👶beginner-help

[abstract sequoia]

witu Aslaug

[sweet flax]

Doing that aslaug tmb

[narrow heron]

I got AE and FR cuz I liked them and they were in the HoT guide page recommended team, but I guess everyone can use AE anyways she’s everywhere I look at in guide pages (i know these guides are outdated, just saying she looks universal)

[abstract sequoia]

oh, and you have wep?

[ancient needle]

Yeah, she was the support for ele teams for a very long while

[sweet flax]

Mag pri lol

[ancient needle]

A Breach support to be exact

[abstract sequoia]

that might be the biggest issue..

[narrow heron]

Ae or fr?

[sweet flax]

Tbh it was also skill issue, new score is 694

[abstract sequoia]

could wing it ig, the hoo rots are just gonna be weird

maybe something with eva CD can help

[sweet flax]

I'll record a run probs

[narrow heron]

So back to my very first question, I was told apho Bronya’s best stigmata set consists of only 2 of her set
Which piece slot is the one for the third different piece? Or is it variable?

[sweet flax]

After food tho, me hangy

[narrow heron]

Like t or m or b

[spiral badge]

Nex TB and then HoTr's M piece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN5doyYiSt8

[narrow heron]

I’ll make t and b first then, if by the time I’ll make them an opportunity arises to get the HoTr M i’ll get that and if not I’ll just make her M piece

[ancient needle]

Keep in mind that HoTr M is in BP rn, and you can convert up to 5 new balls to old ones in the next patch

[sweet flax]

Technically you could get hotr m via vintage

[narrow heron]

Oooh right

I can get 2 more balls from this patch

And 5 more new balls from next patch

Should be good

Wait

[sinful hatch]

what is stronger in buffs the kiana elf or the travvler p2 ? for p2 teams

[spiral badge]

just in case, when crafting T and B i encourage you to wait until you have enough resources for both at once rather than rushing one or the other first

[narrow heron]

It needs 10 balls

That’s not gonna be enough is it lol

[spiral badge]

traveler? Dreamseeker you mean?

[sinful hatch]

yes

[spiral badge]

what ranks are they? That should also be specified. DS can reach SS while Kiana's main rank is 3*

but anyway it's situational whether you want DS or Kiana elf

[sinful hatch]

kiana elf is S and dreamseeker SS

[narrow heron]

Unless they add the trio to the legacy shop down the line

[spiral badge]

DS you'll mainly value for her higher initial ARI to go into outburst sooner

they also provide slightly higher damage outside of outburst

[spiral badge]

give it another look. Elves don't go by S SS SSS etc

Kiana elf you'll mainly value for fire and lightning dps teams that don't need to go into outburst asap but wants to deal higher damage during outburst

[ancient needle]

While most ELFs are S-ranks the thing that actually matters is their stars

[narrow heron]

Bella, Tesla ZERO, Elf Elysia
Which one is better?

[haughty elbow]

none of them are really used ever

[spiral badge]

what kind of objective do you have for them?

[narrow heron]

Do elfs ever get used?

[haughty elbow]

kiana and pb do

[sweet flax]

both at 3* min

[spiral badge]

they do but mostly as f2p efficient options nowadays rather than best options (aside from niche scenarios)

but i mean you are casual

so your priorities aren't really meta related. We may not need to go down this rabbit hole lol

[narrow heron]

I just heard we’ll be able to pick one next patch and I like these girls more than the others but couldn’t decide between them

[spiral badge]

right but they are all used for different things strictly speaking

[narrow heron]

Yeah I just noticed each is for a different element

Since I Have HoT Bella she be good for her

[sweet flax]

hot would prefer kiaelf

[narrow heron]

While HoHe uses astraops instead of an elf

[narrow heron]

Oh I see

[spiral badge]

t0 is for physical. can apply bleed. two generations behind via durandal > p.bunny

benares is for lightning. two generations behind klein > kiana

elf elysia is prob the most generally best out of the three but only because she has more utility in gathering and maybe switch cdr too? idr. She's mainly for ice. no longer recommended because meta ice is all in p2 nowadays

[narrow heron]

The more down the newer the better it seems

[spiral badge]

loosely sure but the main one to consider is kiana elf really

meta wise ofc

[sweet flax]

kiaelf just has the most coverage

[narrow heron]

Can I keep the selectable box?

Like would the content get updated?

[sweet flax]

as long as there's no timer on the box, its permanent

[spiral badge]

kiana elf

• covers fire and lightning mainly but also general elemental to a lesser degree
• fast gather from the ult and also when the valk uses their combo attacks
• also swap cooldown reduction

[sweet flax]

no, the content remains the same as when you got it

either way, all elfs are available, I doubt they are gonna put SOs in boxes anytime soon

[haughty elbow]

no

u could save it for when u have 3* since 4* costs more frags tho

[granite brook]

is ss theresa better than 3 star kiana elf for trio

[spiral badge]

i'm actually not sure yet

[granite brook]

ill try both then

[spiral badge]

nirv reference i'm seeing is still using ss songque prob for double ring strats

[granite brook]

at the very least kiana's first combo attack counts as resonsnace attack for ar regen

[spiral badge]

does it? resonance is for world star

it's the outburst thing with the marks and the detonators

but hofi has domain resonance which songque prob benefits

https://i.imgur.com/508QOem.png

https://i.imgur.com/stHY9VB.png

[sweet flax]

no

even 2* kiaelf is better for trio than teri

[spiral badge]

songque's first passive skill is also notable. gives a bit more ari on weapon usages

[granite brook]

oh not resonance the thing oblivion attack that regens 36 ar from teri

[wild forum]

wait I see this correctly, I have to level EVERY single stigmata 3-set once to 25for the dorm to move them in?

[sweet flax]

4* kiaelf > songque > ss ds > 3* kiaelf >= sss teri > 2* kiaelf > ss teri = s teri for herrscher trio

[granite brook]

what abt ss teri

[narrow heron]

What are the things that I should never buy with astrites?
I assume I should always buy the stuff that refresh with versions like ET

[granite brook]

cuz of regen

[sweet flax]

nah I dont think ss teri is better than kiaelf

id say even sss teri is maybe comparable to 3* kiaelf

[sweet flax]

stigmatas dont affect anything for dorm, you want to obtain the valks themselves

the stigmatas just appear as a figure moving around your dorm

[sweet flax]

account dependant

[narrow heron]

Is it not like some resources have ample income from other sources while some don’t?

[wild forum]

so this is irrelevant for anything?

so them appearing doesnt change anything ok

[sweet flax]

ye, they just give you materials to build things in your dorm, same materials are purchasable with coins

you'll over time get them anyways, no point wasting resources into it

[wild forum]

yeah I was like "there is no way you go upgrade everything" when I read this

[narrow heron]

All I get from dorm is coins tho

And the expeditions
I never looked at what I got from them tho

I mean not expeditions

Errands

[wild forum]

yeah but you would get more coins if you raise the dorm levels

and more account wide stats up to dorm 45

[narrow heron]

For example it looks like buying sc metal or spatial lens using astrites is resonable since I don’t really find a good income source for them
While fluid alloy, we get 3 per day anyways

[wild forum]

28% ele and 6% total dmg and 85 atk is a crazy amount of lacking dmg

85 atk alone is similar to having no -> good refines almost on all 3

[ancient needle]

Also higher Dorm level increases the chances of getting crystals

[outer spruce]

dorm errand crystals like this

[ancient needle]

Though you do need ranks on some S-ranks and/or ELFs to be able to complete them

[ancient needle]

The ranks are not super difficult to get really on AW valks

[narrow heron]

These stuff are bought using coins anyways not astrites

[wild forum]

do we know how often the divine keys will show up? like for hohe

or how often did the DK of the other chars rotate so far how long were the gaps usually?

[sweet flax]

its completely random

hoyo decides

we had no dkeys from 6.1 till 7.0 then till 7.8, then hohe in 8.1

[spiral badge]

can check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins for a foresight of officially known future info

[wild forum]

sorry I didnt mean new chars getting them at random but the re-runs of already existing ones

like second run of divine key for hohe

[tropic cedar]

Um should I tune it or nah?

[sweet flax]

also random

[wild forum]

[sweet flax]

though I will say, every 4 patches seems to be the sweet spot, +- 1 patch

[wild forum]

unlucky hohe I started game late for her key so she's now useless until her key reruns for P2

[wild forum]

so at best around twice per year

[sweet flax]

its still random, brick reran 2 patches after it released

hofi dkey reran 3 patches later

[wild forum]

lets pray for 2 so its out while she's somewhat useful

so I see this correct I upgrade the dorm for them for more errand points?

[sweet flax]

ye, the regen rate is tied to furniture owned (not placed)

[wild forum]

oh wow you saved me half a day decorating from now was about to start x_x

[novel portal]

When is Elysia's new weapon coming or am I too late? (My stupid laptop was broken so I couldnt play, but im not caught up with all the honkai impact updates and release times)

[wild forum]

so in order to get more comfort I need to renovate .. which in itself requires a higher comfort level

[sweet flax]

it left 2 weeks ago, rerun is uncertain

[wild forum]

so I gotta farm more in the collection inbetween those renovations?

[abstract sequoia]

no you just buy more furniture with lego blocks

thats all you have to do to increase comfort

[novel portal]

aw man, I was so excited but my laptop broke down exactly at the wrong time

[sweet flax]

renovate in this case means owning furniture, bad translation

[wild forum]

ok because on the first screenshot it said it had to do with renovation so I was confused it being useless

[abstract sequoia]

bad translation

like asumara said

[sweet flax]

we made sure to let you know in the faq

[wild forum]

ok so collection = big stonks

crypto unplaced funiture

[sweet flax]

ye, and you can check with the faq to know the most effecient things to buy

[wild forum]

yeah it said that in the second part of that sentence with owning more furniture in the collection so I thought i was 2 different things

[wild forum]

ty

[granite brook]

does hofi have any seed instakill mechanic?

[sudden oracle]

N for what?

[sweet flax]

If Ultimate hits IMG-type enemies, 100% of the DMG a Nihilus Shell takes will be transferred to its Nihilus Seed (reflected by HP loss).

that's the only thing she has specifically for img enemies in her skills

[ancient needle]

The ones having execution are generally supps

DPSes have core pierce

[junior hound]

I looked at all the story quests but didn't find it, any idea what is it...?

[junior hound]

Why this game has to be so confusing out of nowhere

Another question, ill get Li-sushang from the beginners store, should i pull for her or her wep next patch?

I realized they'll give me her wep if i did 60 equipment draws

[wispy aurora]

These going to ever be used again?

[thick bolt]

Better to ask on patch day tbh since a final consensus on her will be out by then

But if you need info on her #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion is the place to go

also the starter manual sushang and || the new sushang are different units ||

[dull linden]

fellaS
best valk after Vita?

[lime talon]

what is universal mirage materials used for

[wispy aurora]

Crafting stigma and weapons (Can't remember if there's a 3rd)

[lime talon]

do i use time swirl pass on those

[wispy aurora]

Tickets?

[sweet flax]

check the mirage pin

[wispy aurora]

I'm so cooked this SSD - No HoFi trio

Back to A3 I go

[haughty elbow]

get to brute forcing

[wispy aurora]

with my account rn

I doubt that

[haughty elbow]

if u have a p2 team that isnt qua ur good

[low estuary]

are spending events only in anniversary?

[wispy aurora]

This is it

[haughty elbow]

i see a very nice badum there

go win

[low estuary]

Loa brute force

[wispy aurora]

Brute force is all I can hope for

[young hawk]

okay so i accidentally pulled her on a random pull but im f2p so currently i only have 4/4 dkey hofi, vita, sparkle, helia, coralie and thelema (all 4/4) are any good with her

im also kinda new ive logged in for 90 days (most just being random daily reward collections)

[rugged compass]

Vita sparkle work

[haughty elbow]

only if u have her weapon

[rugged compass]

Also kiana (badum) doesnt work without her wep as a dps like most valks

Yeah okay i type slow

[dry python]

Smh bref

[wild forum]

worth raising Coralie if I have badum?

[ancient needle]

If Badum is your only P2 valk then yes, you need supps

[wild forum]

yeah its my only other currently, I get Helia as third char on monday

so I can run badum + helia + carolie until I get for example 8.2 character?

and then throw carolie as support in second group?

ok I got her wep to 45 and monday she is S rank as well

I upgraded her weapon and I get her stigmata next

[ancient needle]

Helia is quite useless on this team, run RC/TA instead

RC is a bit better, but you can't track her buff duration

While TA's buff is passive and doesn't expire

[wild forum]

sorry the glossary thing didnt help me, who did you mean?

[ancient needle]

Reverist Calico/Terminal Aide 0017

[wild forum]

ok then I did find them but was confused as hek

they buff enough to make up not having a ring person in the team?

considering the 2385795 buffs they get just having one sitting in at level 1 even

[dry python]

Not like helia is doing anything for the team

[wild forum]

just existing gives the other massives buffs no ?

[ancient needle]

1. Helia won't proc the leader skill cuz no Heavenly Shift/Omniscient Star
2. Helia's buffs are mostly for Lightning

[dry python]

Like what lol

[wild forum]

yeah no all good I didnt see shes not in their team

okay yeah then it makes sense shes garboage

[ancient needle]

If Badum was Lightning then Helia would definitely be the pick

[wispy aurora]

Im cooked

[ancient needle]

Looks like a hella low score tbh, lemme try

Is the gear maxed?

[wispy aurora]

Hell naw

[ancient needle]

Ah

[wispy aurora]

Vita 35 stigmas and 50 wep?

sparkle is maxed

Badum - 65 wep and 35 stig or 50?

[ancient needle]

Lemme try with max gear ig
I'll also be using Songque instead of Sparkle

The diff between them shouldn't be big

[haughty elbow]

it should be
sparkle is type down

[ancient needle]

You do get more Badum ults tho, I feel like that should compensate

[haughty elbow]

but songque is already naturally better than sparkle

the type down just makes the gap bigger

its not like badum is img

[ancient needle]

We're talking without fish skips
Or is JDS still better

[haughty elbow]

definitely better even without

[ancient needle]

[haughty elbow]

for this cycle

for other cycles its about even

[wild forum]

does TA need full build to work properly in the HS team?

[shadow gyro]

if you're a beginner then you can look for the beginner faq in this server (you can find it with the search function) and use the gear that it suggests

[wispy aurora]

So how did it got for you?

[ancient needle]

Got 615 with a slack run

[wild forum]

ty

[ancient needle]

(that's probs not enough to retain)

[haughty elbow]

i would do a mald run but im not in rl

[wispy aurora]

so HoFi trio only way, huh...

[ancient needle]

Not really, RS is 700+

Vita DPS is like 690 iirc

Thele's a bit lower than that

[wispy aurora]

No RS

[wispy aurora]

Vita + ?? for supp?

[ancient needle]

HoFi Coralie, non-negotiable

[wispy aurora]

so thats a no for me

[haughty elbow]

so badum should be higher then

[ancient needle]

No Phys +50% to cheese the score here

[haughty elbow]

theres plenty of rat tech and not enough rat poison

[ancient needle]

I mean, ofc it's hella improvable with fish skips, but I doubt that you can 690

[rigid spade]

Is Shigure Kira worth leveling up?

[frozen crypt]

Its fine to level any valk you actually use up to 50, its dirt cheap up to that point

Beyond that is where you should consider being more conservative with resources

[rigid spade]

Okay, so i can invest into her, calico reverist, and then pray there's an ice dps somewhere?

[naive pivot]

well any new ice DPS isn't going to use those 2

[jolly pulsar]

[shadow gyro]

are you doing that because you want an ice dps?
you can use pardo as your ice dps for early game

[shadow gyro]

yup

[glossy hemlock]

what can i use my 20 green balls for

[twilit shoal]

yall im returning but how do i use these 😭 idk if im blind or stupid

[twilit shoal]

the ones from battle pass?

you can use them in BP shops to get weapons, battlesuits or stigmata afaik

i prefer saving them for units but also the weapons and stigmata are pretty nice...

[glossy hemlock]

ik, what gear tho

[shadow gyro]

are you f2p?
what valks with gear do you have
do you already have 7 thunders

[glossy hemlock]

f2p, i have 7t, 0/4 vq, no misteln, 4/4 horb hotr

or do i wait for 8.2

[shadow gyro]

well the green balls won't give you anything for 8.2 and 8.2 ||is using a new bp system with a new bp ball||
maybe you can get 2 pc Aladdin, but im not too knowledgeable for anything beyond this

[glossy hemlock]

what is ala used for other than on vq

[shadow gyro]

hotr is 4/4 yes?

i heard it can be used as a supportive set for a bleed team?, but ur only other option is lv and i suppose you already have her team and stuff

considering that in your case you don't really need anything else from the shop

[glossy hemlock]

if im getting 2p ala which 2 should i get?

tb?

[wispy aurora]

what G3 or G4 should I prioritise?

[shadow gyro]

unfortunately that's going out of my scope of knowledge
best bet that i can think of is seeing vq guide or if there's an online guide about this stigmata to get an idea

[glossy hemlock]

ok ty for the help anyways

[shadow gyro]

for what purpose? can you give some more context?

[twilit shoal]

i wanna use these before they expire but still havent found hwere..

[wispy aurora]

Just doing my Mirages and not sure which one has more value

[shadow gyro]

floor 6 is the best for ether fuel farming if using tsp

[wispy aurora]

Which color?

[shadow gyro]

any if youre not farming anything

[shadow gyro]

you go to supply and look for carnival supply, the valks one, there you can use them

[spiral badge]

what kind of purpose do you have in mind? Keep in mind

• bleed vill-v is coming up soon
• we are still waiting for ||more next patch valk news who is bleed. It's unlikley but it's possible there might be a niche use there||

Do you already have 7T?

If you use aladdin set as a support, what off rate stigs do you have for each slot?

If you must pick now and have no further context then you may most consider M and B since the support effects are there.

Please do review these details on your own too.

[twilit shoal]

i couldnt find where

my supply doesnt show it or im GENUINELY blind

[ancient needle]

Ah, the banner's gone alr

[twilit shoal]

OH...

[wispy aurora]

I do intent to get some stigmas which do use G3/4s but not sure which ones

[shadow gyro]

that will depend on what valks wants a stigmata
you can check the mirage pin first

[hazy lotus]

Which is a better too character, Hofi or coralie

Rite of oblivion

[naive pivot]

so what actually is the best sena team these days, i thought i heard it was double kiana now but that seems to have AR issues on the first rotation and i still see some people using hofi vita

[ancient needle]

It could be smth like Badum Vita vs SD and HoFi Vita vs non-SD

HoFi Vita scored better for me on this boss

[naive pivot]

[ancient needle]

Though I didn't try HoFi Badum to be completely fair

[naive pivot]

speaking of for this boss, what are us non trio users going

[ancient needle]

RS, HoO DPS

Vita DPS, Thele DPS

[naive pivot]

so vita gaming it is?

how's badum brute force

[haughty elbow]

too hard for generic rl player

go hoo

[naive pivot]

hoo gear where

[haughty elbow]

do ur best

[wild bolt]

Assuming I should pick the character card option - who should I pick?

omg wait i see the pinned message 🤦‍♂️

[amber lintel]

So I got silverwing from dorm so do I get azure twice?? I also have 310 of the crystal spending event currency

[autumn oxide]

rs is crazy

my vita outscored my rs

oh but given, my vita's s2 and my rs is running vita not sparkle

[lime talon]

i think this isn't just killing enemy waves, what am i actually supposed to do

[haughty elbow]

read the left

[lime talon]

yea how do i do that 💀

nvm somehow did it

[west gale]

Can’t tell if this is the right channel but are there alternatives for the SD Kiana? I came back after Sparkle and missed Vita

[haughty elbow]

dudu songque

[humble shadow]

!faq banner

😭

[west gale]

Yeah about that…
I stopped playing before part 2

[haughty elbow]

dudu coralie

[west gale]

Ohhhh ty

[harsh forge]

How is the ADV Supply?

[haughty elbow]

scam

[wispy aurora]

100 Pull Guarantee = No bueno

[harsh forge]

oh ok cool

Has there or will there be a stream for hi3 btw? Notice that 3/28 is when FWS leaves and the other banners. Or is there any news of what is coming next patch?

[haughty elbow]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins

[spiral badge]

please ask about story questions in #📚honkai-lore and not here

that goes for this too

please check the pins on the policy of story here

[wispy aurora]

I did spoiler it just in case to be safe

[spiral badge]

i understand but even that isn't tolerated enough here

[wispy aurora]

damn thats rough

[spiral badge]

it's prob best if you delete it

we try to be mindful of how sensitive people can be about spoilers and well even a simple image can give some info of what character to expect in the story later if i have to be blunt

[wispy aurora]

Makes sense

[spiral badge]

i understand the game isn't the best about spoilers too (lol the whole valk menu) but that's the fault of the game and not on us

[wispy aurora]

Valk menu is wild for spoilers but you cant help that one

[spiral badge]

i suppose there's a bit of a gray line since you asked for how much longer left in the story and that can relate to crystal/time rate but

maybe a better way to ask is after you're done with some act or chapter

[wispy aurora]

Thats fair and understandable

[spiral badge]

my pin does go into considerations about this

i would just be parroting off of it

you're not giving me enough information either

i guess you already own horb but what rank is she? should i assume s0?

keep in mind you'll want to hold on to the elf boxes for now until we ge the free elf box later if you haven't unlocked the elf yet

[wispy aurora]

s0 Horb

[spiral badge]

you also don't need to spoiler that actually. While it does concern next patch stuff and it's better to be more safe than sorry, the kinda of things we're concerned about are actual new content

you don't have to delete it either. Now anyone backreading that bit will just think i'm crazy lol

[wispy aurora]

Ooops

Ah well

[spiral badge]

or wouldn't be able to follow to help pitch in their own thoughts

do you own any gacha astral ops already? and any niche meta part 1 teams that are well built?

[wispy aurora]

HORB is S0 but as we get the free elf and with these I should be able to make is 3 star

[raw wraith]

Help

[spiral badge]

the main idea of kiana elf is that she covers

• p1 situations broadly, but p1 overall is now niche
• p2 as a sidegrade over dreamseeker. Mainly for boosting fire and lightning elemental damage in outburst if you don't need to rush into outburst right away
  • DS has higher starting ARI so she can let you get into outburst sooner asap if you need to, and has slightly more damage outside of outburst

i already covered horb s2 in the guide already. Overall she's niche but also more exclusive/difficult to get. We have no idea what to expect of her in the future either, and i already covered speculations in that pin too.

[wispy aurora]

So S2 horb

[spiral badge]

up to you to decide

[wispy aurora]

Seems like free ranks for characters are a wiser decision

[spiral badge]

horb has less forseeable uses but possibly more difficult to get

3* kiana has more broader uses but can possibly be obtained from future spending events

it's a tradeoff overall. I don't have any strong opinions either way

just make sure you're done with rolls and have thought things through on both sides

[wispy aurora]

Im at 480 of the spending currency rn

so I can get all 6

But only need 5 for S2

[spiral badge]

you don't need all 6

yeah

so the rest can go to elf box

unless you want to consider anything else

[wispy aurora]

Seems like Horb x5 and rest of elf seems best

[spiral badge]

you don't have to decide right now

but i don't have any further arguments or considerations

you can hold out a bit longer in case more news from CN surfaces

but also don't hold out to the point where you forget about it

i know one person who completely forgot and let alot of potent annulons just completely expire

anyway i need to go now sorry

[wispy aurora]

Appreciate your help

[spiral badge]

i'm not trying to ignore you but please just state your problem directly instead of making us ask you for it next time. Maybe i would've been able to address your question in time if you had done so

hopefully in the future i can help you though

maybe it's just unfortunate timing and something came up for you just as you were about to ask

[sweet flax]

surely herrscher trio doesnt score this low? (I have an ungeared hoo, both have full gear + kiaelf)

[runic canopy]

ungeared HoO

i cri

anw thats high score considering ur HoO is ungeared

[sweet flax]

ye

[runic canopy]

no Kiana ELF 3* or more?

[sweet flax]

no kiaelf in general

gonna 3* her next patch tho

[runic canopy]

oh ur Bronya isnt 4/4 too, thats high score tbh

[sweet flax]

ye, I think if I had a tiny bit more damage I can get a 714, since the boss is on last hp bar during end of SO at that score

[wispy aurora]

still better than my +514 no trio

I know for a fact im going back to A3

[sweet flax]

tbh I dont know if its cuz eu skill issue, but even dudu is getting 550

[wispy aurora]

No dudu or trio

[maiden garden]

just curious how long does it usually take to reach 16.8k crystals?

[sweet flax]

back then, a patch

[wispy aurora]

depends on how many sources you have like story ect

[sweet flax]

would be similar going forward

[tough raven]

am i spending these now?

[sweet flax]

depends on what you want, double check with the spending event pin before making a decision

though in most cases you'd prefer getting horb for er crystals unless you want elf boxes

[flint bone]

the sins of the past have been corrected

[sweet flax]

#📿gacha-salt🧂

otherwise this chat would be clogged with gacha pulls

[flint bone]

the reason i put it here was because i fixed the mistake of beginner me

aka not getting the weapon

but i get what you mean

[dry python]

i see ama

[tough raven]

lmao reading the pin makes it sound like nothing is useful since we get elf next patch and horb isnt worth building

[dry python]

well yeah

[sweet flax]

ye, horb is severely lacking in the weathers + teams deperatment

but its 620 er crystals

[tough raven]

ahhh true

so just pick her ong ?

[sweet flax]

spending event shops arent that great, its just a convenience while pulling

[sweet flax]

its up to you, though try to avoid doing what other people do and cope about a "horb dkey" as an excuse to pick her
if you want her, just tell yourself that

[dry python]

i hope horb never gets a dkey

please

[sweet flax]

I hope she does

[dry python]

no more stellar keys

[sweet flax]

more stellar keys

[dry python]

horb is a dogshit valk anyway let her stay dead

[sweet flax]

seele will have her glorious return

[dry python]

!faq cay

[small willow]

Herrscher of Rebirth (HoRb)

Stop right there, Captain!

It is currently not recommended to invest in HoRb despite her being the backbone of Part 1 physical teams, and it is unlikely that it will be feasible to invest into her in the future. Please see Princess Cayfu's summary [here](#👶beginner-help message).

[lyric anvil]

[bronze bronze]

since I feel like a beginner after not playing for a year and coming back I see many things with meta, bosses etc. im trying to get back to grinding mostly for abyss just until RL me good so which one should I max first? I will get the weapon when its out for it

[sweet flax]

I hope one day that pin gets updated shamefully

[dry python]

it won't

[sweet flax]

da wei plz

[dry python]

because even if the dkey comes we still won't recommend people to pull her

[sweet flax]

as if she'll have a banner anymore

either way I dont think they're gonna give another p1 valk away again for a while

[wispy aurora]

Do we try a 1 pull wonder for HoFi?

[sweet flax]

never

either commit 28k crystals or dont

[low kestrel]

tell me what is the chance of i get her

[wispy aurora]

1%

[low kestrel]

1?????

😭

[wispy aurora]

Its 100 pulls to Guarantee

which mean 1%

[quick birch]

dont expect to get her before pity on an ADV

[void axle]

35.5k xtal

[wispy aurora]

2800 x 10 = 28k

[sweet flax]

that's not how it works

[wispy aurora]

Its a 1% drop chance

[sweet flax]

it is, but not because there's 100 pulls

its 28k crystals

or 0%

[void axle]

baadum how many percentage?

[wispy aurora]

28,000 for Character
16,800 for Weapon and stigma

[sweet flax]

you can see it ingame

click on the banner and scroll down to drop rates

[void axle]

how many percen? i lazy to browsing

[wispy aurora]

This ones for HoFi

[void axle]

go for it, just 0.5% worse than baa dum

[tough raven]

took me 85 pulls to hit bro have fun 💀

[runic canopy]

Cay

[quick birch]

thats not how this works 0.5 is a lot

[low kestrel]

i will... idk...

[sweet flax]

dont give advice if you have no idea how banners work please

[quick birch]

anyway give the faq ADV a read so that you are aware what an ADV is

[quick birch]

this one

[runic canopy]

Coralie

[haughty elbow]

0.5% less is 33% worse

[sweet flax]

33% worse and 100 pity instead of 90

[bronze bronze]

aight

[tough raven]

am i ever pulling for an astralop

[sweet flax]

are you in nirvana?

[haughty elbow]

no

[tough raven]

aight

[void axle]

0.5% less chance = multiplied + 50%, the chance were so 💀

[sweet flax]

ye definitely not

[wild forum]

can I recycle those into fuel at I and II? I only keep III ones for exchange?

[void axle]

trust your luck

[low kestrel]

chat should i go for it?

[void axle]

just ignored the math stats

[quick birch]

it really depends on you meta wise this isnt worth in the slightest

pls spoiler that

and also dont advice people for things that are concidered not worth without more backround about how much they care about meta

people could lurk and actually think kiana is worth it

[void axle]

i mean, next patch were so good valk too

[void axle]

but kiana, is the icon of hi3rd

[quick birch]

she is still not worth it. especially if you cant guarantee her +weapon

[low kestrel]

i alr have her weapon

and stigamatas

[quick birch]

Stigamatas are craftable so this does not mean that much. Meta wise its not reccomended to get her, if its for waifu resons go for it. You just have to be aware of the consequencens that could face you like skipping another valk and so on

[tough raven]

he pulled out the waifu card

100% worth when you look at it from that pov

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[void axle]

its up to you. go gamble ur luck

[lucid stump]

is HoFi adv supply worth 😨

i don't have her

[spiral badge]

when exactly did @low kestrel said this? did i miss it?

[void axle]

u've been bless by dawei

[lucid stump]

oops sorry guys i didnt see this

[spiral badge]

it's fine to say up to you. But don't say to go gamble. Let them decide for themselves.

Please also actually edit your earlier mention of the upcoming new valk. People do backread here. Check pins for spoiler policy

[deft orbit]

it put me in a wierd spot lol, last time i dropped 1 multi on hofi banner and got tthe character card, but i basically have no teams for p2 besides like trio1-ar and quantum

[spiral badge]

!faq wrongadvice

[small willow]

Not Giving Advice is better than Wrong Advice!

Hi Captain! Sorry to cut you off...

Ai-chan recommends that you leave the advising to more experienced captains, but we appreciate your enthusiasm.

If you aren't sure if the advice you want to give is correct, please wait for others in the channel to answer instead. You wouldn't want to be responsible for someone making a huge mistake!

[low kestrel]

hii sairaan

[dry python]

arky

[deft orbit]

i forgot cay talks here

[dry python]

wtf

[tough raven]

literally to the msg i replied to 😂

[spiral badge]

did you have a follow up question about this? Otherwise this really should go in #📿gacha-salt🧂. Otherwise some people may read this thinking it's ok to roll adv when it's actually heavily not recommended

[deft orbit]

oh sorry

[spiral badge]

mango said it as a possibility. Vaulurto never said they were doing it because they saw kiana as waifu.

[deft orbit]

anyway good night

[tough raven]

ah, either way i was making the jk that mango pulled out the card

[spiral badge]

ok well try not to let jokes get out of hand esp when they could potentially lead to not so recommended advice unless there's enough confirmation and information given.

[tough raven]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-dow-gif-24856862

[spiral badge]

This is a help channel and consequences of resource investment can be quite costly in this game

it takes a long time to regain the 28k crystals you guys are basically encouraging to dump

[tough raven]

if people couldnt tell it was a jk maybe they deserve to fk up their pulls

[spiral badge]

some people here straight up do not speak english as their primary language

so yes sarcasm can be quite lost there

[void axle]

what ive seen and i assume u spend some money on this game(aka might be a whale ) 3795 so many pull

[low kestrel]

i'm poor, i not expend any money in this game

[spiral badge]

@low kestrel anyway hello. What questions do you have?

I'm not sure why you already have hofi weapon (dkey? or old weapon?) but keep in mind what the faq said about adv banners

rates are low and pity does not carry over. Expect to go the full 100 if you want to do this.

Do you have meta questions about hofi?

[low kestrel]

hofi will back any day? we have any information? i rlly wanted her

[spiral badge]

this is why we try to keep assumptions to a minimum here

[void axle]

so that might be the answer, just follow the meta wise

[void axle]

kiana need your love

[spiral badge]

the only future information we have is in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins.

I don't think i've heard of any upcoming reruns so far

but she's quite old at this point and maybe you can expect her to become more available some other way in the future.

Can you explain to me why you really want her? From what i know about you, you do care about abyss performance and the meta, but pulling hofi would not be recommended meta wise

[void axle]

i expect hofi will be free(as a login claimable valk) soon

[spiral badge]

this 28k crystal cost will basically cause you to not be able to reliably pull the next new valk which will prob be more important to get than hofi at this point

[void axle]

i might be wrong, vill v were bp pass next

[spiral badge]

yeah let's try to keep speculations to a minimum. I already mentioned the possibility so we can leave it at that

rather than saying you think, it's prob better to substantiate it. Login claimable valk seems unlikely but every year they do seem to give out a free herrscher. Of course there are other candidates too.

[spiral badge]

also maybe keep these comments more to #🎮honkai-chat . It can still mildly encourage someone but without any logic in doing so

we kinda value providing information here and letting the person decide for themselves

[low kestrel]

ah i just like kiana, but not just that i rlly like the gameplay of hofi, is one of the best gameplays in my opnion, and she looks usable no? i see some people using her so i assume can use her some times, have fun and still in the meta of the game

[void axle]

u gonna rarely use it tho, so many replacable valk

[void axle]

just enjoy baa dum man, maybe next time

[spiral badge]

in this current abyss she's a top option, yes.

but meta wise keep in mind of how popular she was back in the day. It's common for people to have her fully geared, ranked, and her teammates ranked at this point. So it's uphill to catch up on.

You should look up what her ranks do as well. It's mainly personal damage. At this point hofi can also be used as domain resonance support (for world star leaders) but her ranks will not help with that.

Furthermore you wouldn't really expect to use her too often strongly in the future. You can try checking the pins in #💁gameplay-help for the abyss schedule.

you said you have her weapon earlier. Which weapon is it?

How about her teammates? do you have HoO and HoTr well geared already? And maybe ranked?

keep in mind you can always appreciate hofi in the tactics class menu too without owning her.

But if you understand all this and still really want her, and do not mind missing out on the upcoming valk, then it's up to you

[low kestrel]

so... i'm thinking in use her with support with another teams, because i don't jave HoO geared and i don't have hotr
Also, i have the new weapon and stigmatas of her (hofi)

[spiral badge]

hey can i please ask you to edit this to spoiler tag or remove it?

[void axle]

man everyone already know

[spiral badge]

doesn't sound like you'll make good use of her then. When picking up a new valk (again this is meta wise) you'll want to make sure you can make good use of multiple (ideally all) of her roles

HoFi is notable for

• main dps (with hotr and hoo)
• support for HoO main dps
• support for world star dps

[mortal carbon]

its a server rule, and no not everyone knows already

[spiral badge]

this is an official server. You can read the pins

i'm not a mod btw. I'm just a prof to kindly remind you of the rules so you don't get bonked

[void axle]

NA player so scarry

[spiral badge]

i don't think me being NA has anything to do with it lol

sorry if i sound harsh but it's really in your best interest

people do backread. I'm trying to cover your butt here

[autumn oxide]

these yellow named ppl so scary

[void axle]

their all na

[low kestrel]

@spiral badgesairaan can i talk a little with u in dm?

[autumn oxide]

they’re*

[mortal carbon]

water waaaah hihi

[autumn oxide]

lunaaaaaa

[mortal carbon]

come in here after a while and the first thing you do is booli me

[spiral badge]

it's better if we discuss here so other helpers can pitch in or i can access the faq and pins here.

but if you really have to, then sure

[autumn oxide]

hows abis

[void axle]

they have 5mil gold card

[low kestrel]

@mortal carbonhey luna why not say hi to me too? 😔

[mortal carbon]

tbh NA has nothing to do with it, its literally the first rule in the server rule list

[autumn oxide]

whelraan

not beating the allegations saiwhel

[spiral badge]

anyway i'm going to delete this. At least try to avoid it in the future. We know the game is terrible with spoilers but that's a fault on the game and not something for us to extend upon.

[mortal carbon]

i didnt want to back reply just to say hi but hihi~

[autumn oxide]

loona

hows abis

its been 8hrs since its open surely ure t1 myriad by now

[mortal carbon]

im steady in low RL, lifes been beyond crazy busy so i dont have the mental energy to mald for the last like quarter of a year

[autumn oxide]

not t1 myriad fake luna

[mortal carbon]

but im still in RL

[solar drum]

how do you get dorm supply cards to appear more frequently in armada tab

[mortal carbon]

you gotta be confusing me with a different luna, im no myriad material

[autumn oxide]

no ure the only one ik

[autumn oxide]

get a more active armada afaik

at the end of the day its purely rng tho; even if the card isnt an option u still hv a small chance of getting it

[mortal carbon]

isnt it random? i guess a bigger/more active armada would have more chances but theres no rng manipulation to be done

[autumn oxide]

ive done dailies at 4am on reset and card wasnt an option but still got card

[mortal carbon]

only one for u

[autumn oxide]

more active armadas get the choice (and im assuming that means higher % of getting it) but at the end of the day its all rng

[solar drum]

ofc more activity

[autumn oxide]

fLuSh

[odd plume]

make a guild full of your alt and all of them give up on the card

[solar drum]

ofc its totally random

[autumn oxide]

even then its still rng lmao

if u dont select card theres still chance u get im pretty sure

[solar drum]

sounds depressing to make a guild with three accounts

[autumn oxide]

just join a popular one

[solar drum]

and its not even guaranteed to get the card

[autumn oxide]

for na can try smth like sols or smth

[mortal carbon]

i think thats more of the default selection each time is all of them

[autumn oxide]

or lumina if ure omega whel

[solar drum]

i have alts in pretty active guilds but none seem to show

[autumn oxide]

minimum $1000 topup per patch req

[mortal carbon]

wait im dumb, it just increases the chance i think

[autumn oxide]

thats why im in it ez

[autumn oxide]

ur activity matters too

and how much commissions u do

[lilac reef]

is that a joke?

[autumn oxide]

ofc not theres a reason why im in it and awa isnt

[solar drum]

i do dailies on all my accounts

[autumn oxide]

poor f2p like him cant afford to be in lumina unlike me

[lilac reef]

LMAO

[haughty elbow]

solstice > lumina

[autumn oxide]

ure just too poor for us

KEKPoint

[dry python]

wottle admits to being a whel not clickbait

[jolly pulsar]

I’m f2p

[raw wraith]

this team ok right ?

[runic canopy]

Generally yes

[amber temple]

Who should I use as my main team

The ones at lvl 80 are the valks I've been using

Rest of my roster

[sweet flax]

are both sparkle and lantern geared?

if so you could do sparkle lantern coralie

or teri lantern sparkle | sparkle lantern teri

[amber temple]

This is the team I've been running I'm trying to forge better equipment but it takes forever for me to get mats

Especially the prism ones

[sweet flax]

oh you shouldnt be taking the forge weapons past lvl 35

also those valks are heavily reliant on their weapons to function properly

[amber temple]

Not even the ones the game recommends?

[sweet flax]

ingame recommendations are never updated and not accurate at times

[amber temple]

I'm used to the other hoyo gachas characters working well with non sig weapons decently enough

[sweet flax]

ye which is why we tend to mention throwing out all knowledge from those games

[haughty elbow]

in this game ur competing against other players

[amber temple]

Ah

[sweet flax]

unfortunately, in hi3 especially now, character kits and utility are locked behind the weapon

[haughty elbow]

so missing gear is harsh

[amber temple]

Oh that sucks

[sweet flax]

you can get away with it on some supports, but for the most part its a huge blow

[amber temple]

At least there isn't a 50/50 to loose

[sweet flax]

ye, that's the only downside, you need to pull valk + weapon

[amber temple]

Have to force people to spend somehow

[sweet flax]

not necessarily

more established accounts actually prefer skipping some valks

making rolling for future ones more easier

[amber temple]

Oh interesting

[sweet flax]

and some valks have no value to rolling them on release

with replacements/alternatives being available at a later time

[amber temple]

Would you say the ones I have gotten are decent?

[sweet flax]

you have gotten arguebly the 3 easiest valks to skip

[amber temple]

I've been playing off and on for a year so I don't know much

[amber temple]

Oh

[sweet flax]

quantum in this game is very notorious for being niche

[haughty elbow]

thats not arguable

they are the easiest 3

[amber temple]

Sparkle is why I came back to play the game

[sweet flax]

sparkle is fine, she's good now but not when she released

since she has heavenly shift tag

honestly this is gonna be a bit controversial but you could argue a case for trying to pull sparkle weapon when it comes in 2 weeks iirc

[amber temple]

Ooo it's coming back already?

[sweet flax]

ye

[amber temple]

Didn't she just rerun?

[sweet flax]

technically it would be 8 weeks since her last banner when she reruns

hoyo in the end decides how to rerun valks

[amber temple]

I'm so used to the other hoyo games taking forever to rerun characters

[haughty elbow]

theres not many chars to rerun in this game

because 90% of the cast is free

[sweet flax]

cough

[haughty elbow]

so a lot of the times u see the same chars rerun

[amber temple]

Interesting

[amber temple]

Yeah I'm still just surprised

[sweet flax]

anyways

a nice way to get your account to catch up would be to save for a future valk + her weapon, but if you really want to, you could go for sparkle weapon

[amber temple]

Should I try to get the current Kiana then? I'm at 40 pulls left till guarantee

[sweet flax]

how many crystals do you have

[amber temple]

And 10 on the weapon

[amber temple]

1

[sweet flax]

save those crystals

imo you should try for the valk next patch instead, and you can use sparkle to support her

[amber temple]

Ok who's that gonna be?

[sweet flax]

more details in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins
||its sushang||

[amber temple]

Ah ok

[surreal garden]

when are we getting the magical girl skins event?

[sweet flax]

the free outfits? they should be available rn otherwise around 10-12 server time

[amber temple]

I am at captain lvl 80 but I do believe that I definitely should wait on the breakthrough lvl thingy till my account is better?

[surreal garden]

i dont see them in the event page, im on EU

i thought it was 21 march

[sweet flax]

oof, honestly debatable, but ye holding off on breakthrough would be the wiser choice for now
in the mean time, stop investing into teri since you wont have use for her compared to other charas, and save your pulls till next patch favorably

[sweet flax]

read the second part of my message wait till 10-12 server time

usually events update around that time

[surreal garden]

alright then, im just saying that i was confused because someone told me it released in 21st and its 22nd but ill give it time

[sweet flax]

wait, it is the 22nd

[surreal garden]

yeah its saturday

[amber temple]

And I run a sparkle Lantern and hammer girl team correct?

For the time being

[sweet flax]

yep, lantern can support sparkle and coralie has the roo ring so she can support every ring, though she would be replaced first when a better alternative is owned

[surreal garden]

maybe its not on eu or idk but ill wait and see

[sweet flax]

in quantum content, you could use teri over coralie but since she's weaponless its not gonna be as impactful

[amber temple]

And who should be in the first slot?

[sweet flax]

the dps, so in your case sparkle

[haughty elbow]

[sweet flax]

tbh im not too sure I havent logged on in a bit, I'll let you know if I find out anything in the meantime

[surreal garden]

thank you

[amber temple]

Thanks for your help I need to go to sleep cause it's past 3am for me good night

[surreal garden]

gn

[sweet flax]

do consider what we talked about, I assumed you're more of a casual player so I tried to be as less lenient as possible with the advice

[sweet flax]

they could probs retain rl in masters but not a3 in exalted, same crystal count so it seemed like the better option than losing crystals from being in a2

[haughty elbow]

i dont see a world where they can do masters rl but choke a3

its not like masters doesnt have disturbance

[raw hamlet]

Hey sorry, what is this and how do i use this energy?

[sweet flax]

hence why I said it is debatable, when they come back ill ask them about the disturbance level in masters

[edgy pasture]

Hi guys I need help , I'm a newbie ,I joined the day before yesterday and I got thelema ,but I can't seem to use her in the open world first samsara ,do you guys know how to fix that?

[sweet flax]

either way, they're gonna breakthrough 100% next patch since they'll have an s rank with weapon to properly clear content

[sweet flax]

p2 units cant be used in p1 content

more specifically story and expedition stages

[edgy pasture]

p2?p1?

[surreal garden]

you use it to convert materials into asterite

for +100%

[edgy pasture]

Yeah I can't use her in expedition stages too

[sweet flax]

part 2 units, units with an astral ring, all units from v7.3 onwards
and part 1 units, all units before 7.3

[raw hamlet]

how did you open that menu?

[sweet flax]

go to your inventory (equipment) > materials and click the bag with the lightning symbol on the bottom right

[surreal garden]

the little pouch with electric mark down in the right

[edgy pasture]

Can you recommend some good A rank or S rank Valkyries to use in the open world then?

[sweet flax]

open world doesnt give you trial valks?

[raw hamlet]

Thank you

[surreal garden]

then you choose if you want to convert to coins or to asterite

[sweet flax]

ah wait that was apho, one sec

[surreal garden]

but you only use it with asterite

[surreal garden]

the energy

[sweet flax]

@edgy pasture use this as a basis, dont build everything here these are just sample teams

[edgy pasture]

K thanks

[rotund pasture]

Where are damaos friends? (Luna event, first map) im missing one

[north cave]

probably missing ling

[rotund pasture]

Where is she?

[north cave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpDZydlb1mY

[rotund pasture]

Ty

[rigid spade]

What are these and which one do I choose?

[quick birch]

you will get all of them in the next few weeks anyway

[surreal garden]

still nothing

[ebon crescent]

idk if this is the right channel to ask such question, but does anyone know at what point in-game the song "Slate Blue Lake" plays?

[sweet flax]

iirc it was either chapter 6 or 7 in p2, not too sure

[rigid spade]

What should I do after reaching lvl 40? I heard that was an important milestone.

[frozen crypt]

Not really? 50 is a lot more important. Level 40 is where you unlock open world though, I guess you need to consider unlocking adventure tasks asap.

Lvl 50 is elysian realm + you unlock the other open worlds and enter the stage where you spam the absolute shite out of adventure tasks

[surreal garden]

lvl 50 is pri arm unlock too i think

friend list and scroll all the way down

[rigid spade]

Is hersscher of human ego good to use? I decided to get the bonus track for the level up thing.

Oh, so she's actually a usable unit?

She's probably the first unit i asked about that has somewhat of a use case so i think i'll use her as my "main" for now.

Who can i pair her with?

Yeah I don't have any of those yet sadly

[vale raptor]

thelema and vita

[rigid spade]

I don't have any premium supports sadly, i only started a few days ago

[quick birch]

Only with her dkey and its questionable if that still is worth it once it comes back

For beginnners basically anything works but once you get your first p2 S rank it will most certainly replace her

Shes fine its just that others are better but she works. Shes still best for tank. We also still dont know how good she is for the ??? AR type. Also they currently cant obtain the dkey and its questionable if the Dkey is worth once it returns

[narrow heron]

Which ones should I pick

[quick birch]

im certain that SSS thele demolishes HoV without HoHE

They all 0sec cleared its just about who finished the run first

[junior hound]

Hello, i should forge helia or TA wep in the foundry for the starters manual mission?

[sharp aurora]

is HoFi with new DK useful for anyone beside Vita and Trio Teams?

[quick birch]

She's nice for WS teams

[ancient needle]

Doesn't matter much really, do it for whoever you use more

Keep in mind that TA is 100% passive in ele teams

[autumn oxide]

na player ok lemme try to snipe ur score

[junior hound]

I went for helia because i have SS Coralie

Astral ring valks seems good

[autumn oxide]

oh ew its that stupid kiana boss ok im not sniping shit

sa is unbruteforcable stupid ass boss

[shadow gyro]

note that none of those 2 have their signature weapon in the foundry if you mean that you want to craft them a weapon to use
if you craft one for them then leave it at level 35 since you won't use these characters a lot in the end game and leveling further would waste resources that you would want

[junior hound]

I only level non-signture weps to 35 anyways

Even on my old acc

[slim blaze]

Git gud

[autumn oxide]

"git gud"
u mean get kia?

[slim blaze]

You cant just trio your way thru everything

[slim blaze]

Yes git gud

[autumn oxide]

bro i dont even hv trio

[slim blaze]

Luck is a part of skill

[autumn oxide]

that sss sa boss cant be bruteforced by any other sd valks rn its so cringe

that sss sa boss cant be bruteforced by any other valk*

for a decent 47.7 score and above

[cedar turtle]

Does anyone know what would be a good stigma set for Herrscher of Human Ego? I can't get her specialized set at the moment.

[amber temple]

I'm not sure if I know what that is but I can check

[sweet flax]

that would be appreciated

[raw hamlet]

Advice on getting JDS's equipment if i got her from discounted 10 pull

[sweet flax]

do you own her dkey?

[sweet flax]

jds isnt on any discounted pulls?

and even if she is on one, you wouldnt get her gear

[raw hamlet]

the special valk start supply

[sweet flax]

starter supply?

no dont pull on starter supply

[raw hamlet]

yeah, i did the 30 percent off 10 pull for fun

[sweet flax]

[raw hamlet]

do i pull weapon now that i got her

[sweet flax]

no

you'd use her as a support in loa anyways and she doesnt need her weapon for that

just craft her stigmata set at a later time

[raw hamlet]

okay thanks

[sweet flax]

do you have any crystals saved up?

[raw hamlet]

like 15k ish

but i dont mind topping up

[sweet flax]

ok not a bad start, lets hold off on spending for now, see how many crystals you can get by end of badum banner, most likely you'd save till next patch anyways

did you already do the discounted 10 pull on badum banner?

[raw hamlet]

yeah i got badum and her weapon already

[sweet flax]

perfect

jds is an amazing support for her

[raw hamlet]

thanks, got it ❤️

[sweet flax]

[amber temple]

Is masters like memorial arena or the 10 floor one?

[sweet flax]

Q-manifold

Masters just means lvl 70-80

At level 81 you go from masters to exalted

[amber temple]

This?

[rotund pasture]

how do i get dreemseeker chips?

[spiral badge]

only ranking up to SS is available right now. Need to clear chapter 4 of part 2 story for it

[sweet flax]

yes but I was hoping you were in redlotus tbh

[amber temple]

Ah ok yeah I always have issues with the floor 7 boss on this one

Can't destroy the seed thingy fast enough

[sweet flax]

you'd have to record a run tbh, often times you are playing your valks wrong (though in your case, lack of gear is more likely than not the main factor)

[amber temple]

It's probably both

I mainly button mash in games like this and try to do the combos but I probably don't know the most optimal way to play the characters I have

[sweet flax]

that's probably the main culprit

realistically speaking you shouldnt be on lantern and coralie for more than 5 seconds combined per rot

[amber temple]

Yeah I'll try it out with Coralie and try to get her up a little bit

[sweet flax]

do you already own her weapon?

since its free

[amber temple]

I think my biggest issue is that lantern has that green crossbow thing

[sweet flax]

shouldnt be a big deal since lantern just qtes in, hold atk, ult if available, switch out

[sweet flax]

sure her buffs suck without her weapon, and personal dmg is negligible, but she'll be replaced sooner rather than later

[sweet flax]

you have a fully geared unit, das crazy

[amber temple]

I just followed the recommended stuff

[sweet flax]

jokes aside, investing into coralie is a good idea anyways

see if you can get her to SS sometime soon since that's a really good upgrade

and use lantern as your dps for this abyss, since sparkle deals less damage to img enemies

[amber temple]

I keep getting her on the banner

[sweet flax]

coralie is farmable with asterite

[amber temple]

Oh she is?

[sweet flax]

ye

[amber temple]

I'll probably do that when I get more asterite then

Ok I'll try to get her to 80 and lvl the corresponding skills

[sweet flax]

can get up to 25 per week

[amber temple]

Oh

Which shop?

[sweet flax]

asterite, supply > shop > basic currency > asterite

[storm cobalt]

why is the regular invite event looking juiced as hell ?

the last one looked mid as hell i swear 🤔

[sweet flax]

inv event?

[amber temple]

Ok I'll be back in a bit and report back

[storm cobalt]

regular*

[amber temple]

I actually only needed 4 to get her to SS

[sweet flax]

should try abyss now then

even coralie dps should technically work

[amber temple]

What should I have the stigima refine stats be?

[dry python]

atk

but you shouldn't burn affix mats on coralie of all valks lol

[sweet flax]

with p2, unless its a physical dps you just need atk only

[pliant pulsar]

whats the release date for art book volume 3 english

[dry python]

who can say

[sweet flax]

if you want just rng roll basic affixes to not spend too much

[amber temple]

I hate that this thing restores hp

It has a nilius seed that has 5x health bars

[sweet flax]

ye if you dont kill the seed intime the shell can reform

[amber temple]

Yeah I can't kill it fast enough

[sweet flax]

but im ngl, seeing that you have a 333 combo meter

something is very wrong

who are you using as dps

[amber temple]

Coralie like you said

[sweet flax]

probably not applying buffs properly then, what do you do on sparkle and lantern

[amber temple]

I don't know which is probably my problem then and just me having skill issues

[sweet flax]

:p

on lantern you just wanna qte in, hold atk, ult if available, switch out

on sparkle you want to qte in, weapon skill, ult if available, switch into coralie

[amber temple]

That's what I do with her yeah

[amber temple]

The little yoyo in the middle of the ui correct?

[sweet flax]

yoyo? you mean her weapon icon? then ye there will be a white outline which is the enhanced weapon attack

[amber temple]

This icon

[sweet flax]

yep

if you qte in with sparkle, it will light up the weapon icon

which does this move

[amber temple]

Yeah I do that as much as possible

[sweet flax]

also, dont qte every time it lights up, only qte when your buffs run out

[amber temple]

Could it be because her stigmata isn't at 50?

[sweet flax]

whose?

[amber temple]

Sparkle

[sweet flax]

which one isnt lvl 50

and what level is it

[amber temple]

Two of them they're lvl 45

The first and third ones

[sweet flax]

it shouldnt make that much a difference, its definitely not the reason you arent clearing

[amber temple]

Also the dimension is at 329 which I don't know what that does but might be the issue

[sweet flax]

329 is pretty low

exalted is 460+

[amber temple]

Let my try again and use your tips

[ancient needle]

Dimension (or Disturbance at lvl 81+) shows how tanky the enemies are

[sweet flax]

its fine, you cant always get wins, keep in mind img enemies are always a pain in the ass if you dont have img units anyways

[ancient needle]

It readjusts every cycle based on players' performance

[sweet flax]

try again, see how it goes, if you dont think you can clear just take the L for now

no shame in being unable to clear cringe content

especially with your circumstances

[amber temple]

I really think it's just that it has this skill

[sweet flax]

all imaginary enemies have that

[amber temple]

Cause otherwise I'd be good

[sweet flax]

you have to break its shell to expose the seed, then kill the seed before the shell reforms

[dry python]

Not for that enemy

Just interrupt its attack after the parry

[sweet flax]

eu redlotus gonna go down in dist atp

dudu weather followed by trio weather what's next bleed? I need a break man

[amber temple]

Took a video of it probably just playing super wrong then

[dry python]

Imagine skipping dudu and incipience

[sweet flax]

I didnt skip dkey

I just dont have hoo gear

[dry python]

Holy brick

How tf did you get ss htr but no HoO gear

[sweet flax]

THAT'S WHAT IM SAYING

[dry python]

Ppm on HTR

[sweet flax]

to be fair you keep cancelling abilities, and your inputs are slow, that's something that you should work on

[amber temple]

Oh I am?

[sweet flax]

vintage next patch dw

[amber temple]

Do I keep tapping to fast?

I'm using my phone

[sweet flax]

you should click as you see, not as you feel

coralie is always about to do the last part of her weapon attack and then you go basic attack instead (happened twice)

[amber temple]

Oh

I feel dumb

[sweet flax]

also, when you activate so

activate it with coralie first so she can put the reso marks

[amber temple]

So?

[sweet flax]

stellar outburst

the blue button

[amber temple]

Ah the Astral ring thing

[dry python]

What am I watching

Ok wait

First of all

[amber temple]

Some who isn't good at the game

[dry python]

You don't even need to break the nihilus shell for that enemy

Just wait for it to enter parry stance and after it ends you hit it to expose the seed

Second why is your leader coralie

Is there something I'm missing here

[amber temple]

They told me to put her there

[sweet flax]

none of his valks are geared

[dry python]

[sweet flax]

and he has cora sparkle and lantern only

lantern isnt gonna do anything with a blue weapon, sparkle is type countered, hence the coralie reco

[amber temple]

I've only been playing off and on for a year

[sweet flax]

8.2 save this soul

[ancient needle]

You're overestimating Coralie and TC

[dry python]

There's no way tc will make sparkle dps worse than mf coralie

[amber temple]

This is what I have

[sweet flax]

all I saw was sparkle had underleveled gear, and no weapon sorry if I underestimated her worth

[amber temple]

Well it hasn't updated since I got Coralie up to ss and lvl 80

[ancient needle]

Oh, Sparkle is weapless too?

[sweet flax]

they all are

[ancient needle]

😭 😭

[sweet flax]

you think I would recommend coralie if sparkle had weapon?

[ancient needle]

Yes

[sweet flax]

teammate I will gut you alive find you

and it wont be pleasant when I do

this is a promise

[amber temple]

I don't have any of them since I'm used to other hoyo games not needing the characters to have a sig. I know better now

[sweet flax]

eh nowadays that doesnt hold true for the other hoyo games anymore

[rigid spade]

Is Herrscher of human ego's weapon the key of ego or is that just a weapon she can use?

[ancient needle]

It is her old sig