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And if you arenât bleed
!faq affix
Hello, Captain! 
[Click here](#đśbeginner-help message) for the in-depth Affixing guide!
Overall, you should only affix Best-in-Slot Stigmata and generally aim to get as much Atk as possible on your DPS Valkyries first. Ensure that the Battlesuit/Weapon Type matches what the Affix line demands otherwise the Atk will not apply.
Remember only Physical Damage can crit, and "crit ratios" do not apply to Honkai Impact 3rd.
Any references for no dudu abyss?
With paws dps?
check out this @gray magnet #đśbeginner-help message tho I had trouble imitating it because I was super damage gated
you can also do intro with evade evade basics instantly after second evade and I found that was easier to get the same timing
https://youtu.be/fHn6HX5dZz8 this is my best attempt atm. I don't have chenxue and by the time I can use ds/kiana elf, I already did a full rotation with Helia - so I don't think I can SO early. But what do you guys think? Are there other ways I can improve this run?
stay in on helia in part 1
you should be able to just kill before buffs run out
it'll save you like 20 pts
afte the transition there's no reason to delay the SO much you can sjust do it instantly nobody will stop you
that way you will do more of your SO dps in debuffed state
and then instead of enhanced WA ult with fdd, do combo attack with RS
so you reup stun
if you aren't quite there on damage
so yeah, just do P1 with helia, switch to RS in transition so you have your instant combo, go paws and SO right after
should work
Can you define that further? Cause it sounds like either you want me to skip all buffs (skip using RS and fdd in intro) or skip fdd and RS refresh of buffs near the end of p1. If itâs the latter Iâm still confused cause Fddâs buffs run out at the end.
Wonât I SO while itâs shield up and so do less damage? So I should SO when the shield is down, right?
The way it works is your first three ults will break the shield, allowing you to combo attack for damage, then you combo with RS to reup stun buff before it goes away, ult fdd, back to paws, and then your second set of 3 ults into combo into finisher should kil
the way you are doing it now you are wasting all your stun buffs and might as well not be running RS for part 2 which is obviously gonna score badly
https://youtu.be/dlWFIm_78gY?si=Dur1TPvD8VmlaEPQ
I think I did better, I'm not sure what you meant by 'combo with RS though' so I just assumed the hold attack - you could have also meant the sequence she does with basic attacks if you tap atk when you qte (fills up her bar if it isn't already) but I kinda doubt it since it takes longer
u didn't get stun at p2 initially
idk why u only ulted with dudu and didn't do ca
ult was more to bring in Helia as quickly as possible. I didn't consider the part about stun.
yeah the combo I meant was combo attack to stun
I think your SO is also a bit suboptimal, there's no need to do the extra basics in there idt but if you are I would WA ult with FDD so I could get an extra ult in there
I expect skipping them for an early finisher into normal ult sequence out of SO does a bit better
just do ca and then in SO u can cut out the ca and only ult with dudu, feels like u can kill
SO has more buffs than outside of SO (or so I've heard), so I added basics and WA to make the most of ults while making sure I had time for the finisher.
So has more damage than non SO but ults have more damage than basics 
ok fair
just try both but first stun at p2 cuz for half the SO ur fighting him with 1 stack of debuff
so do dudu ca ult then helia do stuff and ring then do what u were doing originally but cut out dudu ca, can do dudu ca again but if you do want to refresh stun, u prob want to do fdd qte first before it, but if still stunned when u swap to dudu then dont bother
im thinking u straight up just kill if u did do the ca ult before SO then whatever without dudu ca, would kill in SO
hey yall, I just got back into the game after getting off, heard part 2 came out
I think the last time I played was during the asuka updateish? I've got a good amount of xtals (at least 20k), any idea what banner I should pull on?
or just general stuff to catch up
just save
but u prob have enough to pull for next upcoming valk+weap and the ones after
gotcha
anything I should do if I want to pick up where I left off in the campaign?
like finishing the rest of p1
Youâll want to get to the start of part 2 sooner or later because it gives you VBM + wep for free and sheâs there best free support for part 2
But itâs not enormously urgent
how do you skip hod transition?
You mean at the very start?
after the minion drop, HOO ults depletes the healthbar i saw a video where it skip the dodging minigame
i can't replicate skipping the dodging part
kill hod before he drops down
yeah if you kill late then the boss will hop back and do the transition as per usual
also not related but keep in mind to pause as soon as you finish p1 to pick up sp packs
@open bone apparently some damage controlling is necessary for getting the boss to not stall after mobs. You can't deal more than 180k to the puppets with HFS ult
huh
well u just need hofs exit to kill, so whatever taht exact dmg is
its around 180k yeah but iirc i seen someone be around that
and still do it
because of lunar vow next vers, im assuming its following the other free battlesuits and she will have dlc equipment in the near future so is it worth bagging her og weap or nah and save crystals for pt2 lunar?
we have no confirmation of that so i can't really recommend banking on any assumptions.
I do think there are grounds to be wary of the possibility. Currently as is, LV uses are niche anyway so you may consider just forgoing current gear. Maybe focus more on ranks if you can spare the resources.
Although do note LV weapon is notable for allowing her to apply bleed with her bat off field so it might have utility that way. This was made used of back when Vita was used against bleed HoS but that is quite obsoleted now
ohh okay tysm!!! i might just grab her current weap then
on the note of crystallums, how much do you have? Have you bought all other divine keys yet?
!faq crystallum
Hey there, Captain! 
Crystallums are a Battle Pass Currency that can be exchanged for Valkyries and Equipment in the Reserve Works. Captains who purchase Knight or Paladin BP can also access the BP Works of that patch for 3 versions.
There are 3 BP tiers offering different amounts of Crystallums as follows:
-# The totals below account for the 2 Crystallums in the Dorm Shop.
- Vanguard (F2P) BP: 5 per patch
- Knight BP: 18 per patch
- Paladin BP: 24 per patch
It is recommended to spend your Crystallums on Divine Keys that you have yet to collect for permanent account-wide ATK bonuses. See the list [here](#đśbeginner-help message).
you may consider prioritizing these instead if you haven't yet but are meta focused
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but again this is currently obsoleted utility and has no current use atm
im not exactly meta focused, im slowly grabbing the dks but lunar vow i love too much
so at this point getting LV's weapon is only for any possible dps cycle she may still have left (bleed tribunal? etc)
if you don't already have lv built then beware other competing veteran players already have her geared, with her teammates, and herself ranked up too. It's too much to catch up on arguably metawise at this point
yeah thats all good, im not big on competing or meta i just want whoevers cool and building on from there if that makes sense
in that case sure prioritize LV's current stuff. Even if it gets obsoleted you can still appreciate it from a vintage perspective.
From the trend of past stellar keys, a new weapon may not improve her existing teams either. (HoHE's old non astral ring team would still prefer her older gear set, but that team is completely obsoleted)
ohh okay! thats abit of a positive and makes me feel better
anything further you may want to learn about LV's current state? Edit: Current teams? Rank effects?
Further adding to this, the dkeys in the reserve work shop are permanently available, whereas LV's stuff are leaving this patch iirc
hmm i dont think so for this ive gotten her teams organized to be decent not meta shattering though im far from that lol thank you for your time!!!! your input has helped alot
yeah thats why i ran to ask wether to wait for dlc or nah cuz i just have enough crystallums
meta wise i wouldn't recommend it overall
but you clearly expressed sentimental value from it
so it's more up to you esp if you can spare it
yeah ive wanted her since her release
def she isnt the best option right now but with my hle team i think i can spare a lunar vow investment
just be mindful what else you can be spending crystallums on esp if you plan to continue buying bp
keep in mind of the release order for a vague idea of what may come next. Check #đŽcn-gameplay-discussion pins if you haven't yet to see what next patch's bp is like
thank you!!
Iâm trying with what I got
for abyss?
That should be fine for A3 this week. RL prolly not tho
Yeah, Iâm slowly climbing up
So for later abyss how am I gonna do it?
luna eden kira/rc
Paws HLE VBM later today
kira is only S so rc is better actually
havent used her in like 50 years 
actually his ce is only s
rc wins again
gotta be ss+ to actually have a comprehensible run
ic
could also run vbm her generic buffs are solid
especially if tsiol but no good rc stigs
I think she even has bleed buffs but idk where on the kit so maybe useless
What does an initial helia rotation with both coralie and SSS chenxue look like? I've tried a couple things around but nothing feels like it's sticking
Coralie as in fdd?
Both coralie I think means FDD VBM
Yeah but should specify which battlesuit instead of the actual char name
Tho SSS Chenxue should assume SSS fdd as stated
Hmm
I should assume the person is in nirv, ranked teams can clear p1 without AO
Save AO in p2
Otherwise, it's mostly gated by 2nd SO CD and a bit of rolling for boss moveset with lesser hitlag mald
In p2
Coralie as in FDD and VBM
FDD is not SSS I just got SSS Chenxue because I really like her, not a smart decision but it is the one I made. No I dont regret it.
My mind actually auto'd to think they were asking about current abyss cycle rot
Pepega
No, I just haven't been able to work out a starting rotation since FDD release for them, the rest after the initial is fine, just not the initial. Also not a nirv player.
guys every time i want to download the game on my pc the page that is supposed to start the downloading doesnt open
try asking #đtechnical-help if you havent
answered in honkek chat
oh
but, i retain. Yippieee-
This is my first time retaining on Nirvana, cuz usually, i am stepping down to RL after Nirvana- XD
very dalao unlike ratlao asawhel
dalao only if you ref me 
Does anyone know how to fix this stuck in Thelema Quest? I tried both of my devices and yet this still happen
oh she does
I thought it showed in other menus too
anyone got a PAWS FDD RS ref btw bili is dumb as fuck and keeps giving me old HoS refs
nvm
nirv?
770 is good then, can probably get closer to 780+ with a more optimised rot
wth
nowayge
lots of people using shit like aslaug or literally just hfs full set if their hoo has enough dmg
or just marg mb instead of full set
I just copied what euphie and asaphie were using lmao
aghghg whats the 2nd best option on vita?
everyone using fws
omg aslaug back in meta
u hv ss chenchen right?
use hle fdd paw
wait no u hv sparkle
run ps fdd spark
for vita: sea's Depths SSS , waht team can i go with?
only got weopens of part 2:
HoF divine key
HoH divine key
Helia Signiture
handel TB? lmfaooooooo
shush im broke ok
eopri isnt even maxpri bro
and finally my forging of aslaug has finally paid off
are there any refs without rs
hey, its not fixable, already contacted supports, me and others, nothing to do besides the devs fix it themselfs hopefully this next patch coming wednesday they fix it, many pll stuck there
Exalted MA Refs for 12/30/2025 - 01/04/2026 [Invite Link Here if channels are unknown](#đgameplay-help message)
Husk: Existentialism [SSS]: https://discord.com/channels/1353576258038005760/1353588084536770584
AKA [SSS]: https://discord.com/channels/1353576258038005760/1353589543974211668
Lantern: https://discord.com/channels/1353576258038005760/1411516086578450580
new meta
I see, thanks
fossil
Best team if I got no QUA valkyrie?
are there any refs for the current abyss boss using ds i found this ref using chenxue that says you can add an extra paws weapon to make up for the lack of sp but thats not nearly enough i enter the second paws turn with like. 600 sp
unless this is another thing that paws weapon does and im just screwed without it
What team do you have
im running paws badum dudu
i do have fdd if that helps
but as mentioned i do not have paws weapon
ugh paws weapon gives more sp? annoying
So youâll need to do, like, Badum WA, paws x3 combo, Badum ult, Dudu ca ult, paws x3 combo
But if you donât have paws wep might be better off with HLE dps
yeah i dont have time for a badum wa before the SO runs out
You should definitely have time for it
definitely dont
What are you spending your time on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJK4xye4q4Q im following this ref
Aight abyss time! Flying fish but with different weather, same stage though nothing changed.
Stage is not that hard, RS is necesary as she's the only stun in p2 valks & symbiosis team. As for lead, there's PAWS & HLE only, HLE one is kinda scuffed, tried with FDD/RS and scored 745 so it's not that bad, but for good score there's only PAWS with...
You should be able to do it with lots of time to spare
well theres not enough time for both badum WA and paws WA
if i dont do badum WA i enter second paws phase with like 600 sp
Yeah thatâs not optimized for you.
if i do badum WA i enter second paws phase with like 800 sp
i mean ive tried like. not outbursting until the transition phase is done and its like. fine? idk
Yeah
but im trying to do better rn
You donât have anywhere near the damage to waste half your SO like that
Also again if you have HLE + wep prolly better
cause theres like 5 people who havent played yet and im 6th and thats scary
does hle work the same as paws here
just substitute hle stuff for paws stuff
oh the problem isnt the damage
cleanup phase after is cleanup phase after no matter the problem is the sp
its not like i can kill the boss in one SO if i SO after transition either
my problem is like. lining up the big damage to the good for damage windows
I was thinking you could paws ult ult, then Badum wa ult, Dudu CA ult, paws ult ult ult combo finisher
yeah thats what i do if i SO after transition the problem there is that most of my damage lands outside of the vulnerability or whatever that thing is called
idk
Thatâs why youâre doing Dudu combo in SO
To refresh it
i am doing dudu combo tho
Then why is debuff running out
I think the answer is that you gotta not be doing it in SO but fucked if I know what youâre doing instead
And yeah sounds better
oh hle doesnt gather... uhhh
WA has gather
I need to get higher than 750 to get higher than 9th, any tips? It's 4 star Kiana ELF and S2 Helia.
i mean. it didnt gather the orbs /shrug
guys does using SO counts as using the ultimate for the deliverance signets on ER?
Immediately ult after fdd qte in so instead of doing a weapon atk, you dont need it, you also seem to be overkilling near the end, try to end so a bit earlier if possible (idk your damage to help here unfortunately)
No
You need to use your ultimate for it to count
ok ty
Could also try dreamseeker. I wouldnât normally reccomend it but she has better arc damage iirc so she might let you skip a basic attacks ult sequence in part 1
And then if youâre over killing in part 2 damage might not be the problem
Not sure tho
Worth trying
ok ur right, I was overkilling, anything else I could do? ty btw
yeh ok hle score is much comfier
You could try dreamseeker, see if she saves you anything in part 1
Tbh im not sure, could check what people do in their refs but qt suggest earlier trying ds as well
ok, ty.
If I was considering getting Chenxue, would I need to get her SS/SSS or is S fine?
I donât have the income for that 
Ty
I'm currently playing Shicksal Imperative, lone dragon shadow chaser, and Valkyrie blast metal. Should I make Schicksal the DPS because she's the only one who I have the weapon for?
depends on boss+weather. shes good for qua
Yes
Weapon on DPS is huge
If itâs specifically fire or physical weather I guess you could consider lantern dps but in general youâre gonna be brute forcing things with simp
yeah^^^
Which is tough but unless you have more battlesuits youâre stuck with it
Ok thx
Np
What's the best lineup for current abyss?
luna simp ce, like I mentioned in honkai chat
I see
oh it's a sleep abyss
#đtechnical-help is a better place to ask about this
Thanks! I was looking for that.. It's not on the channel list for some reason
make sure that this arrow is down
Can I try Dominance team on this? Like HoRb on release because I'm about to use her.
its bleed not summon, try some sushang team variant
I see, though I missed it previously, and now Cruising Tribunal is back again so I want to do HoRb on it.
And I might keep your suggestions in mind.
different weather
you will get the type buff here but both the hitcount phase and the weather buff will be very disadvantageous
hitcount specifically will be awful
whats a good score to get in this abyss? in agony III
feels like its too slow the transition phases
are so long
anything i can adjust or do better?? Hle-ps-badum team did 660 a bit better but still feels bad
At the beginning still buff your ps before you clear the HC, even though Tribunal has a total damage reduction your damage isn't too bad and I could imagine that this would help your clear time a bit
- while badum WA links the enemies it's better to do her normal WA instead of the enhanced one and cancel the animation with her ult
So you'd do something like Qte -> WA -> ult -> ca
You need to deactivate one skill in her WA skills idk the exact name though. - the CA you did before the mech landed in p2 slowed him down made you lose a few points since he then landed later
- no need to do BAs after PS' stellar shift
- no need to do BAs after badum stellar shift
I could also imagine that you could already SO in P1 and farm some Ari during transition with heavenly links and badum Evas and generally focus a lot on heavenly links but this tactic sounds rather obscure and not needed for A3 since you still deal quite a bit of damage
I also still need to mald this boss a bit but be open to try other DPSs with PS as a support, just make sure bleed is always applied so that your DPS makes use of the weather buff
It's a bit sad that PS is type countered here so from my experience other DPSs are the same or even better than PS
alright gonna put all that into practise, and yeah unfortunatly hle is doing better as main dps then ps
really?
Yeah last time badum DPS outperformed ps for me
The important thing is just to have some form of consistent bleed application in the team
lol nerd

so what less awful team can i do for tribunal (red lotus)
what i have: https://tinyurl.com/Marestea-Inventory-HI3
don't wanna mald much because new year and whatever and im not gonna stay at home that long
but if there's a team i can ensure to retain with then i wanna try
otherwise ill sleep
what in the proffesional
hmm maybe youre interested in 25 screenshots? 
hle ps fdd?
You have ps 
someone said ps is type countered so using her as a sup is better or scores around the same
Wait is this nirv
red lotus u dingus
Why you calling me a dingus theres like 50 people im keeping track of
cconsiderable
Sorry for having higher expectations
bc its in the msg u dingus 
alr
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1vqSHB3EFy/ wat abt dis
ohh lemme check
do i need chen for the extra score đ
where the hell are you gonna get the extra sp and ari regen without herđ
yeah uh like i have her đ
this is rl tho we talking
it cant be that bad that i have to 2 SO surely
surely
sorry for calling u a nerd
lol nerd
im nirb so i cant reliable test i think
$5 i sell u my acc
deal
wow thx very helpful 
imma give it away to like idk water or smt
yea i heard hes bad he needs a good acc to git gud
watch as i diff everyone here and retain
hle fdd ps ss cx 660 on billy
hle fdd ps ss sonk got me 550
i think i can improve
this is the first time im using the fdd extend trauma skill lmfao
where hotr weapon and ranks
i have never had hotr up until now
cooekd
ngl kira shd clear
ask the kira simp to cook u a rot
i can only ult like 4 times or smt
nuh uh
nah our dist has risen since the âkira > htrâ days broski
yeah but my hotr is literally no weap s0 compared to 3s 4/4 kira
honestly try vita fdd lv thats probs ur best bet LMFAO
3ple breach LMFAO
watch as i cook
what score does lv end p1
jeez
I get a good p1 time with ps but the issue is charging so during transition if that is even possible
I mean its mostly damage

yeah nvm i deal like no dmg
I am overkilling p1
my shit luna team is unironically better
so it should be fine for s0
ok time for hle
can just add a ps ult at the end should be enough
ok i got a lower score but im dogshit
imma just have fun with luna
havent used her as a lead in forever
err im starting to consider sleeping on this cycle đ
just sleep
what does luna even score in RL
dont even got teri or any gacha op to 2SO
honestly this score can be very improvable, maybe if I optimise transition to take advantage of sparkle qte I can save 10-20 points
ooh goodie lets see if i get another -100 from the start of 8.6 if i dont get rita đ
main issue im facing is fdd
does anyone know if the mecha slamming its hands together in lp loa so regens ari as well
I havent paid attention to that ever
i do know it triggers stellar drain?
@cunning gull well here's what I can tell you
you can expect to score 650+ with ps (take advantage of transition to charge up ari) (I got 674 with tfm from a mock run, 663 with fws in a decently optimised run)
PS FDD + TFM/FWS are good teams, fws makes the transition easier since her qte damage also generates ari unlike sparkle who kills the wave before her qte lands
lp sucks dont use her
I sent earlier a video of p1 with ps using tfm, if you have enough damage with fws, id go with fws as 3rd slot to avoid balding
oo
alright thank uuu
i lost hope already but ill try, hoping that this bracket is extra slack or dont have enough lv havers to try
ill just check the doc actually
yes thank u
eh 650 sounds a bit unrealistic for DS
wait no teri?
yes
Hello, can i have some help about something?
go on
I really should check what people have first LOL
dont ask to ask, just ask
idk, maybe 
I dont know how it's called in English Let me search
not an excuse check ur connection 
my connection works
I literally have 20 other tabs working
wtvr ok
what aos do you have
try refeshing ig
or diff browser ig
but so u dont have an excuse ill ss the sheet itself
It's about the "superstructure dimension " (i think it's called like that :/ ? ) and about the perturbation, how dors it's work? I have 411 of perturbation and some time i have like 480
holy shit why is luna ce kira doing better
oh wait its bc of ss luner
@hearty yacht
this?
Yes
@vale seal
good luck with translating it
higher number = tankier mobs + mobs deal more damage
It's okay i did understand
which is why I didnt want to send the faq yet
explain to him a basic detail that is easy to translate instead of a mega wall of text
but works out
so all's well ends well
nnoe
Yeah i know that but how can we low down the dis turban ce?
you cant, u have to rank down
Are there scores you've got with SS Teri or smth
u cant control it directly
S teri
ranking down lowers your rewards though
you cant, it goes up and down depends on how hoyo feels, if you want to be in a lower disturbance bracket then you need to go down a rank
I dont have SS
i refuse to believe dist goes up and down based on score
I lowered my ps damage and disabled the ultimate evasion to match s0 tho
well too bad
Aaanw maaaan :((( i don't wanna rank down, i was Lotus before :(( now i don't see my progress :/
well sometimes you have to rank down to prepare for the higher rank
that's the progress
you dont need to rank down, you just need to know how to improve so you can handle higher disturbance
Yeah... â˘Ě︿â˘Ě
How does disabling UE help
Can anyone go through these comments and debunk it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/honkaiimpact3/s/YOGCHZB8pE
thaaank you
Yeah
yeah you can also try improving your run
@cunning gull i'd try fws/fdd/ps thats what work best with me got around 630 with a semi optimized rot ig that sounds realisic maybe even 640 idk ps just does not do it for me the TC really is the dealbreaker
sometimes the reason you're suffering is because of you not knowing what to do or who to use
I just said to match s0, for all I know I might get a secret +1 somewhere from it idfk
definitely ask us again if you dont know
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what to debunk
but I did lower my damage a bit through support gear and gene limit
the comments boils down to: "oh my god bro its super hard and its not worth it, only do it when you're like super super ready"
- I was overkilling, so the extra damage doesnt seem relevant outside of phase 2
need to redo it since no teri tho
also holy shit an actually good hi3 redditor
The world is healing
him saying nirb is not impossible is already a mega plus
the trees are growing
the edit to clarify makes it funnier
the ice caps stopped melting
yeah lmao
Problem is everyone is saying not to breakthrough and first focus on building teams and the crystals loss is not that much
that's reddit for you
its on him atp, trust a serious message or someone calling you brocado
I have a question
And you still will

what?
wha
Wrong kind of server xdd
i uh
Actually hold on can he get nuked now?
That's not #đŽhonkai-chat territory either xdd
what rule this one
all of the above
i think its bc of degen message
Technically
Theresa is kinda under rule 4 so
I feel violated and harassed
Are you still #1 paws hater
always will be
that message alone is enough for atleast 5 years of house arrest
Man I was surprised that crystal income diff isnât that much
its still better to breakthrough bc of all the stuffs you get anyways
I mean it shouldnt be surprising, its a 80 crystal difference per abyss from a3 to rl
yeah kek also you can always just camp a3
Ok dumb question how
its a snooze fes in a3
Uh considering the casuals idk man
The casuals you're talking about wouldn't be in Masters RL either
if they're that casual then they aint in masters rl
well if the main concern is rewards such as crystals, you get a marginally good amount more than not breaking through and considering patches are longer, you are also ending up with more crystals
the only reason you wouldnt break through is if you are casual as teammate said
and those people do not give a shit about crystals/meta
The game matches the Abyss tiers pretty well after breakthrough actually
i mean masters camping isnt that bad i suppose, its just boring as hell
RL -> A3
Agony -> A2
Sinful -> A1?
you do nothing there
Some peeps just wanna collect waifus
masters agony was 360 crystals right
Especially @hearty yacht the 10+ gacha game players
Who is the tallest honkai?
ches is not that ass
no what the fuck
- Wdym by that exactly
- Sounds more like a #đhonkai-lore question
i was in ago between 6.7 and 6.9 and that was bc i just returned with 0/4 da
oh so this is just plain wrong lol
my progression was like the same as awa but then i immediately got left in the dust bc he spends like 50 hours a day playing hi3
idt there's a rewards for clearing it in 120 secs other than promoting
unless i'm totally wrong
i dont have a lvl 80 account to check either
me neither
@narrow cedar did you break through alr
https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiImpact/comments/1365srz/ok_so_for_some_reason_i_always_get_stuck_at_agony/ does the img in the link help?
yes a lot actually lmao so it's 360

tbf the 360 is bound to the condition that you rank up
so its 20 crystals more than a2
ig 260 is if you're just retaining
then why did it put 240 for the elites 
rl one is 420 like the wiki and a ss i found, so its weird that agony is different
follows the same logic, if you get all of the 320 crystals from elites agony you'd promo to elite RL but if you only retain you get 240
the spreadsheet is assuming that you always stay in that excact rank without ranking up
80 x 4 = 320


darius is on vacation
i slacked so hard i broke through at like 40 days
Question... Does the Love Elf event stays in the game after the update ends?
You mean in Voyage Log? Yes
But you'll miss out on the limited rewards and the shop currency
PS can score okay ish
Especially with Teri
PS Sporkle FDD prolly
fws > tfm if enough damage from what I tried
even though I scored higher with tfm... but that's prolly cuz ss
prob a dumb question but does excess bp exp i get from today carry over to the new patch? and if so is there a cap? i completely forgot
why sparkle?
Ult reset and not type countered. Itâs not gonna be a huge difference, FWS probably scores close
worth noting that with sparkle, if you want to farm ari during transition you need to time your qte so the last hit happens after the mechas run past you
unlike fws who can just insta qte and hitting mechs with empowered skill/hold atk is easy
in ER, the eden buff really makes some units play a lot more smoother. . .

hm it's only the cap
but irrc its also the level
bruh
i just need to read
lmao
Many such cases
starting sp signet?
i mean the buff. . . but yea. as a starting signet, its very good too, since it increases you max SP, so every time you spend SP, it negates the SP spent, therefore you still get a lot of buffs. . .
yes, but for units like DA, its kinda not enough. the eden + kevin buff basically removes the problem of DA spamming burst. for example.
and since she spams burst, the buff just gives additional SP everytime, so the signet is always active.
no im lv62 i play eu abyss maybe once a week so im super slow
any one got any apho 2 build ?
(already answered in the other channel)
My LV is missing her T stig but I do have 4/4 simp and 4/4 Eden (and SS hotr in case I should do that instead of Eden). Is there anything else I should try though?
i'm assuming you're talking about tribunal abyss
you can consider PS i guess since she is also bleed but being type countered prob doesn't help. I'm not even sure if she can interact with the hitcounts for this fight.
Otherwise try LV. ScI and CE are prob preferred if you have them geared but the other things you mentioned are potent too. One important thing you didn't tell us is how ranked is your LV
LV is quite old now and there's been numerous ways to rank her up so we don't expect her at s0 anymore for the competition
also what abyss tier
if this is for RL, then maybe refer to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amqYCXesFDE&list=PL7PX42EmQabYPbQYt78KXyNOzq5BUN41T&index=3
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02:20 Eden 744
04:59 Stat
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1auJx5iDbE i guess i'll link this too but p2 damage proportion and actions are not that different from the above lol
what a piece of shit
Old run: https://youtu.be/eXAWLQR232c?si=WTsDN7uOudtFNDgb
This transition strategy worked for me. Can get some more SP if Luna gets an ultimate evasion after her combo attack at 1:39 but this one is kind of random. Can also get more if Theresa gets more evades before going to sleep at 1:48. Theresa cannot kill the Padrin...
ScI is fully geared but not CE. LV is S but I can rank her up to s2. Tier is Nirv D549
this sounds very uphill to compete against
i overall don't think we can expect much but i'm trying to find some ref with PS in it for now
I loosely expect standard LV ranks would be more like SS by now
I'm just looking to retain. I can't beat stardust anymore and the schedule is very stardust-filled pretty soon, so I want to avoid getting those in RL stages.
and full gear with CE of course
yeah i mean that for nirv retain
but anyway let's see for now. LV is also an old valk and there are older players who have quit
so sometimes you might have a bracket with enough players lacking older stuff too
quick search of PS in nirv tier gave me this https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1tU2xBBEZK/ but the score is quite low. Prob not retain-able and it uses HLE anyway who you don't have.
the transition for this version of the boss is quite notorious so at least give that a look for ideas for your own runs
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1X3StBpE79/ 557D 528 PS Vita FDD
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1vqSHB3EFy/ 557D 517 PS, FDD, S2 Vita
Obviously worse but different player. i didn't check if their transition is different which may be worth noting from.
aside from transition, these videos can give you ideas of how to handle hitcounts too
Anyway as per usual, i can only recommend exploring and exhausting all avenues on your own. Can briskly get a rough idea from p1 of the fight rather than doing the whole fight (unless outburst cycles with a p2 team end up awkward)
But on the other hand I think both sides are too far from ideal that you may not want to expend too much effort trying too much.
I see, thank you very much for all the options
Sorry I couldn't help more but hope something comes out of it
HoTr or HoHe? I know some pin said to wait for info to come out but have we gotten any info?
the main thing to take note are properties of the upcoming Rita
notably rita is imaginary lightning which overlaps completely with HoO and partially with HoFi, which may eclipse some of HoTr's use cases
i think i did briefly update the pin with that consideration already though
maybe brisk through the #đŽcn-gameplay-discussion pins one more time to make sure you're not missing anything else but i don't recall anything else notable
as the pin heavily described, any actual decisions will highly depend on factors of your own account and there isn't really a general default. You'll need to elaborate more on your end of things for me to help you further
well i need to go now but i would mostly be parroting from the pin anyway unless you have a very middle case. Feel free to elaborate and other people can still help though
this is sonk aop?
Yes, but that's SEA server it looks like
Should be a lot higher in EU
Like 630 if I had to guess?
Maybe 640
idr what I got with DS alr
idk if i wanna be that optimistic since ill do ds
and my atk is def lower than em
only 2 lv players in the bracket out of 7 players that did all stages, maybe not doomed yet 
Most of the peeps that have LV are either in Nirv or have quit the game
good
let the case with the recent phy kevin boss happen again
where almost everyone in my bracket played ps lead
will there be a rerun for PS next patch? and is she still good even she is 3 patch behind now
is benares a must for hoo against this ma boss
so far we don't know if she's rerunning and no she's not worth pulling at this point
She is not good enough and what we know about reruns is pinned in #đŽcn-gameplay-discussion
no reason to pull old stuff when you cant even get everything new
hohe or hotr? New account and planning to pull for rita
there's a guide in #đśbeginner-help pins
Someone told me that this is gonna be a pain in the butt
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team's PS LP FDD S Teri
not bad considering that ps is type countered
Much nicer than my score, Teri + atk diff prolly
yeah
Thanks. I didn't get to read the message until later. But I meant the event "With You! Youthful Dreams"
Actually, if anyone knows do let me know.
same thing that teammate said
Anyone got the horb love ely vita rotation?
a bit scuffed but good enough
Pretty sure that team is covered in HoRbs tutorial, just know that rotations are always flexible and change depending on the situation so it's best to actually understand what each action does instead of following a rotation blindly
There might be a good chunk left you can get considering we're more than 10 dist less from these
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1W8StBgE82/ 527D 657 HLE S2.FDD PS SS.CX
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1WqS1BbECi 522D 672 HLE PS FDD SS.CX?
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV113SyB4Een?p=2&spm_id_from=333.788 527D 651 PS SS.LP FDD SS.TeriOp
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV113SyB4Een 527D 645 FWS PS FDD SS.TeriOp
There seems to be quite a bit more but i'm too lazy to check them all https://search.bilibili.com/all?vt=16275188&keyword=塥čŞĺŽĄĺ¤ĺ˘+ć+红č˛&order=pubdate
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reinbex's server in the pins prob has more too
@hardy moat
They used FWS instead of HLE but that's all the more opportunity to learn how each valk and their actions break down to be.
If you're not aware, most astral ring valks have their primary team buff on their 3pc stig effect https://i.imgur.com/faAxZig.png
Loosely speaking you can generally substitute FWS' actions with whatever that HLE wants you to do here
Vita is exceptional in that she mainly buffs from her ult, so don't take the 3pc as an absolute rule.
Overall very generally speaking, set up support effects first > dps until they expire > repeat
As Mango said, don't be so rigid with learning a rotation. Optimizing in HI3 often needs fine adjustments (adding or removing attacks, deviating from a basic rot) or even very different sequences that aren't repeated at all.
when is the next supply shop reset if i may ask?
uh does #đŽcn-gameplay-discussion pins say anything? If not then idk
oh sorry
We sadly do not have any info on that and hoyo also does not seem to follow a specific pattern with it, the only thing we know is that the next patch won't add any new stamps
nothing to apologize for. That sort of question is ok
if it's any actual new content (character, enemies, gamemodes) then anything not known in glb yet should be spoiler tagged here
any story content are flat out not allowed here, new or old
and of course any leaks are highly forbidden (even vaguely confirming leaks of upcoming content exists will get you in trouble)
if you're not sure what's a leak, then check the cn channel pins. Anything mentioned there is ok to bring up.
When the new patch start?
got it
Damn itâs been more than 6m since the last time I was in the game
although i heard at first there were inaccuracies/changes to previous norms recently. Not sure if that's been fixed already
oh right the reroll device boxes dont get reset they just add more
normally we expect maint after abyss ends but apparently now it's a day earlier?
Yeah they moved the maint a day forward
Is HoS, Coralie and Reign Solaris ok
reign solaris as leader and ither two for support, kind of new to this entire astral ring thingy
What Coralie?
yes
And HoS doesn't work since she is not an astral ring valk
Coralie has multiple battlesuits are we talking about FDD or VBm
VBm can work as cope support
Both HoS and RS can support physical P1 teams but HoS offers nothing for RS if RS is the leader
Kind of just used this as my form of reference
Yes that is the P1 team
but is. HoS not good for Solaris then?
I canât get the meta aupport for solaris n just came up with these two as last resort
not good for Solaris Dps no
but doesnr HoS impair enemies which is great
also debuffs
Solaris already has built in impair on her 3pc stigmata
all p2 phys valks have this too
HoS won't do much for her
when will the next p2 support come out like vita
every p2 gacha s rank is a dps/support hybrid
Solaris wants teammates with the heavenly shift support tag
i think Rita has the tag
starting to think this shit is not possible with SS0 HoO
my benares is even affixed for blade
I even HoO ult at :59 in p1
nevermind I'm just fucking dogshit at the game
wao
@mint plover where r u
:(
I'm SS0
is it hfi dkey issue lol
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yeah its hfi dkey issue then
you should be able to get -1 tho I'd think if u do HoO eva as well in p2
ur p1 is run issue
you should finish on early :58 with no issues
yeah i know
i just dont care rn since i cant kill anyways

thats a whale for you
me smoll


should have done the same
mf almost getting it with wrong stigs*
fair point
ur dmg looks exactly like mine until p2 ult and it just entirely flops
my bena afix goated
HAHA RIP
I reaffixed and gained 50 atk and the difference was like this much
f
I wouldn't waste affixes on this tbh
rita tomorrow
(I wasted affixes on this but thats besides the point I actualy got +1 from it)
im just using ncc
i had like 30k
@lament prairie fuck u can kill with just 20 more atk
30k is one stig
which qte
ah wait wasnt kiaelf the one we are suposed to use?
wuh
let me see
oh wait let me do powered duo first or im gonna forget abt it
im almost done

mf malding the wrong leaderboard
ughh HLE and peachy spring HoH look fucking identical
I keep selecting the wrong ely
oh that explains how ur dmg isn't so different to mine then
I didn't even notice kiana until you mentioned p1 qte
ooh yikes yeah you have to trigger eden qte with hofi wep?
thats rough af
yeah thats terrible lol
are we using jst over turg for some reason?

wasnt turg better?
imma try just to check
maybe with some luck Xd
lamo
i checked and im missing a lot more even with same dmg p1
person using turg has sinc 1 hfi tho
and ss1 hoo
klein tho
4s is still a long time in honkai terms
surely ppm will be up anyway
Yeah but its not that its really that much better somehow
ill lock what i have just now and well see tomorrow

maybe with rita its ezz gg

good enough i guess
all things considered 920 is very good yeah xd
ur so cooked in p1 by simply not having klein
thats instant -1
are u having to do eva in p2 or no
oh yeah def
just see last week's score
even @storm ocean was t100
I haven't cared about MA for months lmao I don't pay attention anymore
I have been summoned
I just saw that I had an opportunity for cap this week and decided to do it for once
LILEEEE
LYOOOOO
Me?
Jk jk yea I think I'll get her I absolutely HATE imaginary mobs
all I do differently to you is my p1 is as early as possible and p2 I hfi wep shortly after the lines turn red rather than waiting for the beam
yeah ofc
yeah im doing also that
Does Rita make this boss less ass
no, cause ill be doing aka
smh
12k and 29 pity left till S rank valk
20 left on weapon
Don't ask
no I will ask
Uhhh one rank for chenxue, one horb dkey...and pity building but I didn't get anything
OHHH wait
Badum weapon
Real
U do need her on that extremly specific boss that needs sd rime and breaking a sd shield thingy....
Definitely doable with Badum Fish HoHE
Nah yeah real talk that one will be suffering for people with no hle
By what can u do
just play rita if no klein
on flower
For rita team is sena very important? Ive seen a few videos with her in abyss so i was wondering by not having her am i cooked for abyss? Im redlotus btw , asking for advice
rl u be fine
Even in nirv Vita Thelema and Vita HLE should work
LV/SIMP/
If these are my best options, should 3rd slot be SS HoTR or SSS Eden?
i'd assume eden just because schi and HoTr would overwrite the breach from the the other one
3/4
yeah idk if that beats GD, might try both, but GD should work fine
u still have time after maint
how much time?
idk but its like going to last 4 hrs or something iirc
so after maint still another couple hrs

im gonna need to do abyss at 2am then

this is one of the times when i wish we could change servers

irrc like 7 hours left after maint
yeah, like 2am 
is rita out on the chinese servers?
she's been out in CN for quite a while already, and she'll release on global in a few hours
oh alr ty
Nope I don't!!! Hahaha! Hahaha!!!
How bad is it to skip new rita
I don't have mini dudu, sparkle and minni Theresa
15k crystals
I have an SS trio
But the global anni/cn new year patch is here soon
4/4?
Yup
Tbh with that crystal count pulling her does not really sound like a wise idea especially with CNY coming up, for how bad it is, trio can perform rather solid on her bosses if properly ranked. Ofc Rita still top scores though. The other thing about her is that she's a really solid WoD support and that is also where a portion of her shill lies so you'll also miss out on those but depending on your rank you should be able to substitute her with other supports
15k is just a really rough amount of crystals and I can't really justify going all out for Rita knowing that a patch with a usually strong valk is ahead
Yea that makes sense
I have like 60 days left on my monthly and could save up to go all out for the anniversary
Thanks ill probably still do the discount pull but thats it
wtf
the update was today??
why'd they change it smfh
shits always on thurs and now its on a wed
oh makes sense then
man thats perfect maybe rita can save my abyss










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