivot]

probably because until just now i didn't have the proper team for her to even make it worth malding

[haughty elbow]

surely

[naive pivot]

what was i gonna do with a 0/4 TA and a 1/4 senti

[thick bolt]

pray

[naive pivot]

yeah totally

[shadow gyro]

just play dudu dps and go ham

[naive pivot]

where

[shadow gyro]

you don't have her team?

[naive pivot]

i didn't have her at all until like 2 hours ago

[shadow gyro]

backpulling smh
no matter u got her anyways
if you wanna know who to use her with, you can show ur valks

[kind plank]

where can i find these?

[quick birch]

Go to Elysian realm and click on deep sequence in the top right corner, at the moment there is an ER event so you have to press head to deep sequence in the top right corner again after that

Now you just have to use MPE in deep sequence while being on inferno difficulty or above

The signet guide in pins should have some MPE signet builds

[kind plank]

thankssss

i only need to do it 1 time right?

[shadow gyro]

just to confirm the clear part wants u to do all the deep seq floors right

[quick birch]

Yes after you cleared it one time you can buy all stamps

[astral relic]

Hi, i havent played in a while (last time i played was vita release patch i think?) and need advice who to get next! These are my chars all 4/4

[kind plank]

oh shoot i forget i havent unlock her yet

[quick birch]

Clearing means either the boss before the Flamechasers or also beating the Flamechasers pretty sure it's the first since you also don't need to defeat any Flamechaser for full rewards

[shadow gyro]

hows ur crystal income rn? hows ur supply pity?

[kind plank]

wait do i need to ue her or just anyone?

[quick birch]

You need to clear it with MPE

[kind plank]

FF

[shadow gyro]

to get the stamps from the er shop u need to use the valk herself

[kind plank]

also yay finally lvl 80! do i unlock something new?

[astral relic]

I just started logging in today and only got less than 1k rn, abyss is back at forbidden 😞 banner pity at 42 for char and 38 for wep

[quick birch]

not really the real shit begins after breakthrough with a new abyss, leveling pri arms, etc.

( breakthrough is lvl 81)

[shadow gyro]

hmm you'll probably skip next patch (and skip the current patch) and wait for 8.3 news
try to grind crystals rn

[astral relic]

Okk ty!!

[spark crow]

How to get perms for images in #📚honkai-lore

[shadow gyro]

you can't send images in that channel?

[spark crow]

no

[shadow gyro]

you can send images in the other channels right?

if that's a no then maybe youre missing a role or something

[spark crow]

I can't send in #🎮honkai-chat either, ig I'll need to recheck

[thick bolt]

I see no captain role

could be that

[kind plank]

the 3rd one better right? cus it said so...? or...

[shadow gyro]

the ingame recommendations aren't good

[kind plank]

i see

[shadow gyro]

you can use what you have or steal hohe's bow just for what u wanna do and give it back to hohe later

lemme check tho is that ego or the dkey

[kind plank]

im struggle to build a good enough normal elysia XD

[quick birch]

HoHe bow probably has the highest atk just use it as a stat stick

[shadow gyro]

if the bow that hohe is using is her dkey (i think it is) then level it and use it
give it for mpe for er and give it back to hohe
if its ego then leave it and use the leveled one u have now

[kind plank]

this?

[shadow gyro]

yess

istg this game needs to put an extra indicator on dkeys i aint squinting for that

[kind plank]

it pain me to see that the effect wont be able to use

[shadow gyro]

its fine, i recommended it as an atk stat stick
mpe have her own wp but its not worth trying to get anymore

and this is enough for you to unlock the stamp

[kind plank]

i can just use it for i can clear this then give back XD

[shadow gyro]

yup

[kind plank]

gotta wait for monday

F hoyo for making weapon unfair XD

[shadow gyro]

thats fine, the stamps will always be there

not that you're in a rush to rank mpe anyways

[kind plank]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-anime-neko-funny-funny-anime-gif-16420737

do i only need to look at the hight dmg here for ex bronya or is there a weapon can yall rec?

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message there's an example here

ignore the budget gear on hohe in the pic, u alr have her signature

u can use the budget hohe stig in the pic on sw tho

[kind plank]

is this ex bronya or MPE?

[shadow gyro]

hohe is herrscher of human ego
or do you mean something else?

[kind plank]

this

[shadow gyro]

i don't think i understand the question 😓

[kind plank]

this is silver wing bronya

i just wonder what weapon suit her

[shadow gyro]

i did send you a link to budget gear on valks including sw
ill send it here

use the one that u have its stuff ready
i would use the weapon that u had highlighted in pink

[kind plank]

sorry i just only see elysia

thx tho

[shadow gyro]

ah i see
no worries

[dapper dock]

My main team is HoV was main damage dealer. Any valk better that ainde007 or RC to Boost HoV damage?

[shadow gyro]

none of these are worth getting from the box
did you check the pins? it goes into detail

[odd plume]

i updated the recommended build, removed SW, added hoh since beginner can buy her pack

[frozen crypt]

HoS

But be aware HoS is in war treasury as well

If you want to use the box optimally you could get sw since she's not farmable or you could even get an atk affix for HoV if you want to take her that far (full atk affixes are optimal on HoV, mine is 23x6 atk)

HoS has the same role as HoRb, applies impair for the team

[ancient needle]

(HoV is garbo in the endgame without ridiculous investment)

[frozen crypt]

They know I spoke to them before, they're stupid like me

[ancient needle]

Ah, fair enough

[frozen crypt]

One of us

[quick birch]

HoV pebs infiltrating the server

[slim blaze]

I See

[runic canopy]

HoO plebs wer

[quick birch]

doing HoD MA

[frozen crypt]

Wait peb is hilarious

[runic canopy]

As in abyss-
Ok i stop just realized this is #👶beginner-help

[frozen crypt]

[quick birch]

MOOOTS

[frozen crypt]

There's no mots here I just pretend to be one

[quick birch]

applied by accident

[slim blaze]

Someome stop me from buying ~~beach dorm ~~

[frozen crypt]

Staff gave me the role by accident

[frozen crypt]

Well bear in mind it will cost you a shit ton of time and matz to level it up, you start from lvl 1

Really not worth it unless you really enjoy desiging rooms and want the third one

[slim blaze]

Thanks lyo

[slim blaze]

I have time and matz

[frozen crypt]

I haven't even noticed the onigiri increase

[slim blaze]

True enough

I havent visited dorm in ages

[frozen crypt]

I don't know why its not free

Iirc beach dorm was free initially

[slim blaze]

V2.6 stuff back in 2019

U gotta complete event missions

[lilac reef]

How do I get Krystalloid in APHO? My tasks only give Krystallum.

[young hawk]

if i have old 4/4 HoT and a random horb just dying in my roster do i pick the seven thunders dkey or life harvester scythe
(from bp)

[slim blaze]

Check ruins

[quick birch]

if its between the two pick 7t because of the permenant +10 atk buff

[young hawk]

tyy

[lilac reef]

ohhhhh gotcha, thanks

[thick bolt]

also given from adv tasks

[young hawk]

will songque run again next patch

[lilac reef]

what's adv tasks? Highest rating for tasks I've seen is EX and it was still krystallum

[thick bolt]

[quick birch]

check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins for CN scheduel || currently there is no banner revealed for her || keep in mind that she is not recommended to get at this point

[thick bolt]

did I misinfo

[young hawk]

i have her already but i need her weapon
i just recently came back and i got her from the free carnival pulls, same with senadina so im trying to work with what i have

[quick birch]

her main purpose these days is LoA support in which she also functions without weapon

getting it now will just delay a new valk which isnt worth it imo

[young hawk]

oh okay thanks!! what about senadina

[quick birch]

senas mostly used as a WoD support in which she also functions without weapon, even if she would need it picking up her weapon now is not really something i would encourage

check this out for why

[young hawk]

also a lot of my old valks are 4/4 with lvl 65 priarms, currently only my vita and sparkle are 4/4 and my vita has her outfit too but im genuinely questioning whether restarting is a good option or not

[thick bolt]

just having vita and sparkle 4/4 is enough tbh, I won't suggest a restart in this case

[young hawk]

oh okay thanks! should i just focus on trying to 4/4 the next pt2 valk then

[quick birch]

i think your account is fine tbh lots of valk you can work with also just having asuka on that acc makes it extremly rare tbh

[thick bolt]

yeah

[young hawk]

okayy thank u bothh!

[thick bolt]

longer patches so depending on your crystals rn you can legitimately go for 8.2 if you have a decent amount like 25-30k at least
if the crystals are in short supply would have to skip till 8.3

[young hawk]

i only have 9k crystals rn but im 33 pulls away from the S rank

[quick birch]

how's weapon pity ?

[young hawk]

46 away

i haven’t touched rhe pt2 story at all if that gives crystals

[thick bolt]

I think in this case it's just waiting for 8.3 news then to decide which will be better for your account

[quick birch]

yeah would prob get sushang 1-2 weeks into the patch anyway

and valks teaser should be out by then

just keep up with #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion for the valk teaser and ask again once that is out tbh

but it will most likely result in an 8.2 skip if im being honest

[thick bolt]

the longer patch lengths making me quite hesitant when recommending the wait and see approach nowadays

[quick birch]

in general longer patches make me a bit hesitant about recommending things cuz you actually get a nice amount of crystals but best to play it safe tbh

[frozen crypt]

bleed in general is extremely shitty without a bleed valk for obvious reasons so I'd say pull if you can but yah she's not a crazy valk

[odd plume]

still have to wait for 8.3 news

good chance for spending

[hot wyvern]

Without sushang I would go -100 every bleed abyss

[odd plume]

not crazy amount of bleed weather so far, cope with vita lv

[frozen crypt]

oh yeah true

[frozen crypt]

same, no LV

[lilac reef]

can't cope with vita lv if I have no lv

[slim blaze]

Surely i can cope with LV

[narrow coyote]

How to get spirit jade?

[slim blaze]

Zhenyi TB handel M supremacy

[narrow coyote]

How to get spirit jade in fast way?

[slim blaze]

RoB

[thick bolt]

from realms of battle

only source

[narrow coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/jayarson-neworleansrapper-robber-bank-skimask-gif-18143841

[narrow coyote]

Ik only one and not other one?

[quick birch]

yes

[narrow coyote]

Ok....

[quick birch]

they are only needed to level up RoB dkeys and you will max them all over time

no need to rush

[narrow coyote]

How many days realm of battle reset?

[quick birch]

every monday

[narrow coyote]

Oh k thx

[dapper dock]

@frozen crypt this is still the best?

[frozen crypt]

yep, SAsc is still her BiS

way before its time, such a fucking goated set

Elysia set is extremely close to it but doesn't quite beat it

[dapper dock]

@frozen crypt what valk can I use here? her I die in the 1st stage lol

[frozen crypt]

ah dang I can't check in-game without downloading the cg files, does it give you a set of options?

[frozen crypt]

nvm lol its just 1 cg

[frozen crypt]

I mean that team should work tbh

[dapper dock]

that is the best to her right?

[frozen crypt]

that emblem is just collection its useless in practice

[dapper dock]

I m using 1aniversary one

[frozen crypt]

!faq emblem

[small willow]

Emblems

Hi Captain!

Emblems can be equipped on your profile. Some of them offer useful damage bonuses or increased pick-up range when you have them equipped, so it is important to know what the good ones are!

Some emblems have a limited duration, others are permanent. Abyss and ER emblem duration extends for each Abyss/ER cycle completed.

The Nirvana and Myriad Emblems offer a bonus 6 ATK when equipped as well as increased pick-up range. Stat bonuses from other Emblems are negligible.

Useful Emblems:

• Abyss Emblems (Myriad/Nirvana/RL/Agony, Best in general).
• Flame-Chaser Series (Best for ER).
• Subspace Annihilator (Situationally best for Physical runs).
• Bringer of Light (Situationally best for FoV runs where you don't want to pick up HP packs early but still need a damage emblem).

How to equip? See below!

[dapper dock]

ahhhhh ok ok

[frozen crypt]

use the highest abyss emblem you have

[dapper dock]

this?

[frozen crypt]

errr no abyss emblem?

[odd plume]

look at those gray SP tags, yeah ....

[frozen crypt]

redlotus/agony?

[frozen crypt]

LOL I just realized

but his HoV is 4/4 would that not work

[dapper dock]

so what can i do?

[odd plume]

probably dont know how to use her

[dapper dock]

yeah need Lyo guide

[frozen crypt]

[odd plume]

make sure they you at least unlocked her skill

[dapper dock]

will do that!

and ELF what is the best that I can farm?

[frozen crypt]

ELFs aren't farmable easily but you can get project bunny next patch

and gradually upgrade it to 3* via spending events

again just be aware that we would typically recommend kiana elf over project bunny because kiana elf covers elemental teams but if you just want to benefit your HoV then pb is good and doesn't need 4* unlike dudu elf

pb is on the left

[quick birch]

peak 🥕 gameplay once PB is acquired

[urban lake]

me with S2 LV-

wait this isn't #🎮honkai-chat

sry lyo

[shadow tendon]

whats redlotus like vs a3 vs nirvana

im that i get promote to rl this time

[sweet flax]

rl is just a skill check, the better players will promote, some weathers can be demanding with the proper teams otherwise brute forcing becomes more difficult
nirv is a BiS check as well as a skill check, if you dont have bis, and are not that good, you will demote

[shadow gyro]

the higher the ranks the more dis and more competition
rl is a good f2p difficulty but if you have been playing for a decent amount of time and is very strategic then nirvana is possible as well
a3 is chill as long as you know what you're doing and you can easily leave it to rl
ofc new players or ppl who are still learning would stick in a3 for some time until they get to rl normally

[sweet flax]

(though generally speaking nirv alone is just a 40 crystal per week bonus 360 crystals a patch, so no worries if you cant reach it)

[dapper dock]

@frozen crypt should I change? if yes what is the kind one to pick it?

[frozen crypt]

crit rate is quite useless

you'd be picking bio atk

[dapper dock]

sec

[sweet flax]

new hov player in the making?

[sweet flax]

👀

[frozen crypt]

yea finally I can yap to someone about HoV

[dapper dock]

that?

[frozen crypt]

yep this one

but this is from the box right? you would get way more short-term gains for HoV by getting HoS from the box, you only pick this if you want 23x6 atk on your HoV like mine to flex, the actual effect atk has is minimal

[dapper dock]

how many fragaments I will get?

[frozen crypt]

but then again these 23 atk affixes are incredibly rare and can't be obtained from WT like HoS can, depends what you want

[frozen crypt]

it's the full character card no? I assumed you don't have HoS already

[dapper dock]

I have hos lol

[frozen crypt]

oh nono I mean you'd pick HoS from that box

I thought you didn't have her

okay

[frozen crypt]

I wouldn't use the box on HoV frags I'd get an atk affix instead

[dapper dock]

yeahh

[frozen crypt]

well since u have HoS just get bio atk affix then

or keep the box if you don't feel the need to go for super sweaty affixes

[dapper dock]

done tks 🙂

[frozen crypt]

also back to that F1 stage, if you haven't cleared it yet use HoV HoS TA

should do it ezpz

not sure what gear you have, can send it if you want

aside from the 4/4 HoV

[dapper dock]

sec

need get to level 81.

[frozen crypt]

yeah that will give you a lot more atk

[young hawk]

is she good?

[frozen crypt]

terrible

[autumn oxide]

hell no

[amber finch]

dogshit

[young hawk]

i have her 4/4 from years ago
oh 😭

[autumn oxide]

shes like ches if he still plays the game

[amber finch]

[autumn oxide]

Doro

[frozen crypt]

she requires a ridiculous amount of investment just to make her work in nirv mobbing, she can't even do bossing anymore

[urban lake]

absolutely f***ing not

[frozen crypt]

[urban lake]

why do u torture you're self

[frozen crypt]

I enjoy the gameplay so its not torture

[amber finch]

just wait til that stupid big fist bio boss returns

wait no not bio

[autumn oxide]

maso

[amber finch]

urgh brain fart

what was it, psy

[autumn oxide]

not torture cos she has that team 12s so she does infinite damage

lyo so whel

[urban lake]

I will never understand brits

[urban lake]

real

[frozen crypt]

I wish it was 12s

its only 6S

[autumn oxide]

only

[amber finch]

is no fws a -60p or am i just bad

its the latter isnt it

[autumn oxide]

ure just bad

im at 756 with vita sonk

[amber finch]

https://tenor.com/view/jinki948-cat-disappear-funny-cat-cat-cute-cat-gif-22510474

[autumn oxide]

but im bad i need to improve it

[amber finch]

imma blame 120 fps or smt

[autumn oxide]

i mald a lil ltr

[autumn oxide]

ure 120? thats good enough

[amber finch]

easy fix for rel

[amber finch]

no im blaming you for having 120 FPS

[autumn oxide]

oh lol

ackshually

[amber finch]

damn you auto correct for capping fps

[amber finch]

im blaming newer chip if you bring up your phone

[autumn oxide]

its around 190-200ish

[amber finch]

fuck

[autumn oxide]

i play uncapped

[autumn oxide]

nah my phones capped 60 cos of refresh rate

[urban lake]

only

[frozen crypt]

Yea considering 3 of those is HoV herself xD

RS S0+1 HoRb SS

[dapper dock]

Ofc who cares. We do what we like

[frozen crypt]

[thick bolt]

oh god they're multiplying

[ancient needle]

Surprised you didn't make a HoV doro yet

[frozen crypt]

I could xd

[abstract sequoia]

do it

please c:

need a server mascot doro

[halcyon ravine]

I am at 13k or so crystals since I kinda slept on the past few weeks, wondering if I will be able to farm enough crystals to get the next valk in time. I have around 10k crystals in one time sources that I can go get, but beyond that will take considerable effort that I don't think I am willing to do unless 8.2 valk is insane

I need 30k for a valk right

[thick bolt]

30k for a 75% chance yeah
this case though I'd suggest just waiting for 8.3 news before deciding whether to pull otherwise I'm inclined to say skip

[frozen crypt]

[thick bolt]

okay hovcookie on the doro

[frozen crypt]

I can use hovcookie as a template

[thick bolt]

she has the hair, works

[halcyon ravine]

||I don't have a physical dps at all, so having one would be very nice. I also need a bleed valk. Those 2 weathers I always seem to lose trophies on, so I really would like a valk for those. Hopefully 8.3 is good though because maybe I could skip 8.2||

[thick bolt]

ye the bleed does get you

[ancient needle]

You can do the discounted 10x and go from there imo

[ancient needle]

No need to spoiler tag anymore btw, the beta is up

[autumn oxide]

@amber finch

[tropic vortex]

does the equipment banner have soft pity?

[ancient needle]

No

[quick birch]

Valk banner also has no official soft pity only one that we got from data and that isn't something to rely on tbh

[vague lily]

How often do skins get rerun?

[ancient needle]

Not an easy question to answer tbh, they sometimes rerun even extremely old stuff (like AE's wedding dress skin somewhat recently)

I assume you're talking about gacha outfits, yes?

[vague lily]

Yeah. It seems I was slightly late and didn't get the chance to go for the Eldritch Vita skin.

[ancient needle]

Well, they'll probs rerun it in a couple of patches

[vague lily]

Alright, thanks for the help.

[dapper dock]

this upgrades is for all in game maps events ect?

[thick bolt]

no, just for ER gamemode

[thick bolt]

it's beautiful

[ancient needle]

Dump in #discord-feedback now

[thick bolt]

[frozen crypt]

done

[ancient needle]

Gotta remember the classic tho: #discord-feedback message

[frozen crypt]

[ancient needle]

Dayum, even better

[sweet flax]

more hov emotes

[steel phoenix]

So uh, who would yall recommend i get from the returnee valkyrie chest?

[sweet flax]

The sp rank one?

Well it makes no difference who you pick as you can farm all of them, preferably pick an unowned valk who is available in er

[steel phoenix]

i just dunno who would be best to take rn

[shadow gyro]

you can show the sp valks that u have

[steel phoenix]

like all of em? or just the ones i currently use

[shadow gyro]

i suggest getting coralie, u would use her in late game

[sweet flax]

Wait it's a new account

[steel phoenix]

i uh havent played in years

[sweet flax]

Coralie isn't an sp valk iirc

Ig there's the a rank valk choice as well

[shadow gyro]

the sp valk box doesn't have her?
or wait they aren't talking about the one from this patch? that one got sp valks + Coralie and helia

then TA or pardo would be great

[steel phoenix]

uh

[bleak stump]

What would yall recommend I pick from these?

[steel phoenix]

should i take starlit astrologos theresa then?

[quick birch]

check out the first pin if you still feel unsure after that we can elaborate a bit more

[bleak stump]

Ah ok ty

[steel phoenix]

or would reverist calico be better

[shadow gyro]

actually can you show me the box then? even the name would be enough

[steel phoenix]

alr

tis everything in the box, aside from the sakura i already have

[bleak stump]

Would that be for the first starter egg or the box too?

[shadow gyro]

then either TA or pardo
unlock one from the box and get the other from the asterite shop

[steel phoenix]

alr

ill prolly get theresa first

[shadow gyro]

no dw about teri

[steel phoenix]

shes got synergy wit my seele

[shadow gyro]

she's in the asterite shop as well

and tbh she's useless rn

[steel phoenix]

so pardo?

[shadow gyro]

the ingame recommendation isn't good

[steel phoenix]

pardo first then

[quick birch]

this pin specifically is about the box, with the first starter egg do you mean Valkyrie option egg : S ?

[bleak stump]

Yea, is that what the pin is about ?

[quick birch]

this pin is about the box yes

we have another faq for the egg

[bleak stump]

Ok

What ab this?

[bleak stump]

Or is it like the same deal

[shadow gyro]

thats the first pin in this channel

[left vale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9roQZid1is can anyone explain to me why this uses HoFs instead of HoFi? is there a particular reason?

[autumn oxide]

omg its mogu mogu yummy

[shadow gyro]

sw is the only one that isn't farmable (but is in dorm supply)
but she should be farmable soon and the affix box is better for endgame if you wanna be competitive

[autumn oxide]

hieu le had good music taste damn

[bleak stump]

Ah ok ty

[left vale]

i guess maybe so HoO can ult normally
otherwise theres no reason i see

[autumn oxide]

also move ur ass to gameplay sticks that aint no beginner qn

[left vale]

[autumn oxide]

ure rarely right but this is probs one of the times

and ig hes just making cope refs

[left vale]

theres no need for that

[autumn oxide]

not all the refs he makes, esp for rl, is bis team

[autumn oxide]

its just my love for u fr

[bleak stump]

For rn I don’t rlly wanna be competitive I kinda jus wanna collect valkyries

[left vale]

and this is not the place for that

[haughty elbow]

hieu le fell off theres only whale refs now

[autumn oxide]

real shit

he dint even make a vita sonk ref for fish 😔

i actually had to use my brain for once

[left vale]

if youre just aiming to collect valks and dont care about abyss scores, pick whoever you want.
that being said, silverwing is the only one you cant get for "free" (farmable via War Treasury shop) so you wont be able to get her until she comes to war treasury. thats why we suggest getting her, because everyone else in the box is farmable in WT
it does take a while to farm up an AL/AW/AL+AW valk tho.

[shadow gyro]

idk if this is the reason but

[left vale]

lmao i didnt notice that

[shadow gyro]

lmao

[bleak stump]

Also, I’m almost at the guarantee should I get sparkle or mini durandal?

[left vale]

or actually i guess the pins say otherwise, people suggest to keep it
but again if you dont care about your account's progression you can just pick whoever

[shadow gyro]

sw should be farmable soon, i recommend keeping the box for now, how many valks do you have to collect in war treasury? that should make you busy for a while
the box won't expire so dw

[left vale]

well im gonna ask this again
do you care about abyss scores
because if you do the answer is save for sushang
otherwise just whichever you prefer

higher abyss score = more crystals btw

[ancient needle]

If you absolutely want a better pick right now it's Dudu

But there's like 5 days left until the next patch

[left vale]

dudu is the safer option because she has a locked tag
sparkle cannot get any better than she is right now
so if you are really itching to satisfy your gambling addiction the pick is dudu
but in my personal opinion just save for sushang

[bleak stump]

I only have experience with other hoyo games so in theory if I get Dudu could I get sushang next patch?

[left vale]

no. throw all of your prior experience out the window, this game is extremely different from GI/HSR/ZZZ

[bleak stump]

Ok thank you

[quick birch]

no, also if you get a valk you always want to get the weapon in this game

[bleak stump]

Oh yea I forgot about the gear 😭

[ancient needle]

Actually you should be able to afford Sushang even if you try to get Dudu rn, but it's still not recommended, also you won't be able to get Sushang on day 1

[bleak stump]

Considering gear I’ll just go for sushang

[ancient needle]

If you do decide to get Dudu make sure to keep 60 pulls in the tank so that she doesn't end up weapless

[ancient needle]

Yeah, that's a good idea

[left vale]

yeah overall i suggest just not getting dudu

[left vale]

great idea

[shadow gyro]

sushang would be more beneficial yeah

and you can use her in her own bosses and use her for longer

[steel phoenix]

I did not realise just hoe badly my team needed pardo

[bleak stump]

Yea

[shadow gyro]

she and TA are very good characters for early/mid game
do you want gear recommendations?

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message this is it if you need it

[bleak stump]

For rn I have hohe and key of ego that should carry me for a while right?

[shadow gyro]

that's fine for early/mid game as well
u can also click that link for a hohe gear
unfortunately it seems you don't have her dkey? that's what she needs for endgame

[bleak stump]

Yea I don’t have that, I made my new acc after the banner ended 😭

Ive able to make 2 of the stigmata’s that were on that banner tho

[shadow gyro]

i see, it ok u can use her for now!
although the stigmata is mainly useless since it needs her dkey to function
but you can leave them as is for now

[steel phoenix]

yes

[bleak stump]

Is the dkey purely Gacha? Or can I make it

[left vale]

gacha only

[bleak stump]

damn😭 I gotta wait for it to rerun

Is the new sushang gonna be a dps?

[shadow gyro]

both a dps and support

for LoA

[bleak stump]

What’s that?

[shadow gyro]

and a support for a ??? ring that we don't have yet

[shadow gyro]

law of ascension, its the newest ring type that we have

for now

[bleak stump]

Oh

Is she ice?

[quick birch]

every p2 S rank is both a support and a dps

[quick birch]

no she is physical bio

[bleak stump]

Oh-

[bleak stump]

What sp unit could I use with her ? Or do we know yet

[left vale]

you can use coralie and RC

[quick birch]

if you dont have any p2 chars sushang+coralie+TA/SI should do fine

[ancient needle]

SI is better

[left vale]

nah SI is too gear reliant, barely any basekit buffs, i think RC should be better

[ancient needle]

TA's buffs are mostly crit-related

[ancient needle]

Eh, maybe

[haughty elbow]

isnt she bleed
if so then si would be better

[left vale]

again SI has like barely any buffs

and no support set to use really that i know of

[bleak stump]

I only have Coralie and the other a rank white haired girl you get I forgot her name,

For p2 characters

[quick birch]

some phys dmg bonus and a phys meele dmg debuff do sound nice for PS, no idea if those buffs are actually rank locked though

[ancient needle]

Well, Bleed is not melee

[left vale]

PS doesnt do melee dmg

[quick birch]

right i forgot

still phys dmg bonus

i cant fucking read

yk what

i should go to sleep

[spiral badge]

for times like these it might be best to bring up the actual skill descriptions if you can

i believe SI innately only really has her mixing buffs? (basically just red paint and only if the shield is broken/nonexistant)
https://i.imgur.com/JdeYG3E.png

And this only gets transferred to teammates when she ults

[left vale]

yeah she has very very bad buffs

RC comes out of the box with her buffs
?% tdt on purple combo (idr how much) and more

[bleak stump]

lol

[spiral badge]

aside from actual buffs i'm not really sure how her inflicting bleed is notable as a cope support for sushang unless you need more bleed trauma

i haven't looked to see if sushang can achieve 5 stacks of bleed actually. i kinda just assumed that's the norm for any bleed focused valk/team at this point

[left vale]

sushang applies 5 stacks in like 1 WA. she doesnt need anyone to apply bleed

[spiral badge]

ah ok

[ancient needle]

So it'll be 9 stacks with SI

Not that that is useful ofc

[spiral badge]

RC afaik at A rank only has the universal debuff (can be found at skill > top right for special attack > plan b)

At S rank she lets the team deal bonus damage against frozen enemies but this may not always be realistic and practical outside of ice teams
(found at skill > passive on left)

at SSS rank she gets a slight total damage bonus too but that's a bit too far to expect a beginner to reach before they stop becoming one lol
(found in skill > center sp button > last skill)

[spiral badge]

i don't think they stack that way? lol

but idk

[haughty elbow]

it does

[ancient needle]

Well, that's why you always see 9 stacks in VQ comps

VQ and SI both give +4

[left vale]

9 stacks of bleed shouldnt make too much of a difference, im not sure if 4 more stacks of bleed is worth it over actual buffing capabilities

[ancient needle]

VQ SI CE and you get the juicy 13

Yeah, ofc

[spiral badge]

hm ok somehow i never noticed

prob because i skipped vq stuff lol

[bleak stump]

By SI do yall mean starry impression?

[ancient needle]

Yes

[spiral badge]

yes

[bleak stump]

Think that was the name

[ancient needle]

Yes

[bleak stump]

Ok thanks

[left vale]

RCs buffs
in comparison to SI i definitely think she would be better
she also has a faster rotation

[spiral badge]

RC is also more useful in other ways if you're new

[left vale]

yeah

[spiral badge]

i don't think double scratch 3 sp is worth noting though lol

[bleak stump]

Yea I use her all the time

[left vale]

as for set options she can probably use like TeriO or smth

[ancient needle]

Gonna make all the difference in Sinful Q-Mani

[left vale]

could use gustav as well

[spiral badge]

maybe gluttony T and FHM MB/Ogier B since her cat can retrigger the former off field if it isn't already on someone else

uh do they already have gustav?

if not then i wouldn't recommend going out of their way to make it

[left vale]

oh shit why are G2s 900 ether fuel

[spiral badge]

lol

new players are prob low on ether fuel too which they would want for crafting new valk p2 stigs if unlucky enough, or maybe even cora stigs

[left vale]

could try glut T picasso MB but picasso is inconsistent asf

[spiral badge]

anyway another thing to note is that RC has her primary benefits at A rank as mentioned earlier

SI by contrast wants at least S rank so she can restore sp more sustainably to ult regularly (which again shares her mixing buff)

i do think cora and RC on the same team may stack too much total damage buff and debuffs that TA (who is also widely useful early on) may be worth considering
but ofc as said earlier part of TA's benefits are lost on sushang's bleed

[left vale]

wow there are like absolutely 0 good beginner stigs that give tdt/pdt

does tsiol set stack?

[ancient needle]

I mean, you can't really be throwing around Prisms either

[left vale]

yeah thats true

glut T fhm MB should suffice then

[spiral badge]

maybe SI can still be considered for the bleed stacks too but this is way too niche and short sighted for me to recommend overall imo

[left vale]

picasso MB could theoretically be better but its RNG

[spiral badge]

it's not really rng

but for SI's purposes she doesn't spend enough time to trigger it if you're going through her actions asap

[quick birch]

short question about the bleed stacking, yall were talking about actual stacking not just refreshing the same stack over and over again ? if yes sushang cant stack bleed at all or am i having the third brainfart this hour

[left vale]

oh you need picasso T to even have red paint dont you

[spiral badge]

yeah picasso TM i want to say are preferred

[left vale]

then u cant use glut

yeah glut T fhm MB then
probably best

[spiral badge]

ok hang on yeah i'm not seeing any bleed stacks in beta videos

from PS herself at least

[left vale]

? im pretty confident she can 5 stack bleed by herself, unless u mean smth else

[spiral badge]

https://i.imgur.com/7neNUp9.png

in most normal cases the bleed status is capped at 1

[left vale]

hmm

[spiral badge]

but some valks like VQ SI CE can increase the cap

that is from a beta v3 video btw

i should look up a live cn one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvmoJIMilFo

[quick birch]

yeah i was a bit confused about the 5 stacks since i played a lot of beta in the last few days and never noticed it

[spiral badge]

i never looked into how the stacked bleed DoT damage works either at this point. Initially I was told the damage is sourced from SI herself, but when VQ came along and had her own, the situation got messier

so even if SI can give more stacks of bleed to PS, i don't know if it's going to multiply PS' existing bleed DoT damage or is it just going be 1x PS DoT and the rest are from SI

and overall PS' bleed DoT is only a portion and not the majority of her overall damage

---

but anyway enough of this explorative tangent from me. i think the recommendation will still be any of TA/RC/Cora overall since they are useful in other ways.

[frozen crypt]

[autumn oxide]

u actl made it an emote here wow

[frozen crypt]

well I don't really do the emotes

so not me xd

[haughty elbow]

one day we will get diana cow

[ancient needle]

Eventually™️

[sweet flax]

Diana what now

[autumn oxide]

diana the cow duh

[thick bolt]

diana cow #discord-feedback message

[ancient needle]

Gotta link the original lah
1 sec

[sweet flax]

[thick bolt]

can't find the the place where it started, I need to search harder

[autumn oxide]

this kid too new he shdnt know the lore

[sweet flax]

Idk what I'm looking at, but this shit's majestic

[autumn oxide]

he has to find it himself frfr

[thick bolt]

I was linked to it once, sadly didn't save

[ancient needle]

Here: #👶beginner-help message

[sweet flax]

💀

[autumn oxide]

back when adori was a thing too

rip my er lao

[ancient needle]

Adori saved their sanity

[autumn oxide]

omg hi3er

[ancient needle]

Sy was around too

[thick bolt]

sy gone

[autumn oxide]

sy never gone

sy blue

[thick bolt]

sy blue gon

sounds like pokemon evolutions

[frozen crypt]

I still chat to sy sometimes

[autumn oxide]

is he still blue

jeify

[frozen crypt]

No

[ancient needle]

When he quit wasn't he alr SyPurple

[left vale]

why do so many people have S0+2 thelema?
genuinely curious
i'm one of them but i just got a lucky single, ive noticed a LOT of people have S0+2 thele tho

[thick bolt]

+2 for MA

[left vale]

whats the difference?

does she have 60sp when she does MoI?

[thick bolt]

dunno, didn't check

[haughty elbow]

because its around the same as s2 in terms of dmg but u get the benefit of sp
ofc it doesnt matter anymore but it did on release

[left vale]

it has similar damage to S2? wow i didnt know that

[haughty elbow]

s2 just isnt that good compared to the glaze it gets

and weapon is independent

[left vale]

well its great for opening and buffs her support a bit iirc

other than that tho its not much

but its still really good compared to other p2 S2's

[haughty elbow]

well yeah thats because all of the s2s arent game changing
good game design

if we had a horb repeat i would die

[left vale]

errr does anyone know what the value of this is or is it just hoyo being weird and not listing it

[spiral badge]

can i request for you guys to keep dupe talk to #💁gameplay-help too next time? I don't really want new people to think having them is expected at a f2p level lol

[haughty elbow]

did u turn summary off

[left vale]

yeah its off

[haughty elbow]

which skill is that

[left vale]

its thelema's weapon

[ancient needle]

Which skill of the weap

[left vale]

first one

fallen banquet

[autumn oxide]

-10sp on first ult so u spend less time farming sp

[haughty elbow]

the cn version seems to say that its the same amount as the buff right before it

[left vale]

so 18%?

[haughty elbow]

yeah

i dont think its a separate buff tho
just an alternate way to trigger it

[young olive]

Guys which one?

[left vale]

it doesnt matter. whichever you want most
you can pick the pink tickets but its not enough to buy an outfit from the mall with

[young olive]

Tyy

[spiral badge]

if you're undecided you can keep the box too since it doesn't expire

you should be able to preview each costume as well in the valk > costume menu for each valk

[young olive]

Yeahhh, I just don't know which one should I choose because I like all 3 of the costumes

[spiral badge]

maybe decide later then

some costumes may have special effects as you attack too. Maybe search up videos of people with those costumes in combat as well

[left vale]

all 3 of them have special effects afaik

[young olive]

Thankk youuuu

[worldly vortex]

How do I beat the 5th stage of zenith

I suddenly win 0 rounds and idk why

[primal heron]

r u using the stage buff effet?

[worldly vortex]

Idk 😭

It was all so easy untill stage 5

[quick birch]

Stage 5 focuses on honkai beasts, the team you get at the beginning should last you until round 5-6 focus on leveling and stack honkai beasts after that

[worldly vortex]

Alr

[quick birch]

In the future pay attention to the stage effect since that will help you out a lot

[worldly vortex]

Yea I wad kinda tldr

[wheat idol]

is sushang worth

[ancient needle]

If you can afford both her and 8.3 yes

Otherwise wait for 8.3 news

[wheat idol]

okok

[naive pivot]

so where does RS's stun come from

am i blind or something, i don't see anything about it in her skills

[ancient needle]

CA and ult

[naive pivot]

ah i see

i was wondering why she's so good at this cycle but i guess that's why

oh yeah i just realized, does horbius still need SP affixes at s2 or can i get rid of those now

[autumn oxide]

she doesnt even need them at s0

if anyt it messes her up even more

[naive pivot]

weird for some reason i always heard about her needing SP affixes, maybe that was just for the nerds that didn't have her weapon

[haughty elbow]

sp affixes are good when ur running a cope phys team like p1 songque

that team is so sp tight

[autumn oxide]

shdnt matter for hrb tho? she passively regens to 100

[naive pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/sxv-wtf-gif-23560064

[haughty elbow]

yeah but the issue is getting the other sp

[autumn oxide]

sp% is worthless sps cld hv some uses but generally i still recommend atk

[sullen zenith]

i'm at realms of battle, which one should i pick?

[frozen crypt]

!faq whatdkey

[small willow]

Which DKey should I claim first?

Hello, Captain!

Also check out the Divine Key explanation pin [here](#👶beginner-help message) if anything mentioned (such as "gene limit") is confusing/unknown to you.

In the long run it doesn't matter, but the ideal order is:
1 - Grips of Tai Xuan (gloves, cope glove weapon and ice gene limit).
2 - Cleaver/Judgement of Shamash (guns/greatsword, need both to sync for +10 attack and fire gene limit).
3 - Jizo Mitama (katana, phys gene limit attached to it).
4 - Star of Eden (cannon, has no attached gene limit it just exists).

[sullen zenith]

Thanks!!

[frozen crypt]

Meow

[lyric anvil]

[autumn oxide]

omg dinner

[frozen crypt]

[shadow tendon]

no way i just learned rs has stun

[frozen crypt]

Yeah!

[autumn oxide]

thats stunning!

[frozen crypt]

I'm going to stun you

[shadow tendon]

me when i dont read

[frozen crypt]

Nobody reads here its ok

[heady relic]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-honkai-impact-fuhua-phoenix-hua-gif-12198184389720112807

[shadow tendon]

[frozen crypt]

I can write guides but idk how to read

That's why I always watch guide cay to know how to play the new valks :3

[autumn oxide]

u alr do 🤩

[frozen crypt]

[dry python]

Which is why lyo doesn't know how to play the new valks

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/776119025645780993.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

[young hawk]

is asuka any good or is she useless like 90% of the other pt1 valks

[left vale]

no shes never really been good
there are a handful of p1 valks that are still good, and thats not including MA, because p1 valks still dominate in MA (although RS/FWS/TFM/JDS have been pretty damn good)
asuka wasnt really meant to be good ever because she was limited time and an A rank

[young hawk]

oh 😭

[young hawk]

are any of my current valks still useful
(majority of pt1 valks are 4/4)
as for my pt2 valks only vita and sparkle are 4/4

[left vale]

HoRb has been historically very strong in MA, and the same can be said for VQ, TA, RC, CE, SI, and SnS (keep in mind a majority of those listed are best in SS MA rather than SSS)
GD is still finding uses surprisingly. iirc she's used on starless bull, para sus, and starless bena alongside LV, SImp, HoO, and HoFi
i also dont see why your coralie isnt 4/4 but thats more me nitpicking than anything else
so, to answer your question, yes, a bunch of your valks are still good. just a majority of them have been relegated to MA only atp

IO also technically still has 1 boss but it's only ran once and there's no guarantee that it'll ever run again. she would also need to be SSS to beat HoO there to my knowledge, as well as needing LV and SImp

and MPE does pretty well on starless SK

[young hawk]

i wasn’t playing when we got the free coralie stuff sadly i came back during the vita release and got senadina from a free carnival pull then songque from another carnival pull this patch

[left vale]

coralie's weapon is still free

all you have to do is the story
and her stigs are craftable

[young hawk]

oh how do i get it?

ohh okay tysm!

[left vale]

its a p2 story reward

[broken sky]

Is this game open world? Are there mounts available?

[lone crater]

nope

[sweet flax]

there are partial open world areas in certain story chapters, but the game itself is not fully open-world

the base movement speed is high enough and there are a lot of quick travel points in said chapters

[haughty elbow]

its semi open world
technically there are "mounts" but not everywhere and not on every char

[dire bloom]

!help

[mystic crypt]

Bunny has come to the rescue!

No category:

• !help - Shows this message

Wiki search:

• !search - Search the text content of the weapons, battlesuits, and stigmata pages
• !wiki - Search the page titles of the wiki

Want to know more?

Type !help <command> for more info on a command.

Keep calm and !wiki, captains.

[dire bloom]

!help crystal

[mystic crypt]

No command called "crystal" found.

[odd plume]

[spiral badge]

only professors and mods can use the ai chan bot. Otherwise you can refer to pins for common FAQs including a list of commands. While you cannot use a command directly, you can discord search for past use cases of the same command.

The bunny bot is for pulling up other kinds of descriptions like stigmatas. You can use it in #wiki-consult and not here.

[dire bloom]

Forgive my tired queries. Based on a conversation in #🎮honkai-chat I was just seeing if there was a guide for F2P crystal farming is all. Ignore me.

[odd plume]

check the pins for once time crystal, other than that, you just play the game daily

[spiral badge]

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

yeah there isn't really a f2p method in particular. It's just seeing and getting all sources you reasonably can

hm the faq here didn't state it but my spreadsheet concerns limited time crystals that may be missable

so prioritize those first

if you really want a slimmed down summary that covers most of the regular income, make sure you keep up with the following

• abyss (resets mon and thurs)
• elysian realm deep sequence (resets weekly)

there's other sources but those are the main ones. If i have to list any further then try to get logins/dailies/and memorial arena clears as well

and you can find more in the sheet

if you're new then some of these may not be unlocked yet. Check out pins for account progression pointers to see at what level you unlock new features

[dire bloom]

Thanks!
Captain level 76, but also don't know what I'm doing/played every mode. Just recently unlocked/started playing Elysian Realm for example.

[spiral badge]

feel free to ask if you want additional pointers esp if you have anything more specific

we generally default to long term meta (focused on abyss) advice here since that nets you more crystals but we can help for non meta advice too. just be clear what your goals are

i can't stick around any further though so someone else will have to help if you do have more questions

[dire bloom]

No worries; I should be asleep as well.
Have a good sleep/day/night/hiatus/etc.

[hollow mango]

How do i get a higher score in MA

Do i just kill the boss faster

[celest shard]

Is this Blood moon event a rerun? It feels super familiar.

[haughty elbow]

yes

[prisma fiber]

Barely touch anything,can I still get enough crystals and prism?

[sweet flax]

Enough crystals for...?

[prisma fiber]

Get all the crys*

[tulip thunder]

is this theresa any good? got her from the returnee banner

[naive pivot]

she's alright but it would seem that you lack the stigmatas and probably the team for her

and it's way too late to be doing anything about either

[tulip thunder]

what would her teams be anw?

[naive pivot]

herrscher of truth+eden/big griseo depending on the boss

[tulip thunder]

aw

guess shes just for er gems

[naive pivot]

yeah probably

[spiral badge]

schicksal imperative (qua teri) is generally superior to hotr
@tulip thunder

but yeah no longer recommended to heavily invest in

!faq lv

[small willow]

Lunar Vow (LV)

Stop right there, Captain!

Despite #👶beginner-help worshipping LV, it is currently not recommended to backpull her, and it is unlikely that it will be feasible to invest into her in the future. Please see Professor Kithi's summary [here](#👶beginner-help message).

[tulip thunder]

ight thanks

[naive pivot]

oh yeah forgot that was a thing

[tulip thunder]

last time i played was hofi

💔

[naive pivot]

well at least they buffed hofi a few patchs back

[shadow tendon]

at least lv is nice to look at

[rugged sorrel]

omg i am back

[haughty elbow]

but they dont have dkey

[naive pivot]

[slim blaze]

Hi back

[naive pivot]

i don't think i've ever seen an entire set available at once in the same exchange rotation

[odd plume]

it's one way, yes
however, there are manything that slowdown the timer in MA, if you use them right, you can do a very long fight but still get high score

tho unless you have appropriate team for the boss, those tech wont affect your result much, could slow you down instead

[steep drift]

does this timer and the timer for the combat missions match up (are they the same?)? I'm worried I missed yesterday's dailies.

kinda nvm, 19 slots are filled here so I think that means it's not the 20th for the game yet.

[heady relic]

NA still hasn't hit its Sunday reset ye

[drifting zealot]

how can i get free crystals from this?

[hot wyvern]

It's self explanatory, you ask beginners/returnee to put your invite code, you get crystals

[thick bolt]

They also need to finish a couple missions for this to count. Due to timegates it takes a week since code input for them to finish. (a mission needs weekly count)

[lunar dew]

i can put that in!

im a new person

[lyric anvil]

It might not work due to different servers

[lunar dew]

you NA?

[lyric anvil]

Yes

[lunar dew]

im NA i can use the code

[lyric anvil]

108754074LP
Give it a try, don't know if it'll work since I've gotten all of my xtals from it-

[lyric anvil]

If it doesn't there's #invite-links-here

[lunar dew]

where do i put this?

[lyric anvil]

Bonus tab

[haughty elbow]

cant use codes if ur too high lvl

[lyric anvil]

Or that

[sweet flax]

Too high in this case being lvl 26

For some fucking reason

[lyric anvil]

[sweet flax]

Just honkek things

[lyric anvil]

One thing I did not do when I was below that level, use an invite code-

[sweet flax]

Ye most of us didn't either unless new account

Because the game does an amazing job of navigating you to that page

[lyric anvil]

I was, started around the end of 7.9

[quick birch]

the game in general is amazing to navigate you through the game ~~ for all the lurkers it isnt ~~

[lunar dew]

WHAT?!

[lyric anvil]

Rip

[sweet flax]

[lunar dew]

I JUST PLAYED FOR ONLY ONE WEEK!

[sweet flax]

Ye you can't use other players codes, but now they can use your codes

[lyric anvil]

You level up very fast

[quick birch]

you hit lvl 26 in one day easy the cap is really unnecessary

[sweet flax]

Fun fact you're already around lvl 20 after chapter 1 (the tutorial) which is where you unlock half the menus in the game

[amber finch]

the cap was prob back when leveling was hell

[lyric anvil]

[lunar dew]

yeah you could grind to level 40 in at least 3-5 hours

i only play the game 20 mins each day

[sweet flax]

Honestly ye can't complain lurkers don't forget about cadet system

[quick birch]

[lyric anvil]

Don't even navigate you to the Sensei-Cadet system

[sweet flax]

Technically less

[amber finch]

grah im too lazy to mald to water’s level

im 27p behind grahhh

@quick birch this is literally your fault

[sweet flax]

Hoyo when navigating players to LTO, gacha banners or monthly card
Hoyo when navigating players to account progression content

[lunar dew]

but good news i got to 10k gems today! 20k more for 4/4 sushang. I really dont like it but meta is meta :[

[quick birch]

why is it my fault now

[amber finch]

urg its either you or asu

i chose you

[sweet flax]

Tf did i do, blame mango

[quick birch]

blame someone else

[lyric anvil]

She's useful cause bleed is a pain in the rear end when you get to exalted-

[amber finch]

nuh uh

[sweet flax]

Ches did you try blaming water for having that point diff tbw

[quick birch]

then go mald and loose some hair

[amber finch]

i did

[sweet flax]

How'd that go

[amber finch]

i tried the classic fps blame but he countered with ur shit

[sweet flax]

Ye that's hard to beat

Have you pulled a "nuh uh"

[amber finch]

damn i forgor

[sweet flax]

Ye i diagnose you with skill issue then

[lunar dew]

yeah for like 2 patches then shes gonna be outdated.
I just like playing the old s valks theyre more fun but like i rather not try to suffer.

[amber finch]

oh also 9 weeks patches really fricks my advices over, do i tell newbies to pull for sussy or wait abit for 8.3 news

[sweet flax]

2 patches then outdated? What fucking hi3 installment you on

[amber finch]

what

[sweet flax]

[lyric anvil]

[storm lantern]

more like 2 years

[quick birch]

valks hold a niche for ~2 years even longer with long patches tbh

[lunar dew]

WHY DID SOMEONE TELL ME 2 PATCHES?!

[quick birch]

they were probably referring to shill

[amber finch]

someone active tell me smh, im oldge now

[storm lantern]

there are only 3(?) more s ranks for the year

[amber finch]

who said that

[storm lantern]

barely even possible to powercreep her in two patches

[amber finch]

thats like a massive pile of doggo poopoo

[lunar dew]

someone like when i first made my account, That or i just thought they because washed up when the new valks come out.

[amber finch]

tbf we did have a powercreep in one patch before, asuka

[sweet flax]

Asuka was shit though major diff

[amber finch]

hey she was crazy for one patch

[sweet flax]

Crazy shit

[amber finch]

fork you

[quick birch]

shill is a period of time where the valk is favored in abyss, that one is 2-3 patches long most of the time. For example dudu had many bosses this patch because her shill is still there since she released last version ( and she got a rerun )

[sweet flax]

No u

[lunar dew]

but wouldnt it like make more sense that they would powercreep her if shes too powerful?

[amber finch]

nuh uh

[sweet flax]

Yuh uh

[amber finch]

no what

also we have beta

she’ll be tweaked if they deem her too broken

[lunar dew]

sorry if im coming off slow but like im confused now

[sweet flax]

That's where shill comes in, giving units the opportunity to shine or diminish depending on hoyo's mood

[lunar dew]

okay so second question.
Are old valks still somewhat playable in some game modes or after the 2 years they just come off as unusable

[storm lantern]

yeah theres not really any character that can make your account good by itself, even this patch a lot of bosses are not fws's

[amber finch]

remember when hoyo randomly decided to shill phys for like 4-5 patches

[sweet flax]

Depends how old and which ones

[storm lantern]

they do different things

especially new sushang

[sweet flax]

Relatively older valks still have use but demand high investment to be on par or worse than newer options

[quick birch]

valks will at least always be somewhat usable in ER but that doesnt really matter since you can clear that with coralie EZ

otherwise depends on the valk

[amber finch]

oh wait is bloop the guy who ranted about valks who have core in #🎮honkai-chat

brb lemme search his message

[lunar dew]

not really a rant
i just think its a cool idea is all

[amber finch]

owh yeah you are

im very sad honkai impact 3rd isnt like genshin (hear me out)
the reason why i say this is the idea of cores and buffing old valks to be meta again. Its such a good idea too

[sweet flax]

Was cores the stuff with like yamabuki

[lyric anvil]

[amber finch]

yeah

[lyric anvil]

Valkyrie Ranger

[sweet flax]

[amber finch]

also genshin has cores?

[sweet flax]

Ye true, can't get valks who's acronyms are stfu anymore

[lunar dew]

no

[amber finch]

thats actually interesting

oh nvm then

[storm lantern]

we need to have special upgraded versions of old valk weapons

[sweet flax]

You think genshin does chara design (we are off topic)

[storm lantern]

so they come back into meta

[lunar dew]

this is what im saying

[sweet flax]

Anyways let's either stop the convo here or continue in #🎮honkai-chat

[amber finch]

we’re fine dont worry (we’re gonna be dead in 3 hours)

[amber finch]

so a dkey

[storm lantern]

no you just upgrade it with other resources

[amber finch]

anyways imma lurk or pong me for da convo

[amber finch]

eh thats boring

[sweet flax]

So pri-arms

[amber finch]

also yeah pri arms

[storm lantern]

yeah pri arms

[lunar dew]

i have no clue whats going on anymore

[amber finch]

you’re describing an already existing system

[sweet flax]

I think kanbaeru wants kmb to be meta again

[storm lantern]

yeah that got changed to just be the default

[sweet flax]

[amber finch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-meme-smack-hit-gif-14682331153624420698

[storm lantern]

instead of how the system was introduced

[amber finch]

oop wrong cat slap

[storm lantern]

i dont want any kiana battlesuit to be meta

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smacking-other-cat-cat-cat-smack-cat-swat-gif-10347810988835752163

[amber finch]

hey only i can use that

[sweet flax]

Don't mention that to lyo

[amber finch]

i almost forgot about the no story spoilers rool in this channel

[lunar dew]

i still dont know why i said genshin. I think it was more on the fact that even with old outdated characters you can still complete the hardest stuff in that game

[sweet flax]

not spoiling makes the joke funnier

Hov is considered a kiana battlesuit ingame

[amber finch]

because you arent fighting against real players in that game

[lunar dew]

anyway back on topic WOOO 5 dorm cards!

[storm lantern]

it is actually just because the game is solely pve

[amber finch]

some old battlesuits can still clear the highest difficulty abyss but expecting them to retain is just funny

[amber finch]

save them for spending events btw

[sweet flax]

Me retaining with da on fov weather

[lunar dew]

yeah im going to

[amber finch]

me promoting with da on fov

[sweet flax]

Lel

[amber finch]

tbf it was a3 but it was sea a3 so its basically eu myriad

[sweet flax]

I can't get higher than barely retaining in nirv

[amber finch]

[sweet flax]

[narrow coyote]

What should I do with this?

[lunar dew]

i guess i thought like when character become outdated or not 4/4 they wouldnt be as good as they could or something
im very new to the game and most characters i enjoy playing with came out when pt1 was still happening.

[sweet flax]

Save them for event item reruns through time capsule

[odd plume]

wait for time capsule shop, they sell old event stuffs for collection

[amber finch]

waiting til a time limited shop comes and just buy stuffs with it (the items are all shits)

[storm lantern]

you just save them until the shop opens, dont really have to worry about income

[odd plume]

[amber finch]

they’re mostly for collection

[sweet flax]

[narrow coyote]

I got pinged 4 times💀

[amber finch]

ong new doro

[odd plume]

not enough ping

[quick birch]

lyo blessed us with this

[lyric anvil]

[amber finch]

record was 7 or smt right

[storm lantern]

i think theres some "useful" stuff like susannah overtime but pretty sure they cost asterite

[sweet flax]

Still need a doro vita emote and call it dorito

[quick birch]

actually genius holy shit

[lyric anvil]

Yes

[amber finch]

the stuffs that cost the homu tokens are dogshit basically

[narrow coyote]

How it is? I brought new outfit for raiden mei

[amber finch]

uh cool i guess?

[sweet flax]

Cool outfit, surely valk is better now

[amber finch]

what do you want me to say lmao

[sweet flax]

[storm lantern]

if you like it it's good i guess