👶beginner-help

[wispy aurora]

When I get them from Gatcha which one do they go to for witch orbs?

[frozen crypt]

Not sure what you mean by that tbh

!faq wo

[small willow]

Did you mean

FAQ id:106 tags:witch orbs, witch's corridor, wo
FAQ id:108 tags:pure witch orb, pure witch orbs, pwo

[small willow]

Witch Orbs

Hi, Captain!

After successfully upgrading a B/A-Rank Valkyrie to SSS, the Witch's Corridor shop will be unlocked. Any more fragments you obtain from this Valkyrie can be converted into Witch Orbs (wo) via Equip > Fragments > Convert (above Salvage, bottom right).

Conversions:
B-rank valk frag => 30 wo
A-rank valk frag => 60 wo
A-rank Awakening valk frag => 40 wo
A-rank SP valk frag => 80 wo

Here, you can buy everything shown in the image below. The recommendation is to strictly buy Normal Crystal Cores.

[wispy aurora]

Like the purple or gold one

[frozen crypt]

Oh purple

[wispy aurora]

Damn

[quick birch]

Excess fragments from gacha don't turn into witch orbs but more supply shop currency iirc

[wispy aurora]

The dream didn't exist

[frozen crypt]

Also yeah that's correct mango

!faq stardust

[small willow]

Supply Shop

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Supply Shop purchase priority!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[frozen crypt]

15 per card

[wispy aurora]

Oh they turn into SD?

[frozen crypt]

If you get them from gacha after you hit SSS yes

[wispy aurora]

Sadge

[frozen crypt]

Not sadge, that currency is better than witch orbs

Witch orbs really aren't that useful outside of ncc

[wispy aurora]

Im playing catch up low key so was hoping to get stamps or frags

[solar drum]

is there a way increase the adventure level outside of the weekly tasks

or i have to wait a whole two days to do the tasks

[quick birch]

You wait

[solar drum]

[quick birch]

If you still have multiple OW unlocked each will give you progress to your adventure task level otherwise sleep until adventure task reset

[solar drum]

the side mission stuff?

can returnee weapon banner stigs convert into reso?

[quick birch]

Now when you first unlock OWs they stay unlocked for 2-3 weeks after that you can only choose one per week

[quick birch]

Ig they should but why would you pull on that

[solar drum]

just wondering

[quick birch]

If you need stigmata resonance just craft kallen pledge and convert it into stigmata resonance

[neat crow]

is it even worth it to craft weapons/stigma in foundry?

[quick birch]

Well that depends, crafting prism stigmatas if you didn't get the 3pc from pulling the weapon yes, upgrading a normal weapon for a char you frequently use to a pri arm yes. There are also some useful things in foundry like a dkey ( pledge of Sakura ) or some stigs that find use in MA but crafting G4 Stigmatas for example isn't really worth it most if the time

But it's all situational in the end

[neat crow]

makes sense cause rn im using wishing star kiana, coralie, and AE, was wondering if i could craft them stigmas

[quick birch]

Without any P1 infrastructure the most notable things are the Dkey pledge of Sakura and crafting 4 bounty weapons for oath of Judah from exchange shop

[quick birch]

Well you should have gotten Kiana's Stigmatas from pulling on her weapon banner, otherwise it depends on your prism count if you can afford coralies and Kiana's Stigmatas for AE you can just use a generic support set like gluttony T fu hua musician MB which you should have gotten from starter manual

[neat crow]

which one is coralie's? kiana is already 4/4 so i dont need to worry about her, and ill prob do what you said for AE

[quick birch]

Tsiolkovsky, you'd want at least enough for next patch ( 21 prism ) before considering crafting it || we should also get 9 prism and 1800 ether fuel next patch from a Mail that would be enough to craft coralies set ||

[neat crow]

(sorry for all these questions) so coralie's set is avaliable in the foundry?

[quick birch]

Yes all p2 Chars stigmatas are, they are under the category prism stigmatas

But prisms can be a resource that you may not have enough at some point so I would spend it rather carefully

Hence why I recommend to at least keep 21 prism in the pocket for next patch since it requires 21 prism to upgrade 3 Stigmatas to lvl 50

[neat crow]

okay! thank you so much ;-; just hope im not getting annoying with all the questions 😅

[hardy venture]

What are the other methods to get self ego character? I accidentally got her bow bc I’ve mistaken her with miss pink elf ( or is there an alternative character tjat uses the same bow )

[runic canopy]

Self Ego...?

Herrscher of Human Ego?

If that one, currently no way to obtain her.

[haughty elbow]

level rush

[hardy venture]

Yess, sorry

[runic canopy]

@hardy venture

[glossy thunder]

aside from story what should I spend stamina on? I've only just finished chapter 3 so I don't have a lot unlocked but I'd like something to dump my stamina into before bed if possible

[haughty elbow]

adventure tasks

[glossy thunder]

just beat chapter 3 and at level 23 I don't got those yet

[keen solar]

I have 4 valk and cleared all map

Is that a good start?

[odd plume]

?

good start for what

by cleared all map, you mean story?

doesnt seem like a new account, so im not sure what you mean by good start

[steep scroll]

what does it mean? the er one

[thick bolt]

Do deep sequence in ER at 1.5x difficulty

[steep scroll]

oh. will it count if i do it at max diff?

[thick bolt]

It should

[steep scroll]

fair

[urban lake]

also it might not count if you're doing it on lite mode

[glossy thunder]

can weekday material stages only be completed once a day?

[odd plume]

can buy more attempt if you have this

[glossy thunder]

but generally I should aim to do the one attempt per day?

[odd plume]

yes

do the highest one that is available

[glossy thunder]

okay, just trying to figure out all the daily things I need done before bed

already did the point daily rewards, and not sure what to dump my stamina on

[odd plume]

expedition in the dorm

do the AE imaginon one

[glossy thunder]

I did the weekday material stage, do I do this one as well?

[glossy thunder]

I’m not seeing it as an option

the AE imaginon one I mean, I see the expedition menu

[odd plume]

yes, do all 4 daily stages like in this picture @glossy thunder

[odd plume]

in the picture above, you also see expedition option, it's for manual clear
once you 3* a stage manually, it will appear in the dorm, so you can do afk farming there

clear AE imaginon stage first

[glossy thunder]

I’m not seeing that available, just battlesuit fragments then something called befall weapons

[odd plume]

scroll to the right, still nothing?

lv locked then, maybe 30 or 40

okay, just checked, should be lv40

[glossy thunder]

Yeah, I’m only 25 and don’t really feel like pushing it this late

[odd plume]

just dump stam on any expedition stage that have shifter then

[glossy thunder]

these are the expeditions I have available, anything else I should dump on?

[odd plume]

or do p1 story for fast lvling

[glossy thunder]

shitfer?

[odd plume]

mistype

[glossy thunder]

I’m just looking to dump and go to bed, saving story for when the brain actually works

what does shifter mean though

[odd plume]

that item name

[glossy thunder]

ah

I’m not seeing any that give shifters

[odd plume]

[glossy thunder]

huh, menu doesn’t look like that for me

[odd plume]

it's the dorm expedition

[dusky sapphire]

Those crystals

[odd plume]

drop is the same for both expedition tho

[dusky sapphire]

[primal heron]

whale hsien saving for p3

[glossy thunder]

It’s only showing first clear drops for me

[odd plume]

havent cleared any?

just clear it first then

[glossy thunder]

ah dang, requires minimum 3 valks to do dorm expedition I only have 2

just do it manually then?

and stick with just doing swallowtail stages?

[odd plume]

you mean only 2 left? cause you shouldnt only have 2 at that lv

[glossy thunder]

no just 2

[odd plume]

how

[glossy thunder]

the b rank kiana and mei

I haven’t pulled

and just started earlier today

[odd plume]

you didnt do tutorial pull?

[glossy thunder]

no, thought I’d wait till I get a dorm card and use that instead so I can use the 200 gems elsewhere

[odd plume]

starter manual also have several free valk

[odd plume]

get a sensei for dorm card

[glossy thunder]

those require doing pulls I haven’t done yet

[glossy thunder]

how does one go about doing that

[odd plume]

just go to chat room 1, click on random person profile, then click this button

[lyric anvil]

[odd plume]

dont read what they say btw

or ask if anyone here want a cadet

[glossy thunder]

mkay

[glossy thunder]

do I still do this though

[odd plume]

nothing wrong with dumping stam on that

[lyric anvil]

Pretty good way to get phase shifters

[odd plume]

for now

[glossy thunder]

the act 2 stage takes more stamina, should I do another battlesuit’s act 1 stages instead if I’m just doing them for shifters?

or is the stamina spent in proportion to the rewards

[odd plume]

good, you want to clear all of them for first time reward anyway

but it's kinda just like clearing story but less reward

[lyric anvil]

To me mostly worth for xtal

[glossy thunder]

so do everything at least once anyways

[odd plume]

there are min-maxing but dont need to worry about it now

at least till you cleared everything

[glossy thunder]

kk

[urban lake]

hey man a question, can you tell me what rank in Abyss are you, in lvl 81+ Abyss

sry fo run releated question

lemme ping in honkek chat

[quick birch]

lah iirc he just started

[urban lake]

oh-

[vague lily]

Is turning on Buffed Mode a viable option? I'm not really confident some of my characters can clear the SSS rank Memorial Arena fights within the said time limit or with a good amount of points.

[runic canopy]

Yes, you can at least get 20 crystals with that. But not all prizes will be obtained like Ancient Legacy.
Iir, the highest score in buffed mode is 46k something.

[sweet flax]

Could always use training mode to get an idea of your score

[amber finch]

dont mald in training mode

[sweet flax]

Not mald, just a quick run shouldn't take that long

If you clear comfortably no need for buffed mode get the most rewards

[vague lily]

I used the Buffed Mode and got around 39000 points roughly.

[odd plume]

if you can clear under 1 min with buffed mode, can think about turning it off

[hasty bobcat]

Lowkey don’t care to play hi3 much but I gotta get the beginner rewards since I started so just 43 more days…

[runic canopy]

Hello, anything you need help with?

[odd plume]

for random talk, pls go to #🎮honkai-chat

[vague lily]

Does the drop rate for S rank characters increase when the pity is in a certain range or is it the same throughout.

[autumn oxide]

officially no such thing as soft pity but theres data to suggest that there is

[quick birch]

based on that data soft pity starts at ~76

[ancient needle]

Ofc pls don't rely on that

[quick birch]

^

its not nearly as impossible to hit pity in hi3 as in other hoyo/gacha games

[frozen crypt]

!faq rates

[small willow]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[frozen crypt]

O I'm late af

[languid beacon]

Any recommendation on what to get on BP works as F2P? I have only 20.

I have 7T as D-key.

[ancient needle]

Well, are any of the stig sets partially/fully finished?

And do you have any of the other weaps

[languid beacon]

I have full set Bronya Zaychik and the sig weapon of HoTr as well.

The rest, I don't have.
Unfortunately, I don't have HoRb as a character as well.

[ancient needle]

What about Cez? And do you have Susannah: Overtime (T)

[languid beacon]

I have full Cez too. I have also Susannah Overtime (T).

[autumn oxide]

rl or nirv player

probs rl

[ancient needle]

Ala M will be great on SI then (it's better than Cez M when supporting non-Bleed Phys, this can be useful for SS MA strats)
Ala MB is considerable if you're planning to get Sushang, iirc Vita uses Ovt T Ala MB instead of her sig there

[languid beacon]

RL, yep yep. I only stepped on nirv once, and can't go back because of disturbances on RL now is equivalent to nirv back on the old days- 😆

[autumn oxide]

consider 2pc ala (mb) for bleed supp (ce dps)
also can consider vq weap for ss ma runs (usually runs avo tm and some b, depending on strat it can vary)
can also consider hrb weap just in case they give her free in the future then u can rock 1/4 sswords for crit shit and ovt holmes mb for bleed

[languid beacon]

no sswords for me though- and no holmes in the year 2025, i didn't craft anything like that- XD ~

[silent tulip]

Hi, is there any good beginners guide to follow I'm new to the game and I don't understand shit

[quick birch]

just ask us if you dont understand something feel confused or smth else

[silent tulip]

oh thanks

[rotund pasture]

So in theory trio is perfect for this stage (different elemental types) but in practice- ig its powercreep?

[ancient needle]

Yes, dkeyless trio is hella old

• I assume you don't have HoO and HoTr ranks

[ancient needle]

Though it shouldn't be that bad

[haughty elbow]

trio in practice is the best

[ancient needle]

Dkeyless?

[haughty elbow]

no

[rotund pasture]

Yes

[ancient needle]

Well, they're running dkeyless

[haughty elbow]

dkeyless trio isnt even a real team anymore

[ancient needle]

Anyway, just run a P2 team if you have any

[rotund pasture]

It is… hotrs weird qte cooldown is just ruining my rots

[ancient needle]

You don't want HoTr's QTE to be on though unless she's weapless

Also I don't see how it could be ruining your rots

[low steppe]

Hi! Any new player guide?

[rotund pasture]

The countdown goes down at different speeds, ive made sure im not skipping anything in the rot but still, sometimes shes still on cd by the time i get to hofi

[ancient needle]

The pins here, this is a good starting point: #👶beginner-help message

[ancient needle]

To me it sounds like your rot is straight up wrong, describe/record it

[low steppe]

Is the support starting team still a strategy?

[thick bolt]

it is one of the early options yeah

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[thick bolt]

some examples, ignoring silverwing

[urban lake]

u remembered

[low steppe]

Is there a doc or a site with all the informations? Pins seem hard to work with

[ancient needle]

Unfortunately not

[low steppe]

Also the link does not work

[ancient needle]

Everything works for me, lemme link it differently for ya

[urban lake]

seems to work for me?

[ancient needle]

https://imgur.com/a/2BYLj8j
#👶beginner-help message

Replace Silverwing with HoHE if you have her, otherwise just ignore that

[low steppe]

Vpn was blocking it

[urban lake]

[ancient needle]

That's a very interesting VPN

[rotund pasture]

HoTr skill nas ult ca ult
HoFi skill ca
HoO skill dash ca ult
HoFi skill ca hold evade (or ult)
HoTr 🔁

[ancient needle]

Yeah, that's correct, I don't see how you can run into HoTr CD issues though

[low steppe]

So for new account I push story till I get the free valk selects for now?

[ivory monolith]

Is Parfodelis good?Coz I got her used her in the story and I really like her so is it a good idea if I main her till I get Elysia HoH

[frozen crypt]

Uhh the free valk selectors aren't really a goal that you need to hit to progress? You end up keeping both for later because you can use asterite valks to clear earlygame stuff by utilising Hsien's beginner team comps which I will link shortly

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[frozen crypt]

There's no such thing as maining in this game really so avoid using that terminology but yeah pardo is very good for beginner accounts due to the total damage taken debuff on her purple combo and ult. Regarding HoH, are you a casual player who just really likes elysia? HoH is not recommended and is quite difficult to get now

[quick birch]

area 1 #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message
area 2 #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message
area 3 #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message
these are all the perfect scores for the web event if you meant that.

you can also press tip on the top right corner it shows you a placement enough to at least clear the stage

[low steppe]

How will I get these valks?

[frozen crypt]

Asterite shop mostly

[ivory monolith]

Yeah I really like her and I know that I have to wait until she gets a rerun but I'm going to buy the bundle beginner bundle to get her when I hit level 40 (I'm level 35 so I'll buy it as soon as I get level 40 !)

[quick birch]

HoHe wont get a rerun at this point or are you talking about her new weapon

[low steppe]

Ok I don’t have the shop yet

[frozen crypt]

keep in mind RC and JK are free from the starter event btw

[frozen crypt]

wow how early are you

[ivory monolith]

Hmm tbh idk bc as a beginner I have an event where I can get a free uh key or something ?Maybe u want a screenshot ?

[frozen crypt]

Thats the bad weapon

She got a new one which makes her way better

Key of Ego I think you are referring to

[quick birch]

key of ego ? yeah she needs her new weapon which makes her gain acess to the astral ring system which is mandatory to be somehow relevant in p2 team building.

[frozen crypt]

!faq wep

[small willow]

Beginner Weapon Option

Hi, Captain!

Ai-chan recommends that you choose Nocturnal Stealth (see icon) if it is available. If not, please choose Key of Oblivion.

Please note that you definitely should not rush to PRI-ARM these weapons, they are not a good investment of PRI materials.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[quick birch]

as a beginner pretty much everything will work but as you slowly start to participate in end game content you will notice that many valks will fall off

hence why im already mentioning p2 team building

[ivory monolith]

Oh

But she can still perform well?

[frozen crypt]

HoH? Yeah but realistically only with her new weapon and 2x Harmonized Shadow Star teammates

And in the future you will definitely want ranks on her as well if they become accessible for you

[quick birch]

she just get her new weapon this patch so she's is rather new yes, you wont be able to compete on her bosses though due to others having more ranks and better teammates, she does have some decent support capabilities with 1 still being unknown

[ivory monolith]

What's her new weapon tho

[low steppe]

Fresh account:) I want to have a hoyo account for all platforms

[quick birch]

Flawless Benediction

[frozen crypt]

Its a divine key weapon

[frozen crypt]

Asterite shop should unlock very early lvl 20ish, ig just churn story for now

[ivory monolith]

How can I get it ?With gacha ?Bc I still don't understand the divine keys tbh

[quick birch]

yes with gacha

[ivory monolith]

I saw the divine keys in the dorm but I don't rlly remember that part except maybe like some kinds of expeditions with 2 other players

[frozen crypt]

Yes that one will rerun in gacha at some point

[ivory monolith]

Dang

[quick birch]

|| rerun is already next patch actually ||

[ivory monolith]

In 8.2 ?

[frozen crypt]

Different dkeys have different ways of obtianing them, some a free, some are farmable, some are gacha, some are ||bp starting 8.2||

[low steppe]

Any good abbreviation list with images?

[frozen crypt]

!faq abb

[small willow]

Abbreviations

Hey there, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's Visual Guide for using the Glossary [here](#👶beginner-help message) if you are struggling to use it (applies to both PC and Mobile).

What is RC? What is AW? What is this alien language???

The Glossary of Terms is here to help you, please use it!

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Terms

How to search:

1. CTRL + F (on mobile, click the three dots icon and search via "Find in Page")
2. Enter abbreviation of choice e.g. "RC"
3. Add a space after (and optionally before) to filter out words e.g. "RC " or " RC "
4. Hit enter
5. Your abbreviation should be found!

[frozen crypt]

Don't think one exists with images you'll have to do that yourself just googling the character name

[ivory monolith]

Lord ig I will comeback when I hit lvl 50 lmao

[frozen crypt]

Huh?

The lvl 50 that is mentioned several times in that faq does not refer to your account level

[ivory monolith]

What.

[frozen crypt]

Maybe read it again?

[ivory monolith]

Yeah but they're only unlockable after lvl 50 am I right ?

[quick birch]

yes, be aware that we dont recommend backpulling in general though, maybe you can evaluate yourself if you desperately want to use HoHe if thats the case i dont think this is the wort backpull since she can support LoA and the new ar type.

just give this a read for why and you have to evaluate if that is worth it for you

[ivory monolith]

Oh ok

It's basically dps in every gacha

Only pull when they come out

[frozen crypt]

No, realms of battle unlocks at lvl 35 which gives divine keys so its definitely not level 50

[ivory monolith]

Yeah ik but tbh I downloaded the game for her sooo

[ivory monolith]

What

Wait a sec

What does that mean then

[frozen crypt]

O.o

[ivory monolith]

[frozen crypt]

How was I not aware of that, why is hoyo giving out dkeys before the system unlocks lol

[quick birch]

if you are dedicated to her its up to you we are just here to inform you about the trade offs and what the general meta suggestion would be since our advices are based on meta most of the time unless the players specifically states that they dont care that much about meta, be aware that your abyss performance will influence your crystal income though

[frozen crypt]

Well I guess you might be right then lol, but lvl 50 should take you a few days at most so not to worry

[frozen crypt]

Tbf I think the most realistic way to get HoH is ||BP, she will be in the perma BP shop which is unlocked for f2p players but it will take a while|| until you can do that maybe you can be on the lookout for some part 2 valks with "Harmonized Shadow Star" tag, it depends if you want your entire acc to revolve around HoH or if you want to build her as a side project while pulling for better valks

[ivory monolith]

Tbh I want my account to revolve around her

I would say she's one of my favs in the Hoyo games so

[frozen crypt]

That's fine but be aware that its much easier to go from meta to casual than the other way around just in case you do become interested in the competitive side of the game, especially since abyss rank impacts your crystal income

[ivory monolith]

Tbh I don't know to answer to that without feeling rude bc I'm lacking some vocabulary but I really appreciate ur help

[frozen crypt]

In your case just save crystals for a HoH dkey rerun though, you'll need 16k worst case

[ivory monolith]

Yeah I did that in genshin from pulling supports for the meta to pulling cons for a special character

[frozen crypt]

After that the problem is actually getting her

[ivory monolith]

Yeah but like I previously said I'm buying her a 100%

[sweet flax]

Wouldn't|| leap banner ||be fine in this case? They'd have a very good hohe supp and a decent brute forcer for abyss assuming they've saved enough

[frozen crypt]

Possibly yes

Depends how many xtals

Is HoH still in level rush?

[sweet flax]

Ye, but with beginner rewards and p2 pity being lower its doable

[ivory monolith]

What's leap banner sorry

[sweet flax]

This patch yes, idk about next but it shouldn't change

[quick birch]

in this game p2 S ranks chars ( chars from 7.3 and onward ) are both support and dps, this may seem a bit overwhelming at first but you will get used to it eventually

[quick birch]

iirc the official translation is out and its ascension supply

[frozen crypt]

That bundle is extremely good and will solve the huge problem of getting her if you are in a position where you can afford the bchips

[sweet flax]

Ah is it

[quick birch]

wait lemme find the post real quick

lol coppied the wrong msg

[ivory monolith]

Well I don't have a job bc of my age yet but I can definitely afford a 15€ pack so I'm buying it

Also the next 3000 crystals I'm getting are for her skin sooo

[quick birch]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message

[frozen crypt]

As long as you're sure

Oh the skin right, it needs 7.6k

[ivory monolith]

Yeah but I'm already on hard pity..

[frozen crypt]

Thats fine you made the right decision

When skins become discounted they become extremely high risk of not rerunning again for actual years

[ivory monolith]

Yeah coz I guess the skin will be gone for a long time

Yeah that's what I thought

[quick birch]

frigid

[heady relic]

Frigid was a definite edge case

[ivory monolith]

Is it the HoV skin ?

[heady relic]

That it is

[ivory monolith]

I have no idea what I'm talking about

[heady relic]

[frozen crypt]

Yes. For example, I skipped Frigid Empress in 2020 because "I'll get it next year" and it didn't rerun until 2024 :/

[ivory monolith]

Also, now that I have determined to u guys that I want to make HoH the face of my account is using Parfodelis mandatory ?Bc I saw she's in her team recommendation

[frozen crypt]

But frigid had some drama surrounding it so probably an exceptional case we think

[ivory monolith]

Dang

[frozen crypt]

Ignore in-game recommendations

[ivory monolith]

Oh

[frozen crypt]

Her team completely changed due to the new weapon

[quick birch]

nope with her new weapon thelema+vita/senadina would be her teammates

[ivory monolith]

Omg I love Senadina

[naive pivot]

[ivory monolith]

Wanted to pull on her banner (beginner ) but u guys from here told me to not do so

[frozen crypt]

Yea she's not recommended so nobody would tell you to pull her unless they knew this full context of you wanting to base your entire account around a HoH team

And even then if you did pull sena, you would have fucked up your HoH outfit funds as well as your HoH dkey funds

[ivory monolith]

Btw are there some endgame where I need 2 teams coz ig that would create a problem in the future

[frozen crypt]

3 actually

[ivory monolith]

Thank God I didn't do it

[frozen crypt]

The memorial arena gamemode has 3 bosses which locks your valks meaning you need to use 9 different valks per week

And !faq backpull explains why maining is not really possible if you want me to pull it up

[ivory monolith]

Does the banner leave at some point ?Or I can pull when I have everything I have for HoH

[frozen crypt]

Which banner?

Sena?

[ivory monolith]

Ye

[frozen crypt]

Yeah it will leave when your starter status expires

Its something like 80 days

[ivory monolith]

Dang

Oh yeah 86 for me

!faqbackpull

Oh I'm dying of embarrassment

[frozen crypt]

!faq backpull

[small willow]

What is 'Backpulling'?

Captain! Ai-chan can help!

'Backpulling' refers to pulling a Valkyrie or her equipment (or both!) on a rerun instead of on her release.

For more information on why this is considered damaging to an account for Captains who want to pursue meta in the game, click [here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[ivory monolith]

Oh ty

[frozen crypt]

Wait no im stupid

Its not that one

!faq main

[small willow]

Picking your Honkai Main!

Hi, Captain!

You can't really "main" a character in Honkai Impact 3rd. Please don't mislead others by using this terminology in the help channels.

Take note of how you don't have a team on the home screen, but instead you are prompted to choose your Valkyries and equipment when you start a stage? That's because what is "best" on each stage depends on many factors such as boss mechanics, weather buffs, type counter, time fracture, etc.

You don't need to make "a good team" or pick "a main". You need answers to every situation in the game!

If you try to main one Valkyrie, you'll eat approximately 50% less damage due to weather or boss effects. Not to mention that you can't even use the same Valkyrie on two Arena bosses in the same week, so you are forced to use 9 Valkyries for every MA week!

[quick birch]

its fine lmao its common to see new ppl do that, only prof or above can pull up faqs

[frozen crypt]

Its this

But faq backpull also explains how the meta works a bit

[ivory monolith]

Oh that's what u told me earlier @quick birch

[frozen crypt]

Ye xd

[ivory monolith]

Wait. There are weather buffs?

[quick birch]

yes

[opal ingot]

can I be a Visa main?

I hear she's really good

[frozen crypt]

Yeah visa chan is the strongest valkyrie

[sweet flax]

Swiping visa chan on your account garuntees proper progression with gacha

[opal ingot]

I was thinking of getting Discover and American Express as supports

[sweet flax]

[frozen crypt]

Ya thats a good team

[ivory monolith]

Heard Amex is really good u can us her in different servers

[swift ore]

get a Chase aop

[opal ingot]

wow so OP

[ivory monolith]

Yeah ikr

[frozen crypt]

[amber finch]

erm offtopic

[opal ingot]

??? I was getting team comp help

[amber finch]

lyo as a moderator you should be more wary of these issues

[swift ore]

oh oops mb I thought it was honkai chat

[sweet flax]

banks in a gacha game is off topic? (it is, but let the joke die naturally, its not doing anything too bad xd)

[swift ore]

sorry

[amber finch]

i will demoot you

[amber finch]

nuh uh

[ivory monolith]

Erm actually I have a question 🤓

[sweet flax]

go for it

[amber finch]

cool go for it then

[opal ingot]

the rules are that you have to ask if it's ok to ask a question first

😤

[amber finch]

shh pootz dont say it out loud

also thats a long question

[ivory monolith]

Is Eden good ?Or HoO bc I like both of them so like maybe for a second team(I know there's not really teams in the games but Lyo explained that there's a game mode where u need 9 valks so...)

Why are u here again

[amber finch]

no and not worth the investment and there are teams in the game

[ivory monolith]

Oh

[sweet flax]

remember how we mentioned weathers earlier?

eden and hoo are mainly used in very specific weathers, hoo mainly being used as hofi's support in herrscher trio, or as a dps with eden as her support
unfortunately those teams require high investment while it is also less frequently appearing

[quick birch]

we have teams in this game, they have their bosses but that is a very niche situation. HoO also is unobtainable at the moment

[sweet flax]

as mentioned, its not worth investing into them in favor of spending resources on more beneficial units

[frozen crypt]

Problem with eden is she needs SSS and full g4 stigmata and with HoO she's extremely hard to get and gear

[ivory monolith]

Oh hell nah I ain't putting my crystals for her until I don't have maxed HoH

[sweet flax]

tbf she doesnt use handel with hoo iirc

[amber finch]

also not worth the investment unless thats a simp move or smt

[ivory monolith]

Simp

[frozen crypt]

Theyre casual

[quick birch]

turg TB mei M aint it ?

[ivory monolith]

[amber finch]

that explains it

[frozen crypt]

Depends if you're using HoFi or not I think

[sweet flax]

kinda depends on a lot of factors, but with hoo dps ive seen that ye (and hoo would be on 7t + zhenyi tb)

[ivory monolith]

Hmm also since HoH is getting a rerun should I pull her stigmatas?I didn't really understand if she's getting her rerun or just her weapon ik it's rlly basic but

[amber finch]

no

[sweet flax]

im not too sure of the cases where handel is better myself so i'd probs ask someone else who knows more just to be safe from misinfo

[frozen crypt]

The dkey weapon rerun will include the stigmata

[amber finch]

her p2 stigs are craftable

[ivory monolith]

Wait what

[frozen crypt]

You will likely get full solon before the weapon, so don't craft solon until you own flawless benediction

[quick birch]

HoHe isnt getting a rerun its her weapon, you will probably pull the stigmatas while pulling the weapon if not they are craftable

[amber finch]

also dont craft them before you get the weap

[frozen crypt]

Again your only viable way to get HoH relatively quickly is level rush

[ivory monolith]

Understood!

[amber finch]

you’re gonna be amazed to see how mid she is very pretti tho

[frozen crypt]

She's too old to get reruns so you can't even hope for a normal rerun atp

[sweet flax]

im assuming it was already mentioned she isnt getting anymore banners

[frozen crypt]

I think yea

[ivory monolith]

😀😀

All for Elysia 🙏🏻

[storm lantern]

isnt she ||going into bp||

[frozen crypt]

||yes but that will genuinely take a year for f2p players to get||

[amber finch]

also rush more worth it tbh

[quick birch]

||yeah but to get her from that will take about a year for f2ps ||

[amber finch]

unless new bp is somehow better

[frozen crypt]

Btw on the topic of elysia maybe you could buy (not real money dw) her other battlesuit from war treasury and HoS to support her and try and make that work as a 2nd team

[sweet flax]

why do you have the new person icon

[storm lantern]

i left for a while so i would spend less time on the game

[sweet flax]

should've kept running

[storm lantern]

true

i actually demoted to a3 bc of the slack

[sweet flax]

damn only a3?

[frozen crypt]

Slacked for 4 hours

[storm lantern]

i did pull the shill unit so

[sweet flax]

would I ever conisder buying ncc atp since I no longer spend these?

[ivory monolith]

Yeah I bought her on my Europe account before switching to NA to begin a new acc

[amber finch]

im doing it rn gold ncc is too expensive tho so i dont do that

[frozen crypt]

If u wanna be really competitive with affixes yeah but its not great to go broke for ncc constantly, keep some in reserve

Keep at least 10m coins and I'd say 100k asterite something like that?

I personally don't even bother with that shit anymore

[sweet flax]

ye, I dont think there's a reason to keep going for helia sync3 atp and my sp units are all ungeared anyways (or only weapon)

so not like I have much use for asterite

[storm lantern]

affixing takes too much time menuing

[amber finch]

im trying to fix my song and vita’s shitfixes

[frozen crypt]

Constantly in affix lock poverty

[sweet flax]

doomed to keep rerolling

[frozen crypt]

And I'm too busy SSSing all the wt valks to farm locks with pwo and ancient currencies

[amber finch]

[sweet flax]

oh 100k asterite?

[frozen crypt]

Yeah I'd say so

Just in case some stupid shit comes back in time capsule

[storm lantern]

oh yeah ||how many pwo am i gonna need for hohe stamps, unlocking first sss next week||

[frozen crypt]

Errrr lemme see if my faq helps

!faq pwo

[small willow]

Pure Witch Orb

Hi, Captain!

After successfully upgrading an S-Rank Valkyrie to SSS, the "Pure Witch Orb" section of the Witch's Corridor shop will be unlocked. Like normal Witch Orbs, any more fragments you obtain from this Valkyrie can be converted into Pure Witch Orbs (pwo) via Equip > Fragments > Convert (above Salvage, bottom right).

Conversions:

• S-rank valk frag => 50 pwo
• S-rank Awakening valk frag => 30 pwo

Here, you can buy everything shown in the image below. Occasionally new stamps get added to this shop. The recommendation is to buy Wafer Stabilizers, but you may also buy stamps of your choice or even Wafer Dataflows if you are pushing for 23 ATK affix lines.

[storm lantern]

🙁

[frozen crypt]

20k? Thats a fucking lot

Pure witch orbs are rough lol

[amber finch]

expensive

[frozen crypt]

Very

[sweet flax]

yikes

you're better off praying for hohe stamps coming in elysian realm atp

[frozen crypt]

Xd

[sweet flax]

2.5k for a single fucking stamp is wild 😭

would I ever remove one of my 21 atk affixes for crit dmg on jds? (she has no crit dmg affixes)

[quick birch]

what some are willing to do for HoO or HoH ranks me

[storm lantern]

i may or may not have also prefarmed whisper

[sweet flax]

you building mpe too?

[storm lantern]

yeah but tmb is gonna take forever

[sweet flax]

tell me about it, I only finished b till now (weapon is still 60)

[amber finch]

if its high cdm

song does prefer some cdm on her affixes

[sweet flax]

hmm

ill try something later, maybe rngesus blesses me

[quick birch]

iirc its also a bit team depending but the difference isnt huge

[ivory monolith]

Quick question what is "Part 2 Chap 1 main story mission : Covenant of Finality" ?Pls don't tell me I have to rush 36 chapters of story

[amber finch]

you dont

[quick birch]

damn

[amber finch]

damn yall quick smh

i was gonna do it

[sweet flax]

you can do part 2 and part 1.5 regardless of p1 story completion (they are considered seperate stories ingame)

[quick birch]

when you do this every day you'll become a forwarding warrior at some point

[ivory monolith]

Yeah but am I not going to like skip the entire p 1 plot ?

[amber finch]

shuddup im old

[quick birch]

p1 and p2 story arent conntected until p2 chapter 3

[ivory monolith]

Coz I really want to learn the lore and I wanted to do every episode in the right order

[amber finch]

you wont understand anything because they arent connected til way later and you’re also skipping basically 7 years of lore

[sweet flax]

imo i'd remember what you read up until you complete the mission, its going to be a basic introduction to the new story and its setting, without major plot points iirc

[amber finch]

yeah that

its not like forcing you into a new story immediately

just an introduction

[sweet flax]

ye, you wont know anything you dont already know in p1 from p2 and vice versa

[ivory monolith]

So I should still read it ?

[amber finch]

and then you can go on with your life

[quick birch]

if you are interested sure

[amber finch]

and if you’re interested in clearing the beginner mission

[sweet flax]

you can yes, another suggestion which I give beginners is rewatching someone playthrough the chapter and reading the texts again if you are trying to avoid knowing anything at all

[ivory monolith]

Oh lord

I forgot I deleted everything bc I thought I had time to do it..

[sweet flax]

or just ask in #📚honkai-lore but there's a bit of spoilers there

[ivory monolith]

Yeah

Also what does " Own any 3 Lv.40 Stigmata" coz I can't upgrade them after 35

[sweet flax]

15k ncc and 1000 stabilizers later and all I get is 23 atk and 17,5 atk stat 😭

[sweet flax]

you can, stigmatas are in parts, lvl 35, lvl 40, lvl 45, lvl 50 (displayed by the stars)

beginners get stigmatas like marco polo or fu hua musician which can be upgraded to lvl 40

[ivory monolith]

Oh yeah mb

[sweet flax]

also, gacha stigmata can be upgraded to lvl 40

so dont level up random stigs, try to only level the ones you need since resources can be scarce for beginners

[ivory monolith]

Got it ty

Wait I can replay the story?

[quick birch]

not everything, you cant replay overworld chapters or p2 story

[ivory monolith]

Ok I will now be reading the p2 story

[sweet flax]

stories that are shown as stages can be replayed (such as majority of part 1) open world story or non-stage stories which is more prevelant near the end of p1 and p2 cannot be replayed, however major story points such as boss fights are replayable (not in p2 afaik)

[ivory monolith]

Can I still watch the cinematics?

[sweet flax]

cutscenes if viewed can be reviewed in your collection tab yes

[ancient needle]

If you haven't skipped them while playing the story yeah

[ivory monolith]

Oh dang it

[ancient needle]

Entering a CG and pressing "skip" is fine, it's just you can accidentally not enter some CGs in the first place when skipping dialogue

If the stage is replayable you can just go through it again to unlock it, otherwise you're cooked

[ivory monolith]

I will do my story very carefully now

Also do we know if one day HI3 will come to console?

[ancient needle]

No info, and that's very unlikely tbh

[ivory monolith]

Why tho

[ancient needle]

Because that won't bring enough profit for the effort

[ivory monolith]

Yeah I understand

They should've done it earlier ?

[ancient needle]

Maybe, maybe not

[dreamy bloom]

hi!! would sushang be a good pull for my acc since she has some of the coverage im missing (bio + bleed) or would it be better to wait for the new astral ring ?? everyone here is 4/4 except horb and vita is s2

[quick birch]

Imo you can definitely go for her bleed is arguably one of the less bruteforcable niches and with that crystal count it's extremely likely if not guaranteed you'll be able to afford both 8.2 + 8.3

[storm lantern]

yeah if you didn't pull you'd have like 75k by 8.3 release

no reason to not pull

[dreamy bloom]

kk thx!!!

[ivory monolith]

So I finally got the costume but I didn't get the box with a free valk so I was wondering if it was worth it to use 2400 crystals for any of those 3

[amber finch]

no, all of them are farmable

and none of them are usable

[ivory monolith]

K so I'm gonna wait for her weapon now

Also I don't remember but bc I'm pulling for her weapon which one should I get ?

[slim blaze]

oh my

[ivory monolith]

What😀

[amber finch]

noc stealth

[ivory monolith]

Am I a 100% guaranteed to get Jade Knight

[amber finch]

yes if you play the game normally

[slim blaze]

oh my

[ivory monolith]

What ?

[sweet flax]

as in you got her before the last pull?

congrats! (you saved yourself a lot of crystal)

[ivory monolith]

Yeah !

[ivory monolith]

Ty !Now I'm just going to put 14.6€ to get HoH 🙏🏻

[sweet flax]

whale

just kidding, just be mindful with your purchases

[ivory monolith]

Yeah

It's the first time I'm putting money on an Hoyo game

Like to get a character

[left vale]

why HoFs?? cant her time fracture be substituted by a support with an actual like support build

[cyan dune]

||is the new Sushang the battle suit i was told would work well with badum?||

[left vale]

i think you have to put a spoiler tag for ||new sushang battlesuit||

idk if she's been revealed for EN yet, i could be very wrong though

oh no shes revealed okay no spoiler needed
my bad

[cyan dune]

i think she is on the banner\

[sweet flax]

she is revealed globally, no need for spoilers

[left vale]

she is in CN. yes, she would work well with badum, seeing as they both have the heavenly shift tag and can support each other

[sweet flax]

yes she works with badum, as for BiS you'd have to wait or check with #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion for the players who already tested it

[left vale]

she would not be BiS afaik

[sweet flax]

global beta opened not too long ago so there's that too

[left vale]

global beta is open??

[sweet flax]

registration at least, idk if it opened opened

ill dbl check

[cyan dune]

oki oki, i was told by somebody resently to save for her cause badum is my first new 4/4 so id see success with sushang

[ancient needle]

She oneshots P1 iirc

[left vale]

yes that would be true. what is your crystal count right now, and do you have any story still incomplete?

[sweet flax]

are you familiar with the reason p2 sushang and badum kiana work together?

[ancient needle]

You don't, she's alr announced (along with extra info like Bleed and shit)

[cyan dune]

like 3k i think. and like 80%+ story left if im lowballing it

[left vale]

oh my

[sweet flax]

[ancient needle]

If you're new you should be able to afford both 8.2 and 8.3, 8.2 is defo worth getting in your case

[sweet flax]

unless you get sushang from discounted play it safe and save at minimum 16.8k crystals (60 pulls for weapon) while pulling

but since new account...

[ancient needle]

That's a good practice in general

[sweet flax]

[cyan dune]

yeah im at chapter 9 ex2

[left vale]

you still have many crystals you can get from story

[sweet flax]

if you want to put it in perspective the p1 story alone is only about 70ish pulls

[ancient needle]

And you alr have more than enough damage there, no need for extra buffs

[sweet flax]

you shouldnt rely on story completion for your pulls

[cyan dune]

that makes sense

[sweet flax]

its a good source, but not the only source

no point going about it anyways, do the story at your own pace and rely on other crystal sources as well while doing story if you want to get the unit as fast as possible

[left vale]

story is the best one time source for beginners atm

[sweet flax]

^

[sweet flax]

its the only consistent one time source going forward as well

[ancient needle]

Asumara is capitalized, my eyes are bleeding

[sweet flax]

gg

how can read

honestly I could probably update it a bit just so everything is accessible from one message

[lilac reef]

how much damage reduction does it have with the shield up?

[haughty elbow]

only reduces phys

[ancient needle]

I mean, it's quite easy to check

[haughty elbow]

by like half or something like that

[ancient needle]

It was more iirc, no?

[haughty elbow]

eh

[lilac reef]

20%?

[haughty elbow]

im still moving the hp bar

so its not that harsh of a reduction

[ancient needle]

More, not less

[haughty elbow]

50% seems about right

[left vale]

so how bad is brick on this boss then?

[lilac reef]

so all elemental damage goes straight through?

[lilac reef]

I think I confused it with this

[ancient needle]

Hella annoying and less or equal to Badum

[left vale]

holy 💀

[ancient needle]

Ah, ic
Well, that's permanent

[sweet flax]

too bad the wiki only shows damage to shield formula and not shield reduction %

[ancient needle]

Afaik it's cuz it depends on the enemy

[lilac reef]

Whats a good badum team for this boss?

[left vale]

badum vita sparkle

[lilac reef]

no sparkle lol

[sweet flax]

then use jds

[left vale]

can use songque

[ancient needle]

Badum Vita/RS JDS

[lilac reef]

vita ely work?

[left vale]

ely is terrible

[sweet flax]

ely

[lilac reef]

Oh

[left vale]

(on this boss)
its literally ice immune

[lilac reef]

Im dum

[sweet flax]

if you have nothing else then use ely but literally never qte into her for dps

[ancient needle]

You lose too many buffs + HoHE doesn't contribute + Stellar Shift is terrible for this boss

[lilac reef]

I was just trying to avoid physical characters but that makes sense

[sweet flax]

wait im not supposed to so on badum?

[ancient needle]

I meant that specifically HoHE's Stellar Shift is terrible in this case

[sweet flax]

ah

[ancient needle]

Very long and almost 0 damage

[sweet flax]

was she able to insta close her ult on qte

[lilac reef]

So far Ely hasn't had that much use in abyss. Eh whatever at least her weapon counts as a dkey

[ancient needle]

No

[ancient needle]

Good for the cost

[sweet flax]

well ye, not really BiS, her aiming at mech weakspot was good, other than that she's just a dkey holder :)

[lilac reef]

True

[sweet flax]

surely new ring saves her

[amber finch]

good bc the dkey is nice looking

[ancient needle]

Let's just hope that she outlives Helia

[amber finch]

and the so animation is pretty gooj

[haughty elbow]

shes terrible on every loa boss
no weather bonus is saving that massive buff diff

[left vale]

flux tank:

RGBenares:

[ancient needle]

Trio:

(idk actually)

[left vale]

pretty sure badum does better

because hohe can actually like use the ice bar

[haughty elbow]

delulu

how will s0 badum compete vs 6s trio

[left vale]

who has 6S trio tho

[sweet flax]

cough

[left vale]

most people have 5.5S trio

[haughty elbow]

even that much is enough to win

[ancient needle]

5.5 is 100% F2P, 6S is not unreasonable

[left vale]

yeah 6S not unreasonable

i still think badum does better tho for the simple fact that the ice bar can actually deplete lmao

[lilac reef]

740 acceptable for badum bita jds? RL

[ancient needle]

Without fish skips yes

[dry python]

What boss is it

Type parv?

[wanton canopy]

Is there any trick to not get frozen by parvati this cycle?

[ancient needle]

Ye

[ancient needle]

RNG harder

[dry python]

Ew

[wanton canopy]

Ohh....

[lilac reef]

it's always the fish skips

[dry python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1149803415476641954/1360919560697417880/image.png?ex=68002a5b&is=67fed8db&hm=e86f313a015f2da69b71b1969ec44b9a3053598c3548e4e24b9208d691dd9957&

[ancient needle]

That's old bosses for ya

[dry python]

The slacking continues

[lilac reef]

I think I can sleep for the rest of this abyss

[ancient needle]

Crazy

[lilac reef]

rip xtal income

[dry python]

I still have enough for 8.2 lol

[ancient needle]

Cay can just farm guides

Will diff Abyss income anyway

[dry python]

No idea what you're talking about I only make 1 per patch

That pays me like nothing

[ancient needle]

15k per patch

[lilac reef]

HOLY

[dry python]

I don't get 15k bruh

[ancient needle]

That's the max possible, not what Cay constantly gets

[haughty elbow]

i keep forgetting to apply for beta

[dry python]

I keep slacking

[haughty elbow]

its fine since im only s0 player

[dry python]

That's why I get less than 5k per patch

[lilac reef]

ohhh I c

[dry python]

It's fine since I'm only s-1 player

Skip

[ancient needle]

Btw, do they actually assess guide quality

[dry python]

Yes

[ancient needle]

Any specific criteria?

[dry python]

Why are you asking me I don't rate them

[amber finch]

work for me

[ancient needle]

I mean, maybe they're public

But I gotcha

[dry python]

I mean theoretically I could apply but I have irl stuff to do

Maybe next year

If I'm not retired by then

[dry python]

Ew

[ancient needle]

Wait, what's the singular form of "criteria"
"Criterion"?

It is 😭

[sweet flax]

there's a singular form for it?

[amber finch]

so the plural form for hyperion is hyperia

[wanton canopy]

I'll take the L ig

Pain

[left vale]

cant clear side stage or?

[slim blaze]

ew sniper

[wanton canopy]

Nope. Just the boss too tanky for FWS IG

[left vale]

its most certainly not especially in RL

you should be able to high 600-low 700

[slim blaze]

do i use my brick team

[ancient needle]

It's less or equal to Badum

Assuming not SSS HoS tbf

[haughty elbow]

trio

[slim blaze]

FWS LP/RS JDS?

[haughty elbow]

dudu better than vita if u run songque 3rd

[wanton canopy]

Idk i can't cope enough cuzz of low atk ||flat 1.3k all of them fws,dudu,tfm|| does shieldbreak increase its damage recieve?

[haughty elbow]

vita better if u run sparkle 3rd

[ancient needle]

Sure, but ideally Vita Sparkle

[slim blaze]

ah

[left vale]

fws lp tfm best

[slim blaze]

no habibi

[haughty elbow]

use trio

[left vale]

only phys dmg, do you not have vita?

[haughty elbow]

vita is -50%

[wanton canopy]

It's on the A3 account

[left vale]

???

[haughty elbow]

shieldbreak only increases phys dmg taken

every other dmg stays the same

[left vale]

vita is -50% but everyone who is using badum is using vita sparkle what kind of logic

[haughty elbow]

im using dudu songque

[wanton canopy]

Breach maybe? Idk

[slim blaze]

ok so my options are
BRICK
hersheys trio
FWS RS JDS

time to test all 3

[left vale]

yeah because you dont have tfm

[haughty elbow]

[haughty elbow]

i said this twice already
trio

its not even close

[slim blaze]

im slaccing

[wanton canopy]

I just skip this cycle

I have extra 100 trophy anyway(courtesy of last cycle)

[left vale]

you can beat it

lol
you just need a ref
1.3k atk doesnt mean its not doable

[lilac reef]

wait fr? Doesn't it still have physical resistance even after shield break?

[wanton canopy]

I'll just slack this cycle||different game but I'll just relax and enjoy my castorice gameplay||

[ancient needle]

Yes, it does, but that uncripples Songque's DMG cuz you can actuslly go through the shield

Also you can juggle the mf for a good while

[haughty elbow]

yeah but so what
vita is hitting for -1 dmg + songque gets saved

[ancient needle]

(it doesn't recover the shield until it lands)

[slim blaze]

ah well
one team down i guess

[haughty elbow]

recovers in nirvana
score bricked
instant -50

[lilac reef]

hmm ok I didnt expect that but I understand now

[left vale]

omg timer feels like it moves 100% faster on SS kasumi

HOW do you 2s this boss wtf

I DID IT

[ancient needle]

Nice, now 1s it

[left vale]

1S not even possible is it??

yeah 1S is not possible

[ancient needle]

It is ||with whel ranks||

[left vale]

this guy doesnt have

he's 2S
i dont think 1S is possible, the timer ticks at least 2S while she does her jump shit

[ancient needle]

Just look up Kasumi 31893

[autumn oxide]

s0 doable

[ancient needle]

[left vale]

theres no way its doable with S0

[autumn oxide]

hh thel lant s0 doable

[left vale]

i just did the sweatiest 2S of my life

granted my lantern is weapless

[autumn oxide]

https://youtu.be/kXX0QeFokFA?si=mJh_9zbP9zGJpHUB

[haughty elbow]

ill go do it rn

[left vale]

its not possible for me i bet you need the 20sp from lantern weap

dmg doesnt matter shes paper but im sure the SP does

[autumn oxide]

beed b ez

dmg matters btw ure using ult to kill p2

[left vale]

i didnt need to

kek

SS serapeum

[autumn oxide]

2s?

[left vale]

2s

[wanton canopy]

I'm coping on my A3 to get t3 but every freaking time man.....

[autumn oxide]

yea im referring to 1s dummy

[left vale]

yeah i cant 1S this i already accepted that

[autumn oxide]

why else wld i send a vid with s0 valks thats 1s

[left vale]

but ey u gotta admit 2S with 3/4 lamp kinda impressive

[autumn oxide]

if not for the fact rhat uve got decent taste in valo skins i’d’ve called u stupid

[left vale]

well ig not shes paper

but it still took way too long

[autumn oxide]

its like saying an 893 on doom is impressive with a weapless vq when we all know it isnt that impressive

[left vale]

anything thats not 30s on doom is impressive

doom is cancer fuck that boss

[autumn oxide]

weird taste

personally i’d prefer kasumi over doom but u do u

[left vale]

sorry i like my SS bosses doable

[autumn oxide]

wait this is maincord oops

[autumn oxide]

tbh once uce got the gears for it its actl kinda fun

[haughty elbow]

this 1s is so tight for s0

[ancient needle]

If Awa calls smth tight I'm scared

[haughty elbow]

cant go as fast as possible in hohe because she shoots before boss is targetable
then theres a no indicator timing for when to ca on lantern

this feels like rng because sometimes the timer ticks before she even becomes targetable

[slim blaze]

omg next boss is stun weather?

[haughty elbow]

my dudu dps is gonna score like brick

[slim blaze]

bricky brick time?
or

[ancient needle]

Yes, Brick is still best

[slim blaze]

noice

get ill promote now then

[autumn oxide]

brick with rs tho

[slim blaze]

HoS horb RS?

[autumn oxide]

probs yea

lowkey may opt for hrb lead ngl

[slim blaze]

how does that work

[dry python]

Wtf is beed

Beethoven??

Where is the d

[rotund roost]

Is it still possible to get the box or no?

[shadow acorn]

I have like 16 valkyries at level 8 in elysian realm, I am this close to elysia outfit , is it worth farming ER (and it feels like that will take so long) or do I do something else? I have a lot of story left but that’s it

[odd plume]

we wont recommend pulling for outfit but your choice, no other answer

[frozen crypt]

You're not even close to the end and only have a week, will ER even be enough

[naive pivot]

well they have story too apparently

[haughty elbow]

ur like not even halfway there

[frozen crypt]

You need 4800 crystals to get the outfit, don't pull any more unless you actually get that number before the banner ends

[shadow acorn]

yea I stopped chapter 7 I think

[shadow acorn]

didn’t I sink too much already? and okay thanks

[frozen crypt]

No you're not close to the end of the banner, each pull gets significantly more expensive

No point sinking more crystals if you can't even guarantee the outfit, it rarely drops early and you can't rely on being the one person that gets it early because the reality is you're probably going to have to go to hard pity

[lone crater]

u can 946 with weapless

[naive pivot]

imagine unironically malding on SS MA though 💀

[frozen crypt]

[odd plume]

they can get like 500~1k crystal from ER weekly in 7 days + 2.5k from 16 lv8 valks + abyss and other thing, 4.8k is doable, just a bit long
but worth it or not is their choice

[lone crater]

tbf ita not malding

its quite easy to do

[haughty elbow]

kasumi is bullshit

[lone crater]

she is

i meant doom is easy

altho i dont even have lamp so 2s here i come

with le lv gd

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834003548014379009/1347797849307480095/723928477098573944.gif

[mortal prawn]

Hi guys, i just started the game and i dont know if any of my characters is good. Any help and tips would be great!

[sweet flax]

For beginners most valks are fine to use as abyss is relatively easy early on and story starting from chapter 7 opts to use trial valks over your own valks, I'll link you an faq with some beginner set ups incase you're trying to do well in abyss

[mortal prawn]

Thanks!!

[odd plume]

feel like we need an updated album for that

[autumn oxide]

try it elfless too

i had a potential 946 BUT only if

1. my hs FULL crit the run
2. bd2 actually hit her ult
3. i actually pick up the sp bag
4. vq doesnt somehow miss damage/i dropsec

safe to say i settled for 893 on that

[naive pivot]

[wanton canopy]

Is there any ref for badum+RS+spork? Specially low atk but idk if can get 651+ pts for highest probability of retaining

[abstract sequoia]

so no alternative to RS?

or maybe any way for you to make a fire team

[wanton canopy]

Nope to both sadly . Also is this action needed during SO? Or does SO entry apply this thing

[lone crater]

who is bd2

[abstract sequoia]

who is this

sparkle?

wait no, badum

[wanton canopy]

Fws her charge attack thingy

[lone crater]

super qte applies it

[abstract sequoia]

yea no need to use WA except when meter is full

[quick birch]

normally you dont charge attack unless you want to trigger sonque qte afaik

[abstract sequoia]

only outside SO

[lone crater]

its not from wa its from holding atk, a diff thing

[abstract sequoia]

right sry

yeah, you kinda just force qtes with that

but no need in SO

only do it if you dont want to commit a full meter

[lone crater]

it can be useful to apply the mark early but its just rot specific

[odd plume]

no trio?

[abstract sequoia]

Anyone has scores for Sparkle world star?

[wanton canopy]

None

[abstract sequoia]

cant replicate, im nirvana

because id actually suggest it as an option

[wanton canopy]

It's just that when i do that jump/midair + hold attack i always do higher total damage when i use ultimate/rotate to other valk or something

[abstract sequoia]

i mean qtes are strong

[wanton canopy]

Kinda faster on rot so idk how it works

[abstract sequoia]

do you manage to break the phys shield with RS?

and if so, would help to know when boss hp-wise

[wanton canopy]

Yeah i break it like 2x

[abstract sequoia]

that sounds super late

maybe dont focus on breaking at all then, only do stuff on RS that gives you the buffs

[wanton canopy]

Oh you mean hp? I meant 2x in the duration of fight

Lemme record abit later

[abstract sequoia]

yeah would be of great help

i'm just trying to understand whether its worth it to bother with the phys shield or not if you only have RS

JDS+RS would be a no-brainer, but then you'd lead RS

or maybe not, either way 2 phys means shield break good

[quick birch]

if they had JDS youd just run fws/jds/rs

[abstract sequoia]

yea because of the light phys res/

[wanton canopy]

1* res is around 25%?

[abstract sequoia]

idk actually

if its that high, then ill be damned

[wanton canopy]

NGL i just think it about like 25-50-75 then 100 = immunity

But i digress and don't know that deep

[abstract sequoia]

eh not rly safe to assume, there were many times where 1 resistance star didnt matter

either way, assuming its not worth it to go for shieldbreak, i'd just qte in and ult with RS and switch back. Maybe charge atk if its full

qte and charge atk trigger stigma buffs, the rest is passive

[wanton canopy]

Yeah that's what i do just to recharge her buff

[amber finch]

honestly i dont know either, the stars dont really help tell you how resistant a boss is towards an element, example: apoopoo is maxed stars res to all eles but thel does “fine” on her

[sweet flax]

Probs due to type advantage

[amber finch]

that helps yeah

[sweet flax]

But then mobius would be doing well for me too

[amber finch]

exactly

[sweet flax]

Except that doesn't happen

[amber finch]

but then mobius sucks

[sweet flax]

[amber finch]

and thel is newer

[sweet flax]

That is true

[amber finch]

gotta factor that in

[sweet flax]

You'd think a mecha unit with summons would be good in summon weather against bio enemy

[amber finch]

old age got to her

even tho she got new supports

[abstract sequoia]

someone memed with her on apopo I believe

[sweet flax]

She's still my goat (getting outscored by my thel despite being ss3 now )

Poor mobius

[abstract sequoia]

nvm that was a vill-v run, i misremembered

[sweet flax]

Vill v in the big 25

[abstract sequoia]

https://youtu.be/oVEcwTwG1ao

[amber finch]

thats even krazier

[abstract sequoia]

mobius on bleed is crazy

[sweet flax]

Can't see the vid rn but I'm gonna assume it's some lv dps but using io wa to trigger qte

[abstract sequoia]

then again, i just have to look at the yt username

actually no

[sweet flax]

[abstract sequoia]

lv is support

[shadow gyro]

read the title

[sweet flax]

Ikik

I just thought "no one would be crazy enough to run mobius in bleed"

I gotta up my game clearly

[shadow gyro]

the power of simping /j

[abstract sequoia]

i mean works for Lyo

[autumn oxide]

blade dudu

dudu elf

[autumn oxide]

hihi :3

[wanton canopy]

Is this a bug when sparkle qte in she get stuck in top of bosses? Specially for bosses that looks like has flatter hit box on top like parvati

[autumn oxide]

no its just good boss design by hoyo

[wanton canopy]

[autumn oxide]

wdym u dont want to land on top of the boss and waste 5pts before u can wa?

[wanton canopy]

Cost me like 5pts atleast cuzz can't use weapon active that time

[autumn oxide]

oh sorry u wanted to waste 10pts?

[wanton canopy]

One more thing to hate IG

Happen like multiple times now

[autumn oxide]

its such a small issue

just reset if u see it happen

[ancient needle]

Well, stuff adds up xdd

[wanton canopy]

Well i kinda made a run(but tons if imperfections) and i just uploading now

[lone crater]

thats not elfless is it lol, technically all u need is just swap cd and the rest is just dmg check, 2 star dudu is fine at least for the rot i used

[autumn oxide]

no its not

[wanton canopy]

@abstract sequoia
https://youtu.be/tsu1CkcuVr4?si=bmw71tqpH8HXulH9
Kinda scuff run

[autumn oxide]

bd2 was the difference between me losing my shit

[lone crater]

does ur hos kill p1

[autumn oxide]

if i full crit

i miss a crit or two and i maybe still kill

but more than that i dont kill

im not as bad as u think dawg

[lone crater]

u dont exactly need hos to finish it tho do you

[autumn oxide]

i hit the 946 on my other acc with the same gears

[autumn oxide]

ult clean kills as long as i full crit

[lone crater]

i mean idk wats the problem then

[autumn oxide]

less dkeys there too, only diff is elf; bd4 instead of bd2

[autumn oxide]

the fucking elf is the problem

[wanton canopy]

I need 651pts to kinda retain if someone else attack too and get 650+ ||I'm cooked and give up if someone does get||

[autumn oxide]

next patch i get pb3, if boss runs again i 946 show u

[lone crater]

u need elf dmg for p2 or what

[autumn oxide]

i need it to consistently kill p1 and that probs solves my dmg issues on p2 too yea

purana + bd2 together is painful

i hv ratrius to back me up

[lone crater]

i mean idk ur exact problem but if p2 lack dmg could try mei on hos

griseo with ala m as well

[autumn oxide]

beet m gave me dmg to kill, ala m dint

[autumn oxide]

no damage to kill p1 i need ely tb dante m

idk why u arent believing me LMAOO

[lone crater]

idk cuz i dont have that problem thats it