📿gacha-salt🧂

[visual otter]

i won so hard today, got taixuan bridge and also some bronya weapon from dorm supply

[slow thunder]

LETS GOOO

THE PAIN IS OVER

[edgy hedge]

this game is trolling me hard i wanted HoF not this i thought "yeah a pull wont ruin my pity" god sake

[last mist]

gacha addiction

[west chasm]

trolled yourself*

[fathom charm]

Bro thinking HoF is useable in this day and age

[bold kite]

Pulling on banner for valk they didn't want, gets upset at getting valk they didn't want

Raw #📿gacha-salt🧂 vibe

[crude timber]

Yup

[amber maple]

AAAAAA TERI TERI ICHIBAN KAWAIIII RAAAAA

[cobalt flower]

[steady void]

Meanwhile I save myself keep the 19 drop for Sparkle rerun.

[cobalt flower]

if the first reduced ten pull doesn't give good results rip banner valk

[bold kite]

[polar violet]

This is entirely your fault wdym

kekfacepalm~1

[clear flame]

Teri not worth getting bruh

[lyric fiber]

the only worth aop

If you actually want to pull aop ofc

[polar violet]

wdym, she great for LoA teams, espeacially in this weather

[clear flame]

We already have SSS DS

[last mist]

Huh we don't

[bold kite]

Enjoy your unstable crit rate on physical LoA valks and single stellar shifts. Teri is amazing for RL and moreso for Nirvana even at just S.

[bold kite]

Still SS.

[sharp condor]

this game just has to be difficult on my broke f2p ahh huh

[mighty finch]

luckissue

[twilit gull]

Returnee 1 pull xd

[swift kelp]

29 pulls only fuck yeahhhh

finally I can use a premium aop

[uneven heart]

deserved to be here forever

[uneven heart]

well done

[hollow nest]

i saw her pop up and actually got jumpscared i was only 50 pulls into the 100

plus i've gotten 2 of her weapon in a 10 pull plus all of her stigmata within 30 pulls

[crude timber]

Neat

[cobalt flower]

congrats

[slender bronze]

0 pity ten pull repost
#🎮honkai-chat message

Context: Noodles told me to do a random ten pull, and so I did and got insanely lucky

[nocturne talon]

why the fuck

was this 0 pity?

[slender bronze]

yep

[nocturne talon]

fair enough

gratz

[slender bronze]

you can scroll up a bit from the original post

[nocturne talon]

what a waste of a card

[slender bronze]

its fine

@nocturne talon I was about to go to bed as well before he told me to do it

reminds me of that time I sniped LV's weap

[rose pasture]

possible?

already did er

sigh

[thin tulip]

you wont have enough for her weapon anyway. might as well just skip entirely

[rose pasture]

already got her weapon

used focus cards

have all her gears ready

[bold kite]

Okay very good

[thin tulip]

well you are still in time for 1 more abyss so that's like 500 crystals (assuming RL). monthly pass and dailies will also give you another ~2 pulls in 4 days.

[rose pasture]

i’m actually cooked bruh i calculated i can only get max 4 pulls

welp this is it for me

wait does anyone know if there will be more of those outfit missions this week

there’s only two for this week but if i do one more i can get another 200 xtals

[thin tulip]

at most you are only 1 to 2 pulls off, it might even come in the next 4 pulls

[rose pasture]

please pray that i get s+ errands every day and get xtal tasks in the next adventure task reset

[thin tulip]

MA gives another 140 crystals too

[rose pasture]

cutting it really freaking close

[rose pasture]

UR RIGHT

I DIDNT FSCOTR THST IN

I ONLY DID THE 40 FROM THE SSS BOSSES

[nocturne talon]

have u done the b rank battlesuit trials

and are u sure you have no xtals left in er at all

[rose pasture]

yeah

100%

[nocturne talon]

like all valks lvl 15, all ego signets collected, all flamechaser signets etc.

[rose pasture]

yep

[nocturne talon]

insane even I'm too lazy for that

so you've done WC CE VC trial as well?

[rose pasture]

yes

all permanent content i’ve done

[nocturne talon]

u scraping crystals lmao

[thin tulip]

[nocturne talon]

actual hard pity is quite uncommon just pray u get it before

[rose pasture]

soft pity doesn’t exist in this game does it

man

[nocturne talon]

well

!faq rates

[mellow night]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[nocturne talon]

if it does its not as huge as other hoyo games

but the data still shows an increase after 75 pulls

[rose pasture]

everyone please pray for me

all or nothing

OH AND 50 FROM APRIL 1ST SIGN IN

[nocturne talon]

xd

[rose pasture]

i beg of rngesus please

[nocturne talon]

I can't think of anything else, I assume you already went through the one time xtals faq

and if there was anything else I knew of I'd have put it in there xd

[rose pasture]

😔

also how rh hell do you earn that many of the luna event currency

[mortal haven]

Pls Da Wei, I need this

[swift kelp]

damn the crystal scrappers

[merry pulsar]

deadazz

[nocturne talon]

!faq rates

[mellow night]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[nocturne talon]

!faq complain

[mellow night]

I am SOOOOO Unlucky!

STOP COMPLAINING CAPTAINNNNN!

Ai-chan put in all this hard work convincing Dawei to make it easier for Captains to fully gear new Valkyries... be grateful that you don't have to do 100+ pulls for full gear anymore!

Getting 'unlucky' on weapons is expected:

• Stigmata Rates are much higher than Weapon Rates.
  • 4★ Weapon Rate: 2.487%
  • 4★ Stigmata Rate: 14.586%
• What you see is what you get! There is no more "offrate" 4★ Equipment.
• You need duplicate stigmata anyway to salvage for Source Prisms to upgrade Part 2 Stigmata. If you got weapon early in every banner then you'd have a Source Prism Shortage.

-# Feel free to complain if you hard pity the Valkyrie, though! :D

Also see !faq rates for Battlesuit Gacha Rates info.

[rustic rose]

OH MY GOD I AM SOOOOO UNLUCKY... i had to spend like
4 pulls for a 4/4 valk aichan
Give me a 4/4 valk in 3 pulls next time 😒

[swift kelp]

Weak

I can get 4/4 in 1 single

[winged zodiac]

what's gacha salt without some good salt though

[mighty finch]

"In hi3, what you see is what you get"

[noble coral]

[primal sparrow]

congratulations

[river perch]

6S trio

[rugged shale]

Go for 9S next

[woven wharf]

these guys really added a command for complainers??

[hollow nest]

so pretty....

[tulip plaza]

Finally, ss2 now

[crystal ridge]

you dont want to know the amount of complainers we had to deal with when they discovered p2 gacha

some guy literally made an entire thesis on how hoyo secretly changed the rates (illegal)

[mighty finch]

the copium was indeed high

[rose pasture]

THANK YOU

[nocturne talon]

[winged zodiac]

and now time to skip a patch lol

[hexed light]

i got too excited

[edgy hedge]

yay got kiana 4/4 🔥

[fathom charm]

Next version valk I guess

[steady void]

Waiting sparkle.

[drowsy ledge]

sounds like something really entertaining to read

[late estuary]

Wasn't an isolated case as well, multitude of theorycrafting occured

[fathom charm]

Nah your brain would get set on fire

[drowsy ledge]

probably lol

[west chasm]

Anni still has scam rates tho

[polar violet]

real

[sudden harbor]

we dont have to spend that much bc every upd8 is a new s rank instead of the reprieve we got every couple updates of a farmable support

banner rates r adjusted bc of that

[bold kite]

Who are you talking to there

[sudden harbor]

im coping

[bold kite]

[sudden harbor]

[ornate bolt]

[mortal haven]

AFTER 88 PULLS

I AM FREE

[rustic rose]

A glowing yellow ball
How interesting

[pulsar sparrow]

forced to hard pity on valk (full 90 pulls), and now forced on this too? what a joke hoyo

[last mist]

40 pulls into weapon is normal tbh

Sadge about valk pity though

[pulsar sparrow]

sure, if only i got the valk around 70 or 80 pulls, maybe i can do 10-20 more on her gear, but no 🙂

[bold kite]

70 pulls on FWS
60 pulls on FWS weapon
60 pulls on HoHe dkey
60 pulls on TeriOp

Still less than the hard pity limit for a single p1 valk + 4/4 though so, not complaining

[clear flame]

fkin trash huh i've learned from this one, never pull astral OP fkin shit

[swift kelp]

I mean you can pull on her rerun later

[mortal haven]

ok what the hell man, it took me 89 pulls for the new kiana and now you are to tell me I got a dupe within the first 5 pulls

[clear flame]

i lost everything so i'm not trust her tho, i would invest in new Valks

[fathom charm]

How did u lost when we don't have 50/50?

[swift kelp]

Everything as in crystals

[bold kite]

Seeing this level of gacha salt, directly below my post about how much everything cost for me is kinda funny

To rub salt in my wound, I got SS TeriOp which took another 60 pulls, so 120 for grandma

Worth it for my RoO and LoA teams

[fathom charm]

Gacha salt at its finest

[rustic rose]

I want ss for my loa team

[cloud harbor]

GUYS I GOT KIANA AT PITY 9

[alpine socket]

i finally got her

[winged cove]

i am in so much pain

[lyric fiber]

Insane consider adv supply has low ass drop rate

[fast meadow]

TeriOP says I had to do 59/60 for rolling a copy

[short heron]

Forgotten I was at 1 pity with dorm when using the card from login

So now I have Aponia

[rustic rose]

Niceee

[mortal haven]

Mine went till 88 pulls

[scenic kernel]

gimme i have her outfit but not her...

[pliant yew]

who is the next on banners ?

[scenic kernel]

#💁gameplay-help message

[pliant yew]

thanks

i actually wanted mini Durandal

[steady void]

Tomorrow, I'll have Sparkle.

[warped maple]

but at what cost...

[steady void]

I have 19 drops left so, I think that's more than enough.

[west chasm]

A few xtals off from hard pity. Good luck

[pulsar sparrow]

10hrs left, waiting for abyss reset won't do, i'm done for

[thin moat]

i will get dudu weapon tomorrow trust

[primal sparrow]

we'll get her weapon too

[quaint lichen]

Finally got her Astral ring

[short heron]

Another Valk for ER

[rustic rose]

[sage cipher]

71 pulls + 1 solo and a dream!!

[cinder pasture]

im tired boss no kiana wep for me ig

[short heron]

Knew I was missing someone

[pliant yew]

i had to skip her for now sadly, i don't have enough to secure her, and mini Durandal, plus need to save on new one

[spiral tendon]

random single and got her wep in 20

cheapest valk i’ve gotten

[primal sparrow]

finally my sparkle is complete i can now rest in the grind for the next update

[primal sparrow]

congratulations

[steady void]

Well yes. I got her.

[primal sparrow]

congratulations

[pliant yew]

i want chicken

[wanton narwhal]

After 4 multis BRUH

[fallen aspen]

bro got the full set bundle

[wanton narwhal]

I could've saved more

[rugged shale]

Dang full set

[polar violet]

if u only lack weapon u can just backpull it in next version

[thin moat]

guess who didnt get dudu weapon

[pliant yew]

my mini Durandal achieved, in 18k with weapon. tho weapon dropped at like 4th, and she come at 23

[pulsar sparrow]

[void slate]

second pull.

at pity 78

[polar violet]

nice but why in #📿gacha-salt🧂 ?

[void slate]

just came back to hi3 after a year long hiatus, salty about not getting new kiana battlesuit in time
lol well if my luck was that bad surely this 10 pull won't get me anything

[polar violet]

idk why but returnees get more chances in gacha from what I've seen

[fallen aspen]

Bait for them to return and fall down to the hole

then hi3 proceeds to make the banner bad

[polar violet]

ahh yes

[fallen aspen]

hoyo the true shu of deception

[polar violet]

get them addicted to gambling thinking they have a chance xd

[fallen aspen]

lmao

this what happened when I got both songue and lantern plus weapon, spending 190 and get sparkle early on her release

[polar violet]

thats how the get a customer for life, jokes on them I'm a f2p that calculates my moves, well until tichu unf2p'd me-

[polar violet]

xd

[fallen aspen]

FWS was the nail to my chest

that banner is so eughhh, big scam

[polar violet]

I had to get her no matter what so I saved enough Xtals for 4/4 guarantee

cause I luv Kiana

p1 is engraved in my brain

[fallen aspen]

i just like her CN quotes

and very easy for me to play

[polar violet]

I love everything abt, and I got teri op for her to(at hard pity tho)

I also had sparkle for her

now just need the next valk

[fallen aspen]

wanted to get teri cause i can atleast stay in redlotus but, no

need next valk

(for obvious reasons)

[polar violet]

||She reruns next patch||

[fallen aspen]

tysm

[polar violet]

np just save up and look at #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins for more info

if u want no spoilers

then dont

[fallen aspen]

currently sitting at 5k xtals

not good but decent

[polar violet]

same xd

but I have 76 pity at valk banner so it's fine

[fallen aspen]

i always look at cn spoilers, need that gameplay and preperation

sitting at 90 after doing multiple single pulls for kiana

and i promised myself not to spend

[polar violet]

I might get locked to A3 next patch if I dont get the valk next patch

[polar violet]

the only reason I'm not f2p is because tissue gifted me 60 B-chips XD

they're just there now, useless

[fallen aspen]

i'm dolphin but i had other priorities

[polar violet]

stay dolphin, otherwise you're actually just gambling

[fallen aspen]

now i can't spend cause my card is refusing overseas payment for some reason now

[polar violet]

which is bad for obvious reasons

[polar violet]

maybe that's good xd

[fallen aspen]

no

i need my chiikawa merch

and i gotta whale on strinova and reverse 1999

[polar violet]

paypal?

or maybe just file a complain or something?

if all else fails you can just open a new acount for mastercard or somrthing

[fallen aspen]

we've done it multiple times already with the card, says they fix it but they straight up lie until they decided to finally tell me that they don't allow overseas anymore

[polar violet]

also let's go to #off-topic-discussion

kinda got outta hand here

[hallow wedge]

ohmy

[thin moat]

Why do i always have extra torus

[west chasm]

why are you complaining? I'll gladly take some if you don't need them

[pliant yew]

i'm always lacking those affixes materials

[tacit kayak]

Need some?

[pliant yew]

[cobalt flower]

[limpid swift]

[frail grove]

[polar violet]

i didn't know u could whale affixes......

GIMMIE

[tacit kayak]

You can felx a lot in hi3

[polar violet]

the only flex here is that ether wtf

Gimmie

[tacit kayak]

No trade system

[polar violet]

sadge

[tacit kayak]

3k for one cuby seems fair

[polar violet]

3 k coins

xd

[tacit kayak]

No the green one

I need cuby

[polar violet]

I can see that

[tacit kayak]

24 are ony 1 stigma set

[polar violet]

meanwhile me XD

[tacit kayak]

[polar violet]

I have reserves

[tacit kayak]

Me too but its to much salt for here

[polar violet]

lol

[polar violet]

now get her wp and u good for abyss

[thin moat]

H

SS soon trust

[robust citrus]

I want that soooo badly

[outer otter]

[thin moat]

I hate qua.

[rustic rose]

I love it on the other hand

But mainly cuz i own teri

[void slate]

imagine not having Sparkle in 2025

[thin moat]

Qua skip

Been skipping qua since 4.8

[rustic rose]

U pulled nyx on release?

I envy you

[wanton narwhal]

BROTHER CAN I HAVE WEAPON PLES

[fallen aspen]

no

[quaint thistle]

brother is protecting you from 🔫

[swift summit]

Damn i want have these stigma

[thin moat]

yes i got her in like 7 pulls or smth

[rustic rose]

Shes SSS now

[rustic rose]

Whats so Teri Read?

I just grinded it after she became farmable

[polar violet]

now 23x2x3 affix her stigs and SSS her

[rustic rose]

Heh...hehehehehe.

[polar violet]

[rustic rose]

23x5 (literally just need one nore wafer to 23x6) (the last ones at 22.9 lol)
And i already said shes sss smh

[polar violet]

[rustic rose]

Ill just add shes.

[rustic rose]

[polar violet]

how much ATK now?

[short heron]

[rustic rose]

1588?

[polar violet]

send me all the sats

[rustic rose]

Give or take

[polar violet]

[rustic rose]

The other stats dont matter

[polar violet]

like I mean the stats button

[rustic rose]

Woopsies im stupid

I skipped over the more recent photos

[rustic rose]

To much work

[polar violet]

1 click

[thin moat]

I havent been rerolling HoV affixes in ages

She got to 1590 atk and i left her there

[polar violet]

23x2x3 might get 1600+ ATK if u have dkeks, lyo has 1650 ATK on HoV

[vital ravine]

I just reached 150k crystals

[thin moat]

I need abyss flower 😭

Im missing way too many dkeys

[polar violet]

same

btw judah is in exchange shop

[limpid swift]

im 7% of that

[polar violet]

wtf whel

[swift summit]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-damn-damn-damn-damn-right-dame-time-gif-18029769

[swift summit]

Can I have 10k crystal of ur?

I m so poor

[robust citrus]

Dedication 🔥

[loud wasp]

Hey, so I've got like 3 pity left in gacha, and I've got plenty of cards. Ive been trying to get RS dudu weapon but failing dismally.

Question is, should I pull for dudu or save my pity for another character when I've got the xtal for weapon??

Pls help

[vital ravine]

Dudu needs her weapon

[loud wasp]

I see, so I shouldn't bother pulling her then. Guess I'll save my xtals and 3 character pity for helia or sushang

[quaint thistle]

make sure you get their weapon if you want them to work well in battle

[polar violet]

no that just whel

[robust citrus]

You never know

[polar violet]

nah it's 100% whel

[robust citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/nep-nepu-neptune-neptunia-smug-gif-3496524030879322312

[rustic rose]

Wuz with all the reactions

[molten tendon]

????

awesome

[warped maple]

i gonna see some rocks flying there

[bold kite]

yeah thru yer house

git outta here doggy

🪨

[warped maple]

i gonna throw knives back

[real moth]

Cope for my ely

[velvet ingot]

pplease elysia

[slender bronze]

pulling without guarantee

[velvet ingot]

😁

i have a credit card if it doesnt work out

[slender bronze]

[nocturne talon]

huge

so tired of getting stam from the free pull

[scenic kernel]

real

[warped maple]

guess what i got

[boreal wolf]

suffering from success (i wanted AE stamps...)

[remote adder]

After 2917402 years

[polar violet]

[cobalt flower]

how are you still here after that long

[remote adder]

Because I can

[bold kite]

They are after all, starlight

[cobalt flower]

[west chasm]

I gambled and it paid off

ty Elysia

for your Blessing

[scenic kernel]

[west chasm]

I guess she likes me for going for her bow

[swift kelp]

Everyone gambling for ely outfit makes me want to do the same

[cobalt flower]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-dark-kermit-gif-13921433

maybe you will get lucky

or not

[fallen aspen]

no such thing as luck unless you're returnee or straight up whel

[cobalt flower]

[steady void]

I'm not one of those. instead I want new Thelema outfit.

[swift kelp]

Nah I'd rather save my luck for valk and weapon banners instead

[heavy dove]

1 ten pull, 0 pity, delusions and a dream resulted in this beauty

[polar violet]

[astral oasis]

[cobalt flower]

how many refreshes did it take

[astral oasis]

Only free

[cobalt flower]

so it was already in there when you checked?

[astral oasis]

[sharp condor]

yes luna ik u love me but can u tell game to giv me dudu pls

[ornate bolt]

why r u pulling?

[sharp condor]

bcuz dudu

[polar violet]

rip shushang funds

bros gonna be saving for new helia battlesuit trust

[sharp condor]

i mean ik i should be saving rn

[polar violet]

[sharp condor]

but yk

gambling addiction

[ornate bolt]

impulsive smh

[scenic kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-disappointed-smh-shake-my-head-oh-brother-gif-6826525774079143920

[polar violet]

[polar violet]

real xd

[slow thunder]

i might have ruined my acc with this one but i love the outfit 😭

[polar violet]

🧱

[jolly cloud]

I have inexplainably good fortune for Ellie.

[rare flax]

i fear for my future sushang pull...

[ornate bolt]

insane

[polar violet]

guess what ||THE DARK LORD'S DEAD HAHAHA||

[bold kite]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

[bold kite]

Technical foul

[ornate bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/vita-mini-vita-little-vita-orange-vita-orange-gif-17190309313513252277

[bold kite]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-impact-3rd-honkai-impact-3rd-vita-vita-hi3rd-vita-hi3rd-gif-12966430124851242084

[cobalt flower]

i pulled lunar vow again on an alt

now its s1 lunar teri

[rugged shale]

Alt be an alt

[cobalt flower]

weird luck on an alt

[rugged shale]

True that

[bold kite]

S2*

[cobalt flower]

oh oops

[bold kite]

[polar violet]

[ornate bolt]

[jolly cloud]

I think I spent less than 200 pulls worth of crystals for SS HoHE + both sets of gears + skin.

[lapis tangle]

WHATT

WHATTT

this is so out of blue

[ornate bolt]

seeing this make me wanna pull

[quaint thistle]

yall are pulling?

so close to another patch?

[scenic kernel]

they can't stop the gambling smh smh

[bold kite]

nae Ningyo, just 1 week to wait

Continue to charge till then

[fallen aspen]

-# dudu rank 2 weapon,,,,

[ornate bolt]

only have 9k ig skiping sus,hopefully 8.3 is equaly important like bleed

[bold kite]

Sus banner is 6 weeks long tho

You got lots of time

[ornate bolt]

true

hope we all have a lucky patch

[bold kite]

As I hope we all

[thin moat]

.

[lapis tangle]

if you dont have her weapon dont

i do have

and that's why i pull

oh

[ornate bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/aru-rikuhachima-aru-blue-archive-aru-blue-archive-anime-girl-gif-13544542777488806195

[west chasm]

chat how do i manifest sushi

[scenic kernel]

make a chicken shrine and feed them well

[thin moat]

Holy pe

[pliant yew]

about time

[regal bison]

wtf is my luck omg

[ornate bolt]

[scenic kernel]

give me.....

[smoky siren]

0$ spent, 1% chance
completes my ely collection

[thorn girder]

Pulling without being able to guarantee

https://tenor.com/view/aventurine-all-or-nothing-gif-940052929516816023

[slender bronze]

they got lucky and won though
(still not a good idea to pull without guarantee )

[thorn girder]

It can become a good idea if you pull and get lucky though 🤑

[tacit kayak]

66666

[gray wagon]

On my alt.

[livid star]

Just spent ±1.800 crystals

[daring swan]

...she's finally home...

[pliant yew]

[polar violet]

[jagged quail]

EARLY CHARACTER AND WEAPON WTH

Am I dreaming

The first time I have to craft the stigmas because the weapon came early

[pliant yew]

BIANKA rules

[bold kite]

nuh uh

[ornate bolt]

nuh uh

[shrewd flax]

To be honest out of all the part 2 characters I've pulled I like playing Dudu the most

[vital ravine]

[thin moat]

13 til guaranteed weapon....

[still bison]

https://tenor.com/view/魔法少女にあこがれて-gushing-over-magical-girls-mahou-shoujo-ni-akogarete-mahoako-utena-hiiragi-gif-16668755739204796778

[slender bronze]

pulling without guarantee

[still bison]

I knowwwww but I want her skin so baddddd

[tacit kayak]

[placid eagle]

Its been long since its last rerun right?

The outfit

[last mist]

last rerun was in 7.7

[placid eagle]

Ohh

[gray wagon]

Despite powercrept, she will remain in our heart.

[cobalt flower]

without her proper stig set

poor benares

[swift kelp]

Pulling an outfit without a guarantee is insanely unhinged

Those poor crystals, down the drain

[thin moat]

i like benares set

i gave it to HoV when i first started playing

i should do that again and also add bella elf

[tacit kayak]

Bella

The 26 nuts tell you a story

Now old elfs are Impossible to get

and Impossible usefull

[thin moat]

i got bella

a few versions ago

good use of spending event

[tacit kayak]

Holy crab thats a lot of frags

[rustic rose]

Uhm ack- we get one next patch

[tacit kayak]

I not will if i can rank up my 3* elfs or a valk

[rustic rose]

What?

[unborn spade]

there's only elfs in the box

[cloud berry]

can someone please fun me some crystals im going to die

my heart hurts

[fallen aspen]

this should be a life lesson to never spend on skins in that game unless you're rich enough

[cloud berry]

i usually dont but elysia is so pretty

its.. elysia..

[fallen aspen]

ok and?

we don't pull outfits unless we're whels

[cloud berry]

dosent mean i cant try atleast :(

[slender bronze]

You can pull outfits as a f2p, you just have to farm enough crystals for guarantee and be smart with your pulls and learn to save.

[slender bronze]

But this is a pulling without guarantee moment

[swift kelp]

You can but you shouldn't be disappointed when you didn't get the outfit, since you're well aware of the risks but still going for it anyway

[thin moat]

Oh

5 pulls in 2 days trust

I really dont want to get sushang weapon

[zenith salmon]

nah i understand bro 100% here

Skins are cool :>

When i was play playing the game i got HoRb skin

i dont play anymore cuz no new seele but i never regretted getting it

[last mist]

Even if you like the skin pulling without guarantee is just wasting crystals

[zenith salmon]

yeah tru

i think its possible to still clutch of u farm crazy story tho

if they have story that is

[fathom charm]

Not necessarily
F2p can pull for it, just that you need to prepare for worst case scenario

[crystal ridge]

why are you a trial mod

anyways can you bean people on my behalf

@slender bronze first please

[slender bronze]

this is why you don't get to look at the spreadsheet

[crystal ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smacking-other-cat-cat-cat-smack-cat-swat-gif-10347810988835752163

[slender bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/737923520893288450/1275057802699870288/brandbird_6.gif

[fallen aspen]

and honestly most the time people in here never have guarantee

plus character/weapon banner takes so much at this point i don't see anytime to get outfits

[fathom charm]

No idea

[fathom charm]

Nu uh that's abooze

[fathom charm]

Ehh pretty much
Unless they took in account the outfit and didn't bother with valk

(As in they prioritize outfit first, then valk)

[bold kite]

Why aren't you grated

[rustic rose]

Ohmegosh

R u becoming a mini lyo? HoV, trialmod, Lol /j

Congrats on trial mod tho, gl

[fathom charm]

Yea the only thing I'm lacking is lyo's amazing British accent <3

Thanks!!

[rustic rose]

Darn
Just travel back in time and be born in britian and live there
Smh

[fathom charm]

Literally xD

[cloud berry]

i know i really do but SHE IS SO PRETTYYY

[cloud berry]

i guess :(

[thin moat]

What am i even doing up here

[rain wagon]

day 1 ma moment

[vital ravine]

Haha

[thin moat]

Oh

Idk what to pull next patch

[fathom charm]

Oh congrats! No more hare weapon

[thin moat]

I will still buy hair weapon it would be funny

[pliant yew]

Bianka rules

[bold kite]

[cloud berry]

I WON

[visual otter]

my 3rd gacha outfit! not rly proud bc i was saving, suddenly my gambling addiction took over and then i was 2 pulls away from the outfit, so i farmed and got it

[thin moat]

i forgot how many gacha outfits i had

its more than 2 as far as i remember!!

(i really lost count)

[errant mica]

me first'

10 and 50'

[thorn girder]

wdym I dint get sushang 👿

[lyric fiber]

[thorn girder]

The demons inside me is telling me to spend it all

[real moth]

Mygod why is this account lucky....

And 35 pulls

[slender bronze]

83 pulls
@left moss @fathom charm @lunar osprey @earnest rover

[west chasm]

nooooooo

[late estuary]

Oof
surely the weapon comes early

[west chasm]

[real moth]

@west chasm i really got her on discounted like bruh... On the rich(xtal account tho)

Might as well get teriop am i right JK

[west chasm]

dont brick yourself

[late estuary]

@jagged sundial post the damages

[faint plank]

omg you stole my sushang

[real moth]

It got sparkle on discounted too damn might as well get 50k xtals by the next patch

[slender bronze]

48 pulls

[jagged sundial]

88 50

20k left

[west chasm]

missed the strem goddamnit

oh well

[late estuary]

good good
but man hard pity again

[west chasm]

i see another trend...

[jagged sundial]

still enough for 8.3 ez

[late estuary]

[west chasm]

but maybe its just coincidence

[jagged sundial]

wait

i have no sushang stigs

[late estuary]

Okay wtf

[jagged sundial]

i built pity last patch until 15 to weapon and i got weapon

so yeah

[west chasm]

building pity

[late estuary]

Ohh

ah rip

[jagged sundial]

well it wasn't building pity i was trying for hoh dkey dupes

but no early pulls so i gave up

[late estuary]

don't tell me it's me cursing pulls this time

[real moth]

[west chasm]

ah okay

[west chasm]

nah i just meant that last patch was bad

but now there's no excuse really

[real moth]

Should i go for SS sushang? It needs 2 dupes for SS right i got 1 dupe or S2 already good

[west chasm]

why would you though

[real moth]

[late estuary]

won't suggest ranks tbh
I don't see anything too notable worth sacrificing 8.3 for

[real moth]

Brick any%

[west chasm]

nah

besides ranks are kinda ass

dunno about SS

[fathom charm]

Unfortunate

[real moth]

Well now it's time to farm upgrade mats for stigs and weapon ... The sad part of early drop in weap banner

[west chasm]

check bonuses, maybe there's some login events that help you out with that

[real moth]

Need 4 more honkai piece things gotta get 1 from event

And don't talk about prisms... That shit is so rare for some reason

[errant mica]

no more wait for monday, bp started just now'

[crystal ridge]

20 pulls, hard pitying weap tho so fuck that

@slender bronze @west chasm @jagged sundial @nocturne talon @whoever

[nocturne talon]

Bleed dps ❌
Stun dps ✅

[west chasm]

watch this be senti boss cope

totally not going to try this

[nocturne talon]

xd

[late estuary]

congrats

[crystal ridge]

done

20 pulls for sus and 46 for weap

[mighty finch]

5+30 pulls

[solar juniper]

119 pull, not too bad

[crystal ridge]

what the fookin whel

[slender idol]

i love hoyoverse

[real moth]

[mighty finch]

https://tenor.com/view/humpback-whale-whale-onthe12thfloor-stan-twitter-gif-3446111347746334272

[slender idol]

woWoWOwoOWOwowOw no way 1 shot on WeApOn

||no joke hoyo, please revamp this lol||

[real moth]

[slender idol]

ya guys need some cubes???

[real moth]

My broke ass can't comprehend that amount of dupes

[drifting vapor]

Shang shang! (After 50 pulls. Sigh)

pain

[timber lion]

Is pulling sushang actually worth

[real moth]

Ok super early weapon..... Guess need to do event for more prism|| guess 2 of my account is lucky this time||

[cedar sierra]

i've heard people say wait for 8.3 announcement or pull if you're missing bio/bleed/hitcount coverage

[cold acorn]

88+53 sushi hates me

[crystal ridge]

shouldnt have pulled

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smacking-other-cat-cat-cat-smack-cat-swat-gif-10347810988835752163

[west chasm]

Results: || 20 pulls Sushi, 60 pulls Qingque colored weapon. Damage: 21000 c:||

[cedar sierra]

sushi

[cedar sierra]

susque real???!??!!??

[west chasm]

SUSQUE REAL

and my pulls are finally not terrible

just the weapon banner curse persisted

[jolly cloud]

20 pulls

[real moth]

[lunar osprey]

ish..

[hollow abyss]

15 pulls total

[cedar sierra]

wtf you win

[hollow abyss]

I was planning on skipping

[drowsy ledge]

welp i rolled 30 times and i didnt get anything i guess i should save for the 8.3 valkyrie

[fathom charm]

Yay....

[viral matrix]

17k got the valk this time didnt go 90 pulls

[lunar osprey]

@slender bronze @left moss i win

discount pull lets go

[slender bronze]

[crude timber]

Oh uh ok

[cedar sierra]

aye bruh

sushang why

[eternal oxide]

20 pull i got shushang,weapon one stigmata O_O
I dreaming? Only 4200 crystal for that O_O

[tranquil jewel]

Im ending it all

Got baited by a ranks so many times

[wheat surge]

same

[real moth]

Don't worry hoyo just giving you edging streak

All those dopamine will crash low after not getting S rank

[wheat surge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-i-am-on-the-brink-meme-white-text-gif-26506151

[mortal haven]

@jagged sundial @west chasm icl man just get better tbh

[jagged sundial]

You still need the weapon...

[mortal haven]

dw ill get it this patch

[west chasm]

dont jinx it on weapon now

[jagged sundial]

Also like, I have 21k rn after pulling both I don't think you should be the one telling me to be better

[west chasm]

16800 hard pity btw

why do i know? because i hit it

[mortal haven]

same

[umbral spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1045365081359257743/1364924161364852787/image.png?ex=680b702f&is=680a1eaf&hm=7bac387fbf32e28529531f4a5bff0a31794bd63dc71f0ee7ba9bff4f540c4941&

[west chasm]

genuinely a good thing for upgrade mats

any other banner 10 pull is worse

[mortal haven]

🔥

[umbral spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1045365081359257743/1364924465255022703/image.png?ex=680b7077&is=680a1ef7&hm=36ce9dd34acbbe0f4ccca3de47c4a5cc170dcaca7559fb9681d1ed2449df0e9c&

[mortal haven]

dang, i got all 3 of them at once in first multi

[umbral spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1045365081359257743/1364924827584041040/image.png?ex=680b70cd&is=680a1f4d&hm=d95565c319ba774bdf7b9bf226b169ae94e5acf302fa5a8cada126b5fcf01e8c&

25 pulls

[mortal haven]

the single pull demon

i think i might take all 60 pulls to get it

but i will get it

me and physical dmg type are besto friendos

[short heron]

[hollow flower]

in 10k cristals (got her at discounted)

[thin moat]

I really dont like sushang

But %50 off pull is %50 off

Building pity 🤤🤤🤤

[umbral spindle]

that's how baiting works

[real moth]

I sure did get baited even if can't guarantee ||pure hail mary||

[winged zodiac]

man hoyo hates me this week, 2 hard pities due to a 50/50 loss in zzz and now this lol

[shy sorrel]

[winged zodiac]

ah yes.. the dream

[real moth]

[mortal haven]

AINT NO WAY 😭

not even i reached tha tone with the last patch and that kiana was the one i got closest to on hitting the pity pull 😭

[real moth]

The best feeling of getting valk early but weapon on later pity to get those sweet materials is real

But getting valk in hard pity.....

[winged zodiac]

doesn't stop tat valk apparently

who did i piss off lol

[real moth]

[winged zodiac]

imma do singles to see if i can get to 1 again, it will be a challenge

nope, 10 pity

oh well

140 pulls for valk + wep

luckily 50 of those were vouchers but still

[real moth]

Damn you saved all vouchers from previous patches? That's a ton or is it top up

[winged zodiac]

think there was a lot weekly rewards etc but some bundles as well

have enough crystals for one more patch because of one time rewards and the anniv, hopefully the next patch treats me a bit better

[fast meadow]

mihayo loves me today

[elfin ferry]

Because i had high pity (84) and low crystal i did a single multi on her weapon banner. I planned to do 2, and if i didn't get her weapon i'd skip. Well, i got her weapon first multi... now i have to get her.

[limpid swift]

70 pull, 20 sushang 50 wep

[scenic kernel]

you shouldn't be doing that tho
you should have kept a safe for the wp and dumped the rest on the valk so that if you do get her you can get the wp immediately

hope u get her tho

[elfin ferry]

I utterly disagree with this notion. A valkyrie without her weapon is useless, and by checking to see if i get her weapon before i commit to going all the way to getting her, i could have easily pivoted to saving instead.

[frank walrus]

[real moth]

What the....

Prism fest yum

[scenic kernel]

uh that not what i said
i said save crystals for the weapon and don't use until you get her, use any excess on the valk herself
if you don't get the valk in the end then you would have a useless weapon, but if you do you can 4/4 her immediately

[steady void]

Decided to get her. I can finally deal with pishacha easier I think.

[scenic kernel]

nice!!

(video adjusted bc of size limit) the game didn't need to give me multiple heart attacks bruh 😭

[bold kite]

I got 3 a-ranks in a ROW

Never been so upset

[rustic rose]

I got claws

[scenic kernel]

after sus i got another himeko lol

[rustic rose]

Nidhoggs claws

[scenic kernel]

i got 3 crystal tasks in the apho OW but my recording deleted the proof 😭

[primal sparrow]

I'm super sad sushang has just eaten over 18k+ xtals and she's still not home

[west chasm]

yea it do be like that sometimes

[primal sparrow]

I'm cooked i have no other future supports for new helia apart from badum

idk how I'm going to cope with this patch

[pliant yew]

lost on 82 pity in zzz to lycaon m2 💀 now this

[winged zodiac]

first copy of rina for me

[pliant yew]

lucky its not m2 lycaon then lol

[brittle saddle]

I was getting worried when Sushang pulls dipped into the 20s range of pity, but luckily one multi of weapon was enough

[pliant yew]

last time i were pulling on Bianka her weapon went nearly full pity

then again, same does Sparkle

[brittle saddle]

I did go to almost pity on Badum and Sparkle both

[pliant yew]

i'm really considering ditching weapons fr

its getting ridiculous

[pliant yew]

i literally skipped kiana cuz i can't keep up lol

[brittle saddle]

For safety you should skip if you can't pity both valk and weapon

It's fine to skip one patch every now and then

You only really feel bad in the first few weeks of a new valk release tbh

[pliant yew]

well, i need bleed valk so, i'm going for it

i can't physically get part 1 fully geared bleed valk

and i'm really, really getting annoyed by constant bleed weathers

its getting absurdish

[brittle saddle]

There were only two last version iirc

Anyway yeah I gotcha. I skipped VQ gear in favor of Hare so I've been coping on Bleed.

[pliant yew]

yeah, its why i skipped last kiana its ok to skip, i wanted Sushang more for bleed

[tacit kayak]

[pliant yew]

forget the drop, thats a lot of crystals

[tacit kayak]

Kiana refund

[proud tide]

yeah...are you guys type who skip many valk but go ham on spending event or any wanted valk??

[rustic rose]

Live laugh Nidhoggs Claws

[quaint thistle]

That's the best strategy

I built 10 pity from the discounted first 10 pulls

I successfully built pity with my discounted pulls because my luck sucks

[primal sparrow]

I'm hard pity with all of them give me your luck to pull sushang

you're not alone

[brittle saddle]

I pull for who I want

[muted sonnet]

how is my 10 pulls?

[real moth]

Goated

[warped maple]

pain

[left moss]

[scenic kernel]

bunny jump!/10

[fierce plank]

is Sushang worth it if i've got jack all for Bio units?

[late estuary]

80
40
Pain

[agile ridge]

I dont remember when was the last time since part 2 that I've obtained a valk without pulling 90 times

[late estuary]

Whats your crystal count, do you need a bleed dps?

[agile ridge]

ah yeah, before part 2

[fierce plank]

30k, i've got Luna but no Teri support built

[late estuary]

whats the pity numbers

[fierce plank]

87, 58

[late estuary]

Waiting for 8.3 news it is in this case, for a second opinion you can ask #👶beginner-help

[fierce plank]

i c, ty

[half narwhal]

[narrow nymph]

omg so relatable

[prisma narwhal]

on 4 left and weapon on 10 left smh my head

[river mason]

Fk this game why do I always hit near hard pity on both banners like 81 pulls sushang and 50 pulls her weapon

Well at least I'm lucky in zzz

[atomic harness]

look at the bright side its not a 50/50 system like in zzz

[tacit kayak]

https://youtu.be/T6QmGZZ4waw?si=kizv1G4afJ0-7f7B

[jovial siren]

the first pull

[twilit quarry]

[tacit kayak]

Also, call it a day

[nocturne talon]

Holy torus

I am so happy with this patch

[true acorn]

Was it cheap?

[candid axle]

pog, so much torus, ig sushang is an ok addition

[true acorn]

[nocturne talon]

not really just average

I alr had pity built so it felt cheap but was average in reality

like 68 valk 45 wep or srth

[stiff sigil]

YAAY I got my first limited character
Now to suffer on the weapon banner with 49 pulls until pity
At least I didn’t spend much with the discounted multi so I’m guess that’s nice ^^

Thank you Kiana…for helping me get close to pity

[next cobalt]

1 in and we win

[river mason]

Bro how would you feel if you hit hard pity since version 7.4?

[atomic harness]

yea i know it be bad and i be angry but its bette than wasting your pulls and get juped by the 50/50\

[river mason]

Ye i guess so

[atomic harness]

think of it this way by pure cash 200$ or so if you wanna pay for the complete pulls in honaki star rail thats roughly enough pulls for the character and then getting hit with the 50/50 think 200$ for a chance to get the character for hard pity

[thin moat]

Lyo i have 800 extra torus i could give if you need

[sharp vault]

There's already new Valkyrie?

[bold kite]

Already? It's been 9 weeks

[sharp vault]

Damn i've been missing for like 3 months cuz the game didn't offer enough crystals

And i wasn't able to pull nothing

I don't think it was different if i was playing, just like 2-4 10x pulls

On ONE banner, valk or equip

Like, they add, but no crystals. Also, we start from such a high number, 90 before pity.
They should make it like equip, 60.

[bold kite]

!faq rates

[mellow night]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[sharp vault]

That's my reason for leaving this game behind after playing for so long. It's made for whales fr

[bold kite]

Not playing the game = Not farming crystals = You don't have any crystals = You cant afford to pull

Welcome to the life of every gacha and the consequences of not playing

[sharp vault]

But you still don't get enough honestly

[sharp vault]

Oh i know, i've been playing lots.

It just started hitting me then, before i started playing less and less.

[wide solstice]

i did the discounted 10 pull and i got sushang tf do i do now LMAO

i was gonna pull for helia but like

do i 4/4 her then??

[bold kite]

Sushang is awful without her weapon, so keep that in mind

[wide solstice]

a h

well sushang is a welcome surprise ig

time to 4/4

[cunning turret]

100%

[cunning turret]

i always gacha for weapons first im normally more lucky on characters banners anyway 😞

sparkle first 10 pill then hard pity for her weapon

[round marsh]

bruh i got the new weapon twice before i got one stigmata

[lyric fiber]

[scenic kernel]

2 wps in the same 10 pull... right...?

[round marsh]

one in one 10 pull, another in next 10 pulls

[real moth]

Crazy work

[pliant yew]

isn't its like all of them lol

i'm a bit sad i hoped she'll summon a big chicken from her ult again

[hexed glacier]

Got it for the first 10 from 0 pity
I didn't mind not getting her, but I guess I'll be building her now

[steady void]

Well when it comes to gacha. I don’t pull for ranks unless I wanted to. Like SS thelema I had in 8.1 carnival supply. more rime.

[narrow nymph]

[bold kite]

Yes?

[narrow nymph]

I mathed
26k xtals to ensure that i will get her
So sad

[bold kite]

[west chasm]

[narrow nymph]

Fws solo les go

[west chasm]

drumming solo

[narrow nymph]

I WAS TIRED AND DECIDED TO STOP GRINDING AND PULL SINGULARLY

I was about to cry when hoyo jumpscared me with coralie and I only have enough xtals left for 1 pull

Now i cry because i have to grind for the weap

[crude timber]

Rip

[pliant yew]

she is very fun to play from what i seen on my account

[quaint thistle]

just dont pull like me and demoot into sinful

[vital ravine]

[west chasm]

better than always pulling valk without weapon. only gets you stuck somewhere in agony

[thorn girder]

I swear if this is another hard pity weapon

[twilit quarry]

These are some lucky pulls huh

Like

Really lucky pulls

[lyric fiber]

[pliant yew]

i'm at 13 to drop on weapon 💀

[polar violet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/630953017310576658.webp?size=96&animated=true

[pliant yew]

well gg, time to wait a week

for another 1-2 pulls

[rustic rose]

Goodbye my last pure A rank.

[fallen aspen]

the devil got to me and it worked on my non discounted pull

[mental fox]

50% discount.

[pale ingot]

wow like me

but i still have 25k crstyal left

[mental fox]

Fellow lucksacker haha

[pale ingot]

)

u see my post above

[mental fox]

Yeah haha. I've used that crystal all in on tuna

[pale ingot]

nah i also have 4/4 tuna, 4/4 ely and teriri astral op, i still have 25k crsytal

[clear flame]

jajaja

[pale ingot]

bruh i already reach 1500 days 2-3 week ago

[half narwhal]

[fallen aspen]

throw bricks at this guy

[crude timber]

No

[fallen aspen]

yes

[pliant yew]

it was nice knowing ya.

o7

https://tenor.com/view/solid-snake-salute-gif-24255323

gotta love stupid bleed weathers and burn weathers, ty game

[stiff ether]

I don't know what you have but I just use Vita,HoFI and Luna as bleed enabler
The last time I check I endup 4th with 21666 points

[pliant yew]

don't have Luna, i used Sushang without sig on RL and all i could get is 400-ish points lol

don't ask why no sig, the game hates me

so i am still at 12 to drop

probably going to take another full ten stack, knowing how it usually goes all the way to max

[scenic kernel]

ps without her weapon sicks but do you have badum or small dudu? you can probably force her as a support in that team to at least try retaining

[half narwhal]

finally

[pliant yew]

yes, my Bianka is in fact my best dps

don't have badum tho, have vita

its fine, i guess i'll just derank back to comfy agony 3.... RL on NA too sweaty

[cobalt flower]

[thorn girder]

19 more expeditions ig

[vague ridge]

mood

[thorn girder]

I think this is karma for expecting to get 4/4 first 10 pull

[thorn girder]

finally after 54 pulls

[pliant yew]

you think thats bad

after me getting Sparkle's weapon on like literally 2nd to full 60 i'm not surprised anymore it taking 60, thh game should just outright take it at full 60 or a bust lol

so people stop pulling on a weapon unless they have 60 pull

[ruby lava]

Ranks:
S0 - 87
S2 - 80
SS - 40
SS1 - 5
SS2 - 30
SS3 - 10

Weapons:
+1 - 50
+2 - 57
+3 - 15

[pliant yew]

and here i am, usually go from like, i dunno, last 10 or 20 to full every banner

[rustic rose]

104k xtals