👶beginner-help

[urban lake]

[oak coral]

chat im back

is it a good time to replay the game?

[slim blaze]

ah survey's here

[frozen crypt]

replay? could you elaborate a bit on what your goals are? starting a new acc to replay story only or pursue competitive goals?

[oak coral]

reinstall the game again

i dont care abt story nor the competitive route

i just want to progress my acc xd

[frozen crypt]

uhh then now is as good a time as any I guess

if you don't care about the competitive side of the game just play and quit whenever you want

might wanna wait a week or two, we are in the boring end of the patch rn

but might as well reinstall asap if you would like to save some xtals for a new valk

[oak coral]

hmmm okay

lemme get my roster rq

[frozen crypt]

Doesn't really matter if you won't play consistently tbh just put 3 valks you enjoy in a team

If you play consistently enough for abyss to get hard and you want to go higher then ask us for meta team/gear advice

[oak coral]

can we show the roster from hoyolab?

[sweet flax]

story discussion isnt permitted here, also you are very far off i'd suggest reading more carefully if you are interested in the story

[daring tundra]

[oak coral]

my roster

restart or continue?

the only reason i pulled spookle is i dont have her in main game

[lilac reef]

Without??? I must be doing something wrong. Did you maybe record it? 😅

[abstract sequoia]

Hm, do you remember pulling Sparkle's or Senadina's weapon?

[oak coral]

i did get s2 sena weapon

[abstract sequoia]

ah okay

that's nice

actually, you might be in luck. Sparkle has a rerun right now. Normally we don't recommend backpulling older valkyries, because prioritizing newer valks with limited crystals is better. But if you're just playing casually feel free to go for Sparkle's weapon

Just be aware of who comes next by checking #💁gameplay-help for current patch and #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins for future patch

[abstract sequoia]

Mostly saying all of this, because of that. Sparkle's weapon really helps her pop off more than her Lightcone would in HSR.

[oak coral]

okay

[abstract sequoia]

although if that game had a competitive leaderboard thing, probably comparable

[oak coral]

im just a casual

dont rlly mind not coming on top

[abstract sequoia]

yeah alright

i mean your main reason to restart would be the starter manual event

which does give you a ton of materials as a beginner

one of the big things is Growth Regimen
https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Growth_Regimen

feel free to check the table out on the wiki, it does have a good summary of every reward in there

[outer spruce]

I'll record a run

[shadow gyro]

the thumbnail lmao

[outer spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhCNq6HDFgc

@lilac reef

[haughty elbow]

not starting with vita

[lilac reef]

Tyty 🙏

[whole bloom]

Vita and badum work well to each other?

[thick bolt]

vita can support badum

[quick birch]

they are also a nice team when supporting an WS dps.
vita DPS and badumm support doesnt work though

[whole bloom]

Aw man

[whole bloom]

Should I pull for the yellow hair too?

I ale have Vita and badum

[thick bolt]

Eh no, better to pull a new unit in the future than backpull for Song.
Also depends on your crystal count

[abstract sequoia]

yea idk where that came from xd

caught me off-guard

[slim blaze]

good thing im not doing the boss

[sweet flax]

do the boss

[quick birch]

stop slack

[slim blaze]

no hanabi

not worth balding the nirv retain

i will most likelyl demote anyways\

[cyan dune]

||someone here told me a valk coming son was good for Badum, was it sparkle or sushang?||

[hollow mango]

Hello i need help, how long would it take me to get a g3/g4 stigma set

[quick birch]

|| they probably mean sushang since she is the 8.2 valk, although im not certain how she compares to other badum supports. its not recommended to backpull any other heavenly shift atm though||

sparkle is also a good badum support but as i mentioned dont backpull her

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/819962254278918165.webp?size=16&animated=true

[shadow gyro]

mind mentioning what set are you looking to get?
regardless it will take a lot of time to grind from scratch and most of the stuff in there aren't important so unless the character who you wanna get the set for is someone that you'll use a lot then it's not that worth of grind

[hollow mango]

So ive been building dea anchora cuz i dont have any other fire dps and ive been wondering how long would it take me to grind for the Shakespeare:adrift set

[sweet flax]

shakespeare isnt BiS anymore

also, building a dps for every element is unecessary

[quick birch]

on top of that DA will most likely not perform very well

if you are a beginner sure everything basically works but then its not really worth farming g3/g4 for her

[shadow gyro]

she's no longer relevant to the endgame
if you're early game you can use what you have or I can suggest some cheap alternatives
even for ppl who still wanna use an old valk for endgame, i think the set that she would use would be sirin's set but someone more knowledgeable can confirm

[narrow coyote]

How to spend stamina faster?

[shadow gyro]

did you finish the story and chronicles? are you doing adventure tasks?

[narrow coyote]

Adventure task will only open on Monday, Thursday and Saturday

[shadow gyro]

the bottles shouldn't expire so keep them until u need them

[shadow gyro]

i mean to use the stamina on them whenever they're open

[narrow coyote]

Wut is chronicles?

[narrow coyote]

Ok

[shadow gyro]

they have their story as well

the word stamina got cut out from the text in the 3rd pic btw

[narrow coyote]

Ok thx

[hollow mango]

Im like almost mid game, and i dont really have any other alternative for dea anchora (i am saving up for sirin tho)

[narrow coyote]

Plus is it common for stamina glitch??

[hollow mango]

Also are there stigmatas that helps valks with sp problems?

[shadow gyro]

did you spend the bottles without emptying ur current? its normal for it to hold the extra stamina

[shadow gyro]

tbh neither are worth gearing for endgame, so you can use dea for now
you can show me your stigmata options to see if you already have something she can use

[narrow coyote]

No i manange to add extra stamina

Becoz i found a glitch 😂

[shadow gyro]

it is normal for it to hold extra
but make sure that it doesn't cap

[narrow coyote]

Ok

[shadow gyro]

as for the stamina that regenerate overtime that is shown on a different menu, these stay so you don't need to empty them immediately but again you won't see this if you use your stamina every day

[hollow mango]

looking at my stigmatas wow i am not even near midgame

[shadow gyro]

for cheap but useable cope options there's a 3* (4 when maxed) fire set that dea can use or you can craft fu hua musician
they obv don't compare to her main set but to farm her main set you'll spend forever and its not beneficial long term
for the 3* stigmata you can easily fodder them with less cost or keep them for niche use and for the fu hua musician they're a nice cope support set for niche cases

[shadow gyro]

yeah you can keep the set she's using for now, otherwise she can steal ai chan's set
but this should be good for now

for the harder stuff rely on coralie

[hollow mango]

isnt fu hua musician like a supp stig

[shadow gyro]

yes, but it's still a decent set for early mid game and is very cheap so you don't waste anything

you should eventually get a new character (not now wait for the next version) that will carry your account and use coralie

[hollow mango]

Yuh i am

Im using coralie and aichan anyway so i got no complaints

[shadow gyro]

also don't worry about levelling up so quickly, story and dailies give so much exp that you reach level 80 in no time
and a lot of ppl are still confused even after level 80
for instance the only good gear i had for when i was in level 80 was for sena, thelema, and coralie (when she was released), everything else that i had looked like a pile of trash lmao
technically there's helia's set but i hardly used her and it used to be unleveled

[narrow coyote]

@shadow gyro i just want to confirm this is normal?

Bruh my record is so bad

Srry

[quick birch]

it is excess stamina is stored there and can be claimed.

[shadow gyro]

yeah i think that's normal but i do suggest not doing that

only empty the extra when your low on stamina but need it for smth

[narrow coyote]

Ok thx

Is there squad in game?

I have played before but I don't remember

[shadow gyro]

wdym exactly?

do you mean coop?

[hollow mango]

So Should i focus on stuff like stigmatas and stuff when i get into the later game?

[shadow gyro]

for now level who you use for now but don't try to invest so much if they already do the job

coralie would be your current priority because you'll use her in the endgame

aside from that save material for the new character you'll get because you wanna level them quickly and use them in the endgame as well

[hollow mango]

I also have helia ill focus on both p2 valks

[shadow gyro]

make sure to get their weapon as well, you'll get their stigmatas on the way

[narrow coyote]

Where it is?

[shadow gyro]

sure thing but rn she won't do that much with her because she's a niche support and you don't have someone that needs her rn

[shadow gyro]

it was removed since 7.3
nowadays there's only the public chatroom and coop in events like loppy (during cn patches) and some events that have pvp gamemode

[narrow coyote]

I knew it

Thx

[shadow gyro]

7.3 is over a year ago wow 👵

[narrow coyote]

Man am i asking too many questions

[shadow gyro]

no worries, this channel is for questions after all

but if you wanna chat you can look at #🎮honkai-chat or #☕general-chat
up to u

[hollow mango]

I need help with rotations

Should i start with the buffer or the debuffer

[shadow gyro]

whats the team? dea, Coralie, aichan?

[hollow mango]

Yuh

[narrow coyote]

But i never seen someone asking too many questions

https://tenor.com/view/crying-crying-meme-gif-8274157336207414169

( i m meme fan)

[haughty elbow]

u start with whoevers duration is longer

[shadow gyro]

i would presume you would start with coralie, jump and plunge and stack her hammering stack to 3 (shown in an icon near ur hp)
then go to ai chan, use her weapon, hit her, time the hit at the rotation chakram and use her ult when available then go to dae and do her stuff

[shadow gyro]

its ok, as long as you need help you can always ask

[narrow coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/paper-mario-ttyd-the-thousand-year-door-paper-mario-remake-paper-mario-ttyd-gif-17763927042127487571

[shadow gyro]

you can also take a look at wall of guides in the pins incase it already answers your question

[narrow coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-meme-funny-awkward-gif-15152436

[dire portal]

is current event's vita shining T better than vita lone Planetfarer T ? Or is it just a collectible ?

[spiral badge]

collectible

most event stigs are just that. Rarely they may have a notable use

You may still consider upgrading them to their highest rarity (edit: no need to max level. My below screenshot is maxed because i got lazy) for the extra collection point, which helps towards minor crystal milestones

you can review the effects too. That stigmata doesn't work with vita's other pieces. Its benefits are quite weak as well.

https://i.imgur.com/WtZOcdz.png

keep in mind crit dmg is only for physical as well

vita valk is lightning

overall the art on the stigmata doesn't necessarily correspond to how it should be used

[dire portal]

I didn't hit the mark to get HoRb free. What should I do with the currency, should I buy her rank up stamp so that if I get her in future I can make her even stronger ?

anyone ?

[shadow gyro]

perhaps get tgr elf box and don't open it yet

u never know if you'll get horb again and if she'll have any relevance in the future with an obtainable gear

[dire portal]

I already have kiana elf, should I still pick elf box ?

[thick bolt]

yes. Allows you the ability to rank her up in the future. 3* and 4* improve her utility massively.
worst case it's another elf unlock like PB (do check Sairaan's warning in the spending event pin)

[vague lily]

Is sparkles weapon worth getting

[wintry wharf]

backpulling is not recommended

[vague lily]

What's back pulling?

[thick bolt]

!faq backpull

[small willow]

What is 'Backpulling'?

Captain! Ai-chan can help!

'Backpulling' refers to pulling a Valkyrie or her equipment (or both!) on a rerun instead of on her release.

For more information on why this is considered damaging to an account for Captains who want to pursue meta in the game, click [here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[vague lily]

Oh alright, I'll hold off on getting her weapon. Thanks for the help.

[maiden garden]

anyone know when 8.2 will most likly drop?

[sweet flax]

there's an exact date, its end of 8.1 patch (8.1 schedule is in #💁gameplay-help pins with dates, 8.2 schedule will start being updated in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins as well)

[quick birch]

In general CN info can be very useful to plan your pulls or to know that's the next valk so if you want to take advantage of that extra info do it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/819962254278918165.webp?size=16&animated=true

Just keep up with #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins

[sweet flax]

do keep in mind that cn is only 4 weeks ahead, so if you plan on using it to plan your pulls, you potentially cause yourself to miss out on a valk's shill

[quick birch]

^

[sweet flax]

there are lots of factors when deciding to pull or not, its better to ask here if you are unsure as we usually keep up to date with theorycrafting/beta testing with valks pre-release such as in beta and throughout their debut

though the pulling pin will explain the important reasons to skip/pull

[quick birch]

Keep in mind we can't really give advice while a valk is in beta since it is subject to change but many mention that in their advice alr, we can still give an educated guess but no real evaluation how valuable a valk might be

[sweet flax]

^

though generally speaking, while their numbers and smaller portions of kit may be changed, valks tend to have the same role when exiting beta, albeit in a different state

so take advice with a grain of salt

[plush spear]

can anyone suggest me what elf to buy? i know i should look for a elf that has the same damage style like elemental or physical but my teams are usually mixed and rarely do I go by a one team element since I don't have much good characters

[quick birch]

Usually we recommend kia elf since she has the most coverage and can be situationally useful in P2 teams if she is 3*. Don't unlock any Elfs ATM though since we get an S rank selector box next patch. Just hold onto the elf fragment boxes until you've got that selector

[plush spear]

ahhh I see

i was also thinking of the kiana elf

i wish I could hold onto this but it expires in three days

I don't want those chips to go away

[quick birch]

The boxes are permanent

[sweet flax]

do you already have any elf unlocked? outside kiaelf and in very rare cases pb, there's no other elf worthwhile getting (both needing 3* at least to be competing with ss ds)

[plush spear]

nah litteraly since I started playing I only have jingwei

[quick birch]

You can buy the boxes and just let them sit in your inventory forever basically

Ofc you will want to use them at some point but as I've mentioned wait until you got the s rank elf selector next patch

The reason being that unlocking a valk takes 150 frags and dupes only give 105 so if you unlock the elf with frags instead of the selector box you essentially lose 45 frags

[plush spear]

i see

i guess I'll just buy the valk box then

[quick birch]

Don't

Basically everyone in the valk box is farmable

Only SW isn't and she is expected to become farmable rather soon

If you still wonder what you should buy from that shop check out sairaans guide in pins. They take many things into consideration

[quick birch]

Also seeing that you alr have HoRb her s2 might be a consideration if you have a use for her and since she is possible contender for a Dkey. Check out sairaans guide for that as well

Wait you lowkey can't buy s2 with your tokens

Nvm, still check out the guide in pins

[plush spear]

yeah I was thinking of buying her rank up stamps

i do have her weapon but not her stigma

[quick birch]

S1 isn't really notable s2 is the big fish but seeing that you don't have enough for that I wouldn't really consider it that strongly tbh

Especially if you can't utilize HoRb DPS which is account dependent

[plush spear]

read the guide

still have no idea

i'll figure something on my own

thank you mango for the help

[quick birch]

Np my suggestion would be to go for the elf boxes since you can't get s2 HoRb but you still have a few days to think about it

[plush spear]

yeah I was also thinking about the elf box

prolly the best choice since I don't have any other elves

oh yeah one more thing

is jade knight worth?

i have a lot of those purple things farmed and I have her weapon

[frozen crypt]

where'd you get her weapon?

if it's starter event you should get her free from that training shop anyway

[plush spear]

i had no idea what I was doing when I started to play so but then I got into a crisis and somehow managed to pull myself out, still strugling sometimes lol

[frozen crypt]

ah so returnee acc?

in that case refer to this

!faq wt

[small willow]

War Treasury Farming

Hey, Captain!

Click [here](#👶beginner-help message) to see the War Treasury Farming Recommendation, which is kept updated!

Short Answer:

• If there are limited-time discounts on character cards, buy them ASAP!
• Prioritise buying character cards of Valkyries that are in Elysian Realm.
• After that, unlock everyone else for dorm progression.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[plush spear]

but yeah I got her weapon in the beginning

[plush spear]

nah, been playing for a year now

thanks for pulling this up for me

[frozen crypt]

[cedar turtle]

Quick story related question, I’m following the play order from Hoyostans and I just finished Chapter 25 EX and Elysian Realm Chapter 1. According to the guide I should finish Elysian Realm Chapter 2 before starting Chapter 26, but I was wondering if I could play them side-by-side. If I started Chapter 26 before finishing Chapter 2 would I be completely lost or somewhat confused or totally fine.

[sweet flax]

better to ask in #📚honkai-lore generally speaking though, you should follow the read order as closely as possible (though it isnt that confusing at all if you skip a chapter in favor of doing er, as the stories happen during 2 different times)

cant say more due to discussion of story not being allowed in this channel

[jaunty forge]

Hello ! I’m struggling to complete the Universal Mirage Blade Grave Floors ^^. Does anyone have any advice ? :]

[torpid orbit]

It’s a bit of a stat-check, unfortunately. Best you can do is use most fitting team of fitting element or alternatively brute-forcing it with the strongest team you have. If you can’t do it with that, then it’s very likely that you just don’t have a team strong enough to deal with it yet.

[spiral badge]

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

maybe you can try a team here that has TA (Prometheus) and HoS in it

[jaunty forge]

What would you recommend as the most fitting physical team ? ^^ I’m unsure of which characters of mine would be the strongest physical team :]

[torpid orbit]

What Sairaan recommended sounds good.
You can check the dmg-type of the Valkyrie on her screen.
It has an orange knife for physical dmg iIrc

[jaunty forge]

Okay ! Thank you both :]

[shadow tendon]

how do I fight the vita boss? it takes forever to take down her health in phase 2

[spiral badge]

if you have more recent gacha only valks that are physical (such as HoRb, but also any newer valks with astral ring) then maybe you can show us what you have

[spiral badge]

this boss is a quantum fight. Are you making sure to deplete all her quantum shield layers before really doing damage?

what team are you using against her?

if you're unsure what collapse layers are or how they work, i highly recommend checking out the ingame tutorial in attack > events tab > tactics class > mechanics tab

[shadow tendon]

how do I do that? my team is this but idk if theres a better matchup

[jaunty forge]

Could I DM you with my Valkyrie list ? ^^ (You can say no I completely understand, I just don’t want to fill this space up with screenshots n stuff :])

[spiral badge]

vita should not be leader of this team. Her leader dps heavily desires triple Rite of Oblivion valkyries. FWS is LoA and not RoO. The only other valk in the game that qualifies for this is HoFi with her gacha divine key. (Don't recommend getting this now if you don't already have it though)

it doesn't seem like you have a recent quantum valk either (sparkle or theresa. Again not recommended to chase at this point)

so you can just use your strongest team that isn't locked to bruteforce against vita

[spiral badge]

i rather you post it here so other people can help. I actually will be leaving soon

try using the grid menu at the bottom left so more are displayed on the screen at once. Can consider using the filter menu for physical only too (although if it's a astral ring team, then non physicals will matter too because team building with astral ring isn't based on elements)

a single post with multiple screenshots is fine

[shadow tendon]

bruteforce.. ok ty i think my strongest team is fws vita rs maybe

[spiral badge]

keep in mind you can turn on buffed mode too if it's too difficult.

LoA teams tend to be very animation driven/autopilot with how they constantly QTE and launch big attacks. Don't be afraid to stop and wait to avoid vita's collapse moves if you need to.

Keep in mind durandal is imaginary type and is disadvantaged against quantum. Maybe you can consider HoHE too but she's quite lackluster as an LoA support as well

actually hohe might be more appreciated on tank (second sss boss)

[sour timber]

hello! i just came back to hi3 after a few good months, maybe even a year, so im super-outdated . i have this sp valkyrie option, but idk who should i choose. any recs?

[spiral badge]

lastly keep in mind memorial arena rewards are largely unimportant. The main rewards of value are the crystals you get from clearing enough fights and scoring somewhat high enough on sss fights, and the latter amount is esp minor.

[spiral badge]

maybe kira. Everything here is farmable. You can check pins for the asterite guide

[sour timber]

also is it worth it to pull for any of the valkyries that r on supply rn

[spiral badge]

!faq asterite

[small willow]

Asterite Priority

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view the Asterite Priority list!
-# Aimed at beginner accounts.

Also see Professor Sairaan's Asterite Sources breakdown [here](#👶beginner-help message).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

!faq pull

[small willow]

Pulling Priority

Yo, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see the pulling priority for this patch!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

probably not right now

[sour timber]

tysm !!

[spiral badge]

if you're interested in the meta, you may further want to consider restarting your account depending on what it already has

also if you see yourself only coming back briefly and maybe taking a break down the line again, consider just taking a more casual approach to the game and just going after whoever you like. Even with casual goals we can help as long as you're specific enough too

but hi3's meta does want you to maintain the game regularly for crystals to keep up with latest releases frequently, and to lessen the amount of skips you may need to do

[spiral badge]

anyway i'm sorry but i do need to leave now. Again just screenshot your valk roster as the person above this replied post has done, and other people can try to help you. Good luck

[acoustic briar]

idk what to do here

[odd plume]

https://youtu.be/lEP4JXU9IyQ?t=241
it should go like this, but there is a common bug that nothing will happen, i dont think we have a clear solution for that

try to do those thing and see if it work

[acoustic briar]

ty very much honey

[odd plume]

can ask more in #🔌technical-help

[acoustic briar]

yess i checked the video but for me nothing is happening it should be the bug situation

[boreal prism]

Are any of these worth buying?

[ancient needle]

Yes, check "Training Shop" in the pins

You can very easily afford everything out of this tab eventually

[hollow mango]

Yo i dont have herrscher of truth would shigure kira be a good alternative for a fire team

[runic canopy]

With who as dps and another support?
Kira can, but the problem might be hard to rotate due to QTE triggers.

[hollow mango]

Sirin dps and Chrono navi supp

[runic canopy]

... yeah i don't see QTE triggers can be done so easily there

[hollow mango]

But it could work right?

[runic canopy]

Just try using the three if you want to, better than nothing ngl.

[neat hawk]

is thelema good?

[mental orchid]

yes, one of the best part 2 valks

[neat hawk]

will she get a rerun soon?

she happens to be one of my favourites

[mental orchid]

she will get adv supply next patch iirc

[neat hawk]

SAVIN

7.6k gems

rn

[mental orchid]

same, i need her weapon

[neat hawk]

is there a 50 50 system here?

[mental orchid]

no

[neat hawk]

nice

i just started like recently doing beginner tasks what is the best thing to do now or best way i can get gems

do i have a chance of getting thelema?

[mental orchid]

yeah hi3 has my fav gacha system but valks are more needy because its not like genshin where you can use weapons and artifacts on any character. most weapons and stigmata pale in comparison to characters signiture weapon and stigmata

[mental orchid]

yes pretty much

starter manual gives a lot of crystals and valuable items

[neat hawk]

aside from doing starter manual basically the training plan and the tasks
what is the best way to spend my time to get as much gems as possible as a newbie

[mental orchid]

events and unlock elysian realm

[neat hawk]

elysian realm thats far in story

[mental orchid]

elysian realm gives a lot of crystals and make sure to do shallow and deep sequence

[mental orchid]

you unlock it at a certain level iirc

[neat hawk]

but has story spoilers no?

[mental orchid]

not really, its like a time capsule from the past era

[neat hawk]

i know what happens up to chapter 9

nothing after

[runic canopy]

Yes, but beware that the banner is not usual banner. We can only confirm this but not the system yet, please refer to #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion for more info.

Being said, Thelema is not recommended to pull anymore. If you solely pull her for waifu, I can't stop you, but this still has to be reminded at least.

[neat hawk]

she might not be the best cuz hi3 powercreep but she is good enough no?

[mental orchid]

shes a great support for most valks and can do good damage, weapon gives her time stop after ult

[neat hawk]

she not a main dps?

[mental orchid]

p2 valks can be dps and support

[ancient needle]

The main issue is that you might not have anyone to use her with anytime soon
Also "powercreep" is not accurate

[runic canopy]

She is really good still don't get me wrong, not even powercrept by anything yet IN HER NICHE. In HI3, being good doesn't guaranteed can be pulled.

[ancient needle]

She's compatible only with World Star and Wheel of Destiny valks as a support and with Harmonized Shadow Star valks as the DPS

[runic canopy]

And like what Teammate says, you probably are confused on the powercreep concept in HI3, as we have too many niches and there are only so many valkyries filling each niche.

Good to note while we're here: no valkyrie can fill EVERY niche.

[ancient needle]

Also how good each valk is with Thele depends a lot, so you might be disappointed depending on your options and standards

[runic canopy]

My point shouldn't be on correcting the powercreep concept if you want Thelema that much, but to lead you to #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion to know how Thelema banner in next patch works.

[neat hawk]

i see

[neat hawk]

so cuz i dont have any shadow stars i wont be able to use her as main dps

[ancient needle]

Yup, exactly

[neat hawk]

hear me out
if i use her with coraile and that blonde lady on starter banner will it be ok?

[ancient needle]

You can use Omniscient Star valks as copium options

[ancient needle]

Very subpar

[neat hawk]

lemme look em up

[ancient needle]

Coralie and HoFi with dkey

Vita too but she has HSS as well

[neat hawk]

i have coraile

[ancient needle]

Compared to BiS that is ofc

Which is Sena Vita

[neat hawk]

then pulling thelema gives me a reason to pull vita in the future thats another fav of mine

[runic canopy]

who is in starter banner again?

[ancient needle]

Sena and Songque

[runic canopy]

but starter banner isn't recommended to pull anyways...

[ancient needle]

Yes

[neat hawk]

i saw that she is harmonized shadow

[runic canopy]

so yeah Vita if you really can negate all the consequences.

[ancient needle]

Anyway, it really depends on what you want out of the game

[neat hawk]

consequences?

[neat hawk]

i want story main anything else is on the side am suuuper casual

[ancient needle]

Ah, then sure

Vita Songque is quite decent

[mental orchid]

vita is possibly the best support but not reccomended if shes your first s rank because shes not a good dps unless u put her with hof kiana with divine key

and i dont recommend getting hof with divine key unless u already have hof, she is outdated

[neat hawk]

will get her after i get thelema and use her with songque or coraile

[ancient needle]

That's not the reason Vita's not recommended

[mental orchid]

enlighten me

[ancient needle]

Eh, maybe you meant what I'm about to say, but let me clarify:

She's not recommended because:

1. She can't properly support the unknown AR type
2. The general rule of not backpulling cuz of the value going down over time, you'd rather get smth new

[amber finch]

i cant replicate my 5s tank run

teammate this is quite literally your fault

[ancient needle]

DPS capabilities are only a consideration for the first 1-2 patches, and not for new players

[ancient needle]

Because of the Abyss/MA shill

[mental orchid]

isnt rite of oblivion for all ar types?

[ancient needle]

The AR type doesn't matter
The AR tags matter
Her Omniscient Star tag allows her to be a copium support for all future AR types, but the key word is "copium"

The exact reason she'll most likely be copium is cuz she can't trigger the special mechanics of future AR types

[mental orchid]

oh my bad thank you

[ancient needle]

For example, if Vita didn't have the Heavenly Shift tag she wouldn't have a super QTE

[amber finch]

why did i mald yesterday

now i cant replicate what i did

[ancient needle]

She wouldn't be able to proc resos without Domain Resonance

[ancient needle]

But F2Ps can 0s now

1 sec

Nvm, not F2P xdd

But not leviathan either

[amber finch]

f2p my ass

im not getting sync 3 weaps

[ancient needle]

You probs can do like 1-2 secs F2P

[amber finch]

also my hoh is s0

[ancient needle]

Ah, gg

[amber finch]

not enough dmg

[ancient needle]

Expected a fossil like yourself to have SS

[amber finch]

smh

p1 alone is already 2s for me

i just dont have enough sp and dmg

[neat hawk]

in starter manual it tells me to complete a story from part2 wont this spoil part 1?
isnt it wrong to put this in starter manual T-T

[ancient needle]

Whatever the Starter Manual requires is 100% fine, Part 2 and Part 1 are quite separate until Chapter 3-EX

[neat hawk]

i see

[ancient needle]

You might not understand some very minor details iirc, but that depends on how far you are into Part 1 story

[fierce shale]

Hello everyone

I'm a newbie..which characters should I pull for?

Also is sea server better than global?

[ancient needle]

They're the same in almost everything except the daily reset time and how sweaty the players are

SEA is a lot sweatier than EU

[fierce shale]

By sweatier you mean?

Competitive?

[ancient needle]

Save until the next patch (in 2 weeks)

[ancient needle]

Yes

And that does matter cuz the endgame modes here are competitive in nature

[fierce shale]

Well then I'm going global

Ok so is the yoyo girl still valid till now? @ancient needle cannot remember her name

[ancient needle]

Senadina, Deepspace Anchor: First Light
While she still has her uses, they're not applicable to beginners

[fierce shale]

Why not?

I have her full team..

[ancient needle]

Then you aren't that new

[fierce shale]

Well I left somewhere last year

[ancient needle]

Unless you're talking about Helia Coralie, which is not her best team anymore (not even close)

[fierce shale]

Coraile changed her team?

Hmm she's fire as I remember

[ancient needle]

Neither Helia nor Coralie are used for Sena DPS atp

[ancient needle]

The elements don't matter in Part 2 teambuilding

[fierce shale]

Hmm so a complete new start should be good

[ancient needle]

Yes

[fierce shale]

Ok then

[ancient needle]

Unless you have a lot of geared Part 1 teams

[fierce shale]

Damn this game reminds me of AG

[ancient needle]

If you're curious, Coralie stopped being the best in anything as soon as Thelema dropped (7.4, the next patch), but she became BiS for Vita DPS cuz of her weird requirements (7.8) and still is rn

Helia straight up died in 7.7-7.8

[neat hawk]

i heard that there is a john honkai in part 2 ts tru?

[naive pivot]

there was

[neat hawk]

was

i think i got the story

[naive pivot]

yes was

[neat hawk]

would have been sick if we still had him

it is what it is

[slim blaze]

Just go back to p2 chapter 1

Man. Its the stupid ganesha side stage again haha

[narrow coyote]

Are u real scammer?

[naive pivot]

well of course, it's their favorite stage

[slim blaze]

Nope

[narrow coyote]

Ok

[thick bolt]

We had a moneymaking stock market event. Ber went crazy and is now CEO

[slim blaze]

Errrr

Wdym

Buy low sell high!

[thick bolt]

[tulip thunder]

hi i just came back to the game and i was wondering who i should be aiming for

my best valk is horb seele

[runic canopy]

Save for next P2 valkyrie in 2 weeks

[tulip thunder]

is sparkle a no go?

[amber finch]

too mid to be considered and pulling for her after her initial release banner is a bad move

[tulip thunder]

ight thanks

what abt the new kiana

[amber finch]

.

[tulip thunder]

yeah but i love kiana

[amber finch]

if you dont care abt the meta then do whatever you want

its a game at the end of the day

[tulip thunder]

ight

[amber finch]

and its your account after all

just dont complain when you struggle in abyss or smt

we already got enough people who complain abt that

[torn owl]

How much storage does HI3 take up on mobile right now?

[thick bolt]

!faq gamesize

[small willow]

v8.1 approx. install size

• Mobile

basic assets ~ 27 GB
full assets ~ 37 GB

• PC

basic assets ~ 37.5 GB
full assets ~ 50.5 GB
(Event files that come out after are not counted here)

[amber finch]

here’s a more rough estimate

[naive pivot]

m🤮bile

[amber finch]

i remember pressing full download idk why it isnt 37+ gb

prob deleted something

can i follow this or is my fps too low https://youtu.be/JMH8Wy-ovUY

imma go try it out

[naive pivot]

why is your FPS low

[amber finch]

what the freak

how is his thel killing that fast

[amber finch]

because its a 60hz screen

[naive pivot]

FPS can go above your hz, you know

[amber finch]

its mobile, its still a 60hz screen, its mobile

[naive pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1197360988580761712/1331060992200937473/kitty-puke-puke.gif

[amber finch]

anyways if you dont help then shuddup smh

[naive pivot]

why is your phone only 60hz

[amber finch]

what am i doing wrong

hmghe

[naive pivot]

[slim blaze]

Device issue. Get better skill

[abstract sequoia]

higher fps is to reduce input lag, your hertz rate is just a nice plus

75hz display player

[calm kernel]

phones are limited by touch sampling rate though

[abstract sequoia]

that's different?

[calm kernel]

i think on iphones its like 120hz, dunno about lower models

[abstract sequoia]

never saw a spec for it honestly

just display rate

[calm kernel]

yeah like your isp will never advertise latency

consumer dont care

it's not relevant to 99.9% of people as long as its "good enough"

[abstract sequoia]

well I care now that I hear it

will keep it in mind if I ever upgrade my phone

i mean some reviewers probably test it

[calm kernel]

usually you could expect it to be 2x the screen refresh rate

[abstract sequoia]

huh, so on 90hz it's 180?

but fps probably still matters

[calm kernel]

well, apparently according to quick google search on apples new giga pro max phones that have 120hz refresh rate its still 120hz sampling rate but that might not be correct

[abstract sequoia]

[narrow coyote]

I need only 3 left and tell me which Valkyrie should I buy?

[narrow coyote]

Thx

Which Valkyrie should I buy?

[abstract sequoia]

short answer: anyone in ER

[calm kernel]

nvm, 16 pro max has 680hz sampling

so more than enough

[abstract sequoia]

[narrow coyote]

ER mean?

[abstract sequoia]

Elysian Realm

[narrow coyote]

Miss pink elysia?

[abstract sequoia]

if you actually click the faq i sent you will have a full list of valks to prioritize

[shadow gyro]

elysian realm is a game mode btw

[narrow coyote]

Ik I am asking which Valkyrie should I buy!??

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-prime-sonic-sonic2022-why-is-everyone-ignoring-me-gif-27271991

[abstract sequoia]

maybe don't ignore the faq then

[narrow coyote]

Ok

[abstract sequoia]

if the short letter terms for valkyries confuse you, check the Glossary of Terms linked in pins

[shadow gyro]

do you see the blue "here"? that's the guide you're looking for btw
its a link
you may also need to use the glossary if you don't understand the abbreviatives

[abstract sequoia]

And from those in ER, you can pick based on preference really

I mean many are actually fun to play there, even without optimal gear

[narrow coyote]

I don't understand

I have seen

I understand only meme ...

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message open this and search within it the terms you don't understand

leave it to the side since you'll have a lot of check

can bookmark this site as well

[narrow coyote]

Ok lemme read

[shadow gyro]

its better this way bc it will take time for someone in here to translate all of it to you

[abstract sequoia]

And next time, just press the channel name and click on the Pins button. There you will find a pin with a wall of guides, the Glossary being the very first link.

[narrow coyote]

Bad news... I m disabled child

Which i m deaf 🥲

This is not joke

[shadow gyro]

umm did you not understand the how to use written on the bottom of the blue link?

[abstract sequoia]

Mae just meant that I won't have to tell you that for example HoS stands for Herrscher of Sentience

[narrow coyote]

I have understand

[abstract sequoia]

because you can just read about it yourself

[frozen crypt]

apologies for the lack of subtitles, I am hearing impaired myself so I usually consider such things but it is a visual guide not an audio guide, it should be self explanatory just by watching what I do

[shadow gyro]

ah i didn't notice that the other link is a video guide... i was confused when the person mentioned them being deaf

[frozen crypt]

yeah ig they clicked the video since its first

[shadow gyro]

mhm

[narrow coyote]

It's fine i m wearing hearing aid but I don't understand when person speak normal i only understand when person speak slow

[narrow coyote]

I m like u and I am also sorry for ur hearing impaired

And I am also special child

[whole bloom]

Should I roll for herrscher of rebirth?

[autumn oxide]

no

[abstract sequoia]

Anything on the returnee banners is usually just bait and not worth your crystals over pulling new Valkyries.

[whole bloom]

Dang

[shadow gyro]

horb is in the returnee supply?
i thought it was lv

regardless there's no point aiming to get horb rn, she won't do much and you need a full team for her to function

[mystic hill]

Is the starter supply worth it to pull on in general or should i save pulls?

[shadow gyro]

no just do the one pull for the task

if you're interested in rerolling this is a guide #👶beginner-help message

[lyric anvil]

Made that mistake
Though most went to HoRb equipment supply on my starter, the other on my starter was LV

[frozen crypt]

my accent doesn't help lol

[sweet flax]

[narrow coyote]

Me too bro lol

[frozen crypt]

[dry python]

can you hear me

[amber finch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-surprised-wide-eyes-slow-turn-shocked-gif-17052477297537504976

[lyric anvil]

[narrow coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/baywatch-zac-efron-gif-19809637

Even Lyo can't hear u 🤣

[neat hawk]

If i won't be pulling suchang
Is getting thelema as my first s rank good or bad

[amber finch]

not a good idea

[amber finch]

thel is nearing a year old atp

[neat hawk]

Hmm

Do we have an idea on who is after suchang

[amber finch]

no

[neat hawk]

Her being almost a year old

Does this make her weak?

[amber finch]

nope

just means she’s not as future proof as getting a newer unit

[quick birch]

It's not that she is weak really it's that her shill is over which means she is more niche and that she won't last as long as a new valk and she can't support any future AR type. Check out the backpull pin that you were already linked to for why you want to experience the full shill of a valk

[neat hawk]

I just read it

So looks like i will be saving for 8.3

[frozen crypt]

Valkyries are used most frequently around their release and shortly after some of them get a buff via '???' tags, meaning they will become a support for an astral ring type not released yet

[charred cloud]

future proof

[frozen crypt]

So there's not much point pulling a valkyrie that isn't going to be useful when new astral ring come out

[neat hawk]

Do we have an idea on when the new one comes out?

[frozen crypt]

Not exactly but its been hinted a lot, multiple valkyries have locked tags

Probably 8.3 or 8.4

[neat hawk]

How long are patches usually

[quick birch]

No we've got 2 valks with the ??? Tag back to back and || sushang also has it || so rather soon

[frozen crypt]

Well from now on patches are around 9 weeks

They used to be 6

[charred cloud]

longer patches are boring but it does slow down the powercreep rates and most can actually afford most new stuff

[neat hawk]

63 days

[frozen crypt]

Also makes hoyo profit from this game crash

Idk wtf they're doing

Not many people are gonna spend to get ranks when their goal is only S0

[neat hawk]

I was thinking of skipping suchang and saving for 3.4

[quick birch]

We'll have to see how hoyos handles patches they've already made an exception with || 8.3 being only 8 weeks so the actually duration can fluctuate a bit ||

[neat hawk]

But 3.4 is so far

Thats about as far as phainon in hsr

[charred cloud]

why people get robbed on stellar keys now

[neat hawk]

Will we have an idea on who the 8.3 valk is when 8.2 drops?

[quick birch]

Sometimes you just have to wait for the next patch

[quick birch]

Not when 8.2 drops but CN should get a teaser a week later, that teaser doesn't really bring that much value since we still have to see how good the valk is. If it's only about the valk herself and not about how good she is keep up with #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins

[frozen crypt]

Not many ppl gonna whel for +3 either tbh

[neat hawk]

Will wait for the teaser
If i like her then ima wait if no thelema it is
I am playing casually anyways
Don't need best score just clearing is fine for me

[quick birch]

Well that's fine just be aware that abyss does impact your crystal income

[neat hawk]

oh word

even less of a reason to care XD

[frozen crypt]

Did u misunderstand or you just don't want crystals? lmao

[neat hawk]

i am a new humanity

the road to extinction starts with me

this level of illiteracy is an enigma

[charred cloud]

abyss is half of your income to put it that way

[neat hawk]

abyss is like MoC in hsr no?
there are enemies and rotating buffs as long as you can do the reqs ur good

so is me not getting the new valks prevent me from 0 cycle in hsr terms best possible result but max rewards from 8 iirc

or will it prevent me from reaching max rewards

[charred cloud]

Erm this is more unforgiving

since max reward is tied to retentions not your clear time

[neat hawk]

re what?

[charred cloud]

U can clear it sure but if u get outplayed u get less

Abyss has tiers of difficulty

[quick birch]

abyss works different here dont try to apply you hsr knowledge. first of all its competetive so you compete against other players, based on your performance you get throphies and the more thropies get you to a higher rank. and different ranks have different rewards

[charred cloud]

You play against 19 other players to get trophies

More trophies means a harder tier. Harder tier is more xtals upon finalization

[neat hawk]

oooooh

fkin ranked??

[charred cloud]

Agony 3 to Red Lotus retention is 80 xtal difference on its own which is 160 per week

[quick birch]

its a competitive game after all so basically

[neat hawk]

do i need to be the best out of the 19
or is there a rank that as long as i reach i am fine

[neat hawk]

HI3 IS COMPETETIVE???

you learn something new everyday

[charred cloud]

the game doesn't even hide this

[quick birch]

not in the sense of e-sport but the main endgame mode is competeting against other players

[neat hawk]

i am the clueless one

how big is the difference

[quick birch]

check out the faq

[neat hawk]

i am playing super casually here for story mainly

oh ok

[quick birch]

in the end you have to decide for yourself what rank you feel like is the perfect balance for your

[neat hawk]

i get it now

not that bad

what tier does the average player get

i aint gon sweat this

[amber finch]

rl

the avg casual usually bounce between a3-rl

[quick birch]

a3/rl is pretty easy to retain for most ppl once you have an established team, especially EU since its less competetive than SEA for example

[neat hawk]

if i did pull thelema is it possible to reach it?

[amber finch]

its a pretty low bar but not immediately

it’ll take you like 5-6 months and the right weathers

[neat hawk]

OH

[amber finch]

actually with patches being 9 weeks now it should be longer

[neat hawk]

so its legit ranked with climbing etc

[amber finch]

well yeah that’s what people have been telling you

[neat hawk]

i thought the trophies reset

like every abyss is a league of its own

[amber finch]

congrats it doesnt

[neat hawk]

i will just do my best in abyss

wont stress over it

[charred cloud]

I mean trophies do reset for Nirv players but it drops it back to 3k which does nothing in the grand scheme of things

[amber finch]

if you wanna do your best then you shouldnt pull thel

[neat hawk]

while pulling her
dude
she is cute af

[urban lake]

do u hate sirin gameplay or sirin herself?

[amber finch]

whatever you want

[urban lake]

[neat hawk]

mb
no mercy no forgiveness

i hate her down to my soul

[amber finch]

too bad delete that message

[urban lake]

u done p1 story?

[neat hawk]

nope

[urban lake]

xd

[neat hawk]

just till act 9

[amber finch]

this channel has a strict no spoilers policy

[urban lake]

u in for a ride

[neat hawk]

backtracking vns etc

i dont think anything will make me forgive this i still have ptsd

[urban lake]

btw channel description xd

[urban lake]

OH BOY WAIT TILL YOU PLAY CH25

[neat hawk]

yeah yeah i removed it dw

[urban lake]

ik just saying xd

[amber finch]

kinda want 8.2 valk

[neat hawk]

man i dont know how to feel about this

[amber finch]

but im dirt poor

[urban lake]

how much?

[amber finch]

10k

[urban lake]

u can 4/4 her, patch is long enough, with luck

[amber finch]

not even enough for valk

[amber finch]

i want her but i dont want her

also i cant 4/4 her

[urban lake]

#🎮honkai-chat

[amber finch]

i can only get like 20k at best wdym

dont try to give me misinfo

[steep scroll]

which one of the devine keys (the funny looking weapons in realms of battle) do i claim?

[amber finch]

brb

[amber finch]

@steep scroll

[autumn oxide]

ches how to abyss

[lyric anvil]

The Star of Eden description

[amber finch]

i slep

[autumn oxide]

dont u hv sparkle

[amber finch]

no what

i hate her ass

[autumn oxide]

arent u a filthy hsr player

[amber finch]

i tried it for like a week and decided that i dont like it

[abstract sequoia]

Fair

[amber finch]

also i was dirt poor when sparkle became a thing

[amber finch]

(actually it was a month)

[abstract sequoia]

Damn okay

[amber finch]

i stretched it out super hard but i just couldnt

[abstract sequoia]

Sounds like how most start hi3

[amber finch]

true kek

anyways i want 8.2 but i also dont want her bc im poor

[abstract sequoia]

How poor

[amber finch]

10k

what if 8.3 is smt super kool tho

[abstract sequoia]

I mean you'll have 6 weeks

[amber finch]

my gambler mindset is holding me back grr

[abstract sequoia]

• whats left of this patch

[amber finch]

[abstract sequoia]

I'd do the math and see where you end up

[amber finch]

yea

[steep scroll]

how to do this

im trynna actually finish this before it runs out

[ancient needle]

Attack -> Start -> Open World
You might need to do a bit of story there to unlock the tasks

(also, what are you pulling rn )

[steep scroll]

well that's my question. how much story?

[steep scroll]

don't question it

[ancient needle]

Can't tell exactly, but it shouldn't be much
iirc you need to complete 1.3 in APHO?

[steep scroll]

js finished 1.1

[steep scroll]

i wanna get senadina but ik she's too old so I'm getting durandal

istg if u show me the back pulling faq i might crash out

[lyric anvil]

[ancient needle]

ig Dudu is not a terrible pick

[lyric anvil]

Tbf, she can support the future ar type

[ancient needle]

Ye, that's the exact reason

[rotund pasture]

Can I do better?

[sweet flax]

Why would you use vbm with fws

[ancient needle]

Replace Coralie with HoHE

[sweet flax]

Also generally speaking, you'd have to record a run to determine for sure if there's room for improvement

Scores can vary a lot

[rotund pasture]

ohkay ill try to remember

[rotund pasture]

okay

[ancient needle]

Coralie is used only if you literally don't have other options

[rotund pasture]

https://youtu.be/PosUzGDXF2I?si=KOhEJbeTm-9VVvtV

[sweet flax]

You can jump hold atk when the boss spawns to instantly qte into jds, on hohe you'd preferably want to hold your weapon skill for a split second instead of tapping it (saves time), if you can't hit both blue projectiles during phase switch, it's better to restart the run since you'd essentially be wasting time

[rotund pasture]

okay ty ill try that later

[ancient needle]

You're also swapping to Songque too often, not much sense in that considering she's weapless

Maybe do that every other cycle instead of every cycle

Also you could've went straight into SO after the transition, SO applies all the buffs automatically

[ancient needle]

I meant after Songque (you should've swapped to HoHE there btw, she deals a lot more damage in your case)

[autumn oxide]

:3

[rotund pasture]

So it doesnt matter who i so on?

[ancient needle]

It only matters for that little bit of DMG that happens from the wave SO emanates, but it's negligible in this case

[rotund pasture]

Wdym by that, I dont quite understand

[ancient needle]

Your Ring wasn't fully charged yet, so you needed to do 1 swap before SOing (which you did)

[rotund pasture]

Ohkay

I will retry and record a run when im bacj

[steep scroll]

uhh where do i get the stigmata for durandal?

[quick birch]

depends which durandal we are talking about, RS are in the foundry iirc PE stigamatas are also in the foundry

but you should get plenty of RS stigmata from her equipment banner

if you are talking about her

[steep scroll]

rs

oh and mobius too

[quick birch]

also in foundry

[steep scroll]

haven't pulled on it yet since I'm broke

[quick birch]

though mobuis stigmatas will take some time to farm

[steep scroll]

i can get both their stigmata from foundry then?

[quick birch]

then dont craft until you are finished with that

[steep scroll]

they're harder to get than rs stigmata?

[quick birch]

yes a lot

[steep scroll]

doubt I'd achieve her sig before her banner ends but imma try my hardest

I'm only on phase 9 of the beginner guide book thingi tho so i think i can manage enough for her sig

[quick birch]

p2 stigmatas are prism stigmatas which only require 2 prism + 600 ether fuel while mobius stigmatas are G4 stigmatas which require materials from universal and a lot more ether fuel

[quick birch]

in general you dont want to pull a char without guaranteeing their weapon, most of the time a huge dmg and utility loss while for some valks their dps gameplay is also bricked without it

[steep scroll]

pretty sure i can manage 54 pulls hopefully

[steep scroll]

i see. how do I get Mobius's sig tho? i got lucky in dorm supply with herself but idk how to get her sig

[quick birch]

no way to obtain it currently, oath of judah is a fine substitute but mobius wont really be of that much use for you tbh.

[austere phoenix]

certified Bronya hater

whyyyyy

[steep scroll]

well i js like her

[steep scroll]

hated her since i first played the game when mobius dropped. still hate her now that I'm back

[steep scroll]

how to get more honkai shards?

[steep scroll]

where is oath of judah?

[shadow gyro]

in the exchange shop

[steep scroll]

well actually rs and mobius will hopefully carry me

[steep scroll]

is it expensive?

[shadow gyro]

it does require 4k weapon resonance
you'll need to grind a cheap bounty weapon from the foundry and convert and repeat 4 times
won't be surprising if it took a month or more if youre starting from scratch

[dry python]

Imagine farming weapon resonance in 2025 thank god I'm not in that position

[steep scroll]

a whole month...

[shadow gyro]

but you won't have a problem with that as u can do mirage as u do ur other stuff
unless you have p2 stigmatas to farm its an ok process

the only other way to get it is from ||the 8.2 bp but that would take 2 versions to get||

[steep scroll]

i love mobius too much to not give her a usable weapon at least

[steep scroll]

well i do have to get one more stigmata for rs but that's about it

unless i coralie and helia want p2 stigmata too?

[shadow gyro]

yeah do rs first then farm for judah

[steep scroll]

only have these three as my p2 valks

[steep scroll]

well is the stigmata system here rng like genshin or do we have sth like usb's like pgr for guarantee good stuff on memories?

[shadow gyro]

well helia is hardly used, she's more as a cope option for your world star valks or vita if you have a missing slot
coralie can use teri gluttony + fhm tb in the meantime

if you do end up with a surplus of mats then maybe you can go for Coralie but i would suggest waiting first

[steep scroll]

uhhhh so i js worry about rs then mobius then the others right?

[shadow gyro]

not sure about pgr, i only know about genshin

the stigmata for p2 units will always be in the foundry, p1 stigmatas are mainly gacha, they take time to eventually be added to bp, exchange shop and foundry

[steep scroll]

oh yeah i only saw one forgeable wep for rs til i get her sig is that enough for now? I'm only lvl 56 rn xd

[shadow gyro]

well they don't get added to all three really but they eventually get added to one asp

[steep scroll]

in pgr u can basically guarantee ur substats if u get some kinda usb from events and stuff. (like +1 signature move level and stuff like that)

[shadow gyro]

the foundry stuff is usually way way worse than the og weapon
you can get it and level it to level 35 tho, just to not waste mats

[steep scroll]

well i was gonna go out of my way to get honkai shards to get it to max

seems like I won't do it

[shadow gyro]

hmm well there isn't something like that in this game, the main stats in the stigmata is always the same, its only the affixes and u use a different mat to change the stats to what you want but that's not a concern for you rn

[shadow gyro]

absolutely not, the return isn't worth the mats

[steep scroll]

fair fair. so i js level them to max and be happy?

[steep scroll]

i see.

[shadow gyro]

its only worth maxing the bis weapon for the valk you'll use long term

[steep scroll]

i js keep spamming mirage until i get her other stigmata

[shadow gyro]

all new valks have a sig weapon you wanna get when you go to pull the valk

so make sure you save up enough for the valk and weapon

[steep scroll]

yes I'm familiar with how you'll lose alot without the sig wep from pgr

[shadow gyro]

you would also notice how a lot of stuff are locked behind valk bonuses

[steep scroll]

bonuses?

[shadow gyro]

basically imagine something like
character deals 100 dmg
if used by valk xyz, deal 10000 dmg

[steep scroll]

what...

are valk and character different things here?

[shadow gyro]

old stigmatas and weapons that you're probably using doesn't have that so its not a worry
its only relevant for the new characters that you'll level

[shadow gyro]

no no its not

i was just providing an example lol

[steep scroll]

fair

aight imma go spam mirage and be back when i got my stigmata xd

where do farm the mats for rs skills tho?

unlike p1 valks the new ones don't only use coins afaik

[shadow gyro]

they both use the same materials afaik

i forgot the name of the other but you can farm a lil of it daily from the daily expeditions

[steep scroll]

fair

[shadow gyro]

this is what i mean btw
this is an example from fws (aka new kiana)
you would notice that if i were to give this stigmata piece to a random fire valk they can use the fire buff and the atk
but all of the yellow part is useless
but if i were to give it to fws then she makes max use out of it and gets all of the good stuff

same scenario applies to recent weapons as well

[steep scroll]

how do y'all even get em? events?

[shadow gyro]

they've in events too yes

i think you can get them from adventure tasks?

and i suppose progressing through the story should give you some

[steep scroll]

ohhhh so basically signature stigmata sets

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[steep scroll]

oh fair. so a lil bit from everywhere

no sustainable source?

[shadow gyro]

tbf this technique did existed for a good long time but for the most part all of the gear that early/mid players would have dont have these restrictions

[steep scroll]

fair

[shadow gyro]

i think part 2 map also give you some

aside from events and daily expeditions i guess you can also get bulk of them from the asterite shop, other methods i don't really recommend or you won't have access to rn

[neat hawk]

do you need 3 astral ring characters to activate the mechanic or is 2 enough
just for activation

[thick bolt]

just the leader having it is enough

The additional members boost the leader skill ring buffs

and apart from the exception of RoO counting for a slot in most cases means they can support the leader leading to smoother rots and actual teamcomps instead of having to cook up something with copium

[rotund pasture]

so i didnt record, will do now but it seemed more aggressive when i hit the blue things first try, constantly got thrown around

whys the timing on the blue things so hard

[neat hawk]

dont remember where is chronciles tab

any help?

[quick birch]

attack -> start -> voyage log -> top right corner go to chronicles

[neat hawk]

tysm!

[hasty swift]

what is total dmg and elemental dmg referring to?

[quick birch]

If you mean the buffs total DMG just increases every DMG type and elemental DMG increases elemental DMG ( ice fire lightning ). The big difference is that if you have 2 different buffs they multiply with each other and won't just stack as if they were the same buff

Does that make it clear ?

[hasty swift]

yep thank you

i was thinking the same thing but then thought the total dmg must be something else

[tacit mist]

What do I get from here? I'm done with pulling and only have 4* Kiana ELF.
Not sure whether to get HoRB stamps (I don't have HoRB) or just get all the elf boxes.

[shadow gyro]

don't get the stamps, u can only use it when u have the valk, u can't unlock a valk with it

can consider the elf box if you think you can use any other elf, but that depends on who you're using

[frozen crypt]

oh wait wrong chat

[heady relic]

demot when

[frozen crypt]

You will take over my help channel responsibilities for me yes?

[opal ingot]

Hit us with the 'ole 8 hour slow mode before you go

[obsidian quartz]

Could i have that link for the early teambuilding

[ancient needle]

#👶beginner-help message

You can just search the messages for "!faq fhm" in the future

[obsidian quartz]

thanks

[frozen crypt]

Reminds me of someone

[opal ingot]

[neat crow]

should i be getting the pri arm asap?

[thick bolt]

if possible yeah

can't go wrong with more atk and buffs

[whole bloom]

What is aponia signet do? I don't understand how it function

[thick bolt]

each signet provides passive stacks each second upto 200 along with buffs based on the amount of stacks you have.

Doing certain actions however reduces stacks depending on which signets you have.

[whole bloom]

What is that action? So I can avoid

[thick bolt]

Depends on which signet you chose.
Unique condition for each like for one it's reaching 160 combo hits, for another it's performing ultimate evade, and another using weapon skills

There's an ER guide in the pins for each valk so you can refer to that for the signet builds. Should help if aponia signets are in there

[whole bloom]

Aponia signet sound suck to me tbh

[thick bolt]

not the preferred choice for most builds tbh

[onyx lynx]

A reminder for strats:
#💁gameplay-help message

[steep scroll]

why is mobius with nothing on her doing more than my rs

[lime narwhal]

Guys, idk if i should ask here or in gameplay help but:
Im a new player, and im liking the game quite a bit, especially bcs of the long story.
Since im new, i can buy the lvl up bundle that rewards us with herrscher of human ego as a battlesuit and...she is really pretty.
However, searching a bit i discovered that she just had a rerun with a new weapon, and question is: how much would i be losing without said weapon? I could just get ego key from a starter weapon event

[thick bolt]

She's benched for the most part without the new weap.

The old weap is still benched since it just has more pre req cost to even be made 'viable' with a drastically worse performance. Won't recommend getting key of ego from the box.

||Her new weapon does get a rerun though next patch if you really want it you can save till then for that but I'd still keep it a 2nd prio as compared to getting the new battlesuit.
Heck considering the starter one time crystals you can honestly aim for both, just do confirm your crystal count before you go through with it.||

The main appeal of the level up bundle is the crystals anyway, the valk is an added bonus.

[odd plume]

her wp alone wont do shit, you need more to make her viable, they are more expensive, even with all that, she has quite niche use, better just focus on brand new stuffs, cheaper and longer shelflife

[lime narwhal]

The added is really pretty tho haha, but wait so her new weap will yet come, not already did? Thats really interesting.
And for the most part as a new player i guess ill pretty okay with gems... Or even tho the story is pretty big we dont get thaaat much gems from it?

[lime narwhal]

I mean i got kinda Lucky and got senadina in my first 10 pulls of the 90d beginner banner, how is she on that regard?

[slim blaze]

It really is beginner luck

[ancient needle]

She's very nice for earlygame, whether you'll get to use her properly though will depend on future releases (very unlikely tbh)

[lime narwhal]

Yikes

[boreal prism]

Does anyone know how to beat 11-18? The thing just keeps respawning

[undone helm]

hey everyone i have a question, i have now 12 sprout crystallum. should i wait to get more or should i buy something from the BP shop?

[primal heron]

wdym by keep respawning?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFznc-TBQH4&ab_channel=XoXoPD

[odd plume]

if you dont have 7T yet, just buy it now

[mental orchid]

she is great! you can make a good team for basically free with helia and coralie (that you obtain from doing the part 2 story) and she can be a good support for a lot of new characters

• coralie weapon is free also

[ruby berry]

What stats should i focus on when it comes to sparkle's stigmas?

[wintry wharf]

all atk

[abstract sequoia]

Her new weapon ran and released on the first 2 weeks of this patch (Feb 20th - Mar 7th). Her valk is what didn't get a rerun in that timeframe.

[urban lake]

lyo demote getting closer and closer XD

[frozen crypt]

[ruby berry]

Oh okay tyyy

[tulip thunder]

is there anyone worth getting in the asterite shop and war treasury shop?

[urban lake]

the valks?

[tulip thunder]

yes

[rotund roost]

Which lineup should I use for this stage?

[urban lake]

all the valks in war treasury are p1 valks and prolly arent gonna be used much in battle as newer valks in part 2 of the game release

but you can still make use of them if they're built

and u have some insane skills

but they give dorm exp

[tulip thunder]

what abt fragments? the sirin ones and senti ones

[urban lake]

um if your building sirin then know she isn't exactly useful

like shes only good at 4/4 equipment SSS rank

and just barely

[tulip thunder]

aw

[urban lake]

in Abyss atleast

but it's your choice who you want to build

[tulip thunder]

is senti still good?

[urban lake]

the latest additions in WT are Herrscher of Flamescion

[tulip thunder]

huh where

[urban lake]

Idk much about her, but all I know she was the best of her time, prolly not much today but idk I dont use her

[tulip thunder]

ight

[urban lake]

sry

[tulip thunder]

ohh hof

[urban lake]

meant flame

[tulip thunder]

thanks anw

[urban lake]

XD

um leme open the game real quick

[tulip thunder]

anything i should be doing to get gems? im a returnee

[urban lake]

returnee misions you mean?

[tulip thunder]

no

[urban lake]

but in general get as many Crystals as you can

[tulip thunder]

also is there no one worth getting in the asterite shop?

[urban lake]

the valks in asterite shop are for p1 teams only and mainly just used to rank up to max out dorm lvl, which gives stat buffs

[tulip thunder]

ight thanks

[slim blaze]

also for ER

[urban lake]

lemme just open game to confirm some things

[urban lake]

yes Elysian Realm too @tulip thunder

[slim blaze]

kewl

[tulip thunder]

yeahh

[urban lake]

valks unlocked in Elysian realm give alot of Crystals

so be sure to get valks in ER when u cam

[tulip thunder]

thanks ppl

[urban lake]

yeah all the valks in WT are just in decline now, only insane ppl can use them in Abyss (looking at you @frozen crypt )

just use them for getting crystals in ER and getting dorm exp for dorm buffs for now

[frozen crypt]

[urban lake]

[grave fox]

Are sparkle and elysia (with p1 equipment thats 2/4) still relevant in elysian realm? I missed out a lot this version and i just got back

[shadow gyro]

ER got no competition side
u can still use thesr characters for er as much as u want
there's also an er event where u can pick a character from the list and clear with them instead

just know that the er event clears doesn't count towards lite

[grave fox]

alr ty!!

[primal pumice]

Hi I was wondering which one I should pick as a beginner

Praying you guys say cosmic expression her lasers look so cool 😭😭

[fair lance]

None of them see any significant use nowadays, but Kira (middle) is probably the most useful for most fresh accounts

regardless all of them are farmable so if you like them you can get them pretty easily

[primal pumice]

Oou okay thank you 🥰

[rotund roost]

Is there still enough time to complete the third and 4th one?

but only doing 1 at a time?

[shadow gyro]

yeah u still have this month to do both
start with the blood moon event first because of its daily stuff

u can do 2 of the characters for the er event for this week instead of the usual deep sequence run

but do remember to do all the 4 characters before the event ends

[primal heron]

is that erased?

[steep scroll]

can i do er without interfering with it's story cuz i kinda need to do it for beginner guide book thingi

[primal heron]

i kinda forget but i think to do the weekly u need to do the story i kinda forget

[shadow gyro]

yeah you do wanna progress a bit to unlock deep sequence
im not sure about this er event tho

[steep scroll]

what...

[shadow gyro]

can you show the task that you need to do for the beginner guide?

[lapis mason]

are there any non stigma but just generel pictures of rita, drudandal and their cute cat

[mental python]

I want to try clearing elysian reams with Senti on Inferno difficulty but failed on floor 12 with the big robot… any tips ? 😔 like which teammates / sigil and main Signet should I go for ?
I assume by getting her to level 15 it will eventually become doable ?

[shadow gyro]

hmm does the manga count? i think the cat's story is in the manga

[shadow gyro]

yeah you'll have to progress in the er story for that

[steep scroll]

sooo i have to eventually get my normal story to ch25 if i care about the lore right?

[ancient needle]

Yes

[shadow gyro]

if you wanna follow the story in the lore order but you're far off, maybe you can watch a walkthrough in the right order to avoid spoilers
so you can still do the late chapters or gamemodes without worrying too much

[steep scroll]

walkthrough?

uhhh can i js skip everything in er and do em again to avoid spoilers or nah?

[shadow gyro]

basically you can watch YouTube videos of the chapters u wanna see

without having to wait for ur stamina each time to progress

[steep scroll]

might aswell do em myself

[shadow gyro]

fair enough

[steep scroll]

i have 250 juices and 1k stamina overflowing

[slim blaze]

U can do

[shadow gyro]

im not sure if you can replay er story but again u can always see vids on yt

[slim blaze]

The forbidden method

Crystals to stamina

[ripe geyser]

Is dudu worth it right now

[slim blaze]

No just save

[steep scroll]

idk what to do with my stamina so ig win win for me?

[shadow gyro]

go go on that story grind

[steep scroll]

yeah.

[shadow gyro]

yeah
just don't burn yourself out

[steep scroll]

I'd do that if i was BROKE

i have too much stamina dw

[shadow gyro]

from the amount of progress that you'll do

[steep scroll]

I'm back to hi3 cuz i burnt myself out in my other gacha's

that's why i stopped neglecting pgr n hi3

[shadow gyro]

understandable, still you can still progress fine
you can see whats left in the p1 story until you can reach the right chapter for er since u care about the lore
just know that if you skipped anything look up the chapter on yt to watch again

as for cgs u can always view them from the main page

[steep scroll]

i mean... tbh i only play pgr for gameplay and hi3 for story...

anyways ty for the help

[lapis mason]

oh there is?? i dindt even know they had a manga besides ingame

[shadow gyro]

yeah there is
u can go to the phone icon on the bottom right and btwn the menus there's a manga icon

[lapis mason]

ohhhhhhhhhhhh

thanks!

and the mangas are canon?

[shadow gyro]

tbh i hardly read the manga but u don't really need it to progress in the in game story

the manga is very long tho so if you do wanna read it take ur time

[abstract sequoia]

Most of them are yes. A recommended reading order can be found in the #📚honkai-lore pins and on Hoyostans https://hoyostans.be/explore/honkai-impact-3rd/story-guide-hi3/

the hoyostans one is mostly based on lore order that fits with the gameplay, even suggesting you to skip a chapter from some mangas for later (like for the Divine Key mangas)

[lapis mason]

thank you so much!! i will look into reading them :D

[lime narwhal]

This is rly good to know, she is honestly so pretty

[odd plume]

in theory, senadina can be pretty good
but for new player, she isn't that great, just usable