💁gameplay-help

[scarlet willow]

u can get thelema in event

she top meta too

[full trench]

thel is definitely not a meta choice

completely useless without weapon and the standard is ranked not s0 now

[open bone]

Thelema isn’t top meta, it’s nice to get her for free but she wouldn’t be worth pulling

[vernal terrace]

Thelema from spending for beginners I'd say is only ER xtals and dorm level

[graceful bane]

I- so this gift option I can just choose whatever since I need to to pull the new character plus weapon to be viable?

[open bone]

Can cope MA with her

[full trench]

if you care about meta you should get elf frags as an eventual ds upgrade in some situations

[vernal terrace]

True

[scarlet willow]

sure

[vernal terrace]

Can confirm since I almost forgor I had her

[full trench]

if you plan on spending enough to get new astralops elf frags are more arguable, only use at that point would be for new ring types before the op releases

[scarlet willow]

or top up 1820 b chip and buy horb

pull dlc equipment

hehehehe

[vernal terrace]

That Bchip box is a scam

[scarlet willow]

hoyoverse is scammer

[open bone]

Just 2 more weeks until I can get my Thelema her weapon

[vernal terrace]

I probably won't be able to, not like Thel has bosses often

[open bone]

She has bosses all the time in memorial arena 🙂

[vernal terrace]

SS yeah, unless it's Kallen

[open bone]

But yeah real talk even if she had an abyss boss I would be stuck using HLE dps because HLE is my only other real WoD support

[vernal terrace]

||We have a Raven Abyss cycle this patch||

[open bone]

||Really? I haven’t seen it on Marisa||

[vernal terrace]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[bitter ice]

Should i get Badum first or Cora first for HLE

[open bone]

Ideally I wouldn't reccomend backpulling either

if you've gotta tho FDD is the better support and has a better cope weapon ig

[dawn vortex]

which character is recommended in student council request

[dark phoenix]

vill v is the best for ranking, but ely or aponia could be more comfortable and easier to use

[eager smelt]

vill v is comfortable to use

[dusky mantle]

Comfort is spawnkilling enemies

[shrewd python]

Is HLE dps or FWS better this abyss (i don’t have JD)

[full trench]

would guess hle not having jds but you can try badum too

[dusky mantle]

Probably hle? More recent valk

Unless fws dps is strong

[shrewd python]

she’s not fully leveled she’s 4/4 but like

No cubes😔

[full trench]

yeah definitely the one with leveled gear

[digital sky]

Oh no..

[open bone]

Badum is better with JDS, HLE otherwise

[digital sky]

So. Uh
Could wepless thelema support HoH goodish..?

Specifically support

Not sub dps...

[full trench]

well in arc if you arent dpsing with thel you're ari farming

so no

[shrewd python]

Can I mald for more…

[full trench]

probably

[digital sky]

Ucoulddpswithhohinrlprobably:<

[full trench]

suspicious

[digital sky]

Suspicious?

[cerulean gyro]

what are the mechanics for these bosses? I deal very low damage on final stage

[boreal eagle]

evade certain atks to collapse the qua shields

dun ask me what atks

[cerulean gyro]

can badum songque vita clear it?

i have no quantum dps

[boreal eagle]

depends on the disturbance and how well u play

i have no idea

[shrewd python]

Ull hear a certain noise and the sparkle will be a bit whiter for the evade

different to a regular pink evade thing

[boreal eagle]

yes right

[boreal eagle]

wtf thats high

good luck i guess without qua

[cerulean gyro]

these are all the valks I can use

[shrewd python]

Can anyone help me get above 777
I found that ending SO early helped me get a lower score
I freaked out at the end and switched to FWS LOL
my current best is 773

Nvm 1st place is at 781 it is what it is 😔

[open bone]

Why are you ending SO early

[spiral raven]

u can prob save ur self a point at the start by not ulting with kiana since it does nothing

[open bone]

I think you also could have held the last ult for less time

But other changes to the Rot Will probs obviate that

[shrewd python]

I did a run with full SO and it ended up being slower because The SO was longer than what I needed to kill the thing

[full trench]

turn off auto cast immaculate duet, as for actual run changes there are a lot

[stoic crest]

Yayy!! Should I break the ceiling right now or no? (I only have one lvl. 80 p2 starting S rank valk)

[crude cloak]

Yes

!faq breakthrough

[night parcel]

Breakthrough

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for more information regarding Breaking through to Exalted (Captain Level 81+).

Short Answer:

• It is highly recommended to break through for better rewards, but be aware that it is irreversible!

Also see !faq superstring regarding Exalted Abyss

[full trench]

in p1 your combo atk is slow find a point where starting it then hits the boss, in p2 do your normal out of ring ult to pop critical value and then ring so u dont waste all the wa damage, inside of ring idk why u did what u did but it's not the best sequence, for something im not sure about in p1 try ult immediately after hle qte to pop critical value then wa ult

[shrewd python]

what’s wa?

[full trench]

weapon active

[shrewd python]

so normal out of ring ult as in wa then hold ult?

[shrewd python]

As in Kiana’s jump hold atk hitting the boss?

instead of waiting for the boss to hit me?

[full trench]

yeah for p2 right after it hits the ground

[full trench]

yes

[shrewd python]

illl try but I’m not good at this

[full trench]

its just looking at how many points you have until you find a timing that works, not hard

[shrewd python]

Did Kiana’s hold buff thing activate or was I too early

[full trench]

you can see whether it activates by looking at your ari since the attack consumes stellar drain, in this case you got it

[shrewd python]

Im still unsure about p2 tho- so the moment the circle thingy finishes and bro jumps up and does the big red circle

Do I evade WA hold ult SO?

[full trench]

yes

or maybe you can wa just before she hits the ground and ult still hits her idk

[shrewd python]

I’ve got an exam tmrw so ill just try uh

I’ll try the original thing

768 without ending SO early

786 with SO ended early

Thank you for your help I’m now ranked 1 hahaha i appreciate it

[shell quail]

[full trench]

save this message link if you want to check it later
for p2 you can try hle wa ult badum ring wa ult hle ult 2x wa ult end ring wa ult

[shrewd python]

ill try tmrw if the SSS chenxue person gets a better score than me

[full trench]

my understanding is cloud gaming services are bannable

[daring star]

oh

sorry

[rare basalt]

Hey haven’t played since feb when the mars thing launched, how much have I missed and who should I get??

[fringe sandal]

I won't

[cunning gull]

well a lot has changed about the story, there's a lot more part 2 characters and its months away from 2 years so there's more part 2 shill, but as usual you just pull for new releases if you can afford it
if you're not attached to your old account or there's nothing rare on it then you can make a new one for more rewards and easier time to get new stuff, up to you

[indigo crown]

is it normal for HoHe to swiytch out right after QTE is triggered in love elf dps team during stellar outburst?/ like i switch from coralie to HoHe and then HoHe does her QTE but IMMEDIATELY switches to love elf??

[fierce crypt]

u need to use hohe ult

[indigo crown]

I think i figured it out lol, its because i keep pressing 1 too quickly and the game registers it so it swicthes to love elf immediately after HoHe is in

[full trench]

you're probably accidentally buffering another swap, check to see if pressing the swap key once fixes it

[full trench]

generally not optimal in ring

[fierce crypt]

u can't get 3 stacks
unless u have chenxue

[full trench]

ok

[feral cairn]

Hi Captains, I'm a returning player who came back just for HLElysia, fortunately I managed to 4/4 gear her with returnee funds.
The only other part 2 characters I have are 3/4 Senadina (missing her wep), 0/4 SS Helia, 4/4 SS Coralie, 0/4 Mad Pleasure and 0/4 Lantern. (I got lantern on 5 single pulls lol)

Using the free 20 pulls, who should I roll for? Badum Kiana or Lone Planetfarer (Vita)?
I also have HorB and HoH:E but dont have their divine keys

[indigo crown]

honestly badum kiana is your besdt choice if you want dps new elf

[full trench]

you can either roll for badum now or wait until ps returns, there's a pin in #👶beginner-help that talks about it

[feral cairn]

Ok tyvm, I was stuck between deciding for those two. 👍

[craggy ivy]

🤏

[full trench]

worth noting that this is based on the valks with weapon so badum will be a bit higher damage compared to ps than calculated here

but the important thing for either of them is other utility

[pale palm]

I failed the last abyss because I don't have Badum and now the current boss also works best if Badum is also in the team
Should I even bother trying to remain in the top 10
I endup 13th and every single one above me had Badum along with HLE and someone else

[full trench]

it sounds like you dont have either badum or hle in which case it's fine to slack

if you're a3 or below might be worth playing ig

[pale palm]

I have everyone except badum and ps

I am in RL

[full trench]

oh yeah you should be fine if you have 2 symbiosis supports

t3 would be quite hard but t10 should be doable

[pale palm]

is this good or should I change paws for someone else

[full trench]

paws fdd is highest damage so it's good

[pale palm]

I am not sure what exactly I must do with paws
do I weapon active once and swap and do something else

[full trench]

qte/ult apply buffs and ult consumes stellar drain

[pale palm]

such a low score

[hearty yacht]

should I be using fws or hle lead in this abyss

[craggy ivy]

Any idea how to get more score?
https://youtu.be/crkW2RbCR5Y

Dmg feels overkill but can't think of faster so setup for p2

[eager smelt]

very simple
uncap that fps

[craggy ivy]

my lappy too potato

[eager smelt]

ur inputs are so slow my eyes are bleeding

[craggy ivy]

ig windowed

[eager smelt]

do u really need badum enhanced

[full trench]

tap wa + cora ult isnt faster?

[formal wigeon]

if you can record with semi stable 60 you should be able to reach higher

not like capping helps you anyways, it just makes the highs lower

[craggy ivy]

sp isn't tied to doing the wa itself?

or do you still need to land the hit

[full trench]

idk if tap wa gives sp but even if it doesnt you can cora ult for the sp which might be faster

[craggy ivy]

so SO > hle arrow bloom > fws tap wa > fdd ult > hle?

[eager smelt]

cant u kill with just going through badum no coralie

[craggy ivy]

was asking abt this

[arctic remnant]

Any tips for this team?
I waste a lot of time in Phase 1 and idk who should i start my rotation with

And for phase 2 i end up winning before fully finishing my full astral ring rotation which feels wasted
EDIT: does red lotus not have the +200 reward for 1/2/3rd place?

[craggy ivy]

tap wa fws without it landing didn't give the sp

ig can try landing it

[full trench]

does it give sp if it lands

[eager smelt]

oh right i forgot the sp issue
just shoot 1 less arrow during ur first ult

or run max sp supports

[craggy ivy]

Does it still send it to pink state without max arrow?

[eager smelt]

start with hohe

[arctic remnant]

3x charged attack -> weapon -> FDD -> stay on HLE until phase 1 is done?

[full trench]

why would you do 3 charged attack

[arctic remnant]

don't i need 3 before weapon skill?

[formal wigeon]

Even if you did need the 3 marks, you'd just dodge->CA for that

but no you don't

[arctic remnant]

Didn't know about this!
Ty, i improved by 20 points...
I feel like during stellar outburst i wasted time doing Hohe's full rotation (CA->Weapon->Ultimate) since i didn't get to finish HLE rotation...

[formal wigeon]

yeah don't do that

[craggy ivy]

not enough apparently

[eager smelt]

just shoot 1 less arrow

[craggy ivy]

didn't send it into pink mode

[eager smelt]

use ur dupe stigs and start affixing badum and coralie into max sp

it should allow u to shoot 1 more arrow
probably

[craggy ivy]

oh nvm I found a way to get more sp but skipping fws wa loses me too much dmg

[eager smelt]

u are doing regular wa right

[craggy ivy]

hold wa

[eager smelt]

why not regular wa so u get the max hp reduction

[craggy ivy]

does it proc her buffs too?

[eager smelt]

just ringing should proc all buffs

[craggy ivy]

ic

[eager smelt]

of course u need to ult too

[craggy ivy]

Not enough

[eager smelt]

bricked

how about no wa but coralie qte

[craggy ivy]

SS chenxue too op

[eager smelt]

oh and also u could probably turn badum qte off

[digital sky]

In GoI?

[eager smelt]

yeah

[digital sky]

But u cant ult for free and dont get full bar

[full trench]

full bar doesnt matter and u dont need to ult for free

[eager smelt]

ring ult should be free

whats not free is out of ring ult

[digital sky]

Oh ok

[craggy ivy]

This happened again with badum qte off

If I ult to cut the gap I lose sp for SO

Maybe more ba on hle

[eager smelt]

thats a thing?

[craggy ivy]

Normal ult cost sp no

[eager smelt]

i thought the sp after ring was always the same

[craggy ivy]

Is not enough

[rare basalt]

Ah right I remember why I stopped playing, it was hard ash to get stuff to pull

[craggy ivy]

[eager smelt]

do wa then

[craggy ivy]

Oh wait nvm SS resets it to 150 sp anyways kek

[craggy ivy]

Still not enough dmg

[eager smelt]

that doesnt sound right

show me what ur doing

[craggy ivy]

eva seq 4 + skipping fws hold wa apparently slower

[cunning gull]

hmm if your problem is being able to pull something then part 2 makes it easier by pulling less to get what you want, not to mention patches are longer, but its your call if you like it or not

if you only care about story and events, don't need to pull all together

if you return we can help you figure out stuff no worries

[eager smelt]

seems bricked

ur fps that is

[craggy ivy]

is alr uncapped

[fervent musk]

[eager smelt]

turn down those graphics

look at old awawa for reference

[turbid minnow]

Would anyone be so kind to explain to me how does this guy bypass badum's enhanced WA and does a regular WA instead at 1:40? https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1DVxRzpEP2/

[eager smelt]

weapon skill

[turbid minnow]

yes... weapon skil... but how

[eager smelt]

...go to weapon skills

[elfin parrot]

there's a toggle so you don't automatically use the enhanced version

[turbid minnow]

ok thank you for being clear about it

turned it off but she still does the enhanced WA for some reason

[eager smelt]

dont hold

[turbid minnow]

oh ok ty

[short grail]

Do I change horb to her old set to support susannah

[formal wigeon]

turn off dmg numbers too, there's way too many on screen with the multi hit and link it's not helping your frames

[craggy ivy]

[elfin parrot]

there isn't much of a use case for that nowadays but yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQOWnRJuE3c note this is beta but i expect it to be similar enough

[short grail]

I have no qua valk other than susan

[elfin parrot]

we don't have a qua situation right now do we? Next one is super tona in a few weeks

maybe consider it then but you might be better off bruteforcing with a newer team while handling thte collapses more manually

[turbid minnow]

Extra question, is there a reason as to why I can't seem to have full astral energy at 00:36? We have the same exact setup (SSS Chenxue, S2 Ely etc.), I even tried evading every boss atk but it still doesn't seem to be enough

[elfin parrot]

edit: @short grail
maybe you can consider susannah for the upcoming bleed cycle instead if you lack PS sushang

although maybe you can consider Starry Impression with HoTr TB stigs to support an astral ring team too

[elfin parrot]

you're noting the FWS evade right? FWS restores 1 ARI more than the others per evade https://i.imgur.com/czx4Q9J.png

FDD got an evade in too

i vaguely recall this boss' attack patterns not being consistent so you may have to reset for a particular order

increase your fps and lower your settings too if you haven't yet. The way ARI ticks isn't consistent so you may have to reset for it too

[turbid minnow]

I mean as I said I did try evading every attack but it still wasn’t enough, maybe I’m doing something else wrong, not sure, but if you’re 100% sure it’s just the evades then I guess I just have to keep trying

Fps is already at 120 stable so it shouldn’t be an issue

[formal wigeon]

evading every attack can be less ARi if you stop attacking for it

the base ARi regen is only for 1s after your last hit

[elfin parrot]

even if fps is stable, it's not consistent. You can miss the microtiming of when the game checks and allows for an ARI gain

even on high end devices veterans may reset for ARI ticks

[formal wigeon]

that as well yeah if your current valk has a long enough delay between some attacks

it can miss a refresh

[red monolith]

How 2 play HoTr in shallow?

[formal wigeon]

and end up some ticks lower

[formal wigeon]

see pins for shallows tutorial vids

[elfin parrot]

!faq er signets

[night parcel]

Elysian Realm

I'm here to help, Captain!

Click here for signet guides!
-# Also see Shallow Sequence Tutorials here.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

for your convenience but yeah as gurdil says it's in the pins

[elfin parrot]

overall how off are you by?

you can also show us an example recording of what you're doing?

honestly i'm not the best to ask since i don't have chenxue and haven't done the fight yet (not open in NA yet)

and for now i'm assuming you're off only very slightly

[formal wigeon]

if you're off by more than a few points, you're missing something else

like 2-3

[turbid minnow]

Usually it's by 5-6 points, I'll try to record one now, just got back on PC

[elfin parrot]

one thing i'm not sure of is if there's some evade > jump going on or if it's the other way around

not sure if it's been fixed or not applicable to FWS

but there was past cases where you can get more sp from doing that

the FDD basic after weapon active might be important for a tick too, in addition to positioning to evade the attack

[formal wigeon]

evade+jump should always be doable if the attack has at least as slight lingering hitbox

[elfin parrot]

also wait you said your fps is only at 120 stable?

the video is clearly at 200+ fps

[formal wigeon]

if ARi regen is that affected by uncapped fps it gives me another reason to hate AR system even more than before

[elfin parrot]

idk tbh. I would imagine it can influence it

i've already seen some old thelema main dps with SI support on bleed hos hyper extend their outburst time from it at least

#🔌technical-help message

directions to uncap fps are here. Up to you if you want to resort to it or not

i can only say historically nobody has been banned over it, and it doesn't touch the game's actual files

[turbid minnow]

Posting the recording now

[elfin parrot]

take your time

and ofc for uncapped fps to mileage your hardware needs to be good enough to handle it too

[turbid minnow]

I have a 3070 and ryzen 7 5600 so hardware should be fine, it's just that I don't really wanna risk my account with 3rd party softwares, even if it's very low risk

[elfin parrot]

it's not 3rd party software related (although you can use one to adjust it)

it's just a registry setting to change the setting beyond what the ingame options provide

[turbid minnow]

Doesn't that still count as getting an unfair advantage?

[elfin parrot]

ultimately, the game devs seem to allow it

[turbid minnow]

I'm at 120 fps, you can't really go above 120 fps without using 3rd party programs

[elfin parrot]

i personally don't use it myself but it's up to you

[turbid minnow]

Hmm

[elfin parrot]

it's not a third party program

[turbid minnow]

Yeah the text was from earlier when it was uploading

[elfin parrot]

oh ok

[turbid minnow]

It took a while 'cause of my connection lol

[formal wigeon]

people everywhere use it and post recordings with it, nothing ever happened related to that

[elfin parrot]

yeah i understand now. I definitely have fallen into that myself, sending a message with a long upload, and needing to reply urgently

this is really high quality lol. Which is good but it'll take me a while to actually load it

one thing i can already say is no cora basic before the evade

[turbid minnow]

Sorry 😭

[elfin parrot]

and ARI ticks by attacks

so you can see by FDD ult you were at 132 when the vod was at 133

[formal wigeon]

it technically is as regedit is a microsoft thing, but it's also just a basic windows functionality. The same way you'd change settings by accessing a setting.ini file sitting in a folder

[digital brook]

who should I get for free?

[elfin parrot]

pins in #👶beginner-help

[turbid minnow]

So what the hell am I supposed to do 😭 attack more? i'm confused

[elfin parrot]

i guess. It's kinda weird to get into that sort of semantics since windows can be argued as more of a default (does that make this second party?? lol)

(yes i know there's mac/linux/etc but the point is the base operating system settings)

[elfin parrot]

basic attack before the evade if you can fit it in. Otherwise accept a slower but more reasonable alternative

[turbid minnow]

Fair

[elfin parrot]

you can see that it's kinda haunting you as you go too. 164 in your video as ely revs the weap > ult while it's 165 in the bili video? (lmao low res is hard to see)

by slower alternative is to try to sneak in a fast basic you can cancel quickly out of of any of your three valks. maybe after the evades so they don't affect your ability to nail them

[turbid minnow]

Yeah, but that should be the only case where AR gives me issues, 'cause in 2nd part it's pretty much identical

[turbid minnow]

I'll give it a try

[elfin parrot]

or just continue with HLE ba at the end before outburst

might be better damage that way anyway

compromising in this sort of way esp against higher fps gameplay is pretty normal sadly

[turbid minnow]

That's another issue, I end up doing more damage 'cause of the lower disturbance, so I have to slightly adjust the rotation to make sure I get enough AR for 2nd part

[elfin parrot]

i agree with your sentiments personally but as far as what is allowed and how things go, i can only tell you as it is

[turbid minnow]

If I kill it too fast I won't be able to get the refresh on coralie

[elfin parrot]

yeah that's normal too. Don't really expect to copy a ref 100%

[turbid minnow]

Yup

[elfin parrot]

you might want to brainstorm for some entirely different things you can do with coralie/transition

but i haven't watched far enough to see what that is yet. give me a minute

oh note that cora is doing the evade jump thing i mentioned earlier in transition

+4 sp

and 2 ari?

hm i wonder if you can just swap to fws immediately in transition to mileage from her double regen instead

[turbid minnow]

I'm gonna experiment a bit and see what I can come up with

[elfin parrot]

hm should i hold off for now then? feel free to ask again when you need more help

i actually do need to step away now for things on my own end

i'm also still not sure what you meant by refresh on coralie since they refreshed her buff with outburst in p2

anyway best of luck. Ping me if you still need me and i'll get back to you when i can

but also see if others can help too. Again I'm really not the best to ask

[turbid minnow]

I didn't mean the buff refresh, more so the refresh on the AO energy after ely goes out of her first astral outburst either way I kept trying out stuff and settled on 780, I could probably get 785 but I malded enough for today 😭 and people with ranks are gonna outscore me anyway, so it's fine. Ty for the help!

[elfin parrot]

oh the stellar drain. I see. Hm yeah alternatives to that are prob alot slower. If you need to damage control more, maybe don't fire ely's full ult, but that might be too much of a damage loss.

For now it sounds like you can still get a fight with it intact so just reset until it happens is prob the best approach

and yeah glad to help what i can. at the very least you encountered unfamiliar concepts

i think transition does have a very slight hitbox right after evading the final laser and i'm not sure if it's unintended/fixed yet. People used to drop a FDD ult there to refresh her buff

but trying to nail a stellar drain there is prob too ridiculous

https://youtu.be/jw_vEUjvbLM?t=90 maybe i'm forgetting some details but here's an example of what i was saying

idr if jds loses her CA meter on swap out but if she doesn't, then note that filled meter was from a previous cycle

[surreal citrus]

does impair stack with physical breaker?

[haughty token]

if i forge a 3rd sacred relic and try to salvage it, i dont get blue reso?

what if i by chance would pull it, also no blue reso?

[half hatch]

short answer kinda
long answer it's doesn't really stack but it reduces the already reduced DEF stat, for further explanation view this faq

!faq physical breach

[night parcel]

Understanding Breach

Yo, Captain!

[Click here](#💁gameplay-help message) for the explanation of Elemental/Physical Breach!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[half hatch]

you would get blue resonance in both instances

[haughty token]

no i get 3 honkai cubes for the forged one

[half hatch]

you need to convert it not salvage

[haughty token]

im stupid

[surreal citrus]

I see, so if a physical GoI character were to come out, you would just pick HoRb or FDD to use in their team instead of both

[half hatch]

it depends, p2 physical characters usually already have impair implemented in their stigmata so if that character also has that then HoRb's impair would be practically useless, even if impair and phys breach become somewhat less effective when paired together they both still turned out to be useful in the past for some characters even if hoyo shilled breach valks with passives that require breach

[cyan nova]

hey guys i'm back here!! not sure if thats the place i should ask about it, but, i've been stuck on elysian realm for some months now, someone told me before that i should just keep doing it and at some time i would get this side mission thing but it hasnt happened (since july) so i'm starting to doubt it will ever will. when i open the chapter % shows this side mission screen and on selecting view it goes to that page with voice notes and i dont see any thing there that would explain what i should do so if anyone knows anything i could be doing wrong or if it is just like that and i will have to wait until 2027 to unlock it

[formal wigeon]

They'd end up the same rather

If the stigs have 55% impair like the others, adding the 45% breach on top is pretty much equivalent to a 75% impair

So in this case both HRB and FDD would end up with the same effective def

[violet horizon]

Do we know how long the next patch would be?

[formal wigeon]

and running both together would equate to 86.5% impair

which could also be the play

in the end it'll depend on what Hoyo wants to push more from it, and if they even do release one at some point in the first place

[half hatch]

i was more thinking that the stig impair would just overwrite the horb impair again or does Horb impair take some kind of priority ?

[formal wigeon]

(I'm of the opinion they'll avoid giving HRB anything to support so they don't have to think about it)

[mighty zinc]

I'm cooked

[formal wigeon]

her ult should stay on top

iirc even with HoS ult the impair source stayed as HRB

(without brick as having that replaces her impair)

[mighty zinc]

Any advice for Nirvana? or Do I accept defeat....

[digital sky]

So like.
Hows wepless Thelema as a support......notsubdps for HoH?

[stoic crest]

Do I prioritize divine key horb or sig for HLE

[formal wigeon]

pretty ass

Her 2 main bonuses outside the generic buffs are being fast (thanks to the timestop on the weap) and the ARi dodge spam farm (thanks to the timestop on the weap and the +2 on dodge that's also on the weap)

[kindred beacon]

how do i complete the genealogical seat quest

[formal wigeon]

#👶beginner-help message

[wicked mason]

so can Love Elysia trash on Sa or is Badum Kiana still better

[mortal jetty]

Ita depend of ranks

But if both S0 probably badum

Ely is almost close tho

[maiden cloak]

What supp with badum if no dragon

[digital sky]

But shieldbreak and rime 😔

[crude cloak]

Vita

The DMG loss should be too high without a Breach source

[mental echo]

who should I go for with the new selector

[crude cloak]

Well, both are equally useless in your case unless you have their gear xdd

[mental echo]

awww man really

I guess I like ely more

[mental echo]

I thought hof's bis was this bronya?

[crude cloak]

Yes, but:

1. It looks like you don't have HoFi's new weap
2. Your HoTr will be gearless, which is very significant

If you're a very casual player you still can run trio that way, but it's not smth I can recommend in general

[mental echo]

this is what I've got for them

[crude cloak]

😭

[mental echo]

I got shafted on her banner back when

[crude cloak]

Yeah, unless you're planning to backpull HoFi's new weap (which is not recommended atp) you can forget about trio xdd

[mental echo]

yeah that's fair

bro I invested into hov way too late like 10 months ago I think I grinded for the sirin ascended set and maxed her weapon 😭

tried to use her and had very dismal results lolll

also I haven't been bricking my account going for her right? I wanted her so bad and missed her the first time

I've already done quite a few pulls

[crude cloak]

That's why you ask before pulling xdd

She's not good at all nowadays

[mental echo]

just verifying

dang

[crude cloak]

Wasn't great even shortly after release

[mental echo]

really? mannnnn

aughhh whatever I like her enough to pull guess I am just bricking 😭

I thought since she was an astral op she'd be viable </3

I honestly don't know much of hi3 since they dropped the new mode

[crude cloak]

AstralOps are a different thing btw

The term you're looking for is "Astral Ring valk"

[mental echo]

yeah

man that sucks why is every char I like terrible

[crude cloak]

Well, if you're a very casual player it doesn't matter as much

But we are meta-oriented by default

!faq meta

[night parcel]

Why does it feel like EVERYTHING is trash?

Please don't be discouraged, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message), it's not as bad as it seems! Let us clear up the common misconceptions about meta~

[crude cloak]

It does look like you've been taking breaks, and you can't be a meta player that way

[mental echo]

so I can comfortably clear most things with her?

she's just not a competitive unit?

[crude cloak]

If you're willing to accept slightly lower crystal income yes

[mental echo]

I suppose

[mental echo]

oh also I got the sincerest affection divine key option box which should I get

[grim hare]

what do i do?

[craggy plume]

@grim hare try #🔌technical-help

[crude cloak]

SoE:AE if you don't have it -> any other dkey which you don't have

All dkeys except SoE:AE are in Reserve Works

[grim hare]

ohh okay ty it didnt show me that channel

[mental echo]

alr I'll get star

[weary breach]

so....am i not able to get the mission reward for this anymore?

[open bone]

if you clear stages you will get the reward

you didnt clear the first stage

[misty hazel]

Are there any info on when waxing moon (hofi pt 2 gear) might come back?

[dark phoenix]

nope

[dark phoenix]

if you are new to EX abyss, just wait till you drop down to your comfort zone

or try to use your team better

[misty hazel]

What valks are songque better for and what valks prefers chenxue? Is there a guide somewhere?

These are all the pt 2 valks I own if it helps

[solemn tartan]

Songque aop better on almost every world star lead team (except horb)

Chenxue for rite of oblivion / grail of infinitude lead

Sena or sparkle lead would prefer songque aop

[misty hazel]

Ohh ok thank youu! How do you see what world star they are?

[solemn tartan]

Chenxue on vita or HLE

[solemn tartan]

If you go on character page, near the left there should be tags saying what their astral ring type is

and also what they can support

[misty hazel]

Omg thank you that’s super helpful… I’ve just been selecting my teams based on who lights up when I pick someone

[elfin parrot]

that glowing icon isn't reliable so i encourage you to not abide by it

!faq ring

[night parcel]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

can check out the last link here

[misty hazel]

:0 that’s exactly what I was looking for! Thank you

[elfin parrot]

the glowing icon only checks for what qualifies for enabling leader skills. However this includes valks that are RoO that may not have the matching tag (e.g. for an HLE leader (grail), vita (RoO but doesn't have symbiosis) will light up)

and in some cases it can be bugged to be flat out wrong. check here and the reply to it #👶beginner-help message

[misty hazel]

Ooo I see I see, I’ll go and familiarize myself with these!

[solemn tartan]

didn't know about the bugged indicator issue :o

[quasi pier]

happens all the time, the game loves forgetting that hofi is roo

[solemn tartan]

I see

[marble venture]

should i go for an LoA fws team or GoI hle

recommended says badum jds fdd but i don't have the last 2

[shell quail]

I think HLE is better

[marble venture]

actually i forgot i have teresa aop

that probably changes things

ok i tried both and badum scores better for me

[weary breach]

Ah....ooo boi....

[open bone]

It should probably be doable? I don’t know what battlesuits you have off but if you learn the rotations and pick the right team…

Who do you have?

[marble venture]

Idk if I can maintain RL

[open bone]

If you have HLE + Badum that should retain and if Teri Badum is better then it should be fine too

[craggy plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUr_boh28wI Can try something like this for HLE

[marble venture]

chenxue ss

[craggy plume]

both DS and Chen

[marble venture]

is there any reason why badum doesn't skill?

is the activation of her SD talent just not worth it

[weary breach]

considering the weather....

@open bone here's what i have (with the addition of HLE and Sparkle now. linked via self-reply)

[marble venture]

unironically horb hle tfm

wait no key right

[craggy plume]

Found it didn't make a difference if you used weapon on first phase when I did it but can try both and see

[marble venture]

hmm ok

I scored 787 with badum tfm hohe but I feel like there's room for improvement

[open bone]

HLE VBM RC, probably, assuming HLE is geared

[marble venture]

also top scorer in my bracket is 788 and that's unacceptable

[open bone]

Definitely an awkward set of battlesuits

[marble venture]

might try recording something

[half hatch]

she uses her WA in both runs 0:39 and 2:03

[weary breach]

HLE is not fully geared (no weapon)

[marble venture]

does the max hp reduction apply still?

[open bone]

Uh shit. Maybe JDS VBM TA then??? Sounds really rough ngl

At least you can sparkle the quantum stage

[half hatch]

yes as long as any WA hits the enemy once

[marble venture]

right, but if it reduces max hp does it still reduce current hp

[spiral raven]

its on top of it, so together

[marble venture]

even tho enemy isnt full health?

[half hatch]

yeah

[spiral raven]

yes

so u can do it later or at the start just depends on ur rot

[marble venture]

hm ok

i thought u had to open with it to "maximize" its value

but it makes sense ig

[spiral raven]

ur still reducing the 8%

but yea still dependent on rot, on paros it was quite nice to badum wa at the start, lets u proc the first crystallzie immediately

this one kinda far away

[vernal terrace]

[stoic crest]

Do I prioritize divine key horb or sig for HLE

[eager smelt]

sig

[crude cloak]

You don't wanna be getting valks without weaps

Might as well skip the valk

[stoic crest]

I already got HLE tho and I have <10 until guaranteed

[eager smelt]

yeah hes saying its too late so u have no other choice but to get weapon

[cyan nova]

@half hatch @weak drum oh hey! i got 21773 points on todays superstring dimension, its the highest i ever got and was all because of you guys teaching me earlier this week so thank you very very very much!!!

[stoic crest]

Ohhhh

[weak drum]

no problemo

[iron mesa]

damn, this is scuffed using seig T for the weapon cost reduction

I lost too much dmg with seig M for the CD reduction

Zhenyi T is 10SP on weapon hit, imagine.

[crude cloak]

The world is healing

[iron mesa]

I just always play VQ in abyss

this is only 100 pts less, kinda stonks tbh. Good for them

[weary breach]

it was rough but JDS VBM HLE worked

[iron mesa]

It looks like I could probably outscore my VQ with SPA

do I want to tho?

[crude cloak]

Not even running CE, the maso is strong

[iron mesa]

she has no gear

[crude cloak]

[iron mesa]

PRI but no Stigs

[crude cloak]

😭

Well, Cez could work iirc

Tbf it is Forbidden it looks like

The gather won't be impactful enough

[iron mesa]

ah whatever I'll keep

It's like 8pts more

[spiral raven]

is this sinful

[open bone]

Glad you found something that worked

[spiral raven]

trust in 900

[iron mesa]

It's kinda impossible because of the transition

I could maybe to 850 if I had a lot more dmg, but both phases are already less than a full rotation

with either team, VQ SI HS, CN HTr SPA

2 more pts XD

CN is a bit slow aint she?

That leaves MA or BD

[spiral raven]

she is

[spiral raven]

ma if u don't need ult for two rounds

[iron mesa]

for 1

[spiral raven]

ma then

u just get 12 feathers p1

or even less

[iron mesa]

can just use the other bow

[spiral raven]

the blue one? i mean sure ig i never used that on her

[iron mesa]

860 w/ MA

[spiral raven]

huge

[iron mesa]

bd is a bit bad since I can't pre-cast it like MA ult

[spiral raven]

u have to time the tornado but its awkward yea

also its not like clock where you can throw the tornado against the wall and he will run into you

[iron mesa]

nice

I love MA

[craggy ivy]

FWS better for rl?
https://youtu.be/ncL9gI5wtIk

[eager smelt]

because loa is the only ring with no duration

[craggy ivy]

Makes cents

I'd assume the linked dmg also pump fws more?

Ani not as long either

[eager smelt]

nah its just hle is big trash

[craggy ivy]

[turbid wolf]

Chat am i cooked

[spiral raven]

ur fine

just play

ur rank too low for it to matter

[turbid wolf]

Tru lol

The benefits and downsidesnof being a returnee ig

[dusky mantle]

Man 331D

Seems like an eternity ago that it was nirv temps

[craggy ivy]

Above nirv temps even

[cunning gull]

what abyss difficulty is this by chance?
also you have hle so youre more than fine

[dark phoenix]

331, should be sinful 1

[cunning gull]

it does look like it but i need to confirm

[turbid wolf]

It is sinful 1!!! I havent played since pt1 finished lol

[cunning gull]

ah i see, even hle is good for rl so this is ez clap, just make sure you have her weapon

[turbid wolf]

I have no idea what those terms mean is hle referring to ely love elf ? Also im currently trying to do more er runs to get more funds to get her weap...pain

[cunning gull]

hle is hi love elf aka the new elysia battlesuit

also good luck on weapon!

[turbid wolf]

Aaaaa i see ty!!!!

[craggy plume]

There is also a pin in #👶beginner-help which links to a glossary for acronyms

[boreal spoke]

i made a new acc, my game bugged. nothing to enhance anymore, gawd this loop

[rigid cedar]

quit and reenter

[boreal spoke]

yeah did that now

im stuck

STILL NOT FIXED XD

[rigid cedar]

bruh

okay let me think, there was a solution to this

[boreal spoke]

nvm thanks. it got fixed. i repeatedly do the loop. it got out somehow

[rigid cedar]

phew

okay, maybe report this through customer service #how-to-contact-cs

if you have the time

[boreal spoke]

will try

[edgy hamlet]

Is HLE lead better than FWS this abyss?

[full trench]

not for you no

wait misread, literally the opposite

[rigid cedar]

I'm still not 100% sure about HLE vs FWS

[arctic birch]

theres nothing to do with dupe prism stigmata right i got 2 extra of badums stig tryna get her weap so i can just salvage them right

[spiral raven]

s0 should be hle

[boreal eagle]

euphie got 780+ is FWS s0+1

better than hle s0+1

[rigid cedar]

So max aop rank teri stomps?

[boreal eagle]

yep

[spiral raven]

well theres peeps who also got 780 in sea with hle s0+1

[rigid cedar]

1 or 2 SO

[boreal eagle]

probably additional refines

[rigid cedar]

with S it feels impossible to do 2 SO

[spiral raven]

there's cora r2 but our d is higher

[boreal eagle]

[rigid cedar]

still getting used to double shifting though, so don't quote me

[edgy hamlet]

Im now confoosed. Both Chen vs Teri are SSS.. Whats better lol

[spiral raven]

just try both

[full trench]

what the whale

[spiral raven]

true fund me plz

[boreal eagle]

probably same score then I can't image euphie not doing capscore

[edgy hamlet]

Im just a mere shrimp in the ocean

[rigid cedar]

chen SSS should go similar, judging my intuition

[spiral raven]

this boss is just ass

[rigid cedar]

but hle just feel so slow compared to fws

[spiral raven]

u can lose points randomly

[edgy hamlet]

Hmm Ill try both and probably stick to whichever one is easier to play lol

[rigid cedar]

whenever i did that, the harder option was usually the best

[edgy hamlet]

[deft grove]

Hi.do I need to upgrade the valkyries for the stage..I heard that give a test valkyries for every stages..quite confusing

[dark phoenix]

you dont really need anything for story

use code to get trial card for early stage, after chapter 8 or so, the game will force you to use provided trial valk

here are the codes, there are 2 trial card and some stuffs
KEXMVQQZLU
US4RN92X15
LOVEELF
ThanksCaptain
6PGPIN58IL
AichanXElysia
HIELYSIA
KR9R89K622

[sacred cape]

Anyone got a 6S no ely abyss ref

[spiral raven]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1EaxDz9EH7/?vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

[sacred cape]

Why is there such a damage increase

By pressing coralie ult after transition

Doesn’t ring qte give every buff anyways?

[iron mesa]

I remember when nirv was 250 👴

[spiral raven]

maybe ur misremembering and confusing with other rings, cora breach here pressing ring/entering so doesnt refresh it either, and u can see that in super qte's the buffs also dont get refreshed, though maybe its coralie thing, i cant rmb if vita breach u get it instantly on pressing ring, but at least not for coralie it seems

and i just checked vita's buff does refresh on entering so/pressing the ring the first time, so maybe its coralie thing yea, this means whether you need to manually refresh the buffs and cant automatically get the buffs on just entering so, you will have to check yea

[bleak torrent]

who do i add to this team, i know the guide said hor but im not really sure if thats true

[spiral raven]

hor as in who? and which guide, maybe give a read on the pins in beginner help? u build teams around ring types,

ur ely there dont support vita's ring type

[crude cloak]

For Vita DPS you want Rite of Oblivion valks as supps

If you meant Ely DPS you want supps with the Symbiosis tag

[crude cloak]

Omniscient Star can be used instead as copium if you don't have enough

[edgy hamlet]

Why am I missing a bunch of ARI before the first SO everytime?

[spiral raven]

ari is funny

[edgy hamlet]

Some runs I have barely enough other runs I waste like 6 points trying to get it

[rain zodiac]

returning player on an acc i havent played on since 2023 here, the only like relevant built s ranks i have are fr, hofinality and hoorigin 🥀🥀 i also got free hohe and miss pink elf cuz i love elysia what should i do to restore this acc to like actually get through content

[spiral raven]

getting thru story doesnt need anything, but u just start by saving and guarantee new releases with weap basically

[crude cloak]

You could consider making a new acc too if you haven't alr

But show your valks + weaps + stigs first

[crude cloak]

It'll be easier to catch up that way

[rain zodiac]

i could but like highkey its too much time idk if i'll be able to get through all the beginner content while im busy w school

[crude cloak]

Ah, fair

[edgy hamlet]

2 ring is painful.... Im always doing way too much dmg and not getting any stellar drain towards the end of P1.

[spiral raven]

r u staying on ring too long

[edgy hamlet]

No I just do one WA then one charged ult then ult again to exit

[spiral raven]

p1 ur doing either just a weap ult exit so or just ult exit so

[spiral raven]

maybe u skip on earlier or later bits ig

do u need to 7 arrow ult each time

[spiral raven]

u can consider skipping the wa ig, depends on ur dmg

[edgy hamlet]

I tried to do a shorter ult cast outside of SO but it gave me no ARI

[edgy hamlet]

lemme try that

[outer aspen]

ik this is not very gameplay but can you use eqiupment card supply on the carnival supply banner?

[spiral raven]

u can, go to shop to exchange the card

[manic lynx]

why does it takes too long to kill him

[cunning gull]

this fella got a mechanic, u wanna collapse him, see the glowing purple diamonds under his hp? u wanna empty it, u can see the qua tutorial for more info

[drowsy sandal]

which divine key should i get from the box if i have none of them?

[cunning gull]

can i see it to make sure its the latest divine key box?

[cunning gull]

you can keep the box but the only one that isnt farmable rn is soe:ae aka the cannon

[drowsy sandal]

okey ty!

[manic lynx]

ty

[brave carbon]

are there any sa hle refs for ma

[glacial rune]

https://honkai-guide.web.app/#/

check here

[brave carbon]

cant seem find any with s hle but not with paws

[glacial rune]

I can try to check the boss out but later

[foggy vapor]

Is this ok for wishing sprout?

[elfin parrot]

ok in what sense? To clear or get the 20 crystals? Probably

if you're looking for a specific high score then you'll want to search from the resources in the pins to see if such a strat exists. MA rankings aren't actually important for rewards though (you mainly get more AW)

[mortal jetty]

I don't really think he will find a video with this but yeah he can cook something

[foggy vapor]

My goal is the 36k points iirc for full rewards

[elfin parrot]

yeah that's prob fine. You can training mode to make sure, or buffed mode without finalizing.

Make sure your other team is sufficient too

[foggy vapor]

Yeah my other team was hle fdd and badum. Easy clear on wheel. Thanks sai!

[sage fable]

hi, can someone tell me if my build is ok / what i am missing since i dont think my sushang is doing too much damage...

[tulip plume]

Yall think mobius stigmata set is a good substitute for Hotr’s signature?

I mean she can fully utilize the 5 stacks summons buff from the 3 piece since she has 4 summons plus the elf

[steady osprey]

u want atk as high as possible. max ur weapon, max ur T and B stig, lvlup ur dorm, roll stig affix for atk, get divine key synergy

[sage fable]

alr tysm!!

[half hatch]

what you're missing is the weapon, a valk's dps role always suffers a lot when you don't own the weapon. For valks even their support aspect is completly bricked without her weapon

i assume you got her from carnival supply ?

[sage fable]

yeah

shes coming back isnt she??

[half hatch]

yeah but i wouldnt recommend pulling her weapon when she's here again if you're meta focused, we mainly emphasise on pulling the newest valk + weapon if you can afford it ( 30k crystals at the patch start is a soldi amount). Also one small questions are you new since your sushang is level 76 ?

[sage fable]

sorry havent played this game in a while lmao i have no clue how this works

[steady osprey]

u can use other gauntlets. investment into her weapon at this point is a loss

[sage fable]

not new just havent played in a while (since around 2021) idrc about meta since i place more emphasis on getting valks i like + playstyles but thank you !!

[half hatch]

ah if you dont care about meta then go ahead just be aware that carnival pity won't carry over between patches so if you try to get her weapon from there make sure you have enough crystals

otherwise if you have any questions any time feel free to ask

[sage fable]

alr tysm! have a good day/night

[tulip plume]

Wait how do Yall post videos and pics. I can’t?!

[sage fable]

maybe captain role? i dont really know it just let me

[eager smelt]

probably captain role

[elfin parrot]

please review the rules in #rules-en to get the captain role

[tulip plume]

Oh lol now it works, thanks

[fathom osprey]

hey guys is there any way to replay chapter 32-34 (the open world ones?) i skipped them once when there was event but now i would like to play them for lore purposes, is there any way to replay it?? or will have to get new acc/watch it on youtube?

[quasi pier]

can't replay open world chapters

will have to watch it on youtube

[fathom osprey]

ohh thats a shame i guess ill watch it then

[brave carbon]

with this would the best options for ma be hle fdd fws for sa and lp vbm hofi for sprout?

[tulip plume]

Would you recommend Linnaeus or Handel for HoTr Elysian realm. I don’t wanna have to do it twice cuz of wrong stigmata

[eager smelt]

neither 🥀 shes ice

[tulip plume]

Omg wait no- embarrassing😭

[dusky mantle]

Hi need a ref for this abyss.
Fws jds fdd. Currently.773 rl

Feels like i should be getting 800

[eager smelt]

go to hieu le

[digital sky]

Is lv 2nd topscore for bleed vv?

[dusky mantle]

Omg i saw why now

My jds qte didnt hit

At thr end of p1 lmao

[sacred cape]

What’s the fastest time to qte ring songq for abyss sa end of transition

[weary breach]

i don't think it's possible for me to clear this stage, luckily i already got my weekly reward

[eager smelt]

dont need to use qua valk

u can collapse by dodging

but that 164 is

[crude cloak]

Or not Collapse in general xdd

Depends on your team(s)

And yeah, in most cases using a proper team >>>>> trying to benefit from the weather

[half hatch]

I assume your sparkle isn't geared judging by her level ?

[twilit sparrow]

is this a bug

[formal wigeon]

yes, from what I've seen here before it's for everyone and you can't do anything about it other than wait for Hoyo to fix

[crude cloak]

Surely they'll not be waiting until 8.6

Surely

[weary breach]

correct

[turbid wolf]

Are these buffs ok

[half hatch]

Yeah then just go with your best general team

[half hatch]

Depends on which signets you're choosing but I would generally always pick the last buff since it's just free breach

[turbid wolf]

Ok ty!!

[fervent musk]

I like the ER buffs this cycle

My clear times are around 40s faster than they were last cycle

[vernal terrace]

Last one isn't weapon exclusive breach

Which is great

[fervent musk]

[modern yew]

Because this one doesnt force u to take 30 seconds on f15

[fervent musk]

that floor was annoying af

Lantern is back

Does anyone have a sub 1:00 clear in the current ER?

I’m interested

[blissful pollen]

what does this mean? why cant i use my PC to salvage these extra stigmata??

[crude cloak]

Well, if you've changed your devices and/or are using a VPN you'll need to wait a week before you can do that

Or you can set up Device Lock in your profile

[analog cipher]

which weap is more of a priority to get, badum or hle?

[vernal terrace]

HLE's
Newest Valkyrie is the main priority

[analog cipher]

aight, also since the carnival gonna rotate two more times, does the pity carried over to the rotation or nah?

[vernal terrace]

Yes

[analog cipher]

thankss

[vernal terrace]

Pity doesn't carry over to the next carnival though (aka when they do carnival again when this one ends)

[blissful pollen]

oh okay, i just downloaded this on my pc from ipad

[shell quail]

this is so adorable

[cunning gull]

i so want that version of eden to be in dorm..

[crimson hull]

Should I level up herrscher of truth first or fiery wishing star? Cuz I got them both today but idrk what the meta is.. it’s been a minute since I’ve played

[cunning gull]

#👶beginner-help message heres a good start to get an idea of what to do
otherwise can i see your valk list? at least the ones with sig equipment

[crimson hull]

these r my best characters.. 😭 i dont rly have that many valks

fov, sparkle, hohe, and hos have sig equipment

[cunning gull]

fws then, since you def got her from carnival, just throw whatever pistol you alr have leveled

since you don't have anyone whos geared to use hotr and since you also got her from the free box, i would ignore building her
in elysian realm you can do shallow sequence with the trial no problem

[crimson hull]

okay, thanks for the help!

[obtuse lintel]

Dude what goes well against that quantum stage if i dont have quantum valks?

Barely did it, 1s left 😭

[modern yew]

Anything that not img tbh, u just need to evade to collapse them, had plenty of time left using bita dps

[spiral raven]

u just bring in ur highest dmg and evade yea

[open bone]

Or don’t evade at all, I was too lazy so I just pawsed them to death

Paws is strong

[spiral raven]

just depends on wat u have yea

[vernal terrace]

I did evade on tona but also did a funny and used HoRb support on PAWS dps for that stage

[tulip plume]

This stage is bullcrap anyway. If you don’t have any meta relevant characters for this you ca pack ur bags

[tulip plume]

Bruh I used vita cuz both Ss Vill- v AND Sss fallen rosemary weren’t cutting it

[naive shoal]

is there anything i can fix? (my current score is 776) (aop is DS)

yes the recording lags during elysia so

[cunning gull]

hmm maybe you can try starting the rotation with fdd (let her basic before the boss and have her fourth basic hit sa so you can use her weapon and ult, then paws then hle
also what agony tier is this? i would expect you to do a lot more score unless ur terribly low on atk or your gear isn't maxed or something

also i automatically assume you don't have fws since she can support this cycle, its ok if you don't

[naive shoal]

agony 3, i did try that before but it was roughly the same if not slower than if hle starts,, i have my paws weap not maxxed its on lvl 60 cuz i ran out of matz and yes rn my highest atk is 1300ish 😭 bad luck with rerolling

[cunning gull]

ahh i see..

are you struggling in agony rn tho?

[naive shoal]

ig its not that bad? last patch i was coping with paws fdd and vbm so it was way worse 💀 also heres top 3 build for comparison

[cunning gull]

hmm no at least you look fine
the only suggest i have which won't fix anything but could possibly save u a score is that when doing hle's basics, if you have enough to ult you can skip her fourth basic animation (but still make it hit, you would know by the bow animation), but yeah as i said this isn't a fix
you can also just try more if you didn't do much attempts, you may be able to get urself comfy to get a bit more score
unfortunately i can't try for you because im in nirv

[naive shoal]

hmm im kinda considering in investing on rerolling affix stats but idk how much that would help

also like it seems pretty time consuming to get the ideal stats and the resources for it is limited

[cunning gull]

oh you still have a lot of dkeys to get from stuff like RoB, exchange, foundry, etc isn't it? also your dorm level?
because these are good things to have, affixes do work but it won't make much of a difference when you'll low on everything else

and ideally i wanna feel comfy when going into rl then you can go all in on affixes

[dusky mantle]

Or do my strat before. Affix only when i need that power boost in RL

Otherwise, if I'm not going to T1-3 even with affix? Slacc time

[stiff wigeon]

Why is it so hard to maintain redlotus in sea? I have all the main team members and full build but then the moment i go into redlotus im guaranteed to drop rank no matter what i do and go back to agony , its impossible to even maintain my rank rn

[full trench]

yeah @weak drum is a leviathan and still in rl in sea

[vernal terrace]

Calling ches out is wild kek

[full trench]

on a serious note i cant really speak to what's required in sea but i would expect retain at least, that level of investment can promote in na/eu rl

[naive shoal]

sea is just full of sweats

[stiff wigeon]

I cant seem to do enough damage than those guys in videos even with same build everything are they using some emblems and shit or smth??? It dont make sense

[weak drum]

erm???

for any lurkers i choose to be in rl btw lmao

its literally super easy for me to just nirv and myriad if i actually bothered

dont get the wrong idea that rl is super hard

[full trench]

getting outdamaged by old whales like hieu le is normal

just have to adjust

[weak drum]

his acc is super developed compared to most new accs

[stiff wigeon]

But how are they doing it?

[naive shoal]

yeah def, my dorm is only lvl 23 too but it also kinda take awhile to farm dkeys lol

[full trench]

dkeys better affixes better dorm

[shell quail]

most of the nirvana players are no longer as tryhard as before, so they chose to stay in RL (exactly what ches said)

[weak drum]

adapting and changing the rot or just outdmg the ref itself

[shell quail]

there's also times they have s2 rank, higher attack from divine keys, or yk, gacha Astral op at SS and above

[weak drum]

stop exposing me

im technically f2p bc no full stellar keys + syns

[shell quail]

I have all keys

but no syn

[weak drum]

megawhel

im -10 from you

[half hatch]

dafuq which stellar key are you missing

[shell quail]

+154?

[weak drum]

waxer

[weak drum]

yeah

i was a poor dirty f2p back when wax came out

[half hatch]

ouch, missed out on the one with the highest value at release lol

[shell quail]

I'm f2p

[full trench]

ur technically bad bc ur rl

[shell quail]

I just skipped patches for Vita and HoFin

[weak drum]

tbf no hofi back then so it was better for me to get vita

[shell quail]

annoying tho

[weak drum]

erm????

[half hatch]

i mean she was in spending

[shell quail]

had to overpull on banner to get HoFin on spending event

;v

[weak drum]

didnt spend enuff for her

and had no funds too

[half hatch]

[shell quail]

I got s2 Vita, her weap, HoFin dkey

[weak drum]

i had barely enough to hard pity vita and that was what exactly happened

[shell quail]

and still not enough for HoFin on spending

[weak drum]

kek

[shell quail]

had to do like 20 more pulls on Vita banner

[weak drum]

im gonna get badum weap n skin soon

[vernal terrace]

[dusky mantle]

Sigh

Fws skin or ely weapon

[weak drum]

my acc is too developed now, cant follow rl refs anymore

[dusky mantle]

Ofc im going for outfit first

[weak drum]

love you paul and bmo

best s0 refs frfr

[weak drum]

why even ask

[dusky mantle]

Same tried following hieu ref, i overdamaged cant do jds qte at the end. Had to intentioanlly lower mah dps

[weak drum]

oh wow my bracket actually knows how to play

806 with s teri, impressive for rl

[dusky mantle]

Woah

[weak drum]

i gave up following rl refs after watching hieu and immediately knowing that i’ll overkill no matter what lmao

[weak drum]

no ranks too

[pallid flare]

heyho, short question, i want to optimize my event score in this hack'n slay event:

1. which char is currently the best for the phases?
2. could it be that the sub bosses are also contributing to the phases timer?
3. if yes: which buffs should i prioritize to max out damage?

[spare furnace]

@eager smelt

[weary breach]

is there an order to this or does it not matter?

[rigid cedar]

order for pri-arming?

not sure what your question is

[weary breach]

does pri-arming make synergy more costly? does synergizing make pri-arming more costly?

which is more impactful?

[weak drum]

nope

they're different things

also you need weapon dupes to actually synergize them

you cant just synergize the weapon without the weapon dupes

[weary breach]

[weak drum]

here ya go

no mats needed, just weap dupes

[weary breach]

[iron mesa]

what's the point of the spending event if they don't run anything I actually want.

[eager smelt]

@pallid flare

click for more

[spark lance]

So, will Rebirth get a banner soon or what?

I do know there's an outfit banner of hers right after Kiana's

[crude cloak]

No, she's too old

She'll be added to Reserve Works in a couple of patches and that's it

[pallid flare]

you are awesome thanks so much ❤️

[spark lance]

Gotta wait for being able to use her with the new weapon then.

At least Bronya is cool

[rigid cedar]

I mean you gotta pick something

just make sure it's something rare

#👶beginner-help message

this also has an advantage list for each option

[iron mesa]

okayy

[iron mesa]

I mean the gachas tho, they aren't running anything I want.

[rigid cedar]

the spending event tries to make you pull, but i wouldn't say there is something in there that 100% requires to go against your own plans

assuming you just want to save for next patch

[iron mesa]

(I'm 20k/30k to the skin reee)

but I don't want any of the valks/gear that will be up before the end.

[rigid cedar]

if you're a casual, then that's fine

[iron mesa]

I'm low-key saving my valk guarantee (25) for the next release

[rigid cedar]

we don't know anything for next patch yet however, so we aren't sure if HLE or HoRb will be good for what comes next

[iron mesa]

I just don't like HLE

[rigid cedar]

and you know how part 2 teambuilding works already?

astral ring and everything

[iron mesa]

I mean, I know the gist of it. Not that I care too much.

[rigid cedar]

So not really a meta player

in that case feel free to skip her

[iron mesa]

not since p2

[rigid cedar]

oh, how so?

[iron mesa]

I was a meta player before p2, now I'm not

[rigid cedar]

i understood that but what made you switch gears

[iron mesa]

p2

[rigid cedar]

anything specific?

or just because everything part 2

[iron mesa]

Actually, it was just slightly before p2 when they stopped making A Ranks, but that's not the point. I was hoping p2 would maybe change my mind, it didn't.

I really don't like how the game seems like it's on auto-pilot after p2

[rigid cedar]

I get what you mean, especially with LoA valks

and some of the longer animations

[iron mesa]

I really enjoyed pushing MA and Abyss with my scuffed budget teams. Now it doesn't really feel like that would be fun.

Since you can't mix and match nearly as much with p2

[rigid cedar]

MA still has some bosses where this is still possible

it's not like p1 is fully dead there

[iron mesa]

Right, but I can't t100 unless I play meta

[rigid cedar]

unfortunately yeah

[iron mesa]

That was the only fun thing.

[rigid cedar]

it is what it is, i mean I probably couldn't bring HoR into a boss when a stronger ice dps exists years after her

except for 0s MA on HoV

powercreep is just an unavoidable thing

[iron mesa]

well yea

I mean, it's not like you can't use the older DPS valks, almost all the old DPS valks can still get the max reward tiers in MA

[rigid cedar]

yeah, but t100 definitely impossible

[iron mesa]

So they are still useful, but the only person I'm entertaining is myself, and I don't have quite as much free time to tinker.

[rigid cedar]

especially when those valks are fully farmable nowadays

[iron mesa]

Almost fully farmable

[rigid cedar]

yeah

[iron mesa]

There are still so many valks that I don't have weapons for

Like Sirin

[rigid cedar]

TA gear also still in the void

and Kira

[iron mesa]

I do at least have that, but no CE/Kira 4/4

I'm 1/4 or 2/4 on both, can't even pull for them

[vagrant fractal]

I know how to fix it boys: 1 new patch = 1 new enemy type = 1 new valk type that counters it

[iron mesa]

kira?!

come home

I can get the last p1 valks I'm missing though bp but I really don't want to put any more money into this game

I truely am willing to wait for them to be on Standard/farmable XD

Anyways, that's enough complaining (almost, why won't they rerun HFi's DKey during a spending event REEEE)

[open bone]

They did

[iron mesa]

this one

[open bone]

Just last patch

And the spending event before that

And the spending event before that

[iron mesa]

yeah but I can't get the outfit for songque that way

[open bone]

You could pull for uhh horb dkey

[iron mesa]

I did

[open bone]

How many more pulls do you need for skin?

[iron mesa]

10k XD

The only thing I could come up with was pulling on the outfit banners

[open bone]

Could build more pity on Horb dkey banner ig. That way unless you get lucky Waxing will be cheaper

And getting a sync 2 dkey is still something

Or yeah outfit banners if you like them

I pulled for Badum’s banner

[iron mesa]

That way unless you get lucky Waxing will be cheaper?

[open bone]

No regrets

[iron mesa]

what's waxing?

[open bone]

Hofi’s dkey

[iron mesa]

ah

well, I already hate how many stigs I get on dkey banners

I don't even know what to do with the dupes

[rigid cedar]

salvage for prisms

[iron mesa]

but I barely need any prisims

[rigid cedar]

exactly

[iron mesa]

I already have enough to max every p2 stig I have

including the dupes

okay that might be a bit of an exaggeration, I have a LOT of dupes considering how little I play

[open bone]

If you backpull Valkyries constantly you will always be low on prisms

[rigid cedar]

I'm in the same position, because I've been actively playing since p2 started

[open bone]

(Hi it’s me, I’m low on prisms)

[rigid cedar]

I'm somewhere between 60-70 prisms

[iron mesa]

but I don't care about the new cast

[rigid cedar]

pretty sure that's enough for every valk I'm missing

[iron mesa]

I would have pulled the funny sushang and helia if they didn't kill the funny Kiana ult build

[open bone]

See that’s nice. I’m gonna have to leave my thelema stigs unlevelled tho because otherwise I won’t be able to max next patch’s stigs on release

And god forbid I have to craft pieces of Solon

[iron mesa]

It honestly didn't seem like it was that big of a deal cause the build was so cope anyways

but hoyo hates fun now

[open bone]

What build?

[rigid cedar]

(fyi: Sena, Lantern, Eepy Teri, Mini Dudu, uhh i think thats it)

[open bone]

Only funny Kiana ult build I’m thinking of is knight moonbeam GoI and I thought that never actually worked ingame

Outside of events

[iron mesa]

It was KMB

[rigid cedar]

it used to work in beta

[open bone]

Oh damn and they took it from us? Robbed wtf

[rigid cedar]

so they made it an option on purpose in last combat event

[iron mesa]

They capped how much SP you could expend as extra

which killed it

[open bone]

Awful. Now I’m mad too

[rigid cedar]

tbf it would've nuked the entire ring's meta

[iron mesa]

That's not MY PROBLEM

They should have left it in XD

[formal wigeon]

I mean, it was shit

[rigid cedar]

you want another seven thunder?

[iron mesa]

It was really bad

[formal wigeon]

Funny but still bad

[iron mesa]

I would have played the hell out of it

[open bone]

Yes

[rigid cedar]

[formal wigeon]

7t was the best thing to happen in the game

[rigid cedar]

if you own it

[formal wigeon]

Still the best thing they did, with a team that had actual skill expression

And rot variations (real ones)

[iron mesa]

I miss HF

[rigid cedar]

that i lack first-hand experience