#💁gameplay-help

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thick aspen
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if your attack is high it can be slight damage increase to get a couple crit dmg lines instead of full atk

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crit rate never though, thats useless

open bone
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And if you aren’t bleed

elfin parrot
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!faq affix

night parcelBOT
# elfin parrot !faq affix
Everything you need to know about Affixes

Hello, Captain! AichanWave

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the in-depth Affixing guide!

Overall, you should only affix Best-in-Slot Stigmata and generally aim to get as much Atk as possible on your DPS Valkyries first. Ensure that the Battlesuit/Weapon Type matches what the Affix line demands otherwise the Atk will not apply.

Remember only Physical Damage can crit, and "crit ratios" do not apply to Honkai Impact 3rd.

gray magnet
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Any references for no dudu abyss?

open bone
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With paws dps?

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you can also do intro with evade evade basics instantly after second evade and I found that was easier to get the same timing

pale musk
open bone
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you should be able to just kill before buffs run out

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it'll save you like 20 pts

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afte the transition there's no reason to delay the SO much you can sjust do it instantly nobody will stop you

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that way you will do more of your SO dps in debuffed state

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and then instead of enhanced WA ult with fdd, do combo attack with RS

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so you reup stun

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if you aren't quite there on damage

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so yeah, just do P1 with helia, switch to RS in transition so you have your instant combo, go paws and SO right after

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should work

pale musk
# open bone stay in on helia in part 1

Can you define that further? Cause it sounds like either you want me to skip all buffs (skip using RS and fdd in intro) or skip fdd and RS refresh of buffs near the end of p1. If it’s the latter I’m still confused cause Fdd’s buffs run out at the end.

pale musk
open bone
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skip the refresh

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you still have a third of a bar left

open bone
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the way you are doing it now you are wasting all your stun buffs and might as well not be running RS for part 2 which is obviously gonna score badly

pale musk
# open bone The way it works is your first three ults will break the shield, allowing you to...

https://youtu.be/dlWFIm_78gY?si=Dur1TPvD8VmlaEPQ
I think I did better, I'm not sure what you meant by 'combo with RS though' so I just assumed the hold attack - you could have also meant the sequence she does with basic attacks if you tap atk when you qte (fills up her bar if it isn't already) but I kinda doubt it since it takes longer

spiral raven
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idk why u only ulted with dudu and didn't do ca

pale musk
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ult was more to bring in Helia as quickly as possible. I didn't consider the part about stun.

open bone
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yeah the combo I meant was combo attack to stun

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I think your SO is also a bit suboptimal, there's no need to do the extra basics in there idt but if you are I would WA ult with FDD so I could get an extra ult in there

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I expect skipping them for an early finisher into normal ult sequence out of SO does a bit better

spiral raven
pale musk
open bone
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So has more damage than non SO but ults have more damage than basics KianaShrug

pale musk
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ok fair

spiral raven
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just try both but first stun at p2 cuz for half the SO ur fighting him with 1 stack of debuff

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so do dudu ca ult then helia do stuff and ring then do what u were doing originally but cut out dudu ca, can do dudu ca again but if you do want to refresh stun, u prob want to do fdd qte first before it, but if still stunned when u swap to dudu then dont bother

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im thinking u straight up just kill if u did do the ca ult before SO then whatever without dudu ca, would kill in SO

hot viper
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hey yall, I just got back into the game after getting off, heard part 2 came out

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I think the last time I played was during the asuka updateish? I've got a good amount of xtals (at least 20k), any idea what banner I should pull on?

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or just general stuff to catch up

spiral raven
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just save

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but u prob have enough to pull for next upcoming valk+weap and the ones after

hot viper
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gotcha

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anything I should do if I want to pick up where I left off in the campaign?

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like finishing the rest of p1

open bone
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You’ll want to get to the start of part 2 sooner or later because it gives you VBM + wep for free and she’s there best free support for part 2

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But it’s not enormously urgent

astral void
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how do you skip hod transition?

open bone
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You mean at the very start?

astral void
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after the minion drop, HOO ults depletes the healthbar i saw a video where it skip the dodging minigame

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i can't replicate skipping the dodging part

spiral raven
elfin parrot
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yeah if you kill late then the boss will hop back and do the transition as per usual

also not related but keep in mind to pause as soon as you finish p1 to pick up sp packs

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@open bone apparently some damage controlling is necessary for getting the boss to not stall after mobs. You can't deal more than 180k to the puppets with HFS ult

open bone
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huh

spiral raven
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well u just need hofs exit to kill, so whatever taht exact dmg is

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its around 180k yeah but iirc i seen someone be around that

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and still do it

arctic birch
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because of lunar vow next vers, im assuming its following the other free battlesuits and she will have dlc equipment in the near future so is it worth bagging her og weap or nah and save crystals for pt2 lunar?

elfin parrot
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we have no confirmation of that so i can't really recommend banking on any assumptions.

I do think there are grounds to be wary of the possibility. Currently as is, LV uses are niche anyway so you may consider just forgoing current gear. Maybe focus more on ranks if you can spare the resources.

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Although do note LV weapon is notable for allowing her to apply bleed with her bat off field so it might have utility that way. This was made used of back when Vita was used against bleed HoS but that is quite obsoleted now

arctic birch
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ohh okay tysm!!! i might just grab her current weap then

elfin parrot
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on the note of crystallums, how much do you have? Have you bought all other divine keys yet?

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!faq crystallum

night parcelBOT
# elfin parrot !faq crystallum
Immutable Crystallums

Hey there, Captain! AichanBlink

Crystallums are a Battle Pass Currency that can be exchanged for Valkyries and Equipment in the Reserve Works. Captains who purchase Knight or Paladin BP can also access the BP Works of that patch for 3 versions.

There are 3 BP tiers offering different amounts of Crystallums as follows:
-# The totals below account for the 2 Crystallums in the Dorm Shop.

  • Vanguard (F2P) BP: 5 per patch
  • Knight BP: 18 per patch
  • Paladin BP: 24 per patch

It is recommended to spend your Crystallums on Divine Keys that you have yet to collect for permanent account-wide ATK bonuses. See the list [here](#👶beginner-help message).

elfin parrot
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you may consider prioritizing these instead if you haven't yet but are meta focused

elfin parrot
# elfin parrot Although do note LV weapon is notable for allowing her to apply bleed with her b...

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but again this is currently obsoleted utility and has no current use atm

arctic birch
elfin parrot
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so at this point getting LV's weapon is only for any possible dps cycle she may still have left (bleed tribunal? etc)

if you don't already have lv built then beware other competing veteran players already have her geared, with her teammates, and herself ranked up too. It's too much to catch up on arguably metawise at this point

arctic birch
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yeah thats all good, im not big on competing or meta i just want whoevers cool and building on from there if that makes sense

elfin parrot
arctic birch
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ohh okay! thats abit of a positive and makes me feel better

elfin parrot
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anything further you may want to learn about LV's current state? Edit: Current teams? Rank effects?

elfin parrot
arctic birch
arctic birch
elfin parrot
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meta wise i wouldn't recommend it overall

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but you clearly expressed sentimental value from it

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so it's more up to you esp if you can spare it

arctic birch
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yeah ive wanted her since her release

arctic birch
elfin parrot
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just be mindful what else you can be spending crystallums on esp if you plan to continue buying bp

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keep in mind of the release order for a vague idea of what may come next. Check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins if you haven't yet to see what next patch's bp is like

arctic birch
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thank you!!

flat rain
open bone
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That should be fine for A3 this week. RL prolly not tho

flat rain
flat rain
weak drum
open bone
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Paws HLE VBM later today

weak drum
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kira is only S so rc is better actually

open bone
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next abyss luna shill

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is rc better than CE, idk luna stuff

weak drum
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actually his ce is only s

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rc wins again

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gotta be ss+ to actually have a comprehensible run

open bone
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ic

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could also run vbm her generic buffs are solid

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especially if tsiol but no good rc stigs

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I think she even has bleed buffs but idk where on the kit so maybe useless

delicate venture
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What does an initial helia rotation with both coralie and SSS chenxue look like? I've tried a couple things around but nothing feels like it's sticking

rare iris
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Coralie as in fdd?

open bone
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Both coralie I think means FDD VBM

rare iris
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Yeah but should specify which battlesuit instead of the actual char name

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Tho SSS Chenxue should assume SSS fdd as stated

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Hmm

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I should assume the person is in nirv, ranked teams can clear p1 without AO

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Save AO in p2

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Otherwise, it's mostly gated by 2nd SO CD and a bit of rolling for boss moveset with lesser hitlag mald

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In p2

delicate venture
rare iris
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My mind actually auto'd to think they were asking about current abyss cycle rot

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Pepega

delicate venture
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No, I just haven't been able to work out a starting rotation since FDD release for them, the rest after the initial is fine, just not the initial. Also not a nirv player.

polar stream
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guys every time i want to download the game on my pc the page that is supposed to start the downloading doesnt open

hearty yacht
weak drum
hearty yacht
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still a good suggestion ches

dusky mantle
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I love slaccing

quaint saffron
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but, i retain. Yippieee-

This is my first time retaining on Nirvana, cuz usually, i am stepping down to RL after Nirvana- XD

mint plover
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@hearty yacht @sleek imp me dalao yet?

hearty yacht
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very dalao unlike ratlao asawhel

sleek imp
sleek imp
mint plover
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i only have reff for vita

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but is hell mald

hollow berry
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Does anyone know how to fix this stuck in Thelema Quest? I tried both of my devices and yet this still happen

lament prairie
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am I stupid does HLE not have growth up in ER?

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is it not the whole patch?

craggy plume
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She definitely has growth when I check in game.

lament prairie
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oh she does

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I thought it showed in other menus too

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anyone got a PAWS FDD RS ref btw bili is dumb as fuck and keeps giving me old HoS refs

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nvm

lament prairie
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is 770 ass

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SS chenchen idk what to do lol

hearty yacht
lament prairie
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yeah

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wtf margrave is back in meta

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lets fucking go

hearty yacht
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770 is good then, can probably get closer to 780+ with a more optimised rot

formal wigeon
dusky mantle
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Omg ER

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Speedrun time

lament prairie
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(its not mandatory but still nice to see)

formal wigeon
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nowayge

lament prairie
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lots of people using shit like aslaug or literally just hfs full set if their hoo has enough dmg

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or just marg mb instead of full set

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I just copied what euphie and asaphie were using lmao

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aghghg whats the 2nd best option on vita?

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everyone using fws

lapis raven
lapis raven
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use hle fdd paw

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wait no u hv sparkle

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run ps fdd spark

vocal coral
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for vita: sea's Depths SSS , waht team can i go with?
only got weopens of part 2:
HoF divine key
HoH divine key
Helia Signiture

lament prairie
lapis raven
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eopri isnt even maxpri bro

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and finally my forging of aslaug has finally paid off

full trench
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are there any refs without rs

scenic trellis
normal cloak
spiral raven
lament prairie
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LMAOO

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ss2 whel

spiral raven
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f2p

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just get it from pwo

finite barn
tranquil jasper
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Best team if I got no QUA valkyrie?

finite barn
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are there any refs for the current abyss boss using ds i found this ref using chenxue that says you can add an extra paws weapon to make up for the lack of sp but thats not nearly enough i enter the second paws turn with like. 600 sp

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unless this is another thing that paws weapon does and im just screwed without it

finite barn
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im running paws badum dudu

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i do have fdd if that helps

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but as mentioned i do not have paws weapon

open bone
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If you don’t have paws wep you need an extra recharge in SO

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Pretty sure

finite barn
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ugh paws weapon gives more sp? annoying

open bone
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So you’ll need to do, like, Badum WA, paws x3 combo, Badum ult, Dudu ca ult, paws x3 combo

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But if you don’t have paws wep might be better off with HLE dps

finite barn
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yeah i dont have time for a badum wa before the SO runs out

open bone
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You should definitely have time for it

finite barn
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definitely dont

open bone
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What are you spending your time on

finite barn
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Aight abyss time! Flying fish but with different weather, same stage though nothing changed.

Stage is not that hard, RS is necesary as she's the only stun in p2 valks & symbiosis team. As for lead, there's PAWS & HLE only, HLE one is kinda scuffed, tried with FDD/RS and scored 745 so it's not that bad, but for good score there's only PAWS with...

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open bone
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You should be able to do it with lots of time to spare

finite barn
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well theres not enough time for both badum WA and paws WA

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if i dont do badum WA i enter second paws phase with like 600 sp

open bone
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Yeah that’s not optimized for you.

finite barn
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if i do badum WA i enter second paws phase with like 800 sp

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i mean ive tried like. not outbursting until the transition phase is done and its like. fine? idk

open bone
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Yeah

finite barn
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but im trying to do better rn

open bone
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You don’t have anywhere near the damage to waste half your SO like that

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Also again if you have HLE + wep prolly better

finite barn
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cause theres like 5 people who havent played yet and im 6th and thats scary

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does hle work the same as paws here

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just substitute hle stuff for paws stuff

finite barn
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cleanup phase after is cleanup phase after no matter the problem is the sp

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its not like i can kill the boss in one SO if i SO after transition either

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my problem is like. lining up the big damage to the good for damage windows

open bone
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I was thinking you could paws ult ult, then Badum wa ult, Dudu CA ult, paws ult ult ult combo finisher

finite barn
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yeah thats what i do if i SO after transition the problem there is that most of my damage lands outside of the vulnerability or whatever that thing is called

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idk

open bone
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To refresh it

finite barn
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i am doing dudu combo tho

open bone
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Then why is debuff running out

finite barn
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fuck if i know

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imma try hle

open bone
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I think the answer is that you gotta not be doing it in SO but fucked if I know what you’re doing instead

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And yeah sounds better

finite barn
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oh hle doesnt gather... uhhh

open bone
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Badum can gather for you

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Or PS

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Also she has a little gather

vernal terrace
pale musk
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I need to get higher than 750 to get higher than 9th, any tips? It's 4 star Kiana ELF and S2 Helia.

finite barn
dapper nimbus
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guys does using SO counts as using the ultimate for the deliverance signets on ER?

hearty yacht
hearty yacht
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You need to use your ultimate for it to count

dapper nimbus
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ok ty

open bone
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Could also try dreamseeker. I wouldn’t normally reccomend it but she has better arc damage iirc so she might let you skip a basic attacks ult sequence in part 1

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And then if you’re over killing in part 2 damage might not be the problem

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Not sure tho

hearty yacht
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Worth trying

pale musk
finite barn
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yeh ok hle score is much comfier

open bone
hearty yacht
pale musk
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ok, ty.

pale musk
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If I was considering getting Chenxue, would I need to get her SS/SSS or is S fine?

full trench
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ss minimum

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s is no ari refund no sp less damage

pale musk
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I don’t have the income for that Dorysia
Ty

onyx swallow
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I'm currently playing Shicksal Imperative, lone dragon shadow chaser, and Valkyrie blast metal. Should I make Schicksal the DPS because she's the only one who I have the weapon for?

proud flower
open bone
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Weapon on DPS is huge

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If it’s specifically fire or physical weather I guess you could consider lantern dps but in general you’re gonna be brute forcing things with simp

proud flower
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yeah^^^

open bone
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Which is tough but unless you have more battlesuits you’re stuck with it

onyx swallow
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Ok thx

open bone
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Np

gray magnet
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What's the best lineup for current abyss?

open bone
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luna simp ce, like I mentioned in honkai chat

dusky mantle
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I see

edgy hamlet
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oh it's a sleep abyss

crude cloak
keen field
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Thanks! I was looking for that.. It's not on the channel list for some reason

weak drum
rough haven
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Can I try Dominance team on this? Like HoRb on release because I'm about to use her.

last rapids
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its bleed not summon, try some sushang team variant

rough haven
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And I might keep your suggestions in mind.

last rapids
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different weather

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you will get the type buff here but both the hitcount phase and the weather buff will be very disadvantageous

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hitcount specifically will be awful

scenic trellis
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whats a good score to get in this abyss? in agony III

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feels like its too slow the transition phases

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are so long

scenic trellis
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anything i can adjust or do better?? Hle-ps-badum team did 660 a bit better but still feels bad

half hatch
# scenic trellis anything i can adjust or do better?? Hle-ps-badum team did 660 a bit better but ...

At the beginning still buff your ps before you clear the HC, even though Tribunal has a total damage reduction your damage isn't too bad and I could imagine that this would help your clear time a bit

  • while badum WA links the enemies it's better to do her normal WA instead of the enhanced one and cancel the animation with her ult
    So you'd do something like Qte -> WA -> ult -> ca
    You need to deactivate one skill in her WA skills idk the exact name though.
  • the CA you did before the mech landed in p2 slowed him down made you lose a few points since he then landed later
  • no need to do BAs after PS' stellar shift
  • no need to do BAs after badum stellar shift
    I could also imagine that you could already SO in P1 and farm some Ari during transition with heavenly links and badum Evas and generally focus a lot on heavenly links but this tactic sounds rather obscure and not needed for A3 since you still deal quite a bit of damage
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I also still need to mald this boss a bit but be open to try other DPSs with PS as a support, just make sure bleed is always applied so that your DPS makes use of the weather buff

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It's a bit sad that PS is type countered here so from my experience other DPSs are the same or even better than PS

scenic trellis
dusky mantle
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I see

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No PS/simp. And no LV or CE gear.

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Slacc time?

dusky mantle
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Surely zhenyi cez B can cope

half hatch
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The important thing is just to have some form of consistent bleed application in the team

half hatch
cunning gull
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so what less awful team can i do for tribunal (red lotus)
what i have: https://tinyurl.com/Marestea-Inventory-HI3
don't wanna mald much because new year and whatever and im not gonna stay at home that long
but if there's a team i can ensure to retain with then i wanna try
otherwise ill sleep

weak drum
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what in the proffesional

cunning gull
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hmm maybe youre interested in 25 screenshots? EinsteinSip

cunning gull
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lmao dw i wont send any

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srs tho tf do i do for tribunal

hearty yacht
weak drum
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someone said ps is type countered so using her as a sup is better or scores around the same

hearty yacht
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Wait is this nirv

cunning gull
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red lotus u dingus

hearty yacht
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Why you calling me a dingus theres like 50 people im keeping track of

cunning gull
hearty yacht
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Sorry for having higher expectations

cunning gull
hearty yacht
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Oh

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I'll test out ps

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Need to see myself

cunning gull
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alr

cunning gull
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ohh lemme check

weak drum
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hle ps fdd

cunning gull
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do i need chen for the extra score 😭

weak drum
cunning gull
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yeah uh like i have her 😭
this is rl tho we talking
it cant be that bad that i have to 2 SO surely

lapis raven
weak drum
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im nirb so i cant reliable test i thinkHoSHmm

lapis raven
weak drum
cunning gull
weak drum
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imma give it away to like idk water or smt

lapis raven
weak drum
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watch as i diff everyone here and retain

lapis raven
weak drum
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oh shit and die on img pig lmao

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yeah i need to demote asap nvm

lapis raven
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hle fdd ps ss sonk got me 550

lapis raven
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this is the first time im using the fdd extend trauma skill lmfao

hearty yacht
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where hotr weapon and ranks

weak drum
hearty yacht
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cooekd

lapis raven
weak drum
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probs true

lapis raven
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ask the kira simp to cook u a rot

weak drum
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i can only ult like 4 times or smt

weak drum
lapis raven
weak drum
lapis raven
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honestly try vita fdd lv thats probs ur best bet LMFAO

weak drum
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what the fuck

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WAIT HONESTLY YE

lapis raven
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3ple breach LMFAO

weak drum
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watch as i cook

lapis raven
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yea no thanks

hearty yacht
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what score does lv end p1

weak drum
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abit lower

hearty yacht
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jeez

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I get a good p1 time with ps but the issue is charging so during transition if that is even possible

half hatch
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wait right you have ss1 ps

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lmao

hearty yacht
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I mean its mostly damage

cunning gull
weak drum
hearty yacht
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I am overkilling p1

weak drum
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my shit luna team is unironically better

hearty yacht
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so it should be fine for s0

weak drum
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ok time for hle

hearty yacht
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honestly might use vita instead of fdd

hearty yacht
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can just add a ps ult at the end should be enough

weak drum
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ok i got a lower score but im dogshit

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imma just have fun with luna

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havent used her as a lead in forever

cunning gull
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err im starting to consider sleeping on this cycle 😭

weak drum
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just sleep

half hatch
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what does luna even score in RL

cunning gull
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dont even got teri or any gacha op to 2SO

half hatch
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cuz no way my bracket has good scores

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need some comparison lmao

cunning gull
hearty yacht
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honestly this score can be very improvable, maybe if I optimise transition to take advantage of sparkle qte I can save 10-20 points

cunning gull
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ooh goodie lets see if i get another -100 from the start of 8.6 if i dont get rita 😁

hearty yacht
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main issue im facing is fdd TeriRip does anyone know if the mecha slamming its hands together in lp loa so regens ari as well

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I havent paid attention to that ever

cunning gull
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i do know it triggers stellar drain?

hearty yacht
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perfect

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nvm lp is just so much dmg loss

weak drum
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524 les go

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throwing back to 7.1 ches is unreal

hearty yacht
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@cunning gull well here's what I can tell you
you can expect to score 650+ with ps (take advantage of transition to charge up ari) (I got 674 with tfm from a mock run, 663 with fws in a decently optimised run)
PS FDD + TFM/FWS are good teams, fws makes the transition easier since her qte damage also generates ari unlike sparkle who kills the wave before her qte lands

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lp sucks dont use her

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I sent earlier a video of p1 with ps using tfm, if you have enough damage with fws, id go with fws as 3rd slot to avoid balding

weak drum
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oo

hearty yacht
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need to try hle now

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do you have chenxue by any chance

cunning gull
hearty yacht
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ill just check the doc actually

cunning gull
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yes thank u

half hatch
hearty yacht
half hatch
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yes

vale seal
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Hello, can i have some help about something?

cunning gull
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go on

hearty yacht
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I really should check what people have first LOL

hearty yacht
cunning gull
vale seal
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I dont know how it's called in English Let me search

hearty yacht
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well I have an excuse now

cunning gull
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not an excuse check ur connection ThelemaPout

hearty yacht
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my connection works

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I literally have 20 other tabs working

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wtvr ok

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what aos do you have

cunning gull
#

try refeshing ig
or diff browser ig
but so u dont have an excuse ill ss the sheet itself

vale seal
#

It's about the "superstructure dimension " (i think it's called like that :/ ? ) and about the perturbation, how dors it's work? I have 411 of perturbation and some time i have like 480

weak drum
#

oh wait its bc of ss lunerDorysia

cunning gull
#

@hearty yacht

weak drum
vale seal
#

Yes

weak drum
#

@vale seal

vale seal
#

Yes

#

Thanks

hearty yacht
#

good luck with translating it

weak drum
#

nice faq, small clean clear tho

#

oh right not native

weak drum
vale seal
#

It's okay i did understand

hearty yacht
#

which is why I didnt want to send the faq yet LanternHeavyThoughts explain to him a basic detail that is easy to translate instead of a mega wall of text

#

but works out

#

so all's well ends well

weak drum
vale seal
cunning gull
crude cloak
cunning gull
#

u cant control it directly

hearty yacht
#

S teri

quasi pier
#

ranking down lowers your rewards though

weak drum
hearty yacht
#

I dont have SS

weak drum
#

i refuse to believe dist goes up and down based on score

hearty yacht
#

I lowered my ps damage and disabled the ultimate evasion to match s0 tho

hearty yacht
vale seal
#

Aaanw maaaan :((( i don't wanna rank down, i was Lotus before :(( now i don't see my progress :/

weak drum
#

that's the progress

cunning gull
vale seal
crude cloak
vernal bronze
weak drum
half hatch
#

@cunning gull i'd try fws/fdd/ps thats what work best with me got around 630 with a semi optimized rot ig that sounds realisic maybe even 640 idk ps just does not do it for me the TC really is the dealbreaker

vale seal
#

Thanks for all

weak drum
#

sometimes the reason you're suffering is because of you not knowing what to do or who to use

hearty yacht
weak drum
#

definitely ask us again if you dont know

half hatch
#

you still get bonkers atk bonus from ss1

vale seal
#

Love y'all (っ'-')╮=͟͟͞͞💌ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ່࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏 ♡

hearty yacht
#

im ss0

#

ik its basically the same shit

hearty yacht
#

but I did lower my damage a bit through support gear and gene limit

weak drum
#

the comments boils down to: "oh my god bro its super hard and its not worth it, only do it when you're like super super ready"

hearty yacht
#
  • I was overkilling, so the extra damage doesnt seem relevant outside of phase 2
#

need to redo it since no teri tho

weak drum
#

also holy shit an actually good hi3 redditor

crude cloak
weak drum
#

him saying nirb is not impossible is already a mega plus

weak drum
hearty yacht
weak drum
#

the ice caps stopped melting

weak drum
vernal bronze
# weak drum what to debunk

Problem is everyone is saying not to breakthrough and first focus on building teams and the crystals loss is not that much

half hatch
#

that's reddit for you

weak drum
swift ledge
#

I have a question

weak drum
#

what in the good timing

#

brocado and guacamole immediately appears

weak drum
#

and im still waiting Dorysia

vernal bronze
vernal bronze
weak drum
#

what?

quasi pier
#

wha

hearty yacht
crude cloak
#

Wrong kind of server xdd

hearty yacht
#

actually he might get nuked by mods there

weak drum
#

i uh

vernal bronze
#

Actually hold on can he get nuked now?

crude cloak
weak drum
#

what rule this one

hearty yacht
weak drum
vernal bronze
#

Technically
Theresa is kinda under rule 4 so

vernal bronze
weak drum
#

actually

#

like yeah

#

i physically shivered when i read whatever that is

hearty yacht
#

why

vernal bronze
hearty yacht
#

always will be

weak drum
#

that message alone is enough for atleast 5 years of house arrest

vernal bronze
#

Man I was surprised that crystal income diff isn’t that much

weak drum
#

its still better to breakthrough bc of all the stuffs you get anyways

hearty yacht
#

I mean it shouldnt be surprising, its a 80 crystal difference per abyss from a3 to rl

vernal bronze
#

Like

#

Does all the stuff you get really cancel out the difficulty increase?

hearty yacht
#

yes lol

#

otherwise people wouldnt breakthrough

weak drum
vernal bronze
weak drum
#

its a snooze fes in a3

vernal bronze
crude cloak
weak drum
hearty yacht
# vernal bronze Ok dumb question how

well if the main concern is rewards such as crystals, you get a marginally good amount more than not breaking through and considering patches are longer, you are also ending up with more crystals

#

the only reason you wouldnt break through is if you are casual as teammate said

#

and those people do not give a shit about crystals/meta

crude cloak
weak drum
#

i mean masters camping isnt that bad i suppose, its just boring as hell

crude cloak
#

RL -> A3
Agony -> A2
Sinful -> A1?

weak drum
#

you do nothing there

crude cloak
hearty yacht
#

masters agony was 360 crystals right

crude cloak
#

Especially @hearty yacht the 10+ gacha game players

swift ledge
#

Who is the tallest honkai?

weak drum
#

so true

#

asu has been in masters for liek 5 years

hearty yacht
#

?

#

ches werent you in agony for like a year straight

crude cloak
weak drum
half hatch
crude cloak
weak drum
#

i was in ago between 6.7 and 6.9 and that was bc i just returned with 0/4 da

hearty yacht
weak drum
#

my progression was like the same as awa but then i immediately got left in the dust bc he spends like 50 hours a day playing hi3

half hatch
#

idt there's a rewards for clearing it in 120 secs other than promoting

#

unless i'm totally wrong

#

i dont have a lvl 80 account to check either

hearty yacht
#

me neither

crude cloak
#

@narrow cedar did you break through alr

hearty yacht
#

IT IS 360

half hatch
#

yes a lot actually lmao so it's 360

cunning gull
half hatch
#

tbf the 360 is bound to the condition that you rank up

hearty yacht
#

so its 20 crystals more than a2

half hatch
#

ig 260 is if you're just retaining

hearty yacht
#

a2 is very easy to reach as well

#
  • that 20 can be made up for in ma
hearty yacht
cunning gull
# half hatch

rl one is 420 like the wiki and a ss i found, so its weird that agony is different

half hatch
#

the spreadsheet is assuming that you always stay in that excact rank without ranking up

hearty yacht
#

I mean elite agony is 240

#

which is including the 80 from 2m

half hatch
#

80 x 4 = 320

hearty yacht
#

-# oops

half hatch
vernal bronze
eager smelt
crude cloak
#

Wtf

#

An HI3 player having a life

mint plover
#

i didnt kick him for the 4 time just cause i recognized my name in there

full trench
#

i slacked so hard i broke through at like 40 days

mint plover
#

dont kick me wasnt nearly as efective as being named sencho's football

full wave
#

Question... Does the Love Elf event stays in the game after the update ends?

crude cloak
#

But you'll miss out on the limited rewards and the shop currency

stiff wigeon
#

Dont have lunar

#

Do i skip this abyss?

open bone
#

Especially with Teri

#

PS Sporkle FDD prolly

hearty yacht
#

even though I scored higher with tfm... but that's prolly cuz ss

foggy vapor
#

prob a dumb question but does excess bp exp i get from today carry over to the new patch? and if so is there a cap? i completely forgot

open bone
#

Only the last week carries over

#

And iirc only the weekly stuff

hearty yacht
#

does it?

#

I know people keep their weekly missions until patch drop

silk bison
open bone
hearty yacht
#

worth noting that with sparkle, if you want to farm ari during transition you need to time your qte so the last hit happens after the mechas run past you

#

unlike fws who can just insta qte and hitting mechs with empowered skill/hold atk is easy

plucky gust
#

in ER, the eden buff really makes some units play a lot more smoother. . .

half hatch
#

hm it's only the cap

#

but irrc its also the level

#

i just need to read

#

lmao

open bone
#

Many such cases

plucky gust
# hearty yacht starting sp signet?

i mean the buff. . . but yea. as a starting signet, its very good too, since it increases you max SP, so every time you spend SP, it negates the SP spent, therefore you still get a lot of buffs. . .

open bone
#

You can also just grab lightning empress

#

As a support

plucky gust
# open bone As a support

yes, but for units like DA, its kinda not enough. the eden + kevin buff basically removes the problem of DA spamming burst. for example.

and since she spams burst, the buff just gives additional SP everytime, so the signet is always active.

dusky mantle
#

Man

#

This abyss is killing me

narrow cedar
acoustic vortex
#

any one got any apho 2 build ?

elfin parrot
#

(already answered in the other channel)

pale musk
#

My LV is missing her T stig but I do have 4/4 simp and 4/4 Eden (and SS hotr in case I should do that instead of Eden). Is there anything else I should try though?

elfin parrot
#

i'm assuming you're talking about tribunal abyss

you can consider PS i guess since she is also bleed but being type countered prob doesn't help. I'm not even sure if she can interact with the hitcounts for this fight.

Otherwise try LV. ScI and CE are prob preferred if you have them geared but the other things you mentioned are potent too. One important thing you didn't tell us is how ranked is your LV

#

LV is quite old now and there's been numerous ways to rank her up so we don't expect her at s0 anymore for the competition

#

also what abyss tier

#

Honkai Impact 3rd

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Discord: nvta.fake hoạc hieulehonkai
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00:00 Griseo (CE) 780
02:20 Eden 744
04:59 Stat

Trở thành hội viên để sở hữu huy hiệu và Emoji đặc biệt trên kênh của mình nhé: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEslvw1FPWR3bUvWcQRYXNw/join

🎵S...

▶ Play video
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1auJx5iDbE i guess i'll link this too but p2 damage proportion and actions are not that different from the above lol

what a piece of shit
Old run: https://youtu.be/eXAWLQR232c?si=WTsDN7uOudtFNDgb

This transition strategy worked for me. Can get some more SP if Luna gets an ultimate evasion after her combo attack at 1:39 but this one is kind of random. Can also get more if Theresa gets more evades before going to sleep at 1:48. Theresa cannot kill the Padrin...

▶ Play video
pale musk
elfin parrot
#

this sounds very uphill to compete against

#

i overall don't think we can expect much but i'm trying to find some ref with PS in it for now

#

I loosely expect standard LV ranks would be more like SS by now

pale musk
#

I'm just looking to retain. I can't beat stardust anymore and the schedule is very stardust-filled pretty soon, so I want to avoid getting those in RL stages.

elfin parrot
#

and full gear with CE of course

#

yeah i mean that for nirv retain

#

but anyway let's see for now. LV is also an old valk and there are older players who have quit

#

so sometimes you might have a bracket with enough players lacking older stuff too

#

the transition for this version of the boss is quite notorious so at least give that a look for ideas for your own runs

#

aside from transition, these videos can give you ideas of how to handle hitcounts too

#

Anyway as per usual, i can only recommend exploring and exhausting all avenues on your own. Can briskly get a rough idea from p1 of the fight rather than doing the whole fight (unless outburst cycles with a p2 team end up awkward)

But on the other hand I think both sides are too far from ideal that you may not want to expend too much effort trying too much.

pale musk
#

I see, thank you very much for all the options

elfin parrot
#

Sorry I couldn't help more but hope something comes out of it

grave lion
#

HoTr or HoHe? I know some pin said to wait for info to come out but have we gotten any info?

elfin parrot
#

the main thing to take note are properties of the upcoming Rita

#

notably rita is imaginary lightning which overlaps completely with HoO and partially with HoFi, which may eclipse some of HoTr's use cases

#

i think i did briefly update the pin with that consideration already though

elfin parrot
#

well i need to go now but i would mostly be parroting from the pin anyway unless you have a very middle case. Feel free to elaborate and other people can still help though

cunning gull
#

this is sonk aop?

crude cloak
#

Should be a lot higher in EU

#

Like 630 if I had to guess?

#

Maybe 640

#

idr what I got with DS alr

cunning gull
#

idk if i wanna be that optimistic since ill do ds
and my atk is def lower than em

#

only 2 lv players in the bracket out of 7 players that did all stages, maybe not doomed yet HoSHmm

crude cloak
cunning gull
#

good

#

let the case with the recent phy kevin boss happen again
where almost everyone in my bracket played ps lead

dusk harness
#

will there be a rerun for PS next patch? and is she still good even she is 3 patch behind now

silk bison
#

is benares a must for hoo against this ma boss

full trench
craggy plume
full trench
#

no reason to pull old stuff when you cant even get everything new

wind agate
#

hohe or hotr? New account and planning to pull for rita

cunning gull
flat rain
#

Someone told me that this is gonna be a pain in the butt

lime grail
#

🥀

#

team's PS LP FDD S Teri

cunning gull
#

not bad considering that ps is type countered

open bone
#

Much nicer than my score, Teri + atk diff prolly

cunning gull
#

yeah

full wave
cunning gull
#

same thing that teammate said

lime grail
#

can we not have the newest world as bridge bg?

#

🥀

hardy moat
#

Anyone got the horb love ely vita rotation?

quasi pier
#

a bit scuffed but good enough

half hatch
# hardy moat Anyone got the horb love ely vita rotation?

Pretty sure that team is covered in HoRbs tutorial, just know that rotations are always flexible and change depending on the situation so it's best to actually understand what each action does instead of following a rotation blindly

elfin parrot
# lime grail

There might be a good chunk left you can get considering we're more than 10 dist less from these

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1W8StBgE82/ 527D 657 HLE S2.FDD PS SS.CX
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1WqS1BbECi 522D 672 HLE PS FDD SS.CX?
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV113SyB4Een?p=2&spm_id_from=333.788 527D 651 PS SS.LP FDD SS.TeriOp
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV113SyB4Een 527D 645 FWS PS FDD SS.TeriOp

There seems to be quite a bit more but i'm too lazy to check them all https://search.bilibili.com/all?vt=16275188&keyword=巡航审判团+李+红莲&order=pubdate

#

reinbex's server in the pins prob has more too

elfin parrot
# half hatch Pretty sure that team is covered in HoRbs tutorial, just know that rotations are...

@hardy moat
They used FWS instead of HLE but that's all the more opportunity to learn how each valk and their actions break down to be.

If you're not aware, most astral ring valks have their primary team buff on their 3pc stig effect https://i.imgur.com/faAxZig.png
Loosely speaking you can generally substitute FWS' actions with whatever that HLE wants you to do here

Vita is exceptional in that she mainly buffs from her ult, so don't take the 3pc as an absolute rule.

Overall very generally speaking, set up support effects first > dps until they expire > repeat

As Mango said, don't be so rigid with learning a rotation. Optimizing in HI3 often needs fine adjustments (adding or removing attacks, deviating from a basic rot) or even very different sequences that aren't repeated at all.

hoary pebble
#

when is the next supply shop reset if i may ask?

elfin parrot
hoary pebble
#

oh sorry

half hatch
elfin parrot
#

nothing to apologize for. That sort of question is ok

#

if it's any actual new content (character, enemies, gamemodes) then anything not known in glb yet should be spoiler tagged here

any story content are flat out not allowed here, new or old

and of course any leaks are highly forbidden (even vaguely confirming leaks of upcoming content exists will get you in trouble)
if you're not sure what's a leak, then check the cn channel pins. Anything mentioned there is ok to bring up.

fading osprey
#

When the new patch start?

hoary pebble
#

got itFuHuaApprove

elfin parrot
fading osprey
#

Damn it’s been more than 6m since the last time I was in the game

elfin parrot
#

although i heard at first there were inaccuracies/changes to previous norms recently. Not sure if that's been fixed already

hoary pebble
#

oh right the reroll device boxes dont get reset they just add moreHeliaStopIt

elfin parrot
#

normally we expect maint after abyss ends but apparently now it's a day earlier?

half hatch
#

Yeah they moved the maint a day forward

void grail
#

Is HoS, Coralie and Reign Solaris ok

#

reign solaris as leader and ither two for support, kind of new to this entire astral ring thingy

craggy plume
#

What Coralie?

void grail
#

yes

craggy plume
#

And HoS doesn't work since she is not an astral ring valk

#

Coralie has multiple battlesuits are we talking about FDD or VBm

void grail
#

i looked it up online n it said it had synnergy or something

#

VBm

craggy plume
#

VBm can work as cope support

#

Both HoS and RS can support physical P1 teams but HoS offers nothing for RS if RS is the leader

void grail
#

Kind of just used this as my form of reference

craggy plume
#

Yes that is the P1 team

void grail
#

but is. HoS not good for Solaris then?

#

I can’t get the meta aupport for solaris n just came up with these two as last resort

quasi pier
void grail
#

also debuffs

quasi pier
#

all p2 phys valks have this too

#

HoS won't do much for her

void grail
#

when will the next p2 support come out like vita

quasi pier
#

every p2 gacha s rank is a dps/support hybrid

#

Solaris wants teammates with the heavenly shift support tag

#

i think Rita has the tag

lament prairie
#

starting to think this shit is not possible with SS0 HoO

#

my benares is even affixed for blade

#

I even HoO ult at :59 in p1

#

nevermind I'm just fucking dogshit at the game

#

@mint plover where r u

#

:(

mint plover
#

Me no dmg

#

Only ss hoo

lament prairie
#

I'm SS0

mint plover
lament prairie
#

no excuse

#

get to it

mint plover
#

what send run

lament prairie
#

is it hfi dkey issue lol

mint plover
#

sinc 0

#

well 1 technically

#

but ykwim

mortal jetty
lament prairie
#

yeah its hfi dkey issue then

#

you should be able to get -1 tho I'd think if u do HoO eva as well in p2

#

ur p1 is run issue

#

you should finish on early :58 with no issues

mint plover
#

yeah i know

#

i just dont care rn since i cant kill anyways

#

thats a whale for you

#

me smoll

lament prairie
#

fym whale teriri

#

I skipped fws for that sinc 3

#

no regrets

mint plover
lament prairie
#

should have done the same

mint plover
#

yeah no

lament prairie
#

what atk is ur hoo

#

mines 1609

#

wait I just realized no bena

#

what

mint plover
lament prairie
#

mf using the wrong stigs expecting it to work

#

smhj

mint plover
#

mf almost getting it with wrong stigs*

lament prairie
#

fair point

#

ur dmg looks exactly like mine until p2 ult and it just entirely flops

mint plover
#

uwa thats some ass atk in there

#

i think its better to just leave mei set

lament prairie
#

my bena afix goated

mint plover
#

my bena affixes goated too

#

problem is they for hot

lament prairie
#

HAHA RIP

mint plover
#

well if i get better affiixes in my bena i can kill

#

wrong weapons

lament prairie
#

I reaffixed and gained 50 atk and the difference was like this much

mint plover
#

ehhhhhhhhhh

#

if this was just a img affix

lament prairie
#

f

#

I wouldn't waste affixes on this tbh

#

rita tomorrow

#

(I wasted affixes on this but thats besides the point I actualy got +1 from it)

mint plover
#

im just using ncc

#

i had like 30k

#

@lament prairie fuck u can kill with just 20 more atk

lament prairie
#

30k is one stig

mint plover
#

you just wrong

lament prairie
#

what lol

#

cope?

mint plover
#

i have timing issue, i know

#

but dmg is enough

#

and thats what matters

lament prairie
#

oh were u just missing dmg for some reason then

#

not affix related

#

now where +1

mint plover
#

yeah i dont know why but i cant proc qte as fast as yall

#

ive seen the video

lament prairie
#

which qte

mint plover
#

first one, eden one

#

hofi-eden in p1

lament prairie
#

er probably because you're using kia not klein

#

klein forces qte

mint plover
#

ah wait wasnt kiaelf the one we are suposed to use?

lament prairie
#

no

#

klein 3*

#

if no klein 3* use kia

mint plover
#

wth then how the fuck the cn video used kia and got that score

lament prairie
#

wuh

#

let me see

#

oh wait let me do powered duo first or im gonna forget abt it

#

im almost done

mint plover
lament prairie
#

mf malding the wrong leaderboard

mint plover
#

imagine malding powered duo

lament prairie
#

whale

mint plover
#

imagine whaling

lament prairie
#

ughh HLE and peachy spring HoH look fucking identical

#

I keep selecting the wrong ely

mint plover
#

klein is less dmg than kiana

#

dont think i can kill using klein

lament prairie
#

oh that explains how ur dmg isn't so different to mine then

#

I didn't even notice kiana until you mentioned p1 qte

#

ooh yikes yeah you have to trigger eden qte with hofi wep?

#

thats rough af

mint plover
#

yeah thats what i was doing

#

thats like 2 clock secs more

lament prairie
#

yeah thats terrible lol

mint plover
#

are we using jst over turg for some reason?

#

wasnt turg better?

#

imma try just to check

#

maybe with some luck Xd

lament prairie
#

idk

#

monkeyo see monkeyo do

mint plover
#

its cause mei ppm is shorter effect than newt b

lament prairie
#

lamo

mint plover
#

i checked and im missing a lot more even with same dmg p1

lament prairie
#

person using turg has sinc 1 hfi tho

#

and ss1 hoo

#

klein tho

#

4s is still a long time in honkai terms

#

surely ppm will be up anyway

mint plover
#

Yeah but its not that its really that much better somehow

#

ill lock what i have just now and well see tomorrow

#

maybe with rita its ezz gg

#

good enough i guess

lament prairie
#

all things considered 920 is very good yeah xd

#

ur so cooked in p1 by simply not having klein

#

thats instant -1

mint plover
#

well, good enough for t100 not good enough for sl standars

lament prairie
#

are u having to do eva in p2 or no

mint plover
lament prairie
mint plover
#

just see last week's score

lament prairie
#

I was t100 last week?

mint plover
#

even @storm ocean was t100

lament prairie
#

I haven't cared about MA for months lmao I don't pay attention anymore

storm ocean
lament prairie
#

I just saw that I had an opportunity for cap this week and decided to do it for once

#

LILEEEE

storm ocean
#

LYOOOOO

mint plover
#

you pulling tomorrow?

storm ocean
storm ocean
mint plover
#

yes you

storm ocean
#

Nah we skipping for SSS Leylah with 13 rings

#

Trust

#

I'm dawei

mint plover
#

@mots pls ban for impersonating

storm ocean
#

Jk jk yea I think I'll get her I absolutely HATE imaginary mobs

lament prairie
#

I think u can do it this was massive overkill

mint plover
#

yeah i can also kill

#

not anymore today tho

#

since i already locked

lament prairie
#

all I do differently to you is my p1 is as early as possible and p2 I hfi wep shortly after the lines turn red rather than waiting for the beam

#

yeah ofc

lament prairie
#

KarenThumbsUp good

#

so 936 tomorrow yeah?

storm ocean
#

Does Rita make this boss less ass

mint plover
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no, cause ill be doing aka

lament prairie
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smh

mint plover
lament prairie
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I actually want HoO to keep this ma bullshit

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her timestop is just crazy

storm ocean
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God please no I can't farm for her

lament prairie
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skill issue

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how many crystals we got bois

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I'm on 44k

storm ocean
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12k and 29 pity left till S rank valk
20 left on weapon

lament prairie
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12K?

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WHAT HAPPENED

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Brokie

storm ocean
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Don't ask

lament prairie
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no I will ask

storm ocean
lament prairie
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what happened lily

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lily what did you do

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lily

storm ocean
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Uhhh one rank for chenxue, one horb dkey...and pity building but I didn't get anything

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OHHH wait

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Badum weapon

lament prairie
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ooooooooooooooof

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kiana brick account curse spreads to my apprentice... rip

storm ocean
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I'm covered on sd at least I don't need flopsia

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Trust...

digital sky
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U do need her on that extremly specific boss that needs sd rime and breaking a sd shield thingy....

open bone
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Definitely doable with Badum Fish HoHE

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Nah yeah real talk that one will be suffering for people with no hle

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By what can u do

thick aspen
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on flower

stiff wigeon
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For rita team is sena very important? Ive seen a few videos with her in abyss so i was wondering by not having her am i cooked for abyss? Im redlotus btw , asking for advice

spiral raven
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rl u be fine

open bone
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Even in nirv Vita Thelema and Vita HLE should work

pale musk
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LV/SIMP/
If these are my best options, should 3rd slot be SS HoTR or SSS Eden?

open bone
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Do you have Cosmic Expression?

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If no, golden Diva should work fine geared

half hatch
pale musk
open bone
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yeah idk if that beats GD, might try both, but GD should work fine

thick aspen
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it certainly wont if gd is fully geared

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they are close to begin with

obtuse lintel
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yoyoyoyo really? 😭😭😭

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right now? ElysiaNotLikeThisElysiaNotLikeThisElysiaNotLikeThis

spiral raven
obtuse lintel
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how much time?

spiral raven
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idk but its like going to last 4 hrs or something iirc

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so after maint still another couple hrs

obtuse lintel
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im gonna need to do abyss at 2am then

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this is one of the times when i wish we could change servers

half hatch
obtuse lintel
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yeah, like 2am HimekoLMAO

proper radish
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is rita out on the chinese servers?

half hatch
storm ocean
violet horizon
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How bad is it to skip new rita
I don't have mini dudu, sparkle and minni Theresa
15k crystals

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I have an SS trio

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But the global anni/cn new year patch is here soon

cunning gull
violet horizon
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Yup

half hatch
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Tbh with that crystal count pulling her does not really sound like a wise idea especially with CNY coming up, for how bad it is, trio can perform rather solid on her bosses if properly ranked. Ofc Rita still top scores though. The other thing about her is that she's a really solid WoD support and that is also where a portion of her shill lies so you'll also miss out on those but depending on your rank you should be able to substitute her with other supports

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15k is just a really rough amount of crystals and I can't really justify going all out for Rita knowing that a patch with a usually strong valk is ahead

violet horizon
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Yea that makes sense

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I have like 60 days left on my monthly and could save up to go all out for the anniversary

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Thanks ill probably still do the discount pull but thats it

lapis raven
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wtf

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the update was today??

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why'd they change it smfh

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shits always on thurs and now its on a wed

vale aspen
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because new years CoralieLooking

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btw im assuming rita affix is full atk?

lapis raven
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man thats perfect maybe rita can save my abyss